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9-29-26 Hour 2 - How involved is Sean Payton?/Around the NFL/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: I got a quote from Dan Orlovsky that I want
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  Speaker 2: to play for you guys and see what you think
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  Speaker 2: in regards to the Broncos and Davis Webb and their offense.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll get there in just a second. But first,
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  Speaker 2: I want you guys to guess who this is. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to read you some quotes from this philosopher, and
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  Speaker 2: you tell me who this is. So Natalie, if you
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  Speaker 2: could give me just some philosophical music, it would be
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  Speaker 2: much appreciated. Who is this person that has said all
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  Speaker 2: of these things? I just think we were prepared. You know,
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  Speaker 2: one thing my trainer told me, he said, what did
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  Speaker 2: he say? He just said, be prepared. We some dogs.
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  Speaker 2: We ain't no puppies. St. Thomas Aquinas.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm on the right track. Should I say
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  Speaker 3: it when I think it?
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  Speaker 2: Losing, I believe. Losing is too easy. And I hate
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  Speaker 2: easy stuff. Oh, that's Descartes. I went to the same
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  Speaker 2: school as Bo Jackson. I wish he came to my class.
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  Speaker 2: Southern Florida ain't even Florida. It's like New York, Chicago,
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  Speaker 2: in Chicago, the beaches. Who is this? Is that Jameis?
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  Speaker 2: It's Jameis Winston. Jameis Winston then added a new one
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  Speaker 2: to the repertoire because I didn't want to give too
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  Speaker 2: many away, which is I said to him, you strong?
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  Speaker 2: We strong then. What? And E to W. He asked
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  Speaker 2: his teammates, are you strong? Strong, but he said it
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  Speaker 2: with a K. You strong?
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  Speaker 3: He pronounced it with a K?
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  Speaker 2: Then we strong then, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, while he was holding his sword.
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  Speaker 2: Nelly, what's the new one to the Jameis Arsenal here?
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  Speaker 4: You've had a week of prep.
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  Speaker 2: How confident are you in carrying this team forward?
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  Speaker 5: One thing that I do is forgetting those that is
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  Speaker 5: behind and reaching forward to what's ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're having beautiful weather today.
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  Speaker 4: How much do you feel that's going to impact the
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  Speaker 4: game out here?
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  Speaker 5: Man, I'm so grateful that we get to focus.
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  Speaker 2: On winning one play at a time. The circumstances, conditions,
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  Speaker 2: and facts, they don't matter.
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  Speaker 5: It's us doing, being doers, not speakers.
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  Speaker 2: We're looking forward to seeing you doing it today, and
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  Speaker 2: good luck. Thank you. Thank you. The Giants heard that
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  Speaker 2: and said, J.J. McCarthy for a fifth rounder, please.
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  Speaker 3: When it's all said and done, seriously, when it's all
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  Speaker 3: said and done, I used to think that maybe Jameis
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  Speaker 3: did this on purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Jameis, just go do television, man.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to be great. He's going to be great
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  Speaker 3: on it. I would love a book of Winstonisms at
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  Speaker 3: the end.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people forget when you go out and
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  Speaker 2: see practice, you can knick-knack this, that, patty-whack, give a
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  Speaker 2: dog a bone. Deshaun Watson's going to turn it on.
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  Speaker 2: That was quoted in the movie Odysseus.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 2: The Giants saw that, heard that, and go, J.J. McCarthy,
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  Speaker 2: right now. Please.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy because what if Harbaugh got McCarthy
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  Speaker 3: to play real football? I mean, what if.
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  Speaker 2: He's not.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you guys want to hear, and I mean this sincerely.
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  Speaker 2: This is an honest take that I have. If you
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  Speaker 2: look at Michigan players that have entered the NFL with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of hype surrounding them, a lot of them
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  Speaker 2: don't play football very well at the NFL level, which
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  Speaker 2: begs the question, just asking out loud, How much of
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  Speaker 2: the Connor Stallion stuff was a big factor for them?
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  Speaker 2: That they knew plays were coming. That they had intel
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  Speaker 2: by cheating that helped them win a championship. Sure. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean that sincerely. Quick story.
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  Speaker 6: And this is the part of football where is it
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  Speaker 6: cheating or is it just understanding your opponent, right?
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  Speaker 2: Watching film, scouring through film. So I'm doing that.
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  Speaker 6: Documentary on the 1977 Orange Crush team. And I'm sitting
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  Speaker 6: down with Louie Wright, who should be in the Hall
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  Speaker 6: of Fame. And I said, man, you guys lost to
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  Speaker 6: the Raiders every year, and you finally found a way
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  Speaker 6: to beat the Raiders. It's amazing how it came together.
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  Speaker 6: And he's talking about the stuff he goes through every day.
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  Speaker 6: And he says, you know, when we played the Raiders,
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  Speaker 6: their right guard would tell me if it's a run
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  Speaker 6: or a pass. And then he went on to explain
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  Speaker 6: that when the right guard set up in a certain
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  Speaker 6: way with his feet, he knew it was a run.
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  Speaker 2: And when he moved his feet, he knew it was
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  Speaker 2: a pass.
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  Speaker 6: And so now, that little piece of intel gave away
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  Speaker 6: their entire play sheet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Is that cheating? Or is that being a smart football player?
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  Speaker 2: What is that? I think that's just a tell. It's
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  Speaker 2: a tell. It's a pitcher who tips his pitches. That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: When you have an assistant, or I'm sorry, not an
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  Speaker 2: assistant coach, a staff member that goes and stands on
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  Speaker 2: the sidelines with a camera and records somebody calling plays
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  Speaker 2: a little bit different. A little bit different. That's cheating.
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  Speaker 6: And you can understand why, perhaps, Sean Payton, who is misinformed,
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  Speaker 6: thought that there was a Seattle scout in the fan
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  Speaker 6: section at Dove Valley recording training camp plays.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, two more here. I love alphabet soup, and
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  Speaker 2: I eat up the W's. Ha, ha, ha. We got
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  Speaker 2: the best running back in the whole damn league, and
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  Speaker 2: we got a quarterback who's going to toss that.
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  Speaker 5: Thing.
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  Speaker 3: What team was that, though?
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  Speaker 2: I think that's with the Browns. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 7: I got to find it. Do you remember when he
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  Speaker 7: was on the Bucs? He went on some podcast, and
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  Speaker 7: he was talking about what makes Mike Evans such a
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  Speaker 7: great receiver, and he said it's because he's from Galveston,
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  Speaker 7: and he grew up near water. And he had this
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  Speaker 7: whole theory about if you're born near water, you're a
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  Speaker 7: different kind of person because of the ocean.
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  Speaker 2: And I gotta see if I can find that clip.
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  Speaker 2: Here's one of my favorites. This is just a slip-up.
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  Speaker 2: He said, we got one of the best condoms, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: tandems in the league. All right, anyway. Can we hear
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  Speaker 2: Dan Orlovsky?
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 2: He said this on NFL Live yesterday before Monday Night Football.
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  Speaker 2: Curious what you think about this. Talking about the two-point
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  Speaker 2: conversion to Jalen Waddell, that amazing throw from Bo Nix, right?
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  Speaker 2: And catch by Jalen Waddell. Here's what he said on
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  Speaker 2: the two-point plays and the goal line plays.
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  Speaker 8: The goal line and two-point stuff? Those plays are Sean
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  Speaker 8: Payton plays.
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  Speaker 6: For years.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen those plays enough on Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 8: Like, when you look at the touchdown pass and the
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  Speaker 8: two-point conversions, the out and up, all that, like, those
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  Speaker 8: are the Sean Payton plays. So, Davis Webb, if he's
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  Speaker 8: still calling in the second half, obviously got him into rhythm.
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  Speaker 8: But down there, when it was money downs, when it
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  Speaker 8: came down to second half, we're down there, we have
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  Speaker 8: to go score, and we're going for two, those plays
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  Speaker 8: were vintage, scheme-wise, vintage Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 2: When I heard that, And you see the results of
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  Speaker 2: the first three games that, again, if I asked you
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  Speaker 2: this question, if you did not know, I hit you
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  Speaker 2: with that men in black neuralyzer. You had no idea
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  Speaker 2: that Davis Webb was given play calling duties. Would you
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  Speaker 2: think any differently?
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: How involved do you think Sean Payton is right now?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Brett, it's still his playbook. The plays are still
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton plays. The formations are still Sean Payton formations,
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  Speaker 3: even if Davis Webb is calling them. So what you're
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  Speaker 3: inferring is that perhaps Payton is in the year of
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  Speaker 3: Webb and then Webb is in the year of Knicks.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's changing plays. I don't think he's
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  Speaker 2: sitting there on the sideline saying, no, let's go to
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  Speaker 2: that one.
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  Speaker 6: I think the playbook's already formed. It's his playbook, and
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  Speaker 6: he's just sort of listening. I really don't think he's
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  Speaker 6: taking part in the calling of the plays.
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to hand somebody play-calling duties, don't you
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  Speaker 2: want that guy to have autonomy? For example, for example,
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  Speaker 2: if let's say Ben Johnson wasn't a head coach and
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  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson was still an offensive coordinator and for some
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  Speaker 2: reason he was never allowed to be a head coach,
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  Speaker 2: some new league rule, and the Broncos go, hey, you
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  Speaker 2: want to be our offensive coordinator here? Sean doesn't really
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  Speaker 2: want to do it. Wouldn't you say, hey, Ben, Go. Well,
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  Speaker 2: of course you will. You know? Yeah, but you're being
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  Speaker 2: a little– I mean, you're given autonomy.
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  Speaker 6: You put the show together every morning the way you
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  Speaker 6: want to, but there's a certain set of rules and regulations,
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  Speaker 6: and you've got to be out at these times. And
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  Speaker 6: that's all this is. Here's the way we want to
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  Speaker 6: run the offense. Here's what our plan is, our philosophy.
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  Speaker 6: Now go set it up and run it. And I
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  Speaker 6: think that's what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't believe– I don't believe that Sean Payton
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  Speaker 3: is– is nudging Webb one way or another. Now, we'll
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  Speaker 3: never know unless we're on the inside and we're on
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  Speaker 3: the headsets and truly get an idea as to how
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  Speaker 3: it works on game day. But, I mean, just because
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't look different doesn't mean it's nothing that's surreptitious.
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  Speaker 3: It's Peyton's playbook. These are his plays. This is what
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  Speaker 3: he's always done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no halfway. There's no like, okay, you call
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  Speaker 2: the first two, then let me have this one. It's
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  Speaker 2: not so much calling plays. And look, I'm not even
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  Speaker 2: saying I believe this. I'm just asking the question out loud.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that they're trading calling plays, but if
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  Speaker 2: you're given, if you're a chef and you're asked to
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  Speaker 2: make a meal, but somebody gives you literally every single
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  Speaker 2: grocery item. You're making the meal, but you're doing what they're.
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  Speaker 3: Asking you to do. You're also following a recipe. You
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  Speaker 3: may add a dash of paprika. You may add an
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  Speaker 3: extra scoop of jalapenos or whatever, but you're still using
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  Speaker 3: the Sean Payton recipe.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Payton's saying, you're making a burger. Now, you can
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  Speaker 2: make the burger kind of how you want to, but
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  Speaker 2: you're going to use, he's like, well, what if I
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  Speaker 2: want to make a steak? No, you're making a burger today.
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  Speaker 3: And, Brett, if there was, I mean, in between the
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  Speaker 3: touchdown and going for the two-point conversion, if there was a, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I think this might work, or these couple plays might.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure that happens.
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  Speaker 2: And that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, shocker.
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  Speaker 6: The play calls look the same because the playbook still
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  Speaker 6: is a Sean Payton playbook.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's the way. Hey, by the way, speaking of. What
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  Speaker 2: was the coolest pass of that game? The coolest passing catch.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember? I mean, two-point inversion is pretty sick.
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  Speaker 2: It's a waddle. Remember that?
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  Speaker 3: Right by the helmet.
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  Speaker 6: The one thing that I couldn't get over, there was
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  Speaker 6: no space there. I mean, two yards to the end zone.
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  Speaker 6: He runs an out and up within a window of
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  Speaker 6: two yards. Do you know how hard that is? Do
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  Speaker 6: you know how quick twitch you have to be to
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  Speaker 6: pull that off?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: A two-yard out that turns into a four-yard out and up.
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  Speaker 3: The DB was slightly late getting back there. I think
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  Speaker 3: when he finally recognized Waddle sitting at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the end zone, he turns and he runs toward Waddle, right?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how that ball didn't skim his helmet.
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  Speaker 3: Because I think, and honestly, if you watch that catch again,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying waddle was startled by the ball, but
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  Speaker 3: I think that he must've been, it must've been blacked
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  Speaker 3: out somehow because once he got past the helmet, it
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  Speaker 3: hit him pretty quick. And he, he did kind of
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  Speaker 3: one of these, you know, one of these kinds of things.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was shocked. It didn't get tipped.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe, maybe he shocked that it got there, but he,
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  Speaker 3: you know, to be able to react on a ball
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  Speaker 3: that maybe you lost sight of, and then it hits
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  Speaker 3: you right in the chest. That's what it looked like
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 2: Funniest thing about that. And I know it's been, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Beaten to death, but it's true. If that guy had
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  Speaker 2: a Guardian cap on, that ball's bouncing off his helmet.
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  Speaker 3: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: That's how close it was. If he had one of
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  Speaker 2: those stupid Guardian caps, that does not end up in
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  Speaker 2: the chest of Jalen Waddell. You know, everybody's talking about
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  Speaker 2: the pass, and I get it. The pass was just perfect.
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  Speaker 2: But Waddell, at that point, to have the know-how and
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  Speaker 2: the feel to where to plant his toes. Yeah, that too.
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  Speaker 2: That's just silly.
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  Speaker 3: So good. So good.
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  Speaker 2: 303-504-0925. We got Adam Schefter joining us at 920 this morning.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll take a look around the weekend that was
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL next.
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  Speaker 5: Water has no soul. It doesn't discriminate against anybody. You
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: get in that water, it's going to take you wherever
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  Speaker 5: it goes. So I feel like people that are around water,
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  Speaker 5: they are a very strong wheel. They're one with water.
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  Speaker 2: Do it every Tuesday at 820. It is a look
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  Speaker 2: around the NFL. Start with the early games. Chargers in Bills.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: So the Chargers gave the Bills a run for their money.
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  Speaker 2: The Bills needed 14 points in the fourth quarter to
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  Speaker 2: win 24-16. But this pushes the Chargers to an 0-3
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  Speaker 2: start with no reprieve in sight on the schedule because
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  Speaker 2: it gets daunting in a hurry. Jim Harbaugh is, I
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: don't know if you guys saw it, finally came out
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  Speaker 2: yesterday in talking about Justin Herbert, and it's the first
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  Speaker 2: real criticism we've heard of Justin Herbert. He said, be
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  Speaker 2: better as far as decision-making. That's what he needs from him.
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  Speaker 2: What do you guys think?
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  Speaker 3: I told you from the get-go, dude. I saw game one.
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  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert's brain is not there. It's not there.
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  Speaker 2: Where is it, Moj?
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  Speaker 3: I think I know where it is. I just don't
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  Speaker 3: want to say.
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  Speaker 2: Planted in some Magoombos. Here's the full quote.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't think that this is real, I'm telling
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  Speaker 3: you right now, man, he got paid and he got
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: the supermodel. He got paid and he got the supermodel
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  Speaker 3: slash singer girl. I think there's something to that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: He just looks completely off.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the full quote on Justin Herbert's decision-making.
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  Speaker 3: Be better.
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  Speaker 2: That drives Justin. That drives me. That drives his position coach.
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  Speaker 2: That drives Mike McDaniel, the coordinator. It drives us all,
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  Speaker 2: is what he said. So, Chargers 0-3 to start the year.
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  Speaker 2: The Bills are 3-0. I don't know what to do here.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Cleveland plays their first home game. We're all wondering if
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson's going to get booed. Deshaun Watson doesn't play
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: too bad. And the Browns win 21-18 over a Panthers
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  Speaker 2: team that had a decent start to the year. So...
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  Speaker 2: Browns 2-1. Is that real life?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what to do with that information. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: in that division is 2-1, Vic.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody. Yeah, you can't do that to my brain this
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  Speaker 2: early in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: You can't.
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  Speaker 2: So that's torture. That's torturous stuff. Panthers 1-2, Browns 2-1.
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  Speaker 2: Detroit in the Jets. Detroit had a 14-point lead late
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  Speaker 2: in that game. They got dwindled down to the Jets
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  Speaker 2: having an opportunity to tie it at the very end.
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  Speaker 3: Let me see.
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  Speaker 6: Your Lions defense is so bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's so bad.
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  Speaker 2: They're horrible.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they're making the playoffs. You can't with
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  Speaker 2: that defense. Not that secondary anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Vicky, you've got to get on this text thread. It's brilliant.
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  Speaker 3: It got so bad that Brett's brother Nolan goes, listen,
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  Speaker 3: he goes, I think we should take this to a
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  Speaker 3: different text thread because I think Mosher's working right now.
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  Speaker 6: Mosher's the only guy I know who invades family text threads.
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  Speaker 3: No, they included me on the text thread.
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  Speaker 6: You became a part of my family text thread for
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  Speaker 6: no reason.
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  Speaker 2: And I love it.
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  Speaker 3: This is so funny.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Here's the bad news. The bad news is this. Geno
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  Speaker 2: Smith was awful the first two weeks of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, after the game, said he was really proud
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: of the way his secondary played. Geno Smith was 31
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: of 37 for 320 yards and three touchdowns. That's a disaster. Moshe,
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  Speaker 2: of the Canes, who is the biggest Lions fan?
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  Speaker 3: It's Troy. It's dad, yeah. I mean, Brett and Nolan
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  Speaker 3: might be as big of fans, but they're not more
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  Speaker 3: than Troy is.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Yeah.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Because he was texting on the thread how much he's
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: going to throw up. The line's making him sick.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Troy lives it. He lives it.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: He absolutely lives it, yes.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much. You want to hear something crazy.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Hysterical, man.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Through three weeks of the season, Jameer Gibbs has 307
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: rushing yards. He has 156 receiving yards and six touchdowns.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: The first three games. They're going to bury him. They're
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: going to run him into the ground.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: They are.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: He will be dead by the end of the season.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Also, Vic, the Lions, and I'm not kidding, they're going
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: to have to score 30 every week.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Well, they've scored 31 points in each game this year.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: That's right. They're going to have to score that every
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: week in order to win because their defense, their secondary, Vic.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: If I was their GM, I'd just be scouring every
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: practice squad in the league, picking up guys because they suck.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Well, they're 2-1. The Jets are 1-2.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Talk about the secondary.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Colts and Texans. So the Texans now drop to 0-3
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: on the year. They lose to Indianapolis 19-17. And look,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think the Colts are any good. That was
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: their first win of the year as they started 1-2.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you do if you're the Texans
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: because you have this amazing defense, but CJ Stroud is
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: so bad that it's not making a difference. They have
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the opposite problem. We were just talking about Detroit. Good offense,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: defense you can't trust. The Texans' defense is arguably the
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: best in the league, but they have an offense that
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: can't do anything.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Their offense is really, really bad, which is crazy because
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Stroud burst on the scene and he's gotten progressively worse
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: every year.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: They were so hopeful, too, when they made that playoff
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: push last year.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: Like something to. To bank on, and here we go.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Here's a season of redemption, and they start 0-3. There
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: is absolutely no way you ever turn to Davis Mills,
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: is there?
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: Ever?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Next too long. Agreed. Colts 1-2, Texans 0-3. Chiefs and Dolphins.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: This was a better game than anybody was expecting. Now
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs win by 14, 24-10. But the Dolphins were
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: right there late in the game. Here's what drives me nuts.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: You guys saw the sack, or sorry, the hit in
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: the end zone on Mahomes. It should have been third down, incompletion,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Chiefs punting from their own end zone.
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: But the Dolphins got hit with that body weight on
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the quarterback thing.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. What are you supposed to do as a defender?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: What choice do you have?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know which way you fall.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: I don't know which way you're supposed to fall, how
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: you're supposed to fall. So that's a new training ground
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: in the NFL, how to fall when tackling.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: So I believe that would have given the Dolphins the
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: ball back with a chance to tie the game, right?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: And instead, they have to suffer, you know, well, they
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: didn't do themselves any favors. It's not like the Dolphins
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: are any good, but still would have given them an opportunity.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: By the way. When you're an 0-3 football team and
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you look like you're the worst in the league and
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: you might not win a game all year, it's hard
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to drum up media hype. Jeff Halfley showed up at
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: his presser yesterday and said this.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Got everybody that's coming?
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: It's heat media day. Say that again? It's heat media day.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: I got you. Same time.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: There's like four people at his press conference. He's like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: is this everybody?
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Um... Um.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Um.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: Jeff.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: So, Dolphins 0-3, Chiefs 3-0. The Dolphins, or I'm sorry,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the Giants, without Jackson Dart, they start Jameis Winston again.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Jameis Winston was really bad, but guess who's worse? The
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. And the Giants win that game 12-7. Interesting
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: thing in that game. Did you guys see when Cam
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Ward's controller ran out of batteries mid-play? When he took
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the snap, goes back in the pocket, and he just
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: goes like this, and then whips the ball. Do you
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: guys know what I'm talking about here?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: No, I did not see it was a whistle.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: No, no, he did this at Miami too, but Nelly,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I got it. I'll dig up the video for you.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: What was the reasoning behind it? I don't know. It's weird.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: And if you're a coach... It's got to drive you nuts.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So Nelly, I just sent you a DM. Pull up
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: on the screen behind me. Literally, he drops back in
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the pocket. There's no pressure around him. And he just
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: drops his arms down almost as if the play was
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: blown dead. But he was just chilling. Just chilling. So
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: it's not like that moment of reflection is like, why
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: am I here? What am I doing?
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Mid-play? So mid-play.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Hut, hut, hut! And he's like, what am I doing here? Like,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: why am I doing this?
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: It's us doing, being doers. What is that?
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: That's unreal.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: It looks.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: He completed the pass! No, it was like a five-yard pass, but...
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: If you saw your quarterback do this and your team
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: is terrible, wouldn't that drive you nuts? Oh, that's funny.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's a great fake.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: That looks really awkward. I don't think I've ever seen
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: that before ever.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I love it. I think he's like, ah, screw it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to take my time. Oh, we stink.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: All right. Anyway, Giants are now 2-1, Titans 0-3. I've
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: said this, and I'm going to maintain this despite the win.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: The Steelers are pointless, but they did just beat Cincinnati.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: They won 30-27. So now are they not as pointless
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: as they thought, or what?
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Well, I watched Sunday NFL Countdown, and they talked about
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: that Steelers team. And Aaron Rodgers threw for almost 300
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: yards and three touchdowns in that game. He said, Rex Ryan,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: you know, despite what you think about Rex Ryan, I
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: don't know what you think about him, but he's a
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: pretty damn good football mind. And he said, look, here's
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: what needs to happen. Rodgers, the head coach... And then... Jeff? No,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: DK Metcalf. They need to all sit down before... He goes,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: the playbook is way too big. He has way too
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: much stuff going on here. He goes, sit down and say,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: all right, let's get these plays out. Circle, you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: write down in red the ones you like. Write down
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: in black the ones you hate. And some you're okay with,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: write down in blue. He said, although everybody was a
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: black one, throw it out of the playbook. Start slimming
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: this playbook down and let Rodgers play football because Metcalf
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: has not been great either. And they end up scoring
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: 30 points and winning the game.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: My greatest viewing pleasure on Sundays with the Steelers is
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: now the reaction Aaron Rodgers gives if a receiver drops
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: the ball and you can read his lips.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And he'll say, I can't catch it. Or he'll just
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: completely rip a receiver. I think it was Michael Pittman
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: this last week. That mother bleeper can't bleep and catch.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: No, he says, hang on a second. Oh, my God.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Aaron? All right, well, Steelers are 2-1. Bengals are 2-1
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: on the year.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: He said that guy blank blanker sucks blank. Blankin' sucks blank.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Yep. Commanders and Seahawks. This is a weird game. Oh, goodness.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold is welcomed back to the lineup after Drew
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Locke keeps the team afloat 2-0 in his absence. He
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: comes back, he throws the ball 45 times. He puts
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: up 380 yards and four touchdowns. But the Commanders, with
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: their backup quarterback, because Jaden Daniels dislocated his elbow last week,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota puts up 33 and they beat the Seahawks 33-31.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't understand the imbalance in offense. I mean, very
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: rarely does Seattle's known for its balance, right?
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: That's a balanced ball team. They ran the ball 18 times. Hell,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: Jadarian Price, their number one pick, only ran it five
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: times in that game.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: And they throw it 46 times. I think he got
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: punished because he fumbled. And they probably didn't put him
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: back in. 46 to 18? That's a recipe that doesn't
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: work too often.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Not very often. We've seen it. But Darnold also threw
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: a couple of picks.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Mariota's played a clean game. Not a ton of yards,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: but he played a very clean game.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: You guys want a stat that's going to blow your mind?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Blow it. Through three weeks of the NFL season, Jackson
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba has 27 catches for 405 yards and
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: six touchdowns.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: He's so good. Jackson Smith and Jigba.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: That's crazy. He's so good. So Seahawks 2-1, Commanders 1-2.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with the Patriots. I
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with Drake May. The Jags
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: beat the Patriots 35-6. It was a complete butt-whippin'. And
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: one thing we do know, the Jags are really good.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: So you reflect on a couple weeks ago, the Broncos win,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that's a big one. But Drake May, whose big thing
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: last year was, he completed everything. He pushed the ball downfield.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He had 30-some touchdowns to like six, seven picks last year.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: It was 31-8.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: 31-8. He has six interceptions already to only one touchdown.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: They can't protect him. He just looks like he's out
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: of sorts.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Vic, have you ever seen a very good player all
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: of a sudden lose his confidence and it feels like
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: they just kind of lost everything? That's what it looks
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: like to me. This guy is playing with zero confidence.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: He's hesitant on his throws. He's throwing it into double coverage.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: He's just trying to force things.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I don't mind it at all. I'm just wondering whether
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: it's arrogance or whether it's fear that's driving him right now,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: but they stink.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Patriots are 1-2. The Jags are 2-1. When the ball.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: Got knocked out of Drake May's hands.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Niners and Cardinals. Cardinals gave them a game. They put
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: up a tough fourth quarter. The Niners withstood it. They
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: win 36-30. Brock Purdy with four touchdowns and 300 yards
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: in that game. We know how good the Niners are.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: We know what the test is going to be this
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: weekend when the Broncos travel to San Francisco to play
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: in that game.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Mike Evans is a maybe, though. He's a questionable. He's
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: got something going on.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it's same old San Francisco losing guys to injury again,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: but they continue to win.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: By the way, Nick Bosa's out again. Do you see that?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, that guy's hurt.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: That dude's hurt every year.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: He's like a tissue paper guy.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Tough thing here. Brock Purdy's balling, bro. Yeah. Have you
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: seen his numbers?
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize he could run that well. Yeah, he's
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: an athlete. Yeah, Brock Purdy has nine touchdowns and one
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: pick so far this year, three games. Bigger question to
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: me is, they aren't going to matter because they play
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: in too tough a division, but would the Cardinals be
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: kind of a good football team if they didn't play
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: in the NFC West?
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was about to tell you something, that the
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Cardinals are on the Broncos schedule.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Don't automatically assume that game, Moj.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: He's right.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: They look pretty good.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Well, they got blasted by Seattle and Drew Locke.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: 31-7, and then.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, they gave the Niners a hell of a game,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. I think they're good enough to actually... Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: but that's a home game for them. I think they're
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: good enough to scare people, but they're not good enough
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: to win anything.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: October 25th is a home game for them. Just beware.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: No big deal.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: So Niners 3-0, Cardinals 1-2. Vikings and Bucs. I thought
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: that this would be the game that the Bucs get
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: right and the Vikings come down to earth. They started
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Kyla Murray for the first time since getting knocked out
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: in that first week. Vikings won again, 23-16. I mean,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: their defense is really, really good. And they're able to
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: do enough on offense to withstand it over the last
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: three weeks. But the Bucs have a bigger problem now.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: They're 0-3. They're going to lose Baker Mayfield for some
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: time here. He dislocated that thumb and that nasty injury
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: on his throwing hand. They said he's going to be out.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Three weeks, I think. And now they're going to start
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: the kid who started at Kansas last year and Jalen Daniels.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know anything about Jalen Daniels, really. I didn't
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: pay attention to Kansas football.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Wait, is it Jalen Daniels or am I doing the
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels thing? No, it's Jalen.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: It's J-A-L-E-N, Jalen Daniels.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: Back when they were both in college, I confused the
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: hell out of both of them. This is the worst
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: case scenario for Tampa. They had to pay Baker. They
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: did it in the final hour. Their own three and
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: Baker's out.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: So we have Jalen Daniels, we have Jaden Daniels, and
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: we have Jaden McDaniels, right? Yeah, there's too many.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: There's too many annuals and J's and A's.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: There was a time in town, you want to blow
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: your brain? There was a time in town when there
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: was a Ty Lawson playing at the same time.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. By the way.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: But with Ben Tenzer and John Wallace, I always want
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: to see Ben Wallace all the time.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: If you want a silver lining and you're a Tampa
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Bay fan, this is what Todd Bowles said after starting
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the year 0-3.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Funny thing, we're 0-3 and we're a game out of
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: first place, so... We have to get our stuff together.
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: We've got to reach down and do more to a coach,
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: to a person, to a player. We've got to do
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: more and figure out what we can do more and
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: how can we be better and come back tomorrow and
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: get ready to go.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: They're a game out of first place at 0-3.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Coach, you're going to Detroit. It's going to be cold.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: You know what? Maybe we'd be 3-0 if we played
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: in a dome.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: He's got that sympathetic voice. If you fall off your
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: bike and hurt your knee, I just want him talking
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: to me.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you want him to calm me down.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: That's right. We'll just put a Band-Aid on that.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: You hold your head up, all right?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: So the Bucs 0-3, the Vikings 3-0. Ravens beat the Cowboys.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I talked about this yesterday.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I've gone back, Brett, since you talked.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I told you it's ridiculous.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I've gone back and I've watched that probably five times.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: And you are so correct. It's like the... One of
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: the worst, most egregious clock management things I've seen in
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: a long time.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Second and goal. It's second and goal with 20 seconds left.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: The Cowboys have a timeout. Prescott scrambles. He gets tackled.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: They take the timeout immediately, which is the first mistake.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Because the next play is an incompletion. Now there's 10
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: seconds on the clock. You kick the field goal. Now
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: it's tied 31-31, 7 seconds left. They decide to boot
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: the ball out of the back of the end zone
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: instead of killing any sort of time on a punt return,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: which allows the Ravens enough time to complete a 27-yard pass,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: put them in field goal range, and close the game
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: out in regulation. It's stupid. And that's why the Cowboys
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: are 1-2 and the Ravens are 2-1. And then finally...
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Big surprise to me. I've said forever, I think the
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Saints are a good football team. I still do. The
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Raiders just went to New Orleans, a tough place to win,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: put up 35 points and won 35-27. Which begs the question,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: are we scared of the Raiders? We were never supposed
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to be in this position!
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Well, Brock Bowers comes back, right?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Is Kirk Cousins the second best quarterback in this division?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: He might be. He is right now.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Well, no.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Is he better than Bo right now? Put it this way.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: He's probably neck and neck, but 13 targets on Brock Bowers.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: He had 10 catches for 116 yards and a touch.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: He's kind of good. You think that guy matters to
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: their offense?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: He's kind of good.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Holy cow.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: That is a look around the NFL. We'll get more
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: into this with Adam Schefter at 920. Stick around.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Oh!
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Absolutely nothing to do with all that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: By.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: Anime, Star Wars, Star Trek.
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: The... The toilet suddenly shattered and collapsed beneath them.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Way.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Are you still driving that Honda?
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way... With Mosher, Lombardi, and Kane.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Pay attention and stop looking at that squirrel.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Altitude Sports Radio 92.5.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, stories around sports in the world
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: we feel like you should be aware of. So... A
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: couple things here. The MLB postseason starts today. A couple
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: big matchups, by the way. You have the tried and
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: true Red Sox-Yankees game one. That is tonight at 6 o'clock.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: You have Astros and White Sox. That's at 3 o'clock today.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: You have Cubs and Padres at 8 o'clock. So a
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: whole bunch of things going on. But did you see?
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Remember the great story the Seattle Mariners were last year?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 2: How awesome they were?
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: Well, they were a disaster this year. Complete and total.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: You know, we discussed the amazing stat that... Vlad Guerrero Jr.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: has had one home run in Toronto since last year,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: but that series against Toronto in Seattle was magical. And there's...
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I will put the MLB postseason up against anything if
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: you're just talking about chew your fingernails off sort of pressure.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: The weird thing about Seattle, they finished this year with
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: a 76-86 record. They missed the postseason. You know they
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: announced their manager was being let go, Dan Wilson? He
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: announced it in a press conference that he had at
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the end of the year.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, he said, I'm getting let go today, by the way?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Yes. Really? Yes, that's how people found out.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even realize that.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: He announced his own firing. How often does that happen?
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Did he say, this is the last time I'll talk
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: to you guys because they're firing me?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll send it to Nellie.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Here. That's kind of odd, is it not?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: It's pretty cold-blooded, I would say, right? Yeah. Nellie, I
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: just sent you a DM. You can just rip it
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: from the very beginning. Just listen to the tone from him.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: It's wild. But anyway, so go ahead.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, speaking of baseball playoffs, and you're
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: talking about the Red Sox and the Yankees, Aaron Judge
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: is not on the Yankees roster.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Well, he's hurt.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: He's had this calf injury since when?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Well, he tried to come back and play not too
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: long ago and then flared up again.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: But I mean, that was September 16th, but when did
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: he officially injure it?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, like in spring training? No, it was back in
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: like May. Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: So it's now late September and I really should be
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: back at school. Yeah. And he can't get his calf right?
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, is there an alien living in his calf muscle?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Moj, we've wondered forever with hamstrings and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: stuff like that with some guys in town. It's like,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: is this thing ever going to get right? Is it
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: ever going to be okay again? And sometimes the answer
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: is like, no, it's not.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, did you see the onside kick
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: in the Tennessee and Texas game at the end there?
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: It gave Tennessee the opportunity to try and tie the
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: game or win. Yep. Again, we're getting back to this.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: we don't know what we don't know. The kick should
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: have been disallowed and it should have been a penalty
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: because you can, you can actually drop kick and onside kick.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: But what the kicker did is he pivoted one way
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: and then pivoted back the other way. And he did
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: not kick it from the 35. He kicked it from
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: a yard short. Can I just say, so, so it
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: should have been an illegal kick. It should have been flagged.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: They should have been backed up and he should have
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: had to try it again. I, and, and by the way,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Tennessee recovered the ball and had a chance.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I love a drop kick on side kick. I think
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: that's just beautiful.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: But what happens, you have to stand at the 35
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: and you have to aim to where you're going to
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: kick it and then kick it if you're going to
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Did you see what happened over the weekend in the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Jags game when Travis Hunter got his first interception of
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: his career? So he's so excited, as a lot of
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: guys are when they get their first pick, their first touchdown, whatever.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: They drop the ball and they start sprinting everywhere. That's it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: So the ball boy picks up the ball. Josh Hines Allen,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: his teammate, goes to the ball boy to try and
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: get the ball back. And he's trying to rip the
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: ball out of the guy's hand. And the ball boy
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: is like pushing him back. And people are saying that
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Josh Hines Allen is being a jerk. I'm saying, hey,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: ball boy, how about you don't take your job that
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: seriously and get the guy the ball?
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a Patriots staffer that he got
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: to fight with.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Well, it became that after it was the dude holding
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: all the balls on the sideline.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: But it's like, hey, Hardo, give the guy the football
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: that's a football player. By the way, he was this tall.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: A little guy.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't be pushing anybody.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Eventually, they got the football and Travis Hunter got it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: So that's good. You know what you call Josh Heinz
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Allen if you're that size? You call him sir.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Pretty much, yeah. Oh, by the way, the latest odds
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: just came out. I obviously don't bet. I'm not good
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: at it. I'm not allowed to anyway. But I was
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: looking at the National Hockey League. DraftKings has a tie
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: atop its championship odds with the Hurricanes and the Panthers
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: at plus 650. Who's at plus 700? The Colorado Avalanche.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: BetMGM and FanDuel have Florida as the standalone favorite at
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: plus 650. And Caesars has the Avs in the top
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: spot at plus 600.
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, dude, everybody, the abs are right there.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I know we'll talk more about it tomorrow as we
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: get ready for game one against the Los Angeles Kings.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Coach Bednar begins his yearly escapade every week at 8 a.m. tomorrow. Yep. But, Vic,
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: the abs are still really good, despite what the ball
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: business says and whomever else. The abs are right there, bro.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: I got one for you. Yeah. For your information. Is
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: that what the segment's called?
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: For your information, yes.
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: So we asked this, right, with the new stadium going
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: to Burnham Yards, with the new development at Ball Arena.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Where's everybody going to park?
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: There's parking spots available, but it just doesn't look as,
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: you know, it's not these expansive parking lots like before.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I know a certain recording studio that I have free
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: reign at.
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: Well, today, my friend, if you're not parking at my
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: parking studio.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Adelio, today, all.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Three ownership groups, actually four here, Owners of the Nuggets
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: and Avs. We know them. Owners of the Broncos. Owners
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: of the Summit soccer team. Owners of the Rockies.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: They came together to endorse issue 7A on the ballot
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: that's coming out in November for voters. This ballot measure
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: would free up a new sales tax. A sales tax,
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: 33 cents on.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, $ 0.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: 33 on every $ 100 spent would go to a new
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: train line that's going to run from Pueblo up to
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: Fort Collins that would expand the trains.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: They call them the Coco trains. the Colorado connectors that.
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: Would run through Burnham yard, run through ball arena, run
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: through that whole area to bring fans up and down
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: the front range to those games.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: So the, and these are big train, this isn't, we're
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: not talking light rail. These are big trains, right? Like
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: big boys, the biggest.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Can the Biggins run on light? Well, hold on a second.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Where the hell would they put the track? You can't
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: run the Biggins on a light rail track.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: There's already a track there, dude. The railroad's been there forever.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: The tracks have been there forever.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but where does it come from from the south?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Pueblo. That's been there forever, dude.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I know, but let's say when it gets to Lone Tree,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: where does it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Where's the track at?
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Are you asking me to re-engineer the tracks? I don't know,
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: but my dad used to work for the railroad. Hell,
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: he fell asleep in the car of a railroad car
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: all the way to Santa Fe.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I realize that, but what I'm trying to say
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: to you is I don't know where they're going to
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: put a new track because you can't... This train is big.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: All I'm telling you is now sports has become involved
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: in this. And, you know, sports and politics aren't supposed
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: to mix, but when it comes to carrying fans to games,
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: you know, these stadiums and these outfits, they're going to
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: be relying on People coming to those games without parking.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. So I have a couple of questions because I
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: know how government works. Is this going to get actually done?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Or is this going to take 15 years for it
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: to get done, number one? Number two, if you do this,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: can you do me a favor? Can we have some
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: security on the trains so that when I get on there,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: there's not somebody doing drugs in the aisle across from me?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Are you speaking of the train to D.I.A.? God, man.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: No, Vic. Talking about the train to downtown and around.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember the last time I went on there.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just being honest. I would love to take that.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I love taking the train to Union Station to go
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: to the Rockies game or whatever. Some of these trains.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Sketchy.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I'd never take my daughter on that train.
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: Never.
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: Ever.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Nope. Ever, ever, ever. And there's never a security person
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: in sight.
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: Ever.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: This is a passenger train which is set to link
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Union Station to Westminster, Broomfield. Boulder, Longmont, Loveland, Fort Collins,
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: three daily trips starting in 2029.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big boy train. It really is. Hey,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be on record, though, with trains. I've
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: been in Denver for 30 years, and I've heard just
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: a boatload about trains, and we finally got the light
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: rail and so on and so forth. I'm going to
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: treat these trains, Vic, up the mountain train and this
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Coco train, I'm going to treat it, and I like trains. Hell,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: I've ridden trains all over Colorado. I'm going to treat
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: it like aliens. Until you show me a live alien
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: or a dead alien or a live train or a
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: dead train that has tracks that could actually possibly move
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: one day, I ain't hearing it. I don't want to
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: hear about aliens. I don't want to hear about aliens.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Aliens or trains are nothing.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: You keep talking about these tracks. The tracks are already laid.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: They've been there forever. The tracks are there. It's just
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: getting the trains running.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: 33 cents on every $ 100.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: That's the tax.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: But, Vic, I'm trying to picture in my head. So
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: you're talking to the ones that come up Santa Fe.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: So it comes up through Littleton. Is that right? Yeah,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: the train tracks that run up Santa Fe from 470
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: all the way up. So that goes through Littleton to downtown.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: It has to. It has to.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, I want to play this audio
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: for you because, Vic, I don't think you heard this
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the segment. Dan Wilson, who is
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: the manager or was the manager of the Seattle Mariners,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: this is his last press conference. Listen to this. Oh,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I got it. This season has been very difficult.
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: And, of course, the results have not been what any
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: of us have expected.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: As a result, it was concluded that today is my
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: last day as manager of the Seattle Mariners.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: I'm still processing this with my family and it's a
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: very difficult day.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: May I ask you something? How often have people announced
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: their own firing? He went to that press conference and
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: nobody knew it. Nobody knew it. Like this wasn't, hey,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: you're fired and we'll give you a press conference on
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: the way out. He went to the press conference and
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, thanks for coming. By the way, this
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: is my last day. He announced it himself. That's weird.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Doug Moe back in the day.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: Organized a firing press conference by himself.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: He and Jane, his wife. He did. Pretty badass. He did. Anyway,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: that's all by the way.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Doug Moe, one of a kind, man.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Adam Schefter is going to join us in 20 minutes.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Stick around.