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Two Ts Presents: Popping Off: "May The Best Woman Win" (VPR Ep 11) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by
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  Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spinoff show Popping Off,
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  Speaker 1: where we are digging deep on this season of vander
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  Speaker 1: Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Popping Off.
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  Speaker 1: I was gone last week and I'm here with Emily Simpson.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, I was like, when are you going to say
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  Speaker 2: my name? Are we just going to keep going ahead
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  Speaker 2: with just Teddy Mellencamp. Yeah, they're just making this all
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  Speaker 2: about me because I.
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  Speaker 1: Was actually actually going to pay Gina a compliment. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of people messaged me that they loved
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  Speaker 1: Gina recapping with you. They said she was really good
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that she was able to pick it
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  Speaker 1: up that quickly, and.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, get it, get it, Gina. Well, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, Gina and I are good together, even though
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  Speaker 2: she is very good, and I appreciate the fact that
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  Speaker 2: she had to watch two shows, but yeah, she's great
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  Speaker 2: and we do a good job together. So there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of chemistry there. So what you're saying is we
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  Speaker 2: don't have chemistry. No, we have a lot of chemistry too.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of chemistry there. So what you're saying
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  Speaker 2: is you have a crush on me. I have always
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  Speaker 2: had a crush on you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, now that we've cleared that up all of our
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  Speaker 1: inappropriate conversations. I I I am on so little sleep.
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  Speaker 1: I know you are too. We're not really supposed to
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  Speaker 1: probably talk about it. But I've seen everybody posting that
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  Speaker 1: you guys were in London, so it's pretty clear that
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  Speaker 1: that cat's out of the bag.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to be the one to confirm,
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  Speaker 2: or Tony so Well, I have a question.
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  Speaker 1: Were you back in time to see the eclipse? And
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  Speaker 1: did you see it?
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  Speaker 2: I saw the eclipse from an airport.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was here in Los Angeles and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: see the eclipse. I saw lots of people stake to
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  Speaker 1: out like to watch the eclipse. I realized I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: aware of the timing of the eclipse, but I did
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  Speaker 1: feel like maybe the eclipse affected me because I did.
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  Speaker 2: Not I have not slept in two days. I just wait,
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  Speaker 2: you think it's because of the eclipse. Well, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It could also be that I'm going through perimenopause or
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  Speaker 1: that I have to have another.
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  Speaker 2: Removal tomorrow. In the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know it could be going on, but you're
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  Speaker 1: saying you didn't. You were not affected at all by
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  Speaker 1: the eclipse.
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  Speaker 2: No. I was affected by many other things that I
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  Speaker 2: cannot talk about, many other factors.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well this episode we are going to
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  Speaker 1: recap Vanderpump Rules season eleven, episode eleven.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh so exciting. Eleven eleven were getting deep into it.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting deep into it. We have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: guests coming up too, like from vander Pump, which is
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  Speaker 2: also exciting, Like we have all the all the main
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  Speaker 2: the main hitters. Who would be a main hitter like
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  Speaker 2: Ann or Joe. It's not Joe, It's not, Oh my gosh, Joe. Really.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think maybe because I watched two episodes
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  Speaker 1: back to back because I missed last week when I
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  Speaker 1: was on spring break.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like that much Joe was and listen more power
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  Speaker 2: to Joe.
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  Speaker 1: But then I went back and watched the Katie Maloney
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  Speaker 1: watch What Happens Live where everybody said, like there was
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  Speaker 1: a poll like do you think that Shorts and Joe
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  Speaker 1: would be a good like are in a good thing?
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  Speaker 1: Like should actually be together? And they want that pull
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  Speaker 1: like people think they should. Well, you know, she's definitely devoted.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, if that's what you're looking for in
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  Speaker 2: a relationship, is just one hundred percent pure blind devotion
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  Speaker 2: that works.
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  Speaker 1: Would you go to a singles event with somebody that
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  Speaker 1: you've had sex with for over a year.
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  Speaker 2: No. But I don't even understand why she thought that
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  Speaker 2: was a good idea. Did she think he was not participating?
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  Speaker 2: She thought that they were going to support Sandoval. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no way you thought that.
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  Speaker 1: And also I've decided that I think the blonde hair
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  Speaker 1: was full sabotage.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the blonde hair was awful. It was evil. It's
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  Speaker 2: not a good look. I mean, I think Schwartz is cute.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's endearing. I think he has a way
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  Speaker 2: about him that's attractive. But that blonde hair just nigging
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  Speaker 2: did everything I just said.
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  Speaker 1: And then it made me concerned when the other gal
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  Speaker 1: at the hair salon had to step in for her,
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  Speaker 1: like she's like, I think we maybe need to put
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  Speaker 1: some toner on that.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh god.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, before we get into this actual episode, we
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  Speaker 1: have some headlines to get through. Uh. This first one
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  Speaker 1: is from Variety, which It's very different when we get
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  Speaker 1: like a Variety headline versus like, you know, queens of
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  Speaker 1: Bravo inst we're saying hello drama or Christian snow Like
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  Speaker 1: it's I'm not discrediting any of the you know, those
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  Speaker 1: type of posts.
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  Speaker 2: But Variety is like Variety does their their background shack.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Variety's gonna give us the real, real but it
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  Speaker 1: they're saying faith stours. A former vander Pump Rules cast
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  Speaker 1: member accused NBC Universal on Friday of racist harassment and retaliation,
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  Speaker 1: becoming the latest Bravo star to sue over her treatment
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  Speaker 1: on a popular reality show and her lawsuit. She alleges
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  Speaker 1: that castmate Lalla kn't brandish.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that word is.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for stepping in because I was like brand
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  Speaker 1: dish should I knew I was.
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  Speaker 2: Going to have to step in on that one. It's
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  Speaker 2: a brandish What does that mean? Like she like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: brand I don't know to say accept.
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  Speaker 1: You're all big talk, Like I know I was going
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  Speaker 1: to have to step in for that that. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what's the definition? You're like, you know, like this like
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  Speaker 1: brandish it like you know, she waved the round in
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  Speaker 1: front of her Okay brandished a knife at her during
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  Speaker 1: an argument in season four, held it to her net
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  Speaker 1: whoa held it to her neck and threatened to cut
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  Speaker 1: a bit. Stours alleges that the show's executive producer discouraged
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  Speaker 1: her from reporting the knife incident to police. She also
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  Speaker 1: alleges that Lisa Vanner Pump warned that she would be
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  Speaker 1: terminated if she did not find a way to get
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  Speaker 1: along with Kent. In the latest lawsuit, Stours alleges that
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  Speaker 1: she was subjected to racial slurs and was mocked for
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  Speaker 1: her Well, I'm putting in quotes because this is what
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  Speaker 1: it said in the article nappy hair. While appearing on
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  Speaker 1: the show. Stet Ours is represented by Brian Friedman and
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  Speaker 1: Mark there Goes, the attorneys who worked with former Real
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  Speaker 1: Housewives Bethany Frankel to bring the reality reckoning. This does
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  Speaker 1: not surprise me. She waited till now because it's the
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  Speaker 1: same lawyer. So I think that anybody that has an
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  Speaker 1: issue is going to align in this lawsuit with Bethany.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. I think the timing is like we were
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  Speaker 2: talking about the timing. It has to do with the
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  Speaker 2: fact that this whole article on the Reality Reckoning came out,
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  Speaker 2: it's now a topic people are talking about it, so
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  Speaker 2: timing wise, it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: And do you think it's on purpose that each person
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  Speaker 1: is really from a lawyer standpoint, not from like a viewer,
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  Speaker 1: but like as I know that this isn't your form
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  Speaker 1: of law, but that they're pacing out the different announcements
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  Speaker 1: at different times, like of each person. And then how
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  Speaker 1: many more people do you think are going to come forward?
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  Speaker 1: And like what's the spacing timeline?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I never really thought about that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's a good question, And I don't know if that
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  Speaker 2: has to do a strategy where you don't want to like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, throw all all of your all your eggs.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to crash them all at once, like
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  Speaker 2: you want to save your age. You want to like
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  Speaker 2: throw one out at the time. I guess, so maybe
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  Speaker 2: that there is some strategy with this, So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know who knows.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's going to be more sorry not
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  Speaker 1: my kids, school's calling. Why does that always happen? Like
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know what's happening. Cruise is pretending to
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  Speaker 1: have a headache and he needs to have water and
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to go to violin class.
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  Speaker 2: That's so funny because my phone was just blowing up.
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  Speaker 2: As Annabelle she got out at two oh five. It
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  Speaker 2: is now two seventeen, and she has called me eight times,
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  Speaker 2: like I texted, call your dad. I'm busy. I seriously
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  Speaker 2: want to tell Cruise like you don't. And here's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I told him, you can quit violin, but you have
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  Speaker 1: to quit yourself. You have to go to the teacher
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  Speaker 1: and tell them you don't want to do it anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And he's not. He doesn't want to do that.
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  Speaker 1: No, he wants me to do it. And I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I don't mind that you quit.
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  Speaker 1: You don't like it, You're over it. You're the one
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  Speaker 1: that wanted to sign yourself. You wanted to be signed
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  Speaker 1: up for this extracurricular activity, and now you want out,
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  Speaker 1: then you have to quit. That's the way it works,
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  Speaker 1: that's life. But he doesn't. So every single time it's
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  Speaker 1: violin class, yeah, it's the same call.
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  Speaker 2: It's the school nurse and I have to text her.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, if he doesn't want to go to violin,
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  Speaker 1: he's welcome to have the conversation. Blah blah blah. I
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  Speaker 1: guess I just got off on a tangent. But that's
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  Speaker 1: kids for us, like they do. They think that we
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  Speaker 1: were born yesterday and then we didn't have the same shit.
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  Speaker 2: Of course they do. My kids do the dumbest stuff,
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  Speaker 2: like when you tell them to clean their room and
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  Speaker 2: then they just shove everything under the bed. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not dumb. I'm gonna look under the bed. Yeah no, well, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, sorry to go on a rampage, but have you
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  Speaker 1: seen my You've been gone so maybe haven't. But you
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  Speaker 1: realize that I'm raising eggs right now? Pet eggs? What
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  Speaker 1: eggs of what? Well we think it's a duck, but
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  Speaker 1: we're not sure. So you just found random eggs, slate.
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  Speaker 1: We were at the barn. She found eggs, and then
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  Speaker 1: she has brought them home because they have what they
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: have like goats and cows and ducks and chicken like
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  Speaker 1: it's a whole thing at the barn.
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  Speaker 2: So you you stole someone's children. She stole someone's children.
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  Speaker 1: And then now she has put because our rule is
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  Speaker 1: if she's going to be on a group chat with anybody,
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  Speaker 1: she has to add me. So now I'm on I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, five to six group chats with her discussing
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  Speaker 1: the eggs their development. I have to turn on the
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  Speaker 1: heat lamp every two hours and turn it back off.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's NonStop texting throughout the day. How are the eggs?
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  Speaker 2: Are the eggs? I hope it's snakes. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're scrambled. I really think last night she
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  Speaker 1: poached them. I woke up one of the eggs was
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: so hot this morning. I was like, shit, it's you
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  Speaker 1: can't pick this shit up anyways. Back to business, Jack
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  Speaker 1: Taylor clames vander Pump Rules is scripted Page six article Here,
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  Speaker 1: former vander Pump rulestar Jax Taylor claimed that the hit
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  Speaker 1: Bravo show is now scripted, despite being completely organic in
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  Speaker 1: its early seasons. TikToker Kate Riscio caught the reality TV
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  Speaker 1: star ranting at his bar about how the Pump Rules
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  Speaker 1: cast doesn't even out with each other in real life.
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  Speaker 1: Show me a scripted show and I'll show you and
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  Speaker 1: vander Pump Rules. Jack said to a crowd at Jack's studio,
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  Speaker 1: City and a video obtained by Page six scripted scripted.
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  Speaker 1: I've been on this show for nine years. This is scripted,
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  Speaker 1: he continued. I'll be on it next and I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you what it was scripted. He continued, claiming that it
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: didn't used to be that way. Don't get me wrong.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: When we started it was awesome. He clarified. Seasons one
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: through six were organic.
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  Speaker 2: It was real.
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  Speaker 1: However, once everyone got rich and famous, they drifted apart
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  Speaker 1: in their relationships became fake. According to Jack's nobody shows
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: up with Chanelle earrings at the beach, he joked, he.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like someone who might have gotten fired.
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  Speaker 1: He does, but like, I hate to be the bearer
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  Speaker 1: of bad news. But you agree with him, No, I
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  Speaker 1: just agree that at this point, the Valley is better
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  Speaker 1: than vander Pump rules. Well, I think the Valley is
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  Speaker 1: better because it makes more sense. These are actual adults
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  Speaker 1: with children who all live next to each other, and
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  Speaker 1: they're coexisting and their friends and their husbands are involved,
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to make a show work that
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  Speaker 1: revolved around people that were in their twenties working at
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  Speaker 1: a bar and still having them hang out together at
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  Speaker 1: forty when they all forty own bars and homes and
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  Speaker 1: right like it haven't really other. I mean now they're
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  Speaker 1: trying to bring in the kit. I'm not hating Vanner
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  Speaker 1: Pump Rules. I'm just saying, like, yes, now, after watching
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  Speaker 1: Vanner Pump Villa and The Valley, I see, I see
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  Speaker 1: what Jacks is saying. But I also think, like Jack's
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  Speaker 1: be a little bit. I do know that it's the
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  Speaker 1: same production company for The Valley and Vanner Pump Rules.
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  Speaker 2: Like you mean you want Jacks to have a little class,
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  Speaker 2: maybe some manners, just a titch, just a touch, or
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  Speaker 2: maybe he should have people like leave their cell phones
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  Speaker 2: at the door when they come to his bar. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but also maybe you should have formally invited us so
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  Speaker 2: we could have taken like video footage of this happening
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  Speaker 2: and it's not just a rumored thing that he has. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we could get much better video. We'd be like, excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what did you say? And who do you
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  Speaker 2: think is the most scripted? And do you think you
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  Speaker 2: were the star of the show?
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  Speaker 1: Because that also leads to more questions that I have
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  Speaker 1: once we get started.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, exit. Vanner Pump Villa's Eric thunder White claims he
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  Speaker 2: abused her in a sun or before he was hired
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  Speaker 2: as the chateau manager at the Vander Pump Rolls Stars
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  Speaker 2: French countryside of State. Eric was in a five year
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  Speaker 2: relationship with his ax, who made allegations of abuse and assault.
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  Speaker 2: On November thirteenth, twenty twenty, Eric's ex filed a request
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  Speaker 2: for a temporary restraining order against him after claiming she
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  Speaker 2: suffered years of abuse, which she detailed in court documents
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  Speaker 2: exclusively obtained by the Sun. The alleged abuse is believed
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  Speaker 2: to have begun as far back as twenty eighteen, when
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  Speaker 2: the woman, whose identity the US Sun has chosen to protect,
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  Speaker 2: claims Eric quote grabbed her by the neck outside of
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  Speaker 2: their car because she didn't want to drive. In December
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  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, he accused her of quote attacking him quote
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  Speaker 2: with a pillow end quote before I'm sorry, would you
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  Speaker 2: like to comment on that? Listen, I'm going to attack
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  Speaker 2: you with the pillow?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, what what like you like a pillow or.
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  Speaker 2: Like like oh, like a smothering situation.
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  Speaker 1: If it was reversed, yeah, I would have a different
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  Speaker 1: reaction to this. But him accusing her of attacking him
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  Speaker 1: with the poet like he seems like a pretty tall,
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  Speaker 1: stout gentleman. Yes, a gentleman, I mean not a gentleman,
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  Speaker 1: but a dude, A man a man pretending to be it,
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  Speaker 1: says he accused her of attacking him with a pillow
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  Speaker 1: before he started to strangle her.
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  Speaker 2: That's also another question.
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  Speaker 1: If somebody throws a pillow at you, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that gives you the right to then strangle them.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not like the violence has to be a portionate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be like it's one thing like
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  Speaker 1: when we saw from selling what is it selling Beverly
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  Speaker 1: not selling Beverly Hills.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want those which whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw that the husband is through the
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  Speaker 1: glass selling sunset through the glass at the wife and
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  Speaker 1: it hit the sun like, that's different. But to hit
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  Speaker 1: with the pillow, when a girl hits with the pillow,
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  Speaker 1: and then your response is to strangle No, no, sir,
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  Speaker 1: no Eric.
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  Speaker 2: The next day, she checks herself into the hospital because
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  Speaker 2: her neck was hurting. When she explained to the hospital
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  Speaker 2: staff what had happened, they wanted to involve the police,
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  Speaker 2: but she said she was scared because Eric previously threatened
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  Speaker 2: to kill me. Photos included in the court documents from
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  Speaker 2: March third, twenty twenty show Eric's x with a swollen
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  Speaker 2: black eye, red marks on the side of her face
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  Speaker 2: and Bruce's on her backside. Okay, here's my question. I
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  Speaker 2: don't understand. I believe they do background checks before they
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  Speaker 2: bring people on reality TV. That's what I thought too.
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  Speaker 2: But maybe because I mean, she didn't go forward with it,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But there's all these there's all these
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  Speaker 2: court documents that the US SUN found detailed court documents
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  Speaker 2: exclusively obtained by the US SON Like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: someone did not do a good job vetting or I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like at this point, Lisa vander Pump has
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  Speaker 2: done an excellent job at.
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  Speaker 1: Finding the world's biggest assholes to be on television.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what a huge liability. You're really going to
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  Speaker 2: hire someone with a violent cast and put them in
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  Speaker 2: a chateau with women. If you're on notice of that,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a that's a legal issue, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really, I not many people on that cast
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  Speaker 1: are very likable. And Eric thunder White is at the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of the list.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds like a cartoon name. Well also, like it's
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  Speaker 2: so I'm surprised he didn't change it, Like, clearly he's
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  Speaker 2: an aspiring actor, Like, why wouldn't you change your name?
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  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you at least change it to thunder white? Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: or just thunder thunder Yeah, thunder white. It sounds like
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you have a list thunder. It's arn rainy and thundering outside.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Their funder is really making for me to sleep. There's
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: a lot of thunder today. Instagram user at stuff with
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the deeps. I didn't know if that was Dad Eats
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: or just da Deep. I wish it was Daddy Eats.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I'm so hungry right now doing the pot it too.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: It's not the best time reviews Rachel Loves's podcast episode
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: regarding Katie Maloney and Dana Kathan. Rachel appeared at the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: iHeartRadio Music Awards. Did you get invited? No? I don't understand. Hello,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: where was our invite? It was weird, like I missed it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I was like checking. I wanted to be the best
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: of the worst dressed. I was open to either, but
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: you would most likely get worst dressed. Just giving me
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: your past history, just in life in general.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: What do you mean I'm gonna win a poll one day? Yeah? Yeah,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: worst dressed? I just spin up my poppy. Yeah, sorry
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: about your poppy. She made the best dress list, while
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Katie and Dana were named among the worst dress at
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the award show. Rachel encouraged Joe to post the best
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: dress and worst dress pictures to her Instagram story, which
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Rachel then reposted. She admits these actions were petty. Rachel
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: claimed she reached out to Katie and Dana to apologize
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: to them personally. On her podcast, she talks about wanting
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: to empower women, not tear them down. Steph says this
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: is ironic considering her ongoing lawsuit against Arianomatics. She also
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: continues to place blame on others for Scanda all.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Why can't Rachel either just completely keep her mouth shut
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: or just to admit that she is petty, or.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Just not apologize for being petty, Just be petty and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: own it. I hate when people act a certain way
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: and then they apologize later.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah I got to just double down. Yeah I got
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: my bad behavior. If it's something petty that's not actually
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: hurting someone, why not just let your pettiness be out
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: there publicly and just go with it like that. At
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that point, I wonder, are you just trying to get
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: pressed to say, like, oh, I made a mistake on
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: what I was saying, and I want to go back
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I mean it didn't. I mean I still remember it.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: And it happened like seven years ago when US Weekly
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: posted a picture of me and Brooke Burke in the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: same outfit, and then Brooke Burke put it on her
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Instagram that she won.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: The better dressed. Yeah, who wore it better? Yeah?
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And then she got like raged through the coals, like
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: that is so rude, Like, clearly you're going to look better.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Than chatty Brooke and had a potato back on, and
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: she would have won.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I could be and it doesn't matter what I'm worrying
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Broke wins, but I I don't know.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I also, I didn't think Rachel's outfit was that special.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: It was a black dress. Yeah, I don't what did wait,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: what did Joe have on? Was Joe Joe? No, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: don't think Joe was there.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Joe and Joe and Rachel clearly just still talk because
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: they had, you know, those ongoing.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Rachel Rachel got Joe to post it. Yeah, Okay,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: so Joe, it's not actually a photo of Joe. It's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: just Joe posting that Rachel was best dressed and Katy
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: was worst dressed. Correct, So Joe's being shady on on.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Rachel's behalf, which I think is true to course, on
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: what their entire relationship has been, which I also want
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to be Like, Rachel, why are you still talking to
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Joe if you want completely away from this group of people.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Joe has recently done a post that she is still
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: in love with Shorts, So why are you still friends
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: with her?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Exactly because she can manipulate her. Yeah, well, Joe's easily manipulated,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the fact that Rachel can manipulate Joe's well.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Speaking of interesting characters, Kristin reveals on her podcast she
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: almost ruined Tom Sandoval and Ariana's first trip together. Before
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I even get into this headline or this clip from
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Kristen's new podcast. Have you ever had a ex boyfriend
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: or Shane's or anyone's like login information and have you
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: ever checked?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: No? Never, I don't even know Shane's password right now
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: currently after fifteen years of marriage and three children, even
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: his cell phone like the numbers I could not get into.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I've never been able to get into his cell phone,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: but he knows mine. Hold you don't know. I have
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: never known. I've never known the password to his phone.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, if I really wanted to make it a thing.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I would be like, you have to tell me now,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I need to know, but I don't really care. I mean,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: we're talking about Shane Simpson, like he won the lottery
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: with me. He's not out there doing anything wrong. So
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I just like to.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Always have my finger on the pulse, like I want
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to know every code. I don't know, but either way,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Kristen went on like she was still living with Sandoval
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: when the relationship was you know, bull fledged with Ariana.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: She went on, and she kept saying in this clip
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: that she she deleted the map the iPad because the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: iPad was solely for porn, so she only kept the
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: mac Book Pro or whatever I made.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that, so that I'm sorry, this is
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the iPad was only for porn. Yeah, She's like, the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: very sticky iPad is very sick.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So the she deleted that knowledge because that was
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: of No, she didn't care about the porn, but she
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: did want access I guess to his emails. She logged
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: onto his email account, she knows password. She found out
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that he had booked this trip and with Arianna, like
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I guess, right after New Year's So she called her
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: mom and.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Said like mom, what do I do?
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I'm so upset He's already booked this trip with Ariana,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and her mom was like, well, one, Kristen, like, you're
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: already broken up, You're supposed to be moving out January first,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: but if you really want to get him, you should
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: call it and cancel the hot balloon reservation.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: And then with pride she goes. But I didn't. I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: feel like she should have though, and I like that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I liked that it was her mom's idea too.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I also want to know who wants to go on
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a hot balloon date because I don't.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Not me, didn't some people just die recently and the
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: hot balloon disaster. Also the people that do like trampoline
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: jumping on a hot balloon and I'm like, where's your parachute?
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Like what are you doing? Like what are you doing?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: And also I don't want to go on that date.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I don't not interested, not with Sandoval, not with anyone.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, Kristin said she had growth, but we're seeing
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: that growth and we'll recap it when we get to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: our next podcast and talk about the valley.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Are we onto the gender reveal? Onto the gender reveal?
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I have to say I was actually proud of Lalla
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: that this gender reveal wasn't like cannons in the backyard,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: like shooting colors through the air. It was like it
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: was literally a cake. Like I have to give her
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: credit for just doing like a normal gender reveal. It
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: was on Amazon Live. That's fine, it's fine. I don't
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: care if it's on Amazon Live. I'm just so glad
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: that it wasn't like a helicopter shooting pink like firecrackers
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: out of the side of it in the part that
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: it beens.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: You would be if she would have, like had somebody
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: poke a balloon and it goes, yes, that's not she No,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Girl, make your money, but I love that you made
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: money just by baking a cake. She wasn't going to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: spend any of her own damn money, like she's getting
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: all the proceeds.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, granted, we all do things for money. I
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: remember having to wait to post Dove's birth because people
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: had the first.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Option for the photo and I had to be like, oh,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: hold on, I wait to poach good. I already made it,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: but I didn't make any money for that. It was
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: just like it. I don't think so shit. I don't know.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: But either way, how do you feel about gender reveals
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: in general? And did you think she was going to
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: have a.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Girl or boy? You know, I didn't really think about it,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: but I mean, I'm glad she's having a girl. Now
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: she has super girls. I think that's super cute and
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: super sweet. I don't know, I don't really understand the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: whole gender reveal thing. I've never done one because I
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: didn't vitro for all my children.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I did one for Dov, and the disappointment and Edwin
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and Cruz's face when they realized that Dove was going
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to be a girl was palpable.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Did you do it? Were you obnoxious? Were you one
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: of those obnoxious people with like pink sparklers? Of course
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I was. I filmed it, okay, but besides filming it, I.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Know, but that's already obnoxious. I filmed it and it
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't even aired.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were like, that's that's it's boring cut. But no,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I think we had two balloons and then we.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Let like the kit all the kids pop them and
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: then the color went out, and Cruise.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And Edwin were like crying, but.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It is a girl. Congratulations, Lawa. But now I think
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: we need to start guessing the name. She has one
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: daughter named Ocean, and the new daughter is going to
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: be with an s. We know, do you think that
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: other daughter's name is going to be salty, seaweed, steal.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: It has to be something with the ocean. It has
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to be. That's why I said seaweed, you know, seaweed, salt, peel, steel.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: What does steel have to do with the steel seal? Like?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You said steel like steel? Okay, seal, that's true seals.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I mean there's already one seal. I don't know that
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: you want to.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Let Oh, it could be swim.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Swim like an action word. Yeah, do you think it's
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: going to be an adjective or a noun?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: A nown? How about shell? It could be submerged, seashell, seashell.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: And then you call her Shelley, Shelley seashell shit. I
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: should have asked La la.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Anyways, then we get onto Zach Wickham, who was on
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the Vile Files. Zach is also from the Valley. He's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the guy that looks like he has on a to
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: pe at all times, two head like I have like
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a seven head, and he has like maybe like a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: one little baby pinky head.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he tells he doesn't really give us.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I was hoping we were going to get some good information,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: but he just told us it was like a watch
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: What Happens Live episode, Where's like, you gotta keep watching.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Zach No, Yeah, fell the tea. If you're gonna go
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: in the pod, give us one little juicy snack. You
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: didn't This part I thought was interesting.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Remember when Scandaval first happened and Tom's first interview was
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: with Howie Mandel, Yes, and he's talking about how he's
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you know, and then throughout the beginning of the season,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: how he's saving himself for Rachel. He's getting you know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: he's not drinking because Rachel can't drink while she's in
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: therapy and treatment. But on this recent episode, if Hawie
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Mandell does stuff, Howie has his son's friend, Olivia sloan On,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: who claims she met Santoval out and hung out with
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: him a few times for a month after Scanival happened
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: while this was happening. So I'm like, this all makes
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: sense now, this is why he chose Howie Mandel, who
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: knew nothing about the situation because he was banging Howie
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Mandel's daughter well, it's not the daughter, it's it's how
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Howie's son's friend.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Oh okay.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: And then she kind of looked like one of the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: girls that was in the pool at the beach at
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the party, and I was like, oh, I had to google,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: but it's not her.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Oh so she had no personality and nothing to say.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Does she just look offended in every shot?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: But Howie says while Rachel was in lockdown, Olivia and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Sandoval were locking it up.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Santoval, this is just a PSA to you.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: You chose the wrong person to do your first interview with, clearly,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: because now not only was that interview terrible, but now
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it's coming back to haunt you forever because Olivia was
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: not holding back on the information.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't have her sign in NDA. No, I
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: don't think and it wasn't On top of that, he
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: just needs to have one.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: In his pocket at all times. Did you see that
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: on watching What Happens Live? And he was like, we
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: love and justice for Ann. You can coun Bartend whenever
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you want. Coming to Bartend is like the ultimate, Like
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Shade though, I think, well it's.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: The it's like the ultimate. It's like a climax with
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: the biggest letdown ever. It's like, I'm gonna be on
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: watch what Happens live, and then it's like, oh, but
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: you don't get to talk or the camera will show
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: you at all. It's like you're not even really there
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and you're not actually even serving drinks. So you're just
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: standing at a bar hoping that maybe someone turns around
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: and acknowledges that you exist.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: They're going to have a twenty second timeframe to plug
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, your pizza, your workout regime, whatever it
• 33:07
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• 33:09
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• 33:12
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  Speaker 1: in check. Now we're into the episode. It's part two
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: of beach Day, which I hate beach days like this.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I don't ever like.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I don't like going to that beach for the way
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that they even have to walk down that Like in
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Orange County, it's a very different beach experience.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: You just walk onto the beach and then you see
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: the water.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in Malibu or Santa Monica, you have to walk
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: like seven hundred and fifty steps like before you even
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: get anywhere near the water.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That you would never even go in the water there
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: anyway because it's pollute, but you have to get near
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: it so it looks like you're actually on a beach
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and not just in a sandbox, a large sandbox.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: But it's we're back to talking about arian are refusing
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: to be near Santa Va anymore.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Show Shorts takes him to a bar so he can
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: have a breather. I love Shorts he's always like he
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: tries so hard. It's like he's clueless about Like he's
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: always confused that things like this are going to happen
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: and then people aren't going to respond well to it. Yeah,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: and then he tries to remedy it every time.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: But I also, I don't know that I necessarily one
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: hundred percent believe that Tom is out buying the paper towels,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: the batteries and doing all these things. But yet and
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: is picking up his personal messes and washing his car. Yeah,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: like wash washing everything? Like, really, Tom, and is that
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: is in your opinion? Is buying home necessity is like
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a big deal?
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Like for me, I don't even go to the grocery store.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: I just go on Amazon, o'h like Amazon Fresh. No,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about for batteries or paper towels. Oh, I
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't have an Amazon account, so what
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: I know? I know life is so difficult for me.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know my husband's password to his phone, and
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I don't have any Amazon account. I'm sorry, I'm offended
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: by this information. I know, how do you live? Where
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: do you buy things? Well, anytime I find something on
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Amazon that I would like to buy to I have
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: to text the link to Shane and ask him to
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: buy it for me.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I would end up divorced because my amount of late
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: night shopping on Amazon for useless things that will never
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: work or are unnecessary for my life.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I know, well, my Amazon account got all messed up
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: and I've never been able to fix it, and so
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I just gave up. I can help you with this,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I can help you. I will fix this problem for
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: you and them, I know, right. And I don't have
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: instacar either, because I had so many people try to
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: hack into it that I had to delete it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I actually I don't like Instacart. I don't like somebody
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: grocery shopping like a I don't like a stranger grocery
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: shopping right because then they're like left to their own
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: devices to.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: They're like they don't you don't like like the fresh
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: fruit of veggies they pick out no, and then it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Comes and mistakes happen, like I'll say like I want
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: a banana, and then like they'll.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Bring or one banana. I don't let you know. I've
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: done that too, where I thought I ordered three bananas,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: but instead I got three pounds of bananas.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Then we get into Sheino wants to set Shorts up
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: with her former nanny, Tory.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: We get a flashback to six days ago when Tory
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: confronts Shorts, telling him she thinks he's hot, but Katie
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: told Sheena she wants to date Toy. Is this an
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: audition tape that Tory is submitting to be on this show?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Because I don't believe that she's into either of them.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I was thinking the same thing. I
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: was like, it's all really convenient that this girl shows
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: up and then two people are interested in her at
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: the same time. It's very suspect.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: But the entire group, of course, then heads to the
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: same beach bar, which means like they already had, you know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the permit sign and everything like this, They knew they
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: weren't gonna last long with the book Are you Yawning?
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Sorry, don't longs to read? Always say are you Yawnie?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Then the group heads to the same bar. Stand of
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: all approaches the group of random girls buying them a shot.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Tory walks up to Shorts and he jokingly calls her
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend. Tory is very upfront with that she thinks
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: he's hot and he wants she wants him to ask
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: her on a real date, and then Katie fully cop
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: blocks the situation and is like, one, that's not champagne,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: it's sparkling wine.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: And I don't know.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I just felt like Toy wanting to date both of
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: them felt pretty convenient for her. For her, Yeah, like, yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: do you think she's into either of them? I think
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: she wanted to babysit summer moon, Like, I don't think
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: she want to do any of those.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, she definitely didn't want a babysit. She was like, wait,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: why am I here again? What am I doing? I
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: think that she wants to be on TV, and however
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: she can make that work, whether it's the nanny or
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: dating Katie or sleeping with shorts. She's a willing participant
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: in whatever avenue works for her. Okay, so she's ready.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: She's down. Ariana is not down.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: She acknowledges that anger she has towards Santaval isn't healthy.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: This is I feel like this season, it's the first
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: time we've seen her break down in an emotional, like
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: crying type way.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Right, it's always mean. It's been such anger, such intense
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: anger where he can't even walk and she's like like
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: he's like trying to sneak past her and she attacks him. Yeah,
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: and I and I did appreciate that. We saw like
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: a more vulnerable side.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, like I created this whole life for him and
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I realized for us and this was supposed to be
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: my dream. Like that part I one million percent like
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I get.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: And then this is the problem.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: I also see Laala's side that I just saw when
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: she was on a podcast, and she's saying, if this
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: person triggers you to this point and makes you so
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: unhappy and so miserable, how did you have a boyfriend
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: ten days later? And why would you choose to still
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: live with this person if you like, just get out.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: So I for the first time I saw both sides.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Normally I just see laalas, but this time I saw both.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did too. And I think her reason for
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: saying in the house is she's so she's so committed
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: or connected to that home, like even talking with the
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: interior designer and going over the receipts and talking about
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: every piece of furniture, like she clearly just can't walk
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: away from it. I think it's like at this point,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: it's about winning. She's in a very winning, I need
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: to win kind of attitude.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like if I think the biggest issue is if
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Tom for one second were to say to Ariana, I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: loved you so much and things went askew and my
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: love went away, and instead of ending it, I did
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the worst possible thing I could have done to you,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and I portrayed you and I'm so sorry. I do
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: think we would have a different app I think she
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: would have moved through this in a different way.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably Did you write that down and send it
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: to him? Maybe journal it? Oh I could journal it
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: and then cry about it in my closet. Yeah, because
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like maybe I feel like those words were
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: excellent choice, thank you, and that you should share those
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: with him, because I'm not I moved. I felt very moved.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I forgave you you, forgave me for cheating on you. Yes,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: in that moment, I forgave you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Thanks, But clearly this isn't happening. And then we have
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: to see lots of awkward makeouts this episode.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, lots between Katie telling Tory that she's had
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: sex with a girl.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: This is all fine, but then when they start kissing
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: at the bar and shorts are still there and we've
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: already seen Tory as Shorts out on a date. This
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to me didn't feel like the most organic kiss. No,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: it didn't seem genuine, It didn't seem filled with passion.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I is Katie doing it to get back
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: at Schwartz because did she to see them like flirting
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: with each other at the bar.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I think that Katie is very and we're gonna have
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: her on the pod so we can ask her. But
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: every time I have hung.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Out with Katie, her like demeanor is very chill, Like
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: she's just chill and people want to be around her.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I know that that's not necessarily what we are seeing
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: on the show, but like we both worked like I
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: think it was a patrona event and like there were
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: hot guys like going for her like hot, hot, hot,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: every like it was and she was just like laid back.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: She didn't seem obsessed, like she didn't like flattered by it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: It was just like she was cool.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And I think if we go back in history, we
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: see that Katie has repeatedly been dicked over by people,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and that's why she has such large reactions because she's like,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: you're gaslighting me.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: But what do you think about the fact that she
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: had sex with his best friend Max and now she's
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: making out with the girl that just asked him out, Like,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: do you think she's doing these things simultaneously just to
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: get back at him or she hope.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: It's to get back at him, because she's kind of
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: laughing about it, Like it doesn't even seem malicious, like
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the conversation where they are talking about Max, and then
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: also when they're talking about Toy, they're flirting.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like so maybe it's maybe it's like healthy competition.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Do you think that we're going to see a threesome
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: before the end of the season between the three of them,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I mean we might. Joe's going to be really bummed. Well,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Joe's already bombed.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Well, La La and Joe get lunch at the hot
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: dog stand, which did you see where the hot dog
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: was poking out of the side and it looked like
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: a full dinger?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, where is that? I want to go there now?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Oh it's on Las Sienega. But like the angle, I
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: But in her confessional, Joe says she wants to be
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: welcome into the group. If she's going to be in
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: short life forever, and Lala is the ticket to that.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I was like Joe that that wasn't a great thing
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I didn't really understand that she's giving Lala alat of power.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Does that mean Lala's like the gatekeeper and no one
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: can get into the group unless Lala approves them. I
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: know this is the second time we've heard this. If
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: you don't get along with Lala, you're out.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but my guess is Lala is the only one
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: that will pretty much do whatever she has to do
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: to make a good show.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: And so they know, are you putting a dog? Are you?
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Are you all right? My dog is My dog has
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: not seen me for six days. He needs come here,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: hop up here so people can see that I have
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: a dog and I'm not rubbing like an infection or something.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: It's happening here. He's very he's very lonely. He has
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: not seen me for six and he needs a mom
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: to I was like, something's going on. Yeah, it's not
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: an infection, it's just a dog. I'm rubbing it. Okay, good.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: But there is something about Laala meeting Joe at a
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: hot dog stand that feels so ridiculous yet so right.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: And I appreciated it more than I appreciated.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: James, Alli, Cadie and Arianna at Top Golf.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I did like the hot dog stand. But you know,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: my question is, is she says she's going to be
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: in shorts life forever, Like that is a very bold statement.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Does that mean in his life forever as marriage like
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: that's her intent or just that they would be best
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: friends forever. Well, my guess is during COVID, those two
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: really like they did everything together. So I think that
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Joe because he had no other choice, right, I know,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: That's the point, like that it was it became her,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: he became her everything, and maybe at that point in time,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: she became his everything. So those feelings got a little
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: bit wrapped up and then things got a little askew.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I did like when Laala and Shina went to the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: sperm bank and Lala talks about how she's currently part
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of a broken family and she wants to make sure
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: that can't happen again. And I just think that she
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: said a lot of things that will resonate with a
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: lot of people. Yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I understand her choice. I mean, she just I
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: can't imagine the sharing custody type of situation. I mean,
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I know Shane struggled with it for years. Clearly, I
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: don't know what that's like because we have three children together,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: but we're together, so I know how difficult that can
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: be to have to deal with an ex and have
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: to do custody and trying to figure things out, and
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: especially when someone's not flexible. I can't imagine what it's
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: like to have a child that you just want to
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: go somewhere with or take somewhere or go on vacation
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: and you have to ask someone else's permission, you have
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: to work with their schedule, and.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Especially if you have no content, like if you're It
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: was a very toxic breakup, not just like okay, we're
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: no longer compatible, we're breaking up like and then having
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: to so so I get it. But then of course
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: they bring up Ariana again. Then we have the hair scene,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: which I don't know that we need to we need
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: to bring up anymore.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: It was a mistake. It's a mistake. I don't think
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: there's any way.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I Also, I've never seen somebody put bleach on somebody's
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: head and not use gloves.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: She just have her hands in there. She's just getting
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: it in there, I was like, hold on, I'm confused.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but what did you think about la Katie being
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: pissed that Laala went out to lunch with Joe.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I think Katie, I mean, I think she has to
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: get over the whole her. She clearly has hatred for Joe.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, Joe is definitely unique and she's quirky, but
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I don't think she deserves hatred from I don't think
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: that Joe appears to be on drugs. I do wish
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: she had she got doing that she got married. She is,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: I just like to say quirky. She's a little quirky.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think she has a malicious bone in her body.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I think she's so Really, you don't think she has
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: some malicious bone in her body. You don't think she
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: did her did shorts hair that color out of spite. No.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I think she thinks it looks good. I think she
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: thinks she did a great job. There is no way.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Even at singles night, I feel like she looked at
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: it and she was like shit, like she wouldn't leave it.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Alone, and it like wouldn't lay right. And okay, wait,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: did she know he was going on Singles night before
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: or after she did his hair. Oh they remember she
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: was sitting she was doing his hair, and he told
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: her about singles night. Okay, there we go. She sabotaged him.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: She's like, oh, okay, yeah, I get it now. Yeah,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: she wanted to scrow over.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: And then she goes, I want to go. I want
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: to go, And then they wore the singles bands and then.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Why did he say? Okay, though, he has to have
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: some balls. He has to if he wants boundaries with her,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: he has to draw some boundaries.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I don't really think there's anything to point out about
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: paintball other than why did the girls come if they
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: weren't going to play?
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Have you ever played paintball? That's my question.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I have played paintball. I don't need to play it again.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I mean I would if my kids wanted to go.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: But none of us like that feeling of that little.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: It hurts, you know, Yeah, you don't like being shot
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: in the face that like full throttle with a little
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: thing that stings and then leaves a Well, we don't
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: and we don't even have specialized outfits for it. So
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, you don't have a paintball outfit. I don't.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: And then we get to Joe at Short's house when
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: he gets home and they're top. Essentially they break up.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: We realize at this point they've been hooking up this
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: whole time, don't you agree?
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, I'm sure I can't imagine that
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: she made it up. I mean, and now I understand
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: why she gets so upset. She gets upset because she
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: probably just had sex with the guy the night before,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: and now he's like speed dating or dating, like yeah,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: and making out with the other.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: By the way, I think that trick that he made
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: out with at the speed dating place would be good television.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: That girl, she was a lot, Yeah, it was a lot.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: She was a lot.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: But what about how she said, like we say I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: love you to each other? And then you can tell
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: he's like in a panic state, and he's like.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I mean we may have even said I love you.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you don't even may you didn't? Maybe say
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: you either said it or you didn't, right, right, Well,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: they're clearly on two different pages. I actually felt badly
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: for her when she was crying. I felt, I don't
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: think he's the kind of guy that would purposefully use someone.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: But because she's so nice, and she's so into him.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: He's just allowing her to be used because they have sex.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: He tells her that he loves her, but then he
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: goes out on dates with other people and he's not
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: recognizing that this is mentally damaging to her.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: But I also envision like what the call would be
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that Joe made to her dad, Like, hey, dad, you
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: know the forty year old guy that I've been sleeping
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: with in the dirty apartment that's on a TV show
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: that I was just married and I was friends with
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: the wife. He told me he didn't want to be
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: with me anymore on camera, and like then I had
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: these braids in my hair and then this other girl
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: made me feel bad about.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: It, Like what did the conversation and what was it
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: going to be to her dad? Yes, remember when she
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: starts crying, she goes, she's gonna go talk to my dad. Oh,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: my dad. No, she's gonna say that we have sex.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: And he says, I love you and I made his
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: hair very pretty, and then he went on his head
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: with someone else.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Not only did he go on a speed date with
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: somebody else, he gave that person his hat. And she
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: was very concerned that it was going to be his
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: last one. You don't have more, and then he said,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I have one hundreds, hundreds, hundreds of them in storage.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, you have a storage unit and yet
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: your apartment looks like that is a storage unit of hats.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna get juicy, I think next week, Let's hope,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: because at this point I'm more excited to talk about
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the valley than i was this episode of Anna pump Roles.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: So we are going to close out for today, but
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: we will be back to talk about the valley and
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: then uh her pump Villa.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: All right, Thanks guys for listening. Thanks hmm