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GRL's Natasha Slayton on Max Martin, Manifestation & Lucky GRL Syndrome | Delulu with Ryan Lu #107 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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  That is not allowed on the show. What?
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  So you make a list of everyone you want to work with, right?
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  And then now they're starting to manifest right before your eyes.
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  I know. Did you always imagine when you
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  were making this list? Did you imagine it as a solo
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  artist or did you imagine it in a girl group?
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  It was mostly solo but like looking back I'm so glad that I
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  ended up being a girl group. Hello Besties and welcome back
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  to another episode, Lulu of Delulu with Ryan Liu.
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  We have a very exciting guest joining us today.
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  She is one of my favorite artists ever and I'm genuinely
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  so pumped that she is joining us in the Delulu studios.
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  She is a multi faceted artist. She is a performer, songwriter,
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  dancer, actor, girl, what can you not do?
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  She's also really good at directions, which we learned as
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  she was on her way here, which is very impressive, especially
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  in LA. And she is one of the original
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  members of the iconic girl group GRL, and you might recognize
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  them from their big hits such as Ugly Heart, Wild Wild Love,
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  Featuring Pitbull, and Vacation. Of course.
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  She's performed on stages all around the world and worked with
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  legendary producers such as Max Martin.
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  And now she's stepping into a new era as a solo artist,
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  holistic healer, and a lip print reader.
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  Please welcome my manifestation icon bestie Lulu Natasha Sladen.
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  Hi. Natasha, thank you for joining
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  us today. I'm so excited to talk to.
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  You. I'm so proud of you for all of
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  this and thank you so much for having me.
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  What an honor. That was such a nice intro.
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  We're gonna get into so much more of your accomplishments
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  'cause there's so much of it to get into, and I'm just excited
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  that year. I love hanging out with you.
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  I love hanging out with you too. I love.
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  Hanging out with you and I feel so comfortable and I feel good.
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  And we have our do. Lulu Bears.
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  They're so cute. On Little comfort to Lulu bears.
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  They're so cute. She named hers Lulu.
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  I did. Okay and then I guess mines
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  bright Lulu because he's he's also a boy one I guess.
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  Now I thought you were going to. Meet I was but then a girl I
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  know. But then Brett did the whole
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  thing about the the bear being a boy and I was like, you know
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  what? Yeah, we'll we'll name it after
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  Brett. So this is Brett Lulu.
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  Yeah, this is. Just Lulu, but he's a boy too,
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  OK? Well, we love both of them.
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  Well, Natasha, I like I said with your introduction there,
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  you have done so much and you're so multifaceted.
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  There's so many different sides to you.
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  So where did it all begin with you?
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  Because like I said, you're a singer, you're a songwriter,
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  you're a dancer, you're an actor, and you did child acting.
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  Too. I did.
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  I did. I acted when I was growing up.
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  I begged my parents to get into the business, actually.
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  So as a Leo and only child, as a Leo and only child, I very much
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  came out just wanting to perform.
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  Performing. Yeah.
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  So singing, dancing, acting, all the things right off the bat and
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  grew up, you know, in dance classes, singing classes, music
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  classes, all the things. And then, yeah, I begged my
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  parents to get into the business.
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  As soon as Buffy the Vampire Slayer came out.
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  I was like, this is non negotiable.
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  I have to do this right now too. Started really young, very
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  young. I felt, it's funny because I
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  felt like an old soul. Oh.
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  My gosh, you're. And and even when I was 8 years
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  old, I was like man, if I'm not successful successful before I
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  turn double digits, then I am a failure.
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  That is crazy. You're talking 10 years old.
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  I'm not as successful at 10. It was the strong anxiety that I
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  had you. Put a lot of pressure on
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  yourself from like the get go. From the get go, yeah.
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  And I'm finally just undoing a lot of that pressure and
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  learning to be more in the flow. But yeah, yeah.
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  I mean, it's a lifelong process to like move through that and
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  get over that too. Especially like starting off
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  knowing what you want so strongly and then having to
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  adapt with life and. Absolutely life.
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  Be life, Absolutely. So you started child acting and
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  I remember that you mentioned before that you started very,
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  very young and you were taken out of it.
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  And then, like you said, you begged your parents to get back
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  into. It you have such a good memory,
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  Yeah. And it's actually a really cool
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  manifestation story if you want me to tell.
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  A little bit about that. I love that.
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  To hear it guys, probably my first remembered experience with
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  extreme manifestation. So yeah, like 2 years old, my
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  parents had put me into commercial auditions.
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  They got me an agent, but they felt really bad.
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  They were never stage parents. And so I was scared.
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  I didn't know what was going on. And so I'd get all these call
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  backs, but they were like, OK, listen, she's a total ham.
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  She's made for this, but she's not comfortable.
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  We have to take her out. So that was really sweet.
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  Yeah. And so they took me out of it.
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  And then like I said, when I was like 8 years old, I got this an
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  extreme wave of undeniable passion just knowing that I had
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  to be in this business. And she begged and begged and
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  begged. Yeah, absolutely.
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  And my parents were not wanting to put me in the business, you
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  know, cuz at that time I didn't know like all of the things that
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  can happen with child actors and like all of the, you know,
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  potentially. Young It was just fun and like
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  exciting for you and you really wanted to do it.
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  Yeah, I just wanted to act. Absolutely.
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  So one day I was actually over at a friend's house and her
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  brother, her little brother was an actor.
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  And so my mom was coming to pick me up and we had a very distinct
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  name. Her name's Teddy.
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  And when she walked in the door to pick me up, her mom had been
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  on the phone with the agent of the of the little boy.
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  And she said, oh, hi, Teddy. And they were like, wait a
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  minute, Is that Natasha Slayton's mom?
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  And I don't know how they knew that because they had no idea
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  that I was there. And it was the agent that I'd
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  had when I was a little girl. So they were like, put her on
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  the phone, put her on the phone. And mind you, I had been begging
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  my parents to get back into acting.
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  And they kind of were like, we don't know, you know, you've
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  been. Out of it for so long at that
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  point. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And they remembered.
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  Absolutely. And so they were like, Oh my
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  gosh, you've got to put Natasha back and acting like we'd love
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  to have her. And so that kind of spiraled the
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  whole thing. And at the same time, what was
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  really interesting is that my dad was on ATV show called the
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  Tom Show. I don't know if that's a
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  necessary detail, but there were two there.
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  I don't even know if it's available because it was that
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  long ago, but there were two little kids on the show. 1 was
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  my age and then one was like 13. And I just wanted to be both of
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  them. And so I'd gone to the set a
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  couple of times with him and he had, I remember it was like
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  stage 42 or 43, I think 42. And he had, you know, a little
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  trailer dressing room. And I would go visit the set
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  with him and he was on a few times.
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  Fast forward to a year later, not only did I book a series,
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  regular TV show, which is crazy, but it was on the exact same
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  sound sound stage. The exact same back lot.
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  So universal. Yeah, and the exact same stage
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  you. Know what?
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  You probably visualized it when you're visiting your dad.
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  Absolutely. Yeah, and you got your own
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  parking spot. Yes, I had my own parking spot.
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  I love your memories. 10 years old.
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  It was, Yeah, which I did not need.
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  But my parents used when they would take me to set.
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  Oh, my God. And it was like this running
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  joke. And when my dad would take me to
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  set, he would run into all these people because he's a, he's a
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  comedian and actor. I did not get this role because
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  of him, but maybe a little help, you know, and.
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  There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, he like guided me on like
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  OK, you know, here's we can do it this way, we can do it that
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  way and gave me some cuz. Your dad is in the entertainment
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  industry. He was in Comedian.
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  Yes, yeah. Comedian and actor.
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  And so he would come to the set, visit me, and he would run into
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  some of his friends that were shooting other things on the
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  back lot. And they'd be like, hey, Bobby,
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  like, what are you shooting? Yeah, I'm with my daughter.
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  So really really fun times though.
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  That's incredible. And honestly, for you to have
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  your own parking space at 10 years old, I am 28 and I do not
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  have my own designated parking space on my set here.
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  So you're doing so much better than me at 10.
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  You accomplished it pressure, met everything, met like you're
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  doing it well. That's so exciting.
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  And that's when you started kind of like delving into your
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  entertainment career. Yeah.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  So being in the entertainment industry, being so young, but
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  you also had a passion for singing and performing, not just
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  acting, so you looked up to people such as to Spice Girls.
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  For sure of. Course Britney Christina like
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  you loved all the girls, you loved seeing them perform and
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  you also knew you had a talent for singing.
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  Yes, Yeah. And I grew up listening to,
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  like, Blues and Motown and just Rolling Stones and all the
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  things that my dad put me on to, my mom put me on, too.
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  And, you know, that really drove my passion.
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  Yeah. Absolutely, because Natasha is
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  an incredible performer. We actually met in 2019 prior to
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  the pan Demi Lovato was like right before it.
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  She was performing a show here in Lai did not live in LA at the
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  time. And I drove so far to go see her
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  and I saw her and you were so mind blowingly talented and you
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  were so good and it was so amazing and you gave it.
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  It was such a special experience for me.
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  So for context, Lulu besties, I'm a huge, huge, huge, huge,
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  huge Natasha Slaton fan and I've always been a huge Natasha
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  Slaton fan, of course. So me coming out to see you and
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  you being so lovely to me and I was how old was I, 2019 it?
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  Was 2020? I think because it was right
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  before the pandemic. It was right before the
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  pandemic, OK? I think 2020, like right before
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  it hit, right before I remember we talked about it, was like,
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  oh, that's it, because you're going to do more shows.
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  Yes, and I think that's how we bonded too, because as soon as
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  there was lockdown, we were texting each other like, Oh my
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  gosh, can't believe this is going on, right, Isn't it?
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  Crazy. We just saw each other and I
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  think that's what was crazy. I think that was like one of the
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  last things that happened right before everything shut down.
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  When I remember too. It's so interesting.
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  I'm so honored that you're such a fan and like for some of the
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  listeners, I'm sure you guys haven't even heard of GRL and
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  that's totally fine. Well, they're gonna they're
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  gonna hear about it right now. Besties.
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  We're about to stream after this.
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  But you're just always so nice to me.
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  You would DM me the sweetest things you would comment on my
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  post and I just felt the genuine love there.
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  And so there was an immediate connection, not just because you
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  were like love bombing, but in the in the best.
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  Thing I do do that a little. That a bad thing.
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  That's that's a good thing. Love bombing is like when you're
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  intensely like putting on a lot of love and then you like pull
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  it away. Never mind.
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  Well, you're just, you know. Yeah, give you some love.
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  I was consistently loving. Yeah, and it wasn't just because
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  of that, but I immediately felt a kindred spirit in you and just
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  like. Thank you.
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  Thank you for seeing that in me. And honestly, I was like so
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  honored. My journal entries from meeting
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  you and talking to you were always so excited.
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  And you know what? Fun fact, Lulu besties Natasha
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  was one of my first tick tock followers ever and she was.
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  Crazy, you're right. You were you were like 39 or 40
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  and I remember you were being so sweet and excited for me and
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  there's nothing happening on my tick tock at the time.
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  She was just so like she was like, Oh my God, I love your
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  videos and and I was like. I was like, I did, I do.
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  They were so good. Thank you and they were Oh my
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  gosh. And at the time it wasn't even
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  anything I'm doing now or the content I'm doing now and you
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  followed me and I was like that is so sweet because you did not
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  need to and I was just like a fan.
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  It was super sweet and honestly, you're my good luck charm
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  because literally I think I started blowing up.
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  You were blowing up on TikTok too.
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  And then I. Started blowing video.
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  Oh, it went, it went. It went it went it.
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  Went and that's because of you too, because I was like I give
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  up. I don't even want to be posting
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  on TikTok, but I needed to because we were doing the GRL
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  reunion. I think that's right.
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  Oh, wait. Yeah, it was heading there.
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  You guys were about to start it because then it started in 2021,
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  but you were gaining a lot of. Traction.
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  You know you know more than I do about my life.
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  Go ahead. We're.
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  Going to get into all of it. So she was posting on TikTok in
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  2020, as most of us were, and she was posting incredible dance
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  videos that she was doing and they were going massively viral.
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  I was, I remember sitting in my parents house on my TikTok
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  refreshing your page and I would text you so excited and you'd be
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  like Natasha, you want up another 2000?
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  I'm like, Oh my God, you're getting there.
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  I was like, you're going to hit 25 K by today.
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  Like I was so excited, excited for you and it was it was really
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  exciting. Genuinely, I was like, yes, it's
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  happening, Everything is working and then you were getting ready
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  for I don't think I think I don't know if discussion started
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  at this point. So this is what we're going to
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  get into the T Lulu with URL later.
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  But yeah, GRL did have another manifestation of mine.
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  But GRL did start another reunion in 2021.
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  And actually I want to take credit for that when I'm going
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  to because I had a manifestation journal, my little Navy blue
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  journal, the little gold stars that I talked about in episode
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  1. But in that journal, I just
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  started seriously manifestation, sitting down and manifesting.
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  And it was like my 4th or fifth one I wrote in there.
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  And I was like, I am so thankful GRL reunited and they're like
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  performing again, releasing music.
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  And I really, really wanted it. And this was at the end of 2020.
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  I. Remember you telling me about
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  that too? Yes.
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  Yeah. And then they, they had a
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  formative reunion discussion. It it half manifested and it's
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  still manifesting by the way. Well, you know what's
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  interesting about that is because I think we Co manifested
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  it and I definitely give you a lot of credit for this because
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  you were talking about it and talking about it and I'm like,
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  oh, you're right. Like I want this too.
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  Like this is amazing. And your energy, of course, like
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  when you put something out there, it happens like.
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  They're all reuniting y'all. You heard it here first.
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  It happens and at the same time I had done some work with this,
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  this master healer that I do a lot of work with.
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  Right. And I was telling her how I kind
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  of just wanted to jump timelines.
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  I was like, man, I, you know, until she kind of helped me go
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  from point A to point Z. And I don't know that I actually
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  thought it was going to be GRL related, but I remember I'd kind
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  of thought about GRL that week. And then we had our session.
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  And then all of a sudden, it just so happened that Paula, one
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  of the girls in the girl group, for anyone that doesn't know,
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  was on a hike randomly with our day-to-day manager who had
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  worked with us in the past. And I was like, what?
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  That's so random. And she was like, and yeah, we
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  talked about potentially doing a GRL reunion and I'm like, what?
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  So from there it really like spiraled super quickly.
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  Well, you know what? That's The funny thing about the
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  second reunion of GRL and how that manifested is that wasn't
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  even the first time that you manifested GRL because before
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  GRL even came into existence, Natasha literally created.
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  So I will give Natasha the credit for this one.
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  Natasha originated GRL. We'll get into it, but I want to
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  talk about your journey in GRL. So Bestie Lulu's, if you don't
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  know about GRL, please look them up.
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  They're so incredible. I love their music.
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  I love them. They are true, like best friends
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  and sisters and everything a girl group should be and they
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  were so iconic. They're still so iconic.
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  Look up ugly Heart, the music video, it just passed 100
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  million views recently. Actually not even recently.
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  It was like 3 years ago. It's way past that now.
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  But yeah guys, look it up. But with GRL, Natasha is one of
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  the original members of GRL and I wanted to talk to you about
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  like how you got into GRL, how GRL became a thing.
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  I know it started with an iteration of The Pussycat Dolls
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  2 point O and that's what you were initially slated to do.
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  Yeah, so, OK, I love that. You also mentioned earlier how I
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  was really inspired by like the Spice Girls and Pussycat Dolls
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  and Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears.
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  And it's so interesting because these these groups and people
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  were definitely huge influences on me growing up.
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  And I always wanted to be like a powerhouse solo artist, but also
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  love the idea of being in a girl group, especially those
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  specifically. And I don't know really where to
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  start this story because it can get a little bit long winded.
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  And I want to give you like an exciting version.
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  Well, you know what? You were in the first original
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  lineup of the next version of Pussycat Dolls.
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  I was so one of the members. You see how that came up?
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  Oh, yeah. You want to tell it?
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  Yeah, I want you to tell that I would love.
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  For you to. Tell OK, let me try then you
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  chime in at any moment because you do really know a lot of
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  details. So one of my ex's was a
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  professional dancer and he was friends with.
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  Laurens boyfriend. Yeah, you.
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  Already know who was also a professional dancer?
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  Laurens. Another girl in GRO.
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  I love it, yes. Say it in unison with me.
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  It's like we're harmonizing. My God, it's like weird GRO cuz
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  you guys did that in your interviews you.
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  Guys, that's true. You are an honor.
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  You guys, if you're not watching the video version of the
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  podcast, I am wearing a shirt that says I'm with the band cuz
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  I am with the band. I am an honorary GRO, right?
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  Now you are actually. I'm a Gerald always, but yes,
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  always right now. But go ahead.
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  So yeah, so he knew Kenny, who's Lawrence husband now actually
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  crazy. And so that's kind of How I Met
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  her and she just found out. I think through them hanging out
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  together, our boyfriends that I sang and I danced.
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  And so back then she, you know, we didn't have Instagram, which
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  is so crazy. It was not.
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  That long ago, y'all. When we started GRL, we did, but
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  like, at this point I don't think we did.
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  So she was searching, yeah, she was searching me on like YouTube
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  and kind of found a few of my videos.
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  And she told Robin she was like, Oh my God, you've got to see
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  this girl. Like, she's so good.
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  And I didn't know this was happening.
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  And so she had me meet Robin a few times.
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  And I actually did go to one of the Pussycat Doll auditions and.
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  Robin is the founder, the creator of The Pussycat Dolls,
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  and she also is the and founder of GRL.
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  Yes, yes. So this is where they're meeting
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  for the first time. Go ahead.
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  I love you chiming in. This is so good.
• 16:19
  Can you always help me tell my story?
• 16:20
  Oh my God, I want to. I need it.
• 16:23
  And yeah, so I, I ended up meeting with her and I think,
• 16:27
  you know, there were a couple versions of that.
• 16:29
  And and for whatever reason, like they'd had different
• 16:31
  versions of PCD 2 point O, like they did a commercial for the
• 16:34
  Super Bowl and all these things and I wasn't a part of those
• 16:36
  things. And the girls kept shifting out
• 16:39
  to the lineup. Kept shifting out for the
• 16:41
  pisscat. Dolls 2.0 so at this time guys
• 16:43
  it was late 2010's The Pussycat Dolls had disbanded and Robin
• 16:47
  was working on a 2.0 version of the girl group and this is where
• 16:51
  Natasha was coming in Paula was actually and Lauren we're.
• 16:54
  Paula and Lauren we're. Part of their The Pussycat Doll
• 16:56
  2.0 lineup, which are also two other members of GRL.
• 17:00
  Go ahead. And I love you so much.
• 17:03
  And what's also interesting about this is I had been a fan
• 17:06
  of Paula's from So You Think You Could Dance.
• 17:07
  And I was like, I want to be best friends with this girl.
• 17:09
  I didn't know why. And then with Lauren, I had
• 17:13
  like, seen her in a hallway at Millennium Dance Complex and was
• 17:16
  like, who is this girl? Like, so stunning.
• 17:18
  And like, I just, I just want to be friends with her, not just
• 17:20
  because she's pretty, but like, you know, I just felt this
• 17:22
  connection. To her.
• 17:24
  I was drawn to her and same thing with Paula.
• 17:26
  And so anyways, I got this call or this text in the middle of
• 17:30
  the night that I'd like woken up to and Lauren was reaching out
• 17:32
  saying, hey, would you want to meet with Robin Anton, who's the
• 17:35
  creator of the Biscayet dolls, which I was a huge fan of.
• 17:38
  And Larry Rudolph, who had started Britney Spears's career
• 17:41
  and managed her throughout like her entire career.
• 17:44
  And Ron Fair, who had kick started Christina Aguilera's
• 17:47
  career. And so these were mega people
• 17:49
  that I'd been wanting to work with and had looked up to since
• 17:52
  I was a little girl. Yeah.
• 17:54
  And when I got that text, I would like big names.
• 17:57
  Yes. I would like to meet with them.
• 17:58
  What are you talking about? And so even though I was like,
• 18:00
  so nervous and overcome with all these emotions, I was like, what
• 18:03
  is happening right now? Holy moly.
• 18:05
  Like, this is just an undeniable.
• 18:06
  Yeah. So of course I said yes.
• 18:08
  And. And yeah, I went in to sing for
• 18:11
  all of them. I don't think Larry was there
• 18:12
  the first time. And Robin was a little bit,
• 18:15
  she's like, OK, she's an amazing singer.
• 18:16
  She's an amazing dancer. But like, we don't know her that
• 18:19
  well. Like, you know, so they, they
• 18:20
  kind of put me a little bit through the ringer at first, but
• 18:23
  I knew that I was in. Oh, yeah.
• 18:25
  For some reason I like just know.
• 18:26
  That's also manifestation, just knowing and also believing in
• 18:29
  owning it. Yeah.
• 18:30
  And by the way, you manifested that too, because you mentioned
• 18:32
  before to me when we would hang out that you made a list when
• 18:36
  you were younger of everyone you wanted to work with.
• 18:38
  And this list literally manifested beat by beat, person
• 18:41
  by person. Yeah.
• 18:42
  When you joined GRL isn't. That crazy and then you know,
• 18:46
  it's also interesting is before Pussycat Dolls 2 point O was
• 18:50
  happening, Robin had ATV show called Girlicious.
• 18:53
  And so one of the girls, Natalie in that group, I had been
• 18:56
  obsessed with her, like so obsessed and also was really
• 18:59
  drawn to her and want to be friends.
• 19:00
  And so she was actually in after I joined.
• 19:03
  Then Natalie joined PCD 2 point O.
• 19:05
  She didn't end up doing GRL with us, but she was part of that.
• 19:08
  So that was another crazy manifestation.
• 19:10
  And like, as an only child, I had so much time to Daydream.
• 19:15
  So my favorite part about that is like, I've always been a
• 19:18
  little bit delulu. Oh, period.
• 19:20
  Yeah, you're in the right show. Always been a little bit delulu
• 19:24
  to the point of like, I just love to Daydream and fantasize
• 19:28
  about things that I want to have happen.
• 19:29
  And even if I don't know that they will or how they will,
• 19:32
  like, it's still fun to imagine those things.
• 19:37
  And so back then, before I even realized fully what I was doing,
• 19:40
  I think at that point, like I kind of really got into like
• 19:43
  love, attraction and the secret and everything when I was like
• 19:46
  18. So it was working and it was
• 19:47
  working by this point, I kind of knew.
• 19:49
  But even before that, I'd been imagining like, PCD and Spice
• 19:52
  Girls and Christina and Britney and all these things.
• 19:54
  So you make a list of everyone you want to work with, right?
• 19:56
  And then now they're starting to manifest right before your eyes.
• 19:58
  Crazy, I know. Did you always imagine when you
• 20:01
  were making this list? Did you imagine it as a solo
• 20:03
  artist or did you imagine it in a girl group?
• 20:05
  That's a really good question and I think I it was mostly
• 20:09
  solo, but like looking back, I'm so glad that I ended up being a
• 20:13
  girl group because Lauren had been in a girl group before GRL.
• 20:17
  And like she said it best, when you're by yourself, it's super
• 20:20
  lonely. And there's, you know, there's
• 20:23
  pros and cons to working in a group as far as and working
• 20:26
  solo, but I think there's so many more pros when you're in a
• 20:29
  group. Yeah.
• 20:30
  And then you have that like genuine camaraderie.
• 20:32
  Absolutely. You have each other clothes you
• 20:34
  can help each other get. Ready.
• 20:35
  And then you have each other through everything you're
• 20:37
  experiencing all together, and that's beautiful.
• 20:38
  And what I always say I love about GRL is that you guys not
• 20:42
  only looked like you loved each other, but you really did.
• 20:44
  You're really best friends. It was friends.
• 20:46
  The chemistry is unmatched to this day.
• 20:49
  I'm not seeing that chemistry in girl groups now.
• 20:52
  I mean, I could be wrong. Also I don't really pay
• 20:54
  attention to girl groups right now but the chemistry was
• 20:56
  insane. Thank you.
• 20:57
  I think that's why everyone, kind of not everyone, but I
• 21:00
  think that's why there were so many different versions of the
• 21:02
  group, because the universe was really saying like, OK, who can
• 21:05
  we put together to really make this the perfect, perfect?
• 21:08
  It was the perfect one too, and I feel like it needed to go
• 21:11
  through all those lives and iterations and lineups because
• 21:14
  then where we ended up, which was Natasha Slate in Lauren
• 21:17
  Bennett, Paula Van Open and Melina Estrada and Simone
• 21:20
  Battle, the original 5 girls of GRL.
• 21:23
  It was so magic like that cannot even be recreated, which is
• 21:27
  insane. You guys dominated.
• 21:29
  Oh my gosh. And we were lucky to experience
• 21:31
  it. I was lucky to experience it
• 21:32
  first hand. I was such such a fan.
• 21:34
  Still a fan obviously. So I wanted to ask you about
• 21:36
  this list that you had. Can you name some of the names
• 21:39
  that that were on that list that you ended up working with?
• 21:41
  Yeah, well, there was Robin, Anton, Robin Rudolph, Ron Fair,
• 21:46
  Natalie, Lauren, Paula. Yeah, for sure.
• 21:48
  I didn't know Emmeline or Simone or they definitely would have
• 21:50
  been on the list as well. Yeah, then.
• 21:54
  Max Martin. Did I not say Max no Max Martin
• 21:56
  Max 100% Max? Martin, you've been wanting to
• 21:58
  work with Max. Martin Yeah, All the people we
• 22:01
  worked with were just incredible.
• 22:02
  And then of course there's Pitbull.
• 22:03
  Pitbull was like, especially when he first had come out when
• 22:08
  I was like 16 or 17, like I had all of his original first
• 22:12
  albums. How is it being on Wild Wild
• 22:14
  Love with Pitbull which was an international hit but also hit
• 22:18
  here in the US GRL featured on Wild Wild Love.
• 22:22
  It was amazing, yeah. And you guys went to the Playboy
• 22:24
  Mansion. That was another manifestation.
• 22:26
  Another manifestation, yeah. I don't know what it was, but
• 22:28
  you always had an obsession with Playboy, especially like back in
• 22:31
  the 90s where there was just like Pamela Anderson and all
• 22:34
  those things. I also loved Girls Next Door,
• 22:36
  but yeah, at that time I really had an obsession with like the
• 22:40
  Playboy Mansion and Playboy. I know there's so many things
• 22:43
  that could be said about that now, but like, yeah, it was.
• 22:45
  It was. I mean, it's such an iconic part
• 22:47
  of pop culture. Totally.
• 22:48
  So to be able to film there was like.
• 22:49
  Film there would be a part of it that's so crazy do you ever
• 22:52
  reflect on everything that you manifested just leading into GRL
• 22:55
  like and you think about and like I really.
• 22:57
  Manifested that, yeah, absolutely.
• 22:59
  And it's been something that I think I thought about a lot more
• 23:04
  back then. And it has just become part of
• 23:06
  my story to the point where now I can really believe what's
• 23:09
  possible manifestationally, Everything but that.
• 23:11
  Yeah, absolutely. But then at the same time, my
• 23:13
  idea of manifestation has also shifted a lot because now I'm
• 23:16
  more like, OK, let me follow Spirit, let me follow God.
• 23:19
  Interesting. And let's see where I get LED.
• 23:21
  Because if I'm just listening to my ego wants and needs, then,
• 23:25
  you know, that's my ego leading the show, right?
• 23:27
  And it's not really God leading. And so now it's I try you're.
• 23:31
  Going. With the flow less resistance
• 23:33
  and also less hold on what the outcome might be because I know
• 23:39
  that God has or universe spirit whatever your terminology is of.
• 23:44
  Course. But for me I just say God and
• 23:48
  Spirit. Me too.
• 23:49
  I actually also say the universe.
• 23:51
  Yeah, what's the same to me? God and universe are the same to
• 23:55
  me. It's 100%.
• 23:57
  And so yeah. So now by me just following what
• 24:01
  that intuition says, yeah, then I'm also able to to have even
• 24:06
  better things come to me and also things that aren't just
• 24:08
  going to feed me, but hopefully also be able to give back to
• 24:11
  others. And being able to share that is
• 24:12
  so incredible. Even you telling the story is
• 24:14
  very inspiring. And I'm the bestie Lulus are
• 24:16
  going to feel really inspired by it.
• 24:18
  But I want to talk about that manifestation journey.
• 24:20
  OK, so you started with manifesting things from the ego,
• 24:23
  from things that you wanted. And obviously being younger,
• 24:26
  that's natural. We all, we're all, we're excited
• 24:28
  about things, we want things and we want to manifest those
• 24:31
  things, which is great. I'm I feel like I'm still there.
• 24:33
  But you said you shifted in your manifestation journey to now
• 24:36
  letting it just happen and you're being more open to
• 24:39
  receiving and whatever forms those manifestations can happen
• 24:41
  for you. So how did that intentional
• 24:44
  shift come about? I love that question.
• 24:46
  I mean, yeah, from the time I was really little, I've always
• 24:50
  believed in magic. And, you know, we were talking
• 24:52
  about being Tululu and being able to like fantasize and
• 24:54
  Daydream and, and those things. I think we're such a part of my
• 24:59
  story from a super young age. And then by the time I
• 25:03
  discovered like the secret and the Law of Attraction and Esther
• 25:06
  and Jerry Hicks and all those things, I was really able to
• 25:09
  take that on board and kind of then reflect on all the things
• 25:12
  that I had manifested thus far and realized, oh, wow, Like I
• 25:15
  actually had so much more. I don't know if power's the
• 25:20
  right word, but power in this that I realized you.
• 25:23
  Were powerful and you're creating that.
• 25:24
  And it gave me even more of a sense of like, wow, OK, I hold
• 25:28
  the keys here. And then there's a lot of
• 25:30
  learning that went on there. And I think just through all of
• 25:34
  the honestly hard situations I've been through all the
• 25:38
  challenges, all the losses, that's and, and the work I've
• 25:41
  done with some of the master healers that I've worked with.
• 25:44
  Right. That's really helped me to just
• 25:47
  keep growing with my manifestation journey.
• 25:49
  So that's how it's taken a turn from being like, oh, let me
• 25:52
  manifest this to like, OK, let me, let me yes, manifest, but
• 25:57
  also welcome in the. Yeah, exactly.
• 25:59
  So it's just like essentially life happens and you know, you
• 26:03
  had an ego death. Over and over, every single day,
• 26:07
  with every single trigger. But you were here and now you're
• 26:10
  so open to receiving better things, like you said.
• 26:13
  And I feel like better things are coming to you.
• 26:14
  Like we're celebrating so many wins for you.
• 26:17
  And I feel like every time I talk to you, we're excited about
• 26:19
  things and things that are happening.
• 26:20
  I feel like where I am in my manifestation journey, I'm still
• 26:22
  coming from a place of ego, but I'm not even that young.
• 26:25
  But I feel like I'm just in a place where thank you.
• 26:27
  Not not really thank you, but I feel like I'm in a place where I
• 26:32
  still am trying to manifest. Like I don't know, I'm very
• 26:34
  career oriented oriented, so I feel like a lot of things I
• 26:37
  manifest or career related and I find it to be successful.
• 26:40
  But you know, you actually had this quote that you said and I
• 26:44
  want to talk to you about and get your advice Lulu on it.
• 26:46
  But you've said that if you can go back, one thing that you
• 26:50
  would do is be more present in the moment and you know, really
• 26:54
  enjoy the journey more. That's something I feel like I'm
• 26:56
  struggling with. I even journaled about it last
• 26:57
  night when I was getting ready for this with you because I was
• 27:00
  doing my research, of course. And I was like, I'm not present
• 27:04
  in the moment because this is like for me doing the show, it's
• 27:06
  just, it's just the beginning for us besties.
• 27:08
  But doing the show is a dream come true for me.
• 27:11
  But I'm so incredibly stressed. I feel like I have so much
• 27:14
  pressure for the success of the show and I work so hard on it
• 27:17
  that I just feel like it's non-stop.
• 27:18
  I never sleep so I'm not enjoying it.
• 27:21
  And I even when I tried forcing myself to enjoy it last night in
• 27:23
  my journal entry, I was like, I'm enjoying this.
• 27:25
  And I was like, why are you journaling right now?
• 27:27
  You have a show tomorrow morning and you need to go live and you
• 27:30
  need to promote the show and you didn't answer emails and all.
• 27:32
  Those things that work is actually what needs to take
• 27:35
  precedence. We need to still our minds
• 27:37
  before we do the things. So there's always going to be an
• 27:39
  element of ego because we're humans having a human
• 27:42
  experience. So there is that natural
• 27:43
  duality. So getting rid of the ego
• 27:45
  completely is not actually the goal, of course, but also, you
• 27:50
  know, that stillness and that like, let me get present 1st and
• 27:54
  then everything else can get done because you can get done
• 27:58
  100 more things. This is just a random number,
• 28:00
  but you know, 100 more things than you could get done if you
• 28:03
  didn't get with yourself 1st. And I mean, it takes a lot less
• 28:07
  energy, a lot less effort. And you know, when things just
• 28:09
  flow OK, or like you kind of just let go and all of a sudden,
• 28:12
  oh, I have the answer to this, right?
• 28:13
  Or oh, wait, this just happened. So there is effort and action
• 28:16
  that needs to take place when we're doing certain things.
• 28:19
  And of course, during stressful situations, it's way harder to
• 28:21
  get present and to enjoy, but that's where the work is.
• 28:24
  And the more that we can get present, the more that we can,
• 28:28
  you know, be here and try to enjoy and relax, the better
• 28:32
  everything works out. And we just have to continuously
• 28:34
  prove that to ourselves. And it's funny because even
• 28:36
  today, like I was coming here, I planned to be early.
• 28:39
  I was 15 minutes late. So sorry.
• 28:41
  I love you. You're.
• 28:42
  You're never late for me, don't worry.
• 28:44
  There was like, there were three construction zones I had to go
• 28:47
  through and my, my apartment building maintenance decided to
• 28:51
  come like right as I was leaving and I'm like, Oh my gosh.
• 28:54
  And so I got tested. And so I'm like, Nope, you know
• 28:56
  what? I can't let myself get stressed
• 28:57
  because then that energy is going to go into the podcast.
• 29:00
  And so I was being tested like, Natasha, even now, can you
• 29:03
  trust? Can you chill?
• 29:04
  And I was like and. Everything is fine, like you got
• 29:08
  here and it was fine. Everything was chill, like
• 29:09
  honestly no rushy washy really. But it like you know it takes.
• 29:13
  Yeah, there could be challenges. Those things that have to like
• 29:16
  you have to experience and then you have to kind of set your ego
• 29:19
  down and just be like, OK. It's a lot of ego challenges
• 29:23
  that get you to the point of not only like recognizing,
• 29:25
  realizing, reflecting and healing, but then humbling you.
• 29:29
  100% and everyday. And This is why it's so
• 29:32
  important for us to stay grounded and like mindful and
• 29:35
  grateful and being present. So I love that you said that.
• 29:38
  Do you feel like when you were in GRL, Right.
• 29:40
  It's so much what's happening. Like I'm out here saying, oh,
• 29:43
  this shows so much work, which it is, by the way.
• 29:45
  But you were, you were international pop star, you were
• 29:49
  travelling the world, you were performing everywhere.
• 29:51
  You would get up so much earlier than me.
• 29:54
  I woke up at 8:00 AM today and I was really bitching about that.
• 29:57
  But you would, I mean you would get up at 2:00 AM.
• 29:59
  Sometime to get. Your makeup done before
• 30:01
  performing on Good Morning America, right?
• 30:03
  It's always different. The scheduling was always
• 30:05
  different. There were definitely days where
• 30:06
  I woke up at like 11 or 12, so trust me.
• 30:09
  Claiming, claiming, claiming, claiming.
• 30:10
  I'm not gonna experience that for a while, y'all.
• 30:12
  So I hope you love the show. Please rate it five stars.
• 30:15
  Rate it five stars. So, yeah, there were, there was
• 30:18
  so much going on and there was so much happening so quickly
• 30:20
  that even with my manifestations rolling out like piece by piece
• 30:24
  and like Bing Bing boom, it was still really hard to, you know,
• 30:28
  if you're sleep deprived or if you're stressed or if you're
• 30:30
  worried about something or, you know, there was so much
• 30:33
  happening so fast that it was very difficult to be present and
• 30:36
  to enjoy and like it was. Always the next thing.
• 30:38
  Absolutely and I remember, you know, logically I understood I
• 30:41
  need to be having fun. These are my dreams like this is
• 30:43
  so important. But if you like aren't there
• 30:47
  emotionally or energetically, like I don't know how to explain
• 30:51
  it but like you can understand something logically and still
• 30:53
  not be able to maybe show up in the exact way.
• 30:56
  We're human, right? Like we're going to really
• 30:58
  embrace the emotions that we're feeling in the moment.
• 30:59
  And if you're stressed, that takes over.
• 31:01
  Absolutely. And it's a stressful situation.
• 31:03
  Like you said, you're living your dreams.
• 31:05
  You want to be grateful for it. But at the same time, it's just
• 31:06
  like it's still very real and valid that you have a lot of
• 31:09
  things you need to get done. Yeah, there are marks you need
• 31:11
  to hit. Yeah, there's pressure that
• 31:13
  you're under, right? And so many people like, you
• 31:15
  know, have an opinion, thinking about every little thing you're
• 31:17
  doing. And you're like, even the things
• 31:18
  that weren't stressing you out before, and now all of a sudden
• 31:20
  they're stressing you. Out, of course.
• 31:22
  And then you have people that you're working with who are
• 31:23
  telling you what to do, what to say, where to be.
• 31:26
  And I remember Robin, during one rehearsal, she looked at me, and
• 31:31
  she could probably tell that I was a little bit off or maybe
• 31:35
  taking myself too seriously or something because I always took
• 31:37
  myself so seriously. As you should.
• 31:38
  I do, too. Yeah.
• 31:39
  Always hard working, always serious.
• 31:41
  And yeah, that's very important. But then also, you know, having
• 31:43
  an element of fun can make that even more.
• 31:45
  Whatever you're doing can make it even more effective.
• 31:47
  But she had looked at me, and she was like, you know, you're
• 31:49
  25 and you're going to blink and you're going to be 35.
• 31:53
  And the interesting thing is I knew she was right.
• 31:57
  But when you're 25, it feels like the time from being 15 to
• 32:02
  25, which is the same kind of 10 year jump is, is actually a
• 32:05
  lifetime. But let me tell you, I blinked
• 32:09
  and now I'm, you know, Oh. My.
• 32:13
  Gosh, I don't, but. Now I'm scared of bling because
• 32:15
  I I want to really enjoy this and like, enjoy doing this.
• 32:19
  Obviously yours is so much more pressure.
• 32:21
  No, no, no. I mean, we all have the, you
• 32:23
  know, our own pressures and our own versions of things.
• 32:25
  And so I think if there's anything that I could tell my
• 32:28
  younger self, it would be, you know, you're going to be OK,
• 32:31
  just trust, like know that more is taken care of than you than
• 32:36
  you think. And, and I did believe that, but
• 32:38
  it was also like this inability to let go into that because it
• 32:41
  was like I wasn't quite sure. And you know what, being young,
• 32:45
  it's like that ego is a daily wrestle.
• 32:48
  It really is a daily wrestle. I mean, even now, yes, I still
• 32:51
  think I'm young, but you know, it's.
• 32:52
  Fine, I mean you already on it so I don't even know why we
• 32:54
  acting like you're not. But honestly I just received
• 32:56
  that. Everything is just that.
• 32:57
  I literally just absorbed and I was like, wait, that was so
• 32:59
  healing and good for me. And it's like it's something I
• 33:01
  needed to hear right now just because we're, we're really in
• 33:03
  the thick of production here and it's it's a lot.
• 33:06
  We just launched the show. By the time this episode comes
• 33:09
  out, we'll be a couple episodes in, but we just launched the
• 33:11
  show as if where we're filming and it's been a lot of press
• 33:14
  press. But it's, it's really reassuring
• 33:16
  to know that not only did you do it so well for yourself with
• 33:19
  everything that you were doing in GRL, but to know that coming
• 33:23
  out of it, you're all right, you're feeling good, you're
• 33:26
  peaceful, you're grounded. That's also really reassuring
• 33:28
  and healing too. Thank you.
• 33:30
  It did all manifest quickly. It wasn't just that when you
• 33:33
  were in GRL, it was also getting into GRL because you mentioned
• 33:37
  that it started with that text with Lauren and then now you
• 33:40
  meet with Robin Anton, and now you're meeting with Ron Fair.
• 33:42
  And now you're suddenly getting put into the group and then
• 33:45
  everything just takes off from there.
• 33:46
  It's it's quick. Your life entirely changed.
• 33:50
  That's crazy. And then do you, do you even
• 33:52
  think about how quick that was when that was happening or it
• 33:54
  was just, it was just like, OK, next thing, next thing.
• 33:57
  Honestly, well, you know, what I do think about actually is I
• 33:59
  think about the way that I felt before because I did have those
• 34:04
  doubts where it's like, OK, I'm allowing myself to be delulu to
• 34:07
  a certain point, but like, what if this never happens?
• 34:10
  And back then, like especially when I was growing up, you know,
• 34:14
  Brittany, she popped off at like 16 years old.
• 34:16
  So by the time I joined PCD 2 point O before it was GRLI was
• 34:21
  23. So that was terrifying to think,
• 34:24
  oh shoot, my career is over. You know what I mean?
• 34:27
  Like my window's gone. And now it's very different, you
• 34:29
  know, thank gosh. Like we've grown so much as a
• 34:31
  society and with social media and it's amazing.
• 34:34
  But back then like so. Funny to say all in your mid 20s
• 34:38
  though when GRL. Formed.
• 34:39
  I was the oldest and I was used to being the youngest, which is
• 34:42
  so interesting. And you're also used to being an
• 34:43
  only child. And of course, you're a Leo.
• 34:46
  So now we're putting in four other girls that we have to
• 34:48
  share. You got four sisters out of
• 34:51
  nowhere and you adapted, though. You guys really, really, really
• 34:53
  loved each other. And got along and.
• 34:55
  Also beautiful and you know what, one of the things that you
• 34:57
  manifested, you worked with the legendary producer Max Martin,
• 35:01
  who was behind GRL Deep Cut. Show me what you got.
• 35:04
  Super iconic Bang Bang, maybe one More time, Teenage Dream,
• 35:08
  California girls, we can go on. But.
• 35:10
  Taylor Swift, Ariana Taylor Swift Shake off.
• 35:13
  Water under the bridge. Yeah, exactly.
• 35:15
  Oh, my God. I can rattle it off, but you
• 35:17
  worked with legendary producer Max Martin, and he is
• 35:20
  incredible. He's been behind so many hits,
• 35:23
  and he's told you in the booth. Do you want to tell this?
• 35:26
  You can tell it cause like, listen, it's one of the most
• 35:28
  special moments that I had, but I don't.
• 35:31
  I don't like sounding like I'm bragging, but it is.
• 35:32
  Let me brag for you, you have a you have a lot that I could flex
• 35:35
  for you and I'm going to Max Martin.
• 35:37
  This is a quote, direct quote y'all.
• 35:40
  Natasha was in the booth recording for GRL and then he
• 35:44
  stopped the recording so he can give her feedback and he told
• 35:48
  her, you make me want to come to work.
• 35:50
  How validating is that? It just, it just made my soul
• 35:56
  very happy. I felt like all the work that I
• 35:58
  put in, Oh no, wow, I'm getting emotional, no.
• 36:02
  You deserve. It no, I really felt like it was
• 36:05
  just like all the work that I'd put in for so long.
• 36:07
  It was really being seen and appreciated.
• 36:10
  And he was someone that I'd wanted to work with for so long
• 36:13
  and of course, really respect him.
• 36:15
  And all the people we worked with were so special.
• 36:19
  We got to work with a lot of amazing people.
• 36:21
  And having him say that was like, my gosh.
• 36:24
  And you know, Legend is like for me.
• 36:25
  And he was so humble too, like the most kind man, so humble, so
• 36:30
  talented, and it was really special.
• 36:32
  For him to recognize that in you, that's incredible.
• 36:35
  And he's also said more things, too.
• 36:37
  He's also said that you're a mix of Christina and Brittany, which
• 36:40
  special, very special. And honestly, he's he.
• 36:44
  He has an eye for legends and stars and that's incredible to
• 36:48
  hear. Like that's incredibly
• 36:49
  validating. And to have music with him and
• 36:52
  working with him. It was awesome.
• 36:53
  And he had so much love for the entire group and all of us as
• 36:55
  individuals. And, you know, he really was so
• 36:59
  great at helping us showcase each of our talents and each of
• 37:02
  our strong suits. And yeah.
• 37:04
  It was so incredible and he's he's amazing.
• 37:06
  And you worked with other legendary producers such as like
• 37:08
  Circuit and J Cash? J Cash, Doctor Luke, Yeah.
• 37:13
  Yeah, it was the best pop music ever.
• 37:15
  Peak pop music, honestly. We need more, but we'll get into
• 37:19
  that. Well, congratulations on Max
• 37:21
  Marin. And you really, really did
• 37:23
  manifest that because you've said that you've been wanting to
• 37:25
  work with him. Well, yeah, I mean, ever since
• 37:27
  I'd heard Brittany's baby one more time when I was like 9.
• 37:30
  There you go. And then Fast forward, you're in
• 37:32
  the booth with him. Insane, yeah, that I did not
• 37:35
  process in live time. Oh my gosh, crazy.
• 37:38
  And you manifested that? Absolutely.
• 37:40
  For sure. Absolutely manifested that.
• 37:42
  So when you were in GRL, was there a moment that you
• 37:44
  recognize that you were like, this is bigger than us, bigger
• 37:48
  than just us girls? Yeah, I mean, I can't pinpoint
• 37:53
  exactly when that would have been everything.
• 37:55
  Was fast. Because yeah, I was so fast and
• 37:57
  everything was happening so quickly.
• 37:59
  But honestly, I think pretty much from the get go, like as
• 38:03
  soon as we as soon as we started recording and and just working
• 38:10
  together, you could feel the magic and it was like, oh, there
• 38:12
  it goes. That's incredible.
• 38:14
  And then of course, you know, there's so much that goes into
• 38:16
  it. There's, we really had to get
• 38:17
  like lightning in a bottle to become the successful group.
• 38:20
  There's so many groups that, you know, try to make it and so many
• 38:23
  artists. And so we got really, really,
• 38:25
  really lucky. But it was a long time in the
• 38:26
  making. So as fast as it happened, there
• 38:28
  was so much work behind the scenes that had to happen.
• 38:31
  So and and so much work that we all put into ourselves like
• 38:34
  before we even met each other or come onto the project so.
• 38:37
  Right. And then meeting each other and
• 38:38
  making sure you get along. Yeah.
• 38:40
  And then working with the team that you worked with, because
• 38:42
  you guys were under Robin Anton, Doctor Luke's label, Kemosabe,
• 38:47
  Kemosabe, Dr. Luke's label, working with Larry Rudolph,
• 38:51
  managing the group as well. Like powerhouse names in the
• 38:55
  music industry signed to, was it RC and Sony as well?
• 38:58
  Yeah, RC. And Sony with the umbrella
• 39:00
  labels. Massive, massive, massive
• 39:02
  massive names, massive labels and these were all backing GRL
• 39:06
  like it was it was the. Perfect story about really wild.
• 39:09
  That's crazy. And the experience in GRL was
• 39:12
  like something that you reflect on and you're like, as quick as
• 39:15
  it was, like you said, it was life changing in every way.
• 39:18
  Definitely, definitely, but also just felt like it was meant to
• 39:21
  be. Absolutely, and it was such a
• 39:23
  great part of the early 20 tens to when everything was coming
• 39:27
  out and the GRLEP is one of my favorite projects ever and my
• 39:31
  gosh, it needs more love besties.
• 39:33
  But it's really, really crazy that it's like not only have you
• 39:36
  been were able to manifest all of that, but then you start
• 39:40
  moving into other things that you've been trying to manifest
• 39:42
  with your life. Now you're performing in bigger
• 39:43
  stages, right? You're performing in front of
• 39:46
  massive audiences and you have this giant platform.
• 39:49
  Do you recall any performances that are your favorite when
• 39:51
  you're a part of DRO? OK, so our first big one, if my
• 39:55
  memory serves me correctly, was iTunes Southwest.
• 39:58
  That's my favorite 1 for me. All that is.
• 40:00
  It's definitely Austin, right? One of my favorite ones.
• 40:03
  Yeah. Austin, TX.
• 40:04
  Austin, TX. You really know your stuff.
• 40:06
  Oh it's such a good show, your stuff.
• 40:07
  I watch it religiously on YouTube.
• 40:09
  It's so. Incredible.
• 40:10
  I mean, I want to go back and redo it.
• 40:12
  So like with all of the things that I know now, like I just, I
• 40:15
  wish we could, you know, just be able to do so much for SGRF.
• 40:19
  Everyone feels that we have everything.
• 40:20
  You know, but that one was very special and there were so many
• 40:24
  special shows like X Factor. Australia was really cool that.
• 40:27
  Was such a good. Performance.
• 40:29
  I don't like the way I looked in that, but that was a really,
• 40:31
  really special thing. And there were all those
• 40:32
  piratonics. Is that the right word?
• 40:34
  Fire that's. Right.
• 40:36
  Terrifying. Dangling from the thing that
• 40:39
  comes from the ceiling. And then you drop.
• 40:41
  Down guys, look up the GRL X Factor, Ugly Heart, Performance
• 40:47
  X Factor Australia. It's incredible.
• 40:49
  They come down from a platform, a custom made general platform.
• 40:52
  They're performing. You guys are holding on for
• 40:53
  their life. Yeah, holding on for my life.
• 40:55
  I think I asked to be on the side so I could hold on to the
• 40:57
  thing. I can't remember.
• 40:59
  But then actually another one of my favorite performances was our
• 41:02
  last performance, which was Good Morning America.
• 41:05
  And of course, didn't know it was going to be our last
• 41:08
  performance at the time. But yeah, it was right around
• 41:10
  the time of my birthday. And that was the one I had to
• 41:12
  wake up at 2:00 in the morning for because we would rotate who
• 41:15
  would get ready 1st. And basically that's the only
• 41:17
  way we could make it fair is like, OK, who's going to get
• 41:19
  ready this time? And I was like, hello, it's my
• 41:22
  birthday, can I not have a pass? Right.
• 41:23
  But no, no. So I woke up first.
• 41:27
  We flew in like the night before, 2 hours of sleep
• 41:29
  basically. And then and then, yeah, we had
• 41:32
  to perform pretty early. I think like 6 or 7.
• 41:34
  I can't remember what time they record, but so interesting too
• 41:37
  cuz like our vocals were turned down and I don't know why, but
• 41:41
  our vocals were turned down. And I just remember that being
• 41:44
  one of the strongest I had ever sung.
• 41:45
  And especially at that hour, I was like, Oh my God, this is
• 41:48
  great. But at least I know how I
• 41:50
  sounded and I felt really good about it.
• 41:51
  But we all looked amazing and we all had so much fun.
• 41:54
  Yeah, so. And it was such an incredible
• 41:56
  performance. You said, as you mentioned, it
• 41:59
  was the last performance that you guys had as A5 and
• 42:02
  navigating the loss of Simone and moving forward from that era
• 42:06
  of GRL. How are you able to transition
• 42:09
  out of that? It's been years long process,
• 42:15
  right? I'm going to try not to cry.
• 42:17
  Oh my God, you're welcome. It's such a hard conversation to
• 42:19
  talk about because sometimes I'm fine and I don't get super
• 42:22
  emotional and like, OK, because there's been so much healing, so
• 42:25
  many different layers and levels.
• 42:27
  And you know, grieving is grieving is a lifelong.
• 42:29
  Thing, it's definitely not linear.
• 42:30
  It's not. It's definitely not linear.
• 42:34
  It was such a shock. And basically everything that
• 42:38
  transpired after that, like we, you know, we took a couple
• 42:41
  months off I think, and then we got right back into the studio
• 42:44
  so we could honour her with Lighthouse and do some
• 42:46
  performances and, you know, try to try to just honour her as
• 42:51
  best we could and like, keep the group going.
• 42:53
  We're like, is this what, you know, would she have wanted
• 42:55
  this? Would she you know so but not
• 42:57
  wanting to go on without her and like so many conflicting
• 43:00
  emotions, ultimately we disbanded not really by our
• 43:06
  choice like our label let us know I think a month before that
• 43:09
  they were letting us go was. This after lighthouse came out.
• 43:11
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was after I think, I think
• 43:14
  probably like 6 or seven months after.
• 43:18
  I can't really remember timelines but because.
• 43:21
  You guys were anticipating to continue forward.
• 43:23
  I was, I was hoping that we would, I mean, I, that had been
• 43:27
  my life for. The past few years, that time of
• 43:30
  your life, that was entirely your life.
• 43:33
  Yeah. And then it's not only dealing
• 43:34
  with the loss of a band member and a sister and a best friend,
• 43:38
  it's also mourning the loss of that era of JRL.
• 43:41
  Yeah. And then transitioning.
• 43:43
  Out of that, the dreams that we'd worked so hard for and
• 43:46
  there's so many layers. And so then I kind of just had
• 43:50
  to go straight into survival mode because I was like, well,
• 43:53
  if the label let's us go, I have no idea where I'm going to make
• 43:55
  my income or how I'm going to make money.
• 43:56
  And we have like I've got like a month to figure it out and maybe
• 44:00
  to some people that's a lot of time, but like dealing and
• 44:02
  processing size. I was like, what am I going to
• 44:04
  do? You know, I've like.
• 44:06
  Because. I've never really had a normal.
• 44:08
  Job. Job as well, yeah.
• 44:09
  Yes, so lots of things. And then not even a year and a
• 44:12
  half later, my mom suddenly passed, who was my best friend.
• 44:17
  And, you know, that came out of absolutely nowhere.
• 44:21
  And so then there was like that whole situation, of course, that
• 44:24
  I had to grieve. So there was a lot of loss in a
• 44:26
  very short amount of time, which interestingly, I guess I'm
• 44:29
  grateful that it happened in a chunk like that because it
• 44:34
  really forced me to like I had no other choice but to OK, look
• 44:39
  at this, sit with this. I can either be completely
• 44:42
  debilitated and and just wrecked for the rest of my life, which
• 44:46
  was very much an option. And that's completely.
• 44:48
  Fair. You know, I can somehow pick up
• 44:53
  the pieces even if it's one by one, even if I drop them along
• 44:56
  the way and I have to pick them back up like whatever it is and
• 44:58
  just keep. Going.
• 45:00
  It's absolutely a process. Well, navigating all that loss
• 45:03
  and then of course, moving on to the next chapter of your life at
• 45:06
  the time. So, you know, now you have to
• 45:08
  find a job now. The girl group had ended.
• 45:12
  You guys had worked so hard on it.
• 45:14
  How scary was that? And how like, how were you able
• 45:16
  to like, be able to navigate it while going through grief?
• 45:19
  I was just in survival mode, you know there.
• 45:22
  Was just time, yeah. There were so many different
• 45:25
  emotions and different feelings and, and every day I think was
• 45:29
  different. But at the time it was just
• 45:31
  like, OK, how am I just going to survive?
• 45:34
  Not just financially, but just emotionally, Like how am I going
• 45:37
  to get out of bed? So and then now without the
• 45:40
  group anymore, like the girls aren't there anymore to support
• 45:43
  you, were you? Of course, you were probably
• 45:44
  still there for each other, but not to the same capacity.
• 45:48
  Yeah. No, we've always really been
• 45:50
  there for each other. So yeah, I don't know what you
• 45:54
  went through this. Life changing experience
• 45:56
  together and you're going through this massive loss
• 45:59
  together. You know, like that kind of
• 46:02
  bonding is it's, it's forever. It's like solidified now.
• 46:05
  Yeah, we're, we've been bonded for life ever since we started
• 46:08
  GRL and then everything we've gone through together.
• 46:11
  Robin too, you know, of course. So now that you're like looking
• 46:15
  for any other job, did you think about like pursuing like, OK,
• 46:18
  I'm just going to try to be a solo artist now?
• 46:19
  Or did you think, OK, let me just get paid, let me make sure
• 46:22
  I can make money? I just needed to make money.
• 46:24
  Yeah. So I started doing like,
• 46:25
  whatever, like dance jobs would come up.
• 46:27
  I got into social media marketing and creative marketing
• 46:30
  back when that wasn't actually that big because Instagram was
• 46:33
  still only like a couple years old and I started helping
• 46:37
  different companies, which actually LED into some of the
• 46:39
  work that I do now. Like I still have a couple of
• 46:41
  private clients that I work for and like help them with their
• 46:43
  social media and creative marketing.
• 46:45
  So it did lead into other things that like work wise, but at the
• 46:50
  same time it also it actually gave me the ability to step back
• 46:56
  from some of the choices I was making for myself that were
• 46:59
  toxic and be able to heal those things.
• 47:02
  So were you also like, as you're pivoting away from the group,
• 47:06
  did you, did you tell yourself that you were going to come back
• 47:09
  to trying to be an artist at some point?
• 47:11
  I did want to be, but I feel like as much as I was trying and
• 47:15
  as much as I was working with certain people, I, I, I just was
• 47:20
  so in such a hard place in life that it, it just wasn't the
• 47:25
  right timing for me. And the universe knew that.
• 47:27
  So as much as I was trying to maybe record or write songs like
• 47:31
  that was great for my creative process and great for an
• 47:33
  emotional outlet, but it just wasn't supposed to happen at
• 47:36
  that time. Otherwise I feel like it would
• 47:38
  have. So I did want to, but there also
• 47:40
  weren't opportunities that were presenting themselves that could
• 47:42
  have like helped me do that. During this entire time post
• 47:47
  URL, grieving, pivoting, adapting, did you start leaning
• 47:51
  more into your own spiritual path for healing and comfort and
• 47:55
  guidance? Definitely, because that's the
• 47:57
  only way I feel like I could have fully come out.
• 48:01
  Yeah. Of.
• 48:03
  Because you were, you were in a dark place at the time.
• 48:06
  And not even just then like being in GRL, as amazing as it
• 48:10
  was, like, you know, you're still a person, you're still a
• 48:12
  human. You're carrying whatever
• 48:13
  stressors and personal issues you're dealing with and you
• 48:16
  know, you, we're in a situation where it was a high stress
• 48:20
  situation. You're in Hollywood, you're in
• 48:21
  entertainment, you're dealing with a lot.
• 48:23
  Like you know you had to find different ways to cope with it
• 48:25
  or embrace it, right? Well, and I know you wanted to
• 48:28
  talk about this, so I'll just lay it all out on the table.
• 48:31
  So before I had joined GRL, that boyfriend that I'd been talking
• 48:36
  about earlier, that new Kenny, that new Lauren's boyfriend.
• 48:40
  So sorry, Sir, we're putting you on blast.
• 48:45
  No, but there's a it was a really toxic relationship, like
• 48:47
  really, really toxic. And I didn't know it was really
• 48:49
  toxic until about the last year of the relationship.
• 48:52
  And so at that time, like I, I drank occasionally, you know
• 48:57
  what I mean? But it was definitely not a
• 49:00
  problem. Like it was, you know, like out
• 49:02
  when I was having fun with friends or whatever, right?
• 49:05
  But as soon as our relationship started to spiral, I definitely
• 49:08
  leaned on alcohol. And that also turned into a
• 49:11
  substance addiction that developed over the course of a
• 49:18
  couple of years. And I didn't really fully
• 49:21
  realize it had become an addiction until I was like, no,
• 49:23
  wait, this is the definition of an addiction, right?
• 49:25
  You know, and I used it because I didn't have strength in my
• 49:31
  other tools, right? And I used it to anesthetize
• 49:36
  and, and try to reach a higher space.
• 49:38
  I actually would. Like if I was drinking or, or
• 49:42
  using, I would go and, like, sit in my split machine right in my
• 49:45
  journal, like do all these things to help me feel better.
• 49:48
  But I could not get out of the mental hamster wheel.
• 49:53
  Really. Yeah.
• 49:54
  You're under the. Cycle.
• 49:55
  Yeah, so. So I did end up with a problem
• 50:00
  and that did carry over to some of my work with GRL.
• 50:02
  I mean, I was pretty good about like taking breaks like when I
• 50:05
  had to and like being really on my, on my stuff when it came to
• 50:09
  professional things and like making sure I was doing my work.
• 50:11
  But I can't even imagine how much better I would have been in
• 50:14
  every single way had I not been doing that.
• 50:16
  But I couldn't get out of it and I was really stuck in that.
• 50:19
  So when GRL, you know, disbanded not by choice, that did give me
• 50:26
  the opportunity to take some time and really sit with myself.
• 50:29
  And it actually took like I'd there'd been many times where I
• 50:33
  tried to force it or tried to stop on my own, get help in
• 50:36
  different ways that are all part of my story that I would never
• 50:40
  take back and definitely helped me to get to where I am now.
• 50:43
  But it wasn't until after my mom passed and then I was gifted so
• 50:48
  generously this session with this master healer that I've
• 50:50
  been working with for so long that I was really able to cut
• 50:55
  that off and then fully start my healing journey.
• 50:58
  Because you can't really heal when that those toxic things are
• 51:01
  in your system. Absolutely.
• 51:03
  It's just just the cycle will keep repeating.
• 51:07
  Do you feel like if JRL had continued on you wouldn't have
• 51:11
  been able to heal and get through those?
• 51:13
  I do believe that. I do believe that.
• 51:16
  I like to believe that that wouldn't be true.
• 51:19
  But if I really think about it, then yeah, I feel like, I feel
• 51:23
  like I would have been in a really bad place.
• 51:25
  I already was in a really bad place, and I don't think it
• 51:29
  would have gotten better. I think it would have gotten
• 51:30
  worse. So we talk about like all these
• 51:32
  hits that you're experiencing and they're they're big and
• 51:35
  they're devastating. And now you're really leaning
• 51:37
  into your own path with your spiritual journey and getting
• 51:41
  into holistic healing also for yourself.
• 51:43
  And I know that you're very, very into holistic healing.
• 51:47
  You have studied it as well with.
• 51:50
  Ayurveda. Ayurveda.
• 51:51
  Ayurveda I'm. So sorry guys, I practice it so
• 51:54
  much. I thought it was Ayurveda before
• 51:56
  I went to school for it too. So you're all good?
• 51:58
  It's hard to. Say I feel better.
• 51:59
  I feel better. And then you, you went to school
• 52:01
  for it. This was after GRL.
• 52:02
  This was after GRL, so ever since I was a tiny tot, like
• 52:06
  back when I first became super passionate about entertainment,
• 52:09
  like I was also really passionate about everything
• 52:11
  spiritual. Like I just came out like that.
• 52:13
  Definitely past life remembrance for sure.
• 52:15
  Holistic medicine, all the things.
• 52:18
  And so I always imagined myself delving into that world in some
• 52:22
  form or another at some point. I didn't anticipate doing it so
• 52:25
  soon, but when the pandemic hit, my dad and stepmom actually
• 52:30
  approached me and they were like, hey, so we think you
• 52:33
  should go back to school. Like you need to do something
• 52:35
  cuz like what you're doing right now isn't really working.
• 52:38
  And I really, it was such an ego blow and they did this to me
• 52:40
  when I had COVID. So I was like.
• 52:43
  Not when you're down. Yeah, and at the same time, No,
• 52:46
  at the same time, my apartment had flooded, so I was like,
• 52:51
  pipes are leaking, My emotions are going crazy.
• 52:53
  It was so symbolic. Another ego.
• 52:56
  Yeah, it was such a breakthrough.
• 52:57
  The universe was like, we got to make this so obvious for her.
• 52:59
  And so it was a really beautiful experience.
• 53:01
  I did go back to school for two years.
• 53:02
  I went through the whole process.
• 53:04
  I worked at a Wellness Center for a while.
• 53:06
  After that I worked with some private clients and really
• 53:09
  beautiful experience that I still take with me and and lots
• 53:14
  of pieces of that play a part in everything I'm doing now and I
• 53:17
  imagine will only continue to play a huge role.
• 53:20
  Yeah, and it was such a like, I feel like it's literally, I can
• 53:23
  tell how different you are. I feel like you've really leaned
• 53:26
  into that and it really aligns with your spirituality.
• 53:28
  I tell my friends all the time because I'm, I'm quite spiritual
• 53:31
  myself, but like I told my friends all the time, Natasha is
• 53:34
  beyond spiritual. Every time I see you, you're
• 53:36
  like, you're rattling off something else.
• 53:38
  I'm like I have no idea. My life, it's my version of
• 53:41
  delulu, like normal people. I'm sure.
• 53:43
  I'm sure you and the listeners will probably understand me, but
• 53:46
  but normal people are kind of like, they'll look at me like is
• 53:49
  and I just forget that I'm a little bit weird, but it's fine.
• 53:52
  No, it's it's actually so normal in Hollywood too.
• 53:55
  Like, you're fine, you're in the right place.
• 53:56
  That's true. That's true.
• 53:57
  Born and raised in LA So I'm just naturally like, you know, I
• 53:59
  lean into that, Yeah, but. Well, this is happening during
• 54:02
  the pandemic that your stepdad and your stepmother talk to you
• 54:05
  about this. My real dad, but yeah.
• 54:06
  Your real dad, so sorry, your real dad and your stepmother
• 54:09
  talk to you about this and then you start going to school.
• 54:11
  But then following that, you actually release your debut solo
• 54:14
  single love Me like me in 2021. And this is such a powerful
• 54:20
  affirmation song. Everyone stream it right after
• 54:23
  you rate the show. 5 stars. Natasha Sladen Love me like me
• 54:26
  and I actually saw you perform it live right before the
• 54:28
  pandemic started. And I actually begged you that
• 54:30
  was and I like the most I begged you to release.
• 54:32
  I begged you to release. I begged you to release it.
• 54:33
  And then you finally dropped it in 2021.
• 54:35
  And this is your true entry as Natasha Slain and solo artist.
• 54:39
  You know, how is that dynamic different from, you know,
• 54:42
  releasing in a group as you had been?
• 54:43
  Doing Oh my gosh, so different. I mean, this very much embodied
• 54:46
  me and my journey and. Everything we just think about
• 54:49
  right now is all in that. Song, all of it.
• 54:52
  And you know, even if I release nothing else ever in my life,
• 54:56
  and I hope that's not the case, but even if I will be so happy
• 54:59
  that that song out there. It's such an incredible,
• 55:02
  powerful song, Oh my God. There's like, you know, not a
• 55:04
  lot of promotion. I had to pay out of pocket for,
• 55:07
  you know, my publicist friend to get me in a few little outlets
• 55:10
  here and there and like do a couple podcasts and things like
• 55:12
  that. But.
• 55:13
  Yeah, it's hard when you're indie, especially coming from a
• 55:15
  giant machine where you had everyone handling it for you and
• 55:18
  you just knew you had like, show up at this time, you know, be.
• 55:21
  Here, say this, this is what you're doing.
• 55:23
  But The thing is too is like that's why I hadn't released
• 55:27
  because it's like, OK, well, I there's this certain now that
• 55:31
  I'm expecting to be able to live up to with GRL and not that this
• 55:33
  song does, but this is so me that it feels.
• 55:37
  It deserves its life it. Deserves.
• 55:38
  So right to be seen and heard, Absolutely.
• 55:41
  Yeah, I'm still proud of it. You should be proud of it.
• 55:43
  I want to sing it right now, but I don't want to.
• 55:44
  Sing, go, sing, go sing. OK, wait, I'm not going to sing.
• 55:47
  You can sing or need it. I'm so nervous.
• 55:49
  I was looking in the mirror. I can't do it.
• 55:52
  I'm too nervous of singing it, but I would.
• 55:53
  I'll sing it all the way on the way here.
• 55:55
  It's such a great affirmation song.
• 55:57
  So guys, if you haven't listened to it, it's also just like
• 55:59
  confronting sobriety. It's not necessarily a sobriety
• 56:01
  song, but just coming clean with yourself and embracing yourself
• 56:04
  and realizing that you truly do not need love outside of the
• 56:08
  love that you give yourself. And I think that's so powerful.
• 56:10
  Yeah, it's about really finding that feeling that we're all
• 56:12
  searching for. So instead of anesthetizing
• 56:14
  ourselves with whatever it is you know.
• 56:17
  You had to write the song for yourself, but honestly, it's
• 56:19
  healing for the world. I think that's something that
• 56:21
  the world needs to hear and needs to embrace as well.
• 56:23
  Just because I think a lot of us naturally search for love and
• 56:26
  validation and other people and other things and
• 56:28
  accomplishments. But, you know, taking the time
• 56:30
  to sit down and reflect and being like, you know what?
• 56:32
  Loving myself is more than enough.
• 56:34
  And you had to go through everything that you went through
• 56:36
  for the songs to even come about.
• 56:37
  Absolutely. Well, I'm a huge fan of Loving
• 56:40
  Like Me. Honestly, it's extremely
• 56:41
  inspiring. It is the Affirmation song, but
• 56:44
  I also wanted to know if we were gonna get any more Natasha
• 56:46
  Slaton solo music. Hopefully eventually I would
• 56:50
  love to do that. The timing hasn't presented
• 56:52
  itself. And you know, what's so
• 56:53
  interesting is that, at least to me, it's interesting.
• 56:56
  But a couple of years ago when I was going through school, I was
• 57:00
  feeling so much discord between wanting to go to school and
• 57:03
  wanting to, you know, delve into holistic medicine in in such an
• 57:07
  in depth way, but then also being conflicted and wanting to
• 57:10
  keep pursuing music. And I literally had a moment
• 57:13
  where I asked God and I said, please, please take this desire
• 57:18
  away from me. If it's not what you're wanting
• 57:21
  me to pursue right now, OK. And for the first time in my
• 57:24
  entire life, that desire just went.
• 57:28
  Where's it now? It is still there.
• 57:30
  It's coming back. It's coming back slowly but
• 57:32
  surely. But it really did get kind of
• 57:35
  lifted off of me for the time being where I was able to focus
• 57:37
  more on what I was currently needing to pursue, which was
• 57:40
  really great because it allowed me to be more present in that
• 57:42
  moment versus feeling that like. But yeah, so now that I'm
• 57:47
  feeling more and more like performing again and doing music
• 57:50
  again and feeling like there is a market and that I'm not aged
• 57:54
  out completely. You're not aged out at all.
• 57:57
  Seriously. I feel I would like to.
• 57:58
  I feel like everyone. Feels that way too.
• 58:00
  I'd love to do a GRL reunion too.
• 58:02
  Oh, we're gonna get into that. Oh my gosh.
• 58:03
  I'm still to this day manifesting this GRL reunion and
• 58:07
  I know it's happening. I want it to happen.
• 58:09
  I know it's happening. Lauren now lives in London.
• 58:11
  That's where she's from. Emmalin's back in Canada, where
• 58:13
  she's from. Paula and I are still here.
• 58:16
  But yeah, I mean, logistically it's a little bit more
• 58:18
  difficult. Emmeline and Paula or Emmeline
• 58:20
  and Paula? Emmeline and Lauren have kids
• 58:21
  now, but it's still totally possible.
• 58:24
  And you guys were crushing. You guys were when you guys
• 58:27
  chum. So for context, Lulu JRL did
• 58:31
  have a little reunion in 2021. The four original girls got back
• 58:36
  together and they started working on new music and.
• 58:39
  Then Paula left. Paula.
• 58:40
  Paula left. Paula, she is.
• 58:42
  She's really a Gemini. So yeah.
• 58:44
  Yeah, she is. Happy birthday to Paula's Gemini
• 58:47
  season. She's a Gemini, so she backed
• 58:50
  out of the project. But my gosh, Natasha and
• 58:53
  Emmeline and Lauren continued on as a three as far as they could
• 58:57
  go before I think Emmeline had to go back to Canada and then.
• 59:00
  Yeah, There was just not a lot of, you know, like funding going
• 59:03
  on. And we, you know, we are all
• 59:04
  adults. We have to pay for our lives.
• 59:06
  We have to do our things. So the timing just wasn't right.
• 59:08
  You know, we were still in the middle of the pandemic.
• 59:10
  Yeah. There were a lot of different
• 59:11
  variables that made it not so easy.
• 59:13
  And so, you know, we just thought that it would be better
• 59:16
  to stop forcing it. Not that we didn't want to do
• 59:18
  it. We just felt like there would be
• 59:19
  a time. And then, you know, Emmeline
• 59:21
  didn't have kids at that time. So then that happened.
• 59:23
  And, you know, there's a lot of different things that have
• 59:25
  developed. Yeah.
• 59:26
  Life happens. But I know we all still want to.
• 59:29
  And Paula actually does want to be part of it.
• 59:31
  So she, as far as I know, she'll be back.
• 59:34
  Oh. My gosh.
• 59:35
  Paula. Please, for me, for me
• 59:37
  personally, Paula, will you please do it?
• 59:40
  Yeah, no, she wants to. So we'll see.
• 59:41
  We'll see what happens. Oh my God.
• 59:42
  Can't say when because I don't know but.
• 59:45
  What about all the music that you had recorded in that new
• 59:47
  iteration of GRL? Good.
• 59:49
  It's so good. So many songs, it really is good
• 59:54
  and I don't like to toot my own horn all the time.
• 59:57
  Can I toot it? Can I toot it?
• 59:58
  Natasha played me some of the songs in my car.
• 1:00:01
  I lost my. Breaking Deacon mind y'all.
• 1:00:05
  It is so good and it's so perfectly GRL.
• 1:00:07
  It really is GRL in the 20 twenties.
• 1:00:10
  I cannot believe how perfect it is.
• 1:00:12
  To hear it so. We're manifesting it, Bessie
• 1:00:14
  Lulu's, we're all setting an intention new GRL music and
• 1:00:17
  we're all streaming it and supporting it and we're so
• 1:00:19
  excited to hear it. And we're also excited to hear
• 1:00:21
  your solo music as well. Thank you.
• 1:00:22
  And of course, we believe in divine timing.
• 1:00:24
  Whenever it's right, you know we're ready for you.
• 1:00:26
  We're ready for to experience it and hear it.
• 1:00:29
  Thanks, Ryan, of course. Thank you.
• 1:00:30
  Oh. My God, I'm going to be the
• 1:00:31
  first person. You make it so easy to be
• 1:00:33
  supportive. I love everything you do.
• 1:00:35
  I love everything you do, including what you're doing now.
• 1:00:38
  So, Natasha, I was going. To be like, what am I doing now?
• 1:00:41
  But I totally know, yeah. We're we're about a segue.
• 1:00:43
  Natasha is also a very talented lip print reader.
• 1:00:48
  And if you guys don't know what lip printing yet, it's
• 1:00:50
  essentially like tarot, but it's looking into your lip print.
• 1:00:54
  You put lipstick on, you kiss the paper and Natasha can read
• 1:00:58
  your lip print to tell you a little bit more about yourself.
• 1:00:59
  You uncover a little bit more about who you are, attributes of
• 1:01:03
  yourself. I've gone in so many from
• 1:01:04
  Natasha. I have them on my office wall
• 1:01:06
  and I look at them all the time. Not only is it beautiful in art,
• 1:01:09
  but she nails it. Oh, thank you.
• 1:01:10
  Nail it. You're so good at it.
• 1:01:12
  You're so talented at it. It's such a random thing that
• 1:01:14
  came up that I didn't even know about until a few years ago,
• 1:01:16
  literally when I was finishing my last year of school, right,
• 1:01:20
  and someone was doing it at this bridal shower that I went to.
• 1:01:23
  And immediately I was like, Oh my God, what is this?
• 1:01:26
  I geeked out. I girled out.
• 1:01:28
  I was like, I need this in my life.
• 1:01:30
  It's absolutely love right now. Yeah, 100%.
• 1:01:32
  It was like this spirituality mixed with the glam and it fun
• 1:01:35
  fact, it actually is half research science and half
• 1:01:38
  intuitive art form. So while it is reminiscent of
• 1:01:40
  things like Tarot or Palma St. it also is very rooted in those
• 1:01:44
  things are rooted in a bit of science as well.
• 1:01:46
  But some people will debate. Yeah, but it's also a lot like
• 1:01:49
  graphology or the study of handwriting analysis.
• 1:01:52
  But yeah, it's it's a very much a snapshot of the current
• 1:01:55
  moment. And it's also very much like a
• 1:01:57
  love letter from your highest self to you.
• 1:01:59
  So it gives you a lot of like confirmations and it talks about
• 1:02:01
  your personality traits and your energy and your stress levels
• 1:02:04
  and sometimes things like guardian angels or health
• 1:02:06
  concerns will pop up. But it's very loving and very.
• 1:02:10
  It's very reassuring. I always feel like when you give
• 1:02:12
  me a lip reading, a lip print reading, I feel like you're.
• 1:02:15
  It's a hug. It's thank.
• 1:02:16
  You. Reassurance and I need it.
• 1:02:18
  Like I never even know how bad I need until you give it to me.
• 1:02:21
  And it's also beautiful, too. It's cool the way that you know
• 1:02:25
  someone's lip prints will show up on the page because it's
• 1:02:28
  exactly what you need in that moment.
• 1:02:29
  So you know what you what shows up on the page for you one time
• 1:02:34
  might actually change, you know, from moment to moment because of
• 1:02:37
  the way that your like brain waves and your blood vessels
• 1:02:40
  like make help you make the lip print like it's really cool the
• 1:02:43
  way. I'm so excited, Natasha, would
• 1:02:45
  you be down to give me a really quick lip print reading?
• 1:02:47
  Yes. So we could show the bestie
• 1:02:48
  Lulu. Yes.
• 1:02:50
  I'm so curious because last time we did this, you everything was
• 1:02:54
  so nice and positive and good. I was definitely in a different
• 1:02:56
  part of my life and where I am today.
• 1:02:57
  I'm so curious. OK, let me just see what's going
• 1:03:00
  on over here. And reach around.
• 1:03:01
  Can you get it? Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  You want to hand me the pen? And here we go.
• 1:03:04
  So brought you a brand new lipstick.
• 1:03:06
  Thank you. Shout out, Lollis.
• 1:03:07
  Shout out Lollis Vegan, right? Yeah.
• 1:03:09
  Vegan. Multi free.
• 1:03:10
  It's also available in Sephora. You know what, they're not
• 1:03:12
  paying me to say that. Shout out Lollis.
• 1:03:14
  OK, so we're going to do a little lip print reading.
• 1:03:17
  Beautiful. I'm going.
• 1:03:18
  To make eye contact with you while I'm putting it on.
• 1:03:21
  It's going to be our lip print reading.
• 1:03:23
  OK, that's what I want it to be OK, I'm I'm applying some
• 1:03:26
  lipstick on right now. Bestie Lulu's.
• 1:03:27
  For anyone who's not watching the video version of the
• 1:03:30
  podcast, which is available exclusively on Spotify, please
• 1:03:32
  check it out so you can see Natasha's gorgeous face.
• 1:03:35
  Of course, in me applying lipstick.
• 1:03:40
  I can't multitask. Sorry.
• 1:03:42
  I'm so. Good at this?
• 1:03:43
  Yeah. I don't really wear lipstick,
• 1:03:46
  it's pretty on me though. Pro It is pretty.
• 1:03:48
  Thank you. And it needs to be really dark,
• 1:03:51
  pigmented color, bright color, so that I can really see the lip
• 1:03:54
  print on the page. So like, go in.
• 1:03:57
  No, I can't tell you what to do. Oh, OK, OK.
• 1:04:00
  No, no feedback. All right, I.
• 1:04:04
  I just wanted to give them a reason as to why the color is
• 1:04:07
  like so extreme. Well, I like this color, Brett.
• 1:04:09
  What do we think? Brett's next.
• 1:04:13
  We have one for you too. That's true.
• 1:04:16
  Is this my colour, Brett? Thank you.
• 1:04:20
  Brett says. It's my colour.
• 1:04:21
  OK, I feel good about that. OK, so after we apply the
• 1:04:25
  lipstick we just take, we do a little little pucker, a little
• 1:04:28
  kiss pretty. Beautiful.
• 1:04:34
  OK, show me. Here's the kiss print besties
• 1:04:37
  and Natasha's. Can you get into it?
• 1:04:39
  Tell me. Tell us everything.
• 1:04:40
  Tell us the T Lulu about me. I I want to know.
• 1:04:42
  So first and foremost, first thing that shows up is that your
• 1:04:45
  lip print is between the sizes of medium and big, but more so
• 1:04:48
  on the big side. So this tells me you're a go
• 1:04:50
  bigger, go home type of personality.
• 1:04:51
  I am You prefer quality over quantity.
• 1:04:53
  You want to do things right or not at all, and you don't like
• 1:04:55
  to be nitpicked on things like time or budget.
• 1:04:57
  You're like, I need to just do this the right way and that's
• 1:04:59
  it, yes. Oh my God.
• 1:05:01
  Brett's like, yeah, it's all of that.
• 1:05:03
  I have all of that. Absolutely.
• 1:05:05
  Can't promise that my right is going to be super good right
• 1:05:07
  now. No.
• 1:05:08
  I'm you're because I'm writing on.
• 1:05:09
  My mind trust. Me but then because you also are
• 1:05:12
  giving like medium lip print mixed with the big, it's telling
• 1:05:16
  me, you know, you're a bit of a busy beat.
• 1:05:17
  You've got a lot of things going on.
• 1:05:19
  You'll be juggling over here, juggling over there.
• 1:05:21
  Always have something going on, always have something to do and
• 1:05:23
  like to schedule yourself well in advance when possible.
• 1:05:26
  Well in advance. But if things don't go exactly
• 1:05:28
  according to plan, you might have a tendency to beat yourself
• 1:05:31
  up just a little bit. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:05:33
  Your lip prints are asking you to take time.
• 1:05:36
  Interesting. Be present.
• 1:05:37
  You're nailing it. Get a little bit more grounded
• 1:05:40
  and really enjoy the process and also take time to acknowledge
• 1:05:44
  the things that you're doing. Give yourself credit for all you
• 1:05:46
  do. Thank you.
• 1:05:47
  You're welcome. That's immediately so insightful
• 1:05:50
  and resonating because like, yes, especially where I am in my
• 1:05:52
  life right now. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:05:55
  And it might also be pretty detail oriented, which I
• 1:05:58
  actually know to be true because the top lip is coming in a bit
• 1:06:01
  more thin than then maybe we would see in a typical like big
• 1:06:07
  all the way through sized lip print.
• 1:06:09
  Yeah, that is telling me that you are a bit detail oriented
• 1:06:11
  and you, you know, you're very good with the details.
• 1:06:14
  I am very detail oriented besties.
• 1:06:17
  The way that the corners are coming in, they're actually cut
• 1:06:20
  off. Can you see this?
• 1:06:21
  I don't know if I need to show show you.
• 1:06:23
  They're not attached to each. Other yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:25
  So the corners are cut off on the sides, which tells me you
• 1:06:27
  are really focused on taking care of business at the current
• 1:06:30
  moment. So this is another affirmation
• 1:06:31
  that getting present, yeah, with yourself in the current time and
• 1:06:35
  like really enjoying the process of what you're going through,
• 1:06:37
  OK, is going to be super important right now.
• 1:06:39
  Just slowing down, taking a breath.
• 1:06:41
  I could use that too right now. So this is just that reminder.
• 1:06:45
  Yeah, this is eating me a lot. No, but this is these are all
• 1:06:47
  good things on the bottom lip. So top lip represents external
• 1:06:50
  world, things that are going on outside of the self.
• 1:06:53
  So people, circumstances, situations and events that are
• 1:06:56
  going on outside of the self. Whereas bottom lip is more
• 1:06:58
  internal world, things to do with the self.
• 1:07:01
  Now, when we look at the internal world, we do have seeds
• 1:07:05
  of transformation coming up. So these are a lot of new
• 1:07:07
  things, new projects that are going on, things that will
• 1:07:10
  either affect you in a positive way.
• 1:07:12
  Oh, absolutely. But as well as the community or
• 1:07:15
  world at large. So the things that you're
• 1:07:17
  working on right now keep going. This is your confirmation of
• 1:07:20
  those things. These are good.
• 1:07:21
  Oh. My God, claiming I needed that
• 1:07:23
  so bad. Thank you so much.
• 1:07:25
  Keep going. And if any ideas are coming up,
• 1:07:27
  I know you're working on things right now, literally as we
• 1:07:29
  speak, but if any new inspirations come up, yeah,
• 1:07:31
  follow those, OK. Yeah, OK.
• 1:07:33
  Absolutely. Going keep writing is terrible
• 1:07:36
  right now. That's so good.
• 1:07:37
  It's so reassuring. Get grounded.
• 1:07:43
  Let's see what else. Energetically speaking, the lip
• 1:07:46
  print is a little bit, what I would say splotchy in
• 1:07:49
  colorization. So like some of the pieces are
• 1:07:52
  very pigmented, others are a little bit more light.
• 1:07:54
  This tells me there's some up and down energy going on.
• 1:07:56
  So like you'll have bursts of energy and then you'll be really
• 1:07:58
  tired. It's almost like your go, go, go
• 1:08:01
  until no, no, no, you crash and burn and have to stop and take a
• 1:08:04
  rest. So more rest more often.
• 1:08:06
  I think this all comes down to everything we've already been
• 1:08:08
  talking about, right? When it comes to, like, family
• 1:08:15
  and friends right now, you're actually very energized.
• 1:08:17
  There's like some prominent energy there.
• 1:08:19
  Yeah. So I don't know if that's giving
• 1:08:20
  you some extra life right now. It's the only thing giving you
• 1:08:23
  like right now. Thank you, besties.
• 1:08:26
  There are some stress lines, so finding ways to, you know,
• 1:08:31
  relieve some stress or figuring out ways that can help you feel
• 1:08:37
  a little bit less physically and emotionally drained will be
• 1:08:39
  helpful. Right now, again, a lot going
• 1:08:41
  on. It's easier said than done.
• 1:08:42
  I understand that. And then last thing I'll say,
• 1:08:46
  there's so much more to say. There's so much here.
• 1:08:48
  I feel like it's like our. I want to keep reading.
• 1:08:52
  We are having a bit of a WAVY lower print.
• 1:08:55
  So this is waviness represents like creativity and what is on
• 1:08:59
  the lower print because we're talking internal world has to do
• 1:09:02
  with the self. This might be telling you to if
• 1:09:05
  you've if you've got some creativity that you're not fully
• 1:09:08
  sharing yet. That you.
• 1:09:10
  Can and should be sharing more of this, sharing more of
• 1:09:12
  yourself. If you've got it, flaunt it, so
• 1:09:14
  to speak. OK, I got it.
• 1:09:15
  I'm gonna, I'm gonna start flaunting.
• 1:09:17
  Yeah. Oh my gosh, I love that.
• 1:09:18
  Thank you. What part of the lip print says
• 1:09:22
  how to Lulu I am? Good question.
• 1:09:28
  It doesn't really though. OK, well the Duluth is up here.
• 1:09:31
  Yeah, yeah, there's, you know, there's that creativity that's
• 1:09:34
  coming through. You have a couple.
• 1:09:36
  I didn't actually even talk about shape.
• 1:09:38
  So we've got a round shape. We've also got a diamond and we
• 1:09:40
  also have a square or a rectangle.
• 1:09:43
  So the rectangle tells me you are good at solving problems of
• 1:09:46
  a problem solver and go to person like people feel
• 1:09:48
  comfortable going to you to solve these problems, right.
• 1:09:51
  But you're also a bit of a peacekeeper.
• 1:09:52
  Like you like things running smoothly.
• 1:09:54
  You don't like not a fan of things like controversy or
• 1:09:56
  confusion? Nailing it.
• 1:09:57
  Brett could have read this. Don't even have to know how to
• 1:10:01
  do a lip part reading. Just talk about Ryan, OK, It's
• 1:10:03
  all right here. It's.
• 1:10:05
  It's all there. And then there is also an
• 1:10:07
  element of there being a diamond, which, you know, makes
• 1:10:10
  sense because it's like diamonds.
• 1:10:11
  You know, diamonds are a girl's best friend.
• 1:10:13
  The diamond people are everyone's best friend.
• 1:10:15
  They're also successful in the things that they do sometimes in
• 1:10:18
  all of the things they do. And if there's something that
• 1:10:20
  you that you feel you should could be doing or could be doing
• 1:10:23
  like this, is that recognition that you're going to be
• 1:10:25
  successful doing it And you're also really good at helping
• 1:10:28
  other people to become successful.
• 1:10:29
  So if you know how to do something, you know to teach
• 1:10:31
  someone else how to do it. Thank you.
• 1:10:32
  Oh my God, I love all that. And that's exactly what I want
• 1:10:35
  to do too. Like I want to bring everyone up
• 1:10:37
  with me. I want to see everyone succeed.
• 1:10:39
  So I love hearing that. And it reassures me that I'm
• 1:10:42
  like, OK, I'm not like just egotistical.
• 1:10:45
  No, not at all. And I'm gonna.
• 1:10:46
  I'll finish writing down the things when we're done, but for
• 1:10:48
  the sake of the show, I'm gonna. No, I love that.
• 1:10:50
  That was so good. You're so talented and you did
• 1:10:52
  it so like quick. Thank you.
• 1:10:54
  I'm so passionate about it. It's so much fun and you know, a
• 1:10:57
  lot of times we'll have slower readings or longer readings.
• 1:11:00
  I can take my time and not be like, oh peppy, peppy, peppy.
• 1:11:03
  Here's this, here's that. Absolutely.
• 1:11:04
  You know the faster readings you get my.
• 1:11:07
  Still very, very, very in depth though, like even though you
• 1:11:11
  were doing a quick one for us and we so appreciate it.
• 1:11:13
  But also best if you want to get a lip reading, lip print reading
• 1:11:16
  from Natasha, you can go to Kiss and Tell by natasha.com or hit
• 1:11:20
  up Natasha on Instagram. You can DM her at Natasha
• 1:11:24
  Slayton. Or at Kiss and Tell by Natasha
• 1:11:26
  or. At Kiss and Tell by Natasha as
• 1:11:28
  well and it is a. Really interesting.
• 1:11:30
  Oh. My God, of course everyone can
• 1:11:31
  go get a lip print reading with Natasha.
• 1:11:33
  She could do it virtually as well.
• 1:11:34
  I can do it virtually, Yeah. I mostly do like parties and
• 1:11:37
  events, yeah. And then I do have
• 1:11:39
  individualized readings as well. And I'm going to set up an
• 1:11:41
  easier, more streamlined system. So probably by the time this
• 1:11:44
  episode comes out, there'll be a way to actually book.
• 1:11:47
  But for now, you can still book. You just have to reach out to
• 1:11:49
  me, whether e-mail or RTM. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
• 1:11:53
  Get your lip prints red besties. That was incredible.
• 1:11:55
  Thank you. Of course, thanks for letting me
• 1:11:57
  share. Of course.
• 1:11:58
  Oh my God that was super fun. Love reading your lip prints?
• 1:12:00
  Thank you. You're really good at it.
• 1:12:01
  And it's interesting because actually, like I said before,
• 1:12:03
  when you read me last time, I was in AI guess a little more
• 1:12:06
  LAX place in my life and everything was kind of chill,
• 1:12:08
  easy breezy peasy, right? And I am feeling like I'm so
• 1:12:12
  focused on this project, which is the podcast right now.
• 1:12:15
  And like it showed up in the lips.
• 1:12:18
  In the lips. Yeah, it definitely did for
• 1:12:19
  sure. It's, it's telling you all the
• 1:12:21
  things that we already talked about, which is like getting
• 1:12:23
  present and, you know, taking more time for yourself and
• 1:12:26
  really enjoying the current moment, giving yourself credit
• 1:12:28
  for all the things you're doing. That's what I really want to do
• 1:12:31
  right now in this moment in my life is be more present.
• 1:12:33
  Like even right now talking to you, looking at you filming
• 1:12:36
  this, like I'm really trying to grab myself and be here because
• 1:12:39
  like it's always what's next. I have to get to the next thing.
• 1:12:42
  Natasha, we're going to do our game here on delulu WWADGD,
• 1:12:46
  which is what would a delulu girl do?
• 1:12:49
  But specifically for this episode, it is what would a
• 1:12:52
  delulu GRL do? What?
• 1:12:55
  You did there, yes. I'm so excited to say that.
• 1:12:58
  So this is where our bestie Lulu submit their questions,
• 1:13:01
  concerns, situations, anything that they want advice on and we
• 1:13:04
  give our delulu take or series take, whatever advice we have to
• 1:13:08
  give them. OK, I love.
• 1:13:09
  That OK? Are you ready?
• 1:13:10
  Yeah. So the first one that we have
• 1:13:13
  here is from an anonymous bestie.
• 1:13:15
  I regret breaking up with my boyfriend and I feel like he
• 1:13:17
  looks so much better about me. Should I initiate getting back
• 1:13:20
  together? What do you think?
• 1:13:25
  I feel like here's my answer. If you truly want them back
• 1:13:29
  because you miss the relationship, you miss them.
• 1:13:31
  I think you should. But if it's because you think
• 1:13:34
  they look better about you, you have to.
• 1:13:36
  Like say that. Just reflect a little like, you
• 1:13:38
  know what I mean? Like is it it's it your ego that
• 1:13:40
  wants them back or is it like you truly want them back?
• 1:13:43
  And then I think when you answer that question and you could, you
• 1:13:46
  could take it from there. Yeah, that's really good advice.
• 1:13:48
  I actually I very much agree with that and didn't mean to
• 1:13:50
  laugh. But no I was thinking like the
• 1:13:52
  same thing like. That's good advice.
• 1:13:54
  Yeah. You know what's crazy?
• 1:13:55
  I use my advice isn't like, not that good.
• 1:13:56
  I don't know where that came from.
• 1:13:58
  OK, so that's the like, really reflect on that.
• 1:14:00
  Yeah. I think it's cuz of our
• 1:14:01
  conversation during this show so far.
• 1:14:04
  I'm just like, yeah, you're right.
• 1:14:05
  Like I'm enlightened now. Yeah, and and reflect on the
• 1:14:07
  reasons why you broke up in the 1st place, Yeah.
• 1:14:10
  Think about it if you. Can make a deal, yeah.
• 1:14:12
  Right, so we have another one from another anonymous best a
• 1:14:15
  non. They're asking how do I move on
• 1:14:17
  from an ex. I have one.
• 1:14:21
  OK, go. You're the you're coming out
• 1:14:22
  with all the advice right now. Well, they come off the Dome.
• 1:14:25
  I think what I do is I force myself to hate them.
• 1:14:28
  I give myself the ick from them and then I'm good clean guys.
• 1:14:32
  I think it depends like that's The thing is because it like did
• 1:14:36
  the person break up with them or did they break up with?
• 1:14:39
  Yeah, there's a lot of new. Ones, you know, there's a lot
• 1:14:41
  of, like, little things. So I think when you're getting
• 1:14:43
  over someone, focusing on yourself is really the best
• 1:14:47
  thing you can do because of that person.
• 1:14:49
  And this actually goes for the last question as well.
• 1:14:50
  If the person is supposed to come back into your life, I
• 1:14:52
  really, truly believe that they will.
• 1:14:54
  Me too. And it'll happen organically.
• 1:14:57
  But sometimes it also takes time to get over someone if you were
• 1:15:00
  really in love with them. Like my pass X took me.
• 1:15:03
  Not the toxic one we talked about earlier, but like the most
• 1:15:06
  recent one. Yeah.
• 1:15:07
  Took me a really long time, like years.
• 1:15:09
  There were so many things. Yeah.
• 1:15:10
  Because I didn't date anyone. I haven't dated anyone for
• 1:15:12
  years. So it's like, you know.
• 1:15:14
  Yeah, I think it really does come down to like where you are
• 1:15:17
  in your life too. Like there's no rush bestie
• 1:15:20
  either with moving on. It really is your situation and
• 1:15:22
  you know it better than yourself.
• 1:15:23
  And I would honestly just say don't apply pressures to
• 1:15:26
  yourself to move on either. Like give it time.
• 1:15:28
  It's a healing process and it's a process.
• 1:15:30
  It's a journey. And every, every day is a new
• 1:15:32
  step forward to that. So I just wouldn't rush yourself
• 1:15:35
  if you're trying to move on. I think that's the best thing
• 1:15:36
  you could do. You shouldn't try to force
• 1:15:38
  yourself to move on either. Like I can see where you're
• 1:15:39
  coming from. But yeah, give it time.
• 1:15:42
  Take your time with it. It's what I think that's a good
• 1:15:45
  one too. I'm on a roll.
• 1:15:46
  You're on a roll, yeah. Well, I think I started a
• 1:15:48
  little. I started on that one a little
• 1:15:50
  week. I was like, give yourself the IT
• 1:15:51
  girl. But yeah, give yourself time is
• 1:15:53
  what we're going to go with. So we have another one.
• 1:15:57
  This is from another anonymous bestie.
• 1:15:59
  Should I believe in the signs that I see?
• 1:16:01
  Yes, Same. Immediate yes.
• 1:16:03
  Immediate, yes. And especially because
• 1:16:05
  intuitively, you know, like you'll, you'll know if you're
• 1:16:07
  reaching, like if you're seeing something random and you're
• 1:16:10
  like, oh, that's this. But if you do feel that, then
• 1:16:12
  yes, it is. And you know, what I would say
• 1:16:14
  too, is not to share it with everyone because they're not
• 1:16:16
  going to relate to those signs as much as you do.
• 1:16:18
  And so that could water it down for you or like take away the
• 1:16:22
  validity, but if you feel like something is a sign 1,000,000%
• 1:16:25
  it is. That's really good advice about
• 1:16:26
  not telling people. I've never even considered that.
• 1:16:28
  Yeah, they're not. Gonna get it the way you do and
• 1:16:30
  if and. Then they'll question it, and
• 1:16:31
  then, and then you're gonna feel less about it.
• 1:16:33
  And they don't get as excited. And that, like, makes me sad.
• 1:16:35
  I'm like, hello, like, jump, jump up and down.
• 1:16:38
  Come on. Absolutely.
• 1:16:39
  I'm jumping up and down. I just saw that sign.
• 1:16:42
  I absolutely believe in signs, besties.
• 1:16:44
  I think the universe gives you signs for a reason, like if you
• 1:16:46
  need the reassurance, if you need a reminder, if you need
• 1:16:49
  some sort of affirmation that things are happier working out.
• 1:16:51
  Because I actually think a lot of people look at
• 1:16:54
  synchronicities of signs and look at people were like, oh,
• 1:16:56
  people are so delulu derogatory and like silly about it.
• 1:16:59
  But really what I always say is like, if it gives you
• 1:17:02
  reassurance, then believe it. Absolutely.
• 1:17:04
  And synchronicities come in when you are aligned vibrationally.
• 1:17:07
  So it's like. That's why.
• 1:17:08
  You notice it. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:17:10
  Believe in the signs. Absolutely.
• 1:17:11
  Like. And it doesn't matter if it's
• 1:17:13
  silly, if it feels silly, if it means something to you, it means
• 1:17:15
  something to you. Absolutely.
• 1:17:17
  I'm on a roll. Mic drop.
• 1:17:19
  I kind of we're going to play back the other WWADGS and
• 1:17:22
  they're not OK so this is our last one.
• 1:17:27
  So what would a dululu GRL do? Should I take him back if he
• 1:17:31
  cheated on me before a vacation moment?
• 1:17:36
  Listen, my I couldn't. That would be a hard no.
• 1:17:41
  But again, it really depends. Like, did this person go through
• 1:17:46
  a huge, massive growth period, period?
• 1:17:48
  Do they really do the work on themselves?
• 1:17:50
  Yeah. Are they like transforming up
• 1:17:53
  and down, inside out? Most likely, in most cases that
• 1:17:56
  is a no. Realistic Lulu.
• 1:17:59
  But if they really did the work on themselves and, and it's
• 1:18:02
  probably not going to happen in a week or a month even like
• 1:18:05
  they, you know, then. But that's a tough one because
• 1:18:09
  it's hard. Trust is the hardest thing to
• 1:18:11
  build. And once you break it, can you
• 1:18:13
  trust? So you would never take back
• 1:18:15
  anyone who's cheated on? You.
• 1:18:16
  I can't say never, but I haven't OK to this day and especially.
• 1:18:19
  Because have you been cheated on?
• 1:18:21
  Yes, that toxic person I was talking about, it was awful.
• 1:18:24
  Oh no. Were you one of the girls going
• 1:18:26
  through the breakups in Vacation?
• 1:18:28
  Yes. So for GRL lore besties, when
• 1:18:32
  Vacation was being recorded, three of the girly worries in
• 1:18:35
  GRL and Natasha being one of them were actually going through
• 1:18:38
  a breakup. I believe it was Lauren as well.
• 1:18:40
  Yeah, I set off the dominoes and it was like all of a sudden
• 1:18:43
  everybody was going through breakups, which was perfect
• 1:18:45
  because then we got to sing our song and mean every word of it.
• 1:18:47
  Oh absolutely. Y'all were on vacation that
• 1:18:50
  night. Absolutely.
• 1:18:51
  OK well everyone stream Vacation by GRL Co written by Bonnie
• 1:18:54
  McKee. Incredible song.
• 1:18:56
  And was that Max too? So fun.
• 1:18:59
  Incredible song. It's fun.
• 1:19:01
  Breakup song, if you will. That's what Emily says, Yeah.
• 1:19:05
  OK well I think this is bad advice and I actually
• 1:19:08
  acknowledge this but I feel like I should be honest and
• 1:19:10
  transparent. Yes I think it would take back
• 1:19:13
  someone who cheated on me but I think it's cuz I have low self
• 1:19:15
  esteem and that's me acknowledging that I think I
• 1:19:17
  have low self esteem. So I feel like I'd be like,
• 1:19:18
  well, I don't blame them. Ryan Oh my God.
• 1:19:25
  But each step, I love you. Oh my God.
• 1:19:29
  That's so silly. Thank you.
• 1:19:30
  Well, yeah, I mean, I think I'm everything.
• 1:19:32
  I really think I'm everything I really do.
• 1:19:34
  But also I don't know, I guess like relationship Lulu for me
• 1:19:37
  I'm like. Does it depend on who the person
• 1:19:40
  is though? I mean, if they suck, then it's
• 1:19:44
  fine. If it's someone like I don't
• 1:19:45
  know, actually, I wouldn't know. I've never been in that
• 1:19:47
  situation. I've never been in that
• 1:19:48
  situation. It's a hypothetical for me.
• 1:19:50
  So that's what me thinks. OK, that's fair.
• 1:19:54
  Yeah, I think it's, it's individualized.
• 1:19:56
  If you can really get over it and really grow through it and
• 1:19:58
  you really believe the other person's done their work, then.
• 1:20:01
  You know what? I.
• 1:20:02
  That makes sense I. Think with me, I get really
• 1:20:04
  obsessive. So I think I'd just be, I'd
• 1:20:06
  probably be if I'm at that point in a relationship with them, I'd
• 1:20:08
  probably be really obsessive about them.
• 1:20:10
  And then I think I'd be like, no, I'd do anything to say like
• 1:20:12
  view of you. And then maybe I'll even
• 1:20:14
  understand. Well, but then that's then
• 1:20:16
  that's your truth and that's OK. Daniel, that's crazy.
• 1:20:20
  Bestie Lulu's. Honestly as a BFF to you I don't
• 1:20:23
  I think you should take back anyone cheat on you just are so
• 1:20:25
  much better than that and honestly I do too so hopefully
• 1:20:28
  that never happens though. OK well that was www.adg we
• 1:20:32
  started really strong. I feel like I ended it with
• 1:20:35
  like. The saddest thing?
• 1:20:35
  Really good you. Think so?
• 1:20:37
  OK, and at least anyone can know you're getting the real Lulu
• 1:20:42
  here. Plus you're giving different
• 1:20:43
  perspectives. That's what I like about that
• 1:20:45
  game. And being transparent.
• 1:20:46
  Yes, that's what I like about that game.
• 1:20:48
  Well, Natasha, I want to get into the T Lulu here with you on
• 1:20:53
  Tululu. So you have obviously been in
• 1:20:56
  the entertainment industry. You have done everything under
• 1:20:58
  the sun in the entertainment industry.
• 1:21:01
  I know you know some shit. And I want to ask you if you
• 1:21:05
  have any, any hot Goss, anything you want to share, any, anything
• 1:21:09
  on your mind? I don't, Yeah.
• 1:21:11
  Is that so boring? No, I.
• 1:21:12
  Really don't. And you know what's?
• 1:21:14
  That's interesting because you've been in it for a.
• 1:21:15
  While and I feel like if someone were to be like, what are you
• 1:21:18
  talking about? There's this, there's that and
• 1:21:20
  I'd be like, Oh yeah, but I maybe I'm a little bit, I don't
• 1:21:23
  have anything. Maybe I'm numb to it.
• 1:21:25
  I don't. Know them?
• 1:21:26
  I have a list. Do you?
• 1:21:27
  I mean, maybe I just, I don't have anything that's coming to
• 1:21:30
  mind. OK, well, actually not anything
• 1:21:33
  current. I do have questions for you that
• 1:21:35
  aren't any any hot Goss or anything Scandi just T Lulu I
• 1:21:38
  want to know great from GRL Natasha Slayton herself.
• 1:21:42
  OK, so who's your favorite Spice Girl?
• 1:21:46
  So sporty because she had the powerhouse vocals.
• 1:21:49
  She was always my favorite and I love them all.
• 1:21:51
  Yeah, and you're so into the powerhouse vocals you're
• 1:21:54
  inspired by early Mariah. Absolutely.
• 1:21:56
  And sporty spice. For real, she was.
• 1:21:58
  My favorite Christina. Absolutely.
• 1:21:59
  And all of the peeps. Yeah, all.
• 1:22:02
  The Divas with the voice. Yeah, at a James, Aretha,
• 1:22:04
  Whitney, everybody Big ones. But what's interesting is I feel
• 1:22:09
  like I keep saying what's interesting and it's.
• 1:22:11
  All interesting. It's all interesting.
• 1:22:13
  But the girls would call me Posh Spice and I'm totally Posh.
• 1:22:18
  Definitely Posh Spice, definitely, that's for sure.
• 1:22:20
  You are especially girly GRL. You are girly GRL in GRL.
• 1:22:24
  Yeah, girly girl. Girly girl, yes, I so see that
• 1:22:28
  you're so unicorns and rainbows and bubbles and.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah, and I'm not a sporty girl at all, but unless you count
• 1:22:34
  like dance and stuff. But I.
• 1:22:36
  Love and that is pretty sporty. That's that's sporty and the
• 1:22:39
  dance that you do to like your pole dancing is very sporty.
• 1:22:43
  Yeah, it takes so much strength and like sporty weightlifting
• 1:22:46
  and Stairmaster and all that stuff.
• 1:22:47
  So you're a sporty spice. I guess so.
• 1:22:49
  Just just no balls, nothing flying at my face.
• 1:22:52
  That's that clueless line. I don't know.
• 1:22:54
  I haven't seen clueless. What?
• 1:22:56
  I'm gonna have to watch it right after that.
• 1:22:57
  Wait. Never.
• 1:22:59
  Never. Yeah, Brett told me it's for, so
• 1:23:02
  that's why I've never seen. That is not allowed on the show.
• 1:23:05
  What? Sorry, I had a sneak on.
• 1:23:12
  I had a sneak on for you. You have to see clueless.
• 1:23:16
  I'm going to see Clueless. OK?
• 1:23:17
  Can we watch it together? Yes.
• 1:23:19
  Do you love it? Yes.
• 1:23:20
  OK, Wait. Oh, I was thinking Legally
• 1:23:22
  Blonde. We have to.
• 1:23:24
  See, clearly you are Legally Blonde because what is that
• 1:23:26
  comment? That's amazing you haven't seen
• 1:23:28
  Legally Blonde. No.
• 1:23:33
  Oh my God, what? Oh my God this is the most like
• 1:23:36
  baffled you've been the entire show.
• 1:23:38
  I'm in shock. I haven't seen any of that.
• 1:23:40
  I know, and it's kind of up my alley.
• 1:23:41
  Have you seen Mean Girls? Yes, I love mean.
• 1:23:44
  Girls don't yes mean like that with you literally haven't seen
• 1:23:47
  the other. Two love Mean Girls, I don't
• 1:23:49
  know why. The other ones I don't know.
• 1:23:51
  Wild. OK, we're gonna watch them
• 1:23:52
  immediately. OK, sleepover.
• 1:23:55
  OK, girls, night. It has to happen.
• 1:23:57
  OK, we're doing it tonight. OK, then I guess we're not
• 1:24:02
  watching it. No.
• 1:24:02
  It's happening. OK, it's happening, it's
• 1:24:04
  happening. OK, So I want to know.
• 1:24:07
  I'm so excited about this question because I want to
• 1:24:08
  answer it, OK. What's your favorite GRL song?
• 1:24:13
  That's such a hard question. It's hard, right?
• 1:24:15
  I have so many for different reasons.
• 1:24:17
  OK. Can you give?
• 1:24:18
  Us so. I want to know so bad.
• 1:24:20
  OK, this is so hard. I'm going to name like all of
• 1:24:24
  them. OK, I'll start.
• 1:24:25
  I'm literally going to name all of them.
• 1:24:27
  You should. I can name all of them right
• 1:24:28
  now. So when we were recording, I
• 1:24:29
  think Girls Are Always Right was like my fave.
• 1:24:31
  The second I heard that, it had such a nostalgic like late 90s,
• 1:24:34
  early 2000s feeling to it. So I immediately love that.
• 1:24:36
  Plus I love things with like a little bit of an R&B feel.
• 1:24:39
  But show me what you got Also had that Rewind also really had
• 1:24:42
  that Rewind was my favorite to perform because the dance just
• 1:24:44
  felt so good in my body. But then Ugly Heart, which is
• 1:24:47
  our biggest song, and it just gives Simone all of her flowers.
• 1:24:51
  And so I just love that song so much for all that it is and all
• 1:24:54
  that it was for all of us. And then Lighthouse, because of
• 1:24:59
  the depth of that song and how much that honors Simone.
• 1:25:02
  And then? These are all my favorites.
• 1:25:04
  I mean like. I'm literally, but I also like
• 1:25:06
  all the other ones that I didn't mention.
• 1:25:08
  Yeah. So, yeah.
• 1:25:09
  I love all of those You actually nailed like probably all of my
• 1:25:13
  favorites. I love lighthouse so so, so so
• 1:25:15
  much. It moves me every single time.
• 1:25:17
  And I think my favorite is show me what you got I.
• 1:25:21
  Love that song. It's you know, Max is singing
• 1:25:23
  that. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:25:26
  You told me that. That's T Lulu that you told me
• 1:25:28
  before someone listened to it. And Emmalin.
• 1:25:29
  Emmalin's singing. It was mixed in.
• 1:25:31
  Right. Yeah, it was so good.
• 1:25:33
  And there are so many incredible Giro songs that were
• 1:25:36
  unfortunately not even release that are also favorites like.
• 1:25:39
  Oh, like I. Fan favorite like I do.
• 1:25:42
  That is probably all of our favorites only because we never
• 1:25:45
  got to release it and it's such a strong song.
• 1:25:47
  Can you talk to us about like I do?
• 1:25:51
  I think Max did it right. Max did it.
• 1:25:53
  Max did it, Max Martin did like I do.
• 1:25:54
  It's an unreleased GRO gem and can you talk to us about
• 1:26:00
  recording that song and it never made the EP?
• 1:26:02
  It never made the EP because of, you know, everything that
• 1:26:05
  happened. And so we it was just one of the
• 1:26:08
  last things that we recorded. It was the last thing we
• 1:26:10
  recorded as a five piece, as a five piece.
• 1:26:12
  So it just never came out. It wasn't supposed to be on the
• 1:26:14
  EP. It was supposed to come out
• 1:26:15
  after because we were working on songs to release a Believe a
• 1:26:18
  full length. Right.
• 1:26:19
  So when you were when the EP came out and you guys were
• 1:26:23
  actively working on an album, right?
• 1:26:26
  And like I Do was meant for the album.
• 1:26:27
  Yeah, as far as I remember. My gosh.
• 1:26:29
  And then what about the other songs that were happening during
• 1:26:31
  that time? Well, we had two songs that I
• 1:26:34
  don't think did make the cut, but I loved them.
• 1:26:37
  Yeah. Want Forever and Turn Up The
• 1:26:39
  Radio Obsessed. And then we had a couple of
• 1:26:44
  other songs that we recorded at that time too that never came
• 1:26:46
  out that were also really good. Where?
• 1:26:49
  Are these songs now I? Don't know.
• 1:26:50
  It's like there's so there's so much political stuff that goes
• 1:26:54
  on. Yeah, it's a business.
• 1:26:56
  Yeah, And there's, like, writers and producers and, you know,
• 1:26:59
  this person belongs to this label and this person belongs to
• 1:27:01
  that label and just, you know, so many different factors that
• 1:27:04
  come into play. And then with the recent songs,
• 1:27:05
  we just didn't have the budget to actually release them.
• 1:27:09
  And there's just so much. Oh my gosh, the the world needs
• 1:27:13
  this. The the GRO music that hasn't
• 1:27:16
  come out. But like, I do like so good.
• 1:27:19
  It's so, so, so incredible. Yeah, I forgot I played that.
• 1:27:21
  She also played it for me secretly.
• 1:27:27
  Yeah, it was so good. I'm really good about not
• 1:27:30
  leaking things. Yeah, I don't have no idea how
• 1:27:33
  that one, it was like the finished version or any.
• 1:27:37
  I have no idea how that came out.
• 1:27:38
  And then all the other unreleased music from GRO and
• 1:27:41
  the GRO revival that is also unreleased.
• 1:27:43
  Like we're still manifesting that that all comes.
• 1:27:45
  I hope so, yeah. Because that's what we didn't
• 1:27:47
  have the budget to release at first, which I don't know, Like
• 1:27:49
  I'm not really supposed to say that we didn't have the budget,
• 1:27:52
  but that's the truth. Well, we're going to work on
• 1:27:54
  that because we're going to manifest being, you know, able
• 1:27:57
  to do whatever projects we want to do with no constraints.
• 1:28:00
  That's that's where I'm coming from.
• 1:28:01
  You know what I was going to say initially, guys?
• 1:28:02
  And this is what I learned through the show.
• 1:28:04
  My ego was going to we're gonna manifesting being billionaires.
• 1:28:06
  But then I changed it because it's like I want to be open.
• 1:28:08
  So I said we're gonna be able to do the projects we want to do
• 1:28:10
  with no constraints. Yeah, there we go and watch it
• 1:28:13
  happen now. And we will be streaming the new
• 1:28:15
  GRO music. So this is kind of along the
• 1:28:17
  lines of what we already talked about a little bit, but you
• 1:28:20
  would be so down for a GRO revival.
• 1:28:22
  Absolutely. And the other girls 1. 1000% I
• 1:28:25
  think so, yeah. I don't see why not.
• 1:28:27
  We got to make it happen. OK, I'm manifesting it.
• 1:28:29
  I'm a start in my next manifestation journal because
• 1:28:31
  the first time I did it, it did happen.
• 1:28:34
  That's true. Robin literally just sent me a
• 1:28:36
  voice note about she's like, let's do it.
• 1:28:38
  I'm like Rob, hello, I've told you I'm so down.
• 1:28:41
  Like what do you mean? Robin, I'm on board, yes.
• 1:28:45
  But Paula took her class and sort of teased that there was
• 1:28:47
  going to be a GRO reunion. I'm like, what are you saying to
• 1:28:49
  these fans? They're going to get so hyped.
• 1:28:51
  I don't even know about this. I am getting highs right now on
• 1:28:53
  camera. What do you mean?
• 1:28:54
  Paula don't play with us. She's a Gemini though, so we'll
• 1:28:57
  take it. We'll take them a grain of salt,
• 1:28:59
  but we would love. We would all be.
• 1:29:01
  So fun. And then?
• 1:29:02
  OK well my last T Lulu question for you is how far along was
• 1:29:06
  this GRL album? So we was the first original 5
• 1:29:09
  songs on the GRL EP Ugly Heart. Show me what You got.
• 1:29:12
  Rewind Girls are Always Right and don't Talk about Love.
• 1:29:15
  Were they all going to be on the album as.
• 1:29:16
  Well, I think so. They should.
• 1:29:19
  I imagine that that yeah, that was just like the EP and that
• 1:29:21
  they were also going to be on the album and that we would have
• 1:29:23
  had, I guess, maybe double the amount of songs or I'm.
• 1:29:26
  Not sure we have a tea Lulu question for you.
• 1:29:29
  So during that time period, you know, you had management and you
• 1:29:32
  had a lot of people, a lot of cooks in the kitchen.
• 1:29:34
  Kind of like telling y'all what to do and you know where to go
• 1:29:37
  and what you know, you're hitting your marks, right?
• 1:29:39
  What was that experience like? Just being like directed, you
• 1:29:42
  know, the entire time? I mean, as far as being
• 1:29:46
  directed, I think that was more to do with like maybe the
• 1:29:49
  choreography and stage direction and things like that.
• 1:29:51
  But we did have our own say with like how we felt about certain
• 1:29:56
  things. I think the thing that we had
• 1:29:58
  the least amount of say in was like the music we were
• 1:30:00
  recording. But they always made sure we
• 1:30:02
  liked it. OK, But there were so.
• 1:30:03
  If there's anything you hated, they would be flexible if.
• 1:30:06
  You know, 100% there was nothing we hated like they were really
• 1:30:08
  good at, like bringing. It made sense.
• 1:30:10
  The music that made sense, yeah, that they knew it was us.
• 1:30:14
  But I mean OK Robin is a really close friend now but we
• 1:30:20
  definitely collided at the beginning.
• 1:30:23
  Like it was always a love hate relationship with shadow Robin.
• 1:30:26
  She'll she. Hi, Robin.
• 1:30:27
  You know, I was in a different place and she was definitely in
• 1:30:30
  a different place for sure. So that was difficult at times.
• 1:30:35
  And it's interesting because now you guys are the other thing.
• 1:30:38
  It's interesting again. It is.
• 1:30:39
  That is genuinely interesting. This is all interesting.
• 1:30:41
  Because, you know, I had an idea of, like, what I wanted to look
• 1:30:45
  like in the kind of clothes I wanted to wear and the kind of
• 1:30:47
  image I wanted to have. And she really had that image in
• 1:30:49
  her mind as well. So I think more of my pushback
• 1:30:52
  probably came from a fear of like, maybe they don't see, you
• 1:30:55
  know, who I'm wanting to be. And I don't want to be molded
• 1:30:57
  into something. And there was a long time where
• 1:30:59
  she, like, really wanted me to be a redhead.
• 1:31:00
  And I was like, I'm not going to be a redhead Robin.
• 1:31:03
  I am brunette. And that could have worked, but
• 1:31:05
  it just didn't feel right. So like things like that where I
• 1:31:07
  was like, no. That is insane and I was not.
• 1:31:10
  Afraid to say no, I was never afraid to say.
• 1:31:12
  No, I'm also really not afraid to say no.
• 1:31:15
  But good. I'm glad that you really
• 1:31:16
  advocated for yourself. Yeah.
• 1:31:17
  I can't even imagine you as a redhead.
• 1:31:19
  I mean, you had looked incredible.
• 1:31:20
  Of course. Thank you.
• 1:31:20
  But you're you're you're a brunette.
• 1:31:22
  You know it. Was more so when Natalie was in
• 1:31:24
  the group because she was already known to a lot of the
• 1:31:27
  fan base and she was a brunette. So that was.
• 1:31:29
  Before GRL when it was PCD. Well, you know what?
• 1:31:31
  We're going to do a little rewind right now, which by the
• 1:31:34
  way, is a GRO reference. It's on the EP, but we're going
• 1:31:37
  to do a quick little rewind. I have a fun fact, Lulu, about
• 1:31:40
  this GRO lore, and I think it'd be interesting to talk about.
• 1:31:44
  But when you were originally in PCD 2 point O and it
• 1:31:48
  transitioned to GRO, you've actually talked about how you
• 1:31:51
  cry. You did not want to do it.
• 1:31:53
  You did not want to do it. You wanted to do PCD 2 point O.
• 1:31:57
  It's it turned out so much better in retrospect for us.
• 1:32:00
  Like we got to be our a brand new thing and we got to also
• 1:32:03
  like bring in some of that like Spice Girl energy, which is
• 1:32:06
  really, you know, part of the energy that we were cultivating.
• 1:32:09
  Yeah. And we still got to have, of
• 1:32:12
  course, some of that put together all sexiness.
• 1:32:14
  But because I was so like, I loved like, the R&B and the
• 1:32:19
  sexiness at that time and like, it just felt very me.
• 1:32:23
  Yeah. But then I can't deny that GRL
• 1:32:25
  was me as well. So it's like, but when they told
• 1:32:28
  us they were like changing the name and doing all this and.
• 1:32:30
  And I was a little bit overwhelmed at the news, but
• 1:32:33
  quickly it became a positive thing.
• 1:32:35
  I mean, it ended up being a cultural phenomenon and I feel
• 1:32:37
  like with, you know, Pussycat Dolls 2 point O, it just would
• 1:32:40
  have been another iteration of what was redone.
• 1:32:43
  Yeah, we can't redo that, and The Pussycat Dolls were so epic
• 1:32:45
  and iconic and definitely deserved to stand on their own.
• 1:32:48
  And if there ever is a PCD 2.0, because again, never say never,
• 1:32:52
  I'm sure that'll be amazing as well.
• 1:32:54
  Yeah, the whole idea behind it was how they had the weed, like
• 1:32:59
  the live burlesque shows, and how those lead singers would
• 1:33:02
  always change and like everything was always moving and
• 1:33:05
  flowing. So she kind of wanted to do the
• 1:33:06
  same thing and keep it alive with the groups and not
• 1:33:08
  necessarily make it the same thing, but just be able to keep
• 1:33:12
  it going would. All 5 girls be the lead in PCD 2
• 1:33:16
  point O it. Would have been the same as with
• 1:33:17
  GRL. OK, it just would have been
• 1:33:19
  under the branding of Pussycats Dolls.
• 1:33:21
  Got it. OK, well now you reflect on that
• 1:33:24
  and it's like it happened exactly how it was.
• 1:33:27
  Totally, Totally, totally, totally.
• 1:33:28
  Yeah, Yeah. And then Gerald was such a
• 1:33:29
  bright bubbly. It was just fun, like energetic.
• 1:33:32
  Young, it was everything it needed to be.
• 1:33:34
  It it definitely was and you brought the right energy to it.
• 1:33:37
  Thank you. So we talked a lot about your
• 1:33:38
  delulu throughout the show and you have been the OG delulu.
• 1:33:43
  You've been delulu since you're very, very.
• 1:33:44
  Young. Me too girl.
• 1:33:47
  So I wanted to talk to you about your most delulu take.
• 1:33:51
  I know you got them. I have so many and I think, you
• 1:33:53
  know, I don't necessarily think you're going to think I'm
• 1:33:55
  delulu, and I don't even think your listeners will.
• 1:33:57
  I just think day-to-day I've always believed in magic.
• 1:34:01
  You know, everything is energy. And so I think from a young age,
• 1:34:05
  just knowing that that was real and believing that was real when
• 1:34:09
  I come into contact with most people, that's not necessarily.
• 1:34:12
  They're not always going to see eye to eye, Yeah.
• 1:34:14
  So to them I might seem to Lulu. I mean, I also have this
• 1:34:18
  feeling, 'cause I watch so many monster movies in so much
• 1:34:20
  Twilight Zone and Outer Limits when I was younger, that if I'm
• 1:34:22
  in the deep end of a pool or any part of the pool, that it's
• 1:34:24
  gonna open up to another dimension and monsters are gonna
• 1:34:27
  come out and eat me. I hate water I don't even want.
• 1:34:29
  To get in water? Totally possible.
• 1:34:31
  I mean, it is possible like absolutely.
• 1:34:33
  That's not delulu at all. And I think.
• 1:34:35
  Juicy. It didn't help that like my dad
• 1:34:36
  had a huge life-size creature from the Black Lagoon statue.
• 1:34:39
  He's obsessed with Monster. That's horrifying.
• 1:34:41
  So actually, I mean, I felt protected by the creature, I'm
• 1:34:44
  not gonna lie. That one's delulu.
• 1:34:46
  I think that one's delulu. He's sweet, you know, it's fine.
• 1:34:50
  No, But so, yeah, I always think there's something going to be
• 1:34:51
  something that grabs me, even in a pool.
• 1:34:53
  OK, but I'm also the girl that wears Moldavite and his estulate
• 1:34:57
  taped to her third eye some nights for a spiritual expansion
• 1:35:00
  when I sleep and that I don't think that's delulu.
• 1:35:03
  Delulu at all. I don't think any of us are
• 1:35:05
  gonna think that's delulu. I will say I'm being comforted
• 1:35:07
  by the Black Lagoon Monster is a little delulu to me.
• 1:35:11
  I'll take that one. He's strong, you know, scares
• 1:35:14
  off the bad guys. OK, well, I need him then,
• 1:35:15
  because obviously, yeah, I wouldn't mind that energy in my
• 1:35:19
  life. So you know what?
• 1:35:19
  I take it back. I'm happy being delulu, it's
• 1:35:21
  fine. Me too.
• 1:35:22
  I love being delulu. It's like why?
• 1:35:24
  I think it's why I'm so positive.
• 1:35:25
  Everyone who's asked me like why are you so positive?
• 1:35:27
  First, I'm faking it. And two, I do.
• 1:35:31
  It's because, yeah, I like living in my own little world,
• 1:35:33
  you know what I mean? So.
• 1:35:35
  And then I'd rather just be, you know, I'd rather be focusing on
• 1:35:38
  the positive things in life. Yeah, that's so important, but
• 1:35:40
  it's also important not to not that you're doing this, but you
• 1:35:43
  know, not to spiritually bypass or bypass any of the emotions
• 1:35:46
  that might come up or the things that so we'd.
• 1:35:48
  Feel what you need to feel them, absolutely.
• 1:35:50
  And we acknowledge them and then, and then we can try to.
• 1:35:53
  And be a. Dreamer.
• 1:35:54
  Yeah, totally. Always be a dreamer.
• 1:35:56
  I love that. So honestly, yeah, you're right.
• 1:35:58
  I don't think any of that felt that delulu to me, but I can see
• 1:36:01
  how maybe, yeah. Unless you got anything wild.
• 1:36:06
  Have I ever shared anything that's like very delulu?
• 1:36:09
  No, because I believe everything that you tell me really
• 1:36:11
  strongly. But I'm quite delulu myself so.
• 1:36:14
  Like I believe in mermaids and fairies, I just think that I'm
• 1:36:17
  not getting on the frequency that they're on in order to see
• 1:36:19
  them A. 100%, I have a little TV show I'm doing with mermaids
• 1:36:23
  soon. They're mermaid twins.
• 1:36:25
  Their names are Olivia and Anita, and it's gonna be a cute
• 1:36:29
  little thing. I'm gonna do a sync with
• 1:36:30
  Netflix, OK? I have little toys and dolls of
• 1:36:32
  them, too. What?
• 1:36:34
  Yeah. I'll show you later.
• 1:36:35
  OK. OK.
• 1:36:36
  Yay. You're gonna support that show?
• 1:36:38
  Yeah. The Lulu OK do you believe that
• 1:36:40
  inanimate objects have feelings? Because like, I if this bear was
• 1:36:44
  like sitting by itself, I would cry, OK?
• 1:36:47
  Like, I would be so sad. Or like, if plants are neglected
• 1:36:50
  at a store and you, I will cry. You have to buy that plant.
• 1:36:55
  That dying plant is so sad. Are you kidding?
• 1:36:57
  Or like, I'm really nice to my objects.
• 1:36:59
  Like if I run into my trash can accidentally I'm like I'm so
• 1:37:01
  sorry. Really.
• 1:37:02
  Because you want to respect your space, and it's still all
• 1:37:04
  energy, and it still carries a signature of.
• 1:37:06
  When you explain it like that, I'm on board, but I don't know
• 1:37:10
  because then oh, sorry, see. See, he just apologized to the
• 1:37:15
  microphone. OK.
• 1:37:16
  For context, Lulu, it's because Brett doesn't like it when I hit
• 1:37:18
  it. So I was apologizing.
• 1:37:20
  I was apologizing to editing Brett.
• 1:37:22
  In the future, OK, fair enough. But also, sorry, microphone I.
• 1:37:26
  Projected. It's OK.
• 1:37:28
  It's OK. I wanted to clarify Lulu that,
• 1:37:30
  but with the teddy bear. Lulu, he was sitting there
• 1:37:34
  waiting for you. What?
• 1:37:35
  Yeah. He's so soft.
• 1:37:37
  Isn't he cool? Yeah, he's.
• 1:37:38
  Good. I've been petting him this whole
• 1:37:39
  time and probably just like. I know we need to put, we need
• 1:37:43
  to put out for the Hulu besties. Oh, his hair is all over me.
• 1:37:46
  OK, if you guys see that I'm covered in fuzz in the video,
• 1:37:49
  it's Lulu. It's Lulu.
• 1:37:50
  It's Lulu. OK, so we're going to play
• 1:37:53
  another game. Oh my gosh.
• 1:37:54
  OK. Yeah, this one's fun.
• 1:37:55
  This one's going to be a quick fire one.
• 1:37:57
  OK, so we're going to play a game of claim or rebuke, OK,
• 1:38:00
  claim being you accept and rebuke being you reject.
• 1:38:03
  You don't want that. Strong words.
• 1:38:05
  Strong words. So really.
• 1:38:06
  You feel strongly. Feel strongly about these.
• 1:38:08
  I got I got 4 for you. OK.
• 1:38:11
  Strongly about all of these. So Are you ready?
• 1:38:13
  Yeah. Are we claiming or rebuking boy
• 1:38:15
  bands? Oh my gosh, claiming.
• 1:38:17
  What's your favorite boy band? Insync.
• 1:38:19
  Really. Yeah, I think mine's One
• 1:38:21
  Direction. OK, that, I mean you're younger
• 1:38:23
  than me, so that's. The only one I know actually.
• 1:38:25
  Are there other boy bands? You don't know In Sync or
• 1:38:27
  Backstreet Boys. I'm aware of them.
• 1:38:30
  Wow. By the way, Max Martin did also
• 1:38:31
  do music for both of them. Yeah, there you go.
• 1:38:34
  That's how I know them. I'm a big Max.
• 1:38:36
  Martin, that was my time back in my day.
• 1:38:38
  Oh my God, it's you're not even that much older than me.
• 1:38:40
  You could trust me. OK so I I'm also claiming boy
• 1:38:43
  bands to be honest. Absolutely, I love them all.
• 1:38:45
  OK, are we claiming or rebuking touring again?
• 1:38:48
  Oh, claiming, claiming that was so.
• 1:38:49
  Fun. I also really want a tour.
• 1:38:50
  Yeah, I'm claiming that one. Really heavy.
• 1:38:52
  That would be so fun. How was the clearest tour?
• 1:38:55
  Oh no. What's T Lulu?
• 1:38:57
  What's T Lulu? The T is that we just, we didn't
• 1:38:59
  really get to perform. We performed like twice on that
• 1:39:01
  tour and. It was more like a meeting.
• 1:39:04
  Loose hair is literally all over me.
• 1:39:06
  I see it flying everywhere. Flying.
• 1:39:08
  Everywhere I I saw that it was, it was more like a mall meet and
• 1:39:11
  greet. Yeah, there were a lot of mall
• 1:39:12
  meet and greets and so I think, you know, the the bus wasn't
• 1:39:15
  like it was cool. It was cool on the outside.
• 1:39:18
  I mean, you guys see your big ass versions of yourself, yeah?
• 1:39:20
  It was really, it was really awesome.
• 1:39:22
  OK, wait, I don't want to seem ungrateful.
• 1:39:23
  It was. Really.
• 1:39:24
  Cool, you're allowed to be on top.
• 1:39:25
  Also, we didn't get to record or I'm sorry, we didn't get to tour
• 1:39:29
  that much. OK, Oh my.
• 1:39:30
  God no. What am I saying?
• 1:39:32
  You toured in Australia as well, Yeah?
• 1:39:34
  We didn't get to perform. OK, yeah.
• 1:39:36
  And then but then now moving on to like the All About That Bass
• 1:39:39
  Tour when you open for Meghan Trainer.
• 1:39:40
  That was so fun. That looks incredible, that.
• 1:39:42
  Was really fun, but we only had a few shows.
• 1:39:44
  Yeah, so. When the Australian fans are so
• 1:39:47
  massive of GRL and I'm sure they're watching this right now.
• 1:39:50
  Yeah OK. Are we claiming or rebuking a
• 1:39:54
  GRL revival? Claim, Claim.
• 1:39:56
  Claim. Claiming hard, yeah.
• 1:39:58
  It's meant to be claim. Oh, it's meant to be.
• 1:40:00
  It's meant to be. It's meant to be.
• 1:40:01
  It's meant to be. It's happening.
• 1:40:03
  OK. Or are we claiming rebuking
• 1:40:06
  joining an entirely New Girl group?
• 1:40:09
  No rebuke, review. It just wouldn't feel right.
• 1:40:12
  I get that hearts. With GRL.
• 1:40:14
  Absolutely. Yeah, and they could be amazing,
• 1:40:16
  but yeah, OK. I mean, never say never, right?
• 1:40:20
  But yeah, it's safe to say rebuke.
• 1:40:22
  OK, I think rebuke too. Strong word, but.
• 1:40:24
  I'm rebuking that you will join another one.
• 1:40:26
  I feel like what's happening. I feel like my identity just got
• 1:40:29
  split. Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
• 1:40:30
  OK, that's fair for me. OK, that was fun.
• 1:40:33
  How do you feel about that? Those did I pass.
• 1:40:35
  Well, you did the best you. Did Fair enough.
• 1:40:38
  Yes, you passed, You passed, you passed, you passed.
• 1:40:40
  There was no definite. You didn't pass.
• 1:40:42
  Let's actually talk about that. You need to see you passed that
• 1:40:45
  part of the game. But like, OK, we need to.
• 1:40:47
  Let's get into it, get you into **NSYNC and Backstreet Boys,
• 1:40:50
  Legally Blonde and Clueless. Like right away.
• 1:40:52
  OK, those those are my doses of delulu that we need again too.
• 1:40:56
  OK, I will. I'll start with the the boy band
• 1:40:58
  ones because I can stream those and other ones are movies.
• 1:41:01
  I don't have time for those right now.
• 1:41:02
  You. Know I'll make fair.
• 1:41:03
  No, it's fair. I'll make time.
• 1:41:04
  We'll make time when the timing's right, when it aligns.
• 1:41:07
  Absolutely. We're all about.
• 1:41:09
  Timing. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:41:10
  OK, you passed. It's fine.
• 1:41:11
  OK, good. We restored.
• 1:41:12
  We. I, I I redeemed myself.
• 1:41:14
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:41:15
  I love that. Well, Natasha, this has been
• 1:41:18
  beyond incredible. Love you so much.
• 1:41:20
  Thank you for having me. I'm so proud of you and I'm so
• 1:41:22
  thankful that you guys hung out with me this whole time.
• 1:41:24
  No, this was so much fun. Are you kidding me?
• 1:41:26
  And like everything that you said was so empowering and
• 1:41:28
  insightful and like, I learned so much more about you and I
• 1:41:30
  feel like I know you really well already.
• 1:41:32
  You know me better than I know myself.
• 1:41:33
  And not true the. Truth.
• 1:41:35
  You remember more about me than I remember.
• 1:41:37
  I do remember a lot of things. It's just because I'm from
• 1:41:40
  Georgia. I'm from country like that.
• 1:41:42
  I love it, Georgia, the state. But yeah, so I really appreciate
• 1:41:46
  you being here. And this was really healing for
• 1:41:49
  me, too. I'm honestly taking a lot of
• 1:41:51
  what you said, I'm going to apply it to my life.
• 1:41:53
  I feel like I'm even more grounded.
• 1:41:54
  I'm sad that we're closing the show right now, but that's how I
• 1:41:57
  know I'm a presence in the moment because I'm sad that the
• 1:42:00
  show's closing. But we end every show by
• 1:42:03
  manifesting together. We're going to speak what we
• 1:42:05
  want into existence and the universe is listening and we're
• 1:42:08
  gonna we're gonna have it manifest.
• 1:42:10
  So is there anything right now that you want to manifest?
• 1:42:13
  It could be serious, silly fun, anything you want.
• 1:42:17
  I'll. I'll start.
• 1:42:18
  OK. I'm manifesting A Jaro revival
• 1:42:20
  period. Claiming yeah, I that I set up
• 1:42:23
  the entire show for that one. I.
• 1:42:25
  Knew it. I knew it.
• 1:42:26
  So, Paula, please commit. She's she's in.
• 1:42:29
  She's. In OK, I believe you.
• 1:42:33
  And then I am. I'm manifesting my ability to
• 1:42:39
  continue tuning in with spirit and listening to where I'm being
• 1:42:43
  called. Why are you laughing at me?
• 1:42:44
  No, because there's so much more enlightened and better than
• 1:42:47
  mine. Yeah, I'm trying to, I'm trying
• 1:42:48
  to listen and just, you know, whatever is meant for my highest
• 1:42:50
  good because I don't want to get in the way.
• 1:42:53
  I feel like you already have all that, too, and that's nice.
• 1:42:55
  So we're welcome more of it. Yeah.
• 1:42:56
  Welcome me and more of it, Yeah. You're deeply enlightened.
• 1:42:59
  Like I tell all my besties that you're the most spiritual person
• 1:43:01
  I know. Genuinely.
• 1:43:03
  You're super spiritual and it shows.
• 1:43:05
  It's just how I live. And like my friend Kate, who's a
• 1:43:09
  sound healer, she says. She's part woo woo, part true
• 1:43:11
  true, And she's about to be. Part to Lulu.
• 1:43:15
  I'm on that train. OK, well, can I ask you?
• 1:43:18
  Yeah. Do you feel like this is the
• 1:43:19
  most peaceful you've ever been? In your life?
• 1:43:22
  In my life, yes, absolutely. And it was a quite a journey to
• 1:43:26
  get here. Yeah, and it helps that I've
• 1:43:27
  been on a cleanse for a really long time.
• 1:43:30
  You have. So I feel like.
• 1:43:31
  I'm in all my recent memory you have been on this.
• 1:43:34
  Yeah, it's very, it's been very long.
• 1:43:35
  Yeah, well, you were glowing. So it's working.
• 1:43:38
  I fear it's working. I love you.
• 1:43:40
  Well, I'm manifesting that Gerald reunion.
• 1:43:42
  OK. And we're manifesting staying
• 1:43:45
  closer, a higher self. Yes.
• 1:43:46
  And that's that's beautiful. Honestly, both can exist.
• 1:43:49
  Both can exist. Both can exist.
• 1:43:51
  Well, Natasha, thank you, thank you, thank you SO.
• 1:43:53
  Much for being here, I love you. I love you and besties.
• 1:43:57
  This was your healthy dose of delulu.
• 1:43:58
  So now you can go live your true Lulu.
• 1:44:01
  Natasha, where can the besties find you?
• 1:44:04
  You can find me on Instagram at Natasha Slayton or at Kiss and
• 1:44:08
  Tell by Natasha for lip print readings and Kiss and Tell by
• 1:44:11
  natasha.com also for lip print readings and I guess TikTok
• 1:44:15
  Natasha Slayton with two ends at the end because someone took my
• 1:44:19
  name. Kind of wow because you're the
• 1:44:21
  only Natasha Sly in. I think I might have taken my
• 1:44:23
  name like back when it was. What was it before TikTok?
• 1:44:26
  Musically. Yes, so I don't know but I
• 1:44:29
  couldn't get it. Instagram is regular just I
• 1:44:31
  don't really post on TikTok. It's so bad.
• 1:44:32
  I need to get better but just let's do Instagram.
• 1:44:34
  It's OK, we'll find Natasha on Instagram and besties.
• 1:44:37
  You can also follow GRL at GRL across all platforms as well as
• 1:44:41
  you want to stay updated from when this revival happens
• 1:44:43
  because it's happening. We just spoke into existence on
• 1:44:45
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• 1:45:03
  see new affirmations every morning.
• 1:45:05
  She agreed to it prior to the show.
• 1:45:07
  Oh, that's what. We're going to prerecord and we
• 1:45:11
  will send them. OK, realistic Lulu, but please
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  rate the show. You will get that prerecorded
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