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- 0:00That science, that science is going to be key. Because if
- 0:03we ignore that science and sort of put our head in the sand and think it's all about vegetation
- 0:07management, we're not going to succeed together protecting Californians. That
- 0:11was a clip from a number of years ago, I think it was 2020, where Donald Trump
- 0:15was talking to a panel discussing the wildfires that we're having at that
- 0:19point that were devastating communities within California. Sound
- 0:33familiar? This is the problem with what's happening with
- 0:36wildfires. Climate change is causing things that
- 0:39we cannot control and the Santa Ana fire that's
- 0:43happening in LA right now due to the Santa Ana winds is
- 0:47out of control. And it's really difficult to fight, no matter how
- 0:50much water you have, no matter how many people you have, just because of the
- 0:54speed of the winds and how dry things are. We're gonna talk
- 0:57today, on today's episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast, about why
- 1:00the fires happen, the blame and the myths that are going on, the
- 1:04fact that people are in a very vulnerable position, and what we
- 1:07can do about it. On this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast, let's
- 1:11start the show. Hey,
- 1:16everybody, welcome back to a somber episode of the How to Protect the Ocean
- 1:19podcast. I am your host, Andrew Lewin, and this is the podcast where you find out what's happening with
- 1:22the ocean, how you can speak up for the ocean, and what you can do to live for a
- 1:26better ocean by taking action. And this is an
- 1:29episode that I don't ever want to cover. This is something that is
- 1:33devastating to a number of people in L.A. County, and it's
- 1:37a really difficult pill to swallow for all of us. It's
- 1:41a perfect example, unfortunately, of the devastation that climate change
- 1:45can cause, and we are in the thick of it. This
- 1:49is a problem where there's really not much
- 1:53we can do until these winds of the Santa Ana winds really
- 1:57stops. And it's scary. It is
- 2:01scary. Now, I would love to say that this is a once-in-a-lifetime thing.
- 2:05but this has been predicted for quite some time. And we're gonna talk about it on today's
- 2:08episode because I think it's something that we do need to talk about it. I've
- 2:12done a little bit of research and I wanna talk about a few things of why this
- 2:16happened, the blame and the myths that are going around the
- 2:20fire, as well as, people are in a very vulnerable
- 2:23position. They're getting hurt, they've lost their homes, they've lost their
- 2:26childhood memories, they've lost a lot, people have lost their
- 2:29lives. You know, it is a difficult thing. This
- 2:33is not just a case where celebrities are losing their homes and they can buy new
- 2:36homes. That could be true. There's a lot of people who
- 2:39are suffering right now and a lot of the fire people that are out there doing
- 2:43their best to put this fire out and putting themselves in danger again
- 2:47in a vulnerable position to fires where they're just
- 2:50trying to contain. They know they can't put out right away until
- 2:54these winds die down. So we're going to talk about What the
- 2:57heck happened? It goes back a couple of years. In
- 3:002023, there was a lot of precipitation in California. They had
- 3:03record snowfalls up in the mountains. They had a
- 3:07lot of water. In fact, in the spring, they had a lot of landslides, and
- 3:10they had a lot of disasters regarding water. There was a lot of floods. LA got flooded.
- 3:14But in that time, there was so much water that all this
- 3:17vegetation grew, and it was quite lush for
- 3:20quite some time, for about a year. In comes 2024, super dry in LA. Very,
- 3:27very dry in California, drought conditions, all that vegetation just
- 3:30dried up. That just becomes an accelerant for any
- 3:34type of fire that could happen. It doesn't matter how it started, once
- 3:37that starts, if you get a bad wind, see where I'm going with this,
- 3:40if you get a bad wind, you're in trouble. And
- 3:45that is what really happened this year, a
- 3:48few weeks ago. The Santa Ana winds, which happen every
- 3:52once in a while, were massive this year. They
- 3:55were 90 mile an hour winds, and they still haven't settled
- 3:59down. It's caused any type of ignition of
- 4:03vegetation to go widespread. There were reports
- 4:07of, you know, five football fields of area
- 4:11being covered within an hour. Just think about that.
- 4:14Think about how fast this fire can go. You've seen pictures,
- 4:18you've seen videos of the fires. You've seen
- 4:21what's happened before, what happened during and what happened after. People
- 4:25had to leave just in the nick of time because they could not predict how
- 4:29fast this fire was going to spread. There are a number of
- 4:32different fires and you just never know. Once the winds change, you never know
- 4:36where it's going to go. Scientists refer to this Scientists
- 4:39refer to this action of being super
- 4:43wet conditions to super dry conditions as a hydroclimate whiplash,
- 4:48where essentially it happens where it gets extremely wet for one year, extremely
- 4:52dry, and then they're intensified by global climate
- 4:55change. So the wetness is intensified by global climate change, and the
- 4:58dryness is intensified by global climate change. It's
- 5:02climate change, folks. It's what people have been saying all along.
- 5:07And this is the problem that we have. These
- 5:10abrupt climate variations contribute to the increased vegetation growth during
- 5:14wet periods and followed by the drying of that vegetation during droughts,
- 5:18creating an abundant fuel for wildfires. This
- 5:21pattern has been observed in California, exacerbating the frequency and intensity
- 5:25of wildfires. This has been happening for a long time, but it's getting worse and
- 5:28worse. And once you get those bad winds, those Sandana winds, you get what
- 5:31we have right now, an absolute disaster, $250 billion
- 5:36worth of damage, 250 billion with a B. It's
- 5:39the cost of climate change. Unfortunately, it's putting
- 5:43people at risk. It doesn't matter where you are in your
- 5:461% or a 99%, it doesn't matter. It's coming for us. And
- 5:51if you're put in vulnerable positions, if you live in an area that
- 5:54is vulnerable to wildfires or drought or flooding, eventually
- 5:58it's gonna catch up. And if we continue to ignore climate change,
- 6:02these are the things that are gonna happen. We saw it out in Hawaii,
- 6:06in Maui, and now we're seeing it here in California. And it's devastating. It's
- 6:10absolutely devastating. I feel so bad for the people who had to
- 6:13go through that. I have friends who lost their childhood homes
- 6:17and their childhood friends have lost their homes. Parents
- 6:21just barely getting out, 11 dead so far. It's
- 6:25absolutely devastating. And we continue to have people like the
- 6:29next president that's coming in in a couple of weeks to talk that, hey, it's
- 6:32gonna get cooler in a couple of years. This is what he said in 2020. It's gonna
- 6:35get cooler in a couple of years. You just watch. We've had record heat
- 6:39every single year, including last year in 2024. And there
- 6:43are arguments all the time. I always see it. It's, you know, it's, It's
- 6:47it's wet. So why is it the things now? Everything's not warming. It's
- 6:50wet outside. We're getting rain. We're getting all this stuff. It's not snowing
- 6:54or it's snowed too much. How's this global warming? It's
- 6:58always the same thing. People believe in conspiracy theories. You
- 7:01know, it's government trying to control people. It's climate change.
- 7:04The scientists have been saying it for years for decades. And
- 7:08we continue to just ignore the people in charge that we elect to
- 7:11be in charge, continue to ignore the signs, continue to
- 7:15ignore what people are going through. It's like they don't even care.
- 7:18All they care about is the money that they're paid to get in to
- 7:21power. And it's really interesting because when you see these disasters happen,
- 7:26the blame game starts to show up and all the myths start to
- 7:29show up. you know, the blame first going on the fire department, which why
- 7:32are you blaming the fire department when the fire department is the one
- 7:36that is out there trying to stop
- 7:40these fires from happening, which is virtually impossible. And you have like, you know,
- 7:43the chief firefighter. was a woman criticized because she
- 7:47came out one time and said, yes, there will be, you know, the fire department will
- 7:50be focusing on making a diverse, equitable and inclusive workplace.
- 7:55That's all that she that's all she said one time. And now it's like, oh, well, it's because she's
- 7:58not hiring white men, that this is the problem that
- 8:01we're in. They can't put out the fire. That's not the case. That was debunked. And
- 8:04that's not the case. It does not matter how many firefighters we
- 8:08have. It does not matter how much water is available. The fact that these
- 8:11winds are picking up the fire in such dry conditions due to climate change,
- 8:15we're in trouble. That's why these fires are happening. And it is insane.
- 8:18People are even saying there's not enough water in, you know, the
- 8:22hydrants are like drying up. The chief came out
- 8:25and said, hey, you know, we have the right amount of water. It's
- 8:29just, there's not enough. They have a million gallon tanks of water waiting.
- 8:33to be used in the hydrants. It's just not enough. It's very difficult to predict this
- 8:38extent of fire, the intensity, the speed
- 8:42at which this fire is going. It is almost impossible to stop.
- 8:45And they just have to wait till the fires die down. And then unfortunately, people
- 8:49are in a vulnerable position because of climate change. This is what
- 8:52we've been saying. This is why scientists are so frustrated. There's
- 8:56data that comes out. We tell the people, the people who are making money because that
- 9:00are causing climate change say, you know what? We want to continue to make money. So
- 9:03we're just going to pay off the decision makers and we're going to start putting
- 9:06out misinformation out there. And we're going to say, Hey, you know what? Let's,
- 9:10let's not worry about climate change. It's not even real. Don't even worry about all this stuff.
- 9:13The scientists are saying they're just elitist. They just want to control you. It's
- 9:16not, it's nothing. It's insane. It's insane to even think. that
- 9:20we're at a position like this. I find it funny that the next
- 9:24president is blaming the governor for saying, hey, there's not
- 9:27enough water because you diverted some water for smelt,
- 9:31which is a conservation project way north of
- 9:34where the fires are. And then there's also a situation
- 9:38where, well, they got rid of a dam. And they could use the
- 9:41water from the dam for an indigenous reconciliation project. And
- 9:45that's the reason. That's not the reason. It's the decades of
- 9:48federal government ignoring climate change and not doing
- 9:52anything about it. And to be honest, anybody who has
- 9:55been in power, whether it be Democrats or Republicans, who
- 9:59have been the president over the last like three, four
- 10:02decades are responsible because they did not move at
- 10:06all, or they did not move fast enough to help climate change. Or
- 10:09they reversed all the actions that were done in climate change, AKA Donald
- 10:12Trump, getting out of the Paris Accord. We continue to
- 10:16fall within these traps. It's continuous. We try and
- 10:19blame all of these people, blame the mayor for cutting the
- 10:23budget of the fire department, which they never really did. It was debunked.
- 10:27And here we are, we have people who are living in areas that
- 10:31are vulnerable to fire. They are spending millions on
- 10:34their homes and they are losing out because the
- 10:37insurance companies are getting out of dodge. They're getting out of California
- 10:41because it's so difficult. Their insurance claims canceled.
- 10:45or their insurance canceled, or they're not renewed because they live in
- 10:49a fire hazard. If you want to know about climate change and where the most vulnerable
- 10:52spots are, you watch where insurance companies will not cover
- 10:56certain disasters. They're starting to get out of Florida because of hurricanes, and
- 11:00the Southeast because of hurricanes, and they're getting out of California and other places because
- 11:03of fire. Because they can't, they don't have the reserves, they don't have the
- 11:07money to cover the amount of money that's required
- 11:10to cover all these disasters. They're not built for that. So
- 11:13they get out of there. They know way ahead of time. And whether they
- 11:17may not renew your insurance for that coverage, or
- 11:21they don't offer it to you at all anymore on new houses or new bills.
- 11:25They know exactly what's happening. And they just get out. And then we're
- 11:29stuck with the bill. The people are stuck with the bill. And look, I
- 11:32get it. We see celebrities on TV because it's
- 11:35in LA, it's in Hollywood. And people are like, oh, well, you
- 11:38know, these celebrities, they make millions, tens of millions, hundreds of
- 11:42millions of dollars. Why should we care? They're going to be able to buy a nice house. Yes.
- 11:45I mean, obviously it sucks to lose a house. You
- 11:48lose pictures. I can't even imagine. It is devastating. But
- 11:53yes, many of them, of the celebrities, probably either have homes somewhere
- 11:56else or they can afford to pay for another home. They
- 12:00lose all their, their memories. They lose all of, you
- 12:03know, any kind of memorabilia that they have, any type of
- 12:06ancestry things that they have, which is awful for
- 12:09anybody. It doesn't matter how rich you are, how poor you are. It's awful. But
- 12:13yes, they could probably move and buy another house. And although
- 12:16it affect their income, they'd still be able to have a house. It's
- 12:19the people who can't afford to move. That's where it becomes really devastating. They
- 12:23have no homes. They can't afford, they have to move out of the
- 12:26state, because it's really expensive to live, and they have no place to go. Nobody's
- 12:30gonna buy their house. Why would you buy in a place that is so
- 12:33vulnerable to wildfires that took out entire neighborhoods? Not
- 12:37just one, entire neighborhoods. Not to mention all the air
- 12:40quality hazards that are out there for people for years
- 12:44to come. It is brutal the way people continue to
- 12:47get treated Yet we listen to politicians who
- 12:51deny climate change, who want to drill baby drill, and
- 12:55these things continue to happen. It's awful. Now what can we do
- 12:58about it? The first thing is put decision makers in place that
- 13:02agree that climate change is happening and we need to do something about it, like three decades
- 13:05ago. That's what we need to do. Put people into place who
- 13:08are capable of understanding the complexities of climate change and
- 13:12what need to happen. It's really it. That's all you have to do is
- 13:15use your vote. Climate change, back when Obama
- 13:19was president, the Navy said that climate change was the biggest
- 13:22threat to the United States, to the world, to the planet. Yet
- 13:26all of a sudden we've forgotten that. No, no, they're just blowing up
- 13:29promotion. It wasn't even a big topic in the US presidential
- 13:32election. It won't be a big topic in
- 13:36the next election for Canada, other than taking the carbon tax away,
- 13:39which is a measure to combat climate change. It's
- 13:43unreal. Yet we continue to just fall into these traps.
- 13:47This disaster will happen. We'll follow it for a few months. We'll
- 13:51forget about it, just like we did to Hawaii. And then we'll continue with
- 13:54our way. And then we'll continue to vote people in who don't do anything about
- 13:58climate change when they're in power. We do it to ourselves. And
- 14:01I'm frustrated. I'm so sick of it. We just continue to do it to
- 14:04ourselves. And until we realize that climate
- 14:08change is affecting all aspects of our life, including the economy, we're
- 14:12going to run out of money. We can't always pay for these natural disasters. $250 billion.
- 14:18We have to, we have to change something. Things have to change. And
- 14:22if we keep ignoring it, we're going to keep having these happen. And there's going to
- 14:26be areas in the United States, as well as around the world where we
- 14:29cannot live because it's too unsafe for people to
- 14:32live. And that's going to continue that, that area is going to continue to
- 14:36grow. And we're going to continue to have problems as
- 14:40people are trying to figure out where they can live and where they can't. So it's
- 14:43a, it's a, an awakener, although we've, we've had these problems before,
- 14:47but people need to like, as people are, are, you
- 14:50know, donating money to the red cross and donating money to people to
- 14:54help them survive, maybe they should realize like, maybe I should donate
- 14:57to campaigns of politicians who are actually going to do something about climate change.
- 15:01Cause those are the ones we need. The scientists are all, they're pretty much on board.
- 15:05They're like climate change is happening, but the decision makers refuse to do
- 15:08anything about it or do anything about fast enough. Like there's even criticism with
- 15:12the Biden administration that they're not working fast enough, including and
- 15:16with the Trudeau government as well. We just aren't
- 15:19doing it fast enough because we don't want to pay for it, but we're going to
- 15:22have to pay for it in one way or another. And it could be with our homes. It could be
- 15:25with our lives. It could be with just our
- 15:29countries and it's not discriminating against any country. It's
- 15:32going after everything. So it's a rude awakening. I hate to start off the week like
- 15:35this, but something I thought I had to cover. I feel so, so bad
- 15:39for the people who are, who have been devastated by these fires. And
- 15:43I'll put links now where people can donate to help people out
- 15:47in these fires as they continue to burn. And hopefully people can
- 15:50recover and find a way to live on, but it's going to forever change
- 15:54them. That's it for today's episode. If you have any comments or anywhere that people
- 15:57can donate, please let me know. You can hit me up on Instagram at
- 16:00how to protect the ocean. You can also and I hope everyone is safe out
- 16:04there, especially our fans and our audience in the L.A. region.
- 16:08And I just I hope that everybody is just able
- 16:11to recover and get to a safe spot. Thank you very much for listening to this episode of
- 16:15the How to Protect the Ocean podcast. I'm your host, Angelo, and have a good day. I'll