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NFL Week 1 MNF Showdown | Vikings @ Bears | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear.
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  Speaker 2: We lift up.
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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totagg and Tambo
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  Speaker 1: back for another Monday Night football edition. We're gonna break
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  Speaker 1: it all down. Vikings at the Bears still in Week one.
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  Speaker 1: I know some had great days yesterday. We'll showcase those later.
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  Speaker 1: Some had tough days yesterday. Hand up the Ravens made
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  Speaker 1: it even worse if you're a fan of any teams.
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  Speaker 1: That was the worst ending to any game I've ever
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  Speaker 1: seen in a long time. So that was hurtful. But
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  Speaker 1: we're back to break all things down from a DFS perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna teach you how to play, not tell you who
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  Speaker 1: to play. Gonna talk about the showdown Slate, DraftKings fan
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  Speaker 1: and sabersim. But hoopster, how was your Week one? I
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  Speaker 1: know you got one win in the books is you
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  Speaker 1: got the one to know on the Golden Shipper, and
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  Speaker 1: then you got Naid's was talking that trash and the
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  Speaker 1: minute he said that the Sutton touchdown came through and
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  Speaker 1: I think you you got him by two points.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it took like three seconds to build
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  Speaker 2: a cash team to to face off against Naids and
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  Speaker 2: got the win. Obviously, I'm sure he was grinding that
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  Speaker 2: puppy all the way up the lock. But it was
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  Speaker 2: the easy w advance to to want to know, against
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  Speaker 2: Naids in the uh, in the in the head to head.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing to get right was mister Danny Dollars, right,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we gotta we got to move on past
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  Speaker 2: the nickname and miss mister Dollars got the job done
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  Speaker 2: in a huge, huge way. I liked them, but I
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  Speaker 2: didn't think that was coming.
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  Speaker 3: So that I mean basically, I guess there are a
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  Speaker 3: few quarterbacks fields got there as well, but yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't have the right combinations with him, obviously, but man,
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  Speaker 3: it was some of those quarterbacks kind of went off
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  Speaker 3: running backs, you know whatever. Wide receiver a lot of
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  Speaker 3: bus I mean, Jamar, Chase, Mike Evans. So that was
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  Speaker 3: kind of the main spot that you had to hit,
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  Speaker 3: was wide receiver. Buca got there in a pretty big way.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, what a wild end to yesterday in
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  Speaker 3: that game.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely insane finish, like crazy, crazy finish. And then the
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  Speaker 2: other thing I got right in terms of the calls
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  Speaker 2: is Lions got their ass kicked, and I just don't
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  Speaker 2: think they're gonna be very good anymore in golf. He's terrible.
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  Speaker 2: I just decaid it. I was saying at the end
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  Speaker 2: of last season again, you don't need to be like
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  Speaker 2: a running quarterback in the NFL. Yes, you have an
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  Speaker 2: advantage if you are. You just have to be able
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  Speaker 2: to escape pressure. And the best example is like a
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  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford'll he's not a running quarterback, but if there's pressure,
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  Speaker 2: he'll get out of there and avoid it. Golf just
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  Speaker 2: takes a sack or throws a shitty pass. Lions are
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  Speaker 2: in big, big trouble. It's just funny. You listen. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's just one game and this and that. No, there,
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  Speaker 2: they're in trouble. GoF fucking suck. So we'll start there.
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  Speaker 1: What a title? What does title think about yesterday? As
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  Speaker 1: people want to know too, before you give us your thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: we always you know, they said, if you can just
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  Speaker 1: tell us what you're gonna do, we're gonna break it
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  Speaker 1: down quick, run through yesterday fast and take a few minutes,
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  Speaker 1: gonna go through the updates that we have on the
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  Speaker 1: site quickly, and then we'll jump right into breaking down
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  Speaker 1: this slate. You're gonna keep it as quick as possible.
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  Speaker 1: We know you guys want to get that information and
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  Speaker 1: get the good information as quickly as possible. That's always
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  Speaker 1: gonna be our goal title. What was your thoughts on yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: Any takeaways?
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  Speaker 4: A lot of gross football offenses definitely aren't up to par.
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  Speaker 4: Outside of those couple Lamar's Josh Allens of the world.
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  Speaker 4: The Ravens keep fricking tilting me. Anytime Harball gets a
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  Speaker 4: big lead, he will take his foot off the gas. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: let's run it on first and second down, third and eight.
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  Speaker 4: It's absolutely brutal to watch. I mean, yeah, go ahead
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  Speaker 4: and always backfires.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it just crazy, like you, they could not
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  Speaker 2: stop the I mean literally could not stop the offense
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  Speaker 2: whatever they wanted to do. Obviously they know you're running
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  Speaker 2: it in those scenarios like do something different and you
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  Speaker 2: easily win the game, Like easily win the game. These
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  Speaker 2: coaches that decide to just try to play it safe
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  Speaker 2: at the end, I love seeing them get their ass kicked.
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  Speaker 2: I love seeing it it's amazing and like carbod just
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  Speaker 2: it's just such a donkey way to play football.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it in the playoffs a million times,
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  Speaker 1: so I said, you can watch it. It's not even just
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  Speaker 1: take the foot off the gas. And when the time
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  Speaker 1: hits they don't let Lamar. Lamar takes all the shit,
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  Speaker 1: and he should. It's Lamar. I get it, like whatever
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  Speaker 1: and the MVP stuff and all that, but his talents
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  Speaker 1: are to take over and do what he does. It's
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  Speaker 1: what got them to that point in the game. Telegraphed
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  Speaker 1: run with Henry another run or quick checkdowns. Literally the
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  Speaker 1: last thing in this game I would want out of
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  Speaker 1: him is these checkdowns. It's like the last thing I
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  Speaker 1: would want him to do. And they run that three
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  Speaker 1: times and then kick it and then you got all
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  Speaker 1: these analytics and the teams that I know they pay for.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what anyway on say, oh, well if
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  Speaker 1: they don't get it there and they kicked the field goal,
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  Speaker 1: they lose. No, actually they had three timeouts. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care what anyone says about that. And the numbers probably
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  Speaker 1: will go against me on this, but I would have
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  Speaker 1: went for it. You got that, you got the best player,
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  Speaker 1: one of the best players, MVP candidate of the league.
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  Speaker 1: You need like two yards. If you're counting on them
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  Speaker 1: to run those three shitty plays before, might as well
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  Speaker 1: run it back one more time. Yes, if you miss,
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  Speaker 1: they will kick the field goal likely and get ahead
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  Speaker 1: of you. Then you still have the best quarterback or
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  Speaker 1: one of them next to Josh Allen. Now after last
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  Speaker 1: night again, where you could just play it again. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know title, what do you think of that? I
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  Speaker 1: thought they should go for it, man. I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: look up the numbers on it, but I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go for that. I don't care what the field position is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I wasn't against that one bit, just because,
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  Speaker 4: like you said, you have the three timeouts, they get
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  Speaker 4: a field goal, you can go down and get one.
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  Speaker 4: It was just more so tilt in the first two plays.
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  Speaker 4: Like I had, I would have had nothing else going
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  Speaker 4: for it. I didn't have. It wasn't the worst to
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  Speaker 4: kick it either, but how do you just run the
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  Speaker 4: football up the middle on first down? Hand it to
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  Speaker 4: Za Flowers on the end of round like Lamar didn't
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  Speaker 4: even have the option to seem on that play to
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  Speaker 4: keep it. Maybe it was an RP. You know, but
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  Speaker 4: I mean it was just so it was wild. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: and then like tying this in I guess just a
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  Speaker 4: week one and showdown in general what you think you know?
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  Speaker 4: You don't know the lowest total the Jets of the Steelers.
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  Speaker 4: You're talking shit about Rogers. Rogers, Baby, you might be back,
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, look at that game, thirty seven and
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  Speaker 4: a half total alone. That game, like on one side,
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  Speaker 4: got over whatever you think you know about a game
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  Speaker 4: applying it to showdown even more million dollars up top tonight.
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  Speaker 4: We really have no clue.
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  Speaker 1: get to, Gonna start with title. Gonna get a little
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  Speaker 1: Grand Scheme overview. We got Caleb Williams, we got you know, Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I think both sides of this are pretty interesting, and
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  Speaker 1: I liked your original setup for this is you don't
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  Speaker 1: like middling or like, I don't think anybody knows, and
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  Speaker 1: things off?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a pretty good showdown game.
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  Speaker 4: And the fact of you have a good amount of unknowns.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I always like when there's two running backs
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  Speaker 4: at least on one side, and you get that on
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  Speaker 4: Minnesota with Aaron Jones Jordan Mason. When you have just
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: two workhorses on each side. It kind of limits like
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: the player pool, the uniques, how you can get it
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  Speaker 4: that way. Receiving room. There's no Jordan Addison for the
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: first three games, but they did just get Adam Feeling
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  Speaker 4: less than a month ago. Naylor was dealing with like
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  Speaker 4: a hand he should play. But I wouldn't be surprised
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  Speaker 4: if they rotate a couple of these other like these
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  Speaker 4: fountains of the world and stuff, very large field stuff
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  Speaker 4: if you're getting there. But they also gonna run some
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  Speaker 4: two tight end sets, so you have multiple guys on
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  Speaker 4: the vikings, pass catchers and running backs that are very
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  Speaker 4: much in play. With a rookie quarterback, someone that's making
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  Speaker 4: his first NFL start obviously hurt his knee last year
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  Speaker 4: in McCarthy, so he couldn't make his actual rookie debut,
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: but a lot of unknowns there. Then you get a
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  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson offense in his first Bears appearance. It looks
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  Speaker 4: like it's mainly just gonna be swift, because very doubtful
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  Speaker 4: Roshawn Johnson's gonna play. They do like this Magnione guy
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  Speaker 4: a little bit just late round rookie, he's gonna have
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  Speaker 4: to get some snap, so that's a viable option in
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  Speaker 4: the lower tier. Then the nice thing with the Bears
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  Speaker 4: passing game, they're gonna run plenty of two tight end sets.
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  Speaker 4: They got this rookie Lovelin, took him even ahead of
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  Speaker 4: Tyler Warren, which was a little surprise. But they have
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  Speaker 4: Cole Comett who's been in the Knicks for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna run some twelve personnel, so two tight ends. Then
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  Speaker 4: play there four receivers, dj Moore, Dounza, the clear ones.
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  Speaker 4: It looks like Sakias will be at wide receiver three
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  Speaker 4: to start. But they got Luther Burton, a rookie as well,
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  Speaker 4: who has a lot more just like Hepe Big Play
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  Speaker 4: Upside doesn't like it. Sounds like right now week one,
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  Speaker 4: they're safer with ta Kias He's gonna probably get more snaps,
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  Speaker 4: but we don't know that. We're guessing kind of at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the day. And burthen or Bertha Burden,
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: excuse me, Luther Burden combining the names. He's expensive, he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be really low owned. It could be like a
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  Speaker 4: Jahan Dotson the one play gets you sixty yard catch,
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  Speaker 4: that's enough or something like that. So brand team overview
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  Speaker 4: the totals came down a little forty five and a
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  Speaker 4: half now forty three and a half, one half point spread.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty much flip a coin there. What I like though,
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  Speaker 4: plenty of options on both sides of the ball, which
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  Speaker 4: can expand the player pool. I think defenses have to
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  Speaker 4: play being played. Kickers look good again. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 4: it's another slate you can get pretty low dupe lineups
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  Speaker 4: like we saw yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, who, what do you think of anything different from that?
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  Speaker 2: The one thing that I guess, I don't know. I mean,
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy and it might just be me
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  Speaker 2: tilting my ass off. But like, after correlating and bring
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  Speaker 2: this back to the Lions, after seeing how bad they
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  Speaker 2: were offensively and how bad golf looked, like, I'm inclined
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  Speaker 2: to give the Bears a little bit of a boost
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  Speaker 2: here with Ben Johnson as their head coach, honestly, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I think he disguised a lot of issues with the
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  Speaker 2: with the Detroit Lions and specifically Jared Goff, And if
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  Speaker 2: he was able to accomplish what he did offensively with
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  Speaker 2: Jared Goff, who freaking sucks, like he might be able
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  Speaker 2: to work some magic. And it is only week one,
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  Speaker 2: his first game, so it might not you know, come
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  Speaker 2: full circle here in game one, but that has me
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  Speaker 2: like in the Bears a little bit, to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: their offense, So I might lean the Bears a little
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  Speaker 2: bit offensively for DFS purposes. One thing, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna have some trickery or some you know, unique
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  Speaker 2: plays going on, and that's where like, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of talk to both guys like Luther Burden, where this
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  Speaker 2: guy could come out of nowhere one play they execute
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  Speaker 2: a trick player some fifty sixty yard touchdown. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be in on a lot of the Bears offensive guys,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of for that reason. And you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: like I hate to tie back to the Lions, but
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  Speaker 2: what I saw yesterday, Man, he might have worked some
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  Speaker 2: magic in the previous years with this offense, but like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the reason the total came down was because
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  Speaker 2: the Unders hit what eleven The Unders went eleven and
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  Speaker 2: two I think yesterday with the obviously the exception of
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  Speaker 2: that the game last night, which went nuclear, but a
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: lot of a lot of offenses were sluggish. Total came
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: down here a couple because you know, everyone's just gonna
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: bet the undraft seeing what they saw with the majority
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  Speaker 2: of those games. But in terms of like captain plays
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  Speaker 2: and guys, I'm considering, you know, the first one obviously
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  Speaker 2: is Justin Jefferson. If anyone could just come out in
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: nuke this slate, it would clearly be him. No Jordan Addison,
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  Speaker 2: but probably slate where I spread it out a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more at the captain spot. But this game could
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  Speaker 2: go a variety of ways. I agree with the kickers.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, kickers are just too cheap. We saw it
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: again last night. I don't know if they ended up
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: being on the winner, but they're they're flirting with the
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: or opt in the lineup almost every single night. I mean,
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: it just takes a couple of field goals and they're
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: right there. When you consider their price, you got you know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: five K you know usually upper fours, low five K
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: player that you know two field goals. Teams are kicking
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: deeper field goals now, so you're talking eight to nine
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: points right there. A couple extra points are at ten
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: or eleven, and then if they fleuk it like a
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: random fifty yard or to end the half like, they're
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: right there.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: So the kickers are just too cheap.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Every slate. I think they go under owned, so that'll
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: be a priority in terms of what I'm doing today,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: but pretty wide open slate, I'd say overall, just piss.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Me off so hard. Again, thinking about what I said earlier.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: That was the other thing about not going for with
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. This guy Tyler Loop can feel like you
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: can kick it from seventy if you can hold. Even
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: if they get the ball back here and you got
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: three timeouts and they end up kicking the field goal,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: it's the same score the game ended. You would have
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: had all the time in the world to get the
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: sixty yards plus and still been able to win the
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: game with just a field goal. Like man, the Ravens
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: just literally botched that completely last nay. Oh yeah, but
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: if you take all the scenarios and Harbaugh and blah
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: blah blah. Been a fan for a very long time.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it feels this way. The numbers
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: say it's different, but the sample size of me feeling
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: like shit after that happens is one hundred out of
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: one hundred. So I'm just getting tired of thinking about it.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: But anyway, let's.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Wasn't I didn't. I didn't fully shit on your bikes, Danny.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: We're glad to have you back. I know you're a
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Vikings fan. I really I really ripped into him to
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: start last season. I learned my lasts and very quick,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: so I'm not fully disregarding him, but kind of just
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: prefer the Bear side for fantasy tonight. Maybe you know,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: maybe the Vikings still get the job done and win
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the game, but for fantasy purposes tonight, I think I'm
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: more on the Bear side.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the other one I saw there?
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: To you?
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Is that stat real that Josh posted? Did you see
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: that one?
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: We feel like it would know better, like following the
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: golf streets.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: It said something like, oh, he's like three and he's
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: three and eighteen as a starting quarterback without Ben Jonson.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, day it was like seventeen.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: He said he was nineteen or something with that with
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: his one of those two.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Any credits to the Packers Packers defense, I need no
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: credit there?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure, they're I mean Packers are I think
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: gonna end up being a legitimate and the fact they
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: they did that, I mean again, I don't think the
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: lines are gonna end up being anything special. But like
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Micah Parsons. It seems like they're kind of just using
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: them third down. They clearly didn't need them, like them
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: they're dominating with yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, obviously that'll
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: ramp up. But like they didn't need them. I mean,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: they dominated, so they probably didn't push it. If it
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: was a closer game, he probably would have played more.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: But it's like, why why push it? We're absolutely dusting
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: these guys and we don't need to, you know, fully
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: fully use him. So I'm assuming, but yeah, their defense
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: very very solid. Their solid defense last year, Uh, Jordan
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Love made some really good plays. They're down plays like
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: they're gonna be a tough thing. The one thing for
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: fantasy purposes though, same thing as last year. They're gonna
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: use a lot of wide receivers, which makes it difficult
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: when you're looking to stack them up.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so sure. One thing I want to ask this
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: is just a side note. You think he thinks we
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: sound good on the microphones or do you think he
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: thinks we know what we're talking about? What's your take?
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I think you're saying we sound good, real tight, Like.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: You've never been complimented for our microphones. Ever, it's usually
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: mine's too loud, Your guys is quiet? What doesn't work?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: But maybe he's saying, we sound good title, We got
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the we got the stuff figured out here. But yeah,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: let's start with Captain. I will say. The one great
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: thing that I love the slate I was telling you
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: if I love it or hate it, is that there's
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: a million dollars up top tonight and no, no shit,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: it's week one and we don't know, like look at
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the Jones. Mason could be either all these receivers that
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, the Luther Burden, the third o z
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Romo Dunes, Like we have just a million differ guys.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: What about Loveland versus Comet versus whatever. Like there's just
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: so many options on this slate that you could go to.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: And that's what I love when we get these showdown
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: slates and we can do it. So I'm excited to
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: get to this title. I'm gonna start probably with you here. Well,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: who gets his uh his stuff loaded up. People saw
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: him mouthing the words that looks so small or something
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the other day and they're making fun of him for it.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: So let him get it figured out and you can
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: start with your cad.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Just to be clear, because I want to, you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: incorporate it more. And now we go about doing the shows.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: This is just a dry run. I ran a thousand
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: teams projected score. This is what we got at the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: captain position. So I'm going to try to correlate more.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: So you know how we're talking through. So this is
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be captain. We go into quarterback, I'll pull up
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: what we're getting the quarterback. But you can see here
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: what we got in the dry run at the captain position.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty line.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Just you guys know, well, I kick at the title again.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: That's tight. Title. Actually taught this to who yesterday after
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the live show, and now who's excited to bus?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I know that I know this part obviously, I didn't
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: know when he went to flex.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Thank you Tamba for help, and he threw me under
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: the bus and I took a little nap after the
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: first Thursday night came. So thanks for airing it out
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: that I taught team.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: We're a team man, all right, That is all we got.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be fun.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I love seeing when only one captain
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: projected or one guy is projected over twenty percent at captain,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: which is Justin Jefferson at twenty one percent, It's like,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: who knows, Maybe no one comes in over twenty percent,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: which is what I like to see because it's really
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: easy for me to just play what I deem to
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: be the best plays of the highest upside plays at
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: captain without taking chances on a lot of these bums
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: are no name guys that are a lot less likely
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: and then get different in the flex. So I'm gonna
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: play the best guys idem on both sides. Starts with
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson doesn't mean I'll necessarily be most overweight, to
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: be honest, Aaron Jones seeing him at roughly like the
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: ten percent mark, I think is my favorite way if
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I had to pick one captain, because you leverage off
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: of Justin Jefferson, who's the highest. McCarthy's getting a good
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: amount himself. If Jones rushes it in twice, look at that,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Jefferson probably not there. McCarthy not only ten per seven
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: percent eight percent. Jones feels really low on that way.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Another thing that stands out, not one player is better
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: than plus one thirty to score in this game. The
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: best Justin Jefferson plus one thirty five Swift plus one
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: fifty five, Jones one seventy five, and then it's keeps
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: going on and on and again, like it kind of
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: goes back to all right. Even if Aaron Jones scores once,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: he can catch five passes out of the backfield. We
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: don't know what the split between Mason and Jones will
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: be on the ground. I think it'll be relatively close.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: Jones definitely the third down back, can catch passes better.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Mason more of a bruiser, but we've seen Aaron Jones
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: run the bruiser role plenty two. I'm going to take
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: it like Aaron Jones gets more opportunities, gets more snaps. Again,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: the leverage he offers off of Jefferson and McCarthy look
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: really good to me, So he's probably my favorite. I
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: do want Jefferson, the McCarthy and kill Williams. It kind
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: of reminds me of Pat Mahomes and Herbert and the
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: fact that they have sneaky rushing upside if they get
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: outside the pocket or plays break down, you can see
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: like ten eleven twelve yard scrambles. We saw Mahomes do
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: it get a rushing touch on himself on those nights.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Like I think there's enough rushing upside possibly to fall
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: in the box, or they just spread it around and
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: go three hundred and get the three hundred yard bonus.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: I'm going to play quarterbacks up and then from there,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: like I don't love them, it's more bear stuff for me.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: The A Donsay, DJ Moore, Swift, I like all of
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: them more personally than Hakison, then feel In, then Nail
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: or then Burt like or then yeah, any of those
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: guys really like even Mason, I don't really love him
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: at captain. So I'm gonna be Jefferson, Jones and then
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: probably McCarthy and then it'll be all bear stuff, kleb a, Dounza,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: more Swift. I don't know how many strong leans I
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: have on that, but if those are my only captains,
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: I can be at least with the field or like
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I've been spreading it out more, the portfolio diversify. I
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: have noticed with Sabersim and seeing what pros had been doing,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I've been able to get a pretty solid balance around
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: the field on said seven or eight captains I like.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: And then the flex is where I can make more
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: stands and get different and leave a salary or make
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: one pivot that I'm still playing plays that are always
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: on the field and good. It's just I did something
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: at the flex position that can boost me and eliminate
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: like a hand full of dupes that way. So just
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I'm playing the best plays I captin, I'll be pretty
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: spread out.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And I think there's some interesting points
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: that you made, like in how you can leverage it
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: in different angles that you can go with. But certainly
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a good night for that. Like, I think the chat
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: is so focused. You know a lot of people you're
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: talking to the chat about like just it's only these
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: two bad teams, or don't forget it's you know, two
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: shitty teams, Like it's I don't really care, it's like
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with my thoughts. That's why
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: it's when we do this about DFS and not about
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the plays. It's fun. We just shot the shit for
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: ten minutes and the start of the show breaking down
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: teams and coaches, and we don't know shit. That's why
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: we're sitting here and there there. That's the point we
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: think we do and we're trying to have fun with
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: it with you just like you guys are. But like
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: when it comes to DFS, that is what we know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and all I care about is that people think they
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: know something and they probably don't, and we get to
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: build against that or with it, or leveraging it, however
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you want to phrase it. There's tons of different ways
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to go. This is the type of slate I want,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: even if I don't know anything, and neither do you.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: It's that's what we get to go in with and
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: have some fun with because there's all kinds of little
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: spots where you have a wide receiver, one that you
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: can leave on the table, drop down to somebody else
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and use them instead. Look at Jamar Chase's output this week,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: look at aj Brown's output this week, like how does
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: this guarantee? And I mean Jefferson's a bad example because
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: he always seems to be the guy. But let's just
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: say he's not tonight with this slate and what we've got, well,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: well that's a great opportunity. If everybody thinks he's the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: nut number one that you're gonna have to have. It
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: could be a similar situation. Who what's your takeaways for
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the captain spot?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Pretty similar? Probably focus in on the main guys. I mean,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: obviously you know, gun into my head. Who do I
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: think is the captain you need, probably Jefferson, but that's
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: kind of what the field's thinking, and he'll be the highest.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: And I do think it probably comes up a little
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: bit like we're showing twenty one. Saber has it at nineteen.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I just checked one other spot has it at eighteen.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's it could end up being closer to
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: twenty five. But I have noticed, like titles do, it
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: is getting really spread out, like people are just kind
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: of playing everybody at the captain position. Who was it,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: oh c Lamb in that first game, eight percent for
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Cede Lamb. I know there are other plays that are cheaper,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: but eight percent, like ce d Lamb, that was That
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: was kind of eye opening to me. And it is
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: getting very spread out. So I guess, you know, maybe
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I retracked what I said where I think Jefferson gets higher.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, people are playing anyone that looks viable. People
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: are playing and then they'll play some of these, you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: shitty cheap ones as well to get a little bit different.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So maybe I take that back a little bit. I
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: hope that's the case, because I want to get overweight
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: on on Jefferson. I think Aaron Jones, I think is
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: a great option, fair price tag putting him in the
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: captain spot and really not sacrificing much. You know, a
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: lot of people wanted to not right off, but you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: knock down some of the like the Breess Halls of
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: the world, and you know CMC and guys like that,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Like maybe they're still the guys even though they brought
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: someone else into town. Like and I think that could
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: end up being the case with Aaron Jones. I know
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are high on Jordan Mason and
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: they're drafting them high in best Balls and whatnot. But
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's still Aaron Jones, and maybe it
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: gets a little bit more of a break and he's
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: more productive. So I like the Aaron Jones play. But
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: one of my favorites is definitely Howkinson. I love Hockinson
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and the captain spot tonight rookie quarterback. I mean, I know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I guess you know he was a rookie lash year
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: but didn't play No Addison cheap price tag, Like, I
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if we see like eight for eighty
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and if he gets in the touchdown, If he gets
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: a touchdown, he's the guy you need. So those are
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the ones I'm focusing in on the on the Viking
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: side for the Bears. I mean, it's definitely gonna be
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: like Dj Moore. I know people are talking about DeAndre Swift.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely good with DeAndre Swift. I think you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be used in a more creative way under
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. Cheap.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: My question is what I do with these quarterbacks because
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I know I want to be in on the you know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: the main skill position guys, but like the quarterbacks, I
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: don't know, like I prefer Caleb Williams, I think between
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the two, and you know, based on the owners or
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: based on what's ownership, so pretty close between two. I
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: definitely prefer Caleb to JJ. Probably play some of both,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: but I might end up being like underweight maybe on
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. Not one hundred percent sure. I haven't built
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: my teams, but uh yeah, I'm in on you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: all the main dudes like Jefferson, Aaron Jones, Hockinson, uh,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift and DJ Moore as well. I think I
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: think we see a more dynamic role from DeAndre Swift
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: tonight under Ben Johnson, and I want to be a
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: part of it, and that the price tag I think
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: is very reasonable.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Agreed, And I think that's interesting too because I know
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the chat and I liked so my guy back here,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing this up, Brandon, I like this one like
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: DJ Moore should get some target. Agree, Agree, Agree, like
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: all this stuff looks good, maybe much better throwing I'm
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: gonna play him up there, but says, you know that's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: not true to you know, to our boys, shaloups as
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Swift has been, had been hurt constantly, We're not. We're
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: talking about tonight, not had been and says, isn't giving
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: him this? How do we know what they're giving him? Right?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You have no idea till tonight. That's the whole point.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: He's not durable enough for what we need him to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: be durable tonight. He might break down in three weeks
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: and you'd say, told you has zero to do with
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: my result tonight or my thought tonight. So like your comments,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: love your stuff. I think it's all good. It's not
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: coming at you're just saying that's our exact point. We
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: don't know. And another crazy thing, Scott Barrett just posted
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: this from Fantasy Points. Who if you just talked about
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: like maybe some of these teams just stick with their guy.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: This is the since twenty twenty one second most over
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: seventy two percent seventy one and a half snap share
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: for Bell Cow Backs. He said, Bell Cow's their back
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: question mark. Like everyone's just running their guy out in
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: week one and everyone wants it to be and in
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: two weeks it could be the next guy, but that
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean tonight that it will be. So that's kind
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of the setup there. But almost I think sixteen backs
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: had said and with tonight pending, they ran him over
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: seventy two percent out there that they were so.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of it, you know, in our
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: little circle of fantasy in DFS, like people want to
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: be ahead of the curve on the next guy and
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the rookie guy, and oh, they brought this guy in
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: for this reason. They want to be the first one
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: to say that, you know, he's gonna have this sort
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: of role. And it really didn't pan out yesterday, specifically
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: like Breece Hall, he got a majority of the work
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: in New York. A lot of people assumed that was
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: not going to be the case. And you see a
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: lot of it, I mean, yeah, Jordan Mason could end
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: up having a huge role like who the hell knows,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: but like I don't know, Like I like sticking with
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the trusting commodities and not trying to guess on what
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: someone's role is going to be.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one other thing I want to add, and then
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to title here for running backs, because
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: there's two rooms to talk about. Who just talked about
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit between Jones and Mason and some of
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: that stuff. But I will say another thing, one and
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a half point spread. We're coming off of a Sunday
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: night football where there was this super close game, and
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you know how people just relate things, right, just natural
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in the human brain to be like, oh well last
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: night was pretty back and forth and a close game
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in the end, and a bunch of games were closed,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and this, that and the other. This could just be
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a straight blowout one way or the other. So for
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: every point people can make about McCarthy, there's four and
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: against and the rest of his squad. For everything people
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: could say about Caleb Williams four and against, I think
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you should definitely have some five to one builds to
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: both sides tonight in your portfolio because I think there's
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: definitely a possibility we see that again. Build your lineup succordingly, however,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: you're using it the tools and stuff to put it together.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: But I don't mind still doing that. And I think
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the one thing is is that, like the Viking side,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I do feel a little bit better about using like Jones, Jefferson,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Hawkinson and then maybe a couple others if I'm spreading
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: it out. And on the Bears side, it's like more
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: likely that I'm gonna see Caleb up top because it
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: can be to swift more Odoons, Oz Burden, Colston, Cole Kamet,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Like there's literally so many guys on that side that
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: he could be throwing that ball to. He spreads it
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: out a bit more. Plus he can run it in himself,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: So I would I like that just a little bit more.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: And currently he's showing just slightly under McCarthy at the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: captain ownership, but they're both being pretty much held in check.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: You just got to think that the Jefferson stuff trickles
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: over to more Vikings up top with Hawk, Aaron, Joones
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and McCarthy than it does on the Chicago side. Plus
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: they're underdogs even though they can win this game. So
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: very interesting to see title. If you have anything else
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to add. If not, let's take us in the running
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: back from here.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fun one with so many options. I'm
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: definitely on the stance of this, Like I don't. I
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: think just Kevin O'Connell is one of the best offenses
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: of mine. In football, when you have the best receiver,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: it's not as hard for your quarterback to look good.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't even know what to really think
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: of McCarthy didn't have to throw the ball much in
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: college at all, but he couldn't be in a better
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: scheme and a better offense, is how I see it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I love the running backs today, a lot of it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: So we have Aaron Jones and Swift, two pass catching
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: versatile backs. Get the ball in their hand, they can
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: make plays. They're receiving and rushing props seventy eight and
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: a half for Swift, seventy two and a half for
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones and Swift had the second and
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: third best touchdown props on the slate. I just see
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: so many ways. Low scoring game, highest scoring game. I
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: could see them being optimal in either of them. So
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be playing a lot of the running
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: backs at capt I like the running backs a captain,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: like them at flex a lot, and then the running
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: backs too, like, yeah, Mason, I'm hoping it's gonna be
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: Aaron Jones. Like, I'm definitely gonna play some Mason. I
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: very well might not have any at captain. He's someone
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: that feels like it has to be Javonte. He has
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: to fall in the box twice, probably on the ground,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: because if it's a clear pass catching or a clear
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: throwing down. I just have a hard time seeing Mason
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: be in the game over Aaron Jones. So I think
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: he probably needs a twelve for sixty or seventy on
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: the ground, fall in the box twice for captain flex.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: It only could take once. You can play him with
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Aaron Jones. You can do a lot of different things
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: that way. So I'm fine with Mason in the flex. Again,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I prefer Swift and Aaron Jones for sure, and the
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Monoga and I or however you pronounce this guy's name.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: RB two for the Bears, twenty eight hundred is a
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: real price tag is the thing. I don't love it,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: I really don't. I think they're gonna try and get
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: Swift the ball a ton, They have Dj Moore, who
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: they can give handoffs to, who Ben Jonson loves as
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: receivers coming in the backfield and different like a swing
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: pass that's pretty much a run in his playbook, stuff
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: like that. So I don't know rookie running back very
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: late pick Monday night football, first game. How much does
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Ben Johnson really want to get it to him? I
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: know coach speak, he's been confident in him. But I'm
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: gonna I'm gonna tell myself it's gonna be DeAndre Swift
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: getting that seventy five plus like you're saying with Bell
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Cows and not really play much of Kyle.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: M could be a monogamy over there and it's just
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift. No, no Kyle manang guy. But we'll have
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: to see who. What do you got at the running
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: back position?
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: If twenty eight hundreds of real price tag, I want
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: to know what's an unreal price tag for title?
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: What's four hundred, two hundred when we were talking about
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Smith or twelve hundred with Thornton or whatever. We've seen
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: a lot.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I guess you gotta do it. You gotta do a
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: little something.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe at two hundred would be Monopoly, go with him,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Kyle Monopoly.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: But did we see yesterday Josh Allen went to the
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: tight end that was right there.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, six game. I don't even know what he was
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: doing there.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, just crazy stuff and showdown it
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: is wild.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I really like Aaron Jones and I
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: like DeAndre Swift. Easy to fit them in, easy to
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: play them again. The thing with Swift, it does look
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: like kind of a big price tag eighty eight hundred,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: But man, I just really again, I think that he
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: could have a more dynamic sort of role. I mean,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: he's gonna want which there's no he's not the same player,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but Ben Johnson is gonna probably
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: want him to be Jamiir Gibbs like and obviously he
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: does not have the same ability as Jamiir Gibbs, but like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Ben Johnson is used to having something like that in
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: the offense, and he's probably gonna try to force some
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: of that stuff to Swift. And that's kind of what
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I'm banking on, So in on him, already said, I'm
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: in on Jones. I think the price is just too
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: cheap at seventy four hundred monogamy monogamy or however, Kyle
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: m I guess I like going that round a little
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: bit better. If I get I'm in, Like I'm not
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: like signing up and forcing forcing this guy into the mix.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: But if I get something, I'm fine with it. Then
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the problem I have with Jordan Mason, like at seven K,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: like seven K, like he is four hundred dollars less
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: than Aaron Jones, like eighteen hundred less than than Swift,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Like he's he has to do something. I know we
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: use that term a lot, but he really has to
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: do something at seven K, like he could score a
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: touchdown and not be needed in the in the flex,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know, Like I struggle with that with
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: that price tag, like seven K for a guy I'm
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: not sold on is going to have like a huge role,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Like if I'm paying seven K, you got to have
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: a real role in this offense. Like I'm a little
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: worried with that. He's got to do something. He's got
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: to do something pretty damn big. So he's like four
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars less than the starter. So I mean this
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: is assuming that Swift or that Mason and Jones have
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: a similar role and I just don't think that's going
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: to be the case. I'd I do really struggle with
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: that price tag. So I mean it's mostly just like
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Jones and Swift here in terms of what we're getting
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of Jones and and really not much Swift
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: because probably because of that price tag eighty eight hundred
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: and you know, based on this, you're probably gonna have
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: to force Swift in a little bit, and I'll definitely
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: be doing that today.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: There's a there's a mon in there. Maybe maybe it's
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be his Montgomery to the Swift Gibbs. Maybe that's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: the plan as well as you put that one in there.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: But I forgot too that the chat was talking about
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: like this guy didn't even practice. I don't think he's gonna.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Play yeahs out. So I mean, yeah there that that
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: to me, I just like that makes me like Swift
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: even more. But you know, Monogue, when someone someone in
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: this chat barn guy, there, we go, ok.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: The A is a U. It'snun guy.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: They're gonna be hesitant to use manungay here, I think,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: but they're probably gonna have to a little bit. You know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: how big is it?
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Is?
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: It just like a break here and there for Swift
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: or is he gonna get like a full series. I
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: just don't see him getting a full series, So with
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Rocham being out, I think more of a boost to
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Swift for me. But again, if I get some Manung Guy,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I'm good with it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I'm calling him anon guy. I'm not giving that an
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I had a spelling B right now, and I'll get
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: in the origin of the word. I'm thinking it's Mananan guy.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: But we'll see. But the chat was talking about it like, yeah,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: that's the thing on this slate though he gets one
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: play and I don't know even which way title. I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: know what he was saying, like a real price tag.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: But for me, it's like better that he's that price,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: is what I was thinking. Title. Aren't you like if
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I want let's put it this way. Tell let me
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: frame it better. If I want some Manung Guy, and
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I do, I don't want to have none of Manan guy.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I want some of some guy over here. If I
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: want some, I kind of want it out a price
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that makes people hesitate, not like Horton Mason hesitation. But
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I want some twenty eight hundred.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if he scores four point five, how like what
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: what percent chance do you think he's optimal or obviously five?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: He ain't scoring four point he's either inter out, but
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: he's not optimal. He scores four point nio.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's that's what I yeah. So to look at it,
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: to be more bullish on playing him, if you look
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: at his ownership, then you look at touchdown props, something
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: I like to do in MMA a lot. However, touchdown
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: props you it's pretty skewed. Plus three eighty. That's twenty
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: percent out twenty percent chance that he falls in the
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: box according to DraftKings. Now again, I think they juice
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: those touchdown props so much. They don't have to even
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: if you want to bet no, they don't give you
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: the proper line of no. So you can't just go
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: directly there. But if you want to get overweight on
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: something like that, look at his ownership. Look at his
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: touchdown prop twenty percent versus five. I mean, can't be awful.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I guess the main thing you got to look at
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: when considering someone like that is what's around him and
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: what's the ownership of those guys around him in terms
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: of price. Like obviously, positions don't mean shit. It's just
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: he's playing flux. So you look at it here and
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: you got Zakiyas, who probably gets some ownership. We're showing
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: sixteen percent at two k, so even cheaper. You got
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: the defense. The Bears defense is right there at like
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: eleven percent. Josh Naylor, who someone had a good comment earlier,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: and I started, let's see pull the Naylor. I hardly
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: knew her. That's that's kind of funny. Maybe it's more
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: dad jokish, but yeah, but I do.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Like it too. That's gonna be a dad.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in. Yeah, he's out.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Give me some more months than on my least.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I've got a few more months and they'll start thinking
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: some of this random ship's funny that you and I
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: laugh at, and he's like, man, you guys are old
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: and it's not funny at all. Feeling is still close,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I mean feeling. Who the hell knows with feeling? So
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: like that's the thing, Like he's gotta probably beat those
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: guys and Kenny do it. Like if we're thinking four
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: and a half or five fantasy points, I just don't
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I don't see if he.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: Does, though, Like Tambo said, more Tambo's talking about we're
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: looking at the pricing like you drop feeling down to
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Mnung guy. Hopefully I got it right, and he does
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: fall in the box and outscores him, Like you can
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: be looking at eighty dupes down to four dupes or
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: just something wild like that. With a million up top today,
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: you would that'd be a nice payday. You'd be free
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: roll in the rest of the year, assuming you play
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: the same bankroll.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: That's I just think it's like more of like a
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: you know, if you got oh I this is the name,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I always just the kyas if you put the Kyas
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: down or sorry up eight hundred, like if you got
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: him in a nice lineup, but it leaves a thousand
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: on the table. I don't think you get crushed spending
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that extra eight hundred and leaving two hundred by going
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: to this Manung guy.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: He's gonna get home though. That's the thing, Like people
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: are gonna see oh h Rochon Johnson is out the
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: backup running back is Manung guy at twenty eight hundred,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Like he's gonna get played. I bet he comes in
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: higher whatever we're showing nine right now, nine and a half.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I bet it's higher than that.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: See then I don't like him nearly as much, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: I'm back all on Swift.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It's it's not as sneaky. I don't think it's gonna
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: end up being like a sneaky player. They're gonna see
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: that is the backup running back and he's gonna get
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: He's gonna get home at twenty eight hundred.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what I saw too. Yeah, Demante, we're
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: trying now. We gotta get chats day demonte My boy
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Demante Taylor came through. He says, yeah, who article that
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: got him? And your boy Ben Johnson. There was another
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: article I just pulled up actually said the same thing too.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: But also Roseean did have a limited practice on Saturday.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't see this morning where he was ruled out.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: It's like, I'd be extremely surprised if you say.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, doubtful would be a better way to put it. So, yeah,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: we'll have to see. But either way, let's go to
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: wide receiver. This is a you know, these talking points
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: will all come together, obviously, but we got the chat
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: is all over the place, from the fact that the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Bears are going to score forty today because they could
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: do it with GoF and Ben Johnson could do it
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: with GoF versus they might score thirty combined in their
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: first four games. So I don't know. I just remember
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving American Thanksgiving. I'm Canadian as many no, so
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I celebrate American Thanksgiving with all my boys, and it
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: was like, man, didn't Chick come out and just crush
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: out of the gate that day? What was that spot?
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I think, didn't Caleb come out and just score but
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: finally have like his first good game and everyone was
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: all hyped for it. I don't know, I feel like
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: they could put up points. The people talking about the
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: O line a little better, all this stuff. I think
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: there's a possibility here and we'll see, But like everything
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: seems to be leading towards people just heavy on this
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Minnesota side. I still like Swift, more Odons Williams. I
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: think there's opportunity on this side, at least from a
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: line of perspective, like building your lineup perspective. That's all
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it, all, right, who, I'll let you
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: go wide receiver first, go ahead?
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I kind of agree. I think people are
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: obviously if they're coming to wider receiver, they're going to
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: be looking to Justin Jefferson number one. People I think
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: are still a little bit hesitant not Dj Moore. People
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: are in on Dj Moore probably regardless he had some
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: big games last season, but the rest of the Bearers
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: passing attack. I think people are going to be a
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: little bit hesitant on Dunsa. I think this Luther Birding
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: guy like we talked about, can can be something. Zikias
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: at two k like, he seems like a perfect guy
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: to fit in to the Ben Johnson offense and kind
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: of just do something random. So I do want, like
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I said in the opening, to be kind of overweight
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: on the Bears stuff if possible. And the one thing
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: that definitely stands out here, and this is just strictly
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: by projected points, is when I ran these teams, Zakiyas
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: has shown up fifty two percent of lineup, so about
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: half our lineup, Sakias is showing up in and then
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Dj Moore Adun's a little underweight twenty five percent each.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm I'm in on the Bears passing stuff.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, pass catchers have such a big advantage on
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: DraftKings when you just look at the scoring. Anyone that
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: can catch a pass, I mean, it's huge to be
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: able to pick up those extra points along the way.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: So I want to be in on this Vikings. Yeah, definitely,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson, I think our guy who posted I think
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: it's our thing. It's any that posted earlier, like Adam
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Feeling six for seventy and two touchdowns, like it feels
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: like that could definitely happen, which is insane. Everyone just
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: continues to write them off. They bring him back. It's
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: only forty four hundred dollars Adam Feeling. So I'm I'm
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: definitely gonna be playing some feeling if you're playing, you know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy captain teams, I think Feeling definitely has to
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: be in there. I think Naylor's a fine out. They
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: got a big void to fill with Jordan Edison. I mean,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Addison is a legit number two wide receiver and he
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: is out and nobody else is expensive. I mean we
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: got Justin Jefferson at ten eight, Feeling four four, Naylor
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: three six. You know, I think they're they're both strongly
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: in play. And then what a cool name. Lucky Jackson
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: two hundred bucks. He's got a projection at one. Maybe
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: get a little, maybe get Lucky Lucky with Lucky today
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: we'll see. But the two hundred bucks. I'm not saying
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I'm playing them, but I just thought the name was
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: pretty cool.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: What do you think about this one? Hoop? Our guy
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Stephen Nabors always in here, supporting, appreciate you man, he says,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: compared to those lines of yours, do you think more
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: or Zikias would be?
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: It would have to be Dj Moore, I mean, if possible.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, Zakias is not He's been in the league
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: for a while and he's just not very good. I mean,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: would have to be DJ Moore. I mean, he's just
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: way better than these other dudes, So I think it
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: could be him. You know, obviously Ben Johnson loved that position.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I mean that Saint Brown got a shit ton of targets.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It could easily go to DJ Moore for sure.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: One thing I think about for this, you know, will
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the Bears be running those wide receivers? I think they
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: definitely will. One thing I think about Ben Johnson if
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: he was like somebody, you know, like if he was
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Goff's stepdad and he put him in his room grounded,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: he would stay. Goff would stay right in that corner
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: and do just what his stepdad told him. If Caleb
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Williams gets told what to do by Ben Johnson, I
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: think he's still messing around. I think he's trying to
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: come back out of the room. He's trying to climb
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: out the window, He's trying to do other shit. So
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: I'll be saying this. I think that you could see
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Caleb Williams just get out of hand tonight with some
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: stuff and that can work out sometimes, Like I'm talking
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: about getting you talk about Lucky Jackson on the other side,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I think you could see him just toss up some
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: of these plays and like who caught that? And we're
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: all trying to figure out is it LB three I'm
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: calling them now, Luther Van Dross, Luther Burden, the third,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: is it Oz? Is it Rome? Who is it? And
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: then you just gotta wait till they get off the
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: ground to see who has the ball. So there's a
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: lot of options on the Chicago side, And that's why
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I really don't care. It'll matter in the end, of course,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: how many points actually get scored and what the game
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: ends up like. But I just, man, this Chicago side
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: is so spread out that I just think there's a
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: ton of different ways that can go. Even like title
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: we talked about it last week. Some maybe didn't catch
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: those shows last week when you won the one hundred
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: and thirteen K in the Super Bowl, like that was
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: nowhere till it was everywhere. Worthy catches the bomb at
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the end, it's a two four build with him in.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: It catches a seventy five yard bomb or whatever it was,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and the rest of the lineup was so solid that
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: it's like, that's that's what this could be. It didn't
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: matter what the score was. We're playing fantasy. We're not
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: playing We're not betting here. We're not betting on who
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: wins this game. We're betting on what lineup exceeds everything,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: scores the most points and out does the competition, hopefully
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: to a solo solo ship so that it's not a
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: chop and it's a million dollars straight. So I think
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that's one of the common themes I'm seeing with that side.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: You can make the case for the other side, it's
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: just that side. I feel like we'll be a little
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: bit more condensed. And I also think, like if we
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: were talking, I was talking, you know Ben Johnson's stepdad, Well,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: if he's the dad, it's like, isn't Kevin O'Connell, his dad.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: They might be the same age, but it kind of
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: reminds me like I think Kevin O'Connell's like the big
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: dog and Ben Johnson's like the young pup. So it
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: feels like that, and they'll both be trying to show
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: that tonight. But I don't know if you've got something
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: else to add there a title, But that's where I'm
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: at with it all. I think that's just you know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to spread it out and build accordingly.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be the key.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, one thing I want to say to Hoop,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, just saw Underdog come across Campbell's gonna get
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: to slaw involved more like what is Khalif Rayman out
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: there doing running fifty percent of routes when you got
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: one handed snake, big dude out there makes a play
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: at the end and to SLA. Hopefully we see that
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: that change pretty soon.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Hopefully, because I think every single little Best Ball draft
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I did this summer, Tesla is like one of my
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: last picks. I'm hoping and that dude dominated like, yeah,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: they're going to Cleif Raymond to end. It's like just
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: insane and I just really don't think Ben Johnson would
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: have ever had them in that sort of scenario. That
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: was That was just terrible. Man.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I also hate it, by the way, I'm just saying
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I hate his name, Like why do you have to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: say Tesla the emphaside just be Tesla or Tesla.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I just go Tesla.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: But man, I come, I don't know how the chain, like, yeah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: That was that catch was insane, though it isn't like crazy.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I was obviously watching the game, and the commentators are
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: kind of like brushing it off, like it wasn't a catch.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Like as soon as I saw the region, that's a catch, Like,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: what are you what are you guys talking about?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: You know, the DeAndre Hopkins made a catch. Maybe yeah,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: maybe feeling got some juice left, But I thought that
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Hopkins catch was crazy.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: I got feeling.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I got a feeling. It's going to be a feeling.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: Feelings seems similar, not maybe quite as good as the
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Keenan spot on Friday, but an old guy that they
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: brought back in that they're dealing with injuries, I mean,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: Quinn's like Johnson had a concussion in preseason. They didn't
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: love the Trey Harris so Keenan just walks into number
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: two with someone that he has rapport with. Obviously Thelm
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: doesn't ever pour with McCarthy, No one really does. But
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: he's going to be forced into like his props better
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: than nailor his props one yard less than Loveland. It's
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: twenty seven and a half, so it's not great, but
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: drop fifty eight hundred down to forty four hundred Loveland
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: down to feelin you're giving up absolutely nothing. Like he
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: still has legs. I think in the beginning of the
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: year he dominated for Carolina to start the year last
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: year in the slot. As the year goes, the body
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: breaks down a little. Maybe he lose this step there.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: But I like you, I like the price tag.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Everyone just wants to be the first to write off
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: these guys as they start getting older. And we talked
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: about the Keenan Allen thing. I mean again, like, I
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: hate to be like the guy him back to best
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: ball stuff, but no one wanted to draft him. I've
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: taken a ton of Keenan Allen, like, not like he
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: looked terrible last year. He's just in a shitty offense
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: and now he goes to a comfortable spot. He looked
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: damn good. There's a reason they brought him there. There's
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: a reason they brought feeling back here to this situation,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: and he played very well last season. He didn't show
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: any signs of slowing down. We're just always too quick
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: or you know, everyone in this industry just wants to
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: be the first to write someone off. All I've told
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: you he was getting old and dusty, Like look at
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson. People are just saying that for years and
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: the guy kept coming up out, showing up and producing,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: like these guys can in their thirties, can still can
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: still play ball. So I'm definitely feeling yeah, yeah, that's
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: the thing about Keenan Allen. He's thirty, thirty two or
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: thirty three years old, Like why why is everyone saying
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: he's done? Like thirty three? You're like, aren't you your
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: your prime? Like that's your peak physical age?
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Like, man, people showed out too early. That Hopkins catch
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: was up though, moving me up the second I was
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: about to sleep, and then I woke me right up,
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: and then the game just like you said, though, Tambo
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: about the worthy stuff, Josh Allen, Kean Coleman, like they
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: were non existent until they absolutely needed them, that's the
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: fourth quarter counts the same.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: And Danny reminded me too, Yeah, feeling summer throwing sessions
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: with McCarthy over the last two years bringing him back.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: So maybe he does got some rapport there, I.
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: Mean routes on air against nobody. Yeah, timing wise, it
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: can help, sure.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: But six to eight throwing sessions per summer together, they said, yeah, that's.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Information right there.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: I like him anyway. So what stands out to me
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: A Dunsay over DJ Moore? Like DJ Moore's sixteen hundred
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: dollars more expensive. I look at these two is the
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: absolute same. Kenny w Like, you build the lineup, go
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: more down to Donsay, you're giving up pretty much nothing,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: in my opinion, Who don't I like? I don't love
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Naylor too much again, he's gonna be a white receiver three,
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: but I do much prefer theeling. It's Jefferson, it's theling
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Naylor I guess is okay, it's a doonsday. It's more
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: it's the Kias. I don't know how many shots I'll
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: be taken at Burden just because I mean it's a
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: forty eight hundred, like you actually have to do something
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: six might not be enough. However, Yeah, I mean we
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: talked about earlier as a rookie as upside, Ben Johnson
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: can do crazy things. If you're playing one hundred and fifty,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: maybe get some If I was playing twenty year or less,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: I would just keep telling myself, Sakias is gonna hold
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: that role like he did in preseason, and I think
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: he has very solid first price take.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Man, this might be why they went and got him.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: This guy. Thelan just loves McCarthy. He was writing paragraphs
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: while he was stating paragraphs by verbalizing what turned in
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: to be paragraphs on this thing. Just praising him big time.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I'm really excited now in my second summer working with
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: him to see him get an opportunity, see what he
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: gets to does, what he gets to do because on
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: the field, just his mindset, all the things that comes.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I am so in on feeling though, Like I mean,
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I think that is.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: Over twenty seven and a half. That's what his receiving
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: yards is, twenty seven and a half.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Let's go, man, man, I'm going right now.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: My buddy twenty minutes ago said and a half touches
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: is feeling like over to half catches.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I mean I hate to be swayed by news so much,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: but I'm I'm literally I'm right now firing on that. Seriously.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Twenty seven and a half.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm staring at h That's got it.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: That's got it.
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: I didn't even get better.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Do you endorse it? You're the sports betting expert on
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: the show. Do you endorse the play?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, let's go in the first quarter.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Really, he's going to him early. I'm telling you, he
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: is going to him.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: If I get you a better line. You don't care
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: about shopping, do you?
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, it depends how it depends how big I'm going.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I'll shop if I'm going big.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Twenty six and a half on FanDuel, it looks to
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: be Probably.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of ways to get different
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: there on that who you mentioned earlier, love it, loving Hawkinson.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: We got to keep it rolling to get through this.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: But there's Hawkinson the option. I think the Chicago side
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: gets a little bit more murky at tight end because
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: there's different options there. But what are you doing at
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the tight end position?
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, don't go to a fanatics thirty and
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: I know Fando's better on both.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, trying to do a little back doctor situation where Kenny,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: they asked, is he over three hundred pounds? Is that
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: maybe why your back might be hurting? He says. Now,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I'm six five two forty, just old bones, and he's
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: thirty one. But he, I mean he looks thirty two.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: It's okay, Kenny, You're fine.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Uh tight end the already talked about it. I mean definitely,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Uh let me switch it over here. It's new feature
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: that they have on the sabersim very mood. Yeah, I'm
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: be in on I mean definitely in on Hockinson for sure,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: like really really like him. Uh we got thirty five percent,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: but after that we really didn't get too much again
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: just by projecting score. But yeah, Loveland combat, I think
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: both fine options. Loveland very solid player fifty eight hundred,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: you know, because maybe goes a little bit overlooked. I mean,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: first game in the NFL comet has you know, been
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: been solid? You know, Oliver as a cheap option maybe,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: but I mean for me, I just I really like
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Hawkinson tonight and be playing a lot.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Of him ten times. The ownership on Hawkinson and Oliver
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: get a little I mean there it's obviously very warranted.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Like this Oliver guy kind of reminds
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: me of last night what you saw with Buffalo. It
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: may not even end up being him, but just so
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: you will see those spots Kin kid crushed in his job.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I expect from Hawkinson tonight. Similar but it
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: was like little things that the Buffalo Bills were trying
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: to do differently down the stretch. That's where you get
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: lucky with Oliver. But I could definitely see it and
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: it would tilt a lot of people because I think
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Hawkinson will pick up a little steam for good reason.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: So Hawkinson is just so cheap. You can play at
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: the Captain for best buy pricing ninety nine hundred not
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: ten K ninety nine hundred title. You get the job
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: done with Hawkinson up top. So I like that call
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: what do you got title when it comes to that.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm curious more on the Chicago side because I
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: think the other side is pretty self explanatory.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm indifferent with tight Ends as a whole, like
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: Loveland's receiving prop being twenty eight and a half, they
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: just have so many weapons, Like I felt so much
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: better with Tyler Warren in the Colts offense yesterday than
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: I do here, just because you're competing with more guys.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: It feels like, honestly, I might even prefer Cole Comet,
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: who I think will be half the ownership. He is
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: four K, but I think they run a lot of
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: toll personnel they did in the few series they got
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: in the preseason. Cole Commette has been here for a
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: long time as well. He can catch passes like you
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: can drop a Loveland down to Cole Comett eighteen hundred.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: I don't hate that at all. I think they both
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: get a decent amount of playing time. I think they
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: run the football Josh Oliver like he's just going to
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: be someone in play because there's not too many viable cheapies.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: And the Vikings will run some two tight end sets
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: as well, so I don't love tight end when I
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: like in that range of stuff, like I prefer kickers
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: and they're cheaper like the Loveland the Comets, or they're
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: in between. I guess when he gets a kicker, I
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: prefer both sides.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering the Cole Comet stuff like this is you know,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Loveland is where people want to go, and probably again
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: for good reason. But could it just be that they
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: stick with the tried, tested and true like that. That
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: could be the scenario as well. We saw this with
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: some teams yesterday, So.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: Maybe they don't want to play a bunch of the kias,
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: like why not just go more like a doomsday DJ
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Comet Loveland Swift. You got a good running, you got
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: your play action. I wouldn't be surprised if we see
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: I saw a good amount of that.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Hoop, you're the Detroit guy? Here
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: has Ben Johnson going to deploy the tight end? Pulling
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the comment up some I'm curious.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: It's good comment. I mean, yeah, the Porta was more
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: of like just a touchdown or bus sort of guy,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you. Uh, And I wouldn't be
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: shocked in the projections not great, I mean seven and
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: a half for fifty eight hundred. Yeah, I mean maybe
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: a little more optimistic, a little more cautious optimistic when
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: playing him, But man, I don't maybe I don't love
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: it as much as I thought. I mean, that's a
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: good point. I mean, and there's so many other guys
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: that you can play. Fifty eight got it? That's a
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: price tag that's a real price tag. That is a
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: real price tag at fifty eight four k for Commet.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I'm not as sold. I mean,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: probably better suited for uh Caleb Williams captain teams.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: What about this go ahead?
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: Someone's hitting that bat by the way, FanDuel got twelve
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: twelve cents on me. They hear fand people of people running.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: So you know, man better, I better, I better double
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: down here before it gets too high.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it might hit in the first quarter. But one
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: thing I just thought about too now that I'm seeing
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: the chart, and then I went back and looked and confirmed.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like they do like this this twelve personnel.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: They also brought in Durham smythe off the Dolphins is
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: a veteran dude, has nothing to do. I'm not worried
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: about Dura. If he gets there, great for him. But
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I'm saying I think it does signify they're gonna want
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: to run that out there. And so if you're gonna
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: see more odoonsa Loveland than Comet a bunch, and Comet's
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: gonna come in at like half the ownership at eighteen
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: hundred bucks less of love them, which could be the case.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: I think there's two things. One you can play them
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: both together. Two you could also because everyone's gonna be
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: on more and Odoonze for good reason above them. But
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: two you could definitely have some Loveland lineups that just
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: drop down to Comet, leave the salary it's eighteen hundred
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: bucks and do it that way. And it's not that
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Durham smite to talk about Durham
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: smythe I'm talking with him because bringing that in kind
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: of frames up of how they're setting things up and
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: what they might be going heavy with out of the gate,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: and that could be what they try and come out
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: instantly with. And I'd like the chat with How about
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: earlier too, if the Minnesota d coming in hot right
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: out of the gates at Caleb Williams, what's the easiest
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: way Swift? Like I think now I'm thinking about a
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: lineup in my head even like a Swift with both
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: tight ends and Caleb, and it's just check down, check down, checkdown,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: end zone. You can it all. It's one of those
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: four Like, yes, I love DJ Moore, I have a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: ton of them, oduonsay, yes, all this stuff. But if
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: you do something like that. That's a way to just
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: get unique and different because you're using you're leaving the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: most popular guys outside of outside of Swift, who is
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: a running back and the quarterback in Kleb, but with
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: DJ Moore and Odonsay left out, that would be a
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: way to do it, to get a little bit different,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: and they could use them that way. So yeah, I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: kind of just thinking a loud about that stuff. That's
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: my two cents to round at the tight end anything
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: with kickers and d's either of you, Like one person
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: can really take this in the spirit of time, But
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: what do you guys, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna play all four, Like, I think this is the game.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: I'm most interested at all four of all of them,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: and I guess that kind of partly will have to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: do of like not loving the cheap ish mid tier
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: manong and I ranges like I can go like I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: don't love the bird and stuff, even going from a TJ.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Hockinson down to one of these four. I don't think
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: it's crazy like the unders event smashing. It's a division game.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, Kalbe can definitely make mistakes. Who knows about McCarthy.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: One play could be six change it for defenses, ownership
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: and check and yeah, I mean obviously these two offenses
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: install NBC field goals and lower So I like all
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: four really, yeah, do.
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  Speaker 1: Us a favor. Danny knows he's supporting now in all causes,
• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Sunday show ten am Eastern. So just a little note,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: I would say, like, you know, for me, I'm fine
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: playing them all, but I'm playing them accordingly. And that's
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: where like, oh yeah, these guys just play one hundred
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: and fifty lineup to do whatever and play everything. It's like, no,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: we're playing it all to a theme. And so for me,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: like I said, just thinking back to the original comment
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: of like, if I'm playing five ones, well then there's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be defenses and kickers involved in those because it
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: could be that that happens and it's a lower scoring game.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: So some of those will probably have that there could
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: be a game where it's a lower scoring closer game,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: and I got both kickers one from each on the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: team together. So it's just again I always say, it's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: not who you play, it's how you play them. Everybody
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: knows that, But it's just this is the scenario specifically
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: where I think there's a lot of thought just because
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: the spread says one and a half. Well, the total
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: in the Pittsburgh Jets game yesterday said thirty seven and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: a half. That was done real quick, and I think
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: both what if both teams almost go? It was just
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: insane scoring. That's crazy. So I think that's what I'm
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: thinking about in Week one. It's just I don't think
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: just because the spread says this that it means that.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: And therefore, yeah, lots of different ways you can get different,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: but some builds, which is what everybody here wants to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: know about and focus on. I think the five ones,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: the four two's, the two fours the other way, like
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: things like that are how you can get different on
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: this slate and still not be stupid. I was talking
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: about like getting unique while not being completely stupid. Obviously,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: if you cap every lineup at forty K and you
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: just leave ten grand on the table in every lineup,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: you can easily make a portfolio of one hundred and
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: fifty unique lineups that would solo ship a millie if
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: they hit, but those probably aren't. That's probably not where
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: it lands. And there's probably really good lineups that spend
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: like forty eight five or forty eight k that are fine.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if you have anything else, Hoop
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: you want to add there? If not, take in the FanDuel.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean on both sides, kickers and defenses, just
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: real quick. I mean, I know you guys talked about
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: it well, but I am probably in a little bit
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: more on the defenses than I typically am. You know,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: how much do I get We'll see, but I wouldn't
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: be opposed to having more than I usually get, which
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: isn't really saying much because I usually get somewhere close
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: to zero. On the defenses, they've worked out well so far, FanDuel,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of you know, with their structure
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: being the same, a lot of the stuff's applicable, so
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: we're kind of just looking for more price differences.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: One thing that definitely stands out justin Jefferson way up
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: there at fourteen to eight compared to the quarterbacks Caleb
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Williams only twelve six, so twenty two hundred dollars different
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: than a twenty eight hundred dollars difference all the way
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: down to McCarthy. And then the running backs I think
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: are pretty cheap over there, Aaron Jones ten to four,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: but then DeAndre Swift, where he's more expensive on DK,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: he's all the way down to ninety four hundred, So
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I added, you know, different tiers justin Jefferson quarterbacks and
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: then running backs below Adam oh Man bad not well.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: I guess it depends what he does, but seventy eight
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: hundred much more expensive over on FanDuel opposed to d K.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Jordan Mason looks a little bit cheaper over here tight
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: ends maybe a little bit cheaper. And then you know
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: Managa or what's how do you say his name? Mcnong
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: guy much cheaper over here fourteen hundred, so maybe better
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: value or definitely better value option over here if you
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: think he gets some playing time. So the big thing is,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: you know, justin Jefferson way more expensive running backs, specifically Swift,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: look to be cheaper, and then Feelan has a much
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: bigger price tag on FanDuel than DraftKings.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Any takeaways from you title.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Same as Hoop said, then the only additional one is
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: the defenses are priced like the Vikings is over or
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: price more than Reichord and the Bears defense is priced
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: more than Santos, which is definitely different than DraftKings. That
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: only defenses have even lower owned on FanDuel, kickers a
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: little higher owned on Draftings.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, love that call because that's kind of the difference
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: is what you're looking for that you'll see at the
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: end of the night. It's just it's nice that FanDuel
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: fixed their format, but if you're not doing things differently
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: still like looking to angle in for different captains or
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: you know, leaving the money on the table or kind
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: of comparing those price differences. That's why I like the stone.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: If you go to ship a Nation, you can easily
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: just see it right there. It's built in to the stone.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Left side is DraftKings, right side is FanDuel. We have
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: all the breakdown for the ownership, the MVP stuff, just
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: really everything that you're looking for to be able to
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: find a way to get different and on this slate
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: it's no different that way. So I think you should
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: check it out. Go to ship atnation dot com, hoop
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: anything else you want to add before we get out
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: of here.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Uh, just like we talked about in the opening with
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: the marking stuff, you can still get in Ship of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Games just because you missed out on the week one draw.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: If you're not a member, you get in now. You
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: are automatically enrolled for the drawing for for week two,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: so you can still get in a chance to win
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: over twenty thousand dollars for first place total prizes eighty
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: thousand right around eighty thousand to this point. So you
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: can still get in even though you missed out on
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: that first week draw. As soon as you become a
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: member at ship a nation, you're automatically enrolled in the program.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: And the longer you're in, the more ballots you get,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: so you get in the better. That's kind of the
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: set up there, and everybody that's already in in those
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: carryover but huge first week I thought it was awesome.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Slinkster fifty bucks into fifteen thousand, right. Doug Craig three
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty into forty three hundred said, keep preaching
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: the process. That is what we're talking about. Everybody out
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: there just says, trust the process, learn how to get
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: better at DFS, and just go do it, but nobody's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: teaching them or they're not being able to be taught,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of the key. Our man
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: sweet boy Eden got the job done. Fifteen k up
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: top first place, finished with a Baker Mayfield lineup, and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: then official Vic said solid start to the season, hashtag
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: team ship it. He was in low low entries. I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: think it was like a two hundred three hundred bucks
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: and turn it into seventeen hundred as well, So lots
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: of good start outs. A Shaloub had a bunch of scores.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I don't have him up here. There was our man
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Gee Rising shipped like three hundred bucks in the nine
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: k or something on the first night, and he's out
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: there drinking and fishing and doing all kinds of ridiculousness.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: So lots of good starting points for the community. And
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: don't worry, like we always say, week one ain't over yet.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: So if you haven't had a good week yet, I'm
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: having a horrible start to my first week and I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: could win a million dollars tonight. And that's what it's
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: all about. It's why we do this, so why we
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: love it. Some close calls last night too, and then
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: I had to get that defeat mixed in with the
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Ravens defeat, so it was not a good night for
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: your boy on the East Coast. It's an hour ahead
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: of even up people on the East Coast, so you know,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: staying up late for that shit ain't no fun. But
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: we appreciate you all. Thank you guys so much for watching.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: We'll be back two Man Booth this week actually be
• 1:07:45
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• 1:07:47
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• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: down the Thursday night football slate. It's a Green Bay game,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I know that much, so Cheeseheads Unite should be a
• 1:07:54
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