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Son of a Biscuit · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. Holy Moly, son of a Biscuit, it's
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  Speaker 1: time for the well. I do love when benzos son
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  Speaker 1: of a biscuit. Oh, it's so safe. It's just so safe.
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  Speaker 1: And now that it's became a routine life, I can say, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Almost Famous podcast. Ashley. How are you holding up?
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing? I know, Uh, life for you
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  Speaker 1: has been wild because yes, we just got back from Tahoe.
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  Speaker 1: This week can be easy as a mom leaving for
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what were you go on? Like two and
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  Speaker 1: a half days. But even then coming back, it's not
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  Speaker 1: even It wasn't even forty eight hours. Really, Oh it
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  Speaker 1: was actually fourty eight hours after I landed, but I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't in Tahoe for a full forty eight hours. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: was it hard? That's a question I want to ask.
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  Speaker 1: And you got back now, I know you've you've been
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  Speaker 1: gone just a few times, But does it get difficult leaving? Um?
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  Speaker 1: I get really anxious, like my anxiety spikes, but I
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  Speaker 1: also at the same time, I feel like so alive
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  Speaker 1: and free and I am like so chatty. I was
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  Speaker 1: making jokes with everybody in Tahoe that like, I have
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  Speaker 1: never talked that much of my life because I'm home
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  Speaker 1: alone with a baby all day and I do talk
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  Speaker 1: to Dawson in an adult voice a lot. But it's
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  Speaker 1: just really nice to not be around crying for like
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  Speaker 1: forty eight hours. And I just like, no, it's really
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  Speaker 1: good for my soul. I'm about the same time, like
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  Speaker 1: I have like some mad anxiety. Like Jared had his
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  Speaker 1: dad take Dawson in his car, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: your dad needs to take the Yukon. He needs to
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  Speaker 1: be in the Yukon, and like I just want the
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  Speaker 1: car the way to Ford's house, like literally, like I
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  Speaker 1: have like those kind of triggers, like I started crying
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  Speaker 1: because I wanted the kid like in a certain vehicle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that makes sense. I will say this, Actually, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if it makes you feel better or worse. One
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  Speaker 1: of the best things my parents did for me was
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  Speaker 1: they were good at like going on trips together, and
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  Speaker 1: they would leave me with grandparents or like a family
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  Speaker 1: friend for just a few days. It wasn't like they
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  Speaker 1: left me forever, but it did allow me to I think,
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  Speaker 1: as I got older, become more comfortable being away and
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  Speaker 1: not being so homesick because I think I have it
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  Speaker 1: in me to get really homesick. It's crazy to bring
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  Speaker 1: this up because that's so timely in my life right now.
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  Speaker 1: So my best friends getting married in Italy in September,
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  Speaker 1: and the plan the entire time has been to bring Dawson,
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  Speaker 1: make it sort of a family vacation. My parents are invited,
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  Speaker 1: and it's my sister and my best friend, like it's
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  Speaker 1: a collective best friend so, like my sister's fiance is
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  Speaker 1: coming out. The plan was hopefully it was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: like the six of us in Italy for a whole week,
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  Speaker 1: and my dad has been so reluctant to go, which
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  Speaker 1: is like a whole weird thing. He just my dad, like,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't I feel like he's on vacation unless he's chilling
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  Speaker 1: at home, like he has the week off, but he
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  Speaker 1: really wants to like decompress at home. And he also is,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, this is like so insane. Our dog
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  Speaker 1: ethel my parents dog has become their actual child, and
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  Speaker 1: he will like he's so concerned about leaving her for
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  Speaker 1: a week, which is like a totally unhealthy He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: trust anybody to take care of her, so like that's
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  Speaker 1: a whole other reason why he doesn't want to leave.
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  Speaker 1: He legitimately has not been on vacation since he got
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  Speaker 1: this dog. He can never get a dog in he's
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  Speaker 1: got a snug Okay, So like the whole thing, My
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  Speaker 1: parents are just not sure they're still going. And I
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  Speaker 1: know this is like five weeks away, five six weeks away,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not sure. And in the past twenty four hours,
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  Speaker 1: I've really been thinking, like, should I keep dawstin with
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  Speaker 1: my parents because which they've offered and they'd love to do,
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  Speaker 1: or in like that way, Jared and I can go
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  Speaker 1: on a vacation the two of us, like five days
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  Speaker 1: in Italy. We wouldn't make it seven in this case,
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  Speaker 1: but like five days in Italy with me, him, my
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  Speaker 1: future brother in law, and my sister and just like
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  Speaker 1: have like a whimsical little experience like we probably need that.
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  Speaker 1: We we did it in June and it was so
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  Speaker 1: eyes like so good for our relationship. And now I'm
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  Speaker 1: feeling like this could be really nice if we left
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  Speaker 1: him alone, But then we have this weird then of
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  Speaker 1: course we have to get the parent guilt, and then
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  Speaker 1: we miss him a lot, especially those first couple of
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  Speaker 1: days like you have, like a little bit of separation anxiety,
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  Speaker 1: and then we settled in on our first little vacation.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think we should do? I think you
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  Speaker 1: and Jared need to go. I think you and Jared
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  Speaker 1: need to go. I think you need to give your dad.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, your dad is asking for time at home.
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  Speaker 1: I know he probably would love to go to Italy
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  Speaker 1: with you. All I know is that as stupid, my
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  Speaker 1: dad doesn't want to go to Italy. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: get it. He has a stressful job. He doesn't get
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  Speaker 1: to be home and decompress, probably very often because he's
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  Speaker 1: on call and because he's dealing with people's lives and
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  Speaker 1: their health. I think you give him what he wants.
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  Speaker 1: You give him that free excuse where he doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to feel guilty for not going, and then you and
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  Speaker 1: Jared go have an incredible time together because you are
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  Speaker 1: the two most important people in your in each other's lives.
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  Speaker 1: You're obviously Dawson is ex really important. But if if
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  Speaker 1: you and Jared don't have a healthy functioning relationship, it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be to the benefit of Dawson. So
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  Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta keep investing into that when the
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  Speaker 1: opportunities arise and your great parents, you're around a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like Dawson's ever gonna feel neglected or pushed
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  Speaker 1: aside um. So I think you two need to go
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  Speaker 1: because I will. I will say it was something that
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  Speaker 1: helped me as I got older, when my parents would say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you're going over here, like we need to do our thing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: As you know, now, I can move to Denver, thousands
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  Speaker 1: of miles away from him, still talk to him often,
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  Speaker 1: still see them often, But I don't have that like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I have to be home kind of
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  Speaker 1: feeling and I never really have. And that's made allowed
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  Speaker 1: me to have a lot of freedom in life. Uh
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  Speaker 1: that I appreciate. So that's my two cents. My two
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  Speaker 1: cents are, yeah, you gotta go have fun. Hey, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned right before we got on the podcast that
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  Speaker 1: you have a lot to talk about when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to this last episode. I have a lot to talk
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  Speaker 1: about when it comes to this last episode. So let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about it right after we take a second and
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  Speaker 1: have a little break, all right, Ashley's time for Bachelor Headlines.
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  Speaker 1: Listeners listen up. Amanda Cyford reveals her favorite reality show,
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  Speaker 1: Guilty Pleasure. This according to Parade, this was a it
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  Speaker 1: was a video interview that I've been tagged in a
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  Speaker 1: few times Ashley big fan. I'm a big fan of
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  Speaker 1: Amanda Cyford. So take it away. Well, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: have a little background knowledge on this headline, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to read like the quotes first. Amanda Cyfrid was
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  Speaker 1: on the j Kaide Show on Series x AUM this
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  Speaker 1: week and she said that she loves the authenticity the show.
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  Speaker 1: She particularly like like Gabby. She thinks she's very um,
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  Speaker 1: self reflective, self confident. She goes, yeah, she has her issues,
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  Speaker 1: we all do, but she expresses herself in a way articulates,
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  Speaker 1: and her articulates herself in a way that she really appreciates. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if Amanda has come out publicly about
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  Speaker 1: her bachelor love before, because I was actually talking to
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  Speaker 1: a guest that we have on later in the episode,
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  Speaker 1: executive producer All Star A Lawan Gail, Mr Officiant at
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  Speaker 1: my wedding, and he told me years ago that Amanda
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  Speaker 1: kept her fandom a little bit on the d L.
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  Speaker 1: But now she's obviously talking about it, and I knew
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  Speaker 1: that she was a fan not just from Alan, but
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  Speaker 1: because I met her at the Harry Styles concert and
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  Speaker 1: I guess was too December, I think, and we were
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  Speaker 1: in l A. I knew from a lan that she
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  Speaker 1: was a fan, and she was standing right in front
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  Speaker 1: of me at the concert and I tapped her on
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  Speaker 1: the shoulder and I go hey, and she goes, Oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, Ashley, I I am such a fan. She was.
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  Speaker 1: She said the kindest things to me. It was my
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  Speaker 1: favorite celebrity fan encounter, like truly, she was the warmest,
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  Speaker 1: the kindest, and it's stuck. It's the It's the one
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  Speaker 1: celebrity encounter of like the Bachelor fans that are celebrities.
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  Speaker 1: That why I will remember forever and she um, she
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  Speaker 1: she apparently listened to our podcast. That was That was it?
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  Speaker 1: That was it? And she listened to our podcast. She said,
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  Speaker 1: I listened to your podcast. And I had been told
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  Speaker 1: by Alan that she was a listener, and then she
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  Speaker 1: confirmed it there with me, and I was like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, that is too cool. Um. And then in
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  Speaker 1: this interview that she did with Serious XM, she was
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  Speaker 1: questioned about who from the franchise she would date, and
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  Speaker 1: she said no, no one, before hesitating and admitting I
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  Speaker 1: would say Ben, Ben's the only one. When I met Ben,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I really really appreciate you. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what it is. I just there's there's no one
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  Speaker 1: I can think of going out on a date with,
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  Speaker 1: none of them except for freaking Ben Higgins. I just
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  Speaker 1: added to that freaking Ben Higgins line. But how cool?
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  Speaker 1: That's sweet? She's it was just a sweet human, talented,
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  Speaker 1: beautiful sweet. I mean, that's just a nice thing to say.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't need to say that, but she said it.
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  Speaker 1: Um So, you know, we watch her movies, she listens
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  Speaker 1: to our podcast. You know, she scratches our back, we
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  Speaker 1: scratch hers. Just a nice little circle of friendship here.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, it's always fun to hear you know what
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  Speaker 1: celebrities are out there that are actually tuning into the show.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know she was a fan of the show.
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  Speaker 1: I think Allan might have mentioned it, you know, years
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  Speaker 1: ago to me as well. But just really awesome. So
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  Speaker 1: thanks for the thanks for the confidence boost, Amanda. That
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  Speaker 1: means a lot to me today. I needed that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it never hurts to have a little you know, gusto
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  Speaker 1: in your step as you walk out the door. Well
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  Speaker 1: onto other headlines. This is about a Bachelor Nation alumni
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  Speaker 1: who just got engaged. Bachelor Nations Madison Prew engaged to
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  Speaker 1: Grant Michael Trout. This according to E you guys all
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  Speaker 1: saw the Instagram pictures. I'm sure she was in a
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  Speaker 1: studding dress and she says, and the caps are in
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  Speaker 1: her story as are like in a following post or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: She was like, this is the dress that I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to wear from my engagement. I was like, excuse me, what,
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  Speaker 1: how do you know the day to wear it? So
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  Speaker 1: apparently she did kind of know it was coming, at
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  Speaker 1: least in the moment, because she had her mom and
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  Speaker 1: sister meet her in this bathroom at this hotel and
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  Speaker 1: her fiance, Grant I think, was not supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: in town this day, and then he end up showing
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  Speaker 1: up and then they're in the bathroom with her, getting
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  Speaker 1: her already for like a moment that she's gonna go
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  Speaker 1: and enter the beach very bachelor esque style, right, And
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  Speaker 1: they had the dress with them and said put this on.
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  Speaker 1: So then you know, she walks out to the beach
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  Speaker 1: and she's pretty much convinced that she that he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: get down on one knee and she says that the
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  Speaker 1: moment or he grant was worth the weight that was
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  Speaker 1: her Instagram cashi And but listen a lot she's getting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of hate for this because she's like twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven and uh, they're like, wow, worth the wait, girl,
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  Speaker 1: you're so young. I get it. I get it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know. It's also I proposed to my wife, who
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  Speaker 1: is from a similar area to Maddie right uh down south,
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  Speaker 1: and at this a lot of Jica's friends were already
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  Speaker 1: married when I proposed to her. It's just a different
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  Speaker 1: you know, matters where you live in the country. I
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  Speaker 1: think where maybe it's it's more likely you get married
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  Speaker 1: a young age or you don't. I mean, I've said
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  Speaker 1: it before I was thirty years old. Actually, let's go
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  Speaker 1: back when I was on The Bachelor at twenty six six,
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  Speaker 1: I was one of three of my friends who were
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  Speaker 1: either not married or in a relationship that led to
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  Speaker 1: their marriage. So it's just different, I think from the
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  Speaker 1: Midwest and the South. It just different, different age groups.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I shared this yet with you, actually,
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  Speaker 1: if I did, just tell me to be quiet. But Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: my wife, spent some time at a farm in Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: I shared this with you, No, I don't think about
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  Speaker 1: two week and a half ago, and Maddie and Hannah
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  Speaker 1: Brown were there, were there with her. It was kind
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  Speaker 1: of like a getaway trip uh at Boots Ranch, Boots Farms,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's actually called in Chattanooga, uh, Tennessee. And
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  Speaker 1: Jessica left that trip and said, wow, like Addie is amazing,
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  Speaker 1: Like she had a blast And now I think they
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  Speaker 1: like text and like voice message each other. Just really
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  Speaker 1: just enjoyed her time with Maddie and her sister and
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  Speaker 1: her friends. So um, you know, that's all. I've never
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  Speaker 1: met Maddie in person, but that's all I know. And
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  Speaker 1: Jessica just had really great things to say about her. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's great. This story continues because she was on Amazon
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  Speaker 1: Live with Grant a couple of days after the proposal,
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  Speaker 1: in which she said that day that he proposed literally
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  Speaker 1: changed our lives. I know that some people think that
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  Speaker 1: being together just eight months before getting engaged as short,
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  Speaker 1: but she goes, honestly, when you know, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: something that we have made a commitment to do is
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  Speaker 1: to pursue purity and wait till marriage, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: have sex, and because of that, we're not trying to
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  Speaker 1: have a super long engagement, and so because of that,
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  Speaker 1: we're like, let's wrap this up. How quickly can we go?
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  Speaker 1: How quickly can we get down the aisle? How do
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  Speaker 1: you feel about that? You guys waited a long time
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  Speaker 1: after your engagement. You know, it is very much a
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  Speaker 1: an individual, you know, kind of relational decision. Jessica and
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  Speaker 1: I obviously had gone down two different paths in life,
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  Speaker 1: but as we met, we thought it was important for
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  Speaker 1: us and we thought it was at the best, it
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  Speaker 1: was the healthiest for us to wait for Maddie and Grant.
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people had very strong opinions
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  Speaker 1: on what was right and what wasn't. I just don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you can make that judgment call, Like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if there's a right or wrong way to
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  Speaker 1: go about it. I think there's things that I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I just think there's a healthiest way to go about it,
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  Speaker 1: and that's whatever is best for the two of you.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever you decide, we will bring you the most joy
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  Speaker 1: and peace and you know, prosperity long term. So I
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  Speaker 1: support it. UH not easy, I will say I'm always
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  Speaker 1: a little bit like cautious, and I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: fall in this category. But when you're in like the
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  Speaker 1: church realm, a lot of people get married really young,
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  Speaker 1: like in college, because they just want to have sex.
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  Speaker 1: And like I always am like, oh, that might be
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  Speaker 1: not the best reason here, like you might want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure like you have some other things going on
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  Speaker 1: in your relationship than just that. But I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they fall into that category. I just think this is
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  Speaker 1: what they decided. But yeah, that you hear that a
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  Speaker 1: lot too. And I think people kind of from the
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  Speaker 1: outside mix that up where they're like thinking that you're
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  Speaker 1: only getting married so that you can have sex, and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, if that's you know, you know we
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  Speaker 1: that I have a whole different opinion on that. Anyways, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: bachelor at Bennett Jordan engaged to yoga teacher Emily Chin.
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  Speaker 1: This is his Instagram announcement of it. He goes, we
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  Speaker 1: have a one in four true. Wow that don't don't mangle,
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  Speaker 1: don't boggle my mind like this, Bennett, we have a
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  Speaker 1: one in four hundred trillion chance of being born and
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  Speaker 1: we are two of eight billion people in this world.
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  Speaker 1: I can only thank God for bringing us together and
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  Speaker 1: promised to go on an adventure of a lifetime with you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for making me the luckiest man alive. At
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  Speaker 1: Emily Chen they got engaged. Ah, they got engaged on
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  Speaker 1: the thirtieth of June and they're just now talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he did not finish his whatever point
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  Speaker 1: he was making. I mean, it's a sweet point, but
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  Speaker 1: he did not finish the equation. Because if you have
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  Speaker 1: one and four hundred trillion chance of being born in
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  Speaker 1: your two of eight billion people in this world, then
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  Speaker 1: the percentage of chances that you would actually meet this
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  Speaker 1: person are Oh man, that's too many zeros for me
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  Speaker 1: to do. You want to figure out how many people
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  Speaker 1: we meet in our lifetimes. Yeah, well yes, and that
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  Speaker 1: you would meet that exact person. I feel like that's
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  Speaker 1: where he was trying to go with that. I would
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  Speaker 1: like to seeing him finished that equation a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: But either way, very sweet message, very happy for another engagement.
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  Speaker 1: In Batchel Nation. You might remember Bennett Jordan's what season
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  Speaker 1: was he on? Who was his bachelorette? He was on
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  Speaker 1: UM season tastious season. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: had a big, kind of a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: controversy or arguments. Uh during that season with Noah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was that was an interesting one to watch. There's
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  Speaker 1: that gift kind of thing given. I remember that that
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  Speaker 1: was weird. Uh. Hey on from Bachelor engagements to Bachelor breakups. Now,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I know we have a lot of Tyler Cameron fans
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  Speaker 1: out there were Tyler Cameron frans, he fans. He came
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast. He was very nice, very easy to
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  Speaker 1: talk to. I enjoyed my conversation. I will yeah, but
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: your conversation, I will make this comment. I feel like
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I'm giving a lot of Tyler Cameron like breakup relationship
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: news like recently, Like I can't keep track of this.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: This is where I fall short. So Tyler, if you
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: could do us a favor here at the Almost fame
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: As podcast, Um, you know, slow down or simplify this
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit for me. I cannot wait till one
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: day he does get does get engaged in somebody posted
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Tyler Cameron really like relationship timeline because then I think
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: people would agree with me, like, yeah, it's gonna be
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: hard to cover anyways. Tyler Cameron reveals Page Laurens split
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: weeks after going public with relationship The quote is we
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: had to take a step back now. Actually, you might
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: be able to fill in some gaps from me. I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: did see that Tyler said this during an interview, and
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you can break that down. But then Paige has now
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: responded on Instagram or something on a comment saying yeah,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like she didn't know he was talking about it, but
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: they did split, so she is confirmed it as well. Okay, well, yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: he was on Daily Pop and he told Lonnie Love,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: who loves him, uh, that they are not didding anymore.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: He said, we're He put it so funny, like he
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: didn't want to say it. So but when he goes,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the right timing. We're back to, you know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: not dating anymore, just doing our own thing right now.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: We have a bunch of respect and love for each other.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: It's just not the right time for both of us
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: right now. He goes, and I had to break the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: news to you, Lonnie. Um, so he confirms that he's
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: absolutely single again. Now listen, you're right. We we've had
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a Tyler Kim and roller coaster. It was is he
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: or is he not? With Hannah Brown. Then there was
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the whole Jiug thing, and then there was his last girlfriend,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: which I feel like they broke up, like not that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: long ago, right, it was just a matter of months
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and then he started dating page. Now listen, at least
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: we know he is a relationship man, as he's claimed
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: on the show, and he could not be a relationship man.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: He's he could have a different lady every night if
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: he if he please. But he's a relationship guy, which
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: is very nice. Um, I think it's very nice. Okay,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: now listen. I find the timing here a little suspect.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: They I'm also just creating drama for myself right now,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: because we all know I don't off You guys know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I made it a big deal last night at Audrey's.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: We did a Q and A and somebody asked like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: who do you want to be the next Bachelor, and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I very passionately said that I wanted to be Tyler Cameron.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I want this show to do anything to get Tyler
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Cameron to be the Bachelor because I want these ratings
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: coming up. I want people who don't normally watch the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: show to watch this show. And I think he's the
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: man that can do this job. Now, I'm making up
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: drama here by saying the timing is a little suspect
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: just because, like they did, just announce a relationship. Why
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: would you go public with a relationship that you weren't
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: super sure it was gonna, you know, stand the test
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: of a month. Uh So I'm thinking, what if ABC's
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: talking to him right now and they're doing everything they
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: can can do to convince him to become the Bachelor,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And he was like, all right, you know what, I'm
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: not this girl. I like um, but she's not my wife,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to give up this opportunity of
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: all the things that they could possibly be giving me.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Um my life. You're crazy. It's no shot. There's no way.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: There's no shot. I will say though that would help
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the show. You know who else would help the show.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: It needs to be stund casting. It needs to be
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: like a celebrity. And I think that Tyler is somewhere
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: in between. Okay, fine, Pete Davidson another. You think that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Pete Davidson is going to become the Bachelor before Tyler
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: is going to become the Bachelor. You think that's more realistic. Oh,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think either of them are happening. Actually, I
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: think we just got to throw over a white flag.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: But either one, Bring it on, feed me poured into
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: my bring them both on. Come on, let's let's have
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: them co do this thing and see how it goes.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Bringing a Kardashian just to be a part of the cast. Now,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that is truly never happening, all right? Well, uh more
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Sad News and Bass Nation. Jacqueline Trumbull addresses decision to
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: call off wedding to Paul Sally due to irresolvable incompatibilities
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Disaccording to US Weekly, that sounds like a different way
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: of seeing irreconcilable differences. Those are just two six two
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: similars from in reconcilable differences, often on divorce papers. Um. Okay,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So if you guys remember Jacqueline was on our podcast
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: in the fall and she was talking about her wedding
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: to Paul, who she met while at school. And I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: think she's getting her doctorate. I'm sorry if I don't
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: remember exactly she's getting, but it's a high level degree.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And Paul was again not one or either her teacher
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: or the t A, which I thought was very juicy. Um,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: but I guess they had I resolved er irresolvable incompatible abilities.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: And she called off the wedding seemingly very close to
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: the actual wedding because she kept the whole trip to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Portugal in which they were going to get married, and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: she instead of getting married to Paul. There had a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of family and friends come out and they
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: enjoyed a big trip together. She says a deep thank
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: you to my wonderful friends and family and even my
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: advisor for coming out to Portugal. Even though I chose
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: not to get married and and my relationship, almost all
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: of my wedding guests came out and showered me with
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: love and support. It was such an incredibly moving week,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and I'll never forget the kindness of my friends during
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: such a difficult time. It was beautiful to see these
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: people who have known separately throughout my life fall in
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: love with each other. It's doesn't like Dirk's Bidley have
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: a song like drunk on a plane, Get drunk on
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: a plane. This is getting drunk on a plane. That's
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: what I would do that, But getting drunk on a plane.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I feel like he was totally dropped at the altar.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like Jacqueline, I'm also just making up drama here.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I feel like she might have been the one to
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: call this off. Well, yeah, I don't think you have
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the I don't think you go to Portugal unless you
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: were the one making this decision. That would just be
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: my guest. Maybe maybe, But we can have a back
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: on and talk about it. Well, this sounds very under
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the Tuscan sun as well. Yeah it does. Yeah, you're right. Uh.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Former Bachelor at Michelle Young says she's happier. Yes, this
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: is a quote happier after Nate split. This according to people,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: So this is not her only Instagram post post split
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: from Nate, but it is the first one we got
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: where she like kind of like updated people on her
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: state of being. And it's a whole bunch of single
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: pictures of her with UM the song good Vibes playing,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and her caption reads happier just one word caption, happier.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: UM and Jesse Palmer responded and says happy looks good
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: on you. So I hope she's feeling better since we
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: last spoke to her. But you know, this is a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: big relationship, big ending and UM, I know it's gonna
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: take time for her to truly, you know, start feeling
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: much better. But I hope that she's taking a huge
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: step forward. Now. Well, that's all the Bachelor headlines we
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: have for you today. It's time Ashley to break down
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the latest episode of the Bachelorette with Rachel and Gabby
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: as our Bachelorette's Ashley. They arrive in Bruges bell jump.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I've never even heard of this place, said, you know, Bruge. Nope,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I never heard of it. Well, uh, we haven't got
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: to really dig in. I know last week when we
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: were in Tahoe, you broke down the episode with Trista utter,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: but I have I'm sure you spoke about it, but
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I just want to comment again how wild it is
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: to me. I told Jessica this last night, uh, that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: they're cruising around on a legitimate cruise ship with I mean,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of people that work
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: on the show. So they say there's a hundred people
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: that work on the show, and at this point there's
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you know, close to twenty cast members and then so
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: that's like a twenty people on a legitimately massive cruise
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: ship cruising around Europe. I think this would be awesome,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the coolest. So Tristan I did talk last week about
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: how like I'm a huge cruiser and this is thrilling
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to me. This would be the coolest way to do
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. This ship probably has at least passengers and like, yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: probably close to a thousand crew, and that's something totally
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: lowballing the numbers. It is a Virgin ship, and Virgin
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: is a new cruise line like that. This is their
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: first time getting into cruising, so I can understand them
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: liking the press on this, but it still seems like
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: a huge get. It's awesome, I mean really really incredible,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and hey, you know what, I think it's working for
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the show. I don't know if we fully always understand
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that they're on a cruise ship as like people are
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: filming and as you know, the conversations are existing, but
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be a really fun way to do
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the show. I hope they can do it all the time.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: And the cruise ship looks awesome. It's showing off really
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: well um for for everybody involved, and I like it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I like it for this reason because like night dates,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: when the cruise ship is probably having to move locations,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you're within ten minutes of your room, which sometimes on
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: night dates you'd be like an hour and a half
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: from the place that you're staying, which just makes for
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: later nights. Well, actually, before we break down the episode
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: as we do every week, ratings report has just came
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: out as of forty minutes ago. ABC does top the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: evening the Bachelrette Um number one for the night with
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: three point zero six million viewers. I believe that is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the most years they've had UH yet. I think actually
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I can almost confirm that because I feel like they're
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: in the two millions. For the last couple of weeks.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: UM got a point seven rating UH in the eighteen
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: to forty nine viewership, which is you know, obviously the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: one that is most important. It topped NBC and Fox,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: who both got point three each. So the Bachelor that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: showed up last night people tuned in. Yeah, but guess what,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: it was probably the worst episode for people to turn
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: into because I don't think that that episode is going
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to get anybody hooked that episode. And I liked last
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: week's episode. You guys can go and listen to the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: recap with Tristo last week, like I was passed and
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: it Yeah, yo, I have nothing to say about this one.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: This guy. It took me forever to get through this
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: episode of person pause and pause and pause. I was
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: not captivated. I know. Well, let's still break it down
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and see why you weren't captivated. I have a few thoughts.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: We're gonna break it down in order, from the start
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to the finish. Uh. Even got the one on one
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: we know that's happening. The date card has Tino Zack, Meatball, Ethan, Tyler,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Logan uh in it. But we also we also have
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the storyline of Logan kind of you know, going over
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to Gabby's side Rachel at this point. Uh, it's hard
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to graph through the television. But at the first part
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: of this episode, my wife was watching it with me,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: which is why she also heard the weird like, uh,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: and I know who wrote it, so it's funny. It's ridiculous.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: But these like tags to get people to say in
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: it for the show are ridiculous, Like, Hey, well, I know,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I think they're good, but they're ridiculous. They like throw
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: me off every time, Like, I'm kind of now excited
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to hear what weirdness they come up with next. But
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: she's like, what they just say if you're dating your cousin?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Like who what? Anyways, Um, the Logan storyline and Rachel
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: just being like really down. And we talked about it
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago how this show can either really
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: help your confidence or really hurt your confidence quickly. As
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the lead, I feel like at this point, like if
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: if we were to sit Rachel down in that moment,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: like her confidence is shot, and I get why. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: don't think it should be. I think she is beautiful.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I think she's really great. I think she's gonna find
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: somebody here that's gonna be a great cast for her still,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: but I get why she's just struggling, and I think
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it's fair. I mean, she's getting a raw into this deal.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: She's certainly is they, you know, and I don't want
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: to bring up a gun, but they were all like,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: we're not going to pit them against each other, and like, yeah,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: they didn't directly put the girls against each other, but
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: like in having guys, she sort of choose you kind
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: of putting them, You're putting their ego at risk? Is
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: it an ego? At this point though? Is that the
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: right word? I think I think you have to actually
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: go to it. Like I feel like somebody with the
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: like the most humble, uh, most caring, most giving uh
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: person who has no ego would still be hurt in
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: this moment. She just got rejected when they were back
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: at the mansion by multiple people. Then she shows up
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: feeling confident in her group. I don't know if you
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: could consider Logan a front runner, but he's he's definitely
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: a like a player in this, Like he actually like
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he could be somebody for one of these one them.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: And then he comes in after she's just kind of
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: back and settled in and does this Now the question
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I have for you and to the listeners, was Logan
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: wrong in doing this? Like did he should he have
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: just left the show? Or was he right in communicating
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: this when he did? And also then moving over to
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Gabby side. Okay, so first I want to say, like
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: I said, the word ego and I now know the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: better way of saying it put the girls in a position,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: specifically in the past couple of cases, Rachel putting her
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: in the position to be hurt. So that's what sucks. Now.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I don't I agree with everything you're saying. I just
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: want to play Devil's advocate to bring in a point.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I had somebody on my well really two people during
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: my time as the bachelor leave as well, like on
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: their own accord. So I will say no matter if
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: there is two or one. And I'm saying this because
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping Rachel doesn't feel like she's alone by this
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: happening to her. I think it can still happen. Now,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it's different when the guy just is like, hey, I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: like that other person more. I think that adds an
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: element that isn't fun to see and kind of it hurts,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: probably worse, but it could still happen at some level
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: with one bachelor at or bachelor or two bachelorets or bachelor.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Now with Paradise, you're always in the position of being hurt,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and you're always in the position of possibly being rejected.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Like at any moment, somebody can come down the stairs
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: and you can be rejected. But it is different. We're
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: supposed we're supposed to feel like we need to protect
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: the lead a little bit more from rejection. Okay, So
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: your question was what did he did he make like?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Is he is this a villain type moment for Logan
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: or not. I don't think it's a villain type moment.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I also don't think he has like a villainous bone
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: in his body. They never even played scary music behind it,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and like, I don't even think he was ever supposed
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: to be like looked at like a villain. Um. I
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: do think that maybe he could have been. I mean,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: if we could go back, he could have been a
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: little bit more upfront. He could have probably when they
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: were like drafting teams been been like, can I talk
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to you for a minute. I'm really I'm really between
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: you guys. I really kind of want to explore both
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: options that I don't know how I would have gone over.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: It probably wouldn't have gone over good for him then
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and I and he definitely wanted to do this last week,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: but he did the I guess like the only thing
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: that he really did that's questionable is accepting Rachel's rose
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: last week and not pulling her aside before he accepted that. Yeah, well,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I mean yes, I think it would be really hard
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: to say what he said. I don't think he did
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: it perfectly. I don't know if there's a perfect moment.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I also think that Rachel had every right to be
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: really sad. I mean, I'm not giving her permissionees, I
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: just I can feel I felt for her in that moment,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Like I was like I'd be bummed like, I'd be
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: torn up if this was if I was in Rachel's position.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: No wonder she's crying. I'd be crying. I'd be confused,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I'd be onet to go home. Uh but Logan does
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what happens, Logan tells her. Um, she
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: says okay, and he goes and talks to Gabby. Well,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Rachel actually talks to Gabby. Gabby then allows Logan to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: come under her side, so Logan is now there. He's
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a part of Gabby's group, which leads us to Rachel's
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: group date, which is canceled at this point. Obviously, the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: boys are confused and upset about not having this group date. Ashley, Um,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I wish I would have known I could have canceled
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: group dates. You're like, I could have used the rest. Yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the rest would have been nice. So it is nice
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that she gets this time to like regroup and and
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: then she does meet up with the guys at the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: after party break that down for us. Well, she seems
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: to be in much better spirits at this point. Hopefully
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: she's realizing that Wigan and her wear aren't gonna end
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: up together. That's why this whole episode is kind of
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: bad to me because most of the storyline. If we'd
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: have what's her name Bachelor, what's her what's her name who?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: She breaks down the Bachelor stats, Bachelor data, Bachelor data,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: she would show us that Logan gets more screen time
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: than anyone, more than any of the guys in this episode,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and he just he's not going to end up with
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: either of them. That's why this is so not compelling
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to me. It's because he wasn't a front runner who
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: decided to go back and forth. Okay, so Rachel and
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Gabby have a talk before she goes into her nighttime
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: portion of the group day, and they're cool, you know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: they they really do see like eye to eye, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: it's it's nice that there's no drama between them. Um.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: And then she goes in and she gets to talk
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: to Ethan, and she talks to Tino. She talks to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: let me pause you here for a second. Here's something
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: really interesting about Ethan that I found out last night.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Ethan was on Bachelor Live on stage, and I could
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: not I did not remember that he was a bachelor. Yeah,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: he was a bachelor when I did in Seattle, so
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I kind of always felt like I recognized them but
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I never made the connection. And then son of a
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Gun posted on the Instagram. Okay, uh, that's really cool.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Then Tino um basically said, like the Tino moment. It's
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: always stands out to me. This is this is the
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: storyline I care about the most, and everybody knows this.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: He says that, um, it doesn't sit well that she
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: had to cancel the party, I mean canceled the daytime
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: portion of the group to and that um, she's obviously
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: so sad. Like he hates this, and he says, this
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: will just big huge. He says, I see Rachel as
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: my person um, and today they lost memories that they
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: could have had together, and her canceling the group date
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: during the day made him feel unseen. He feels like
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: their relationship is where they can talk about stuff like this.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So I felt like last week or was it two
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: weeks ago? Last week, I think, um, yeah, they had
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the one on one and I was like, look, I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: need to know more about Tino's personality because I like
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: to think that he's swoony, but I don't know if
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: we know him yet. And now like we see him
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: like he's taking charge, like he's like no, no, like
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I'm serious about this, do you well. I mean, I
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: think Tino is definitely a front runner. It's interesting, Ashley, Uh,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Tino is probably, I would say at this point, him
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and Evan are two of the most known people on
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: this cast, right, both on Rachel's side. Oh, they're all
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: on Rachel's side to me, like, that's why I'm more
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: interested in Rachel's storyline. But Tino, and this is just
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a weird thing. He only has twenty thousand followers on Instagram,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: which is a lot, right still, but most time when
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you have a Frowner and a cast, they are upwards
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: of a hundred. I'm just wondering if that's part of
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: the the signs of the engagement from the show this year.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: It's just interesting to me that I just looked it
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: up because I wanted to see, like our people jumping
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: on with Tino's story, and I think they are because
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: they looked up Tino's name. There's some comments there that
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: people were asking, did Tino make that about himself too much?
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Like did he? I'm so glad you said that thought? Okay,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: so yes, I think that we saw Tino come into
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: his own and that he showed like passion in that moment.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: But to me, it was a little bit of questionable
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: passion because a part of me who's been rooting for him,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: mostly because like he seems like this like sexy leading
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: man may inmate. He made me feel like, oh, no,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: is he just trying to win this? This is a
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: competition thing for him? That crossed my mind for the
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: like that cross my mind and trying to block it
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: out and say no, no, no, But it was there. Yeah,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I mean it has to. That's the question you ask
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: every front runner, is you know, what's their intentions here?
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: But I do think he's He's very into Rachel. I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: do feel like their chemistry together is is very good. Um,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I would have to put him as the front runner
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: at this point. But I mean, if we speed this
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: up a bit, Rachel has her group day, Um, you know,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: obviously Tino gets the rose, which makes everybody they're kind
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: of I would say, I'd say it's always hard when
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: somebody has a one on one and then the next
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: week to get a group day rose. You just kind
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: of feel like, wow, is everybody else just watching this
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: relationship unfold? And it do I matter at all? And
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: this I mean, I do know that's a feeling that
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: comes about. Uh So, Tina's definitely the front runner. But
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, for as high as we all are
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: in Tino, and for as much as we think Rachel
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Tino have a connection, no matter how that conversation went down,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and at this point we have no reason to really
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: question Tino's intentions. I think Aven might be the sneaky
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: pick here because I feel like he's consistent. I feel
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: like they have something special. I feel like he's kind
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: of just like navigating this process quietly. His emotions are
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: are fairly kept in most of the time when it
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: comes to Rachel, but I know he's into her. I
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: feel like even might I mean, yes, Tino seems the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: guy that we're all going to be like, of course
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: they're gonna get together. I think Teena even might be
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: that guy that sneaks through, okay, totally down even moves
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: up to my second place for her right now. After
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: this one on one that they have. It's really cute,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: it's really light. Of course, during the day they go
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: to chocolate store. Um, they're in a horse and carriage
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: that he talks about his mom. We didn't get like
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of dates. Um, but his childhood. We find
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: out that he grew up mostly with his dad and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: he didn't really have a close relationship with his mom
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: until he got older. He gives Rachel a cute little
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Rubber brand rubber bracelet for good luck. That um that
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: was you know, his, that is his mom's. And it's
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: just nice and easy breezy, you know, just nice, easy,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: breezy day. And I really like his vibes and his
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: energy and he's very cute, and uh, I'm feeling him
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: more than Zach. So I think Zach was our runner
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: up for Rachel it for a while. And Zack, you know,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: his date was great a couple of weeks ago, but
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: for some reason, I feel like he's slipping. Yeah, well,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen a lot of them, but I agree
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: with that. I don't know if we will see anything
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: more from his act because these two even, you know,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: kind of feel as we get down to just a
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: few on each side as the front runners. Actually I
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: wonder this, I'm just gonna throw this out there. Do
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: you think any of these guys are sitting there seeing
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Tino get the first or the one on one then
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the group date rose even obviously getting the one on
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: one seeing those connections, Bill, do you think any of
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: those guys around there going, Wow, I don't know if
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I have a chance with Rachel anymore. I think she's
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: pretty focused and in their heads they're thinking. I wonder
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: if you know, because Gabby feels a lot more uh open.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Right now, there's not like a clear front runner in
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: my mind. Do you think any of them going, maybe
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: we just like move over to see if that could
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: work too? Like, do you think they're thinking that now
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: after like the Logan scenario. Not at this point, there's
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: too far They're too far in, too far in, so
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen. Yeah, I don't think they're thinking that. Okay,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: so Aven's one on one with Rachel goes really well, Uh, nothing,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: you know, um, nothing more or less than I think
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: their connection is strong. They opened up to each other,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: they share their stories. Uh, and I feel like Avan
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: does move up to that second position if we're ranking them,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I love to rank and then we have to come on,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Well that moves just to Gabby. Gabby has a one
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: on one date with Johnny. I what were you going
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to say, Well, we finally see Johnny here for a
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: while and now we get his now we're seeing him
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: and I like him. He's cool. Uh, they have a
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: good vibe. It's you know. What's interesting is like the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: big they're big conversation here is about anxiety and depression,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: which is similar to the conversation sort of kind of
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: that she had last week with Jason, And we know
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: that this is something that she's definitely dealt with. So
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: it's a way of her to connect with these guys. Uh.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: He says, this is very interesting that he's the least
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: confident person ever and he's very hard on himself. And
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: what I kept pondering, what does this mean? What does
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: this mean? He says, every time he gets in a relationship,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: once he starts being himself, the girl gets out. And
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Johnny, what now we got? Now? Is that
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I want to know? Is this Is this a weird
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: red flag? No? I think it's a legitimate and security
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's it's more nuanced than that. In
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: his mind, he's creating that narrative, right, you can get
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: into like psychoanalysis here and seeing like kind of how
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: you see yourself and how you see others see you,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: and so this is a narrative at some level he's creating,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: not and it's not, um, diminishing his story. I'm not
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: making it not legitimate, but it you know, yes, he
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: sees it this way. Some people might have met him
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: and said, hey, I don't think we're a good match
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: based on who we are as people. Um. But the
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: every time thing, you know, one of the things you
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: have to learn when you go through therapy is to
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: work through that so that you see yourself in the
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: light that is that is worthy of being loved and
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: loving somebody else. So he's he's gonna have to work
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: through that. And the cool part is when you can
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: do that with your partner, somebody that says I'm gonna
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: love you like I'm not leaving you. Maybe that's gabbing me,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: it's not. I don't know yet, um, but it was
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: good to see him open up. It makes more sense
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: now why he is more reserved, why we haven't seen
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: much from him up until this point. So it's good
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: to get those, you know, those type of people on
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: one on ones because now they start making sense to us.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: We get to hear their story and here they're human experience,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: which isn't ever like simple and which is we're just
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: purely like pretty there's everybody has stuff, so it's you know,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite parts of the show is
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: is understanding that, yeah, everybody has a little stuff. Well
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Ashley that one on one day goes well, they obviously
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: have something they're gonna build on. Um, they have something
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: that's gonna keep take them in the future. H And
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: really the most important thing to talk about from this
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: point is not the cocktail party, it is the row ceremony. Um,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: because they kind of just fly through the cocktail party,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: it feels like during this episode, so the rose ceremony
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: comes up. Um, the people and this is where I
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: want to talk about this as we close out here.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: The people that go home are Meatball, Mario, and Michael.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Now I never got to see Michael, and we only
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: knew of Meatball because all season they called him Meatball,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: which just feels like he never stood a chance, never
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: stood a chance. He was so lucky to get as
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: far as he did. Not only did he get accepted
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: back in by Rachel, but he also got a rose
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: last week. So good for Meatball for making it as
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: far exactly like he way way over day where I
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: thought Meatball was going to go. I thought he was
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: a night winner. Um and I mean, geez, the poor
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: guy like they called him Meatball. I mean just I
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: think he liked it. Yeah, well, he likes having a
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: memorable and I can definitely get an endorsement on Yeah
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: he can. I mean, if he's smart, he's calling every
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: meatball shop in the country saying, pay me to post
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: about your store or do a meatball tour tasting meatballs
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: around the world. I think Meatball has something going on
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: for him. The shocking piece here, Ashley, is that Mario
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: goes home that we we saw Mario get The first
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: impression was we haven't seen much of mario sins, and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I thought it was because he was such a front
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: rudder there. We're going to kind of hide him, you know,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: for a bit. But like what happened, we have no clue,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: like where things went wrong. We have no peace of
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Mario's story. And he was the first impression Rose Getter,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: didn't Abigail get Matt's first impression Rose, And we kept saying,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: where's Abigail, where's Abigail? We want more Abigail. It's like
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the exact same thing with Mario. It was really weird.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: That we never got to see more of why it
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: didn't go beyond the first night, you know, and we
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: never got to see the fact that, um, there was
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: some sort of not fight over Mario, but Rachel definitely
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: showed interest in him. Yeah, I know, and but but
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's not desired by either one
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: of them. Really, it's a bummer, but I saw it coming.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: When you saw the rest of the guy standing there,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: You're like, ah, yeah, Mario's gone. I'm definitely Logan's gonna
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: be Logan's going to get the rose. Once you saw
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: the cocktail party interaction when Mario was like, hey, look
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: I'm where my first impression suit and she's like laughing,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: but it's not romantic. And then we see with Logan
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: she slaps him with a fish and then she kisses
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: him with fish face. That's that's love, that's attraction. Yeah,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: it's too bad. I thought I was gonna be around.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: But I have a feeling we'll be seeing him in Paradise.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: We gotta see him in Paradise. He feels like a
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: good Paradise contestant and very desirable in Paradise. Well that
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: to close out this episode, Um, the preview for next week. Uh,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: some interesting things that we should pay attention to. Zach
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: tells Rachel he is falling in love with her. Rachel
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: tells even everything she asked for he embodies. Okay, some
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: big Rachel headlines there, and then we go to Gabby.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: Gabby tells Eric she has always wanted to be with
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: someone like him. Gabby feels her dreams are coming true.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Now Here is the interesting part of the preview. We
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: see Jesse bring up a situation with Logan, who you
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: had mentioned did not get really a villain musical edit
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: in his moments. But we see Jesse bring up a
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: situation with Logan, and then Jesse tells Logan to pack
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: his bags and Logan does that. It's something to pay
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: attention to for the future. I bet that happens on
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: next episode. But if this is something not good for Logan,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: then my thought is you should have gone home when
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: you had the chance. Well, that was the episode for
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: this week. I have a little inside knowled just to
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: what the Logan dramas about, and I think you guys
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: are going to be absolutely um twisted, you know, like
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: it's not all you expect. That's that's all I can do.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: That's all the spoiler I can give. Now. Before we
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: leave today, we have a very special interview with somebody
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: that we never really thought would be we'd be able
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: to have on the show. It is one of our
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: very very good friends, A Lawn Gale, who is the
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: former executive producer of the Bachelor. He's also the showrunner
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: for um F Boy Island and now the showrunner of
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: The One That Got Away. He's also an executive producer.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: You know, he's got his fingers and all of these things.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: And we also have one of the contestants on the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: One That Got Away, which is on Prime video right now,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Vince coming on. So please welcome A lawng Gale and Vince. Guys.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: We have Vince Shoe on from the One That Got
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Away and executive producer A Lawn gl guys along. Gael
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: is also otherwise known in my phone in my life
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: as my father. He likes to be called um my
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: father because like my dad's my dad, but like a
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: lawn is my father, Okay, like a guider and a
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: spiritual spiritual guide in my life. Um So hello father,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Hello Vince. I've got to start this interview off with
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: a question for Alan. Alan, You've now proven that you
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: have can compose, produce, put out three very successful dating shows,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: f Boy Island, The One That Got Away, and The
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Bachelor for franchise, you're kind of the mastermind behind Bachelor
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: in Paradise, whether they want to give you credit for
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: that or not. So question is what is it about
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: your personality, about your brain that can accomplish so much
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: in this TV dating realm Uh? Well, Ashley, obviously it's Uh.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here in an interview with three
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: examples of why I'm able to do anything, which is
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Ashley and then and Vince, who are super open, loving,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: giving people who I think hadn't had a chance to
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: express themselves to their fullest uh and found an opportunity
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: and took that opportunity. When it comes to their romantic lives,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I think we all talk
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: about how important it is to find the one for us,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the one that got away for Ben specifically, but the
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: one the one for us, and I think that sometimes
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: we don't put ourselves in a position to find it. Uh.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: And then I think that sometimes when you get lucky,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: you find a casting notice or somebody refers you to
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: someone or somebody knows someone that knows you and submits
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: your name, and then you find yourself in front of
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people who are interested in your love
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: life in a way your friends can only ever pretend
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: to be, because it's like, like, how much can you
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: listen to the saying? You have these strangers who are
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: interested in you, right, and it's so fantastic And and
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: you know, actually you love talking about your feelings. And
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I think that there's and and and the truth is
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I think we all do. I think that's I think
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. I think a lot. I think we
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: really like talking about our feelings, and we don't always
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: have permission, we don't always have interested parties. And you know,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: when you meet someone like I can tell you like
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I remember the day I met Vince and I was like, oh, like,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I've been asking questions about his life and his family,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: and the answers are honest and you can feel emotion
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: and spirit and passion behind it, and you just go, okay,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: like I'm interested in this person. And I think just
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: part of it's being like can we how can we
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: help other people realize what's so interesting about this person?
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, Like that's all.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: It's just people, right, It's just people. Like everything else
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: is artifice around it, like whether it's a portal, or
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: whether it's a man's splain, or whether it's living in
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Limbro surrounded by coconuts, all of it. Whether oh my god, Jared,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I just saw Jared and a baby baby down the
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: stairs of the baby behind us in the background. That's beautiful. Hi,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: um and all that to say, and and and just
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: just to put a finer point on it, uh, Ashley
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: as an example, like you just had the perfect example
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: of why this all works walk behind you, uh, which
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: is you focused on the thing you wanted. You were
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: kind enough to always let us capture it on camera,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: and here you are with a tiny baby, Ashley. Um,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: and I imagine you guys make a lot of the
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: same noises. Sorry, could you say that? SERI wants to
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: get it on this conversation. Oh my god, Allan I
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: had myself. He's so dramatic and he cries non stop. Yeah,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: what what did you expect? Well, it's like take you
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: and remove filters. Yeah, you get a baby, and you
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: get a baby. That's what you get. You get. My
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: co host and somehow we still we're still making this
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: thing work. Vince. Obviously, you do get to work with
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: one of our our greatest friends, Alan on this show,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: the one that got away. One of my favorite things,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: because you know, there's new shows that come out, there's
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: new shows that I've never heard about that come out.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I always try to follow Alan and what he's working
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: on because it's just always interesting. But Vince, from your perspective, one,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I guess it's a two part question. I'll just let
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: you have the stage. Why would Alan ask you to
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: come on with him for this podcast? And then why
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: in the world should we watch you on this show?
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Oh boy? Well, first of all, I didn't even know
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Alan specifically requested me. Now I feel really special, Thank
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: you man. That's awese. I feel like you know me
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: and alone kind of have like a really um I think,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: a deep understanding of human beings. I think I kind
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: of like I saw it during my interview with him.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: We had like final auditions in l A And that's
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: the first time I actually met him in person, but
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: we had a few zoom type of interviews before, and
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: I could tell that the way along kind of like
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: analyzes human beings. I felt like I kind of see
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: humans in the same kind of way and the way
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: we kind of vibed in that sense, I just felt
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: like there was a deeper understanding of what we were
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: doing here, like we were trying to express, like, you know,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: just like the the human condition on film and trying
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: to you know, get this express and and everything that
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: we have deep inside and trying to show the beautiful
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: sides of it and the messy sides of it everything,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: and that's what makes us human. And you know, I
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: felt like we have always had that kind of connection.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Our conversations always, you know, seem very like like meaningful,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: very like deep, um, very different from a lot of
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: like surface level conversations you have in the industry. And
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it could also just be my audition
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: with him when I freestyle wrapped and I dropped him
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: in my freestyle, because I remember during the auditions, like
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: they were they were asking about, oh, what what's your
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: dating life like? And I told them about this like
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: one story where I was freestyling in the car, and
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, when you have a girl freestyle,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: you kind of break them down a little bit, you know,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: more they're they're more vulnerable because they know they're not
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: going to do very well. And then um, and I
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: started telling him yeah, and I freestyle too, you know,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: but I never it's never good. It's always really trash freestyle,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: but like it makes the girl feel more comfortable freestyling
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: after to hear how much I bomb right And then
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I remember I think it was Elon or Bill. They
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: were like, well, Viz, why don't you just freestyle right now?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: And then I remember I just went off the riff
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: during my audition. I was like, I'm just gonna freestyle
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: and I dropped him on. I was like, I forgot
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: what I said. I wanted to say, uh, my boy,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: a lawn has a hair like a Bishan because I
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: remember his hair was like all crazy and I was like, man,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: this guy looks like such a character. And I feel
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: like ever since that day we kind of connected. And
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I'm really glad that he invited me here because I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: feel like we're have like more of a conversation. I've
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: had a lot of conversation with him offline, but you know,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: this time you don't have it together. It was fantastic. Um.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know what was the second question, why should
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: we want? I am a quarter so I really appreciated
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: you seeing being able to see that in me. Thank you.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Alan's always Alan has always been lucky that he was
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: blessed with hair. He hasn't started losing it, and and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I'd say most of the population at his age start
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: to lose some hair, and his just continues to grow
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: age thirty nine down. Okay, the second part of this
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: question is why should we watch the show? I guess
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I'll give it to both of you to answer. From
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Alan's perspective and also from yours, Vince, Well, from my perspective,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like what makes this show so different, um,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: is that it just feels so real because we're coming,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: We're meeting these people from our past, and they're not
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: necessarily strangers. And I think most shows that we see nowadays,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you're paired up with strangers in some type
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: of way. UM, And these these people, you already have
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: some history behind it and there's some context there. So
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, we're only filming for about
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: like five weeks, right, And I think a lot of
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: people they watched these shows and going, well, how can
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: you really fall in love in five weeks, and I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: think this show is so special because there's our radio
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: connection there. So these these sparks that are kind of
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: like reignited, I feel like they really lend themselves to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of emotional acceleration. So like like you've seen
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: you on the show and I end up, you know,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: opening my heart out, and I'm just like, I get
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: very committed. I fall in love on the show, and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I never thought that was possible. And I think because
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I already had a connection to this person, it just
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: sped things up a lot fast. We already know, you know,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: our hometowns are the same, like you know, we know
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: our our background with a the same school, that we're
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: able to have a really good starting point. And I
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: think that's what make to show so different. And it's
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: it's I think everyone kind of has that um that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: feeling like, oh, there's maybe the one that got away
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: for them, and you know, everyone can kind of relate
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: to this premise and that's something that I always I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: was hoping people would take away from it when they
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: watched it, you know, And it's great, you know, television
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: is very entertaining, but at the end of the day,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: when you finish it, you would think, Okay, who's the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: one that got away from me? And maybe I can
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: reach out to them and maybe use this show as
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: kind of like the reason for it. Hey, have you
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: seen that new show, the one that Got Away? On
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Amazon Prime? It's like, oh my god. It kind of
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: reminded me of you remember when we you know, used
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: to be friends back in middle school or high school,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: and you know that could spark a connection and be like, oh,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe we should grab coffee sometime, And that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: would give people a socially acceptable way to, you know,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: reconnect with somebody, because you don't want to just cold
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: DM someone that you had a crush on ten years ago,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Like it's kind of creepy, right. So I did that.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: I did a podcast on it once. I called a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: boy I hadn't talked to you in like six or
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: seven years, and I was like, hey, confession time, I
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: had a big crush on you. Did you know that?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: And we did it all live on air. I have
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: never been so nervous, even of all the times I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: was on the Bachelor, What what what happened? I missed
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: that once? It was back when I was obviously single.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Um and he was like, yeah, I was like I
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: told him. I was like, Hey, we're just doing like
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: a little nostalgic thing. We're talking to people from like
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: college and grad school and stuff. So if you come
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: on and talk about like our time in grad school
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: and now he's actually one of the lead anchors on
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Good Morning America Weekend. So Trevor Alt, you guys can
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: look him up. Yeah, he's a big deal. Um. And
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I was so awkward and so nervous, and he was like, yeah,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I think I kind of knew that you to crush
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: on me. And I was like, well, I kind of
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: thought that you had like kind of maybe like a
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: little interest, And he was like, um, I don't know. Literally,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: apparently I was like revisionist history, sir, revisionist history. We
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: had there was there was something there. Why did you
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: think there was something there? Do you remember was there
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: a moment? There was multiple moments to see, he had
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: a girlfriend. He had a girlfriend the entire time. He
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: ended up breaking up with his girlfriend. Um, literally a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: matter of I think it was a week after grad school,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: so like there was no move ever made because he
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: was living with his girlfriend, but you could tell like
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: they were on the rocks. He wasn't interested anymore. So,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: especially the last six months of school, it was like
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: summary flirty vibes. Um. We were having more like get
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: together as because we all knew there was a small group.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: It was a concentration of like forty people. So we
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: were just you know, we were just hanging out a lot,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: trying to suck up those last moments, and you could
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: just vibe it. But apparently he doesn't admit to it.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Whatever everybody else saw it. We'd next to the computer,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: we would be next to each other on the computer
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: and all that. Whatever. He's going to hear this now
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: and now that he's like, you know, a reporter for
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: good Morning America, it's probably gonna be a headline God,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: good Morning America and almost famous colliding. You're just doing
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: crossovers left and right. One girl, one girl graduates Syracusan
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: went on the Bachelor, and then the other one became
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: a reporter for good Morning America, all in the ABC family,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: all on this American life. Um. So I think that
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: just to say, so what I love, because I want
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: to answer Ben's question before he really left, is um
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: is there's a I think that people and I know
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: that you and your your husband are both interested in
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: the multiverse. Um, because you have to be because of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: all the Marvel movies, and you can't escape them even
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: if you wanted to. And so I think that there's
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: the reason right now that people are so like fascinated
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: by the multiverse, which of course I am. To the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: multiverse that is Marvel or all the dating shows, no
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: like no, no, the multiverse that is like the concept
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: of the multiverse, the idea that there are endless timelines
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: happening at once, and there's different views in different universes,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: a million doctors strangers from here to there. Is is
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: that I think a lot of us really like being
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: able to visualize what our life would be like if
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: we had made different choices. Um. I think a lot
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: of us like to really think about how things would
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: be different. Like, as an example, if you and that
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: guy had made a move that night, right that would
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: have you wouldn't be here right now. I'm assuming if
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: you guys had fallen for each other, you wouldn't be
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: here right now. You'd be you might be somewhere else.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: You might be somewhere you like more, but you might
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be here. You wouldn't have Jared, There's no place
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I'd rather be than here, except I could mute my
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: child if there was a button for that. And I
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: think that I think that you think about It's very
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: natural to think about regret and about wondering if you
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: could have done things better or done things differently. I
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: think we all think about that all the time. And
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: so the One that Got Away offers an opportunity, for
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: a very short time and a very limited time frame,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: for just a few people to feel like, hey, what
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: if you could just start again at zero? What if
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: you know? The idea for for Vince and Vince had
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: people come in on our show, people come into a portal.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: And that's very intentional, right, like the portal exists. We're
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: a little we're a little sci fi too, trying to
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: play with time travel, trying to play with the ideas
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: of time not mattering, which I think is a really
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: interesting thing to think about. I think a lot of
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: us the last couple of years in the pandemic have
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: felt like time has stood still and we've had a
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: lot more time to think about things we could have done,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: or want to do or should have done. Uh, And
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: all that kind of comes together in this place where
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: so all of a sudden Bins comes in and we
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: found people amazingly from his you know, from his high
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: school life and his college life and his law school
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: life and his adult life and and all of those
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: different places, and he gets to like restart as if
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: he's in high school. He gets to restart. You know,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: his first date with Eureka Um was one where we
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: found a limo that looked just like the limo that
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: they took two prompt together and got to just go,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: what if you got to do that night again? You
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: know that that kind of wish fulfillment, I think is
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: stuff that we all wish we could do, right, you
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: relive that first night, you know, I'm sure Ashley, you
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: think about your wedding all the time and think about
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: different different day, different ways that that could have on
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: and slightly you know, obviously it was perfect, but you
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, like perfect, and it was our
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: anniversaries in two days. Can you be lose in three years?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Three years? It's incredible three years that he officiated our wedding.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: In the he needs to win an award, all time,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: all time award, not just the Oscar for the Year,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: but like the all time Oscar for doing the best
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: officiating at any wedding ever. Okay, sorry Alan to continue, Well,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: just to say that that was the best wedding I've
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: ever been to. So I was just there as like
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: a guest, so that's how I saw it. But um,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: all that to say, like, I think that's what the
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: One That Got Away does so well and does so differently,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: And like again, like I love that there's a wide
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: variety of dating shows out there. I love the ones
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: that I like, I love the ones that I get
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: to work on, I love the ones that I don't.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: And I think that like the way I love Ninety
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Day Fiance as a consumer is also the way that
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I love One That Got Away as a consumer, which
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: is like it's just peering into other people's lives in
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: a way that makes me learn more about how people are,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: which is always what I'm interested in. Like, you get
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: to watch people be people, and you know, I think
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: that's cool. Like Ashley, You've like just to say, like
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: you've lived, I think, in the last ten years or so,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: an incredibly interesting life, incredibly like all kinds of ups
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: and downs and lefts and rights, and the fact that
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: like that could have gone on, and no one could
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: have ever known. Right, all of that could have happened
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: without a single camera around, without a single photograph, without
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: a single Instagram follower, all of that could have happened.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: But instead we got to come along for the ride,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: and I got to sit in my ass at home
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: and watch you and Jared go through this incredible, incredible
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: love story over three years essentially, and then get married
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: and then have a baby and all that. And so
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: it's this weird need for connection where like, I feel
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: like I know you and Jared really well, but I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: also feel like there's millions of others that do too,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: and I think that those are all genuine and interesting relationships.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: I think people feel invested and committed and they learn lessons,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's a lot of people who have
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: seen themselves as Ashley Eyes over the years that go like,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep trying and I'm gonna whittle this man's
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: heart into the shape that I needed to be. Um.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: I still get told every day when we go to Audrey's,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: our coffee shop, every day, oh my god, you kept fighting,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: you kept fighting. I can't believe you guys are together.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: It's so wonderful to see you guys together, Like, I
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: love your story. It's it's insane. It's insane that it's
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: made a print on anyone. What but it doesn't. I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: think that dating shows make a print on a lot
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: of people. And I think that, like, yes, there's a
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: lot of it, it's just entertainment. It really is a
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: lot of it's just for fun. A lot of it's
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: just goofy and wacky, and a lot of that is
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: also important. And I think that people I think that that,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: you know, let's talk about the cast on these shows.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I think what they provide, right, more than what the
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: show provides, like what the people you know, Like you know,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you have been on
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: this radio show forever now, and you've been on a
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: lot of TV shows, and Vince was a lawyer and
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: is a lawyer, and just just like you, one day
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: decided to make that transition from having a life that's
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: all is just like you had a life that was
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: all yours, to opening it up to other people. And yes,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: let's not pretend there isn't like there's always you want
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: to do it for you, but it's also it's also
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: really nice to be able to open that up for
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: other people, and your process of being understood more or
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: being listened to more also allows people at home to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: feel that way, and I think that's really cool. I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: think people underestimate how open you have to be as
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: a reality show dating contestant, especially, and I think they
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: also underestimate how much you guys are a part of
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: our lives and like a part of the culture that
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: surrounds us, for better, for worse, sometimes great, sometimes not great,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, like a lot
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: of our examples of what modern romances come from these shows. Yeah, Vince,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: I want you to preview your time on the show
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: in a second, But I have one last question for
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: a long that has to do with casting, because you
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: brought it up. What are the similarities between casting the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: three dating shows that you've produced, and what are the differences, Like,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: who were you looking for in each scenario? That's a
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: good that's a really good question. I think that I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: think that in I'd say almost all shows that I've
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: ever worked on in any kind of casting have been
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: more or less the same in the kinds of people
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: that were looking for, with the exception of A Boy Island,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: right Boy Island has a very different You're like, we're
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: specifically looking for f boys. That's the thing is that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: like F Boy, F Boy Island is weirdly like the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: one that got away. All the shows I was like
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: enough to work on the Bachelor franchise, all of those
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: are really about trying to find people who are open
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: and dynamic, who can express themselves emotionally. I know you
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: can do that. Actually events can do it too, um
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: different ways, but nonetheless um. People that are are are
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: open and willing and and have the ability to put
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: their feelings into words, which is just some people have
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: it more naturally than others, and you can learn it
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: for sure, And you can also learn to not do it,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: which a lot of people do as they go through
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: their dating processes. They learn not to express those things,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: and that's a different thing. F Boy Island is a
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: game show. At the end of the day, it's a
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: it's a competition, right and of course, as you know,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: all dating shows are inherently somewhat competitive, are inherently competitions.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: But there's something very very different about a show that
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: has a monetary prize at the end, because you can
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: legitimately do game play and game theory, and I think
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: that people, you know, I think that most of the
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: time on on dating shows, people are anxious to be themselves.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: And I think f Boy Island is different because it
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: gives people on the opportunity to be themselves or be
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: someone else completely. And I think that that is what
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: creates that such interesting dynamic in that house, is that
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: half the people someone someone tweeted something the other day
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: that I thought was so smart, which was like half
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: of these people are on a dating show and half
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: of these people are on a Big Brother and it
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: was like, there's just different ways of playing the same game.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: And weirdly, as you know, the feelings remain real because
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: there's enough people that actually, you know, as you know,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of people go onto these shows not to
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: fall in love, and then they do. And I think
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: it's very, very very I think it's very common to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: be skeptical, and I think that being skeptical is usually
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the best way to be open because you actually talk
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: about your fears and you talk about your doubts, and
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: you talk about your concerns and your worries, and you're
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: less likely to paint over some of the red flags
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: you see if you're a little bit more skeptical, and
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: so I think that's a That's one thing that I've
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: always really looked to. Also, is that, like I want,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: you know, vance I can ask you, because I like,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: did you believe when you first signed up for this
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: that you were going to fall madly in love? Or
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: did you think it would be a fun experience? Yeah?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: I mean absolutely just a fun experience. You know, I
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: thought the premise lended itself to probably the best chance
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: for me. But I thought, you know, I'm just gonna
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: go in open hearted, open minded and see what alone
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: has for me. Actually, I don't know, I don't do you.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think maybe you're you're a different beast
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: though actually I don't know what you think. I was
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: actually gonna say, like, Vince, are you in agreeance with
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: me that it was mostly for like a once in
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: a lifetime fun opportunity, super open and wanting to find
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: a relationship, like want to leave this with a happily
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: ever after, but know that the odds are so so low. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: I honestly like, looking back, I'm like, oh my gosh, Like,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: how did I ended up you know, leaving engaged? Like
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: it just it blows my mind because I am going
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: into a spoiler alert. Oh my god, but I'm missing
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: that episodes out now? Yeah, so all episodes are out
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: now of the one that got away on Amazon Prime,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: so I mean you can watch it on freeb also
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: for free now or not. That's so amazing, Thank you
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: so much. Okay, so you did just spoil your story.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: There's lots of stories that will go unspoiled. How incredible
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: is that that you left engaged? Are you so happy?
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: And when you first just for the audience, like just
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: painting a little picture of like your can you paint
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: a little picture of your story since you know you
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: disspoiled yourself, Like maybe you start when you start the portal?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Right when when when you first met her? Yeah, the portal?
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Was it who you wanted? So honestly, the girls that
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: came through me for the port for me, I had
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: no idea they were going to be there first of all,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: like the whole casting process was crazy, but all of
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: them were surprised, but I was. Yeah, the girl that
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: I ended up leaving a show with, I remember the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: first time I saw her. You can't even see in
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: the reaction in my eyes. I was just like, oh
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: my gosh, like it's been ten plus years, like the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: fact that she even remembers me, and like it's willing
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: to put herself out there for me. It was just
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: like it blew my mind because we weren't really like
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: like super close or anything like we were just kind
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: of acquaintances. She went to problem with when my good friends,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: and you know, I never really thought like, oh, you know,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I thought she was cute. I never thought like,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: you know, there was a misstop between necessarily until she came.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: And it was like once I got to know her,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, like this girl is
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: It's so sweet, like like basically my type. And I
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: was like, I was like, man, along there, I was like,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: you guys like set this up so perfectly because she
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: was exactly I feel like what I wanted. And as
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: time progress, you just see our bond like we were
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: both like water signs. I'm a Pisces, she's a cancer,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: I'm a pieces and Jared's a Scorpio. And don't even
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: get this, don't even get me started, because there's a
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: classic in my book line in Paradise in which I
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: said I have a Pisces female and he's a Scorpio male,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: and that is like one of the best combinations in
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: the zodiac. It is. And I literally remember after the show,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: we were like looking up our astrologicals because we are
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: so very much both water signs, and you can see
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: it on the show, like our emotions were just pouring
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: out to each other and we were just very like
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: sensitive and empathetic towards each other. And you know, I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: feel like you can see that difference, like and all
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: the other girls that kind of came for me, like
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: you can sit like just feel that there's a sense
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: of closes between me and Eureka, and yeah, that that
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: for me, Oh my gosh, like it's changed my life.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: And you know, after the show, it was you know,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: I remember like we had to make an announcement, you know, like, oh,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: are we guys still together? And I don't know if
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: I should just spoil it, but you can see it
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: on my Instagram and we give a whole update that
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: we're speaking to the hardcore fans right now. It felt
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: so real. Every step of the way was so genuine.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: We weren't on this show looking for like, you know,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: cloud or anything like that. We genuinely, you know, I
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: was a lawyer already having a job. Like she came in.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: She works, you know, for a big company doing it
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: as a consultant. So we genuinely just wanted this to work.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: And that was like my biggest takeaway from the show
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: was her. And you know, I feel like right now
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: we still keep in touch. I was. I just saw
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: her last week. She came down um from New York,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: and it's just there's just this bond that you have,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: you know, when you meet someone on show and like
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: you tell me, let me feel this way too. Actually,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: it's like you just have this like level of closeness
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: that you can't really share with anybody else. Right's almost
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: like a fraternity or like you know, if you like
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: leave like a military, like the military, you were in
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: battle together. There there's like that like sense of closest bonds,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: you know. That's how I know I know it. I
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: went to on a trip with this podcast to Tahoe
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: and we hung out with a couple of people from
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor franchise and their friends that I don't get
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: to see like on a very regular basis, But when
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: we get together, it's like no time has passed. We
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: were so comfortable together because that shared experience. I can
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: go on and on and on, but I feel like
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: we should just have everybody who's listening watch your story.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: So it's the one that got away on Prime Video
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: can stream it all now. I'm so happy for you.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: I have so many more questions for a long when
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: it comes to reality dating. So perhaps we can have
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: you on again. Um and Vince, congratulations on the engagement.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: That's so awesome. Than you, Ashley, have your family for me,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: all of them. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: will all right. Thank you for running us. See ya,
• 1:22:00
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