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Empowering Veteran Healing: Dr. Jason Ozuna's Journey from Military to Energy Healing and Neuroencoding Transformation · Your Thoughts Your Reality

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  Speaker 1: Thank you, michael Cole.
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  Speaker 1: The podcast that shines a compassionate light on the journey of veterans battling through life's challenges.
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  Speaker 1: Michael is a dual elite, certified neuro encoding specialist in coaching and keynote training presentations dedicated to guiding military veterans as they navigate the intricate pathways of post deployment life.
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  Speaker 1: Join him as we delve into the profound realm of neuro encoding science, empowering these brave individuals to conquer universal battles procrastination, self-doubt, fear and more.
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  Speaker 1: Together, let's uncover the strength within you to re-engage with families and society, forging a new path forward.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, hello, hello everybody.
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  Speaker 2: So we had some struggles, we got it.
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  Speaker 2: We're here.
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  Speaker 2: We're live.
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  Speaker 2: We have Dr Jason Azuna on here.
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  Speaker 2: He's a renowned speaker and philosopher.
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  Speaker 2: Jason is a celebrated speaker known for his thought-provoking insights and his approach to life's challenges, and I'm super excited to get into that with you, jason, and I'm super excited to get into that with you, jason.
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  Speaker 2: An energy healer with focused energy healing, jason works with high achieving entrepreneurs and business owners to help them unlock their full potential.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing how we lock that down, and Jason's going to go through some tips and thoughts on that as well.
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  Speaker 2: He does life changing energy work.
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  Speaker 2: He's a sought-after healer as well and an Army veteran, which I just learned as well.
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  Speaker 2: Since we connected Jason, why don't you tell us just a little bit more about yourself, sir?
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was.
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  Speaker 3: You know I've gone through almost like a jack-of-all-trades, so to speak.
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  Speaker 3: I was a personal trainer, I was in the military infantry, serviced in Schofield barracks, and so after that I went into business and then I went to medical school and then I went to chiropractic school and got all these degrees and then after chiropractic school I went into energy healing and now I went into coaching, because you know, you naturally kind of working with people so much through the healing arts, you realize that there's something more going on up here than that's affecting the physical body.
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: Rather than just, you know, giving a medicine or giving an adjustment even to somebody, they need like a perception adjustment, a outlook of life adjustment, the way they see the world adjustment, you know, like neuro encoding adjustment, a neural, neurologistic adjustment, Right, and so that's, that's what you got to hear.
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  Speaker 2: Very cool.
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  Speaker 2: So, and I can, I can use, I can use the neck adjustment.
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  Speaker 2: Right now I'm on my way, jason.
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  Speaker 2: So so what really brought you into and what made you?
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  Speaker 2: You know your soul, if you will say hey, I want to help more people and I want to help them in this way.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the main thing was, is more of a calling.
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: So, like when I was seven, I remember just feeling this connection to God and just feeling like I want to be close to God, no matter what it, what it takes to this life, that it, that that path leads there, and then I can bring everybody with me right To discover the power of their souls, to discover their connection with God.
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: And to me, you know, both are one in the same.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you start to realize that you are that, and so, um, I was like you know, this is still a seven years old thinking that maybe I could be a psychiatrist or a pastor or something like that.
• 3:39
  Speaker 3: And then I, as I got older, I started following my dad's footsteps as an engineer, and so then I went to engineering school after I got out of the Army, so, but that wasn't for me.
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: So then I started to go over here into the healing arts, which is like chiropractic and then energy work chiropractic and then coaching chiropractic, and I saw the need to combine the two, and so that's kind of like what got me started is just a just this intense calling to, to serve the world in this way.
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  Speaker 2: That that's you know.
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  Speaker 2: You said seven years old, right, and most people were playing with GI Joes and things like that, and it's that you felt it at that age and it drew you all this time, or pulled you forward for that matter.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty, pretty amazing and and I know, you know, and I know we're involved with you and Carolyn and so on, and it's amazing the things you guys do.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: It absolutely is In your experience.
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  Speaker 2: How does energy healing specifically benefit veterans and their families during often challenging transition to civilian life?
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  Speaker 2: What do you see that could help them with energy healing?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the, the, you know I like to build a foundation in all my coaching and all the healing work that I do and and the the main energy work that I do is up here, right, that's what the neuron coding is and all that stuff.
• 4:59
  Speaker 3: It's like that is energy, we're all energy.
• 5:00
  Speaker 3: So one of the foundations I build is like the terminology, the identification of what we mean by energy work, because you know, you can get anything all the way from like a hippie type perspective of energy work or yoga type, yeah, and all the way to like a logistical sense.
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  Speaker 3: And since I was an engineer, I believe that the path, the reason why it took me down that engineer road first, is so that I can combine both logical and soul and all this stuff together.
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: Right, the non-logical.
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  Speaker 3: So when you think about how energy work can serve somebody, if they know what energy work is, it's simply knowing that if you have an emotion or, better yet, if you have a perception of something and that gives you an emotion and you don't know how to handle that emotion, and you can either label it as a trauma, which is a unprocessed experience that you store in your body energetically, or you can process it then and there, and it can give you wisdom, knowledge, higher consciousness and love, make you stronger, right?
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  Speaker 3: So when you go into like an energy work, you can either say well, what type of energy work?
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  Speaker 3: Is it like physical energy energy where I'm bringing up the emotions that I haven't connected with before and I'm allowing them to come to the surface and out of my body, so storing them in there, or am I talking about an energetic, uh, you know, rewiring, so to speak, of my neurology and the way I perceive this world in a conscious, verbal type way.
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  Speaker 3: And energy work could be something as simple as you hug somebody and then they start to cry in your arms because they feel safe enough to feel the trauma that they went through.
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  Speaker 3: And so when somebody actually has an experience, the reason energy work will help them is because, if you think about your reality, for all the veterans out there, they went through an experience and it's a traumatic.
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  Speaker 3: Some of them are traumatic experiences, right, and even for non-veterans, you know that just have like abuse in their family or divorces or loss of life or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right, right, it's, it's an experience.
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  Speaker 3: But if it's too much for the person to handle Because of their perception of that experience, then they'll disconnect from that experience.
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  Speaker 3: Therefore, they won't actually be having the experience.
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  Speaker 3: They'll be avoiding the experience.
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  Speaker 3: But since they've avoided it and they've labeled that this as this is a very, very scary experience, which understandably so, by the way, we're not putting anybody down that does this, because we all do this.
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: This is every single human being on earth.
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  Speaker 3: Once they label it as this is too scary, then it gets stored, the stress and the perception of that experience gets stored in their body and then it becomes a PTSD type thing, and everybody's going through PTSDs.
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  Speaker 3: If you have judgments in your body and everybody does, because we're all human right Some of them bigger than others, because some of them are scary.
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  Speaker 3: So when you have that experience, if you think about it, if you didn't actually have it, you can't grow from it.
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  Speaker 3: But if your perception of it is this is scary and you actually had it, then you're in you, but you haven't had it because it's too scary.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to stay a stress as something to avoid in your future or present, presently, right now.
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  Speaker 2: Right Holding it back yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And so then now you have this, this 24 hour stress in your body, and so that's what we're going to keep on watching out for I got to make sure I don't have this experience.
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: But when we have the actually emotion, the connection to the experience, then all of a sudden we realize that this was actually something to grow our consciousness.
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: You know, if somebody has a death in the family, you can see that if they're avoiding feeling their feelings, they actually haven't processed the death because they're so afraid to actually admit that they've lost, whoever they lost.
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: But when they cry it's almost like this sense of relief and the sense of like not just relief wisdom of like, well, for somehow I feel like they're in a better place, somehow I feel like, you know, we all die and that there's more to life than this.
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: And it actually gets, it grows our consciousness about death Right.
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: So when we actually process whatever the scary thing is the trauma, the traumatic event then we grow in our wisdom.
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  Speaker 3: So the higher the trauma or the scarier the experience, the more greater the gift that lies within.
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: So you know, for all the veterans out there that have gone through pretty intense things, if they really let themselves, you know, continue the warrior in them, the courage, the courageous, uh, soldier in them, uh, go through one more battle, which is like facing their demons, right, with support by the way, loving support then they can actually process it and then it will actually take them to a new level of their consciousness and love and strength and ability.
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: And therefore, because you see some veterans get out of the military and they become rich, they become all that stuff because they process their stuff and some, you know, because they went to too much stuff and not enough support, and that's the key there If they didn't have the support to match the challenge, then anybody under those conditions won't be able to thrive Right and it takes you down the other way.
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: So, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: I love that, and a lot of what you said is things that you know.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: I I have seen myself firsthand working with veterans and so on.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: When you, when you break down, you know, let's, let's make it simple.
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: So when you break down, you have a table or a chair and you break, you have four legs to stabilize that belief system.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: I call it the BS system, if you will.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: You have that belief system and when you break down one of those belief systems, one of those support systems, and you give it that new definition, like you're saying, of something to grow from, learn from, be better from, you see literally a change instantly.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: You see a softening instantly, and this just happened just recently, matter of fact, and it's one of the most beautiful things you see with someone that is dealing with PTSD.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: And again, it can be combat, it can be non-combat, it could be a trauma in anybody's life that is just recirculating in their brain and when you break that down and give it a positive belief that they can know, that they can learn from, move from and become more from, instead of that that negative energy, if you will, it's, it's absolutely amazing to see it, and so thank you for that explanation, that the science behind it and all of that is.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: It's really mind bending, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: You know, for the average person that doesn't study it and go through it.
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  Speaker 2: So absolutely fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: So so let's, let's dive deeper into that if we can.
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  Speaker 2: That worked for you.
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  Speaker 2: So what are some of the first things that in the body that you feel when you're holding onto something with trauma?
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: That the person feels or that I feel when I'm working on the person.
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: Let's start with the person feels.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: Then we're going to dive deep into what you feel, because that is so interesting to me to see what you guys do.
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: Well, the thing that I believe people are fearing is death, you know.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: And then safety.
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: We're all trying, you know I also come up with different synonyms for love and to really describe what love is.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: I also come up with different synonyms for love and to really describe what love is.
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: Sometimes people get confused with the movies that we watch or think of love as like this romantic thing, or kindness.
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  Speaker 3: And love is a beingness, it's a.
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  Speaker 3: It's a higher consciousness, right?
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: It's also compassion, and compassion isn't niceness either.
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: It's a higher consciousness around the way a person works and what's really behind their actions, instead of taking things personally, right?
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: So, um, when you start to go into the, what was the original question?
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  Speaker 2: So I can specifically go feel it, uh, in their bodies, literally, so that they can be more aware of hey, something's not right, it's not just I have a headache, or it's not my left arm hurts, what are they?
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: What are some of the things people feel, so they can be looking for this, not to bring out negative things necessarily, but just to be aware of it.
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: Well, the first thing they're going to feel.
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  Speaker 3: Is this fear right?
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: The fear is going to lead to anger, emotions, what's it called Self-doubt numbness, like, in other words, no emotions.
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  Speaker 3: It could lead to like not enough feeling.
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  Speaker 3: There's all kinds of like it's never going to end feelings like stressful feelings, and people can tell when they have a stressful feeling.
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: They'll also have physical ailments.
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: You know, and a lot of veterans will have physical ailments in their body, not just from the physical things that they've gone through, but also the mental things that they've gone through that continue to release stress from the adrenal glands, which are located above the kidneys, on a 24 hour drip into the body, right.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: So then that's a catabolic chemical adrenaline, unless it's burned off.
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: So when they those, they'll notice both stressful perceptions of life.
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: They'll get triggered easily and then they'll also notice like physical ailments, right, and both those things can indicate to them.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Hopefully they won't be like oh, this is just the way the body is Right, or this is just the way my mind works, or this is the way I am, or maybe they're really into the illusion.
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: They're thinking this is just the way life is.
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  Speaker 3: It just poos on me, so to speak.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like it's like it's just all out to get me.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: That's the victimization, right.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: But when they start to like connect with well, why am I scared, what's this, what's this ailment that I have?
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: And then they can say, well, if I, if I was just having the ailment, I didn't have any stresses, then maybe it's just the ailment.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: But more often than not they're going to find that like, yeah, I have a lot of ailments, but I also have a lot of things that stress me out, a lot of things that trigger me.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: So the good news is, if they start to identify those things that are really like hitting home to their heart, that triggers them out of their love, out of their peace, out of their safety, then they can start to work on those things.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: And that's where I'm saying like you know, you want to get back into your courageous heart and say like I'm willing to face those things.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: You know, neil Armstrong was the first guy on the moon and the what.
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: He would be willing to risk his life and go down in a fiery death and that rocket.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: But the one thing that scared him was telling his kids that he might not be coming home.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: So it takes more courage than we realize we can, we can have all the courage out there, but when it there's some things that really, really scare us, right, and so that's that's one of the things that they can notice, those are the red flags are saying dig here for higher consciousness and higher love.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: So would you say that the more you see the same things popping up in your body?
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: As far as ailments, hey there's.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: If the doctors aren't finding anything, maybe there's something on a deeper level, subconscious level?
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: And really understanding, like when you go to the next level after you do that part, really understanding that like these things are not true.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Just like you know, neuro encoding talks about these are perceptions.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: These are unless we're taught, and that's what I tell people.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: You know, just because we get older, it doesn't mean that we have consciousness.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: It's we have to actually have a processed experience.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: That was either either we actually had and we really connected with and we got wisdom for that, or we had good teachers, parents that taught us how to handle our emotions and all this stuff.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: And you know, and sometimes we go through stuff, especially veterans.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, what parent taught them how to deal with some of the stuff that they've gone through, especially if they went through war, right?
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: So then it becomes like again, it goes back to that support.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: So getting support is very important and having the courage to even ask for support and feeling worthy enough to be supported is also another thing that veterans want to really tune into.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I would.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: You know, one of the things I coach and train on all the time is, you know what, stepping forward and saying, hey, I'm struggling, I could use some support, I could use some help.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Totally goes.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Everything that veterans are conditioned into, you know they're conditioned into figure it out yourself.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: That's right Dirt on it if you will, as we all were as kids, but you know.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: But stepping forward is is one of the most courageous things you can do.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: you know, build that community around yourself.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: You know those kinds of things that you can safe and comfortable doing.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: So that's one of the things we work so hard on.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: So amen for you bringing that up.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: So I want to go further, and now we're about halfway through the podcast, so into what you do.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: So as far as the energy healing and energy work that you do, okay, so for the average person that watches your videos or Carolyn's videos, they're like what the hell is going on here.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Excuse my language, but they are.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: So what kind of go through that process of what is happening when, when the people are on that table or you know, just in that amazing loving space that you guys create, by the way, just what in safe space is even more important I'd say what's going on?
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: What is the actual physical things that are going on there?
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Well, if you kind of consider that well, first of all, like the body will, if you feel down in the dumps, you'll do this right, kind of like lean over.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: If you feel good, you'll be standing upright right, and also your breath has different patterns when you feel good or when you feel afraid.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: So already you can tell that when energy is being felt, a state of mind will cause a movement in the body or a position in the body right.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Really quick, jason.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I really sorry to interrupt, but I think it's really important.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Can you talk about what's happening with the breath and what's stress breath compared to you know, being in a good physiology and a good emotional state?
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Well, stress, breath would be more shallow, more rapid, right and, as opposed to like.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: And you can feel the energy of both Right.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: It's like, just if, whoever is viewing this, if they just did that, they'd be like, oh wow, one of them is more chaotic.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'll share with you.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: There's times Everything I coach on is things that I do myself.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: There's no theory there, it's all stuff I really do.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And I've noticed that when you know and I feel stressed but I know how to snap myself out with neuroencoding very quickly.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: So when you are just going or barely breathing, and you're barely tummy breathing, it's funny how it's like oh, hold on, I'm not breathing right.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: And when you sit there and you think almost of a baby breathing and how they breathe into their belly and it's slow and it's calm and then it goes back down right, it's amazing when you turn your breath to that and focus on it, almost a meditation, but you can do it totally.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You know, paying attention to the rest of the world, it's amazing how your whole physiology and mental state changes.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: So thank you for bringing that up.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: And also they can do a quick test, you know, if they want to know how important breath is, see how long you can go without it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: It's essential to our very survival, right?
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: So when you're like shallow breathing or barely breathing, you're barely doing the one thing that keeps us, or one of the one.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: You know there's also our nervous systems, a couple things, but breath is so important we can only last five minutes without it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: So when you start to take full breaths and nice and calm, you're affecting the energy, but you're also breathing in life, literal life, into your body, and you're also feeling safe because you have an abundance of breath, life in your body.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: And so when somebody says, oh, this breathing work or breathing techniques don't work, it's like, well, I mean, just just connect with how important the breath is, you know, and then they'll appreciate a little bit more.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I think I didn't think about it that way, but you did present a perspective like that.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: So so you know, and we'll get back to what we were talking about but it is amazing if, if you literally just take those breaths, how you feel it in your body different, that's right, just that literally one good, solid, slow breath in through the nose, out through the mouth, and it is absolutely amazing how just change, and you feel it in your body.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you for that Truly.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: So sorry for the interruption, but I just want to talk about that for a second so we can get back to what you, what you do.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: So you know, we we make first of all we scan the body for the positions that I was talking about.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: You know, I just gave two basic conditions, like feeling good, feeling on top of the world.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: It's like you're like this, right, everybody remembers the Titanic.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: He wasn't on top of the Titanic going like I'm king of the world, right, they were like that and that's always the position.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So there's self-loathing that comes with a position bending to this.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: There's victimization where it's like this you don't know why this is happening to you.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Dogs do that.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: When you hit them with a, uh, when you hit them a period, they're like I don't know why this is happening to me.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: So they tuck their tail, bone their tail between their legs and then they're like this, right.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: So, and you see people like that because they feel victimized throughout their life.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: So, depending on like we go up to them and we read their bodies, and depending on what, what type of position they're in, I can see what they're experiencing in their life about themselves.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I can also feel it doing this long enough.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I can feel what they're going through.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I can feel the emotions that they're going through, right.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: So then I'll see where on their body I need to address.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: We'll do like a light touch on specific parts of their body or go where you know.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I'll just follow where the energy takes me because you'd be surprised and you know, kind of like, when we like we're talking right now, it's like something comes to you and says ask this or talk about this, right.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Well, it's the same way.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: When we're working on people.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: It's like go here and these beautiful things are orchestrated by a higher power that we can't see and it's guiding us, and so the more we do this work, the more you'll be guided as you become more skillful at your craft, because you're going to be connecting to a higher part of you and God itself.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: So this is the same thing that's happening, the guidance that happens on the table as well.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: But when we do that, when we ask the right questions or go to the right spots or connect to the right spots of the body, then the body will go into the energy that's stored at that specific spot.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: So literally I can go up to somebody's neck and just touch them right here and they'll start to feel an experience of their parents putting them down.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Or maybe for veterans it might be something they went through with war or just something they went through in the service, and then all the emotions that have been stored in the body will come up.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Now, remember, we're not inducing a painful emotion and I wouldn't say that any veterans who's wanting to do energy work or be coached by you or anyone, that that's the goal.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: The goal is to connect with a hurt part of us that's kind of been locked away in here into our body and give them the attention, give them the hug, give them the love so that they can let those emotions out that they're holding in.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: So it's more of a connecting to an ignored part of ourselves.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like if you had a kid, you wouldn't want to ignore that kid.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: If they were feeling bad, you'd want to go up to them and hug them and say, hey, talk to me.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: And that's what we're doing energetically.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: We're giving the energy that's stored in the body a chance to connect with the person's heart and soul.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: And then when that happens just like certain positions can come with certain states of being or certain energies felt well, energy being processed looks like not a stationary position but more of a motion, and then with the motion comes an emotion as well.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: So their bodies are moving and their and their emotions are coming out and they're literally having like, uh, one one thing, one traumatization in your life can cause a chain reaction in many parts of your life, like low self-esteem, can affect all these relationships that we have and cause more traumas.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: And so healing one thing can actually heal many things at once Wow, so alleviate a large part of their life.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: So that's why we say it's like 30 years of growth in three days when they come to our events.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: It's a total life changing thing.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Why we say it's like 30 years of growth in three days when they come to our events.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: It's a total life-changing thing.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: So this is this is what I would say is is happening when, when we work on them and then we combine that with like words, like this to teach them about the concepts of what we're saying.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Because when you can actually change the perception through any method which is like a hug, presence or energy, work energetically on the table or words, it changes everything.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: You change your perception, you change your energy right, and you change your neurology.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: So if you just think about one quick example for them, if they think about somebody cutting them off on the freeway and the road rage comes over them, they'll be like I'm super angry and I could heal them in, or they could allow themselves to be healed in an instant.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I could make the.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: If I said I could make your road rage go away, just like that.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: They'd be like, well, maybe not, but if I said you know what was happening when they cut you off, they were rushing to save their family from a fire and you can say that like the most intense road rage would be like, oh my God, I hope they're okay.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: So they went from road rage to love and understanding, just like that.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Because something was known up here, a higher level of information was attained right, so that's also energy work.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: So you combine the two of like understanding how they work, how life works, and allowing the emotions to come out, and you have a total shift of their entire life.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Fantastic man.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I am so excited about January.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're going to be there, I cannot wait to play with you guys.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: So you know you brought up something about, you know, road rage.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: It is something I actually worked and I'm going to go through this very quickly with my clients and I found it by accident.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: So, justin McLennan, third, my mentor, um, you know, yeah, um, you know, saying it's a tool I teach as well.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: You know anybody within you say within 50 feet of you, put intent on them Don't say it out loud because they'll lock you up but say I love you and feel it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: You know, and when you do that, it's, it's really, uh, it changes your state very quickly.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: You start connecting with people that you would know have no idea.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Connected with and talking to people in Walmart, like everybody, just that normally no one talks, you know, and so I teach people and it's something I came across.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: When someone cuts me off or does something like that, I put intent on them and I say I love you and I smile, release all the good hormones and everything else, and I say it three times, the third time if I'm not already released, and all that anger is gone.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I say it a little funny I love you or something like that and instantly it's gone.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So I literally have gotten rid of road rage by saying I love you three times to whoever does it, because is it going to matter three months from now, three years from now?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: No, not going to remember that, but just to release yourself from that and create that different belief system, if you will.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: It's.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely amazing.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: So glad you brought that up.
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what you're doing when you say that is you're, you're just, you know just the release of the judgments, because road rage happens from a judgment of like, how can they do this?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: They make a meaning about themselves, so we don't always have a chance to talk to them and find out what's really going on.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: And so when you say I love you and if you say it more than once, it's like you're putting it on a repetitive basis into your system that at least the judgments aren't around.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: When you're saying that, right, just like you can't get mad.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: When you're like this Right, so you're saying I love you, you're having faith that something's going on with them.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: You don't know and you're just saying, but I send you my love anyway, right, and then you're.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: So it's like, literally, you're getting over and you're muting all the things that you think it could be or could mean about yourself.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: So that's, that's a wonderful practice.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, thank you, yeah, absolutely, and again thank you for bringing that up.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I just like you said I was called to talk about it, so.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: So we're getting you know at the end of the show here.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: So first of all, you know this has been amazing and I would love to have you back on Jason.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I think we fairly scratched the surface.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I could talk for like three days with you, my friend.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: So how do people reach out to you if they're interested in learning more about what you're doing specifically?
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Well, they can go on Facebook or Instagram.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Look up Dr Jason Ozuna or my wife, carolyn Ozuna.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: We're both on Facebook.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: And then I think we have a website that you could probably put a link to sparkyourrockstarcom.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: That started way back when, when she first started that, and we kind of kept that name.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: So it's basically sparking the soul and the amazing, infinite soul that you are from within, right, so they can go there, they can instant message us my wife especially, she's the one that really handles all that stuff and so, any one of those avenues, they can also reach out to you, probably, and say like, hey, what event are you going to in January?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: If you guys do like, january is going to be like the.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: You know, if you're new to the work, january will be the best place to go.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: We have programs that are, like you know, 8,000, 30,000, all that stuff.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: January is 500.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: So that's our one of our lowest, and I say that because our other programs are intense and they change your life intensely, right, and but if you really want to like, hey, I just kind of like want to see and understand, because there's no way to fully, truly understand the amount of life changing that happens at these events.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: But this would be a great way to start truly understand the amount of life changing that happens at these events.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: But this would be a great way to start and to be there.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, cindy's going to be there.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: You told me hey, so first time you guys go, make sure you let me know, Cause I want to be there.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: So, like over the moon, I'm so excited to play with all of you guys.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Honestly.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I can't wait.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: It's going to be amazing.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Excellent.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: So, if we can again, we're over time now, but we own the place, that's okay.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Can you give us three tips to get veterans and their families further faster?
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Well, one I would start to not be to realize that the thoughts that we have that prevent us because it's getting into the family is just like there's all these perceptions and those what we call blocks, right, neurological blocks.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: So realizing one the emotions aren't real, that an emotion doesn't eat.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: So if you feel bad, you're not actually bad.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: If you feel like you're not safe, you're not actually not safe.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Right, if you feel like you don't have enough, it doesn't mean that you actually don't have enough.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: So, just, we feel the emotions, because if you feel great and you feel powerful, you're going to be great and powerful in the world.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: But if we succumb to the emotions because we don't want to feel them, then we're not going to act accordingly in our true power.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: So, if they know that the emotions are, are, are, are soul's sensory organs to like, uh, basically, you know like I can, I can experience the way this pen feels, because I, I can feel it, I can see it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Those are senses.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Well, the soul has emotions to sense, like a movie or something.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: So one don't be afraid of your emotions.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: And to um, realize that practice over time equals your goal, and to relieve the expectations on yourself of getting it right or perfect the first time.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: There really is no perfection, there is only growth.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: There's nothing really wrong for us and even anything that needs to be healed.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: There is only things that continue to evolve in us, right.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: So releasing the expectations and really just looking at it like this is a practice thing.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: This is a better with growth thing, and if I, as long as I don't give up, the practice over time will equal my, my goal.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: And so, and then to giving your heart, practicing giving and receiving equally.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: So if well, let me, let me tailor that practice them equally, at least.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: But if they're really struggling through something, then practice receiving the most, because the most important thing is for us to feel safe first and then start the process of connecting with all these things right, to really realize that there's nothing wrong with us, there's nothing that that even needs to be healed.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: There's just something that needs to be connected with very beautifully, and there's a reason why my soul chose this challenge in this life to become stronger and to become the light for other souls.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: And so those three things is what I would say.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I love it, absolutely love it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Jason, thank you so much for being on.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I just want to remind everybody really quick on the, because I totally got in the conversation.
• 33:16
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• 33:21
  Speaker 2: No, it's that way.
• 33:22
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• 33:24
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• 33:25
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• 33:27
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• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: There are all kinds of resources free e-books I've written and again resources page to get into Facebook groups that we've created just to create that community.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So you're not alone, you don't feel alone.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Come join us, be involved in that community for you and other veterans and their families, please.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: So, with that said, jason, time is the most valuable resource that humans have.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: We'd never get it back.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for spending the time.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I'm honored to have you on it as a guest and hopefully have you back on.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: It was truly an honor for me as well.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to be back on.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Thank you, man.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Everybody, we're out of here.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: All right, Bye guys.
• 34:17
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• 34:23
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