Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / AFANT CEO David Ciaravolo says recreational fishing has contributed $270 million in annual GDP and supports 2,500 full time jobs in the NT according to a recent survey
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We know that the National Social and Economic Survey of
- 0:03Speaker 1: Recreational Fishes for twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one. It's
- 0:07Speaker 1: a report which has just been released last week. Now.
- 0:10Speaker 1: The aim of the study was to better understand the
- 0:13Speaker 1: social and economic contributions of recreational fishing in Australia and
- 0:18Speaker 1: to identify how to best assess those contributions using cost
- 0:22Speaker 1: effective methods. Now joining me in the studio right now
- 0:27Speaker 1: from AFANT, the CEO of AFAN, David Chirrovolo.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Good morning to you, David.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Lovely to have you on the show. David. Have you
- 0:36Speaker 2: got a bit of a breakdown of this report for
- 0:40Speaker 2: the Northern Territory.
- 0:41Speaker 4: I certainly do, and there's some amazing figures here. This
- 0:44Speaker 4: is a study that FAN, along with our National Peak body,
- 0:47Speaker 4: have been pressuring the Komwalth government to invest in for
- 0:50Speaker 4: some time. So it's great to finally have the results.
- 0:53Speaker 4: Look basically some some stellar figures for the Northern Territory.
- 0:57Speaker 4: Recreational fishing measured to be too contribute two hundred and
- 1:01Speaker 4: seventy million dollars of annual GDP to the Northern Territory.
- 1:05Speaker 4: And support will contribute directly to two and a half
- 1:11Speaker 4: thousand full time ongoing jobs in the Northern Territory.
- 1:15Speaker 2: That's a massive number, is it is?
- 1:17Speaker 4: And I don't think it surprises people who go recreationally
- 1:20Speaker 4: fishing or those in the industry. You only have to
- 1:22Speaker 4: look around town to see the jobs in the fishing guides,
- 1:25Speaker 4: the tackle stores, the boat stores, the accommodation facilities, all
- 1:29Speaker 4: of those service industries, marine service industries and so on.
- 1:33Speaker 4: So it's not a surprise that it is that the
- 1:36Speaker 4: numbers are big, but it's great to finally have some
- 1:39Speaker 4: confirmation of this.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Yeah, is this the first time that a survey like
- 1:42Speaker 1: this has been conducted or has it happened before?
- 1:45Speaker 4: Look, there was a survey that was done way back
- 1:48Speaker 4: in two thousand and There's been some local attempts to
- 1:53Speaker 4: quantify various values, but that's really focused on expenditure. This
- 1:57Speaker 4: has been a much more sophisticated economic modeling. It's been
- 2:01Speaker 4: a project that's been led by Abears, who are the
- 2:04Speaker 4: Australian Government's Bureau for Agricultural Statistics, along with economists and sociologists.
- 2:13Speaker 2: And so how have they gathered all of this information?
- 2:15Speaker 1: I mean working out how much money it means to
- 2:18Speaker 1: the Northern Territory funding not funding wise GDP, how much
- 2:22Speaker 1: it means to the territory. But then also I guess
- 2:26Speaker 1: looking at things like employment and well being.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Even absolutely and look, I won't go too much into
- 2:31Speaker 4: the methodology because it's not my area of expertise, but
- 2:34Speaker 4: there is a lot of information in the report about that.
- 2:37Speaker 4: But certainly there were tens of thousands of people involved
- 2:40Speaker 4: in the study and they used three different samples that
- 2:43Speaker 4: were cross checked, so that it's a really rigorous way
- 2:46Speaker 4: of getting at these figures that they've never done before,
- 2:49Speaker 4: and they did have a multimillion dollar budget to do it.
- 2:53Speaker 4: What I think has been some really standout things is
- 2:55Speaker 4: I guess unexpectedly but great to confirm there are four
- 2:59Speaker 4: million Australians going fishing, but we have the highest rate
- 3:01Speaker 4: of participation here in the Northern Territory. Capital or one
- 3:06Speaker 4: in three people are fishing every year in the Northern Territory,
- 3:09Speaker 4: and so we certainly have a thirty three percent and
- 3:12Speaker 4: that's the highest per capita. We also have some great
- 3:16Speaker 4: figures looking at the well being of people who go.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Fishing and people who don't go fishing.
- 3:22Speaker 4: And what's an amazing finding here, which again I think
- 3:25Speaker 4: fishers wouldn't contest, is that people who go recreationally fishing
- 3:29Speaker 4: on average happier than people who don't go recreationally fishing.
- 3:33Speaker 3: The more you fish, the happier you are.
- 3:36Speaker 1: And also that if that's not a good enough excuse
- 3:38Speaker 1: for everybody to go out fishing on the weekend.
- 3:41Speaker 4: Then what is I know, as if we needed any
- 3:43Speaker 4: more excuses. But what's I think a really important thing
- 3:46Speaker 4: here is around resilience. So people have experienced some traumatic
- 3:50Speaker 4: events in their life where whether it's divorce, death of
- 3:53Speaker 4: a loved one, job, loss, major illness, they're far more
- 3:57Speaker 4: likely to fully recover and to recover fast if they continue.
- 4:01Speaker 3: To go fishing than people who don't go fishing.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Do you know, to me that's not even a huge
- 4:07Speaker 1: surprise when you catch up with people like the reeling
- 4:09Speaker 1: for veterans and the wonderful work that they do and
- 4:13Speaker 1: the way in which you know that really helps people,
- 4:15Speaker 1: I'm sort of not even surprised to hear that people
- 4:18Speaker 1: are happier and it does help them to be more resilient.
- 4:20Speaker 4: Well, I think when you look at all the challenges
- 4:22Speaker 4: that life throws at people in various different walks of life.
- 4:25Speaker 4: It's really clear to see that their recreational fishing can
- 4:29Speaker 4: support them to live happier, more full lives. And so
- 4:32Speaker 4: whether it is veterans, whether it is youth who have
- 4:36Speaker 4: strayed from strayed from the path, or whether we're talking
- 4:41Speaker 4: about older people who One of the other great findings
- 4:44Speaker 4: here is that beyond the age of sixty five, recreational
- 4:48Speaker 4: fishing is one of the few activities that people can
- 4:50Speaker 4: continue to do, and for those people it's the most
- 4:53Speaker 4: important physical exercise that they do. So it is a
- 4:57Speaker 4: really really important thing for people's lives. I think really
- 5:01Speaker 4: makes it clear that we need to continue to invest
- 5:04Speaker 4: in supporting the optimization of recreational fishing in the territory
- 5:08Speaker 4: and in the space of you know, cuts and changes
- 5:11Speaker 4: and all those kinds of things, especially around access. It
- 5:14Speaker 4: highlights how important it is for territorians to keep fishing.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, on that topic of sort of access and
- 5:21Speaker 1: the permits, I know that you and I had spoken
- 5:23Speaker 1: quite a bit about this towards the end of last year.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Has there been much movement in that space.
- 5:28Speaker 4: Well, one of the things around the permits, of course,
- 5:30Speaker 4: is that most of those permits that are available relate
- 5:34Speaker 4: to fairly far away places. We've had a pretty strong
- 5:38Speaker 4: wet season and that's there's a real you know, kick
- 5:40Speaker 4: in the tail of it. So there are probably not
- 5:42Speaker 4: as many people traveling as far to regional places at
- 5:46Speaker 4: the moment, so less people probably you know, certainly going
- 5:50Speaker 4: to the ROPA are going to places where they need
- 5:54Speaker 4: those permits. But we certainly do encourage people to share
- 5:57Speaker 4: with us at our fand their experiences if they have
- 6:00Speaker 4: any troubles with that system, to let us know.
- 6:03Speaker 3: We've had a few people get in touch and want
- 6:05Speaker 3: to be sort of talked through how to do it.
- 6:07Speaker 4: But of course people do need to go to the
- 6:09Speaker 4: NLC website for those fishing permits.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough.
- 6:11Speaker 1: And has it been fairly easy for people to be
- 6:13Speaker 1: able to jump on that website and try to get
- 6:16Speaker 1: those permits.
- 6:17Speaker 4: I think it's fair to say it hasn't been tested
- 6:19Speaker 4: yet because of the fact that people are not fishing
- 6:22Speaker 4: in those areas at the moment, and also that a
- 6:24Speaker 4: lot of the places that people can get permits too
- 6:28Speaker 4: are quite far afield places.
- 6:30Speaker 2: Okay, I do want to ask as well.
- 6:32Speaker 1: I know that the Northern Territory government has announced that
- 6:34Speaker 1: they've got some recreational fishing grants that are open at
- 6:37Speaker 1: the moment.
- 6:38Speaker 2: What can those funds go towards from your understanding.
- 6:41Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's a really good thing and really timing,
- 6:44Speaker 4: I think when we're thinking about all the benefits of
- 6:46Speaker 4: recreational fishing. So the grants applications are open now, and
- 6:50Speaker 4: this is again something that our fan has worked really
- 6:53Speaker 4: really fortunately with the government to make sure that we've
- 6:56Speaker 4: got a good recreation fishing grant scheme to support the community.
- 6:59Speaker 4: So certainly fishing clubs or not for profit associations can apply.
- 7:04Speaker 4: There's grants of fifteen thousand dollars for the small grants
- 7:08Speaker 4: or grants up to one hundred thousand dollars for large projects,
- 7:11Speaker 4: and they can fund a range of a range of
- 7:13Speaker 4: projects from participation events to sustainable fishing programs. And with
- 7:17Speaker 4: it being open right now, I would certainly encourage those
- 7:19Speaker 4: people in our community who need a little bit of
- 7:22Speaker 4: help to make sure that they can share the benefits
- 7:25Speaker 4: of recreational fishing that they get on there and apply.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Well, David Girovolo, it is always great to catch up
- 7:32Speaker 1: with you.
- 7:32Speaker 2: No doubt we'll talk to you again very soon.
- 7:34Speaker 1: And wonderful to see the results of that survey so
- 7:37Speaker 1: positive for the Northern Territory as well when it comes
- 7:40Speaker 1: to fishing.
- 7:41Speaker 4: Yeah great, Katie, thank you, thanks for having us on.
- 7:43Speaker 4: And just a reminder to people that they can google
- 7:45Speaker 4: Anty Recreational Fishing Grant scheme if they want to apply
- 7:48Speaker 4: for a.
- 7:48Speaker 3: Grant, and they can contact us if they want more information.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. Good on you, David. Thanks so much
- 7:52Speaker 2: for catching up with me this morning.