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  Speaker 5: Where do we even start? There is ay, there is
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  Speaker 5: a big se just stepping outside the football world. There
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  Speaker 5: is a big fight happening on Saturday night on Netflix.
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  Speaker 5: You might as well just promo that because you got
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  Speaker 5: You got Terence Crawford, born and raised Omaha, Nebraska. You
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  Speaker 5: led the Huskers out against the Colorado Buffalo last year
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  Speaker 5: and memorials He's taken on Canelo two champions one Legacy.
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  Speaker 5: Canelo and Crawford are facing off for the first time
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  Speaker 5: in their Hall of Fame boxing careers. You got Canelo Alvarez,
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  Speaker 5: that holds all the major belts in the super middleweight,
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  Speaker 5: biggest earner per fight around one hundred million per fight,
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  Speaker 5: the most followed Mexican athlete in the game, Versus Terrence Crawford.
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  Speaker 5: I already said it. Born and raised in Omaha, Nebraska,
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  Speaker 5: one of only three male boxers in history to be
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  Speaker 5: undisputed champion in two divisions, forty one wins, no losses,
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  Speaker 5: no draws across four weight divisions. Seventy six of his
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  Speaker 5: percent of his wins are by KO and champion in
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  Speaker 5: three different divisions. Canelo has not only his legacy at stake,
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  Speaker 5: but also the weight of his entire country to come
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  Speaker 5: out on top in Crawford is just looking to round
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  Speaker 5: out an undefeated career and walk away as the greatest
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  Speaker 5: of his era. Canelo greatest of his era. That is
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  Speaker 5: what is on the line. Who are we taking to fight?
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  Speaker 5: Is accessible globally and included as part of your Netflix subscription.
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  Speaker 5: There's no This is not a pay per view fight.
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  Speaker 5: If you have Netflix, you can watch this fight live.
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  Speaker 5: Watch Canelo alvarezvus Terrence Crawford Saturday, September thirteenth at nine
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  Speaker 5: pm Eastern six six pm Pacific Standard time, live on Netflix.
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  Speaker 5: Who we got in this fight? Fellas you know? For me,
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  Speaker 5: this is bias, this is Nebraska. For week, this is
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  Speaker 5: Terrence Crawford.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going Canelo. A lot of you people
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  Speaker 1: don't know this about me, but my family hails from Jalisco, Mexico, Mexican,
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  Speaker 1: So I gotta sit behind my brother from south at
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  Speaker 1: the border. I'm gonna go Canelo in this.
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  Speaker 5: One, Dude, this is this is a big fight. Crawford
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  Speaker 5: comes out on top of here Canelo. The legacy that
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  Speaker 5: this man has is second to none. Obviously, people argue,
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  Speaker 5: you wish him and may Mayweather would have fought in
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  Speaker 5: their primes him. He did have pachia earlier in his career,
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  Speaker 5: but Canelo is an absolute monster. I love that this
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  Speaker 5: fight's happening. I wish it would have happened sooner. But
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  Speaker 5: nonetheless we are getting it and your boys right.
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  Speaker 1: But it bears the question who's the greatest of all time?
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  Speaker 1: And obviously in our lanes that we sit in is football,
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  Speaker 1: So why not have a quick conversation, which we kind
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  Speaker 1: of did in pre production before. It's like, who is
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  Speaker 1: the goat coach of all time? He can go college,
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  Speaker 1: you can go NFL, you can go a mix of both.
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  Speaker 1: I know, Mitch, we were sitting there. He was beating
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  Speaker 1: on the table Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer.
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  Speaker 5: He's a goat.
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  Speaker 6: He's a goat.
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  Speaker 5: Meyer's the goat.
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  Speaker 1: He won one forty one War Ohio State, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: have and that's my guy.
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  Speaker 7: Believe it or not. I would not go with Urban Meyer.
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  Speaker 7: Would actually go with Joe Paterno.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's not what you're gonna go there.
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  Speaker 5: You would go Joe Paterno.
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  Speaker 7: All time winning his coach, And like ever, I think
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  Speaker 7: when it comes to college football, listen.
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  Speaker 5: I know, go ahead. I was gonna say, sure him. Like,
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  Speaker 5: while this is happening, you gotta bring up Joe Paterno,
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  Speaker 5: Gotta bring up Nick Saban, Vince Lombardi, Andy Red, Bill Belichick,
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  Speaker 5: Tom Osborne, What about Michigan. Who's the most winging Jim Harball,
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  Speaker 5: Bo Sham Beckler, Sham Beckler. Yeah, Lloyd Carr is another
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  Speaker 5: one he can put on. There came in after Bo
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  Speaker 5: Sham Beckler, Woody Hayes, saw ad guy.
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  Speaker 2: Bear Bryant punched the guy punched the player.
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  Speaker 1: That's all right. Sometimes you gotta get little gritty up
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  Speaker 1: in there.
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  Speaker 5: We gotta figure out. We got to figure this answer out.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll say this. I know a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are beating down the door right now saying it's Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 1: It's Bill Belichick's Bill Belichick. I have a problem with
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  Speaker 1: the legacy of Bill Belichick right now. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to come off as a as a hater, but like
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing that's happened in UNC right now, it
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like Bill Belichick.
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  Speaker 5: It's just life outside of Tom Brady exactly Exactly like
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  Speaker 5: you look at Andy Reids.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, what is Bill Belichick without Tom Brady?
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  Speaker 1: Because we know what Tom Brady is without Bill Belichick,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't we we found out that, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: can Bill really want And then you were just about
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  Speaker 1: to bring it up, who is it? Personally? I believe
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  Speaker 1: my goat, Andy Reid into super Bowl with Philadelphia, when's
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  Speaker 1: a couple of Super Bowls with Kansas City, It's like,
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  Speaker 1: how are we? How was he not talked about more
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  Speaker 1: of being the goat when it comes to Super Bowl's,
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  Speaker 1: NFL the whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, people are screaming and forgetting to wipe their ass
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  Speaker 5: because I will. You're such a hater on the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 5: but that is my I think that's my goat too, right,
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  Speaker 5: I'm with you on that one.
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Vince the Bardi, I get it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like he is. The trophy is named after him for
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  Speaker 1: a reason, but like four passes now involved Pop Warner.
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  Speaker 2: Pop Warner, he's on the list number four. There's a
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  Speaker 2: little there's literally a whole age group of football named
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  Speaker 2: after him.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, maybe maybe the best coach you never heard of,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the best coach you were confused about when he
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  Speaker 1: sat on a bus and some guys say what about
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  Speaker 1: Pop Warner and you immediately thought thought middle school?
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  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I'm that guy.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 9: The one thing I'll say about Andy Reid is I
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  Speaker 9: loved when Gridon was on the bus and just talking
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  Speaker 9: about the rivalry they had Andy Reid how much he
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  Speaker 9: was like, I gotta be better than this guy. This
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  Speaker 9: guy's good, and that if John Gruden is sitting there
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  Speaker 9: saying I think Andy Reid's the best one out there,
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  Speaker 9: hands down, that's my answer.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta do like ask Chad Gpt to do side
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  Speaker 5: by side by side comparisons of Nick Saban's resume, Andy
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  Speaker 5: Reid's resume, Vince Lombardi.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough because it's college and NFL.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tough one.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 7: I mean I saw some stats of Nick Saban on
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  Speaker 7: TikTok the other day. Since there have been more people
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  Speaker 7: that walked on the moon than Nick Saban had losses.
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  Speaker 7: I think from twenty fourteen to twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: That is an insane stat great stat. Also, hey, we
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  Speaker 1: can't forget about Jim Harble. If he goes and wins
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  Speaker 1: one with the Chargers, like he might be one of
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  Speaker 1: the greatest ever.
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  Speaker 5: Get look at Andy Reid here, playoff record. Andy Reid
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  Speaker 5: is twenty six and sixteen Sabin Bowl games, nineteen and
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  Speaker 5: twelve regular season overall record. You got two hundred and
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  Speaker 5: fifty eight one forty four and one for Andy Reid,
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  Speaker 5: two ninety seven and seventy one for Nick Saban champion.
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  Speaker 5: Excuse me, championships? You got three Super Bowl, three time
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  Speaker 5: Super Bowl champion Andy Reid, two different teams. Right, No,
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  Speaker 5: I think he won.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the Eagles he won. Peterson won with
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles.
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  Speaker 5: He made the NFC Championship a couple of times.
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  Speaker 2: He went to like three NFC championships in a row
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  Speaker 2: and then lost.
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  Speaker 1: Does that pull Andy Reid from our list?
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  Speaker 5: Now? He lost seven time national champion Nick Saban conference titles.
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  Speaker 5: You got Andy Reid, who's a six time NFC champion,
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  Speaker 5: six time AFC champion. That's twelve total conference titles and
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  Speaker 5: uh Saban has ten, only ten titles on time, only ten. Man,
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  Speaker 5: I think my argument for saving these are the two
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  Speaker 5: best in my opinion.
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  Speaker 10: My argument for saving is this, When Andy Reid gets players,
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  Speaker 10: they're already developed, coached up NFL professionals. Nick Saban creates
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  Speaker 10: professional football players. So to me, if you're going off
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  Speaker 10: of greatest coach.
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  Speaker 5: He I mean, you still get littered with all the
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  Speaker 5: sure development development.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting all the five So what you want to
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  Speaker 1: go about development? And then we can go back to
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  Speaker 1: Jim Harball. He gets three star guys.
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  Speaker 10: I love Jim Harball's that's a good answer. He has
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  Speaker 10: the highest win percentage right now in the NFL. I
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  Speaker 10: think it's seventy five percent is what it is. Seventy
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  Speaker 10: might be seventy four point nine.
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  Speaker 2: Don't quote me.
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  Speaker 5: Hardball by the Horrorball by the end of his career
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  Speaker 5: absolutely could be. In that conversation, I think.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's got to get one, because.
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  Speaker 5: One he'd be the first one to oh wait, no,
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  Speaker 5: that is why am I? Why am I blowing this
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  Speaker 5: right now?
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  Speaker 8: No?
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  Speaker 5: Jimmy Johnson and Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll. Yeah, super Bowl
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  Speaker 5: National tip.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so I'm talking out of my ass saying
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  Speaker 1: the first one, like Jimmy Johnson was nice.
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  Speaker 5: He ended up just retiring. He just wants to go.
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  Speaker 5: He just wants to be in Florida on his boat
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  Speaker 5: was one of the dip.
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  Speaker 9: What impresses me the most about Harball is what he
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  Speaker 9: did at Stanford, because that's a program that a lot
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  Speaker 9: of people back in the day were like in modern era,
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  Speaker 9: you will never with the expectations they have for their
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  Speaker 9: players academically, the type of players they're bringing in, you
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  Speaker 9: can never bring championship football to Stanford, and he did
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  Speaker 9: just that. He obviously has other accolades, but that's the
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  Speaker 9: most impressive to me. Their entire football program since then
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  Speaker 9: they're kind of down the dunts right now was due
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  Speaker 9: to Harball.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, buddy, you don got to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: academic standard.
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  Speaker 2: To me.
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  Speaker 1: When I was at Chaparral High School, Harball and Stanford
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  Speaker 1: came to my school. We're like, hey, we love what
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  Speaker 1: you do, and they saw my transcript. They laughed, they laughed,
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  Speaker 1: and so there's no way you're getting in. There's no
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  Speaker 1: way you're getting into Stanford. They don't budge when it
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  Speaker 1: comes Michigan's top fifteen public school in the world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they were like, we will figure a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: out for you. They got my ACT score was like
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  Speaker 1: a twenty nine. But like Stanford was like, you're not
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  Speaker 1: getting in with that GPA. Brother, Oh yeah, that's a
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  Speaker 1: strong strong thank you, thank you, thank you. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you know, lollless sleep the GPA.
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  Speaker 5: Strike them with the ACT. It's out of what thirty six?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty six? That's strong.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, That makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I am an anomaly. I am a one, so
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  Speaker 1: it is all good with the G B A. Strike
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  Speaker 1: him with the A C T. Yeah, sleep, kid. Happening
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  Speaker 1: in happiness in life is low expectations. So I think
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my foot in the ground just for
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  Speaker 1: this conversation right Now'm gonna Sandy Reid.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think NFL. NFL is the hardest championship to win.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.
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  Speaker 5: Nick saven oh in sports clump with Nick Saban. The
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  Speaker 5: thing with college though, is like if you have a
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  Speaker 5: dominant team, which Bama had, there's only a few teams
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  Speaker 5: that might be challenging you for that national title. The
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  Speaker 5: NFL like it's it's any it's any given Sunday. Margin
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  Speaker 5: of error in the NFL, like the majority of games
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  Speaker 5: is one possession or less. Everybody's got dogs.
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  Speaker 2: You're not seeing seventy to three games.
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  Speaker 5: In the NFL. That's what you That's why when you
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: think about the.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Dynasty Miami Broncos last year.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: Coming in, you think CT wrong acronym.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: That's that's one a season.
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: But like just this past weekend there were four games
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: that was sixty eight to three or something like that.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you are absolutely right. I just want
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: to put in my little.
• 16:24
  Speaker 10: Love and read obviously, But it goes to the Bill
• 16:26
  Speaker 10: Belichick argument. He did not win a Super Bowl after
• 16:29
  Speaker 10: Brady left. Andy Reid has not won a Super Bowl
• 16:31
  Speaker 10: without Patrick Mahomes. So to me, that's like the thing.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's yeah, I feel you. But he was
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: still a conference champion with the Eagles.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: They're good, they're great.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: Couldn't get it done? Sure, who's your who doesn't break
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: his foot?
• 16:46
  Speaker 9: I think I would have to go with I love
• 16:48
  Speaker 9: Nick Staban, but I think I would have to go
• 16:49
  Speaker 9: with the Andy Reid just because of how long he's
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: been doing it. Across the board in the NFL. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 9: don't think that's ever been matched. And to see him
• 16:57
  Speaker 9: doing it in two different conferences is razy. To see
• 17:02
  Speaker 9: him doing it and some really hard places historically before
• 17:05
  Speaker 9: he got there to win championships. I I don't know.
• 17:10
  Speaker 9: I think he's probably one of the best, if not
• 17:14
  Speaker 9: the best, all time.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: You just think about the dynasties of the Patriots and
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: the Chiefs. It's like, how just rare and incredible it
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: is that we get to witness that like college like
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: Bamo was sitting there dominating the whole time. It's not
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's it's a huge accomplishment for coach
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Saban in the Alabama like organization. But I feel like
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: you you come across more dominant, like somebody who has
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: like just a dominant era in college football than you
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: do the NFL.
• 17:40
  Speaker 10: I'm fine with that one thing though, Love you, Mitch.
• 17:42
  Speaker 10: But we can all agree it's not Joe Paterno, right,
• 17:44
  Speaker 10: we can we.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: Can all agree.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I just going, yeah, he has the most wins of
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: all times. That's what I was going on with.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a lot of things.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: He's got a lot of things in that closet.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Things going on.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Had He's dead now stream recap listen. We already talked
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: about a little bit at the beginning of this intro
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Will conference said it very poetically, but the stream has
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: been very successful from bus with the boy standards. We
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: really appreciate everybody joining in being a part of the chat.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: We will be doing that every single Thursday night football
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: during the NFL season, aside from your Thanksgiving and your
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Christmas boys listening, and we have families, We're not going
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: to be doing it put our families in the position
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Saturday's periodically. I believe the next game we're going to
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: stream is going to be Oregon at Penn State for
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: a wide out game. That's exciting. ESPN. We did our
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: first get up at ESPN last week, and if I
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: was to sit there and tell you we were calm, cool,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: collected the entire time, no would be the answer, because
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: we were shitting ourselves up until I don't know five
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: minutes after it started. I think five minutes it is
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: when I thought to myself, Oh, we're gonna be okay,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be this is gonna be fun time.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: They're allowing us to be us like this is a
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: good deal.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of a lot of pre pro nerves.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of pre pro nerves. Saran would love
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: it if you went back to the thing as well.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: When you're sitting in there with with Greenie on that
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: pre production, he's like, yeah, what do you think about this?
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: I was just thinking, like Dan probably has something.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, dude. When they were the first off,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: ESPN sends a run of show to Will, I get
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: a text. I was on the phone with one of
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the producers. Get done with him, and they're like, all right,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: we'll email you something. I'm like, okay, goes over a
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: bunch of games that I'm like, I really got to
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: read up on a bunch of these games and I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: get to test from Will says.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Body like sixteen hours before kickoff.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Sixteen hours before kickoff, like we do not prepare for
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: a game. I call him and I go, what's up?
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: He goes, did you see what we have to talk about?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I was like no, I just thought you're a producer.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: It seemed like it was all right. He's like, Body,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: double down on the buddy forwards me the email of
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: all the games we're gonna talk about I'm like, oh
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: my god, sixty questions. We might be in hell, we
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: might be in over our boots a little bit. Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And to this moment, I still have not gotten the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: rundown from ESPN. I would not have gotten if it
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: was for Will forwarding it to me.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: So better operation will get we win football, and we
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: ate a lot of things we could done better at.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I'll say this had an absolute blast.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: It was so much fun.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And it was fun because it wasn't like, hey, be
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Daniel Olofsky or be these other other types of personalities.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: They are like, hey, here's an area for you just
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: to be yourselves. And so we got a little football talking,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: but a lot of jokes at of fun times. We'll
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: make a comment about Miles Garrett's take on national television
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: give me the Hammer and the Gray Hammer, and the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Gray said, I'm not taking the hammer in the grades.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I'm actual gonna take Trey Hendrickson instead. As far as
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Morris Sachs go, fun time, it's gonna be a great
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: time all year. Another thing that's gonna be a great
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: time all year is our fantasy football league. We have
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: eight teams of two individuals. I'll just speak for myself
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and myself only come by played your team last week?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Yes you did, and what do we do? Beat the
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: shit out of you guys? But me and Koop Comstock
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: were the only team with the logo where the r
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: y A Shockers here to shock the world, and we
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: started our season.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: I want to know. We're in a barn burner right now.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Well it comes down tonight.
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we me and shout out Derek, we have we
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: have DeAndre Swift.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you guys had.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: We got TJ. Hockinson and DJ Moore.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And we're up by seven.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, from this heroic ending with Josh Allen. Because I'm
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: sitting there, I'm like, all right, we got we got Mitch.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Could we be the highest score in the league this week?
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: And it's like, okay, we're sitting there with Hockinson and
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: DJ Moore, but yeah, right now, Mitch's squad's up because
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen late in the game.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: That was with Xavier Worthy getting hurt on first game.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you see some of those things early and you're
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I know, bro.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Quick shout out to FanDuel, dude.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I had a little parlay put in for that Friday
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: night game in Brazil Chargers Chiefs and Xavier You're worthy.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I think it was over catches or something in part
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: of my parlay. He gets hurt the first series of
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the game, and I'm like, my parlay is fucking dead.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: It turns out, fandle if somebody gets hurt during your game,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: there's some sort of void that takes place. I know
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing the fine Prentice correct as I should. However,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Big Dub still lost to Parlay, but knowing it was
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: still alive after the first.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Series is a good game because he got what like
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: a parlay insurance bet protect It's called protect Protecture.
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: Your player gets hurt in the first quarter and he's
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: like the only leg that doesn't hit, then I believe
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: if like the bet still hits and he's the only
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: one that doesn't, you get your winnings in bonus bets
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: love it. And I think if your player just gets
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: hurt at all, I think you just get whatever you
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: like put down in that back.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So last thing on the fantasy unless anybody has anything
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: else to jump in on. The loser whoever gets the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: worst in the league will have to do a twenty
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: four hour stream with their teammate. That is what will
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: have to happen. My hope is that JP and Clay
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Matthews get last as I'd love to see JP and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Clay Matthews for twenty four hours in the stream. No
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: direspect to the two of it. I just think that
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: dynamic will be hilarious. Second best to me, this is
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: essentially one B Will Compton and Matt Malone. I think
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that that is that's everything and more. That actually might
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: be my new one age to say it out out
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: because Will's reaction when he got Matt Malone tells me
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: everything I need to know about the team dynamic in there.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: The culture of that room is a little tough right now.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Or hey, we're smooth sailing right now. We've had some
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: late night down by seven conversations.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Matt was talking about He was like, Friday night,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you're talking about getting queen uh Quinn Johnson from the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Chargers Friday night off of Waivers and Matt's hammered at
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: a bar trying to keep up with the conversation.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: You gotta talk to you gotta talk to Matt though,
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: because he seems like he came up to me. He's
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: like damn, Like you're your team is beating my team.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: It's not our team, it's.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: We gotta change the name because right now it's like
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Team Malone.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It's like Malone's Magnificent team or something.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just magnificent. Your's is magnificent Mitch.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Or Mitch's magnificent team. Yeah, but Matt yours is all
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: about you too. I'm not saying my team.
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: I'm saying me and like Derek and I team Mitch's magnificent, magnificent.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: The team did whatever the fantasy league did.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: They they make it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: They assigned that. I trust me, I would not have
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: made it Mit his magnificent team.
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: I'll tell you that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: We'll have to look into that, because that's crazy shaded Malonmo.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: You guys have the same exact thing.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: At he's good for comments like that, like that's just
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: that's Matt. You gotta love them. Yeah, you gotta love them.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Matt too.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Have to love him. It's like a son, like you
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: know you're gonna like him. You gotta love him, Yeah,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: no doubt. October ninth, as far as just do the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: little housekeeping stuff. October ninth, we're doing a Titans watch party.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Where's that gonna be at? October October fifth? October October
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: fifth Brooklyn Bowl, the Brooklyn Bowl on the Tennessee Titans.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Oh way one right now, but there's a lot of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: football left ahead of us. Also, Bust with the Boys
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Live show at the Rococo Theater. You can go to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: bwtv dot com get the merch, get the stuff, but
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: you can also get tickets to that live show along
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: with the tailgate that is taking place before the third
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: is the third annual, Third annual Bust and Ball shirt
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: that will comptence hold up right now, Yes, Busting Bull merch,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Busting Ball in the front.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Awesome design on the teams on there. Uh, if you
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: want one, if you just want it full fully frontal,
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: you want to say naked in front of your mirror
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: in rock Kills. Yeah, it's a good piece.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Just kind of tipping right over the shirt because they're
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: a little long.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: Sure have it?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Just just a just a tip of that boy gone, hello,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I'm here. Uh yeah. So nine to nineteen, Will Compton's
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: birthday is the live show. Nine to twenty, we will
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: be doing a tailgate. A lot of people have already
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: RSVP for that. That's very exciting, bust and bull merch
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Will just showed you it's gonna be a hell of
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: a year. If you're wondering, hey, is Taylor worried? Is
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: he nervous about the Bustle Bowl? After Michigan's uh, we'll
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: just call it upsetting defeat against the Oklahoma Sooners. You
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: go back to Monday's episode and watch that. We address
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: everything in that situation.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and again we tapped in with our partners at
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: fan duel. Michigan favored at Nebraska is still minus three
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: and a half. If they were to play at a
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: neutral site, Michigan would be favored by six and a half.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: The over under on that right now as it stands
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: forty five and a half points. Listen, I got a
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: text earlier with the video of the halftime speech of
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: coach Rule against Achron. I'm talking, buddy, get your piss hot.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I'm talking, Buddy, stick with me here, Buddy, listen to me, Buddy,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: look at me, Buddy. They might be onto something.
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: I was gonna say he took some motivation from your
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: hype video.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Maybe yeah, he shot me a personal text talking about
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: it was a banger. Hikes videos are back in memorial
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: they are gonna be spots this year. That's not every
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: home game. There's a lot on the boys just play.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Sure you did an incredible job putting that together, but
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: there will be four five games that I'm doing it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: And the videos are back in I know, and they
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: got you juiced up for Akron. Huh, they thought, oh
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: we need comf He's only doing a handful of these ones.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: His time is, he doesn't have a whole lot of
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: time his hands. Let's make sure that he gets Achron
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: out there. You gotta kick off the home opener, you
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: know what I mean. We're back in Memorial Stadium and like,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: look at the results of the game. I'm not saying
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: it's my hype video, but played a very small, very
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: small part.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Right, but a part nonetheless. Yeah, question is nebrask Cornoss
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: win the national championship?
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Is we'll calm think it a ring, I think without
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: a doubt, ring Like I'm not even gonna sit here
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: and plead for it. I'm thinking I am entitled to
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: a national championship. I am in my brain, I am
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: on the team.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: If you if the Nebraska, if the Nebraska Cornerskers win
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the national championship, you are entitled to a ring. They
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: do not send you a ring. They don't even contact
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: you by a ring. How are you handling that?
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I don't even have to think about it because if
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: we win the Natty number one, I'm gonna be there.
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: But everybody's gonna be like, hey, you coming to the
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: parade or we gotta get you here, we gotta get
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: you there. And it's like, whatever you guys need from me.
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: They would they let you suit out for the Natty.
• 27:54
  Speaker 9: You think they would let you see it out?
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: Just suit up, just wear the pads and stuff, be
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: on the sideline. Yeah, I'm sure if I asked, Yeah, yeah.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: You can literally do whatever.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: He could do whatever he wants.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Best relationship with the Huskers. You guys see the light
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: show in the fourth quarter, Well, I don't know what's
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: funny about that. That ship is incredible.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: They put five one out there.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: They didn't put five to one, but they kind of
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: showed the pick of They kind of showed the pick
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: from the week before against Cincinnati, him going up to
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: get it. They got the black shirt logo, They got
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: a lot of cool shit.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I thot you're about to say they showed the pick
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: from your Georgia game.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say the Holiday Ball too. Oh,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: so we're doing a new thing. I'm bustled with the boys.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it or heard it, I'm gonna
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: tell you now as you're listening with your ears or
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: watching with your what you got.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say you shout you should shout out?
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Are this is our Tier one, this is our guy.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: We got to shout in at Keilob Ingram for the
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: first one.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: So what I was gonna say before is, uh, the teers.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: We're doing tear talk. So during the football weekend, if
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: there's a question, concerned or a comment you'd like to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: make that you want the Boys to address, use hashtag
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: tear talk and comments and your own specific tweet. We
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: will find them with the hashtag and we will address
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: all of your questions, comments, or concerned. This one comes
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: from Caleb Ingram.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Tier one.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Tier one says the Boys are crushing it right now.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: What's next outside of keeping the bottom of the pod rolling?
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: What's the next big goal that's going to really move
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the needle for y'all? Hashtags here talk will.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Can't tell you no idea. Can I tell you?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I think one thing that makes this show successful is
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: we really don't know what we're doing. I think that's
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like the one of the more beauties. We can have
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the meetings, we can do, the brainstorms, we can get
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: on the whiteboard all we want. At the end of
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the day, opportunities come, opportunities go. It depends on what
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: door we decide to open. And to be clear, I
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: like the doors we've opened so far. Yeah, I've enjoyed
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the doors we've been opening.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: No notes, It's more of like you get hit up
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: for opportunities and we're just thinking, like they think we
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: can do that, get up ESPNB and one they think
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: we can be on a part of that. Yeah, like
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: that would be sick.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Let's go there.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: We get to go every Thursday. Yeah, Like Lily, most.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Are the boys just a failure. We're just failures. We
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: just continue to fail forward. That's what we do.
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: Put them to sleep with the GPA.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: And then you come over the top with the ACT
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and then sprinkle in some CT We're on our.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: First professional conversation with the ESPN and where'd you just ask, uh,
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: do we have to wear anything in particular? Yeah, and
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: they're just like whatever.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: One of the head execs from ESPN heard that I
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: was asking about you know, is there a dress code?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: He texted me, no context, assless chaps. So gotta say,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: right now, film pretty good about the partnership with the ESPN.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Right now, I will be wearing True Classic every single
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: week except for next week. If you guys want to
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: see what I'm gonna wear next week, I'm sure we'll
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: come to We'll be wearing something matching. You will see
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: it that Thursday, But this Thursday, the uniform you see
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: in front of you is uniform you're probably gonna get.
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: Okay, for the people, for the boys in the back
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: that our goal is to get to three quarters of
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: a million subscribers.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Saying, so seven and fifty thousands of I'm alamo right now.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: The old from It's All Good, Dave want a little
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: bit choke on you. He cut up the gas line.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: It wasn't working too hot, right there. You your goal
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: for the end of this year, for the end of
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: this year is to get one hundred thousand more subscribers,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and we have a seven hundred and fifty thousand.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I think we need ninety. I'm pretty sure we're almost
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: at six sixty.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, ninety.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: So for Mitch Cars to be happy with Bustin's productivity
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: this year, we need to get ninety thousand subscribers between
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: now September eighth to January first, That's what I'm hearing.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: No, I'm just saying that's not thurther for the year.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: I'm just saying for the next goal, Like we're going
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: to keep.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Moving, getting the getting, the getting the.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Three quarters, and then the goal after that will be
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: a mill a million. What's the goal after that? We
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: made it one point two? Oh, that's it. After that
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you shut it down, you get a million. You get
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the cool goal.
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: Play a million too, Like a million, we get a
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: gold a gold plaque up there, dude.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, it'll be a mass of
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: moment when we get that because it eventually, like it
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: might take ten years, it might take three years, it
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: might take you know, one year. Eventually we will have
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: a million subscribers, and when that day comes, it's gonna
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: be one of the coolest feelings of the entire world.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: We got to figure out a way to get one
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: of those plats for everybody, so well one for you
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: to me at least, But like we gotta just suck,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: but getting that that having that plaque like it would
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: be unbelievable. A milli party, milli party, I think so
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: maybe a stream when we get to nine to ninety,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: we sit in a stream. We don't come out until
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: we're at a million. It's thank you full of them.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: It's some social network.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Hot lines, hot lines hot lines right absolutely.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Right where I get like, I'm curious too, like what
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: the audience thinks because we have a lot of content
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: that comes out, like on our social channels or on
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: our YouTube. Like part of me is like, do we
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: separate and put the locker room on its own channel
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: just because we have so much We have so much
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: content that comes out, It's like I don't know if
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: some stuff gets lost in the sauce.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: And if you're on the home page of YouTube, you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: have to scroll quite a ways to get to the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: locker room. Like there's a lot of extra bells.
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: And what I always do is I just hit videos
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: and then you just go to the recent videos. But
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: we got you know, we got a long form clips
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: that come out. Yeah, there's a playlist for the lock
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: for the locker rooms. But it's like with our football
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: reaction show, it's like that'll be on Monday, then busting
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: on Tuesday. Wednesday is the locker Room, college Football, Thursday
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: is NFL's locker Room. Friday is inside the Bus, Fridays
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Inside the Bus, and Dads that's on it, that's on
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: its own channel. Now I'm talking more about the YouTube.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: With all this stuff that kind of comes out on there,
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I just get curious, like what it does with the algorithms,
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: if the audience sees it, if they're like, oh, damn,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that they were doing this. I didn't
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: know if they were doing that. We do vlogs. You
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: got bus scenes, you got under the hood, we got
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: our quick vlogs, Like we just dropped the vlog of
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: just our day at ESPN. It's like we have all
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: that stuff coming out, content that you take from the episodes.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: We got a lot of shit that comes out having fun.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: We are. We're having a great day.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: That is one thing we're doing boys, is we're having
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: a good fucking time. And it's only week two. It's
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: it can only go up from here or the way down.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: Who knows.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Actually there's a lot of ways you could go. But
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I'm having fun right now and that's that's what's cool.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: Speaking about having fun. I'm gonna just take a little
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: selfish time real quick. Oh, it has been three years
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: since you guys hired me, so I wanted to say
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: thanks today.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mitch, that's that selfish at all. That's fucking awesome.
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been I got like a like pictures and
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: stuff like, so three years ago today, Will is when
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: you called me and you texted me.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: This is Will Compton for picture for reference. But yeah,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: oh with the LinkedIn thing.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: But yeah, So it's been three years, the best three
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: years of my life. Thank you guys for letting me
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: be a part of this and bringing me on. I
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: can't thank you guys.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: All Right, we're Mitch dude.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: I have a question, Mitch, if you can take the podium,
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: we're where would you rank this for best decisions of
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: your life?
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Coming to be busting? Yeah, busting probably number one. What's
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: number two? Probably moving to Charlotte.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Was number three?
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Is that the answer?
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: Probably going to my buddy's apartment that one day so
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: I could meet my girlfriend in the elevator.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: What's number four?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Thoughhanna five? Here's what I'm trying to get at the
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: yearly caroling making the decision to keep that dream alive
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: every single year.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: Oh it's your boys, man, your boys.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's happening every year.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Hey, listen, it's a choice every year.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: What excites me is you have so much life to live, Like,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: you haven't gotten married, you don't have kids, Like these
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: moments that I'll just you.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Know eventually, like your decision or you're getting busted with
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the boys, job will be four or five. Buddy, getting
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: married is going to be one if you pick the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: right person. Having your first kid, but you have your
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: first kid, it's a fucking.
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: It's not like greatest things in your like greatest days
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: of your life, but like best decision definitely, Like it'd
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: probably be moving to Charlotte to get the NASCAR, to
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: then have that on my resume to then get this job.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Like that's a great decision on my part.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: There is a tear talk here that would be great
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: since we're talking about Mitch and his girlfriend. Uh. This
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: comes from Chris C. Kriegs eighty eight tear talk Boys
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: helped settle debate. I had it with friends last night
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: on a first date. If your date rips a fart
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: at any point is it over then? Question mark.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: It's all about the context in which the fart is
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: brought out. If you're having a good time, you're laughing
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: maybe a lot. She goes into a big laugh, has
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: a two come out. I think that adds. It's like, oh,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: this one's all right by me. I kind of I
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: kind of mess with that.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: If she's being a bit of a bee, being a
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: bit of a B word, and then she like sneezes
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: in the then we're done. All right, you can't control
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: yourself and your bna B we got get out of here.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Those are my first initial thoughts. Not doing a lot
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: into it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think i'd ever I would never like
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: be like, oh, this is over now. However, if somebody
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: ripped the fart on the first day, like I'd be
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: a little oh is that what we're doing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: oh ship, we're already there. Yeah people, yeah, people exactly. Yes, listen,
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: double standard, double standard.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Right man's world, you're not doing well, still lives in
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: You're not doing that on your first day with the
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: girl though. You're not gonna no, no, I'm not.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: I didn't get comfortable ripping a fart until really I
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: was like married with Charrow. But oh my boys, it's like,
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: you know, everybody's got the wodletting far in front of
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: you type of thing.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Fair. Fair. I think it's all about context when it
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: comes to the two.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: To me, I never want to believe the girls poop.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Still don't, Yeah, still don't.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: And with that we're well.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: There's a couple more tear talks here. We got one
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: from Aaron Orana. It's Aaron underscore of Iran. He says.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: They say, got sure. What are your top five no
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: negotiable health habits or bio hacks that the lay person
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: should implement into their daily lives hashtag tier talk.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: Off the top of my head, you gotta find a
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: coffee shop that have that have great ice lattes. M
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: you gotta have at least one evening and night to
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: where you're gooning and playing video games with the boys.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: What else? Taylor fell out the rest?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I think if you need to stay hydrated, liquid ivy
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: liquid IV. I think if you need to, don't need to,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: but maybe it would help if you're having a little
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: maybe a writer's block or creativity block. Get high, have
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: a couple hoots. Yeah, just a little bang, just a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: touch band up right. I don't know I'm feeling. I'm
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: in a bit of a fog right now. Go ahead
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and sit with yourself for a little bit. Change a
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: couple channels, get after it. Sit down there. The weather
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: they're starting to break right now, it's beautiful. We have
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: pit packages being delivered. Those are I think those are
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: for the soul.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, make sure you get a hotel room at least
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: once a month to just have time with yourself and
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: tuget out a little bit.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, nothing better than a hotel beating. You're nothing
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: better the hotel beat. But as far as like the
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: bio hacking, things that like are actually gonna help you
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: can't beat sleep, can't can't beat water. And then if
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: you get a chance every morning, get out, put your
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: feet on the ground, Put your feet the ground, get
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: yourself a little grounding, some direct sunlight. I think those
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: three things are gonna it's gonna charge up your day.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Having a morning routine sets the tone for the entire day. Hell,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: sometimes the week.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Strength training, Yeah, moveing some weight, backstretches, backstretches. Yeah, for myself,
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: that's a that's a non negotiable right now. But yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: what does it get some sunlight? I'll tell you what
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: a little fun fact about I've already said, you get
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: a hotel room once a month just to get a
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: time insurance. Back there, going tell them to tugget. We
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: knocked that one out. Fun fact about sleep is your
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: your stages of sleep. To go through an entire cycle,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: it takes ninety minutes, so one cycle, let me get
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: this right here, times five a night. What's that number?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: One cycle times five a night, that's ninety times five. Yep,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: that's forty five so before and fifty minutes.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so seven and a half hours of sleep. You
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: can get seven and a half hours of sleep seven
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: days a week. That's a winner, right there. You got it?
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: You think of it. I was reading this book. I
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: read it when I was on the Titans. It's called
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: the book is called sleep. But instead of like everybody
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: gets very uh, their anxiety will pick up if they
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: don't hit whatever their expectations are in like a one
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: day cycle, zooming out and making it more like a
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: week cycle. So in cycles of sleep, like I said,
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: at one cycles of full ninety minutes, you think of
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: it in terms of I need to hit thirty five
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: cycles a week with sleep. So that way there might
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: be a night to where you have only six hours.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: There might need to be another day where you sleep
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: in you get nine hours, but thirty five cycles of
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: sleep in a week if we're just going off asleep,
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: because sleep is the big one. Sleep is the big dog,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: big sleep. Hydration. What is it with our boy Breca?
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: Some hydration, some sunlight, step on the grass, superhuman protocol,
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: laugh a little bit, laugh, laugh, have a joker to decide,
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: today's gonna be a great day.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Right, look in the mirror at night and say, I
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: cannot wait to see what's gonna happen to me tomorrow.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: What's that?
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: No bad days, No bad days, no bad days.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: That's eight right there, That's eight. That's it. You're welcome
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: gratitude at night time, when you're saying, hey, you're the man.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: You're gonna knock this out of the park tomorrow, Say
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: a couple of things you're grateful for.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Actually, this is a true story.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Last night was a full moon, very deep on. When
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you walk outside, it almost like there's lights on. During
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: full moon's a lot of energy shifts happened. My wife
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: and I took out three pieces of paper. What are
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: you giving up? What are you taking in? And what
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: are you grateful for? You road those things down and
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: we burned them and threw them in the fireplace. Reset
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the energy. None of your fucking business.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: I'm just kidding.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: And none of your business. I'm not giving up nothing down.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: What are you gonna do? Therapy? You give up none
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: of your business? Yeah, so it's about evingt shut the.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Uh. Matthew Santino.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: At Salty Loads, thank you had Salty Loads ours a.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Sneaky elite game day food hashtag teart. I don't think
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: there's anything sneaky about And piadas are think about it
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: as a Mexican cal zone.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: But they're mini right, little mini boys.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: You have a little they it's a little piece of dough.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: It's wrapped over. You get your meat, cheese, you spent
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: your your vegetables, those types of things in there. It's
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: a Mexican cal zone.
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Mini sure. I like him.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Think of a hot pocket, but way better. That's Annada.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love him. At the Farmer's Market, they got
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: that little inn stand. Yeah, with a bunch of variety
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: of I like him. I likens. Are they sneaky good food? Sure?
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: I think I think that's a nice surprise if somebody,
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: what are those? You get a Bonta, Missouri boy walker? Hey,
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: what are those?
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: It's like a Mexican cal zone? Are they minis?
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: They're in their regular size?
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: The colon are like this, that looks smaller, so mini
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: co zones? Yeah?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, think about where are you from? BoNT Missouri?
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Checks out? Good to meet your Taylor. Yeah, dude, sucking
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: salty loads.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: It's so funny.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: He got me too.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: I read it like an idiot shod We kick off
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: the interview, Kick off the interview, get in and Dominic
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: and Sue.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hell of a time. Boys. One
• 43:57
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• 43:58
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• 44:02
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  Speaker 5: we're like brothers. Yeah, some would say that we are
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  Speaker 5: like brother.
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  Speaker 1: He's just a less tan brother, Yeah, a less brother.
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  Speaker 5: Fourth in the Heisman voted two thousand and nine eight
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  Speaker 5: P Player of the Year Award, twenty nine Big Twelve
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  Speaker 5: Defensive Player of the Year, Bronco Negirsky Award, Chuck Benark Award,
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: Consensus Al American John Allen Trophy, Vince Lombardi Award, NFL
• 48:41
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  Speaker 8: Appreciate that.
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  Speaker 5: At you on the bus.
• 48:52
  Speaker 8: Finally, it's really only Taylor got me on the bus.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I had to have. I've been working on you for
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: years and has been a bit of a deal. And
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you guys tweeted back and forth a little bit, right,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: That's how.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: We've tweeted, We've texted, We've probably been on a call together.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: And he's just he's the it's the politest way as
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: a businessman that I know him to be. When he
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: talks about his time, I can't I won't be able
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: to make it out. It's just the nicest way of
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: saying no. And I just think to myself, persevered, you're resilient.
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: We'll run, you know, I said, we gotta find the
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: right time, gotta be strategic, find the right place, right location.
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: And you got me to your hometown.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: Man, Yes, I am fired up. Where should we Let's
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: start from the beginning.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: Ten pounds coming out in the hospital.
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah, pretty close. Yeah, mom was I think I was
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: like ten six or something like that.
• 49:50
  Speaker 11: So I was in a small belief.
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: So it was, I mean, a blessing in disguise in
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: a lot of ways to be born big. But I
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to cut weight now being retired, so I'm
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: down probably like almost thirty pounds.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: What are you? What are you sitting at right now?
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: Two ninety five so you play in that three twenty
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: range towards the end of my career, yeah, just have
• 50:12
  Speaker 8: a little other extra girth. But I think in my
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: prime prime I was between. It just depends like because
• 50:17
  Speaker 8: some years I was two ninety five, I really didn't
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: like it dealing with double teams with you like you
• 50:22
  Speaker 8: guys catch that hip and I was like, nah, I
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: can't do that. So I probably say my sweet spot
• 50:26
  Speaker 8: when I was playing three h five three ten uh.
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: And then a little later on, especially when I was
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: in LA I was a little heavier at three fifteen.
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: And then shit, you guys know you get late in
• 50:37
  Speaker 8: the season, you start gaining weight. Yeah, that's how it got.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Holiday season. As soon as Thanksgiving rolls around, you can
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: kind of say goodbye to the diet and the routine.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: It's so hard to keep up. Yeah, what kind of
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: things are you doing that maybe someone's listening to right now,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: be like, I need to lose weight. What is domakan
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Su doing to lose weight?
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: Man, As the older you get, the harder and harder
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: it gets to lose weight. So for me, it's all
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: about nutrition. I mean, my nutrition is actually down the
• 51:00
  Speaker 8: road here in Tennessee. So I talked to him pretty
• 51:02
  Speaker 8: much every single day just about what I'm eating when
• 51:05
  Speaker 8: I'm focusing on huge on walks. I mean, I walked
• 51:09
  Speaker 8: all around Nashville this morning. I loved every bit of it,
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: got about almost four or five miles in and then
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: still in the weight room. Man, still important to get
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: them weights lifting. I should have came over here. I
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: saw your guys a new set, so I didn't get
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: no invite, so I would have listed. You may not
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: have you may not have had enough weights, but I
• 51:29
  Speaker 8: would have. I would have managed.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: How was how's retired life?
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: I mean it's good. I get more time with the family,
• 51:37
  Speaker 8: my boys. And that's really the last reason the last
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: two years I didn't go back because I had opportunities
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: to go back for a couple of teams one of
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: them was in the Super Bowl two years ago that
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: we were super close on. I mean, one of my
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: favorite D line coaches was there, wanted me to come
• 51:53
  Speaker 8: back and play really good GM that I enjoyed and
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: had talked to him over the decades to be able
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: to hopefully go play for the team, but didn't work out.
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: And then last year had a couple options but just
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: didn't just wasn't right.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: So yeah, what would make what would have made the
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: situation right?
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: I mean, always the money, I'm always about understanding what
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: it is, but money's not everything. I think that really
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: was being able to be with the situation. I've always
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: wished to have two rings, just so my boys don't
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: have to share. I got twin boys that are four,
• 52:28
  Speaker 8: so that was the ultimate goal, and that's one of
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: the reason why I went back to Philly, Like I
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: didn't get paid crazy money to go play in Philly
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: my last year, but we got to a super Bowl
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: and I saw that trajectory and I got to be
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: a part of that success. Like I was just with
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: Fletched the other day and like building relationship with him.
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: You always admire guys from AFAR, but like building a
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: relationship within six months of each other and now it's
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: a long lasting relationship. So ultimately, it was about winning
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: a championship. That's what I wanted to do. Money was cool,
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: but I was one of the highest paid players ever,
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: So I've reached that that thrown plenty of times.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you on having the two rings. I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: had two girls, I didn't have any boys, so I
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: decided I want a super Bowl. I dip on that, dude,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you want Like when I'm at Michigan, I'm watching you
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: in Detroit, and this is when you're a menace. I
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: mean that as the biggest compliment ever, Like you that,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: like I'm watching you, I'm watching college film on guys
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play against, and then I'll see a couple
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: of clips of you just tormenting off it's a.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: Line and light.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Well they't got them, not there yet, right, I'll get
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: to focus. But then as I started to learn about you,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I've played against you a few times, always a handful,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Will start talking about you from a business standpoint, how
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: like you you're a guy that is always focused on
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: the what's next?
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: When did you.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Realize that, like football is not gonna last forever? Because
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: as Will's reading off all the things and telling the
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: stories about you being in Nebraska, you could be just
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: any guy that just sits there and be like, I'm
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: gonna play football and I'm going to make one hundred
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: plus million dollars and then dip you wanted to take
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: a further step. What was the thing for you that
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: changed that?
• 53:56
  Speaker 8: First and foremost, I'm super ambitious, Uh, and I've got
• 53:59
  Speaker 8: mentor and really one of my main mentors. I was
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: just with I'm gonna drop a little gym. But like
• 54:08
  Speaker 8: I was up in the Hampton's this past weekend and
• 54:13
  Speaker 8: just sitting with those guys, like they have this massive
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: venture fund, they just raised five hundred million. I'm going
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: to get a potential opportunity to get into some special
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: deals in the AI space with them. That is like
• 54:26
  Speaker 8: super oversubscribed and just having that access in those different things,
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: it's like they're always pressing on me and challenging me
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: to like level up, continue to level up. Don't put
• 54:35
  Speaker 8: yourself in this box just because you're an athlete and
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: because you had a successful career. Don't let that be
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: your end all be all. And it's always strived upon
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: that And also looking at it from a perspective of
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: my mom's a teacher, my dad was an engineer, Like
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: I went to school for engineering, Like I want to
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: be more than an athlete. And that's a common saying,
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: but there's actually a lot of truth behind it, and
• 54:54
  Speaker 8: I knew early on in my career and from having
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: obviously a mother was a teacher, dad's engineer. That all ultimately,
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: like I never wanted to be defined and put it
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: be put in that box. So how do I strive
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: and continue to be more successful off the field that
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: I was on the field. And those are the things
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: that I focused on, and the determination that that dialing
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: in was just kind of my thing that I enjoyed.
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: And then like you guys saw, I lit up when
• 55:16
  Speaker 8: I'm looking at your guys' facility and I asked, well,
• 55:19
  Speaker 8: please tell me you own this, and he's like, bro,
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: we re rent this. I'm like, what, absolutely not. You
• 55:25
  Speaker 8: guys got a machine over here. Let's go, Like, I'm
• 55:28
  Speaker 8: going to be your developer. You're gonna least, you're gonna
• 55:31
  Speaker 8: least from me. I'm gonna throw you some some some ownership.
• 55:34
  Speaker 8: So we're tied at the hip and let's go.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: So you did pull out your phone that sideways and
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: you're showing this all the building. Gods, I can get
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: this done in six months, no problem. Really, you really
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: put it out there.
• 55:44
  Speaker 8: I just got to figure out the how the zoning
• 55:46
  Speaker 8: codes work down here in Tennessee. Other than that, but
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: I mean, let's go.
• 55:49
  Speaker 11: I love it.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Do you how do you find yourself? Obviously you you've
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: gained access through successes in football.
• 55:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah for sure.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: How did you when you meet these people the first time? Yep,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: make a lasting impression to where they want to keep
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: coming back to you. Because I think that's what athletes
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: don't realize. Like playing in the NFL, you're gonna have
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet a lot of people, whether they're
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: fans of the teams you play for, or they're just
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: around and you just you know, people with money usually
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: around people with money, they like they don't realize the
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: type of opportunity that they actually have when they have
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: an other shield on their chest.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: I think just to go a step further too, if
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: there is any preparation that you did individually that was
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: involved before just walking into these rooms.
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah. So the crazy thing is it's the simple things
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: that go the farthest. Just like you meet somebody in
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: like old school days that give you a card, all
• 56:38
  Speaker 8: you do is follow up and send them an email
• 56:40
  Speaker 8: like or send them a text, if you exchange numbers
• 56:43
  Speaker 8: or whatever. It is that simple stuff trigger something into
• 56:46
  Speaker 8: the brand. Oh this person serious, I'm going to take
• 56:48
  Speaker 8: a liking to them. They actually want to learn. And
• 56:50
  Speaker 8: if you really understand it, people love to tell you
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: about their success. They love to they'll show you the map.
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: I just showed you a map of how to go
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: to be successful. Ow you own your own building, Like
• 56:59
  Speaker 8: it's fun, it's interesting, and that's their craft and they
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: like sharing those different things. So now you have the
• 57:04
  Speaker 8: opportunity because hey, you're a big star, whether you're in college,
• 57:08
  Speaker 8: your pro or whatever it may be. Take that advantage.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: But then when you walk through that door. Make sure
• 57:14
  Speaker 8: you start to educate yourself of how to talk to
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: talk and walk the walk at the end of the day,
• 57:19
  Speaker 8: and people will take their time to teach you how
• 57:21
  Speaker 8: to do that. If you don't know, if you just
• 57:23
  Speaker 8: ask for help. My mom always told me there's no
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: dumb question, just ask.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I've always admired how you balance both business and football,
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: and a topic that's always kind of talked about you.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: You listen to like uber successful people and they talk
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: about don't have a plan B because it'll take focus
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: away from Plan A. Did you ever struggle with that
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: balance while you're trying to do both or did you
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: just in your mind it's like, I understand that I
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: know how to commit to Plan A, but also I
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: know that this isn't gonna last.
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: Rep It's a great question, and I just talked about
• 57:56
  Speaker 8: this the other day on my podcast from the standpoint
• 57:58
  Speaker 8: of Caleb Williams the Chicago Bears. I think, for me personally,
• 58:02
  Speaker 8: if you have a capacity and you have to know
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: this as yourself as a human being, if you have
• 58:06
  Speaker 8: the capacity to be able to do more than one thing,
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: but also there's tears to it. So football was number
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: one for the last thirteen fifteen years or whatever it was.
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: But I created a structure of like I'm taking care
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: of my stuff top of the morning, and then I
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: can start to learn and be curious other elsewhere. But
• 58:22
  Speaker 8: also people don't realize that when I'm I'm that much
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: more sharper in football, when I have the opportunity to
• 58:27
  Speaker 8: go and immerse myself in other areas because I've buttoned
• 58:31
  Speaker 8: it up, I've zeroed in what I need to do
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: for football, how to study, do all those different things.
• 58:36
  Speaker 8: I can go away and come back even sharper. So
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: that works. That worked for me. Not everybody has a
• 58:40
  Speaker 8: capacity to do that. A lot of guys can only
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: focus on Ian. We know in the locker room, there's
• 58:45
  Speaker 8: some guys that are on the struggle bus, and they
• 58:47
  Speaker 8: really really got to focus in like they need all
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: seven days, even like the last five minutes before you
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: get into that meeting or get into that game. They
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: still need to keep studying. Like I've had some guys like,
• 58:59
  Speaker 8: hey man, what are we sup to doing this?
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: Play?
• 59:01
  Speaker 8: Buddy man, we went over this fifty times. Yeah, in
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: the meeting room, I still got you just go straight.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and especial if you're playing defense, it's so reactive.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: You guys got it easy, man, It's it's really just athletics.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: We react, but I have to react to you're reacting.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: You have to look at the safeties and see with
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: the linebackers. Then he says Able or Baker, I'm okay,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: he's blitzing. Is this guy going to go inside? What's happening?
• 59:31
  Speaker 11: Now?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: It's a game you guys wouldn't understand. You might understand
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: you played offensive line in the under or the uh
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: All American Army game. Before that, you talked about capacity.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: I want to break that down a little bit more
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: because obviously someone being able to understand themselves and understand
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: what they're capable of doing and not capable of doing.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: It's easier said than done. And we've seen in the
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: locker room. We see guys all the time that think
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: they have all the capability in the world. But with
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: the film shows this is way different. So somebody who
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: it doesn't have the capacity to have the structure that
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, what are some steps that they can
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: take to be successful and put themselves in a ring
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: where they're now making that passive income. There's the generic
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: stuff of having, you know, financial advisor and stuff like that.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: But what are little tips?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 8: I would say honestly, and it may not Capacity may
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: be the wrong word. I think the right word is
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: understanding how they learn. And this is where the psychology
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: side of things comes in. And as a head coach,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 8: I learned this from Jim Calwell being a head coach
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: and seeing him operate within three to six months to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 8: be able to take our team to where we got
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 8: to in twenty fourteen. Was he had the psychology background
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: of breaking down every single guy and learning how understand
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: how they learn. So if you understand how you learn
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: and how you can structure yourself, that'll allow your capacity
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: to start to get wider and wider and wider, because
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: you know, I have to do these things so I'm
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: in order to be successful in this space, then I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: can start being curious in other spaces. So understanding how
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 8: you learn and how you function, I think is a
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 8: big part of it as well.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 5: What would you your routine be like on a Wednesday
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: compared to a Friday while you were playing well?
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  Speaker 8: Early on my career or later on in my life.
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  Speaker 5: I would say, when you're starting to figure out your
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: capacity and how you learn and everything else, like when
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: you are operating or when I am talking to Lavontine,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, what's how Sue out in Tampa And
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: he's like, man, he'll be on he'll be on a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: business call in between, like after practice, before meetings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: So that was like mid mid of my middle of
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 8: my career, towards towards the end. What I would say
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: for me, if I understand your question correctly, is like,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 8: at that time, I had a routine. So I'm in
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 8: the facility six am getting my workout. In most guys
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 8: are working out either like right before practice or right
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 8: after practice, or they do half their lift before practice
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 8: and then do the legs after practice. I'm done with
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 8: my workout. I got that out of the way. I
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: tuned in for an hour and a half, two hours
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 8: or whatever it was, go to practice, go through meetings.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: I watched my film like coaches are going to watch film,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: like I've already watched film. That's over and done with.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 8: So when coach knows like and coach Casey, he loves
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 8: me but hates me because he's He'll be in meetings
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 8: and be like, hey, man, I got to ask you
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 8: a question. And I was like, Coach, I got you,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: but you know, man, I'm over your writing emails.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: Leave me the fuck home.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: We are established, you're already, You've done your part of
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: I'm prepped. I've watched film. I know what Coach is
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: gonna go over. But when we're in the position meeting itself,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: you got to get a few other things done because
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: the main focus isn't like I've handled all my business.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah exactly. And we had that understanding with each other
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: early on to where it's like he knows I'm gonna
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 8: be on point. But there's times I knew he's gonna
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 8: he would say my name, like hey, pay attention real quick,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 8: give me five minutes of your time, and then we're
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 8: gonna talk about this as a group. So everybody realizes
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 8: you're still part of the meeting, and then you can
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 8: go back to doing what you.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 11: Need to do.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 8: So you'd be sitting, Oh yeah, Casey's right here, I'm
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 8: right in the back, right corner with him, Vita's up
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 8: in the front, all the other dudes in front, Like,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 8: I got my laptop turned like I'm gonna go bus position.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: Now it sounds like it was different earlier in your career.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: What was there a hard conversation or a moment to
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: where you're like, hey, I need to button my shit
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: up or I need to I'm not taking a serious
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: as I feel like I want to be taking this serious.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: So the person that kind of put me on my
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 8: toes with that was Kyle Vannerbosch. So my rookie year
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 8: and probably my second year being with Kyle in the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 8: same D line room, he really taught me how to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: take notes and be detail oriented, and so like where
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 8: I'm super locked in is like those first two hours
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: of meetings before we go to practice, when we're doing
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 8: install and we're doing those different things. But I started cheating.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 8: I was like, coach, give me the install the night
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 8: before so I can go through everything, and I'll come
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 8: in early and ask you a couple of questions of
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 8: what I didn't understand or I needed more clarification, and
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: then I speed up the process. So now I'm understanding
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 8: how I learn, how I figure out things faster so
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 8: I can get it out of the way and I
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 8: can be prepared. So I just go out to practice.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 8: Plus bro, we do two three different walkthroughs, like if
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: you don't understand we're about to install walk through? What
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 8: we just install? Then practice? We just went through three.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Times to a walk through before that practice, Yeah, we just.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 8: Did it three times. If you can't pick it up
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: in that timeframe, we've got bigger problems.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Which I feel like rears its head a lot of
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: times in the locker roos. Yes, there are a lot
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: of guys that are like that.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: And when you're somebody who's on your ship, you're just like,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: how in the fuck is this so hard? What do
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: you mean? I'm saying, like, when you when you haven't
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: figured out and dialed in, and if so and so
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: doesn't have it figured out by the second or third
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: walk through, and you're just like, how do you not
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: fucking get what we're doing the most simplistic things.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Now, your rookie year is a whole different ball game,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: just trying to figure out everything, and everything seems like
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: so big once again, massive office of playbook.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: So where do you start to realize that you were
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: a tackle? Bro?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah you have you.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: Have a second.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 11: Coming here, so yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: Center like that would be it would make sense, but
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: I knew, yeah, the double down go to the next levee.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: Double down is not a term you know, block down,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: double team go to the is not a term you
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: don't worry about away from you, but you blocked down Taylor.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 8: He's got it easy though, because he's coming behind me. Yeah,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 8: where's the ball? He's got three cats. Figure it out.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: I'll go get the time I want. Took jump on
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: a half a second, Hey man, get off of my
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 8: sat Yeah.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Talk to me about playing ball with a young, will
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: confident Nebraska.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's a little bit of a blur. He
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 8: didn't get a lot of playing time I was there,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 8: but he definitely came. I will say hard worker, definitely
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: was out there special teams, riling up the troops, running
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 8: down the field full speed. But when he was playing,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 8: I'll give him credit. He was loud and and he
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 8: was made himself known, which I respect. And that's what
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 8: I asked from every single linebacker I played with. You
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 8: have to be dominant. Even if you make the wrong call. Well,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 8: guess what, it doesn't matter what defense we're in. Just
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 8: call the defense. Let's go, and we're just gonna wreck
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 8: have it because I don't care what calls y'all got
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: on offense. If I'm running up through the middle of it,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 8: you can't do anything.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So if you're running through the middle of a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: demonstrative was always like a learning curve confidence if you
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: if you remember too, like there was there was always
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: a dust up with a real deal Phil Dill.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's in the doghouse for a little bit. There
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: was like a weird I do remember that there is
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: going on. So as a freshman too, like there's a
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: sense of like you don't you just don't have that
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: confidence man, like you.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 8: In right, because Phil's ahead of me.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 11: We came in.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 8: This is like he's part of the call to Nebraska
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 8: that came in in the last ten years. We all
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: come together. Then there's this young group that comes behind us.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 8: Willean Fisher, Yeah, Sean Fisher, all these young guys that
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: are coming on and they actually can play. So they're
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: like chipping at the biting at the heels, like we're
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 8: about to get on this field. Especially it's not just
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 8: special teams. So also seeing that, like there's also that
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 8: competition versus it saying no, this can be additive. We
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: can come in special packages and do these different things
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 8: because well could run, so he could do different ship
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 8: and whatnot.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: Back in the day.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, back in the day podcast and said laughing, it's like, yeah,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: you can't forget that.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but you're right though. You're right though. And
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: then you have that just that the competitive dynamic and
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: again just being young, it was and you were part
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: of We were part of such a you guys were
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: dominated as hell and d You're looking around and you
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: got you got Sue, you got Stein Cooler, Barry Turner, Craig,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: you got all these hosses. Like in the huddle. I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: remember one time too, like I was telling the story
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: not too long ago, but that big twelve championship game,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: like a couple of steps I did get in. Then
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 5: we had them backed up on the goal line. You
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: were obviously trying to get we were trying to get
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 5: a safety. And one time I think I called like
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: Miami or something like that, and Sue like turns back
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: and me. He's like, hey, I'm going the a gap
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: you go to be and I'm just sitting like, okay,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: people don't know.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: Coach Carl was the best. Like so the year before
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 8: my senior year or my last year in Nebraska, Coach
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 8: Carl and I sat down in his office like for
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: like almost two weeks He broke down every single piece
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 8: of the playbook to me, and I told him, all right, coach,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 8: I know where guys fit and how things work. Now
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna start cheating, like crazy cheating. He's like, all right, cool,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 8: you can do that, but I'm gonna dog cuss you
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 8: out in front of everybody if you don't make a play.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: It's like bet that's our that was our inside rule
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: of like, hey man, you can do whatever you want to,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: but if you make a mistake and you don't make
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 8: a play, I'm gonna dog cuss you out in front
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: of everybody. So I would just will take my spot,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 8: I'm taking yours, and I just be able to make plays.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 8: That's how like in the Missouri game, I got the interception.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: I just dropped back. I felt something, so I could
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: just play with my instincts. But I knew I could
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 8: have guys cover up for me, knowing where things were at.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: So was the game where the lights went out at halftime.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: Everybody's got their phones out. All the lights went out
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: in the locker room at halftime. Yeah, and everybody just
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: got their flashlights on their phone. As we're trying to
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: make adjustments and get snacks and everything else. It's a
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: wild game. And Sue did have a one of his
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: how many picks did you have that year?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 8: I think I only had two that year the.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: Colorado game, ye a tech when Bo was losing his
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: mind on you, saying like I get him out, Carl, I.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 11: Need him for sure.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: They definitely went at each other for sure, and I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: definitely put Carl in some bad situations because I was
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: trying to go make plays.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: You you guys were bringing to that Bateswall Championship game
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: versus Texas. That's the game. There was one second left,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: they put one second left back on the phone, put
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: one second man, one second back on.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: What can you break that down for me a little bit?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 5: What happened?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about it a little bit, but I want
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: to hear from that back then.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: By the way, we were nobody knew were on our
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: way out. We're gonna be out like either after that
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: year or the next year, going to the Big ten.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: And we feel like there was some I personally feel
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: like there was some illuminati higher up. We're going down.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: We can't let the hust ship.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but it was it was crazy though, because I
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 8: mean I had the most excitement in that game. Again,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: we had everything we knew about what Texas wanted to do.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 8: Old line was dog dog water, Yeah, straight dog water,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 8: And I knew we could dominate against them. It was
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 8: just a matter of us, can our offense put up
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: some points and defense was like, man, man, we're gonna
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 8: have to score ourselves a couple of times. But going
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: back to that play, in that last second, I am
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: like on my horse as hard and as fast as
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: I can as Colt McCoy is rolling out and I'm
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: trying to make sure that he is obliterated into the stands,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 8: and I think I almost hit him into bow and
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: I know that in the back of my head the
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 8: clock is like super super low. He can't just I
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: can't let him get a clean throw off because he's
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 8: gonna find somebody downfield. And I know they're trying to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 8: get this field gold and whatnot. And I turn around
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: and I hop up and I look at the scoreboard.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 11: It's zero.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: We are champions.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 5: We storm, We're life sprinting on the field.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 8: Everybody's elated, like crazy excitement. Then all of a sudden,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 8: Bo starts spazzing out, like what do you mean there's
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 8: a second left on the clock, all these different things,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 8: and it's like all right, man, calm down. They still
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 8: got to make this joint and it's like fifty yards,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: so like, hey man, we're going to line up and
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: we're trying to run through these guys's faces and block
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 8: this kit. But we could get there, and for whatever reason,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: they felt like they deserved a second on the clock.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: But it was what it was, weird jump me so Waley,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: we're jumping up and down. We win the Big twelve.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: Heartbreak hotel and you were feasting on that offensive line.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: Man, it was Pierre Al He's going off in the
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: locker room after the game.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't Yeah, I can't imagine that.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 12: The other day, What is your relationship relationship like with
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 12: Nebraska now, because I know when we went there before
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 12: all the renovations, it was the Nanaba can sue weight
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 12: room spears.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: How involved are you with the program?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: I would say, I'm not that involved. I just met
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 8: Rule a couple of times. What I did appreciate he
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: called me right when he got the job, which was
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: super nice. We're connected because of some people in Temple
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: and whatnot, and I think he's the right coach for
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: the organization. I'd say this, I'd love to be more involved.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 8: I'm behind the scenes supportive of a family, especially the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: quarterback and dom Ryola Bey and my big brother at
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 8: Nebraska or not at Thebraska in Detroit and him taking
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: care of me there. So obviously want to see the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 8: success of his son and Dylan as well as a
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 8: young one coming after him. So ultimately I think they've
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: got the right structure. It's going to be recruiting, of course,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 8: which and I was absolutely crazy, as we all know now,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 8: so it'll be interesting. Man. I want to be able
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: to have bragging rights. Yeah, So hopefully they can turn
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: around the tide and see what happens. I still got
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 8: the weight room. I took my kids back. I was
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 8: just inducted in the Nebraska Hall of Fame, which was nice.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: That's awesome.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 11: So we'll see.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 8: We'll see how things kind of evolved now that I'm retired.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: But I'm more busy now than I wasn't pay Yeah,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: just see.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: The short time we were talking each other before we
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: got on the bus. You're showing those emails and all
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: that stuff, like you are are motoring what about Nebraska
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: was like this I'm assuming you're a massive recruit, will
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: be a four or five star guy.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 8: I was a four star guy. I was. I wasn't coin.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: So you talk about having to play on both offensive defense.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: It's crazy. I went to a US Army All American
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 8: game and there was the top five defensive tackles there
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 8: and I was a six. And they were like, uh,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: there's not really a lot of room and we have
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 8: some injuries on offense.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 11: Can you go play offense? I don't care.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 8: I'll block these dudes. So I played most of the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: time actually during that game on the offensive line.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: So how'd you like it?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: It was cool. I mean I held my own.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: So do you think you could have could have made
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: it if you played offensive line?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: Oh? No question.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: Really.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: I joked all the time, especially in Tampa.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 8: And there's been some other coaches like coach Stout that's
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 8: up in Philly. Hey man, when I retire, I might
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 8: come come back and play offensive line. I can eat
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 8: everything in the house and chill and just hold on
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 8: to guys.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: Misconception was gonna.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 11: Sit there and hold on to so much, so much.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: Technique involved with the offensive line, and you're talking about
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: nil money.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: I want to know why he went to Nebraska because
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: American you're in that. Who were your top schools that
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: were recruiting you the heaviest and what were you like?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: Your top five?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: Ish my top five. I took five visits, so University
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 8: of Miami, Oregon State, Mississippi State, University of cal and
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: then there was one other. I'm drawing a blank on
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: it right now, but I actually committed Mississippi State. My
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 8: sister went to school there and there was a guy
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 8: named John Blake that was there before he left and
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 8: went to Nebraska Calian. So really, John Blake was the
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 8: one who recruited me and got me to go to
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 8: Nebraska outside of me knowing it's a great program and
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 8: rich history and stuff like that. So that was the
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: reason why I went to Nebraska because of John Blake
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 8: and I could play early and we had a great
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 8: recruiting class. So I wanted to be a part of
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: some special to turn that tie. Because they had sucked
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: for shoot, yeah for a while, almost two decades.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were a live sport for a little bit,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: had a blip. They're coming back now.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I made the first ball games fifteen Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: boys are back. We're coming, We're coming.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: You mentioned in IL earlier. Yeah, you were somebody that
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: was also projected first round draft pick after junior year
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: coming back to Nebraska for your senior year.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: The talk to the team was it was like, you know,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: you said down with coach Bow and everybody else, and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: they talked to you into coming back. But was there
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: any how do I say this nil money involved you
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: coming back your senior.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 11: Year and then just asked a question.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 8: No, there wasn't, but there was a stern conversation with
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 8: coach Bow and coach Bow I don't remember.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 5: I got it.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 8: What was his name, lsud.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Tackle, name of the mic up a little bit, Yeah.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 5: It's.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 8: Lsud Tackle. I'm John a blank.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: Uh was it Dorsey?
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Glen Dorsey. So Glenn Dorsey lsud Tackle that was
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 8: there with coach Bow when they won the championship. He
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: was like, man, you're better than him. And I think
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 8: he was a top five or top ten pick, and
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 8: he was like, if you have the ability to stay
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 8: one more year, I'm willing to bet you you'll be
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: in the top three. So all right, cool. And I
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: was projected I think like eighteen or nineteen and to
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 8: come out in or late first round. Let's just say that.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 8: And so I said, all right, I'll come back. I
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: don't mind. It sucks. It's two thousand and eight. The
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 8: world's on the dumpster fire like nothing, specially. My dad's
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: self employed. My mom's a teacher, so she's cool and whatnot.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 8: But I'd love to come out and obviously be able
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 8: to change my family from that standpoint, but I think
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 8: it was one of the best decisions I've ever made
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 8: from that standpoint. And so for me, one more year
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: and I was pretty much done with school. So going
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 8: into my senior year, I only had one class. I
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 8: had one class in a lap, So it was like
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 8: I was already pro. I just had to just chill
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 8: and do it whatever I wanted from that standpoint and
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 8: play football. So there was no nil money I wish
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 8: there was. Was it?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 5: That hard time coach bo to compare and you're thinking
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: eighteen or nineteen, you know what I mean. It's like
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: eighteen and that's back you were still part of that
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: old CBA. But that's still a shitload of money eighteen
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 5: or nineteen in the first round compared to like, all right,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: I'll come back on another year. You think it's really
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: gonna jump up. Yeah, obviously it works out. But it
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: was as simple as a conversation like that. To compare
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: you to Glenn Dorsey.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was simple.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 8: I mean like waiting one more year and I went
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 8: and got alloyded in London policy. So god forbid anything
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 8: crazy happened. All right, got my loading London London policy.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 8: If I got hurt, and then that was your policy.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 8: I remember it's like twenty five million.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 5: That was three.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: I was a old CBA because you know, your boy
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: actually had the opportunity to leave his junior year as well.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: But my projection showing me my projection was first round
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: and I decided to come back. But I was on
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: the kool aid of I thought we were gonna win
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: a bake Th championship. We're going six and six.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 11: Yeah, we didn't.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: We didn't have the talent. We didn't have the talent
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: to get it done.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: But I really thought in my head, yeah, because I
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: wasn't a big broad thinker I was.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: I was.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: I was very zoomed in and I was like, bro,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: we could win it all off my leadership.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 11: I love the confidence, dude.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: I really thought we were gonna do it man, but yeah, go,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: like there had to be a couple of games like
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, like once you make a decision, or I'm
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: gonna co back, I'm gonna take my name out of
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: like the draft pool. Essentially, the fear of yeah, if
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: you get hurt, you have this Lloyd's in London policy
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: is gonna give you twenty five million dollars. But now
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: it's like, well what about legacy? What about all these things?
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Was ever a fear of doubt going into your senior
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: year now?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: Not really, because I mean I'd already gone through injury
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 8: like two thousand and seven eight or no, two thousand
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: and eight, going into Yeah, going into the two thousand
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 8: and eight season, I tore my a CL and so
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 8: I was like, worst case I get hurt again, Like
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 8: I bounce back, and I had a great eight year
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 8: coming off of ACL. Like Mark Meyer took great care
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 8: of me, Like I got I tore my ACL. March
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 8: tenth of two thousand and eight, I was back for camp,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 8: like he would only let me practice one of days.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 8: It's all right, great, that's even better. I don't have
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 8: to go through two A days. And like I owe
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 8: Mark so much, I still talk to him all the
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 8: time just as just a close friend. But if I
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 8: get hurt again, I got to go through the same
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: process like who cares? Like so I really wasn't scared
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 8: of it from that perspective, And I came off had
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 8: one of my best year in college to then back
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: it up with another great year to top that as
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 8: going into the draft. So for me, the mindset was
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 8: just just go out there and bawl, have fun.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 5: So you tore your ACL in March and we're practicing
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 5: at the end of July, four months.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Like I owe a lot of credit to
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 8: a lot of credit to Mark Meyer. Man. He was
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 8: like one of the best, and I didn't even realize
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 8: like everything that he was teaching me. He was on
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 8: my butt like man, I'm gonna get you really and
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 8: like I remember I think they called Russians like or
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 8: like these things where he would hang my knee off
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 8: the back of the table to get range of motion
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 8: and I would look at him with the most meanest
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 8: look like death stairs, like I want to kill you
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 8: right now because it hurts, but like it got me
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 8: back so fast, and like all his stuff that he
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 8: had done, like is I own a lot.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: For that, and it's just like pre bfr and all those.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 8: Like, yeah, yeah, you're doing it the old school, old
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: school way.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: Damn.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: So that is four months is hissses me off.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: He was removed. I'm still hurting. I'm still not recovering.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: I will say whenever, whenever Taylor tore his The first
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: time was in the middle of the season, right, it
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: was October twenty twenty. October twenty twenty, and we we
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: were training with Dobbs, by the way, was the best man.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: I remember Dobson telling Taylor. He's like, called me, was
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: it November, December, January, like if we go to the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl or something. He's like, I'm just letting you know.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: Sue was able to get back in four months. Yeah,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: that was like Taylor's Taylor's motivator. Yeah, And I think
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: I think month two, I was like, this is not happening.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 8: See, But a lot of people don't realize. It's like,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 8: obviously got to have a good surgeon, which first and foremost,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 8: but then two the rehab, you can't be afraid to
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 8: push yourself. And that's where I think a lot of
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 8: people in that first like month, month and a half,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 8: they're like super scared, like timid and whatnot. Like really
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 8: after you get the green light that the graft is good,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 8: like really really push, like that's how you come back.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: Majority of the time, it's do anything. It's everything pain free.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 8: A little pain everybody, everybody, But even a little bit
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 8: of pain is okay. Like it's just like understanding your
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 8: pain tolerance and what's the difference between again being hurt
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 8: and injured, Like there's a big difference between that, Yeah,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: I have a little pain, like I'm hurt a little
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 8: bit versus being actually injured and whatnot.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the because the process of the patel A
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: ten and becoming an ACL go through the cocoon process
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: is metamorphous process between weeks twelve and eighteen, and that's
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: when your graft is the most vulnerable and you have
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: to be like really cautious in those like that six
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: week period. But then after that you can you can't
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: push a little bit, buddy, I was, I mean, I
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: don't know how you did in four and four months.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: I literally was doing like two rehabs a day, Like
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: one was more like physical, the other one was more
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: like taking care of little TLC and like had it
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: up like literally did not focus on anything else but
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: my acl And I mean that first came back tough, slid, tough, slim.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: But so you get drafted third overall by the Lions,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: third third, second, Wow, I'm so sorry for disrespecting second
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: overall by the Lions. What is your initial thought when
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: you get to the lines? There's the Lions where you
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: look at Now we're in twenty twenty five, like, holy shit,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: what a franchise. Campbell's got those boys going. You're a
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: part of a terrible franchise at this point. And it's like,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a level of excitem because you're the
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: second overall pick. Who's the first?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 8: That quarterback Oklahoma, yep, Sam Braf Sam Bradford, who I
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 8: sacked by the way, hit him one.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: That I was hot.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 8: But the thing is I was told like right, maybe
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 8: like two weeks before the draft, because I took a
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 8: visit to Saint Louis and I just had an eerie
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: feeling like, man, these do things aren't gonna pick me
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 8: number one, and being competitive Detroit a great visit gun
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: to kind of him loved me, uh and really kind
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 8: of had the main decision making power from that standpoint,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 8: as he had, like the old statesman there. And then
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 8: I went to Tampa and Tampa was like, man, we
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 8: love you. We're gonna come get you. We got twelve picks.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 8: We're gonna throw the house at Detroit and come get you.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 11: I'm like perfect.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: They called me right before the draft and they were like,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 8: would you drop And I was like no, but you
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 8: can come and get me, like we talked about, and
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 8: I didn't know they knew that Detroit wasn't going to
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 8: let me get past too. And then they had insight
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 8: because Schwartz and all those guys with Jeff Fisher, they're
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 8: all friends, so they knew they were taking Sam Bradford,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 8: so they knew they were going to be able to
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 8: get me and they didn't have to do anything. So
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 8: lo and behold. I get drafted by Detroit and I
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 8: was actually pissed off. And it was because, like I
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 8: just I was expecting Tampa to come get me, and
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 8: like that's what I was told. I was with the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 8: last conversation I have with my agent. But I was like, man,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 8: you know what, let me be humble and be like
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 8: everything happens for a reason. So it's like this city
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 8: needs this blue collar and grinders, all about work. This
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 8: is my type of people, strong black community, all these
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 8: different things. And so I was like, man, let me
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 8: go in here and try and like change the culture
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 8: and whatnot. And so when I got in there, you
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 8: see they brought in Kyle, they have Dom there, they
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 8: got Matthew Stafford, they got Calvin, they got a group
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 8: of guys and like, let's go, let's try and make
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 8: some Hey. Yeah, my first year was tough.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 5: What was your record your first year?
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 11: Six?
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 8: And it sucked, but I mean I obviously had a
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 8: good individual year, but I wasn't happy with that by
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 8: any means. So then we turn around and have an
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 8: opportunity the next year to come back. I think we're
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 8: eleven and five, which was better, got to the playoffs,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 8: lost in the first round, but started to see and
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 8: I think what they realized, especially from a front office perspective,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 8: we got to get rid of certain guys because they're
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 8: just here collecting checks, which was which was terrible to
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 8: see from that standpoint, But man, it's I just went
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 8: back there and went to the facility for the first
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 8: time in a decade. A little surreal, but I mean,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 8: I love that city. I'm there all the time. I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 8: do a bunch of business, got a bunch of mentors,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 8: Dan Gilbert, Gary Schiffman, Like had dinner with him the
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 8: other day, Like it's I love that city.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 5: Man. What was it like when you left Detroit? Like
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: why were they not able to keep you there and
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: make you the you know, make you the guy for
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: your entire career?
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 8: Man, As I always say, I got kicked out. I
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 8: wanted to stay there, like and I'll say this again
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 8: and I said it before, Like at the end of
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 8: the day, Man, they had an opportunity, They had every
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 8: opportunity to keep me there if they wanted me to
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 8: stay there. I gave them last minute. I remember leaving
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 8: Church right during free agency in fourteen fifteen, and my
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: agent like, you've got a great deal with Miami, Like
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 8: you're gonna be highest paid, like super crazy guaranteed, and yes,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 8: Oakland is paying you are offering you a couple million
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: dollars more. But if you look at taxes and all
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 8: those different things, because I had spreadsheets like all these
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 8: different things of like breaking down like all right, they
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 8: played these tax free cities. They have these ones that
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 8: are that are non tax free. What all the numbers
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 8: would break down to I would be losing money going
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 8: back to Detroit and seeing that thing being in that
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 8: order because they're like their tax reks, like I think
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 8: like four or five percent or whatever from a state perspective.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: So I said, I still love coach Calwell, and I
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 8: feel like I should be in Detroit. Give them the
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 8: to match, he said, he went back and they didn't
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 8: want to match.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Where were they at before? How far off were they?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 8: I'll let you ask them. Okay, get Sheilahan on the
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 8: busting with the boys, and you asked her, do you
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 8: know the number?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 11: I know, yeah, I know the number God, And it
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 11: was nowhere.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 8: It was nowhere near what I was getting.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: Really.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Nowhere near.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: And you at this point when you respected on the way.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 8: Out, oh, no question, without a question, like think of
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 8: it like this. You know, we joke all the time,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 8: but it's all out of love, no love.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: Clip it.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: The lines was like, oh my god, I mean, bro, how.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: Do they not keep you? I mean, you're you're there?
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: Four years?
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 11: Was there? Five years?
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Five years? Five years of true absolute dominance?
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 8: Like even like saying, are we don't really know if
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 8: we like.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nice little Mike adjustment.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 8: All good, We don't even know, like, all right, he's
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: a head case or whatever it is.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 11: Say whatever you.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 8: Want to, we'll franchise you. You gotta do it for
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 8: one more year. I just had my one of my
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 8: best years of my career. Yeah, I had my rookie
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 8: yar had ten sacks regular season, but I had ten
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 8: sacks going to the playoffs, like I had eight, all right,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 8: eight and a half, and then I got another two
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 8: in the playoff game that we should have won against Dallas.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 8: So I had my best year. And you don't even
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 8: consider like franchising me if you're unsure you need one
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 8: more year to figure out, Oh, is he really worth
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 8: us giving him a bag?
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you gotta keep you gotta keep talent
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: like that on your roster. No, you did have a
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: couple of situations when you're in Detroit. Yeah, yeah, I've
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: heard Will talk about asking you this question. I'm gonna
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: do my best to land this plane. There's a situation
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: and where a quarterback fell on the ground.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'll stop you there.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: Absolutely go ahead.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 8: If you recall there's you've had some incidents yourself.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: I've had a couple a couple.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 8: Maybe not all of them you've been caught on. But
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 8: if you remember Andre Branch, yeah, you remember the time
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 8: you wanted to kill you killed me?
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when he was in the back, when I took
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: him to the back of the end zone.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying that is that there's there's been some things.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 8: We all have had mistakes, but they don't define us at.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: The end of the day.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 8: But and going into that situation, and I remember vividly
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 8: leaving the game at halftime and I'm sitting here and
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 8: you can probably find this picture. I'm talking to the
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 8: red and I'm like, my face is adamant. I'm saying,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 8: if you don't deal with this, dude, keep punching me
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 8: in my face, play after play after play. It's a
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 8: legal hands to the face. It's not legal. If you
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 8: don't deal with it, I'm gonna deal with it.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: He didn't deal with it.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 11: He didn't deal with it.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: So when you was mushing the old linment, Okay, So
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 5: then there's another one with the with Aaron Rodgers. Yea
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: with Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that that to me is complete bs, because if
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 8: you go back and watch the play like I'm toussing
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 8: like two or three aliment and I'm getting pushed back
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 8: like I don't I'm not looking. I don't have eyes
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 8: in the back of my head to see what he's
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 8: going on and what he's doing. And I think that's
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 8: why the NFL at the end of the day was like, hey, like,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 8: look like, I'm not looking at where he's at. I
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 8: just got done figuring out fighting two and three of you.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: Damn look at you like you are in full control
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: of your body. Show like the living room or something.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: You might step on one of your kids toys. You
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: feel it, and you like stop and turn around. You
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: felt it, and then when another one it stood there
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 5: and yeah, and that's so real.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: You put your foot on a lego you like get
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: off of as quick as possible. You let that foot
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: sit there for a minute.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: You let that there.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 8: Believe what you want to believe at the end of
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 8: the day, and I'm not going to sit here. I
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 8: got fined for it, rightfully so or not. That's for
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 8: where everybody is a biased opinion or unbiased opinion.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 11: You do it.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 8: But on the day, like those things happen, Like there's
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 8: times where people are really intentional, Like we've seen some
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 8: stuff with some clips with some guys where like they're
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 8: actually like trying to hurt.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: People from the hitting somebody on interception.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly so, but I mean exactly.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: For he was when Andre Branch wanted to kill you.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: So we played a preseason game, maybe seventeen. Yeah, seventeen.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: We're playing a preseason game, and I take like it
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: is what it is. I took Audre Brand for a
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: ride in the back of the en zone. We ends
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: up scoring. My helmet comes off, he gets in my face.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: I started laughing in his face, and then we go
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: off the sideline. To me, it's like football like we
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: had We had a little you know me, yes, yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 8: The other one is smoke and he caught some smoke
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 8: some times.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah I did.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: I was, you know.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I don't know if I ever
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: say anything to you, but I would definitely would always
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: yeah against me when you hear me talking.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 11: I'm sure I spoke a lot.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: I was always talking to So I take Andre Branch
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: to the to the end zone, the back of the
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: end zone after a long drive.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 8: I don't know about that way I represent my dog.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 8: But listen, I got him have some good bat and
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 8: he was.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: At uh he was at Jacksonville before that, right, Yeah,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: so I played him a bunch, so I kind of
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: knew him. He knew me, but I took him and
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. So twenty eighteen happens when I get
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: knocked out. He's Andre Branch is the one that knocked
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: me out.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: That smoke, so he was this is a plan.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: This dude was the guy saying body bag.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 8: Also, I'll say this, you had there was some people
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 8: at your neck, No doubt Taylor had had some bounties
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 8: on his head, like respectful bounties or within the line
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 8: as much as you can.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: Taylor, was he ever popping off to you.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 8: He would chirp, but then like it's like a respectful chirt,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 8: Like I'm like, I'm not afraid of you, which I respect,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 8: But at the same time, I'm not finna really try
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 8: and piss you off, because I know if I piss
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 8: you off, I might I have to ask some other
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 8: people to get into this battle, because.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for me with like a guy like Sue, if
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk shit to Sue, I'm not.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: I don't really play you. You're like a three.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: I'll hit you in a couple of doubles every once
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: in a while, like a third down pound to be
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: out the nine. I'll just wide set you my basketball
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: with you. I'm not letting you come down come down
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: the pipe. But if I go talk to Sue, I'm
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: fucking over Roger Sapple Quinn Spain.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, so.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 8: We would have to story would be.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: Because we didn't play You went in fifteen to Miami. Yeah,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: so fifteen we played, y'll maybe fifteen or sixteen, Yeah,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: And I had James Harrison my rookie year, and I
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: was mouthing off to James Harrison, but that was a
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: me and him thing. So when we go to this game,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, don't wake the sleeping giant. And it
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: was essentially like the offensive would come to me and
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: be like, if you speak to suit today, we're gonna
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: put hands on you in the locker room. Like you don't,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: like you can say whoever you want to wear everybody else,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: but like, do not speak to suit. Right, So then
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: I would go to the banter with Sue like trying
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: to like, you know, if I can get this guy
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: to crack a smile like that, that's my fun. But
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: for him, it's like, I don't have to deal with
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: this sixty two snaps, maybe like three four snaps a game.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to help my boys out with.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: Branch hand story that's full circle.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: I did, Yeah, I knew you were on the team,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: so I was good enough to have something in my head.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 8: Huh, yeah you were.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 11: You were. I mean, you definitely were.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: And I did say, oh, I got this guy in
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: the open field. He doesn't even see me, and now
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: he's asleep on the ground.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: They changed so after this game, they actually after the season,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: they changed the rule of blindside blocks.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 8: But the thing is, was it I don't know if
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 8: it was. It was changed way before that. It was
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 8: just only changed for probably the offense because I don't remember.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 8: Kyle Van Deenbosch, he got blindsided by a receiver coming
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 8: out in like he's aimed at the quarterback inside and
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 8: dude just hit him in the side of the head.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 8: Crazy, and he ended up having a bad neck because
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 8: of that and went on. So that was they started
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 8: protecting defense and then obviously we try to start getting
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 8: back at y'all. Because of that.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: Teams would do that. They like Jets sweep on like
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: a talls or something, and the receiver would just take
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: off on the end. Bro.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: I hate to I hate to keep this on, but
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: was there was the coaching staff and this hit on me.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, it was.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 8: Just like it was. I would say, Branch for sure
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: had it out for you, because obviously you guys had history.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: Which I legit honestly, before that hit, I wouldn't even
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: thinking like stuff like, oh me and this Branch do
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: have any issues?
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't even think like I got him. I
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: mean a few times, like when he's at Jacksonville, like
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: I played against him well, and I would obviously talk ship,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: but in my mind, like once again, I don't feel.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 8: Like you and Jordan Phillips got into it a lot, yes,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 8: and he was on you like he was on.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: He was at Buffalo. That's why I had my mix
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: up with the Bills. Remember Bill's mafia came at my
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: throat because of who was the We were literally just
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: there shacks shack gloss.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: It was like you're a stud first round pick. And
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: I put up his stats it was like six tackles,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: you know, for the season, and I was like you're
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: a stud. And then Phillips came at me. But the
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: weird thing about Phillips, if he's really saying these things
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: behind closed doors on the field, he's mister nice guy to.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 8: Me, at least not in Miami, I don't think so.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: He probably had big Bro watching out.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah for sure. But I remember y'all getting into it
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 8: a couple times, especially. I feel like here in Tennessee.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: Miami, that was the longest game of all bro I know.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: And so how much you.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 6: Get I have no clue you with something you were
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 6: so you had, Oh not not bounties as in like paid, No,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 6: it's just pride individual.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 8: No, not hurting, like getting back at you.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: I made a promise to myself too, which I will
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: not keep.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, if I ever see Andre branch I
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: got to walk up and swing on him. No words. Really,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: I remember like after like that blindside like that, I
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: was like, I gotta go up and just swinging like that.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 8: But obviously it's the case for all the high loans.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 11: I got a lot of people to go.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Seven years now. I like it is what it is.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: It's over. But nothing pisses me off more than watching
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: that back and seeing y'all, I don't know if you
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: were in the clip, but being like body bag, we
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: got a body back in the coach, but I don't
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: even know.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 8: I don't think I was on the field for that one.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: This is this is when they're waking my ass up
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: because there's a there was a Miami and Titan start fighting.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Like I woke up, and I'm like this only time
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: I see a fight, Like I get in there, I
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: have to take my boys, and they're like there. They
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: pulled me up and they're like, Taylor, you know you
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: got knocked out. You're straight, And I just start crying.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't know even dude, I just cried from it.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: We had the same thing happened with Jack Conker, Like yeah,
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: I was like crying. Then Ben Jones are center puts
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: a towel over my head after this.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you weren't so Phillips right there.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah he said, oh yeah, he said, we got his ass.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: Twenty fifteen, you signed the biggest deal for these defensive
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: player in the history.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 11: YEP.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: Fifteen and sixteen. You have two career years, you're like
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 5: top sixteen, the NFL, Top one hundred. YEAP twenty seventeen
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: season happens, and you get released after that.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 8: Season first time ever cut my history.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 5: What happened in Miami.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 8: I would not speak of his name, but Steven Ross
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 8: was put in a terrible position where he had to
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 8: choose between me and the head coach, and rightfully so,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 8: and maybe not even rightfully so. At the end of
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 8: the day, he had no control from my understanding, and
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 8: because the person that had control was the head coach
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 8: that had the ability to cut and bring players in
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 8: and whatnot. It wasn't even the GM at that time,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: and this was like a super weird situation or whatever.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 8: So this the head coach had have been debta for
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 8: me for whatever reason.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: Was there a moment that caused the friction.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 8: I think there was a handful of moments throughout the
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 8: probably two years that I was there with him as
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 8: a head coach, because Joe Philbin was the first coach
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 8: that I had in Miami, and then Dan Campbell was interim,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 8: which was a blast, like a great dude to play for.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 8: I got to catch up with him in Detroit recently,
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 8: and then this slap Dick came in as the head
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 8: coach for the last two years of my tenure in
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 8: Miami and he and.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: He had roster control, and he goes up to the
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: owner of the Miami Dolphins and says him or.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: Me basically crazy.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and he tried to he got rid of Jaya
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 8: ji Uh, tried to ruin his career like and out
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 8: of him, like in our team meeting in like the
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 8: most weirdest way, and sent him to Philly. And I
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 8: think jag I end up winning championship with Philly, which
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 8: was a great situation for him. But yeah, he was
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 8: trying to like he had been dead as out for
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 8: like guys that just didn't grovel at his feet, which
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 8: was weird.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: To kiss the ring from him.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like, but what ring did you? Did you earn?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 8: I don't even know if he ever won a championship.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like his.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 8: Claim to fame was like I was a o c
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 8: or like the quarterbacks coach for Peyton. Peyton didn't need you.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 8: Peyton was way good before you, Like he had Tony
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 8: Dudgy Jim Calwell, like he had like real coaches that
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 8: actually made him in like aka, his dad is a
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 8: boss too, So like it came with the roots.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, then after that, you end up going to the
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 5: Rams the rams.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 11: Yeah, how did how.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 5: Did your contract situation work? Because you ended up representing
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: yourself right.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there was times where I represented myself and I
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 8: was always involved in my contracts and I knew like
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 8: so when I was trying to represent myself, it was
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 8: always interesting. I needed to always kind of have like
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 8: a face for me too, because gms didn't really want
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 8: to talk to me, Like Jason Light was the only
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 8: GM that would physically like have a real conversation when
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 8: I was representing myself. So it was it was always interesting.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 8: But I really after my rookie deal and like kind
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 8: of going back to the whole thing with Detroit, my
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 8: rookie deal there was not what I wanted, but I said, cool,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 8: you don't want to pay me more than Matthew Stafford.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 8: From that standpoint, great, I'll earn it on the back end,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 8: and saying like, I'll show you that I'm worth more
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 8: than what you're paying me, So I'll get I'll get
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 8: on the back end and prove it to you. And
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 8: so going back to your common of like representing yourself,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 8: I started reading contracts understanding it got with the PA,
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 8: saw all the different rules, saw offset clauses and then
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 8: seeing like the difference between cash over cap and all
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 8: these different particular pieces. And so when I got cut,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 8: like I got to go, I chose between New Orleans LA,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 8: and I was looking at the Raiders again because I
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 8: think Gruden was the head coach there at the time
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 8: and whatnot. And but LA ended up being the better
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 8: situation because my guy Ted Rath was there and he
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 8: really was kind of the one over the hunt. And
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 8: then I had a really an amazing dinner with Cronky,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 8: and Cronky and his family are amazing great people. So
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 8: like it was, it was just a good situation. But
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 8: I was always involved in my contracts, man, Like you
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 8: got to understand the numbers. You got to understand what
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 8: you're signing up for and what you're getting into and
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 8: just the nuances of how you can have leverage but
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 8: also have an opportunity to make the.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: Most confidence negotiating.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, how how is that so much fun? Because how are.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: You prepping yourself on that? Is there something that is
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 5: there questions you're asking a mentor is there a reading
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: that you're doing?
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 8: So I want to equip you for Yeah, so I
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 8: I leveraged the PA a lot, and uh, he may
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 8: probably not want me to say this, but Don Davis
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 8: gave me a ton of information of like how to
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 8: understand the deals. But then also like where previous guys
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 8: are where they've had some success, were their stats, like
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 8: putting these spreadsheets together and alin it and all together,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 8: putting it together. It's like you really want to go
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 8: the stat piece, like we can have fun with this,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 8: and then let's go look at percentage of what it's
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 8: the analytics, what's the big analytics group that was out
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 8: and it's still kind of out there now pff, and
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 8: like seeing like all those different things and like they're misconstrued.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 8: But also they show some pictures of like how many
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 8: people that I'm double team with, Like that year that
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 8: I was with me and Aaron Donald, Like I got
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 8: more double teams in Aaron Donald. Like if you go
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 8: back and look at the math, because that was on
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 8: purpose though we put him his positions to go win
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 8: one on once, Aaron Donald one on once. He's gonna
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 8: win every single time, so why not take so my
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 8: stats look terrible then, but then you back that up.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 8: He had his career year in sacks. Then you turn
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 8: around the next year, I'm gone not as good as
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 8: stats for him, but still obviously a great and amazing player.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 8: Shaq Barrett, who's considered a nobody, leads the league in sacks. Yeah,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 8: there's a common de neighbor denominator there, right, Like let's
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 8: let's let's put the pieces of puzzle together. So like ultimately,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 8: like when you like, when you're in those negotiations, those
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 8: are the things that you have to lay out to
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 8: them to say, oh, like he does have a point
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 8: in some point that I can't refute.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: When when you're going through these negotiations, what do you
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: think is the most uh overlook stat that these gms
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: and teams like you brough up a great point with
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: the double teams like people a lot of times, I think,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: especially just regular fans can go and google what is
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: the domink ensous stats twenty eighteen. Yeah, and you just
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: look at that, but you don't see the full picture.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: What are some things that you see gms and teams
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: maybe not evaluating and not they don't notice when it
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: comes to contract negotiations.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 8: Two things I would say there for you, when you
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 8: were in your offensive line meetings and you're OC, did
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 8: your OC ever circle me?
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 8: That's one two. I would probably have to say, if
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 8: you ultimately look at intangibles as that person, how do
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 8: they affect the team, like in a positive manner or
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 8: a negative? Are they a cancer or are they not
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 8: a cancer? Do they elevate guys? Do they bring guys
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 8: around them and make them better. It's another intangible that
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 8: you can't really quantify, but it's very, very important, And
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 8: I would always take this as the greatest compliment. Guys
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 8: would hate to play against me, but would love for
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 8: me to be on their team, especially once you actually
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 8: got to know me and be around me, because I think,
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 8: like Vita said, it like probably the best and like,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, we're even closer now than we were we
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 8: when we played together. But when I first got to Tampa,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 8: he was like I just had Jared McCoy, super fun,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 8: loving dude. Like I got sued, now, Like how am
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 8: I going to deal? Like everybody is like worst person,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 8: all these different things, and like not he's like total
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 8: opposite of type of person I am.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: So do you think a lot of people you were
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: more of the more misunderstood players in NFL history?
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah?
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 8: For sure. But I also realized early on in my career,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 8: especially after probably like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, there's got
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 8: to be a villain in the league. There's going to
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 8: be the pretty boy, and then there's going to be
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 8: the All Star and sometimes too. So I was a
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 8: villain pretty boy probably Tom would say that, and then
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 8: like the Angel and like the All World, I'd probably
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 8: say for a short period of time, you got t
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 8: bow And then obviously Peyton.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you did play a great heel. You did play
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: a fantastic heel. So you as you were kind of
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: realizing and having that like, Okay, there's these kind of
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: three main characters in an NFL season, and he realized
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: where you kind of line up as the villain. Did
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: you find yourself pulling away from that characteristics or like
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: buying more into Okay, if this is what the world
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: wants to see me, as that's what I'm going to show.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 8: Them, then it's interesting that you asked that question. So
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 8: I think probably the best meeting that I had when
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 8: I got suspended in twenty eleven, I went and Phil
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 8: Knight called me into his office. I was home. He
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 8: found out I was home. There's somebody who's super close
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 8: between the two of us. I connected us it's funny.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 8: I just I just talked to him yesterday and he
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 8: pulled me into his office and requested me to come.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 8: So I went and sat down with him. He was like, man,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 8: you may not realize it right now, but we're going
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 8: to leverage this and we're going to put you in commercials.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 8: We're going to do different great things. So that's how
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 8: I kind of leaned into it, and that's why I'm
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 8: so loyal to the brand of Nike, because they saw
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 8: something and Phil saw something in me, not only being
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 8: a hometown kid, but seeing me as an individual and
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 8: being able to say, we can build some special stuff
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 8: around you. Uh, and that is even more special because
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 8: you're on the defense side of the ball. You're not
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 8: Calvin catching balls, you're not a quarterback throwing it. Like,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 8: we're going to leverage you from that standpoint, and there's
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 8: going to be other things that you can do. And
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 8: like they let me have so much access and different
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 8: things like that, and like, I'm so happy even from
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 8: Nike's perspective now, I think they're on a rocket ship,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 8: especially now with Elliott Hill at the Helm, who I
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 8: interned underneath in twenty twelve.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: So oh shit, Yeah, so that's the reason why you
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: didn't pick your foot up and you fell.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 5: Darann Rogers cat.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 11: I believe that.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 5: Come on, you take pride and being like, what is it?
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: Number two? Old time in fines over t career.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 8: They went, they went to help some kids, hopefully did you.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: End up seeing There was an article that an elementary
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 5: school did back in the early twenty ten's. His name
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 5: was Alex and he the theme for the project was
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 5: write a paper on your role model. His role model
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 5: was you, because he wanted to prove that you're one
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 5: of the most misunderstood You're the most misunderstood player in
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: the NFL. Teacher wouldn't let him and told his mom, hey,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 5: he needs to rethink somebody else. She felt like she
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 5: knew enough about you to know you shouldn't be writing
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: on a Dominican su They go back and forth, kids up,
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: she ends up, the teacher concedes, kid ends up writing
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 5: the paper. She grades him an a and ends up apologizing,
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 5: saying she had she had a misrepresentation on who you were.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 5: Did you do you remember that? Do you remember that
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 5: article at all? Because the kid did a research paper
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 5: and might have got connected with somebody on your side
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 5: but I thought it was cool that a kid was
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: so influenced by you and wanted to prove that, Hey,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: this dude, for the antics you might see, he's one
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 5: of the most misunderstood guys in the NFL.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 8: No, that's super dope. I honestly don't remember. I'd love
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 8: to see the article to this day for sure, and
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 8: then I'd be remiss not to say this. You got
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 8: to give a lot of credit to that teacher because
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 8: you usually hear the opposite of the stories where this
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 8: teacher puts their foot down and they end up creating something,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 8: and the friction between them and that child, and that
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 8: that teacher was like, Man, I'm an adult enough to
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 8: be humble enough to say this child like I was
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 8: wrong and you proved me right, and I appreciate that.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 8: So you got to give that teacher kudos as well.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 5: We got about ten minutes left to I have a
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: couple more questions for you. Would say that Ricky Henry
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 5: thinks you misunderstood.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 8: Why you say, Ricky Hendrey, Yeah, Ricky had some battle,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 8: remember I remember, Ricky. Yeah, give me a little details.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 5: You dropped him. I gave nobody on the field said
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 5: a word and everybody just kind of moved ten yards
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 5: and we continued the scrimmage.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: We continued to give give me more, give me more context.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 5: Anybody else does more contact on what happened Ricky, who
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 5: knows they were getting into a battle. Ricky could have been.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 8: So I'll explain to you this way, Taylor, Taylor, if
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 8: if the reason why on.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 5: The field, I'm trying to give you up everybody.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 8: The reason why my a c O was torn. And
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 8: people don't know this. I don't remember we're doing one
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 8: on ones. I don't remember this guy's name. He was
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 8: offensive tackle, but he was like tweeting between tackling car.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 8: He tugs on my jersey after I beat him, and
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 8: that was the first time I tore.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 11: My a c O.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 8: And we always told dudes, dude, once we beat you,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 8: let us go. You know, Ricky's hard headed. Ricky don't listen.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 8: Ricky does what Ricky wants to do. So Ricky had
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 8: to learn the hard way.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 5: Hey, But the difference is, Taylor, you know, any other
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 5: player does it. You're getting something's happened. And now, yeah,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 5: that was you going into your senior year. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 5: no big suit. But that's what I'm saying, everybody looks like,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 5: oh fuck.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: Just laying there in the corner.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: Move it up ten like you know, guys. Guys might
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: get into a scuff afterwards, both and everybody take off running.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 5: Everybody do this discipline. Something nobody said a war just
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 5: kept the movie. They said nothing to suit.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we we had a conversation though, But how was.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: At a spring practice? When did we go out?
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: There?
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 5: Was it last year? Some last year was him and computer.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: They were all ripping around enjoying spring practice. But they're
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 5: doing well, they're doing well. But yeah, that memory will
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: always be ingrained in my brain.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's a core memory for you.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 5: That's a poor one because I see Sue like we weren't.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 5: We weren't like he was tyed with my boy, my
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: roommate Zoe Whaley. But I never got the like rock
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: with Sue. It was just always the war lore.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 11: There was no lore bro the.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 5: Absolutely we have so many like middle You.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 8: Were around all the time because you was cool, my
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 8: boy harf absolutely so obviously so, but you weren't like
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 8: all right, was my click, My click was me Harve,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 8: my ace. But Cody wasn't really there. Cody was there
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 8: like towards that he would be in and out because
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 8: he was dating oh girl, Yeah, and he was in
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 8: the league, and so he would come in and out.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 8: But yeah and Zoe. So it was like mainly me
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 8: and Harves. That would be obviously like we go out
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 8: and have fun and whatnot, and you would be able
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 8: to be around, but you could be in the mix
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 8: mix because we'd also be in some places where like
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 8: you know, some of the parties, like you're kind of
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 8: the only white guy there.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 11: But it was it was fun, man.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: But you got token.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 5: I was talking. My boy was Zoe Fonzo, like the
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 5: crew that I hung with. But I would just try
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: and place myself in this situe. You know, I fucking
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: around with Sue and he called me like, fuck boy,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: that's my guy.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: That's my guy.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 5: He like cuts me out walking past me in the
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 5: hallway and I'd be walking next to to me. I beg,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 5: that's us. That's just how we operate.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: Some people going like, well's got a weird thing with
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: eat a bullome or something. We had eight minutes hold
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: on before you asked that question. I want to know
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: on your board, somebody on your board invested a lot
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: of money in Coca Cola a long time ago. Okay,
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: how did you get the relationship with Warren Buffett?
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 8: Easy answer and quick answer.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 11: Would be Tom Osborne.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 8: Uh So my senior year he was an honorary captain
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 8: as in mister Buffett, and I was like, they wanted
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 8: me to meet him, and I was like, they asked me,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 8: do you even know who he is? I was like,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 8: do I live under a rock? Of course I knew
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 8: who it is. So for that season, I asked Thomas, hey,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 8: it would you introduce us? And he was like, I will,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 8: but I can't guarantee he'll meet with you.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 11: And I was like, totally cool.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 8: So uh he said yes. I got to his office
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 8: two hours before the meeting time, sat there and it
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 8: was like talking to my dad and we just hit
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 8: it off. It took a liking to me. I always
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 8: followed up to it with him. Was just at Berkshire
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 8: Hathaway meeting this past May. I got to see that
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 8: great announcement and I mean I even he's spent time
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 8: with my wife, my boys, like he's one of the best.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate that. Man. It makes me emotional hearing that too,
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  Speaker 5: being a father because of what that person meant to you.
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  Speaker 8: I'll give you this short example. My dad and I
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 8: were super close. We built a lot of projects together
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  Speaker 8: from a real estate perspective, and he was in the
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 8: construction industry. He's a mechanical engineer. And there's a property
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 8: and it's so weird and it's so eerie. He was like,
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  Speaker 8: I want us to go buy this property, and I'm like, Dad,
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  Speaker 8: I love you, but no, I'm busy. I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 8: do some other stuff. Ye he goes and buys the
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  Speaker 8: property without me. He buys it on contract, and like
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 8: six months later he comes back and he's like, son,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 8: I bought this property, like I want to refinance it
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 8: or whatever. And I was like, don't do it. Here's
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 8: a cash like we'll we'll develop it later. And I'm
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 8: just like, here's the money, like leave me alone, Like
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  Speaker 8: let's let's go work on some other stuff. That's because
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 8: we're at that I think at that time we were
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 8: building like fifteen apartments somewhere, a multi family. That's really
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 8: my big focus at the time, and this was like
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 8: a warehouse spot this today in the last six months.
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  Speaker 8: You probably see it on my Instagram or whatever if
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 8: you follow me or whatever. And I'd go there almost
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  Speaker 8: five times a week with my boys, porn concrete, building stuff,
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  Speaker 8: using my excavator, using my skids steer, Like it is insane.
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  Speaker 8: And I wouldn't have had that if my dad would
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  Speaker 8: have brought that property. So it's like and my kids
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  Speaker 8: are immersed in loving doing that stuff and it's humbling,
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  Speaker 8: like moving stuff, moving earth and like these different things
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  Speaker 8: and like so it's crazy. Like he had this crazy
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  Speaker 8: vision of like real estate and stuff that I missed
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  Speaker 8: being able to talk to him about.
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  Speaker 5: That's amazing, bro. That is he Also I know that
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  Speaker 5: there was it was you retired on July twelfth, or
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 5: a year after your dad had passed, and there was
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 5: a quote, I think from your dad saying like let
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 5: the game of football go. Yeah, how was that conversation going?
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 5: Were you like talking about juggling football? And he just
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 5: kind of was like, hey, here's here's what my opinion is.
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  Speaker 8: So he was it's insane. He was diagnosed with prostate
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 8: cancer in twenty nineteen, stage four, so he when we
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 8: found that out, he was supposed to be.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a year.
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  Speaker 8: For lucky you didn't pass until twenty twenty four, five
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 8: years later. Like, it's insane from that standpoint, and so
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  Speaker 8: when he's asked me to retire, he's like, basically, spend
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 8: time with me, Spend time with your family. Like me
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 8: and my older sister were in a feud, and he's like,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 8: spend time with your older sister, like even though she
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 8: was wrong, some things you were wrong and some things
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 8: like bring the family back together, and like let's do that.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 8: And it's it's so that's where like it was more
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 8: meaningful for me to do it that day than than
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 8: anything because he'd always wanted me to retire, and I
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 8: was like, I want to go chase the second ring.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 8: I want to go chase the second ring. And like
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 8: I'd always sit in the back of my head like
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 8: having that there with me, like, nah, I'm not I'm
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 8: not going to do that. I need to go spend
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 8: time with my family, my boys, my wife, and kind
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 8: of go from there.
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  Speaker 5: I love that man. That is beautiful. You want to
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 5: ask him the bud like question, Yeah, I can't.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'll ask it. No, I'll ask it.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: So and he would people would do anything for ice, cold,
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: bud light, anything. What is something you would do anything for?
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: Can't say family, can't say family?
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, be the most successful ex football player to ever.
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 8: Live now, because like there's always going to be the
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 8: next person that's probably most successful to me, So it's
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 8: hard to say that. I mean, I believe everything happens
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 8: for a reason, Like the family is really the only
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 8: thing I would do anything for. To be honest with you,
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 8: Like money's cool and all, but it's not the end
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 8: all be all.
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  Speaker 5: Like what's an ambition in your like development, whatever whatever
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 5: venture you're getting into. You mentioned AI earlier, But what's
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 5: like a selfish ambition you would like to accomplish.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 8: A selfish ambition? I would say my friends that I'm
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 8: really close to to understand the circles that I've been
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 8: able to be in is afforded to them at all times,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 8: at all levels. And that's what I don't think they
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 8: understand because my mentors that the Warren buffets. I'm not
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 8: going to say these other guys' names, but like I
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 8: just got pressed out in the hand and it was
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 8: like really rewarding and a great feeling at the same time.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 8: But it's like, stop wasting your time with some of
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 8: these other stuff and like really just come work with
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 8: us and like let's go build some fun stuff, like
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 8: be focused and basically saying, take advantage of the access
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 8: we're giving you.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will, And I don't think we're all building
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: a property to.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 11: Yeah we are.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I'm I'm dead ass.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 5: Hey I am dead ass. I think I can say
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 5: we are dead ass.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: We're dead ass. We collectively, the three of us are
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: dead ass, right, Yeah, because he.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 5: Said, he's like, please tell me you want it, And
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 5: it pained me to be like, I know, we have tried.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: It didn't work, but buddy, we up until very recently,
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: we've been very balling on a budget, like just trying
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: to utilize every single extra dollar to gain more access
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: to this better quality that and like you see the
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: things along with the amazing partners we have, Like yeah,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: we now have the access and the funds to start
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: like taking next steps, which is awesome, but it really
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: is like literally the last what two weeks, three weeks
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 1: for you and me.
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 8: Who's who's the best construction company in Tennessee right now?
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: Construction company?
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe maybe there's a partnership there.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: You know a guy named Ford Tomlin who his family
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: has been in like a commercial real estate and construction
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: for a long time. Success.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 8: There's a ton of Cranes. Was just driving down the street,
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 8: like I saw people that.
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: There's a guy named Tony who built five h five.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 8: That building the new stadium.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: And these are all the questions like this, like when yeah,
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: when you're like when I'm on a microphone, people are
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: listening to us right now and you're asking this question.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling dumber because I'm like, it's no, no, no, It's
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 1: like a level of like that is something that you
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 1: literally should just find out and make a relationship with.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: Like you see the Cranes, it should click in your head,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: like there's so much going on, I wonder how we
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: could be a part of X, Y and Z.
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 11: And going to do is bring me in.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna be a real estate vertical for you guys.
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 8: Let's go.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 5: I love that every.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: One cheeky, bullshit, clippy question before you go. If you
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: could choose, if you could change, go back in time
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: and change one thing about your NFL career, what would
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: you change?
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 5: Nothing?
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: Come on, there's not one thing, one altercation, one conversation, penalty,
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: one play, nothing.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 8: Because it would it would I wouldn't be who I
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 8: am today if I didn't have.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: That butterflyffa guy cut your guy right now. It's a
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: great movie, but there's not one thing.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 5: Like he he. I'll give you one.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: I'll give you one. I wish I had looked the
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: left in twenty eighteen against the Miami Dolphins, right like,
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: that's that's a good one.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 5: You ever get got?
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: I got his ass once.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 8: I've ever gotten got, I've gotten got. But you wouldn't
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 8: have known that I got got hey.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 5: I got you once.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 1: Win double team took you, I took your took you
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: back win Miami.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 11: Pull a clip up.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: Listen, we're having a good time here. There was a couple. Man,
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: we caught you slipping.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 5: I caught that hip a little bit.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying everyone.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, getting my hip.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we take you about five six I mean, huh
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 5: five six yards.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 8: Maybe like a yard and a half yard and a
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 8: come on, man, because you know I'm usually spinning out
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 8: of those things once I once, once I feel that,
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 8: I'm like, just go and get it out of here.
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 8: I took that loss.
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: Hit the tap. Let me get water too.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 5: You've never been like put down.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 8: I mean there's been some times where like I've jumped
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 8: up in the air and guys have like pushed me
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 8: down and got me like that, but like somebody just
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 8: a main handling me. I don't I don't see that.
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: Did you have a welcome to the NFL moment?
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 8: Welcome to the NFL? I don't think so, but somebody
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 8: else might you.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 5: Have an welcome to the NFL moment? The NFL had
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 5: a welcome, Yeah, welcome to the Hey, we appreciate you,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 5: bro An, enlighten.
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