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ILLUMINATING THE DARKNESS: Power of Forgiveness, Navigating Trauma and Healing | Shannon Curtis - Ep. 52 · Soul Communication Podcast with Diana MaAra Divine

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My perpetrator is my greatest teacher.
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He taught me to find my light. But I would ask him who taught
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you this? And when we start doing that,
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maybe we can start healing because just locking everyone
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up, we can't do that. That's not it.
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We have to get to the root of it.
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Why are we behaving this way? Why are we looking for power
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outside of our self? Why are we doing that?
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Because if the male had the power within him, he is not
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going to need mine. And that's what it starts with
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is finding the power in these children to save.
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All the answers are within us, and so maybe we'll stop looking
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outside of ourselves. Hello everyone, welcome to Soul
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Communication. I am Diana Mara Devine and I am
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an author bestseller of a book called Mastering Quantum
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Creation, A Week in the Phoenix Within, Manifest Your Reality
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and Reclaim Your Cosmic Power. The book is available on Amazon
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and other big stores and the audio book is coming out on
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11/11 so you can also listen to it.
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The book covers everything about remembering who you are, how to
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expand your field, kundalini activation, light language, and
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ultimately remember that you are Master Quantum creator.
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And today we have a topic that might be a little heavy, but I
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felt it's really important to address it.
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Talking about sexual traumas, about divine feminine versus
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divine masculine and toxic energy, that it being in the
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program, if it's time for it to be transmuted and transformed,
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especially as new children are coming here and we need to
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support them. I'm excited for this
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conversation to talk to Shannon Curtis.
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She's the founder of Angel Goddess Healing, a sanctuary
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dedicated to those looking for healing, transformation, and
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personal growth. She's guided individuals to
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overcome the traumas. Also is an author of children's
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book No More Monsters Under the Bed and Shining Your Light on
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the Dark. I'm really looking forward to
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this conversation with Shanna. Thank you so much for being
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here. Thank you so much for having me.
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I'm very humbled to be here. Shannon, so great to have you
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here. I know this conversation might
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be uncomfortable for some, but I think we're going to be shining
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a lot of really good light on it.
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But before we jump into that, how you feeling today?
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What excites you today as you are an intuitive coach and
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spiritual entrepreneur? I would say what excites me is
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the possibility of the limitless as humans being here and my
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understanding of my purpose here.
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And so once I get that understanding of I'm the
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ultimate creator, it makes that excitement of what do I want to
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do and for me and excitement is helping other people and healing
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other people really continues and helps me continue my healing
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journey. I would say my big you said
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sometimes everyone has their aha moment.
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My led me to Mexico and where I sat and sacred plant medicine
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ibogate. And with that I had my great
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awakening, but also a remembrance.
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And when I was four years old, I do remember being taken by an
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older person that came to my home.
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I was I had two older sisters that were in school.
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My parents were at work and so I was home with the housekeeper
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and it was a family acquaintance.
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I wouldn't even say friend and he stopped by to see if he could
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take me for the day. And so my housekeeper called
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they'd have it. My mom didn't answer and so I
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went with this person and all the memories I really have was
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just a couple of them taking me different places.
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But back in the 80s, I went to McDonald's and I got a balloon.
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And so I remember coming home with the balloon and when my mom
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got home from work, she asked me.
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She said where did you get that? And as soon as I told her whole
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energy shifted. And so it imagines my little 4
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year old empathic self. I felt all of that and I felt
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that fear. And so I immediately said
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nothing happened. And so all my life, my mom asked
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me in so many different ways. She would ask, asked me laying
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down with the lights off, whatever it was.
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She just kept asking me. And the answer was always the
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same, nothing. And so I had a lot of things
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happened to me. I started my period when I was
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11. By the time I was in high
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school, I was going to the doctor because of painful
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periods. I had a surgery for
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endometriosis when I was in high school, suffered many
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miscarriages later and fertility, another surgery for
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endometriosis, bladder disease, all these physical things, all
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these physical things. But I finally was able to have
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my daughter and the day I had her I had AC section.
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And so that day they prescribed me pain medicine and that
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forever changed my life. And for the next 7 years of my
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daughter's life, I became addicted physically and mentally
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to pain medicine. And it was that thing of I
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learned instantly it numbed my pain.
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And so that was this little tool friend of mine that anytime it
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kept me from dealing with my stuff.
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And so that led me down that path of addiction.
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But then everything came to a head like it always does.
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And I was just done. And so when I was offered if I
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wanted to get help, I said absolutely.
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I was literally just waiting for someone to see me.
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It was like, see me, I'm over here doing all these bad things
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because I want to be seen. And so that led me, I, I said
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yes before the words could even come out of my mom's mouth.
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And so that led me to a wonderful trauma center and for
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six weeks and I stayed there and I really focused on healing and
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healing my trauma. But one of the things that we
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talked about was trying to go to that space of that four year old
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because I told him about it and I remember doing some somatic
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work and it no matter what and we took it there, nothing came
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up, no memories. And so it was like, OK, so I
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went on with my life. I found about seven years later
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a great in sobriety recovery. Just life is great for turn 40
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wanted to experience something different after 15 year
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marriage. It was not feeling aligned with
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my most authentic self. And so I had to do the hardest
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thing was just be speak my truth.
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And so when I did that a few years later, it led me to
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meeting my partner now, who led me to the beautiful plant
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medicine that forever changed my life.
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So he went to Mexico at a place called Ambio Life Sciences.
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That's this wonderful facility. And he had a beautiful
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experience and helped heal his Tbis, his brain injuries,
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suicide, depression, all that stuff.
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And so I was scared. And a lot of people in the plant
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community, they say the medicine starts talking to you.
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And when he went and had such amazing experience, I started
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feeling that full because I was like, no, I'm good, I'm good.
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And there was something telling me you need to go.
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And so I signed up. I said, OK, I'm going to face my
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fear and go. And so about six months later, I
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found myself there with four other beautiful women.
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And we were all searching for these answers of how we arrived
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to where we're at. And so if anyone understands it,
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it's not like ayahuasca. It's very much like you sleep,
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you're laying down all night and you put a mask on.
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And once you put your mask on and close your eyes, it's like a
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dream. That's the only way I can say is
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if you've ever had dreams that felt so real or you're flying or
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someone's chasing and you're that, that's what it felt like
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to me. It was just very dreamlike, but
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real. And so immediately in the
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beginning, I felt this energy from God and he was like, Are
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you ready? And it was right off the bat and
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I said, I'm ready. And I knew I was there.
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And so immediately I was looking, it was like I left my
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body. I wasn't there.
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I was looking and I was back at that 4 year old self.
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And I was looking in the car and I was on the left hand side, the
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little passenger side, and the male was on the right.
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And it showed me in a gentle way that yes, I was molested.
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And in that moment, I had all the feelings that you would
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feel, the devastation for my soul because I wasn't attached
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to it was like I was watching it.
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And it was like, Oh my gosh. But then I had anger and you
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have all those feelings. But then I had relief that I was
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like, I always knew. It made sense.
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Everything made sense to me. Everything that led me there,
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all these bad things that I did or thought I did, was from that
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moment. And so then I looked down and I
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had this God essence and my perpetrator is right in front of
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me and I'm pacing him. And I looked down and the only
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thing I can describe, it's like a ball of red yarn.
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And it was all knotted up. And I looked down and I said,
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this is bad. And God's Yeah.
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And I knew what it was, anger. And I said I have to give it
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back to him. And so I immediately gave all
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that shame back to my perpetrator.
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And so I had that moment. But then there's that energy
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right there. And I'm staring and I'm like, Oh
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my gosh, literally, he is the same light as me.
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And in that moment I was looking at him as God sees all of us as
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creator, as we had a contract, we had a thing.
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And if I came here to experience forgiveness, somebody had to do
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something to me. That's just what it is.
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If we come here as humans and the human thing is to experience
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all the emotions, part of that is pain.
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And so in that moment I knew and I forgave this person and it was
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the most beautiful thing of saying thank you.
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My soul wanted to experience that.
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Maybe my human mind didn't understand it, but I am in this
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higher level and my soul understood it.
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And so it was that moment of knowing it was not done to me,
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it was done for me. And so with that, the rest of my
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journey was the most beautiful evening of flying and angels.
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And God just told me I was an Angel and I'm here just, I'm
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literally here to just send love and light and the message of
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forgiveness. Because once you have an
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understanding, first I had to have a knowing and then I feel
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like the next level is the understanding of it.
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And that's where a lot of people get stuck with why bad things
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happen. And we get stuck in our trauma
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and we get stuck in our past because we want to understand
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it. And so that's what I came to
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with God was understanding that this is that game of life.
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I am a spiritual angelic being having a human experience.
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And so when I'm able to separate those two, I can understand and
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I can see all the gifts that were given to me.
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And so that is my purpose here is to help spreading the message
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that true forgiveness is possible.
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But ultimately the forgiveness was about myself.
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It was about saying you're not going to make me feel bad.
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That was your behavior, not mine.
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And so I just had this ultimate release and like Nirvana feeling
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and I got put it meaning if people unders, if people felt
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what I felt in that moment of true forgiveness, they would get
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it too. And so that really started my
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journey of changing my life and wanting to continue this message
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and write my book. And all these things and gifts
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that were giving to me started from the moment of when I found
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forgiveness for my perpetrator. Wow, thank you for sharing that
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Shannon. That was so powerful.
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What a story and yes, the power forgiveness, the forgiveness
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frequency is close to gratitude and then it's close to love,
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right. So we bringing it back, we unify
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it with integrated, no matter what happened to us, right?
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And this victim victimizer energy that is so present in the
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collective right now. A lot of us right now looking at
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the shadows, looking at those experiences some of us had in
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childhood, some of us possibly had in other past lives.
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Because I'm doing a lot of quantum healing hypnosis.
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And sometimes these traumas are coming from other lifetimes,
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like being killed in the war on the battlefield or similar type
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of experiences. You mentioning happening and
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that stays in your field. So it's so important right now
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to do the work to recognize it and bring it back to the
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frequency of love. What would you recommend
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someone? Where can they start if they
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acknowledge and what you saying how they can forgive?
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I think you you hit on a perfect thing of the level of gratitude.
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So I am a huge believer in gratitude because that's how you
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shift your perspective of that victim.
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And I feel like that being the victim gives you kind of
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permission to do things. It's I deserve this.
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I remember in my early recovery of learning that resentment was
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one of the one things of leading you to relapse because you just
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wait for that. You're like, I need that drink
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because I had a bad day because I got broken up.
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So sometimes we look for those outlets.
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And so that's that when you shift that and you find that
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perspective of it doesn't matter.
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And I tell people with my clients, sometimes your
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gratitude to someone could be thank you for showing me who I
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choose not to be. And so it's just that gift of
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sometimes of having that discernment.
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We have to have the light with the dark because I tell my
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daughter, if we were just surrounded by the light all the
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time, we would have no understanding of it.
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And there's that understanding piece.
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So we bring in the dark so we have contrast.
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And so when people understand that, like you said, the
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frequency of love, or I always say love or fear, love or fear,
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I truly feel like those are the only two core things.
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And what is love? That's the ultimate.
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It's unconditional. It doesn't matter what you do to
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me, I will always bring it back to love.
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Now I will have boundaries. Boundaries are different because
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boundaries are self love. When I put up boundaries and say
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I don't like this doesn't feel good.
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This doesn't align boundary, but that's also love too.
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And so I think sometimes people get a little confused with the
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forgiveness and the love of that and the boundaries.
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And I always say that's very important to know that I'm not
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saying your behavior's OK, I'm just saying you're not going to
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have power over me anymore. And so I think for someone who's
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wanting to start, it starts with the gratitude.
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What can you find in that situation?
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Because if you can find something to be grateful for,
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then you're starting to shift that perspective of fear.
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What was taken from you instead of what am I supposed to learn
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from this? What is it teaching me?
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And so those are those little shifts that I think is a great
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place for people to start. That's maybe not so
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overwhelming. In QHC, which is the quantum
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Hill hypnosis of Dolores Cannon is as you look at life, you
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always have them reflect back and say what was the purpose of
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this lifetime? What was the lesson?
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Where did you learn from it that is relevant for you?
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And if we were to zoom out like that and think about every
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experience we have and know that this experience is just
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experience and source, God Spirit, how would want to call
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it, does not judge us. Really, there's no such thing as
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judgement. It's all relevant.
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You're here for the experience. And as you said so powerfully
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about contracts, the lesson is what needs to be learned and
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integrated and brought into the world.
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So beautiful. So there are adults that
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experience in their childhood traumas, but also, how can we
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teach the children? You and I talked a lot about
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these new children coming on Earth.
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They've been coming here especially since 20/13/2012.
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Now there's a new wave of children stepping into this
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reality and then the next wave. And they have higher templates,
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more of their DNA is activated in codexes.
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They're much more sensitive than empathic, and they process
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information differently. But we need to teach them this
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way of being here on Earth. It's very dense.
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What do you think about that? Because you write in all these
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incredible books for children. How are you shining your light
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for them? I aligned.
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So much with that because it's that's how I was this very
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intuitive, sensitive person. All my life I was told I was too
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sensitive and now I've learned it's my power.
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That's how I'm able to my mediumship and to feel spirit is
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because I'm so in tune and sensitive that I feel the little
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shifts. And so I've learned that's my
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superpower. And so I resonate with all these
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gifted children. And what I found is the more
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gifted you are and this, the more sometimes it tries to get
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taken from you in the beginning. And that's why I truly feel my
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understanding of sexual trauma as I always say, who, who is the
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brightest? Who is the most innocent,
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brightest children. So who do you think is going to
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be drawn to that someone that's very much in the dark?
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And so that's that thing of we have to protect that light, but
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we can't protect them 24/7. And so sometimes we get this,
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we're going to protect. We're not going to what if it's
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in your family? What if it's at school?
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What if it's a neighbor? So what we do is we empower our
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children. We finally start to see and hear
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them. And I think that's the shift
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because if we're coming to this place in our Earth, I was just
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saying it the other day, said we are killing our children.
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We're OK with them being bombed. We're OK with them being
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sexually traumatized. What's after that?
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Because there used to be this thing as kids were off limits,
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children and women in war. When we start doing that and
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we're OK with it, what's next then?
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Because the children are our future.
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So if we don't protect them and we don't help them and work
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through their trauma, it's not going to be good.
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And so I know my sole mission has to been to help these
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children say, I see you and I see your guests and you're here
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for a special reason. And there's going to be people
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that are going to try to take your light, but just know they
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can't. It's fear.
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And I always say fear is forgetting everything already
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remembered. That's what fear stands to for
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to me is it's just forgetting everything I've already
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remembered. And so if we can help those
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children remember and hold on to that, we're going to have a
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chance to make a shift. But it starts with talking about
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the dark. It starts with it starts with
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talking about these uncomfortable topics that we
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don't want to. But as a mom, I want to ask, why
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are we OK with our children being abused?
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Why are we OK? And so that's my passion is I
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have learned to turn my own paint.
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And now unfortunately, I'm walking my 15 year old daughter
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through her own sexual trauma. And it's taught me enough is
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enough. And that's why my book series
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are no More. It's no more.
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We have to start talking about these uncomfortable things.
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And so that is my gift to the world is to help these new
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children coming in, is to know they have someone who sees them
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and their gifts are special and they don't have to be in the
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dark alone. No more is a powerful statement,
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a place that we arrive into a specialist divine feminist
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rising where we no longer consenting to the old paradigm
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way. This old paradigm has existed on
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earth quite a long time. And the female has been
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suppressed. The energy is now reclaiming
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itself, re empowering itself. And we also, like you said,
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boundaries. We're drawing the line and we're
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saying no, we're not going to be OK with this any longer.
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And children unfortunately have been victims as much of this
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masculine energy that also deep down is just a wounded child,
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the same child that has been also a trauma victims and to
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regain their power. And that's what they do and they
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dominate in the other. So it's this vicious ancient
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cycle and a lot of our ancestors are part of and I think this is
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the time where we breaking these contracts and we say no, we
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healing many generations forward and many generations back.
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It's time. Yeah, it's.
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Time and the other thing that comes through a lot is, like you
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said, it's the side goals. And so whenever I have that,
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just like my perpetrator, if he was in front of me, what I would
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ask him is who hurts you? Who taught you this behavior?
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Because that's what I've learned.
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That's what we have to start being curious.
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We have to stop judging. Now, I'm not saying like judging
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behavior, but being curious enough where you see a homeless
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person on the street and you drive a lot of times we have
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judgement. OK, they're an alcoholic,
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they're an addict. They're this, they're lazy.
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We judge. But what if you were curious?
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And you walked up to that person and you were curious to know how
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we got to that place because I guarantee you there's a lot of
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pain and trauma with that person to get there and sleep on the
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ground. And so it's the same for these
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perpetrators. They, it is a learned behavior.
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I truly do not believe we are born with this in our hearts
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because that's not who we are. We are love and light, but we
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have the discernment. And yes, they are our teachers.
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My perpetrator is my greatest teacher, and so he taught me to
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find my light. But that's what it is.
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I would ask him, who taught you this?
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And when we start doing that, maybe we can start healing
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because just locking everyone up, we can't do that.
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That's not it. We have to get to the root of
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it. Why are we behaving this way?
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Why are we looking for power outside of ourself?
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Why are we doing that? Because if the male had the
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power within him, he is not going to need mine.
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And that's what it starts with, is finding the power in these
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children to say the power. All the answers are within us.
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And so maybe we'll stop looking outside of ourselves.
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So. Powerful and also as a mother of
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a boy think it also has to do with how we parent these
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children, right? The mothers that a teacher boys
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in a different way. Like I embrace my kids emotions.
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I want him to express his heart and feel everything.
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And I think unfortunately in the past the boys couldn't really be
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connected to the emotions. Like I come from Soviet Union
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where unfortunately those emotions are very suppressed.
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If a boy cried, oh, you're not strong enough.
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Or all those programs that have been put on them to disconnect
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from who they are. And I think in this
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disconnection there is this like awkward energy.
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They don't really know how to be in their bodies it.
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Doesn't go anywhere. It goes out like the energy has
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to go somewhere. And that's what I tell my next
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book is literally about a little boy dealing with anger and this
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fire, the next one's the cardinal, the root chakra.
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But it's all about the fire and the anger that his dad has and
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he starts feeling it. But that's what I understand is
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it all stems from love. And when you have nowhere to go
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with those tears and all that stuff, it starts to get to anger
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because that's nowhere to go. And then when that anger has
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nowhere to go, it turns to rage. And those are those things of
22:27
that control and everything. And so we bring it back from the
22:31
rage to the anger and it's OK to be angry and then bring it back
22:34
to the love and the purpose. And so it is so beautiful that
22:38
you're raising a son to express his feelings.
22:42
What he is literally here to do is experience.
22:45
You're giving him that platform. And so if we can do that as
22:48
parents, especially for the men. I think these children, because
22:54
they're so much more empathic, like they don't really want
22:57
that. In my kids situation, I took him
22:59
to kickboxing, karate type of place.
23:02
When they started actually sparring, he couldn't do it.
23:05
He would come out of the class crying and he was like, well,
23:08
mom, why are you making me be so violent?
23:12
I don't want to be violent. I don't want to be kicked.
23:15
I don't want to kicks anyone else.
23:16
I'm quitting. Oh, he did.
23:18
I don't know if you quit. And honestly, I couldn't say
23:22
anything because I did understand where he was coming
23:25
from. A child who's coming from high
23:27
dimensionality with its pleading Syrian, Andromeda and especially
23:32
these new children, they are angels.
23:35
They are coming from this frequency of love.
23:38
Why force them to be violent when they can be the Champions
23:41
of non violence? Yeah.
23:47
And it's gonna take them saying that because what happens is
23:51
when we listen, that's why I feel like that's how we change
23:53
our children is being seen and heard.
23:55
Because you heard him when he said that, that doesn't feel
23:58
right. And that's what I tell people.
23:59
That's how trauma, that's how things, that's that intuition
24:02
we're given. When something feels yucky, it's
24:04
because it does not align with our true essence.
24:08
And that goes back to we are truly just love.
24:10
So anything outside of love is not going to feel good.
24:14
And that's that thing of teaching our children and
24:17
honoring that. He was able to identify.
24:19
I did not like the way misspelled because I don't like
24:22
inflicting pain on someone and it doesn't feel good and that's
24:26
how I've been all my life. 43 and I don't get it.
24:30
Sometimes I do now so I can't even imagine a child.
24:33
But I did not get why people bad things happen.
24:35
I did not get why people are mean to each other.
24:38
I've never put my hands on someone.
24:40
I can't even imagine doing that. And so those are those things of
24:44
that's not my frequency. And so I was more that I did the
24:48
addiction stuff. And so some of the children that
24:51
are more inwardly, they're the ones we're going to have to
24:53
watch out for because we almost take it, we do the suffering.
24:57
And so that's what happened to me was I didn't want to cause
25:00
pain to anyone else. I did it to myself.
25:02
And so those are the children that we have to really watch
25:05
because they're going to internalize it.
25:07
And when they don't know what's going on in the confusion and
25:11
the suicide and depression, it's because, like you said, Earth is
25:14
very dense and it's a lower energy they're not used to.
25:17
And so we have to be very kind and gentle to them because that
25:21
is very much a part of being here is that high and low.
25:26
But sometimes the lows are really hard for them when they
25:29
don't have the safe place and the parenting to help walk them
25:33
through that. And so I work with a lot of
25:36
clients that have struggled with depression and suicide.
25:39
And I've always told them, I think it's a beautiful sign,
25:42
meaning you are ready to kill something off.
25:44
You're ready to literally kill something off that's no longer
25:47
serving you. So if we stop shaming it, we
25:50
have the shame around suicide too, right?
25:53
And so again, we're shaming all the answers.
25:55
Talk to someone who is suicidal, It's because they were so
25:59
desperate to feel something different.
26:01
And so if we can just give them that other option and know
26:06
they're worthy of love. And so the people that are
26:08
depressed, I've been through all of that.
26:10
It's because you don't feel worthy.
26:12
And somewhere along the line, usually back to childhood,
26:16
almost all of it goes back to childhood, we were told, whether
26:20
told to our faces or not, a story that we weren't worthy or
26:24
we weren't good. And we're just connected from
26:27
source. That's the biggest thing.
26:29
We're born and we are given a name.
26:31
This is who you are. Instead of saying who would you
26:34
like to be? Or this is how God is, this is
26:37
how Jesus is, why don't we say, how does God feel to you?
26:41
Does God feel judgmental to you? Does he feel like he would cause
26:45
pain? Does he feel like he would make
26:47
children suffer? That's not how I feel.
26:50
All right. That's the and so it's those
26:52
things of we have to start asking these questions of not
26:56
talking about things, but what do they feel like?
27:00
What I always say, I don't want to read the book.
27:02
I want to be the book. That's that's what we have to
27:05
start doing is going from her head to our heart.
27:08
And so for me, plant medicine really helped me because it
27:12
removed the ego. It did that shadow work for me
27:15
because I was able to see it has a higher perspective and so I
27:20
had no attachments to it. And so that's that other thing
27:23
of we can start getting from our head to our heart and we can
27:26
start detaching from the ego. It makes life a whole lot
27:30
easier. Definitely.
27:32
I'm someone who went through the whole plant medicine journey for
27:35
many years. I've done the whole Ayawaska
27:38
route and I've been a medicine woman for a long time with
27:41
mushroom medicine. So I do understand how plant
27:44
medicine is wonderful tool for embodiment and I believe there
27:48
are so many other modalities without plant medicine that I
27:51
practice today. Breath work and the Leni
27:54
activation is so many ways to get into the body and shift from
27:58
being so much in the mind and looping into the heart, into the
28:02
body and really be present here. So with these children too, I
28:06
feel and with adults now we're at the age of AI and the age of
28:11
computers and gaming. So the escapism that I see is
28:15
also into that. Like I see my kid on Roblox, he
28:19
can sit hours on it because his mom, I can move through the
28:22
portal, jump around I and this and that.
28:24
Like I so much more fun there than here.
28:28
And I get that too. And so I think the other message
28:33
is that we need to also develop new programs for adults and
28:38
children to learn how to connect.
28:40
So it's not connection through necessarily escapism in
28:45
Internet, but like going out and need to really be here grounded
28:49
in this reality. Yeah, we need to start seeing
28:53
each other. That's the other thing these
28:56
children are learning. I'm going to get this instant
28:58
gratification. Let me see how I feel today by
29:01
how many likes I got on social media.
29:04
And so it's that instant thing of, oh, they're telling me how I
29:07
feel if I post a picture and I only get 5 likes versus 500.
29:11
What do you think that is programming into our children?
29:15
And then they're missing out on that human connection.
29:18
So then we have all the bullying because it's a lot easier to say
29:21
something mean to someone behind the screen versus through their
29:25
face. And so it's all these things
29:27
that we're starting to do. But the biggest one with
29:30
children is we are feeding them and putting all these toxic
29:33
things in their body and sugars and all these thing and then
29:36
we're planting them in a desk for 8 hours a day.
29:39
We're saying sit still. And then guess what happens when
29:42
they don't sit still? We don't say maybe we should
29:44
change the programming. We say, oh, let's give you a
29:47
pill and let's label you ADDADHD and we're just going to give you
29:52
a pill to make you sit here. And that's that insanity that
29:56
when we really stop and look at the system we created for our
29:59
children, it's like they are literally set up to fail.
30:03
They're set up to check out because we're making them sit
30:06
there and force a learning things that aren't really
30:09
helping them. I didn't go to college.
30:11
I tried. It was not for me.
30:13
That's why I became a coach because I didn't want to go get
30:15
a degree to help people. I was like, I can help people by
30:19
my story. Everything I've learned is from
30:22
yes, reading, but it's I lived my story.
30:24
I live my story. Like you said, the plant
30:27
medicine is just an aspect. I meditate, breath work,
30:30
movement, all of those things are the embodiment of the mind,
30:34
body and soul. And so my hope is we can start
30:37
just by looking at the system and seeing is that really
30:42
serving the purpose that it was set up for the system is?
30:46
So outdated the Rockefeller system that is meant to create
30:50
slaves out of us and and entrap us into the assembly line.
30:55
But we already know that these jobs are pretty much obsolete
31:01
with AI the way things are moving so rapidly right now.
31:06
Talking about college, I'm having conversation with my 12
31:09
year old that most likely he's not going to go to college, I
31:13
just told. My daughter, that too.
31:14
I was like, go study, go be abroad, go travel, go live life.
31:18
But it was that thing of that's what happened to me.
31:21
I went to college at 18. I know who I was.
31:24
And so we're asking our kids to do these hard things, but we're
31:28
not preparing them for them. So it's again, it's just like
31:31
school. We're setting them up for
31:33
failure. That is system that is not
31:35
working. It's not working and they have
31:38
to. Find their connection and what
31:39
excites them like what really brings them joy versus the way I
31:45
know my kid goes in the morning everyday he's oh, it's like
31:48
dreadful for him. It's like a going to a prison
31:51
and that's not really you know, an environment we want to give
31:54
them it's a hard place. I know more and more parents now
31:57
are homeschooling and there is a talk of development of these new
32:02
Earth schools, that scene popping a little bit here and
32:06
there, not a lot, but majority of us are still living typical
32:11
suburban life. So there's only so many moms
32:14
that can't do that. So I think the only thing we can
32:17
do in those like special moments outside of school and create
32:20
those environments for them and have those conversations with
32:23
them constantly. I think it's.
32:25
Like you just said, having the conversation, that's all.
32:28
Let's just look at it because for so long no one's wanting to
32:32
look at it. So let's just start looking at
32:34
how does it set up? Are we in environment setting up
32:38
creators? Because again, if we're creators
32:40
of our own universe, are we making creators or like you
32:43
said, are we making these slaves to this environment?
32:46
And so my big thing, I've also worked with people or through my
32:50
thing. When you have a spiritual
32:51
awakening, a spiritual remembering, that is so
32:54
important. But what I have found as well is
32:57
having a purpose is just as important.
33:01
And So what happens is when you have this spiritual awakening,
33:04
you're like, Oh my gosh, I get it.
33:05
And all this. Then you go through this moment
33:07
of now what? What's the point?
33:09
I always say it's like finding out Santa Claus is where, OK,
33:12
why is Christmas? And so that's what I had to go
33:14
through that thing. And then the point was whatever
33:17
you want to make it, whatever you want to make it, so you have
33:20
to know what moves your soul. And moving my soul was helping
33:24
people. And so it's that you got to have
33:26
your purpose. And so again, if we can create
33:28
this environment for children, like you said, if they have to
33:31
be in school, but maybe outside of school, helping them tap into
33:35
their special gifts because we all have them.
33:38
And imagine a society if we all used our special gifts and did
33:43
that not for the money. And so that's why I tell my
33:45
daughter, don't create a life because so don't create it out
33:49
of your I have a big home, so I have to have a job.
33:52
I have, I want a car, so I have to have a job.
33:54
So everything I'm doing is for that versus first what makes me
33:58
happy and then create a living out of it.
34:02
And that's what I did after my divorce.
34:04
I didn't couldn't, I didn't have a credit card in my name.
34:07
And now a year and a half, two couple years later, I have a
34:10
home in my name, I have a business, all these things that
34:13
I started with nothing but it was what moves my soul.
34:17
And once I did that, I get to literally make a living being my
34:22
most authentic self. And if that's not a gift in
34:26
itself, I don't know what else is.
34:28
And so that helps me every day to know I am following my true
34:32
path. And that's my hope for my
34:33
daughter and the children as they just follow their true path
34:36
of why they're here. Japanese.
34:38
Tradition, they talk about sole purpose as ikigai, and it's
34:43
already proven that when you have a sole purpose you can
34:46
actually increase your longevity.
34:49
So when they started the different centurions those 400
34:52
years and over in Blue zones around the world, they saw that
34:55
each one had a purpose, whether you somewhere in Sardinia near
35:01
Italy and you cooking dinner for your family or shepherd or in
35:07
the field, or you in Japan and Ikinawa and you gardening every
35:12
day. When they have that purpose, it
35:14
drives them forward. So I remember I had this
35:16
conversation with my mom. She was taken care of for my
35:19
niece and my nephew, and then she was ready to retire.
35:22
And I told my mom, like, you need ikigai.
35:24
So every morning when you wake up, you need to excite yourself
35:27
about what you're doing. So she start painting and
35:30
singing. And now she like does this
35:32
incredible Quay production. She's blooming in the way that
35:35
I've never seen. Whether you're a child or an
35:39
elder. God is so important.
35:41
I'm like, why are we here? Yeah, I love that.
35:43
Especially after retirement, because that's what happens.
35:46
A lot of people stop moving and get depressed after retirement.
35:49
That's why a lot of people work forever because they're scared
35:52
of The Who am I? And I had that thing when I got
35:55
divorced. I was like, I was just, I say
35:57
just, but I was a wife in a house at a mom housewife who was
36:02
I And that was a hard place to be at that I had nothing that
36:06
was giving me that purpose. And so that's that thing of that
36:09
gets you up out of bed. But after my spiritual
36:12
awakening, having that when I knew my purpose, but once I had
36:15
it, at first, it was what's the point?
36:17
And I remember that feeling of I had to really ground back in my
36:21
body. And that's another huge one.
36:22
After awakenings and all of that, you have to ground that.
36:25
You have to anchor that like heaven on earth because I could
36:29
stay up in the clouds and stay with spirit all day.
36:31
That's fun. It's kind of like what your son
36:33
said, that's fun. I would much rather be doing
36:35
that and talking to loved ones that have past and then
36:39
sometimes working with other humans that aren't so nice.
36:42
And so part of that is the grounding.
36:44
But it's finding that purpose of that that it helps you.
36:48
Because I remember the beginning, I was like, oh,
36:50
whatever. Now I thought about that.
36:52
I had that moment of if something happened to me, I'm OK
36:55
with death, but I don't want to leave yet because I haven't
36:58
finished my mission yet. And that was the shift of it
37:01
that I was like, I am supposed to be here.
37:04
And I really think for people that are depression and suicide,
37:07
if you had a mission and knew your purpose and how powerful
37:11
you were, you'd be the same way where you're like, Nope, I'm not
37:15
leaving yet. Because trust me, a long time
37:17
ago I'm like, this isn't fun, whatever.
37:19
Like I, this is too dense for me.
37:21
It's too mean. And now I'm like, Nope, this is
37:23
my purpose now. And so I want to be here.
37:27
And that is a big difference that shifted in my life.
37:30
I have to be here versus I want to be here.
37:32
And I know why I'm here. So powerful.
37:35
Making that commitment right to to be here and serve in the
37:38
highest good. We all volunteers, those who
37:41
listen to the show, they All Star seeds.
37:43
They resonate with this message and I'm sure many of us had
37:47
those days where we're like, Oh yeah, I want to go home.
37:50
But that home is they've been on this journey for many.
37:53
I call them the Ogs. They reincarnated on Earth many
37:56
times all the way from time of Atlantis and Lemuria.
38:00
And they've done this so many times in different densities of
38:03
Earth experience. And it can get very exhausted
38:07
when we trying to operate in the matrix.
38:09
But remembering that there was a reason why we decided you come
38:15
down for this experience and that was for this evolution.
38:18
Everything we're learning here, we also resonated to our other
38:22
higher aspects. We are helping the universe,
38:26
we're helping the Galaxy 2 by learning all of this stuff here.
38:30
So So how could someone find you, Shannon, and find your
38:35
books? Yeah, they can go on my.
38:37
Website it's www.angelgoddesshealing.com and
38:42
the books is on there. They can find it on Amazon
38:44
pretty much anywhere books are sold.
38:46
So yeah, they can go on there and see my services and what
38:49
ioffer and then yeah, do the book and find me there in social
38:53
media. I'm still I'm starting up on
38:54
that, but definitely on the website.
38:56
It has all of my information and you also.
38:58
Do mediumship. You were mentioning that
39:01
sometimes you interact with the other side.
39:04
How? Oh yes.
39:05
For sure it happened. I've always had that in my
39:08
family, my cousin that's been her living for 20 plus years.
39:12
And so I've always had that sensitivity that that gift, but
39:15
I never understood it. And so after again, my spiritual
39:19
awakening, it was tenfold. And it was one day, it was like
39:22
10 out of a 10, but it started because I was feeling it and I
39:26
had faced my fear and I went to the gym one day and I kept
39:29
feeling it all week. And I was like, just go do it,
39:31
Just go do it, Just go do it. And I walked up to the lady and
39:34
I said, do you have a grandma of whose past?
39:36
And she, yes, I said, and you have a daughter?
39:39
Yes. And she's like, how do you know
39:40
that? She's I'm over there at my desk
39:42
and she goes, I have my grandmother's cards everywhere,
39:45
all her love letters. And it was that thing.
39:47
And all of a sudden there's like you believe I was like, and I
39:51
just got, and it was like coming out of me and I didn't even know
39:55
where. And so it was a 10 out of 10 to
39:57
where wherever I went, I just couldn't turn it off.
40:00
And then I. I learned how to turn it down.
40:02
But what I love most, my stuff, I still do mediumship clients,
40:06
but most of mine, I call it intuitive coaching because it's
40:09
all beautiful to talk to loved ones and our spirit guides, but
40:11
how do you integrate them in your life?
40:13
And So what I love is the coaching part of it.
40:16
So when I'm talking to you and say you're a client and you're
40:18
struggling with something, I'll get a little download.
40:21
Or maybe it's your past dad that maybe you had some issues with
40:25
and you don't really want to talk about it.
40:26
And so I'll get this little download and I'll say, tell me
40:29
about this or this and then before you know it.
40:32
And so that's why I like the intuitive coaching because if I
40:35
trust this is not for me and that's always tell people this
40:38
is not for me. I literally am good in my life.
40:40
I'm doing this to help other people as well.
40:43
And so it's a channel. It's not coming from my ego.
40:46
I really try to do the work. That's a big other piece of I
40:50
think people in the space really need to do the shadow work, the
40:52
ego work because in order to keep it clean channel, I have to
40:56
make sure my side of the streets clean.
40:58
And so for me meditating every night and my partner and we
41:01
talked about the masculine, the feminine, I have to have that
41:04
balance within me. He has to have his masculine
41:07
feminine balance within him. And then we come together AS2
41:11
already whole people. And so that's the that important
41:14
stuff that every night we meditate, we end our day with
41:17
that like bookends, we end begin with the gratitude and the end
41:20
is checking in with ourselves, making sure we're good.
41:24
And once I do that, I can continue and my gifts open up
41:28
because I'm a channel now and it's coming through me.
41:32
And so that is probably one of the best things I love about my
41:35
work is getting these little downloads from Spirit.
41:38
And I feel like I have a little extra something because I'm
41:41
getting these things that they're telling me to ultimately
41:44
help the person I resonate. A lot with all of it.
41:49
I think anyone who has their channel open can do all of it,
41:52
even myself included. I never thought of it myself as
41:55
a medium and I had an experience a year or so ago where basically
42:00
was contacted by spirit to heal someone else, actually someone
42:05
from 911. That was unexpected.
42:07
But I feel anyone who's in the field and doing the work and
42:11
being really connected to the source in the higher self, like
42:15
everything is available for us. The veil is so thin these days
42:19
and it's just a matter of trust in your gifts.
42:22
A lot of us built this negative belief and I was one of them
42:25
that oh, like you have to be born with this.
42:27
Like this is something that's only available if you're born
42:30
with this or you come from family of mediums or no, that's
42:35
not true. And you know that it's like we
42:37
all have that. As long as we allow that ego to
42:41
step aside a bed or do this beautiful dance with the divine
42:46
will, It's not like ego is completely gone.
42:50
And that's beauty of this experience.
42:51
We can have the individuation and we understand it, but I love
42:55
your practices too. That's such a nice way to finish
42:59
the day with your partner and really bring it together and
43:01
start your day with intention. And this is really beautiful way
43:06
to be constantly connected or reminded how to stay connected.
43:11
I'm doing that with a partner, with a inspiring thing I tell
43:14
people. Too, It doesn't have to be so
43:16
intimidating. So when clients come at 1st and
43:18
they get a little bit like we're going to meditate, it's just
43:21
music and we pick all different kinds.
43:23
See there's all different kinds that invoke different things.
43:26
And so we just sit and do that and however it is.
43:29
And so sometimes people think meditation is just so solemn and
43:32
no thoughts. It's not that, it's not fighting
43:35
the thoughts, it's just saying I am a human like surrendering to
43:39
it. And then when you surrender to
43:41
it, when you're sitting there, don't think that's when you're
43:43
going to get all that. It's just the listen to the
43:45
music that's always try to say become the frequency of the
43:48
music. Don't hear it, feel it.
43:51
And that is the different our thoughts are from our brain, our
43:55
feelings are from our heart. We feel and so meditation is
43:58
supposed to be like that, whereas you start out that way,
44:01
but it's tapping in doing that body, that internal selfie,
44:05
where am I feeling this? And that is that mind, body,
44:07
soul of tapping into that but it's a kind way of doing it.
44:11
And so it's just a beautiful gift that I never thought I'd be
44:14
doing that every night. And I miss it.
44:16
I'll sometimes get home at 10:00 at night and I'll come in my
44:20
office and meditate because if I don't, I feel it.
44:24
I feel off. And so that's where all my
44:26
spirits and that's where I feel. That's where I go back home.
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You said that homesickness when we're missing that longing,
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they're just waiting for us. They're there, they're always
44:36
around us. And so it's just creating that
44:39
space, that container to quiet the mind and remember.
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And that's what I always say every night when I meditate,
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that's when I remember who I am and that's why I'm doing the
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work I'm doing. Because every night when I sit
44:52
in spirit, I remember and there is nothing better.
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No one can take that away from me.
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And that's the power that I found is I hold the power within
45:01
me and all I have to do is create the space to set the ego
45:06
aside a little bit. I've learned that the ego used
45:09
to drive my car and now I said no, you're in the car, but I'm
45:13
just going to put you in the passive.
45:14
Seat you get. To do all the other stuff, yeah,
45:17
you can do the radio, you can decorate it, you can pick out
45:20
What Car it is, what color. But guess what?
45:22
My higher self, it knows best. It's going to be the driver.
45:27
And so a lot of times in meditation, I will literally
45:29
feel my ego, commit and I just do this.
45:32
Nope. And it's like, Nope kind of
45:33
thing. And my partner taught me that
45:34
where it's just just slide them right out and say, I'll get to
45:37
you in a second. You're important.
45:39
That's the difference is you're still important ego, but you're
45:42
just not in the driver's seat. You're going to be in the
45:45
passenger seat, but you're still in the vehicle of this body.
45:49
And those are those little shifts that if we just start
45:52
shifting those perspectives, it changes.
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I love that because. That's literally what I spend
45:57
all the time when I teach channel in as well.
46:00
And some are like conscious channelists where they
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completely sleep out. I'm thinking like Bashar, who
46:06
like completely allows and some of us more like present, but the
46:10
ego, if you don't Kick It Out, it's not even fighting because
46:13
it's learning. Now I'm present, I'm observing
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and I'm learning through this experience too.
46:19
And it's it's really such a gift to to be able to be that divine
46:24
instrument on earth. And I think that's what we're
46:26
here to do, is to be that for ourselves, for others.
46:30
And so beautifully said about the empowering aspect of it is
46:34
really stepping into the power and self love to really own it
46:38
and be it because we are that. And yeah, if everyone on Earth
46:44
did this work and accepted the fact that they are angels and
46:48
there's no fixed and that's needed, then we would be in
46:51
completely different reality. Can't you imagine, like I do
46:55
imagine that and I was just that is the space I go to and my
47:00
daughter and I remember one time that I was having this talk with
47:05
my partner because he's like, you got to teach her these
47:07
things and watching out for people.
47:08
And I remember like soul crying where I was like, but I believe
47:12
in this place that it can. I was like, I truly believe in
47:16
every fiber of my being. If you do the work and just like
47:19
you said about the intuitive stuff, we actually we are born
47:23
with it. We're all born with it.
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We just forget. That's all.
47:27
We just forget how to tap into it.
47:29
It's the trauma and it's all ties back into the trauma.
47:33
That's how we forget. And all my gifts only came
47:36
online once I removed that blanket of trauma that wanted me
47:40
to forget my power. And that's that divine feminine,
47:43
that womb that that we create life, we create life.
47:47
Like literally life cannot go on with all those women.
47:50
So it's like, why are we sitting back saying these things are OK
47:55
when we ultimately have the power?
47:57
But that's that shift of we have to remember they tricked us to
48:01
think that they have the power. It's all within us.
48:05
And so that's my big thing is women and women standing up.
48:08
It's just reclaiming the power that has always been ours.
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It's always been ours. It's just we forgot about it and
48:16
we were scared. We lived too many lifetimes.
48:19
We had too many times that we were sacrificed for our gifts.
48:23
And so I know my intuitive gifts, but I'm with a partner
48:26
who knows it and he appreciates it and he cherishes it and loves
48:31
it that he knows I can tap into spirit and it is a powerful
48:35
thing that is that sacred masculine, divine that he helped
48:39
me find my masculine because I need it.
48:42
That masculine is what wrote my book.
48:43
The females What like thought about it and all that.
48:46
The feminine, the masculine is the doer.
48:48
I need that, I need that. But he needed the feminine.
48:51
And so it's that balance of we just got to get it back to
48:54
balance. And right now to be, it feels
48:57
like Mother Earth is out of balance.
48:59
She's not happy and she's saying, and that's with all
49:03
these Earth quakes and floods. Things are happening.
49:06
Those floods are hurt here. It's like shifting.
49:08
That is what it is. Things are changing because they
49:12
are not sustainable. But that's the messages I've
49:15
gotten from Mother Earth is she's not happy.
49:19
And that's how I feel. And I'm going to turn my pain
49:22
into purpose, but it's ready to change.
49:25
It's so. Special to be in a relationship
49:27
with a partner who speaks the same language and I'm in that
49:31
type of divine union for 10 years and I can't even imagine
49:35
otherwise because we've been empowering each other and
49:37
learning through this beautiful dance of divine feminine, divine
49:40
masculine. I really hold that template and
49:45
I always have since we been together and beautiful twin
49:49
flame wedding we had for other partners to come together and to
49:52
divine unions and really help each other to rebalance this
49:56
equation that you're talking about because that is also so
50:00
much needed. These relationships that are
50:01
broken and that based not so much on this balance, but the
50:07
overpowerment and this is the time where you know that old
50:11
programming or the need to suppress our power as a feminine
50:14
is dark ages. The witch trials.
50:18
We did that in some ways to ourselves because it was not
50:22
safe times. I often also work with drama,
50:26
with people, but energetic blocks and I see them like in
50:30
the fields, all tied to those timelines.
50:33
It's like these implants that we put for ourselves until it was
50:36
the right time to unplug it. And now the power is coming in
50:39
when one is accepted. And with Mother Earth too, I
50:42
feel it's like you said, it's shifting, but she's too waking
50:47
up. She's too at that age, like 15
50:52
and she she needs. To.
50:54
Release all that energy and she's getting super activate
50:57
right now with all these soul activities comments should have
51:01
happened in October. All this interstellar object, a
51:06
lot is happening. And so she's a release, she's
51:09
purging. Yes, it's I.
51:11
Always say trauma has to come up to come out and that's what it
51:14
is because when something's not sustainable, something has to
51:18
give. It's just like with addiction,
51:20
alcohol, suicide, say whatever, we are going to reach out
51:23
because it's not sustainable to live out of balance.
51:27
And that's what people aren't understanding when you live in
51:30
balance. Look at Mother Nature.
51:32
If you take humans outside of Mother nature's the perfect
51:35
balance. It knows when to rain, it knows
51:38
the sun, the trees have all these roots.
51:40
They talk, the animals are, it's not cruel, but they have a
51:44
killing that like animals have an understanding of.
51:47
They have to eat. You have to eat the plants.
51:49
There's this beautiful thing, but they don't take it
51:51
personally. You hurt my feelings.
51:53
You killed my partner. Animals don't do that.
51:56
They live in the present. We bring all this emotion to it.
51:59
And so I've just really studied Mother Earth and when I say
52:03
studied just watching around me and I will sit there and just
52:06
watch birds or a cat watch a prey and all that.
52:09
It's not like cruelty. It's because they pray and watch
52:12
for that perfect moment, that perfect opportunity so that
52:15
animal doesn't suffer. And so it's all those things
52:18
that they literally give us all the answers.
52:22
We have water for free. We pay for water, electricity,
52:25
land, and we pay for land. And then we live on land that
52:28
could grow fruit, food, and we pay for food.
52:32
It's this whole thing of back to everything is able to sustain
52:38
us, but we just have to stop doing this.
52:41
What's mine and yours and this and that's that.
52:43
We're out of balance. We're making it from the ego and
52:46
the power and greed and we put all our power and money.
52:49
I truly feel like that. And I feel like money is just an
52:52
exchange of energy. But we have given it so much
52:55
power that everybody is motivated by more and more.
52:58
The bigger house, the stores, how many food, how many things.
53:02
And it's like we have to simplify it.
53:04
Life is actually so simple and the answers are really simple.
53:09
And we like to complicate it because it makes it more
53:12
exciting because then it's like suffering in this big movie and
53:16
theatrical movie. And I'm like, no, I don't want
53:19
to play that movie part. No, I don't want to do that.
53:22
I want to just do like the love and the light.
53:24
And yeah, there are some places for the boundaries and the
53:27
firmness, but ultimately we're just love.
53:31
We're just love. It's all so beautiful.
53:35
And made that reality eventually recalibrate itself into a higher
53:41
octave. I really see that playing out
53:43
for us as long as many of us, you, myself and everyone who's
53:48
awakening and is holding that reality and choosing that
53:51
timeline. Like we get to choose.
53:53
We get to not consent to what's not serving us and we get to
53:56
decide and choose the timeline that really is serving us.
54:00
And I think we are in that moment of influx right now, zero
54:04
point where we do get to take that train, right?
54:08
And we headed that direction. So beautiful.
54:11
Thank you, Shannon, for all your beautiful wisdom and everything
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you do. And looking forward to your new
54:18
books that are coming out. Sounds like a whole series
54:20
there. Yes, thank you so much for
54:23
having me and I always say just giving me the space to share my
54:27
story, but just to be seen and heard and I always see like my
54:30
little 4 year old self thanks you because my book that's in
54:34
the honor of my 4 year old self and so it's always such a
54:37
beautiful thing to tell her your story matters, the pain that you
54:40
went through because me Shannon 43 old I'm good, but that 4 year
54:44
old sometimes I have to remind her, hey, that story that you
54:47
went through guess what I got you and it's going to give me
54:50
space. So thank you for letting me
54:52
share that the way I usually. And my workshop, energetic
54:56
workshop. I say give a hug to your little
54:59
1. So I want you, Shannon, to give
55:01
a hug to your 4 year old and tell her I thank you, I love you
55:06
and I thank you. I love you and anyone who's
55:08
listening, give a hug to your little one, your 4 year old, and
55:11
thank them and love them for they are magnificently beautiful
55:14
in you at that too. Thank you.
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Thank you everyone for tuning in.