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The Insiders Podcast: Biggest Questions in the NFC West, Cardinals TE Trey McBride, and All-Rookie Team Predictions · NFL Game Previews

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Brian Boldinger, I am
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Tom Pellisero and Baldi. I am fired up tonight, not
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: just because we've got seventy two days to kickoff of
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four regular season, but one month from today,
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: the last of the thirty two teams hit the field
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: for training camp. Are you with me, bald are you
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  Speaker 1: ready to do this?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 3: I know this today Tom, in the East Coast today
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: temperatures hit triple digits. When the temperatures get the triple digits,
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  Speaker 3: we know training camp and the hydration efforts are right behind.
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  Speaker 3: So the weather is right, the football should be right
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  Speaker 3: around the corner.
• 0:44
  Speaker 4: We all got a hydrate.
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  Speaker 1: That includes Cardinals tight end Trey McBride, who is going
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: to be on the show tonight. Is he buying into
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: the Kyler Murray MVP talk. We'll ask him that and
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: a whole lot more. Also, of the latest on Brandon
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: Ayuk's situation, his meeting with the forty nine ers, we'll
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: get to some bang look at some bucks, Baldio, breakdown
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: some top rookies.
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  Speaker 4: But if you've.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: Noticed a distinct NFC West flair across NFL network today,
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: it's because Geno Smith has been programming the network, it's
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  Speaker 1: his player's choice. It rolls on after this show, looking
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: back at twenty twenty two Week one, the Broncos versus
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks, loft a football life on Warren Moon, throwbacks
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  Speaker 1: on Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, a whole lot more
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: the current NFC West, including Geno Smith, Seahawks seventy five
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: days away from kickoff Seattle once again. What do you
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  Speaker 1: know facing the Broncos this time in Seattle, Cardinals at
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: the Bills, Rams at Lions, the Stafford Bull or Stafford
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  Speaker 1: golf ball. I guess as it were on Sunday Night
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: Football that week, Jets at forty nine Ers. Wrapping up
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  Speaker 1: the Week one slate, as we bring in more of
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  Speaker 1: our friends here, Bridget Condon as well as Omar Ruiz.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk some more NFC West guys. Bridget and I
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  Speaker 1: want to start in Seattle, where so much is new.
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  Speaker 1: They had that run with Pete Carroll. They were perpetually
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  Speaker 1: in the hunt. They won a super Bowl, they went
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: to another super Bowl. They were in the playoffs here
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  Speaker 1: after year. Now Mike McDonald comes in. We had him
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  Speaker 1: on the show recently. A lot of unknowns about this team.
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  Speaker 1: If we're talking about the biggest question Bridget's running the
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Seahawks.
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  Speaker 5: What is Well, when you look at this defense, right,
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  Speaker 5: Pete Carroll has made this defense what it is for years.
• 2:25
  Speaker 5: He's no longer there. Bobby Wagner Jordan Brooks, two guys
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  Speaker 5: who are the only two guys that were on the
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  Speaker 5: Seahawks since twenty twenty that had one hundred or more
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  Speaker 5: tackles in a season. That's no longer there. So what
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  Speaker 5: is this defense going to look like with new head
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  Speaker 5: coach Mike McDonald. What is the interior line going to
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  Speaker 5: look like on this defense? Well, I talk to some
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  Speaker 5: people in the organization today and they feel like from
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  Speaker 5: a coverage perspective, defending the middile of the middle of
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  Speaker 5: the field, they feel like they've improved drastically. So all
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  Speaker 5: eyes are going to be on two guys they got
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  Speaker 5: this offseason, Tyrell Dodson from the Bills, who had a
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  Speaker 5: career high in tackles last season with Buffalo, and Jerome Baker,
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  Speaker 5: who was with the Dolphins last season also had a
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  Speaker 5: career high in terms of interceptions for Miami last season.
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  Speaker 5: All eyes are going to be on those guys and
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  Speaker 5: that defense come training camp and talking with people in
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks organization. Both those guys have played Green Dot.
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  Speaker 5: They really believe that they're going to have a big impact,
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  Speaker 5: and they believe they've addressed the losses of Bobby Wagner
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  Speaker 5: and Jordan Brooks.
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  Speaker 4: So it'll be really.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting to see Baldy how that defense looks come a
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  Speaker 5: month away.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, Bridge, if you go back to last year,
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  Speaker 3: you know Week seventeen, they're right in the playoff hunt
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  Speaker 3: and the Steelers come to town and they just run the
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  Speaker 3: ball right down their throats and they scored thirty points
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  Speaker 3: on them, and they knocked them out of the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, things just steamrolled from there.
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  Speaker 2: But they gutted this defense.
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  Speaker 3: You talked about Bobby Wagner, Jordan Brooks, but it was
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  Speaker 3: Quandary Diggs, it was Jamal Adams.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they gutted the middle of this.
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  Speaker 3: And so you know, Mike McDonald comes in along with
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  Speaker 3: Leslie Fraser and he says, all right, let's take a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of what we did in Baltimore be his
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  Speaker 3: zone team. We we'll disguise will match up in our zones,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's Cover two or Cover three, We'll match up
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  Speaker 3: and we'll make the quarterback hold the ball. And if
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  Speaker 3: we get them to hold the ball, boye Mafe, some
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  Speaker 3: of these pass rushers Leonard Williams will let them get
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  Speaker 3: after the quarterback like they did in Baltimore. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that's kind of the plan right now with some
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  Speaker 3: new faces, and because I think the secondary still has
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  Speaker 3: a chance to be very, very good. Devin Witherspoon is
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  Speaker 3: going to be a star in this defense. He's going
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  Speaker 3: to be like their Kyle Hamilton was in Baltimore. This
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  Speaker 3: guy's got all the skills to line up anywhere, to
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  Speaker 3: match up, to hit, to take the ball away. I
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  Speaker 3: expect a lot of changes from this defense in Seattle
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  Speaker 3: this year.
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  Speaker 1: Bridget Omar, you're there in Arizona. We're gonna have Trey
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  Speaker 1: McBride talking with us in just a little bit here.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: He's got a question. He caught eighty one balls last season,
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  Speaker 1: even though most of the country never saw it.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't play on prime time.
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  Speaker 1: They were the best four win team, most entertaining four
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  Speaker 1: win team that I can remember. Year two, completely different expectations.
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  Speaker 1: What's the biggest question on that Cardinals team.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I want to see how this defense, which was
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  Speaker 6: so young in twenty twenty three, matures in Jonathan Gannon's
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  Speaker 6: second year. You talked about how energetic they played and
• 5:13
  Speaker 6: how hard that they played, and they were noted for that,
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  Speaker 6: credited for that, but they also played so young, more
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  Speaker 6: defensive snaps taken by rookies from the Cardinals than any
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  Speaker 6: other team in the NFL last year. Guys like Garrett
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  Speaker 6: Williams and Bjojulari expected to have significant roles this season.
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  Speaker 6: You also have to remember that this Cardinals team was
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  Speaker 6: third to the last in the NFL in sacks. So
• 5:36
  Speaker 6: you have a guy like Zaban Collins, who did not
• 5:39
  Speaker 6: get his fifth year option picked up coming into year four,
• 5:42
  Speaker 6: trying to build out those five and a half sacks.
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  Speaker 6: Buddha Baker, can he regain his star status? So those
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  Speaker 6: are all questions for this Cardinals defense. Reminds me a lot,
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  Speaker 6: Baldy of the Rams in twenty twenty two, who were
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  Speaker 6: rebuilding after the Super Bowl season. They had injuries, they
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  Speaker 6: had a lot of young guys play, and then in
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  Speaker 6: twenty three they matured and they all came together and
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  Speaker 6: they became a playoff defense. So I'm curious to see
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  Speaker 6: if the Cardinals can do the same thing and really
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  Speaker 6: elevate here one season after playing so many young players.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Omar, when you talk about young players, it
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  Speaker 3: also is the defensive coordinator who is.
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  Speaker 2: The youngest in the league in Nick Rayalis.
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  Speaker 3: He's got in front of mine and he got the
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  Speaker 3: job when he was twenty eight years old.
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  Speaker 2: But he's qualified.
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  Speaker 3: And so you know, you talk about you know, Garrett
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  Speaker 3: Williams last year and b O Jilar they were drafted
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  Speaker 3: at the top of the draft this last year. This year,
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: Darius Robinson comes in from Missouri, Max Meltin the second
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  Speaker 3: round pick out of Rutgers. I mean, they're building this
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  Speaker 3: team kind of piece by piece from the inside. Remember,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because here White came in with Jonathan Gannon
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  Speaker 3: from Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: He played great, really great until he got hurt.
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  Speaker 3: One thing, Omar, that I would challenge anybody because, like
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  Speaker 3: Tom just said, a lot of people didn't watch these
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  Speaker 3: Cardinals team play.
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  Speaker 2: They play hard. They I mean, the Eagles found.
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  Speaker 3: That out, you know, the Steelers found that out last year,
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  Speaker 3: the Cowboys found that out, the Ravens found it out.
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  Speaker 3: This team played for Nick it played for Jonathan again.
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  Speaker 3: Now let's just start adding some talent to it, because
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the effort is there. They kind of
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: turned this thing around bridging here in La. You spent
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  Speaker 3: a lot of time around the Rams. Obviously there's one
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  Speaker 3: big change with that team. Aaron Donald no longer their
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  Speaker 3: biggest question in your mind about the twenty twenty four Rams.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, every defensive coach everywhere is like celebrating right now.
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  Speaker 5: We're talking so much about defense.
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  Speaker 4: When does that ever happen?
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  Speaker 5: I guess it's a good sign that the NFC West
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  Speaker 5: doesn't typically really this season have quarterback issues. But what
• 7:34
  Speaker 5: is this Rams defense going to look like without Aaron Donald? Look,
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  Speaker 5: there's no plug in play here, right, he doesn't leave,
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  Speaker 5: and you get a guy who's going to come in
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  Speaker 5: and make the same impact that Aaron Donald had both
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  Speaker 5: on and off the field.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: He was a big voice in the locker room. Not
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  Speaker 5: necessarily one of the guys that was shouting all the time,
• 7:50
  Speaker 5: but people looked up to him. I was talking to
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  Speaker 5: Cooper cup up at mini camp last month and he
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  Speaker 5: even joked and said, we still have his locker up
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  Speaker 5: and ready just in case he wants to come back.
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  Speaker 5: But one guy who we're going to talk a lot
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  Speaker 5: about this season is Kobe Turner. He was a rookie
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  Speaker 5: last season for the Rams, and I talked with him
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  Speaker 5: during that season, and he told me that he used
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  Speaker 5: to show up to work at the Rams like so excited,
• 8:12
  Speaker 5: like a little kid getting to work with Aaron Donald
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  Speaker 5: and learn from him. And one of the things that
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  Speaker 5: he did last season is he learned so much. He
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  Speaker 5: asked him everything that he could and he finished with
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  Speaker 5: an incredible rookie season, a big part of the Rams' success.
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  Speaker 5: Now he's going to take what he learned from Aaron
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  Speaker 5: Donald and do the same thing with the rookies. This
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  Speaker 5: team understands though, it's going to be a collective effort, Baldy,
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  Speaker 5: you know that it's not just going to be one
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  Speaker 5: guy fills the hole. They all have to step up
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  Speaker 5: their game a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: No question about it, Bridget, you know, And so you
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  Speaker 3: talked about Kobe Turner. He was a third round pick
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  Speaker 3: last year along with Byron you know, the third round
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  Speaker 3: pick together under you know, Aaron just kind of tootling
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  Speaker 3: these guys. They had seventeen combined sacks and then for
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  Speaker 3: the first time in eight years, they get a first
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  Speaker 3: round pick and they go spend it on Jared Verse,
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: and they were so excited about that Bridget they said, well,
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  Speaker 3: let's make the phone call to Florida State first second
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  Speaker 3: round pick and Brandon Fisk. And so you start rekindling
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  Speaker 3: this defensive line with young talent and the fact that
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  Speaker 3: Aaron was such a leader in his own way that
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  Speaker 3: they understand the work ethic, they understand what time it
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  Speaker 3: takes to get into the building in the weight room.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the young guys kind of learned and
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  Speaker 3: now they'll kind of transport that. I mean, these two
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  Speaker 3: guys played next to each other at Florida State last year,
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  Speaker 3: both Fisk and Birse.
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  Speaker 2: They fed each other. They play so well.
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  Speaker 3: Together in their combination of stunts and all those things
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  Speaker 3: in twist that they do upfront. Nobody's going to replace
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Donald, we know that, but I tell you they
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  Speaker 3: got some good young studs to work with. And every defense,
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: every team is trying to get younger and more talented.
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  Speaker 3: And I believe that's what the Rams have done over
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  Speaker 3: the last two years.
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  Speaker 7: Omar.
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  Speaker 1: That brings us to the team that's won that division
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. The San Francisco forty nine
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  Speaker 1: ers oh so close once again with another Lombardi Trophy
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  Speaker 1: into their case.
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  Speaker 4: In your mind twenty two twenty four forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 4: what's the biggest a question for them? How that defense
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  Speaker 4: comes together?
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  Speaker 6: Last year, Tom was the first time that the forty
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  Speaker 6: nine ers defense fell out of the top five in
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  Speaker 6: total defense since twenty eighteen. So Steve Wilkes out as
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  Speaker 6: defensive coordinator Nick Sorenson in who had been part of
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  Speaker 6: the staff since twenty twenty two, and see how it
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  Speaker 6: comes together now.
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  Speaker 4: Fred Warner said that Nick Sorenson is a born.
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  Speaker 6: Leader made for this job, and Helenoa Hufunga saying that
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  Speaker 6: Sorenson's teaching style is very similar to what Demko Ryans
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  Speaker 6: led with the energy and the competitive spirit with which
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  Speaker 6: he taught. So that has to come together for that
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  Speaker 6: forty nine er defense. And there's also the personnel changes
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  Speaker 6: that we've seen, Eric Armstead out, Cleveland Ferrell out, Javon
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  Speaker 6: Kinlaw out, the likes of Leonard Floyd.
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  Speaker 4: Emily Collins in.
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  Speaker 6: Not to mention when you mentioned Hufonga, he's coming back
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  Speaker 6: from that significant knee injury. We also saw Dre Greenlaw
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  Speaker 6: Terror's achilles in the Super Bowl. He's midway through that rehab.
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  Speaker 6: The timetable for his return is uncertain. So a lot
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  Speaker 6: of question marks for that forty nine Ers defense, as
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  Speaker 6: were one month out from training him to be answered
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  Speaker 6: for a team that has Super Bowl aspirations year in
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  Speaker 6: and year out.
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  Speaker 2: This year no different, Baldy, all good points on mar
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  Speaker 2: and all true.
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  Speaker 3: And I think this defense, you know, going back to
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  Speaker 3: when Robert Solo was the defensive line coach and coordinator
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  Speaker 3: and Demiko Ryans, this thing has always been led by
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  Speaker 3: the front four, and quite honestly, they weren't very good
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  Speaker 3: last year. That's why all the changes on the defensive
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  Speaker 3: line had taken place. And even Nick Post had just
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  Speaker 3: told me last week week before last time I saw him,
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  Speaker 3: he was like, look, I got signed on Friday before
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  Speaker 3: our first game.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have an offseason.
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  Speaker 3: I never got a chance to work with Javon Hardgrave
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  Speaker 3: upfront and worked with our time again, our stunts. He
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  Speaker 3: feels like the fact that he had the off season
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  Speaker 3: he was able to work with these guys, he said,
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  Speaker 3: Leonard Floyd got a lot of juice. You know, this
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  Speaker 3: is a guy that four years in a row. Now
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  Speaker 3: he's averaged ten sacks, a lot of quarterback hits, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of tackle for losses. I don't they Nick truly
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: had a guy opposite him like that. And then you know,
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  Speaker 3: Drake Jackson had about a month last year before he
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  Speaker 3: just disappeared and was injured. I think he's got a
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  Speaker 3: big future in this thing. So I feel like if
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  Speaker 3: this forty nine Ers defense is gonna get better, two
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  Speaker 3: things have to happen. They have to play better up
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  Speaker 3: front on the front four, and I think they will omar.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other thing is I think they have
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  Speaker 2: to affect the quarterback more.
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  Speaker 3: I know the O the twenty two interceptions, it was
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  Speaker 3: tied for the league lead, but I think blitzing, the
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  Speaker 3: style of blitzing, I think it has to be more
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  Speaker 3: than just relying on the front four to affect quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 3: especially in big games or maybe like that Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: against Mahome.
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  Speaker 1: One other pretty big questions for the forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 1: They report to training camp like a lot of teams
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  Speaker 1: on July twenty third. Will Brandon Ayuk be there after
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: he skipped mini camp. Here's what I can tell you
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  Speaker 1: Ayuk and forty nine Ers Brass met on Monday at
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Ayuk's request. This was a good meeting for what I
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  Speaker 1: was told. Both sides said things that needed to be said,
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  Speaker 1: and they're gonna keep working. It's important to note here
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: there's never been a trade request from Brandon Ayuk. That
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  Speaker 1: hasn't changed. The forty nine ers stance hasn't changed either,
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  Speaker 1: despite getting trade calls on Ayuk going back to draft week.
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  Speaker 1: They're moving forward and they want Ayuk to be a
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  Speaker 1: part of the team in twenty twenty four. So what
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  Speaker 1: I would anticipate here is all parties involved will go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and enjoy the fourth of July holiday regroup Sometime
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  Speaker 1: after that, They've still got several weeks here to see
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: if they can hammer out a deal that locks in
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  Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk with San Francisco for the long haul. Bridget Omarbaldi,
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  Speaker 1: thank you don't move a muscle. Coming up after this
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  Speaker 1: are Sarah Walsh down in Tampa's going to be here,
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  Speaker 1: talk about some defensive players for the Bucks, Mike Raid
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  Speaker 1: to break out in twenty twenty four, and a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot more coming up after this On the Insiders, Let's
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: bring in our Sarah Walsh as well as our friend
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger as well. Talk a little bit about that
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Buccaneers team, Sarah. We talked so much about the offense
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  Speaker 1: with obviously Baker and Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, the
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: guys that have been the Rashad White. How me about
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. We know Todd Bowles
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  Speaker 1: loves his defense. Who are some guys that you're watching
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four that maybe could end up being
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: breakout candidates?
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  Speaker 8: Well, Tom, it's always been really well known what a
• 14:28
  Speaker 8: Todd Bowles defense can do. But I think what's flown
• 14:31
  Speaker 8: a little bit under the raidar, at least nationally, is
• 14:33
  Speaker 8: a pair of guys that were rookies last year in
• 14:35
  Speaker 8: Colijah Canzi and Yaya Diabi. Kanzi a defensive lineman, Diabi
• 14:40
  Speaker 8: an outside linebacker, And part of the reason they went
• 14:42
  Speaker 8: a little bit under the radar last year is because
• 14:45
  Speaker 8: they didn't really find their footing until halfway through. Kansey
• 14:48
  Speaker 8: suffered an injury in training camp, didn't really get going
• 14:51
  Speaker 8: until week six, but then he was the NFL Defensive
• 14:54
  Speaker 8: Rookie of the Month in November and he had ten
• 14:57
  Speaker 8: tackles for a loss. That's second month rookies only to
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: his teammate yah Ya Diab, who then wound up starting
• 15:04
  Speaker 8: the last nine games this season for the Buccaneers. Diaby
• 15:08
  Speaker 8: had seven and a half sacks to lead Tampa Bay.
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  Speaker 8: These two together combine their numbers twenty quarterback hit, fifty
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  Speaker 8: nine quarterback pressures, eleven and a half sacks, and they
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  Speaker 8: were really just getting started. As the sense there when
• 15:21
  Speaker 8: I talked to Kancy recently and I said, what's going
• 15:24
  Speaker 8: to be the biggest difference between year one and year
• 15:26
  Speaker 8: two for you? And he said, total domination. He feels like,
• 15:30
  Speaker 8: he said, double digit sacks is a muss. He talked
• 15:33
  Speaker 8: about Diabi just being absolutely relentless. So I think this
• 15:37
  Speaker 8: is a pair if people had had seen them from
• 15:40
  Speaker 8: week one, if they were able to go week one,
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: which they weren't, there was that rookie learning curve, there
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: was injuries. These two really got it going late in
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: the year. And if they can continue that upward trend
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: that people in Tampa Bay really saw, I believe that
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: Tampa Bay's defense can only get better. And as you know, Baldy,
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: that has always been the bread and butter here in
• 16:00
  Speaker 8: Tampa Yeah.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: I mean they were the seventh ranked defense and you're
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: absolutely right about both Yah Yah and Claijah. I spent
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: a lot of time with the Clija down here in
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: South Florida. He's a worker, that guy. I mean I
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: felt bad when he pulled that cap in pre season.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: It really knocked him out. But what were you saw
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: on exactly what you said is Sarah, is that these
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: guys improved as the season went on. Sometimes you almost
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: have to red shirt these young defensive linemen and wait
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: for the second year.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I think they're both going to take a big year
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: of growth.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna see Elijah this weekend at the
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Sack Summit that Von Miller and Max Crawlsey are putting on.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: But if I'm out on the beach, Clijah's working.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: The guy's out there every day and Florida heat, humidity,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: He's out there working on his game. You know, we
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: went to pitt and you know he learned from Aaron
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Donald and he was back there training, and so it
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: never really ends.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, here we are in Fort Lauderdale.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's no people are in the water sour,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: They're not out here pass rushing.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: He's given me some clinic right here on what to
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: do with the hands.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: He's working on his moves, he's walking through, he's digging
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: in the sand, and he's working on his conditioning. This
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: guy never stops working, and I'm excited to see him
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: in Vegas this weekend at the SACT Summit. But I
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: think both these players, as you mentioned, are really going
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: to take a big step forward for this defense, and
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, with Vitave and some of the
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: other guys there, this should be a good challenge in
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the NFC South dealing with these two young progressing defensive
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: lineman right now, can I just.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Say that video?
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, one more time, Baldy and Clijah Canci working
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: on the beach. I asked the producers before the show,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: can we do this in a split screen with Rocky
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: and Apollo Creed running on the beach. I was told no,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: we can't afford that. Hopefully this one ends better than
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Rocky one did for Rocky. That's Rocky three, right, I
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: think they're running on the beach in Rocky three. Maybe
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: it's Rocky four. They all blend together after a while.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Baldy, stick around. We're going to
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: be back with you. Sarah, You're the best sticking in
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the NFC South Division fourthy moment a big announcement from
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the Panthers. The City Council in Charlotte has approved the Panthers'
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: plans for an eight hundred million dollars stadium renovation, of
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: which the team will pay a city rather will pay
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty million. Owner David Tepper will post
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the remaining funds and commit to keeping the team in
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Charlotte through twenty forty five. Meanwhile, new Panthers head coach
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Dave Canalis joined our Peter Schrager for an interview on
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the Season podcast today and had some strong words about
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: what needs to improve from Carolina's two and fifteen season
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: heading into twenty twenty four. What do you do to
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a squad that was two and fifteens looking in the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: locker room and saying are we?
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: What are we? What do you do as a new coach?
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: How do you inspire them with words? Yeah?
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: I think to put it simply, I just said, we
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: just need to get our football right. And the comment
• 18:50
  Speaker 9: there was what I was trying to do, what I'm
• 18:53
  Speaker 9: still trying to do with that is like forget about
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: the side stories, guys, Like if we can just play
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: good football.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: The side stories, the.
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: Headlines will right themselves, but can we just get our
• 19:08
  Speaker 9: football right? And that really was just a reflection on
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: like it wasn't the greatest brand of offensive football it was.
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: There were things up front, there were things schematically that
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: we needed to work on, and that wasn't to NFL
• 19:26
  Speaker 9: standard and certainly not to Carolina Panthers twenty twenty four standard.
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: The defensive side of the football was excellent, and there
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: was still things to improve on. There's still nuances to
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: grow through. Special teams was solid. So it's just like,
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: if we can just get all three phases up to
• 19:47
  Speaker 9: snuff and get them get us all the complete playing field,
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: then we will compete and we will be able to
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: and our talent will be able to be showcased better
• 19:56
  Speaker 9: that we can just have a foundation.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: This just in a The other new stadium deal is done.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars announced literally just seconds ago the team and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the city of Jacksonville have reached the agreement on a
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: ground baking breaking Stadium of the future deal. State of
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the art facility is set to transform downtown as surrounding areas.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Cording to the Jaguars marketing, a significant milestone in the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: city's development. They'll continue to play at EverBank Stadium through
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, an alternate venue in twenty twenty seven, Wimbly,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty eight that new stadium is going to open,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: So the Jaguars day in Jacksonville.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: The Panthers stay in Charlotte.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: The Cardinals they're not going anywhere, but Trey McBride hopes
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that he can help that Cardinals team take twenty twenty
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: four two new heights. He's fresh out participating in tight
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: End University. These schools some people or did he get schooled?
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: We'll catch up with McBride. Bought the Cardinals, Kyler Murray
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and a whole lot more right after this on the inside.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: A few years ago, the Arizona Cardinals made Trey McBride
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the first known NFL player to be raised by same
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: sex parents, a son of Kate and Jen mcgride. Trey
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: has fans league wide for his play and for his
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: family's story, and now you can count a Bills fan
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: named Forge and his dad's among that group.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: This is my first non Bills Jersey.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, we are.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: For hope to see you all week one. Hope you
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: enjoyed the jersey. I wanted to know that it's cool
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: to have same sex parents.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I am here for you.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: We are in the city. You have a great future, Kate.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Trey McBride.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Ps, I got you a hat plus some Glo Price scores.
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: But the bill's do good, it says Forge.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: This is Ford, all your dreams, the world is yours.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: So it's really nice.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: That's really nice, really sweet.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: It seems like I have an older brother now.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited, and we are joined right now by
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: cardinals tight end Trey McBride, who if a cynic. We're
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: listening looking at this, they'd say, Trey, you just got
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: about seventy one thousand more bills fans to convert before
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: you have to face them in week one. Get everybody
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: on your side here as we move forward. But all seriousness,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: really cool thing for you and embracing this, especially during
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Pride Month. Just tell me how this came about with
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Forge and what it means to you to give pack
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: people who you certainly can relate to.
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they reached out to me and kind of told
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: me their story and then got back to them. You know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 10: wasn't really planning for anything to go by or wasn't
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: really planning on any h of that that really happened.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: Just wanted to help this kid out.
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: Gave them a signed a jersey, wrote them a little note,
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: and you know, everything kind of took off from there.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: How does it make you feel to be an inspiration
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: though to guys like Forage and and I'm sure many
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: others across the country.
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's great.
• 23:12
  Speaker 10: You know, I think it's something that gets more, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: attention than it should. But I think it's very cool
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: that I can be a bright spot in someone's life.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: All Right, So seventy five days away your Cardinals going
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: up against Forges Bills, you got this little break here
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: between mini camp and training camp. I know you're not
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: just sitting around. You just came off a tight end University.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Take me inside that event. You got some big personalities,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: some characters also some really talented dudes.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: What do you get out of a week like that?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: I think it was great just to go to Nashville
• 23:45
  Speaker 10: to be, you know, with all the tight ends in
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: the NFL, to experience that, and then to get to
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: see how those guys prepare, how they go about their business,
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: what they do on a day to day basis, and
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: most importantly to learn the game through there. You know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: some of the best tight ends that I've ever played
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: were there. So it was great to see the insight
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: that they have and you know, soak up some knowledge
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: from some of the best.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: What do you get more out of it The camaraderie
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: from getting to know a lot of these guys and
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: developing that friendship in that bond, or the actual tips
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: and tricks from the football field.
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: I think it's a little, you know, a huge mix
• 24:19
  Speaker 10: of both. You get the tips and tricks, the you know, Travis, George,
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: those guys get up there and show you clips of
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: what they do, what they're looking for, how they do
• 24:27
  Speaker 10: what they do. And then and then you get the camaraderie.
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: You're hanging out with these guys for three, four, five
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: days in a row. So you get to hang out
• 24:34
  Speaker 10: with these guys, learn how they do, you know, do
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: what they do, and just go out there and have
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: a lot of fun for a few days. It's a
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: It's a great event and I plan on going for
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: as long as I can.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the Cardinals here, Trey, because a lot
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: of people watching this show, this is the first time
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: that they've seen you in quite a while. Because there
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: were zero primetime games for the Cardinals last year. You
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: were generally playing at like two o'clock Mountain time every week.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: You guys competed for a team that I'll on paper,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't expect a whole lot from
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you won some games, especially down the stretch. Here, give
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: me the state of the Arizona Cardinals as you now
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: head toward twenty twenty four.
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think we're a tough, physical football team that
• 25:13
  Speaker 10: no one can really count out.
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: You know, we don't get the respect that we deserve.
• 25:17
  Speaker 10: I feel like, but it's good to be, you know,
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: the behind there, you know, under the radar things like that,
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: because no one's really expecting us to do anything. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: think we have a great team, a great offense, and
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: I'm super excited to see, you know, where this team
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: can go this year.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: You mentioned that great offense, Tray you guys were one
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: of the top performing offenses in the second half of
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: the season.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Last year.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: You James Connor, Kyler all coming back, Michael Wilson, but
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: now you have Marvin Harrison, Junior z A Jones in
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: the mix as well, with all those weapons around, how
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: do you see this offense evolving with all these new
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: different pieces.
• 25:51
  Speaker 10: Yeah, like you said, there's just so many different weapons.
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: We have so many different guys on this team, so
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: many different guys that can make plays. You know, we
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: drafted Marvin fourth overall. He's a freak of nature. He's
• 26:01
  Speaker 10: a guy that's going to take a lot of coverage.
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: And then you got guys like Doors, Michael Wilson, Jay
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: Jones myself, you know, James Connor. There's so many different
• 26:09
  Speaker 10: guys that can be explosive and make plays in this offense.
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: I'm just eager to get out on the field and see,
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: you know how the coaches utilize us all.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Another unique thing about this Cardinals team is, obviously your
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: head coach, Jonathan Gannon is a young dude in this league.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Your coordinators, I believe, with the youngest in the entire NFL,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray that recently Drew Petsing is, in his words,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a genius. You see, Drew, he's this little guy. You
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: wouldn't think this guy's, you know, a football coach, But
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: take me inside his brain.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Why do you guys like him the way that you do?
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he's a remarkable coach.
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: He's so good at scheming up defenses, getting guys open,
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: and the way he calls the offense and the way
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: he calls the game is very, very promising. You know
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: exactly what you're going to get from him, you know
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: what he's going to do, and like Kyler said, he's
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: a very smart coach.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: He's a genius, is what he said. But I think
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: it's awesome.
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: He's able to get so many guys open in so
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: many different ways, and he does it in so many
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: different ways. It's a lot of fun to play for it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: Ray, You're coming off a season where he had eighty
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: one catches, eight hundred and twenty five yards, three touchdowns,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: and so many people are picking you to have a
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: major breakout year in twenty four. What are your personal
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: expectations or goals for this upcoming season.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: I think, you know, just most importantly to come back
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: and get better. You know, every single game last year
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: I got a little bit better, got you know, more comfortable,
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: and that's exactly what I plan on doing this year.
• 27:36
  Speaker 10: You know, feel more comfortable in this offense, read defenses better,
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: and just continue to make plays when they come to me,
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: I don't want to do too much. I don't want to,
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: you know, try to do anything that I'm not, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: able to do. But most of all, I just want
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: to continue to get better and everything else will kind.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: Of take care of itself.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: One more thing, Trey, before we let you go.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Our Judie Bautista published a column yesterday NFL dot com
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: saying there's eight dark horse candidates for NFL MVP. Kyler
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Murray was one of those names. Right now as you
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: sit there, you're around him more than anybody else. Give
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: me the best elevator pitch for Kyler Murray MVP candidate.
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: In twenty twenty four.
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah, this is my third year with him now, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: he seems more motivated than ever. He's a guy who's
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: bringing everyone together. We're throwing every weekend, We're getting everyone together,
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: and he's in the building, first one in, last one out.
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: You know, he's one of those guys who's doing everything
• 28:29
  Speaker 10: the right way. And this is the most confident I've
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: seen him. This is his first year that I've been
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: fully healthy with him. He's fully healthy. I think everything's
• 28:37
  Speaker 10: trending in the right way. He has a ton of
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: weapons out there, and I have full confidence that he's
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: capable of an MVP season.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I'm fired up. I'm Soldentrae. You did it. That was
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: that was the perfect. That was the perfect.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I love it right there, all right, seventy five days away, man, Buffalo,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Try to enjoy a little bit off time here.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: We appreciate you joining the show.
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you very much for having me. It was
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: a blast.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: The Falcon will be on the field for training camp
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: one month from today and a very interesting preseason ahead
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: for that guy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Michael Pennix Junior will get.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: The latest on the Falcons and another rookie he should
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: be watching in twenty twenty four.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: That's next on the insiders.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Will be eight big.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty four NFL Draft, the Atlanta Falcons
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: select Michael Powell Junior.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: Well there it is.
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: Oh why that is the first surprise? Hey, Now the
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: NFL Draft, to say the least. And it's kind of
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: wild that Kirk Cousins arrives in Atlanta.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Placing that aside. Michael Pennix Junior is going to Atlanta.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: He's not getting on the field with Kirk Cousins in.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: That contract right now.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: The Falcons drafted Michael Pennix junior, they have paid him,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: but when will they start to get some return on
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: their investment, especially because they've just committed one hundred million
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed to Kirk Cousins a few months ago. For
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: answers on that we bring back our Bridget Condon and
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Sarah Walsh. Sarah, I'll start with you on this. When
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: you look at this, the way that the Falcons are
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: set up. Obviously a draft pick that surprised a ton
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: of people. I know the Falcons are happy that they
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: don't have to have pressure on their rookie quarterback, But
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: tell me how this entire thing evolves in the weeks, months,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: and years to come.
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: I think if you want to get Pennix into the mix,
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: we're talking in the years to come. Because Raheem has
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: said this, They went out and got Kirk Cousins because
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: they believe they can win right now. They believe that
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: is a change that puts them in the postseason that
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: they can make a run. And part of the reason
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: that this Atlanta Falcons team believes is despite not having
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: been in the playoffs the last six seasons, is that
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: because they were so close these last couple of years. Obviously,
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: the NFC South had a very close contest when it
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: came to that division crown. The teams were not separated
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: by much. I'm not saying that those were sterling records
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: because we know that they were not. But the Falcons
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: believe if there was one guy that was a difference maker,
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: it was a different quarterback. It was one win more,
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: two wins more. They're in the postseason. So that's why
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: they went out and got Kirk Cousins because they need
• 31:17
  Speaker 8: him to play, they need him to produce now, and
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: that's been the plan for them all along. And then,
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: of course, is you just showed they went out and
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: surprised people with that draft pick. But now Pennix has
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: something that most quarterbacks these days don't have the luxury
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: of when you're taken so high, and that is time.
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: And you can look no further than just across the
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: division to Carolina at Bryce Young. Obviously he went one overall,
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: but he didn't have the luxury of time, and his
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: on ramp process was immediate, and things didn't go very
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: well in Carolina last year, not that it was all
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: on him, but that learning curve was there was no
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: learning curve.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: It's week one.
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: You're the guy, let's go, and Pedix is not going
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: to have to do that. In fact, Tom it's not
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: believed that he'll probably even start the season as the
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: number two quarterback on that roster, as they have Taylor
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: Heineke as well when asked about Look, quarterbacks are known
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: to be leaders, right, That's who they are, So how
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: do you be this leader that you are knowing you're
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: going to have to take a back seat? And I
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: thought he had a really good answer to that. He said,
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: you know, with preparation comes confident and he is going
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: to have a lot of time to get prepared that
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: when he does finally take the field for the Falcons,
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: he should have a ton of confidence. Because this is
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: definitely a wait and see project. And all that being said,
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: you better believe that every pass he makes in training
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: camp will be dissected, no matter what we say here,
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: no matter how much they say.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Pump the brakes.
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: You know, just given the nature of that draft pick,
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: everyone will have all eyes on him, at least in
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: training camp until the regular season starts.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: We're always talking impact rookies. It's not often that we're
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: talking about a guy who everyone's kind of hoping he's
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: not an impact rookie because if so, that means something
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: very bad or unexpected has happened in Atlanta.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: All those high draft picks, they were all on offense.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Bridget a ton of quarterbacks, obviously, the wide receivers of
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison's the World doing Todays of the World. Give
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: me a rookie name or not talking about, but we
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  Speaker 1: should be heading into twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 5: Jermaine Burton, who is a wide receiver on the Bengals. Look,
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: this is a really fascinating, interesting story that we need
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: to have our eyes on come the beginning of this season.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: I talked to a couple of scouts today because when
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: you look at this guy, you look at his Scott size,
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: you look at the way he runs, routes, his speed,
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: all of that, you would have thought he would have
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: gotten drafted a lot higher than he did. So why
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: didn't he? In talking with scouts today, they all have
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: the same kind of thing that they told me. There
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: were questions about his character, there were questions about coachability,
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: but that he was really, really talented. He was at
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: Alabama his last two years in college, he led the
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: team in terms of receiving yards twenty twenty two, twenty
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: twenty three. But a lot of people think, well, he
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: should have been maybe more productive at Alabama, but because
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: of Bama's run heavy offense, his production was muted a bit.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: So all these things led to him falling to the
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: Bengals in the draft. But in talking with a member
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: of the Bengals today, they told me Burton has been
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: rate so far. There have been no issues. I'm told
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: he's a really good athlete. He can run, he's really explosive.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: So he joins the Cincinnati team with a great quarterback
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: in Joe Burrow, a great offense. The questions will be
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: there are a lot of guys on that team, you know,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: who want the ball, Jamar Chase t Higgins. So where
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: will he fit in and will his character be something
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: that we're talking about next season? I hope not. I
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: hope we're just talking about him finding the end zone.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: Tom Sarah.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Bengals never are scared to take guys who other teams
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: might consider to be characteristics. They also have a pattern
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: where if they know that there's a player who probably
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: is going to leave as a free agent next year,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: draft the potential replacement a year early. T Higgins has
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: signed his franchise tender. He'll be there in camp. Where
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: is he in twenty twenty five? That can tell us
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: a lot about where things go from here for Jermaine Burton.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Bridget and Sarah. Look forward to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: talking to you again later on this week. Coming up
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: after this though, we've got even more rookies and we've
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: got to talk about which of them prime to impress
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger for the twenty twenty four seasons bold. He
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: breaks it down next on The Insiders. The season is
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: over for the Houston Texans, a frustrating campaign.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: Get ready for a busy offseason. The Houston Texas collected.
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  Speaker 7: C J Stroud.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Lead c J Stroud with more manticks to the N zone.
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: You're not supposed to be bet could as a rookie
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: here going very time to find out.
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: Such a great story of them where they were a
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: few years ago to where they are today.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: C J is the reason why we're in his position.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: First team to win a division title with a rookie
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: head coach and quarterback.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Domination took us updas at all round.
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: Ce J the youngest quarterback to win a playoff game
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: in NFL history.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Year two is gonna be fun for CJ. Stroud, Damico
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Ryant and those Texans. He certainly was an impact at
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: rookie in twenty twenty three. Tom Pilisara Brian Baldinger back
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: here on the Insiders are Pal Chad Ryder as a
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: story right now.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Nfl dot com slash writer.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Projecting eleven instant impact rookies on offense for this season.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Baldy, I come to you.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: You're giving me a few names you think are gonna
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: be instant impact rookies in this season, which is just
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: seventy two days away.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Give me some names seventy two for the Bears. At
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: one time, Tom was the Fridge.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: They're powerful defense to tackle Uclark, who ran for a
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: touchdown in their one big Super Bowl win seventy two
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: days away.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna go very far.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Caleb Williams because no rookie quarterback, including
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: CJ last year, they can't do it by themselves. So
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I believe that the Bears defense is gonna be pretty good.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: But we saw that at the end of the season
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: last year. They had at the top of the charge
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: twenty eight takeaways. They played sound defense. That's gonna help
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: the quarterback. He's gonna be able to turn around and
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: hand it off to Andre Swift, to Khalil Herbert to
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Rashawn Johnson. The offensive line has been being built over
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the last three years. We'll get to the receivers, you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: obviously Keenan and Dj Moore. I think it's not going
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: to always have to be about Caleb. There's gonna be
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: times on third down, red zone he's got to step
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: up and make these plays. But I think he's got
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of help around him. Tom and then you
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: know another guy that I believe it's going to be
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: a great player for the Bears long term is Roma Doonsay.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: When we looked at the top three receivers at the.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Top of this draft for three straight months, whether you
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: know it was a Doomsay or Herbert or you know
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: what they have going on in Arizona right now, I
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: thought of Doomsay was as good as anybody, if not
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: the best. And I know he can play inside and
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: he can play outside. He could play with a great
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: quarterback like Michael Pennick Junior. He could play also pretty
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: well with a guy that was there before Pennix. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: think he can adjust his style because of his guy.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: His leaping ability is ability to adjust to the ball
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: in the air and make your quarterback look good. And
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: a rookie list wouldn't be complete without an offensive lineman
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: coming from me. I'm a big fan of Troy Fontano,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: who was the Steelers' first round pick. He's going to
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: be the right tackle opposite Broderick Jones. You look at
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: what they have and Arthur Smith as an offensive coordinator
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: coming in. He's gonna want to run the ball. The
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Steelers showed you last year, especially with Jalen Warren, that
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: they're going to be able to run it. There's Roman
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Dunze right there, but I believe Troy Falatano right there,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: the left tackle for Washington's in the last two years,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I thought he was as good a run blocking offensive
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: tackle as there was in all the college football last year,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: and he's going to get that chance right away in
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh in the Black and Gold to be able to
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: put those skills on notice. Those are the kind of
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: things that I'm going to notice. His ability to move
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: big bodies with his big body.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Welld you mentioned in the fridge William Perry there number
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: seventy two for the eighty five Bears. He scored three
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: touchdowns on offense that season, memorably. Yeah, what one big
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: man in the NFL? Would you draw up a play
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: to get him in the end zone?
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: I mean the greatest rugby player playing in the NFL
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: right now is Jordan Mylotta. And he's three eighty six,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: or maybe he's three eighty two. Maybe he doesn't want
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: three eighty six out there. But you give it to
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Jordan Malatta like he will truck people. Like, forget about
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the tush push and all this fancy stuff the Eagles
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: are doing. Just give it to Malatta and let him
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: just play rugby and just scrum it across the goal
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: line or any line.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you he converts. Yeah.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they need a different short yard of
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: joption here, that certainly would one of them be one
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of them. That is also a very big push to push, Baldy.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Don't move your back with us after this.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: It says here on the script, everybody loves a meat cute.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what that turn means. Maybe I
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and you will find out right after this on The Insiders,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: summer is in full swing and bromance is in the air.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Yesterday in La before Brazil stiven Costa Rica at Sofi
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Stadium in a Copa America match, Brazil star neymar got
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a gift from the Rams pooka Nakua, a custom Rams
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: jersey and an invite from Puka to a future game.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: That's night.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Speaking of meet cutes, which Wikipedia in for me during
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: the break, is a scene in media in which two
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: people meet for the first time, typically under unusual humor's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: acute circumstances, and go on to form a future romantic couple.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Hallmark Media, sky Dane Sports and The Chiefs announced a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: new Christmas movie coming this holiday season titled Holiday Touchdown,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: a Chief's Love Story, as the two iconic kansasity brands
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: link up for a Chiefs themed film shot entirely in
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Kansas City, which brings us Tom Pelisero and Brian Baldier
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to the most important question of the entire night, Baldi,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: which has nothing to do with Elijah Cancey's hand placement. No,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: it's if you were making a Hallmark movie about the Chiefs,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: what current Chiefs personality player. Whoever in the building would
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: you make sure.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Is in that movie?
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Toomas, the easiest question you've asked anybody all night long.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Here it's Creed Humphrey the center, like he's the son
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: of a farmer. Like you know, there's an old saying
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: in the Marine Corps it never rains on the rightful range, meaning,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: no matter what the weather is, forty blow against the
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins in this game, Create Humphrey snapping of Patrick Mahomes.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if it's one hundred degrees out there
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: at training camp.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Creed Humphreys, he's always there. He's always there, and he
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: gets his big old meat hooks on you. You can't
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: get him off them. Like you won a Hallmark card.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Get create Humphrey up there, milk and cows holding defensive linemen,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: snapping the Mahomes. He's got character, he's got humor, and
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you know what, He's always there.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Create Humphreys.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: My guy Baldy officially the casting agent now for Kreean Humphrey.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I want a new segment on this show that's just
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: called how will Baldi.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: Work Create Humphrey into the Insiders today?
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Question?
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I asked to do that somehow we end up getting
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: to Creed. I'll take the easy out here. It's not
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: a player.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: But how about Andy Reid.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: If you're making a Hallmark movie that's said around the holidays,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid. At some point, sand Ha's got to pull
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: down the beard right sitting in the chair and it's
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid back there.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: He's already got the red suit. It's the easiest. It's
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: the easiest casting decision you can possibly make. Baldi are
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: the best. Thank for be hero. Talking to you later
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: on in.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: The week, Big Show on Wednesdays. We keep counting down
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to Trade Camp. Austin Echor will be here. You should
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: be two.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: See it.