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- 0:03Josh: So just yesterday spacex launched their fully stacked
- 0:06Josh: starship which measures almost 500 feet
- 0:09Josh: tall it's the largest object that's ever gone to space and two parts went up
- 0:13Josh: both parts came down and they both exploded catastrophic explosion and the explosion
- 0:19Josh: was gigantic everything that went up came down everything blew up but the point
- 0:24Josh: of this mission is that that's actually exactly how it was supposed to go. It was a wild success.
- 0:28Josh: These test flights, when SpaceX sends these up, they're not expected to land.
- 0:32Josh: In fact, most times they don't. And this is the first time where it actually
- 0:36Josh: landed in the right place.
- 0:37Josh: So Ijaz, what you're seeing in this video here is the booster that is kind of
- 0:41Josh: hovering above ground before falling into the ocean and exploding. So this was amazing.
- 0:45Josh: Ijaz, I know you were also watching the launch last night. What were your first
- 0:49Josh: impressions? What did you think watching this?
- 0:50Ejaaz: My first impressions was, why is this thing
- 0:53Ejaaz: exploding josh and i have to be honest for
- 0:56Ejaaz: our listeners here um josh i see you're rocking the
- 1:00Ejaaz: spacex hoodie let's go you can
- 1:03Ejaaz: see that i'm rocking a horse which is pretty much the opposite of a rocket i'm
- 1:08Ejaaz: old school i'm old-fashioned and i'm like okay this rocket is cool alon's launched
- 1:13Ejaaz: a bunch of spaceships already what's so special about this and after digging
- 1:19Ejaaz: under the hood josh this is actually super impressive.
- 1:22Ejaaz: I think the one line which kind of like bamboozles me about SpaceX's vision
- 1:26Ejaaz: is they're building the infrastructure for space.
- 1:29Ejaaz: I think up until, you know, very recently, many people thought of space as like
- 1:34Ejaaz: this kind of like cool thing. It's like, yeah, it's a once in a lifetime mission.
- 1:38Ejaaz: It's going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars. But what SpaceX is trying
- 1:41Ejaaz: to do is reduce the cost of that to the equivalent of like a bus ride,
- 1:45Ejaaz: So that becomes pretty normal to colonize humans outside of Earth.
- 1:50Ejaaz: But can you explain why this launch is so important, Josh?
- 1:54Josh: Yeah. So Starship Mission, I mean, like you were saying, to back it up,
- 1:56Josh: is the intention is to get to Mars.
- 1:58Josh: And they're very dead set on getting to Mars. And the problem with getting to
- 2:02Josh: Mars is that you need to have a low cost per kilogram to orbit.
- 2:06Josh: That's kind of how this thing works is if you can't get mass to orbit,
- 2:10Josh: then you can't create a copy of Earth to live on Mars.
- 2:14Josh: And the thing with colonizing Mars is that you actually need every single thing
- 2:18Josh: that Earth needs in order to be self-sustainable in the case that the planes
- 2:21Josh: or the rockets stop coming.
- 2:24Josh: So, Ejaz, if you send, let's say, 100 million tons to Mars, but you forget vitamin
- 2:29Josh: C, everything dies over a certain period of time.
- 2:32Josh: So you really need to be able to deliver every single critical element for life.
- 2:36Josh: And that requires a ton, literally metric tons of mass to orbit.
- 2:40Josh: And the problem is getting that
- 2:42Josh: cost down to as low as humanly possible. So back in the day in this with the
- 2:46Josh: space shuttle program, it cost $60,000 per kilogram to orbit.
- 2:51Josh: With the new starship, the projection is hopefully going to be as low as $50 per kilogram to orbit.
- 2:57Josh: So this is like a huge decrease in how they're able to do this.
- 3:01Josh: And the reason they're able to do this is because of rapid reusability.
- 3:04Josh: And that's what we saw yesterday. That was the idea of the test yesterday is
- 3:07Josh: to test how reusable these rockets are.
- 3:10Josh: So we probably should talk about the reason why this test in particular was
- 3:15Josh: different than all the others. And it's because of the heat shield.
- 3:18Josh: Now, the heat shield is a very critical part of this rocket because the heat
- 3:23Josh: shield is the single most challenging part to get right in order for the rocket to relaunch itself.
- 3:28Josh: So what we're seeing here is the crux of the heat shield, the way that they've
- 3:32Josh: been able to make it work.
- 3:33Josh: Because a lot of times, the reason why a rocket can't survive is when it comes
- 3:36Josh: back to orbit at 25 000 kilometers per hour uh
- 3:39Josh: it's really freaking hot and that's a lot of plasma it's a lot of heat
- 3:42Josh: and it just melts everything but what we're seeing here on screen is this
- 3:45Josh: thing called the bakery where starship literally bakes
- 3:48Josh: 18 000 of these tiles the same way your grandma
- 3:51Josh: would they take some ceramic they throw it in an oven they cook
- 3:54Josh: it and on the way out comes out these little hexagons they stack
- 3:57Josh: 18 000 of them together and it blocks
- 4:00Josh: the shields from overheating the problem is again
- 4:03Josh: you just the reusability where you need to be able to get this
- 4:06Josh: rocket back to earth and then take off rapidly right afterwards and
- 4:09Josh: the problem is that they've been falling apart like they've kind of fallen
- 4:12Josh: off some of them don't hold some of them
- 4:15Josh: can't resist the heat properly so what they did is they invented this thing
- 4:18Josh: called the crunch wrap which is such an outrageous name shout out from taco
- 4:23Josh: bell yeah we're seeing the crunch wrap supreme literally like the crunch wrap
- 4:27Josh: supreme that's where they get the inspiration from and i love this and what
- 4:30Josh: we're seeing on screen is oh they were actually able to take these tiles,
- 4:33Josh: these little ceramic plates, and they wrap them in this felt material.
- 4:36Josh: And the problem when you're going through space really hot is the metal expands
- 4:40Josh: and contracts quite a bit.
- 4:41Josh: So you need to have space in between the tiles, but that space let a lot of heat in.
- 4:45Josh: So what they did is they created this kind of malleable material,
- 4:48Josh: which is the felt, and it allows the metal to heat up and expand and condense
- 4:53Josh: and shrink while keeping these heat shields all intact. And it was amazing.
- 4:56Josh: And what happened on this launch was they lost less than 1% of the heat shield
- 5:00Josh: tiles, where in the past, they lost 5% to 10%.
- 5:03Josh: So the fact that they got this number down so low is the single probably biggest
- 5:07Josh: win of this entire test flight yesterday that we saw was the fact that they
- 5:11Josh: have a reusable heat shield. It's never been done before at this scale.
- 5:14Ejaaz: Okay, so if I were to summarize what you just said, Josh,
- 5:18Ejaaz: you're saying that the reason why Elon is testing out so many of these rockets
- 5:23Ejaaz: and blowing all of these up is to come to the ideal rocket architecture that
- 5:29Ejaaz: can colonize humanity outside of Earth. Have I got that first part right?
- 5:34Josh: Absolutely. Yeah. You got to build something that scales and that can be mass manufactured.
- 5:38Ejaaz: Okay, cool. And so to get there, he needs to reduce the cost of taking heavy stuff up, right?
- 5:46Ejaaz: Like right now, when it started off with the first rocket from NASA,
- 5:49Ejaaz: it was super expensive, hundreds of millions of dollars.
- 5:51Ejaaz: Reducing that cost to something much, much cheaper than that is important,
- 5:55Ejaaz: but also reusability is important, right? Josh, that's one way to kind of like drive it down.
- 6:00Ejaaz: It's like, if I can use the same rocket ship over and over again and not have
- 6:03Ejaaz: to reconstruct a new rocket ship every time one comes down and crashes,
- 6:07Ejaaz: we should be fine, right? So both of those things kind of are running in parallel.
- 6:10Ejaaz: And you're saying one major factor to help us get there are these heat-proof
- 6:16Ejaaz: shields or these heat-proof tiles, which are getting built in this SpaceX bakery.
- 6:21Ejaaz: That's what we're calling it, right? These countries.
- 6:23Ejaaz: Are these things literally made of ceramic, by the way?
- 6:25Josh: They're literally made of ceramic. It's so funny. it's just like what you did
- 6:29Josh: in like elementary school middle school art class um it's no different than
- 6:33Josh: that they put a little coat on the top it's like a little more sophisticated
- 6:36Josh: than that but basically they're just baking ceramic taco
- 6:38Ejaaz: Okay so where my mind goes to immediately next josh is um with the things that
- 6:45Ejaaz: they're taking to space what what kinds of things are they going to be taking
- 6:48Ejaaz: to space like i get the the mars thing right and that i still can't quite wrap
- 6:53Ejaaz: my head around because i'm like okay you like what materials are you taking that are you
- 6:56Ejaaz: bricks to build a house like how do we know if we can even live there but um
- 6:59Ejaaz: the most immediate thing that i remember us speaking about a few
- 7:02Ejaaz: episodes ago was satellites right and
- 7:06Ejaaz: these satellites are part of starlink v3 which is getting
- 7:08Ejaaz: um you know their new satellite um structure which is
- 7:12Ejaaz: basically going to beam down i think it was like 60 terabits worth of data to
- 7:17Ejaaz: earth which is the equivalent of me having like super fast internet cabled internet
- 7:22Ejaaz: at home but anywhere i am like wherever i am if i'm on a quaint little mountainside
- 7:27Ejaaz: um where i usually won't have reception,
- 7:30Ejaaz: Am I getting that right? Is there any other thing that I'm missing in between
- 7:33Ejaaz: satellites and building homes on Mars?
- 7:36Josh: Well, that's pretty much it.
- 7:38Josh: It's satellites, and then the satellites fund the mission to get to Mars.
- 7:42Josh: So Starlink is one of the largest cash cows of SpaceX, along with the private
- 7:47Josh: missions that they send up on behalf of governments or private industry,
- 7:50Josh: where they will take large satellites and they will send them into space.
- 7:53Josh: What Starship enables, like you said, it's just much
- 7:56Josh: bigger objects into orbit so like you
- 7:59Josh: mentioned the starlink v3 has 60 terabits of downlink
- 8:02Josh: speed per launch whereas the falcon
- 8:05Josh: 9 launches with the starlink v2 or 2.5 that
- 8:08Josh: they're at now they only had three terabits per second
- 8:11Josh: of downlink so every single one of these starship launches is equivalent
- 8:14Josh: to 20 old launches which is
- 8:17Josh: just an outrageously large scale at how quickly they're going to improve this
- 8:20Josh: network and not only that but the latency comes down the total bandwidth goes
- 8:24Josh: way up it has a much further range and yeah we're seeing on screen kind of the
- 8:27Josh: difference between them so the version 1.5 fairly small version 2 pretty big
- 8:32Josh: version 3 is like gigantic it is dude
- 8:36Ejaaz: This is like much bigger 10 times larger than v 1.5.
- 8:39Josh: So much larger and it's it's really exciting because version 3 satellites will
- 8:44Josh: enable people like me and you to actually be inclined to use the network a lot
- 8:48Josh: of people now for starlink the users they're in the middle of nowhere.
- 8:51Josh: They're not in very highly populated areas because that's where it kind of works
- 8:54Josh: the best. There's not a ton of bandwidth on the network.
- 8:56Josh: If you live in the middle of the woods somewhere remote, or if you live in like
- 8:59Josh: some super foreign place in a jungle, you use Starlink. It works amazing.
- 9:04Josh: But when you apply these high bandwidth satellites, not only can you use them
- 9:08Josh: in more densely populated areas, but like we had in our episode a few weeks
- 9:11Josh: ago, you could actually go direct to cell.
- 9:13Josh: So EJs, if we're going on a hike somewhere in the middle of nowhere,
- 9:16Josh: well, now your cell phone could actually get service too, thanks to these new satellites.
- 9:19Josh: So it enables this huge unlock in terms of satellites but then also in terms
- 9:24Josh: of SpaceX Starlink satellites but then also in terms of private industry there's
- 9:27Josh: a lot of telescopes there's a lot of rovers like a lot of these larger objects
- 9:32Josh: that want to go to space but have no vehicle to take them there
- 9:34Josh: Starship enables that and all of these tests like you were mentioning Starship
- 9:38Josh: the test flight 11 last night it's all in an effort to find a flight proven
- 9:43Josh: architecture basically create the blueprint that you could then copy and paste
- 9:47Josh: and start doing this at scale like we saw with the last Rocket the Falcon 9.
- 9:51Ejaaz: Okay, Josh, I want to talk about the spacecraft itself.
- 9:57Ejaaz: This thing is huge. What we're seeing is an image of this spacecraft next to some old models.
- 10:06Ejaaz: You know, we've got the old school NASA models.
- 10:10Ejaaz: And just height-wise, this thing is crazy. And it's super thin.
- 10:13Ejaaz: Like if i remember correctly the outer shell of this spacecraft is the thickness
- 10:19Ejaaz: of two credit cards put together sorry how is that possible.
- 10:24Josh: It's outrageous they use hfs which stands for hard f and steel and he does if
- 10:29Josh: you if you that is the scientific name it's hfs i swear to you there's no way
- 10:34Ejaaz: That's right i'm gonna look that up.
- 10:35Josh: Well it's real and actually you can go outside and see this right now you just
- 10:38Josh: because if you go and check out the cyber trucks that are rolling down the road
- 10:41Josh: which there are plenty of in the city um they are wrapped with the same exact
- 10:44Josh: hfs that is on starship it is just a cold rolled stainless steel that
- 10:49Ejaaz: Is super strong you're not lying.
- 10:51Josh: It's called hfs um and it's it's
- 10:54Josh: remarkably strong strong that's why uh your cyber truck is bulletproof
- 10:57Josh: it's because it's made of the same stuff that starships are made of um and
- 11:00Josh: a lot of the the complexity comes from actually pressurizing the cabin
- 11:03Josh: so that they don't um either collapse under pressure or
- 11:06Josh: over expand under pressure but the scale is gigantic it is what we're seeing
- 11:10Josh: here is um the starship basically consists of two parts there's the first stage
- 11:15Josh: which is at the bottom that's the booster they call that super heavy and then
- 11:18Josh: there's the second stage which is the actual ship on top and both of those ones stacked together
- 11:25Josh: 394 feet tall so that is equivalent to about 40
- 11:28Josh: stories tall so you just if you ever stood on top of a 40-story building you've
- 11:32Josh: looked out that is the the view from the top of starship it is unbelievably
- 11:36Josh: tall it's 30 taller than the statue of liberty i think it's 60 feet shorter
- 11:39Josh: than the great pyramid of giza this thing is like gigantic and yeah you can
- 11:44Josh: see here for scale on the video humans
- 11:45Ejaaz: People just look tiny yes so so so josh the the super heavy part part one the
- 11:52Ejaaz: booster is that primarily to get the ship you know up into the air is that primarily
- 11:58Ejaaz: just like fuel and rocket boosters.
- 12:00Josh: That's exactly right so the the booster exists literally
- 12:03Josh: for its name to boost the ship into earth
- 12:06Josh: orbit or low earth orbit at least because earth's atmosphere is
- 12:09Josh: super dense it takes a lot of energy to break through it but once
- 12:12Josh: you've broken through it and you're in the low earth orbit and going into outer
- 12:15Josh: space there's a lot less atmosphere there's a lot less friction against your
- 12:18Josh: ship you just need that smaller top part to actually go
- 12:21Josh: out into deep space um and this is where
- 12:24Josh: the payload is right exactly so the entire
- 12:27Josh: booster that whole bottom part that you're seeing it's all fuel
- 12:30Josh: 100 of that bottom part is fuel and then
- 12:32Josh: most of the top part is actually fuel too like a large percentage of
- 12:35Josh: the stack is just fuel and then towards the
- 12:38Josh: very top of the bay is about room for 150
- 12:41Josh: tons of reusable payload um so it's
- 12:45Josh: a lot of fuel and actually one of the interesting things that they're going to
- 12:47Josh: start doing with the next version version three of the
- 12:50Josh: rocket is they're going to refuel that top part in space
- 12:53Josh: so what they'll do is they'll send up two versions of the ship one
- 12:56Josh: is a tanker and then one is the actual ship they meet in
- 12:59Josh: orbit and they kind of like kiss each other and then one refuels the other and
- 13:03Josh: that's how it's able to get out to mars um so it's this really remarkable thing
- 13:08Josh: what we're seeing here is the the rendering of the version three and that's
- 13:10Josh: that's exactly the kissing that i'm talking about they they have a tanker and
- 13:14Josh: then they have the ship and they connect and that's how you refuel it
- 13:17Ejaaz: So um this launch that we just watched um that was intentionally exploded is
- 13:24Ejaaz: the sign before we move on to this next version that we're seeing on our screens
- 13:28Ejaaz: right josh can you tell us like what the major differences are and what we can expect.
- 13:32Josh: Yeah so one of the biggest differences this is
- 13:35Josh: the thing that i am absolutely obsessed with is the raptor 3 engine so they
- 13:39Josh: have a whole new engine architecture that you're using and as a result a lot
- 13:42Josh: of things need to change so what you just saw in the past one it was a new fuel
- 13:45Josh: tank everything about the outside mostly looks the same everything about the
- 13:49Josh: inside is changing so the fuel distribution is changing a lot of the um
- 13:54Josh: the telemetry things the grid fins that control the ship are changing but the
- 13:59Josh: most notable part is these raptor 3 engines and it is if you go back actually
- 14:02Josh: to that image i love this image so much because it shows the three iterations
- 14:06Josh: of raptor and it just shows like what what a great company is possible is is
- 14:12Josh: capable of doing seems much less
- 14:13Ejaaz: Complex than yes.
- 14:15Josh: But it's much more powerful too so that raptor 1
- 14:18Josh: engine had was so complicated it looks
- 14:21Josh: like a bird's nest there's so much stuff going on it's really difficult to understand
- 14:24Josh: it has to have its own heat shield built in and it weighed
- 14:27Josh: 2 000 kilograms so it's not
- 14:30Josh: very reusable it weighs a ton and it
- 14:33Josh: is only able to i mean only able to the thrust that you can
- 14:36Josh: get out of it is 185 tons raptor 2 looks a lot more elegant and raptor 2 that
- 14:42Josh: decreased the weight by 400 kilograms it has some more heat shield built in
- 14:47Josh: so there's a little less maintenance before and after each flight to reuse it
- 14:50Josh: but still pretty complicated and lifts the thrust up to 230 tons.
- 14:55Josh: Now, Raptor 3 looks like you could put that in a museum. It's gorgeous.
- 14:58Josh: All of the complexities are embedded inside of the engine. It is much more complex.
- 15:04Josh: And yet, it has a record-setting 269 tons of thrust. It weighs 100 kilograms, even less than Raptor 2.
- 15:12Josh: And there are no major limitations, meaning it can just go up into orbit,
- 15:17Josh: come back down, relight, and go right back again.
- 15:20Josh: So it is this unbelievably complex engineering challenge that they took on and
- 15:24Josh: that they were able to do.
- 15:25Josh: And I think it's a testament to how SpaceX operates. It's just really considering
- 15:29Josh: these things from first principles.
- 15:30Josh: Like, how can we make an engine the best possible thing using no off-the-shelf
- 15:34Josh: parts? All this is custom tooling.
- 15:35Josh: And as a result, they got an engine that is way faster. And like,
- 15:38Josh: look at this video that's it is so much force that's that's 269 tons of thrust
- 15:44Josh: from one single engine um it's it's a marvel
- 15:48Ejaaz: This seems like something straight out of a movie josh um like i i feel like
- 15:53Ejaaz: if you tell anyone that um how many of these did you say are going to be in
- 15:56Ejaaz: the new new ship oh i want to.
- 15:58Josh: Say there's 31 to 33 something like that there's a good bit of right
- 16:03Ejaaz: Right so if you told me that hey, 33 of these two credit cards worth thick Raptor
- 16:12Ejaaz: rockets are going to blast 150 tons and much, much more probably in V3.
- 16:17Ejaaz: Up into space, into orbit, I would probably laugh at you. I would be like,
- 16:22Ejaaz: this thing is flimsy. I don't know if I could trust this. Why is it wiggling around?
- 16:25Ejaaz: There is no other company that is building like this, Josh. And I was trying
- 16:29Ejaaz: to think about, you know, other kind of competitors that come even near SpaceX.
- 16:34Ejaaz: And I just fall flat every single time. I think Elon and SpaceX and the engineers
- 16:39Ejaaz: and what they've built and what they've achieved to date is in a league of their own.
- 16:43Josh: Truly. There's nobody who's close. There's a lot of companies who are trying
- 16:46Josh: to build interesting things, but there is genuinely no one on Earth who's close
- 16:50Josh: in the sense that if SpaceX shuts down tomorrow, we have no space program.
- 16:55Josh: We have no easy and affordable way of getting satellites into low Earth orbit.
- 16:58Josh: We have no aspirations for becoming multi-planetary species.
- 17:02Josh: We have no redundant internet.
- 17:05Josh: If we lose connection down on Earth, we have no secondary network to exist in
- 17:11Josh: space. So it is very much a monopoly.
- 17:13Josh: And you could start to understand why when you see how complex these things
- 17:16Josh: are, how big they are at scale.
- 17:18Josh: And yeah, I love the image you're showing here because there's also really great culture there too.
- 17:22Josh: This is an image from their, I guess, from Starbase, right? Where they take these things off from.
- 17:27Ejaaz: It's to get into Starship. Actually, it's the top level.
- 17:30Ejaaz: And before you walk in, you see this painting, which is just probably the most
- 17:34Ejaaz: inspiring thing ever if you're an astronaut going up in one of these things.
- 17:38Josh: And it's this beautifully like hand-painted astronaut holding his hand out,
- 17:42Josh: starship in the reflection, standing on Mars.
- 17:45Josh: It's really amazing. And one of the funny things is a lot of people just,
- 17:51Josh: There's this disconnect between saying we're going to Mars and then actually
- 17:54Josh: understanding the downstream effects of getting to Mars.
- 17:58Josh: And I think a funny thing that I learned from following SpaceX over the years
- 18:01Josh: is that they actually have entire teams dedicated to coming up with life on
- 18:07Josh: Mars, meaning like here is everything we need to ship.
- 18:10Josh: Here is how the government structure is going to look. Here is how we're going
- 18:13Josh: to like distribute supplies. Here is how we're going to build the first base,
- 18:15Josh: the second base, the third base.
- 18:17Josh: And there are teams that have been doing this for years because they are so
- 18:20Josh: certain that their mission will succeed, that they will be able to get life
- 18:23Josh: on Mars. And they do have a rough timeline trajectory.
- 18:26Josh: I think first moon missions are going for 2028 and then the Mars mission around 2030, I believe.
- 18:31Josh: So within the next five years, people will actually, or at least rockets will be on their way to Mars,
- 18:36Josh: which is, it's just cool it's a really exciting thing yesterday's launch
- 18:39Josh: was amazing progress everything that could have gone right
- 18:42Josh: went right um and it was really a step in the right direction because
- 18:45Josh: the last couple of launches this is this was launched number
- 18:48Josh: 11 they had some serious problems like there
- 18:51Josh: was one of the rockets it fully exploded prior
- 18:54Josh: to even getting off the launch pad a total detonation destroyed
- 18:57Josh: the launch pad they had to rebuild it there was another rocket that um
- 19:01Josh: when it tried to get pressurized it totally exploded so there's been a lot of
- 19:04Josh: problems along the way last night's flight was amazing everything went about
- 19:09Josh: as good as it could have and what we're going to see soon is they're going to
- 19:12Josh: try to actually catch the starship rocket which is going to be a really exciting
- 19:17Josh: development because once they get that thing caught
- 19:20Josh: We're on our way.
- 19:22Ejaaz: I really hope this happens in my lifetime. I hope that the cost of travel to
- 19:28Ejaaz: get to space is affordable enough that I can go with me, my kids,
- 19:32Ejaaz: maybe even my mom and kind of like see what's up and out there,
- 19:36Ejaaz: maybe even a colony on a different planet.
- 19:38Ejaaz: It's interesting, as we have gone through this conversation,
- 19:41Ejaaz: I kind of think as Mars is like the first step to all of this.
- 19:45Ejaaz: I remember when I was a kid growing up thinking like Mars was this like really,
- 19:49Ejaaz: really far off thing to happen. Definitely not in my lifetime.
- 19:52Ejaaz: And now it just seems like, you know, it'll happen and then we're on to the
- 19:56Ejaaz: next big kind of planetary jump.
- 19:59Ejaaz: Satellites getting out there, moving different types of payloads,
- 20:03Ejaaz: whether it's like telescopes that you mentioned earlier. I feel like it's all just phase one.
- 20:07Ejaaz: I can't even imagine what comes next. But I know that there's only one company
- 20:12Ejaaz: that is doing this. It is SpaceX.
- 20:15Ejaaz: They cut the cost of space flight initially down to, what was the falcon 9 um
- 20:19Ejaaz: cost cutting josh do you do you remember this they cut it down to like a 12th
- 20:25Ejaaz: or like 126 it's it's one of those numbers.
- 20:28Josh: It was some outrageously low number yeah of
- 20:31Josh: how how low it went relative to others there's also
- 20:33Josh: a video you just i'm going to send you that i would love to show
- 20:36Josh: because it's just um it's it's awesome to
- 20:39Josh: see the effect it has on other people
- 20:42Josh: like it's more than just a mission so one of the cool things is
- 20:45Josh: is the downstream effects of getting to mars means that we have
- 20:48Josh: unlocked a ton of new technology it means that we have um
- 20:51Josh: we're able to create food and life on
- 20:54Josh: another planet which means we need to have a lot of forms of portable energy a
- 20:57Josh: lot better battery technology a lot better agricultural technology
- 21:01Josh: but also this video that we're showing on screen it's like what's inspiring
- 21:04Josh: the next generation to want to do cool badass stuff like it's
- 21:07Josh: it's so fun being able to sit down and watch these launches and
- 21:10Josh: and see like these kids just sitting down and like getting super expired
- 21:13Josh: because for a long time when children when
- 21:16Josh: we're growing up like the thing they wanted to be was an astronaut that
- 21:19Josh: was the coolest thing and now the most popular answer is like oh i want to be
- 21:23Josh: a tiktoker i want to be an influencer and i really i mean personally i love
- 21:27Josh: the idea of people starting to get inspired by seeing things like this to want
- 21:31Josh: to do these ambitious things to build rockets to go to outer space to build
- 21:35Josh: satellites to give us internet from the stars like it's just
- 21:38Josh: More than anything, it's an inspiring mission. And thankfully,
- 21:41Josh: they've managed to put an economic engine on it to continue to fund the progress
- 21:46Josh: that happens and to continue to work on this mission of getting payload to orbit.
- 21:50Ejaaz: Where do I buy this stock? Honestly, I know it's still a private company,
- 21:55Ejaaz: but I need to get my hands on this.
- 21:58Ejaaz: Makes me very bullish, Elon, if I wasn't already bullish enough on all his other
- 22:02Ejaaz: companies, if I wasn't already clear about that on this show.
- 22:05Ejaaz: Josh, is there anything else that you need to share with us about this?
- 22:10Josh: Well, there's one more forward-looking thing that you actually mentioned this
- 22:14Josh: to me a little while ago, is that you're like, well, why can I not get to London in like 20 minutes?
- 22:20Josh: And this is very much that answer. It's like, if you are able to really just
- 22:24Josh: perfect the reusable rocket ship where you create this, an airplane,
- 22:28Josh: but for vertical takeoff and landing.
- 22:30Josh: I mean, when we were watching the launch last night, that starship went across the world in an hour.
- 22:35Josh: Like it was on the complete other side of the planet in an hour.
- 22:37Josh: So if you can create this technology and you can actually really refine it,
- 22:41Josh: produce it at scale, and you lower the cost to orbit down to $50 per kilogram,
- 22:46Josh: well, I would imagine the cost to low Earth orbit or sub orbit,
- 22:49Josh: which takes you up and then over and then into Europe, would probably be not that expensive.
- 22:53Josh: And you could basically get anywhere in the world in like 45 minutes or less.
- 22:57Ejaaz: So the funny part is, I think you could sell a lot of people on that.
- 23:01Ejaaz: I think a lot of people will start talking about sex would be super.
- 23:04Ejaaz: But if I told my mom that, like, hey, you could go to Japan.
- 23:06Ejaaz: It's been a dream of hers to go to Japan in 20 minutes. She would be down.
- 23:11Josh: Yeah. So I think that's an important thing they want to leave people with is
- 23:14Josh: it's not only about getting to Mars.
- 23:16Josh: It's the second order effects that come from understanding the technology to
- 23:20Josh: get to Mars, where we can mass produce these rocket ships.
- 23:23Josh: If we have all this new technology, it gets applied to a lot of really interesting
- 23:26Josh: industries, like the vertical takeoff landing rockets, where you and your mom
- 23:30Josh: can go to Japan for lunch and then come home before dinnertime.
- 23:32Josh: And like that's just an easy and normal thing so it leaves a
- 23:37Josh: a lot of, I think, optimism and excitement around for, for me.
- 23:42Josh: And I think for a lot of people who watch all of these launches,
- 23:44Josh: it's just, it's awesome to see there's more coming each as we were talking yesterday.
- 23:47Josh: We got to go to Texas, go see one.
- 23:49Ejaaz: We're going to go. We are going to go.
- 23:51Josh: Let's do it. Cause that'd be a dream. These things are early next year.
- 23:54Ejaaz: We're going to have it in the background as Josh and I live stream our updates
- 23:58Ejaaz: about it. I cannot wait. I need to get myself a SpaceX hoodie as well.
- 24:02Josh: Hell yeah. Yeah. We'll get matching hoodies and also Easter egg for anyone who's
- 24:06Josh: near texas um all there's a law in texas where all the beaches are public
- 24:11Josh: and starbase where they launch these starships the beach
- 24:14Josh: sits right next to the launch pad so you can
- 24:17Josh: actually go to the beach and be like less than a mile away from this gigantic
- 24:20Josh: rocket ship and really get a great view of it um and just see what it's like
- 24:23Josh: up close so when we go that's exactly where we're going and i am i'm really
- 24:27Josh: looking forward to seeing one of these in person because my god what what an
- 24:31Josh: exciting thing that would be i can't wait well tom cruise of top
- 24:34Ejaaz: Gun step aside there is a new cowboy he's a
- 24:37Ejaaz: space cowboy in town elon is leading the way on
- 24:40Ejaaz: spacex um i cannot wait for the next couple
- 24:43Ejaaz: of launches it seems to me that like every new launch gets that much less complex
- 24:49Ejaaz: but somehow way more powerful and somehow way more cheaper and i still i know
- 24:53Ejaaz: i keep talking about it somehow way more thinner um josh unless there's anything
- 24:58Ejaaz: else to say let's um let's round this up.
- 25:01Josh: Let's wrap it up that's it so the next launch is going to be version three this
- 25:05Josh: was the last launch of version two architecture the whole new the new launch
- 25:08Josh: is brand new everything about the internals are going to be new all this new
- 25:11Josh: stuff is rolling out we will be here covering it all the way um but until then
- 25:16Josh: that's been an episode on spacex starship
- 25:20Josh: launch 9 launch 11 launch 11 i'm losing track yeah it's 11 thank you guys for
- 25:24Josh: watching as always very much appreciated any final prompts before we go um
- 25:28Ejaaz: No but tell us if you enjoyed this space episode um josh and i i i consider
- 25:33Ejaaz: myself an amateur when it comes to these things josh is is super enthusiastic
- 25:37Ejaaz: and plugged in and i love learning from him but do you guys enjoy learning about
- 25:41Ejaaz: this stuff if not is there a different angle that we can cover are there other
- 25:43Ejaaz: space companies out there i already know the answer there is not.
- 25:46Josh: Let us know let us know well thank you for watching we'll see you guys in the next one