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CultBurner: Don't Punch Brett in the Face (ATXMP Showcase Artist) · ATX Metal Podcast

• Ian (00:02.035) Yeah, please. RYAN RAYLE (00:03.15) Well, what's up everybody. Ryan ATX Metal Podcast here back again with another showcase episode. And today we got cult burner in the house. We are going to take a relatively shallow dive on everything that is cult burner and obviously to promote the December 6th show at come and take it live. Super excited to have these guys. Again, tickets right now are $20. You can use the code ATXMETALPODCAST or CultBurner at checkout, get a little discount, or you could hit the bands up themselves, possibly get a little fee free action. But anyway, super excited. The Sims Foundation is gonna be there. Happy to have them on board as well. Let's go around the room. Brett, kick it off. Who you are, where are you from, what you do in the band. And yeah, we'll just go from there. Brett Roos (00:53.436) Yeah, hey, my name is Brett and I live in Austin, Texas. I play guitar and I am the resident dad joke teller of the band. Austin (01:03.532) facts. My name is Austin. I am living in Austin, but I'm from Louisiana and I play drums. Ian (01:13.095) Ooh, I'm Ian. I'm in Austin as well, originally from the East Coast, Virginia, and I play bass. Brett Roos (01:21.256) I didn't know we were saying who we're from, originally. I'm from Oregon. RYAN RAYLE (01:21.556) And, Ian (01:24.241) No, it's over. No one can know where you're from now. Yeah. RYAN RAYLE (01:26.986) It's done, We don't care about the Pacific Northwest anymore, okay? Although you have some of the sexiest terrain that I've ever laid foot on. Geez, Louise, man. Can we all take a trip? Nevermind. Cult Burner what do we need? Let's out the gate, rapid fire, give us three things that we need to know about Cult Burner. Anyone can take this. Ian (01:30.879) Don't care. Don't care. Austin (01:51.628) We love to be as big as possible. Ian (01:55.827) Say that again, what'd you say? Austin (01:57.174) I said we love to be as big as possible, especially on stage. Ian (02:01.139) Yeah, I think it's about aggressive stage presence is a moniker of ours trying to, you know, we're here to put on a show, not just stand there. That would be a pet peeve of mine. I try and keep it cool, but that is always a pet peeve of mine is the sort of stationary band with the singer pacing back and forth. And music is amazing, but we're here to put on a show to hurt ourselves. So in our necks. RYAN RAYLE (02:28.814) Blood, sweat, tears, broken gear, broken hearts. Brett, what's the third thing? Ian (02:34.611) Bloody fingers. Brett Roos (02:37.116) Yeah, I mean, I'd say we just, we like to write aggressive music and just play stuff that we think sounds, I guess, pretty mean, but also stays true to like, you know, our math core influences. RYAN RAYLE (02:46.412) I can. RYAN RAYLE (02:52.332) Okay, yeah, let's go down that road a little bit. For those that aren't familiar with CultBurner, give us like a little background on when you guys formed and what the sound is like. Has it evolved over the years to what we're at currently? Brett Roos (03:08.114) Yeah, it actually started Ian and I got together. I had just moved to Austin. In fact, the second day that I was in Austin, Ian and I got together and started hanging out. And then we started talking about playing music together. And he was like, yeah, I know a guy that plays drums. And that's when we got together with Austin. And we just started trying to come up with some ideas. We wanted to write something. Like I had a bunch of ideas for riffs that were, you know, just aggressive. didn't like my, my other band that I was playing in plays all standard e-tuning. And I wanted to play something that was down tuned and a little heavier. then Ian had ideas. started throwing riffs back together or back to each other. And then, got Austin to join. And, and, it was just, started writing music together and it was, it just turned into something interesting, something that every, everything we wrote just sounded like that, like mean face like that, you know, angry. RYAN RAYLE (04:02.89) yeah. Yeah. Austin (04:04.471) a little bit of a stank face. Ian (04:04.862) It was kind of like we had this Scarlet worship, because we would talk about how like there aren't that many bands that kind of sound like that whole era of like hardcore, chaotic hardcore. I say chaotic hardcore. I miss calling things that I know there are a thousand sub genres. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. RYAN RAYLE (04:23.756) I'll get naked if I have to. Ian (04:26.074) I'll be into it. So it's like, I would say it's like chaotic hardcore and mathy because Brett makes the mathy Brett writes things that sound for four, but are like 3.65 pi divided by Yeah, but it doesn't sound it sounds for for a little bit and then you watch people in the crowd who are like bobbing their heads to four four and then the five will come in and then they're like, no, I don't get it and then they're back. Brett Roos (04:39.026) To me, everything is 4-4. RYAN RAYLE (04:45.166) You RYAN RAYLE (04:49.088) it- Ian (04:54.238) and then they don't get it and then they're back. But it's... RYAN RAYLE (04:56.846) Can I just interject with two things? A, I am definitely that person in the crowd, 100%, because you can't know every song by every band, but you can kind of fill it in. But I have caught myself to your music doing exactly that, whereas, shit, okay, there's another one. And and now we're back, okay. Cause I'll play, I'll play your music when I go for runs. Just because like you said, Ian, the music is, is chaotic, but it's mathy. So you can time things. And then all of a sudden you're just moving and grooving, doing your best personal mile. And the next thing you know, you turned a five mile run into a hundred meter sprint just because somebody decided to go, and next thing you know, you're just out of breath. But, Austin (05:33.483) Mm-hmm. Ian (05:48.691) Yes. RYAN RAYLE (05:50.447) I can confirm that a Cultburner show does not disappoint. That's one of the reasons why I wanted you guys on the showcase. Ian, how do you know Austin and then how did you meet Brett? Ian (06:05.694) met Austin. you want to? Austin hasn't talked. Let's let Austin talk. Sorry, I'm going to. RYAN RAYLE (06:08.024) Yeah, Austin, yeah, Austin, please. should start. I actually meant that Austin, how did you meet Ian and then Ian, how did you meet Brett? was trying to go in my little, my little Brady brunch square here. So my apologies. Austin (06:10.467) So, yeah, it'll fun. Austin (06:20.151) So I've known Ian now for what, over 10 years? Getting on closer over 10 years. We played in several different bands together. First during a band called The Bearer. And then later we played in a group called Coacher. RYAN RAYLE (06:25.56) Shit yeah. RYAN RAYLE (06:33.966) Okay, I need to take a moment. The Bearer was one of the first bands, actually I think you guys were on the showcase. Where's the flyer? You guys had to be on the showcase, right? Ian (06:48.604) Yes, a resounding sure. RYAN RAYLE (06:49.826) Yeah, hold on. It's Austin (06:51.191) It is also possible that neither of us were in the band at the time, so. Ian (06:56.111) It depends on how long ago. RYAN RAYLE (06:56.246) okay. Austin (06:58.231) There were several levels of member changes that happened. RYAN RAYLE (07:02.446) There's layers. Okay, so I will say that I am familiar with the bear. It does hold a little special place in my heart. sorry, Austin, please go on. Austin (07:14.175) you're good. So yeah, no, I actually was playing guitar in that band at the time. And, you know, me and Ian were good friends. And then he contacted me about playing drums for another band later. And we've just kind of done that off and on for the last decade or so. Hanging out, making music. RYAN RAYLE (07:30.262) Okay. Nice. So Ian, how was the link up between you and Brett? Ian (07:37.615) We had played, you were in, he was doing a tour with Arsenis, Get All The Girls, right? You were filling in. Yeah, and I was playing in designs and we played a show together. And I don't know how much we talked then, but I think it was more of just an Instagram follow. And then I saw he was like, hey, he was posting something about wanting to move to Austin or Florida. And I was like, well, hey, let's hang out and I'll show you around Austin. I always feel like it's important. Brett Roos (07:43.174) Yeah, yeah, I was doing guitar for them. Ian (08:02.642) to give people that like, you you can't just show up to a city and expect them to know everything or anyone. So I just wanted to give him more of that sort of like, here's a friendly face, someone who was in the community that you're in, and this is what Austin, the city, not the person, which is how I will refer to Austin forever now, maybe the city or the person now. But yeah, I wanted to give him that chance to kind of see a different side that he might not have seen had he just kind of come and hung out with whomever. So yeah, and that's pretty much how Brett and I kind of became fast friends. RYAN RAYLE (08:38.552) Man, that's, that's, I thank you for that. That's pretty cool that you kind of stepped up and became like the representative of Austin as a person, you know, like. Ian (08:49.406) Well, that's what someone had done for me. Like when I was living in Virginia, I was like, we all are in that bad place in our life. We're just kind of like, you know, we need to move. And a lot of people say you shouldn't move when you're in a bad place. And I kind of disagree. Like I moved when I was in a really bad place and Austin, like I love this city. It has saved my life. I, so someone did that for me, which helped me stay here. And so I, anytime someone's like, dude, I'm not feeling good. like, come to Austin. I know that's a chagrin for people to be like, get out of Austin, but RYAN RAYLE (09:18.553) Yeah. Ian (09:18.92) We're not bringing in like data center tech bros. No offense to anyone if that is your thing, but you know, I bring in hopefully friends that are a little more subculture that that's, you know, that's what Austin is. You know, it's a cool city of subcultures. RYAN RAYLE (09:33.687) I, I, man, do you, can you come work? Can you come like be a cohost? That's, I, I have not heard it put that way. I don't think ever. Maybe I've heard it in various forms, but that's man, that is so I'm a transplant as well. For those that don't know, I'm, from North Carolina. So not, so not too far from Ian stomping grounds. We're probably, you know, and, and a Ian (09:39.869) Yeah. Ian (09:54.455) RYAN RAYLE (10:00.751) Odessa to Corpus Christi drive away from each other, right? And I, you know, came here and followed my oldest daughter and I actually traded one kind of family that was in North Carolina for another with the podcast. mean, the whole plan was just to follow my oldest daughter here and bing. Somebody got the ringtone on? I fucking told you. told, no I'm kidding. So you can't really mute your computer. Ian (10:23.504) me. It's on my computer. Josh, I know like, it's like, it's Joshua being like, dude, I miss it. And then we're trying to be like, no, you're good. So he's like, I don't know how to turn I could do it. I work in it. And here I am not knowing how to turn off the text. Austin (10:30.177) So that's Josh about to this right now. RYAN RAYLE (10:37.271) love you. RYAN RAYLE (10:44.239) See, ladies and gentlemen, this is why we love to do this because the most random things happen during the most precious moments. But no, no, no, you're fine, man. So long story short, the music community is actually what has kept us here. Like my wife and I have had multiple conversations about leaving and going back to North Carolina. But one of my pros or one of my pluses for this place is, you know, artists like you guys and people that Ian (10:51.752) Sorry. RYAN RAYLE (11:12.813) we hang out with and welcome into the community and say, Hey, let me show you around properly. I've extended my, you know, limited knowledge of the Austin scene to multiple people that have, you know, asked about moving here from, other bands. I remember a guy named Taylor Gorman, the front man for a band called bystander. he came down and did like, I like a week long visit, ate all the barbecue, went to all the bars and just, he was like, dude, I'm moving back. I'm moving back. Like I will be here and now he's here and he's thriving and you know, shout out to Bystander. So. Brett Roos (11:47.432) Mm-hmm. Ian (11:47.851) He's good friends with Joshua. I think Joshua knows him to some capacity. RYAN RAYLE (11:51.664) He, he is an everything everywhere kind of guy. mean, he actually took some photos for a taco truck that ended up as like a Michelin star candidate or something. he also does music. He has a podcast studio that he can rent. So, you know, he's, he's got, he's doing a lot of things and it's, just goes to the point that you can come here seeking a new thing, right? It's not always bad to move when it's a bad time. change is hard. Change is tough. but you know, that's just a part of us being us, right? So I don't really know where to, I should just, thank you for coming to our Ted Talk. This is Cult Burner. I'm right here. All right, let's shift gears a little bit. December 6th, we got the showcase coming up. You guys, how long has Cult Burner been gigging as the unit that is Cult Burner that will be on the stage? Brett Roos (12:31.721) Thank Austin (12:46.963) a year now with the current lineup, right? Josh joined about a year ago. Brett Roos (12:49.82) Yeah, I'd say about a year. Austin (12:53.451) We had a couple series of singers that tried out different people and had a hard time finding the right fit and finally found the guy with Joshua. RYAN RAYLE (12:54.807) Sorry. RYAN RAYLE (13:08.855) I will say that I did witness a couple of those. I'm not going to say good or bad, but my question is since like picking your vocalist is a very, I guess I'll put it to the band, like, and you can say as little or as light as you want, but when it comes to picking your vocalist, it's, you, are you trying to pick the vocalist to fit the band or do you guys go outside of that and go, well, do they have this, this and this to match? you know, whatever the crowd wants. I mean, how do you, how do you pick a vocalist? Austin (13:42.818) feel like for us, we were really more worried about finding someone that obviously number one mesh with us as a person, as a musician and all that, but also wasn't scared to just go for it. and oddly we had a really hard time with finding people that would just dive into it and, not really, you know, I won't say not ask questions, but like have a little bit of, self-worth and like knowing that what they're doing is good enough and RYAN RAYLE (13:55.663) Austin (14:12.661) you know, being confident maybe is the right way to put it. We just had a little bit of trouble finding someone who was confident enough to just sort of jump in with us and take that plunge. And that's what we found with Josh, I think. RYAN RAYLE (14:25.945) Brett, do you think the music that you write commands a vocalist that like, just needs to like deliver this message? I need, cause I mean, you're pretty much, you're pretty much like, who's the riff writer? Let's start there. Who's the riff writer? wait, hold on. Everyone point at Brett. All right. All right. Somewhere on the Brady Bunch scale. Austin (14:49.335) wherever he is. Ian (14:50.907) Bread. RYAN RAYLE (14:55.023) So yeah, how does it translate when you write the riffs? I know that, you know, vocals and guitar, but I'm also, love my percussion, me and Austin, you know what I'm saying? But I know like, what is it like to write a riff knowing that you may have to change a vocalist down the road? Brett Roos (15:13.961) Um, I mean, I've just been, I guess I've been playing in bands for so long where I'm used to writing the guitar parts, thinking of what, when I write, I think of what the vocals are going to be like, expecting also that it's going to be completely different. So when I hear the vocals come in, it's a total surprise to me, um, of what they sound like. Now do give my input on it. I'm a terrible lyricist. I'm not a singer. Um, I feel like I can write rhythms pretty good. Um, but yeah, when I write the music, like the guitar parts and stuff. mean, I just expect the vocals to come in and we figure it out. Sometimes a lot of, if we have to change anything, it's usually how many times we do something versus necessarily changing the riff altogether. Austin (15:58.241) Mm-hmm. RYAN RAYLE (15:58.489) Yeah, because I mean, the music that you guys create, like Austin said, it demands almost you have to, like I said, you got to let go. You got to bring it. You got to put it all out there, as they say. I just, couldn't even imagine trying to be the vocalist in your band. It's got to be. I wish you were here, Josh. You could answer the question for us. But I know that you guys are absolute killers on the stage. I've been watching Ian dance around the stage for God knows how long I've been here. Ian, you're one of the best performers I've ever seen on stage. And I think I've said that to you in passing or in the past, but that's why I love throwing these shows is the bands that are on this bill fucking show up. I mean, I've had a, I'll be honest. I look at my flyers every day. mean, I'm really fucking proud of these, you know, $15 of art up here, but it's, I've had some stinkers. I've had some, you know, some shit happens and it just doesn't go the way that you want it to go. And I fully, you know, I expect that, but I do know that the bands that I humbly asked to show up and put on a show do show the fuck up. And I'm... Just if I haven't said it before, thank you guys for jumping on the bill. I'm really excited to have you guys possibly make some new friends, some new fans. And that's what it's really about is the showcase blends a lot of genres and you guys are that fucking wild card in my opinion. I just. Austin (17:40.981) I think that's really... Ian (17:41.406) think that's what we always fit though, that crossover band. And I think that's what I want. Like back in the day, I used to watch, back in the day, but you would see like Dead Guy and Lifetime, and then Botch. And it was like, none of those bands make sense, but you would get to see bands like that. you know, and again, music is rad, but sometimes it gets hard to hear five beat down bands in a row with a dude saying, all right. Get the fuck up front, we're gonna fuck it. You know, you're just like, my God, dude. And there's no offense to anyone, I think that stuff is awesome, but there's like this over-saturation with it. But to go back real quick, like with the going nuts live thing, like that's what's so impressive about Brett is that, and the reason why I wanted to play with Brett is because he does that. he, no, he is more so than I am. And that's what was like, I want that in a band. When you have like, RYAN RAYLE (18:07.63) You RYAN RAYLE (18:13.25) Yeah. RYAN RAYLE (18:27.908) he ain't no slouch either. Ian (18:36.018) And Austin hits so hard that I don't care if he's fucking throwing his drums all over the place. It's so professionally loud that it makes sense to me that he's locked in. with having the front being, we're not like Dillinger Escape Plan, but we are like Show Up because it makes sense. But Brett is a dude that... RYAN RAYLE (18:42.722) haha Ian (19:01.744) Watching him play to me like any video any photos I've seen it like I'm proud to be up front with like Bret and then Joshua has come into his own a lot since RYAN RAYLE (19:12.522) my God, speaking of Joshua, you guys ready for this? Here he comes, the man, the myth, the legend. Let's see if this even works. Ian (19:16.221) Yeah. Ian (19:22.782) Yay! Austin (19:23.994) Yeah RYAN RAYLE (19:24.354) Hey, you joined in portrait mode. Can you flip it horizontal for us real quick? Boom. With the... Bro, the library is I can't believe it. Are you there studying for the show? Ian (19:31.102) guys Brett Roos (19:36.497) It was like a ghost. Ian (19:39.014) Yeah, they're ghostbusters! Brett Roos (19:43.741) You don't need to see us. Ian (19:44.048) no. RYAN RAYLE (19:44.192) well, I just got another warning that said your device may not have enough storage and is running low. You gotta clear out the cache in that web browser. You know what I'm saying? RYAN RAYLE (20:05.23) All right, well, let's get the important stuff out before we cram up all of your storage. Introduce yourself. Now you're good. Introduce yourself, what you do in the band, where you're from, and then we'll just keep going. RYAN RAYLE (20:30.71) Okay, also, I guess we'll real quick, do you guys get together? Do you guys get together once a month, every two weeks? Like how does jamming go? Ian (20:40.849) Yeah, pretty much, well, like, yeah, every couple of weeks, yeah, we'll get up. And at the space where a lot of bands like to practice, so I see a lot of different guys from the scene coming in. I know I've seen the guy from Soul Exchange there before. But yeah. Austin (20:40.918) every couple weeks. RYAN RAYLE (20:57.228) Is it called The Space? Brett Roos (20:57.385) We usually make a new fan every time we play it and we practice there. We usually have somebody who's hanging outside the room and just like, you guys sound crazy. Ian (21:00.733) Yeah, it's called The Space. RYAN RAYLE (21:06.542) You guys have groupies before they become groupies. You just walk in, hit a riff, come back out and all of a sudden you've got four more Instagram followers. Austin (21:13.43) We have actually had someone walk in the room before and see who we were. Just someone walking by. RYAN RAYLE (21:19.114) really? Ian (21:20.541) Oh yeah. I know the guys that work there. Yeah, the guys that work there are like, you guys are the loudest band here. I'm like, well, that's a compliment. I want that to be, but it's like ska, which Austin would love. There's like ska going on next to us, which you know, it's horn. So they're loud. Austin (21:46.826) Valheller. Ian (21:56.364) yeah. Ian (22:13.725) He found us on Instagram, I think, and he was like, when are you guys playing? And I was like, oh, tonight there's a flyer. And he's like, okay, I'll be there. And he was, I thought he was from like Russia. I don't know though. He was from somewhere. Yeah, same thing. Exactly. RYAN RAYLE (22:26.444) New York, Russia, what a, man out. Brett Roos (22:29.275) If you're listening, shoot us a message and tell us where you're from. Austin (22:36.438) Papers, papers. RYAN RAYLE (22:40.59) I'm sorry. I'm sorry. RYAN RAYLE (23:12.462) I don't know what you guys are laughing at, but I'm just curious like what book he's gonna pull off the shelf next but Tell you what grab grab the third from the left open up to the middle chapter and tell us about how you became the vocalist of Colburner All right, he's reaching he grabbed it. Okay He's looking for the book. There it is. He's got it Austin (23:18.934) Thanks. RYAN RAYLE (23:39.778) No, no, there it is. There it is. There's the book. Ian (23:52.829) Get to work. RYAN RAYLE (23:53.439) shout out, fortunes. Ian (24:31.939) message Instagram, the culprit or one and then I was like, I'm going to take this over to my side. So I don't feel like I'm, you know, it feels a little bit more personal from my personal RYAN RAYLE (24:43.04) yeah. Ian (24:58.203) Not even, no, because you're on the Bandcamp song. Ian (25:45.768) like that we have a connection to San Antonio. San Antonio has such a cool scene as well. Their scene is a little bit more solidified and the kids there are so nice. Not to say the people in Austin aren't either, but it's just different. But I really do like the San Antonio scene. It's really RYAN RAYLE (26:03.15) Dude, just for, and I shouldn't even say this, but I mean, we are currently competing with Fit for a King and Currents and 156 Silence. They're playing in San Antonio on December 6th, the same time we're, like, I didn't plan it. I already had this shit locked in. They actually, probably had it locked in a year ago, to be honest. Let's, mean, it's, dude, they're like, Austin (26:27.056) You know those guys can you just ask them to hold off for a day? RYAN RAYLE (26:30.398) They're like a year and a half out. mean, whenever Anthony hits me up, he actually just talked to the other day. He was like, man, I've got like eight announcements to make on Tuesday and it's all like next year shit. I mean, these people are planning like down the road because I mean, once you get to a certain, I guess, tier, for lack of better words, you really have to start like figuring things out exponentially. Let me ask this. does cult burner want to be national famous or like texas famous? Brett Roos (27:06.666) We're trying to just be famous in just my house. RYAN RAYLE (27:09.591) Ha Brett Roos (27:15.754) We're not very well known yet. RYAN RAYLE (27:16.908) He's like, he's like the, he's like the cul-de-sac would work, Ryan. I don't need a whole state. need just the six people that live here. man. That was good. That thanks, Bret That, that, touched my soul. You want to be local famous. Austin (27:23.24) I'm gonna start small. Brett Roos (27:34.152) No, you know, we're just, we're having a good time playing music. Honestly, I don't know that there's much of an agenda as far as what level of success we're trying to achieve. A lot of us in the band, we've toured, we've been in national acts before. That'd be cool. But when you put this thing together, we were just kind of like, let's just write the music that we want to write and we'll see whatever comes from it. Ian (27:57.702) to be more punk rock about it. We were like, let's just, and we've had to turn down shows now, but we were like, let's just play every single show, no matter what. And we're doing that. We're just playing every show. didn't matter what it was. I still like that idea. National, to be national, great, that'd be nice, but I would like to be national in the old school way, when bands like Death Wish were out. You may have never seen The Blinding Light, but. you knew who they were because they were on a rad label. They might've never made it to California or wherever, but you knew who they were. And I like that. I like the thought that you can reach other people in whatever, even different countries without needing to have to tour constantly. Though that would be nice, you know, it'd be nice to, we want to play everywhere, but we're also adults with jobs and things of that nature. you know, but on that level, that doesn't mean we should be disqualified from being able to. get to have fun and spread art and remain viable in Art Tour. At least that's how I view it. RYAN RAYLE (29:00.631) Awesome, what about you? Austin (29:03.36) I love writing music. I love writing music that's a little weird, a little out there, definitely really heavy. And I love playing shows. Whatever else comes in between, know, whatever else can come of that's great. But I love playing shows and I love writing music. If I can do those two things, I'm pretty happy. RYAN RAYLE (29:23.352) All right. Yeah, I'm of the same ilk. Like, you know, I've got a day job and I've got this. mean, like you guys don't make a lot of money from it, sadly, but you you do it for the love. You do it for the passion. And again, that's one of the reasons why I wanted you guys on stage is because I know that that level of give a shit is there. And that regardless of the show, the venue, the lineup, the date, the time, like, Cult burner is going to show up and be like, Hey, what's up? Or Cult burner. Here we go. And then it's just madness ensues. So I'm a Austin (30:05.462) We talk a lot about wanting to get on stage and basically punch people in the face from the first note. And I hope that we accomplish that. Ian (30:12.667) and get punched and yeah, it's about like, is about, it has always been about with me and I think a lot of us have that same philosophy. Like it is hurting yourself on stage. Like it is, like, I don't know if you can even see like there's like a neck burn from like the strap, like bloody fingers. just no, but it's just like hurting your neck, walking away and not being able to hold your head up because you've just like given yourself probably a concussion, but it is like. RYAN RAYLE (30:14.05) and get Austin (30:40.31) bang overs. RYAN RAYLE (30:41.295) the best bang over ever. Ian (30:43.345) Yeah. And yeah, that's the problem. I will say the problem. And I hate saying that, but it's like watching bands. just feels like there's no violence anymore. Like people are heavy and a friend of Brett's, he had talked about this on a podcast as well. Like people sound heavy, but they're not angry. You know, like everyone sounds heavy. Everyone sounds like, you know, polished and they're, they're tuned to G sharp, whatever. And they have the most pedals, but it's just like, they're not. RYAN RAYLE (30:49.295) You RYAN RAYLE (31:02.311) Ooh. Ian (31:11.437) angry it's just it's just heavy music and I get that that's the spectrum of music it doesn't always have to be angry and pissed but I think a lot of these bands cosplay that like anger but then they just stand still on stage or they just play the same and again I don't I don't I don't told myself I wasn't gonna be mean like that but it's my opinion and I can totally be wrong that's just me but I like that's why I love bands like dead guy will never you know bands that are pissed Johnny booth that's another band that just is so just they sound mad. The minor times they sound pissed. They sound like they have a bone to pick with you. And I love that kind of stuff. That's where I come from with music. think we all hopefully we mesh, but you know, that's me. I talked a lot. I'm gonna shut up. RYAN RAYLE (31:57.647) No, you're great Ian. I appreciate that. that's, this is why I love to have these like one-on-ones is because you actually really get to know like why this musician is putting out this music is like, or, you know, or this is the music I'm putting out because of these reasons. Like I want to get on stage. I want to lose my mind. I want you to come punch me in the face. I want to have a fucking neck scar, you know, like. I want, and then we want, I want you to also buy my merch and come to the next show at this other place. But like, it's just being in the room with people and I, you know, rest in peace, dirty dog. But I do, I love small, I love small venues. You know, I love come and take it. They've been, they've been with us since the inception. And that's where we started was dirty dog. And that's where all of these shows started at. So I don't want to forget my roots and I want to bring people in there. They're to cause. Ian (32:36.701) Ugh. RYAN RAYLE (32:52.84) absolute insanity. Cause like you said, not everybody, like I'm going to have polished bands and then I'm going to have cult burner, right? Like there's going to be a blend of, of fucking, you know, acoustic sounds that are going to literally punch you in the face. Cause our boy, our boy Taylor, Taylor's on the, on the mix board. So he's going to, he's going to turn tomato weights up if, if you got some sub drops, but I just, go ahead. Brett Roos (33:19.572) So, just so we're clear, Brett does not want anyone to come punch him in the face. I'm hurting enough just getting up on stage. RYAN RAYLE (33:25.06) yeah, don't punch Brett in the face. OK, we're going to. Hold on, I if I can put the little just do not punch Brett in the face, I don't know if I'm going to be able to pull that off in post, but I really I'm a try it. But but no. Yeah, punch Brett in the sorry, we're going to be worried. Ian (33:38.845) I think you spelled punch Brett in the face wrong. Ian (33:44.092) Oops. Brett Roos (33:44.746) I've been hit enough times at shows. I think I've taken a fair beating that a five foot tall eight guy can. RYAN RAYLE (33:51.663) Dude, do not hate on 5-8. Okay, that is a solid. There's a solid stature in this in this planet. Okay Hey, you boys 5-8. I've been I've been in I've been in liftees for a while. Okay, okay Don't hate on 5-8 Brett Roos (33:57.37) It's a good height. Ian (33:58.621) That rhymed! That rhymed, wow! Is that not a flag? Do not hate on 5A. Brett Roos (34:10.57) I remember when we were starting to get this band going and we had Ian and Austin and me and then we were finding vocalists and all the vocalists were hella tall also. And I was just like the short, I look like the smallest guy ever in every picture. RYAN RAYLE (34:14.892) I don't RYAN RAYLE (34:29.198) It's just- Brett Roos (34:31.4) Yeah, we needed Josh. We needed to balance it out. RYAN RAYLE (34:31.884) Yeah, he shows up. You're like, yeah, okay, now now we're on the same playing field. Okay. Everybody get together short to tall come on kids. man Brett Roos (34:41.715) Yeah. Austin (34:46.806) pretty sure we actually could do that on purpose at one point. Brett Roos (34:46.897) Exactly. RYAN RAYLE (34:50.158) I would love nothing more than to see you guys hugging each other in the ugliest Christmas sweaters as like a Christmas card. I would pay $5 for that. RYAN RAYLE (35:10.306) Ahem. RYAN RAYLE (35:33.784) Talk about steak sauce mustache. Is that the right one? The ones with the noodles and shit in a... Fuck, you guys, did you guys play Acadia? Yeah, right? Yeah, you guys played Acadia, the monster mat. God, what was the last one? The monster mat? No, I'm thinking of something else. I did see steak sauce there. That's where I saw you, right Brett? Yes, that's right. Brett Roos (36:00.619) We're at. RYAN RAYLE (36:02.111) in Houston. Acadia Bar? Brett Roos (36:05.233) yeah, yeah, we've played there before. RYAN RAYLE (36:07.169) Yeah, like the last, the very last show that they were throwing. Brett Roos (36:12.734) Yeah, it was the last show that was going on. It was the festival that was going on there with See You Next Tuesday. Yeah. RYAN RAYLE (36:17.825) Mammoth Fest, Mammoth Fest 3. Yes, okay. I knew, okay, there was two memories that were like kind of broken in my brain and they just got put back together. So that works. Whew, man. Okay, I've taken up enough of your time. We're nearing the end. Since you guys are of madness and chaos, I don't, so we're gonna go Brett, Brett, we're gonna, then we're gonna go Austin, then we're gonna go like JOSH and then we're gonna go Ian. Okay, I want the craziest pit story that you've either been a part of or witnessed. Brett, you're first. Brett Roos (36:55.508) for our band or any band. RYAN RAYLE (36:57.405) It literally any band. You could, like I said, you could have been on stage witnessing this mosh pit, or you could have been in the crowd at a show and either been a part of it or also witnessed it. Brett Roos (37:11.902) I I would say honestly, almost every single steak sauce mustache mosh pit, it's probably the most, I'm not saying that it's the most violent or the most wild, but I'm saying it's definitely the most insane. It's the weirdest, that's for sure. And I like that. RYAN RAYLE (37:15.981) It's wild. RYAN RAYLE (37:25.453) Yes, I can vouch for that. If you've never seen that show, I guess they, you are out of still Oregon, Or Washington? Brett Roos (37:37.288) I live, yeah, we're actually living five different parts of the country now. So yeah, but yeah, I would say Mammoth Fest 3. Just looking at pictures of it. It is zany. RYAN RAYLE (37:41.078) well, fuck. Okay. Ian (37:42.746) Hahaha! RYAN RAYLE (37:49.026) I bet I could probably dig around in the archives and probably, I definitely took a shit ton of footage. Man, dude, could you share some? Later, just after, later? Dude, okay, we got a whole, ladies and gentlemen, we have a whole folder, a fucking folder. Brett Roos (37:52.638) I've got some, I've got pictures of it. Brett Roos (37:57.845) I'll send them, I'll send you the whole entire folder. Yep. yeah, organized. I am into organization. The container store is my favorite store. RYAN RAYLE (38:09.655) Bro, you... I think Don't Hate on 5H should be like the next single. Just play some shit. mean, you know, let it ride. Anyway, Austin, what about you, brother? Austin (38:09.811) Which is ironic considering the music that you write is all over the- Brett Roos (38:16.21) It's all about balance. Austin (38:23.103) There you go. craziest pit story for a show that I've played was in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It was a long slingshot room and all the merch tables are on one side and the pit ended up going the entire length of the room just constant, you know, people up and down doing the arms back, you know, being really aggressive and to the point where we're like all holding up the table so we don't get squished. And, you know, we weren't in a hardcore band. We were like a emo band at the time. we're going to get like our We're to get killed on stage. They're like, we're not heavy enough for this shit. And our time to play comes up and the same huge fucking guy that we saw doing all the back shots the whole time sees us get on stage and everyone get the fuck out of the way and like cleared a path for us so we could get our gear. Are you OK? You need some help? So it's just a really funny juxtaposition to see this huge dude laying waste in the pit. and then being very concerned that we were okay and ready to get on stage like five minutes later. Not a super crazy story, but it's one that always stuck with me. RYAN RAYLE (39:32.717) No, those are the ones that count. What about you, brother? Brett Roos (39:38.356) Josh. Austin (39:38.607) Ian? John. RYAN RAYLE (39:38.83) Yep, Josh. RYAN RAYLE (39:53.162) And shout out to the house shows. RYAN RAYLE (40:20.365) Okay, we got the we got the first one come okay, I like this. I guess where it's going. Austin (41:01.909) you RYAN RAYLE (41:15.597) It's like them robots that fucking you know, ping. Yeah, it was definitely fun. Don't talk about Fight Club. Those rules. Yes. my god. Brett Roos (41:17.586) It was like a scene from Fight Club. Austin (41:17.845) Brett Roos (41:23.594) It's just one man fighting himself. Brett Roos (41:29.384) Right in front of everyone. RYAN RAYLE (41:30.861) just in the middle of the pit and he's just going to town and everybody's like, is he okay? And they're like, no, no, no, that's his thing. That's his thing. Just let him be. Ian, round us out. Brett Roos (41:36.936) Yep, exactly. Austin (41:38.345) It's yeah, it's bad, but he's fine. Ian (41:45.825) God, I've been going to shows since 1988 when I was like 13. My first show ever was Menace, Reign of Terror and OTT. Those were like, I remember at war played as well. Those were like local metal bands back then. So out of all of those, I'm the old guy, of course, but stick to running. That's why I look amazing and I'm ripped. And back squat, like run far, run fast, back squat a lot. RYAN RAYLE (41:53.047) Holy shit. RYAN RAYLE (42:13.997) Hell yeah. Ian (42:15.068) But there's this band, Unbroken, that I was lucky enough to play so many shows with back in the day when I was younger. their guitar player, Eric Allen, had killed himself. He literally got drunk in his bathtub and slit his wrist. So Unbroken had a show. They didn't play for very long time. And Unbroken had a show. It might be one of their first kind of string of shows back since Eric. And... I remember they got up there and the center was just like, let's all have a moment of silence for Eric. And they shut off the lights and it was pitch black and everybody, it was like a couple hundred people and it was dead silent. And I remember all I heard was one, two, three, four, and they fucking went nuts. And the lights came on. And I remember it was like, that was like my like punch in the face, like hold that was, it was so rock and roll. Like I'll never forget the experience. RYAN RAYLE (43:13.325) man. Ian (43:13.946) Explosion of music and light after like because normally there's chatter at a show there are people kind of and this was everyone focused on that moment of silence for this dude who unfortunately took his life way too soon under horrible, sir, you know sadness depression and that That instance in hardcore was like you can't get that anywhere. You can't I mean, maybe you can I don't know but most modern pop music can't punch you in the face like that explosive like demonstration of how awesome hardcore music is or metal, same thing. Yeah, that's mine. So, and I'm sticking with it. RYAN RAYLE (43:51.64) Man, left turn at the bridge, you know what I'm saying? Very, yeah. Thank you for sharing that. That's, mean, the fact that, yeah. Ian (43:59.537) That's Unbroken. Thank you Unbroken for sharing that. If you know who Unbroken are, listen to them. It's just, such a great hardcore band. That's like the beginning of metalcore for me. Early 90s. RYAN RAYLE (44:10.239) Okay, I will put that on the running list. You know what I'm saying? Go out there and set some new personal records. Ian (44:15.441) Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah, their first album, but then when you get closer to their later stuff. so good. They found their sound. Anyway, sorry. RYAN RAYLE (44:30.763) No, no, thank you. That's, and that's kind of why I also love doing this is you get to learn about like, I've never heard of that band or the other two that you mentioned. So now it's going to be like this whole new experience for me, knowing what I know provided, you know, from your personal experience. And that's, that's why I love doing this. That's why I love getting everybody, you know, I will finish my studio one day, but until I do, this is the best that this is, you know, as long as you try and make that effort to connect with people, I think that's worth it going through life. Ian (44:37.29) my god. RYAN RAYLE (45:00.741) and coming to these shows, interacting with the artists that give you, that gets you through tough times, gets you through good times. Like I have jammed local music specifically for a certain reason, place, you know, mindset, feeling, and it's happy, I'm happy because I can turn around and go, hey, Ian, the other day I played this song or hey, Brett or Austin, like, hey guys, y'all got me through a fucking Tuesday. Ian (45:30.012) But we have to thank you. Like, I'm gonna tell you to shut up. I don't care about your feelings. We have to thank you. You have been doing this, dude, since I moved to Austin, like you and Chris, right? You started it? Chris for pro. RYAN RAYLE (45:30.114) You know what mean? RYAN RAYLE (45:40.366) Yeah, 2014, we just, we just surpassed our 10th year and, uh, you know, sadly, I, you know, I do miss my boy Crow, but he's just down the street. He, uh, he kind of turned the reins over to me about, uh, 2021 post COVID. He was like, Hey, you know, I've had a good run at it. And, uh, you know, the show is yours. And I remember, uh, just to kind of full circle this, I'm a, I'm a give like, I'm gonna give this much of an exclusive, uh, but not to take away from you guys, but it is, it does. Austin (45:59.637) Mm. Ian (46:09.532) It's your show. RYAN RAYLE (46:09.997) kind of, it kind of makes this whole 2014 is when we started November 2nd or 4th. We can't really nail down the time, but I think Facebook has it at like November 2nd. So we throw our first year, the first show, December of 2015 or maybe September. can't read it up there, but a year later. So then we've just been doing this every year that we can. And the reason that we met was because he used to listen to 101X, no control radio when it was over there. And he would listen to Chuck Chuck Loesch, right? Thank you, Chuck Loesch for no control radio HD to 93.7. You better tune in. And he would give away tickets. And Chris was always up when he gave away tickets. So he would win a lot of tickets. So we won some tickets. He invited me. We go to a show at Dirty Dog. It was like Black Tide and Threat Signal and somebody else. And on the way home, he's like, do you want to start a podcast? So that's how it started. Fast forward 10, 11 years later, I'm still throwing shows. Ian (46:39.644) Chuck. Yeah, so awesome. Yeah. RYAN RAYLE (47:08.141) Chris and I, we're still friends. Everything is still on the up and up and now I have a chance to host an hour long show on No Control Radio. Yeah, dude. it's gonna, working title is called The Texas Takeover and we are going to feature nothing, nothing but Texas bands from the full spectrum. So basically, Ian (47:18.864) Nice! Awesome. Austin (47:19.234) That's awesome. RYAN RAYLE (47:34.328) take the showcase that I throw and then just throw that on steroids. And it's, I don't know how far back I can go. I think we have to figure out the timeline, like, all right, everything from 85 forward or something like that. But once we get all the details worked out, it will literally be a Texas run, Texas owned, Texas joint venture of local, regional and state music. So that way we can just tie it all together. start doing tours like, hey, catch it out on 93.7 and HD2. Now I may be being a little more boisterous about that side of things, but right now we are in talks with, you know, getting on the radio. So I'm pretty... Ian (48:15.452) That's awesome. Yeah. But no, thank you so much. Austin (48:17.097) Heck yeah. Brett Roos (48:17.524) It's just one hour of the riff from it's one hour of the riff from walk by Pantera. Just one hour. RYAN RAYLE (48:22.155) Yeah, just just take that and just play. Maybe jump in every now and again and be like, thanks to the. yeah, just. But anyway, anyway, so yeah, I. No, dude. Austin (48:22.965) Yeah, I'm a banana, banana. Austin (48:29.855) We... SPA- Ian (48:38.492) No, thank you so much for what you do. Like you are just as integral as what there would be no scene without people like you doing exactly. I think about, see your posts and I think about you regularly. Like that's like James from, my God, why am I James from the brewing company who always puts on. Yes. Yes. One of the nicest guys, like guys like you and him and Brett Roos (48:41.514) Yeah, absolutely. RYAN RAYLE (48:54.122) thanks. RYAN RAYLE (48:59.917) Texas medal, Gonzalez. Ian (49:07.068) and many others just are the Texas scene. There's no Texas scene, or at least in Austin, without what you guys do to support, and we support you in every way. So thank you. RYAN RAYLE (49:16.621) Well, thank you. Thank you. I definitely try to stay humble. I don't ask for much. I just love chatting with you guys. I love learning to know more about you, because then when we show up and we see each other in person, we have that much more to talk about. so with all that, thank you guys for jumping in. I'll turn the floor over. We'll do round robin. Just go around and any ats or thank yous or any type of shout outs that you want to get out. to include where people can follow you guys on the socials. And then we'll wrap it up. Brett Roos (49:53.451) Yeah, definitely. Well, we're on Instagram and YouTube, Cult Burner on there. yeah, shout out to us. RYAN RAYLE (50:03.681) Yeah, shout out to Cult Burner Brett Roos (50:06.134) Shout out to us for being here. RYAN RAYLE (50:09.442) love it. Ian (50:13.968) Austin. RYAN RAYLE (50:15.399) yeah. Sorry. I keep forgetting. It's like my rotation is not the same for everybody. So probably something like looking down to the right and up and to the left. Anyway, Austin. Brett Roos (50:15.435) I'm just talking. Austin (50:15.849) I love you. Ian (50:17.37) Same order. Ian (50:25.606) in D &P terms initiative that's been rolled. Austin (50:26.933) Well, I don't really have any socials anymore, so I'll just say thanks to you for having us on the show and thanks to these three idiots for playing with me. I freaking love it. RYAN RAYLE (50:37.687) Nice. Brett Roos (50:40.428) I'm no longer in the band since I was called an idiot. I'm offended and I have left. RYAN RAYLE (50:42.743) Ha ha ha! Ian (50:43.612) You've been violently accosted with a punch in the face and you're called an idiot. RYAN RAYLE (50:45.485) I'm a fish. I'm leaving. Austin (50:49.353) That's my form of violence. RYAN RAYLE (50:50.797) Do not hit Brett in the face. Okay. Don't do it. Or call. Or he'll quit the band. Brett Roos (50:53.62) No, don't. Austin (50:55.742) or call him an idiot. RYAN RAYLE (51:03.341) Who's next on the round robin? I don't know Brett Josh. Yeah, wait God, this is terrible Wait, there we go. I had to go forward way over there. She's lease Brett Roos (51:05.302) Josh. RYAN RAYLE (51:25.741) It's okay. RYAN RAYLE (52:21.655) Touch grass, motherfucker. Touch grass. RYAN RAYLE (52:26.593) Dude, walking in my backyard, shoeless. I get yelled at from my wife, but fuck it. It's worth it. Anyway, old man Ian, send us off. Ian (52:34.191) Definitely. Ian (52:37.835) Thanks obviously to Brett, to Austin, to Joshua for letting me have fun with them and being like, I like having that they're my friends. I get to be in a band and we're friends. Thanks to my girlfriend Mandy, cause she's awesome. And just thanks to anyone who buys a shirt, doesn't buy a shirt, listens to us, just is into us. Thank you so much. Every time somebody does praise us in some way, I'm always just like, it's like the best. It doesn't, know. It's, we're so lucky. Half the time I'm playing, think I'm so fricking lucky to two people, to 12 people, to 50. You know, it doesn't matter. So fucking lucky to do this with these guys. So yeah. And thank you for what you do. RYAN RAYLE (53:16.25) yeah. RYAN RAYLE (53:23.089) Well, I was just going to say, I would not be able to do this if it wasn't for people like you guys. I say this time and time again, I'll say it until we're creeping on the death bed. Like you've got to support local music. You've got to get out there, you know, pay the 10, 15, $20 to get in, buy a drink, don't buy a drink, but buy their merch because that's, you know, that's what makes the wheel, you know, that's what makes the wheels go around. And, you know, If you want to help support them, throw on their YouTube channel and go to sleep with that shit and let the ad revenue stack up. You know, it's one of those life hacks that we have to do today to help support, you know, because not too many people buy CDs or vinyls these days. So you really got to figure out what are the easiest ways to support not only the bands that you're a fan of, but the bands that you have friends that they're in. And I look at every person, every band that I interview, that is an extension of my family. through and through to the point where my wife, I fought nine months to get this room and I, and I'm going to deck this bitch out until it's done. And, you know, she's like, give me the couch back. I'm like, no, you're not getting the couch back. got the couch. But anyway, I'm not bringing the couch to come and take it. There's already one there. December 6th, you can catch all of these lovely people here playing one of the, I would only imagine, I mean, I don't want to say the sickest set. but I do know that it's going to be an experience that you're not gonna wanna miss from start to finish, know, inside the hollow, got Bridges of Blaze, we got Cultburner, we've got Batlips, we've got Broken Time, Future Ghost, and all of a sudden, Darkness Divided turned out a new riff earlier this week, or week, this year. And as soon as I heard it, I was like, what y'all guys doing in December? Because I was on their fucking fan list in like 2016 or something. it's, it's their only, it is their only Austin date. So I didn't even know that until like a month or two ago. So, pretty excited to get them back in the mix, but also excited to get everybody in a room together, high five and bro hugging and just having a good time. So, if you want to come out again, December 6th, come and take it live. doors are at six, be there early. Going to try and do some early raffles. RYAN RAYLE (55:48.013) Maybe some giveaways. I build acoustic panels on the side and I got a couple laying around the house. I might raffle off other fun things. My daughter and I are doing tie-dye podcast t-shirts. So that's cool. Just excited to have like everybody in a room together. I know we always get in the room together and you know, but you know, this one's ours. You know, this one's mine. Like I get to... Ian (56:11.449) Batlips, I haven't got to play with batlips yet. Those guys are so bad. RYAN RAYLE (56:14.762) Right. Like y'all, y'all are going to be competing for that lives throws a show too. I'm, I'm excited to have them on the set. just some, just some goddamn, just some good old Austin metal. You know what I mean? Like you just, can walk old school, walk down six and hear it playing and be like, I'm going to give $10 to get in to go hear that, you know, or, or catch them all over at a Mohawk or like chess club or something. But yeah. Austin (56:19.806) bring it. Ian (56:41.915) That was my... I missed Red 7. RYAN RAYLE (56:45.184) Man, I miss Red 7. Anyway, you're not going to miss us. Come and take it. It's still open. December 6th, we'll be there. Any final words before we hit stop? Ian (56:50.115) RYAN RAYLE (57:01.012) Yeah, just get back there and clean up the Dewey Decimal system if you know what I'm talking about. I don't even think you're old enough, but it counts. All right, guys. Ian (57:10.043) I'm the librarian. That's what I would. RYAN RAYLE (57:14.56) Just stick around real quick, let everything finish up, but anyway, this is Cult Burner, I'm Ryan, this is the podcast. See you guys later. Austin (57:22.014) See y'all later.