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CM 17 Betting On Yourself: Entrepreneurship, Burnout and Consistency with Jaret Driskill · Callis Mindset with Kannon Callis

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Callius Mindset podcast, where we talk
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Speaker 1: about growth, leadership, entrepreneurship, mindset, and what it really takes
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Speaker 1: to set up the life that you want to live.
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Speaker 1: Today's episode is special because I'm joined by someone I've
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Speaker 1: known personally for years, Jarrett Driscol.
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Speaker 2: Jarrett and I actually go back several years.
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Speaker 1: Here in Idaho, one of my first colleagues and friends,
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Speaker 1: and it's cool to know him because he's an entrepreneur himself.
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Speaker 1: Ashley and I got to attend Courtney and Jarrett's wedding
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Speaker 1: the same year that we got married, and it was
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Speaker 1: amazing to be there and just to know them. Over
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Speaker 1: the years, I've watched Jarrett grow from someone with massive ambition,
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Speaker 1: true operator status and mindset to becoming an entrepreneur. He's
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Speaker 1: built a few businesses since I've met him, and created
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Speaker 1: a community through hoop Boise. What I really like about
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Speaker 1: Jarrett is he's someone that actually executes on his plans.
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Speaker 1: He builds, takes action, and then refines and honestly, he's
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Speaker 1: taking a personality test. We have a very similar mindset
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Speaker 1: and personality. Welcome to the show, Jared.
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Speaker 3: Thanks Cam, I appreciate it. Man I'm happy to be here.
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Speaker 1: Well again, I appreciate your time, and I want to
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Speaker 1: start with your foundation and your childhood.
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Speaker 2: You're an Idaho native, right.
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Speaker 3: That is, right from Lewis and Idaho, north central Idaho.
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Speaker 3: It's a decently small town and I kind of think
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Speaker 3: that shaped a lot of who I am. You know,
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Speaker 3: in a small town, you learn pretty quickly that nothing's
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Speaker 3: really handed to you. You have to work for your
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Speaker 3: opportunities and you know, make your own fun and build
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Speaker 3: relationships with people. And sports were a huge part of
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Speaker 3: my life growing up, and it taught me discipline, competitiveness,
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Speaker 3: and how to be a part of a team. You know.
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Speaker 3: Coming from an environment like that also made me appreciate
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Speaker 3: the community a lot more. And you know, you know
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Speaker 3: a lot of the people who live in Lewiston, and
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Speaker 3: I think that's part of why I've always been drawn
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Speaker 3: towards building things and just bringing people together.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: And it is very different, you know, up there in
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Speaker 1: northern Idaho and Lewiston then here in the capital Boise area.
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Speaker 1: And I've kind of have a similar story, you know,
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Speaker 1: origin story as well.
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Speaker 2: When I was a child, I was born.
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Speaker 1: In Oklahoma and I lived there for eight years in
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Speaker 1: a really small town.
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Speaker 2: You know, we spent a lot of time outdoors.
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Speaker 1: I did sports from the time I was old enough
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Speaker 1: to walk, you know, just met a lot of my
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Speaker 1: friends and colleagues through sports and just being outdoors at
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Speaker 1: that time. And then we moved to Dallas, Texas, which
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Speaker 1: is a very big city. And speaking of sports, you know,
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Speaker 1: Texas is one of the most competitive states in the nation,
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Speaker 1: and so playing sports and meeting people have been really cool.
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Speaker 1: But it's you know, the community is so big there
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Speaker 1: that it's almost a different vibe than coming from somewhere
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Speaker 1: in Idaho and moving even to Boise, which in comparison
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Speaker 1: into Dallas is just there's really not one.
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Speaker 2: It's you know, Dallas is a concrete jungle.
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Speaker 1: And there are eight million people in the metro, which
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Speaker 1: is four times the entire state of Idaho. And so
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Speaker 1: what was it like for you when you went from Lewiston,
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Speaker 1: which is a smaller town but still decently you know
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Speaker 1: for Idaho, down to Boise.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
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Speaker 3: Definitely a culture shift for sure. The biggest difference is
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Speaker 3: the traffic, no doubt. In my hometown, you know, it
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Speaker 3: takes fifteen minutes to get from one end to the other,
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Speaker 3: you know, whether there's traffic or not, and here you're
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Speaker 3: looking at a minimum of a half an hour drive.
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Speaker 3: But I really felt like Boise was just a place
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Speaker 3: with more opportunity. You know, the growth down here, it's
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Speaker 3: it's getting a lot bigger, a lot more people are
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Speaker 3: moving here. So I just wanted to be somewhere where,
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Speaker 3: you know, I still felt like I had Idaho roots,
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Speaker 3: but it was a bigger city that had more opportunity
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Speaker 3: to you know, do business, but also meet new people
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Speaker 3: in network. And it's been a lot of fun. And
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't change a thing about moving to Boise for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Did know, Well, what sports
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Speaker 1: did you grow up playing?
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Speaker 3: Pretty much anything that had a ball, I would do it.
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Speaker 3: But I mainly focused on football, basketball, and baseball, And
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Speaker 3: you know, it kind of just depended on which season
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Speaker 3: it was. As a younger kid, that was my favorite sport.
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Speaker 3: If it was baseball season, it was baseball. If it
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Speaker 3: was football, it was football. I think once I got
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Speaker 3: a little bit older, football honestly was probably my favorite sport.
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Speaker 3: But I dealt with a lot of injuries and I
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Speaker 3: decided ultimately not to pursue football in college, and I
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Speaker 3: did a little bit of baseball, so actually no basketball,
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Speaker 3: but now here we are with the basketball, but I
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Speaker 3: still do love basketball and it's still a big part
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Speaker 3: of my life. So it was just right out my
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Speaker 3: alley perfect.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Were you always competitive or like, did you get into
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Speaker 1: sports and then you became How did it work?
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Speaker 3: You know? I basically started playing sports as soon as
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Speaker 3: I could walk to My dad was a high school
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Speaker 3: football and baseball coach for like twenty five years, and
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Speaker 3: so I grew up being on the sidelines with him
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Speaker 3: in the locker rooms, you know, around a lot of
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Speaker 3: tough coaching, and so I think that instilled a lot
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Speaker 3: of competitiveness in me from an early age. And so
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Speaker 3: you know, right when I was actually able to start
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Speaker 3: playing and I was old enough, I think that competitive
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Speaker 3: edge like was already set in my mind from day one. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen that too so much where parents that
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Speaker 1: are either athletes, coaches or both have kids. My dad
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Speaker 1: was high pool and college athlete basketball, football, You know, they.
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Speaker 2: It kind of rubs off on you as you grow up.
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Speaker 1: Especially if you're a son, and you know, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: daughters as well.
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Speaker 2: It happens.
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Speaker 1: But I know for a fact, you know from my
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Speaker 1: experience and you know as your son, your parents a
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Speaker 1: lot of times they want to live vicariously through you,
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Speaker 1: or they want to create that discipline, teamwork, winning attitude,
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. You know, there's a
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Speaker 1: package that comes with team sports, communication and team building
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Speaker 1: and just understanding that you know, you you work, you
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Speaker 1: work together towards a bigger goal, whether that's winning a
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Speaker 1: game or getting better at conditioning or you know, perfecting
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Speaker 1: your shock, whatever it may be.
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Speaker 2: So I think it's definitely something that comes. Wouldn't really
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Speaker 2: call it genetic, even though it could be.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like nature versus nurture, right, It's, uh,
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Speaker 1: you grow up and you grow up around it, so
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Speaker 1: it's it's nurture.
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Speaker 2: Right. So what was what was Lewiston?
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Speaker 1: Like? I've been through there once or twice heading up
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Speaker 1: to hunting trips, and I know there's like a lot
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Speaker 1: of rivers that go through that area and there's a
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Speaker 1: big port.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, you know, geographically it's kind of
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Speaker 3: similar to the Treasure Valley. You know, it's called the
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Speaker 3: Lewis and Clark Valley. Lewiston and Clarkston. There's two rivers
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Speaker 3: that flow through the Snake River and also the Clearwater River.
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Speaker 3: Lots of jet boats, ski boats, hunting and fishing. I
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Speaker 3: think that's the one thing I miss most about living
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Speaker 3: in Lewison. In a small town, as if you are
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Speaker 3: trying to go out and you know, have some fun
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Speaker 3: in the summer and go camping, hunting, fishing, whatever it is,
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Speaker 3: it's kind of right in your backyard versus down here
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Speaker 3: in the Treasure Valley you kind of have to go
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Speaker 3: a little bit further to get to the destination that
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Speaker 3: you want to get to. The weather was very similar
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Speaker 3: to so that hasn't changed much. It probably gets a
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Speaker 3: little bit hotter up in Lewiston than it does here,
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Speaker 3: but for the most part, it's pretty pretty comparable as
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Speaker 3: far as that goes. But there's just a lot more
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Speaker 3: to do down here. As far as in the city.
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Speaker 3: You know, you got basically like one trip mull and Lewiston.
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Speaker 3: You got a handful of restaurants that you get to
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Speaker 3: pick from, you know, So down here there's just a
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Speaker 3: lot more shopping, a lot more places to eat, a
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Speaker 3: lot more you know, things to do as far as
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Speaker 3: being in the city. So that's one thing I like
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Speaker 3: about Boise a lot more. But the only thing I
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Speaker 3: miss is the no traffic in Lewiston for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, traffic has gotten worse here since I've moved here,
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Speaker 1: you know, three years ago or so, and I'm sure
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Speaker 1: in the last ten years it's gotten significantly worse, and
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Speaker 1: compared to anywhere else I've driven in Idaho, it's the
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Speaker 1: worst here.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I.
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Speaker 1: Agree with you as well, I think it. You know,
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Speaker 1: you do have to drive a couple hours if you
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Speaker 1: really want to get up some mountains from here Lewiston.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's not that far away, and the hunting
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Speaker 1: trips we've gone up it's just beautiful country, it really is.
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Speaker 2: It's the only time I've ever felt that way about
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Speaker 2: where I've lived. And you know, the.
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Speaker 1: Surrounding outdoors has been in Denver, and you know, even then,
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Speaker 1: you have to drive a couple of hours to really
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Speaker 1: get to hard you know hikes, the easy ones are
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Speaker 1: in the foothills, but then if you want to head
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Speaker 1: of fourteen or you're still waking up at four am
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Speaker 1: getting up there early before.
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Speaker 2: The sun's up.
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Speaker 1: And here it's kind of the same way with hunting.
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Speaker 2: We wake up really early, you know, and and do it.
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Speaker 2: But are you a big hunter?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up and I did a ton of
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Speaker 3: big game hunting, elk, deer, bear, you name it, we
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Speaker 3: hunted it, turkeys. We were big time into archery too,
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Speaker 3: as soon as I got out of playing sports and
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Speaker 3: I have the time to do it. So that was
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Speaker 3: a lot of fun for me. It's a lot harder,
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Speaker 3: for sure, and you're hunting in September and August when
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Speaker 3: the weather is a lot hotter, so that part of
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Speaker 3: it isn't super fun. But there's nothing like being super
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Speaker 3: close to an animal, just knowing you know that you
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Speaker 3: have a chance to to do something, and the thrill
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Speaker 3: and the rush is just so much more when you
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Speaker 3: know you have to be so still and silent because
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Speaker 3: you're so close to them, versus hunting with the rifle
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Speaker 3: when you could be you know, hundreds of yards away
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Speaker 3: and you're not worried as much about you know, them
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Speaker 3: smelling you or seeing you. So it definitely changes your
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Speaker 3: tactics a little bit, but definitely both archie and rifle
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Speaker 3: hunting I did a lot of I didn't do as
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Speaker 3: much fishing, you know, was I maybe I would have
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Speaker 3: liked to. But I also wasn't super patient as a
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Speaker 3: kid either, and I would rather be in the woods
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Speaker 3: and you know, looking at different ridges and spots and whatnot,
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Speaker 3: versus just staring at water all day long if you're
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Speaker 3: not catching any fish, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get that.
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Speaker 1: And so how did it come that you decided that
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Speaker 1: you were going to start your first business? Like from
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Speaker 1: from you know, childhood sports, you moved down to Boise.
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Speaker 2: What did you do when you moved down here?
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Speaker 3: When I moved down here, I finished my degree at
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Speaker 3: Boise State. I graduated with a teaching degree, and my
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Speaker 3: plan was actually to go on and be a teacher
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Speaker 3: and coach because I knew I always wanted to stay
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Speaker 3: involved in sports. But after I finished, you know, I
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Speaker 3: realized that I wasn't really satisfied with that, and I
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Speaker 3: wanted to pursue business and be an entrepreneur, and so
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Speaker 3: I actually started. My first business was a palette business.
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Speaker 3: I recycled used palettes and resold them. I'm actually still
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Speaker 3: doing it to this day. It's more of a side
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Speaker 3: hustle now than what it used to be. I just
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Speaker 3: don't have as much time for it anymore. But I
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Speaker 3: always knew that I wanted to be an entrepreneur because
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Speaker 3: I wanted to be able to control my own destiny
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Speaker 3: and you work the hours that I wanted to work
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Speaker 3: and you know, generate the money that I wanted to generate.
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Speaker 3: And unfortunately with the palette business, it hasn't generated me
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Speaker 3: as much money as I would have liked now. But
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Speaker 3: part of the reason is because I'm not really determined
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Speaker 3: in growing that because I started another business that I'm pursuing.
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Speaker 3: And with that being said, Who Boyse. The reason I
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Speaker 3: started that is obviously, like we've talked about, sports always
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Speaker 3: been a huge part of my life and so I
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Speaker 3: always knew I wanted to be around that, and you know,
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Speaker 3: by me not going the teaching and coaching route, this
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Speaker 3: was an opportunity that kind of fell into my lap
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Speaker 3: and I noticed that there wasn't really anything like who
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Speaker 3: Boysey around here or anywhere close to here. It's a
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Speaker 3: mobile basketball ar kid experience that we do for events,
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Speaker 3: birthday parties, corporate stuff. It just creates a lot of
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Speaker 3: energy instantly. Is fun for you know, kids, teenagers, adults,
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Speaker 3: you name it. If you you know, like to shoot
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Speaker 3: a basketball and have a little bit of fun, this
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Speaker 3: is for you, And it just kind of started out
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Speaker 3: as an idea that turned into something bigger. I realized,
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Speaker 3: you know, people weren't just renting a game, they were
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Speaker 3: creating memories and experiences for you know, their kids and
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Speaker 3: their families, and you know, it forces you to compete, laugh,
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Speaker 3: and it allows you to connect with the people around you.
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Speaker 3: And honestly, it's a super simple design. You know, our
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Speaker 3: kid basketball is around forever, Nobody's just seen it as
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Speaker 3: a mobile aspect. And so, you know, my goal with
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Speaker 3: it was too, you know, hopefully create a career path
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Speaker 3: for me in business, but also you know, provide a
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Speaker 3: unique fun thing that the Treasure Valley has never seen before.
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Speaker 3: And it's been a lot of fun so far.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I remember a few years ago, or maybe a couple
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Speaker 1: of years ago, you had mentioned something about a trailer
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Speaker 1: and having it built or something, and I was like,
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Speaker 1: that's a really cool idea. I've never seen anything like
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Speaker 1: that anywhere, let alone here in Boise. And so when
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Speaker 1: I when you actually executed and you brought it to be,
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Speaker 1: you know, you brought the brand to existence, and you know,
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Speaker 1: you brought the you brought the experience, and you started
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Speaker 1: doing tons of events. I got to attend a couple
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Speaker 1: of those events and it was really fun, and it
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Speaker 1: was you know, people are looking these days to participate
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Speaker 1: or something that's going to engage them physically, because so
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Speaker 1: much of what we do is staring at a screen,
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Speaker 1: and today is you know, whether it's a computer, screen,
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Speaker 1: a camera, or a TV, real tangible things, physical things.
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Speaker 1: They are becoming more important and more valuable to people.
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Speaker 1: So in those experiences to actually go somewhere and do
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Speaker 1: something fun with people, to me, I think that's going
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Speaker 1: to be really important, you know, as we progress in technology,
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Speaker 1: but also people are getting I mean we have already
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Speaker 1: been this way.
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Speaker 2: A majority of our country is.
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Speaker 1: Sedimentary, and you know it it engages not just the kids.
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Speaker 2: But the parents, grandparents, so it's for all ages. I
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Speaker 2: had fun, for sure.
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Speaker 3: Glad to hear that that's the goal right there.
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Speaker 1: When you started it, what did you do to find
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Speaker 1: your first client or your first event?
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Speaker 3: So before I actually had my trailer, I had started
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Speaker 3: an Instagram page and Facebook page and I just started
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Speaker 3: posting with content from the guy who built the trailer
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Speaker 3: for me. He already had a previous trailer and had
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Speaker 3: a ton of content from that, so I basically just
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Speaker 3: jump started right away making posts and you know, just
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Speaker 3: by word of mouth, telling all my friends and family
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Speaker 3: and you know, employees coworkers that I work with, just
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Speaker 3: trying to give a heads up to people that hey,
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Speaker 3: you know this, this thing's coming to town. It's going
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Speaker 3: to be awesome. Tell all your friends and I Actually
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Speaker 3: my first client was a gal that we go to
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Speaker 3: church with. She runs a community hub here, a nonprofit,
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Speaker 3: and they had an event and they were my first
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Speaker 3: paid booking And it was basically just through you know,
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Speaker 3: networking and making connections and talking to people I met
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Speaker 3: and have known her at church. And then that event
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Speaker 3: turned into a few more, and now I've done almost
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Speaker 3: seventy events the first year I've had my trailer, which
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Speaker 3: has been awesome, and hopefully we can double that this year.
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Speaker 2: Wow, seventy I had no clue. I had no clue
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Speaker 2: it was already at that number. I thought maybe like
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Speaker 2: forty or fifty. That's amazing.
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Speaker 3: October last year was huge for us, and then May
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Speaker 3: this year has been huge for us. A lot of
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Speaker 3: school functions during those months. It's been awesome.
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Speaker 2: Wow, what's your busiest month been? How many events?
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Speaker 3: This month I did. I was supposed to do twenty events,
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Speaker 3: but one of them ended up canceling due to weather.
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Speaker 3: So I did nineteen events this month, which has been
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Speaker 3: my biggest so far.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: And just for reference, it's May twenty twenty six right now.
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Speaker 1: This will probably come out a little bit later in
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Speaker 1: the year, but wow. So you're not only just doing
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Speaker 1: record number of events this month, you're also on podcasts
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Speaker 1: Leoli looking for other opportunities, potentially in real estate, and
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Speaker 1: it's just incredible.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm an entrepreneur at at heart, and if you
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Speaker 3: want to call it a serial entrepreneur. I I actually
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Speaker 3: thought of making, you know, a skit a bit of
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Speaker 3: being a serial entrepreneur. And any given day I'm doing
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Speaker 3: one of my different jobs, I'll just take a video
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Speaker 3: that day and be like, that's what I'm doing to day.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a day in the life of serial entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: Exact Monday, you're wearing your Tuesday, you're wearing your hoop boise, Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: You're just every day there's something different, and that's awesome.
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Speaker 1: I think it is important that you know you have
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Speaker 1: multiple ventures. I'm also you know, doing multiple real estate ventures,
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Speaker 1: have done other stuff in the past, and I think
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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of what you said when you
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Speaker 1: said that you're an entrepreneur at heart.
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Speaker 2: There are people I am one of them. I've met
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Speaker 2: many of them that they truly do have that entrepreneurial spirit.
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Speaker 1: They want to create and connect, they want to build,
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Speaker 1: they want to grow, they want to have that complete
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Speaker 1: independence or autonomy and the ability to reach the goals
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Speaker 1: that they decide and you know, capture their dreams, you know,
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Speaker 1: like reach their destiny and control it a little bit.
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Speaker 2: And being a.
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Speaker 1: Business owner being an entrepreneur, in my opinion, is the
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Speaker 1: best way to do that, being you know, investing in yourself,
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Speaker 1: investing in a business, eventually investing in cash flowing assets.
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Speaker 1: I think those are the three ways to financial freedom
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Speaker 1: and truly financial future. A lot of times determines your
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Speaker 1: independence and what you can do with your time. And
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Speaker 1: wanted to talk a little bit about that entrepreneurial heart.
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Speaker 1: Leadership is a huge part of that. Communication and relationship
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Speaker 1: building is a massive part of that.
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Speaker 2: But let's talk about the.
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Speaker 1: Introspective side of things and our own personalities and characteristics
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Speaker 1: that you think have kind of encompass that vibe of
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Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial heart and that spirit of it. So some
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Speaker 1: of the topics that we could talk about that I
20:08
Speaker 1: think are part of that are leadership. Like I mentioned,
20:11
Speaker 1: it's massive, developing yourself to leave yourself and other people,
20:18
Speaker 1: Decisiveness and the ability to make decisions, having the ambition
20:23
Speaker 1: to carry you through actually executing things, doing it with
20:28
Speaker 1: intensity or almost like a builder would do it with precision,
20:34
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur would do something with an intensity that they
20:38
Speaker 1: want to do the best that they can and execute
20:42
Speaker 1: that way. And it all comes from the mindset. And
20:45
Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest reasons for this podcast is
20:49
Speaker 1: sharing these types of topics, these.
20:52
Speaker 2: Experiences from all levels of entrepreneurs.
20:55
Speaker 1: You know, people that want to be one one day,
20:57
Speaker 1: people that are right now and have been in the past,
21:00
Speaker 1: and people that you know they made their exit or
21:02
Speaker 1: they've got they've kind of set themselves up. And so
21:06
Speaker 1: let's start with the personality type because a few weeks ago,
21:11
Speaker 1: and I know you've probably taken a few of these before,
21:14
Speaker 1: I've learned about your personality type from the Myers Briggs
21:16
Speaker 1: and from the Predictive Index. Do you remember what your
21:20
Speaker 1: results were on those?
21:21
Speaker 3: I remember one of them was captain. I think that one.
21:26
Speaker 3: I don't remember the letter acronym for the other one.
21:30
Speaker 2: Okay, so you were a captain with a predictive index.
21:33
Speaker 3: Well we were the same for the other one.
21:36
Speaker 2: We were the same, that's right. Yeah, the Myers Briggs
21:39
Speaker 2: you were an E N t J. It's a little dash.
21:43
Speaker 1: It's either A or T. A means you're assertive. T
21:47
Speaker 1: means you're turbulent. And that's the one difference we had there,
21:51
Speaker 1: is that you're more assertive and I'm a bit more turbulent.
21:54
Speaker 2: And so it's really the way that we handle emotions.
21:59
Speaker 1: Apparently I actually dove a little bit deeper into that
22:01
Speaker 1: and in our communication specifically if we're reactive or not,
22:04
Speaker 1: and so you probably handle things a little bit maybe
22:09
Speaker 1: more smooth than I would handle things, even though we're extroverted,
22:14
Speaker 1: intuitive thinking, judgmental personalities. And that's what the E NTJ
22:19
Speaker 1: is And it's two percent of the population, so it's
22:23
Speaker 1: you know, relatively rare, but it's also sometimes they're the
22:28
Speaker 1: type of people that are just really blunt, and so
22:34
Speaker 1: it can rub people the wrong way that more of
22:35
Speaker 1: the people on the opposite side that are maybe introverted
22:40
Speaker 1: observative feeling. You know, people, that's a little bit different
22:45
Speaker 1: because what the E and TJ can do is uses
22:49
Speaker 1: he basically forces his destiny. He's usually it's a projection
22:52
Speaker 1: type of personality that can see the future, has a
22:56
Speaker 1: good vision and then can project by doing and executing
23:01
Speaker 1: in a confident way that it works and you keep
23:04
Speaker 1: doing it until you find a way.
23:06
Speaker 2: So you know, that's that's what I've learned about it.
23:10
Speaker 1: Anybody who wants to take this personality test, I would
23:13
Speaker 1: highly recommend it go to sixteen personalities dot com. It's
23:17
Speaker 1: one six personalities dot com. It's called the Meyers Briggs
23:21
Speaker 1: but there's basically sixteen different combinations of letters you can
23:25
Speaker 1: get and it all depends on where you land from
23:28
Speaker 1: a survey they ask, and there's a spectrum and you
23:31
Speaker 1: land somewhere, and then that's what it's leaning towards. It's
23:34
Speaker 1: not always just you know, black and white, so people,
23:38
Speaker 1: some people might be able to change over time. Jarrett
23:43
Speaker 1: at based on your results, do you think you've always
23:45
Speaker 1: been that way?
23:48
Speaker 3: I think it's like yes and no. I think I've
23:53
Speaker 3: always been you know, assertive, and I've always thrived in
23:59
Speaker 3: roles of leadership. And from the time I was a
24:04
Speaker 3: young kid in sports, like I always wanted to be
24:06
Speaker 3: the captain. I always wanted to be, you know, the
24:08
Speaker 3: first in line to lead whatever I wanted to do,
24:11
Speaker 3: and I wanted to set an example of how to
24:14
Speaker 3: do things the right way and work hard and be consistent.
24:20
Speaker 3: I think after I got done playing sports, I definitely
24:23
Speaker 3: kind of took a step back from that. And before
24:26
Speaker 3: I became an entrepreneur, you know, I wasn't as assertive
24:31
Speaker 3: and as much of a go getter because I really
24:34
Speaker 3: hadn't not many reasons to be. But once I started
24:38
Speaker 3: my business, then you know, you have nobody else to
24:41
Speaker 3: rely on but yourself, and so it forces you to,
24:45
Speaker 3: you know, either do it or don't. And I think that's,
24:48
Speaker 3: you know, kind of where leadership comes into play here.
24:50
Speaker 3: It's like leadership starts with consistency and setting a tone
24:54
Speaker 3: not only for yourself, but you know, if you are
24:57
Speaker 3: leading other people, the people around to you that you know,
25:01
Speaker 3: they pay attention to your energy, your work ethic, and
25:04
Speaker 3: how you handle pressure. And I'm just a big believer
25:07
Speaker 3: in showing up every day, you know, even if you're
25:11
Speaker 3: not feeling well that day or you know, some things
25:14
Speaker 3: come up with business mindset is huge, and there are
25:18
Speaker 3: always you know, ups and downs in some days, you know,
25:21
Speaker 3: you feel like everything's working, it's going great, you know,
25:24
Speaker 3: like this month for me, it's going awesome. And then
25:26
Speaker 3: there's other days that you question everything and it's like,
25:29
Speaker 3: I'm questioning the future of my bookings and schedule right now.
25:31
Speaker 3: It's like are they gonna come? And you know, you
25:35
Speaker 3: just have to learn every day as a business owner
25:38
Speaker 3: an entrepreneur that you know, you can't let your emotions
25:41
Speaker 3: control your decisions too much. Obviously, you know, nobody's perfect
25:45
Speaker 3: and everybody has emotions, and you're gonna have good days
25:48
Speaker 3: and you're gonna have bad days, but you just have
25:49
Speaker 3: to keep moving forward, learning, adapting, and staying focused on
25:53
Speaker 3: the bigger picture. And I honestly think that's what separates
25:55
Speaker 3: the entrepreneurs who aren't and what you touched on earlier.
25:59
Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure a lot of people who aren't
26:02
Speaker 3: entrepreneurs right now dream to be and want to be,
26:06
Speaker 3: but they just the one thing that's stopping them is
26:12
Speaker 3: taking that leap of faith. And maybe they're not super consistent,
26:16
Speaker 3: or they're not well at adapting or staying focused on things,
26:22
Speaker 3: and like you think that some days they could be
26:24
Speaker 3: in other days they don't. I just think that's the
26:25
Speaker 3: biggest difference is consistency and having goals, knowing what you
26:31
Speaker 3: know your goals are and how to accomplish them. And
26:33
Speaker 3: I think if you can do that, then you know
26:36
Speaker 3: you can be successful. If if you really believe it,
26:40
Speaker 3: it's true.
26:40
Speaker 2: I willheartedly agree with that.
26:43
Speaker 1: And in business, it's mountains and valleys, And the only
26:48
Speaker 1: person that makes the difference is you and your mindset
26:51
Speaker 1: and your decision to keep showing up, keep holding that
26:54
Speaker 1: promise that you made yourself or your business, your clients,
26:57
Speaker 1: your your family, whatever it is that gets you up
27:00
Speaker 1: in the morning, and keep doing it. And I've taken
27:04
Speaker 1: that test probably six or seven times across the last
27:07
Speaker 1: fifteen years, and I've scored the exact same every single time,
27:11
Speaker 1: And so.
27:12
Speaker 2: I know that I'm already set in my ways.
27:14
Speaker 1: You know, It's like I've gone through crazy life experiences
27:17
Speaker 1: in the last fifteen years, you know, life and death experiences,
27:19
Speaker 1: moving across the country, other you just crazy things.
27:22
Speaker 2: But the one thing that.
27:23
Speaker 1: Stays the same is I guess how my lenses or
27:27
Speaker 1: my personality I try to refine it. Obviously, you try
27:30
Speaker 1: to grow, you try to learn new things, but it's
27:35
Speaker 1: kind of like your lens, like that's it's part of
27:38
Speaker 1: a permanent structure in your mind that you make every
27:40
Speaker 1: single decision off of. So you wouldn't expect a person
27:45
Speaker 1: that's an E and TJ, which is the same personality
27:48
Speaker 1: as Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, a few other people.
27:51
Speaker 1: I think Elon might actually be an IMTJ, more of
27:54
Speaker 1: an introverted but obviously outwardly he's expressing himself in the
27:58
Speaker 1: limelight because he's all about media. But for individuals like us,
28:05
Speaker 1: I think it's about trying things and keep showing up
28:10
Speaker 1: until something that you do works. And for me, I
28:14
Speaker 1: kind of I always kind of knew it was real estate.
28:17
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to start a real estate company eleven
28:19
Speaker 1: years ago. I had literally business plans I had written
28:22
Speaker 1: up for Texas Omega Realty, and.
28:24
Speaker 2: I had the whole idea.
28:26
Speaker 1: And then I moved to Denver, and then I moved
28:29
Speaker 1: back to Texas and I start back on my real
28:31
Speaker 1: estate license and don't finish it. And then I moved
28:33
Speaker 1: to Idaho and then I finally get the chance, you know,
28:36
Speaker 1: ten eleven years later to do what I originally thought
28:39
Speaker 1: I was going to do in my early twenties. But
28:42
Speaker 1: along the way started wholesaling companies, I started branding companies, marketing, website, building, CBD,
28:51
Speaker 1: you know, you name it. And it's like, you learn
28:54
Speaker 1: all these lessons in a decade, and you can use
28:57
Speaker 1: all of that. You know, however long it is, you
28:59
Speaker 1: could do the same thing in five years and you
29:00
Speaker 1: still learn all those lessons and you use that towards
29:03
Speaker 1: your next venture. And then something suddenly lines up with
29:06
Speaker 1: the universe that says, hey, you've paid your dues, here's
29:09
Speaker 1: your shot. We're going to put you in front of
29:11
Speaker 1: the right person today, or you're going to meet the
29:13
Speaker 1: right client today. And as long as you're open minded,
29:17
Speaker 1: you're confident in yourself to close deals or execute, you
29:22
Speaker 1: might actually take something that was never there and you
29:24
Speaker 1: might craft it into something so much better than it
29:26
Speaker 1: would have been if you would have been someone who
29:28
Speaker 1: would have never taken the risk or the opportunity to
29:30
Speaker 1: talk to that person, or to ask that question, or
29:33
Speaker 1: to put yourself in the right room at the right time.
29:36
Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot to say about that.
29:38
Speaker 1: But competitiveness, I mean, I think it's also I've seen
29:43
Speaker 1: competitiveness and a.
29:44
Speaker 2: Lot of it comes out in a lot of different ways.
29:46
Speaker 1: Sometimes it comes out and you know, it makes people
29:48
Speaker 1: like iron strike sharpens the iron. You know, it gets
29:52
Speaker 1: people get better because they have to rise to that
29:55
Speaker 1: level of standard that's born. Other times people give up
30:01
Speaker 1: and they self implode. For me, every year, almost every
30:06
Speaker 1: year for the last ten years, almost I've had a
30:08
Speaker 1: serious burnout where I worked myself too much. I worked
30:12
Speaker 1: too many hours, I was doing too many things, and
30:15
Speaker 1: I lost my edge. I like lost my motivation, ambition,
30:21
Speaker 1: didn't want to do anything. I had no motivation to
30:23
Speaker 1: really do what I was doing at the time, just
30:24
Speaker 1: wanted to do nothing.
30:25
Speaker 2: Has that ever happened to you?
30:28
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I definitely went through some phases like that.
30:32
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm still currently feeling like I'm battling
30:36
Speaker 3: a little bit of that, just because I'm still all
30:38
Speaker 3: over the place with you know, my five other part
30:41
Speaker 3: time jobs. But you know, my goal this summer was
30:45
Speaker 3: to you know, scale down. You know, I work at
30:49
Speaker 3: ups in the mornings. You know, I'll keep that job
30:52
Speaker 3: because I get benefits for them, obviously, to run and
30:58
Speaker 3: operate hoop Boise and then obviously us working together. I'm
31:03
Speaker 3: trying to focus on, you know, keeping it simple but
31:06
Speaker 3: still venturing out and having you know, multiple opportunities that
31:11
Speaker 3: I know I can handle. And right now, going from
31:15
Speaker 3: about six jobs to three seems pretty good.
31:20
Speaker 2: Yeah. That Actually, that's I've done so many things like that.
31:22
Speaker 1: Like it's been where you commit to so many different
31:25
Speaker 1: things that you want them all to work long term,
31:31
Speaker 1: and it's hard to force that to happen because you
31:35
Speaker 1: can't focus enough to go deep into one. And then
31:40
Speaker 1: I've heard from most entrepreneurs that have made it really
31:42
Speaker 1: big and made a ton of you know, either money
31:44
Speaker 1: or gotten older time back. You know, they can do
31:46
Speaker 1: whatever they want with the rest of their life. They've
31:48
Speaker 1: told me, get really really good at something specific and
31:52
Speaker 1: then use that to make money while you build your venture,
31:56
Speaker 1: or use it in a way that you can build
31:59
Speaker 1: something in a a field that's a similar discipline and
32:03
Speaker 1: use that same skill set to then go be your
32:04
Speaker 1: own boss.
32:05
Speaker 2: And so.
32:07
Speaker 1: It was the same way I worked jobs. You know,
32:09
Speaker 1: I worked mostly jobs, and I was good at those jobs.
32:12
Speaker 1: I always ask for you know, kind of similar to
32:13
Speaker 1: you first in line asking for leadership opportunity, asking to
32:17
Speaker 1: be the one presenting in front of everyone, doing things
32:20
Speaker 1: that other people just simply either didn't feel comfortable doing
32:23
Speaker 1: or didn't.
32:24
Speaker 2: Have the time to do.
32:25
Speaker 1: You know, I just basically take on anything I possibly could,
32:28
Speaker 1: And going straight into real estate right out of school
32:31
Speaker 1: in college is probably the only reason that I have
32:37
Speaker 1: this idea that I can do more with my time
32:40
Speaker 1: is because I was a leasing manager all through college.
32:43
Speaker 1: You know, I was managing single family properties for investors
32:46
Speaker 1: in college as well, same thing I'm doing here today,
32:48
Speaker 1: but just in Texas and much younger and less experienced
32:51
Speaker 1: and less good systems. Back then there weren't as many
32:54
Speaker 1: good tech systems yet, so great experience. But every sales
33:00
Speaker 1: job since then is it's like for a corporation and
33:03
Speaker 1: it's you know, to pay the man, right. It's like
33:05
Speaker 1: you make a cut, but you have to keep showing
33:09
Speaker 1: up every single day. You have to work on their schedule.
33:11
Speaker 2: Sometimes. Actually most jobs didn't even provide benefits.
33:14
Speaker 1: I had to pay out of pocket, or they want
33:16
Speaker 1: to make me an independent contractor so they don't have
33:18
Speaker 1: to pay you know, W two of benefits.
33:20
Speaker 2: So what you're doing with you know, the the job
33:23
Speaker 2: in the morning.
33:24
Speaker 1: That's a large corporation private, but also comes with benefits.
33:29
Speaker 1: That's really smart, especially considering you started a family recently,
33:32
Speaker 1: which I definitely want to talk more about.
33:34
Speaker 3: Definitely, the benefits are a big reason why I'm there,
33:38
Speaker 3: and it definitely helps a lot, you know, getting married
33:42
Speaker 3: and having a baby. It's definitely changed my perspective on
33:45
Speaker 3: a lot of things. You know, before my focus was
33:49
Speaker 3: you know, mainly on myself, my wife girlfriend. At the time,
33:54
Speaker 3: you know, I had goals and some things I wanted
33:57
Speaker 3: to do accomplish, you know, But now you know, there's
33:59
Speaker 3: really no bigger purpose, you know behind everything I do,
34:03
Speaker 3: my marriage and family. You know, I've made me think
34:05
Speaker 3: more about long term and setting up for life insurance
34:08
Speaker 3: and investments, and you know, it's not just about ideas
34:11
Speaker 3: anymore and having fun. It's about you know, building a family,
34:15
Speaker 3: a career stability, you know. But at the same time,
34:18
Speaker 3: I'm open for opportunities, and you know, I'm becoming somebody
34:22
Speaker 3: my family can rely on. And to be honest with you,
34:27
Speaker 3: as a kid, like I always thought I would have
34:29
Speaker 3: kids younger than I am now, but now that I'm
34:31
Speaker 3: actually at this age, it's like, I feel a lot
34:34
Speaker 3: younger than I am, and so it was definitely a
34:36
Speaker 3: culture shock for me. But it's been so much fun.
34:39
Speaker 3: And he's an awesome little guy, and he's about to
34:43
Speaker 3: start running around like crazy and and our hands are
34:48
Speaker 3: definitely going to be full.
34:50
Speaker 2: So true. Yeah, you just had your son, Jersey just
34:53
Speaker 2: turned one?
34:54
Speaker 3: Was it in the last month in May? Yeah?
34:58
Speaker 2: This month? Oh, last week? And then you've you've got
35:03
Speaker 2: another one on the way.
35:05
Speaker 3: Yes, we got a baby girl on the way in October.
35:09
Speaker 3: Her due date is October first.
35:11
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. And what's do you have a name?
35:15
Speaker 3: We don't have a name for this one yet.
35:17
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, Well, that's going to be really exciting and
35:20
Speaker 1: rewarding to have a baby daughter and kind of compare
35:22
Speaker 1: because they're going to be similar in age, you know,
35:25
Speaker 1: they're they're not like a huge gap, so they're going
35:28
Speaker 1: to grow up in the same time period, and it's
35:30
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see just how special each one.
35:32
Speaker 2: Of them are in the different ways, you know.
35:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I can't wait for you guys to
35:38
Speaker 3: have some babies too, and then they'll be friends and
35:40
Speaker 3: grow up together.
35:42
Speaker 2: Well, we better get started and catch up.
35:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're behind the ball.
35:47
Speaker 2: It's true.
35:47
Speaker 1: Well, anyway, so your first child, Jersey born in May,
35:52
Speaker 1: does that make him a Taurus?
35:54
Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't know what's his birthday? April
35:58
Speaker 2: twond Aries, that's right, Aries.
36:01
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I only know I'mtarius and that's all I know.
36:05
Speaker 1: So you're a Sagittarius, which I believe is a fire sign.
36:08
Speaker 1: And Aries is also a fire sign. My wife is
36:11
Speaker 1: in aries, my sister's in aries, my wife's dad.
36:17
Speaker 2: There's so many there's. Areas are one of the best
36:19
Speaker 2: signs in my opinion. They are also not the hardest to.
36:25
Speaker 1: Predict because they are fiery like they they leave with
36:30
Speaker 1: their hearts from it. From all the ones that I've met,
36:32
Speaker 1: they leave with their hearts, and so a lot of times,
36:34
Speaker 1: you know, raising it, raising him, You'll see male arias
36:38
Speaker 1: and female areas are a little different, but you'd have
36:41
Speaker 1: to ask, you know, a specialist, because I don't know
36:44
Speaker 1: all the you know, special differences between the horoscopes.
36:47
Speaker 2: I just know a couple of them. And then do
36:50
Speaker 2: you know October do you know what day?
36:53
Speaker 3: Uh? October first is the official du day. But she
36:58
Speaker 3: was early with Jersey so, okay, I assume that she'll
37:02
Speaker 3: be probably sometime in September, but I don't know for sure.
37:07
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that one's either a libro or a virgo.
37:11
Speaker 1: But either way, both of those signs are awesome, and
37:13
Speaker 1: not that it defines anything about who you are, but
37:16
Speaker 1: if you're someone who follows that stuff and believes in it,
37:19
Speaker 1: you'll notice patterns. How has it been to manage, you know,
37:22
Speaker 1: starting a family and all these ventures together with the
37:25
Speaker 1: work life balance. I know you said you were trying
37:27
Speaker 1: to simplify and you know, go a little bit deeper
37:29
Speaker 1: on just a few things.
37:33
Speaker 3: What made you come to that conclusion just honestly burning out?
37:39
Speaker 3: Like you mentioned, you know, I for the last couple
37:42
Speaker 3: of years of my life, I've been basically working from
37:44
Speaker 3: like three four am to you know four or five pm,
37:48
Speaker 3: twelve hours a day, five days a week, and then
37:51
Speaker 3: I go and you know, do my palette business and
37:53
Speaker 3: who boise on the weekends and so I really had
37:56
Speaker 3: no days off, you know, unless I took a personal
38:01
Speaker 3: day on the weekend. But I'm not going to do
38:03
Speaker 3: that because I got money to make, you know, So
38:07
Speaker 3: it definitely was hard for me in the beginning, but
38:11
Speaker 3: before Jersey was born, you know, it wasn't as much
38:17
Speaker 3: of an issue being away from home, but obviously having
38:22
Speaker 3: a baby changes things a lot, and so I really
38:26
Speaker 3: had to you know sit down with my wife and
38:29
Speaker 3: we discussed, you know, what we thought was best for
38:31
Speaker 3: our family, and ultimately we decided for her to stay
38:35
Speaker 3: at home and not work, so she could you know,
38:38
Speaker 3: be with him and we wouldn't have to pay for
38:40
Speaker 3: daycare and I would work and you know provide for
38:47
Speaker 3: the family. And so I, you know, it was working
38:51
Speaker 3: a lot more again, but kind of got to a
38:54
Speaker 3: point again where I was, you know, getting exhausted and
38:57
Speaker 3: burning out, and so I finally made the decision to
39:00
Speaker 3: quit the day job I was working at the time
39:03
Speaker 3: to focus on who Boise. And I wasn't making very
39:06
Speaker 3: much money, you know, working that job that I was working,
39:10
Speaker 3: and you know, I thought to myself, if I could
39:11
Speaker 3: just get like one or two extra bookings a month, like,
39:14
Speaker 3: I would make just as much from that as I
39:16
Speaker 3: would for my other job. And so I was like, Okay,
39:18
Speaker 3: I'm gonna quit that job and start focusing on this.
39:22
Speaker 3: And so that's given me so much time back, not
39:25
Speaker 3: only to focus on my business, but to be around
39:28
Speaker 3: you know, my wife and son and help out around
39:32
Speaker 3: the house and do things you know together and you know,
39:35
Speaker 3: we get to go grocery shopping at eleven in the morning,
39:39
Speaker 3: you know, and normally I would be at work, but
39:42
Speaker 3: instead I'm doing this. It's definitely helped me a lot
39:47
Speaker 3: mentally and physically. I would say I'm not as tired.
39:51
Speaker 3: I haven't quite got turned around, and I'm making more
39:56
Speaker 3: money than I was before yet, But I know that
39:58
Speaker 3: I have to be patient and it's going to come.
40:01
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of time. I just got to
40:02
Speaker 3: keep grinding doing what I'm doing. But I think, honestly,
40:06
Speaker 3: back to the you know, being an entrepreneur at heart,
40:09
Speaker 3: that is also a big reason why some people don't
40:13
Speaker 3: take the risk and do it is because of the uncertainty.
40:17
Speaker 3: You know, like my business, your business, you know, we
40:20
Speaker 3: started from scratch, We invested money, had skinned the game,
40:24
Speaker 3: and you know it's all on us to not only
40:28
Speaker 3: you know, hopefully make the money back what we invested,
40:31
Speaker 3: but obviously, like the goal is to you know profit
40:34
Speaker 3: as much as you can profit. And that's a scary
40:37
Speaker 3: thing for some people, and you know, sometimes it takes
40:41
Speaker 3: working twelve hours a day being a business owner, and
40:44
Speaker 3: that's you know, the pros and the cons of being
40:47
Speaker 3: a business owner entrepreneur is that you know, there might
40:49
Speaker 3: be some weeks where you know, you work seventy eight
40:52
Speaker 3: hours a week and then you know the next week
40:54
Speaker 3: you're off in Mexico on vacation and you know you
40:56
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about it. So like, that's one
40:58
Speaker 3: of the things I look forward to, and being an
41:01
Speaker 3: entrepreneur is hopefully someday to get our time back, like
41:04
Speaker 3: you mentioned, and be able to spend it with, you know,
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Speaker 3: the people that matter in your life, friends and family
41:10
Speaker 3: and whatnot. So I think it's important to you know,
41:13
Speaker 3: figure out what works for you. And you know, if
41:17
Speaker 3: you are feeling like you're burnt out or working too much,
41:21
Speaker 3: like you have to sit down and really think about
41:24
Speaker 3: what matters to you. And if you know, it comes
41:28
Speaker 3: down to making a change, like you got to make
41:31
Speaker 3: a change to do something, and whether that change we
41:34
Speaker 3: moved jobs or you know, figure out certain daily habits
41:39
Speaker 3: to change or maybe changing your diet, the gym. You know,
41:43
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different things that you can change
41:46
Speaker 3: in your daily life. But you just have to start small,
41:48
Speaker 3: maybe and you know, change one thing at a time,
41:51
Speaker 3: or if it maybe it only is one thing that
41:53
Speaker 3: you need to change, but just figure out, you know,
41:57
Speaker 3: what is working well what isn't, and then you can
42:00
Speaker 3: just accordingly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you said that perfectly. I mean, it's just it's
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Speaker 1: the exact same experience I've gone through where I chose,
42:10
Speaker 1: you know, went to traditional college route University of North Texas, graduated,
42:14
Speaker 1: went to real estate for a year or two, but
42:16
Speaker 1: then I got a full time job and stayed with
42:18
Speaker 1: that type of setup for about ten years, you know,
42:20
Speaker 1: different full time jobs.
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Speaker 2: Because I was really scared of failure.
42:26
Speaker 1: That's actually my biggest thing is failure and wasting time.
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Speaker 2: Those are my two things.
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Speaker 1: And the reason is that time is one thing that
42:36
Speaker 1: we don't know when our time ends. But everyone supposedly
42:40
Speaker 1: gets the same amount of time per day, but we don't.
42:42
Speaker 2: Know how long we're going to live.
42:44
Speaker 1: And if you don't know that, but you do know
42:46
Speaker 1: you have it for certain, you know, twenty four hours
42:49
Speaker 1: a day, what are you choosing to do with those
42:52
Speaker 1: hours that are truly setting you up to get to
42:55
Speaker 1: where you want to go? And if you want to go,
42:57
Speaker 1: is getting in a position where you're comfortable enough to
43:01
Speaker 1: make independent choice of what you do with your time.
43:05
Speaker 1: That's the goal for me, is you know, passion projects
43:08
Speaker 1: in the future. Right now it's building, and for you,
43:11
Speaker 1: you're building right now as well in your building, and
43:15
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of it shows me that, you know,
43:18
Speaker 1: for you, I think you're about six years younger than
43:20
Speaker 1: me at a similar mindset at twenty five, I'm like,
43:24
Speaker 1: I want to get out of the rat race, you know,
43:26
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to just keep working a full
43:29
Speaker 1: time job and going home and working basically another full
43:31
Speaker 1: time hour jobs. Try to start random businesses, try to
43:35
Speaker 1: start a million different things. And I always came back
43:38
Speaker 1: to like, real estate is kind of the path for me.
43:41
Speaker 1: And so when it gets more clear and you can
43:44
Speaker 1: be very decisive on what you're doing with your time,
43:47
Speaker 1: your time becomes more valuable. There's a million other people
43:50
Speaker 1: that can do it. But if you're you know, doing
43:52
Speaker 1: something specific, or you're on a path that maybe some
43:54
Speaker 1: people don't understand with you know, the mountains and the valleys,
43:59
Speaker 1: you got to your motions aside, and you have to
44:01
Speaker 1: just sacrifice something and that might be money, it could
44:04
Speaker 1: be time. It could be relationships, it could be pleasures,
44:08
Speaker 1: you know, entertainment. There's so many different ways to get
44:11
Speaker 1: to where you want to go. And you know, I'm
44:15
Speaker 1: not here to tell someone that my way is the way,
44:18
Speaker 1: but everyone has their own path.
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Speaker 2: And that introspection of sitting down, looking in the mirror,
44:23
Speaker 2: writing down externalize what you really want and it externalize
44:29
Speaker 2: what you're doing today and what's not satisfying that. You know, like,
44:32
Speaker 2: what's not getting you closer to that. If it's getting
44:34
Speaker 2: you further away, then you need to cut it out. Yeah,
44:39
Speaker 2: it's easier said than done. I mean, especially when you
44:43
Speaker 2: have other influences in your life.
44:44
Speaker 1: You might have family members, you might have you know,
44:47
Speaker 1: a girlfriend, boyfriend, husband, wife, fiance that wants something different,
44:52
Speaker 1: you know, and then you got to.
44:53
Speaker 2: Find a way to meet in the middle and make
44:54
Speaker 2: everyone happy. And that's just marriage.
44:56
Speaker 1: But you know, long story short is, I think it
44:59
Speaker 1: takes a certain type of person to be self aware
45:02
Speaker 1: to understand. You need to know where you start. You
45:04
Speaker 1: got to get a baseline then you can start building it.
45:07
Speaker 1: You know, like you said that one thing that needs
45:09
Speaker 1: to change start with a small change, And really that's
45:12
Speaker 1: what this whole thing's about is changing your mindset.
45:15
Speaker 2: Because you change your mindset, you can change everything else.
45:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's well said.
45:23
Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, eventually, you want to stop building other
45:26
Speaker 1: people's companies unless you're just so good at it and
45:29
Speaker 1: you're getting paid handsomely to.
45:30
Speaker 2: Do so, and you love that.
45:32
Speaker 1: But if you if you're more of like you want
45:33
Speaker 1: to build something that you have a legacy or you
45:36
Speaker 1: have something you can control, you got to stop.
45:39
Speaker 2: Building for others and you can start building for yourself.
45:42
Speaker 2: And that painful.
45:44
Speaker 3: It's yeah, definitely, I think right now we're definitely both
45:47
Speaker 3: in this season of building. You know, I'm building who Boise.
45:50
Speaker 3: You know, you're building pmib Tree City or building relationships
45:54
Speaker 3: with people. You know, I'm building a future for my family.
45:57
Speaker 3: You know, you just got married. Someday kids are on
46:01
Speaker 3: the horizon for you, and you know we're going to
46:03
Speaker 3: continue to grow, you know, personally and in business. And
46:07
Speaker 3: you know, I don't have everything figured out yet, but
46:11
Speaker 3: you know, the one thing I do know is I'm
46:13
Speaker 3: willing to work for it, stay patient, and you know,
46:15
Speaker 3: keep betting on myself and I'm always betting on you too.
46:21
Speaker 2: Yep, I agree. And I'm bet on you too. Man.
46:23
Speaker 1: I really think that that's all you can really do
46:25
Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, is just keep one
46:28
Speaker 1: foot in front of another, keep taking baby steps, keep scratch, clawing, biting,
46:34
Speaker 1: doing whatever you need to do to incrementally get better.
46:38
Speaker 2: And that's it.
46:39
Speaker 1: All starts with personal and that reflects in your businesses.
46:42
Speaker 1: And so, you know, everyone that's watching today, I want
46:45
Speaker 1: to say thank you for joining me and Jarrett today.
46:49
Speaker 1: I think conversations like this are important because they show
46:51
Speaker 1: the real side of entrepreneurship.
46:54
Speaker 2: It's not just glitz and glamour.
46:56
Speaker 1: You know, it's not just gold and you know you're like,
46:58
Speaker 1: you start a business and now you're you're well off.
47:00
Speaker 1: In fact, I think it's over ninety percent of businesses
47:03
Speaker 1: fail now and they fail quick like within the first
47:06
Speaker 1: two to five years. So the fact that you're still
47:10
Speaker 1: taking the risk, you're still taking that opportunity on yourself,
47:13
Speaker 1: it just kind of reflects the callous mindset and that's
47:15
Speaker 1: what I want to share with our viewers. So Jared,
47:17
Speaker 1: thank you for being on the podcast today and can't
47:21
Speaker 1: wait to see you soon in person.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, man, and I had a great time. I
47:25
Speaker 3: appreciate it looking forward to it.
47:29
Speaker 1: Thanks again, man, and for anyone wants to follow Jareded,
47:32
Speaker 1: check out whopboyse dot com. You can also find them
47:34
Speaker 1: on Instagram. And if you're in the Treasure Valley area
47:37
Speaker 1: and you're interested in having him at your events, contact
47:40
Speaker 1: him over a DM email contact form call him we'll
47:44
Speaker 1: be happy to discuss when he's available. Appreciate everyone for listening,
47:48
Speaker 1: and we'll see you on the next episode of Callous Mindset.