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146. [Louisiana] Shawn Johnson · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to Bless This Messa, the True Cup Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care here was to say, has to do? All right,
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  Speaker 1: we are back this week and we are going to
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  Speaker 1: Louisiana stud where you're going home right to the old
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  Speaker 1: Marti Grass crawfish, crawfish at Dufe jumbalayah rare beans and.
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  Speaker 2: Rye bezos Uncle T's.
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  Speaker 1: We are going to go to Louisiana. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: going to try October.
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  Speaker 2: That's the plan.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, October ish time, because you know what I want
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  Speaker 1: to do. Speaking of this case, I would if.
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  Speaker 2: We go the first weekend, we can go to the
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  Speaker 2: German Fest and Roberts Cove.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to go.
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  Speaker 3: German so sad?
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  Speaker 2: Why because we went to Frederick.
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  Speaker 1: Because we've been and we've been to real Germany.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we didn't go to real german Fest, but
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: We just went to regular Germany and it topped German
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  Speaker 1: Fest in Louisiana. I know it's not bad, but no,
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  Speaker 1: what I was saying is I would like to go down.
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  Speaker 1: We visit your family, and then we go to New
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  Speaker 1: Orleans for a couple of days and do daytime activities
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  Speaker 1: because we've never done that because we never went with
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  Speaker 1: children do daytime activities. There's lots to do in the
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans during the daytime. It's not all just you know,
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  Speaker 1: debauchery at night.
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  Speaker 2: That, yes, and.
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  Speaker 1: We're about to get into that because this crime happened
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  Speaker 1: in good old New Orleans anyway. So we'd like to
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  Speaker 1: think we got a couple of new Patreons. We really
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  Speaker 1: appreciate everybody, my please for my begging. I didn't beg
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  Speaker 1: I just casually mentioned to buy me a coffee. So
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  Speaker 1: we got a couple more coffee. So I really appreciate
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  Speaker 1: everyone who purchased a coffee for me. That was lovely
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  Speaker 1: of you.
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  Speaker 2: I promise.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't like trying to guilt you guys into it.
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  Speaker 2: You were no.
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  Speaker 1: I was just I was just saying we had that
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  Speaker 1: and it was going strong for a while, and then
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  Speaker 1: everybody kind of forgot about it, and I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, hey, yeah, forget about it. They just weren't doing
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned it every way.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I can mention it casually. It's casual. Also, if
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  Speaker 1: you were a paid if you're a Patreon, you got
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  Speaker 1: the first episode of Shoot the Poo with Karen Stu.
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  Speaker 1: We Stu named it while we were recording it. We're
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  Speaker 1: trying to go with the name, and we will be
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  Speaker 1: recording another one of those this week and putting it out.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're a Patreon, that's a Patreon only exclusive
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  Speaker 1: because we talk we just kind of shoot the poo
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  Speaker 1: about current true crime things like like this week, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about the Brian Coburger thing is one
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  Speaker 1: of the items that were to talk about. I watched
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  Speaker 1: a terrible documentary called Relentless. We're gonna talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna rant about that really anyways, and then just
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  Speaker 1: kind of our life updates, we're gonna tell you all
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  Speaker 1: about swim Lessons because it has really gone down the
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  Speaker 1: shitter this week. It's really gone down the shitter.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we only went two weeks or two days.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that there's a reason why we only went
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  Speaker 1: two days and both days bookend a shit show, like
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  Speaker 1: it was just not good. Both days were bad anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So if you were on the Patreon, we talk about
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  Speaker 1: that kind of fine. For me, yeah, it was fine
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  Speaker 1: because nobody's crime, but I saw some serious situations doing
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  Speaker 1: some serious red flags with their teacher. Anyways, we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about more about that on the shoot the pool with
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  Speaker 1: Karen's too. So if you like to hear personal updates
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  Speaker 1: and then it's just rambling about true crime, that's where
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  Speaker 1: you go. Is on Patreon and I'll put that out
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  Speaker 1: on Monday. Is the plan right now?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: So speaking of that, we do have the Patreon, Patreon
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  Speaker 1: dot com bus this Mess podcast. You can join for
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  Speaker 1: ad free early access and it's just kind of general
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  Speaker 1: support and now we are doing these weekly like life updates.
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  Speaker 1: We also have buy me at Coffee, which I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you guys. I can now buy a coffee, although I
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  Speaker 1: did have Stup pick me up a coffee from Starbucks,
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  Speaker 1: and I swear I don't know what happened, but there
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  Speaker 1: is no training at Starbucks anymore. Starbucks used to be
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  Speaker 1: the place you could go get like a custom coffee,
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  Speaker 1: but if you order anything off the menu and like
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  Speaker 1: have it made a certain way, they can't do it anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So I ordered a coffee, had Stow pick it up,
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  Speaker 1: and then I had to get my money back from
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  Speaker 1: the like online chat. It was terrible. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what they do, but they don't know how to make
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  Speaker 1: anything off the menu that you order custom, right, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know right right, and then I hardly ever go
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  Speaker 1: to Starbucks anymore. I just happened to I was like, really,
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  Speaker 1: craven the coffee that I had from like ten years ago,
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  Speaker 1: and it just isn't there anymore. It's just they can't
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  Speaker 1: make it. And then we have our face this book,
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  Speaker 1: are our Instagram and then the TikTok's really been taken off.
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  Speaker 1: Stew I've been recommending documentaries on there.
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  Speaker 2: How's that working out for you?
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  Speaker 1: It's been going good. I like gain like three hundred
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  Speaker 1: followers over like one post. It was great, really great,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, go check that out and brought us a
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  Speaker 1: review five stars, only criticizing the comments. That's fine, and
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  Speaker 1: fuck you Alice, all right, So so Nick, go and
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  Speaker 1: defend me against Alice on the Facebook. And I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: But she's not gonna see reason. She's she hates us,
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  Speaker 1: and there's nothing we can do about it now. She
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even know. She's a main character now on this
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  Speaker 1: podcast and probably will be for the foreseeable future.
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  Speaker 2: We got a new one, yeah, and we've got some
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  Speaker 2: other one star war reviews.
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  Speaker 1: We can no but we got a bunch of five
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  Speaker 1: star reviews because everybody's trying to bury Alice, and I
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  Speaker 1: really appreciate you guys going back. We got a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of them. I actually went looked at the reviews because
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  Speaker 1: I try not to do that because I'm a little
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  Speaker 1: more sensitive.
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  Speaker 2: I usually sit there and laugh at them.
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  Speaker 1: I know Stu laughs at them, and I take them
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  Speaker 1: like I try not to take them personally. And I
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  Speaker 1: do better now because we've been doing this for so long,
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  Speaker 1: because there's gonna people be people that hate us, specifically
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  Speaker 1: met Oh, that first one star crushed me. I was
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  Speaker 1: at work when Stude told me. I was probably like,
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  Speaker 1: why didn't you tell me about this?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you laughing? It's not funny, It's not funny.
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  Speaker 1: Do they hate us? Anyway? So I have gotten better
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  Speaker 1: about it, but they still I do still take them personally,
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  Speaker 1: so I do not read the reviews unless they're nice.
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  Speaker 2: I read them, still reads.
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  Speaker 1: Them and then comes and tells me about them pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: So and then when it's a one star, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Like, what did they say?
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute? And then I like and then I
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  Speaker 1: go into my podcast up and I slowly scroll down
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  Speaker 1: and I like, close one eyes. I'm looking for the
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  Speaker 1: one star, Like do I want to read this anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So we appreciate everybody who's gone and wrote a good
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  Speaker 1: review after Alice the bit jealous, all right, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's Oh. I have something I wanted to say. No, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but it's really really important. It's about these those TikTok
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  Speaker 1: people I told you about. I was going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about it on our little like Shoot the Pooh with
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  Speaker 1: Karen stew But I want more people to hear this.
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  Speaker 1: So this is about Yes, I want to double the
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  Speaker 1: people that hear this. There is this. This is kind
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  Speaker 1: of true crime related, so hang in there if you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to skip ahead, and it's important. There's this couple
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  Speaker 1: called the Gulf Coast Stapletons, and they are on TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: They have been gallivanting around on their boat in Florida
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  Speaker 1: golf shores, Alabama, boat hopping whatever they do. They're like
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  Speaker 1: in their thirties, late thirties, mid to late thirties. Like
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  Speaker 1: the wife's like the you know, the bleach blonde tan
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  Speaker 1: everything that. Then the husband looks like he was a
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  Speaker 1: frat boy or whatever. Anyways, they have been gallivanting all
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  Speaker 1: over TikTok. They've got up like to like eighty five
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  Speaker 1: thousand followers and things like that. Come to find out
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  Speaker 1: this whole entire time, it came to light here in
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  Speaker 1: the last week that the husband of this woman, they're
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  Speaker 1: called Brittany and Joshua Stapleton, the husband was arrested on
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  Speaker 1: forty counts of child of sexual exploitation. Stuart and they
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  Speaker 1: had back in twenty twenty, and they have just been
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  Speaker 1: out there just living their life on TikTok, acting like
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  Speaker 1: there is nothing wrong with these people, that everything's good,
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  Speaker 1: Like I can't even believe that you would have something
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  Speaker 1: like account for that and you would be arrested for that,
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  Speaker 1: and so for some reason, and then just be out
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  Speaker 1: there in the public, putting your face out there and
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  Speaker 1: acting like everything's fine. Anyways, for some reason, it was delayed,
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  Speaker 1: probably COVID, probably whatever. So it's finally come to the
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  Speaker 1: point where he had to either go on trial or
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  Speaker 1: plead guilty. He chose to plead guilty to twenty counts.
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  Speaker 1: He had forty counts, twenty counts of child sexual exploitation,
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  Speaker 1: and he was sentenced to it was supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: twenty years, but he ended up since he did the
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  Speaker 1: plea deal, he was sentenced to five years in prison
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  Speaker 1: and fifteen years probation.
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  Speaker 2: He probably say, got a year for each charge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he should have fucking been in jail for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of his life. Anyway, So the whole time, the woman,
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  Speaker 1: the wife, is just going on like everything's normal. So
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  Speaker 1: everybody's commenting like your husband's like a terrible human. She
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the devil works hard, but this girl works harder.
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  Speaker 1: She's deleting every comment, blocking every person to try to
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  Speaker 1: keep her comments clean. And so anyway, so all these
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  Speaker 1: because people are trying to expose her to her followers
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  Speaker 1: that this is what's going on, because all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: the husband's going to be gone. He just went to jail,
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  Speaker 1: like he like just in the last couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: So anyways, so then she finally, so everybody's making all
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  Speaker 1: these videos on TikTok, like these people are terrible. The
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  Speaker 1: wife had to have known about it. So then she
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  Speaker 1: goes on there and she makes a video today and
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  Speaker 1: she basically doesn't have any excuse for it. She's just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I knew, and if we had friends that had children,
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  Speaker 1: we let them know and blah blah blah. So basically
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  Speaker 1: she knew he had all this stuff, these charges against him,
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  Speaker 1: these pictures of these children, And when I say these
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  Speaker 1: are like pictures of children, these are not just pictures
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  Speaker 1: of children. These are pictures of children and very graphic
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  Speaker 1: images things being done to them, Like these are not
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  Speaker 1: just a picture of a child or anything like that,
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  Speaker 1: really sick things. But the fact that he only got
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  Speaker 1: five years in prison and these people are gallivanting on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok making money off of.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like they bos need to go to the wood chipper.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And I mean, I just can't even believe she's
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  Speaker 1: just like standing by him. And then people in her
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  Speaker 1: comments like, oh, I'm praying for you. You just stand
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  Speaker 1: by your truth, blah blah blah. There ain't no fucking truth.
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  Speaker 1: The truth is your husband's a pedophile. That's what the
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  Speaker 1: truth is. And you married him anyway. She married him
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and he was charged in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: So they want her to stand by her pedophile.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and she's doing it. She's making excuses for him. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's not even making excuses for him. She's just saying like, basically,
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  Speaker 1: I know and I don't care, is basically yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: she and then she starts crying on the video. I
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  Speaker 1: think she's like, I just lost my best friend today.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, nobody cares about you. You're a terrible human being,
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  Speaker 1: and so is your husband. Anyways, I just wanted to
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  Speaker 1: put that out there because it sounds.
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  Speaker 2: Like our last review that we got that.
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  Speaker 1: We're terribly your husband, oh yeah, anyway, so I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to put that out there that these people are
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  Speaker 1: out there lurking on TikTok making money off of tiktoks.
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  Speaker 1: They should not even be allowed out there to do this.
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  Speaker 1: And she's just they're just going on. One thing is
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  Speaker 1: why is the Georgia And also, it wasn't like whenever
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you that it's uh, you know, child exploitation.
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  Speaker 1: These were all all children twelve and under. This was
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  Speaker 1: not like some situation where it's like a seventeen year
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  Speaker 1: old or yeah, it's not something like that. It's in Georgia.
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  Speaker 1: It was pre pubescent, which means twelve and under. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't understand why the state of Georgia was
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  Speaker 1: allowing this the guy to just live his life.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you should have done some more search.
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  Speaker 1: No, nobody knows why. And this guy is also a predator.
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  Speaker 1: He apparently had been putting when he worked at a
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  Speaker 1: tanning salon in two thousand and nine. He was putting
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  Speaker 1: cameras up in the in the rooms. Yes, and then
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  Speaker 1: in college he apparently got caught for being like a
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  Speaker 1: peeping tom. So this is like he's escalated up to
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  Speaker 1: this point and he's just on TikTok and George's just
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  Speaker 1: let him just live his life for five years going
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  Speaker 1: out on boats getting his son tan. The crazy thing
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  Speaker 1: was that she has friends that have children and they
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: are okay with him being around their children, which is
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely insane. I can't even if I found out, like
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  Speaker 1: you need to get the far the fuck away from
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  Speaker 1: me is possible, I will shoot your ass get away
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  Speaker 1: from me anyway. So I just wanted to put that
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  Speaker 1: out there so that everybody knows how terrible these people are.
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  Speaker 1: If you ever come across them, know that they're a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of liars. The wife's a liar, the husband's a pedophile,
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  Speaker 1: and he deserves to be in jail the rest of
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  Speaker 1: his life, and they should not be making money on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok or anywhere else. Well, what's said is their follower
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  Speaker 1: count has gone up by like five thousand since it started,
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: because people want to like follow the drama, you know,
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  Speaker 1: see what's going on. Yes, I never followed them, but
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  Speaker 1: I do go check it. So I'm contributing to the problem.
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  Speaker 2: You are, Okay, I'm just gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Watch videos that summarize it. So I'm not actually giving
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  Speaker 1: her a knee.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna watch videos of other people that have followed them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, most of the people. She is like working
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  Speaker 1: hard to block anybody that makes any type of video
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  Speaker 1: or comments on her post.
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  Speaker 2: So she's gonna block us why she hears this.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, if she did, if she's a fan of the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: which I hope she's not, because we don't want her
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: kind listening to us. Uh, she will be blocking us anyways.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So that's your public service announcement for today.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a new segment on this Yes Podcas?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I was saying about doing things because you know,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: I love coffee and I love crime. I was thinking
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: about doing coffee and crime, like where I make my
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: coffee and we talk about a crime. But that's on
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  Speaker 1: like TikTok or something or Instagram. Oh but we'll see that,
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  Speaker 1: don't involve it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have to have to be involved with that
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  Speaker 2: bang all right.
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  Speaker 1: Last, okay, so if you were skipping forward, this is
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  Speaker 1: your time to We're gonna pause for one, two three,
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  Speaker 1: Here comes the case, all right. Sean Christopher Johnson was
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  Speaker 1: born December eighteenth, nineteen sixty eight. He lived in Atlanta, Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: and worked in like backstage lighting, putting on events, things
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  Speaker 1: like that. He was described as fun and he just
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  Speaker 1: loved like going out listening to live music things like that.
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  Speaker 1: He just was a good time guy. He drove a
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  Speaker 1: convertible Toyota Celica, which I thought that was an interesting
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  Speaker 1: fact that.
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  Speaker 2: People the sea the car.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this was in two thousand and three that he
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: was driving this, so I guess it was the car.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Honda had the Prelude back when there was a Selica.
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  Speaker 1: I drove a Honda. That was my first car, was
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: a nineteen ninety Honda Prelude. It was tiny and zippy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I sold it pretty fast. And then I drove a
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  Speaker 1: Dodge Rampe a rad dollge Ram. Anyway, so he drove
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  Speaker 1: this Toyota Selica. That's kind of something he was known for.
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  Speaker 1: Sean was always up for meeting new friends every went.
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  Speaker 1: He never met a stranger. And in nineteen ninety five
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  Speaker 1: Sean actually had a I guess he met a woman.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't go into much detail about this woman. But
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five he met a woman. They had
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  Speaker 1: a son named Quinn. The relationship didn't work out, but
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  Speaker 1: Sean was still in Quinn's life and they shared custody.
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  Speaker 1: With Sean's type of work where he is doing the
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  Speaker 1: lighting for events and things like that, and working those
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  Speaker 1: type setting up for things like that, it allowed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it caused for a lot of travel. Obviously, there's not
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  Speaker 1: going to just be events just in your town. So
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  Speaker 1: he had a lot of travel going on. And one
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  Speaker 1: of those events was for Microsoft, and it brought him
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: to New Orleans in two thousand and three for a
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  Speaker 1: week long conference. Now Sean was very excited about this
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  Speaker 1: trip and he actually just to stay just a couple
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  Speaker 1: of extra days just to enjoy you know, good old
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  Speaker 1: New Orleans stew as they do, as we have we
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: have partaken.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you gotta be careful in the Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta be careful anyway. So he's excited to have
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  Speaker 1: these couple extra days just have some fun go out
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  Speaker 1: on Bourbon Street to drink and.
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  Speaker 3: Have a good time, as we have done.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And I know I've told the story about how
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: my mom my parents were like super religious and we
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: got that trip to Orleans and they had no idea
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: what Bourbon Street was and then we saw them topless mermaids.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it should have may be anything other than complished,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: unless it's in a Disney show.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Unless it's an Ariel that our daughter Disney. Yeah, so
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: this is where Sean finds himself partying up on Bourbon.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Street, single, partying up on Bon Street.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: And Stu could tell you some stories about New Orleans.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, I could definitely tell you some stories.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Well, you could tell some story before you met me.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: We could tell some stories when we were together. But
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: we will continue on with the case to not anger
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: people that just want to know what happened.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: On July nineteenth, two thousand and three, a house keeper
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: entered the room of a Courtyard Marriotte in New Orleans, Louisiana.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: It was room two O two to be exact.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Two.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know I wrote that very funky on the page,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: that's why you skipped over it. But it was room
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: two O two.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: There she finds a man floating in a jetted tub.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: The water was her first crime was the jetted tub.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Let's be honest to whenever they said jetted tub.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, listen, can you imagine a jetted tub in a
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: hotel room?
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: In New Orleans, I was.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I was unwise at one point in my life. And
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: whenever me and Stu bought our first house to get
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: to get well, not together, you bought your first house,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: and I was just the spicy bitch that came along,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the floozy that came along with you. The one thing
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: that sold me was like, oh my god's dude, there's
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a jetted tub in the bathroom. But as we lived
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: in that house for ten years and I got the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: cleaning stuff for it and everything like that and really
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: started thinking about it, I will never, ever, ever in
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: my life ever own a home with a jetted tub. Again.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: They are absolutely disgusting. It's not like having a hot
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: tub out like in your pool, where it's like this
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: huge circulation of chlorinated water all the time. There's this
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: stuff you can buy on Amazon that's specifically to clean
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the jets in a jetted tub, and the first time
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: you put it in there the water turns brown. It
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: is so disgusting because that water just yes, yes, the
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: water just sits, and the bacteria and everything like that
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: from people bathing just sits in those pipes in there.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: It doesn't it's not moving around like when you're at
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: a hot tub in a pool like where it's moving
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: around constantly. It's not like that. And it's open to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the atmosphere where it can those things can die off.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: It's just setting and just ooh, it's disgusting. So I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: can't even imagine, I mean, no hotels currently this was
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three. I can't believe. I mean, I'm
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: sure there are like play like that, maybe in Lost
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: veags tubs, but I can't imagine currently in New Orleans
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: any hotel unless it's a CD motel that has.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: A jetted the hotel motel.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's probably in the shape of like a heart,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: and they probably have like red lighting.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I'm getting excited just thinking about it.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, so that was the first time I was like, oh,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: jetted tub. We need to do better people.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, that was the first crime.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, that was the first crime.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: The housekeeper finds a man floating in the jetted tub.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: The water was red from all the blood. She immediately
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: leaves the room and calls police, as one might imagine
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: she would. Police arrive to find a very disturbing scene.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: There were pages of the Bible torn out and plastered
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: all over the walls. So somebody took the hotel Bible
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: out of the drawer. I guess he wet the pages
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and slapped him on the wall. There was a rag
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: doll lying on the bed, and in the hot tub
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: there was a man in red stained water.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, very disturbing all around. Just looking at this.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It was clear that he had been beaten and then
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: left in the bathtub. There was also a broken champagne
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: bottle around the scene, and autopsy would later rebuild the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: man had several fractures to a skull, indicating that he
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: had been beaten and that the champagne bottle had been
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the murder weapon.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: One of the murder weapons, one of them.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: The actual manner of a death was drowning. Immediately, police
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: were wondering if there was some type of satanic ritual
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: happening in this room, and they were able to quickly
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: identify the man as thirty four year old Shawn Johnson.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I mean we are in New Orleans due we've been
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: on I mean.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Your memory. You refused to go on to Marie Levo's
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: voodoo shop with me, yes, he thought. I was like, no,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: this is the tourist shop.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, stud, you're about to Okay, listen, guys,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I grew up very religious. I mean to the point
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: where I could tell you some stories about.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: My child you already have.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think I've told them all that, No, I don't.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I've told him some a casual you know, exorcism,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: things like that. It's fine, it's fine. No. I grew
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: up in a very religious home. So when Stu first
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: brought me down there, this would have been so when
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: we first started dating in two thousand and ten, the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: birthday present he gave me was a trip or Christmas
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: present was a trip to New Orleans for New Year's
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And so that's whenever you were like, hey, we're going there,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't go in there, like Stu. I mean,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: keep in mind, I grew up in a church where
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: they told me that Santana's music was yes, that I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: can't listen to his music because no, he said, it'll
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: let the the devil will enter you and stuff like
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: that if you listen to Santana. So like when I
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: tell you I grew up in a very extreme religious.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Suation, why would they pick on Santana, I don't understand.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Because I guess at some point he said a quote
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: like he that listening to his music he had a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: a like a ritual orgasm or or something in his soul,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: like did something. Anyways, they harped on that shit hardcore
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and I remember it to this day. So when Stu
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, we got to go in this voodoo shop,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, whoa back up? Satan, backup?
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: I was like no. I was just like, hey, you
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: want to go to Mario Levoz. It's the famous tourist
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: trap here in New Orleans for voodoo.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: You know I do. I don't know if to this
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: dad want to go in there because I still have
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: a I don't want to like with ghosts and things
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: like that, I don't want to say I don't know
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: if I believe in them. But I don't want to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: say I don't believe them because I don't want to
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: be I don't want to anger them, you know. So
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just neutral I'm Switzerland with it all. I don't
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: want to go in the voodoo shop. I don't want
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: to touch the Ouiji board. I don't want to do
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: any because I don't want to like draw anything to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: me if it's real. If it's real, it could be real,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to be involved. So that was
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: our But yeah, No Orleans had If you've never been
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: in New Orleans and don't know much about it, drinking
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: is one thing.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Get on the get on the forums and find out
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: from the locals what to do, what not to do.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is okay, well no, not about
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that story. They're not actually going I'm just saying, if
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you don't know about New Orleans, it's known for drinking
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and partying, but it's also known for its like ghost stories, vampires,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: those type of spiritual things, witchcraft, voodoo. It's it's a
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: place where people that are into that stuff, that's where
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: they go. And so we've been on ghost tours there.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: We went on a ghost tour, remember, oh yeah, we
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: did go on one.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Peace so Bad. I ran down to the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: first bar year, the gay bar, the lumberjacket around they're
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: paying I'm like what the hell there's guys on stage dancing.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, anyway, so yeah, so when we go
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: in October, though, That's what I was saying is I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: would like to go and kind of go see all
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the cemeteries. You go to the New Orleans Cemetery, there's
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Marie Levau.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: All those things.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Going to go to the museum World War Two Museum.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I guess Stuart, you nearly done brought the vibe down,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You made me miss it last time we were there
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: because you got so drunk.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: So shut up, Stew. Don't even get me started on
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: the last time we were there and someone got so
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: drunk someone had to go retrieve someone's phone. We'll tell
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: the story in a minute, Okay, we'll sell it for
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: later on, for when people are still aroummed, if they
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: haven't got agitated by our side story. Okay. So police
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: are starting to look at this crime scene. They are
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: concerned that there is some sort of like Stew said,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a like a cult or witchcraft or satanic angle. The
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: doll that was on the bed, police were told. They
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: started asking around about and police were told it was
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: something called.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: A familiar I'm not familiar with that.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: No, so let me. I looked it up, guys, because
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I wasn't either. So in even though I did buy
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: a broom to build in Salem, that's.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Bringing the devil in the ghost into our house now, which.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I am going to build. It's been two years. I
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: need to builded in this October. I'm gonna do thatm
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I bought all the parts you can go in and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: like build a broom and stuff like that. That's hocus
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: pocus toward. That's so like New Orleans is sinister. Salem
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: is like fun.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, they killed people there.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Well, you know it is what it is, all right.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: So in witchcraft, a familiar is as small animal or
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: imp kept as a witch's attendant, given to her by
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the devil, or inherited from another witch. The familiar was
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a low ranking demon that assumed any animal shape, such
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: as a toad, dog, insect, or black cat. Sometimes the
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: familiar was described as a grotesque creature of fantasy, an
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: analgam of several creatures. It would subsist on sucking blood
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: from the witch's tit no, I'm sorry, the witch's finger.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: The doll that okay, So the doll that police described
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: had real human hair that was in braids. It also
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: had a pentagram on the front. And so when I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: was looking this up those two I didn't feel like
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: it was a familiar. When I read that definition, I'm like,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: these dumbasses got this all wrong. I felt it was
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: more described as like, maybe like what I found.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: It was a puppet Scalo puppet now.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Means Stu had an argument about this. He says that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: in Lord of the or Not Lord of the Rings,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Orlando blooms and bo so calm down. In Pirates of Caribbean,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: that one sailor calls, uh, the girl that's been stolen
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Kiara Knightley. He Stu thinks he and I remember this
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: to it. He says, hello, puppet, But I think he's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: saying puppet. Stu thinks he's saying, I don't know. Why
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: would he call her a.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Puppet because he's gonna stick his hand up her ass
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and work her mound.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: No, but why would he call her a puppet? Because
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: let me explain what a poppet is. A poppet is
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: a small doll like representation of a person used in
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: sympathetic magic to influence the person. Now, the it's made
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to report to look like an individual. They would say
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the poppeit was the influence for the voodoo doll later on.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: You know, So first we had the poppet and witchcraft,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: and then they took over with the voodoo doll, which
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: most of us know. It's like they're sticking pins and
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: things to like hurt people and stuff like that. Anyway,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: so I looked that up and I felt like it
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: was more of a poppet. And if you are wondering
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: what sympathetic magic is, those are the magics that are
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: believed to like do actions on a person, similar to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like a voodoo doll. So they would do they would
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: do something to that and that person would feel it. Anyways,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: So in case anybody is wondering, is anybody wondering.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: She's just making words up.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyways, so I feel like it was more
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: than a like a poppet and rather than a familiar
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So on top of this murder, they now have this
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: crazy possible motive which is witchcraft, satanism, occultism, something. They
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: got to figure it out because this crime scene is gross, gross,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: insane task there's a fucking jetted tub involved. I mean,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: things are bad, Okay, things are real rough up in
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: New Orleans right now.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Hair and skin from god knows how many.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: All I'm thinking about is skin slippage. Oh, Caleb, that
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: has nothing to do with this case. But another case
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that we're going to cover next week involves the words
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: skin slippage. Anyways, all right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Police process this crime, saying Kara, but they can't find
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: any evidence to point them in the right direction. There's
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: no fingerprints or anything that like that. So they must
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: now rely on the hotel surveillance to try to find
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: out who did this to Sean.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: It's hard because his body was in the tub. And
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: then they're also in a hotel room, so obviously there's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: gonna be fingerprints from all sorts of people coming in there.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Like any They don't scrub them hotel rooms down. If
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: they came into one of our hotel rooms, they know
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: we wipe everything down that touches fingerprints with Clorox wipes.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The people at the damn Airbnb's and they start cleaning.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: They need to start cleaning their stuff better, because I'm
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: having to start bringing cleaning kits to just clean up
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the places.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Everywhere we go. Yeah, and then charge them for our cleaning.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, and be like I'm charging you for cleaning fee.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Ye that I found under your.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Why was there a Philadelphia cream.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Under the couch with all this desktop?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: We'll never get over that one.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Now. It was the container, I thought, or was it
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: just the lid.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: It was just the lid.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: It was still gross.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It's still gross.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Police also talk to the neighbors of the of Shawn's room.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I'm where to call them.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Neighbors, but the nearby rooms. Basically the nearby occupants of
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the nearby rooms.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: One of them recalls harrying a loud bang and then
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: a man saying, I am God and you are my servant.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I mean just a casual note in New Orleans though,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: releas dude.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, just about any where you go in
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: the French Court, you're gonna find it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: You're gonna find some something going on.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's gonna be a guy with a preaching to
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: you with a big old billboard.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Or there's gonna be a guy with a chain around
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: his neck dragging his girlfriend behind him, you know.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Boyfriend, Ord's boyfriend.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It's just gonna happen.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: They were able to get survey aillance video from the hotel,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: and this is where they spine. Sean. He's walking with
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: his killers. At approximately five thirty am, you see Sean
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: entering the hotel and walking down the hall. He's with
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: four other people. And when you look at these people,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: you can clearly tell that they are of a different lifestyle.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Let's very different lifestyle.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Sean has his button down shirt, not like the other
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Sean has his button down shirt and his jeans.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I thought it was very shady because the bitch in
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the show, the narrator show, she's like, oh, he had
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: his button down shirt and his wrinkled jeans. Like, seriously, lady,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that's just rude, right, why would you say he has
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a wrinkled jeans? I didn't find they were very He
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was dressed in normal clothes, like normal everyday people clothing.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: And the other four people look like it looked like
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: they had just robbed a hot topic. They look like.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: They looked like they were the dominant in the relationship.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Looked like they were hot topic model.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, hot topic models.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: They're dressed from head to toe in black gothic style
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: clothing or hot topic clothing? Am I throwing too much
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: shade at hot topic?
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Is hot topic still a thing?
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't been to a mall in Oh.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: We've been to a mall because that's where the eye places.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: The only reason we've been to the mall is because
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: your eye doctor is the lens crafter is in the mall.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It's vision Works.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Vision Works is in the mall. It's keeping that place
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: of float.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: But I didn't walk down the other area to see
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: if there was a hot topic. No, or Spencer's. I
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: did used to enjoy, Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Spencer's gifts hot topic, Yes, get the farts braying. I
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: was not allowed to go in that story.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Anyway. The four goth people to her male two or female.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: The female at the front has bright blonde hair, and
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: she sticks out a little more than the others.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the rest of them have the dark lips,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: like the dark hair, dark lipstick, dark fingernails. And then
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: she's walking in with this bright bleach blonde hair.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: She's holding hands with the male at the front that
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: is walking next to her. She is also holding the
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: doll that they found in the room.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Just skipping along, just very creepy.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Yep. Sean is walking in front of the group and
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: they're all smiling. I wonder what they're smiling about. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: mean Sean, come.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: On, Sean was smiling too.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I know Sean was smiling.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Good is happening unless you're just waking up because you
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: went to bed at nine pm and you're going to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: get a coffee at Cafe Dumont.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Like or getting some breakfast or something. They all look
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: like they're having a good time. While this group was dressed. Definitely,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: it was not unheard of to have goth style people
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: in New Orleans.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was a big gothic community.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: There, Yes, with all the band I mean that's where
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Anne Rice lived and wrote the vampire books.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's common there. I mean, you're gonna walk
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: down the street. It's not abnormal to see someone dressed all.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: In black and live in that vampire life, live in.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: That vampire lifestyles too. Sucking the finger of a witch
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: or hear too.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite shows though, is American Horse Story
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Coven New Orleans. Yep, the one where they're the witches
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and there in New Orleans. That's a good one. I did.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I kind of lost track when they got Lady Gaga involved.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch that one.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Didn't watch that one.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't really watch Freak Show either, but I did
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: enjoy That was my definitely my favorite one because I
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like all that stuff, like from a distance, though I
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: don't want to be haunted.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I lived.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: As they continue to watch the footage, they find that
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the dark headed woman leaves about forty five minutes later,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: so this is around six to fifteen, and an hour
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: after that, the other three leave the hotel. Despite having
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: the video of the perpetrators, police are at a dead
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: end because they don't know who the names of these
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: people are and they don't have any other evidence to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: go on at the crime scene. They get their first
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: break about twenty four hours after the murder occurred, and
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: the woman that left at six point fifteen, the.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Dark headed lady, notf the blonde lane.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, the dark haired one. She comes into the police
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: station to talk to police. She says her name is
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Cat and that she and the others met Sean at
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: a bar called the Dungeon. The Dungeon, yes, I have
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: been to.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: The says he's been to the Dungeon, But then I
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: started questioning him.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Why why you question me?
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: They okay, because they say that the Dungeon is it
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: opens at midnight and it's open to the wee hours
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: of the morning, so it's not your common bar. You're
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: going to go, you know, get one of them green
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: drinks at the grenades, and yeah, if you've never been
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: in New Orleans, do not drink the grenade. To get one,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the glow in the dark grenade, you have to do
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: it one time, and you gotta go get a hurricane.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Don't get you well, get drunk, and if you get drunk,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: you will throw it up.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: But don't get drunk on them.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: No, have one, Have one and move on with your drink.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Half of it, throw the other half out, and.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Then you're gonna go to get You're gonna go to
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: get a hurricane at Pat O'Brien's piano bar. You're gonna
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: go do that. You're gonna get the grenade. You're gonna
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: get questionable shots from some guys standing on a corner,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Like remember when we did them shots some little like
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: they look like test.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Tubes from a guy on a corner.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were standing out on the corner.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Now, yes, no, yes, unless they were standing outside the bar.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Well, they were standing outside of a bar. There's people, No,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: there's people standing outside of bars. With like shots and
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: things like that. You're gonna do all that. You're probably
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: gonna go into possibly a strip club or even worse,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a sex club, which that was a mistake, and you're
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: gonna exit quickly. You're gonna be like, why is everything
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: so sticky?
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Anyway, So, uh, what was I saying?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: You're talking about a sex club? I mean, I think
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: you ought to explain it.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Why would I explain it, Stuart.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Because people are gonna think you went into a club
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: where people have sex with each other.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: People were having sex on the stage. Yes, okay, we
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: weren't having sex.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, think all my moms did.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I can't believe you just said that.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I find humor in the darkness. Okay, Stuart, No,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, thank thank god, she's not hearing this. Anyways. No,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: we did go into a We were very drunk. We
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: had gone into a strip club. We also went into
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: one of the sex clubs, and they are in New Orleans.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: They actually have clubs where you could the people are
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: having sex on stage, like in front of you, which
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: was also a theme in the book. I just read.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, you never did read that trigger.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I never read that trigger warning on the thing. Anyways,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: let's move on from it. It was a very very
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: brief moment in time. I was young, I was dumb,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I was drunk. Dude doesn't have any of those excuses.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: But uh, we went in and I quickly was like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: this is not for me. I feel very creepy in here.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: This is disgusting.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: It was great.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: After like thirty or forty minutes, She's like, we have
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: to leave.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: No, I was like, we got to get out of here.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: This is not for me anyway. So those types of
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: things are happening. So the dungeon was more of a goth.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: So why are you questioning whether I.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Was in this blog because you said because it's they
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: said it's gothic, Like theyre are goth people in there.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: You're not goth. Stewart unless goth girl, It's not just goth. Okay,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: well that's what they said on the TV show.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Back when I was there. It was thirty plus years ago.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, come and tell us the story.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Grandpa, and I did have my leather jacket because we
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: were listening to the like Slayer and.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, so you work goth and Metallica.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Seriously, you think, yeah, anytime I put Slayer on, You're like, Nope,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that's devil.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: No, that's the devil. The devil is try to enter
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: this home right now, we need to no goth is right.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: I'm so sad because they sold out of my clothes
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: at hot topic.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: That's not even true. Yeah, all right, we done drifted off.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: But anyways, the DA even described the Dungeon as she said,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it's dark, stinky, and nasty, and she said it like
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: that with her little head tilt. And like we said,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: it's a late night bar. It opens at midnight, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: they got.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: In there at midnight, probably drank a bear or two
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and then left. Okay, I don't even remember hardly being
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: in there, but I know I've been there, all right.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: So anyways, this is the go to place for goth people,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and that if you would want to go late at night.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: So Sean would have stuck out like a sort thumb
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: with his white button down in his normal clothing. So
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: he is in, you know, this club, and he runs
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: into this group of people and they decide to continue
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the night together. They asked Cat about the identity of
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: the other people and that were there with her, and
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: she said that the girl's name was Never. Really, yes,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the girl's name was Never, but that was her street
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: names do she didn't know her real name at all.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And the guy's name was Worry, the one that she
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: was boyfriends with, and that was his street name is
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Wet as well, so their nickname was Never Worry.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: That way.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: The goths, they have their street names. And she said
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: she knew the other guy as Ben, and that's about
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: all she knew about him. She doesn't know if that's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: his real name or that's just what he went by.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: She was able to tell police that Never was actually
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: wearing a blonde wig and that wasn't her real hair.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Kat tells police that Sean was buying drink after drink
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: for them, and whenever the bar was actually closing, he
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: invited them back to his hotel room. Kat said she
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: really didn't want to go with him, but Never said,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: like it is basically saying nope, you're in this group,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: now you're coming with us, And so she kind of
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: drags her down the street and Cat said I could have, like,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I could have gotten away from her because
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I'm bigger than her. But basically I didn't feel like
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I had a choice. It sounded like there were young kids.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: And they had like pierce pressure pressure. Yes.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: My favorite part of Kat's interview with police was that
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: she's she had told Never, I don't want to go
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: with you. I want to stay out here with Weasel
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: and C and some other street kids. I hang out
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: weaseling cue.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Come on, was that the weasel with one eye? No?
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Anyways, Never tells her that they're going to have a
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: champagne bath, and that's when Kat's you know, she's just
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: saying she just felt like she was pressured to go
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: with them. But she did tell she did tell uh
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Never she did not want to partake in an idea
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of the merriments, which I don't know what that means.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Kat said, Shit, she was not drunk that night. She'd
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: only had one drink, but No and Worry were highly intoxicated,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and Ben had had a few drinks, but he was
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: not on the level of Never.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And Worry with the merriments.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, is that what they mean? Merriments?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess drugs possibly maybe the drugs.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I mean there had to be drugs.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Involved, do you think?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So Kat said that she was in this hotel
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: room with them, and she quickly became uncomfortable after Sean
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: began undressing and he got into the hot tub. Well,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: she was just wanting She just wasn't wanting any part
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: of this or anything like that, and so she lies
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: to them, basically comes up with an excuse, says, I'm
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be in big trouble if i don't leave. Its
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: freaking six fifteen in the morning.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: My mom is going to be so mad if I'm
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: not home by seven thirty.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So she said she had to get out of there.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: So she makes an excuse and she bolts out. That's
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: why we see her leave at around six fifteen. As
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Kat is leaving, we or never says, you're gonna mess
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: out on the fun Ket's just like what, I don't
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: give a fuck, peace out. So she describes exactly how
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: she left, saying she got in the second elevator, she
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: went down into the lobby, she saw this, she went right,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: she went left, she went here, she went there, down
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: to the littlest detail. So it was clear to police
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: that she was not overly intox kid because she remembered
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: and they could match it up with the camp the video, Citty,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: she told them exactly what she did, and she was
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: well aware of this whole entire everything she did after
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: she left that hotel room, so they believe she was
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: telling the truth about this. And she also did not
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: leave with the rest of the group. So now police
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: are back to pretty much square one because they have
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Cat but they don't believe she had anything to do
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: with the actual killing. So now that they've got to
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: define the identity of these other three people when they
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: have possibly a real name, definitely two of them with
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: street names, who are these people?
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Six days after Shawn's murder, in the town of Bradenton, Florida,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: a woman comes into the hospital claiming that she had
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: been sexually assaulted and that her boyfriend had been kidnapped.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: That her and her boyfriend had been kidnapped by a
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: large white male and brought here to Bradenton, Florida.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Brighton, Florida looked very beautiful on the surface footage. No,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like what they were showing. I don't
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: know if anybody lives there, but I don't know what.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't look up what part of Florida it is in. Oh,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's down it's by Tampa. I think it's
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: down by Tampa.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they said north of Tampa.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Well, she tells them that they had escaped. A detective
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: is called to the woman's hospital room to investigate her story,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: and she says that she was able to escape, but
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: that her boyfriend was not so lucky. She said she
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: was running away. When she turned around to see if
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: her boyfriend was behind her, she said she heard gunshots Kara,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: oh God, and then she sees her boyfriend lying on
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: the ground. She was able to flag down a ride
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: to the hospital, and that's how she ended up here.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: According to her story, Yes, she was given a victim's
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: advocate just to help with her story and help support
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: her during this time. She told the detective their name
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: was Carla Frye.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Her name was Carla fry That's what I meant. You
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: said their name? Her name is Carla Frye. Yes.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Yes. As they do the examination on her, they find
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: that she has no evidence of sexual assault and her
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: story was very fantastical as one might imagine. She's raped,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: she's kidnapped.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: She does this escape, she flags in a car, her
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: boyfriend is shot, all these things. It's not that he
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: didn't necessarily.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: It's a whole nother podcast we have.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is like a whole other case. So
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: it's not that the detective didn't initially, it's just that
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: things he's done, he works specifically in these types of
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: crimes against people, and things were just seemed a little
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: bit too extra.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: For him, a little.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: The guaca is extra, and so is she, you know.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: The The detective does confront her about this fact and
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: that there is no evidence of sexual assault, and she
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: quickly retracks her story and tells them that she actually
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: just had a UTI, So she made up the story
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: so that she could get some medical assistance.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Which again doesn't make sense because you can just go
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: into any hospital and get treated and they can't turn
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: you away, Like, yeah, if it's an emergency, yes they
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: got to treat you. So whatever you say, they're going
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to go in and help you.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter whether you can pay her or not.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they might bill you if you can't pay. It
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: just goes into thin air.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Well, Carla is Carla is Carla. As we will find out,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Carla is Carla. Detective is still confused as to why
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: there is an elaborate story to get a UTI, so
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: he asked UTI treatment. So he asked her to tell
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: the story again. She goes back to the beginning and
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: she tells a story that she's kidnapped, and she says
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: she was kidnapped because.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: She keeps going, let me just be clear, because this
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: is confusing. She she said that the whole story. Then
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: she said she had a UTI, and then he said, well,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: can you just talk me through this again? So then
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: she goes back to the story where she was kidnapped,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: like she's just bouncing around.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Well, in the news story, the third or
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: fourth version, she says she's kidnapped because she witnessed a
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: homicide and sit inside a hotel room at a Marriotte
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Courtyard in New Orleans. They asked her what her boyfriend's
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: name was, and she said that she didn't know what
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: his name was because he went by the street name
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: of Worry, and she told him that her street name
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: was never so together as we told you, they were worried.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're never worried. She's like, yeah, that's exactly
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it got cool, you get it.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: These people are oh, Carla, Carla, Carla, Carla.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: She had and she has such a terrible name, Carla Fry.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so uncool, no wonder she went by, never.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with Carla Carla Fry?
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Stuw what Carla Fry.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Like curly Fry? Yes, from Jack in.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: The Box, which are excellent, by the way, very expensive,
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: but excellent, Carla Fry. Yes, we we we've got we
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: got Jack in the Box for the We got jacked
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: at Jackmine. Okay, we don't normally eat out that much,
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: but I have been working overtime for the last month
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: due to a work deadline anyway, so we've been eating
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: out a lot more, and so we I was like, Stu,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: just grab, just grab something. He's like, oh, there's a
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: Jack in the Box across tray.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's great. Curly I've had a Curly
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Fry and I can't remember, so he gets it. It
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: was forty four dollars, people, forty four dollars. That's insane
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: for two We didn't even get three kids meals. We
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: make them little brats, split two kids meals between the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: three of them because the two don't hardly eat. The
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: baby basically eats all their food anyway, So it is
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: forty four dollars for me and stew to have a meal,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: to get them a kid's melt, and then we got
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: an extra fry because the kids do love the.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Fries as do what didn't even get a damn kid's
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: meal toy.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: No, they don't even come with the kid's mal toy
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Like it was insane. So that was our once once
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: every five year Jack in the Box visit. We will
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: not be doing that again.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: No, No, little something you want to advertise with us
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Jack in the.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Box, Little Caesars is where it's at. I feel like
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Jack in the Box needs to advertise though, because I
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: do not see them around that often. They're very few
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: and far between. You know, there's none in Lafayette. No,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: there's only one here. Yes, so, and this is a
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: fast food like.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: You know, well trash everywhere.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: You can just really thrive in this environment. So anyways, yeah,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: so we little Caesar's where it is. Where it's at though,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: because you can eat lunch and dinner for like twenty bucks.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Well, as soon as they open us goddamn Roadies, I
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: can go down and get a hind so.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Excited about the Rudies opening up, which that's an expensive
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: endeavor as well.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: It isies a couple of times here lately.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I know I can't get on board with Dickies. I'd
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: rather have the ch B Barbie. What are you laughing about?
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: You can't get on board with Dickies.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Why are you going to turn everything into something? Okay,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: we got to get back on track because this is
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: already the longest episode ever.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: You're the one. We'll turn Carla Fryan to Curly Prize
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: to tell a story about Jack in the box. I
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: don't know why you're blaming me for this shit. The
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: detective has a patrol offer, so send a message out
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: to the New Orleans PD to see if this is
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: a true story about a homicide in the courtyard Marriot.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, come on, a homicide New Orleans.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: It's in the courtyard marriage.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Well, that is more specific, but homicide New Orleans is
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: an everyday occurrence.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's plenty of them. He gets a call back
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: from a detective saying, yes, by God, we are investigating this,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: and he runs down the whole story as to how
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: they're looking for these people.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he tells them. He says, okay, one of
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: them's name never and one of them's name worried these
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: are the names we got from the one of the
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: people that was at the scene. And now this detective
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: in Florida, he knows, I have one of these suspects
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: in this hospital room right here in front of me,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: that is part of this homicide.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: The detective does not tell Carla that he knows about
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: the homicide, and he's spoken to the that he has
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: spoken to the detective in New Orleans because he wants
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Carla to continue to basically tell the story so that
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: they can I mean, she's.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Threaded her mouth and every time she tells it, she
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: says a little bit more. And if she's not worried
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: about in, you know, implicating herself in an actual murder
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: in New Orleans. She thinks she's so far away that
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: there's no way that they know about this.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that wouldn't extra out her back to the to
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: the country of New Orleans.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's so stupid. She thinks, I'm only in Florida.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: There's no way they're going to pick up a phone
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: and call these people and confirm this. It's like I'm
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: talking to the police or anything like that. Although in
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: her defense, there are a lot of police departments. She'd
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: be like what the fuck? Why didn't you call the
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: New Orleans police and ask about Yeah, we have.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Heard lots of this stuff. Well, anyway, Carla begins by
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: saying that she was at the Dungeon, which was the
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: bar we talked about at the length because of Kara,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: and that they went back to the hotel with Sean.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: In my defense, we talked about the sex club more.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, Carla said that she got into the hot
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: tub with Sean and that's when Worry picked up a
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: champagne bottle and struck Sewn over the head multiple times,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: breaking the bottle. Blood's going everywhere. She said that he
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: pretty much went into a black outrage when he was
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: beating Sean. After he got done beating him, he then
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: held Sean under the water and never claims that she
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: was not part of the murder. She did not participate.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: She was just watching all this happen. After the murder occurred,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: they drove to Florida and it ended up in Bradenton, Florida.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Obviously, do what for the clarification?
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're welcome.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Carla claimed that she does not know where her boyfriend is,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: that he left her a note at a restaurant and
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: said that he would find her, but she has no
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: clue where he's gone.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: And she also doesn't know his real name, Like, she
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: knows nothing.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: How is this your boyfriend?
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: They just how are you not being like, this is
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: the dude, the dude that I was fucking. The dude
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: that I was fucking brought me hair and then he
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: loved me.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like at some point you could be like, hey,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: the gig is up. Can we just can we call
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: each other by our real names now? Or we're just
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: going to keep doing this. I guess he was real.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: They were real hard into this never Worry little stick
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: they had going on. So with all this information, police
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: decide to charge Carla Nicole Fry with first degree murder.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Now she's only twenty years old. This is pretty early
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: to be doing this kind of nonsense too, mm hmm.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: They said Carla was completely emotionless when she was arrested.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: She showed no remorse, She had no reaction as she
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: was taken into custody. They now need to focus on
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: finding Worry and Ben. Police are blasting the photos all
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: over New Orleans, hoping that someone there would recognize one
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: of the suspects. Well, just a few days after they
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: arrest Carla, they look out someone comes forward saying that
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: they know who Ben is. Because again, this was pretty
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't great clear CCTV, but it was
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: good enough that someone would recognize. And yes, the goth
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: community was large in New Orleans, but it wasn't like everybody.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: You know, It's not like it was ninety percent of
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: the population or anything like that. So it was it
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: was a small community within a larger community.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: We thank you for that.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: So they find out that the person tells him that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: this Ben guy is actually Benjamin Anthony and he works
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: at a restaurant in the French Quarter. Police head to
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: his apartment to question him. Well, police say that this
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: apartment was when they entered it, it was dirty, it was unkept,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: it was very dark. He was just kind of a
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I just imagine, like a gross, greasy guy, like greasy hair,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: no purple in life, kind of like met me and
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: he's just Stuart. You don't have any hair, Okay, anyways,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: so you know he And what I thought about though,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: is like, man, he's working at a restaurant and he's
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: just nasty. It reminds me of this restaurant we went
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to in Lafayette, and I was like, we had to
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: actually leave. We throw our food out, Me and my friend.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: We threw our food out because it was so disgusting.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: It was actually pretty famous restaurant because that's the last
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: one that Mickey Schuenick, the girl that went missing in
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Lafayette artmosphere, that's the last place that she was seen alive. Anyways,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: we can do that story another day. But the we
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: have our reasons why we didn't do it, because we
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: lived in the town and we were afraid of her sister.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Anyways, where are we afraid of the sister?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: The sister was like soon after, we were Okay, I'm
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna derail anymore because we've already
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: it's already too. It's already too much too, it's already
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: too long. Anyways, he was just kind of this gross guy.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: He didn't like having a purpose in life. That's how
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: police described him. He just looked like someone who was
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: just subsiding, not bathing. Things like that. They tell him
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: what they found, and they tell him that they have
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: footage of him at the hotel. At the same time
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: that this murder is occurring at the police station. Ben
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: walks detectives through that evening. He said that they went
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: back to Sewn's hotel room. Sean was pouring champagne into
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: that jetted tub.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: And they drinking it no.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: St and getting it ready for like this whole big
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: thing that they had planned to happen. So while he's
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: doing this, Ben is just bored. So he's the one
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: that actually ripped the pages out of the Bible and
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: just starts sticking them all over the wall because he
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: just doesn't have any purpose behind it. There's no Satanic ritual.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: He's just bored, and he's like, I'm gonna shove this
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: stuff on the wall. And while they're getting the bathtub
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: filled up with with champagne, he says that he sees
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: Sean get undressed and he gets into the bathtub, so
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: does Never, and then Ben gets in as well. Well.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: At some point, Sean and Never start getting a little
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: too close, you know, touch speed, a little smoothie smoochy
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: touching each other. Well that's when Worry, who I don't
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: believe they every one of the stories that tells it
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Worry was not in the bathtub. So he takes a
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: champagne bottle and starts beating Sean over the head. Well,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Ben says, when this happened, He's like, I'm out people, okay.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: He says that he jumps out of the hot tub,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: puts his clothes back on. He says he stepped back
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: and looked and Worry was still beating Sean. But then
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Worry pushed his head after he drops the bottle, pushes
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: his head under the water until he stopped moving. They
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: asked him, if you know, like, what was Never doing
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: during all of this time, and he said that she
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: was jumping up and down, giddy and basically cheering on
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Worry while he was murdering Sean. Ben says that he
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: was just in shock about this whole entire thing. They're
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: leaving the hotel room, and something he finds even more
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: disturbing was that, uh, whenever never realized that Carla aka
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Carla realized that she left her doll behind in the
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: hotel room. She was actually more upset about the doll
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: being left behind than she was about this human being. Yes,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: this person being murdered in the room, but obviously they couldn't,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: you know, go back and get it. So that's how
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: the doll ended up on the bed. So in the end,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: police are now realizing that this was not some sort
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: of a cult ritualistic satanic killing. This just happened to
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: be a bunch of things that happened all in this
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: hotel room by just coincidence that made it look like
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: a Satanic killing, and it wasn't at all. It was
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: just the guy being bored putting the the pages of
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: the Bible on the wall, the girl accidentally forgetting her
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: doll that she loved back in the bed, and then
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: so it all just looked like this, but it actually
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with Satanism or anything like that.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: And they were a Gothic so that did kind of
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: add to stereotype. So Ben said that after they left
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: the hotel room, they head back to the French quarter
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: and then they just went their separate, separate ways. They
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: never talked again. He never knew their real names, and
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: he actually went back to his apartment and he was terrified.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: He he thought, oh my god, because that was Ben's
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: real name, Benjamin, you know, they knew his real name.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: He's like, people are gonna come kill me.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: He didn't know who they were, but yeah, he was worried.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: These are crazy people, like they could come back.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: He wasn't worried. The other guy was worried.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Which gun shut ups?
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Who's on first?
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, he was not. Never worried. He
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: was very worried. It should change her name to him,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: never to very, because Ben was very worried that these
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: people were going to confine him and do the same
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: thing to him, because this was absolutely insane to him.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Police in Florida and Louisianne are concerned about tracking down
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: mister Worry. He was last seen in Bradenton, Florida, so
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: they blast his picture all over the area and tell
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: everyone that he's had danger to society. He's on the.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Run, nothing to lose. He got several worries.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, several.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: You really missed a lot of jokes during this.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: I know this could have been our whole details thing
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: during with Worry. Within just a few hours of sending
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: that notice out, they receive a call from a police
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: station in Ruskin, Florida. They were searching for They were
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: searching for a suspect in a home invasion robbery. The
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: suspect was related to the homeowner and it was his
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: mother's home. She was able to give police a name.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: It was Chris Lane. He was a white male that
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: matched the description Carla gave police. They now have a name,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: but they have no clue where Chris is hiding out.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were able to really quickly match these
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: two up because Chris was actually a worry. Was extremely tall.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: He was like six five six seven, I mean it
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: was it was a lot. You know, it wasn't in
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: the normal height range of a person. So if you've
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: got a six' five suspect that is thin and you know,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: matches it's, Yes they're, like, okay, uh we don't have
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: too many of. These, yeah SO i think this might.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Be a hot.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Topic, yes he looks like he shops at he. Looked,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: no actually he looks like he shoplifts at. Optomic it
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the money to actually purchase at the. Register
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: so about we about a week passes by and police
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: receive a tip from a so they don't know where he's.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: At they're still looking For. CHRIS a childhood friend Of
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: chris's comes. In he tells him he, say, HEY i
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: just Saw chris at the Old denny's and if they
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: would like to catch, him this is their. Chance so
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: it was a childhood friend obviously not a current. Friend
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: they were, like, YEAH i knew this weirdo and WHEN
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: i was a. Kid here he.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Is there an all?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Star, yes and he walked out on the. Check, NO
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: i don't, know but. Probably so police head straight to
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: the restaurant and Arrest chris as he leaves the, restaurant
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: And chris's last bragging rights were, LIKE i knew they
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: were out there waiting for.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: ME i JUST i just wanted to finish my moon Over. Miamis.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah so they bring him to the police station to interview,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: him and he has a different, story of, course than
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: the other. Two he claims to have drank three bottles
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: of champagne and then he just fell asleep on the
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: couch in that hotel. Room the last thing he remembers
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: before falling asleep was Seeing sean And ben And Never
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: never in the hot. Tub, well he gets awoken suddenly
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: By ben saying we gotta. Go That never Beat sean
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: over the head with the champagne. Bottle, yeah he. Said
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: he also remembers Seeing never playing with the blood on
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the man's face after she had killed. Him now he
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: said he had nothing to do with the, murder and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: police are just not believing this story since they have
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: two other you, know the other two people that were.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: There both of them said basically the same exact. Story
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: so And ben wasn't like close To, Carla SO i
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: don't know where they would have corroborated, this, yeah this
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: story or anything like, that and being, like we're gonna
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: frame you Know chris over. Here Worry chris. Worry. Yes so,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: anyway so, they're LIKE i, said they're not believing. This
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: they believe That chris was the one that perpetrated the. Murder,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: however they do not believe That carla was completely, innocent
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: as she was the. One they do believe she actually
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: was cheering on this, attack even though she claimed she.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Wasn't they do believe The ben guy's. Story and it
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: just seems kind of like on pace for, her you,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: know to be doing.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: This doesn't seem like it was at a character for
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: her to be cheering on such a. Thing.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so now that they've got all of their, people,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Yes ben quickly turns on carl And chris and takes
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: a plea deal to serve just four years in prison
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: as an accessory to murder in exchange for his testimony
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: against the other. Two, now In august two thousand and,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Five Carla fry goes on trial for murder. Defense this is.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Terrible the defense was able to convince the jury That
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: carla was a, victim, saying you, know she was probably
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: victimized By. Chris he was this terrible.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Peril you wouldn't even tell her his real.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Name, yeah he was this abusive, boyfriend and that she
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: was just basically pushed into this situation and it was
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: All chris's. Fault so the jury came back with a
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: lesser charge of negligent homicide and in the, end she
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: was only sentenced to five years in. Prison On may,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: twelfth two thousand and, Six Chris lane decided to go
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: ahead and take a plea deal after he saw, that you,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Know carla didn't get off with, nothing and he was
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: definitely gonna get the.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Max i'm, sure, Well carla went to trial like right
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: before Her Hurricane katrina had.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Too, Yes i've heard that from somebody who was, that Maybe.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: STUART i heard she went to trial just Before Hurricane,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: rita which was pretty terrible as, Well. Stu, okay, anyways
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: what do you want to say About Hurricane. KATRINA i
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: wonder where she was. Though if She i'm guessing she got.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Moved she would have been moved because she would have
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: been put in jail right there, locally until she got moved.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: To a prison.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Facility, yeah Like angola or something like.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: THAT i don't think they have women In.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Angola oh they do have the rodeo, though which we've spoken,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: about which we have not gone to know we have.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Not So Chris, lane, he like we, said he decides
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: to take that plea deal after he sees How carla
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: fared over. There he pleaded guilty to murder and was
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: sentenced to forty five years in. Prison, Chris, However stu
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: died in prison On march, first twenty twenty, three when
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: he was found hanging in his. Cell he had taken
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: his own, life, now which is pretty hard to hang
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: yourself when you're like six five sixty.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: SEVEN i, know, right she.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Can like he's a terrible. Person so we can laugh about.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah i'm pretty sure we.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Can. LIE i think we can laugh about. It if,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Not alice will definitely let us.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Know, Oh alice making another scene in our podcast.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: Anyway so that's what's going. On two of them are free.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: CATS i don't know what's going on with.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: Her chris is.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Dead, Yeah Poor shawn was just trying to like live
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: his best.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: Life Poor ben was just bored to tears and he's, Like,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: OKAY i Guess i'll go with. You it's not.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: Poor, ben come, on he did he just was.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: There he was just. There, no BUT i can't believe
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: he got four years for.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: That when it comes down to. It THE i Know
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: carla should have got more time is what she should
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: have does BECAUSE i do not believe she was just
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: some like innocent bystander just looking. Around what are you
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: looking at?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: Me can you keep?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Moving i'm, Sorry i'm. Here we got to get a better.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Setup we're still in the closet because it does sound,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Better so we are in the. Closet but we got
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: to get a better setup because we're having a hold
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: of our microphones on the stand and then SOMETIMES i touch.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: It Oh, god talking with your. HANDS i, Know i'm.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: STOP i gotta. Stop, Okay i'm gonna stop. Talking what.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Is? That what The italian talk with their? Hands even Dirt?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Jay is? That? Sure?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Stop just, Stop, chase give me a. Muff that's Not.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Italian it is a.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Muffatta, yes The, italians Like, tomato came up with some.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: MUFAs all, Right so that's our case for this, evening
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: or for this. Week it is the evening right now for.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Us this was super, long Stew.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: You made it super. Long, WELL i do have the,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: tricks your little side stories.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: And what we didn't even get into get into Our
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: New orleans uh stories Do we didn't even get into.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: It the last. One we went To noran and we were,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: like we're never coming back here. Again this was too.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Bad this was.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: Rough we're so hungover after we were thinking about stopping
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: at one of those those hotels like twenty minutes.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Outside it's like we're gonna have to Start.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah it was only a two hour drive, home
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: but we. Can't we should have just got this hotel
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: room another night and stayed Another but.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: We were too embarrassed to stay at that hotel. Again
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: why Because STUART i WAS i was embarrassed at that.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Bar we had to go back to That you made
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: me go in and get your.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Phone well there was, that but the hotel and we
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: didn't do anything stupid.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: There, Okay i'm just going to tell you real. Quickly
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: so my mom had just passed.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Away that's not even the. Story that was the next.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Time, no this was this, Time, oh the one when.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Your mom passed. Away we ended up down there for.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Decadence, no that's the one where we had to go
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: back and get your. Phone yes it Was, stuart don't, no, stop.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: You don't know what you're talking.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: About, no don't. Know we stayed at that one nice hotel.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Room we booked it and we didn't have any. Clues,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: yes we didn't know we were there for.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Decadence that was the same.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: One, yes we didn't know we were there for. Decadence
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: so we booked it last, minute souse my mom had passed.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: AWAY i was like really upset and. Everything i'm, LIKE
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: i need to get out of. Here we need to
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: go do. Something so it was about a month. Later
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: we booked the room last minute in that real nice
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: hotel room that it's real pretty and, stufftel the boutique,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: hotel and it was like a last minute splurge and
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: things like. That well we got so BECAUSE i remember
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: specifically being super drunk and talking to that guy that
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: that little gay guy who was in that head to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: toe a bright pink tiger glitter.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Suit in a f. Suit.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah so we were talking to me in this bar
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: and then all of a SUDDEN i was approached and
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: they were, like your husband is. Sleeping your husband is
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: sleeping on the.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Court i'm a, yeah it was a chest fraser.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: In the, Kitchen, like what's. It i'm staring at this
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: guy in this like bright pink glitter tiger, Suit LIKE
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: i gotta go figure it. Out SO i go back
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: there in the Back stew's lay on the chest. FREEZER
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: i get. Him so then we we Call.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: It took us three ubers to get home because we
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: kept not going to the.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Location cost us a little bit of.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: MONEY i was, like oh my, god we're gonna get
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: banned From uber, anyways, thankfully, whoever you, know people that
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: drive In New orleans probably used to, this so they just,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: like all just click my money and move. On we
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: back to the hotel, room super. Hungover the next, morning
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: we can't find his, Phone steve's, phone so then we're, like,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: okay it's probably at.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: That that go out of my, pocket.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Sleep on the.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Cooler so then.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: We drive over because we're leaving town that morning or,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: whatever and we drive over we're so, hungover just like
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: wanting to.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: DIE i know HOW i found this place, AGAIN i.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Don't, either but WE i think we traced the.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Uber, yes we traced.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: The uber to find the bar we were. At so
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: we drive around and she was, LIKE i can't go.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: In this is too. Embarrassing so THEN i have to go.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: In i'm, like, hey do you have a phone in?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Here because they, anyways they had actually found the. Phone
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: it was behind the. Cooler we got the, phone and
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: then like fifteen minutes on the, ROAD i was really
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: thinking about just stopping at.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: That you, KNOW i was thinking about bread and all.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: There that was.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Terrible that was the last TIME i went To New.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Orleans i'm never doing that. Again that was just. Miserable
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: but it's fun story for you guys to, hear you,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: know it's a fun story to. Tell now we. Survived
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: that was probably that was eight years.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: AGO i, guess, YES i.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that's how long it's been, since because THEN covid
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: rolled around and then, yeah then we had children and
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: couldn't come, back and.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Then we stop the. Debauchery, yep M m, Anyway so
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: that's The New orleans, Story, Okay stu do you have
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: a y'all Need?
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: JESUS i always Have. Jesus the story was sent in
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: to me by someone THAT i have carnal knowledge. Of
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: after that relations with.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Oh you, know after that, story we just TOLD i
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: think that we might Need. Jesus ALTHOUGH i actually gave
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: we actually left Two dy's Baby jesus. Therapist, yeah he
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: has Baby, jesus and someone gave us on the. Cruise
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: somehow they stopped giving out ducks thus cruise and they
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: started giving Out. JESUS i don't know what.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Happened, well they gave out ducks that are about the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: size of a, Peanut.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Yes choking. Hazards and then they gave out These, jesuses
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: these little Tiny, jesuses and they'd hand them the, kids,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: yes and Baby. Jesus, anyways they hand them the kids
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: And i'm, like this is a choking. Hazard i'm gonna
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: have to pray To jesus so that the kid don't
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: choke to.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Death, yeah they're kind of.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Small, yeah and after, anyways after my growing up, SITUATION
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: i don't appreciate.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Did you have to go hand out Baby.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Jesus, no we weren't at that. Level but let me
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: tell you what IF i was a kid today with
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: my dad and we could afford to go on a,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: cruise we'd be handing out Baby. Jesus, yes not THAT
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: i don't Like. JESUS i don't want anybody get me
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: wrong about. That it's JUST i had a bit of
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: a not the best situation with that whole going to extreme,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: eames you.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Know driving to a revival In. Florida, yes, yes like
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: a true detective.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Thing, yes like a true detective.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Thing first season all, right, yeah first season really?
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Good, yep first season is. Terrible definitely watch.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: It couple arrested for stealing fire.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Hydrant police say this is a special y'all Need jesus
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: THAT i, Found.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: So you know it's Not.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Florida it's not Uh, no it's Not.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: Florida this comes to us from WL x By Lee
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: peck And Emily Van Deret, Mobile. Alabama two people In
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: alabama are facing MULTIPLE cara multiple charges after stealing a fire,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: hydrant according to Police. Mobile Police department said officers received
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: a call shortly before five thirty. Am thirty am this
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: is when crimes, HAPPEN i Guess thursday about people stealing
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: a fire hydrant in front of a region's. Bank this
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: is coming to us From march, tenth twenty twenty, three
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: by the, WAY. Yep responding officers noticed the suspect vehicle
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: and conducted a traffic. Stop Kara police said that they
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: found the fire hydrant in the, truck along with a
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: firearm and drugs and drug.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: PARAPHERNALIA i believe possibly.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Yes police arrested forty three forty three year Old Keith
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: haley and a thirty nine year Old Carla.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Fry we Coverle circle. People Carla fry got off with
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: this murder and is now stealing fire hydrants in twenty twenty.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Three BUT i ALSO i was just thinking about. It
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: that was nine DAYS i think he was he did
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: he kill himself In march or? MAY i think it
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Was march, first so this was nine. Days maybe this
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: was a reaction.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: To that him off in. Himself i'm GONNA i gotta
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: go steal a fire hydrant.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah why do you go to A.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: I guess you turn it in for scrap. Metal you
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: get like two cents of.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: It Was march. First this was nine days After worry
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: killed himself in.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Prison so never was worrying.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: Yep never was, worrying but, yeah can you believe that
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: she basically got away with? Murder they should have just locked.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Up she obviously didn't do anything good with her. Life
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: she's out here still in fire. HYDRANTS i was in
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: shock WHEN i looked this.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Up, Anyway haley is charged with first degree theft of
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: services and carrying a concealed. Weapon jail records show Fry
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Or never is charged with first degree theft of, property
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: possession of a controlled, substance and project possession of drug. Paraphernalia.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: YEAH i could never Find. NEVER i could never never
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: find what happened With never in her. Charges But i'm
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: guessing she probably pled down to something, lesser just like
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: she did yes when she killed that, person or egged
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: on the person that killed that.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Person, yes they both had bond. Herrings on The, friday
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: officials estimated the Cost tory place the pyr argrant to
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: be at least fifteen hundred.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Dollars really, wow.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: They could have probably got twenty bucks in scrap metal for,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: that SO i.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Guess that's why they were stealing. IT i just don't
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: feel like that's an efficient thing to. DO i guess
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: they were probably on drugs Doing she does nonsense at
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: five thirty.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: Am twenty dollars worth of crack is twenty dollars worth of. Crack,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: yeah if you steal a fire, hydrant that's like five.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Dicks you ain't got to suck to get.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: That, okay we're gonna hang this up right. Now that's
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: your full. Circle we had the, story we had The
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: Yale jesus that tied it all. In we got a
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: doozy next week as. Well we got a doozy for you. Guys,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: okay you know What i'm talking, about do, yeah the serial.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Killer and then we found this the second story that we're, like,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: whoa this is insane, Anyway so we got a doozy
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: forty next. Week but all, right, well we thank you
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: all for. Listening join The. Patreot we'll be Doing shoot
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: The poop With karen stew On. Monday we'll talk about
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: swim Lessons, passibly and we're gonna talk About Brian. Coburger
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk About relentless documentary and whatever else happens
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: between now and, then we're gonna talk about. It and
• 1:16:12
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• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: have gone on long enough and embarrassed ourselves enough for.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Today So, stuart you're the one that's fell asleep on
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: a cooler in the back of a.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Restaurant, OKAY i drank like half a bottle Of, jameson.
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  Speaker 1: Possibly not half half of like the, handle not for
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: the normal.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Bottle that was a lot Of. Jameson, yes all.
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  Speaker 1: Right well we will see you next. Time buy everyone say.
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