Latest / How To Protect The Ocean / Ocean Startups Are Changing Conservation Faster Than Science Alone
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- 0:00The next breakthrough in ocean
- 0:01conservation might not
- 0:02come from a university.
- 0:04It might come from a startup. Not because
- 0:07science isn't important,
- 0:08because startups are built to
- 0:10take ideas and actually put them into the
- 0:13real world. And right now,
- 0:15that's the part we're missing.
- 0:17This is the How to Protect the Ocean
- 0:18podcast where we break down ocean
- 0:20science, policy, and
- 0:22solutions so that you can actually
- 0:23understand what's working
- 0:25and how to be a part of it. So
- 0:27hit that follow button right now so you
- 0:29don't miss tomorrow's
- 0:30episode. We're covering
- 0:31ocean businesses, businesses that are out
- 0:33to scale solutions for
- 0:35the ocean all week. At the
- 0:36end of the week on Friday, we have an
- 0:38interview with EarthX CEO
- 0:40Peter Semmick talking about the
- 0:42EarthX conference where you're going to
- 0:43find a lot of ocean
- 0:44startups, a lot of ocean businesses
- 0:46that are already in practice that are
- 0:47looking to find solutions.
- 0:49So check it out on Friday and
- 0:51don't forget to follow so you don't miss
- 0:53any other episode. For
- 0:56decades, ocean conservation
- 0:57has been driven by governments, by NGOs,
- 0:59by universities, and
- 1:00those institutions are very
- 1:02critical to the process. They give a
- 1:04science, they shape policy, but they are
- 1:07not built for speed.
- 1:09They are built for accuracy, and that
- 1:11creates a gap because
- 1:13discovering a solution is very
- 1:16different to scaling one for protection.
- 1:19That's where startups come in. They take
- 1:21ideas and ask a different question.
- 1:24Can this work in the real world and can
- 1:26it scale? If you're new to the show and
- 1:28you want to understand
- 1:29how ocean solutions actually scale, then
- 1:32make sure that you follow how
- 1:33to protect the ocean podcast
- 1:35so you don't miss any of the future
- 1:36episodes. So hit that follow button right
- 1:38now. All right, let's take
- 1:40coral Vita for an example. Traditionally,
- 1:43coral restoration
- 1:43happens underwater. It's slow,
- 1:46it's expensive, and it struggles to keep
- 1:48up with warming oceans. Coral Vita
- 1:51changed the model. They grow
- 1:53corals on land and in controlled
- 1:55environments. That allows them to grow
- 1:58corals 50 times faster,
- 1:59select heat tolerant corals, and scale
- 2:01production far beyond traditional
- 2:03methods. Then they transplant
- 2:05those corals back onto reefs. But here's
- 2:08where it really matters. They built a
- 2:10business. They partner
- 2:12with tourism operators
- 2:13who depend on the reefs, governments
- 2:15protecting coastlines, and insurance
- 2:17companies that recognize
- 2:18reefs reduce storm damage, which I've
- 2:21talked about so many times
- 2:22on this podcast. This turns
- 2:24coral restoration into something that can
- 2:27scale globally, not just one project.
- 2:30It's an actual service.
- 2:32Let's talk carbon removal in the ocean.
- 2:34There's a company called Running Tide.
- 2:36They're working on
- 2:37ocean-based carbon removal.
- 2:39The idea? Grow kelp that absorbs carbon.
- 2:42Then sink it deep in the ocean, locking
- 2:45that carbon away long term.
- 2:47This falls under ocean carbon dioxide
- 2:49removal. And according to the IPCC, we
- 2:52likely need carbon
- 2:53removal to meet climate targets.
- 2:55But this approach is controversial.
- 2:58Because the ocean is complex, we don't
- 3:00fully understand the
- 3:02long term impact. Still,
- 3:05it's getting funded because it fits into
- 3:07carbon markets. And when
- 3:09something fits and when something
- 3:10connects to markets, it has a chance to
- 3:13scale. Now, I'm not saying
- 3:15that this is going to work. I'm
- 3:16not saying that this is probably good for
- 3:17the ocean. It may not be,
- 3:19but at least we're developing
- 3:20these ideas. If there were pilot studies
- 3:22that were stuck in academia this entire
- 3:24time, a lot of these
- 3:25companies may not be able to get this
- 3:27going and find out if it actually works
- 3:28or if it doesn't work. Now, of course,
- 3:30there's always advantages and
- 3:31disadvantages to this approach and I
- 3:33fully understand those,
- 3:34but this is just one idea
- 3:36where we can really think about, hey,
- 3:37does actually this carbon sinking and
- 3:40carbon removal actually work when we
- 3:42think about it at this scale and at this
- 3:44with this ability to use kelp to do that.
- 3:47Think about the video that I
- 3:48put up this week on Sargasm
- 3:50that probably came out today as you're
- 3:52going to listen to this. Sargasm is an
- 3:55algae that grows really big.
- 3:59It just basically suppresses beaches and
- 4:01it just smothers beaches in
- 4:02high tourist areas. It stinks.
- 4:05People don't like it. It can affect
- 4:06people with breathing problems and it
- 4:08takes a long time to remove and is hard
- 4:09to inexpensive to remove.
- 4:11Imagine being able to sink something like
- 4:12Sargasm to be able to remove carbon.
- 4:15That's something that's a key
- 4:17identifier in carbon removal. Whether it
- 4:19will work or not, whether
- 4:20it's good for the ocean or not,
- 4:21time will tell and these experiments with
- 4:23businesses as partnerships will be able
- 4:26to help. Startups bring something
- 4:27conservation has struggled with.
- 4:30Speed. They test faster. They adapt
- 4:32faster and they scale faster. They don't
- 4:35necessarily wait till
- 4:37you have peer reviewed publications that
- 4:38are done two years down the road that are
- 4:40published two years down the road.
- 4:42They want to know six months from now
- 4:43whether this idea will work. If it
- 4:45doesn't, they're going
- 4:45to move on. If it works,
- 4:46they're going to move forward. If it's
- 4:47good for the ocean, they might move
- 4:49forward. If it's bad for the ocean,
- 4:50they may move forward too. That's where
- 4:52we have to be careful with
- 4:52some of these startups. However,
- 4:54the point is they move fast and that
- 4:57matters because the ocean is changing
- 4:59fast. We are seeing
- 5:00marine heat waves, rapid
- 5:03biodiversity loss, overfishing pressures,
- 5:05increasing pollution,
- 5:07solutions that need to move as
- 5:10solutions need to move as quickly, just
- 5:12as quickly as these
- 5:13problems are hitting the ocean.
- 5:14And when the startups find something that
- 5:16works, they can expand
- 5:18globally in years, not decades.
- 5:21But let's be clear. Not every setup
- 5:23succeeds. Some fail,
- 5:26some over promise and some create
- 5:28unintended consequences. Like just think
- 5:30about anything that has to do with deep
- 5:32sea mining right now.
- 5:33There is a big push to do deep sea
- 5:35mining, but we have no
- 5:36idea the effects on the ocean.
- 5:38This is why science still matters and
- 5:40regulation still matters. This isn't
- 5:43about replacing traditional
- 5:44conservation. It's about complimenting it
- 5:46with speed, with funding and with a
- 5:49different mindset. Because right now
- 5:51we don't just need ideas.
- 5:53We need ideas that actually spread and we
- 5:56need to implement those
- 5:58ideas as quickly as possible.
- 6:00And that's the episode for today.
- 6:02If you like this type of information, you
- 6:04want to know more about businesses that
- 6:05find solutions and you
- 6:06have a business that has
- 6:07an ocean solution or you know of one that
- 6:09has a notion solution,
- 6:10let us know in the comments by going to
- 6:13speak up for blue dot com forward slash
- 6:14feedback that speak up for blue dot com
- 6:17forward slash feedback. I want to hear
- 6:18what you have to say either by voicemail
- 6:20or you can type it in.
- 6:21I would love to hear what you have to say
- 6:24because this is the
- 6:25start of a conversation
- 6:26and I would love for you to continue that
- 6:28with me and with others. And I
- 6:30know with podcasting on audio
- 6:31it's really difficult to do a comment. If
- 6:33you're on Spotify and you want to
- 6:34comment, please do so.
- 6:36But if you're not and you want to comment
- 6:38and you want to have feedback, please go
- 6:40to speak up for blue dot
- 6:41com forward slash feedback
- 6:43because you know what the next big
- 6:45breakthrough may not be it
- 6:47may not come from a paper,
- 6:49but it might just come from a company
- 6:50trying to solve a problem
- 6:52at scale and I want to find what those
- 6:54those businesses are what that company is
- 6:57and I want to tell it I want to talk to
- 6:59them on the podcast at some point. So I
- 7:02want to thank you so much for joining me
- 7:03on today's episode of the
- 7:04how to protect the ocean
- 7:05podcast. I'm your host, Andrew Lew and
- 7:06have a great day. We'll talk to you next
- 7:08time and happy conservation.