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What's next for the PACKERS after MICAH PARSONS suffers a torn ACL? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  And now, ladies and gentlemen, he has been waiting.
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  We're very happy to have him on the first time on job in the
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  mouth. We are now talking to former
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  Expos, Cubs, Padres and Blue Jays catcher Michael Barrett.
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  Michael, what's up, buddy? Hey, nothing much thanks for
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  having me on the show, I appreciate it.
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  Absolutely, Mike. And obviously there's a lot to
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  get into it. And, and with the X Expos, I
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  mean, they're an organization that are no longer here.
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  And the Expos had a chance to possibly win a World Series that
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  year. They had just a tremendously
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  talented team. Vladimir Guerrero senior was
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  there. Pedro Martinez was there.
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  I mean, you guys were absolutely loaded.
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  I I mean, could you remember that time and, and tell us a
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  little bit about that particular team and how sensational that
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  team was? In 1994, the Expos did, in fact,
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  have the best record in baseball, and that's ultimately
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  LED what led me to going in the last, the last pick in the first
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  round. And on that team, Larry Walker,
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  Marquis Grissom, Kenny Hill, I mean, the list goes on.
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  Pedro Martinez, Kurt Reader, Felipe Alou at the helm, his son
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  Moises on the team, arguably one of the best teams in baseball
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  history, all playing together. And, you know, being from
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  Atlanta, you know, the Atlanta Braves were all of the hype for
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  me. And so, you know, I didn't hear
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  much, just saw random, you know, highlights of Braves versus
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  Expos. But you know, when I got drafted
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  and learned very quickly of the history of the Montreal Expos
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  and learned of the talent, top talented team that that, that
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  they had and, and all of the players that came with that, it
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  was a huge, huge honor. And to be able to finally get to
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  the big leagues later on in 1998 and have the opportunity to play
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  for Felipe Alou was just magical.
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  It was just an unbelievable honor and blessing.
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  You look at Netflix and Netflix has this expose documentary.
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  I watched all of it. I didn't know the insurance and
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  the outs of what happened until I got a chance to really
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  understand what was going on in the back end when they were
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  trying to find ownership and they didn't want to bring an
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  American owner. And then it was all about
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  bringing it, making sure that it stayed in Canada.
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  And then as soon as they, they transitioned, there was a fight
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  between who owns what and who's the leader of the, the, the
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  group of ownership. When that was going on, when,
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  when you saw what was going on and the fact that they fired a
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  fleet and, and all the the things that all the things that
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  transition after that, were you, were you surprised that all of
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  this just happened so fast and so quickly where the Expos had
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  to move all the way to Washington?
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  Yeah, all of that was shocking to me.
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  I watched the Netflix documentary and, you know, I had
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  no idea that a lot of that was going on as a player, you know,
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  they did a really good job of keeping that from us.
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  And, you know, I don't know how else we would have been able to
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  perform to know that all of those things were going on.
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  You know, as a player, like I said, we were blessed to have
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  great managers that were able to keep that from us and allow us
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  to play and continue to focus on the field.
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  We, we, we knew as players and being a part of the union that
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  there was there was a chance that there could be contraction,
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  that there was a chance of relocation.
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  We had members of our team that were out on a exploration for
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  our next site in in the event that we were to relocate.
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  But for a while there, there was there was a short window of time
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  where we thought we were not going to have a job as members
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  of the Montreal Expos, that our team was going to be contracted
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  and that we didn't know what we were going to do.
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  We did, we did in fact go through that as players and that
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  was shared with us and, and to put that behind us and to be
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  able to and, and to try to focus was, was difficult at times.
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  You know, when you're thinking about, you know, losing your
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  job, it, it can be tough, you know, as you're playing.
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  But All in all, you know that that documentary that they put
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  on Netflix 90, I'd say 90% of what was being said.
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  We had no idea, sorry. That's right.
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  No idea, Michael. What's up man?
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  What's going on? Another day in paradise in good
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  old Nebraska. You know that goes I I I just
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  got noticed that my son and them are coming over to play cards so
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  nice. No, it was just it's something
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  obviously I I was towards the tail end of your career, but it
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  was funny when I was looking you up and in your career and, and
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  to do what you did at the length of what you did, you faced over
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  700 pitchers in your career. You've had some really good
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  numbers against some really, really good dudes.
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  This happened to be in the Hall of Fame.
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  What was there one dude that you, as I look at your numbers
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  and see the success you had against certain guys and the
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  numbers sometimes speak of themselves, but was there one
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  dude And I always, I always love this question.
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  Was there one dude that you just always felt comfortable in the
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  box? And there was a one dude where
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  you're just like, I can't figure him out.
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  I don't, I don't know what to do here.
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  Like he could throw a water. Missed it?
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  No, that's really cool that you're able to pull those stats
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  up. I'd love to hear more about him.
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  I, I try to look up every once in a while, you know, Greg
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  Maddox will piss me off and I'll be like I owned him.
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  I'm going to look him up. 343 off Greg Maddox.
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  In 13. Thank you yeah, yeah.
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  And I would barely call that owning him because they probably
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  were all little singles. Or he would argue that 343 isn't
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  a lot of damage there, that I probably didn't score more runs
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  and. But also you got to give
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  yourself credit because that was the most at bat you had against
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  one player. Oh really?
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  I had no idea. And, you know, he always gives
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  me a hard time that he had more stolen bases than me.
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  So I can't, I can't really brag about too much against him.
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  He always has something to come back at me with.
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  But yeah, you know, I think I think I was a a good ball
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  hitter. You know, I wasn't a bad ball
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  hitter like Vladimir. If the guy was in the zone, I
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  was going to have a better chance of success.
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  I really struggled with guys that were erratic or were, you
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  know, just kind of wild, you know, but could find the zone
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  occasionally, you know, and those guys gave me fits.
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  There were guys that absolutely owned me and I, Brad Penny, for
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  example, I have no idea why he owned me so bad.
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  I mean, I square balls up, but I mean, they would just go right
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  at people and he's probably sitting at home.
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  I'm hoping that he's listening to this and laughing because,
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  you know, it's one of those things as a player, you know,
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  you know, you know deep down that you know when somebody just
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  has your number. And for the longest time, Tom
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  Glavin. One for 20 off him, by the way.
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  Off Brad Penny. Yeah, yeah.
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  I swear, I, I'm, I, I kid you not, I would hit line drives
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  right at people when I did hit them hard.
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  And I'd be like, it just wasn't meant to be.
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  I just wasn't meant to ever get more than one hit off of Brad
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  Penny, I guess. So you were one of the catchers
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  that actually I found this out play catcher and third base.
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  Let's how soon you see catcher and first base, but catcher
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  third base, a very rare combination.
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  Like what was that kind of adjustment like?
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  Yeah, it was crazy. You know, early on I was told,
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  and I don't know if this is true, I was told that there were
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  only after 1999. Now, I know Brandon Hinge was a
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  great player and he was doing the same thing in Detroit, the
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  same time I was in Montreal doing the third base catcher.
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  But I was told in 1999 that there were only two other
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  players in the history of the game to play third and to catch
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  and their rookie season as much as I did, and that was Joe Torre
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  and Bobby Cox. Now, I don't know if that's true
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  now, that was 1999 when they told me that.
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  But I always thought of myself as among a great set of pass,
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  you know, like a great cast of guys that had done that in the
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  past and thought of myself and somebody that that had had to do
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  whatever he had to do to survive early on.
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  We are talking to former Expos, Cubs, Padres and Blue Jays
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  catcher Michael Barrett. No, Michael, the Blue Jays have
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  never had such an opportunity to win a World Series since.
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  I remember Joe Carter, 93. I think it was 9394.
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  They had a chance this year. They were up.
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  They were against the deferred Dodgers and everybody thought
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  that they were going to pull away.
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  They have some good young pitching and they timely
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  hitting. Vladimir Guerrero junior became
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  a superstar right in front of her eyes in the playoffs.
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  What stood out to you from the 9394 World Series champion Blue
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  Jays to this team? Do you see any comparison
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  between both of them? Yeah, it's a great question.
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  I, you know, I fell in love. I mean, Vladdy Junior was in our
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  clubhouse. I mean, like he was a part of
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  our family, you know, I had a chance to watch him.
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  But as a player, it's different, right?
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  I can look at him as a player and, and separate the difference
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  between him being in our clubhouse as a family member
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  versus a player. And I I agree with you this
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  World Series, his showing and what he did as a player.
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  Well, definitely, I will never forget the the mark he made this
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  series. It's a shame that he didn't come
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  a come out as the winner of that series.
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  But in so many ways he did an amazing job, just an amazing
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  job. He really stood out to me as a
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  player and as a hitter more than anything against some top notch
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  pitchers. That was what was most
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  impressive is that when everybody else had all the
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  excuses in the world to not, you know, be the offensive threat
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  that they are, he showed up and just did a remark and and I'll
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  always stick with me. But I'll tell you this.
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  In addition to that, I I think Snyder did AI think the manager
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  Snyder did an unbelievable job all year long.
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  I love the attention that they they paid, the detail of playing
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  the smaller game throughout the season.
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  I love that they cut down on strikeouts as a team.
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  I love that they made that important.
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  I love that putting the ball in play became something of
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  importance and that people are talking about it again, that
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  gets me fired up as a baseball guy, that people are talking
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  about putting the ball in play and the portents and putting the
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  ball in play with two strikes. And the Blue Jays are a great
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  example of a team that did that. Michael, do you like when, when
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  you look at the state of the game and, and kind of where the
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  direction that it's going in and, and how we've seen it
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  change? And in a lot of ways, I think
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  in, in good, in a lot of ways where I think necessarily wasn't
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  enough or it was maybe too much in, in the way that you see it.
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  What do you think the game's direction is?
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  Do you think it's it's for the positive in more ways than it is
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  in the negative right now? Yeah, another great question.
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  So I have 8:00 kids, blended family, but I have 8:00 kids and
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  I I constantly, yeah, thank you. I'm constantly in the schools
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  helping with different things. And this is a this is a this is
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  a real truth, OK. And baseball fans need to know
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  this. I'm in Atlanta, just outside of
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  Atlanta, Big Braves country, right?
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  Braves country. Acunia couldn't be more popular.
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  It's exciting for me to see that.
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  It's exciting to see kids wearing Acunia like I wore Del
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  Murphy shirts. I love it, Absolutely love it.
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  Here's the thing that you'd be surprised.
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  A lot of people may not be surprised to hear about in my
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  hometown, you go to my local elementary school where my kids
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  go, you will see as many Savannah banana shirts as you
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  see Acuna shirts. OK, we've we've got to stop and
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  think about that for a second as baseball fans.
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  OK, Now as great as that is, because if you're a baseball nut
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  like me, you don't care. You just want kids in a stadium
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  somewhere. Watch and learn a baseball.
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  Yeah, it's just learning how to throw strikes over the plate.
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  I don't care if it's standing on top of your head, just learn to
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  throw the ball over the plate. The Bananas are teaching kids
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  how to do that and do that, having fun at the same time, you
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  know? So like, there's some
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  competition that's happening now with MLB.
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  Some of that's because of some decisions that we've made as
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  players, some decisions that we've made as baseball people,
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  right? So like we have to live with
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  that. And if we're not careful, we're
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  going to lose a lot of fans. I had a one last thing and I'll
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  let you guys take it and run with it how you want.
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  I had a 17 you baseball team that I was the head coach of a
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  few years ago, and one day it hit me.
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  I thought, I thought, I thought to myself, you know what, I'm,
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  I'm just going to see what these guys do.
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  You know, clearly I'm at the elementary schools.
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  The impact that the Savannah bananas they're having, we now
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  have more Savannah banana shirts than we have Acuna shirts, which
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  is unimaginable to me, but at the same time, OK, that's great,
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  whatever. So my 17 new team, I said, OK,
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  guys, we're going to have a Savannah Savannah banana tryout
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  day just for fun. This was like a year and a half
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  ago. We're going to do a Savannah
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  Banana tryout workout. And I kid you not, when I
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  brought that up, kids started getting dirty again.
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  They started laying out, they started diving for balls, doing
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  360, doing things that I never imagined in a million years that
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  they could ever do. And it's because it's because of
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  the culture that we are building, if that makes sense.
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  It's a, it's a cultural thing. And the kids are going to
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  gravitate toward a culture that's more fun.
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  Why wouldn't they? So I want to ask about one of
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  your teammates, that guy that was a fun personality and when
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  he was with the Yankees and the Mets.
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  But you play with him on the Expo.
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  That is Bartolo Cologne. You have a good Bartolo Cologne
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  story. Oh the best Bartolo Cologne
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  story. So Bartolo, he won 10 games in
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  the American League and got traded to us.
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  He was maybe 2 pitchers that have ever done that and I had
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  the opportunity to catch him that year and that was amazing.
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  We are talking to former Expos Cubs, Padres and Blue Jays
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  catcher Michael Barrett. I remember Mike with the Expos.
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  I remember him very, very well. And and it's crazy because I got
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  a chance to check out the Expos documentary on Netflix and it's
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  a great, very well put documentary.
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  And you got a chance to see all the great players that played
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  for those Expos teams and at the Expos.
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  If you look at where the Expos transitioned from Washington,
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  all the players that got traded, I mean Wetland went to the
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  Yankees and won a World Series with the Yankees in in 959696
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  when they won the first World Series title with the young
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  Derek Jeter at Wetland was a part of that expose to Dawson,
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  Pedro Martinez. I remembered all those players
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  and Vladimir Guerrero was the one that really stuck out to me
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  and Bartolo Cologne was a part of that team.
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  Randy Johnson. Was on that squad, that squad.
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  How many Hall of Farmers were a part of that Expose team?
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  I mean, it's it's ridiculous. Could you imagine if those
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  Expose team stayed together and how many championships they
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  would have won with all the players in the Pedro Martinez
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  was a baby when he at the tail end of the Expo's existence.
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  And we saw what he did with the Boston Red Sox and his
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  achievements as one of the best power pitchers, right-handed
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  power pitchers we've ever seen. So by the way, he's back.
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  We are talking to former Expos Cubs, Padres Blue Jays catcher
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  Michael Barrett. Mike you you look at the league
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  now and we're looking at these these stars and you played for
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  the Padres. They've got a bunch of young
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  stars, the Cubs who have a bunch of young stars and then
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  obviously, obviously the Blue Jays.
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  We all know who their young stars are.
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  Is there a particular team that you see up and coming with some
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  of the young talent that they have?
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  We all know the Pirates always have young talent and they trade
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  them away as there's one player that's not very happy over there
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  who wants to be a Yankee. Is there a particular team right
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  now that really stands out to you with the young talent that
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  they have that you could you could see being a dynasty in the
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  future or a multi championship type of team in the future?
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  Yeah, right. Now, I really like what the
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  Orioles, like I said earlier, I love what they're doing, a
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  chance to meet a lot of their minor league staff a few years
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  ago. And and I just just listening to
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  what they're they're doing and watching some of the things and
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  love what the Orioles are doing. I think that they have a chance
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  to really, I know that they kind of, I don't know, it's kind of
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  like a flip the coin or like 180 did a 180 kind of took a few
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  steps back, but I think they'll turn it back around here pretty
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  soon. I think the polar bear is a huge
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  pick up. I think some of that veteran
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  leadership for some of those young players is big.
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  So I think I think watch some of those moves, you know, I think
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  that's going to tell you what what the the experts are
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  thinking. Like, you know, when when Sonny
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  Gray goes to the Red Sox, I believe that was a trade that
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  just went through. You know, it's like they start
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  bringing in some of these veterans that to help some of
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  these younger players. I think I think those are moves
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  that are that are precise, that are done precisely for the
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  reasons that we're talking about building dynasties, you know?
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  Yeah, you. Mentioned and, and you mentioned
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  the polar bear and you look at the Mets and a lot of, a lot of
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  Met fans are really upset about obviously what David Stearns has
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  done and, and the organization look like they were up to win a
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  championship. They, they spent the money for
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  Soto. They made all these moves.
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  Lindor's there. They have all this young or
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  superstar talent over there. And then in the offseason they
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  have Edwin Diaz. They had a chance to extend him.
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  They let him go to the Dodgers if they, I believe, gave him at
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  least maybe 7 or $8 million more, maybe stays a Met.
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  And then they didn't really even give an offer to Pete Alonso.
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  They let Pete Alonso practically go.
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  They had no really no thought in their minds to giving Pete
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  Alonso an extension because there was nothing there.
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  And he goes, everybody thought he was going to get $200
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  million. Instead he takes what, what,
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  five $6 million more than Schwarber and he goes over there
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  to the Orioles, to a team that actually wanted them.
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  Are you surprised that the New York Mets and Steve Cohen, who
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  spent billions already over a billion dollars on players, just
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  let a home grown player like that of that magnitude away and
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  then let Edwin Diaz? The one weakness the Dodgers
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  have had over the last two seasons is relief pitching and
• 20:50
  they let the best relief pitcher go to the Dodgers and pretty
• 20:53
  much say here you go, Dodgers win another one.
• 20:55
  Are are you surprised that the Mets obviously didn't step in
• 20:59
  and do anything to save or keep these players there?
• 21:02
  Yeah, I think. You know, they have such a, a, a
• 21:05
  like closer, you know, closer tabs on every little thing that
• 21:12
  these players do or like, like, you know, that we did as
• 21:16
  players. It's like they know every little
• 21:18
  thing about us. They know what we wake up and
• 21:21
  what we like to eat, what we don't like to eat.
• 21:23
  I know it was difficult for Mets fans and rightfully so, but I
• 21:27
  got to imagine that that the Mets have a plan to fill those
• 21:31
  gaps. They have to.
• 21:33
  And if it's not in the next year, it's going to be years to
• 21:37
  come. You know, I think, and I'm just
• 21:40
  being honest here, being trans, like completely transparent with
• 21:43
  you guys. Like the biggest thing for me is
• 21:45
  like people, they've been talking about a work stoppage.
• 21:48
  They've been talking about a bunch of stuff, which also may
• 21:52
  have an effect on why these guys aren't signing.
• 21:55
  And I don't mean to to scare people, but that's the reality
• 21:57
  is these are things, these are real conversations.
• 22:01
  You know, why would any owner of any club want to spend that much
• 22:05
  money if there's a work stoppage, you know, like that
• 22:09
  what you know, like that's baseball that's talking.
• 22:12
  That's not us talking. That's baseball fans in general.
• 22:15
  That's every hot stove in America is talking right now,
• 22:18
  work stoppage or not. Well, that that could have an
• 22:20
  effect on whether or not you spend $150 million, two $100
• 22:24
  million, I don't know. But I would say this, that it,
• 22:28
  that it's, it's hard to see those guys leave the New York
• 22:31
  Mets organization. I'm a big Juan Soto fan.
• 22:34
  Would love to see Juan Soto win a World Series with New York
• 22:36
  Mets very, very soon. Is it going to happen without
• 22:40
  those guys? I don't.
• 22:41
  I've seen crazier things. We've seen crazier things.
• 22:45
  You know, the Mets could pull it off probably without those guys.
• 22:50
  I don't know. It would be nice.
• 22:51
  It would have been nice to see those guys in on the action and
• 22:54
  in on the fun. But, you know, the Mets have
• 22:57
  something up their sleeve. They got something.
• 22:59
  But it's at the same time, you know, it's nice to see that the
• 23:02
  Dodgers are not stopping. They're going to keep rolling.
• 23:05
  They're going to keep investing. They don't care how many World
• 23:07
  Series they win. They're going to keep trying to
• 23:09
  win more. I love that We we, we need that
• 23:12
  in the game. We need that, that, that that
• 23:14
  team that's just going to continue to pour into its
• 23:17
  organization, pour money into. I mean, like, I love that.
• 23:20
  And then and then the Orioles, how many how many times have the
• 23:23
  Orioles gone out of their way to sign guys like the polar bear
• 23:28
  this offseason, like in their history?
• 23:30
  They're making a move. They're making a move That's
• 23:33
  awesome. I love to see that.
• 23:34
  You know, so I don't I I'm kind of a guy that that looks at the
• 23:37
  glass is half full all the time. I want to switch.
• 23:40
  Gears you, you as a catcher that took pride in what you did.
• 23:43
  And my son, now he's he's pitching in college.
• 23:46
  And what is your stance and what is your thought on this?
• 23:50
  I feel like it's lazy. I understand with the with the
• 23:52
  one knee down and why we're seeing more pass balls as
• 23:55
  catchers in the way that like it.
• 23:58
  It just for me, you're not in a in a more athletic stance with,
• 24:03
  with being down on one knee or putting.
• 24:06
  I mean, we obviously go back. We can go look at the Benito
• 24:08
  Santiagos and the Penas of of the what they were and how they
• 24:12
  were different. But now it feels like that's the
• 24:15
  standard and the old way of just catching and receiving and how
• 24:18
  how they value receiving in in what it is.
• 24:21
  But then I feel like there's some pitches getting taken away
• 24:25
  by just the way they're receiving the baseball being on
• 24:28
  one leg and not being as mobile left and right.
• 24:31
  And for me as a pitcher, if I know I can't bury A-12 back foot
• 24:35
  slider because he can't quite get there, then I'm kind of
• 24:38
  second guessing myself in that situation when that's my bread
• 24:41
  and butter. And I know I can go to it, but
• 24:44
  maybe I give up the guy that still gets on 1st and then
• 24:47
  extends an inning. And I just, it's it's
• 24:49
  interesting to me. And somebody of your caliber
• 24:51
  that's done it at the highest level and now gets to teach it.
• 24:54
  Do you teach it? If so, why or why not?
• 24:57
  Yeah, I. Definitely.
• 25:00
  So what I've kind of come up with is, you know, talking about
• 25:04
  like traditional stances, because that's, that's what
• 25:07
  they've become a a secondary stance is now like of 1980 to
• 25:12
  1990s where your butts off the ground, all that stuff, though,
• 25:17
  that is what I call a traditional stance.
• 25:21
  Those it's outdated, it's obsolete.
• 25:23
  And a lot of in the minds of a lot of baseball people and, and
• 25:26
  it's because they analytics has put such an emphasis on
• 25:29
  receiving and stealing strikes. And my whole thing was and I,
• 25:33
  and I agree with you, I think, you know, depending on the age
• 25:37
  especially, and the, and the range of the catcher and the
• 25:41
  athleticism of the catcher, we're doing a disservice to kids
• 25:45
  by putting them on a knee when they're eight years old to let's
• 25:48
  say 15 to be exact. You know, like just as an
• 25:51
  example, in terms of player development, we're making a huge
• 25:55
  mistake saying you're 8 years old, ten years old, you're
• 25:57
  catching from a knee. That's happening, that's really
• 26:00
  happening. I'm seeing it happen.
• 26:01
  It's just disgusting. It's no good for the kids.
• 26:06
  And the reason why is, and I know this because we did kind of
• 26:09
  a case study when I was the catching guy with the Washington
• 26:12
  Nationals. First thing you see is when you
• 26:15
  see a kid on a knee, if he's on a knee too much, when he goes
• 26:18
  down to do anything else, he, he goes back to that muscle memory
• 26:22
  that he just created by catching on a knee.
• 26:26
  And, and it looks lazy, it looks careless, it looks awful.
• 26:30
  And that's that. But that's happening.
• 26:32
  And so we had to fight that. We had to get the kids to
• 26:34
  believe in these traditional stances and that that was the
• 26:38
  way to go. Because if there's an automatic
• 26:40
  ball and strike system coming, it doesn't matter how you catch
• 26:44
  it. But what's going to come, what
• 26:45
  what's going to become more important again, is how you're
• 26:49
  able to throw guys out and how you're able to block.
• 26:51
  And we proved when I was with the Washington Nationals, and
• 26:54
  this is a credit to the Washington Nationals, not me,
• 26:57
  but as a catching coordinator with the Washington Nationals.
• 26:59
  The Washington Nationals built a system that was able to analyze
• 27:05
  every ball that was blocked by every catcher in baseball, from
• 27:10
  in professional baseball, from a ball all the way up to the big
• 27:13
  leagues and all the way down, back down to the Dominican.
• 27:16
  They could analyze the range of every ball and we're able to
• 27:20
  quantify what balls should be blocked and what balls were OK
• 27:24
  to not block. And all of a sudden when they
• 27:28
  started to see those, those stats become the important
• 27:32
  factors that they are, it definitely weighed in on their
• 27:36
  decision with us, or at least when I was there, on whether or
• 27:39
  not we caught from one knee. And we fought that and we fought
• 27:43
  that because we care about the catchers.
• 27:46
  A lot of a lot of what you're seeing now is just an excuse to
• 27:50
  me, just an excuse. And it's no good excuse.
• 27:55
  So I want to ask like the. Impact of analytics in baseball
• 27:57
  because we've been a lot of guests on our show that have
• 27:59
  mentioned like the IT takes away from, like you mentioned with
• 28:02
  the catcher standpoint, but also like when you look at pitching
• 28:04
  Java, Java brings it up all the time.
• 28:06
  Like sometimes you do these advanced metrics, some of which
• 28:08
  you wish he had when he played and others that he didn't.
• 28:11
  Do you think that's, one, hurt the development of certain young
• 28:13
  players and two, also rose the injuries, the amount of injuries
• 28:16
  we've seen in baseball with arms and stuff like that?
• 28:20
  Yeah, I would go back and say this.
• 28:22
  If I had a catcher like Cal Raleigh and Cal Raleigh wanted
• 28:26
  to catch from a knee, it would be a different conversation
• 28:29
  because he's hitting seventy home runs and we want to keep
• 28:31
  this guy in the lineup. We're we want him to be super
• 28:34
  efficient with all of his movements.
• 28:37
  He's going to score this team. His war is going to be way
• 28:39
  better. And when he catches from a knee,
• 28:41
  he's he's recovers and he's able to catch.
• 28:44
  That's a different story, you know, than a guy that's marginal
• 28:49
  at the plate. He, he, he, you know, his wars
• 28:51
  and the two to three range to a -, 2 to 3 range, you know, in
• 28:55
  there, but he does a good job handling the staff.
• 28:58
  You know, it's a different, it's a different conversation for me,
• 29:01
  you know, in terms of especially player development.
• 29:04
  But I think, you know, along the, along the lines of just
• 29:08
  analytics in general. I, I am a big fan of a big
• 29:10
  proponent of it. I think that it goes back though
• 29:14
  to that, that paralysis by over analysis, the more information
• 29:18
  you have can be a detriment, especially the player
• 29:21
  development. I mean, some of the best players
• 29:23
  in the game and the history of the game were the best players
• 29:26
  in the game because they were C ball, hit ball.
• 29:29
  They didn't think about, you know, when a pitcher was
• 29:32
  pitching that 75% of the time he threw his change up in a one O
• 29:36
  count. That would have been helpful
• 29:37
  information. But I promise you there, there
• 29:40
  were players that had more success thinking less about all
• 29:47
  of that. We are.
• 29:48
  Talking to former Expos Cubs, Blue Jays catcher Michael Barry.
• 29:52
  I don't want to keep you on too long, Michael, because I want
• 29:54
  you to go and get a chance to check out your son.
• 29:56
  He's a senior playing basketball.
• 29:58
  I don't want to take that away from you, but one of our fans
• 30:00
  have a question for you on and I think it's a really, really good
• 30:03
  one. And I want to give a shout out
• 30:04
  to Shy Town for listening to us. He was a big cut.
• 30:09
  He's a big Cubs fan and he wants to know a little bit about the
• 30:12
  Cubs and White Sox rivalry. Is his name AJ?
• 30:17
  No. Yeah, I tell people.
• 30:22
  I was talking about it the other day.
• 30:24
  I was talking about we're coming up on the 20th year of that,
• 30:28
  that fight. And you know, when I talk about
• 30:31
  it, I feel like it just happened yesterday.
• 30:33
  It's very vivid in my mind and in my heart, my soul.
• 30:37
  It became such a part of me and just that rivalry and being a
• 30:42
  club member and I saw somebody other day, I don't remember, I
• 30:46
  don't remember. And, and I, I, I kid you not
• 30:49
  when I say this at, when in, in 2004 to 2007 and the time that I
• 30:55
  was a member of the Chicago Cubs, especially, especially
• 30:58
  when we were playing the White Sox at their place.
• 31:02
  I, I can't remember how many times and, or how many innings
• 31:07
  there wasn't a fight outside of the, the game.
• 31:11
  I can't remember how many times there wasn't a fight taking
• 31:14
  place. And it was, it was the energy,
• 31:16
  it was the, it was the atmosphere.
• 31:19
  It was intense. I know I can't imagine playing
• 31:22
  that game or playing against AJ. And I don't think AJ and I think
• 31:25
  AJ would say the same thing. I don't think AJ nor I could
• 31:29
  ever imagine playing in that series or playing in the game
• 31:33
  where we didn't think of knocking each other's heads off
• 31:37
  at any point in time because that was just the, that's just
• 31:39
  what it meant. That's what it meant to
• 31:41
  everybody. And and if you sat in the stands
• 31:44
  for one game, you had to have seen four or five fights break
• 31:49
  out at some point on an average, I will say.
• 31:52
  This there, there's one fight that really sticks out to me
• 31:55
  from all the rest, and that was the Alex Rodriguez, Pedro
• 32:01
  Martinez the the the just thought that the outbreak of Red
• 32:06
  Sox and Yankee fights that we've seen in from the from the years
• 32:11
  of 2000 to 2007, there was always something that was going
• 32:16
  to break with the Red Sox. Pedro Martinez couldn't stand
• 32:19
  the Yankees. Alex Rodriguez couldn't stand
• 32:21
  the Red Sox. Even though and I'm watching the
• 32:23
  Alex Rodriguez documentary right now which is fan friggin tastic
• 32:28
  if anybody hasn't checked in. It is.
• 32:30
  Awesome. It is so good.
• 32:32
  It really is well put by HBO. I, I got to say I, I'm on the
• 32:37
  second episode. I, I saw the first one today.
• 32:39
  It's really well put together, but you could see that a rod,
• 32:43
  the fact is, is a rod always wanted to be a Yankee.
• 32:45
  He was surprised that the Red Sox were going to make a move
• 32:48
  for him and then everything fell apart.
• 32:49
  He becomes a Yankee and we all know what happened after that.
• 32:53
  I mean, when you look at when you think of teams that couldn't
• 32:56
  stand each other, the Red Sox and the Yankees, the Chicago
• 32:59
  Cubs and the White Sox couldn't stand each other.
• 33:03
  I mean, I, I mean, you could go back on some of the teams that
• 33:05
  the fights that we seen the Dodgers, I think who was the
• 33:08
  Dodgers that couldn't stand and we saw the fights all the time.
• 33:11
  Is it the Dodgers and the Angels?
• 33:12
  Something I, I, I, I don't remember exactly, but it over
• 33:15
  the years, Valenzuela who, who did, who's the team that
• 33:19
  Valenzuela went? Oh man, the.
• 33:21
  Giants. The Giants.
• 33:22
  The Giants. Yes, the Dodgers.
• 33:25
  And San Francisco Giants couldn't stand each other.
• 33:27
  That's a bad one. I mean, that one goes way back I
• 33:30
  would say. I would say, you know, the the
• 33:32
  great thing, I shouldn't say the great thing.
• 33:33
  I mean, I don't condone fighting, OK, But I I think that
• 33:37
  like if anybody thought that that wasn't in a rod, he proved
• 33:42
  they were wrong. He proved he one of the greatest
• 33:45
  players. I don't care whatever anybody
• 33:47
  says, he is one of the greatest players ever play the game and
• 33:51
  he was one of the most cool elected players to ever play the
• 33:55
  game and that series got to him anytime anytime you you you
• 33:59
  throw down your back, you look at the picture, you stare at
• 34:01
  him, you point at him, you go to fight him and then Veritech gets
• 34:04
  in your face. That's a that that means that
• 34:08
  some element of the game got to you, right?
• 34:11
  And he was one of the best players of all time to me.
• 34:16
  And proof right there that anything at any point in time in
• 34:22
  those series can bring the worst out of some of the best in US.
• 34:26
  Michael before, but Michael. Before we let you go, I want to
• 34:29
  say something. There is a particular player
• 34:31
  that Jabba Chamberlain couldn't stand.
• 34:33
  He played with Jabba Chamberlain.
• 34:35
  He played with the Red Sox. Could you guess that player that
• 34:39
  Jabba couldn't stand? Well, I know.
• 34:41
  AJ was a member of the Red Sox. I don't know if that's the one.
• 34:44
  Is that the one? Does that count?
• 34:45
  No, no, I'm going. To give you I'm going to give
• 34:46
  you a hint. His first name starts.
• 34:48
  You need a hint? Let me get.
• 34:49
  You going to give me this chance?
• 34:50
  Yeah. So I'm going to give you a.
• 34:51
  Chance. OK, here I'm going to give you a
• 34:53
  hint. OK, All right, here's it.
• 34:56
  His brother-in-law is a famous player in the NFL.
• 34:59
  Was a famous player in the NFL. Wow.
• 35:02
  I'll give you a hint. Again, I'll give you another
• 35:04
  one, I feel. Like I'm letting Java down right
• 35:06
  now, I'll give you another. Hint.
• 35:08
  I'll give you another hint. He's one of the greatest players
• 35:11
  at his position in NFL history. Oh my gosh.
• 35:14
  Why am I drawing a blank right now?
• 35:16
  I'll give you another. Hint.
• 35:17
  He also played in Boston. Oh man.
• 35:22
  I'll give you one that might help.
• 35:25
  OK, go ahead. He had a.
• 35:26
  Weird batting scan. Oh man, that.
• 35:28
  That narrows it down. Oh, man.
• 35:32
  You're gonna have to tell me who it is.
• 35:33
  All right, hold on. He.
• 35:34
  Likes to play with himself. Oh my gosh, there's a lot of
• 35:40
  those guys like that, all right. OK, his first name starts with
• 35:46
  AK and his last name starts with AY.
• 35:51
  Is that Euclid? That's right.
• 35:53
  Oh my. Gosh, I can't believe I I, I was
• 35:57
  thinking Bevin Euclid, but I was like, I honestly didn't know he
• 36:00
  had a brother-in-law in the NFL. Yes, Tom.
• 36:03
  Brady Tom Brady. Tom Brady is his brother-in-law.
• 36:05
  Oh my gosh, I. Had no idea.
• 36:07
  Like that's how stupid I am. No, you're not stupid.
• 36:09
  Michael, But I got basketball. In the brain all day today I got
• 36:12
  an excuse. I've watched 3 high school
• 36:14
  basketball games. I'm done.
• 36:16
  Go take care of. Your go take care of your son.
• 36:19
  I don't want to keep you for from that and let's get you on
• 36:22
  now. He's good.
• 36:22
  You got told about his problems coming on the line.
• 36:24
  I was like, we're going to give you a shout out.
• 36:26
  He was so excited. I I want to say something.
• 36:30
  We're good. I want to.
• 36:31
  I want. To get you on the show again,
• 36:34
  let's get you stationed and I would love to get you on the
• 36:37
  show. You have tremendous, You have a
• 36:38
  bunch of tremendous stories and Jabba's an ex pitcher and you're
• 36:43
  an ex catcher. I'm sure you guys have, you
• 36:46
  know, back and forth banter when it comes to, you know, pitching
• 36:49
  styles and catching styles and, and, and, and I'm sure we can
• 36:53
  get into stories that you have from all the years that you
• 36:55
  played. And by the way, I, I've looked
• 36:57
  at your numbers against some of the best pitchers in baseball.
• 37:00
  They are pretty ridiculous. Shabba is right.
• 37:02
  You, you are pretty good against some good pitchers.
• 37:06
  So I, I'm not going to lie, I'm looking, I've been looking at
• 37:09
  some of the guys that you've hit very well against.
• 37:11
  It's it's pretty amazing, man, but well, I appreciate.
• 37:15
  It that's very flattering and I definitely would love to come
• 37:18
  back home, especially when you guys can see me and I'm not like
• 37:21
  the kid from 6th Sense, like I see dead people.
• 37:27
  But you're great. And by the way, we we really
• 37:32
  appreciate you joining us because sometimes, you know, you
• 37:35
  have all this stuff to do. You have family and all that
• 37:38
  other stuff. The fact that you came and you
• 37:40
  you did it in your car, because we we're known for interviewing
• 37:44
  people in their cars. Jabba made a joke about it.
• 37:46
  We're known on a show that it seems like we get guys and
• 37:51
  they're they're either at a family, you know, family thing,
• 37:56
  or they're at a basketball game, football game or something and
• 37:59
  they come on the show. But we, the fact that you came
• 38:02
  on the show and you gave us a really good interview.
• 38:04
  He told us a load of stories that we can use and cut up and
• 38:07
  chop up. We really appreciate it.
• 38:09
  And I'm going to have Nathan reach out to you and I'll have
• 38:13
  Nathan give the information to Speedy and Speedy will work out
• 38:16
  another date to get you on and we'll talk a little bit more
• 38:19
  ball with you. And yeah, let's do it.
• 38:21
  Have a lot of fun with. You man, how's that?
• 38:24
  Appreciate you guys, thanks for having me on the show y'all.
• 38:26
  Have a wonderful night and happy holidays and happy New Year.
• 38:31
  If I don't see you, same to you, same to you.
• 38:33
  Man and happy Hanukkah to all the fans out there.
• 38:36
  Happy Kwanzaa, Happy Hanukkah, Yes.
• 38:38
  Merry Christmas. Happy Kwanzaa.
• 38:40
  Yes and Merry Christmas. Everything and and make sure.
• 38:43
  That you keep some of that money in your pocket, if you know what
• 38:47
  I mean. So.
• 38:50
  Mike, tell your son I hope he balls out today from us.
• 38:53
  Oh yeah. Appreciate it.
• 38:55
  You got it. Thanks, Mike.
• 38:57
  Michael, All right. Barrett Ladies.
• 38:59
  And gentlemen, he was sensational.
• 39:01
  Let's go to our Savior Tears Week 15 recap.
• 39:05
  Mom, what's one thing? That you can't talk to me about
• 39:09
  my sexual fantasies? No, say your sorry.
• 39:14
  It is not ideal, but if it's what it is, not ideal, but if
• 39:16
  it's. This is not ideal.
• 39:18
  But if it is what we you can't. Treble stamp a double stamp.
• 39:21
  You can't treble stamp a double stamp.
• 39:22
  Lloyd you can't treble stamp a double stamp.
• 39:24
  Lloyd, you guys, now it's time for save your tears.
• 39:33
  All. Right, Save your tears.
• 39:35
  Recap for Week 15. Another great game.
• 39:40
  Let's take a look at who we were picking from on the board.
• 39:45
  Again, it was a loaded quarterback class, but Joe
• 39:48
  Burrow scored no points in the Bengal land.
• 39:53
  What a disaster for anyone who picked him.
• 39:55
  A couple of people did. I'm on Ross St.
• 39:56
  Brown had one of the best weeks of anyone ever this year, so
• 40:01
  Congrats to Pearson to pick. I'm on Rod Jamar, Chase, the
• 40:05
  Puka, Nakua, all stand out performances.
• 40:07
  Gibbs was taken by a bunch of guys, didn't do much.
• 40:10
  Same thing with Derrick Henry, Tyrone Tracy.
• 40:13
  Big game for the Giants. Colby Parkinson was the standout
• 40:17
  tight end this week. Mark Andrews kind of
• 40:19
  disappearing even though $5 player Devante Adams got hurt.
• 40:23
  T Higgins. Did not.
• 40:25
  Play in this game. So if you took Higgins, you got
• 40:30
  bupkis. I actually decided to give you
• 40:32
  the other Higgins. I gave Jaden.
• 40:34
  I saw Jaden Higgins was out there, so I just said we'll give
• 40:37
  you some Higgins points. Yeah, that he only.
• 40:39
  Got 1.4 points to help you win fish.
• 40:42
  Fish one. Well, it's me in the.
• 40:44
  Playoffs. I'm talking.
• 40:46
  About that, what are you talking about?
• 40:49
  Speedy is just. Jealous that I'm moving on to
• 40:51
  the next round in our show league playoffs to face Errol,
• 40:55
  by the way, in a square in a rematch of early season that
• 40:58
  went over like a drubbing that I took.
• 41:00
  All right, who's see who the winner was this time?
• 41:03
  And the winner is yes, once again, speedy PD is our
• 41:06
  champion. One O 8.2, the highest point
• 41:10
  total, I believe this season or close to it.
• 41:14
  Big games from Parkinson, Jameson Williams had a monster
• 41:17
  game. Everyone did in that game.
• 41:19
  Pokémon Nakua. Not much out of Lamar, but you
• 41:23
  know, there really wasn't much to compete with at the
• 41:25
  quarterback position. Jackson Dart had a good game
• 41:28
  fantasy wise. Seems to always do that.
• 41:31
  That's something to think about going into next year's drafts,
• 41:33
  everybody. Jared Goff was the leading point
• 41:35
  getter there. I don't know, but Nathan, let me
• 41:37
  know you. You, you mentioned, you
• 41:39
  mentioned Jackson Dart, but I, I'm going to tell you guys, all
• 41:42
  the fans out there, Nathan, shut off whatever's behind you
• 41:45
  because there's a big sound in the back.
• 41:47
  I, I will say this and I, I went back and I said it again.
• 41:50
  I'll say it again, like the beginning of the show, don't be
• 41:53
  surprised if the Giants are sitting there.
• 41:55
  Errol, we're going to literally do a segment all about that
• 41:58
  next. Let's go.
• 41:59
  So all right, let's just keep that.
• 42:02
  Stay away from that. Let's listen, Dart.
• 42:04
  Dart's having a good one. I got third place because I took
• 42:07
  Dart and I got second. Wonderful.
• 42:09
  And you got. 2nd place with Amman Ross, St.
• 42:12
  Brown and Jamar Chase leading the way.
• 42:14
  So this is how it goes. Let's get the compliments out,
• 42:17
  starting with Tommy. Oops.
• 42:20
  Wow. I I.
• 42:22
  Did pathetic wow, just straight up 50, but I had to take a shit
• 42:26
  all right, Basically speedy. Men, you know, I, I remember I'm
• 42:30
  not giving him any compliments today because he knows why I I'm
• 42:34
  not giving him any compliments today.
• 42:36
  So, all right, Speedy I, I was in somewhat of a pedestal being
• 42:41
  back top three back-to-back weeks.
• 42:44
  Pretty. Often, honestly, but Speedy, you
• 42:46
  were the man and you were the one that does not.
• 42:48
  You were the constant, does not the tier from the top three or
• 42:52
  either one or two, mostly one as of recent weeks.
• 42:56
  So, yeah, good job, Speedy. All right, Nith.
• 43:01
  You're up next. All right, what's up?
• 43:03
  Everyone but speedy Congrats on another.
• 43:05
  OK, jobless, but speedy. Congrats on another win.
• 43:11
  As always. You're a great producer.
• 43:14
  You do a great job on everything.
• 43:16
  What you do, maybe you make some mistakes, but you're so good.
• 43:20
  You're amazing. You're the best.
• 43:22
  Keep it up, sweetie. Great working with you.
• 43:25
  So that's it. All right, Jabba.
• 43:29
  Really, like I said, you are, you are the epitome of what we
• 43:33
  try to follow and the way you do things and it does never fail
• 43:38
  you. You sometimes fall off the
• 43:39
  horse, but you always get back on and, and as we've seen, you
• 43:42
  did it again with the highest point total.
• 43:44
  So we shouldn't be surprised and we should all follow lead.
• 43:47
  That's why if we had somebody else ever wins, they make sure
• 43:50
  you go 1st and piggyback off you because your your picks are
• 43:55
  always very quick and you already have them and then it
• 43:58
  usually ends up working out. And so we need to follow your
• 44:01
  lead a little bit more. All right, I am next on this one
• 44:08
  Speedy. You know, professionally, I work
• 44:12
  with special needs students in high school setting and very
• 44:17
  often through no fault of effort, we make mistakes.
• 44:24
  You don't make mistakes on Save Your Tears.
• 44:25
  You're going to, I think you're all but clinching it this week.
• 44:29
  If you can get one more point, I think you have it clinched
• 44:32
  unless Nathan can make a comeback in the last couple of
• 44:35
  weeks. But you do a great job with all
• 44:38
  the stuff on the show. It's just sometimes we make
• 44:40
  mistakes. We just got to.
• 44:42
  Move forwards, fix them, make sure we don't make the same
• 44:45
  mistakes over and over and over again and just get better.
• 44:49
  And I know you can do that. And that's what really the
• 44:51
  message is just try to get better every day.
• 44:54
  You're already the top of your game on savior to your stuff on.
• 44:57
  Saturday night, Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza won
• 45:01
  the 2025 Heisman Trophy, which by the way, I was there the
• 45:05
  first Indiana player to ever win the nation's top prize in
• 45:10
  college football. Mendoza also became the first
• 45:13
  Cuban American to win the Heisman and just the third
• 45:16
  player of Latin American descent to win after Jim Plunkett and
• 45:22
  Bryce Young. Oh, what a what a couple over
• 45:25
  there. Mendoza won in a blowout with
• 45:29
  2362 total points and 643 first place votes, almost 1000 more
• 45:37
  points and and over 400 more first place votes than the
• 45:41
  second place finisher, Vanderbilt quarterback Diego
• 45:45
  Pavia, who by the way, was bitching and moaning.
• 45:47
  Pavia finished in second with Notre Dame running back Jeremiah
• 45:52
  Love in 3rd and Ohio State quarterback Julian Sayin in
• 45:57
  fourth. Pavia had now deleted Instagram
• 46:01
  his Instagram story that said F all the voters but then
• 46:05
  apologize the next day saying he didn't handle his emotions well
• 46:11
  and he should be honored being named as a finalist.
• 46:16
  Mendoza has also won the Davey O'Brien most outstanding
• 46:22
  quarterback award, the Maxwell Award for most outstanding
• 46:26
  player and the Associate Press player of the year.
• 46:29
  Mendoza had 2980 passing yards and a college football best 33
• 46:35
  passing touchdowns while also adding 240 rushing yards and six
• 46:42
  rushing touchdowns. Who by the way, everybody says
• 46:44
  he's a pocket present quarterback.
• 46:46
  He is not even a mobile quarterback.
• 46:48
  But when you look at those numbers, I, I, I don't think you
• 46:50
  could really attack that He has some mobility.
• 46:55
  I was there and I put out a story on the Worldwide Sports
• 46:58
  Radio Network. It's I, I put it very well put
• 47:01
  together. I mean, Fish reached out to me
• 47:04
  and said this is one of my best stories because I, I was there
• 47:07
  and I can kind of give you the feedback on everything that
• 47:10
  happened during the media session and the award show.
• 47:15
  So it was fun being a part of that.
• 47:18
  And it's also fun to be a part of it because Mendoza, a lot of
• 47:22
  the media people that were there really believe that Mendoza
• 47:26
  could be a Giant or a Jet. Now, I know a lot of Giant fans
• 47:32
  sitting there saying, we got Jackson Thart, what do we need?
• 47:35
  Fernando Mendoza? Well, there's a lot of reasons
• 47:38
  why I think Fernando Mendoza would be a great fit for the
• 47:41
  Giants as well as an outstanding fit for the New York, NY Jets.
• 47:46
  He's very good when it comes to the media.
• 47:49
  He understands how to speak. He understands the type of
• 47:52
  player he can be here in New York, even winning the award,
• 47:57
  ladies and gentlemen, he went out and celebrated it in in
• 48:00
  front of all the New York fans at Times Square.
• 48:03
  I've never and I've been to this is the second award, but I've
• 48:07
  never heard a player go out with the trophy and go into Times
• 48:12
  Square and celebrate it with all the fans out there where listen
• 48:16
  it. It's dangerous.
• 48:18
  And all the players surrounding him and all the fans surrounding
• 48:22
  taking pictures and screaming JETS, jets, jets, Jets.
• 48:26
  I mean, it was a remarkable time to just see such a legitimate
• 48:31
  superstar here in New York and might be an as a fan be the
• 48:39
  opportunity to land a player of this magnitude would really
• 48:43
  change the New York Jets organization and maybe even the
• 48:46
  New York Giants organization. The blow out, you know, and I I
• 48:50
  got the numbers, I got the after the announcement.
• 48:54
  If you're in the media room, they give you all the numbers
• 48:57
  where and how many votes and I can get you the numbers on
• 49:01
  Southwest, northeast on where the votes were coming from and
• 49:05
  how bad he dominated when he came to the voting.
• 49:08
  And he just absolutely dominated when he was Vegas said it was a
• 49:14
  -, 2000 or 2100 when before the award show, I there was no doubt
• 49:20
  in my mind Mendoza was going to win.
• 49:24
  The fact that and I'm I'm Diego, I I'm surprised that you
• 49:27
  actually thought you had a chance.
• 49:29
  And Pavia had a great season. There's no question what he did
• 49:32
  with Vanderbilt is outstanding. Vanderbilt has never been ranked
• 49:35
  so high. Vanderbilt has not ever looked
• 49:38
  as good. He is sensational.
• 49:40
  He looked so good and so and it remember this guy is he's not a
• 49:44
  big quarterback. He doesn't have that the arm
• 49:48
  strength like you know, Mendoza does or the accuracy like
• 49:51
  Mendoza does or even Sayin and Julian.
• 49:54
  Sayin is going to be here at least two more times.
• 49:57
  Sayin is going to win a Heisman Trophy.
• 49:58
  I promise you guys that or you Ohio State Buckeye fans, this
• 50:02
  man is going to win a Heisman Trophy.
• 50:04
  He's a pretty boy. I I think anybody, any of the
• 50:08
  women that were there, all the media women that were there,
• 50:11
  they flocked to this guy. They flocked to say it.
• 50:15
  There's no question. And Jeremiah love, I love his
• 50:17
  speech. I, I wouldn't be surprised The
• 50:19
  Jets sitting at 13, Jeremiah love if The Jets move up to get
• 50:24
  Mendoza and then draft Jeremiah love.
• 50:27
  These guys love each other. They were sitting right next to
• 50:30
  each other, giving all the compliments back and forth with
• 50:32
  one another. And, and I felt bad for Jeremiah
• 50:35
  Love because this man should be in the Football Playoff.
• 50:40
  I didn't ask him that question because I didn't want to.
• 50:42
  This is supposed to be a fun time and an exciting time.
• 50:45
  I didn't want to piss the man off, but I would be pissed off
• 50:49
  knowing that. Besides, you know, Pavia
• 50:52
  Vanderpol missed, missed the playoffs by a little bit.
• 50:55
  But Ohio State and Indiana going into the playoffs and Notre Dame
• 50:59
  was, I would think, just as good as both those teams all season
• 51:04
  long. They should be there.
• 51:06
  They should be challenging Ohio State or Indiana in this big,
• 51:11
  this Football Playoff, but it didn't happen.
• 51:14
  But I, I love the fact that a lot of the media people didn't
• 51:20
  just look at the New York Jets as a spot, a landing spot for a
• 51:25
  guy like Mendoza. A lot of the giant media people
• 51:28
  think that depending on if Joe Shane's there or he's not, If
• 51:31
  Joe Shane's not there and there's a new GM there and
• 51:34
  there's going to be a new coach, they might think that Jackson
• 51:37
  Dart is an injury prone player or he's going to put himself in
• 51:40
  harm's way. And they feel that Mendoza is a
• 51:42
  better fit for their future and, and and really a quarterback
• 51:47
  that they could build their roster around.
• 51:49
  Because to me, he was, is everything you want in a New
• 51:53
  York quarterback Now, I don't know how it's going to work
• 51:55
  here. I don't know if he's going to
• 51:57
  handle the New York the New York crowds.
• 51:59
  And, and we've seen quarterback after quarterback for the New
• 52:02
  York Jets get drafted and they fall apart.
• 52:05
  Sam Donald, he didn't work here, but he's in Seattle doing well.
• 52:08
  In Minnesota, he did well. I mean, Geno Smith, he leaves
• 52:11
  here, he goes, he backs up Eli Manning, takes over Eli
• 52:14
  Manning's job with Ben McAdoo. And then he goes over there to
• 52:19
  Seattle and and he was up for an MVP one year.
• 52:22
  So I mean, Geno Smith developed after the fact.
• 52:25
  Mark Sanchez, he had two years, 2 good years with The Jets and
• 52:29
  then he's the butt fumble is what everybody remembers him
• 52:32
  from. Christian Hackenberg, a boss,
• 52:34
  Brownie Nagle, a bust. I could go on and on and on.
• 52:37
  So I but I never saw the, the personality this kid holds the
• 52:42
  crying, the, the, the electrifying personality is with
• 52:48
  his his fan base and his friends, everybody.
• 52:52
  I don't know if anybody understands this.
• 52:55
  Every single one of his team mates showed up to this award
• 53:00
  show and when they were in it to the media room and and Nathan, I
• 53:04
  want you to. I don't know who's there's a
• 53:05
  sound. Oh, it's not nothing, but I when
• 53:09
  the award show was unique because after that they came in
• 53:13
  and they came in 10 minutes before Mendoza came in.
• 53:17
  And I knew that as soon as Mendota Doza walked into that
• 53:20
  double door, these guys were going to go nuts.
• 53:23
  And when he walked through the door, they went crazy.
• 53:27
  They picked him up. Honestly.
• 53:30
  Anybody seen the movie Rudy? If anybody seen the movie Rudy,
• 53:34
  he's to me, Joe Montana said this never happened, by the way.
• 53:39
  And, and if anybody seen the 49 years documentary, Joe Montana
• 53:43
  said that Rudy was never carried off the field and he was.
• 53:47
  So I don't know if it's true or not, but Joe Montana said it's
• 53:50
  not. But if you watch the movie, Rudy
• 53:52
  Rudiger gets carried off the field and and and that's, that's
• 53:56
  the way ever all the fans going crazy.
• 53:59
  This man got practically picked up by his offensive line.
• 54:03
  And this guy, this guy is not a small man.
• 54:05
  He's 6364. He's a big man.
• 54:08
  And these guys had him off the ground and they were going
• 54:11
  crazy. His offensive line, his two off
• 54:14
  tackles had him up in the air and they were like lifting him
• 54:17
  up like he was at a bar mitzvah, OK?
• 54:20
  It was unbelievable. It was fun to watch.
• 54:23
  And I'm going to tell you guys this one, one time and one time
• 54:27
  only. No matter where this guy's go,
• 54:29
  this guy goes Las Vegas, the Giants, the Saints, anywhere
• 54:36
  this guy's go, this guy goes. This guy is a superstar.
• 54:40
  He is the closest thing to me to Joe Burrow.
• 54:43
  He's got that that ice feeling. You know how they called Maddie
• 54:47
  ice when the big when, when the big times, when the important
• 54:51
  times in a game happens, he makes the biggest plays.
• 54:54
  This guy doesn't have to put up to hundred 300 yards.
• 54:57
  This guy can throw 150 yards in a game.
• 55:00
  And at the end of the game, when he needs to make a play, this
• 55:02
  guy makes the play. He makes the right play.
• 55:04
  His coach was there. His coach spoke and the media
• 55:07
  asked him and said, what makes this kid different from all the
• 55:09
  rest? What do you see in this kid that
• 55:12
  you don't see in other quarterbacks that you've seen
• 55:15
  that have won this award? And he says this guy, no matter
• 55:19
  how big the game is, how, what, how many, how much time is left
• 55:24
  on the clock when a play needs to happen, this guy finds a way
• 55:27
  to make the plays. And that's to me is a sign of a
• 55:31
  superstar and and a franchise quarterback.
• 55:34
  That's what he said and I believe it.
• 55:36
  There was nothing I saw in this guy so kind collective.
• 55:40
  He spoke to the media so very well.
• 55:42
  I was up in front with him and every question I asked him, I
• 55:47
  asked him, I said my question, my big question to him, it was
• 55:51
  if you were recruiting, if if, if somebody, if your coach asked
• 55:54
  you to help recruit one of the biggest prospects or one of the
• 55:57
  biggest quarterback prospects in the country for IU, how would
• 56:02
  you go upon reaching out to this kid and pitching IU and their
• 56:08
  program to this, this this kid? And he said the proof's in the
• 56:11
  pudding. Anybody that's seen me play
• 56:14
  college football, anybody see me when I came from the portal and
• 56:18
  anybody see me as a development developmental quarterback when I
• 56:23
  came from where I came to Indiana, you would know that I I
• 56:28
  am not the same quarterback I was when I came to Indiana.
• 56:31
  And you look at the look at the player I've become and he says
• 56:34
  this is a family here. And he says nobody's bigger than
• 56:38
  the other player. And he said this Heisman Trophy
• 56:41
  that I won today is not because of me, it's because everybody,
• 56:46
  my teammates, my coaches, everybody around me helped me
• 56:50
  get to this spot. And that's why I'm here today.
• 56:53
  And he started to cry. And I, I felt it, you know, you
• 56:57
  know, when you feel it from somebody, when you when you feel
• 56:59
  somebody cry and you felt it, I felt it from him.
• 57:03
  He's sincere, he's powerful, he's everything you want.
• 57:06
  I'm telling you, Giant fans, and I'm going to tell you this is
• 57:09
  from my heart. If the Giants pass up on this
• 57:12
  kid and trade out of this pick, they're making a big mistake,
• 57:16
  Big mistake. As much as I like Jackson dart,
• 57:20
  if the Giants are drafting at one, I trade Jackson Dart and
• 57:23
  I'm drafting this kid. You can book it.
• 57:25
  I'm telling you right now, this kid is the real deal.
• 57:27
  I really do believe it. I was wrong about Zach Wilson,
• 57:30
  but I've been right about quarterbacks.
• 57:32
  I've been right about players. I'm right about this.
• 57:35
  I, I fought with Jeff on the phone the other day and I said,
• 57:38
  he says this kid, I, I, you don't know what this kids going
• 57:42
  to be. I don't think this kids going to
• 57:43
  be any good. I said, you're wrong.
• 57:45
  This kid is a star. This kid is a star in the making
• 57:48
  and I believe he's going to be a star in this league.
• 57:50
  Giant fans. I'm telling you, Speedy, you're
• 57:53
  a giant fan. You're a giant fan, Fisher, a
• 57:56
  giant fan. You pass up on this kid, you're
• 57:58
  making the biggest mistake at your organization in as a giant
• 58:01
  fan. And and I'm telling you right
• 58:03
  now, he's the best fit for any of these teams.
• 58:06
  Anywhere he goes, he will be a star.
• 58:08
  Yeah, it's interesting. When you look at all the flashy
• 58:10
  Heisman winners we've had over the years, and Fernando Mendoza,
• 58:13
  that kind of a breath of fresh air is kind of the opposite.
• 58:15
  Very humble. Like you said, he came from Cal.
• 58:17
  He came from Cal Berkeley. That's an academic school that
• 58:20
  they've really fallen off as a football program.
• 58:22
  They fired their coach this year when he was actually going to in
• 58:24
  a bowl game. So just shows you where they're
• 58:26
  going. But Mendoza LED a team in a very
• 58:29
  difficult Big 10 E and did it with expectations of, oh, wait,
• 58:34
  when's this team going to drop off?
• 58:35
  I haven't even picked up last week that Alabama or Oklahoma
• 58:39
  would upset them. I still don't know.
• 58:40
  But they're very new all at once.
• 58:41
  But that doesn't take away from the adversity that somebody like
• 58:44
  Mendoza really has brought to a team in Indiana that's been more
• 58:47
  known as a basketball program, a basketball state for a while.
• 58:50
  And everyone there really rallied around him and rallied
• 58:54
  around that kind of just mindset that both he has and Signetti
• 58:58
  has been coming over for him as a coach of JMU.
• 59:00
  And now you're seeing a combination of just consistency,
• 59:03
  great leadership. Yeah, not these amazing traits
• 59:05
  with everything, but like you're saying, Errol Joe Burrow, like
• 59:08
  traits that as a leader in the NFL you would want as a
• 59:12
  franchise quarterback and in the College Football Playoff, you
• 59:14
  would want as a veteran leader that you're seeing come more
• 59:17
  often. These guys have been adversity
• 59:19
  going from other schools and making it work.
• 59:21
  I got a question for. You.
• 59:22
  Yeah, the Giants drafting at one Do you draft Fernando Mendoza?
• 59:27
  Everything that I've told you what I see him as a player.
• 59:31
  Do you do you trade Jackson dart and do you draft Fernando
• 59:35
  Mendoza? I see I I it's.
• 59:37
  Interesting because I think Mendoza is I ask you a question.
• 59:39
  It's a yes or no question. It's tough.
• 59:41
  Because Mendoza is not leadership wise, I think ahead
• 59:46
  of Dart. I don't like the process of
• 59:48
  draft from back-to-back quarterback.
• 59:49
  Like bash the Cardinals for that straight Jackson Dart.
• 59:52
  People think you could get there.
• 59:54
  Are there are teams like the Rams that I believe might trade
• 59:57
  a first round? They have two of them.
• 59:59
  They could trade a late first round draft pick for a Jackson
• 1:00:01
  Dart. So to sit here and say, hey, no,
• 1:00:04
  they don't have a future. They don't.
• 1:00:07
  The Rams do not have a future at at the quarterback position.
• 1:00:10
  They have Matthew Stafford. How many years does he have
• 1:00:13
  left? There is no Baker Mayfield there
• 1:00:15
  anymore. You can make that move.
• 1:00:17
  They wanted Jackson Dart last year.
• 1:00:19
  They decided, obviously the Giants decided to move up to get
• 1:00:22
  him and and really jump the Rams on sneaking up and getting them.
• 1:00:26
  So why wouldn't you do this? You're wrong, Speedy.
• 1:00:29
  I'm sorry. I'm telling you, fans.
• 1:00:32
  I'm telling you, if The Jets move up and steal Jack, they
• 1:00:35
  steal Fernando, Fernando Mendoza from you guys, you're going to
• 1:00:38
  regret it. I'm telling you, this guy is the
• 1:00:40
  real deal. I'm not.
• 1:00:42
  There is, I've speedy, you know, I've gone out on a limb many,
• 1:00:46
  many times and I've, I've been wrong here and there, but I,
• 1:00:49
  I've been right about a lot of players.
• 1:00:51
  And this guy, I am 100% sure if he comes to New York, he's a
• 1:00:57
  star. I'm telling you, The Jets are
• 1:01:00
  looking for a guy they can build their franchise around.
• 1:01:03
  This is the guy. This is the guy quiet.
• 1:01:07
  He's an assassin. He knows how to speak to the
• 1:01:09
  media. He is perfect, perfect.
• 1:01:12
  And he's got the biggest hands I've ever seen.
• 1:01:15
  OK, So we're like, can he? Pick a hand speed.
• 1:01:17
  No, I get. Where Speedy's coming from on
• 1:01:19
  the, on the back, like the back-to-back of, you know,
• 1:01:23
  obviously they took Jackson Dart for a reason and in the way they
• 1:01:26
  did it. And I, I agree kind of with what
• 1:01:28
  Speedy's saying too, because do do you really know what Jackson
• 1:01:32
  Dart's going to be? And you do that back-to-back.
• 1:01:34
  Obviously you've kind of gotten a more, I guess personal feel
• 1:01:38
  of, of kind of what, you know, Mendoza can do.
• 1:01:42
  Obviously us in the Big 10, kind of, we kind of knew it because
• 1:01:45
  we, we see it a little bit different.
• 1:01:47
  And obviously we didn't play them this year, But I, I think
• 1:01:50
  it's, it's tough to look at it either way because it's like you
• 1:01:54
  don't want to pass up on a talent like that.
• 1:01:56
  But even as, as you say it, the way that he conducts himself in
• 1:02:00
  in that manner is completely different than when you actually
• 1:02:05
  put him in and see failure at at that stage, right?
• 1:02:08
  And I just don't for me, it's like you take the best you can,
• 1:02:12
  but also what's best for your team.
• 1:02:15
  And if you haven't really seen what Jackson Dart can be, I
• 1:02:20
  think it's really it's it's a tough decision to be made.
• 1:02:24
  I I think. They, they're going to be OK
• 1:02:26
  either way. It's going to be interesting to
• 1:02:28
  see how it falls or if they do move up or whoever moves up and,
• 1:02:32
  and how we've always talked about how the drafts A crapshoot
• 1:02:34
  anyways, because you don't really know.
• 1:02:37
  I think from what I've seen watching him and obviously being
• 1:02:40
  a Big 10 guy myself, I, I, I think he has all the attributes
• 1:02:44
  to be great. And he went out and proved it.
• 1:02:46
  And from what we see from afar and, and how he handled himself
• 1:02:51
  and the way he, he did things, you know, on and off the field,
• 1:02:54
  I, I think it's, it's a great addition to any team that's
• 1:02:58
  going to get him. Where will he fall?
• 1:02:59
  It is going to be the loaded question that everybody's going
• 1:03:02
  to talk about, I'm going to say. This and I, I, I keep hearing
• 1:03:05
  about, well, they still have Jackson Dart.
• 1:03:07
  You bring in a new GM, which they probably are, they don't
• 1:03:12
  think Jackson Dart might not be the future.
• 1:03:14
  And Jackson Dart is a mobile quarterback.
• 1:03:17
  He really hasn't shown enough where you could say, oh, this
• 1:03:20
  guy could throw. This guy can make every single
• 1:03:22
  throw. I would worry about Jackson
• 1:03:24
  Dart. First of all, his first year,
• 1:03:26
  how many injuries has he had already?
• 1:03:28
  2-3? The guy can't stay healthy.
• 1:03:30
  He doesn't know how to slide. We've seen this Mark Sanchez
• 1:03:33
  when he was a Jet. I would worry about Jackson
• 1:03:36
  Dart. This guy, he is, he's an
• 1:03:38
  assassin. The way he plays and the way he
• 1:03:42
  he nitpicks, he's guys. I want to tell you guys funny,
• 1:03:45
  something funny. So I when you go out when when
• 1:03:49
  we were there at the Heisman, when the Heisman awards, they
• 1:03:52
  gave you a book and they give you a Heisman with the Heisman
• 1:03:55
  Trophy on the book so you can take notes.
• 1:03:58
  Well, he had one. All the guys had one.
• 1:04:00
  So he was writing in the book because I guess he was, he was
• 1:04:04
  taking down notes. He is to me, he's OCD.
• 1:04:09
  So when he put the book down, when he was sitting, when he was
• 1:04:12
  doing the interview with the media, so they split up the guys
• 1:04:14
  in fours. So you could go to either him,
• 1:04:17
  Jeremiah, you can go to say in you can go to Pavia, you can go
• 1:04:20
  to any one of them. I choose Mendoza because I knew
• 1:04:22
  he was going to win and I was, he was set up right behind me
• 1:04:25
  where I was sitting in the media room.
• 1:04:27
  So when I was there, when he sat down, the first thing he did was
• 1:04:31
  put the book right in front of him, placed it and kept moving
• 1:04:35
  it around. And when you watch somebody do
• 1:04:37
  something like that, you can see that the guy on every single
• 1:04:42
  particular thing that he was doing, he was pulling his,
• 1:04:45
  pulling his pants down from his socks.
• 1:04:47
  He's a perfectionist. And I'll tell you guys this, has
• 1:04:51
  anybody seen Joe Burrow? Has anybody watched the Netflix
• 1:04:54
  Quarterback 5? Whatever what they call that,
• 1:04:57
  that Netflix show it? It's crazy because Joe Burrow is
• 1:05:01
  an OCD perfectionist. And when you watch quarterbacks
• 1:05:05
  do these kind of things and you, you watch how they tally things
• 1:05:09
  and they look at numbers and, and statistics.
• 1:05:12
  He's that kind of guy. And I'm, I'm telling you,
• 1:05:14
  there's just something about him that caught my eye that I think
• 1:05:18
  I, I'm going all out. If I'm, I'm The Jets right now,
• 1:05:21
  I'm going all out to get him. I'm making that move.
• 1:05:24
  I, I, I looked at the numbers. If The Jets are drafting at 5,
• 1:05:27
  all they have to give up is next year's first to get the 3000
• 1:05:31
  points, cuz you need to get the 3000 points.
• 1:05:33
  You can give up a second this year and A and 1/5 next year and
• 1:05:38
  that'll get the deal done to move up from 5:00 to 5:00 to
• 1:05:41
  1:00 if they want. If they start at two or three,
• 1:05:44
  they would only have to give up A1 next year and maybe a two
• 1:05:47
  this year to get to get somebody like to move up and and get
• 1:05:52
  Mendoza. So I think that's if I'm if I'm
• 1:05:55
  The Jets, I'm making that move. I know I I wrote a story about
• 1:05:58
  Joe Burrow that he could be available.
• 1:06:00
  I'm not taking a chance with Joe Burrow because he's an injury
• 1:06:02
  prone player. This guy, this guy plays hurt.
• 1:06:05
  This guy. It goes out there week by week
• 1:06:07
  and just astounds you on on the way He plays over there in
• 1:06:11
  Indiana and and and just an absolutely amazing personality.
• 1:06:15
  I'm telling you right now, slam dunk guys.
• 1:06:17
  NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports that Michael Parson
• 1:06:20
  suffered A torn ACL in the Packers 34 to 26 loss to the
• 1:06:26
  Broncos. Rappaport added that the Parson
• 1:06:28
  surgery will require him to miss at least nine months, meaning he
• 1:06:33
  will miss some or maybe perhaps many regular season games.
• 1:06:38
  In 2026, Parson suffered a non contact injury to his left knee
• 1:06:44
  while rushing the quarterback and went down immediately,
• 1:06:47
  grabbing his knee. At the time of the injury.
• 1:06:50
  Parson Larson's was third in the NFL with 79 total pressures and
• 1:06:55
  tied for third in the NFL with 12.5 sacks.
• 1:07:00
  He was rated as a the second best edge rusher in football
• 1:07:05
  behind Miles Garrett before the injury.
• 1:07:07
  With defensive tackle Devante Wyatt also out for the year,
• 1:07:13
  Rashawn Gary is the only other player who has more than two
• 1:07:18
  sacks this season. The Packers defense, with the
• 1:07:21
  addition of Parsons this year, has been a top ten in both yards
• 1:07:26
  points allowed per game. Parsons new four year $186
• 1:07:31
  million contract will begin next season.
• 1:07:34
  Coming off an ACL injury, the Packers are sitting at 9, four
• 1:07:40
  and one in second place behind the Chicago Bears, holding on to
• 1:07:45
  the last playoff spot in the NFC ahead of the 8:00 and 6:00
• 1:07:49
  Detroit Lions and seven and seven Carolina Panthers with
• 1:07:53
  three games left of the regular season.
• 1:07:56
  Losing Michael Parsons is absolutely going to be hurt,
• 1:08:01
  hurtful, and it might affect them sneaking into the playoffs.
• 1:08:06
  But the way Jordan Love has played over the last couple
• 1:08:09
  weeks and having Reed come back and the way Christian Watson's
• 1:08:14
  playing, I think that and Jacobs, I think this team has
• 1:08:18
  enough offense to drive them into the play offs.
• 1:08:23
  Now, the defensive side of the ball, you're right.
• 1:08:25
  Losing a guy like Devante Wyatt and losing a guy like Michael
• 1:08:30
  Parsons to that defense, which has been an elite defense all
• 1:08:33
  season long, yes, it hurts you. But this is a defense that
• 1:08:38
  played very well last year. Wasn't this the defense that
• 1:08:41
  went to an NFC title game last year?
• 1:08:43
  Weren't they? Didn't they go to an NFC title
• 1:08:45
  game? Let's show not the NFC title
• 1:08:47
  game. They went to the semis where
• 1:08:49
  they lost against the 49ers, right?
• 1:08:51
  Eagles. They lost.
• 1:08:52
  Against Eagles I I'm trying to remember because I over the last
• 1:08:55
  couple of years, Jordan Love has looked pretty good in the
• 1:08:57
  playoffs and looked very good in the second-half.
• 1:08:59
  So I'm trying to remember what year Jordan Love really made
• 1:09:03
  that run. But Jordan Love in the
• 1:09:06
  second-half of the season last two years has been pretty good.
• 1:09:10
  And I think Jordan Love is playing the best football of the
• 1:09:13
  season right now. Now the question is, are they
• 1:09:17
  going to be able to stop some of these offensive teams?
• 1:09:19
  If the Buccaneers sneak in and they're matched up against the
• 1:09:21
  Buccaneers, are they going to be able to play the Buccaneers,
• 1:09:24
  especially if the Buccaneers are the home team?
• 1:09:27
  Now we've seen Jordan Love has played better at home than he's
• 1:09:31
  played away. And Jordan Love and I, I'll say
• 1:09:35
  this again, I think the Bears are going to win out the NFC
• 1:09:40
  North. I think they're going to win.
• 1:09:42
  So I, I don't think there's any question that.
• 1:09:45
  And, and the Bears, the Packers already beat the Bears, but the
• 1:09:48
  Bears have a chance now to beat the Packers.
• 1:09:50
  Now without Michael Parsons, this could be a different
• 1:09:53
  defense that they played and Michael Parsons played very well
• 1:09:56
  against the Bears. So losing a player of this
• 1:09:59
  magnitude absolutely effects the way they're going to play
• 1:10:03
  defense. But I think that what we've seen
• 1:10:06
  over the last couple of years is what this offense could do.
• 1:10:10
  And the way Christian Watson is playing right now as a #1 and
• 1:10:14
  Jaden Reed coming back and, and the way they can spread out the
• 1:10:17
  ball, I I think they can absolutely sneak into the
• 1:10:20
  playoffs and make noise. I just losing a player that
• 1:10:24
  you're paying four years, 186 million to and losing them for
• 1:10:27
  practically the whole season next year, it hurts.
• 1:10:30
  It hurts and you put a lot of money into this.
• 1:10:32
  What are you doing you off season?
• 1:10:33
  Do you have enough money to add some defensive help?
• 1:10:37
  Hendrickson will be available this offseason.
• 1:10:39
  I don't they're definitely not going to have enough money
• 1:10:41
  because they're paying a guy like Michael Parsons $48
• 1:10:44
  million. So they're going to have to
• 1:10:46
  really spin the wheel, make the deal and and bring in a veteran
• 1:10:51
  guy that you hope you hit on. I just, I don't know if there's
• 1:10:54
  anybody out there that you can bring in in the offseason.
• 1:10:57
  And, and remember, the coach was on the hot seat a couple of
• 1:11:00
  weeks ago. People were talking about maybe
• 1:11:04
  firing, firing the coach in the offseason.
• 1:11:07
  So I, I don't know if the Packers miss, do they decide to
• 1:11:11
  move elsewhere when it comes to coaching or maybe the GM?
• 1:11:14
  So I, I don't know, I, I just, they put a lot of eggs in
• 1:11:18
  Michael Parsons pot, you know, put a lot of eggs in his basket.
• 1:11:21
  And now that Michael Parsons is out for the rest of the season
• 1:11:24
  and he's not going to make noise in the playoffs.
• 1:11:25
  And I, I told you guys, Michael Parsons is a great regular
• 1:11:28
  season player. He has not been a performing
• 1:11:32
  player in the playoffs. I wanted to see with this
• 1:11:35
  defense and this team, can he make noise in the playoffs for
• 1:11:37
  the first time in his career? And we're not going to see it
• 1:11:39
  for another year. We might not see it for another
• 1:11:41
  two years. So it's alarming to me when you
• 1:11:44
  put a lot of money into a 26 year old now that has torn his
• 1:11:48
  ACL and it might not be the same player coming back from an
• 1:11:52
  injury like this, no. And you?
• 1:11:53
  I worry about the long term more than I do with the short term.
• 1:11:56
  Like you were mentioning, they were -7 under the cap when they
• 1:11:59
  first traded for Parsons. So they really had to manipulate
• 1:12:01
  everything even just to get him there because Michael Parsons
• 1:12:04
  mentioned they were talking about with the trade.
• 1:12:06
  He mentioned I would definitely want to go there.
• 1:12:08
  I definitely want to sign there to be the come the highest paid
• 1:12:10
  defensive player in NFL history. And that's where, like you said,
• 1:12:12
  maybe there's some pressure on the GM to try to be creative
• 1:12:15
  with that kind of thing. If they can't figure out get
• 1:12:17
  better support and cast around that defense without him.
• 1:12:20
  That's already pretty injury prone as it is.
• 1:12:22
  How are they going to base on it long term?
• 1:12:24
  Now, in the short term, yeah, you might have been hard for
• 1:12:26
  them to win in the playoffs anyway with the Rams and the
• 1:12:28
  Seahawks having really good offensive lines.
• 1:12:29
  Like those are probably the two best teams in the NFC now.
• 1:12:33
  Again, if they beat the Bears, they still have a shot to win
• 1:12:35
  the division because they have the head to head tiebreaker.
• 1:12:37
  But Even so, like, is that really going to be so judging as
• 1:12:41
  are we're going to be a real Super Bowl threat?
• 1:12:42
  Everyone was jumping the Packers as being one of the big Super
• 1:12:46
  Bowl threats last year. I think a lot of people like
• 1:12:48
  them and the Eagles like second best 2 best teams in the NFC at
• 1:12:51
  the beginning of the year, that offense.
• 1:12:52
  Is a Super Bowl threat and and they're going to have to put up
• 1:12:55
  a lot of points. There's no question they're
• 1:12:57
  going to have to but to say that they can't win without Michael
• 1:13:00
  Parsons and even Wyatt that's that's crazy.
• 1:13:03
  They can they're going to have to dial it up.
• 1:13:05
  They're going to by the way, dial up.
• 1:13:06
  I could have used that. You're going to have to dial it
• 1:13:08
  up and and and put put the right you know what?
• 1:13:11
  I think the right nickel out there, the right dime play, the
• 1:13:15
  right percentages out there. Defensively, their secondary is
• 1:13:18
  still fairly good and they've played very well.
• 1:13:20
  And, and again, the Legion of Boom, if you remember those
• 1:13:24
  Seattle defenses, they had a pretty good front 7, but they
• 1:13:27
  weren't elite. They were good.
• 1:13:29
  It was their secondary which was elite.
• 1:13:32
  And right now, if you look at the Packers and where they're
• 1:13:34
  ranked as far as their secondary is concerned, they're in the top
• 1:13:37
  10. So to say that they can't win
• 1:13:39
  with this defense absolutely could.
• 1:13:42
  And they got a great running game.
• 1:13:43
  It's all about running the ball, controlling the clock and it.
• 1:13:46
  Does your quarterback show up in the big game?
• 1:13:48
  And Jordan Love, for the last two years, has shown up in the
• 1:13:51
  playoffs like the. The game you were mentioning
• 1:13:53
  with the 49ers too, his rookie, his first year as a starter,
• 1:13:56
  Yeah, like he played well in that game up until the third
• 1:13:58
  quarter. Yeah, just had one bad quarter.
• 1:13:59
  But yeah, they all played the 49ers.
• 1:14:01
  They probably. That was two years ago.
• 1:14:02
  Yeah, yeah, right. They.
• 1:14:03
  Probably should have won that game because there was that
• 1:14:05
  really bad call that went the Niners away and then I think it
• 1:14:08
  was a fourth down or something that the Packers, they beat the
• 1:14:10
  40. Niners that year, they go to the
• 1:14:12
  Super Bowl. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:14:13
  Possible because you also look at the Packers the way they
• 1:14:15
  played the Lions that year too. The Jordan Love is best game of
• 1:14:18
  the season on that thing. He was the best quarterback.
• 1:14:20
  He was the best quarterback in the playoffs that year, so.
• 1:14:23
  There's definitely possibilities where the offense, he ended up
• 1:14:25
  taking them and that's where you think you, you wonder, you have
• 1:14:28
  the dilemma of like trying to be able to run the ball and play
• 1:14:31
  ball control to give your defense rest or still try to go
• 1:14:33
  for the big plays. And that's where the coaching is
• 1:14:35
  going to come into a lot. And especially losing Wyatt too,
• 1:14:38
  like they're better against the run they've been in previous
• 1:14:40
  years. But it definitely hurts when you
• 1:14:42
  trade Clark and you're hoping why.
• 1:14:43
  I could take a leap, but now he's hurt too.
• 1:14:44
  But you're right, they have good.
• 1:14:46
  You're complaining about Kenny Clark?
• 1:14:47
  No, no, no, I'm saying. It just it's, it's a bad luck
• 1:14:50
  circumstance where he's also hurt too.
• 1:14:52
  He's the guy that's replacing Kenny Clark and he played very
• 1:14:55
  well this year. Probably a Pro Bowl caliber
• 1:14:57
  defensive tackle and he just he gets hurt too.
• 1:14:59
  But they're good. Middle of the field offensive
• 1:15:01
  line is a question, but they're skill players now.
• 1:15:03
  All being healthy outside of craft is great for them.
• 1:15:06
  No. I think you got hit the nail on
• 1:15:09
  that with it. You're not going to replace
• 1:15:12
  them, but can they still win? But I think Errol, you're right,
• 1:15:15
  they'll have to get a little bit more creative on on how they go
• 1:15:18
  about it because obviously having a threat like that and
• 1:15:21
  having, you know, your 1B player obviously being hurt.
• 1:15:23
  Well, I think I think it's just they're going to have to move
• 1:15:27
  and shake a little bit more than they would have to at at the
• 1:15:30
  point of having those guys. But like you said, they they've
• 1:15:34
  done it already and then adding him obviously was a huge
• 1:15:36
  component, but they're just going to have to be more
• 1:15:39
  creative on how they do it. But I mean, obviously with, with
• 1:15:43
  what they have, they they've proven that they can do it.
• 1:15:45
  It's just how are they going to maneuver around it And and what
• 1:15:49
  packages are they going to put together for them to see how far
• 1:15:53
  they can get? Are they are they going to get
• 1:15:54
  to where they want to get? Probably not, But I I think
• 1:15:58
  they're still going to be competitive.
• 1:16:00
  Oh, I think they. Can.
• 1:16:01
  As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers make
• 1:16:03
  a run. Everybody is quote, quoting what
• 1:16:07
  the coach has said after Michael Michael Parsons goes down.
• 1:16:10
  And and I don't know if anybody watched the media in the press
• 1:16:13
  conference. It was like somebody died in the
• 1:16:15
  room. It was like, the season's over.
• 1:16:18
  We're not making the playoffs. Like, come on, guys.
• 1:16:20
  This is still a quality team. This is still a good
• 1:16:22
  quarterback. This is still a team that can
• 1:16:24
  put up points. This is still a team that's
• 1:16:26
  quite capable, especially the way the Packers have played over
• 1:16:30
  the last two years in the second-half of the season to
• 1:16:32
  make a run in the playoffs. Jordan Love has been very good
• 1:16:36
  in the playoffs really since he started two years ago.
• 1:16:40
  I absolutely believe with the running game they have with
• 1:16:43
  Jacobs and the ability they have with Christian Watson,
• 1:16:46
  Christian, you know who's going to make himself a lot of money
• 1:16:48
  in the offseason, it's Christian Watson and Beth.
• 1:16:50
  Guess what? The Packers are not going to be
• 1:16:51
  able to pay him. So guess where he's going?
• 1:16:54
  He's going to a team that's going to be willing to spend and
• 1:16:57
  is looking for a #1 because he's proven this year he can be a
• 1:17:00
  number 1. So I'm telling you right now, if
• 1:17:03
  I to me, if, if the Packers have any chance and won a chance to
• 1:17:08
  win a Super Bowl. Remember in 2010 when the
• 1:17:11
  Packers won their their first Super Bowl since Brett Favre
• 1:17:15
  and, and it was the only championship Aaron Rodgers won?
• 1:17:18
  It was the IT was the they were the first wild card team.
• 1:17:21
  I think they were they were 16. They were 60.
• 1:17:23
  They were the first 60 to win a Super Bowl.
• 1:17:26
  OK, where were the right now? As of right now, where are the
• 1:17:29
  Packers sitting the last spot? They're in the last.
• 1:17:32
  Spot and the Packers had that year, they had three major
• 1:17:37
  injuries on the defensive side of the ball.
• 1:17:39
  I remember it. And what did the Packers do?
• 1:17:43
  Young Aaron Rodgers took them all the way to the Super Bowl
• 1:17:45
  and surprise shocked the world as they win the Super Bowl.
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  I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers could do something like
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  that where everybody thinks they're call, they're counting
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  them out. Michael Parsons down, up,
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  season's over and coach could be out of here.
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  Because I remember, remember that Mike McCarthy, I remember
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  they were talking about maybe firing Mike McCarthy at the end
• 1:18:07
  of the season. I remember it like it was
• 1:18:09
  yesterday. And then they sneak into the
• 1:18:11
  playoffs and they make a run. So I'm just saying I, I go back
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  and I look and I kind of try to compare things.
• 1:18:17
  This is very comparable to that 2010 Aaron Rodgers team that
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  went all the way. I mean, we've had players on
• 1:18:23
  this show that were a part of that team and they remember that
• 1:18:25
  like it was yesterday where everybody counted them out and
• 1:18:28
  they went on that run. So yeah, they were guiding a.
• 1:18:30
  Tiebreaker with the Giants and Bucks were both 10 and six like
• 1:18:33
  I remember. I remember.
• 1:18:35
  I remember it like it was yesterday.
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  And why do I remember it? Because that was when The Jets
• 1:18:38
  were actually good. So The Jets could have.
• 1:18:42
  Lost to their future quarterback and their roster.
• 1:18:44
  So that was Super Bowl, that was that.
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  Was when The Jets actually had a pretty good team, really good
• 1:18:49
  roster. They had Rex Ryan, not Mark
• 1:18:52
  Sanchez, Mr. Buffalo himself. But hey it.
• 1:18:54
  Was a pretty good team. Anyways, I remember Alan Felly
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  Feneca, who's a Hall of Fame, I believe is going to be a Hall of
• 1:19:00
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• 1:19:30
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• 1:19:40
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• 1:19:53
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• 1:19:56
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• 1:20:00
  new year. So we spread out the shows and
• 1:20:02
  we get all the content out. Speedy, who do we have on?
• 1:20:04
  I believe Jabba has our guest for.
• 1:20:05
  Thursday. There you go.
• 1:20:07
  Who do we have? We got B Hoke.
• 1:20:09
  There you. Go.
• 1:20:11
  We got Brian Hoke coming on the show.
• 1:20:13
  He was out there at the winter meetings.
• 1:20:17
  What are the Yankees do? Are the Yankees making moves?
• 1:20:19
  Is it going to happen? Are they gonna sign Cody
• 1:20:22
  Bellinger? They're gonna sign the Japanese
• 1:20:24
  pitcher that everybody keeps saying the Yankees are favored
• 1:20:26
  to get. Where did the Yankees go?
• 1:20:28
  Because how Steinburn A bitching and moaning.
• 1:20:33
  Like how you make enough money. I buy hats every single week and
• 1:20:38
  I'm giving you guys money. Stop bitching and moaning about
• 1:20:41
  spending money. Go out there and spend some
• 1:20:44
  money. Mucho De Niro.
• 1:20:46
  That's all I'm going to say about that.
• 1:20:48
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