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Dammit Janet: The Valley Pt 2 Recap · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, Rain, draw from today's episode of
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King. We are recapping part two of
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  Speaker 1: The Valley Reunion and I am back with my amazing assistant, Livedy.
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  Speaker 2: Gang. Thank you for having me back. I'm excited. The
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  Speaker 2: first one was fun and I'm excited to dive into
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  Speaker 2: episode two of the reunion of The Valley.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Yeah, yeah, Lizzy, this was a very entertaining reunion.
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  Speaker 1: The Valley really is one of those shows, Lizzie, where
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  Speaker 1: I can't keep my eyes off of it. It's like
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  Speaker 1: a train wreck. It's sort of like the train wreck
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  Speaker 1: of seeing Pamela Anderson.
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  Speaker 3: Day are you where? What's happening to say? Liam Ne said,
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  Speaker 3: being a couple.
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  Speaker 2: I am invested in it. I'm invested in too. Am
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  Speaker 2: ashamed to say that I have not watched her documentary
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  Speaker 2: that came out, and so I did us to the
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  Speaker 2: people the other day. I was like, does she not
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  Speaker 2: wear makeup? Sure enough? No, But I think she's beautiful,
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  Speaker 2: I mean gorgeous beautiful. I think it's so interesting to
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  Speaker 2: see pictures of her back in the day, who she dated,
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  Speaker 2: who she was, and then seeing her like in Puppy
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  Speaker 2: Loves Watch What Happens Live, it was so refreshing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, first of all, she's gorgeous about makeup, and I
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  Speaker 1: watched the I'm obsessed with her, and so it's honest.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently I watched her documentary on Netflix a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and that's when I instantly was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: she is something. So look when I say trained wreck
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  Speaker 1: range John's I domin like it's a bad thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it's something shocking, it's unexpected, and I just
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  Speaker 1: can't keep my eyes off of it. But they look
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  Speaker 1: to be madly in love. So there were love to
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  Speaker 1: each other than Jackson Brittany. I can tell you that.
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  Speaker 2: Good transition there. But you know what is so great
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  Speaker 2: to me about this show is how much these cast
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  Speaker 2: members actually want to be there. I mean from the
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  Speaker 2: conversations like on off camera to even bringing up like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you didn't really like your edit last year, the storylines.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they really want to be a part of
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  Speaker 2: this show, which you know does have us glued to it,
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  Speaker 2: and you can't look away because they are living their
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  Speaker 2: their real lives for black and better words, but like,
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  Speaker 2: they really want to be on the show. They really
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  Speaker 2: want to fight with each other, they really want to
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  Speaker 2: find some juice and dig it up, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I think that that's something that makes a good reality
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  Speaker 2: TV show.
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  Speaker 1: No. One thousand percent, one thousand percent Listen, they're all
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  Speaker 1: invested in the show. And we just got to begin
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  Speaker 1: with Jacks because I'm going somewhere with that statement you made, Lizzie.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to them loving the show, it's sad, although.
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  Speaker 3: To me it's the right thing to do for him
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  Speaker 3: to be off the show.
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  Speaker 1: But it's said that when it comes to Jacks, you
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  Speaker 1: could tell this was his second win at reality television,
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  Speaker 1: you know, getting fired from Vanda Pump Rules and now
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  Speaker 1: stepping away. In ear quotes from the Valley, you could
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  Speaker 1: tell that somebody was in Jackson's ear prior to this
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  Speaker 1: reunion about apologizing, and I have to you know, agree
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  Speaker 1: with Brittney.
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  Speaker 3: I also thought it was.
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  Speaker 1: Performative to get your thoughts on that. But first, let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about the fact that Jack's has been diagnosed bipolar.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't been taking his medication. Brittany said. He has
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  Speaker 1: made multiple excuses for his behavior due to him not
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  Speaker 1: taking his medication, and that was something that really drove
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  Speaker 1: her in terms of.
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  Speaker 3: Leaving the relationship.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to Jack's situation, did you also feel
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  Speaker 1: like throughout this reunion parts one and two he was
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  Speaker 1: really going into it trying to redeem himself.
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, I mean you could see that from a
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  Speaker 2: million feet away. You know, Brittany brought up you didn't
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  Speaker 2: fight for me. Unfortunately, the reunion is not the place
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  Speaker 2: to fight. You've already lost her, you know, fighting in
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  Speaker 2: to me. What she means was, you didn't go get
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  Speaker 2: the help, you did take your medication, you didn't show
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  Speaker 2: up for me as my husband, and you really didn't
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  Speaker 2: show up very great as a father either. And I
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  Speaker 2: hate to say that, you know, and he didn't fight
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  Speaker 2: for her. This was his last chance. Also, let me
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  Speaker 2: tell you, CHROs, we would have never gotten an episode
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  Speaker 2: like this if it weren't for a reunion, because no
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  Speaker 2: one can hold him accountable. Like we saw the guys
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  Speaker 2: try to do it, we saw him try to do
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  Speaker 2: it with Britney too, but then he turned around and
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  Speaker 2: gas lit her. So unfortunately we would we never would
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  Speaker 2: hear these things until a reunion. And that also means
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  Speaker 2: it's too late.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it is certainly too late.
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  Speaker 1: Look, it was painfully obvious that he was trying to
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  Speaker 1: save up his job. And what is so sad about
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  Speaker 1: the tight situation is, Look, I don't want to ever
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  Speaker 1: see anybody, you know, being a destitute situation When it
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  Speaker 1: comes to Jack's, my belief is the fact that he
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  Speaker 1: can't handle fame. He can't handle it, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: definitely think in my opinion, right, I think fame brings
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  Speaker 1: out the.
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  Speaker 3: Demons that he's trying to work through.
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  Speaker 1: And again, I'm not sure what happened to him after
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  Speaker 1: you know Vada Pum Rules, what that break was like
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  Speaker 1: for him, Lizzie, Am I wrong? He wasn't in the news, right,
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  Speaker 1: he was no Like the moment Jacks was away from
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  Speaker 1: Bad the Pump Rules, we didn't hear anything from.
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  Speaker 2: Him they had a baby, they were living you know,
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  Speaker 2: like a life of husband and wife. They bought a house,
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  Speaker 2: they moved, you know. They Yeah, you're right, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: hear anything very negative. Now, who's to say that he
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  Speaker 2: wasn't going out and you know, doing whatever he does
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  Speaker 2: at the bars and stuff like that. But yet you're right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the platform elevates it, right, And I think
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  Speaker 2: that I think you just said it. You said he
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  Speaker 2: was trying to save his job. He wasn't trying to
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  Speaker 2: save his family.
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  Speaker 1: He was not trying to save his family. He was
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  Speaker 1: trying to save his job. That's what it was. Lizzie
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  Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head, Come on home, depot.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly my clocket. No, that's exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the reason why because like even when Andy
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  Speaker 1: said I've never seen you hold you some accountaboat, Brittany's like,
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  Speaker 1: fuck that that's performative.
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  Speaker 3: I'll buy it.
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  Speaker 1: And for me, again, I'm not here to diagnose jacks,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm here to be a person who has worked
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  Speaker 1: with talent where it's sort of like Kim Richards, how
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  Speaker 1: it was said but not said that And I love
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  Speaker 1: Kim Richards. I know it was said and not said that. Look,
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  Speaker 1: there's something going on here and maybe the camera isn't
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  Speaker 1: the best place for healing. I'll just leave it at that.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I feel like with Jacks. I want Jackson
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  Speaker 1: in real life to get the best help he needs.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the show and the fame, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: does Jack's any favors unless he's willing to do the work.
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  Speaker 3: And based on his behavior on the show.
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  Speaker 1: After leaving rehab, it was apparent and evident that he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't doing the work.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, and I think that it would be different
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  Speaker 2: if he was absolutely needed.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: First season, we transitioned from a few of the vander
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  Speaker 2: Pump casts to the Valley. I mean that's necessary, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we saw him with his family where they
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  Speaker 2: are now, and then really he was absent quite a
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  Speaker 2: bit from this past season, and it held. We talked
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  Speaker 2: about this last time too, you know, we it held
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  Speaker 2: its own. It was okay. And so I think that
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  Speaker 2: that's a really big just reality hit in general of like,
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  Speaker 2: oh that's kind of a bummer, but okay, no problem.
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  Speaker 2: We have Janet, we have Danny, we have Brittany, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that performativeness was just comical.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't believe the word that he said. I hate
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  Speaker 2: to kick him when he's down of you know, just
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  Speaker 2: not having this platform anymore. But it was it was
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  Speaker 2: it was filler fluff that we needed to hear because
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  Speaker 2: we've never heard him say yes, I did that. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I shouldn't have said that to Brittany. I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't have treated her that way, but no one believes him.
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  Speaker 2: I bet he says that to her every other day
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  Speaker 2: on the phone. You know, she's done it before. So
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  Speaker 2: it was performative. That was nice. I definitely didn't think
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  Speaker 2: it was a waste of an episode. I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: hear it, but then I did feel really sad in
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  Speaker 2: my stomach of like, okay, but then after this, he's
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  Speaker 2: probably gonna call and scream at her tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: You made it a little bid.
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  Speaker 2: You made me look like an asshole. I've done it.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone took your side. You didn't tell the truth like
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  Speaker 2: he makes her just as crazy.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: So I know that there were faults on both sides,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, performative was the exact right word.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And listen, kudos to Brittany for being
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  Speaker 1: able as a woman, a wife and a mother to
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  Speaker 1: clock it and then for her to really choose herself
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  Speaker 1: in the moment. Because even when Andy asked him, are
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  Speaker 1: you still in love with Britney.
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, move on, I'm like, what the angela basta?
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  Speaker 2: Yes or no? Did you like? That's all she wanted
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  Speaker 2: to hear. I mean she but you know, she made
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  Speaker 2: a really good point there too, like to to that
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  Speaker 2: response was it's hard to leave when you are not
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  Speaker 2: out of love. I had to leave. I didn't leave
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  Speaker 2: because I was out of love. I left because I
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  Speaker 2: had to, you know, and that and it does take
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  Speaker 2: a lot. And I also I just keep playing back,
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  Speaker 2: you know, anytime if she if she slips and falls back,
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  Speaker 2: like last week they talked about, oh well we went
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  Speaker 2: to see where chuck e cheese. They went somewhere, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and then they went to eat together. And it's like,
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  Speaker 2: of course, or the aquarium, of course, because that's your family,
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  Speaker 2: that was your husband, that was your person and the
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  Speaker 2: father of your child. Like it's okay if she slips
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  Speaker 2: back a little and was like, that was a really
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  Speaker 2: fun day, but you ultimately you you ruined this and
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  Speaker 2: that's what Zach keeps trying to say, you know, he's
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  Speaker 2: trying to get words in, and he's like that you ruined,
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  Speaker 2: that you left, that you destroyed, and that is just
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  Speaker 2: in Britain looked so beautiful, didn't she. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: she has ever looked. The yellow was gorgeous, her hair
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  Speaker 2: and it's okay if she has her tough days.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but no, Lizzie, is what you said. At
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day. She did not fall in
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  Speaker 1: love with him. She had to fall out of like
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  Speaker 1: living with him, She had to fall olive being so
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  Speaker 1: called dependent with him, the fact that he wasn't paying
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  Speaker 1: the mortgage and they put the house up while he
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  Speaker 1: was subtling his ire as death, like all of.
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  Speaker 3: These things that she had to do.
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  Speaker 1: I think the beauty that we all saw in Brittany
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  Speaker 1: at the reunion was a woman who feels maybe free,
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  Speaker 1: like to just free from the drama. And even when
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  Speaker 1: she said, yes, let's talk about my son because that
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  Speaker 1: makes me happy, I want to move on from Jack's
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  Speaker 1: that to me was definitive in the sense of like
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  Speaker 1: she is overhim, like she's.
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  Speaker 2: Done and as she should be. And then it probably
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  Speaker 2: would have embarrassed me a little to hear him say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, going back to trying to save his job.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I miss you guys. I don't get to
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  Speaker 2: hang out with you guys anymore. Kristin, I wasn't invited
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  Speaker 2: to your baby shower. First of all, what man wants
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  Speaker 2: to go to a baby shower? Okay? But I do
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  Speaker 2: know it is a fund these days my husband, not mine.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, hey, your husband didn't go to your
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  Speaker 3: baby shower.
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  Speaker 2: No he didn't, not no, but yes, I know a
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  Speaker 2: few of my guy friends were like, oh, we want
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  Speaker 2: to come. And then they said where is Where is he?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, he he's a home. His
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  Speaker 2: family came. How about that?
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  Speaker 1: There, he's at home and I prefer that way, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: But he needed to leave the car when we got home. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: but nat in itself, like he said, I want to
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  Speaker 2: be a part of these things. You want to go
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  Speaker 2: film the scenes with your friends?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but that's the reason, Lizzie, that's the reason why
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  Speaker 1: go go got got shut.
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  Speaker 2: Not Hey, I want to come over and bring dinner
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  Speaker 2: to you and Cruz Brittany, Hey, I want to go
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  Speaker 2: to this baby shower. And Kristen, I could not have
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  Speaker 2: loved her more when she fucked up like that. She said,
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  Speaker 2: if you're nice to her, you can come if you
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  Speaker 2: treat her well. And it's like we're talking to a
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  Speaker 2: child here. That's what I do with my baby. If
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  Speaker 2: you clean up your toys, you can eat strawberries.
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  Speaker 3: Are these organic strawberries?
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  Speaker 2: And really to meet strawberries whenever he wants. Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, like, what are we doing? If you're
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  Speaker 2: nice to her, you can come to my party. I
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  Speaker 2: just that is so he wants, he wants his job,
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  Speaker 2: and and I am interested. We're going to go back
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  Speaker 2: and look this up, Carlos. The announcement that was made.
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  Speaker 2: They shot this in April early April, I think you
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  Speaker 2: and I have to it was early. It was.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like four episodes aired when
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  Speaker 1: they shot this, like April.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was. It was.
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  Speaker 2: It was April, it was, And so I wonder where that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, where that came in to like afterwards, maybe
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  Speaker 2: he was let go. I don't know, but it did
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  Speaker 2: seem like it was his last plea right, oh.
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  Speaker 1: One thousand listen because remember, okay, you know I'm a journalist.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Portia.
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  Speaker 1: The reunion for the Valley Season two was filmed on
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  Speaker 1: May second.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, which ago, why.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, let's see you know, let's let's let's let's let's
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  Speaker 3: do our job. Rain drops isn't happening in real time
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  Speaker 3: to suspense.
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  Speaker 1: This is crazy, this is reality with the King, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: He announced that Lizzie hold On on July sixteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Then on a podcast. Yeah, yeah, two months he tried.
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  Speaker 2: I got he tried.
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  Speaker 1: Oh listen, he definitely tried. And I think that they
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  Speaker 1: also were trying to make sure he could redeem himself.
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  Speaker 1: My thing is, I don't know if something occurred. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know they saw the episode, because look, Jackson still
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  Speaker 1: saying he stepped.
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  Speaker 3: Away from it. So you know, on the record, he's
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  Speaker 3: saying it was his decision.
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  Speaker 1: We're alleging that perhaps this could have been everyone around
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  Speaker 1: him saying you have to step away. Because one thing
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  Speaker 1: we know, like when it comes to the housewives, when
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  Speaker 1: they are relieve of their duties, they get they get away.
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  Speaker 1: It's very nice. They get to make their own announcement.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm choosing peace over.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, got.
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  Speaker 2: It, I'm choosing my family, Yes, and they always have
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  Speaker 2: other opportunities coming up to.
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  Speaker 3: Vote that we never see. Okay, so let's move on
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  Speaker 3: to a little shade.
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  Speaker 1: Let's move on to uh Jesse ed Michelle who went
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  Speaker 1: for the juggler.
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  Speaker 3: Lizzie.
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  Speaker 1: Jesse Michelle are arguing over the accusation of Jessie saying
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  Speaker 1: that Michelle.
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  Speaker 3: Cheated on him.
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  Speaker 1: She admitted that she did kiss another man while she
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  Speaker 1: was married, and Jesse said that has always been the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate no no for him. Michelle said that listen, she
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel, you know, like she was getting anything out
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  Speaker 1: of the relationship, and you know she fell.
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  Speaker 3: On the arms, Lizzie of another man. Are you Michelle
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  Speaker 3: in this?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm not saying I don't want to see them
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  Speaker 2: on my TV. I'm team. I don't care they shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be together they I'm honestly, I watched it like this, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Lizzie.
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  Speaker 2: Because of how poorly he treated her last season, how
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  Speaker 2: poorly he treated her this season. And I like Jesse.
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  Speaker 2: I think that he's a funny.
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  Speaker 3: Person on the podcast, right, Like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so endearing too. I mean, I think we got
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  Speaker 2: off of that and we were like, all right, I
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  Speaker 2: we Jessey fans like it was, but that's what you
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  Speaker 2: aim to do. Anyways, you know, we let him, you
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  Speaker 2: let him talk and and it was such a good
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  Speaker 2: it was a great interview, which is why I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: okay to both sides, like do your thing. I I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I don't doubt that Jesse messed around as well,
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  Speaker 2: But I also just don't think he ever really liked
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  Speaker 2: her from from the two years that we've seen them
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  Speaker 2: on the screen. May I remember their opening scene, I
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, they live in this house together.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: She really begged, I feel like, for his attention. And
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that that there's there's something wrong, you know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: if you go outside of your marriage for anything. And
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: so I think that her first step where she did
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: wrong was talking to another man about her relationship. She
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: says that she didn't until only once. But you know
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: that that's where you let a threshold come in where
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: it's not supposed to do. You know, you break that
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and you and you you start to fall out of
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: love with the person. But I don't really know how
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: much in love they were, Like I said, you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I was Michelle's talked about on podcasts before about how
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: isolating the pandemic was for them too as a couple.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: She was also pregnant, she just had a baby, and
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: they just didn't really seem to be on the same page.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: And I think that they're both incredibly attractive people, and
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, I think that they if
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: they weren't attracted to each other, then then they should
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: find someone.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Cookie two attractive people in a relationship, and if you
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: motherfuckers aren't attracted to each other, that there's a big
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: issue there, right.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: And they have a civil child. But he was mean
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to her, please, I mean, he was mean to her.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: It was what I love Jesse. I love Jesse. He
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: was mean to her. He admitted to it. He was
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: definitely mean to her. And listen, the pandemic sort of
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: brought out everybody's ulnerability, right in the sense of especially
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: if you live with your significant other.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: It was the moment of do we like each other?
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Which is why so many couples broke up in the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: middle of the pandemic, because they're like, we don't have
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: any distractions to.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Sort of keep us company.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: We have to sit in this talk to each other
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and deal with each other.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: And look when it comes to Michelle, I'm with you.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not excusing a married woman kissing another guy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: But what I will say is if she this is
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: one thing I wish could.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Have been asked, if she let him know how she
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: was feeling, like I do feel like you're distant.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I do feel like you're X Y and Z I
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like this?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: She let him know, and if he didn't change his behavior,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: then that's one thing. You know, she gave him like
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a hits up, like, look, I'm feeling this way, what's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: going on? But as obvious that Jesse is upset about it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: But what was funny to me is Michelle said, oh, really,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: cheating is your thig? After you said you wanted to divorce,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you actually started seeing a married woman.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, WHOA.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Well, we all said whoe with you? Probably ten times
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: because the pause that he took to try to think
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: in his brain who he was, what her name?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: It begins with an A. He's like, oh my ex girlfriend.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I said, oh my ex girlfriend, and it's like what okay, yeah,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: and she said yeah, who's married? And he said something
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: about twenty five years And I was like, can you
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: have to do with anything.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: He has been married in twenty five years, and I'm like,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I'm so old.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: She right, So I don't know if that meant like
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: technically she's still married because she never got the divorce finalized.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I was, I'm assuming that's what you've been okay. So
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it was definitely sort of like the semantics of it all.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But Lizzy, you're fuddy. He dagged when she clocked that information.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: That revealed it to all of us. So I'm like,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: look here, Jesse, you can't say cheating is your thing
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: when you're sleeping with a married woman, but look at
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: his offense if she is divorced, seeing it is not finalized.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: These are two strange married people.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Now that I agree with. And that's and that's what
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: everyone has been saying about Jackson Brittany too. You know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: anytime that there was like, oh, well, yeah, we've got
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: girls over, you're going on dates, all of the chatter
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: on the couches on from both sides, they say, well
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: they're separated, they're getting a divorce, like they're not together anymore.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: But you know, you do know, and we talked about
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: this two weeks ago that Michelle and the Honeyman broke up. Yes, yeah, yeh,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: so just right after she moved in with him, or
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: announced that she moved in with him. So I'm sure
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Jesse is having a field.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Day with that, and having a field day with a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: lot of other suitors because wait, are.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: They of sup? Well, Lizzie, are they still married? Technically?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I feel like they are divorced.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Let's find out. I don't like I don't think it
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: was finalized.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Lizzie, they've been separated. Yeah, twenty twenty three split. Oh,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: which is interesting. Okay, No they're no, they're not divorced yet.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you go. It's difficult.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Oh they said that they're nowhere close to being divorced. Also,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: did you hear last last week that he's representing himself?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: And he had the nerve to say he said, yeah,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I spoke to my attorney and all the girls. So
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: what does that mean? You spoke to yourself. That's and
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: that was Michelle's point. She was like, this all could
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: go much quicker if you were not representing yourself. So
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: he said he has a friend who is an attorney.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that's going to go just swimmingly. But but
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: they they are very much like I separated. I don't
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: think either of them obviously we saw it with with
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Jesse or with Michelle and the honeyman, they would not
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: have a problem dating other people, like yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So to add some levity to the tension that they
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: both had. I think is funny that Jesse had to
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: clear up how he got money sent from the gay guy,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Like why do you even.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Break that up?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Like, Michelle, you knew what you were doing, You knew
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: what you did, and you knew what you were insinuating.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So Jesse said, a friend of theirs, who was actually
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: at their baby shower happens to be a gay guy,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: and he zelled him some money on his birthday.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: But she was like, who said it was anything.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: More totally different than what she insinuated, right, I mean
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: she did what she insinuated at that winery, which looked hot.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: It looked so hot. I was like, like they just wanted.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: She got up and left and she screamed at him,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and I was like, yeah, that seemed like something else
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: what we heard on that reading couch. We're all like, okay,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that was a birthday present your friends, Like if my
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: friends are having a bad day, oh, venmullum, some coffee
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: mine and it's a bunch of girls. So say what
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: you on.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: But no, well, the best part to be listening was
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Zach said it wasn't me Like, let's let's get that straight.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: So speaking of Zach, listen, I like Zach. I think
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Zach is hilarious. I think he's he's an amazing character
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: on the show. Now we do have to get into
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the awful thing that he did say to Janet. And look,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I know that Janet, miss Jackson, if you're nasty, it's
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: not everyone's favorite, but no woman deserves to be told
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the way Zach said it.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Again, in his defense, he said he blacked out.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: He doesn't remember it, but Zach said that he wishes
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Janet have a miscarriage.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: He apologized for it. Look, I'll be honest with you,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Sure that's something that if I I was Janet, I
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: would ever get over like I to me, to me,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I think those are fighting words, and whether you were
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: drowned blacked out, I just don't think an apology.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Would ever live up to that.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: That that statement not being a part of my memory
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: bank as I see this person.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that was really stomach turning for
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: him as well to admit that, because I was under
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the impression that that what they were talking about with
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: this whole miscarriage situation was what we saw at the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: end of last season, which was this is no better.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: I would like to preface it with that with this,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: but I thought that it was when they were all
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: at Jacks's Bar the season finale, and and someone and
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: she was stressed out because she and she and Zach
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: were fighting. Jen and Zach were fighting, and she left
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: and one of the other girls they were talking to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Zach and they said, and you know, a high, high
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: stress environment like this, that could cause her to miss
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: carry And he said, I don't care. That is terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: But that's what I thought that they had been talking about.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And for for him to actually say, you know, out
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: of his mouth apparently I said that I hope that
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: she miscarried. That is that's really sad and really painful
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: for Janet, for Janet's husband and for everyone, but also
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: for him to sit there and admit, you know, on
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the stage, I thought that the whole thing was sad
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and uncomfortable, and you know, there's really no other words
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: for that it's sad and she has every right to
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: not move forward with him, but she seemed like she
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: was trying to.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, lit this, she's better than me, and look.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm all about forgiveness and and all of the those things.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But in his defense, he did seem sincere I would
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: like to see the work that needs to be done
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to repair that friendship. Look, we have seen in this
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: reunion that when it comes to Zach, his favorite by
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: far is Brittany. Yes, and he like like he like
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Britty belongs to him. He's like, Brittany's my friend, That's
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: my girl. That's all he cares about. He's just like
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: this is this is who I need, This is what
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I need. And everybody around him is trying to figure out, like, Okay,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: what's going on here because the dynamic between him Brittany
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Janet Kristen. Did you give a sense that what the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: girls were saying that he only wants to be friends
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: with not only but his friendship with Brittany seems to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: be the one he cares about the most that his
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: friends just with the other girls.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's nervous that his beef with Janet is
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: going to make Brittany pull away, and he does not
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: want that, you know, That's what he is. He is
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: worried and he feels what she has said, that she
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: will always take Janet's side, even though he is this
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: hometown friend, has been her friend for a long time.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: And I think that he sees this like full apart
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: of their relationship if things go too left, and they
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: really have gone too left with Janet, you know, and
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: that's tough to be a friend in the middle of
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: that too. And I think that Brittany, I think, I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: honestly think that Brittany, in her soul, deep down, I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: think that she is just a really lovable, kind person.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: She loves her friends, and it's hard to you know,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: it does seem very surface with Zach at the beginning
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: of the season, because it's like, kind of what do
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: you what do you say after you've just said this
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: really terrible thing to my other friend. So I think
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: that that their relationship makes Zach nervous.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gread you hit thenother head there again. One thing
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: about Janet is the fact that in this reunion Lizzie,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: she was being accused of being a different person on
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: camera than she is.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Quote unquote in real.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Life, Christen called her out, saying, look, Jane's cool as shit.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: She's a funk girl.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: But the moment they started filming, they said, who the
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: fuck is this woman? You know, Christen said it, even
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Jesse said it. Jesse said that Janet is manipulative. Do
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: you see that as you watch the show, Lizzie, that
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Janet is in her villain era? Listen, what we did
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: say is the fact that Janet is the former assistant
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of Camera Diaz. She's a huge fanbout somebody. But I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: don't know, it makes me tickle that she, like was
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the assistant to Camera Diaz.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's everything personally. Listen, Like what was it
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: like to her dating Benji? Like?
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Is she cool in the carriage? You know what I mean?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Like you're going to be like, are you the Corriccie
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: best friends?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Why? Ha? Has she acted in twenty years?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I would to know so much bout camerad as, But
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I digress.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: That's what they're gonna say about me when I joined
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: the Real Housewives of Atlanta, They're say was the King's
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: former assistant?
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: I was, Lizzy?
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Tell them all the great stuff that's all true. Do
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you think Jenna acts differently on camera? Just based on
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: her behavior and what Krista and Jessie was saying.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go out on a limb and say no,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: because if she was this big of a fan before,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: she's always been in it, you know what I mean.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: She's always if you like this stuff, you're always a
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: stir of the pot, you know, I mean, yeah, yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think that it's different now that
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: there are cameras on her. I don't think she is different.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: That's the thing.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Look, and I also think this you and our producers, right,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: so we know when it comes to reality stars.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Hey, look I'm mad at it. Just be honest.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Here, when you are on camera filming a theme, you're
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: getting activated, you know, like like like in normal life,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: you're probably speaking a different tone. You probably won't pry
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: as much. You probably you probably won't ask a tough question.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: But you know, look, I have two hours. In this scene,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Lizzy called out the fact that ah It's the winery
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: was hot as shit. Nobody wants to be in the heat,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: not delivering a good scene. They want to go home.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: They want to give back to their lives.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: So I think Janet just understands the assignment. I agree
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: with you. I think I think she understands the assignment.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: And I'm not mad at it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think, yeah, me neither. I mean, there there
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: has to be a villain, right that that we like
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: the villains, and I think that she was the same way.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think when you roll with that crew anyways,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: you know, it's good friends with Shena blah blah. I
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: think that she always heard all of this gossip, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: or all of the drama going on on vandor pump rolls,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: and I think she was just as invested. And I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: think that if the cameras were on her, then I
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: think she did.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: The same thing for sure.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because listen, you have to be really
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: good at your job to come with the line calling
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Danny Danny darkoh I know.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: And she was like, I think that's much better than
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: dark side Danny. Like they stop saying about.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: You, Janet, you have a fan of me, bitch. I
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: like it. I like it. I love We're fan all
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: my Lizzy's at the episode at all.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: It is it is, you know in this and I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: would like to really fast go back and say, I
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: think it's kind of the same as whenever they said
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: this is this is not the same friend that we
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: had off camera. I think that correlates exactly, poor Senshamia.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: It's always been your safe friend. Yeah, there is just
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: now a camera.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, that's the thing. That's the thing. No,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that's true. But that's a really good point. That's a
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: good point.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: You know. Look, when it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Comes to Danny, maybe I'm the minority or the majority.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure, Lizzie. I I have a soft spot
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: for Danny.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: You don't think he didn't and you think he did
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: something wrong. You think that he addressed it, and it's like,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: move on.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I think this he gives me a very nice guy.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I think in real life, Danny is that brand you
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: in college who was like the fun friend, right, like
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: like who was.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: The fun friend?
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Who was the friend that's sort of like you know,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: you would do like, you know, the liquor games.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: With, the one that you would just go to all
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: the parties with.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I think Danny is like every jocks bff, you know,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: maybe look girls on campus.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well yeah, I mean okay, I think
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Nia is stunning and I think he needs to hang
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: right on to her.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Oh baby, Clearly, Danny, you want with nia baby because
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I want to see the ex girlfriend you have one?
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Clear?
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: But yes, yeah, he's a he's a fun, nice guy.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, And I think when it comes to his drinking.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I said this before, I said again, I don't think
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: he has a drinking problem, per se, I think he
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I think I think he.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Drinks and he's a bad drunk.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I do too. I think it's a bad drunk and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: does a dip between him and Jack's to me, like, look,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: even Jack's apologizing to him, which I was like Jack's,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: This apology tour draw me off at the next stop.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I'm off this train. I can't take the tour to me.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, you should apologize, I get it, but I just
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: don't feel that it's genuine. And you could tell that
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Danny was looking for answers like, no, dude, tell me
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  Speaker 1: why you would say those things about me when I
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  Speaker 1: was the only one really the hazard back. I know, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's like, no, I want answers here. When
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: it comes to Danny, I think unfortunately the friends around
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: him saw somebody that, like you said, it's a bad
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  Speaker 1: drunk and they used it for a storyline.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and I think that I think that I
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: think the situation was uncomfortable and not okay. But I
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: did appreciate hearing all of Jasmine's side about, you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: when she said, I just don't feel like it was
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: given equal apology treatment and taken as seriously as it
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: would have been if it happened to someone else in
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the group. And and she was very transparent when she said,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and you know, her girlfriend is not a cast member
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: on the show. I think that, well, yeah, she's not right.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's not a main titler, So I think it.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I think that it would have looked different, say, if
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: he did that to Janet, And but what's Jane's usband's name,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Jen and Jennet's husband Jason. Yes, you know, because those
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: are two people that you see constantly on the show,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: so you're gonna have to really say I'm sorry to
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: both and address both. And Jasmine didn't feel like the
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: apology was, you know, addressed as as hard and as
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: important as it should have been to her girlfriend and
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: now fiance either. And I agree with that, you know,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I think that that's and I think that she has
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: every right to feel that way. And also, you know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Danny's saying, well, I just didn't really think we're going
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: to bring that up, sir. You were on a reality show, hullo,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: the first all cast, you brought it up because just
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: because it didn't happen on camera doesn't mean that we're
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: not going to talk about it, because this is the
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: way you made her feel and it wasn't appropriate. And
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I think that Nia she speaks a lot for Daniel,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: so she likes to call him and yes, yes, oh,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but I think that she is I
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: think Danny should have handled this more himself and taken
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: far more accountability. And you know, if you don't want
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: to move on, that's okay, that's okay, but he can't
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: be surprised if she doesn't want to move on, and
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I think that she does. And I think that we're
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: in this world where we have to relive it and
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and it is what it is, and she's allowed to
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: feel every way that she wants to, especially about not
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: feeling the same you know way apologize to and respected
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: as the rest of the cast, especially with her fiance
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: who's not on camera all of the time.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Jasmine then says Lizzie that she felt Danny's apology, you know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: felt like shit. A lot of people think Jasmine was
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: overreacting when it.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Comes to that.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Look, I think Jasmine put her foot in her mouth.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Jasmine's also printed the show. Heye, Jasmine, I think this,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I think is one of those things where Danny didn't apologize.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: But I am of the school is you can't tell
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: somebody how to accept someone's apology, you know.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: What I mean.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I think I think, I think I think a lot
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: of people apologize just to move on from it, Like
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: like we talked about Jack's earlier.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: So although I like Danny, I do agree with Jasmon.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, look, if she doesn't feel like since here,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: give her that and maybe she'll come around to it.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: That's how I feel about that situation.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, absolutely, and that and that's okay. And he
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: probably did mean it genuinely, but he but he did
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: it in the same way that Jacks did, just you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: an apology. Hope we can move on. I am sorry.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he was sorry, but it was a much
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: bigger deal and and I think that he should have
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: asked what she needed from him to.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Move Yeah, good one. Good.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: No, it's not always about you saying I'm sorry. It's
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: then about how how do you need us to proceed
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: as friends? You know, if if at all I would,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I would like to respect that and I want to
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: hear from you what you need out of this because
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: I was the one in the wrong.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. I agree with that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: I agree with that, Lizy.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: The reunion culminated Okay when Janet missus Jackson your nasty,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the villain of the Valley said that Danny has been
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: inappropriate with women as early as a Super Bowl, which
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl airs around look, I love football.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Around January of this year.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: The reunion was taped in May, so in Janet's mind,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: that's what three four months prior to the reunion taking
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: that's recent. Talk about a bomb drop with a great cliffhanger.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously we're all gonna want to know
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: who she's talking about. It's out there. So even if
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: even if it wasn't really much like, the damage has
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: been done by saying it, so we all as audience
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: are like, okay, and you had a very pregnant wife
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: at home then.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: You know right?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, four under four baby.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Daddy boy? What did you do?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: What did you do? Well? Lizzie.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: We will recap part three next week. Thank you so
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: much for hopping on, Liddie. I know you're very busy
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: organizing your life and mind, so I appreciate you as always.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. And next week I'm gonna
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: leave it on a cliphanger, hopefully just as good as Janet. Yes,
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about with you what is next
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: for the Valley and a TBD cast member for next
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: season and how I think they are maneuvering to get
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: back on the show. So we can listen next week.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Listen next week, great drops for part three of the
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Valor reunion so that Lisa can drop a bomb.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: All right, thank you, list day, talculate.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Time, Bye, Thank you.
• 43:48
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• 43:53
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership.
• 43:57
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