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Mac & Bone Show - Ron Rivera Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. It is the Mack and Bone Show.
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Speaker 1: What a special weekend it is going to be in Canton, Ohio.
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Speaker 1: I know a ton of Panther fans are there. There
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Speaker 1: will be a ton of fifty nine jerseys, and it
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Speaker 1: is going to be fun to see Luke Keigley have
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Speaker 1: his moment inducted into the Hall of Fame. Who better
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Speaker 1: to talk to about Luke's career, what he was like
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Speaker 1: as a player, Not only the man that was his
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Speaker 1: head coach for so much of his career in Carolina,
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Speaker 1: but a man that played the same position as Luke
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Speaker 1: in his NFL career. Of course, we're talking about former
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Speaker 1: Panther head coach Ron Rivera, who joins us on the
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Speaker 1: Mac and Bone Show. Coach, it is a pleasure. How
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Speaker 1: you doing.
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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. I appreciate you guys reaching out.
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Speaker 3: Thank you always, Coach always, You're the perfect guy to
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Speaker 3: talk to.
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Speaker 1: Coach. I know you're busy as the GM of cal Football.
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Speaker 1: I know you're pumped up about the cow season, but
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Speaker 1: are you Are you going to be a part of
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Speaker 1: the celebration of the festivities in Ohio this weekend?
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, as long as as long the
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Speaker 2: air traffic doesn't let us down. I plan to be there.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to being there, and from what I understand,
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Speaker 2: Lou's gonna have a whole bunch of his former teammates
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Speaker 2: there as well, So this is pretty exciting.
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Speaker 3: Coach, we often talk about the mental side to Luke,
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Speaker 3: and you've told stories about the film preparation, but from
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Speaker 3: just the physical standpoint, how great of a linebacker was
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Speaker 3: he in terms of playing the game, just aside from
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Speaker 3: the mental aspect of it, you know.
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Speaker 2: I think as a player, as an athlete, he was
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Speaker 2: probably one of the best I've ever been around, especially
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Speaker 2: at the linebacking position. You know, he had a great
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Speaker 2: first step quickness and the ability to adjust very quickly
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Speaker 2: on the run, and because of that athleticism, I think
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Speaker 2: he made some plays that most guys have no opportunity
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Speaker 2: to make. So it was really kind of one of
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Speaker 2: those things. I just he do things and I just
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Speaker 2: be completely amazed. And you remember, I played with Mike
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Speaker 2: single Terry, I helped coach Bryan er Lacker, and he
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Speaker 2: fit right into the medal with those guys.
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Speaker 3: Coach, It's funny you bring up singletary Interwacker because I
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Speaker 3: was going to ask you what traits did Luke have
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Speaker 3: in common the way he played the game like those guys, Well, he.
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Speaker 2: Had he had their intensity, he had their their discipline,
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Speaker 2: he had their preparation efforts, and he had their athleticism. Uh,
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Speaker 2: Mike was Mike was one of these self made guys
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Speaker 2: that just because he practiced already worked hard. He did everything,
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Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, and Brian was such a
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Speaker 2: gifted athlete. I mean, you know, in your six four
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Speaker 2: and a half sixty five and you run like a
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Speaker 2: deer man, that's pretty special. So you know, Luke has
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Speaker 2: every one of those qualities.
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Speaker 1: Coach, let's let's talk about rookie year Luke Keikley. I
2:44
Speaker 1: read a great article by Darren Gaant this week at
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Speaker 1: Panthers dot Com and I had quotes in there from
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Speaker 1: John Beeson, and I remember this playing out. You guys
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Speaker 1: had a loaded linebacker room and drafted Luke anyway, and
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Speaker 1: you know it he gets in there. You're trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, we got James Anderson, we got Beson,
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Speaker 1: but he's coming off injury. But Besons are all pro
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Speaker 1: middle linebacker. We got TD and you're trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out where where Luke sits and John Beeson tells his
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Speaker 1: story in there of just realizing, oh man, this guy's
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Speaker 1: got to play the middle like I can't like, like
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Speaker 1: this guy is just special. Do you remember going through
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Speaker 1: that in your mind as a coach and kind of realizing,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, we got good linebackers here, but this
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Speaker 1: dude's gotta he's got to run the show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, it was one of those things that
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Speaker 2: when we first met Luke at the combine and listen
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Speaker 2: to him describe, you know, a play, you know, asked
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Speaker 2: Luke Keke, he told me what happened on this play?
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Speaker 2: What did you do? He juston tell us what he did.
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Speaker 2: He did, He tolds what his other ten teammates did,
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Speaker 2: as well as what the offense was doing and why
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Speaker 2: the offense reacted the way they did. I mean, it
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Speaker 2: was as impressive as it guy. But you know, our
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Speaker 2: initial thought was, you know, hey, we got to keep
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Speaker 2: Beeson in the middle. We'll put Luke at the strong
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Speaker 2: side and see how that goes by. It very became
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Speaker 2: very very evident right away. And Sean McDermot and I,
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Speaker 2: you know, we go way back to when we were
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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia, together under Jim Johnson, and we had we
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Speaker 2: had an inkling in our minds that Luke was the
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Speaker 2: perfect guy for the medal and and and that's really
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Speaker 2: kind of how it worked out. And and a lot
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Speaker 2: of it you saw just did by the way he
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Speaker 2: handled things, the way he did things. But one thing,
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Speaker 2: you know, and and and and I hope that everybody
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Speaker 2: there says this, Luke was so respectful of of of
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Speaker 2: the veteran linebackers that that he was really careful as
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Speaker 2: to the way he did things, and and and that
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Speaker 2: really just kind of spoke a little bit to who
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Speaker 2: he is as as as a man, uh as as
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Speaker 2: a player, as a teammate. But it was evident to
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Speaker 2: us and and and that's why we made the move.
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Speaker 3: Couch, I understand your answer here might be all of them,
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Speaker 3: But do you do you have a favorite Luke play
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Speaker 3: or moment that comes to mind.
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Speaker 2: All of them? I think I think it was the
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving game when he intercepted Tony Romo for the second
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Speaker 2: time and returned it for a touch and he threw
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Speaker 2: that little flipper at Tony. And it's funny because you know,
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Speaker 2: I feel responsible for that because going into that game,
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Speaker 2: it was a Thursday night game. Romo was coming off
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Speaker 2: injury at one point. When they announced Tony Romo was
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Speaker 2: going to play that game, they were the favorite and
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Speaker 2: we were I think we were the only undefeated team
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Speaker 2: left at that point, and he was the favorite. So
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Speaker 2: I poked the bear a little bit by getting up
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Speaker 2: in front of the team and said, there going, are
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Speaker 2: you effing kidding me? One player, one player is going
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Speaker 2: to make the difference, and he's better than all fifty
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Speaker 2: three of us. Oh that's bull crap. I mean I
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Speaker 2: I kind of went that direction with him, and I
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Speaker 2: think a few of the guys took that to heart
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Speaker 2: and had something to prove that day. And you know Luke,
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Speaker 2: I mean Luke just his intensity level it looked like
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Speaker 2: it went up, and man, he was it was. He
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Speaker 2: made some plays that game. He had two interceptions that
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Speaker 2: were right out of the textbook it man and and
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Speaker 2: and then the little lecture you know, elbow. He kind
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Speaker 2: of gave Tony kind of man. I said, boy, he
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Speaker 2: really got five it up for this one.
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Speaker 1: Your message got across. He took it personal with Tony Romo.
6:04
Speaker 1: We're talking to Ron Rivera. A great story there about
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Speaker 1: Luke Keighley and the amazing twenty fifteen win over Dallas
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Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving. Coach that Saints game to twenty thirteen where
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Speaker 1: he was officially credited with twenty four tackles and it
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Speaker 1: was raining like crazy, and that was huge for y'all
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Speaker 1: winning to do that one sticks out too. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he was it looked. That's one where it looked like
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Speaker 1: there were two Luke Keickley's on the field.
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Speaker 2: It really did. And you know who else played really
6:34
Speaker 2: well that game was Thomas Davis. I mean, those two
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Speaker 2: guys in Tendem really helped carry that defense. But Luke
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Speaker 2: was so inspirational and wanting to make every play, and
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Speaker 2: I think his teammates felt the energy and a lot
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Speaker 2: of it. Really Also, you go back and look at
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Speaker 2: how well a whole defense played. But I'll say when
6:50
Speaker 2: you look at that game. To win that game, your studs,
6:54
Speaker 2: your stars had to step up, you know. And we
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Speaker 2: can't forget the great performance by Cam Newton that day
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Speaker 2: on the game Runner at the very end, you know,
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Speaker 2: the intercession TV made some of the players that were
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Speaker 2: made by Steamates. But man, I think the thing everybody
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Speaker 2: got to understand is, to me, the reason Luke is
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Speaker 2: going into the Hall of Fame is because he does
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Speaker 2: what all great players do. He raises the play of
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Speaker 2: the people around you. Okay, he raised the play of
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Speaker 2: the other ten guys on the field with him. And
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Speaker 2: I think it also helped reflect a little bit on
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Speaker 2: what our offense did because you know, again that's that's
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Speaker 2: an impact player. That's a guy that changes the way
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Speaker 2: things are done because they carry that kind of energy,
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Speaker 2: you know. And and and it's one of the things
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Speaker 2: that you know, I've talked about you, you know with
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Speaker 2: our guys that you know, leadership is never about you,
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Speaker 2: but leadership starts with you. You set you set the tempo,
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Speaker 2: you set the standard. And that's what Luke did. He
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Speaker 2: set the standard not just for for for for the
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Speaker 2: defense or the special teams or the offense, but for
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Speaker 2: the whole team. And and and that's what was thing
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Speaker 2: was so impressive about who he is as a.
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Speaker 3: Young man coach. What was your reaction when the news
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Speaker 3: broke that Luke was retiring? Did it did it catch
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Speaker 3: you off guard? Because some people say, well, you know
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Speaker 3: that knew him, said you know what, it kind of
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Speaker 3: made sense, and others say they were completely caught off
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Speaker 3: guard by it.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll be honest, I had the great fortune of
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Speaker 2: him uh reaching out and coming to see me to
8:23
Speaker 2: talk about it leave me. It was one of the
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Speaker 2: more tremendous opportunities that Luke afforded me, and that was
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Speaker 2: to visit with him prior to his decision. So I
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Speaker 2: knew it was coming and and I you know, it
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Speaker 2: broke my heart to a degree just because of who
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Speaker 2: he is as a young man and as a football player,
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Speaker 2: but because the game means a lot to him. And
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Speaker 2: I think that's why he stated attached to the to
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Speaker 2: the Panthers, And I'm very glad that David Tefferd did that,
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Speaker 2: because you know, players like Luke that that build a
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Speaker 2: legacy and create a home and stay around they should
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Speaker 2: be around uh And and I think that's one of
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Speaker 2: the really great things that has happened for the Panthers
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Speaker 2: that Luke is still engaged with them.
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Speaker 1: We're talking with Panther head coach Ron Rivera sharing memories
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Speaker 1: of Luke Keigley, including that conversation where Luke shared with
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Speaker 1: coach that he was going to retire after only eight seasons.
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Speaker 1: Coach obviously a part of that. I'm sure was the
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Speaker 1: concussion battle. I will never forget it. This is a different,
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Speaker 1: different Saints game, but that primetime Saints game where he's
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Speaker 1: in tears, you know. And I didn't know at the
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Speaker 1: time that hey, that's that that can happen as a
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Speaker 1: symptom of a concussion. But that was so scary to
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Speaker 1: see this big, tough dude like that. How hard was
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Speaker 1: it on you as a coach to kind of I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think there was one moment where you basically told Luke, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting you out here at this point late in
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Speaker 1: the season, like, how hard was it on you to
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Speaker 1: kind of balance, Hey, I want him on the field,
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Speaker 1: but I'm worried about him right now.
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Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened. I was truly worried with him.
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Speaker 2: And you know, I had an opportunity to talk to
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Speaker 2: his parents. His mom and Debt are two terrific people, tremendous,
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Speaker 2: and I felt that responsibility and as a father and myself,
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Speaker 2: you know, I only wanted the best for the young man.
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Speaker 2: And in talking with with with our doctors, our team doctors,
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Speaker 2: doctor Higher, our head, our head trainer, Ryan Vermilions, you know,
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Speaker 2: we felt that's collectively the best thing for him, and
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Speaker 2: again this now became about him, was to sit in
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Speaker 2: to let him recover and and hopefully get back to
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Speaker 2: being Luke. So we made a tough decision, but I
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Speaker 2: believe it was the right one.
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Speaker 3: Coach, there are so many moments we that twenty fifteen
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Speaker 3: team as a whole. That's the that's the best team
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Speaker 3: in Charlotte sports history that you coach and help put together.
10:48
Speaker 3: And much like the lout question, it's probably a lot
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Speaker 3: of answers, but is there a moment or two when
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Speaker 3: you think about that team and all the moments they
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Speaker 3: gave us, is there a moment or two that makes
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Speaker 3: you smile that you love to remember them?
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Speaker 2: In all honesty that the winning the NFC Championship that game,
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Speaker 2: you know, was was the moment after right after the game,
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Speaker 2: that was probably one of the that is the best
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Speaker 2: number one moment for me as a head coach period.
11:22
Speaker 2: As far as winning and losing games, you know, my
11:25
Speaker 2: big disappointment obviously is not being able to win win
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Speaker 2: it for the city. You know, would have loved to
11:29
Speaker 2: have won the Super Bowl title and be able to
11:31
Speaker 2: bring it home to Charlotte, And you know, I it's crazy.
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Speaker 2: I always reflect on that. But but that that to
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Speaker 2: me is probably that's my low point as a coach.
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Speaker 2: But my high point is is being the players talking
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Speaker 2: with the players after having won the NFC. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, we had some, we had some We had
11:50
Speaker 2: some high water mark games too, you know, and you
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Speaker 2: mentioned one of my favorite was the twenty thirteenth victory
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Speaker 2: over New Orleans. You know that that game was was
11:58
Speaker 2: as big as it gets. You know, ain't able to
12:00
Speaker 2: beat Bill Belichick team or beating Andy Reid. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, the guys that I've had tremendous respect for
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Speaker 2: and guys that helped mentor me. So I mean, there
12:08
Speaker 2: was some really cool moments and a lot of it
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Speaker 2: circles around who Luke Keickley was for us on our
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Speaker 2: football team.
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Speaker 1: I remember that play at the end of the Monday
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Speaker 1: night game against the Patriots where Brady was crying at
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Speaker 1: a ref coach he didn't get a call for once,
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Speaker 1: he didn't get a call in theen zone on p
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Speaker 1: I on Luke. Ah, that was beautiful, that was beautiful.
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Speaker 3: You don't look back and smile what the Josh Norman
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Speaker 3: versus Odell?
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Speaker 2: You know what I do? But I will say that
12:38
Speaker 2: that I felt so bad for Josh because so many
12:41
Speaker 2: people wanted to paint him as as as the bad guy.
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Speaker 2: And and and I'll just tell you that's just Josh's intensity,
12:49
Speaker 2: because again, when when when when those players were challenged?
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Speaker 2: You know when, when when when people when when people
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Speaker 2: doubted those guys, you know they they rose to the occasion.
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Speaker 2: And and and that was probably one of Josh Norman's
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Speaker 2: finest moments in terms of the battle, I mean, playing
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Speaker 2: to his ability and and really just challenging one of
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Speaker 2: the one of the great receivers at that time.
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Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt, no doubt. All right, last question I
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Speaker 1: have not asked. We've talked to, you know, a bunch
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Speaker 1: of Luke's coaches, but I've never asked a question this way.
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Speaker 1: I've never asked you this question, coach. We always hear
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Speaker 1: about Luke. A lot of his teammates Kirk Cooma's on
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Speaker 1: with us this week, would talk about how much he'd
13:28
Speaker 1: help them, right, Hey, I know what's coming, it's run
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Speaker 1: left or screen over there and all that stuff. But
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Speaker 1: I want to hear about how much did he help
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Speaker 1: you as coaches? Like were there times where he caught
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Speaker 1: something on film and he's like showing the coaching staff
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Speaker 1: or the game plans put together, and he's like, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: we got to do this. Like how much of that
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Speaker 1: was happening?
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Speaker 2: Oh, that was happening constantly, you know, because he was
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Speaker 2: he was He was so so football orient and and
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Speaker 2: intelligent in the extras and OUs that we listened. I mean,
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Speaker 2: what do you respected not just but all of our players.
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Speaker 2: If our players came to us with something that you know,
14:03
Speaker 2: they they really didn't feel comfortable with, they talked about it,
14:07
Speaker 2: and and there was a willingness bye bye bye by
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Speaker 2: our coordinators, by Sean and and Mike Truda that hey,
14:14
Speaker 2: if this didn't look at it didn't fit right, hey,
14:16
Speaker 2: let's let's take it out. And I think the players
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Speaker 2: respected that because they did. They were willing to say something,
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Speaker 2: you know, And and and Luke was one of those
14:24
Speaker 2: guys that that you could go to and say, what
14:26
Speaker 2: do you think do you think this fits? Is this
14:28
Speaker 2: right or wrong? And Luke would tell you, you know.
14:30
Speaker 2: And it's funny too because Steve Wilks, I know, he
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Speaker 2: said this in a couple of interviews, and Sean also
14:36
Speaker 2: mentioned it is that with Luke in that room. When
14:39
Speaker 2: you walked in, you as a coach had to be
14:42
Speaker 2: on your game because Luke would raise his hand and
14:45
Speaker 2: ask that question and you had to have the answer.
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Speaker 2: And he did it in a respectful way where if
14:52
Speaker 2: he wasn't sure or he didn't think it was right,
14:55
Speaker 2: he asked it in a way that gave you a
14:57
Speaker 2: chance to correct yourself. That's how much of a profess
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Speaker 2: he was. And believe me, it happened to all of
15:04
Speaker 2: us coaches. He would say something that makes you realize,
15:07
Speaker 2: oh crap, you know what, He's right, and you were
15:09
Speaker 2: able to just go with the flow. I mean that
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Speaker 2: that was the thing. And and I just remember, you know,
15:14
Speaker 2: coach Wilke's talking about that. I remember Sean talking about it,
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Speaker 2: and like I said, I was just grateful that we
15:20
Speaker 2: had the kind of coaches that that that that that
15:24
Speaker 2: trusted the players enough that if they brought something up,
15:28
Speaker 2: they were willing to change it. So to me, that
15:30
Speaker 2: that that that's what you want in in in in
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Speaker 2: your in your coaches, in your players, is that you
15:35
Speaker 2: want that communication. And I think that was one of
15:37
Speaker 2: the great things about it. And you know, and been
15:40
Speaker 2: the one last thing too, and I think everybody needs
15:43
Speaker 2: to know this. Luke has got an unbelievable sense of humor. Okay,
15:47
Speaker 2: people don't know that about Luke. One year for Halloween,
15:50
Speaker 2: and it might have been the twenty fifteen or twenty
15:52
Speaker 2: seventeen season, I know, I know it was one of
15:54
Speaker 2: those years Luke came out into the locker room as
16:00
Speaker 2: Cam Newton and everybody fell out because it was it
16:06
Speaker 2: was the opposite version. It was the right arm version.
16:08
Speaker 2: It was the defensive version of what what would have
16:12
Speaker 2: looked like as our middle linebacker.
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Speaker 1: That picture was shared on Panthers dot com this week,
16:17
Speaker 1: and I had kind of I'd forgotten about it. It
16:20
Speaker 1: was exactly Cam's outfit. I mean, it was that. That
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Speaker 1: was classic.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 1: You got the fun y'all must have had in that
16:28
Speaker 1: locker room, man, I'm telling you. And these stories are
16:31
Speaker 1: so fun to hear to coach.
16:34
Speaker 2: You know. One of the other ones that I thought
16:36
Speaker 2: from real quick too, that love people during that during
16:38
Speaker 2: that season, during that run, you know, So to keep
16:42
Speaker 2: everybody from getting tense and up tight, I let our
16:45
Speaker 2: position of coaches get up and tell stories and and
16:48
Speaker 2: and and and lead a team a team talk Mike
16:52
Speaker 2: Schuler got up there one day and he was telling
16:54
Speaker 2: the team. He told the story about when his father's
16:57
Speaker 2: team was undefeated, how loose they tried to day. And
17:01
Speaker 2: so one one day he's telling the story that a
17:04
Speaker 2: group of the players got a small alligator and put
17:07
Speaker 2: it in his shower. So so Shula walks in and
17:10
Speaker 2: there's this alligator and any any and he, you know,
17:13
Speaker 2: so he gets really upset. He gets it in front
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Speaker 2: of the team and he goes, I don't know what
17:16
Speaker 2: the hell's going on, but so you guys gotta you
17:18
Speaker 2: guys gotta gotta understand how serious this is, and and als.
17:22
Speaker 2: Then he looks at Larry Zonk and Coach yells at
17:25
Speaker 2: Larry Zonk and says, hey, and I know you had
17:27
Speaker 2: something to do with it, Zonk, and Zong goes, well,
17:29
Speaker 2: I did, Coach. I'm the one who said, let's take
17:31
Speaker 2: his mouth shut. So he tells that story on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: So on I think it was Friday morning. I can't
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Speaker 2: remember the week. It was near the end of the year.
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Speaker 2: I come into my shower and there's a fricking alligator
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Speaker 2: in my in my shower, and I knew right away
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Speaker 2: who it was. It was Charles Tillman. So I walked
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Speaker 2: into the into the locker room. There's Tilman telling all
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Speaker 2: the all the guys about what he just did. To me. Oh,
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Speaker 2: I was was that was You're right. We had a
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Speaker 2: lot of fun because we had the kind of guys
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Speaker 2: that could do that.
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Speaker 3: That's so good.
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Speaker 1: That is so good.
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Speaker 3: Well, coach, thanks, And that's the guy that that became
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Speaker 3: an FBI agent. Of all your guys.
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Speaker 1: That was a plot twist. That's a plot twist. And
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Speaker 1: see that happening, coach. Uh, that was This was awesome.
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Speaker 1: We love the stories. We love hearing about these good
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Speaker 1: old days. Thanks so much for you joining us. Best
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Speaker 1: of luck to Cal football. Can't wait to watch that
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Speaker 1: young quarterback sling it for y'all this year. Coach, good
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Speaker 1: luck to see you.
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Speaker 2: No, I'll tell you what he's special, Guys, he's special.
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Speaker 2: Keep an eye on him.
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Speaker 1: You could tell, you could tell. All right, coach, have
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Speaker 1: fun to cant this week. Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 2: All right, thanks guys' hearing now