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NEVER open strange trash, it could ruin your life - MrBallen · Crime and Horror

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  Speaker 1: In December of nineteen eighty eight, a young woman was
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  Speaker 1: having coffee at her friend's house in the city of Tour, France,
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  Speaker 1: and at some point she excused herself to go use
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom, and when she opened the lidd of the toilet,
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  Speaker 1: she saw in the bowl were two small gold objects
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  Speaker 1: floating in the water. They looked like beads at first,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe broken pieces of jewelry, and so she leaned
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  Speaker 1: down clothes to get a better look, and then she
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  Speaker 1: realized what they actually were. But before we get into
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  Speaker 1: that story, if you're a fan of the strange, dark,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into today's story. On the night of December eleventh,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, a thirty eight year old woman named
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  Speaker 1: Francoise Gendron touched up her lipstick in the bathroom mirror
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  Speaker 1: of a nightclub in the city of Tour, France. Her
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  Speaker 1: best friend, Sylvie Riviego, was washing her hands the sink
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  Speaker 1: right next to her. Francoise and Sylvie were best friends.
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  Speaker 1: They had basically known each other forever since they were
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  Speaker 1: just little kids, and these days they went out together
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  Speaker 1: almost every single night. They were both divorced, and Francoise's
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  Speaker 1: nineteen year old son had recently moved out of the house,
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  Speaker 1: so she was making the most of her new freedom
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  Speaker 1: and staying out late all the time, often with Sylvie. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Francoise and Sylvie were not exactly the same in terms
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  Speaker 1: of their attitude towards life. Francoise had always been much
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  Speaker 1: more sociable and had this huge circle of friends, and
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  Speaker 1: so really she was the one who often had to
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  Speaker 1: push her much more introverted friend Sylvie to come out
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  Speaker 1: with her, but she usually did. However, tonight it was
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  Speaker 1: fran Soise who turned to Sylvie and said that she
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  Speaker 1: actually wanted to go home now. She told Sylvie that
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  Speaker 1: the men they were there with at the club, Michelle
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  Speaker 1: and Luke, were making her feel uncomfortable and she wanted
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  Speaker 1: to leave now. It was clear to Francoise pretty much
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  Speaker 1: immediately that Sylvie was pretty disappointed, you know, despite being introverted.
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  Speaker 1: Now that they were out, Sylvie wanted to stay out.
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  Speaker 1: And also, I mean they regularly went out with Michelle
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  Speaker 1: and Luke and there was never any issues before. And
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  Speaker 1: so she said as much to Francoise, like what do
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  Speaker 1: you mean, Like what's the issue? But Francoise just said
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  Speaker 1: she was getting a weird vibe from both of them
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  Speaker 1: and just would feel better if she went home. And
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  Speaker 1: so a few minutes later, Francoise and Sylvie walked back
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  Speaker 1: to the table where Michelle and Luke were still sitting,
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  Speaker 1: and there was a receipt on the table and Michelle
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  Speaker 1: was putting his swallat away like he had just paid
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  Speaker 1: for it. And actually Michelle, he turned to the women
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  Speaker 1: and he said, hey, are you guys ready to leave
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  Speaker 1: and go to the next club. But Franceoise, she just
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  Speaker 1: kind of smiled and grabbed her coat and said that
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  Speaker 1: actually she was going to leave now. She said she
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  Speaker 1: had to get home to her boyfriend, who was probably
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  Speaker 1: already at her apartment and waiting for her. The men
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  Speaker 1: were pretty surprised by this and maybe even a little
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  Speaker 1: bit offended, and Michelle actually asked Francoise, like, hey, are
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  Speaker 1: you sure everything's okay here? Like, is that really the
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  Speaker 1: reason you're leaving? And Francoise just said, Yep, everything's fine.
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  Speaker 1: I just got to go. But she could definitely tell
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  Speaker 1: that the men did not believe her, but Francoise didn't
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  Speaker 1: really care. I mean, at this point, she really just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to leave, and so she just turned and gave
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  Speaker 1: Sylvia a hug and then just said bye to the
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  Speaker 1: group who were just kind of sitting there somewhat stunned
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  Speaker 1: this is happening so quickly, and then Francoise turned and
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  Speaker 1: she hustled right out of the club and flagged down
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  Speaker 1: a cab before any of them could follow her. The
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  Speaker 1: next morning, Francoise woke up in her own bed to
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  Speaker 1: the sound of her boyfriend Eve Martin, bustling around her
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  Speaker 1: bedroom and getting dressed. She rolled over to look at
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  Speaker 1: her alarm clock and saw that it was eight am.
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  Speaker 1: Francoise sat up and Eve turned to her and said
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  Speaker 1: good morning, but she immediately noticed that his voice was cold,
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  Speaker 1: and she knew why the night before, when she had
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  Speaker 1: come home, they had gotten into a big argument because
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  Speaker 1: you know, he had been waiting for her for quite
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  Speaker 1: a while, for hours, you know, by the time she
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  Speaker 1: finally got there, that was the reason she had to leave,
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  Speaker 1: and it really had upset him. And in many ways,
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  Speaker 1: this was not like a one off issue in their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: It was a recurring one. Francoise was always staying out
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  Speaker 1: super late with her friends and often with her male friends,
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  Speaker 1: and Eve felt like she was basically prioritizing all of
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  Speaker 1: them over him. He worked during the day, so the
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  Speaker 1: evenings were really the only time that he and Francoise
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  Speaker 1: could reasonably get together. But Francoise never seemed to get
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  Speaker 1: home until super late, and at that point it was
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  Speaker 1: too late for Eve to come over, or vice versa,
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  Speaker 1: and so they just didn't get to see each other
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  Speaker 1: as much as they could be. And so now Francoise
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  Speaker 1: knew she had to do something to try to smooth
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  Speaker 1: things over with her boyfriend. So she turned to Eve
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  Speaker 1: and said, Hey, do you want to come over tonight
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  Speaker 1: after you get off work, And she promised she would
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  Speaker 1: actually be home when he got there so they could
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  Speaker 1: cook dinner together. And just spend some time together. It
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  Speaker 1: would be just a night for them. And at that
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  Speaker 1: Francois saw Eve's shoulders immediately relax, and then he turned
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  Speaker 1: around and he smiled at her and said, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I'd really really like that. And so at this point
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  Speaker 1: the mood in the room completely shifted. They were sort
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  Speaker 1: of back on good terms. And so as Eve finished
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  Speaker 1: getting dressed, he asked France was what else she had
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  Speaker 1: going on that day, and she told him that she
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  Speaker 1: had a handyman she knew named Christiane Moreau, who was
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  Speaker 1: coming by that morning to put up a new wallpaper
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  Speaker 1: in the apartment, so she'd very likely be stuck at
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  Speaker 1: home for most of the day while he worked on it.
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  Speaker 1: The two chatted for a bit longer, and then once
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  Speaker 1: Eve was ready to leave, Francoise kissed him goodbye, and
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  Speaker 1: then after he left, Franceise pulled herself out of bed
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  Speaker 1: and put on a rope, and then she went into
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen and she opened up a can of food
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  Speaker 1: for her cat, and then she made herself some coffee.
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  Speaker 1: She was a bit hungover from the night before, and
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  Speaker 1: she thought maybe a warm bath would make her feel better.
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  Speaker 1: So after she drank her coffee, she ran a bath,
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  Speaker 1: she got into the water, and she closed her off.
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  Speaker 1: At eleven am the next morning, So December thirteenth, a
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  Speaker 1: janitor at the Trosseau Hospital in Tour, France, was carrying
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  Speaker 1: a trash bag out to the dumpster when he noticed
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  Speaker 1: something odd. There were two blue trash bags just sitting
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  Speaker 1: out on a strip of grass in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the hospital's parking lot. Now, the trash bags they used
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  Speaker 1: at the hospital were gray, so the janitor knew these bags,
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  Speaker 1: these blue bags had to have been left there by
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  Speaker 1: someone from outside of the hospital. So the janitor walked
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  Speaker 1: over to the bags and sort of inspected them from
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  Speaker 1: the outside, and they were sort of bulky, but you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't really tell what was inside of them. And then
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  Speaker 1: he just reached down and he opened one of them,
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  Speaker 1: and when he saw what was inside, he immediately stumbled back,
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  Speaker 1: turned and ran inside, shouting for someone to call the police.
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  Speaker 1: About an hour later, so just before noon on December thirteenth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, Chief Inspector Francois Barbier of the Tour
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  Speaker 1: Police department walked across the parking lot of thee Trisaux
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  Speaker 1: Hospital he'd been sent out here to investigate human remains
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  Speaker 1: that had been found outside of the hospital, and he
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  Speaker 1: was the first officer to arrive on the scene. And
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  Speaker 1: so now a janitor was walking with him to show
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  Speaker 1: him the way to where the remains had been found.
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  Speaker 1: They walked over to a grassy strip in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the parking lot and they stopped next to a
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  Speaker 1: pair of blue trash bags. Inspector Barbier knelt down and
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  Speaker 1: he opened up one of the bags, and inside he
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  Speaker 1: saw very clearly there were two severed arms and the
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  Speaker 1: lower part of two legs. He opened up the other
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  Speaker 1: blue bag and he found it contained a woman's torso,
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  Speaker 1: but there was no pelvis, no thighs, and no head.
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  Speaker 1: Barbier turned to the janitor, who he knew had found
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  Speaker 1: the remains, and he asked him, like, when did you
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  Speaker 1: find this? And the janitor said that he had been
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  Speaker 1: out doing his rounds throwing his own trash away around
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  Speaker 1: eleven am, and that's when he had seen them. But
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  Speaker 1: they definitely had not been there when he had done
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  Speaker 1: his rounds at nine am that day, so clearly these
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  Speaker 1: had to have been dropped off sometime between nine and
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  Speaker 1: eleven Barbier stood up and looked around, and he noticed
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  Speaker 1: there actually was a medical school right down the street,
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  Speaker 1: and for a second he wondered if maybe this was
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  Speaker 1: all just a tasteless prank by some of the students
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  Speaker 1: who could have maybe stolen a cadaver from the hospital's
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  Speaker 1: morgan dropped it here. But as he thought about it,
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  Speaker 1: he just couldn't imagine medical students desecrating a human body
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  Speaker 1: like that, I mean, even as a prank, it just
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  Speaker 1: seemed not possible. And so to him, it just seemed
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  Speaker 1: like the more obvious answer here, albeit a gruesome one,
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  Speaker 1: was that this woman contained in these two bags had
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  Speaker 1: been murdered, and whoever killed her chopped her body up
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  Speaker 1: and put them in these bags because it would be
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  Speaker 1: easier to dispose of her body that way. And so
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  Speaker 1: Barbier hoped that when the forensics team showed up, they'd
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  Speaker 1: be able to find fingerprints from the killer on the
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  Speaker 1: blue trash bags, because at this point, I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a head of this woman. The victim didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a head, and so it could be very challenging
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  Speaker 1: to identify who it was. And if he didn't know
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  Speaker 1: who the victim was, it would be even harder to
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  Speaker 1: narrow down who might have killed her. Four days later,
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  Speaker 1: on the afternoon of December seventeenth, Barbier was reading over
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  Speaker 1: an autopsy report at his desk. After the initial discovery
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  Speaker 1: of those blue trash bags at the hospital, more body
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  Speaker 1: parts from what appeared to be the same body had
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  Speaker 1: been found dumped behind a clothing store in a commercial
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  Speaker 1: part of town, but the head was still missing, and
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  Speaker 1: with no clues as to who the victim was, the
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  Speaker 1: investigation really was just barely crawling along. The police had
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  Speaker 1: put out a press release about the body's discovery, but
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  Speaker 1: so far no one had come forward with information, and
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  Speaker 1: there had been no women who had been reported missing
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  Speaker 1: in the area recently. Also, no usable fingerprints had been
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  Speaker 1: found on the trash bags, and so at this point
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  Speaker 1: they really just didn't have forensic evidence, and so they
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  Speaker 1: were not able to even begin to track down who
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  Speaker 1: the killer was or what happened to them. And now,
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  Speaker 1: as Barbier continued to read through this autopsy report, he
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  Speaker 1: saw that the medical examiner had run the victim's fingerprints
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  Speaker 1: through the database, but there was no match. And so
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  Speaker 1: again there's just like no leads in this case so far. However,
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  Speaker 1: as Barbier continued reading through this report, he saw that
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  Speaker 1: the autopsy did reveal that the victim had died recently,
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  Speaker 1: probably only one day before her remains were discovered. She
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  Speaker 1: appeared to have bled to death from two deep gashes
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  Speaker 1: on her wrists, and there were also traces of an
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  Speaker 1: anti anxiety medicine that was in her blood, which suggested
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  Speaker 1: she might have been drugged before she was killed. And
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  Speaker 1: Barbier was sort of baffled by this because the method
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  Speaker 1: of murder almost seemed gentle and controlled compared to the
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  Speaker 1: extreme violence that was done to the body post mortem,
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  Speaker 1: like those two things were totally in contrast with each other,
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  Speaker 1: and so he wondered if this was all done this
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  Speaker 1: way out of necessity, and so maybe the killer was
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  Speaker 1: just too small or too weak, or maybe both to
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  Speaker 1: kill the victim without sedating her first. And then also
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  Speaker 1: along those same lines, maybe they couldn't move her body
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  Speaker 1: without chopping it up first. And so, as Barbier is
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  Speaker 1: just sort of thinking through what could have happened here,
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  Speaker 1: the phone on his desk rang. He put down the report,
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  Speaker 1: and he picked up the phone, and it was a
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  Speaker 1: woman who said that she had just seen a newspaper
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  Speaker 1: article about the dead body, and she thought it could
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  Speaker 1: be a woman named Francoise Gendron who lived in an
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  Speaker 1: apartment complex called La Valais Violette, and so Barbier immediately
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  Speaker 1: set up. He grabbed his pen and he wrote down
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  Speaker 1: the name and the address. But before he could ask
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  Speaker 1: who the caller was or why she thought the victim
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  Speaker 1: could be this woman, friends, was the caller hung up?
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  Speaker 1: an hour later, Barbier walked through the hallway on the
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  Speaker 1: first floor of the Lavalais Violette apartment complex where his
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  Speaker 1: mystery caller had told him his victim lived. This was
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  Speaker 1: the first lead he had gotten since the body was found,
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  Speaker 1: so he was hopeful that something would come of it now.
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  Speaker 1: The woman who called didn't actually give the apartment number
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  Speaker 1: for Friendsoise, just that she lived in this complex, and
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  Speaker 1: so Barbier just literally walked down the hallway and knocked
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  Speaker 1: on an apartment door at random, and the man who answered.
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  Speaker 1: Barbier asked him if he knew a woman named fran
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  Speaker 1: Soise Gendron, and did she live here, and the man
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  Speaker 1: just nodded and said, yep, she lives here, and then
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  Speaker 1: he pointed to a door right down the same hallway,
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  Speaker 1: and then the man, unprompted, told Barbier that he hadn't
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  Speaker 1: seen anybody go in or out of that apartment for
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  Speaker 1: at least a few days, and he was starting to
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  Speaker 1: get worried about fran Suaz's cat. Barbier's heart began to
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  Speaker 1: race because if fran Soise really did live in that
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  Speaker 1: apartment and she really hadn't been around in days, well,
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  Speaker 1: it seemed very possible that she was his victim. So
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  Speaker 1: he thanked the man and said he would handle it,
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  Speaker 1: and then he walked down the hallway to the door
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  Speaker 1: and he knocked and there was no answer, but he
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  Speaker 1: could hear a cat meowing inside. And so at this point,
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  Speaker 1: Barbier was feeling really confident about the anonymous tip, and
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  Speaker 1: so he just turned and hurried back out to his car,
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  Speaker 1: and he radioed for a forensics team to come to
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  Speaker 1: this apartment complex, and then a few minutes later they
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  Speaker 1: arrived carrying a battering ram to break down the door.
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  Speaker 1: So Barbier and the team they go back down the
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  Speaker 1: hallway to Francoise's door. Barbier got out of the way
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  Speaker 1: and then the officers smashed it down with this ram.
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  Speaker 1: And then once it was open, Barbier stepped inside the apartment.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as Barbier was in this apartment, he was
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  Speaker 1: standing in the living room and he looked around and
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  Speaker 1: nothing seemed disturbed. However, when he left the living room
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  Speaker 1: and went into the kitchen, it was a different story. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen was not a total disaster, but there was
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  Speaker 1: a broken dish on the ground and some food items
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  Speaker 1: that must have been on the dish at some point
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  Speaker 1: that also were scattered across the floor, and so just
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  Speaker 1: at first glance, it appeared like maybe some sort of
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  Speaker 1: struggle happened in here. However, Barbier looked around the kitchen
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  Speaker 1: and he didn't find any blood anywhere, so it was
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  Speaker 1: just this broken plate. And then when Barbier checked the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the apartment, no drawers or closets looked like
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  Speaker 1: they had been ransacked, so this didn't appear like an
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  Speaker 1: apartment that had been robbed at any point. However, one
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  Speaker 1: thing Barbier did notice was in the bedroom there were
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  Speaker 1: a few unopened rolls of wallpaper on a stool, like
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  Speaker 1: as if somebody had been about to do some work
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  Speaker 1: in the bedroom but then just didn't. Barbier told the
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  Speaker 1: forensics team to first make sure the cat got fed,
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  Speaker 1: because there was a cat in here and the cat
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  Speaker 1: was a little malnourished, but basically okay, and then to
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  Speaker 1: sweep the apartment for fingerprints to see whether fran Swase's
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  Speaker 1: prince matched the victim, and if she was the victim,
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  Speaker 1: he was hoping they might also find fingerprints or blood
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  Speaker 1: inside the apartment from whoever might have killed her. And
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  Speaker 1: so the forensics team they got to work, and Barbier
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  Speaker 1: he just continued sort of walking around the apartment looking
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  Speaker 1: at photos that were out on display to maybe get
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  Speaker 1: a sense of France Swase's body size, to sort of
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  Speaker 1: mentally compare it to the victim's body. And as he
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  Speaker 1: was doing this, he happened to glance out the window
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  Speaker 1: and he saw a young man standing on the sidewalk
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  Speaker 1: outside who clearly was watching the police through the glass.
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  Speaker 1: And when Barbier locked eyes with this guy, the guy
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  Speaker 1: suddenly looked terror and he just turned and began speed
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  Speaker 1: walking away, at which point Barbier opened up the window
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  Speaker 1: and shouted at the sky to stay right where he was.
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  Speaker 1: An hour later, Inspector Barbier walked into an interview room
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  Speaker 1: at the Tour police station and sat down across from
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  Speaker 1: the young man who had been watching franz Wais's apartment.
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  Speaker 1: By now he knew this man's name was Eve Martin,
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  Speaker 1: and he claimed to have been Francois's boyfriend. And so
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Barbier sits down and he asks, Eve, you know, what
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: were you doing outside of Francois's apartment when I saw you?
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: And Eve said that he had just come by the
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: apartment to see if Francois was home, but like he
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: got there and saw police inside and he knew something
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: was wrong. But he specified that he hadn't seen or
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: heard from her in about five days and didn't know
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: she was missing. Like the last time he spoke to
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: her was the morning of December twelfth. Now the instant
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Eve said December twelfth. Barbier thought of two things. One
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: is that was actually the day before the body was
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: found in the parking lot. And two, based on the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: autopsy report, it was presumed that the victim was killed
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the day before her body was found, so December twelfth,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: and so it's pretty suspicious that this guy is mentioning
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: December twelfth as the last time he saw Francois and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: so Barbier leaned in and he asked Eve to elaborate
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: about the last time he saw Francois on the twelfth,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: and Eve said he had seen Francoise at her own
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: apartment when he left the apartment around eight am on
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the twelfth, and the two of them had made plans
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: to meet up again at her place that evening, but
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: he said when he got there that night, she wasn't home,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: but this was not unusual for her, so Eve explained
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: that he just let himself inside her apartment with the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: spare key she had given him, and he just made
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: himself dinner and he watched TV while he waited for
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: her to eventually show up, and then he set At
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: around eight pm, her landline, her home landline phone began
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: to ring. Eve said that he answered the phone, which
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: was not totally unusual, and he said the person who
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: was calling claimed to be one of Francoise's friends. Eve
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: said he didn't recognize the voice, but he said Francoise
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: had a big circle of friends and he for sure
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: did not know all of them. But Eve told Barbier
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: that this caller was not calling the apartment to try
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: to reach Francois. They were calling the apartment to reach
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: him Eve to tell him that apparently Francoise had decided
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to go out of town this weekend with some other
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: friends and that she would not be home tonight. And
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Eve said this was not the first time that Francoise
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: had ditched him, and so, in his frustration after being
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: told this by this friend, he said, he grabbed his
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: dinner plate and just chucked it on the floor and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: shattered it, and then he left. Barbier was surprised to
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: hear this, and he was thinking, if Eve was the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: type of person who would immediately start breaking things over
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: something that you didn't seem like that big of a deal, well,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: what else was he capable of? However, as potentially suspicious
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: as Eve was, Barbier had not actually confirmed whether Francoise
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: was even his victim. This could just be a coincidence
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: here that she left town right before this body was found,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: like she could be just fine. And so before Barbier
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: let Eve go because he couldn't really hold him at
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: this point, he asked Eve to just give him a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: detailed account of what else he had done on December twelfth.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: He wanted to get the full timeline of what he
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: did on that day, and Ive just said after he
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: had left Francoise's apartment that morning, when he and Francoise
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: had made plans to meet up that night, he said
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: he had spent most of the day at work, and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: then he had gone back to Francoise's apartment after work,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and then after he had waited around for a while
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and got that phone call and broke the plate, he
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: said he had just left and gone straight to his
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: own apartment, which he shared with his mother, and he
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: was there all night. And so Barbier wrote down what
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: he said and made a note to follow up on
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: his alibi. And then before he let Eve go, he
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: just asked him if if Francoise was planning to go
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: anywhere or meet anybody on the day he last saw her,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and Eve he thought about it for a moment and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: then he said, yeah, Actually, there was one thing Francoise
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: had mentioned to him. She had told him that an
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: acquaintance named Christian Moreau was supposed to come over her
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: apartment later that morning to put up some new wallpaper
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: in her apartment. The next morning, December eighteenth, Inspector Barbier
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: knocked on the door of Christian's apartment, the guy who
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: was going to put up the wallpaper. Now, at this point,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: forensics still had not confirmed whether or not Francoise was
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the victim, but for the time being, Barbier was working
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: under the assumption that she was a few seconds later,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: a young man answered the door and confirmed he was
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Christiane Moreau, and so Barbier asked him if he remembered
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: going to Francois Gendron's apartment on December twelfth, and Christiane said, yes,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: he did remember, but he seemed confused about why he
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: was being asked about it by a police officer. Barbier
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: explained that Francoise was presumed to be missing and had
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: even been possibly killed on the same day that Christian
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: was at her apartment, and Christiane looked very surprised to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: hear this, and he just said, you know, I was
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: there on the twelfth. I got there around ten am
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: that morning. Francoise seemed perfectly fine. She appeared to have
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: just gotten out of the bath and it just didn't
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: seem like anything was wrong. However, Christiane said he was
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: only in the apartment around Francoise for like a minute,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: because he just dropped off the new wallpaper and was
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: going to install it on another day, So it was
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a very brief interaction, but again she seemed fine during
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: this very brief interaction. Barbier obviously had seen those rolls
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: of new wallpaper just sitting in Francoise's apartment, so he
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: figured this part of Christian's story had to be true,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that he must have dropped them off. But it did
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: seem a bit odd to drop the wallpaper off on
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: one day and then come back at another time to
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: actually perform the work, like you could easily just do
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: those two things at the same time, so he wondered
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: whether this had actually been the plan all along, or
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: if something unexpected had happened inside of the apartment with
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Francoise that had somehow stopped Christian from installing the wallpaper
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: on that first visit. So Barbier asked Christian for his
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: alibi for the rest of the day that Francoise had
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: last been seen, which was the twelfth, and Christian went
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: over his entire day. He provided all the information, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: then afterwards Barbier, after taking down some notes, he said
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: he would be in touch. Now. At this moment, Barbier
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: didn't have enough evidence to hold Christian for more questioning,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: but as he walked back to his car, Barbier hoped
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that forensics might find some fingerprints or blood in france
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Wasis's apartment that could implicate Christian. A day later, Barbier
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: sat down at his desk and read over a forensics
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: report on Francois's apartment. Now, there hadn't been any blood
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: traces found, but a set of fingerprints had been pulled
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: from the phone and they matched the hands that had
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: been found inside the blue trash bag. So this confirmed
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: that france Was was indeed the victim, but so far
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: there was no evidence pointing to who killed her. Eve
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Franceise's boyfriend his alibi checked out, and that handyman Christian Moreau,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: he also had a solid alibi. And then asked for
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Francoise's nineteen year old son, who was serving in the military. Well,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: he was confirmed to have been at his barracks over
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: two hundred miles away at the time of the murder,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and so he was ruled out as a suspect. And
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: then also he would say that he had not heard
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: from his mother since several days before she was actually killed,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Barbier was still trying to figure out who was that
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: person who called Francoise's apartment when Eve was there to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: tell Eve that, hey, your girlfriend's going to be out
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: of town this weekend, because it just seemed like that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: was pretty suspicious and this person who was calling must
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: know something about Francoise's death. But this was the nineteen eighties,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: so it was harder to get a hold of phone
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: logs than it is today. Now. Barbier had submitted an
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: order for those phone logs, but the order had to
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: be signed by a judge still, and then it could
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: also take several more days beyond that to actually get
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the records, and so there was a bit of a wait. However,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: just then another officer knocked on Barbier's door and said
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: that a phone call had just come in from someone
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: claiming to have information about Francoise and Drone, and so
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Barbier he picks up the phone and he hears a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: woman's voice and this woman tells him that she has
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: information on Francoise, and Barbier immediately wondered, like, is this
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the same anonymous woman who called in before with that
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: tip that Francoise was the victim, but Barbier just couldn't
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: quite tell if it was the same voice. And so
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: this woman told Barbier that she had been a very
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: close friend of Francoise's and she knew about two men
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: named Michelle and Luke who might have been involved in
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Francoise's death. She said, right before she died, Francoise had
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: found out that these two men were secretly involved in
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: drug trafficking, and apparently they had talked about killing Francoise
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: if she reported them to the police. Specifically, the caller
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: said these two men had threatened Francoise that they would
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: drug her, bleed her out, chop her into pieces, and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: then cut off her head so she could never be identified.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Early the next morning, so on December twentieth, nineteen eighty eight,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: seven days after Francoise's body was found, Chief Inspector Barbier
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: pulled up outside of a discount store in a shopping
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: area in Tour. In front of the store, there were
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: two two men unloading boxes from a semi truck. Barbier
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: he got out of his car and he began walking
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: towards them and When these two men saw the detective approaching,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: they immediately seemed sort of panicked, and when Barbier got
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: close enough, he asked them if they were the store's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: owners Michelle and Luke, and one of the men nodded,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: at which point Barbier said, you two are coming with me.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: About an hour later, Barbier walked down the hallway at
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the police station, past the doors of the interrogation rooms
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: where Michelle and Luke were currently being held, but first
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: he wanted to speak to the third person the police
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: had brought in for questioning that morning, Sylvie Reverigo, who
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: happened to be Francoise's best friend and friends with Michelle
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: and Luke. And he sat down across from her and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: he basically said, look like, we know you're connected to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the two men, Michelle and Luke, and also to frand Soise,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: and we want to know if you know anything about
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: these two guys, because apparently they could have been threatening Francoise.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: We think they could be involved. Tell me everything you know.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: And Sylvie would tell Barbie that she was actually scared
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of Michelle and Luke and that was why she had
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: not come to police yet, because she was worried if
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: she told them what she knew, they would hurt her.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: She told Barbier that those two those two men had
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: told her, Sylvie, that they intended to kill Francoise because
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: they were worried that Francoise was going to report them
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: to police for drug trafficking and selling stolen cars. And
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Sylvie said she didn't know if they were actually capable
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: of that, but she just was too worried about going
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: to the police about it and feared they would find
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: out and then she would become a target as well.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And so he and Sylvie chatted for a bit longer,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and he got some additional information about when exactly they
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: spoke to her and said this, and some other details
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: about sort of their demeanor and the people they hung
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: out with. And then after that Barbier got up. He
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: left the interrogation room and in the hallway he caught
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: up with the detective who had actually already begun interrogating Luke,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and the detective said that so far Luke had totally
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: refused to cooperate and he'd outright denied even knowing who
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Sylvie was. Barbier sighed when he heard this, and he
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: had a feeling right away that Michelle was not going
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: to be any more cooperative, but he was going to
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: try his best to crack him. So Barbier went into
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the room where Michelle was being held, and after he
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: sat down, he just asked Michelle if he had seen
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the news about that woman who was found chopped up
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: in trash bags in a hospital parking lot, and Michelle
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: said yes, he had heard about that, and then he
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: made a joke that maybe a surgeon at the hospital
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: had made a pretty bad mistake or something. Barbier didn't
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: react to the joke, and instead he just pulled out
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a folder and slid it across the table and then Michelle.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: He opened it up and what he saw were photos
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of those blue trash bags and also photos of the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: severed body parts that had been found inside of them.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: And when Michelle saw these pictures, he went completely pale.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Barbier then asked Michelle, do you know who that body
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: belonged to? And Michelle he just looked up and shook
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: his head and said no. Barbier just stared at Michelle
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: for a moment, sort of just gauging his reaction, and
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: then eventually he said, well, the body belonged to Francoise Gendrone.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: When Michelle heard this, he really looked like he was
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: in complete shock. But Barbier immediately followed up and said, Michelle,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: did you kill Francois? And Michelle his reaction was to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: immediately shout no, that Francoise was a great friend of
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: his and he would never hurt her. Barbier was crazy
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: for thinking he would do that, And then again and again,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: he just insisted that he was completely innocent here now immediately,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Barbier thought Michelle's reaction here was pretty genuine. But just
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: then there was a knock on the door, and so
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Barbier he got up and he stepped out into the
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: hallway and another officer told him that the forensics team
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: had just found a piece of evidence that almost certainly
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: would crack this case wide open. Based on forensic evidence
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and an eventual confession. This is what police believe happened
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to Francoise Gendron. On the morning of December twelfth, nineteen
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: eighty eight, around ten am, the killer knocked on the
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: door of Francois's apartment. Princeoise answered the door, wrapped in
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a towel and told the killer to come on inside.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: The killer stepped in and they acted very friendly and casual,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: as if this visit was nothing out of the ordinary.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: But after the two had chatted for a while, the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: killer decided it was time to put their plan into action.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: After all, Francoise was a problem for them and they
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: had to deal with her once and for all. So
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: at some point, the killer told friends wise that they
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: had something they wanted to show her and asked if
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: she would come over to the Killer's home just for
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: a minute to show them. Francoise eventually agreed, and once
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: she got dressed, the two of them headed out together.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And so the two of them they walked their way
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to the killer's home. They go inside, and then before
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the killer is going to show Francoise, you know what,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: they brought them over here to show them. They first
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: made them both a pot of tea, and critically, the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: killer crushed up a few anti anxiety pills and put
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: those in the bottom of Francoise's cup of tea. Then
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the killer brought the tea over to the kitchen table
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: where Francoise was sitting, and the killer sat down with
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: her and they both drank their tea. The killer made
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: sure Francoise drank her entire cup, but by the time
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Francoise had finished her tea, she was so sedated from
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the drugs that she could barely sit up. At this point,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the killer knew they could move on to the next
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: phase of their plan, and so the killer at this
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: point lifted Francoise up out of the seat. She didn't
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: put up a fight, and they carried her over to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the bathroom and they put her into the tub and
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: they turned on the water, and then eventually, when the
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: water filled up high enough, the killer just pushed Francois's
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: head under the water. And again France was because of
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the drugs, couldn't do anything to stop it, and she
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: remained under the water until she fell unconscious. After Francoise
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: was dead, the killer simply drained the tub and then
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: cut Francoise's body into pieces to make it easier to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: dispose of. They took the pieces and shoved them into
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: blue trash bags and then dumped them in the parking
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: lot of a nearby hospital ten minutes away. But the
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: bigger problem for the killer was Francoise's head. The killer
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: wanted to completely erase Francoise's identity, so for that reason,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: they kept her head at their home. They would flush
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Francois's teeth down the toilet and they would take the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: other pieces of her head and they would throw them
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: into a nearby river. However, despite all this effort, the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: killer forgot one thing, which was they put Francoise's hands
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: in those blue trash bags, and so her body was
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: identified by her fingerprints just a few days later, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: then not long after that, a tip soon led the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: police right to the killer's door, and when they investigated
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the killer's home, they found crucial pieces of evidence in
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: her bathroom. The killer was Francoise's own best friend, Sylvie Reverigo.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Sylvie had always been sort of jealous of Francoise, primarily
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: because she seemed happy all the time, and on top
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: of that, Francoise got a lot of attention from men,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: which just again made Sylvie jealous. And since the two
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: women host divorce were spending so much time together, even
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: more than in their childhood, their friendship had gotten suffocatingly close,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: and over this recent period of time where they were
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: sort of on top of each other, Sylvie's jealousy and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: sort of resentment towards Francoise turned into full blown hatred. Initially,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Sylvia had tried to pin the murder on Michelle and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Luke by telling another friend of Francoise's, a woman named Yvette,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: that those two men had threatened to kill Frand Soise,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and just as Sylvie had hoped, Yvette had called the
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: police and passed along what she had said. But unbeknownst
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to Sylvie, Yvette also shared another tip with the investigators,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: which was that a few days after the murder, Yvette's
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: own daughter had happened to go to Sylvie's house and
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: her daughter had found two gold dental crowns in the toilet,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and the daughter and Yvette both knew that Franz Soise
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: had gold dental crowns. So by the time Sylvie was
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: brought in for questioning, Inspector Barbier was already pretty sure
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: she must have had something to do with Francoise's death,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and so police would search Sylvie's home and they would
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: find traces of blood, and they would also find some
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  Speaker 1: of France Swais's jewelry hidden inside of a box. And
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  Speaker 1: then when Sylvie was Confronted with all this evidence and
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  Speaker 1: Reverigo was charged with Francoise's murder on December twenty first,
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