Latest / Scam Goddess / Scammer for Scammer Love Affair, the Rockefeller X Cartier Story with Griffin Matthews
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Scal Come rob from Scam, Come rob that froll scam.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Goddess, what's popping? Congregation, it's your girl. Lacey Mostly aka
- 0:22Speaker 2: Scam got us back with another installment of the comedy
- 0:25Speaker 2: podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them, but we
- 0:30Speaker 2: will never blame the victims. Here, okay, period, congregation, you
- 0:34Speaker 2: already know I'm what yes, excited lated the real okay
- 0:40Speaker 2: ole you could even say, because our guest is ran
- 0:47Speaker 2: new to the congregation, so please get up and give
- 0:50Speaker 2: them a welcoming handshake and a hello. You've previously seen
- 0:54Speaker 2: them in the sequel to Spinal Tap Spinal Tap two,
- 0:57Speaker 2: The Flight Attendant on HBO, which is a personal favorite
- 0:59Speaker 2: of by that show Ran My Blood Pressure Up, Marvel
- 1:02Speaker 2: Sheethook and Season five of You with Penn Bachelor who
- 1:06Speaker 2: we love. And they recently moved to Madad two years
- 1:09Speaker 2: ago and will be appearing in a Spanish series in
- 1:12Speaker 2: Madrid called Miranda called Miranda, and they're currently writing a
- 1:20Speaker 2: screenplay about their life there in Spain. So there's so
- 1:23Speaker 2: much more that you can see of Griffin Matthews.
- 1:27Speaker 3: Yes, Griffin, thank you so much for being here Mina.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Your Spanish is incredible.
- 1:35Speaker 2: If I get in a real conversation, it's gonna be
- 1:37Speaker 2: hellos like this, Basi this BOSSI there's five literally me
- 1:45Speaker 2: literally was slower slower Okay, Combert, Okay, let's cucumbers. You
- 1:57Speaker 2: just put some extra RS on it. We did that
- 1:59Speaker 2: in Mexico.
- 1:59Speaker 1: Put some soul onto it. I get it. I'm there, cattle,
- 2:04Speaker 1: you know, like, wow, do you know your you know
- 2:08Speaker 1: Latino Spanish, Latin Spanish, which is different obviously from the Spanish,
- 2:14Speaker 1: or you know Spanish Spanish?
- 2:15Speaker 3: If you know?
- 2:16Speaker 2: Now I have a question, what what's your relationship with scams?
- 2:20Speaker 2: Like have you seen any new scams in Spain? How
- 2:24Speaker 2: did you, like, did you know Spanish before you went
- 2:26Speaker 2: to Spain?
- 2:27Speaker 1: Like no, I arrived to Spanish with Ola Gracias and
- 2:33Speaker 1: Taco Bell like I had nothing. I really knew nothing.
- 2:36Speaker 1: But I wanted to get out of America because I
- 2:38Speaker 1: just thought, we're not going to do this again. We're
- 2:41Speaker 1: just not that he won. My visa was stamped. I
- 2:44Speaker 1: was on a plane literally the next thing, and I said,
- 2:47Speaker 1: you know, I think it's time to end this scam
- 2:49Speaker 1: and go over to Spain. And I came on a
- 2:52Speaker 1: student visa. I was here to study Spanish for a
- 2:56Speaker 1: year and about six months into Spanish classes, which, by
- 3:01Speaker 1: the way, we're five days a week, four hours a day, brutal.
- 3:06Speaker 1: It was terrible. All of my classmates were like, it
- 3:10Speaker 1: was a crash course. All my classmates were like nineteen
- 3:12Speaker 1: year old Moroccans on their third language. It was what
- 3:15Speaker 1: so they were calling me a buelo, which means grandfather.
- 3:17Speaker 1: So but we got an email one day that school
- 3:22Speaker 1: was canceled for the day, which was thrilling to me.
- 3:24Speaker 1: I was elated. And then the following day it said
- 3:28Speaker 1: school is out of money. We are bankrupt. That's it,
- 3:31Speaker 1: no more school. I was like, okay, no problem. I
- 3:36Speaker 1: was thrilled. I don't have to do this anymore. But
- 3:38Speaker 1: I now needed to go get my money back for
- 3:40Speaker 1: the rest of the.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Year school.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Forever. Like so the school is part of them.
- 3:47Speaker 3: Because you're supposed to graduate.
- 3:51Speaker 2: You're supposed to graduate to school to school is like
- 3:53Speaker 2: were graduating you like you.
- 3:59Speaker 1: They divorced to us and took our money, ran the police.
- 4:04Speaker 1: We had to like follow a police report because we
- 4:06Speaker 1: also needed documents from the school saying that we had
- 4:09Speaker 1: quote unquote completed the course. Because when you go to
- 4:11Speaker 1: follow your next set of visa papers, you got to
- 4:13Speaker 1: show that you went to school. It was like I
- 4:15Speaker 1: had never done I had done six months, and I
- 4:18Speaker 1: had no proof that I had actually gone to school
- 4:20Speaker 1: in Spain. So my visa paperwork had been basically it
- 4:25Speaker 1: became a little bit of a nightmare. I've survived, but
- 4:28Speaker 1: it was not cute.
- 4:30Speaker 2: So this, this could potentially mess with your like immigration status.
- 4:34Speaker 2: This is like more even more serious, Like I'm kind
- 4:37Speaker 2: of laughing at the school, like leaving you and being
- 4:39Speaker 2: like bye, thank you guys so much. You guys are
- 4:42Speaker 2: so sick. You got it, no that you are the
- 4:49Speaker 2: butterflies that you are.
- 4:52Speaker 3: You don't need no more.
- 4:53Speaker 2: But it's actually not as funny as it seems because
- 4:57Speaker 2: your immigration status, like otherwise you got to come back
- 4:59Speaker 2: to the over here. I don't want that.
- 5:02Speaker 1: It was I have had some very very tough months
- 5:06Speaker 1: in the last year trying to get a different visa.
- 5:09Speaker 1: It's gone so far. I've applied for three different visas
- 5:13Speaker 1: and I have been denied three times. Wow, which is
- 5:16Speaker 1: insane because I'm coming with all the paperwork, I'm coming
- 5:19Speaker 1: with all the lawyers and I three times. And then
- 5:24Speaker 1: Spain passed a law for all those who are considered
- 5:27Speaker 1: quote unquote illegal immigrants that they had three months to
- 5:32Speaker 1: get a visa, like to come forward, state your status
- 5:35Speaker 1: and get your visa. One point two million people came forward.
- 5:40Speaker 1: I was one of those one point two million people,
- 5:43Speaker 1: and I had to file as an illegal immigrant because
- 5:47Speaker 1: my visa got denied three times after my student visa
- 5:51Speaker 1: was basically ended. So for the rest of my babe.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Babe, illegal immigrants in this country, you know how it
- 6:01Speaker 2: is just a dog was so, you know, for so
- 6:03Speaker 2: much bigotry. But like this could happen in America, does
- 6:06Speaker 2: happen in America? It happens everywhere. We're like to no
- 6:08Speaker 2: fault of your own. Your Spanish school decides to they
- 6:12Speaker 2: leave him, Yes, if.
- 6:16Speaker 1: They broke up, no, I'm sorry.
- 6:18Speaker 2: But the things they could have did was gave out
- 6:20Speaker 2: a little diploma.
- 6:22Speaker 1: They could have given the They could have said we're
- 6:24Speaker 1: we're bankrupt, you have a week to come get your documents.
- 6:28Speaker 1: They took off, babe, they just left. It was over.
- 6:31Speaker 1: It was bye bye adios.
- 6:33Speaker 2: That is terrific. So that's what bothered me because I'm
- 6:35Speaker 2: like y'all, okay, take my money.
- 6:37Speaker 1: I don't.
- 6:37Speaker 2: I don't like what you're doing, but like, and you're
- 6:39Speaker 2: taking me at least half of the education, and you
- 6:42Speaker 2: said it was rigorous.
- 6:43Speaker 3: It was four hours and everything. But at the same time, like.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Damn if y'all go run off, like they could have
- 6:48Speaker 2: just left out a signed document, that's not right, that's.
- 6:52Speaker 1: It, and we didn't. And I have I have a
- 6:56Speaker 1: tremendous amount of respect for immigrants of all time, in
- 7:00Speaker 1: all places, because I'm also here with my children. I
- 7:04Speaker 1: have created an entire life in Spain, and to become
- 7:09Speaker 1: illegal has been insane, Like you cannot exit the country
- 7:14Speaker 1: because you're worried that you can't get back into the country.
- 7:16Speaker 1: My children are going to school here, I have a
- 7:19Speaker 1: house here. It was just like everything got it actually
- 7:23Speaker 1: came very serious, and so I am now waiting for
- 7:27Speaker 1: the documents to hopefully get this immigrant status visa.
- 7:32Speaker 2: That is, you know, praying for you, my figures across
- 7:35Speaker 2: my toes across do you was there anything in the
- 7:39Speaker 2: school at the time that kind of seems like, huh,
- 7:43Speaker 2: maybe they're losing money, or like oh we do I
- 7:45Speaker 2: know pistols today, or like like is there anything that
- 7:49Speaker 2: was give me like for real, where is the tech
- 7:57Speaker 2: the library?
- 7:59Speaker 1: You know, what's with now that we're talking about this,
- 8:01Speaker 1: because yes, there were some signs that there were also
- 8:03Speaker 1: some like odd things. So the teachers were going in
- 8:06Speaker 1: and out, like someone would come in, get fired, go out.
- 8:09Speaker 1: One of our teachers got fired in the middle of
- 8:11Speaker 1: you know, like literally almost like kind of the day.
- 8:14Speaker 1: He went on for lunch break, came back and said
- 8:16Speaker 1: I've been fired, so like it was that was the
- 8:19Speaker 1: start of me going what's going on? Another teacher came,
- 8:21Speaker 1: then another teacher left. We were getting you know, around door,
- 8:25Speaker 1: like the revolving door of teachers should have been the
- 8:28Speaker 1: first sign. The second sign is they were taking anybody
- 8:31Speaker 1: at any time, like we're in the middle of our
- 8:33Speaker 1: course and in comes a girl from Russia, in comes
- 8:36Speaker 1: a girl from China, and you just like, okay, but
- 8:38Speaker 1: we've been here since day one. She's starting now, like
- 8:42Speaker 1: how does how is she.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Going to catch starting like one of those little kids
- 8:45Speaker 2: swim classes that like the last week where they're gonna
- 8:48Speaker 2: like throw you in the pool with all your clothes on,
- 8:50Speaker 2: like I feel like you gotta starting the bubbles.
- 8:53Speaker 3: In the beginning like that, like throwing me in a
- 8:56Speaker 3: detail ends.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Pull kicking feet, That's where you need to start. We
- 9:00Speaker 1: were starting like people were just coming in and out
- 9:03Speaker 1: new students all the time. And I think now looking back,
- 9:06Speaker 1: they were just taking people's money. They were like, let's
- 9:08Speaker 1: get this cash so that. But here comes a Really,
- 9:12Speaker 1: it just dawned on me the school was also doing renovations.
- 9:16Speaker 1: When you said don I was like, they were renovating
- 9:21Speaker 1: the cafeteria, the books area, the library area. How is
- 9:26Speaker 1: that where the money went? Is that where the money?
- 9:28Speaker 3: But then why would something that they were.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Well, why were they renovating if they had no money?
- 9:34Speaker 1: Let's get through it. It has occurred to me that
- 9:40Speaker 1: it was very possible. My lawyer sent me to a
- 9:43Speaker 1: woman who only spoke Russian, and the Russian woman did
- 9:48Speaker 1: my documents. On listen, I'm not throwing Russia under the bus.
- 9:51Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Russian lady sent me the document, why
- 9:55Speaker 1: not let's just throw them under the bus. They sent
- 9:57Speaker 1: me documents in Russia that I had to get translated
- 10:01Speaker 1: to understand how to get into the school. I don't
- 10:03Speaker 1: know where the money went. It don't matter to me.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Also, I've kind of heard of some third party things
- 10:09Speaker 2: where they'll get involved to help Americans get into a
- 10:12Speaker 2: school in another country, and they tend to be a
- 10:14Speaker 2: little shady.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Sometimes it didn't register at the time, but right now
- 10:18Speaker 1: you're saying it, and I'm scared. I think that's what happened.
- 10:22Speaker 1: I think Russia took the money and ran.
- 10:25Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to agree, yes.
- 10:27Speaker 2: So the Russia of it all actually is not that
- 10:30Speaker 2: surprising to me, because it's also like convenient for us.
- 10:33Speaker 2: It's like people who are not familiar with the country
- 10:36Speaker 2: to have like someone who's supposed to be guiding us,
- 10:39Speaker 2: helping us.
- 10:41Speaker 1: It's very much an immigrant story. The things that I
- 10:44Speaker 1: have seen and learned, the scams that I have seen,
- 10:47Speaker 1: even from living here and looking back at America and
- 10:50Speaker 1: being like we're being scammed as well as Americans. The
- 10:55Speaker 1: things that I have seen, the things that I have learned.
- 10:57Speaker 2: I love that you're giving this immigrant story from the
- 11:03Speaker 2: perspective of an American moving somewhere else too, because I
- 11:07Speaker 2: feel like whenever I hear other than just like personal
- 11:10Speaker 2: friends and family of mine who are immigrants, and then
- 11:12Speaker 2: it's much more real. But I feel like if I'm
- 11:13Speaker 2: ever hearing about like someone you know moving to a
- 11:16Speaker 2: different country in America, it's always like.
- 11:19Speaker 3: We came over with three dallas and.
- 11:24Speaker 2: A stick with a bandanna is on the it was like,
- 11:27Speaker 2: it's always the most intense like so it's it's like
- 11:32Speaker 2: a modern immigration.
- 11:33Speaker 3: I like to hear about as well.
- 11:35Speaker 1: Because I stopped calling myself an expat because at first
- 11:38Speaker 1: you come with all the privilege of feeling like I'm
- 11:41Speaker 1: an ex pat, and then it became very real to
- 11:45Speaker 1: me that I was not an expat. I was an immigrant,
- 11:47Speaker 1: and I had to learn a new culture, a new language.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I didn't know what was happening. You literally don't know
- 11:54Speaker 1: what's happening. You find yourself like I remember living in
- 11:57Speaker 1: New York and you going to laundromat and there was
- 11:59Speaker 1: like an Asian woman in laundromat running it, and she
- 12:01Speaker 1: was just like yes, yes, yes, and great, and I
- 12:05Speaker 1: am that lady. Now I am the Asian lady in
- 12:08Speaker 1: the laudroymat going see see see see see. I don't
- 12:11Speaker 1: know what they're saying. I don't know what's happening, and
- 12:14Speaker 1: so much of my life here feels. While it's amazing,
- 12:18Speaker 1: it is also disorienting because of course I am funnier
- 12:22Speaker 1: in English, I am smarter at English and in Spanish
- 12:26Speaker 1: I'm like Joe, so I sympactico. That's it. I am nice.
- 12:31Speaker 1: You just find that you can't express yourself, and then
- 12:34Speaker 1: when things are really going down, our school closing you,
- 12:38Speaker 1: you can't. You cannot communicate the things that you wanted.
- 12:41Speaker 1: There is no nuance in your language. You were just
- 12:44Speaker 1: you know, hang with.
- 12:45Speaker 2: With griff love. Luckily you have another scam of your sleep,
- 12:50Speaker 2: like you're attractive, may incredibly attractive.
- 12:53Speaker 3: So now's the time for you to lead into being hot.
- 12:56Speaker 2: Sorry, it was fun when you were like smart in English,
- 12:59Speaker 2: but now now you're just a Spaniard hot dummy.
- 13:04Speaker 3: Now a few you'll probably be waxing poetic.
- 13:09Speaker 1: Listen, I want to be Sophia Vargata in Espanya. I
- 13:13Speaker 1: was like, oh, it occurred to me somewhere in the journey,
- 13:17Speaker 1: all of a sudden. I had never thought about it.
- 13:19Speaker 1: But I have the accent. So when they see me.
- 13:22Speaker 1: The way that Spanish men approached me is very different
- 13:27Speaker 1: than American. They think I'm cute, okay, suavely, I'm my skin,
- 13:31Speaker 1: I have no hair. They're all very hairy and beards
- 13:34Speaker 1: and mustaches and I have nothing and they're like, oh suave, oh,
- 13:39Speaker 1: And it's just a different way of even seeing myself
- 13:41Speaker 1: in the world and being like I think I lived
- 13:44Speaker 1: both in New York and LA in this industry where
- 13:47Speaker 1: all we're always trying to chase beauty, and I never
- 13:49Speaker 1: quite felt so beautiful. I felt like I'm okay, I
- 13:53Speaker 1: think I work and here people the word that they
- 13:58Speaker 1: use is guapoky.
- 14:04Speaker 3: So yes, I love this and I love this for me.
- 14:07Speaker 3: Have you noticed, like.
- 14:12Speaker 1: For me, you're in LA, you come here and then
- 14:15Speaker 1: love it.
- 14:16Speaker 2: I know that's it's on my stop list next. So
- 14:19Speaker 2: I lived in Ireland fray months and then I you know,
- 14:22Speaker 2: I've lived in the UK, and then I've gotten to
- 14:24Speaker 2: France enough friends they know how I feel, but you
- 14:31Speaker 2: know enough. But yeah, I wanted Spain is definitely up next.
- 14:35Speaker 2: I want to do that this year. But like, do
- 14:37Speaker 2: you notice any scammy differences between like Spain and like America?
- 14:42Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we know that America is a scam.
- 14:44Speaker 2: It was built on scams like that. I mean it's
- 14:47Speaker 2: literally like they started on like by stealing people and
- 14:50Speaker 2: then we became a superpower by producing two thirds of
- 14:53Speaker 2: the world's cotton from the stolen people.
- 14:55Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
- 14:56Speaker 2: It's like we've never been We've never really been leugerit,
- 15:00Speaker 2: which is why it's so strange that this was the
- 15:02Speaker 2: two hundred and fiftieth year of American and it's like,
- 15:04Speaker 2: what are we really celebrating and the people want to
- 15:07Speaker 2: be like when when it was good?
- 15:08Speaker 3: Now? Like when was it good?
- 15:12Speaker 1: When was it good? Yeah? Guano when no? I know.
- 15:17Speaker 1: The thing about living here is like I today, like
- 15:21Speaker 1: in summer vacation, and I have two kids. They want
- 15:23Speaker 1: to go to McDonald's. I have not eaten McDonald's in
- 15:25Speaker 1: twenty years. Literally whatever is in McDonald's to shred. It
- 15:31Speaker 1: is mad that here I can eat McDonald's breakfast, lunch,
- 15:35Speaker 1: and dinner at two am, have no problems. My stomach
- 15:38Speaker 1: medication done. I don't need to use it. The minute
- 15:41Speaker 1: I stepped foot in New York City or LA. Even
- 15:44Speaker 1: if I'm eating organic, whole foods Ariwhona, my stomach still
- 15:48Speaker 1: starts going. And so like I can eat anything in Spain,
- 15:52Speaker 1: and I think, like, you know, maybe the healthcare thing
- 15:57Speaker 1: is wild to feel medicine doesn't cost what did you say.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Anything hell at the care, Hell hell out the care,
- 16:08Speaker 2: hell the.
- 16:09Speaker 1: Care, Hell, hells care health care. Okay, Helly's care.
- 16:15Speaker 3: Doesn't Okay, I've heard of hell Carrey.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Helen's caray. In in America, it's called hell care, call
- 16:22Speaker 1: hell care, hell baby put you and we don't get
- 16:27Speaker 1: they put you through hell. They put you through hell.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Like listen, I'm not trying to romanticize Spain. There's a
- 16:33Speaker 1: lot of things, but like, my son is getting his
- 16:36Speaker 1: tonsils out this summer and I asked the doctor, like,
- 16:38Speaker 1: how much is it going to cost bracing for he's eight,
- 16:41Speaker 1: He's got to stay overnight and then another day. They
- 16:43Speaker 1: want him there for a day. By the way, I
- 16:45Speaker 1: got my tonsils out maybe five years ago. They go,
- 16:48Speaker 1: you go in and get the fuck out like they want.
- 16:51Speaker 1: I was in so much pain. I was basically dying.
- 16:53Speaker 1: They said, get in, get out. They sent me home
- 16:56Speaker 1: on so much drugs, so many drugs here. They're like, no, no, no,
- 16:59Speaker 1: he's gonna for a whole day. We want to observe.
- 17:02Speaker 1: I said, what is that bill going to be? Just
- 17:05Speaker 1: give it to me, and they were like, what do
- 17:08Speaker 1: you mean what is this being? They didn't understand the
- 17:10Speaker 1: question what's the bill? Like, give it to what is
- 17:13Speaker 1: the number? I will then pay already because I need.
- 17:15Speaker 2: The bill first so that I can fight with the company,
- 17:18Speaker 2: because I know y'all gonna extra one hundred feet out
- 17:20Speaker 2: of the band a fees and she's got start fighting
- 17:21Speaker 2: y'all in need And they're like, what.
- 17:24Speaker 1: I wanted the bill because I wanted to know if
- 17:26Speaker 1: I was going to pull the tonsils out myself. I
- 17:29Speaker 1: was like, say the wrong number and I'm going in.
- 17:31Speaker 1: So the number was zero, the number was zero, Bring
- 17:36Speaker 1: them in, We'll take the tonsils out and then you know,
- 17:38Speaker 1: after twenty four hours, go home and we'll observe come
- 17:41Speaker 1: back for It's wild people are, you know posting GoFundMe
- 17:45Speaker 1: campaigns for heart attacks, aneurysms, cancer in the States. It's
- 17:50Speaker 1: weird now to look at it from over here and
- 17:53Speaker 1: see people like needing three hundred thousand dollars three hundred out.
- 17:58Speaker 1: My Spanish friends are like what is happening in America?
- 18:01Speaker 1: Like what what is that? And I'm like, babe, it's
- 18:04Speaker 1: a scal.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Yeah, we slowly we are, you know, we've been the
- 18:09Speaker 2: frogs in the boiling water for a long time now
- 18:11Speaker 2: and everybody knows it, so I try not to harp
- 18:13Speaker 2: too much on it. But you know, even with the
- 18:16Speaker 2: gofummy thing like that has become like overcrowded to where
- 18:21Speaker 2: like you gotta have a good story, like if if
- 18:23Speaker 2: you if you got an illness, like bro, we need
- 18:25Speaker 2: to see that you can pay, like Bob Ross, Like we.
- 18:28Speaker 3: Need to know like if we give you life.
- 18:30Speaker 2: If we pay for this for this treatment, that you
- 18:33Speaker 2: really gonna get out here and do something with your life.
- 18:35Speaker 3: We can't be paying all this money for you to
- 18:38Speaker 3: sit on your couch.
- 18:39Speaker 2: We got other people's assurance to fun and it's like
- 18:41Speaker 2: what are we doing?
- 18:43Speaker 1: Listen, you have to have a movie on gofundbing that
- 18:47Speaker 1: really moves people. You're wrong for Bob Ross by the
- 18:50Speaker 1: way that white man in wrong for him.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Talent you need to have so we can make sure
- 18:56Speaker 2: we're not you know, giving you go use the money
- 18:58Speaker 2: to play a video games would be four chant with them?
- 19:02Speaker 2: Why are we Why are we helping you get that
- 19:04Speaker 2: new kidney if you're not gonna be out here, you know,
- 19:07Speaker 2: saving the world with it.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Yeah, which is so sick, Like how are.
- 19:11Speaker 2: We supposed to be like trying to help decide who
- 19:14Speaker 2: lives or dies.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Like this is what it's. It's this is a very
- 19:19Speaker 1: massive scam. And again I have had the privilege of
- 19:24Speaker 1: exiting America and looking at it. You get once you leave,
- 19:28Speaker 1: you get a different vantage point of your country. And
- 19:31Speaker 1: some of the things that I've seen since i've been here,
- 19:33Speaker 1: basic healthcare. They call it human rights. Everyone in August
- 19:38Speaker 1: will leave Spain. Everybody, people go on vacation. It's like
- 19:41Speaker 1: it's we're done. Spain is basically shut down, certainly Madrid,
- 19:45Speaker 1: and and I'm like, how can everyone go on vacation
- 19:48Speaker 1: for a month. And they said it's called human rights,
- 19:51Speaker 1: it's human right. When I tell them, like you're in America,
- 19:54Speaker 1: you're lucky if you get the two weeks sometimes it's unpaid.
- 19:57Speaker 1: They're like two weeks, it's not they get like eight
- 20:01Speaker 1: weeks of vacation a year.
- 20:03Speaker 2: And so like somehow the country is so functions. That's
- 20:06Speaker 2: what I'm just like, we've all been committed from how
- 20:08Speaker 2: it's functions. Like I can't believe we're trying to get
- 20:10Speaker 2: back on the hamster wheel after COVID, because after everybody
- 20:13Speaker 2: was sitting in their houses, you know, for however long
- 20:15Speaker 2: or maybe you weren't at all, but just seeing that
- 20:19Speaker 2: that was possible, everyone was like, wait a minute, that's
- 20:22Speaker 2: not a government was like we got to get people back, realize.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Get them back. Well, our country is built on capitalism,
- 20:29Speaker 1: and like here it is legal to text your employees
- 20:32Speaker 1: after work. You cannot send them a text after work
- 20:35Speaker 1: if they can report you like seven pm. It's like
- 20:38Speaker 1: you cannot text anybody and so, and they don't text
- 20:41Speaker 1: you back, by the way, they don't text you back,
- 20:44Speaker 1: and so, Like, I think that's part of it, is
- 20:46Speaker 1: like just realizing where our humanity lies and our human rights.
- 20:50Speaker 1: I think it's like, you know, we have been scammed
- 20:54Speaker 1: into capitalism, and.
- 20:57Speaker 2: I feel like we if so many of the people
- 21:00Speaker 2: who are really like yanking us down in America traveled,
- 21:04Speaker 2: I feel like they would be completely different people.
- 21:08Speaker 1: What's the passport. It's like eighty percent of Americans on
- 21:11Speaker 1: a passport. It's something it's like a very.
- 21:13Speaker 3: Very passport, are very liberal wing exactly.
- 21:17Speaker 1: And so I think the people that say they can't
- 21:20Speaker 1: imagine that we could have free school, free health care,
- 21:25Speaker 1: daycare things, it's because you've never seen it. They think
- 21:28Speaker 1: America is going to crumble if that all happens, and
- 21:30Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, no, you would want everyone to
- 21:34Speaker 1: go to college. Everyone think about how we voted. The
- 21:37Speaker 1: people that went to college, think about those numbers and
- 21:40Speaker 1: how they voted versus people that did not go to
- 21:42Speaker 1: higher education, how they voted. They want you to not know.
- 21:47Speaker 1: They don't want you to know. And so when you're
- 21:49Speaker 1: here and you see they're like, especially people are very
- 21:52Speaker 1: involved in world politics. They are watching America. They are
- 21:56Speaker 1: also watching Germany, they are watching Israel.
- 21:58Speaker 2: They are too visited being geopolitically involved.
- 22:02Speaker 3: Now, am I? Yes? Okay?
- 22:04Speaker 2: Can I tell you all about the Sadamore? Who's gonna
- 22:06Speaker 2: tell you all about you know, because of strip? Can
- 22:08Speaker 2: I tell you all about Yes, But the average American
- 22:11Speaker 2: they barely know what's going on.
- 22:13Speaker 3: They don't know locally, and they barely know.
- 22:15Speaker 1: They're chasing money. They're chasing money. We are chasing money.
- 22:19Speaker 1: I am chasing I've been a part of it. I'm
- 22:21Speaker 1: not trying to separate myself from it. But we are
- 22:24Speaker 1: a capitalistic society, and it keeps people on a hamster wheel.
- 22:27Speaker 1: For sure, myself included, like I was fully on that
- 22:30Speaker 1: hamster wheel, and sometimes even for me like it's hard
- 22:35Speaker 1: because the pace of Spain is so much lower. Even
- 22:37Speaker 1: though Madrid is a major metropolitan city, it is so
- 22:40Speaker 1: slow when you want to get something done, so slow.
- 22:43Speaker 1: When people are walking, they are walking so slow. They
- 22:46Speaker 1: don't move when they're you're coming on the sidewalk, they're
- 22:48Speaker 1: not moving. They're just talking. Old ladies are standing in
- 22:52Speaker 1: the middle of the sidewalk, not moving and they're not
- 22:56Speaker 1: going to ye And it takes my system. I think
- 22:59Speaker 1: it took my system like six months to like really
- 23:01Speaker 1: start to go. Oh, maybe we should walk a little slower.
- 23:05Speaker 1: Maybe we should not answer work texts after seven pm.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Maybe we should like sit and have dinner together and
- 23:10Speaker 1: have four hour long dinners. It's normal. Normal. By the way,
- 23:16Speaker 1: a glass of wine is four euros here, wow. Three.
- 23:22Speaker 1: That is why people sit on the plaza and drink
- 23:25Speaker 1: and eat because and also when you get a glass
- 23:27Speaker 1: of wine, they bring you a little top up with it.
- 23:29Speaker 1: That you can't just feed someone. You can't just get
- 23:32Speaker 1: someone alcohol and not give them a little wood. Yeah,
- 23:35Speaker 1: so I say what I tell people, like, a glass
- 23:37Speaker 1: of wine in New York can be easily twenty dollars.
- 23:39Speaker 1: They're like, what come on, come ony.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Yeah, like scam and you're not doing nothing to eat. Okay,
- 23:46Speaker 2: bars don't even need the bars, just have olives, nuts,
- 23:49Speaker 2: they say, have all that. And now it's like you
- 23:51Speaker 2: gotta be at the fanciest. We gotta be a king
- 23:53Speaker 2: cold to get a get a bus, a great at
- 23:56Speaker 2: a damn bar.
- 23:58Speaker 3: So I'm with you on that for sure.
- 23:59Speaker 2: And I had to learn the patients thing when I
- 24:02Speaker 2: was living in uh well, London but really an island
- 24:05Speaker 2: because I was an island much longer than I lived
- 24:07Speaker 2: in London, and just like going places and being like
- 24:09Speaker 2: can I get this?
- 24:10Speaker 3: And they'll be like, yeah, that'll be thirty minutes.
- 24:12Speaker 2: I'm like, I asked you for four bacon and changes
- 24:17Speaker 2: you got six minutes?
- 24:19Speaker 1: Yeah, you will be coming back there.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Like my Inmergy was very like oh bit. And then
- 24:24Speaker 2: eventually I let it take over me and let it
- 24:26Speaker 2: wash it. I was like, okay, yeah, thirty minutes all
- 24:28Speaker 2: I have a time.
- 24:28Speaker 3: What am I gonna do?
- 24:29Speaker 1: Die?
- 24:31Speaker 3: You're not, that's see, I'll hear back.
- 24:36Speaker 1: You're not gonna die. Go jump in the sea. They're
- 24:38Speaker 1: gonna go back there and actually like kill the pig
- 24:40Speaker 1: back there, like it's going to be fresh and so.
- 24:46Speaker 3: You know, you're like and the next thing you hear like, well.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Baby, yes, yes, so you know, oh that's the train off.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Well, speaking of American excess, let's get into our historic
- 25:05Speaker 2: hoodwink here. Today I will be regaling Griffin with a
- 25:09Speaker 2: famous Caper Khan.
- 25:11Speaker 3: Group of criminals. Maybe we like them, maybe we hate them.
- 25:14Speaker 2: We'll see along the way and keep it a real
- 25:17Speaker 2: American an excessive. We're gonna be talking about a fake
- 25:20Speaker 2: cardier heiress Andrea Bartzen, who fell in love with a
- 25:25Speaker 2: fake oil baron Matthew Roca Feller, and together they teamed
- 25:31Speaker 2: up to crash the parties of actually rich family like
- 25:35Speaker 2: the actual rich family dynasties. So this is Andrea Bartson.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Andrea moved to New York in the late nineties as
- 25:44Speaker 2: a single gal in her thirties from Ohio, Okay, Ohio, Ohio.
- 25:51Speaker 3: And we see her right here.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Yes, she's giving very Ohio. I'm from Pittsburgh.
- 26:01Speaker 3: I went to pitt Bibbs.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Base.
- 26:04Speaker 2: Oh so I scammed into Carmony Milkan for my voice
- 26:08Speaker 2: Lessens Bibbs.
- 26:12Speaker 3: No, oh my god, we were right there. That's crazy.
- 26:15Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
- 26:16Speaker 1: Wow.
- 26:17Speaker 2: You know about the oh, you know about okay, you
- 26:19Speaker 2: know about wowstop flabby. That's a different flam. But we
- 26:24Speaker 2: can claim a both. But I digress.
- 26:26Speaker 3: We will talk about that at some point.
- 26:27Speaker 2: But so Andrea here, she's seen her Tiffany blue. She's
- 26:32Speaker 2: got her rich white lady chunk necklace on. I feel
- 26:36Speaker 2: like that's all I see in a chunk necklace. It's
- 26:40Speaker 2: either like a kindergarten teacher or like a rich white
- 26:43Speaker 2: lady who like, I don't know, like her friend has
- 26:45Speaker 2: a jewelry line and she like paid six grand for
- 26:48Speaker 2: the chunk.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Is it a chunk or a conch? What is it?
- 26:53Speaker 3: It's like chunky. It's like the chunky.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Oh, I was like the shells a college.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Said, yeah, you think I should like the kids? I
- 27:03Speaker 2: love itels like I can't read good.
- 27:06Speaker 1: I thought you were being extra black just for the chunk.
- 27:10Speaker 1: I said, okay, she's got a chunk on. I'll go
- 27:12Speaker 1: with it.
- 27:13Speaker 3: But that does also work.
- 27:14Speaker 2: So I see her context here, because it's definitely a
- 27:17Speaker 2: pooka shell out here.
- 27:18Speaker 3: It's not alwayster. I mean, I always throw on my god,
- 27:20Speaker 3: it's a pearl or two.
- 27:23Speaker 1: A clam a pearl. I don't know what that starfish.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Right, it's given like, yeah, we after red Lobster was
- 27:30Speaker 2: done with it, we sprushed it up. But it's just
- 27:33Speaker 2: I don't know, It's just like because I only see
- 27:35Speaker 2: a certain type of like woman, I agree.
- 27:38Speaker 3: So but here she is. You know, she got her
- 27:41Speaker 3: a little champagne flue.
- 27:42Speaker 2: That's definitely like she had somebody's event where they were
- 27:44Speaker 2: passing around flutes. We love this for her. So she
- 27:47Speaker 2: moved from Ohio in the late nineties. So it's giving
- 27:50Speaker 2: Carrie Bradshaw era of New York City where the girls
- 27:55Speaker 2: were heels places and you know, had apartments that were
- 27:58Speaker 2: rent controlled, be nice.
- 28:01Speaker 1: I didn't have that era. I never lived that era.
- 28:04Speaker 1: My apartment was not.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Running same and I lived in one of those regitified
- 28:08Speaker 2: areas that was explicifits fun Bedwick Best out Door and
- 28:14Speaker 2: I slash Bushwick Yah, and they were gone.
- 28:17Speaker 3: In Bedwick, so you know how it is.
- 28:19Speaker 2: But anyways, so soon she like met a boyfriend that
- 28:24Speaker 2: she moved in with and he worked in finance, living
- 28:28Speaker 2: together in an apartment that was almost in the West village,
- 28:31Speaker 2: so it was almost like West Village of bac not
- 28:33Speaker 2: so I was West Village of a Jason after they
- 28:35Speaker 2: broke up. She claimed to work in pharmaceutical advertising, so
- 28:39Speaker 2: that's what she was doing. Now she said she had
- 28:40Speaker 2: gone to mi T and that she worked in biotech.
- 28:44Speaker 2: Now remember she's from Ohio.
- 28:46Speaker 1: Yes, not bio Ohio, Ohio.
- 28:50Speaker 2: But now she's saying that she worked at mi T,
- 28:53Speaker 2: or like she went to mi T, which is the
- 28:56Speaker 2: same thing here about that actually happening, or like you
- 28:59Speaker 2: said anything in biotech, Ohio, not bio.
- 29:02Speaker 3: That was beautiful, Griffin. It took me a second. It
- 29:05Speaker 3: took me a second. That was really beautiful. I love
- 29:07Speaker 3: that for me.
- 29:09Speaker 2: So she would commute from the office to get drinks
- 29:12Speaker 2: on the Upper East Side, or like the occasional charity benefit,
- 29:15Speaker 2: which looks like she's at one of those. Now that
- 29:17Speaker 2: flu is giving, Like we're here to raise awareness.
- 29:21Speaker 1: That's it.
- 29:22Speaker 2: It's giving that like I don't know what we need
- 29:24Speaker 2: to be aware of, but we're here to raise it.
- 29:26Speaker 1: And by the end of the night, yeah, we're going
- 29:34Speaker 1: to raise the awarenesses.
- 29:38Speaker 2: And then we're always like, why don't you just donate
- 29:40Speaker 2: to the cause with all this money that you're doing,
- 29:43Speaker 2: throwing this gallop and they're like no, no, no, no, we
- 29:45Speaker 2: need the party for the awareness it.
- 29:47Speaker 1: That's it correct.
- 29:49Speaker 2: So she's like getting drinks on the perst side, doing
- 29:53Speaker 2: these benefits. She was always friendly and chatty and always
- 29:57Speaker 2: offered to buy people a drink at these parts, but
- 30:00Speaker 2: she actually couldn't hold down a job and had no money,
- 30:05Speaker 2: so she was tea pain.
- 30:07Speaker 3: Dudes. They're like, I'm aa buy you a drink?
- 30:09Speaker 1: Okay, uh huh with what? With what? On what? I'm
- 30:14Speaker 1: already confused. How are you buying drinks with no money?
- 30:16Speaker 3: I ain't got no money.
- 30:19Speaker 1: You help me because I would like to buy drinks
- 30:21Speaker 1: with no money. Help me?
- 30:23Speaker 3: Well, it does say offered. So maybe she was just around.
- 30:27Speaker 2: What if she was doing this like where she got
- 30:29Speaker 2: her one drinker or maybe picked up somebody's when they
- 30:31Speaker 2: walked away, and then she comes over and she's like,
- 30:34Speaker 2: next rounds on me.
- 30:36Speaker 1: That is not her flute. She found that what's in
- 30:39Speaker 1: her hand is not hers.
- 30:40Speaker 3: It is drinked out.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Over there, it's dranked down. It might even be water, babe,
- 30:45Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that is.
- 30:47Speaker 2: So in twenty fourteen, she was so desperate for money
- 30:51Speaker 2: that I don't like how they said she was desperate
- 30:53Speaker 2: for money like that don't think that's like being like
- 30:55Speaker 2: she was so desperate for oxygen, Like I think money
- 30:58Speaker 2: is something.
- 30:58Speaker 3: You need to live.
- 31:00Speaker 1: You do need that.
- 31:01Speaker 3: I need it, but I guess because she didn't have
- 31:03Speaker 3: any of it at all.
- 31:05Speaker 2: The desperation was high dollars so for uh so she
- 31:10Speaker 2: does her for this money that she took a housekeeping
- 31:13Speaker 2: job from Anna Rothschild, a celebrity publicist she'd met through
- 31:17Speaker 2: her charity networking. Anna paid Andrea twenty dollars an hour
- 31:22Speaker 2: to unpack boxes and tidy up her new apartment. They
- 31:26Speaker 2: lost such until twenty nineteen, when Andrea came to Anna
- 31:29Speaker 2: for help again. She said, Anna, I got a job again.
- 31:34Speaker 2: I don't got no money and I don't have a
- 31:35Speaker 2: place to live. And I used to be your maiden Manhan.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Work is that, Jennifer lopens.
- 31:43Speaker 3: Yes, that was work.
- 31:44Speaker 1: I like that.
- 31:45Speaker 3: It was one of her marriage movies. You know she
- 31:47Speaker 3: had a lot of marriage.
- 31:48Speaker 1: Movies and in real life too.
- 31:51Speaker 2: Yes, art imitating life imitating art art. So Anna had
- 31:57Speaker 2: an empty London apartment that she was trying to sell.
- 32:01Speaker 2: Andrea could stay there for free, as long as she
- 32:03Speaker 2: left the unit empty for showings. A few weeks later,
- 32:07Speaker 2: Anna's real estate agent called from London and said Andrea
- 32:10Speaker 2: was hanging out with no underwear on when he arrived
- 32:14Speaker 2: for a showing and she wouldn't leave. Four months later,
- 32:19Speaker 2: she was still living there keeping it from being sold,
- 32:21Speaker 2: and Anna had to show up personally to kick her out.
- 32:25Speaker 2: So Andrea said, hey, you can live in my London
- 32:28Speaker 2: apartment absolutely free. Just make sure you're leaving a cute
- 32:31Speaker 2: for the showings. And Andrea said, okay, cool, I'm a
- 32:36Speaker 2: walk around with my booty out, and then when potential
- 32:39Speaker 2: buyers come, I'm not putting my booty away and I'm
- 32:42Speaker 2: not leaving.
- 32:43Speaker 1: I'm so confused by this story. What she's squatting? Is
- 32:47Speaker 1: that what's going on?
- 32:47Speaker 2: So she used to work for Anna Rothschild in New York.
- 32:52Speaker 3: She was cleaning, right, Yeah.
- 32:54Speaker 1: I got it. But she just decided she was going
- 32:57Speaker 1: to be in the apartment booty naked and just refusing
- 32:59Speaker 1: to leave.
- 33:01Speaker 3: That's part that's not making sense to you, grand following.
- 33:07Speaker 2: You have never just squatted in somebody's apartment and they
- 33:10Speaker 2: hung out booty naked there, because that's that feels like
- 33:13Speaker 2: a normal thing to do, Like in New York.
- 33:15Speaker 1: I've squatted totally squatted. But when they told me to
- 33:18Speaker 1: get out, I got out. There's a difference. I did know.
- 33:21Speaker 3: Again, you put your clothes back on and you got out.
- 33:23Speaker 1: You've got to put the clothes on it get out.
- 33:25Speaker 1: That's you've got to do that part. That's part of squatting,
- 33:28Speaker 1: I suppose in New York, because they'll just kill you
- 33:31Speaker 1: if you don't get out. That's the whole thing.
- 33:33Speaker 3: Oh damn. Okay, yeah, I guess.
- 33:35Speaker 2: I guess I have to throw my bra at that
- 33:37Speaker 2: point and put the way and then get out.
- 33:41Speaker 3: Okay, that's right, you're right. I got more class than that.
- 33:44Speaker 1: You're right.
- 33:45Speaker 2: So at this point, Anna's pissed, right, she had to
- 33:48Speaker 2: go kick her out personally, you know, put her strapper,
- 33:51Speaker 2: bron herself and boot her out the door. So Anna
- 33:55Speaker 2: cut her off at this point. But even without a
- 33:58Speaker 2: home or a car, Andrea kept popping up at yacht
- 34:02Speaker 2: and cocktail parties in the Hamptons wearing body codd dresses.
- 34:07Speaker 3: So here's Andrea.
- 34:09Speaker 2: She just looks like a white woman who is rich,
- 34:12Speaker 2: because you know, like you there's two types. If it's
- 34:15Speaker 2: like the Hampton's like party scene in the summertime, you
- 34:18Speaker 2: have like the young thin model types who are like you,
- 34:22Speaker 2: I know money and you have like women like her
- 34:25Speaker 2: who they look like.
- 34:26Speaker 3: They're coming from like whole family money.
- 34:29Speaker 1: Yeah, she's giving. She's giving Dalton Abbey. She's been there,
- 34:34Speaker 1: she has the money. It's been deep into the family.
- 34:37Speaker 1: It's a terrible outfit. By the way, what I don't
- 34:40Speaker 1: know what I'm looking.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Really we like zoom in a little bit because I'm like,
- 34:44Speaker 2: are these shorts?
- 34:45Speaker 3: Is this a romper?
- 34:48Speaker 1: Is it?
- 34:49Speaker 3: Is there a belt on it?
- 34:51Speaker 1: Well? The triangular is confusing, is it? It could be
- 34:54Speaker 1: like it looks like a scarf, you know sometimes when
- 34:57Speaker 1: people do the scarves and then they yeah, top, but
- 35:01Speaker 1: it's going very low. So I don't know what this is.
- 35:04Speaker 1: But it's not for me personally.
- 35:06Speaker 2: It could be designer guys that I don't know, or
- 35:10Speaker 2: knocked off.
- 35:11Speaker 1: It could be designer, could be knocked off. The jacket
- 35:13Speaker 1: I like, but everything else I'm not into.
- 35:16Speaker 3: And she's really dancing it up.
- 35:18Speaker 2: She on the little stripper pool thanky she but.
- 35:23Speaker 1: In all fairness in this photo, she's really she is
- 35:26Speaker 1: giving it. She's eating down like she If you you
- 35:29Speaker 1: believe that this lady has money, I would I would believe,
- 35:33Speaker 1: she says, I'm a producer. You're like, hello, holdo.
- 35:35Speaker 2: I think she's just married to somebody and has been
- 35:39Speaker 2: for That's what it gives to me, is like, yeah,
- 35:41Speaker 2: she married them before they got the money, so they
- 35:43Speaker 2: can't really leave her either if they're trying to do
- 35:45Speaker 2: a new model So she still turned up right and
- 35:48Speaker 2: wearing these bodykind dresses in the Winner. At twenty twenty two,
- 35:51Speaker 2: a Polize instructor to the Stars agreed to rent a
- 35:54Speaker 2: studio apartment in the Roney Palace in Miami Beach from
- 35:59Speaker 2: on who said that she was the owner. So Andrea
- 36:04Speaker 2: is now hopping and bopping around Miami and she's like, hey,
- 36:07Speaker 2: u Politi's instructor to the Stars. I have a place
- 36:10Speaker 2: that you could rint out because real estate is my passion.
- 36:14Speaker 2: So this person agreed, This politics instructor agreed in the
- 36:17Speaker 2: winter of twenty twenty two to rinse out this apartment,
- 36:21Speaker 2: but Andrea started showing up at odd hours. One night,
- 36:25Speaker 2: the polateate's instructor returned home, and Andrea was asleep in
- 36:28Speaker 2: the bed with a candle burning in the closet.
- 36:32Speaker 3: She woke up and.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Said, don't blow it out.
- 36:35Speaker 3: I'm doing a spell.
- 36:38Speaker 1: Now, this is mental health. Now the story has shifted.
- 36:41Speaker 3: Yeah, give me a little MINTV. It's giving a little
- 36:44Speaker 3: MINTV GIV.
- 36:45Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, personality disorder, possession, you.
- 36:51Speaker 2: Know, thenudity in the last place.
- 36:54Speaker 1: It's giving unhinged that's what it's giving.
- 36:57Speaker 2: So the next morning, the plate's instructor went to the
- 37:00Speaker 2: management office to find out why her landlord was acting weird,
- 37:03Speaker 2: and they told her the real owner was Andrea b.
- 37:09Speaker 2: An Italian man with the same first and last initial
- 37:12Speaker 2: as Andrea Bartson, who's the scammer. So, Andrea the scammer
- 37:17Speaker 2: just happened to know the door code for the building
- 37:19Speaker 2: because she had been a sub letter there before, so
- 37:23Speaker 2: she did not own the apartment that she was renting
- 37:27Speaker 2: out to the Pilates instructor. She just had a door code.
- 37:31Speaker 2: So that's why she was like, oh, do you want
- 37:33Speaker 2: to rid this place out from me? The landlord? Also,
- 37:35Speaker 2: I'm would be living in here too and burning candle's
- 37:37Speaker 2: in your coloset.
- 37:38Speaker 3: Don't worry about that, Lacy.
- 37:40Speaker 1: This is exhausting, Like I'm already the twists and turns.
- 37:44Speaker 1: I'm like, who has the time for this? Who has
- 37:48Speaker 1: the time for this, I'm so busy. Who has the
- 37:50Speaker 1: time you know, on door codes and finding people with
- 37:53Speaker 1: your same initials. This is exhausting. I'm exhausted for it.
- 37:57Speaker 2: Really is a profession. This is not people think it's
- 38:01Speaker 2: for lazy. It's the same thing people think with sex work.
- 38:04Speaker 2: I'm like, bades, these are jobs like they like. I
- 38:08Speaker 2: couldn't imagine like starting up like only fans or something
- 38:12Speaker 2: in this economy currently, because you can't just get on
- 38:14Speaker 2: there and show a nip. You have to market to
- 38:17Speaker 2: so you have to really be under people's comments on X.
- 38:21Speaker 2: You gotta really be on Instagram and six times get
- 38:24Speaker 2: it driving people.
- 38:25Speaker 3: I could imagine being like I put my chat chats
- 38:27Speaker 3: on the.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Internet and I ain't getting no likes like I used
- 38:31Speaker 2: to think that was like an automatic, easy job.
- 38:33Speaker 3: No, it's not. You got to promote, honey.
- 38:36Speaker 1: I like that. Every actor has thought about only fans.
- 38:38Speaker 1: In the last year, We've all been like, are we
- 38:41Speaker 1: going to the poll? Are we going to OnlyFans? Where
- 38:43Speaker 1: are we going? Because it's real, but you're I actually
- 38:47Speaker 1: have friends here in Spain who are they do OnlyFans
- 38:49Speaker 1: and they're like the amount of work yet they can
- 38:53Speaker 1: be like eight hours, not just filming, it is everything else.
- 38:57Speaker 2: I have friends here who do it. It's like the
- 39:00Speaker 2: the collapse, this the that. I'm like, yeah, no, these
- 39:04Speaker 2: are all jobs. That's why I don't like when people
- 39:06Speaker 2: fantasize about somebody's life because they think it looks easy.
- 39:08Speaker 2: I'm like, scamming is a professional. You gotta get up
- 39:10Speaker 2: every day and really think about crime. It's crime time.
- 39:14Speaker 1: It's crime time.
- 39:15Speaker 2: Yes, yes, every morning when you wake up, that's your alarm,
- 39:18Speaker 2: crime time. So I know you're tired, but we're still going.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Now we're gonna get to the Hamps Griffin. We're getting
- 39:24Speaker 2: to the hairpis.
- 39:24Speaker 1: Don't worry, it's more. There's more.
- 39:27Speaker 2: So we're getting based to like the Hampton party circuit.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Andrea left Miami and returned to crashing charity Gallas restaurants
- 39:34Speaker 2: and designer boutique events in New York and Palm Beach.
- 39:38Speaker 2: So it's giving trumpy. She would come in like late
- 39:41Speaker 2: after the organizers should stopped checking people in or wait
- 39:45Speaker 2: outside until she saw someone she knew. Admission to these
- 39:48Speaker 2: events would sometimes cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Andrea
- 39:51Speaker 2: slipped in for free and jumped into pictures with rich
- 39:54Speaker 2: and famous attendees before they could say no. So not
- 39:58Speaker 2: only is she like these are good strategies because like
- 40:02Speaker 2: they don't check the list all night and everything. And
- 40:05Speaker 2: I know that from like back in the day when
- 40:07Speaker 2: I first moved to LA I went to a few
- 40:10Speaker 2: Amy's parties where.
- 40:12Speaker 3: I wasn't really on the list. Obviously. Now I'm gonna go.
- 40:18Speaker 1: Back in the day. You're pulling on You're pulling on
- 40:23Speaker 1: your back in the day. It's not back in the day.
- 40:25Speaker 1: It was back.
- 40:26Speaker 3: They invited to stuff I do.
- 40:29Speaker 1: I don't everything.
- 40:32Speaker 2: I'm going to invite everything now but the stuff that
- 40:34Speaker 2: I'm doing, but I don't go just like if they're
- 40:39Speaker 2: not asking me no more now if they might know now,
- 40:42Speaker 2: they might be like, hey, I believe she was trying
- 40:45Speaker 2: to sneak in here. Like back then they didn't know,
- 40:47Speaker 2: nobody knew. They didn't yeah, and now they still like
- 40:50Speaker 2: they still don't really know for real. For I'd get
- 40:52Speaker 2: away with some stuff, but not everything.
- 40:56Speaker 1: When when you're doing it, you're pulling your hair and
- 40:58Speaker 1: I it's such black.
- 41:01Speaker 2: Now you don't even like the word commncing you try
- 41:06Speaker 2: to see him, the less likely you're gonna get. All
- 41:08Speaker 2: you gotta do is just walk up to people like
- 41:10Speaker 2: I left my purse, keep walking or or sometimes I'll
- 41:14Speaker 2: say nothing, walk in with a.
- 41:15Speaker 3: Group of people and just keep walking like you belong there.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Like, yeah, there's differite, but you want to do it
- 41:19Speaker 2: like towards the end of the function if it's the beginning,
- 41:21Speaker 2: like there's too many people checking for everything.
- 41:24Speaker 1: Yeah, I left my purse. I do like that. I
- 41:27Speaker 1: feel like that's very convincing. It's like, who's if.
- 41:31Speaker 2: You're dressed like you're supposed to be there, then like
- 41:34Speaker 2: you can't you can't look crazy, you can't and you
- 41:36Speaker 2: can't look too excited to be there or nervous. You
- 41:39Speaker 2: have to look like this is the nastiest place you've
- 41:41Speaker 2: ever been in your life. You have to like, I
- 41:42Speaker 2: cannot believe i't the crawling to the fucking dumpster right
- 41:44Speaker 2: now to get my purse back.
- 41:46Speaker 1: Oh, Emmy, you've really thought about this, You've really system going.
- 41:52Speaker 3: I'm not doing this no more, Griffin, Okay.
- 41:55Speaker 1: Griffin, I'm not doing it no more. I'm a Christian,
- 41:58Speaker 1: I'm delivered God, I'm taking notes. I'm like, well, I
- 42:04Speaker 1: need to be doing this. I didn't do enough.
- 42:06Speaker 2: I didn't wait, so she she had a good little
- 42:10Speaker 2: you know, skim going on here.
- 42:12Speaker 1: Good for her.
- 42:13Speaker 2: So, and I love that she was getting these pictures too,
- 42:15Speaker 2: because you know, some of these pictures will be like
- 42:17Speaker 2: images that'll be in like whatever local magazines or websites
- 42:22Speaker 2: or blogs that they all check. So now she's established
- 42:25Speaker 2: legitimately because she's just hopped in a picture real quick.
- 42:27Speaker 2: They're like one, two, she's like three, three, and they're like,
- 42:30Speaker 2: who is this lady? Like what are you gonna do?
- 42:32Speaker 2: We're already in the picture. So one person who ran
- 42:35Speaker 2: into her at a famous colony hotel in Palm Beach,
- 42:38Speaker 2: which I know, the Colony Hotel, she said that she
- 42:42Speaker 2: basically came to my table and ate the rest of
- 42:45Speaker 2: my lunch. I hadn't finished. Okay, I'm kind of with
- 42:50Speaker 2: her right now.
- 42:51Speaker 1: I love her. I love her. She's doing the most.
- 42:56Speaker 1: Like it's really, this entire story is making me feel
- 42:58Speaker 1: like I'm not doing enough. I'm not doing it like
- 43:02Speaker 1: good for her, but.
- 43:03Speaker 2: Do you know, I mean, you know when somebody just
- 43:06Speaker 2: something so ludicrous that you just kind of freeze and
- 43:10Speaker 2: you're like, what is happening? I feel like that's how
- 43:14Speaker 2: she was getting way with this stuff. And she said,
- 43:15Speaker 2: like girls, so good to say, oh you're.
- 43:17Speaker 3: Not gonna eat that all you? Oh my gosh, girl,
- 43:19Speaker 3: so how you did? And you're just saying there like.
- 43:24Speaker 1: I'm such a Capricorn. I think I have too much,
- 43:27Speaker 1: you know, resistance for looking desperate and so like I
- 43:31Speaker 1: want to know what her sign is. I'm like, what's
- 43:33Speaker 1: the sign of that? This is? Like, what is this sign?
- 43:35Speaker 1: This is chaos? We need to google her birthday. Google
- 43:38Speaker 1: that we do.
- 43:39Speaker 2: We do need to know her birthday, Joe, if we
- 43:41Speaker 2: can get her birthday, I would love to know her birthday.
- 43:44Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna get Sagittarius.
- 43:47Speaker 1: This could this could be Sagittary's paper because they're wild
- 43:50Speaker 1: and it could be.
- 43:51Speaker 2: I feel like they just be doing anything and they
- 43:54Speaker 2: love to like hop around and and you know, be
- 43:58Speaker 2: traveling and doing anything.
- 44:00Speaker 3: But I don't know.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Let's maybe it's Sagittarius or maybe Aquarius. Maybe oh I.
- 44:05Speaker 3: Can see Aquarius too. Oh I could deaf see Aquarius.
- 44:09Speaker 3: Wow the hell? Okay?
- 44:10Speaker 2: I want to see which one of us is right.
- 44:11Speaker 2: Hopefully one of us is, because that's what it's giving.
- 44:15Speaker 2: So In the summer of twenty fourteen, Anna spotted Andrea.
- 44:20Speaker 3: So this is Anna again. This is Anna who.
- 44:22Speaker 2: Gave Andrea the opportunity with theah, who gave her the
- 44:26Speaker 2: first job cleaning the apartment, and then let her squat
- 44:29Speaker 2: in London where she was getting booty naked and refusing
- 44:32Speaker 2: to leave the premises.
- 44:33Speaker 3: And so now Anna has spotted her.
- 44:35Speaker 2: In the summer of twenty to twenty twenty four she
- 44:38Speaker 2: saw Andrea pacing in front of the VIP entrance to
- 44:42Speaker 2: the annual Polo Hampton's. She later got inside somehow. So
- 44:47Speaker 2: you know, this is the Hampton's Polo party, like this
- 44:49Speaker 2: is popping, like this is like a celebrity event. You
- 44:52Speaker 2: might see hers and Deya's there and they're white, so
- 44:55Speaker 2: they're whatever, right, So so Andrea knows we're all these
- 45:00Speaker 2: events are, knows what time they're taking place, has these addresses,
- 45:03Speaker 2: and so now she's just pasting it in front of
- 45:05Speaker 2: yapie and somehow she gets into this party. He that summer,
- 45:10Speaker 2: she was kicked out of two Hampton's parties, an animal
- 45:13Speaker 2: charity fundraiser she's stuck into and a cancer benefit where
- 45:17Speaker 2: she pretended to have bought a ticket Damn, you're.
- 45:22Speaker 1: Getting kicked out of raising money for animals and cancer.
- 45:24Speaker 1: That's how far are you that you know you've gone
- 45:27Speaker 1: too far at that point.
- 45:28Speaker 2: I mean, you would think those would be like the
- 45:30Speaker 2: nicest people throwing parties is like the animal lovers and
- 45:34Speaker 2: the people. But you know, like some some cancer charities
- 45:36Speaker 2: run a very strict program, like Susan she coming, Oh,
- 45:39Speaker 2: you don't fuck with that pains honey, Okay, you will
- 45:42Speaker 2: get a cease and desist for a titties.
- 45:45Speaker 3: You'll get two for each kitty.
- 45:47Speaker 2: Susan, don't play yes her organization, don't play this said.
- 45:51Speaker 2: We are the cure, bitch. Don't don't try to you.
- 45:54Speaker 2: You ain't raised for the cure, walking for the cure,
- 45:55Speaker 2: and running the cure. Think about the cure. We that's
- 45:58Speaker 2: all us.
- 45:59Speaker 1: You don't have a cure. If you're not doing those things,
- 46:01Speaker 1: then you don't have the cure.
- 46:02Speaker 3: Right out, so get out.
- 46:04Speaker 2: You don't need a cure after we whoop your ass,
- 46:07Speaker 2: So you better say it away from our branding.
- 46:09Speaker 1: You're unhinged and unhinged. You've been doing too many of
- 46:13Speaker 1: these podcasts. This is not good for you. Let this
- 46:17Speaker 1: be your last. Let this be your last.
- 46:20Speaker 3: This is mine. I've been doing this for six years
- 46:23Speaker 3: and it.
- 46:24Speaker 1: Shows you know everything you're like you got to carry
- 46:27Speaker 1: you think about the care. You're amazing, you.
- 46:31Speaker 2: You're amazing. I do feel caught out with the hairstroking. Now,
- 46:35Speaker 2: I'm like, is this my tail? But I'm like, really
- 46:37Speaker 2: not sneaking into I think I'm not. I think I'm
- 46:40Speaker 2: not sneaking in the party. I'm pretty sure I would
- 46:43Speaker 2: post some percentages on it.
- 46:45Speaker 1: Bra and right.
- 46:51Speaker 2: So she's getting kicked out, but she says, still, I rise, Okay,
- 46:54Speaker 2: still like scam.
- 46:56Speaker 3: Still I get in by all history shame. I ride right.
- 47:01Speaker 2: Also, when you don't have any shame, you really can't
- 47:03Speaker 2: stop somebody like that because what do they have to lose?
- 47:07Speaker 1: Zero? I wish I could be like that. I really
- 47:11Speaker 1: this whole story is like it's firing me. I'm like,
- 47:13Speaker 1: I need to have less shame. I'm working through too
- 47:16Speaker 1: much shame, too much, you know, like.
- 47:18Speaker 2: I want to shame to normal things like things that
- 47:22Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I hope it wasn't offer at that partyer,
- 47:25Speaker 2: Oh I sent a text and like, I hope.
- 47:27Speaker 3: That wasn't like too nice.
- 47:29Speaker 2: And now that all you know the normal things where
- 47:32Speaker 2: like these people are just like, oh yeah, I ate
- 47:34Speaker 2: the food off that person plate. And then I saw
- 47:36Speaker 2: them again when I was getting escorted out on a
- 47:39Speaker 2: puppy events. Don't give it down.
- 47:43Speaker 1: I gotta love that.
- 47:45Speaker 2: So she didn't care, right, she kept grinding on the scam,
- 47:49Speaker 2: and she started planning the first big event of her own,
- 47:52Speaker 2: which she called Global Passion Project.
- 47:58Speaker 1: Oh god, this photo. What is this phone?
- 48:01Speaker 2: This is a jump scare, because this is a jump scare,
- 48:06Speaker 2: like if Jerkie was a man, like if you were
- 48:10Speaker 2: to make your own venison, and then it like it
- 48:14Speaker 2: gained sentience.
- 48:18Speaker 1: Team who put this photo. This was a jump scare.
- 48:20Speaker 1: This was a horror Now it's a horror podcast.
- 48:24Speaker 3: I'm sorry we did this to your Griffin.
- 48:26Speaker 2: I'm so sorry we did this to you, because we're
- 48:28Speaker 2: right now we're looking at RFK. First of all, this
- 48:31Speaker 2: is one of the biggest things that's always disturbed me
- 48:33Speaker 2: about rfk's presentation of health and wellness is that he's
- 48:37Speaker 2: doing something that literally scared me from going to like
- 48:41Speaker 2: join a twenty four hour fitness like my first one
- 48:43Speaker 2: to LA I had twenty four hour fitness coin. I
- 48:46Speaker 2: walked through one of them, and I saw a man
- 48:48Speaker 2: working out in jeans, and I was like, I absolutely
- 48:50Speaker 2: could never work out here, Like that is the biggest
- 48:53Speaker 2: like red flag, Like I'm gonna get murdered in the
- 48:55Speaker 2: parking lot at this establishment. Like why are you working
- 48:58Speaker 2: out in jeans, sir? Like what's happening? Rfk's working on
- 49:01Speaker 2: jeans and a belt.
- 49:03Speaker 1: A jeans and a belt and he's in asna. He's sure,
- 49:08Speaker 1: there's so many things wrong with this photo. But and
- 49:11Speaker 1: also what is that bike? Is that one of the
- 49:12Speaker 1: ones that you pull? I don't know what I'm looking at?
- 49:14Speaker 2: And why is there a man doing push ups in
- 49:17Speaker 2: swim trunks behind it?
- 49:19Speaker 1: It's one of his cabinet members. I don't know who
- 49:22Speaker 1: that person is. I don't want to be in that room.
- 49:24Speaker 1: That's a room you don't want to be in.
- 49:26Speaker 2: I just don't know how your life gets there to
- 49:28Speaker 2: where you're doing push ups in asana with RFK Junior
- 49:31Speaker 2: while he's on a stationary bike in jeans with a
- 49:34Speaker 2: tight ass bilt.
- 49:35Speaker 3: Like what choices did you make that got you here?
- 49:39Speaker 1: I want to know who the creative director was for this?
- 49:41Speaker 1: Who decided this was the photo? Continue?
- 49:44Speaker 3: Okay, who was.
- 49:45Speaker 2: This for who was gonna look at RFK Junior and
- 49:48Speaker 2: be like, yeah, that's the picture of goodhill, Like give
- 49:51Speaker 2: me that run me that body.
- 49:55Speaker 1: For me, it's a no for me, it's a no.
- 49:58Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
- 50:00Speaker 2: So she called her her charity event that she was
- 50:05Speaker 2: going to have. It's her first big event of her own.
- 50:07Speaker 2: She's having Global Passion Project, which I don't know what
- 50:10Speaker 2: any of those words are supposed to mean together?
- 50:14Speaker 3: What's the what's the project? How is it global global?
- 50:19Speaker 1: What is it global?
- 50:21Speaker 3: Global Passion project?
- 50:25Speaker 1: All words that mean nothing? String them together, stram together,
- 50:28Speaker 1: and what does it mean? I don't know.
- 50:30Speaker 2: I don't know world's awareness movements.
- 50:36Speaker 1: Strig it together. That's favorite party. I love it. I
- 50:40Speaker 1: love it.
- 50:41Speaker 2: So Andrea was hoping to attract family offices, the private
- 50:45Speaker 2: wealth management firms where the rich run their personal fortunes,
- 50:49Speaker 2: to her Hampton's event. Family offices can be easy targets
- 50:54Speaker 2: for scammers, especially if it's one hundred million dollar wealth
- 50:57Speaker 2: fund managed by a fail son from a business dynasty
- 51:01Speaker 2: who you know doesn't know what he's doing. So basically
- 51:05Speaker 2: saying like these rich kids are now running their parents
- 51:10Speaker 2: is like huge businesses and financial portfolios and funds, and
- 51:14Speaker 2: it's kind of like secession where you just got a
- 51:16Speaker 2: bunch of like cook kids running the you know, the business.
- 51:20Speaker 3: And be like motherfucker merger.
- 51:22Speaker 1: And winning and winning awards for it. Yes, winning all
- 51:25Speaker 1: the awards. Yes, it means that you snuck into Yes,
- 51:29Speaker 1: I will see.
- 51:30Speaker 2: You didn't have to do that.
- 51:32Speaker 1: I feel I feel harmed because I wish you would
- 51:35Speaker 1: have taken me. I think you and I could have
- 51:37Speaker 1: done some real damage in La.
- 51:40Speaker 3: We just could have across the world because we're supposed
- 51:45Speaker 3: to be to get there. There's things that we're.
- 51:46Speaker 2: Supposed to be doing that hard, like this this regalness
- 51:50Speaker 2: you have, like talents.
- 51:53Speaker 1: Oh, then you're fast, You're very fast. I don't. I'm
- 51:57Speaker 1: usually fast. I think you're faster, and I'm like, I
- 52:00Speaker 1: want to be next to her. You've gotten me a.
- 52:03Speaker 2: Couple of times in this episode. I had to like
- 52:05Speaker 2: hear it back real quick like, and I love that.
- 52:07Speaker 2: I love that for me, Like I'll be so honest,
- 52:10Speaker 2: like sometimes like guests come on the show, I get
- 52:12Speaker 2: a little nice.
- 52:13Speaker 3: I'm like, oh Lord, is that gonna behave? And then
- 52:15Speaker 3: we started shotting.
- 52:16Speaker 2: I was like, yes, yes, in my head, so love
- 52:20Speaker 2: it well, So speaking of fast and you know, as
- 52:23Speaker 2: we as we quickly approached the end of Andreas Shenanigans
- 52:27Speaker 2: in a little bit here, Andrea's plan was to bring
- 52:30Speaker 2: together family office investors with executives and doctors and put
- 52:34Speaker 2: doctors in heavy quotes because what are these people?
- 52:36Speaker 3: Doctors?
- 52:37Speaker 2: Uh from RFK Juniors Make America Healthy Again campaign, because
- 52:43Speaker 2: you know how it was so like again be killing me.
- 52:46Speaker 2: It's like, this is the best our healthcare has ever
- 52:50Speaker 2: been and it's still horrible, Like like what are you
- 52:53Speaker 2: talking about the fifties when all the wives were aund
- 52:55Speaker 2: home being abused Coelus, Like where are these healthy again things? Okay,
- 53:01Speaker 2: So she teamed up with another Hampton socialite named Roleise.
- 53:06Speaker 1: I love the name Roland. I'm just well, I'll be
- 53:09Speaker 1: Rolease who you're going to be? I'll be Release. That
- 53:13Speaker 1: would be who I would be. This is no You're
- 53:22Speaker 1: the lead. You are the lead. And I come in
- 53:24Speaker 1: the halfway through the film and I'm like, my name Release.
- 53:27Speaker 2: And I'm an influence in the Hampton's my name Hampton
- 53:32Speaker 2: and Rolice had experience planning these events, So Griffin, as released,
- 53:36Speaker 2: you have experienced planning these events. Rolese rinted Andrea a
- 53:40Speaker 2: room in her house while they were planning the event,
- 53:43Speaker 2: and they.
- 53:43Speaker 3: Agreed to split the proceeds fifty to fifty.
- 53:46Speaker 2: So what so you're having an event, you're splitting proceed
- 53:48Speaker 2: so the event is not for any charity.
- 53:50Speaker 3: The event is just for y'all to.
- 53:55Speaker 1: Throwing a house I'm confused. You're throwing a house party.
- 53:58Speaker 1: You're throwing will be did in Brooklyn.
- 54:00Speaker 2: Right, but you're putting a fake ass name on a
- 54:03Speaker 2: global passion project, which you haven't called it a charity,
- 54:06Speaker 2: but the name would assume it makes you assume it.
- 54:09Speaker 3: Is a charity. But they said, we go a house party.
- 54:12Speaker 1: My name's Release.
- 54:13Speaker 3: Keep going, it's Release.
- 54:15Speaker 2: So Release noticed a lot of unexpected guests in the
- 54:18Speaker 2: house and found Andrea was renting out the other side
- 54:21Speaker 2: of her already rented bed. So Andrea was renting the
- 54:28Speaker 2: bed that she So she got so she has rented
- 54:32Speaker 2: a bedroom for Release, one bedroom. And then she was like,
- 54:36Speaker 2: how can I run the little prophet? So she said,
- 54:38Speaker 2: let me rent out. Andrea's let me now half the bed.
- 54:42Speaker 1: Listen, she's a woman. She's a working girl, Babe, She's working.
- 54:46Speaker 1: She's what you said it, she's working. Who does that?
- 54:50Speaker 2: She said, you want the left side because you can
- 54:52Speaker 2: have the left side for a right.
- 54:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 54:55Speaker 3: For twelve hundred dollars a month, you got the left.
- 54:59Speaker 1: Yeah. Old story.
- 55:00Speaker 2: Don't want to axtra fit the ouslip. The pillow over
- 55:02Speaker 2: before you. So it's cool when you.
- 55:04Speaker 1: Get whatever you want left or right. Who does this?
- 55:09Speaker 1: This is an insane person does this.
- 55:11Speaker 2: So Andrea promised caviar, oysters, and sushi, along with dishes
- 55:16Speaker 2: from two private ships for the six hour event hosted
- 55:19Speaker 2: at a fashion executive's house. She charged sponsors between seven
- 55:23Speaker 2: thousand and thirty thousand dollars to cover the spread, but
- 55:26Speaker 2: when the attendees arrived, they found there was tequila but
- 55:30Speaker 2: no food. So unlike in a Spania where y'all have
- 55:34Speaker 2: your son mesas and your tapas, they had tequila and
- 55:40Speaker 2: no food. And one speaker at the event compared it
- 55:42Speaker 2: to the fire festival.
- 55:44Speaker 1: Wow, yes, I saw that documentary on Netflix.
- 55:48Speaker 2: Oh you know, I saw the Hulua Netflix anything they.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Had you where it was? I saw it? Oh?
- 55:54Speaker 2: Multiple yes, no rollicse Now Griffin Rolice is disappointed right
- 55:59Speaker 2: now because she thinks that Andrea collected about one hundred
- 56:02Speaker 2: thousand dollars from the event, but she didn't split it.
- 56:05Speaker 2: She took everything and moved out of Release's house later
- 56:09Speaker 2: that year, and Drea added.
- 56:11Speaker 3: A new middle name to her LinkedIn profile, Cardier.
- 56:16Speaker 1: So I thought you were gonna say Cardi B. I
- 56:18Speaker 1: didn't know what after Release. I didn't know what you
- 56:20Speaker 1: were gonna say, Cardier.
- 56:21Speaker 2: I mean, at some point she might get So we're
- 56:23Speaker 2: talking about Cardier the jewelry, but at one point she
- 56:25Speaker 2: might get to Cardi B the rapper.
- 56:26Speaker 3: The way that she's moving, she's she's working very quickly.
- 56:30Speaker 1: I just want to know where she is where.
- 56:32Speaker 2: She's also trash for throwing this event and being like,
- 56:34Speaker 2: you know what, I'm just going to give them tequila,
- 56:36Speaker 2: and I bet you whoever. Like however she got the tequila,
- 56:40Speaker 2: it was a sponsor who was like, will give you
- 56:42Speaker 2: the tequila physically as a sponsorship. It's probably the only
- 56:46Speaker 2: reason they had tequila, because if they had give her
- 56:48Speaker 2: money for tequila, she would have took that too.
- 56:51Speaker 1: No, they give her product. They gave her product. She
- 56:53Speaker 1: picked it up, put it in the back of her car,
- 56:55Speaker 1: and drove somebody else's car and drove it to the
- 56:57Speaker 1: event and unpacked it herself, and whoever was out the
- 57:00Speaker 1: second half of her bed helped unpack it. Like she's
- 57:03Speaker 1: she's professional, she really is.
- 57:06Speaker 2: She got in and out of there. So this is
- 57:08Speaker 2: where she's going to meet mister Rockefeller. So she met
- 57:12Speaker 2: Matthew Rockefeller on Facebook. Are y'all really be meeting people
- 57:16Speaker 2: on Facebook? Which is very wild to me? Like how
- 57:18Speaker 2: do y'all do that? And why?
- 57:19Speaker 3: And when are you going to stop? It's never happened
- 57:22Speaker 3: to me.
- 57:22Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all, let me know if you have a
- 57:25Speaker 2: happy love life from your Facebook connection? Because how please?
- 57:29Speaker 1: Because how.
- 57:31Speaker 2: So they became inseparable, hanging out at every event in
- 57:35Speaker 2: Palm Beach and talking about getting married. Matthew signed out
- 57:39Speaker 2: as a partner to Global Passion Projects.
- 57:42Speaker 3: Now this is the thing that's taking.
- 57:44Speaker 1: Off Tequila event he's signed on for.
- 57:47Speaker 2: He signed for because it's Global, it's passion, it's a project,
- 57:52Speaker 2: and it's a project, and so his name gave it
- 57:55Speaker 2: some legitimacy because he's a Rockefeller.
- 57:57Speaker 1: Right.
- 57:58Speaker 2: He told investors that he ran the philanthropy arm of
- 58:01Speaker 2: the oil baron family. So he said he runs the
- 58:04Speaker 2: philanthropy arm of the Rockefellers. Right now, mind you what
- 58:08Speaker 2: I tell you in the very beginning, griffing, this man
- 58:11Speaker 2: is not a rock feller.
- 58:12Speaker 1: The amount of twists and turns, it's game of Thrones
- 58:16Speaker 1: right now. It's just like Thrones. I don't know what's happening.
- 58:20Speaker 1: So many games are being several.
- 58:22Speaker 3: The names are too close together.
- 58:23Speaker 2: It's giving me like Vici's the third and sixth of
- 58:26Speaker 2: his name, and also Besserris, the cousin of agon Agon
- 58:30Speaker 2: the name in the ninety third. Yeah, it's it gets
- 58:35Speaker 2: to be too much like write me to had his
- 58:37Speaker 2: own name. So in reality, you know, he's Mark Wayne
- 58:40Speaker 2: Tamasco and he's from New York, Penncil.
- 58:43Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
- 58:43Speaker 2: He's from York, Pennsylvania, where his mother was a hospice nurse.
- 58:47Speaker 2: His dad worked for a trucking company in the early
- 58:49Speaker 2: two thousands, so then he moved to New York City
- 58:51Speaker 2: to be an actor. He kind of looks like he
- 58:52Speaker 2: could have been on Desperate Housewives. He's a bootleg orson.
- 58:58Speaker 1: He looks like a theater. Actually, he just looks like,
- 59:01Speaker 1: you know, he went to UH school and studied and
- 59:06Speaker 1: eyebrows are a little weird. He could be a killer.
- 59:08Speaker 1: He looks I mean, i'd cast him. I think you'd
- 59:10Speaker 1: cast him.
- 59:11Speaker 2: No, he's quite tall, a lot of tall.
- 59:17Speaker 1: He's giving. Yeah, he looks like he could be a
- 59:19Speaker 1: nice guy or a killer, one of those.
- 59:21Speaker 2: Oh yeah, definitely a killer for sure.
- 59:23Speaker 3: For sure. He would be on Dick Wolf's program in
- 59:26Speaker 3: a heartbeat bag.
- 59:27Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
- 59:28Speaker 2: He's giving true Trump And so he was trying to
- 59:32Speaker 2: be an actor in the early two thousands. He moves
- 59:36Speaker 2: to New York City, right, so he wins for a conservatory,
- 59:39Speaker 2: but he dropped out. Unfortunately, it's not like your case, Griffin,
- 59:42Speaker 2: Like he left the conservatory. The school didn't leave him
- 59:48Speaker 2: like that.
- 59:49Speaker 3: Your soul left you.
- 59:50Speaker 1: No, he left them, no money, no diploma.
- 59:55Speaker 2: Oh so for many years he went by Matt Wayne.
- 59:58Speaker 2: That kind of gives like porn to but okay.
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: The celebrities friends.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: The celebrity magician, And twenty twenty three he changed the
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: social media names to Matthew W.
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: Rockefeller.
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: So he realized Matt Wayne wasn't getting him nowhere, and
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: magician definitely not. Oh my gosh, one time I dated somebody,
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: I want date it as too. That's too locked in,
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: Like we went on some dates and I took them
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: to a party and I turned around and they was
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: doing magic tricks and I was just like absolutely, like
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: I have to get in my car immediately and go
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: were no, no.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: It was like following.
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: But the ball was like falling out and like and
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: it was and it was like, yeah, it was was
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: it him? It was Matt Wayne, but I didn't know
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: because he was he was Matt Rockefeller. No, okay, so
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: I could just I'm glad he switched from Magician.
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: But we didn't have to go straight to Rockefeller. But
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: why not, you know what? So in late.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four, Matthew invited two entrepreneurs to Rockefeller Centers
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: to discuss partnering for global passion projects.
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: Remember that's start thing, right.
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: They want to do an event on a yacht now
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: and at Miami Hedge Fun Week. So the week where
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: all the people who siphon the money from our economy
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: doing illegal shape get together in one place. Why have
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: we never thought about when they get together at one place.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying, guys, That's all I said.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: King Chum, that was right.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: And it's like the next scene is like they're at
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: the Harbor like see exactly. So the entrepreneur showed up
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: to the meeting, expecting to be taken upstairs to a
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: conference room of offices at Rockefeller Capital Management. Instead, Rockefeller
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: this is our Matthew R. Fake Rockefeller in a full suit,
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: took them into the Equinox on the ground floor and
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: sat in the gym's cafe area. The entrepreneurs agreed to
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: co host the event at the Mansion Club on the
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: condition that they would not be responsible for any cost.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: The venue owners had agreed to host about thirty investors
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: aboard the yacht for free, but freaked out when Andrea
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: showed up with okay, so they say three thirty thirty, right,
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: they said, we'll host thirty for We'll host thirty people
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: for free because you brought us to the Equinox cafe
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: to talk, so we don't know if you're really about
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: that coin.
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: So but we'll give you on the name alone.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: We'll give you thirty people to host at the yacht club.
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: Right, So.
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: They freaked out when Andrea showed up with three hundred people.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: I'm gonna die.
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: Do you know how thirty become three hundred?
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: How how does that happen? And why, how and why?
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: No, it's just a natural Like when they say thirty
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: for free and you're like, so three hundred for me?
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: Is that what you said?
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nuts, it is these are these are lunatics.
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: Now we're into lunas.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: Also, I feel like there's a pattern here that we
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: have to acknowledge about Andrea. Andrea keeps like getting an
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: invitation to something herself and then finding a way to
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: bring more people in.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: Maybe if she brings in more people it's a distraction
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: from her.
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: But I mean, like she was saying she was a
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: landlord of the apartment, then she brings herself into sleep
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: in the apartment of light candles in it. She was
- 1:03:26Speaker 2: saying like, oh, I'm gonna stay with u. What was
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: her name, Rose Lisa Rolisa.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: Lease, Rolease, that's I'm sorry, I won't forget your name. Rolese.
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: Rolice was like, you can stay in my place. She
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: was like, great, I'm a rent half of the bed.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: Like she keeps taking a step further with the people.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: Like they said you could come with thirty, she said, okay, perfect,
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: I'll be in with three hundred people.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: No, this is nuts. She's a lunatic.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: The managers asked her for fifteen thousand dollars before anyone
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: could get on the boat. Andrea and Matthew both got
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: upset that she would ask a Cardier or a Rockefeller
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: to pay upfront like.
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: This, like what are we black?
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Oh, but they didn't offer to put the money up. Eventually,
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: the manager received fifteen thousand dollars in the form of
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: a check, wire transfer, and zell from three different people,
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: none of whom were named Rockefeller or Adrea's last name Bartson.
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: The sponsors lost their money on the event and no
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: invested like investing like ended up happening, so she somehow
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: finessed three people out of five thousand dollars so they
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: could pay for his boat ride.
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: I love her and she's a lunatic.
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: She is alding, and I'm kind of like in love
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: with it.
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: It's it's really not you know, we're kind of getting
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: into the end of her like Shenan's because she Shannan
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: wants the Shenan again and she can just gonna keep
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: on Shannana and Shnanan.
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: It's my favorite phrase again.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: Right, I don't think that this lady will stop, and
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: so far it doesn't seem like any messic pressure charges
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: against her. But the people who lost money to her
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: scamming are for the most part, very rich, right, and
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: they're too embarrassed to try to get that money back,
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: Which is why it's pretty easy if you can get
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: into the right social circles to scam rich people, because
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: nobody wants to admit that they're a fool.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: And also the way that those you.
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: Know, really high falute and the high network old blue
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: money circles work is like they keep it really difficult
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: for newcomers to Yeah, it's very insane, which I can't
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: imagine because you know, like these are like some of
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: the nastiest old school rich families and they're all like
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: like the rock styles used to end breed to keep
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: the money in the family.
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: So it's like, well these people look true, yes, so
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: you don't look good like you know, like they look strange.
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: They look Fritish, were going to come out, no, you
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: know what I mean.
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: We mean like the like the monarchy, they look like
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: a monarchy. Those those not how every day.
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: On the street.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: Not yeah, not to your regular No, I've seen some
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: very cute ones. Yes, So Andrea and Matthew kept making
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: the rounds. They would go to the Miami Beach parties
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: as the Cardier Rockefeller couple in twenty twenty.
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: Five, maybe were suspicious of them.
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: Matthew had a soft handshake in quotes and often wore
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: Flapper era newsboy caps as if he were cosplaying John D.
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: Rockefeller on the way to the golf course. He was
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: almost always in a suit, even for video calls. Andrea's
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: highlight highlighting spacing looked like a two hundred dollars hair treatment,
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: not the six hundred dollars treatment you would expect for
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: a Cardier like so her like her, They were saying
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: her highlights here wasn't given and she carried a fake
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: burke and bag. What do you think about these action
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: choices like Matthew went full like I'm gonna a dress
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: like I am John D. Rockefeller in the early like
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds.
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: Maybe it's a smart way to go because then people
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: really do think you have money, because.
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: You know those five You know now the rich flex
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: is like wearing a six thousand dollars white seat and
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: it looks like nothing.
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: You know, why has nobody called this in? I just
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: want to know who's gonna take him down? Please tell
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: me someone takes them down.
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: Well, we're getting to hopefully, I don't know, question Mark,
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: We'll see if it's the end of their staray, but
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: yeah they I love that they're clocking her chunky hair
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: lights or hair lights highlights.
- 1:07:35Speaker 3: And also that he was literally out here like it's.
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: Me, Matthew Rockaba like using his like, you know, little
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: taste of an acting degree that.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: He get How did no one come? How did how
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: did you never run into another Rockefeller, another Cardion. I
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: just can't figure out, Like, it's nuts, this is this
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: is nuts. She's not gonna deal. She is not Anteal
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: in that photo, She's back.
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: She loves her some Teal truly loves her.
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: Andrea guys speaking gigs in front of high network audiences
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: where she introduced herself as an Angel investor. She told
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: new friends she'd been the mastermind behind the launch of
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: several blockbuster drugs that are on the market, including Botox
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: and the Merk cancer drug k Truda. So she says
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: she's an Angel investor and that the reason we have
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: bachulin toxin is because of her. And then I think
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: Matthew Rockefeller came out and he did like a little
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: Jaunt Dance and I.
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: Was like, hey the paybos k Trudeau, Yeah, K Trudea.
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: It sounds like and k.
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: Are the leads of this movie.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: Like yeah, she said she gave a coin and that's all.
- 1:09:01Speaker 2: We had this cancer drunk and like you said, I
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: know you're getting exhausted, Grippin because it's like, damn, when
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: will this lady stop. So by October twenty twenty five,
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: Andrea had traveled to Saudi Arabia to hit up like
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: the whole party circuit there, and Matt was upset that
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: she still had ten thousand dollars of his money. So
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: in December, Andrea threw a party at Art Basil, which
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: you know, if you know anything about Art Basil is
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: great for money laundering.
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: It happens in Miami. A lot of rich.
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: People, is it, Is it money laundering?
- 1:09:31Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a lot of rich people, text bros.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: A lot of parties, just like the douchiest things that
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: you can imagine. Like I remember one year there was
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: an art installment where you put in your debit card
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: and then this huge machine would show how much money
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: was in your bank account, like for everyone to see.
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: Not real, Yes, it's not real.
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: Yes, it was an ATM to just put your balance up.
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: One of the things like that.
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: It's my favorite example of money laundering is a banana
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: that was like nailed to a wall of real banana. Yeah,
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: crazy amount of money.
- 1:10:08Speaker 3: But it's like, yes, this is money laundry.
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: And you know, these people are all working in very
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: douchey sectors of the world. It's like you're not producing
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: anything that helps people. Like when I think of a
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: trade or a job, like what we do in entertainment.
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: People like to be entertained. They like to watch things,
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: they like to feel things, they like to learn things.
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: You know, if you're an electrician, we need lights. But
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: then when you think about like crypto bros, what have
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: they ever produced that we actually fucking needed.
- 1:10:34Speaker 3: They don't make anything.
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: No one knows. To this day, we don't know. This
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: lady is doing more than you know. She don't waste.
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: If you're not done with your meal, don't even worry
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: about a sweetheart. Andrea, I got it, Like she's good
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: for like you know, like the planet. You go to
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: a party, all the champagne is getting recycled. She's not
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: like a drop go to waste. Like, come on, so
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: In February twenty twenty six, she crashed a black Tide
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: wedding at a.
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: Museum in Palm Beach.
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: The mother of the bride asked who she was, and
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: Andrea held up a table card with the name of
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: the bride's best friend, who was standing a few feet away.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: The mother of the bride flipped out and said, you're
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: so full of shit and you need to get the
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: fuck out.
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: Ooh, these are some spicy, rich people.
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: Does she go crash It's time for her to beat
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: some spice.
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody should have been cussed her out. Andrea, you
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: should have been cussed out a while ago.
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: Should have cussed her all the way out, okay.
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: Should should have been all your ass when he was
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: naked in that London apartment, like, we've let you get
- 1:11:37Speaker 2: away with too much. We was in here snacking all
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: looking at somebody else's plate, like you. You don't have
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: no home training that we know for sure. But I
- 1:11:45Speaker 2: love that she held up a name that was like
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: right there, and listen, I have done this at a
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: party where I was going up to the party.
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: Grima stopped.
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: Stop making that face. We judgement when I say things
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: like things I'm just I love.
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: No coming in for the T that's the T ship
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: lean Forward.
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: I was walking up to the party and there was
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: a list and I was like, oh, I am this
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: person's plus one and that person was right behind me
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: and they're like, no, you're not.
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: And I was like, Okayrud, why did you do that?
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: K Truda? What happened? You didn't have you would have
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: a way in.
- 1:12:26Speaker 3: I got in eventually, but yeah, did you do it?
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: Because that was your way in? Like your you came
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: and said I'm gonna be a plus one of Well.
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted I didn't. I think there was
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: another line where you could just like this, look the VIP.
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: I think there was another situation where you could wait
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: or something. I didn't want to do that, so I
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: like just glanced at the VIP list while the security
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: people were talking and I just said that.
- 1:12:48Speaker 3: I was like, this person's plus one and they were
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: just so they were earshot. Definitely earned day.
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: I know.
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's not who I meant. I
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: meant another somebody calling me.
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: Hello, hello, once it's it's me. It's just me.
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: So in March, New York Magazine published the story exposing
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: her and she removed Cardier from her LinkedIn profile, but
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: she's still hosting network events in Palm Beach. One includes
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: like Tiger Woods ex Rachel you could tell, So she's
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: still hosting these and Palm Beach screams like these are
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: maga events, Like we all know that, Like there's no
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: one more gullible than Trump's cult. So I feel like
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: they're still gonna go to these events. They've seen the
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: photos of her in whatever, like you know, Sunburnt, like
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: a filler magazine. They look at you know, they've seen
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: it in liverspots dot com. They know that she's been
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: now at the events. Uh yeah, And I do want
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: to say that most of the story comes from the
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: March xposa in New York Magazine by crypto reporter Jin Wisner.
- 1:14:00Speaker 2: So thank you so much, and we will have all
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: of this stuff in our foot notes.
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: But what final thoughts from.
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: You, Grippin? Do you like this scamm do you think
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: this was harmful? How do we feel about miss miss Andrea?
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is that she wasn't scamming poor people,
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: which I find those are the scams. But I'm like, Okay,
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: she went after a bunch of people that I guess
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: could afford to be scammed and I say that, you know, yeah.
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: No, she scammed up. These are people who are.
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: Like wasting money.
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, if you're going to blow money at
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: a random party for no reason, like Global Project, Global
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: Passion Project, like that. The money doesn't even go anywhere.
- 1:14:46Speaker 2: To me, I'm like, I don't care where that money goes.
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: The thing is, if she had scammed down, she wouldn't
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: have been alive. You can't scam that. This all this parties,
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: no tequila, had no food, and if imagine if she
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: had scammed down, this lady would not have survived. It's
- 1:15:03Speaker 1: an interesting process to scam up because what are these
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: people gonna do. You said they got embarrassed. They were
- 1:15:10Speaker 1: embarrassed by her, and I'm like, okay, that does make sense.
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: It means that.
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: Shame is a huge. Part of the reason why people
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: don't talk about how they have been scammed and been
- 1:15:19Speaker 2: ripped off is because people think that if you've been scammed,
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: you've been a fool. But we always say that everyone
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: has needs and there's always someone willing to exploit those
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: needs in the world, you know what I mean, So
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: anybody can get scammed, And I think it's more dangerous
- 1:15:31Speaker 2: to think that you can't or to let your hubris
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: allow you to put yourself in a position where you
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: ignore every red flag and then the next thing you know,
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: you know, you donet gave ten thousand dollars to Global
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: Passion Project and you ain't get no passion.
- 1:15:45Speaker 3: You ain't get a project. You get all yet you
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: ain't getting no nothing.
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: I just want to state, there's not one black person
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: in any of these photos.
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no.
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: You can't do this, not to us, you can't do this.
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: There's not one of us in these photos. You know
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just she she she found her market.
- 1:16:07Speaker 2: She did, and it looks like a don't check up
- 1:16:10Speaker 2: on a dress like she's been giving me like kind
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: of like tacky like rich woman the whole time.
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: It's a lot of print, So she's giving a lot
- 1:16:19Speaker 1: of print, busy print.
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: Yeah, whish's this kind of palm beach look. The palm
- 1:16:23Speaker 2: beach look is like it's very gaudy. It's very like
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: inside of Trump's bathroom, but like.
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: Very body mar A Lago, it's very it's very I'm
- 1:16:37Speaker 1: redoing the White House, is what that is yes.
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: So I mean this one, I'm kind of like Andrea.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: It looks like you haven't even been charged, you haven't
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: been caught. It looks like you've just been written up
- 1:16:47Speaker 2: in New York magazine and that nobody has really gotten
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: you on the hook for anything. And so I hope
- 1:16:52Speaker 2: you can keep going. Maybe just will raise your elevateor
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: social profile even higher.
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: I hope you meet her. I hope I meet her,
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: but not to just you know, at some point, I don't.
- 1:17:02Speaker 2: Feel like we would ever be The spaces that she's
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: in are not safe for us to be her, like well, because.
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: If we meet her, it means other things are going down. Yeah,
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: we're at a rally. That's what Roleice.
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: You can't be at a rally. Okay, we can't do that.
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: Don't be there, Okay, I'm not gonna sneak in. I
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: feel like I wouldn't even have to sneak into this one,
- 1:17:24Speaker 2: but you know I won't. I won't sneak in. I promise,
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: I promise, Relice.
- 1:17:28Speaker 3: But Grandfa.
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of an amazing episode.
- 1:17:31Speaker 2: Thank you so much all the way from Spain and Spanya.
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: These different times you're fantastic. We always ask where would
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: you like to be found? What do you want people
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: to watch?
- 1:17:41Speaker 3: See? Any social media could be anything.
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: Well, I will be in this Spanish series. Uh, I
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: will be speaking at Spangol on the show. I will
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: not be speaking English, so I don't know. I would
- 1:17:58Speaker 1: love turning the subtitles, is what I'm telling you. Turn
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: on the subtitle.
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna watch you. This is I'm gonna keep
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: getting my Spanish stronger before birthday, so watch you birthday.
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: No, but I'm really excited and I think it's like
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: an interesting way to to pivot and to try new
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: things in our lives. And I am absolutely terrified and
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: excited to be on television speaking. So to my social media,
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: my handle is Griffin's Threat.
- 1:18:26Speaker 3: Yes, amen and go.
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: You can see all of these photos that scam got
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