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Chulin 26 · Daf Yomi with Aaron Cohen

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SPEAKER_00: Alright, Khundav Chovvov, Shema Vaya.
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SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna start with the Mishnah on Chof Hamid Bayes, which is by uh again, we're gonna go through a lot of different suyyas today.
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SPEAKER_00: We have not one, but one, two, three, four Mishnah is today.
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SPEAKER_00: A Balinunat in a bunch of different suyas.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be all over the place.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh Ganshas, Shas Khatan today.
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SPEAKER_00: Either way, Zuht the Mishnah.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll try to get through all of it and not fall asleep.
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SPEAKER_00: Kofe Ahmed Baze again.
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SPEAKER_00: After these tissues.
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SPEAKER_00: And Zuct the Mishnah.
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SPEAKER_00: Temed, actually, in Nikekhbakasa Masochini.
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SPEAKER_00: What's Temed?
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SPEAKER_00: Temed.
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SPEAKER_00: Sometimes with like the syllabus of grapes, grape seeds or whatever, grape appeals.
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SPEAKER_00: They used to take it and make some sort of inferior wine by soaking it in water.
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SPEAKER_00: So it wasn't like a shmacky wine.
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't nearly a thir pharis, but it was more of the inferior wine that they made out of temed.
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SPEAKER_00: Now it took some time for it to start fermenting.
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SPEAKER_00: Temed is this uh quasi wine.
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SPEAKER_00: So actually, before it started fermenting, because there's aloha that as we know, myesar shane, what are you supposed to do with it?
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SPEAKER_00: You're supposed to bring it to your shalaim and eat it in your shalaim.
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SPEAKER_00: You could be pointed the maestershane, let's say you don't you're not going to your shalaim right now, so you can be pointed to the Kadusha from the paris and my sushane onto a Kesaf.
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SPEAKER_00: That money now is the Kadusha Mysacheney, you're appointed to the paras.
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SPEAKER_00: The parents you can eat whenever you want.
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SPEAKER_00: Now it's a hulin.
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SPEAKER_00: So you're pointed to the money the the Kadusha the Maysershane onto the money.
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SPEAKER_00: The money now, whenever you get to your shalaim, next time you're either regal, you go, you're gonna bring that money to your shalim.
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SPEAKER_00: Now you buy food in your shalim and you eat it there with the cadusha's macerini.
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SPEAKER_00: So the transfer, the the the cadush transfers back off the money onto the new food that you buy in your shalima, and then you're gonna eat it over there um in your shalaim.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, what can you buy with mice maisersane?
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SPEAKER_00: You can buy relatively anything to eat besides for water.
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SPEAKER_00: You cannot buy water with uh Maister Shane money.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not gonna work, it's not gonna transfer the Kadusha onto it.
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SPEAKER_00: So Temed, which is made of really grape grape peels soaked in water, at some point it's still considered water, right?
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SPEAKER_00: So just because you threw a grape peel in it doesn't make it temed.
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SPEAKER_00: It's gonna still be considered water, and what the mission is telling you, actually echmits until it becomes fermented.
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SPEAKER_00: Once it becomes fermented, then it's not considered water anymore, which means you can now be played as a cadusha of maestra shaney monte onto it.
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SPEAKER_00: But before it's echmatz, it's just just considered water, you're not gonna be able to do it.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's what the mission says.
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SPEAKER_00: Hatemed.
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SPEAKER_00: Actually, ichhmits before it ferments, ain't an ikhma kasa masa shane.
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SPEAKER_00: It's din is like mayim, and therefore, since you can't buy water with your case miser shane, it's not gonna transfer the cadusha off the money.
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SPEAKER_00: So too, you're not gonna be able to buy this t temet because it didn't ferment yet, it's din is like water.
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SPEAKER_00: Upoisel is a mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: Furthermore, since its din is like water, it's gonna pass a little mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
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SPEAKER_00: So it's another alakha.
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SPEAKER_00: We know that by a mikvah, the minimum shear has to be to be a kashana mikvah has to be 40 sea.
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SPEAKER_00: Now that 40 sea has to be not maim shuven, not drawn water from a well or you know from wherever.
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SPEAKER_00: It has to be uh it has to uh get there naturally.
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SPEAKER_00: It has to be not ma'am shovim.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, if you have less than 40 sea, and then you put three lugin, that's the shear of tsul.
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SPEAKER_00: You put three lugin and mayam shuven into the mikvah, you just passled it.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, what if you have less than what if you have more than 40 sah?
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SPEAKER_00: The answer is you could put in as much maim shovin as you want.
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SPEAKER_00: You have 40 cell, you're good to go.
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SPEAKER_00: Turn on the sink, fill up the mikvah, and it's gonna stay with the same kosher's all the water that you add into it is gonna be bundled to the kosher mime over there, and it's gonna be a kosher mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: But that's if you already have 40 cell.
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SPEAKER_00: If you don't have 40 cell yet, if you put in three lugin maimshuvin, you just passled it.
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SPEAKER_00: Less than that, it's not gonna pass in the mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: But even if you have Husserkurta, we're gonna see, even less a tiny bit than 40 cell, you put in Maim Shovin, three lugan, you're gonna passle it.
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SPEAKER_00: What if you put in less than three lugan and mimeshumin, you didn't passle it.
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SPEAKER_00: So this temat, before it's ihmet, says the gimmono, not only can't you transfer the Kedusha Mysotanial money onto it, but it's so like water, it's so naqshav like water that it's gonna have the din of water shalugan that it's gonna passle the mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: Upois less the mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: It's din is like mime, it's gonna passle the mikvah, because we know by the way, only mime is gonna passle mikvah, three lugan.
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SPEAKER_00: Mime shumin.
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SPEAKER_00: What if you take wine, three lugun of wine, and you put it into a mikvah that's less than 40 sah, it's not gonna passle it.
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SPEAKER_00: So since it's like water, it's gonna passle the mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: Mishmet, however, once you have that time in it, once it fermented, then nikah because of my sashini, you can buy, you can use my sashani money to buy it in your shalom because it's not considered like water anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: It's considered like wine.
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SPEAKER_00: The an plus mikfah.
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SPEAKER_00: Furthermore, it's not gonna passle a mikvah that's less than 40 sah if three lugun of it falls into it because it's not considered water.
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SPEAKER_00: Brothers that were partners.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, what's the classic case whenever the Mishnah is telling us Achen Hashutfin?
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SPEAKER_00: It means they're partners because they yarsh' something from their father and then they split it.
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SPEAKER_00: So they are they yarn the house, now they're shutfin in the house together, they own it together.
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SPEAKER_00: So Achan Shutvin khyabin could be cowbain, turin me Maiser Behemo.
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SPEAKER_00: When they're hive in a cowbain, they're potter from Mayser Behemo.
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SPEAKER_00: What are we talking?
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SPEAKER_00: The ma'at is uh Allah every year needs to bring a machiza shekel, which would fund the carbonasibur.
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SPEAKER_00: As we know, the carbonis had to come from you, you had to have a hailik in it.
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SPEAKER_00: So the machizhekal that you give gives you your hailik in the carbon sibar.
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SPEAKER_00: So the ham said, because we're worried that the machzah shekel you might give, the coin dafka you might give might be chipped a little bit, and it's not gonna be the full machzhekel you need to give to uh the basement.
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SPEAKER_00: And therefore, the rabban said you have to be miceif a cowboy.
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SPEAKER_00: You have to be mice of a little bit of cowboy.
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SPEAKER_00: But that's only true that you have to be mice of a cowboy and the rabbin said when you're giving Master Shane for money for when you're giving uh machzah shekel for yourself, if you're giving it on behalf of someone else, you do not have to be mice of a cowboy.
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SPEAKER_00: Another alloch we need to know for this case is that Maister Behemoth, again, this is just gonna be uh a lot of yus.
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SPEAKER_00: Another alloc we need to know for this case is that Maister Behemoth, you're only Chayyvan if it's your own.
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SPEAKER_00: But if you're sh shuttif with someone, if you own cattle with someone else, you're shutfin in cattle, you're not chaiim maister behemo.
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SPEAKER_00: And therefore, zak the mishnah, then achachna shutfin.
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SPEAKER_00: Achin that are the brothers that are shutfin, kishab and the cowboy.
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SPEAKER_00: When they're chayiv in this cowboy, because they are giving it on behalf of themselves, they consider that they already split it, and therefore, if you're giving on my if you're giving the machiza shekel on behalf of yourself, you're caiibin a karman, you're chaib in uh uh in the cowboy to be mice of it, turn me my potter from Mais of Behema.
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SPEAKER_00: Why?
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SPEAKER_00: Because they're considered like shutfin.
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SPEAKER_00: Now you got it from your father, but you split it.
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SPEAKER_00: You're giving it for yourself the machiza shekel.
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SPEAKER_00: It's considered your money, you're giving it for yourself, it's not from your father's estate, it's considered yours.
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SPEAKER_00: So you have to be mice of a cowboy, that's when you're gonna be put from Maisa Behemoth, because you're a shutif with your brother on the cattle, and therefore uh you're both managing it, so you're gonna be put from Mais of Behima because Shutvin are Patrimais Behema, whereas whereas Kishrayan and Maisa Bemah where you're chaib and mysur behema, which means that you didn't really split it yet, Zatrashi, as Rashid explained, Kishrahim and Ma'is Mahema kiganim laikal kumy'alam, if they did not split the father's estate, and therefore it's still considered it's still considered one man's estate, they're managing their father's estate, so it's not shuzfin, and therefore they're chaib and myself because only shuzvin are potrmais mahima.
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SPEAKER_00: So when they're chaif, then they're gonna be potr from the cowbain.
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SPEAKER_00: Why?
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SPEAKER_00: Because when they're giving it, they're giving it from the father's estate.
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SPEAKER_00: It's considered like they're giving the the machzah shekah on behalf of someone else, and when you do that, you're not gonna be chaib in the cobhwain, and that was the Mishnah Zuk the Gimara.
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SPEAKER_00: Money Mas Nisin, who is our Mishnah?
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SPEAKER_00: Now, what part of the Mishnah?
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SPEAKER_00: Specifically referring to the Temed part.
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SPEAKER_00: The Temud again, this quasi uh wine, not wine, is it water, is it wine?
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SPEAKER_00: So who is the Mishnah that holds that only once it's hikhmits?
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SPEAKER_00: Only once it becomes uh once it ferments, it doesn't have the water anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: Who is the ton of the Mishnah?
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SPEAKER_00: Like your beauth, the rabban.
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SPEAKER_00: It would seem to mean not like a beuda and not rabbanan.
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SPEAKER_00: Who's a beuda?
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SPEAKER_00: Who's rabanan?
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SPEAKER_00: Titanya.
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SPEAKER_00: We have a breza.
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SPEAKER_00: Hamid Tamid, someone who makes temed, Vinasan Maybe Midah Umatsikadei Midasa, he puts a certain amount of water in it, and he finds a day few days later, whenever it is, the exact amount of water.
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SPEAKER_00: Meaning what?
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SPEAKER_00: Meaning not more.
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SPEAKER_00: You would think if the grapes added something and soaked in, maybe you would find a little more liquid over here.
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SPEAKER_00: But no, the exact shear.
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SPEAKER_00: So it looks like it's mamisha was water before, it's water now.
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SPEAKER_00: It was 10 water, now it's 10 water, and therefore it's the same thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Potr.
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SPEAKER_00: In that case, it's gonna be potr from Maisseris.
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SPEAKER_00: Rabihuda Michael.
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SPEAKER_00: Rabihuda says it's gonna be high.
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SPEAKER_00: Why is it gonna be potter from maceris?
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SPEAKER_00: Because it's not water, it's not wine.
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SPEAKER_00: If it's not wine, it's potter from macres.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just water.
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SPEAKER_00: Therefore, it's gonna be potter from macris, whereas Rabbiud Mahai, Rabyudah is gonna be machaived and say it's gonna be high and macr.
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SPEAKER_00: Because we consider it like wine, says the Gimmar.
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SPEAKER_00: Money, who is the ton of Romishna that said it's Tolo in whether it fermented or not?
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SPEAKER_00: We see over here and Rabbihudah Rabbanan argue, nothing to do with whether it's whether it fermented or not.
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SPEAKER_00: They're just arguing in a case of notamido matsu gadehemidas.
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SPEAKER_00: They didn't say anything about fermenting, so money.
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SPEAKER_00: If it's rabbin and they're gonna tell you, even if it became fermented, you have the same amount of water, and therefore it's not gonna be chaib and meister's.
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SPEAKER_00: I Rebuh, if it's Rebuud, the Afukavalahits.
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SPEAKER_00: Even if it wasn't Machmets, it seems he would be Machaib and Mah in Meister.
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't called it, they didn't talk about it becoming fermenting at all, and that's why that wasn't what the Machlekis was telling it.
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SPEAKER_00: So who is the Mishnah?
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SPEAKER_00: In the name of Rabarahua, that Bishihmits Machlekis.
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SPEAKER_00: Really, you're missing a detail in the Braisel.
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SPEAKER_00: The whole Machlek's Ridd of the Rabban in the Mishnah in the Braisah is only in Bishhachmets, is when it fermented.
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SPEAKER_00: When it fermented, but you have the same amount of water as before and not any more liquid, that's where you have Machlekis and you're in the Rabat.
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SPEAKER_00: Rabban are gonna say, I don't care that it fermented.
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SPEAKER_00: And then today you have the same water, so it's considered like water.
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SPEAKER_00: Whereas Rabuta is gonna say no, it fermented, you're gonna be hive and maestrous.
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SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, Masit and Rabbiuda, and our Mishnah that says once it ferments, you're gonna be hive and maestrous, or it's gonna be considered like wine, which otherwise means you're gonna be hive and maestro.
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SPEAKER_00: That's one of the nafkaminas we've seen so far.
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SPEAKER_00: Our Mishnah is gonna be like Rabiud.
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SPEAKER_00: Is when it fermented.
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SPEAKER_00: But if it didn't ferment, everyone's gonna agree that it's like water.
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SPEAKER_00: Umrnachonamarabara, another face.
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SPEAKER_00: Temed shelok miser, temed that you bought using myestrusheni money.
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SPEAKER_00: Well the besaif ich mit now you bought it before it fermented, and then it ended up fermenting.
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SPEAKER_00: Khanamaiser.
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SPEAKER_00: The alloco is that it's gonna be coined.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, if you bought water with maestrusheni money, it wasn't koine, right?
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SPEAKER_00: It's very simple.
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SPEAKER_00: You can only transfer the kadusha off the money you have of Kedusha's maestrusheni if you could if it's something that you could transfer the cadusha onto, like a wine or a food or a payrus, whatever it was.
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SPEAKER_00: But if it's water, the kadusha push it won't transfer.
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SPEAKER_00: So what if you bought it before it fermented and then it fermented?
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SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna consider it like it worked, and the Kedusha transfer canomizer.
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SPEAKER_00: It's gonna work.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what he says.
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SPEAKER_00: My time.
9:45
SPEAKER_00: But what's the reason?
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SPEAKER_00: Because igloo mils of the Mafreya, the payro.
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SPEAKER_00: Because even though at the time that you bought it it was considered more like Mayan, and then today, since it ended up fermenting, it was igloy milfreya.
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SPEAKER_00: Now you sing maybe Breira, whatever you sing, iglail the milzema freya that really this was perhaps the whole time.
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SPEAKER_00: This was this was yaying and this was wine because it ended up fermenting.
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SPEAKER_00: Elamaknisin.
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SPEAKER_00: But what about our Mishnah that says that it's tallow in uh whether it actually fermented, not whether one day it's gonna ferment.
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SPEAKER_00: So don't we have the same question?
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SPEAKER_00: Duma ishafke avi machmets.
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SPEAKER_00: What did we say?
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SPEAKER_00: If it fermented, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: If it didn't ferment, no, then no.
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SPEAKER_00: But we're talking about a case that you don't know, maybe in the future it would have fermented.
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SPEAKER_00: And we're telling you right now, it's not about that uh you have to wait for that day.
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SPEAKER_00: If that day ever comes, then igloo the Muslim Afraya that it was really next of pairs the whole time.
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SPEAKER_00: And therefore, our Mishnah, you you what did you do?
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SPEAKER_00: You got rid of it.
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SPEAKER_00: You poured it into a mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: How do you know that it's not gonna be good?
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SPEAKER_00: It's why is it Tully in fermenting?
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe if you would have left it for out for a few weeks, it would have fermented.
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SPEAKER_00: So says the Gemara, our Mishnah that says Tullian whether it actually fermented, why?
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe after if you wouldn't have poured it into the mikfah it would have fermented, and if it would have fermented, it was a glanimus at the back before you poured it, it was considered pears the whole time.
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SPEAKER_00: And therefore, says the Gemara, why don't we apply the same logic?
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SPEAKER_00: Amar Rabbah Rabbah explains, and achanami, balabatash.
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SPEAKER_00: We're talking about a case where you left a little bit of it over in a cup, and you see that it didn't ferment.
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SPEAKER_00: If it never fermented, now you see that's the case the mission is talking about.
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SPEAKER_00: Says the Gamma, Rabbah Ammarabba explains, huh, money?
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SPEAKER_00: Who is the tongue of our mission?
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SPEAKER_00: We have a Mishno.
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SPEAKER_00: Kimulugin Mayam Chasurkurtav.
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SPEAKER_00: This is the Allah we said before.
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SPEAKER_00: You have three lugin of Mayyim, Chasar Kurtav.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's not three lugin, it's right under 2.9.
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SPEAKER_00: It's chasr a tiny bit, chasar kurta.
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SPEAKER_00: Shinafu is a kniqutavyain, and a quart of yya'in fell into it.
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SPEAKER_00: So you have mostly water, three minus a tiny bit of water, and a little bit of wine fell in, and that was mashlin the shir to the three lugin.
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SPEAKER_00: Umarein kemara yain.
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SPEAKER_00: But the little bit of wine that fell in actually affected the color of this water that you had, and now it looks like wine.
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SPEAKER_00: Minaflu mikvah, then it fell into a mikveh, a mikvah that was less than 40 sea.
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SPEAKER_00: So you have this three lugan that fell into the mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: Most of it is water, a tiny bit of it is wine, and it looks like wine.
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SPEAKER_00: Like pastul.
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SPEAKER_00: You did not passle the mikvah.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: Why not?
11:53
SPEAKER_00: Because it wasn't three lugan of water.
11:54
SPEAKER_00: Very simple.
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SPEAKER_00: It was 2.9 and a little bit of wine.
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't three lugan a maim shoven, that's why it didn't pass on the mikvah.
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SPEAKER_00: Another case.
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SPEAKER_00: Gimelugan maim chaskurtav.
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SPEAKER_00: Again, same case.
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SPEAKER_00: Gimal Lugan Mayim, you have three lugan chasakurtav.
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SPEAKER_00: So right under three lugan maim, shinafal isaken kurtav chalov.
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SPEAKER_00: That a quirt of a tiny bit of milk fell into it and was mashlin the shear to three lug.
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SPEAKER_00: Umareen kemara maim, but now it still looks like water, meaning the milk didn't affect the colour.
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SPEAKER_00: And mamash still looks like water.
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SPEAKER_00: Rinaful makes him fell into a mikvah that was less than 40.
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SPEAKER_00: So loi plus low.
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SPEAKER_00: Again, it didn't passel it.
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SPEAKER_00: Why?
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SPEAKER_00: Because it's not three lugun and ma'am shovin.
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SPEAKER_00: It's two point nine plus a little bit of milk, and therefore it didn't passel it.
12:31
SPEAKER_00: He argues on this last point.
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SPEAKER_00: Nisa call odek achrahmare.
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SPEAKER_00: It all goes after the mare.
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SPEAKER_00: If it looks like water, it's water.
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SPEAKER_00: And therefore, even though it's 2.9 plus a little bit of milk, and then if it has the mare of water, it's gonna pass it.
12:43
SPEAKER_00: So says the Gemara, what do we see from here?
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SPEAKER_00: Lava marbichna manuri, lav umrbiekna basr chazusa.
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SPEAKER_00: And clearly we see Rebeknah holds that you go after its looks.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: You go after how it looks.
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SPEAKER_00: Basra Khazusa Zlina.
12:52
SPEAKER_00: So Khanami Basr Chazusa Basra Khazusa.
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SPEAKER_00: So so too over here in our Mishnah, I'll tell you that we go Basr Chazusa with time of chazusa dehai mayoninu.
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SPEAKER_00: And right now, when this fell into the mitvah, time of chazusa, it tasted and looked like water, and therefore it's we're gonna go with water.
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SPEAKER_00: And it doesn't matter what happens later, because this Mishnah is Rabbi Akana Minuri that goes according to the Mare.
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SPEAKER_00: Kal Hale Ha mare, Basur Chazusa is lean on there, and therefore if it looked like water when it fell in, I don't care what's gonna happen later, we're gonna go basura that.
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SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemaro Plingi the Rebelezer.
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SPEAKER_00: And this is not going back on the last thing we said, but this is going back on what Ravnachman said before.
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SPEAKER_00: Ravnachman before that said that the whole machik is between Rabbi Huda and the Rabbanan that we brought in the Mishnah of water that fell.
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SPEAKER_00: He finds the same exact amount of water afterwards.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: So Metamid Vinas Ma'imido Matakademid say Potter Rebudu was machaif.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: So that'll machlek Rebu Rabban.
13:46
SPEAKER_00: Ramnachman said what?
13:47
SPEAKER_00: The whole machelik is his Bishahhmits.
13:49
SPEAKER_00: When it was already fermented, that's where the Machlikis is.
13:53
SPEAKER_00: But before it fermented, then everyone's gonna agree it's not gonna be considered wine.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: Says the Gemara, that that Ravnachman said, the whole machelikas between Rebud and the Rabban and his Bishhahmit is not like Urban Lazar.
14:03
SPEAKER_00: That's argument in Ribblazer.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: Why?
14:08
SPEAKER_00: Everyone agrees that Temed, you're not gonna be able to be Mafrish Truma on that to patter something else.
14:13
SPEAKER_00: Mimakamacher.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna be able to be mafrish truma as a maestrus from the temed to patter something else.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: Again, if you have piles of paras, you could take the maestr from here and patel that uh pile, right?
14:23
SPEAKER_00: So maybe from the temet you could take maestrus and patter something that's actually mekhuy for real midarais.
14:27
SPEAKER_00: So maybe this is ma'ividai, so we have to know.
14:29
SPEAKER_00: We have a shallow temat.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: But everyone's gonna agree, says Rabalazar, that in Mafrish and Al Mimakamachar, El Mkay Nichmit, you're not gonna be able to take uh to patr something else by taking maestrus from this tenant unless it was ichmits.
14:41
SPEAKER_00: Meaning what?
14:42
SPEAKER_00: So if it was ichmits, then already some would say that you are allowed to.
14:45
SPEAKER_00: If it became fermented, then you would be allowed to.
14:48
SPEAKER_00: So what do we clearly see from from Ribalazar?
14:50
SPEAKER_00: Kesar, Beloi Ichmat's Machlekis clearly holds that even when it wasn't fermented as machlekis.
14:57
SPEAKER_00: Because what did he say?
15:01
SPEAKER_00: That uh that uh sorry, haqko mindem shame my fresh and low me makamach elimin.
15:05
SPEAKER_00: When you're not gonna be able to take off, when is everyone gonna agree that you're not gonna be able to take off me makoi macher?
15:11
SPEAKER_00: That's uh when it wasn't ich, but what do we clearly see that but when it wasn't machmetz, uh at least you could take off from itself, and that's what the Gamar is about to speak out.
15:22
SPEAKER_00: Meaning, when was the Kpeidah that he said before it fermented that everyone's gonna agree you can't patter something else?
15:27
SPEAKER_00: But Minayu Bei, can you patr it itself?
15:29
SPEAKER_00: Is it gonna be Hayman maistrus by itself?
15:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
15:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm saying that there it would be, and that's not what like what Ram Nachman said, that Arm Nachman said before that the whole machelikes is Bishmits only when it did ferment.
15:38
SPEAKER_00: Clearly, we see the Beleza holds that even when it didn't ferment there's gonna be a machelikus.
15:42
SPEAKER_00: And like Mars is very wordy when it speaks it out.
15:44
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, khmakhlikes.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: And that the Riudah was machaibi to be mafresh maestrus is only Mineu Bei, is only from it itself.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: You have to be my ma uh mafresh from this to patr the temet itself.
15:55
SPEAKER_00: Avil me'alma loi.
15:56
SPEAKER_00: But you're not allowed to be mafrish from the temed to patter something else.
16:02
SPEAKER_00: Because maybe you're gonna come out, maybe it's actually not chaiven maestrus, and you're gonna come out to be mafrish maestrus on something that's actually uh uh chhayev to be a patr to patr something that's actually Chayev and it's not gonna work out.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna do it on the wrong thing, and that's why it's gonna be a problem.
16:16
SPEAKER_00: But either way, what do we see from Rebelazar?
16:18
SPEAKER_00: That clearly he's not going to look Ram Nachman, because Rub Nachman said that the whole machelik was Bisha Hihmits.
16:23
SPEAKER_00: Clearly we see from Ribelezr that the Machlikis is even Bishalaychmetz.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: He's just saying, Aq maidim in that case, that you're not gonna be Mafish me makemachir.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: But Minayubei, there's also machelikis, even if it wasn't achhmits, even if it wasn't fermented yet.
16:34
SPEAKER_00: Tonabanan, we continue along with the brace.
16:38
SPEAKER_00: Again, this temed is quasi wine.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: So before it ferments, mashiko i bimayim.
16:43
SPEAKER_00: So this alocha, another alocha, when you have water that becomes tame, special alaka, all you gotta do is mashiko i bimayim.
16:53
SPEAKER_00: You just uh mashiko e miloshan shika, kiss.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: You make it touch like a shaka.
16:58
SPEAKER_00: You make it touch water, that is a kosher mikvah.
17:00
SPEAKER_00: You make it touch water, that's uh kosher, no problem, and it's metaro all the water.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: It becomes bottle to the good water, you're good to go.
17:06
SPEAKER_00: Now, what about temet?
17:08
SPEAKER_00: Can you do that with other maskin?
17:09
SPEAKER_00: That answer is no.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: Only Rash explains, only uh kalim ve'adum, you're allowed to go into the mikhla.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: If you're a clear or you're a person, then a mikvah can bring you tahara.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: You can't dip uh a pre that's uh you can't dip a uh uh a fruit that's tame into a mikvah and make it okay.
17:23
SPEAKER_00: That's not gonna be water you can't.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: You can do a shakha.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: But either way, what about temed?
17:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, sometimes it's water, sometimes it's wine.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, when it's water, you could, but when it's wine, you're not gonna be able to do this ashaka.
17:32
SPEAKER_00: You can't just be metari by by doing ashaka to regular good water.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: So that's what the brace is saying.
17:37
SPEAKER_00: Hatemed, actually, ihmet's before it ferments, then mashika ibimaim.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: Then you could just mimetire it if it became tamay.
17:42
SPEAKER_00: You could just mashika bimayim by ma'im tahari, and it's gonna be good to go because it's it has the din of water.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: Mesha ichhmits, however, once it ferments, it doesn't have the din of water anymore.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: It's the den of wine.
17:51
SPEAKER_00: You're not able to mimetire wine if it became tamay, and therefore, in mashika bim, it's not gonna help you to uh do hashaka to good to good water.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: So as Gimmar Amarabarab says, That's only true that we learnt that if first you used Mayyam that was ta'har to make the temed, and then once you mixed it in with the grapes, it became tomme.
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SPEAKER_00: Abu tame meikara.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: But if you used water that was already tamme before you put in the grapes, and then you put in the grapes in the water that was already tomme, loi.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: That already is not gonna be trained, you're not gonna be able to, uh it doesn't matter, ichhmmetz loihmits, you're not gonna be able to meet to be metar.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: So, Ravgviya from Bakesil, he came over, and Amr Shmeitzika made the Ravashi.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: He said this over before Ravashi, and he said, I don't understand the difference.
18:37
SPEAKER_00: My shnot made me kari.
18:39
SPEAKER_00: Why are you telling me that in the case where the re where the water was already tame, and then you put in the grapes and made the temed?
18:46
SPEAKER_00: Why in that case are you not gonna be able to be metariat?
18:48
SPEAKER_00: Even Bishaloi Hikmet, Tamrinan I did the Maya Kiri, Shachni Tatoi, because because I'm assuming the Sfara is, we're gonna say that since the water is heavier, so the domayakiri, since the the maya, sorry, the maya is akiri, the water is heavy.
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SPEAKER_00: So shachni tatoi, it's gonna sink to the bottom.
19:03
SPEAKER_00: Uperi kafe mile.
19:04
SPEAKER_00: And the peris, whatever wine you put in, whatever grape parts you put in, is gonna be floating on top.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: And that's the part that's gonna do the ashaka.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: The grapes are gonna be doing the ashaka, and that doesn't work.
19:13
SPEAKER_00: You can't be tired of grapes that are tama.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: And ashaka didn't really reach the water.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: I guess that's your smara.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: But I don't understand the smara.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: Ihahi, teharbusaf net.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: You could say the same thing in the case where you used water that was originally tar even before you put in the grapes, and I only asked you you put in the grapes that became tamah.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: And then today we'll say the same thing.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: That what?
19:33
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but later on when you do ashaka, the grapes are already inside.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: So the grapes are floating on top, the water's heavier, and therefore the ashaka didn't reach the mind.
19:39
SPEAKER_00: You can say the same thing.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: And then the day it's a scientific it's just a scientific thing.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: It's it's uh the fact that Hashaka works is uh, you know, it's a special dinatar.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: Ashaka works.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: If Ashaka works, hashaka works.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: You have the same physical aspect in this in both cases.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: Why would it matter when it became tummy?
19:52
SPEAKER_00: If ashaka's gonna work, it should work, says the Gemara and the Mivalvali.
19:54
SPEAKER_00: So it must be that it mixes in together, and that's why Ashoka works.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: So Khanami Mivalvali, so too.
19:58
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter when it became tummy, when it became tummy.
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SPEAKER_00: If you started with mime tami, or you started with mim tamay, and then the day if a shakha works, hashaka works because we're gonna say it's me'valvil altogether, and ashakha is going to reach the water.
20:09
SPEAKER_00: Says the next Mishnah.
20:14
SPEAKER_00: So, what's this?
20:15
SPEAKER_00: We're talking about two things, mecher and knas.
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SPEAKER_00: Mechar is the idea that a father has the right to sell his daughter as she's a katano.
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SPEAKER_00: Special aloha, a father can sell his daughter, okay?
20:25
SPEAKER_00: Khanas, what's that?
20:26
SPEAKER_00: That's a different aloha.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: That uh I would say unrelated, but the Mishnah relates that uh that the father, or rather, if someone is ma'anis or mefateh, a naira, so he has to pay a kna's, he has to pay Hamishim uh Qasr to the father, and therefore he owes the father a kanas.
20:44
SPEAKER_00: That money goes to the father.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: These are two different allahs, but what the Mishnah is telling us is that call machum shesh mecher in knaas.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: Anytime that the father has the ability to sell his daughter, there's no knaath.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: Why?
20:53
SPEAKER_00: Because he only has the ability the ability to sell his daughter as a khtana.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: Now, she doesn't get a kna he doesn't get a knas if someone's ma'anas her as a ktana, only when she's a naira.
21:01
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, whenever you have mechr, that he has the ability to sell her, that means she's a khtana, which means that if someone's ma'anas her, she's a khtana, not a naira, and therefore ain't knaas.
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SPEAKER_00: But any time that there is a knaath because she's already a naira, ain't mechr.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: He doesn't have the right to sell her anymore because she's already a naira.
21:14
SPEAKER_00: She's not a qtana anymore.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: That's the Mishnah.
21:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, Rabi to says, Amaraf in the name of Raph.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: Zu deviramir, that is Sheeta Sir Meir that we saw in the Mishnah, which works very well because it's stamina remair.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: But that's only Remair.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: Ava Khachamima Imri Amru, but the Khachhamim say that Yesh Knas me makemr.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: That really you do have a time period where you could have a knaas even though the father uh has the right to sell his daughter.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
21:37
SPEAKER_00: That even when she's a khtana, the father is still gonna get a knaas of someone's ma'anisher.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: Okay, even when he has the right to sell her as a khtana, when she's a khtana, he's still gonna get the knap of someone's ma'anisher.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: That's what the khah is gonna say.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: And the whole Mishnah was Rameir.
21:49
SPEAKER_00: Where do we see this to Taniwe Braysa?
21:50
SPEAKER_00: Khtana mibasyoy mechar ad shit cyrus, a khtana from the day that from the from when she's one day old until the time that she brings to Cyrus, that's when she turns a gedayla, Yeshlam.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: She has mechr, meaning the father has the right to sell her, the ain't look nas.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: And she doesn't get a knazz, meaning the father doesn't get a knaff.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: If someone's been honest her, Mesha Tobi Bay Siris.
22:08
SPEAKER_00: Once she gets Baysiris, Achati Bagar, and Sho'tibi until she becomes a big aris, a complete gdayla, that's the stage of Nairis.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: So in the stage of Nairis, Yeshlo Knas be in the mechr.
22:17
SPEAKER_00: Then she has knaas, but not mechr, because she's already a Naira and the father can't sell her anymore.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: Because her mare used to say, like he said in the Mishnah, I'm not sure.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: That actually, Knas applies from the time that Aktana is three years old and one day until she becomes a blager.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: So the father can sell her until when?
22:48
SPEAKER_00: Until she has stays sirus around 12 years old.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
22:51
SPEAKER_00: And when does knas start?
22:52
SPEAKER_00: Three years old.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: And therefore there's a lot of time that it overlaps.
22:55
SPEAKER_00: And that's why the Khachamar are gonna say that there is a time where he's gonna get both kanas and have the ability to do mechar.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: Because again, from gim from three years old already, the Khachamar are gonna hold that she gets a knas, or he gets the knas.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: Knas in mechalloi, says the gmar is just a diyak of what we just said.
23:09
SPEAKER_00: The khacham only said that from the time she's three years old in one day, there's knas.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: That sounds like only kanas, no mechar?
23:14
SPEAKER_00: Really?
23:15
SPEAKER_00: Kanas in mechalloi, what he doesn't have the ability to sell her during the time that she's a katana?
23:19
SPEAKER_00: So the no, obviously he does, it's in a tirah, and therefore ama acht knash mechan.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: We mean even a kanas bimak mechr.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: Meaning not only does he have a knas, or rather not only mechr, but also ach kanas bimak mechr.
23:30
SPEAKER_00: Even knas during that stage of katnus, he's going to have the abilities in the Mishnah that said that it never comes together and it's either one or the other, that's gonna clearly be Sheetah's Riv Meir.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: Says the next Mishnah.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: So continue along in this theme.
23:46
SPEAKER_00: And over here in the Allah Zanar Mishnah are Mion and Khalitza.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: So Mion, Khalitza, we know what that is.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: Mion, just to explain quickly, uh a father has the ability to marry his daughter off.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: It's beatin la satil ish's zakhaf, and therefore it's a din tairah that the father can marry off his daughter, she cannot refuse it, she can't walk away or be min mayan or something like that, because it's dinner taira.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: However, if the father's not around, there's a din derabbana that the mother or the brother is able to marry her off.
24:10
SPEAKER_00: And this is uh they they they do for her takana, who's gonna take care of her, etc.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, it's a good thing, especially back in the day.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: So the mother or the brother can marry her off, but it's not midintaira.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: She is only married on a dirabanan level.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: It's only a kidusha dirabbonan.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: Now, whenever you have that kiddush and dirabanan, because the father and the mother married her off, you also it also comes along with a lacha of mion, which basically means she can meme mine, which means to refuse.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: She can walk away from this, say, hey, not interested.
24:39
SPEAKER_00: Again, when the father marries her off, she cannot, because it's Dindarisa.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: When the mother or brother marries her off, it is only Kedusha Dirabanan, which comes along with the fact that it's called Kidushe Mion, because she has the ability to walk away from this kidusha de Rabbanan.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: So Kalma Kam Shesh Mion.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: And by the way, this only applies while she's a khtano.
24:54
SPEAKER_00: They can't marry her off while she's a kidla anymore.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: It's not a thing.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: So khama kam shayesh miyon.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: Anytime that you have mion, she could still do mion.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
25:01
SPEAKER_00: Because she's a khtana in Khalitsa.
25:03
SPEAKER_00: There's no Khalitza.
25:04
SPEAKER_00: You could do Yibomana Khtana, can't do Khalitza.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: Because Khalitza does not apply by khtana.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, anytime you have mion, which means she's a khtana, in Khalitza, because she's a khtana.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: So she can't do Khalitza.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: You kalma come shahish Khalita.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Anytime where your Khalitza applies, meaning she's a Kedala, in Mion, Mion is not gonna apply because again, Mion only applies by a khtana, very straightforward.
25:20
SPEAKER_00: Zakta Gimara.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: Um Rabbi Damaraav, Zudevre Rameir, Ava Kham Maimrim, Yeshmy and Memakam Khalitza.
25:26
SPEAKER_00: Says Rabidomaraf.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: That Mishnah is also Mishnah or Mayor, it's only she does her mayor.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: The Khachamimargion R Mayor, and they're gonna say Yeshmi'un macham Khalitsa, that you could have a case where you have, she has the ability to do mion even at the same time period that she would technically be able to do Khalitsah.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: Where do we see this?
25:42
SPEAKER_00: Tatani We have a brai.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: So Admas say Abasmi Habas Mima Anis, until what age is a girl who was married or off the Kadusha Drabbana by her mother or brother, until what age is she able to do m'yun?
25:52
SPEAKER_00: At Chitovish Tesaris.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: Until she getsaris, until she becomes an Ayur.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Okay, the very mare, that's she's Rameir, Rabbi Hudaimer.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: And by the way, this is one of the places where we see that Rabbi Huda is considered a Chacham.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: A lot of times we see Zhu Divir Amer of a Chachamimaim.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: Who is Rameer's Babluta?
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Always Rabbi Huda.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: And therefore, that's Rameir.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: But the Chachamim say this.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: So here we see it's Rabihud.
26:11
SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
26:11
SPEAKER_00: We're bringing Rabihudah.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: It's the Chacham many times.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: Vers Rameir, Rabihud is considered the Chacham.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: You'll see that.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: But either way, Zhud American.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: Rabihudaim Rabiudah says, Ad Shay Yarbe Ha Shachar Alavan.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: That she could actually do Mion until not only until until Shah Siris, until Ad Shiyarbe Shachar Al-Lavan, until the black hairs are become much more than the loved on hairs, the white ones, and therefore that's a much later time period than the first Shah Siris she ever sees.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: So she could do mion up until that point.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: And when sh when can you do Khalitza?
26:39
SPEAKER_00: After Shah Siris.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: So in between the time that she gets Shah Siris, till Yarbis Shochar Al-Alabon, she actually has the ability to do both Mion and Khalitha.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: So you do have an overlap according to Rabihuda, or as Rabiuda Marav said, the Rabbanan.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: So our Mishnah that said that you never have both together, that is clearly Shita's Ramair.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: And says the last Mishnah for Tere and for the parrot, Khomach Shaish Tkiya in Abdullah.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: Khalmacham Sheesh.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: Abdullah in Tkiya.
27:04
SPEAKER_00: So back in the day there was a minic or haloch even, Michael, talk about it.
27:08
SPEAKER_00: That they used to do thiyas, specifically t six tkias on Eraf Shabbis.
27:12
SPEAKER_00: Why?
27:13
SPEAKER_00: Kind of like we have we have a Ramkol today, it's Alpida Ramah that says it's based on the same thing.
27:16
SPEAKER_00: You're supposed to have and be machriz before Shabbos, so you know when Shabbos is coming in.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Back in the day they didn't have clocks, especially, so you have to know when to stop uh working in the fields.
27:23
SPEAKER_00: There were Shesh Tkias on Erashabis, six different ones.
27:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh for each point in the day to tell you when to leave from the fields, to tell you when to start doing Ad-Lakasniris, etc.
27:31
SPEAKER_00: But either way, the tkios that you did was on a general young hull.
27:37
SPEAKER_00: Now, what about when you have a Yomtiv that's Halba Araf Shabbas?
27:39
SPEAKER_00: You have a Yamtiv on Eraf Shabbos.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna do tkiyas?
27:41
SPEAKER_00: So you would think that listen, you're going from Kadusha Kalah to Kadusha Chamura, because you're going from Yomtiv to Shabbos.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: You also have to know when Shabbos is coming in, because on Yomtiv you're allowed to do uh anything for Aikhal Mafash, things that you're not allowed to do on Shabbos.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: So there's still a need to be taika, let's say this past year.
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SPEAKER_00: We just had a couple of days ago.
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SPEAKER_00: We had Shmu's on Araf Shabbos.
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SPEAKER_00: So we had Shmu'is, now it was Kedusha Kalah, and we came into Shabbos, that's Kedusha Chamurah.
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SPEAKER_00: So should we do the Tiyah, which is blowing a shifer, which is really not supposed to be done usually on Yomtiv or Shabbiz, but should we do the tkias on Erev Shabbis, which is actually Yamtiv, to tell you when Shabbas is coming in.
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SPEAKER_00: So says the Mishnah, and uh unrelated Allah, but one of the comparing and contrasting in the Mishnah is Abdullah.
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SPEAKER_00: Meaning, do we do Abdullah also when Yomtiv's going into Shabbos?
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SPEAKER_00: So we know that we didn't, right?
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SPEAKER_00: You only do it from Kedusha Khamura to Kedusha Kala.
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SPEAKER_00: But Kedusha Kala to Kedusha Khmura, we're not gonna.
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SPEAKER_00: That's why we didn't say Abdullah on Friday night.
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SPEAKER_00: Right?
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe you should do Abdullah, me and Khadash Kadis.
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SPEAKER_00: No, we only do that when m when uh Yumtiv is after Shabbos.
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SPEAKER_00: Mean Khadush Kadis when you're going down in a level of Kedushah but either way, that's what the Mishnah is saying over here.
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SPEAKER_00: That Khomakam Shah Shkiya in Abdullah.
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SPEAKER_00: Anywhere where you're gonna have a tq a tkiya on er of shabbis, ain't abdullah.
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SPEAKER_00: Then you wouldn't say Abdullah over there.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna explain.
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SPEAKER_00: But shayash abdallah and tkiya.
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SPEAKER_00: Anywhere where you do say Abdullah in between Shabbos, Yamtiv, etc., we're not gonna be Taikaia.
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SPEAKER_00: What is the case?
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SPEAKER_00: Zak the Mishnah with the intro we gave.
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SPEAKER_00: Yomtev Shikhaliya's Berah Shabbas, Taikin Vlay Mavdilin.
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SPEAKER_00: A Yomtev Shachalias Berah Shabbas like this past year.
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SPEAKER_00: So taikin vilay Mavdilin.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna do the tkiya.
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SPEAKER_00: Why?
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SPEAKER_00: To show you that Kedusha Khamura is coming in, Shabbaz is coming in, Vilaim Mavdilan.
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SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna do Abdullah because you're going into Morhammer Kadusha.
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SPEAKER_00: There's no Abdullah by Kiddish going into Shabbos.
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SPEAKER_00: However, but Matzi Shabbas, if Yomtev fell out of Matzi Shabbas, so Yomtiv is Sunday, so Shabbaz goes right into Yomtiv, then Mavdilan will take in.
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SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna be Taikia.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't blow the Shifer, we don't sound the alarm and the Shabbos bell on on uh Shabbis, on Erav Yomtiv, on Shabbat's elbow, because you're going down a level in Kedusha.
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SPEAKER_00: However, but we are gonna be Mavdil bin Kohdesh Lukadesh as we're gonna see.
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SPEAKER_00: Kate San Mavdil and what are you saying, Abdullah?
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SPEAKER_00: Hamadil bin Kaidesh Likoidesh, as we know.
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SPEAKER_00: And our base aimer bin Kaidosh Khamel Likadesh Shakal.
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SPEAKER_00: His Nusakhis bin Khoidesh Achamar Likadesh Hakal.
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SPEAKER_00: You're going from higher level to a lower level, and we're gonna see in the Gamarva Less Hilkha Sakavasa.
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SPEAKER_00: How exactly do you do this tkiya on specifically on yumtuv Shechaliya Sba'er Shabis?
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SPEAKER_00: On a yumtu of like this past year of Shua's going into Shabbis.
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SPEAKER_00: Um Rebuh the Rabiudah says, You do a tkiya and meria, miriya melash and shua.
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SPEAKER_00: You do a tkiya and a trua.
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SPEAKER_00: Basically, it's kiya that goes straight into a trua.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't stop, you do a tkiya that forms itself into the the sound of a trua.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay?
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SPEAKER_00: Mitoychatkiya.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what Rabita says.
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SPEAKER_00: Takeo, mereyah mitoyhatkio.
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SPEAKER_00: That you start with a tkyya and you go straight into a trua.
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SPEAKER_00: Whereas Rabasi says, similar but a little bit different.
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SPEAKER_00: Rabasi, Yamar, takeo, meria banashima achas.
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SPEAKER_00: That you actually have to do it in one breath.
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SPEAKER_00: You could stop a little, it sounds like from Rabashi in between, but you have to do it in one breath.
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SPEAKER_00: As long as you did it in one breath, a tkiya and a true, you're gonna be good to go.
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SPEAKER_00: Ask in Rabasi butzal, keshmaitse.
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SPEAKER_00: Ribasi actually established in the city of Hutzel, he was Mesakin Keshmaitzi, like what he said, that as long as you do it but Nishima achas in one breath, it's gonna be good.
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SPEAKER_00: We only do a tkiya, we don't do a trua.
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SPEAKER_00: My love lemirian doesn't mean that you don't do a trua at all.
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SPEAKER_00: Rabbi the mitat salim, Rabasi Matarat's.
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SPEAKER_00: Are you each gonna answer according to what they said?
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SPEAKER_00: Ribuda Mitatzamay Limirin with Nat's me.
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SPEAKER_00: He's just gonna explain the brace.
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SPEAKER_00: It means Limirin Bifn'atma.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't make a trua by itself, alumit to each other, but you do make a tqia that turns into a trua.
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SPEAKER_00: Rabasi Matatzatamay, Limerin Bishteinish Ab Elam and Shima Achas Ravashi.
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SPEAKER_00: Also answers that what it means is you don't do it with two different breaths.
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SPEAKER_00: But as long as you made one breath, you're gonna do the tqia and the trua, and that's going to be good.
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SPEAKER_00: Ends of the Gemara, or rather, two more pieces of Matshish Shab is Heihi Ummarlah.
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SPEAKER_00: So how exactly do you say Abdullah?
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SPEAKER_00: And Matshish Shab is going into Yomtiv, you're going from Kadush Khamura again of Shabbas to Kadusha Kala of Yomtiv.
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SPEAKER_00: So how exactly, what's the Nusak of the Abdullah that you say?
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SPEAKER_00: Um Ribiyuda Bachasimasa.
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SPEAKER_00: Ribiuda says you only say Hamadum and Khadush Khadishh at the end of the Braqa.
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SPEAKER_00: So we know the Brahab Abdullah starts.
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SPEAKER_00: So maybe in the beginning we should also say Hamadum Kadish L Khidash, Ma'du Min Kudish lhur, l'hhal, been or the khoshik.
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SPEAKER_00: Should we say also in the beginning or only at the end?
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SPEAKER_00: So Rabbi says Bachasimasa, only at the end.
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SPEAKER_00: But the Allah is not like him.
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SPEAKER_00: Ribday summer, been khadish, khama shakal.
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SPEAKER_00: That was the Nusak he said in the Mishnah.
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SPEAKER_00: Again, as we said, Vilasikabas.
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SPEAKER_00: The Allah is not like him, but rather what do we say?
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SPEAKER_00: Hamavdu bin Kadush Kadish.
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SPEAKER_00: Am Rib Zayrah, Rib Zer just says that Yomtah Shakaliya is the emth shabas.
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SPEAKER_00: Yomtah that falls out in the middle of the week.
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SPEAKER_00: What should you say?
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SPEAKER_00: Meaning you should think maybe you should say, uh, Mnat Hamavju bin uh meaning should you use the same lush of Shabbis as well, Shesh is given maisa, etc.
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SPEAKER_00: So says Reb Zerrah that yes, a Yomtu that falls out in the middle of the week and you're being maddo on a Tuesday night.
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SPEAKER_00: What's the reason that you're using the same Nusakh that you use on Shabbos talking about Shayshismeya Maisa and Shabbis?
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SPEAKER_00: Because Saidr Abdullah Summa, you're just counting the Saidr Abdals, the different Avdalais that a Qadraj Baruch put into the world, and one of the main avdals we have is bin Qadj Sukh, bin Shabiz, Shayshismeya Maiseh, and with that Hajj Allah, the first paragraph call.
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SPEAKER_00: Tomorrow's second paragraph was of his colour.