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Lil' Slugger? i Hardly know her - Paranoia Agent - Anime Club · Anime Club Podcast

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Hello, it's Chris Doone, one of them creepy intros before the
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actual anime club start. Just to tell you that at the end
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here, Dan, our amazing guest, has announced that he's working
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on a special project, but it's actually been revealed since the
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time of recording until now. So Saturday the 10th of January
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2026 at the Quad Mogga Place in Derby, he's announced anime a go
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go, which is a day of classic Japanese animation.
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There's Patna ball the movie Macross plus movie edition
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memories and perfect blue. And if you're in the area, give
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it a watch, go attend Dan's put on some amazing films in with
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with Pollock Press and I wish him all the best.
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And I kind of stressed how much it's one of them use a lose it
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situation. So it's amazing bringing anime
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to everyone on the big screen and I kind of support it enough.
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But anyway, on with the show. Well, hello and welcome to
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another episode of Anime Club. Today is a very special episode
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because we have Phoebe joining me like normal.
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I'm Chris, I'm got a very special guest.
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Dan, how you doing? Hi guys.
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Yeah, that's fine. Thanks for having me on.
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And it's, yeah, it's nice to be in my spare room and on this
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show, in my spare room, it's. Lovely to have you diving in
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from your spare room with your very like as I said before as we
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were getting ready, very, very stylish bookcase.
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I feel like we're talking to a proper professional.
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No, no, no, no books. So none of those are mine.
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Just just rent them, rent them, things like this.
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Just before war, when we've started recorded there, you
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would just seen that all them books of philosophy and you
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actually wrote them all. I'd love to hear and pass it
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down, Josie. Yeah, yeah.
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All about hardcore subjects, yeah.
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Too hardcore for you, Chris. You could be able to handle.
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You wouldn't be able to handle the can't.
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Sorry. He's a, he's a philosopher.
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Emmanuel Plant. You too?
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Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, see, thanks for
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coming on. You got to talk about it.
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Was your pick actually Paranoia Agent?
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But yeah. Before we talk about that, what
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what got you into anime? What started?
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All off. So in 42 now it's going to be
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that that classic kind of manga entertainment era stuff coming
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out on VHS go into like HMV. It's the foreign film section.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stuff that stuff that you can't
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buy yourself when you're that age and see probably ended up
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ended up buying like something that's a bit tamer because you
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can buy it yourself when you're in college.
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And and then seeing that the classic kind of Mango
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Entertainment sizzle reel with the kind of amazing kind of rock
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music, which at the time, I don't know why, but I just
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always thought, oh, manga have great music.
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I just didn't understand how licensing works.
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And years later I was like, Oh yeah.
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I mean, I haven't thought about this for a while now.
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And yeah, it's obviously a band's making cool music and
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Manga Entertainment just licensed it and I found out
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it's. Yeah, it's like Celtic Frost
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anyway, like that, that amazing sizzle reel was just still think
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it's just, I mean, big, big kind of nostalgic thing.
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But I think it's just incredible, sort of adrenaline,
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kind of insane. 2 minutes of. Yeah, just questionable stuff.
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Yeah. That's what.
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Yeah. And then you kind of like, you
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learn what all the big hitters were, and then you sort of.
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Yeah. But I guess at the time I was
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also skinned. So anything that was like a
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series, I just didn't didn't watch it.
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I couldn't afford it. So you're just, and I like
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getting the big hitters like, you know, the sort of, yeah, the
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sort of like Mount Rushmore of, of like classic anime, but yeah.
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Is it, is it mean if I ask you what's on your Mount Rushmore?
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So there's like 4. It'd be like your four big
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classic animes. Yeah, I mean from that era it's
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they're going to be pretty obvious, but it's going to it'll
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be like Akira, it's in the shell and it won't be any like it
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won't be any sort of Ghibli because of the sort of manga
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entertainment. It's got to be from their
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roster. So it'd be probably like at
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Labour and then probably like the Street Fighter 2 animated
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movie, like when you're a teenager that's it's going to be
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big, you know, Street Fighter was massive so.
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I've remember pausing it at a very specific scene of that
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film. But yeah, like everyone did.
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It was like our what's a film called?
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And we should cross our legs. Basic Instinct.
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That's it. Yeah, there is for science, an
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animated version of Sharon Stone cross to their legs.
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But. Yeah, What made you pick
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Paranoid Agent? So, yeah, obviously big fan of
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of con. So I was thinking of some what
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something that you guys haven't done already.
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And then I guess sadly, there's not a great amount to choose
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from with him, you know, hasn't been passing away.
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Probably about my age. And yeah, I just thought I've
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actually seen paranoia, paranoia agent.
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But like years ago, and I think we were, we were saying earlier
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that even at the time I couldn't explain to somebody else what
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was going on in it. So I thought, yeah, quite like
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to watch that again and try and work out what the Hell's
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happening. So.
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Yeah, which gave me a sense of relief because I actually begged
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Chris earlier. I was like, please don't ask me
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to describe what it was about because I'm not entirely sure I
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have figured it out yet. So when you said, when you say
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that, I'm like, oh, it's not just me.
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Yeah. So I don't think you get a full
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idea what it's about from the first 3 episodes.
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It kind of throws a lot at you. What leads nicely into me saying
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So? What is it about to Dad?
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So even when I was re watching these first three a couple of
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days ago thing, I just consciously went down the route
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of just making a couple of notes and they were very much like
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this is what makes me think of rather than like this is what
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it's about. Because not Chris.
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And I would just end up with like egg on my face if I was
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trying to first try to like stump out and like try and
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explain it to somebody. Yeah, just wouldn't work and I
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would have no no confidence saying it.
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But yeah, I've got ideas on what it makes me think of like the
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some of the themes and stuff. But yeah.
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That's fine. I mean, and have a go if you if
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you want and then we'll go into what it makes you think of after
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if you want. Well, suppose seems to be a big
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thing about like just the state of society.
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It always seems to keep coming back to like a society that's
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probably like overburdened and also kind of repressed in ways
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and overstimulated. And and obviously in a lot of
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his feature films, he's always seemed to be quite into like
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blaring of like dreams, reality, fantasy and and and what like
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sort of living in what was the early Internet age kind of has
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the potential to sort of exacerbate all of that and drive
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people mad today. But it seems to be a lot of that
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swirling around but. Yeah, and he does a lot of the.
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So like if I was going to try and badly describe what this is
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about, it's really like, and I think this is true of a lot of
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his work is it's actually quite a simple like basically there's
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always like a really simple mystery at the heart of
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everything he does. So in this is there has been a
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series of attacks by a character in roller blades with a gold
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back called Little Slugger. And each episode focuses on
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someone who has been attacked or like a different piece of the
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puzzle. But then swirling around that,
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you always have like these themes around perception and
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what's real, like what is in foot like and also like what's
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the perspective of the different characters and what about their
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lives changes the way that they perceive their reality.
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And it's the same for like Tokyo Godfathers.
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You have like, you know, the mystery is where's the baby
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from? How do we get the baby home?
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And it's also the same for pre care.
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It's like who's the person who's stolen the dream device?
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So you always have like this mystery, but then it's like the
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investigating of it is the yeah, you you play around with all
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these things. And I think there is a big thing
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in this about like mass delusion and fear and the, and the
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hysteria that crisis can provoke in crowds.
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And then how that, and I think that's like obviously where the
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title paranoia, how that creates this sense of paranoia or as
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like who's the attacker? Who's, who's going to be the
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next victim? And it kind of builds the
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tension each each episode as you get like an another.
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Well, I think we're being given pieces of a puzzle that I do not
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understand. Yes, I suspect there have been
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many clues and so far I have missed everyone because I
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genuinely don't know what's going on or who the killer is.
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But I know that there are some characters.
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I really hope they don't get slugged.
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That's all I know. I.
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Don't know because they don't die when they get snubbed by a
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little slugger. Yeah, but still, you don't want
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to see people that you like get slugged.
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Yeah. That might not like all of them.
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Some people deserve a slug. Little slice seems.
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It seems to be the as I going past episode 3, I honestly can't
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remember the instances where like slugger kind of gets almost
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gets summoned, but like definitely in the first three.
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It seems to be like when somebody re somebody goes beyond
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the point of old sort of rationality and kind of loses
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it. And now they either want to
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escape or they want to get revenge or they just their
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emotions get too much and they kind of go off the edge and then
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that seems to summon little slugger to do his slugging.
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Yes, it's. It, it almost feels like, you
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know, like those old camp stories where you have like, oh,
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there's like old McGinty in the woods who'll get you if you
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misbehave. There's an element of that kind
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of like urban mystery to little Slugger as the as it progresses,
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especially when, and I felt like that especially is it episode 2
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where you're in the high school and the kids are trying to like
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are basically saying that like the weird kid in their class is
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little Slugger. Yeah.
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And you you proper feel that kind of like urban campfire
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story kind of energy from it. Yeah, it's good.
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It's yeah, it's. Weird that used to kind of see
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it as them Little Slugger going after people.
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It was a bad thing because I saw it was a good thing for everyone
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who was sloped because not because I didn't like them or
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anything. That's just a little part of it.
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But it was like in the first episode, there was a create a
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character designer who made the little teddy with a massive
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head. She was under a lot of stress
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and she was trying to sign a new character and it seemed that
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when she was bopped on the head by Little Slugger, the kind of
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pressure went away for her. The second one, which was a
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schoolboy who was the attack, it happened since then and they
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were like, Oh well, everyone thinks it's me because I roller
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rollerblades and I like fit the description really well.
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I've been attacked. So it takes the suspicion off
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me. And the third one, and is about
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a nice way to put it, a woman sex burger.
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Yeah, thank you. Who was a secret sex burger?
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Fiance didn't know that. And our two worlds where she was
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like a housewife during the day or an office worker and the kind
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of the lives kept leaching into each other like the taxi driver
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she had seen as a client before. And so there were like merging
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as one. She got bopped on the head by
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Little Slugger and that kind of went away a little bit, so I saw
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it was like a good. Thing yeah, there's sometimes
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it's definitely like the character wants to escape and
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like get out of a situation can't work out how to do it in a
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you know, without the aid of of some mysterious in mind skating,
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yeah. So it's it's kind of like if you
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had a big meeting at work or something if little slugger came
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along bopped you on the head nearly woke up the next day or
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do off to the meeting anymore worked out our hits.
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We've all been there. Sorry, the.
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Dog's kicking it. But no were both me and Phoebe
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both commented on the on the opening?
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Because there's a very interesting opening song and
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then, but then animation. What?
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What did you think of it? Well, I think it was probably
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from seeing it in episode 2, I was, I'm looking at the credits
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because I know like a little bit about the composer.
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You know, it's that Suzumu Hiroshawa, I think he's done
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quite, he did quite a bit of work with Con, But so I wrote
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down because the credits give you the name of what that
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track's called and let me just so it's called Dream Island
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Obsessional Park. And I just feel like that's
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quite nice. Kind of you've got this kind of
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because I feel like especially like during the end credits,
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you've got this kind of loads of people asleep on a bit of grass.
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And then the big mascot is it Aromi and a lot bigger than we
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normally see the mascot and the mascot's the only one that's
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awake. And it's like makes me think of
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like the unconscious of everyone on in Japan or and then this
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fictional character is kind of like the king of is, is is is in
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charge of this kind of everyone's in the land of
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everyone's kind of dreaming or something.
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So I don't know. It's like makes me think of like
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things like collective unconscious and stuff.
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But yeah, I can't say a lot more about it, you know, but it feel
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like it's and then and then. Sort of.
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Oh, sorry, I was just picking up on that thing about like the
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collective consciousness thing. This idea of like shared
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dreaming, shared delusion is something that feels like, it's
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very, like, present in the themes of each episode, but also
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in Paprika because that is about like literally about what
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happens if we were to share our dreams and share our
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consciousness. Yeah, yeah.
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It's that interesting interplay between like the waking world
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and how that connects us into our, oh, sleep.
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Sorry, I interrupted you. You were.
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Going to say anything then. I know.
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Yeah. It's like this idea that like
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this, this kind of mascot that seems to be made primarily to
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sell like merch and stuff as massively popular.
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The idea that that or the the need to like, make another hit
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mascot. People's like real sort of
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livelihood depends on it. And it's like, so like this kind
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of fictional on some levels, like mascot is more like
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culturally important than like a homeless person that you see in
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the, you know, in one of the episodes that's kind of outside
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of on the edge of society, you know, like, so I don't know what
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I'm trying to say, but I feel like.
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There's like a kind of capitalist capitalism is king
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and it like it's there's in having it awake and alert while
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everyone else is sleeping. That kind of says something
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about its position in in negative consciousness and yeah,
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I think. So yeah, yeah, like the
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obsessional part that the track title is like, yeah, yeah.
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This kind of overstimulated kind of island of people.
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Yeah, goodnight. Actually like set the tone, but
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yeah. It it it does that wrong because
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there is some weird moments like the Marumi coming alive and
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talking to the creator as well. So do you think you see it's all
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in their head? Yeah, well, I mean at this
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point. Yes, I'm, I'm sure.
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Shit, I'm I'm smiling. I'm next with.
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This is how. This is how you tell us that
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your cuddly toys are talking to you.
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But. Yours, not you.
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Have cuddly does. I do like it when you do the
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voices, but yeah. Like everyone seems to be
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suffering some kind of psychosis where like someone changes or
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there's like a as in where Robbie comes alive or the the
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school kid when he realized when he talks about his other
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classmates saying that he's little slugger, the faces change
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and the perception of him goes all WAVY and horrible.
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So I don't know if that's about people's difference.
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Like it switches to his perspective of what he thinks
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the outside world thinks of him. Same with Miromi with them,
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right? I'm not sure how to say her
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name. Tukiko Siki Kang.
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Yeah. Cool.
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Yeah, There. Oh.
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Yeah. The the designer.
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Yes, that's it, Miss Saki. Yeah, but.
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Yeah, I I just thought it was interesting how it switches.
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I'm pleased with the perception where sometimes you don't know
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if it's from them or from you, so they could be in the must
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hysteria dream thing. I I think so.
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And I also think that Satoshi Khan does this con.
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So he does this amazing thing with a lot of his work where he,
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he tries to force you into the mindset of his characters.
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And I think there's something about having that vet like,
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because the opening track is like what, like an assault on
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the sensors. I think I was saying before,
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like the first time I watched it, I couldn't really take in
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what was happening because it a lot and very sudden and the
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visuals are fast and dynamic and you're kind of like almost dazed
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as the show starts and you have like Eddie was freaking out.
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It was a whole thing. And you have that.
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And I think when he's playing with the perception of the
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animation itself, you then also have like, this experience of
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what the characters are seeing and feeling just through the
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kind of like WAVY, distorted perception of reality.
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And then you're like experiencing their journey at
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the same time that they are experiencing it.
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In a way, it's like quite visceral.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Did it remind you as well of Paprika as well?
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You know the dream sequences there because they they were
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about mental square. They were super mental.
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And there are moments where you're, you have no idea, like
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you're not sure when because you know what's going to happen is
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that he's going to cut into another dream, but you don't
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know how it's going to happen. And it's different every time.
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And you like about halfway through the film, you're like
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watching the scene to see what part of the scene is going to
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distort. And there's almost like a
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inexperience when you're watching this, which is very
23:34
similar, but maybe like less. I think as this come, this is
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one of his first things, right? So this is him like, testing out
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a lot of his techniques that you see in his later films, I feel.
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Yeah, Yeah. And you see him testing out some
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of that, like, OK, how can I kind of set people on edge or
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how can I draw them into the story and make them really watch
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by fucking with their perception of reality?
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Because it does have you, like, going.
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Hang on a minute. What just happened?
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Like now the dog's talking to the woman.
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What's going on? Yeah, it's great.
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I lost it. Yeah, it definitely it feels
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like, so I say like a tore through this sort of themes that
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he's really into and and Will has and will kind of explore in
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more in more in more depth in his features.
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Yeah, it's like a bit of a, I wouldn't say all your greatest
24:34
hits, but it's like definitely feels like a tore through.
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These are the things that's kind of making him tick and he wants
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to like. Watching, watching his early
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sketchbook in a way of like, these are the things that have
24:48
caught my attention. And I'm going to spend some time
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working this out for the next couple of films.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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So I was just trying to quietly open drink.
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That didn't work. Very quiet.
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Yeah. Do you think Little Sugar is
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meant to be a liberal person in this?
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Do you think it's severe? Like.
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Oh. I feel like.
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Be a little person, a real person.
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I feel like having watched it all but a long time ago, I
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should probably know this, but I don't.
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I'd like him to be. I'd like to learn a bit more
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about him. Honestly can't remember if you
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do. Yeah, I'd like to him to be a
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real kind of a real figure, but maybe some of the details are
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maybe like superimposed on to him or you know, like he's he's
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a real character. But yeah, honestly can't
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remember. That's all that.
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That's fine because I'll watch this on on YouTube and I, I
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could see the comments of people that I've read and nine times
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out of 10 people were saying, oh wow, because I'm re watching
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this for the second time. It's weird how they give you all
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the answers in the first episode, even in the intro and
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I'm just to be trying to look at things and it's horrible.
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So I didn't know if it would be obvious to you because it would
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have been your second time watching this.
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Yeah, but from the first 3 episodes, who do you want to be,
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little Slugger? Do you want to be like an
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obvious person, outsider or someone from the first 3?
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My, my, my honest thing was I thought it was going to be the
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illustrator from like the get go because I was like, well,
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clearly she's insane. She's talking to her own
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creation. Like if that doesn't say
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psychosis, I don't know what does.
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But again, doesn't make sense because she gets attacked,
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right? So it can't be her.
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What about you, Don? Well, yeah, yeah.
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I feel like, I feel like it's somebody that we haven't already
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met yet. But I'm not.
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I'm not trying to like, give. I'm not trying to, like, drop
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booze because I genuinely can't. Yeah.
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As well as watching the opening sequence carefully, I'm now
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watching you carefully to see if you get any clothes.
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Scratch. My neries are better.
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The guy who touches his nose in episode 6?
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Yeah. I.
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Kind of want it to be the slimy journalist just because they
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don't like him. Yeah, it can't be, because he's
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way too. I know it can't be.
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Oh, I kind of wanted to be a mass hysteria thing where it's
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just a bunch of people being hit on the head and they'll be like,
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oh, yeah, and that sounds right. And it was a guy with the bent
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bat in the golden pair of skates.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, To be fair, like that thing I.
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Was going to say if you saw someone go around on golden
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skates you would recognize them straight away.
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It's not common thing. It's not, dude.
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Every. Oh, what, you mean Golden State
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gold Skate Steve? Yeah, everyone knows him.
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The one with the bat. Yeah, yeah, Loves playing
28:35
baseball. He can't stop him from skate.
28:38
Can't stop him from skating down to the baseball path.
28:40
Do. You like the bridge on his butt?
28:45
I like so I like to look at the the name and imagine that the
28:49
apostrophe is not there and it's slugger or something.
28:55
Lil Slugger, Yeah, yeah, I kind of love that She she.
29:03
Could with a name. Like that, she could only become
29:05
one thing. Yeah, I do.
29:10
I quite like the idea of him being like a kind of mass
29:13
deluger that it's like that thing that they do in so when
29:16
whenever there's like like a very notorious serial killer,
29:21
what happens is the police get flooded with calls.
29:26
People are convinced that their neighbor is the killer and is
29:30
this kind of like this peak. So sometimes what happens is you
29:33
really like to like I say they as if I know I've heard it on a
29:37
true kind podcast that people will release very specific
29:41
information or withhold specific information so they can very
29:44
easily weed out whether things are real or like part of the
29:48
mass hysteria around something. And I quite like the.
29:51
Idea. Of Lillian Slugger being.
29:55
Being being like. The all of the hysteria around
29:59
an actual crime and actually only one person actually gets
30:02
attacked by Lillian. Yeah, yeah, I feel like.
30:09
Again. I.
30:10
Can't. Remember how where this goes?
30:12
But like I feel like this sort of.
30:16
Elderly. Sort of homeless people that are
30:21
almost addicting or commenting on the plot.
30:27
Just I feel like. And they're obviously on the
30:30
edge of, they don't seem to be infected by the kind of hysteria
30:39
of, like, this sort of busy society.
30:42
Like, there must be. I wish.
30:45
I wish I could remember if that develops.
30:47
But it must do because there's all the kind of chalk drawings
30:51
on the floor, which I think that this guy ain't.
30:55
The guy writes down someone's hospital room number and other
31:00
stuff. Yeah.
31:01
So yeah, I feel. Like there must.
31:03
Be something to that. And there was.
31:06
That old. Lady at the first attack,
31:10
because the the designer, the Boromi, she saw an old lady
31:17
rummaging through the some bins or something.
31:22
Remember that. Like I was thinking.
31:23
It's the oldies, the invites, getting all these.
31:27
That's the million, you know. Yeah, it but.
31:30
Then maybe they're the ones who figure out who it really is.
31:33
This rather than me like because that again would be like very
31:39
that feels. Like a Tokyo.
31:40
Godfather's move where it's like you see sort of turns in like.
31:43
Midsummer bridges are the ones who figure it out.
31:46
Yeah, yeah. You know how?
31:49
Sometimes in Midsummer murders, there's Little Slugger with
31:52
Golden Gate. If that was Midsummer Murders.
31:57
I would be watching every week. I would love.
32:00
That, yeah. But don't worry, sorry.
32:08
I'm going to say good old shonen bat which which one of the
32:18
characters from the first 3 episodes haven't seen The head
32:20
as well is your favorite because there's the star is the designer
32:25
of Maromi. The second one is the schoolboy
32:29
who thought he was being bullied.
32:31
And the third. One is the sex worker.
32:37
Let me. Yeah.
32:39
What do you think, Dan? My.
32:43
Favorite. Character.
32:44
To to watch is the journalist, but I also think he's definitely
32:53
he's like shown us that he's definitely a terrible human
32:56
being, but it's just it's fun and he and he I feel like he's
33:02
going to be quite important. Yeah, and he's, he's.
33:06
I just think he's great to watch.
33:07
But yeah, he's a rotter. He is a rotter and he is a
33:12
creep. And I kind of hope he also has a
33:14
come to Jesus moment because it would feel like a good that
33:21
would feel interesting to me. I, I really enjoyed the the
33:26
third the sex worker story. That's where I was starting to
33:30
get like, like I could feel because I think the first
33:32
episode I was just confused. Great.
33:35
The second episode I was like. OK, I think I'm starting to get
33:38
the hang of this right now. Maybe I just need to suspend any
33:41
questions that I have and just ride the weirdness out.
33:46
And then in the third. Episode but like I'd kind of
33:48
like gone OK, so we've accepted the weirdness and I'm now into
33:51
the story and getting attached to characters and I felt for her
33:55
a lot and and also I was like, wait, because when she's
33:58
listening to like the what's it called voicemails.
34:04
Machine. Yeah, when she's.
34:05
Listening to the voicemails and having a bit of like a kind of a
34:09
mare with it. Yeah, the the voicemail.
34:15
I just really feel for her. That's the voicemails.
34:18
Is like so like con always it's like good devices to kind of
34:25
illustrate somebody kind of unraveling and like losing who
34:32
they are. And yeah, I think that's just a
34:33
really good, a really good, like simple, but like really good way
34:39
of doing that. I think.
34:41
Yeah, it remained. It's a great way to.
34:43
Like, do the exposition without it just being spoon fed to you.
34:49
Like, it's a really lovely plot device.
34:51
Yeah, yeah. But I thought was a.
34:53
Friend. Ringing at first, you know, and
34:55
it's to say, oh, you're going to have to stop this kind of thing.
34:58
And I was like, oh, it's either a mom or a friend or someone
35:01
who's like, very close to her. And then I was like, oh, this is
35:03
kind of like a the machinist kind of deals.
35:07
The Geordie leaves hangman on the fridge.
35:10
Yeah. Because at first I thought it
35:13
was like, oh, her husband's having an affair and that's why
35:16
it's like she's have like having a hard time or something.
35:21
And this is how she's found out. And then she's trying to like, I
35:25
don't know. And.
35:26
Then you kind of like. Clock, it's like, Oh no, no,
35:28
it's it's she's the one who's trying to talk to herself.
35:33
Yeah, also. I didn't realize that she was a
35:39
couple with with that bloke. I thought they were Co workers
35:42
until he turned around and just dropped it.
35:44
Oh by the way, will you marry us?
35:46
I was like, this is that how is that how it goes down?
35:50
It's how easy you did. I came totally out of the blue
35:55
for me. I didn't like you were saying.
35:58
Like I didn't know whether there was a bit more that I should
36:01
have picked up on or whether it was actually just supposed to be
36:05
completely random. Like let's do this say, because
36:11
she she. Bring a bring a box in dubuis
36:14
and looked like an office and I thought there were Co workers or
36:17
like not very close Co workers like acquaintances.
36:20
I thought you say, oh, can you just put the box over there?
36:22
Oh, by the way, will you marry us?
36:24
You didn't even put up what you're emotion didn't do it.
36:26
I'll say operate something weird's going on here.
36:28
No wonder she's a sex worker at night just for a bit of crack,
36:33
liberty and. Oh, she's too.
36:38
Shame on you. Why do I feel like you were?
36:43
Waiting to just just squeeze that in there that's.
36:48
What? She said.
36:49
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
36:58
But yeah, I. Totally forgot about the the
37:00
journalist where he gets slipped as well so I didn't expect you
37:04
to see that. Yeah, but yeah.
37:09
Yeah, I just, yeah. I just feel like he's he's the
37:13
character that I loved watching because because you've seen it.
37:18
Because do you know when you remember a series and you only
37:20
remember the good bits? Like if you recommend a show
37:24
when you forget about the weird boy crush things and stuff like
37:27
that it's you just remember the mix.
37:31
Yeah, so I wonder if he's. Got something to do with later
37:34
on? Yeah, but again.
37:38
Yeah, I wish. I wish I could remember, but
37:40
like, I feel like he's, he's going to like he's going to kind
37:45
of thread all these things together.
37:47
I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:51
Good. But I think I think.
37:53
There is something. To him, the way you think, oh,
37:55
he's going to be the because he's also like being a
37:57
journalist. He feels naturally placed in the
38:00
story to do that. Follow through of the thread.
38:06
Yeah, yeah, he's going to like. He's going to, like, tangle up
38:09
everyone. Yeah.
38:11
And. Tangle up.
38:11
With the police detectives a few more times and yeah, yeah,
38:17
desperate for a story. So he can pay back.
38:20
He's did he, he brought a wolf or something?
38:24
Did he ran someone over? You put them in hospital and
38:27
he's got to pay the bill? Yeah, I think so.
38:31
Sort of something that so I think that's.
38:32
Why he's so desperately get the the biggest scoop and this
38:36
little slug has a big story at the minute with all the set what
38:39
everyone's talking about. So he's he's kind of like
38:42
hanging around the hospital being like, oh, they look like
38:46
they've got a back wound up for interview them kind of thing.
38:49
But he's a horrible person. Just got into some barely
38:53
conscious man's room and been like, oh, so he'll hit you.
38:56
What happened? Tell me about this traumatic
39:00
event. You've experienced really
39:02
recently, Yeah, in DL, please. DL.
39:07
And then I'm going to go talk to a woman about her traumatic
39:10
experience and look up her skirt under the table.
39:14
Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah.
39:17
And also. In as we were, we were
39:20
mentioning for just before we started about.
39:25
Halfway through the 1st. Episode he he's, he's in that
39:30
Internet cafs and he's, he barges, barges some kids out the
39:35
way and does his Internet business and then gives them
39:39
their little window back. And the, the kids are just
39:42
checking out hardcore porn in an Internet Cafe and they're, they
39:46
look like they're about 10 years old.
39:48
And he doesn't care. He's like, here's your here's
39:52
your porn back. I've done Googling back.
39:57
About my killers. Just there's your porn.
39:59
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just like, you know,
40:05
societies is poorly in it. So yeah, yeah, even the kids.
40:13
But to be fair. I, I think it's, I know it's a
40:17
common view of Chris is bad, Chris is.
40:19
Looked at porn in many an Internet cafe?
40:23
Well, and it's done. Him no harm.
40:27
I'm a perfectly well just. Person but no, it's like a it's
40:32
like a common commentary on people's reliance on technology
40:36
and lowering morals. Let's see.
40:38
But it kind of heist to today I would say yeah, there's exactly.
40:45
Same now I think. There's something there.
40:48
And I think this, this is what makes it feel really current for
40:51
me is that tug of net technology as a connect, both a connector
40:56
and something that isolates you from like your collective
41:01
conscious conscience and consciousness.
41:05
So it's like in this, you see like technology being a point of
41:09
stress for people as well as something that is a, a point of
41:14
discovery. So it's, it's, and I think
41:17
there, it's not like AI see it as like a, it's like morally
41:21
ambiguous. It's like technology is a, a
41:23
present force. And what feels important is how
41:27
you access it, how you use it and, and how reliant are you on
41:32
it. There's like a kind of element
41:34
of balance because it's like, you could go so far the other
41:37
way that you're outsider to it. And that also comes with its own
41:41
challenges. And yeah, it it feels.
41:44
Like sort of like, you know, like desires and fears of just
41:53
society and then the sort of Internet age kind of serving as
42:00
almost like rocket fuel to kind of jump start the best and the
42:04
worst of all of that and kind of set kind of people way off
42:10
balance. If you don't mean you kind of
42:12
see that in like perfect blue and stuff like that.
42:15
Yes, I've not seen that yet at the time we're recording at.
42:21
The time we're recording, we. Might have added it to the
42:23
roster by then. Yes.
42:25
Yes. Maybe.
42:28
Yeah, episode 3. In Paranoia, Paranoia Agent that
42:35
that does feel quite like a perfect blue and Paprika.
42:41
It's like, I feel like there's there's a lot of plot in episode
42:45
3. There's almost like too much
42:47
plot, but it's good. But I think it's very much like,
42:51
OK, let's crack on and let's get some plot down.
42:55
Yeah. And whereas like seems to kick
42:57
up a bit, doesn't it? Yeah, like episode.
43:00
Two, it's like episode 2 is really kind of if they.
43:05
Stretched that out any. Longer it, it would just be
43:08
filler because it's good, but that that kind of suits its
43:11
runtime, if you know what I mean.
43:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just thinking.
43:17
I see. Sometimes I don't think I'm
43:19
spot. I have to watch Satoshi code
43:21
stuff because it's like when I'm watching it.
43:24
I came to get it as an idea. But when you ask us to use
43:28
examples and discuss why I think that, I'm like.
43:34
Just goes over my head sometimes.
43:37
I also think that's OK. Though, Because I think it's
43:40
like so we can sit here and talk about the themes and get really
43:43
thinky about it, But I think it's also it's it's really
43:48
heavily reliant on emotional feel and like these kind of like
43:52
real gut punching pieces, like the whole like like, you know,
43:55
the over stimulating opening sequence.
43:59
I don't think that's necessarily decide designed to make you
44:03
analyse. Anything.
44:04
It's. Designed to make you like feel
44:07
the beginning of the episode. And I think it's.
44:11
OK, to to sit back and just go. Do you know what?
44:13
I don't have to get this and I can just like get like, I'll
44:19
feel my way through it rather than be like, I think I know
44:22
what's going on here. That's because I had no idea
44:24
what went on. It's.
44:26
Like I have no idea. What's happening half the time I
44:31
need, but I can tell that the emotion of The thing is there.
44:35
What? Yeah, guys make of.
44:37
The at the, at the end of every episode you get the yeah, an old
44:44
guy, is he like standing on the moon or something?
44:48
And he's just talking some cryptic stuff that's kind of
44:53
about the next episode. It's like the it's like the
44:58
opposite of like the log lady intro is in like Twin Peaks or
45:02
something. But I was like, I definitely
45:06
didn't like write any of that down.
45:08
And I was just like, am I supposed, is this, am I supposed
45:11
to, like, decipher what this guy's on about?
45:14
But I don't know. It's like, really cryptic.
45:18
Yeah, there's something about. So there's there's for me,
45:21
there's there are two places where it makes my head go.
45:25
The first is like the idea of the moon being this like symbol
45:29
of progress because you have the whole space race and the.
45:34
Kind of claiming. Of of the moon being a backdrop
45:37
to. I suppose like like.
45:42
A capitalist boom in terms of culture, like the moment that
45:46
man first land on the moon. There's also part of me that
45:50
just thinks this is like some weird anime stuff because you
45:54
get in like series like Helsing, you have the Baron Harkonnen is
45:59
like the voice of the see. And it's the same.
46:01
If you like read the manga for some of these like series you
46:05
have at the end of the book, you'll have like a conversation
46:08
with the manga car and the OR the writer or some of the
46:13
artists. But they'll often, like, insert
46:15
these, like, odd characters as representations of themselves
46:19
to, like, give you like a kind of breakdown of what's happening
46:22
or what's to come. And I, I, there's part of me
46:26
that thinks like, this is just like that kind of like practice
46:31
or like convention, like manga convention is that this is like
46:36
a little bit of a breakdown from the author being represented as
46:41
this, like, old man on the moon. Yeah.
46:43
And on the moon. So I I didn't get any of that
46:50
only because. And I think we talked.
46:54
About that, on the Detective Corner 1, I don't watch.
46:58
It's never in the end. And if I watch them?
47:01
I didn't because. I don't want to know.
47:04
What happens in the next episode?
47:05
I want to take our comments. It's.
47:08
I remember missing out on so many.
47:12
At the end of an. Episode they have.
47:14
Jokes. Don't watch any of the ending
47:17
for Vending Machine because they've got jokes at the end of
47:21
Vending Machine and you just missed all the jokes.
47:24
I think so, yeah. Actually, I'm actually like
47:27
little skits. I know.
47:30
See, I won't. See, I've only seen that after
47:33
scene credits in like Marvel films because people have told
47:35
us and sat us down and said no, don't leave now or have you
47:42
choose them afterwards. So yeah, I didn't.
47:47
I didn't. It's the.
47:51
Actual content is so cryptic that there might be 10%, which
47:58
is like, oh, that is something that's going to happen in the
48:02
next episode. And then the rest is like, I
48:05
yeah, it's all like the cow jumped over the moon and sat in
48:10
the shadows. Whatever.
48:13
It's like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I'm supposed to
48:15
take this with me. Yeah, sometimes.
48:18
Where I'm. Like, is this something that
48:21
might be lost in translation? Like is this something that like
48:24
like a well known touch point, like the cat, like the cat and
48:27
the fiddle or whatever it is. Yeah.
48:29
Cat with the fiddle, cat with the fiddle.
48:31
You know, the cat, the fiddle nursery rhyme had a little
48:34
piddle. And like, like most people I
48:40
would say in England would go, oh, the cat and the fiddle with
48:42
the cow that jumped over the moon.
48:44
Like, are we missing part of like the, do you know what I
48:47
mean? Like, is it like a lost in
48:49
translation moment or is it genuinely cryptic?
48:52
I also would Paranoia Agent is so dense.
48:55
I do think that it probably is one that you would watch and
49:00
then you could watch again and go, I can't believe I missed
49:03
that. Yeah, I can't.
49:05
Believe I'm like. Like you could actually it would
49:07
hold up to like like a more than one viewing.
49:10
Like just from this conversation alone, I've gone.
49:13
I think I need to watch the first episode again.
49:17
Yeah, I think it will. Be worth a watch after you watch
49:22
the after the 12th episode and then go back after a bit of time
49:25
and be like I get like the comments where they it tells the
49:30
answer from the intro which I. Don't know if that's.
49:34
Good or bad, I like. I'll barely, barely watch things
49:39
twice though, because I don't have time.
49:43
Namely, yeah, yeah. I think it's if you really enjoy
49:48
a series it having that watchability, especially when
49:51
it's only like 13 episodes long is.
49:55
A mark. Of I think something that is
49:57
like a proper classic because it's like it's like you can
50:00
watch the Godfather over and over again.
50:02
At least I can never seen. It OK?
50:09
Is there an anime version? Yes, Tokyo Godfather's.
50:12
I already made you watch it. It's fun.
50:17
The homeless in The Godfather. Yeah, I saw his both give us
50:25
dirty looks by the way, when I said.
50:29
What? What?
50:33
That's fine. We set you down.
50:38
Be fine. I love it when people.
50:39
Show us things are the love, yeah?
50:42
But I know. Dad, you can't remember what
50:45
happens after the three episodes and are there any questions that
50:50
you want to be answered that you probably don't remember if the
50:55
have been answered? Yeah, I want to.
51:02
See more of these people that are writing big diagrams and
51:09
chalked and whether or not that's just kind of flavour or
51:14
whether that has a more meaningful bolt onto like the
51:24
the little slugger stuff. That's yeah, honestly, yeah,
51:27
can't remember, but I, I want to feel like it's going that I
51:31
don't think we'll get loads even if if we get any of it, but I
51:34
want more of that. That's like.
51:38
Yeah, I feel like that's. Part of the mystery, I think.
51:43
So I I. Remember when we did another
51:46
Satoshi Corn film and there was a court set by him where he said
51:50
what I wouldn't like to do direct and read like actual live
51:55
action films because he kind of control the background.
51:58
But he said when I do one of my films or series or whatever,
52:01
everything that's on the screen is something that I want you to
52:05
see. So there's got to be a reason
52:06
for it because it's got enough of a plot point where the show
52:10
like glimpses from write and stuff on the floor, like he does
52:14
a bird and a couple of numbers. And so it's got to be answered.
52:17
If not, why? Why not?
52:21
He said. So why?
52:26
Right? I think the second time.
52:28
We see a big kind of chalk diagram.
52:32
It's the first time someone's write in hospital room number
52:38
where there's the designer ends up in and the second time we see
52:44
a load of chalk kind of diagram, can't quite remember, but I
52:48
think they finish it off by writing the number one and I
52:54
think that's reference. To.
52:57
What the the populist kid at school is like always.
53:01
Like I'm number one, but I might be wrong on that, but I feel
53:04
like. So they're just sort of, I don't
53:09
know, like commenting or predicting.
53:13
Strange things in the. Plot that are not all the same
53:17
so yeah, like cryptic clues, yeah because right in I think
53:23
it's just a #1 because that's totally different from writing
53:27
like a room number or something so yeah, I want to.
53:31
That's what makes me think I want to see more of this stuff
53:35
and I wish I could Redempt. There's also like are they?
53:39
Communicating with little Slugger is that are they like,
53:43
are they the ones watching and like being like that way slug
53:46
slug over there Yeah yeah, it's a it's proper mystery stuff.
53:56
How about is that you? Guys, what, what are, what do
54:00
you want to kind of see? How let's you know?
54:03
Where do you want to see it go? Right.
54:07
So me personally, I want to know what the deal is with the with
54:10
the two policemen because one of them is good cop, one of them is
54:13
bad cop. I want to know what happens with
54:15
the slimy journalist if he gets his redemption arc.
54:18
I want to know. But I'm not that bothered about
54:20
the kid because he's a bit full of himself and I don't like
54:22
people like that. I want to know what happens with
54:25
the designer because she's a bit, I don't know she's, I don't
54:30
think she's mental, but she is talking to a pushy doll.
54:36
And he's gone. Psychotic, yeah.
54:39
And then? Weirdly, least of all.
54:42
But I do want to find it out who's little slugger that that's
54:45
weird. The I know it's the overall
54:47
story what brings them all together, but I'm not as
54:50
interested in them than this individuals.
54:54
Yeah, I'm more interested. In why people are getting
54:58
slugged so it's like that that's.
55:01
For me the question is. Because these people seem very
55:03
disparate in a lot of ways. I think the journalist really is
55:06
the only one who has a connection to someone because
55:08
he's talked to other victims. Or does talk to other?
55:15
Victims. But it's like what?
55:17
What is connected? You know, what connects a sex
55:20
worker and a bully, Like a high school bully, There's like the
55:25
poor thing. They're hard.
55:29
And obviously. The the sort of sex work there
55:34
by by day. She's like the tutor of the
55:39
flights hotshot student. Yeah.
55:43
So yeah yeah. And I can't.
55:45
Work out if it's like a like a 5° of separation situation where
55:50
it's just pure coincidence that these people are connected
55:54
whereas there's actually some sort of greater thread that
55:57
pulls them together. So I think that's that's the
56:00
thing that I'm watching for is like actually what is did and
56:03
and also do they ever come together in a kind of collective
56:06
sense? Because often in Satoshi, like
56:12
in his films, in both Paprika and in Tokyo Godfathers, which
56:17
we've reviewed there, there is a coming together of the cast
56:22
towards the end. Like they have a moment of like
56:24
genuine connection and and like meaningful character development
56:30
together. And I'm kind of curious about is
56:33
that going to happen here as well?
56:36
And like, if so, how do they like, who is it?
56:38
Who's going to have that kind of like meaningful character
56:41
development and how will it play out?
56:44
How will they kind of be drawn together by this?
56:47
Yeah, because. Can't can't remember if we just
56:51
talked about this before we record started recording, but at
56:56
the moment we're only seeing all these characters together join
57:00
the end credits when they're all asleep on that like grassy hill.
57:05
And then the mascot is in the middle and the mascot's way
57:09
bigger than it normally is and it's the only one that's awake.
57:12
I think that's only time we're we're seeing all these
57:15
characters that are not think at the moment.
57:18
They're not necessarily in the same environments and stuff.
57:22
Yeah, you see like one or. Two of like, you see that like
57:25
maybe two of them will meet and then part ways, but you can
57:29
really see them like together for like any prolonged period of
57:34
time, yeah. Yeah, definitely.
57:41
There's lots of loads of questions.
57:42
Answered, which I think you'll probably need to watch through
57:47
to answer all. Answer the mod.
57:50
I think probably. So are you?
57:54
Are you? Guys going to carry on and
57:57
finish. I am, yeah, for sure.
58:00
I think you've got you. I think this.
58:02
Is Satoshi's only series, isn't it, besides these other films?
58:07
And it's one of them things where you kind of have to pay
58:10
attention, so. And I've started.
58:12
Now. So I've got to finish it, baby.
58:16
Yeah, yeah. I think it'll.
58:18
Bug me if I don't. Yeah, yeah.
58:22
Are you going to? Watch it.
58:24
Yeah, I think I'm. Going to go back to episode 1
58:28
and go again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm yeah, I
58:34
feel like, yeah, it's really nice feeling.
58:41
I've been some of it come back to me and be like familiar, but
58:46
only it's only coming back through a rewatch.
58:49
Like it's it's bringing back stuff that's probably buried in
58:53
my buried in my brain somewhere. But yeah, yeah.
58:57
And here's the question. You have to.
58:58
Ask yourself, which feels very fitting for the series, is are
59:02
you remembering it or are you learning it for the first time
59:04
and it just feels familiar? Yeah.
59:08
How can you tell what is? Real.
59:12
Yeah. Are our brains full of holes?
59:14
Yeah. Like spice cheese.
59:21
Thanks darling, please. I think that's.
59:24
All the questions I've got. Is there anything else you want
59:27
to add to our agent? Anything.
59:31
Reservations or any questions we're we're.
59:34
Starting to get, and I can't tell if this is just spooky
59:39
flavour or going to mean something more, but we're
59:42
starting to get more crows around squawking at people.
59:49
Yeah, but I don't like them shorthand.
59:53
So like. Foreboding.
59:56
Yeah. Yeah.
59:59
So crows normally bring. Isn't isn't a death?
1:00:04
Think so. Or a slugger.
1:00:08
Or a slug. Crows, famously.
1:00:12
Best friends with bats? And rollerblades.
1:00:19
I was. Really slow at getting.
1:00:20
That. I was like, oh.
1:00:26
I was like, yes, yeah, there we go.
1:00:29
See what I did there 2. Flying things.
1:00:31
They're both black. They just, you know, appear at
1:00:33
Halloween. This is Christmas, December.
1:00:39
You're right. Now I just really enjoyed it.
1:00:46
I think I think this also is one that even though it would have
1:00:50
at the time have been aired probably late at night week by.
1:00:55
Week. This, I think, is a series that
1:00:57
is probably best to be benched in one go, Yeah, because if I
1:01:02
had to split it up week by week, I would be completely lost.
1:01:07
Split without the Internet as. Well, and yeah, wouldn't be
1:01:12
able. To Google what does this.
1:01:13
Mean. Yeah, for his best.
1:01:18
Friends I don't even know now. But yeah, I think that's also
1:01:28
that's also on our age. You want to see it?
1:01:35
Well. Because it's December and we're
1:01:36
pre recording pretty early, we have no idea what's happening on
1:01:40
our channel at the minute, but the Do you have anything coming
1:01:45
up? Dan I.
1:01:50
At time of recording, I'm getting ready to celebrate my
1:01:56
10th anniversary of my like film club that I run.
1:01:59
So I attempt to show a mixture of all different kinds of
1:02:05
animations. So tends to be a lot of anime
1:02:08
and then stop motion stuff as well.
1:02:11
So yeah, I'll be, as this comes out in December, I'll be kind of
1:02:18
crawling back into. My.
1:02:19
Cave and sort of closing the door on the air but but then
1:02:26
early next year I'm working on some more like classic anime
1:02:32
screenings which. Yeah, so.
1:02:37
If people don't know, I'm based in Nottingham and so yeah, I
1:02:41
might be doing something around that area.
1:02:43
So it, it feels quite exciting to say that I can't talk about
1:02:48
it at the moment. Super, just because it's not
1:02:51
there. Yeah, it's not been announced
1:02:53
yet, but where can people? Keep an eye out for fun classic
1:02:59
anime in knots So. Yeah, my film club is called
1:03:05
Porlock Press and that's it's PORLOCK.
1:03:10
It's just named after the village of Porlock, which I've
1:03:13
never been to so, but yeah, Porlock Press, you can find that
1:03:17
on Instagram and Facebook. Instagram, probably the best
1:03:21
place. And I'll, yeah, hopefully
1:03:26
towards probably around about the time that this comes out in
1:03:28
December, there'll probably be some stuff out in the world
1:03:32
about an event in January and that'll be happening around the
1:03:37
Midlands. So kind of Darby Nottingham.
1:03:41
So yeah, nice. Excellent.
1:03:44
If you're in the area and you love Adame Paul, Lock Press is
1:03:48
the Instagram Facebook account to follow.
1:03:53
Yeah, that I. Just, you know, just got really
1:03:56
like really hammered at home because it is great.
1:03:57
And also the the other thing I love about your Instagram is you
1:04:00
also have these amazing posters that you publish for each event,
1:04:05
which are just yeah, that's. I just, that's one of my
1:04:09
favorite bits of putting on stuff.
1:04:12
I kind of, I've always kind of worked with really great like
1:04:17
artists and designers and it usually involves me coming up
1:04:21
with some like woolly ideas and then commissioning like some
1:04:26
tons of people to make something beautiful.
1:04:29
But yeah, it's, it's just something that I really like
1:04:31
doing. And yeah, I've got a little
1:04:34
folder at home which is my like Pollock Press archive of all my
1:04:39
all my old posters. So yeah, they'll for this thing
1:04:44
in January, there'll be there'll be a collaboration between
1:04:47
Pollock Press and somebody else and then they'll all definitely
1:04:52
have a beautiful poster by somebody so easily go.
1:04:57
To the event, go have a look at the Instagram because it's
1:05:00
that's how I like vicariously get to enjoy Stan.
1:05:07
But yeah, thanks. So much for inviting young guys.
1:05:10
Yeah, I've, Yeah, it's it's got me really excited to kind of get
1:05:16
through the rest of paranoia. Paranoia Asian.
1:05:20
So yeah, yeah. Fantastic.
1:05:23
Thanks very much for coming. On Yeah and.
1:05:27
With. That we'll say bye and don't be
1:05:31
in anime. You top anime bye.