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#261 - Did Joe Rogan Just Expose His True Self? The Erika Kirk Attack Explained · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Did Joe Rogan cross the line and what he said about Erica Kirk when I heard this?
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  Because I started listening to the show on Friday that was released on Friday
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  with him and Mark Norman, a comedian out there.
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  And, you know, I didn't but I didn't listen all the way through.
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  And then come Saturday, I see clips that Joe Rogan started saying things in
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  that podcast about Erica Kirk that I felt it just feel weird, feel weird, felt weird.
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  It felt weird like it crossed the line it's
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  like i guess it's it just it made me
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  take a step back because joe rogan has been honestly my
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  hero he is kind of like the the one of the big people in my life that has kind
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  of pushed me down this road and made me want to get into doing a podcast doing
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  this type of stuff on the internet him and tim pool pretty much those two guys
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  are kind of like my idols or whatever and when i heard him say this about erica
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  kirk when i when i just saw the clips of it, it made me sick.
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  I put out a video, short video yesterday, and I just felt like sick of my stomach.
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  And I know right now, Erica Kirk is like the most polarizing person in America right now, in America.
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  And people are very divided over her. And it's primarily due to Candace Owens
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  and what she has been doing for the last six months since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
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  But feel free to put any comments where you stand on this, because I want to
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  have like an actual reasonable conversation about what is going on with Erica
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  Kirk and people's obsession with her.
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  And I know I've made a lot of videos. I primarily, I primarily made videos about
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  Candace Owens and her just every video talking about her doing this,
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  like this saga of episodes of bride of Charlie focusing on her and her whole
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  life, everything that she's done in her past.
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  And it was all just kind of kooky and the crazies saying stuff.
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  But now that Joe Rogan has stepped into it, it really almost had me just like,
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  What, why would you do this, Joe?
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  And I think it really, it has to go through like, either you die a hero or you
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  live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
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  And that's good. That goes for everyone. Don't meet your heroes because they'll always let you down.
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  That's why I think that Leo, Leonardo DiCaprio, another one of my heroes, whatever.
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  He's been a person that like, he stays out of the limelight in the sense that
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  he doesn't really divulge a lot of his personal feelings and what he thinks about a lot of things.
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  He's smart in that area. He doesn't go into politics. He stays off to the side.
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  He does his movies and he doesn't really just show too much of himself because it's like,
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  once you see it, you it's something's going to come out that doesn't look as
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  appealing to everybody, you know,
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  and that's kind of smart on Leo's side, but we're going to go through a couple
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  of clips of the times that Joe Rogan in his podcast that was released on Friday
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  when he brought Erica Kirk up.
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  We're going to go through every one of them and we're going to analyze every
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  one of them. And then I want to actually dig in and dive into this whole like...
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  Psychosis that is sweeping across the United States.
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  And the instigator, the originator, the person who is initiating all of this is Candace Owens.
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  What she is doing, it is dividing America.
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  She is the most dangerous person in America right now.
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  But she is, I don't even know if she's entertaining at this point.
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  For the longest time, I'd been thinking like she's entertaining.
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  Now it's like, I almost like just have to have her in the background as background noise.
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  I'm not even like, nothing that she says has any credibility at all.
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  When I listen to anything, she doesn't actually put forward anything,
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  but people are so dug in that the people on the side that are for Candace are
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  like, whatever she says is truth.
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  It doesn't matter. And the people that are opposed to Candace,
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  whatever she says is wrong. It doesn't matter.
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  It's like on both sides that people are so dug in. And there's been few people like this in history.
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  And I think of like a person like Donald Trump, I think of Tim Tebow,
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  people that are so polarizing, they're lightning rods and that they garner so
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  much attention because people love or hate them.
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  There's not really not any middle ground. And I think why Joe Rogan stepped
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  into this is because he sides with the love Candace.
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  Side. I don't even, I don't know. He's friends with Theo Vaughn.
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  He's friends with Tim Dillon.
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  These guys that are pushing forward the narrative that Candace Owens is right.
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  And we're going to get into, could she be right about this? I mean,
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  at this point, it's like, she would have to be right. Cause she's said everything.
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  Something has to be right. It's like, I don't even know what.
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  What I'm going into hypersonic mode. Okay. Well, let's just
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  dive into the first clip of when I'd even realize
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  this because i started watching the podcast on friday with joe
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  rogan right out of the gate they must have talked about
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  this that they were going to kind of kind of slowly like
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  drip out about discussing erica kirk
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  and charlie kirk because right out of the gates right
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  after the music stopped they were already jumping on
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  jokes about charlie kirk and i completely missed this
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  hey charlie kirk no don't shoot him no no don't say that no don't say that dog's
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  a nazi okay you can't not love the dog whatever i i i understand everybody loves
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  the dog so so but he says i didn't even hear that whenever i first listened to that he he said.
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  Charlie kirk don't shoot like i mean it's kind of like i don't even know i i
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  comedians are gonna say crazy stuff if it doesn't make you feel weird it's probably
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  not gonna be that funny i guess but So, I mean, you know, we can let that one slide.
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  And in this next clip, it sounds like that Joe Rogan, he's pretty,
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  pretty reasonable because he's a person that is a marksman. He's a hunter. He knows guns.
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  And he's going to discuss and go into the clip, the shot that happened with
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  Charlie Kirk, that it kind of doesn't make sense.
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  And Joe Rogan, he has a conspiratorial mindset like I do, like a lot of good American loving men do.
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  We have, we love conspiracies. is Candace Owens has just pulled that rug out
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  from under us. It's like she's made conspiracies not fun.
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  But if Candace hadn't stepped into this and messed up and murkied all the waters...
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  This could be a good conspiracy. I mean, this sounds so terrible. Let me say this.
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  I'm not like good as in it was morally good, but it's just like a real bonafide conspiracy.
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  And there still might be something going on. But just Candace has just sucked
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  all the, like, I hate even saying fun, but the fun of conspiracies because of
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  her just psychotic nature, it feels like.
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  I mean, the Kirk thing, I remember waking up and being like,
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  good God. The Kirk thing's weird.
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  The Kirk thing's weird because now there's video footage from behind. Is that right? Yeah.
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  I mean, the round that he was supposedly shot with was a 30-06, which is a big round.
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  That's a round that you kill a moose with. Uh-huh. And it doesn't even have an exit wound.
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  Right. It don't make no sense. It makes zero sense. Well, you hear about this Joe Kent.
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  Yeah. Yeah, they told him not to research or investigate.
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  Yes. So what's up with that? He said that they were told to stop their investigation.
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  Yeah. And that they were going to handle it. And he just resigned.
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  And meanwhile, have they handled it?
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  Like, we haven't seen that guy, the guy who loves furries, who supposedly killed Charlie Kirk. Tyler.
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  Robinson. Yeah. Yeah. We haven't seen him talk. No.
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  He hasn't said he did it. He hasn't said he didn't do it. There's no known,
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  like, independent video of him talking about it.
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  Yeah. So, like, there's really genuine stuff here that could be,
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  like, conspiracially happening in the making what went down.
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  My only, like, criticism of it is what Candace Owens has done.
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  Because she, like, she was the psyop to me.
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  Like, almost like she was planted here to murky everything.
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  That's what it felt like and it feels like. Because...
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  And the way she's going about, like, to bring in Erica Crick,
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  that is where it's like, it does not make sense at all.
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  And then there was footage of him, like, at a yogurt shop. Right.
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  Way across town, like, 20 minutes later. The whole thing is, like, super sus.
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  It's similar with the guy who shot Trump, whatever his name was. He had three names.
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  Oh, yeah, that kid. That kid was in a BlackRock commercial two years before.
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  He had no silverware. And look, I— His house was professionally scrubbed.
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  And no one can ask questions about that? We can't deep dive on that?
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  If you do, you're a conspiracy theorist.
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  I shot a presidential elect. Well, yeah, not only that, but isn't that a fucking conspiracy?
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  Like, that's a conspiracy. Right. He conspired to murder the president of the United States.
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  Yeah. It seems like he had help. Of course. Like, how the fuck did he get up onto that roof?
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  How did they not have people on that roof? They said the slope was too steep.
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  Yeah. Meanwhile, there were snipers on another roof that had a sharper angled
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  roof. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then he has no social media.
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  And he has no history. It's all kooky. Super suspect. Yeah.
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  We can't ask questions or else we're assholes. Well, not only that,
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  the kooky people online now think that that was staged. and that,
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  you know, Trump had that guy shoot his... Yeah, like, Joe Rogan,
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  he's definitely a man of logical and he's reasonable, so I completely get where
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  he's coming from and saying all this.
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  Like, that part of it, I can actually get on board with him bringing up.
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  This next clip is probably what got played the most, and it's going to be regarding
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  when he, like, isolates on Erica Kirk and what he talks about her.
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  And some of these things are kind of disgusting, but, like, I mean,
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  I think everybody knows what we're to take Joe at it when he's because he's a comedian.
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  He'll say the craziest things. It's like all comedians do. I mean,
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  and they do things that are funny.
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  Some people get, get offended by it. I hope you don't get offended by this,
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  but it's just, it's part of the part of it.
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  I guess this is where it kind of really rubbed me the wrong way. I've heard Erica.
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  Kirk's got a dick. I've heard that one. Whoa. She seems thrilled right now. She's an odd duck.
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  She's a cook for sure. You ever seen the compilation of her making crazy eyes?
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  No video of her making demon eyes. And every time she makes the eyes, the music.
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  This is what, this is the clip, what I saw over the weekend on Twitter and what
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  people were putting out and what Joe was saying.
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  A lot of the stuff, I mean, Joe's podcast is three hours long.
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  And whenever it got brought up about Erica Kirk, anybody saying this type of
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  stuff, it really just like, I felt like I immediately lost so much,
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  much respect for Joe, what he said and what he brought up about this.
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  It feels weird to say that. I mean, I have a lot of things going on in my life
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  and my head and things I don't feel too good about.
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  Like this one really got to me and it sounds weird. You know,
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  it's like almost like your hero falls from this pedestal that you put him up on.
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  She's possessed. Well, she just gets intense. She's like the guy.
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  What's the gang gang guy? What's that guy?
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  Oh, my God. Look at that. She looks like a televangelist. Give me some volume.
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  She's talking to Barry Weiss. There you go.
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  Let's just pay attention to her eyes.
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  He said or believed things that they believed were controversial or even hateful
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  that he somehow had it coming.
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  What do you say to people who justified you're sick
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  he's a human being nobody exactly when barry is saying they basically said that
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  because charlie said or both and that's not what in a second he's going to play
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  like of the the with the sound and what people are just piling on that saying
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  that she's awkward we're all awkward everybody i mean probably some more than others.
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  But Erica, Erica Kirk, she was like, I don't know if a supermodel she won, like Miss Arizona.
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  So, I mean, but people in general, you know, when you start knowing more about
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  them in any situation, how many of you have went out today and you didn't feel
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  awkward or something when you're socializing with people? Maybe it's just me.
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  It might just be me. I don't know. Tell me if it is just me.
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  But I think a lot of people are just piling on because it's the jealous nature
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  and they're jumping on this. It's the grift. It is so the grift. All right.
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  And I didn't think that Joe would go out on this grift. Okay.
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  But yeah, she seems, she's having a good time. Well, she was on a reality show. Yes.
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  So she's a star fucker. A little bit. Maybe. She was also in some weird CIA
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  documents or CIA films. Is that right? Yeah. You ever seen those films? No, no.
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  See if you can find those films. There's some weird like internal films that
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  they made that she was a part of.
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  Erica kirk she's a regular person she i
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  mean she had ambition like anyone else she had
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  ambition she wanted to jump into the limelight anybody
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  that's and this is like 10 years 20 years ago that
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  she she was trying to get ahead of it candace like jumps on her and say says
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  because you have all these business she had ambition she has ambition but i
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  mean it doesn't like why is that such a bad thing and that people are just making
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  fun of her and like to me it's just like if we take an actual step back,
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  it's like she just lost her husband.
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  I know she stepped in as CEO and it's these same things that we go through,
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  but it's like you either got to be completely right and on point. And if you are, you are.
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  But at this point, it doesn't even matter if you're right, because at the end
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  of the day, in this actual where we're at now, it hasn't come out that she's
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  done all these things that people are accusing her of.
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  She looks like if a pageant lady, a pageant girl was grown
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  up 100% and she is that's what she is yeah well I mean she essentially was a
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  pageant lady oh really right wasn't she in like Miss USA or one of those things
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  oh I don't know maybe wasn't she Jamie most people don't know anything they
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  just see what Candace Owens has said about her people want right that attention
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  fame thing yeah yeah that is what they really want okay so Jamie will find it
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  she's got fireworks behind her
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  he starts it off with Erica Kirk I've heard she's got a dick I know he's just
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  joking or whatever I mean people said that Michelle Obama had a dick the full
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  video is out there I watched it and it's very weird so it's the same video
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  so see if you play it it's about EMP attacks and power grids the whole rest
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  of this was not that clip none of it?
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  Well, a gig's a gig. I think if you're a struggling actor, you take any kind
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  of... Exactly. ...or whatever. I guarantee you that video's out there.
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  I mean, no one could have pulled it.
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  Well, there's the Jimmy Dore video there. Here it is. Here it is. Look at this.
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  This is the video... ...that we've presented to congressional officials.
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  One being cyber, two being hackers, three being physical threats,
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  fourth one is solar EMP, and the fifth one is man-made EMP.
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  So the concern that we have is that we put out this critical information...
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  This is for her doing a CIA video. ...they hear what we're saying,
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  but they don't want to take action.
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  Take action. Well, there are 18 critical infrastructures. It's weird,
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  but... Very weird. She's doing a CIA informational video. Weird.
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  An acting gig or is this something else? Perhaps. Or, you know,
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  but even so, you're doing an acting gig for the CIA.
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  Who calls you for that? Yeah. You ever get one of those calls?
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  No. No, I never get one of those calls. And my agent never hit me with that one.
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  It's odd. Well, there's a lot of people that think that she was his handler.
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  Oh. She was Charlie Kirk's handler.
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  But of course, there's a lot of people that think I have handlers.
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  Yeah. You know. Well, you got about nine Navy SEALs out there.
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  They're not handlers. They're my friends. They're not handlers. I know those guys. Okay.
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  Oh, but what if? What if? What if they are? I mean, we're just asking questions.
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  What if you got handlers, Joe?
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  What if you actually do got handlers? Tough dudes. You think they are?
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  They are tough dudes. They know some stuff. Well, there's a lot of kooks out
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  there, bro. That's true. I mean, you just had a shooter on 6th Street.
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  Yeah. Finally, a guy in Austin kills. So whatever you think about,
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  like, it's just, it's nonsense.
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  But I mean, I'm to the point where it could, I mean, if it is true,
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  but like we haven't got anywhere.
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  All the videos that if you've watched, if you stayed on top of listening to
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  Candace Owens and what she has said about Erica Kirk, if you want to get to
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  the truth of what's going on, if there was a conspiracy,
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  you would be completely misguided and lose track of reality if you stayed on
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  top of Candace Owens and what she has put forward.
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  She said there was Egyptian planes debunked. She said all these other things, they're debunked.
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  But she just quickly moves on. And I just saw the guy that she brought on,
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  Mitch Snow, Fort Huachuca, this guy who said he saw Erica Kirk there right before
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  Charlie was assassinated.
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  It's kind of like insinuated that they were meeting together with the government
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  officials so they could to plan that attack of getting everything right.
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  This would have had to have been the most massive.
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  Involved conspiracy ever. JFK assassination, eat your heart out.
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  There's nothing going on compared to this.
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  And that's why she pulled in the French government. She pulled in Israel government.
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  She pulls in our government and everybody in so many random people that are
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  on stage that made this happen.
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  Whether, I mean, I wouldn't say that just like, I believe that whatever his
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  name is, Josh Robinson or whatever, the Robinson guy who is the alleged suspect
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  who turned himself in, he would have to be completely like MKUltrad,
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  like been pumped full of drugs and that he's signing away his life.
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  He wants to go to prison for what?
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  For what? I mean, maybe there is more to what's going on, but it's just got
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  so murky and so like nothing.
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  We don't know what's in front of us. We don't, it's like so confusing.
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  It's just the whole Erica Kirk thing. I just, what my, where I go to is it feels
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  like that from the heavens,
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  demonic entities have just been poured
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  out and are coming to this earth and it's like it comes
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  out in its most full effect of seeing
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  Joe Rogan of him doing this of him jumping onto
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  this because I can understand Theo Vaughn I
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  can understand Tim Dillon and Candace Owens obviously but
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  Joe to throw his hat into this and it's not like I mean the asking questions
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  is okay but like if unless you have something really real otherwise he's just
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  making fun of charlie kirk's widow at the end of the day like this is ultra
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  demonic what's going on like extremely sick.
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  And it's like, I'm not trying to white knight for Erica Kirk.
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  I'm not trying to put on my cape and stand and defend, you know,
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  this damsel in distress. I don't care.
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  It's not that I don't care about that. I think we should stand up for it.
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  But just if you just take the evidence, the facts, what is happening in front
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  of us at face value, it's like there would have to be so much involved here
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  and you would have and you would be, wow, you got it right.
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  But what is actually on the surface what we see
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  in front of us it is not at all point to her it
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  does not and you're either you're just attacking her for no reason for being
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  awkward and being on camera and saying things and saying she has crazy eyes
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  anybody could do like a video of joe rogan or me or you and just make it slow
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  motion throw in some effects and make it kind of funny and just like make them seem like a psycho.
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  I just wonder how Erica Kirk is really like going through this,
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  how she is feeling going through this.
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  Like, is she, is she, is she, I mean, she could be like, I don't,
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  I almost say like, everyone's focusing on you.
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  I mean, I think she probably just feels like this is sad, but I mean,
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  it is kind of like complimentary.
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  I mean, like if, if Candace Owens is this obsessed with you,
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  which she is, she is fixated on Erica Kirk, just can't take her off of her mind.
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  But I do just see this as like, the only thing that makes sense to me is like
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  demonic activity has just been
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  unleashed into this world because who else would want to just destroy and.
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  Terrorize a widow and her children who've just lost their father and husband than Satan.
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  God is the one who stands up and defends the widow and defends the orphan,
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  you know, defends the fatherless.
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  So it's like, I'm not saying that, like, I'm not even saying that Erica Kirk
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  like, she's completely innocent.
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  I don't know where this is gonna go, where this is gonna completely land.
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  But at this point, if you are attacking her, you're not on the side of good.
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  You're on the side of evil.
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  At this point in time, it doesn't matter because what has come out about her,
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  what we know about her, just the optics of it, you're attacking a widow at this point.
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  If it comes out and she turns herself in and says, I was behind it all.
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  I'll say, yeah, I was wrong. I was completely wrong about that.
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  I did not see that one coming at all. But the evidence, the,
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  the, they're just looking at this.
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  If you're unbiased and you come to this and you just want to, what is truth?
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  What is staring you right in the eyes? You would have to be completely delusional
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  to buy in to what Candace Owens is doing. It's disgusting.
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  She cannot stop because at this point it is about making money.
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  It's about getting views and garnering attention.
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  That's that's bottom line. That's it. That's it.
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  There's something going on. There's something deeply going on in here because
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  that Candace's attention can't be taken away from her.
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  She cannot take her gaze from Erica Kirk.
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  And at the beginning of it, when it all started, she was like,
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  I care about the truth. I care about finding out what happened with my friend, Charlie.
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  She like almost like she gave grace or like she like I care what what Eric is going through.
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  That was all fake. That was so fake. And it just seemed like it seemed real.
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  But we saw how fake it was because the truth, the true side of her came out
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  when Erica Kirk said stop.
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  And then she just starts saying, I know she's lying. I can find all these lies
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  she's doing. It's like, what are you talking about?
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  Everything that you, if you have really been seeing what she's,
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  every video that Candace is making, there's nothing absolutely there at all.
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  It's demonic what she's doing.
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  She's not a demon. Obviously Candace Owens is a human being,
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  but she is being controlled by demonic activity in some form or fashion of doing this.
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  If she would like pull back and just be more reasonable and actually come,
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  but the people that are pushing her is her audience.
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  Her audience does not want her to stop.
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  It's because we all love to hate someone because it makes us feel a little bit
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  better about ourself, I guess. And that's what people want to do with Erica Kirk.
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  They want to hate her so they don't have to look at themselves in the mirror or something.
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  They don't want to look at their own life. They don't want to actually come
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  to God and get right with God and deal with their own issues.
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  They just want to put all the issues on Erica Kirk.
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  She's the evil one. And so I'm scot-free.
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  I'm good. I'm good over here. and it just becomes, I'm going to eat my popcorn
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  and just make fun of Erica Kirk.
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  And Joe Rogan, to jump into this, there had been a little bit of a time that
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  it seemed like Joe was getting closer and closer to Christianity,
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  closer and closer to Christ.
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  He's been going to church. He loves Christians. He's opening himself up to that.
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  But I think it feels like he's taken a step back and it's coming more and more
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  out in his podcast, the things that he's saying.
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  You can see that he really doesn't believe in Jesus.
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  He says that like Christians, their lifestyle, you know, it works,
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  but he doesn't actually genuinely believe in Jesus.
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  I wouldn't even say that he would say like he believes in him.
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  He's not even being a nominal Christian and saying, I believe in Jesus,
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  you know, but I'm going to live however I want.
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  But he's taking steps back and he's not leaning in towards the light, you know?
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  And I think that it's hard to lean in towards the light because whenever you
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  get close to Jesus, then the spotlight comes out and things start getting exposed.
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  Things that you want to hold on to, whether it's money or fame or attention
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  or just, or whatever it is, whatever idol you have built up in your life,
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  that starts being pulled to the, to God, because God obviously knows.
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  The rich man comes to Jesus and Jesus says, go sell all you have,
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  because he knows that's the one thing that is holding you back from fully surrendering to me.
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  And then it's like, cause that's what Joe is doing. He's taking a step back
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  because I saw him saying like, he's, he's opened himself back up to drinking.
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  And I had to step into this a little bit because I'm a person that I gave up
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  drinking, but I'm a person that's gave up drinking a hundred times.
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  And then I fall back into it because it's something that I, I,
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  I, I give up and I somehow always end up back into it.
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  I'm not to the point where I, like, I struggle with, like I used to,
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  but I know that even just saying like with him opened himself up to that,
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  it almost is, you can see something,
• 23:57
  something going on underneath the surface that if he's back onto that,
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  you know, and I, I guess, I guess that is personal.
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  That's what, what people are going through, but it just, it's like almost a
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  compilation of all these things.
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  And it's just like the, him to come out and just attack Erica Kirk like this,
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  because it doesn't matter.
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  Like when I really sat back and watched the things that he said,
• 24:18
  like fully in their entirety, it doesn't seem as extreme as a little short clip.
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  Cause when you see that little short clip, it drives you nuts because it's like.
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  How could you say that Joe's podcast is three hours long?
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  And he's talking about a number of things. He's a comedian.
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  He's saying a lot of crazy stuff, but for it to just like, so he's,
• 24:35
  he's, he seems reasonable.
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  I have, I have a curse myself of I'm, I see both sides way too much.
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  And that's why I, I, I see, I see the good and the bad way too much.
• 24:45
  I defend both sides, you know, way too much, but him, him to like.
• 24:49
  To just open up like that and just say of what he said about her,
• 24:53
  that really pulled the mask back.
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  Like, like it just, it's not to say that he was, he was a Christian and he lost
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  his salvation. It's kind of like, it just shows you what you really are.
• 25:04
  It shows you where you really are because every Christian is not just,
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  you're not born a Christian.
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  You're in it. We can fall from grace, but if you're a Christian,
• 25:14
  you're that forever. And it shows that Joe Rogan has not crossed that line.
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  It demonstrates that. And I don't even think he is not even a person that,
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  like I said, that has said that he is a Christian at this point.
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  And I know we can all fall. I know we can all struggle, but I,
• 25:27
  like, I, like I've said with my, with my struggle with, with drinking,
• 25:31
  if I really went back down that road, it would be the, the idol in my life that
• 25:36
  I would set up and put up in and kind of almost like a barrier because Because
• 25:40
  it does, it does different things.
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  And I, I would say that I am happy that a lot of this generation now,
• 25:46
  and so many people have moved away from alcohol and it's not as prevalent.
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  And as it used to be, it wasn't as like the cool kids are doing like right now,
• 25:53
  the cool kids aren't drinking, you know, the younger kids aren't,
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  you know, people are getting away from that, you know, they're probably going
• 25:59
  to fill it with something else, but drinking itself, it does numb you.
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  It does numb you from kind of maybe where you should be. And maybe that's kind
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  of what, what's happening with Joe.
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  It's maybe a little barrier that's kind of been put in front of him that maybe
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  Satan has put in front of him.
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  I just, it just, to me, I might be sounding crazy right now.
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  It just, it was so shocking for what he said when he piled in on this.
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  If he wanted to be just about the objective nature of it being a conspiracy
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  and seeming like a conspiracy,
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  what has happened with, that was it, Tyler Robinson and Charlie Kirk and what
• 26:34
  happened that day and about like so many things that just conveniently happened,
• 26:38
  but to be like Candace Owens and to label it,
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  this is Erica Kirk's doing sounds disgusting.
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  And to say she has a dick, whatever, you know, I mean, that's being funny or whatever.
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  I don't know. That's being stupid and silly, but it's in this,
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  like this, she just lost her husband.
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  You're, and you're doing the stupid things that all your friends have done.
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  It's like, Joe, you're better than that.
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  Joe, I was like, like, I mean, you're, you're, you're, you're almost 60.
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  You're, you're, you're better than that. You're not like Tim Dillon.
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  You're not like Theo Vaughn, these young cats or whatever. You're better than that, man.
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  You don't need to be, to step to that low tier, like these up and coming comics or whatever.
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  I know these guys are up and coming comics, but it's like, that's like, where are you at, man?
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  Like, are you, can you kind of sit back and really analyze?
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  Cause you're not going to live forever. You're not going to be doing a podcast
• 27:28
  when you, when you die, we're eventually going to, you know, meet our maker.
• 27:33
  And it's like, if you want to like stoop to that level and I,
• 27:35
  I'm not, I don't want to be like, feel like I'm being judgy or at all. Cause I don't want that.
• 27:40
  But it's just like his reach, his microphone is the biggest freaking microphone on the planet.
• 27:47
  And I madly respect him for that. And I love Joe Rogan, but it's what he says.
• 27:52
  It like reverberates to everyone beyond like his wildest dreams,
• 27:57
  beyond what he even thinks.
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  He's not just talking to the person in front of him, what he says,
• 28:01
  like something like that. I know it's, it feels like I'm using that.
• 28:04
  I'm getting triggered by like Candace Owens is, you know, what he would, what she would say.
• 28:08
  He, we, I'm not getting triggered, but I do feel I, I almost have a passion
• 28:12
  in my stomach and my gut because I, I, I love Joe Rogan.
• 28:16
  I, I've watched him for years and for him to like do that, it just is,
• 28:21
  it's sad is at the bottom line. It was disappointing and it was sad for me.
• 28:25
  So I hope he steps away from this. I hope he didn't live long enough to see
• 28:30
  himself become the villain.
• 28:32
  He's done so many good things. He's the one who's pioneered everything for the
• 28:36
  podcasting for everyone.
• 28:37
  The biggest name out there, you could say other people like Adam Kroll or whatever,
• 28:41
  and different people, but Joe Rogan, he is the king of the mic.
• 28:44
  He is the king of podcasts.
• 28:46
  And he's the person that everybody looks up to. And it's like,
• 28:49
  don't be like these, all these other like people that are just being funny and
• 28:53
  just, man, be bigger than that.
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  Don't jump on Erica Kirk and make fun of her like everyone else is doing.
• 28:59
  Don't step into that sewer and be just tainted with all that crap that everyone else is doing.
• 29:05
  It's just, I don't know. I don't want to just keep ranting, but it was,
• 29:10
  it was, I had to like almost take a step back and really what I think of Joe
• 29:13
  Rogan. And I don't know about you because I, I hope he really reflects on this.
• 29:17
  I hope he does because I, he probably is just gonna move on to the next thing, but it was sad to me.
• 29:21
  All right. We'll leave it at that. Let me know what you think.
• 29:24
  Where are you staying on this whole Erica Kirk situation? This whole, it's Erica Kirk.
• 29:29
  Candace Owens is, you know, she's just this flaming, you know,
• 29:33
  Darth that's just going to fizzle out.
• 29:34
  You know, you can only one up yourself so many times before you become just
• 29:37
  a crazy caricature, a crazy lady.
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  And can, nobody can take you seriously ever.
• 29:43
  But erica kirk is the person she just lost her husband who lost charlie kirk
• 29:47
  who would have been become more than likely have been a u.s president eventually
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  and so i i i hope for a lot of people they don't go down that road the of buying
• 29:57
  into this you know it's been sad and disgusting all we'll leave it at that have a good day everyone.