Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / William A. Wertheim, Executive Vice President at Stony Brook Medicine
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- 0:46Hello everyone, and welcome to Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:48I'm Scott King. Thrilled today to be joined
- 0:50by a very special guest, William Wertheim, executive
- 0:53vice president over at Stony Brook Medicine. William,
- 0:56how are you doing today? Thanks so much
- 0:57for joining us on the podcast.
- 0:59Thank you so much for having me, Scott.
- 1:01You know, we have a lot of big,
- 1:02topics to get to in health care. But
- 1:04before I do that, I was wondering if
- 1:06if you could just please kinda introduce yourself
- 1:08and tell us a little about your background
- 1:10in in your system.
- 1:11Sure. Of course.
- 1:13I am a general internist by training.
- 1:15I do still see patients, actually.
- 1:18And I oversee Stony Brook Medicine, which is
- 1:20a four hospital system.
- 1:23It also has over 200 ambulatory sites around
- 1:26Suffolk County predominantly,
- 1:28which is the eastern most county in Long
- 1:31Island.
- 1:32And, we have five health science schools that
- 1:35also
- 1:36I oversee.
- 1:37We, are a $3,000,000,000
- 1:40enterprise and we employ about 14,000
- 1:43people.
- 1:45Suffolk County, which has a population of 1,500,000
- 1:49people is Suffolk County, is the county's only,
- 1:52we are the county's only academic medical center.
- 1:56We have a level one trauma center. We
- 1:58have a very advanced heart center, neurosciences
- 2:01center,
- 2:03cancer center.
- 2:05We do an enormous amount of
- 2:08specialized care as well as primary care and
- 2:11everything in between.
- 2:12And we really try to
- 2:14blend education and research into everything that we
- 2:18do so that our patients can get best
- 2:21possible care.
- 2:23Yeah. I appreciate you appreciate you sharing all
- 2:25that that information. It's great to hear about
- 2:27all the resources that Stony Brook has to
- 2:29offer. You know, the first the first topic
- 2:31I wanted to ask you about, William, is,
- 2:33you know, obviously, there's always so much going
- 2:35on in healthcare, but, you know, kind of
- 2:37still towards the beginning of a new year,
- 2:40things with emerging technology and and government regulations,
- 2:42it feels like there's a lot going on
- 2:44still right now. So what trends are you
- 2:46watching currently?
- 2:48Well, there is so much
- 2:50financial pressure on on health systems and hospitals
- 2:54and practices.
- 2:55A lot of it is related to what
- 2:57you alluded to about the,
- 3:00changes going on in Washington as well as
- 3:03things that are occurring on a state level.
- 3:06And at the same time,
- 3:10you know, we have a lot of work
- 3:12workforce shortages
- 3:13in the industry.
- 3:15There's a lot of competition for,
- 3:18health care workers,
- 3:20of all stripes. And so that puts a
- 3:22lot of pressure on hospitals. So I think
- 3:24some of what I'm watching is I'm watching
- 3:26how people respond to that, whether they are,
- 3:30trying to be more unified, more consolidated,
- 3:34more integrated
- 3:35in their business strategies and their clinical operations,
- 3:38more aligned from one branch to another.
- 3:42And that's certainly the approach that we are
- 3:44taking.
- 3:46And at the same time, the degree to
- 3:48which,
- 3:50they are trying to
- 3:53utilize technology
- 3:55to perhaps offset,
- 3:57you you know, offset some of their costs.
- 4:00And that could be everything from,
- 4:03you know, using,
- 4:06AI powered listening
- 4:08apps to,
- 4:10you know, to help people write notes, be
- 4:12they nurses or physicians,
- 4:15and so that they can be more efficient
- 4:18and see a couple more patients in a
- 4:20in a session or a shift,
- 4:22to financial
- 4:24software that really helps improve their revenue cycle.
- 4:28Those are really the kinds of things that
- 4:29I'm particularly paying close attention to.
- 4:33What do you think you're most focused on
- 4:36and excited about with your work with Storybook
- 4:39right now?
- 4:40Well, there's a few things I'm very excited
- 4:42about. You know, we,
- 4:45we view ourselves as the provider for all
- 4:47the communities in our county.
- 4:49And to me, that's extremely important,
- 4:53trying to make sure that we are meeting
- 4:55the county's needs when it comes to,
- 4:57kinds of care that's needed,
- 5:00whether it is primary care, health education,
- 5:04specialty care,
- 5:05and really embedding embedding that care in the
- 5:08communities.
- 5:09A great example of that is,
- 5:11last May, we opened up a freestanding emergency
- 5:14department
- 5:15in East Hampton, which is on the South
- 5:17Fork Of Long Island. The Hamptons are sort
- 5:19of a skinny little peninsula that,
- 5:23you know, that jut out on the East
- 5:24End Of Long Island like
- 5:27the the tail of the fish.
- 5:29And,
- 5:30it was really, really very important to have
- 5:33another emergency facility there because particularly in the
- 5:36summer months because it's a narrow strip, it
- 5:39can take two to three hours
- 5:41to get to,
- 5:42the nearest
- 5:43pre existing emergency facility in Stony Brook Southampton
- 5:48Hospital.
- 5:48So that's just sort of an example of
- 5:51meeting a community's need
- 5:53and really changing the changing the dynamic in
- 5:56the community.
- 5:57I've worked hard also to really try to
- 6:00align
- 6:01our organization.
- 6:04We've
- 6:05undertaken a fair amount of structural transformation,
- 6:08shared governance,
- 6:11a shared approach to business decision making and,
- 6:16a way to align both the clinical
- 6:18and the academic needs of our organization.
- 6:21And, you know, I think that's actually very
- 6:23important because
- 6:25when you are looking at managing a big
- 6:28organization,
- 6:29you really do need to make sure that
- 6:32division aligns with the reality.
- 6:34And, you know, we can't just say
- 6:37we want to be doing what's important for
- 6:39our communities and we want to be providing
- 6:42the best possible care unless you are
- 6:46ensuring that the structure and the way the
- 6:49the organization
- 6:51is is organized, really,
- 6:53mirrors that and supports that in everything that
- 6:55we do. So I'm really very proud of
- 6:58that.
- 7:00How do you make sure that that vision
- 7:01I think it's a one of the thing
- 7:03you said, maybe it's that vision aligns. How
- 7:04do you how do you do that? Is
- 7:05it just through regular communication with team members?
- 7:10Yeah. I mean, that's part of it. You
- 7:11you you can never communicate too much.
- 7:14And so we have sort of regular governance
- 7:16meetings, of course, with a lot of
- 7:18my leadership team and,
- 7:20you know, I try to bring that information
- 7:23out to people about some of the things
- 7:25that are going on as well as some
- 7:26of the pressures we're facing.
- 7:28You know, there are, you know, the same
- 7:30financial headwinds or government regulation headwinds that that
- 7:34all of us face in this industry.
- 7:36And I think it's important to be upfront
- 7:38about that and how we are managing me
- 7:40managing that with, you know, all of the
- 7:43people who work here. And it also means
- 7:45going out and talking to them and meeting
- 7:47them where they are,
- 7:49whether it's a lunch meeting or a town
- 7:51hall or just a site visit or walking
- 7:54around.
- 7:55You know, for example, we do this thing
- 7:57called red sneaker rounds in the hospital where,
- 8:00we go and we talk to staff members.
- 8:03We are wearing red sneakers. That's the Stony
- 8:05Brook color. That's why it's called red sneaker
- 8:07rounds.
- 8:08And, we talk to them about some of
- 8:10the problems that they're facing and,
- 8:13are they able to get the work done?
- 8:16And they see us helping them and answering
- 8:18any questions that they have and fixing any,
- 8:21you know, any problems or removing any barriers
- 8:23that they have.
- 8:25And making sure they know what their resources
- 8:27are. And so when people see you doing
- 8:29that,
- 8:31you know, being out there in the organization,
- 8:34you know, you,
- 8:36I think that really,
- 8:38underscores
- 8:39the fact that you're living the values that
- 8:42you are talking about. So it's a combination
- 8:45of communication
- 8:46and actually being there.
- 8:49You know, I think if you imagine
- 8:51our organization as a big, you know, a
- 8:53big dance floor,
- 8:55sometimes you have to be dancing and you
- 8:57have to be,
- 8:59showing people that you know what you know,
- 9:01how to dance. And sometimes you have to
- 9:03stand on the balcony and look at the
- 9:04pattern of what people are doing and make
- 9:07sure that you know what to what changes
- 9:10to make to make sure that, the party
- 9:12can continue.
- 9:14Yeah. I think it's another great point you
- 9:16made there in regards to leadership, William. It's
- 9:18just that, yeah, obviously, communication and in-depth communication
- 9:22and consistent communication can go a long way,
- 9:24but sometimes a leader just being visible, you
- 9:26know, just being being seen. It can mean
- 9:28a lot
- 9:29to to team members.
- 9:31And kind of staying on on leadership here,
- 9:33I was just curious,
- 9:35what advice would you give to evolving leaders
- 9:38in healthcare right now?
- 9:40Well,
- 9:41a couple of things. One, I would say,
- 9:43you know, keeping that mission at the the
- 9:44center. You know, it's not only about making
- 9:47sure that your organization thrives. It's about making
- 9:49sure that you yourself
- 9:51as a leader thrive. If you can keep
- 9:53focused in
- 9:55on what your core values are, what your
- 9:57mission is, why you're doing this,
- 10:00then it's a lot,
- 10:02it's a lot easier to withstand some of
- 10:04the the pressures and vicissitudes of the job.
- 10:07And I think that's really important. You know,
- 10:09what gives us at the end of the
- 10:10day satisfaction
- 10:12in the work that we do
- 10:13is knowing that we have been true to
- 10:16our values
- 10:17and we've worked to make the world a
- 10:19a little bit of a better place, at
- 10:21least our corner of it. So that's one
- 10:23thing. And then the second thing is,
- 10:26you know, you really I think it's really
- 10:27important to balance that,
- 10:31you know, that ability to
- 10:34look critically at what we're doing, what any
- 10:36organization is doing, and think about ways, you
- 10:39know, gathering your leadership team and and discussing
- 10:43ways to make it better,
- 10:44as well as talking to people
- 10:47who are doing the work every day.
- 10:51You know, it that I think is is
- 10:52really important.
- 10:53You know, the last thing I'll say, and
- 10:55I say this a lot because
- 10:57he was a very influential person in in
- 10:59my life, but I had a
- 11:01a mentor and professor who,
- 11:04told me that,
- 11:06with a whole class, you know, said this
- 11:08in in class, that the fundamental pathology of
- 11:11a bureaucracy is that the customer becomes the
- 11:13enemy.
- 11:15And anytime
- 11:16in health care or any business,
- 11:18you know, that you are thinking to yourself
- 11:21that the people that you're trying to serve
- 11:23are somehow in the opposite
- 11:26court as you and not on the same
- 11:28side, then you have to rethink what you're
- 11:30doing.
- 11:32And it's really actually helped me kind of
- 11:34overcome a lot of barriers, I think, in,
- 11:37in in managing a big organization.
- 11:40Yeah. I I think that's a a wonderful
- 11:42lesson on, you know, accountability there to to
- 11:44close on, William. Thank you so much for
- 11:46a great conversation and for joining the podcast.
- 11:49Look forward to working with you again
- 11:51soon. I look forward to it too. And
- 11:52again, thank you so much for having me
- 11:54on.
- 11:54Thank you.