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Jesse Solomon on Cancer, Early Detection, Survivor Advocacy, and Bravo! · Get Real with Jim Weiss

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Jim, how are you okay? We got a really
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  Speaker 1: cool one coming up here, right. He's like my little
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  Speaker 1: brother from another mother, Jesse Solomon. We learned what Jesse
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  Speaker 1: Solomon would do according to that famous little ditty from Summerhouse.
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  Speaker 1: But it was great to be able to talk to
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  Speaker 1: another cancer advocacy brother in that sense, because I think
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  Speaker 1: it's one of the quests I'm on since Audra's cancer,
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  Speaker 1: as everybody knows, and I talk about a lot, but
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  Speaker 1: we talked about really important topics like, you know, younger
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  Speaker 1: and younger people getting diagnosed, how do we combat it
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  Speaker 1: through early detection and prevention and blood testing and all
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  Speaker 1: the things, And we get into some fun topics as well.
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  Speaker 2: I love listening and I learned a lot about him
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  Speaker 2: and a lot about the platforms that he is a
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  Speaker 2: proponent of. And as someone who doesn't watch Summer House,
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  Speaker 2: it was nice to like get the behind the.
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  Speaker 1: Scenes and we have no preconceived notions, which is great.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about the Bravo world, so I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I look. It was part of my therapy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's no question that I used it during Audre's illness,
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  Speaker 1: along with music and other things. And plus, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I work in a very intense healthcare oriented you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking science and medicine and life and death, and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it's just good after a long day of that
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  Speaker 1: to just watch stuff that is not I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: do get into their own personal feelings and all that
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  Speaker 1: other stuff, but I mean it's mostly pretty fun. But
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  Speaker 1: I do think Summerhouse is a little different. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's about young people in New York City and it's
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  Speaker 1: an experience I knew right as a kid in New
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  Speaker 1: York City. We went out to the Hamptons or New
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  Speaker 1: Jersey and that was a real life kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: So the fact that he confirmed that they're really buds,
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  Speaker 1: which you can tell they are. I had asked him
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  Speaker 1: when we met in person initially to first think about
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  Speaker 1: doing the show, and he did say if he knew
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  Speaker 1: now what he knew, that he probably would pursue more
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  Speaker 1: modern approaches are less invasive than obviously chemo and radiation.
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  Speaker 1: But it's such a well known patient journey on testicular cancer, right,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like if you catch it early and this
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  Speaker 1: is something Nick knows right on our team who's been
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  Speaker 1: through it, and you got to follow that protocol. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: follow that protocol. You're gonna have a good outcome. I
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  Speaker 1: think the only thing is does it take a toll
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of these cancer treatments do on the
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  Speaker 1: rest of your body? Right, And he's young enough, I
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  Speaker 1: think to be able to navigate that, he's in his thirties.
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  Speaker 1: Early detection is the fastest route to prevention, as he said,
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's what's really exciting about this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: And he's using his platform to make a difference outside
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  Speaker 2: of Summerhouse too. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think we were somewhat reminds me of me a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, you know, I just kind of go out
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  Speaker 1: in New York or something. Yeah, No, I hope you do.
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  Speaker 1: I hope to get to know them a little more. Jesse, welcome.
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  Speaker 1: You're a two time cancer survivor at age thirty two.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing. What a run. I have a saying,
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  Speaker 1: everyone gets hit by the bouncing ball. Life will knock
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  Speaker 1: us down, But it's what we do with that ball
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  Speaker 1: that shows us what we're capable of. And you're doing
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  Speaker 1: a lot. First off, I assume Bravo might be a
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  Speaker 1: double edged store for you a little bit. It's obviously
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  Speaker 1: given you a platform to talk about your cancer journey
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  Speaker 1: and help others. What are the pros and cons? You know,
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  Speaker 1: most people privately deal with their cancer, but you didn't
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  Speaker 1: do that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that it has afforded me just
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  Speaker 3: incredible opportunities and access to be able to do the
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  Speaker 3: things that I've always wanted to do. I was never
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  Speaker 3: good at having a nine to five, so now I'm
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  Speaker 3: able to kind of make my own schedule do the
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  Speaker 3: things that I want to do. I worked at William
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  Speaker 3: Morris when I graduated from college in music and ended
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  Speaker 3: up working in finance later in my career. But it's
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  Speaker 3: good to kind of get back to a more creative
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  Speaker 3: side and do what I'm passionate about, which is the music.
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  Speaker 3: And I've just gotten to meet great people. I've gotten
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  Speaker 3: to be this advocate for the cancer community, which has
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  Speaker 3: been such a blessing. And I kind of figured, you know,
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  Speaker 3: at least sharing my story would help one person going
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  Speaker 3: through something similar. You know, from the messages I get,
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  Speaker 3: like people really connected with my story. Everybody knows somebody
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  Speaker 3: who's going through cancer, so that's really been like the
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  Speaker 3: most rewarding part. And then cons Yeah, there's there's a few,
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  Speaker 3: but I would say the pros far outweigh the cons.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably in most things. And yeah, given what you've
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  Speaker 1: gone through, maybe you can play like you got nothing
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  Speaker 1: to lose, right.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, Like, I'm just so grateful because I'm healthy. I
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  Speaker 3: just got my seven year check up and the doctor
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  Speaker 3: told me, don't come back. You said, go to your
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  Speaker 3: general practitioner and just get like these extra to do
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  Speaker 3: tumor markers. Yeah, I'm just like, when you're just happy
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  Speaker 3: to be alive, it's hard to get upset about the
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  Speaker 3: little things. And of course I'm human and like I
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  Speaker 3: have good days and bad and like being in the public,
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  Speaker 3: I can definitely add to the bad days, but it's
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  Speaker 3: mostly just like a blessing.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at the show. When I watch it, it feels
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  Speaker 1: like you're surrounded by good friends and people. And when
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  Speaker 1: I lost my wife to cancer, actually when she was
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  Speaker 1: going through it, I was fortunate I had built communities
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  Speaker 1: around me. Is that something you're real good at? You
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  Speaker 1: seem like, you know, you obviously are not somebody who
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  Speaker 1: just walks by people, And how has that helped you? Know?
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  Speaker 1: The crew that's around you.
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  Speaker 3: I've always been extremely outgoing and I've been lucky to
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of great friends in my life. I
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  Speaker 3: think going through the cancer stuff really shows you, like
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  Speaker 3: who is going to be there for you when you
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  Speaker 3: need them the most. The Summerhouse cast has been like
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  Speaker 3: an incredible new family, and I think just like going
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  Speaker 3: through filming that show together, like there's certain things that
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  Speaker 3: like only we will understand. Yeah, it's just like they've
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  Speaker 3: been so supportive in my health journey and now in
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  Speaker 3: my music journey, and I just feel like so blessed
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  Speaker 3: to have that family.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you came from an investor relations background,
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  Speaker 1: you said the finance pee, I did that for the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of my career. When and why did you switch gears?
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  Speaker 1: Like what was the thing that said I'm out of here?
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  Speaker 3: I was working in finance when they asked me to
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  Speaker 3: be on the show. Then I filmed the whole first
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  Speaker 3: season and I still had my job. In the fall,
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  Speaker 3: somebody found out that I had filmed the show and
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  Speaker 3: they weren't so excited about that. And then it was
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  Speaker 3: a while until like I started making real money from
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  Speaker 3: the show. Oh, so it was kind of like a
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  Speaker 3: big leap of faith. I think I was just not
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  Speaker 3: happy at the end of the day, Like I was happy,
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  Speaker 3: but more unfulfilled would be a better way to put it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't fulfill that like creative itch that I have,
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  Speaker 3: and that's kind of when like I got this opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, you know, even if I get fired,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of think this is like a good trajectory
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  Speaker 3: for the things that I like to do.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about the cancer journey.
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  Speaker 1: You talked about facing the fact that something was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Can you walk me through that timeline, wondering is this
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  Speaker 1: an issue and how did it all sort of happen. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I have been living in New York City for
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  Speaker 3: probably two years, and I didn't have my own doctor
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  Speaker 3: in New York. So I was like, let me just
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  Speaker 3: go get a physical and I go. I get like
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  Speaker 3: full blood tests, everything done. I felt maybe a twinge
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  Speaker 3: of pain in my testicle, but nuts sometimes just hurt.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot going on down there. There's ropes and
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  Speaker 3: pulleys and things, and you just I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it didn't feel like anything really out of the ordinary.
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  Speaker 3: But they gave me an ultrasound. I did, like you know,
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  Speaker 3: STD panel, I did everything. They called me back right
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  Speaker 3: away and I was like, oh my god, I must
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  Speaker 3: have chlamydia, Like my life is over. I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to like tell the girl that I've been seeing like
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  Speaker 3: I got chlamydia for the first time. Like this is terrible.
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  Speaker 3: And I go to back to the doctor's office and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Doc, give me the z pac and
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  Speaker 3: he goes, listen, it looks like you have testicular cancer.
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  Speaker 3: We're not going to be able to tell until we
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  Speaker 3: remove one of your testicles and then you'll likely need
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  Speaker 3: either chemo or radiation and that's it. And this was
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  Speaker 3: like the Thursday before Labor Day weekend, Like my typical
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  Speaker 3: doctor wasn't there. I was just like, am I getting
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  Speaker 3: punked right now? And then you know, I got a
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  Speaker 3: second opinion. A few days later, I was getting surgery.
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  Speaker 3: A week after that. I was kind of like postop
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  Speaker 3: but fine. And they had caught the cancer early enough
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  Speaker 3: that I didn't need chemo at the time, so they
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  Speaker 3: just kind of monitored it for a full year until
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  Speaker 3: it spread to the lymph nodes in my stomach, at
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  Speaker 3: which point I needed four rounds of chemo. Took three
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  Speaker 3: and a half four months. Was not the best time
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  Speaker 3: of my life, but I learned so much from it,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm so just grateful for the experience. Obviously, I
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  Speaker 3: wish I could have learned the lessons that I learned
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  Speaker 3: from having cancer without having it, and like the physical
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  Speaker 3: toll that it took on my bodies upsets me for
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  Speaker 3: like my long term health. But it's just was God's
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  Speaker 3: plan for and that's how my story was meant to go,
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  Speaker 3: and I think I'm a better person for it.
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  Speaker 1: My wife used to call cancer a gift wrapped in
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  Speaker 1: barbed wire. She really, I thought, you know, did a
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  Speaker 1: great job. She went on Patrick Dempsey's board and got
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  Speaker 1: involved in more holistic health. Did you do other things
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  Speaker 1: besides the chemo to make the quality of the experience
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  Speaker 1: better or you just grin bared it and got it out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. At the time, I wasn't really into all the
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  Speaker 3: health and wellness stuff that I'm into now. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I was twenty three, right at the best hospital in
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  Speaker 3: the world for this memorial Sloan Kettering, and they tell
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  Speaker 3: you your prognosis is good, you caught it early, if you
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  Speaker 3: do this treatment plan, you're extremely likely to survive, and
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  Speaker 3: you're kind of just like you know, I listened to
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  Speaker 3: the doctors. I don't know what I would have done
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  Speaker 3: if I went back in time, and like know what
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  Speaker 3: I know now about all the different treatment options that
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  Speaker 3: are not chemo. I mean, I'm glad it worked and
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  Speaker 3: I'm healthy, and who knows what could have happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the big message we talk about on
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  Speaker 1: Get Real Hero is about getting real and going to
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  Speaker 1: the doctor and see you know, you want to know
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  Speaker 1: what's happening. Any cancers, like you said, relatively treatable if
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  Speaker 1: you catch it earlier enough.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, totally. That's what I like to preach as well,
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  Speaker 3: that early detection is the key to prevention, so go
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  Speaker 3: get your checkups.
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  Speaker 1: Can't grow enough. Cancer needs a team of doctors in
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  Speaker 1: a community of family and friends who are some of
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  Speaker 1: the people you could not have gotten through this without.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really taught me about how important family is.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up lucky enough to have parents that are together,
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  Speaker 3: a brother that loves me, his wife was very supportive,
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  Speaker 3: and it was really just like when you can't stand
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  Speaker 3: up to get yourself food or take a pee, like
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  Speaker 3: your literal dad and brother like lift you up out
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  Speaker 3: of your chair. Family is like who's going to take
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  Speaker 3: care of you? When you're sick, and that's something that,
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  Speaker 3: like I couldn't fully comprehend until it happened to me.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm fortunate enough that I have good insurance and
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  Speaker 3: you know, went to a great hospital and all the
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  Speaker 3: doctors and nurses that took care of me and were
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  Speaker 3: so nice and sweet and positive. I had doctor Joel
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  Speaker 3: Scheinfeld at Slongcattering and doctor Dean Bajorn saved my life,
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  Speaker 3: so I owe them a lot. And I just have
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  Speaker 3: a supportive community of friends that you know, they could
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  Speaker 3: have been going out and they decided to hang in
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  Speaker 3: with me and keep me company. So I just feel
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  Speaker 3: very fortunate for my crew.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome, let's talk about mentoring. Now you're paying it forward
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  Speaker 1: Immerman's Angels Angels. Yeah, what's it like meeting others, especially
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  Speaker 1: men around your age you've had experiences with cancer? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Since I am public with my story, I very frequently
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  Speaker 3: get people who hit me up and say, Hey, this
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  Speaker 3: person I know just got diagnosed. Can you talk to them?
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  Speaker 3: The answer is always yes, And I even get messages
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  Speaker 3: from strangers, and I try to make sure that I
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  Speaker 3: get back to everyone and I'm here to answer questions
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  Speaker 3: because not everybody's open about their medical history and their
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  Speaker 3: story to tell. For me, it's like something that I'm
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  Speaker 3: not ashamed of, and I think that awareness is key.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm totally open to giving advice and I think
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  Speaker 3: it's really helpful. Like when I was first diagnosed, I
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  Speaker 3: watched like a YouTube series of this guy who documented
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  Speaker 3: his full journey and it really kind of like taught
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  Speaker 3: me a lot about what to expect. So I always
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  Speaker 3: love connecting with guys reassuring them that it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be okay. It's going to be a short, tough time
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  Speaker 3: to go through, but you're hopefully going to be better
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  Speaker 3: for it. On the other side, well, we both.
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  Speaker 1: Do a lot of work with answer nonprofits such as
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  Speaker 1: American Cancer Society. Can you tell us a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about your work with that organization and kind of why
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  Speaker 1: you do it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was able to bring the cast of Summerhouse
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  Speaker 3: to the Hope Lodge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. I've been there with my wife.
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  Speaker 1: You checked it out. I was so amazing to see
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  Speaker 1: you guys there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. I just feel fortunate that we're in
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  Speaker 3: a position to be able to just spend time with people,
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  Speaker 3: and like that in itself is a way to give back,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't take that for granted. It was great
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  Speaker 3: to get them involved, and you know, they were super
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  Speaker 3: moved and the cast is just like so warm and amazing.
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  Speaker 3: So I started the relationship with American Cancer Society back
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  Speaker 3: in my I think it was my first summer I've
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  Speaker 3: done like merch drops where I raise money and that
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  Speaker 3: goes towards American Cancer Society. I climbed up the Empire
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  Speaker 3: State Building to raise money for the American Cancer Society.
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  Speaker 1: The outside of the inside, I guess I would have
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  Speaker 1: known that, like King Kong kind.
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  Speaker 3: Of what now you run up the stage?
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  Speaker 1: I miss that. Yeah, I live near my apartment's near there.
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  Speaker 1: I would have seen that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, they do it every year. It's like people
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  Speaker 3: compete running up the Empire State Building for time. So
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  Speaker 3: that was good and then I was able to speak
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  Speaker 3: there recently in DC. But yeah, I just try to
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  Speaker 3: do as much as I can to just stay involved,
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  Speaker 3: spread awareness, use my platform to get the word out.
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  Speaker 3: I've been working with a camp in Long Island called
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  Speaker 3: Sunrise Day Camp, and that's all kids who either have
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  Speaker 3: cancer or their siblings have cancer, because oftentimes the siblings
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  Speaker 3: are kind of like the forgotten ones, and the kid
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  Speaker 3: with cancer is you know, kind of like taking up
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  Speaker 3: all the parents' attention, and that's like a completely free camp.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, wherever I can kind of fit in, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just trying to make an impact.
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  Speaker 1: So prevention, we talked about it. I like to say
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  Speaker 1: prevent the event, but it starts with being honest with
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  Speaker 1: yourself and everyone. There's a lot of chatter about men
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  Speaker 1: avoiding converse stations about their health for your generation, is
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  Speaker 1: that true? Maybe there's more to be done here about Again,
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  Speaker 1: the early detection piece is probably the thing if you
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  Speaker 1: can make an impact that can make that way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say men should just make sure they're
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  Speaker 3: doing their self exams every month, and if you feel
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  Speaker 3: something that has changed, that's when you should go see
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  Speaker 3: your doctor. Go get your physical every year, get your
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  Speaker 3: blood work done. I think my generation is less of
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  Speaker 3: manly men, but still there's a lot of pride. People
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  Speaker 3: just aren't as open to talking about their private parts
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  Speaker 3: and stuff. So the people are getting diagnosed with cancer
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  Speaker 3: at younger and younger ages. Yeah, and I think the
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  Speaker 3: guidelines of when you're supposed to get certain tests are
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  Speaker 3: kind of outdated and people need to just make sure
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  Speaker 3: they're checking themselves and going to see their doctors. And
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  Speaker 3: oftentimes if you feel some thing, it's like things have
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  Speaker 3: progressed to stage three or four. So you just need
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  Speaker 3: to be consistently going to get your checkups, like we've said,
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  Speaker 3: and then just like moving, eating clean foods. Like there's
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  Speaker 3: ways to really just like be a healthy person. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, sauna, there's different ways where you can there's fasting,
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  Speaker 3: all different types of things you can do to be
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  Speaker 3: a healthy person.
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  Speaker 1: We had Paul Turik on he's the leading men's sexual
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  Speaker 1: reproductive health specialist. How is sperm health like kind of
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  Speaker 1: a biomarker for the overall health? Have you looked into that?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think about that different since you had testicular cancer?
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  Speaker 1: The reason I even brought it up was there was
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  Speaker 1: that whole Kyle sperm count episode And yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So before I did chemo, I did sperm banking, which
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  Speaker 3: was a wow experience. Yeah, the doctors will make you
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  Speaker 3: even if you don't plan on having children, they'll be like,
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  Speaker 3: if you change your mind, you need to have sperm banked.
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  Speaker 3: I for whatever reason, you just like never tested my sperm.
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  Speaker 3: Since I think the general guidance is like it's better
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  Speaker 3: if you can have a baby naturally and don't need
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  Speaker 3: to use like your bank sperm. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I was pretty healthy before I was going
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: into chemo, and it's like younger sperm. So I'll have
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: to do my research or figure out which sperm I'm
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: gonna use when it's time.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: To have a baby, or we do a competition. I
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: figured you guys, would you know, have account competition?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'll test both.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see who's got the most. Kyle sounded like
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: he had a lot, which is great. I met them
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and can they're real sweethearts. Kyle and Amanda look good people,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: the best.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: My parents got to meet them at my concert on Tuesday,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: and like they were just such honeies.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: They really are so cool. Yeah, let's go back a
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: little bit to the thing, and we've covered a lot
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: on cancer. And then I asked about your sperm, which
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone's asked you about that lately.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. You had a music studies background.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Were you in a band in high school or college?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: So I sang every year of high school. I took
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: voice lessons. Senior year I was in like two singing
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: groups and had two voice teachers. I went to public
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: high school, but it was like a very competitive, intense
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: public high school with like good music programs. And then
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I was able to get into the University of Miami Frost.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: School of Music for vocal jazz performance. Yeah, I was
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: a music major all four years. I ended up studying
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: music business as well, and I still sang every day
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: of college. I was in this group called the Extensions,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: where I sang bass. It was more of an a
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: capella group. I sang the national anthem at a baseball game.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I had lots of really cool experiences in college singing,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: and then kind of decided I wanted more control over
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: my destiny, and I figured, why not work in the
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: business side of music, because I didn't want to be
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: like singing in jazz bars and not making any money.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I don't regret that decision at all. Like I learned
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: so so much, and I have like such a broad
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: array of business experience now, which has really like helped
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: me in my entrepreneurial career. But I'm really happy to
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: get back to performing. Like I was so happy on
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: the stage the other night. It just like felt good
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: and comfortable, and there's things that I wish I did better,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: but like it was my first show. The vibe in
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: that room was ten out of ten. We sold it out.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: I just had been practicing so much honestly that like
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: my voice was tired and it was like ten thirty
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I think when I ended up singing, and like after
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: the second song, I was just like, my voice is
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: kind of shot.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: When's your next gig?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about a holiday gig with someone, but it
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: looks like I'm definitely going to be doing more shows
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: in the spring of twenty twenty six all over the place.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So some fun questions. A lot of my followers are
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Bravo fans. We're not going to break any wild news here,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: bro don't worry about it. What's the most fun of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: being part of Summerhouse?
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, West and I just went to the World
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Series and we were on the field with like the
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: coaches and the umps, Like right before the game started,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I was like fifteen feet from Shoheo Tani like about
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: to lead off. And it's just like experiences like that,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: things that you just like can't pay for. The cool
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: opportunities it's afforded me being able to give back to
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: the community and like people messaging me saying like, because
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: of you, I went to the doctor, found out I
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: had something, early, caught it, and now I'm healthy. That
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: has been incredibly rewarding. And then just like the friendships
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: with people in the house, I think that's what makes
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: our show so special, is that, like, we really do
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: love each other and we really are a family, and
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: like the show just wouldn't work if these were fake friendships.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: So two questions I always ask, because I like it
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: to keep it fun. But since you're a music guy,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: if you had to be put on a desert island
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and you can only bring one album, what would that
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: album be?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Oh my mind immediately goes to John Mayer.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Hmm, wow, I just saw him at Rise Festival. He
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was great, he closed it. It was cool.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Was it fun?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Were you there?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: No, I wasn't there.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: It was fun. You gotta go, it was awesome.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I would just say, like continue him probably actually because.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I'm a Dead and Company guy. I mean I'm a deadhead,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: so as you can see, I like that. But he's
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: obviously taken over the mantle.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a big Dead and Co. Guy, but
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I love John Mayer.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Well, if we can six that, we might help you
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: with that, it would take it the Sphere.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm dying to go to the Sphere.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: It's the best. What is your dream vacation? That's my
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: other question.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I've never been to South America, so I'm planning to
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: go to Brazil. And I've never been to Greece, so
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping to get there this summer. The issue with
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Europe is we film in July and August, so I
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: haven't been able to like fit trips around filming. So
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I'm hoping to be able to go this summer.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Well, Man, thanks a lot. I mean, I appreciate all this.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I really as a cancer advocacy guy, you know, that's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I think what drew me to you and what you've done,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and I'd like to find ways to continue to partner
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: with you to get the word out. You can't say
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: it enough, and the fact that younger and younger people
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: are getting it. We got to make sure we prevent
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that from becoming a problem.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, No, I really appreciate you having me and
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the work that you're doing, and let's definitely do something
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: against here.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: So all right, Kate, you come back on and you
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: have to convince them to sing a song with me.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if we're going to get that done. Well.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yesterday Jim and I prepped the show and Jim wanted
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: you guys to do a little couple bars of what
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: would Jesse Do?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I just love that freakin episode, dude, I thought that
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: was great when you all sang together, What would Jesse
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Solomon do? I I don't even remember that promise it'll
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: be a friend to you.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: What would Jesse Sam do? People are gonna be like,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Jesse gave it a rest, brother, No, the voice is good.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I sang that song so long ago. I mean people
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: still love it, but it's like, yeah, it was almost
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: three years ago.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Now O Kate wanted a Diddy where you said, you know, hey,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: thanks for getting real with me today. I mean, I'm
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: just such a bad singer.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want me to like write a jingle
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: for the show, I'm available for hire for jingle writing.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: There we go. I like that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I want music, we need music. I do think I'll
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: get opportunities to get people on the show. Focus more
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: in that area. And one guy, Mickey Hart, who was
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: in The Grateful Dead, does a lot about music and
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: mental health. We're all gonna go into music in one
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: way or another. Hey everyone, thanks for joining me on
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the Get Real podcast. You know, I hope you feel
• 25:20
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• 25:23
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• 25:26
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• 25:31
  Speaker 1: talk about healthcare, but a lot of other fun topics.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: It's about making healthy. Talk about healthcare is not a lecture.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: This is supposed to be fun. And look forward to
• 25:42
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