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109: Nerds Make Bad Parents · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: To your stations, we have a movie meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: Exploiting single-frame pornography in a family film?
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  Speaker 4: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I am Brian.
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  Speaker 3: I am Misty.
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  Speaker 5: I am Marlena.
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  Speaker 4: And we're back for another fun, movie-filled week.
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  Speaker 3: Woo!
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I guess we can do our slightly abbreviated geek
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  Speaker 4: activities this week. Well, first off, the end of last
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  Speaker 4: week there, right after last week's show, I went home
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  Speaker 4: and watched the Golden Globes, and I've realized now Misty
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  Speaker 4: wants to adopt Natalie Portman's laugh.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 4: You're obsessed with it.
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  Speaker 3: What was up with that laugh?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Did you listen to it?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that loop that you posted on Facebook.
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  Speaker 4: See, I heard it live.
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  Speaker 5: And I watched it for like four minutes, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: why the fuck did I watch that?
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  Speaker 4: I saw it live.
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  Speaker 3: With the Brandon Fraser clap.
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  Speaker 5: It was Quentin Tarantino's face, I think. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just did it, but you all missed it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a fist bump circular action going on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was scary.
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  Speaker 5: Like duck face fist bump. It was the most classic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The sad thing is, the first time Jay heard
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  Speaker 3: the Natalie Portman laugh, he's like, all right, how long
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  Speaker 3: until somebody mashes that up with the Brendan Fraser clap?
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  Speaker 3: And then like two days later, there it was.
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  Speaker 4: Geeks, really, you guys need to find something else to
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  Speaker 4: do with your time. I mean, I thought we were
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  Speaker 4: bad just making a show, but at least I'm not
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  Speaker 4: editing together pointless clips of.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure which is worse, the fact that they
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  Speaker 3: made it or the fact that I sat and watched.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, at least I didn't sit and watch it at all.
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  Speaker 4: I realized that's what it was after a while, and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, really?
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  Speaker 1: This is all?
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  Speaker 4: For how long?
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  Speaker 3: What is wrong with people? Three and a half minutes.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even.
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  Speaker 5: It's ridiculous. I don't even remember what was so stupid
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  Speaker 5: about Brendan Fraser's clap.
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  Speaker 3: It went like... like that.
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  Speaker 4: It's his stupid face that he has all the time and.
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  Speaker 3: His hands and this motion that they're and he was.
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  Speaker 4: Like falling over like he couldn't contain himself and he.
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  Speaker 5: Was flailing about I was unaware of the Brenda Fraser
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  Speaker 5: clap before.
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  Speaker 3: That see I watched that because somebody mashed that up
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  Speaker 3: with the song the hell the hollaback girl so it's
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  Speaker 3: just the entire hollaback girl with him doing that clap
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  Speaker 3: and that face for the entire duration.
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  Speaker 4: Again, I say, people need something to do with their time.
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  Speaker 3: Because, in fact, that shit is bananas.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: What is wrong with her?
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  Speaker 4: Bananas sounds really good. How do you spell bananas?
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  Speaker 3: Anyway.
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  Speaker 5: I know how to spell bananas thanks to that song.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks for the phonetic teaching, Gwen Stefani.
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  Speaker 3: And I still had extra N's.
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  Speaker 4: This would be a good video to learn to read, too.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I don't know. I actually saw the laugh
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  Speaker 4: live and went, what a dork. Before it may have
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  Speaker 4: turned into a big deal, but I was like, it
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  Speaker 4: is sort of a little more endearing for people who
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  Speaker 4: already are dorks. It was just like, ah, good to
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  Speaker 4: know she's a big dork.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe it's because she's pregnant.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that ruined it for me, though. What the hell's that?
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  Speaker 3: Jay blames it on having to work with Ashton Kutcher.
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  Speaker 3: She done went retarded.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the mental state of Ashton Kutcher probably does rub
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  Speaker 4: off on you, because you see the way Demi Moore
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  Speaker 4: is now. What happened to her career?
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  Speaker 5: Her granny panties?
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  Speaker 3: Her granny panties.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, from what I've seen, she needs granny panties. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 5: Have you seen that bush?
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  Speaker 3: I have.
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  Speaker 4: If things haven't changed since that photo, she needs giant
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  Speaker 4: granny panties, because I don't need to see any of it.
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  Speaker 6: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. So that was ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: She's old, so it would have been great by now. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: and Dyson.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she dies. Both rug earrings.
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  Speaker 3: She wants the.
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  Speaker 4: Perfect match for her grapes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Even in her 60s. Mm-hmm. Yikes.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I was making my snide comments. If you're
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  Speaker 4: on the Twitter, I was throwing some out there while
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  Speaker 4: it was going on, which it's sad that that's become,
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  Speaker 4: that live tweeting award ceremonies has become its own thing
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  Speaker 4: at this point. Like, it happens every award ceremony now, basically.
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  Speaker 4: Just dorks who have nothing to do and sit there
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  Speaker 4: and watch it and make fun of it, like me. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's funny that that's become its own little corner of
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  Speaker 4: the subculture. Very strange. So movie-wise, the only other thing
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  Speaker 4: I watched, and this is one of those I just
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  Speaker 4: kind of had to watch for the sake of finalizing
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  Speaker 4: it and saying I'd watched it because I'd heard so
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  Speaker 4: much about it. And I'll go ahead and throw the
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  Speaker 4: spoiler alert now because if you weren't listening a few
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago, somebody on this crew spoiled it for me.
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  Speaker 4: Frozen me?
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  Speaker 3: I watched Frozen. Oh, that movie sucks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I basically already knew... what was going to
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  Speaker 4: happen and how and to most of the people. So yeah, I, I,
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  Speaker 4: there wasn't any surprise to it at all.
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  Speaker 3: Were you surprised about how much it sucked?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't hate it.
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  Speaker 3: I hated that movie.
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  Speaker 4: I just, it was one of those and I was
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  Speaker 4: describing it to someone this week and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: it's one you're going to question the judgment on a
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  Speaker 4: lot of the characters and at some point you're going
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  Speaker 4: to be screaming at the TV. No, there is a
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  Speaker 4: lot of those.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: No, what? Stop.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no. That was the entire movie. Dude, you
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  Speaker 3: ought to have heard Jay. He was pissed throughout the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing. His main thing was the whole thing about
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  Speaker 3: the wire being razor sharp.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I still don't get that. I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 4: I understand it from the story standpoint. They needed somebody
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  Speaker 4: to keep them on there. Otherwise, he would have climbed
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  Speaker 4: across the first minute and they would have gotten out.
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  Speaker 1: Which is what should have happened, really.
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  Speaker 4: That's, you know, would have made sense. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 4: a big, rounded piece of wire. I don't understand... How
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  Speaker 4: it's razor sharp. How it's razor sharp. Why it would
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  Speaker 4: slice up your hands like that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: If you climb the whole way through, it might start
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  Speaker 4: to wear on your hands a little bit. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't see it being razor sharp.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that part didn't.
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  Speaker 3: They weren't that high up, really. Right after we watched it,
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  Speaker 3: like not a couple weeks later, that actually happened. Like
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  Speaker 3: a ski lift fell. The cord broke or something. And
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  Speaker 3: it was like higher than it was in Frozen. And
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  Speaker 3: nobody got hurt. There was like a bruise or two.
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  Speaker 3: And nobody got hurt. And you're talking about this dumb fucker. See,
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  Speaker 3: my whole thing about not cursing for the year did
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  Speaker 3: not last long.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I tried, I tried. It was a very valiant effort.
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  Speaker 3: I think I've done better, but still, people that are
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  Speaker 3: just that fucking stupid deserve to be cussed at.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm worse on the show, actually.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't help it. You all bring out the
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  Speaker 3: worst in me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 3: But anyways, I'm like, I forgot what I was talking about.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta tell me this is stupid, but he's gonna
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  Speaker 3: break both his legs. No, you dumb bastard.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the snow, the snow is hard.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like... Snow is not hard.
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  Speaker 5: If you fell into a giant pile of snow from
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  Speaker 5: like 20 feet up, you would just sink into it
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  Speaker 5: and probably be fine. You might be cold. You might
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  Speaker 5: get snow in your panties.
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  Speaker 4: Not if it was frozen on top. If it actually
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  Speaker 4: froze solid.
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  Speaker 3: Once you break that first layer.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm saying, if that many people were, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: maybe they weren't, going that way maybe that's just where.
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  Speaker 3: That and another thing learn how to jump from a
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  Speaker 3: distance you do not land feet first you're supposed to
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  Speaker 3: distribute your weight.
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  Speaker 4: Evenly belly flop.
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  Speaker 3: That way it absorbs it better and you.
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  Speaker 4: Know as long as you didn't hit your head that
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  Speaker 4: would work better but yeah i don't again if that's
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  Speaker 4: what would have happened that's what would have happened to
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  Speaker 4: me because like the first minute i was like i
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  Speaker 4: fucking just jump go on just jump it's like you'll
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  Speaker 4: be fine it's snow just jump so i probably would
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  Speaker 4: have done that guy Or hopefully would have sent enough
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  Speaker 4: to just climb out like they did.
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  Speaker 3: You got eaten by wolves.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably. So, yeah. Never happens. I knew that part
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  Speaker 4: was coming, too. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And wolves that travel in packs.
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  Speaker 6: Wait, Creed?
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  Speaker 5: Did you see that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I posted it on Facebook.
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  Speaker 5: I thought that was you that posted it.
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  Speaker 4: I think wolves do travel in packs.
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  Speaker 3: But they don't attack, usually. They're more shy of people.
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  Speaker 3: They don't, like.
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  Speaker 5: They say that almost never, ever, ever happens.
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  Speaker 4: Except in movies. Again, I can throw that stuff out.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I throw a lot of rules out the
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  Speaker 4: window because things are movies. But sometimes they're just so overwhelming,
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  Speaker 4: like in this movie, where you just want to scream
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  Speaker 4: at them. The wolf thing I was ready to let slide.
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  Speaker 4: It was just like, eh. I mean, that becomes your
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  Speaker 4: villain in the movie. You kind of need that. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 4: what the hell happens to them? They get down and
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  Speaker 4: they go away.
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  Speaker 3: Every character in this movie deserved to die. Every one
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  Speaker 3: of them.
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  Speaker 1: See, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't hate them as much. Their judgment I did,
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  Speaker 4: but for being stuck with these three characters, especially the
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  Speaker 4: two that we end up spending most of the time with,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't hate them. I was like, really? I've seen
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  Speaker 4: a lot more annoying characters in a lot more horror movies.
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  Speaker 3: I just didn't like them because they have that overprivileged, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: let's talk our way into getting something for free.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's because they're jerks, but I agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Which is why from the beginning I didn't like them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, really? You think you're special? You think you
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  Speaker 3: get a discount?
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people. If you can scam your way in,
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  Speaker 4: you win. That's how it works.
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  Speaker 3: I hate people like that.
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  Speaker 4: So I don't know if that was the other thing
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  Speaker 4: I'd watch this week. I didn't hate it. It's exactly
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  Speaker 4: what I expected, especially since I knew everything that was
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  Speaker 4: going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't spoil the very, very end, did I?
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  Speaker 4: I knew somebody got out. I don't remember. There was
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  Speaker 4: no big surprise there. If I was putting money on somebody,
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  Speaker 4: I knew who it was going to be. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Iceman?
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  Speaker 4: Iceman didn't use his Iceman powers.
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  Speaker 3: He, in fact, did not use his Iceman powers. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm still not even sure if that's him or his brother,
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  Speaker 3: because there's two of them that are kind of the same.
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  Speaker 3: Sean and Aaron Ashmore.
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  Speaker 4: He definitely looked like Iceman, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: I paid attention enough to him, so who knows.
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  Speaker 3: That's like me trying to differentiate which London is in
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  Speaker 3: a movie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just know they both suck, and it saves you
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  Speaker 4: a step, really.
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  Speaker 3: Dazed and Confused still kicks ass. I watched that last night.
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  Speaker 1: What did you watch?
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  Speaker 3: Dazed and Confused.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. Well, that'll be your intro into yours. Okay, so
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  Speaker 4: that was it for me. What did you do?
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  Speaker 3: We watched Days to Confuse while I took down the
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  Speaker 3: Christmas tree.
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  Speaker 4: You are timely as ever. Right on top of things.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I was putting it off because I
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  Speaker 3: love Christmas. No, I wanted to leave it up, but
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  Speaker 3: then it's like the longer I leave it up, the
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  Speaker 3: more chance it has of staying up until next Christmas,
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  Speaker 3: and then I won't have the joy of putting it
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  Speaker 3: up next Christmas.
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  Speaker 4: Plus you become one of those people. Yeah, whatever. Those
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  Speaker 4: people that it's March and their Christmas tree is still up.
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  Speaker 3: I was, I was, I don't know, one of these
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  Speaker 3: days it's gonna stay up that long. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 3: I've made it till February before. But, uh, yeah, we
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  Speaker 3: watched Days of Confused, which still kicks ass, even when
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  Speaker 3: you're watching the edited-for-TV TNT version.
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  Speaker 5: Ugh.
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  Speaker 4: I just try to avoid those all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I watched, I saw, I didn't really watch,
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  Speaker 3: I caught a clips of, uh, they've been showing Kill
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  Speaker 3: Bill a lot on TNT. Yeah. Like, back-to-back-to-back, and just
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  Speaker 3: the way they edit that is just frightening.
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  Speaker 4: First one or both?
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  Speaker 3: They were showing both of them, but the one I
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: caught was the scene of Oren doing the, uh, The
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  Speaker 3: table scene. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The translator.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, how they managed to edit out most of the
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  Speaker 3: blood in that scene, which is fascinating.
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  Speaker 4: And she throws a few words around, too.
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  Speaker 3: They changed a couple of them, and then they did
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  Speaker 3: this thing where they edited her face to get rid
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  Speaker 3: of one of them.
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  Speaker 5: Get rid of one of what?
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  Speaker 3: One of her curse words, and it was towards the end.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she throws a few good ones in at the
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  Speaker 4: end there.
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  Speaker 3: But they morphed her face, which.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't even bleep it or change the word. They
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  Speaker 3: CGI'd her face to get rid of a word, and
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: that's just bizarre.
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  Speaker 4: You really should not do that.
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  Speaker 3: They should not. It's no, give me the keys, you
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  Speaker 3: fairy godmother.
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  Speaker 4: I was describing that this week, too. I was like, no,
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  Speaker 4: that's the best. I've seen some good ones. There's some
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: second tier ones in Fargo. Those are my second favorite, but.
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  Speaker 3: Give me the keys, you fairy godmother. And for anybody
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  Speaker 3: who doesn't know what that is, give me the gun,
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  Speaker 3: you motherfucker. Wasn't that it?
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  Speaker 1: No, give me the.
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  Speaker 4: Hand me the keys, you fucking cocksucker. It's the usual suspects.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: You know the line-up scene. Yeah, that's the line.
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  Speaker 3: It's so ingrained in my head, it's give me the keys.
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  Speaker 4: You fairy godmother.
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  Speaker 3: That I don't even remember what the original line was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's funny enough hearing them say that line
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  Speaker 4: in the real movie, let alone when they change it
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  Speaker 4: in the edited-for-TV version to that. Which I still say,
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: the second favorite of mine is the one that they
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: constantly make Steve Buscemi use in Fargo is Frozen. He becomes,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I gave you simple Frozen instructions.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, really? Simple Frozen instructions. I like my instructions.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna go get some frozen pancakes. We already had pancakes
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  Speaker 4: for lunch. So, oh man.
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  Speaker 3: I love edited for TV movies. I gotta be in
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  Speaker 3: the right mood for it. It's gotta be one that's
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: so littered with profanity.
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  Speaker 4: I just, why would you do that?
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: Just don't play them on TV. What was the one
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: from Chasey and Amy? Bloody Snot Rag?
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: Bloody Snot Rag? Oh yeah, the nuns were a Bloody
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: Snot Rag.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: Ah, good times. This morning I tried to make an
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: effort to watch In the Name of the King. I
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  Speaker 3: watched it the first time.
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  Speaker 4: See, I don't think I made it that long, but
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  Speaker 4: I think mine's I just gave up and went to sleep,
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  Speaker 4: which is usually what I do. But yeah, I think
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  Speaker 4: I only made about 20 minutes in. It was horrible.
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  Speaker 3: There was no cars for Jason Statham to drive in
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  Speaker 3: this car. There was no guns, really. I still want
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  Speaker 3: to watch it.
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  Speaker 4: It's that level of awful kind of cool. It's so bad,
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  Speaker 4: it was enjoyable for me.
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  Speaker 3: It has such a cast that makes it hard to
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: hate this movie. You've got Jason Statham, Burt Reynolds is
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: in this.
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: I don't even think I made it to it.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: Ron Perlman. You know? Matthew Lillard, who plays the most
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: despicable character I've ever seen.
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: Annoying as he always is.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: But I usually love Matthew Lillard. He's so ridiculous. But
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: this was just, ugh. He played the sniveling character, which
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: I hate. Ugh. But then, I can't remember who else
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: was in it. We decided What's-Her-Face from Mallrats was in it.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Claire Forlani.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: Is that her?
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't recognize her. Maybe she had a sandwich since then. Um.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it was just horrible. The acting was horrible.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: The dialogue's horrible. But it was fun when I watched
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: of it. I was just laughing at it the whole time.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: In the time that I watched it, Jason Statham kept
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: his shirt on. Which I'm not used to.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: You're let down.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: I am. He had his shirt on. There was no
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: oil involved. There was nothing that was in your typical
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: Jason Statham movie.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Well, it was just on when we got here and
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: I walked in and I'm like... Number one, we were
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: making fun of Ray Liotta's acting, because I'm still possibly
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: convinced maybe he just lucked into a good performance in Goodfellas,
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: because everything I see him in, he's so bad. He
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: is horrible. What kills me is he's wearing a leather
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: jacket like it's Goodfellas. His jacket looks like he bought
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: it in New York. I'm just like, what the hell
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: is the costuming going on here? Because that does not
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: look like a medieval coat of any type.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, he missed the really bad part when he was controlling,
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: because apparently Puppet sees a bad guys so he was
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: like standing in this big swirl of blue glittery stuff
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: and he does this pose that involved like his hand
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: thrust out like this and his eyes were all like
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: serious look at me I'm a serious man face and
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I was just like oh my god I burst out
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: laughing good times wow and that's all the edited for
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: TV movies that I watched I watched Dread which was
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: stupid I don't even remember which one it was it's
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: adapted from a short story of Clive Barker So you
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: know you're in trouble right there.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they can't quite get those right. Or almost any
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: stories of his anymore.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Anyways, it's starring Jackson Rathbone.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: That's a made-up name.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Who you would probably remember from S. Darko. And I
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: would make fun. I remember because he was in the
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Twilight movies.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, he was the dorky one. He's the one that
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: tries to kill her.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: He's the one who makes the poop face through the
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: entire Twilight series.
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: You say that about a lot of people in that movie.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: But he has serious, oh my god, I got a
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: poop face. It's like constantly the whole time he has
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: his face and you're like, oh, he's probably squeezing one
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: out right now. But it was horrible. The whole concept
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: of this movie was these college students were going to
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: do a project on fear and dread, what people's deepest,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: darkest dreads and fears are. So they set up camcorders
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: and they record these people. Well, apparently one of them
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: just eventually snaps and he starts using these people's dreads
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: and fears to terrorize them. Which sounds like an okay
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: idea in theory, but it was just stupid. It was horrible.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I wanted to punch this movie in the face if
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: it had one. Yeah, it was bad. I'm not even
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: sure if I want to get into what else we
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: watched without Jay here. Because, yeah, I probably want to
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: talk about at least one, if not two of them.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I'll talk about Mega Piranha, I guess.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: You could save it for next time. It's up to you.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think he'll be too upset if I
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: go into Mega Piranha. He might. I don't know. It
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: was a mess. Had the worst acting I've ever seen
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: in my entire life. I'll bring up the points that
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: he probably would have brought up, because I listened to
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: him bitch about them through the entire movie.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: If he'll be here, we can do, like, a special
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: segment at the end of him complaining.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Complaining about the movie?
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Because, yeah, I'm sure he'll probably want to bitch about it.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I guess we can edit that in at some point
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: or save it for the end of the show. Because
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll have something to say about the crystal skull, too.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, I forgot about that one. Yeah.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: He was not too happy with that one. We can... Yeah,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: we'll save that one for him. Because he said he'll
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: be here later. Other than that, I don't think I
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: watched anything else. The kid was in her room all
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: week and went to Meekman World. He'll probably talk about that.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Those are awesome.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I love Pigment's role.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: She was grounded from real TV.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: She had to learn things?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Damn it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: She could only watch educational stuff all weekend.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: That's the best educational program you can watch.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: That's still entertainment. That's not even just educational. That's still like.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: That's pretty damned entertaining.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that doesn't really... That doesn't really kind of
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: grounding her. She's getting to watch something she's enjoying to watch.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Make her watch like... I don't know. Lame stuff. Like,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I can't think of anything lame enough right now that
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: would describe.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Educational films that they used to show us in school,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: because they were not entertaining. That's why everybody slept.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I went and saw The Elvis Birthday Tribute. That was
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: pretty exciting. Me and my mom, we go see that
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: every year. Two of them we've seen before. One of
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: them was different, and he had chick hips, so we
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: made fun of him the whole show.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine you doing that to anyone.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Dude, I'm telling you, he was, like, normal from the
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: waist up, but then he had these thunder thighs that
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: put mine to shame. They were just... Man.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Man, that's all I can say. Good times. I don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: think I have anything else right now. I think I'm good.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: All right. Marlene.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Actually, I don't think I watched anything at all.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Well, you couldn't hear it if you did.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: You were having TV issues. Yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: My TV has no sound. It's brand new.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I fought with it, too. I don't understand what's
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: going on. I think it just had damaged speakers or something.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it sucks.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: It's okay.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: It's a brand new flat screen TV, but that's all right.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: I don't need sound. I like to read anyway.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Told you. Quotes, captions, you're all set.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I don't think I've watched anything really. Maybe
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: some more TV shows like The British Office and The Inbetweeners.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Catch up on your Ricky Givage.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Everybody hates him now.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I love him. I love him.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: Why does everyone hate him now?
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Because you didn't watch The Golden Globes.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: What'd he do?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Talk shit about just about everybody. I liked his intro
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: to Robert Downey Jr. I saw that later on TV.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Because it was true.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: You would know I'm best from the Betty Ford Clinic
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: or whatever drug clinic.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: See, what was funny is, and I was describing this yesterday,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: because everybody else was complaining. I was like, basically he
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: said what everybody says. He just said it in front
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: of them. I'm like, everybody makes those jokes about Robert
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Downey Jr. Everybody makes jokes about F.J.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Kutcher and Bruce Willis. And nobody has seen The Tourist.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: And nobody cares about The Tourist. And I'm like, He
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: just said everything that everybody at home was thinking. Just
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: everybody else there was too busy kissing each other's ass
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: to actually say. So I was like, don't hire the
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: guy and then be mad for him doing what he does.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure it was somewhat approved by whoever.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. Because he then bad-mouthed the
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: guy running the Golden Globes, which got him in trouble.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: So I don't think, yeah, they were prepared. But I'm like, well,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: that's your own fault. You shouldn't be stupid enough to
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: expect him to softball it. Because you know what? That's
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: not how he operates. He's a jerk, and he doesn't care.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think I really cared about him until now,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and now I love him.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: You might actually even like the British office. I know
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: you hate the American office.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I hate British.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: In general. But he's kind of British. I know. Everyone's
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: a raw one. I'll break through. I hate, like, with
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the entire cast. Except for S Club 7. If the
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: entire cast is British, it drives me nuts. Even on
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: S Club 7, it wasn't, like, the one guy with
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: the crocodile. He wasn't British. So at least I had.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they went to Miami, so that screwed everything up. Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: But.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: There's this scene in the British office that I love,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: and I just laugh about it, like, a week later still. Like,
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I'll just say it to myself, and I'll laugh about
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: it for, like, five minutes. It's really weird. It's the weirdest, like,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: idiosyncrasy I've developed in the last month. There's this scene
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: in the British office where they've hired, or they've brought
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: someone else in to do a team-building exercise, and he's like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: all right, we're going to role-play. And David, which is,
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: you know, Ricky, whatever his name is. The guy's like, okay,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: I'm going to play a hotel manager. And you're a
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: customer of the hotel who wants to make a complaint.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: And he's like, he comes up, he's like, hi, I'd
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: like to make a complaint. The hotel manager goes, don't care.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: He's like, but this is the complaint desk. He's like, yep,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: don't care. And then he yells, there's been a rape upstairs.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: What?
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: And the whole office just stops and it gets really
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: quiet and it's awkward and I laughed so hard about that.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know why.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: You're amused by odd things.
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: And I think about that and I'll yell that to people.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: They don't understand what I'm talking about.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: No, they're ready to call the police.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Do people know what I'm talking about when I yell
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: that randomly, like in a restaurant or wherever I am?
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: But it's so funny to me, and I laugh about
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: it for like five minutes.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: Which is really weird.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Only you.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Love that show. Yeah, that's all I've done. That's... Watch TV,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: read books. I did get internet, so I will be
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: catching up on movies again with Netflix and stuff like that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: I don't even think anything really funny or weird happened
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: to me.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: A Marlena moment?
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a down week.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'll think of it later, of course.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Driving home.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean, I can't think of any... God,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: this week has kind of been like an off week
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: for me, I guess. Nothing extremely weird.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: There was no black snake moan, no leg humping, no nothing.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Well, some guy did rub his butt on me while
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: I was dancing, but that's like.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: That's par for the course.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not even that big of a deal.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You know, but... It's just your regular Tuesday.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: It was Friday, but....
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, nothing.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Well, that's good. We can wrap it up. We're trying
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: to mix up these shows. We're doing some... that are
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: just going to be news. We're going to do some
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: that are just going to go straight into the sofa
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: theater discussion. So I think, you know, this week is
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: going to be more of the movie-based one. So we'll
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: actually take a break here, and we will be back
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: with this week's sofa theater feature.
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: We're taking the proof Cast means the end, they survive.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Just back Harder to choose.
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: Where to feed the fire, die, sink or swim Which
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: one shall I choose?
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah Stupid string, get paid By the hour, three-fifty He
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: can't figure out.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: What's wrong This little boy, and this little girl, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: mother and father too, they all have an urge and oh.
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: What a urge for something to watch and chew, to chew.
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: Now he's not just swell and there strings a bell,
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: the popcorn is crispy and.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Hot, baby. If you've seen all.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: The other horror films, this is for you.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: More horror, more screams, and more fright than your wildest
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: nightmares in Frankenstein's Bloody Terror, an all-new super-shocker filmed in
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Chillorama 70mm and gory color. Now meet the Wolf Monster,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a slashing, inhuman creature.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Who prowls by night for new victims.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: It's terror beyond your most fearsome imagination as vampires using
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the powers of witchcraft summon the hideous Wolf Monster. Don't
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: miss Frankenstein's Bloody Terror. It's a super shock spectacle of
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: hideous horror in Chillerama 70 and gaudy color. Rated GP.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I love the movies.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the biggest movie event of the year here.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: We're going to have a great night, ladies and gentlemen.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: And the Oscar goes to... And the Oscar goes to.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Nick Ledger.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
• 26:29
  Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, prepare yourselves. It's time for the third
• 26:34
  Speaker 7: annual Movie Meltdown Oscar Mayer Party. With all the blitz, glamour,
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: poor products, and vicious commentary you've come to know and love.
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: The Academy Awards will never be the same.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Bacon tastes good. Paw chops taste good.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Coming soon to this feed. Don't miss it. Oscar Meltdown 3D.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: It's going to be artery clocking good.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Hi, this is Larry Blamire, also known as Dr.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Paul Armstrong, doing science for Movie Meltdown.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Over the course of the last three years, our lab
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: has combined the DNA from a variety of species to
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: create a completely new life form.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: And, as you know, Ginger has exceeded all expectations in
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: her ability to produce medicinal proteins for livestock.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: What you don't know is that since the birth of Fred,
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: we have an upgraded splicing technique which can be applied
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: to the most sophisticated of organisms. Namely... Human beings.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Hold on, let's not get too far ahead of ourselves now.
• 27:46
  Speaker 9: By incorporating human DNA into the hybrid template, we can
• 27:49
  Speaker 9: begin to address any number of genetically influenced diseases.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, diabetes, even some forms of cancer.
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: Well, I can't tell you how excited we are. The
• 28:08
  Speaker 10: entire board is thrilled with the progress you've made. Which
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: is why we are so anxious to move on to
• 28:16
  Speaker 10: phase two.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Phase two?
• 28:19
  Speaker 10: The product stage. We need to isolate the gene in
• 28:23
  Speaker 10: Ginger and Fred that produces your magic protein. We are
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: shutting down the splicing facilities, retooling your labs for intensive
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: chemical analysis.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Shutting down?
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I don't understand. We're handing you the medical breakthrough of
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: the century. We could begin to.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Elsa, we all know that can't happen right now. The
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: moral outrage would be completely out of control. Regulators and politicians,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: they'd tear us to pieces.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Please. If we don't use human DNA now, Someone else will. Okay,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: we wrote this for a purpose to motivate you at
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: this time. With this hypnotizing bass line, please feel free
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: to lose your mind.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Can't get high, get money, get sex, get real.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: All in the twine.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is stadium music.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: 50,000 at a time. Let's get right, let's get right,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: let's get right, okay, okay.
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: Let's get right, let's get right, let's get right, okay, okay.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: All the girls want happy fun. All right, we are
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: back with Movie Meltdown Sofa Theater. This week's Sofa Theater
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: feature is Splice. The year is 2009. Director Vincenzo Natalia.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: They plot, according to IMDb, two young rebellious scientists are
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: told by their employers to halt groundbreaking work that is
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: seeing them produce new creatures with medical benefits by splicing
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: together multiple organisms' DNA. They decide to secretly continue their work,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: but this time splicing in human DNA.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Dun dun dun!
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: And with that, spoiler alert, because there's all kinds of
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: crazy things going on in this movie, and we're going
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: to divulge them all. So, you've been warned. With that,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: where would you like to begin?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Sarah Pauly's a bitch.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: That's all I got on her.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Five more beds, who's the gum ratio?
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: You guys can say what you want. I will go
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: on record right now, and I've said it before. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: have a weird soft spot for Sarah Pauly. I don't
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: even fully understand it. She's just.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: She was all right up until this point. She just
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: looked homely as hell in this movie.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: I feel that way about Adrian Brody, so it's okay.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: See, that's what I was thinking. They're actually a pretty
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: good pair, because they actually do seem like they would
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: match up in the real world. They both kind of
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: work on that level. They're not unconventionally attractive, but they
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: kind of are in their own weird way.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: You're actually kind of ugly, but for some strange reason,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: I still want you.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: I think Sarah's cute.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: I thought she was cute before this, but then something
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: about this is just... Maybe it was just bad lighting
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: I think it was bad lighting.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Bad makeup or something.
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: No makeup at all.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: She's a science nerd.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: What do you want? Something. Seriously. Holy Christ.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: Well, first off, I'll have to say this movie was
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: horribly mismarketed. If you ever saw the trailer, because I
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: saw it at the front of something like last year,
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: well before it came out, and I was just like, oh,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: this looks bad. And it just looked like a bad ripoff. Like,
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: it very much looked like a species ripoff, I think
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: is what I called it. I think we watched it
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: at the beginning of something, and I was like, yeah,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: they already had this movie, it was called Species. And that's, like,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: their big mistake, because I think this is way different
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: and kind of a lot smarter. I mean, Species just
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: becomes a big goofy action movie. It still shares a
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: little bit there in the basic setup, but... I think
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: by the end, it's just them running around shooting at her,
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: and it's Michael Madsen delivering his wonderful lines. So, I mean,
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: it becomes a goofy action movie more than anything at
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: the end of that, where this, I think, enters into
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: a lot of different territory that that one doesn't even
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: begin to cross. So, I don't know, I think that
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: was their mistake right off the bat, and again, that's
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: usually not the filmmakers doing, that's the studio gets a
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: hold of it and sends their editors in there, and they...
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: on one hand I understand why they're really trying to
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: sensationalize it they're really trying to play up the horror
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: angle which is how they sold it it comes off
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: like it's a creepy monster movie and it's like not
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: really I mean there's a little of that that comes
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: into play but I don't know I think they were
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: probably just trying to pull in that market but it's
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: once again with all of these like mismarketing trailers it's
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: like you're gonna pull them in there for that and
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: then they're just gonna be mad because they didn't get
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: what they expected going in we've had that many times
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: lately so I don't know. I think this was one
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: of those cases where they just really marketed it wrong,
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: and it's a very different movie than how they presented it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not really sure what to think about this movie yet.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: I haven't digested it enough.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Still processing.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: The only thing I can think of is... The only
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: word I can use to describe this movie is absurd.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I'll give you... It crosses some lines into absurdity and
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: bad taste on occasion, but... Absurd. It's definitely... totally plays
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: on the old-school mad scientist storyline. I mean, it's exactly that,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: only mixed with modern science. It's taking that exact Frankenstein
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: story and then adding DNA splicing into the middle of it,
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: which is kind of cool, actually. I mean, that is
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: taking that same story that we saw for years and
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: just adding a whole new weird scientific spin on it.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: So much so, and I thought at first, I was like, well,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: maybe it was just sort of a minor thing they
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: were going for. I don't think I realized until after
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: the fact. Did you realize the names of the characters?
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: They're Clive and Elsa, who are the two actors that
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: played the Doctor and the Bride in The Bride of Frankenstein.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: It's not subtle at all. It was very heavily influenced
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: and meant to be a big homage to old school
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: science horror movies. So I think it makes it okay
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: then that they go in, you know, sort of knowing
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: that and playing on those tropes.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: I was aggravated at how it just suddenly changed. It's like,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: he goes from hating Dren, wanting to kill her, and
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: her defending, and then all of a sudden, just like that,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: it's completely switched, and the next thing you know, he's
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: naked with her. It was just too sudden. It seemed
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: like there was no real in-between. There wasn't any kind of...
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: The changing of his mind.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: There kind of was. Well, that's what I thought was.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Not really. Not as drastic as it was.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Not that drastically, maybe. But I think that was what
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: was kind of cool. And that's what I kind of
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: like about their relationship or being the main two characters
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: in this is like they constantly change. It is almost
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: like parenting. And this is such a weird thing because
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: it's mixing weird DNA testing with parenting is what it
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: becomes as it goes along. So in those stages in
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: the middle there, they really do start to behave like parents.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: And they do almost have to switch off. It's like
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: she totally gets sucked in and has this maternal instinct
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: kicked in and she becomes very mothering and wants to
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: take care of it. And then it's like.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Suddenly it's gone. It's just like an instant. There's no in-between.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: There's only one scene.
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: The thing became a teenager.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and she switched places. Then she became the bad
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: cop in the scenario. Then she had to be the
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: one with the strong hand and she had to yell
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: at her and she had to do that. And then
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: he became the good parent and he was just like, no,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: it's okay, don't, you know, he was always there kind
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: of defending her once she hit that teenage stage, and
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: he's like, don't yell at her.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: It was just too sudden. There was no transition for me.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: She grows up in a couple months. There's not a
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: whole lot of time for this.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, for them, for their transition, there should
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: have been more, I don't know, it just seemed like
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: the roles just reversed too quickly for me. It's like
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: there was no in-between, and that's what, I'm like, that's
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: not realistic. There's got to be some in-between where you,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: think about things or something, not just constantly, like, or
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: just instantly, oh.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Well, it's okay, you know?
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: And that's from I'm going to kill it to, aw,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: let's not kill it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: But then she got pretty, like, before it was a
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: creepy looking little kid.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: With a little split head and a hair lip.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Like, but that part, I mean, that part is really creepy. Like,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: that first, when it's just, like, the weird little creature
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: hopping around, at that point it does. I mean, it
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: starts playing on all these other movies. You do see
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: a whole lot of Alien in that first scene when
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: they're playing with the, creature running around the room so
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: I'm at that point thinking it's going down that road
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: but by the time the creature comes out in a
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: little powder blue dress I'm like okay this is entering
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: into weird creepy territory here and and stuff you haven't
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: really seen before because they they didn't have you know
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: attached themselves to it and that's when the point where
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: it's not like a science experiment anymore where it becomes
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: parenting and they have to start applying like parenting strategies
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: and rules to it. I mean, the times when she's
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: trying to discipline her. No, she can't get away with that.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: You don't do that with a science experiment. You do
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: that with a child. I think that's what's kind of cool.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: That's the only reason I never want to have kids.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Well, this isn't really an advertisement for parenting. This makes
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: you see a lot of the downsides of having an offspring,
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: even if it's genetically DNA enhanced. Don't you hate when
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: that happens?
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Sprout wings and this morning i was all four babies
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: being decanted this made me change my mind.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: But it i don't i think that's the part that's
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: kind of cool is that middle section there where it
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: actually it becomes more about their characters and you do
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: watch her kind of dealing with that where she goes
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: from this this like modernized woman who's like all about
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: her science nerd career and wants nothing to do with
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: having a baby and having to carry it around and
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: all the bullshit that comes with The interrupting their lives
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: portion of it that I think a lot of women
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: go through at that point. And all it takes is
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: being exposed to her, and the maternal thing kicks in.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of cool that it starts to explore that. Again,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: it never really gives it a chance to go fully
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: on any of these little avenues, but I think it
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: enters into a lot of really interesting territory.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Dren, you must never, ever run off on me like
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: that again.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Do you understand?
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: What?
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Do you understand?
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Dren, look at me.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: That was bad.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Bad Dren! I'm sorry, sweetie. I'm not angry at you.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: I was just... I was really worried. But then that
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: maternal instinct just kind of dies. She's like ready to
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: cut off parts of it, you know?
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Kind of. I think then they enter into this other
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: weird area, which is then you enter into her backstory
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: and her mother.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I never really.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: They.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Brought it up, they didn't elaborate on it, which was
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: really fucking annoying.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: It's pretty minor. I mean, they mention it here and there,
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: but I think that's where they sort of play it in,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: is you start to see... I mean, what happens with
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: most dysfunctional families, it's like you either do a 180
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: and you become completely against everything, you become, you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: you're so working to not be like them... or you
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: become exactly like your parent, you become, you fall into
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: whatever horrible behaviors, and there's many different roads that goes
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: down too, but a good portion of them turn around
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: and become what was so horrible to them growing up,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: you become your parent, and she kind of starts skating
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: that line of being a little too hard on the kid,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: and almost abusive in certain situations, granted, the kid's like
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: killing the family pet, but still, it's like she's crossing
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: that line. And I think it's another thing. They kind
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: of work in there that's sort of interesting.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: She shouldn't have took the damn cat from her in
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: the first place. That's what she did.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: She really shouldn't. That's the part I agree with you
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: she was kind of mean. Because, I mean, she'd already
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: had it. If she was going to get sick, odds
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: are she would have already gotten sick. And you guys
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: brought it up while we were watching it. She's going
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: to die soon anyway. For God's sakes, let her have
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: a cat. So, I'll give you that one.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: You're in a barn.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: You won't let her out.
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: God.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, you're keeping her in a dirty fucking barn. Like, honestly,
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: is a cat going to have more germs than the barn?
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Crazy feline germs.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: That, like, they're, like, letting her swim in?
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: slats and boards there's no it can't be like rains.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: In there that's what i was thinking i was like
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: it's winter they're wearing huge coats she's running around in
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: a cotton dress for god's sakes and nothing else i'm
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: like i hope you like spliced in some like seal
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: dna so her skin's like resilient against this weather she
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: ain't got no shoes later she's not even wearing underwear
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: as we see so like she all she's got is
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: that damn little dress i'm like she's freezing for god's
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: sakes give her a coat it'd.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Be uncomfortable to wear underpants you have to have a
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: tail hole.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: You can do that. I've seen dogs with underwear.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like they were trying to make
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: the place seem all like it was a home or
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: something for her.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Why didn't they just let her in the home? I know.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: They were like, someone could see her, but they can't.
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: I don't know what it was.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: I'm like.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: I thought that was weird, too.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Put curtains on the fucking window.
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: Like, it's like 20 feet away. What difference does it
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: make from that? Their only other excuse was she needed
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: a place to swim. I'm like, well, she could walk outside.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: Put her in the damn bathroom.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: It was like... She can go out and swim. That's
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: how people with pools operate. They don't have to put
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: it in the house. I mean, shit. So, yeah, that
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: was weird little logicals. But, again, I think they were
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: just trying to get to the point that they needed
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: to be. And I guess she needed to be in
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: the barn because she starts to go kind of crazy later. But, again,
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: some of that is.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: She went crazy because they drove her that way.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Again, a lot of that is isolation. It's like
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: she had no way to... interact with anyone which is
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: kind of why she starts and again that's what i
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: think is kind of interesting in this is it becomes
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: parenting then it just becomes like a social experiment you
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: know it's like the reason that she then like she
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: hits puberty and she starts going through especially her because
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: she's so animalistic she starts going through these hormonal changes
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: and basically at that point you have to find someone
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: to mate with the only man she's ever been around
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: her entire life is kind of like her father so
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: it enters into a really creepy situation there And I
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: think that's the weird social experiment part of it. If
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: you take a child and never let them interact with
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: anyone else, it's like when they get to that point,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: that's all they have to work with. It's like they're
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: going to start attaching themselves to the only other person
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: that you respond to sexually, which is creepy. So don't
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: do that. Don't lock your child away, for God's sake.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know people that are like that.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No naming of names, I suppose.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a father figure, but in general.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: Old dudes?
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, old dudes.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, wait, now I know who you're talking about.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Oops.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Sorry about that. But, again, in the real world, that
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: stuff happens.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: At least she doesn't have a tail.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: They had that removed. She was born with a creepy tail.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: We know it. It's in a jar somewhere. Oh, God. But, again,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, that shows there is, like, a lot of
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: this is, like, stuff that ties into reality. I mean,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: as far-fetched and ridiculous as a lot of these ideas
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: are that are floating around here, there's a lot of
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: stuff rooted in the basics of, like, human interaction and, like,
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: the relationship between the couple and the relationship between parents
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: and a child. And I think that's the stuff that
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: I found really kind of interesting about the whole thing
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: is that stuff. And you enter into the weird little...
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: like mental stuff like the doll i think the doll
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: was like a really cool touch that that she you
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: know her abusive mother wouldn't even let her have a
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: doll so she had to hide this doll away and
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: that was her perfect little you know doll that she
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: took care of and then this creature becomes the exact
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: same thing nobody can find out about it so she's
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: hiding this life form away and it's her perfect daughter
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: kind of sort of whatever you want to call it
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: at that point but she at.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Least seemed to have love for the doll i mean
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: she turned around screwed over her daughter if.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: You put it Again, she hit that weird dividing line.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: It's like she was nice and then she just kind
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: of became a stern mother and then she hit that
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: point where... Once she's got her strapped down to the table,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: she's scary. Like, it really does seem like... I mean,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: she strips her down and starts cutting pieces off of her.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she was like... The whole stripping her down was
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: totally unnecessary because she cut off her tail.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think as she was saying... I think
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: as she's narrating off her research, I think she was
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: saying she needed to remove the human... The things that
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: were humanizing her because she's animalistic and she can't be trusted.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: And all we're doing is perpetuating this notion that she's
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: a human... when really she's dangerous, and she, I think, yeah,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: once again, you guys kind of made her that way,
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: but I think that was her reasoning for taking those
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: extreme steps, she took the necklace off of her, she
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: took the clothes off of her, because she didn't want
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: her to be a person, or to treat her like
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: a person, when she's really this dangerous creature, which is
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: your own fault, you started, you know, you started naming her,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: and giving her clothes from day one, so, I mean,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: he was the one that wanted to keep it as
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: an experiment and, you know, keep her in the lab
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: and keep, you know, everything very cut and dry. And
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: she started blurring those lines and then realized you can't
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: do that because she is a dangerous creature.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, that makes sense. I don't think I was paying attention.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: I feel sorry for Dren. I mean, they totally fucked
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: her over.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it plays both sides, especially the third act.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I guess we can get to that later. But, I mean,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: all the way up through the rest of it, you do,
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: especially the teenage years, I mean, She is going through
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of stuff, and you do start to, you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: sort of sympathize with her, and you're seeing them as, like,
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: the mean parents, especially Sarah Polly. Took her damn cat away.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: She took her cat away. She's just kind of yelling
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: at her everything she does, which it is one of those, though,
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: it is, you start to see her point. Like, I'm
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: looking at it from her perspective, and she is being
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: that stern parent and doing, you know, sometimes there are
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: times when I feel like, as a parent, you see,
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: you need to tell them, you know what, you don't
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: get to do everything you want. That's growing up. That's life.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: And if you let kids get away with everything, your
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: kids run all over you and they become horrible people. So,
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, there is a point where you do have
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: to do that.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you have to give them something.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, she had a pretty rough life, so
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: I think the cat was a mean call there. She
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: didn't need to divide it there.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Which is why I understand why, when she finally gave
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: the cat, when she gave the cat back to her,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I understand why she did what she did.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Again, spoiler alert, we've already spoiled a hell of a
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff going on, but.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: It's like, you're going to take my cat, but now
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: that you decide it's okay. No, I want your fucking
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: cat now.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: It's free. And it was, I mean, she really, that's
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: the ultimate of her rebellious teenager stage where she's like,
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: you know what? Fuck you. You know, it really is
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: that I'm going to act out violently at this point because,
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: you know, and I'll show you, you know, she takes
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: that very, again, that very bratty teenage version that, you know,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: we were talking about last time out that you get
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: to that point of defiance, if nothing else, that because
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: I can at this point, So I don't know, I
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: think that's all kind of well done at this stage.
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: They kind of handle all that. Pretty smart, the way
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: that they piece that stuff together.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I like how easy it is to apparently pick locks
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: in these high-tech security offices.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: He was a scientist.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: But still, yeah. What?
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: He like jammed tweezers in there and the door popped
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: right open.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: I'm like, really? Is that all it takes? I grab
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: my tweezers. I'm going down to the science place. Do
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: we have a science place?
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: I like that you refer to it as a science place, too.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: It says that real big on the side. Science place.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: We're all the learnings.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Nerds welcome.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Don't let me in. I'm a nerd. I'm not really
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: a nerd.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: You're a geek.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I'm a geek.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: It's a difference.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: I don't have any glasses with tape on them or anything.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: I don't have any pocket protectors.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, man.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: I guess we can at least get up to the
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: point where she then sort of crosses the line with Dad.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, he set it up, but he's so blind
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: by it all. Like, he's still, up until that point,
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: kind of looking at her like a kid. And he's
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: dancing around with her. But it's all still kind of
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: parental at that point. He doesn't see it that way.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: You can see her already kind of having this crush
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: on him. And she's been drawing him and all this
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: other stuff. So you see her starting to develop these
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: weird feelings towards him because he's the only man in
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: her life. But yeah, then we enter the scene in
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: the barn where she definitely takes it to the next level.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: So here's the part I have to say. I didn't
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: see that coming. I knew she was going to attempt that.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: I didn't see him following through with it. That caught
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: me off guard. I was like, whoa, whoa, okay. Wow,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: he's going there. All right. I did not see that coming.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: I knew she was going to make the move at
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: some point, and he initially kind of tries to fend
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: her off, and that's what I expected him to do.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: For like five seconds?
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: I was like... No, this is wrong.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, now, come on now.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Sarah probably does seem like a bitch, so I'm guessing
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: she probably ain't putting out quite that much.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: They already mentioned. I mean, it had been a long
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: time since this experiment started, and... He'd had the moment
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: right before that where he was looking at her on
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: the camera, and I think that's the first time you
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: see him start to see her as this sexual creature. Like,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, she's basically like a teenage girl,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: and she's hot for a second. And that's why he
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: kind of freaks out with the computer there, because I
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: think that's the first time it ever really occurred to him.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: And then she follows it up with putting the moves
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: on him, so it's kind of a weird moment there anyway, but... Yeah,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: I kind of, his character all the way up to
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: that point, I expected him to be the nice guy
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: all the way through and be like, no, no, this
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: is wrong. We can't do this.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: He doesn't.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Within five seconds, he changes and he's... That's a dude.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: What do you want?
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: I kind of thought that he'd resist and she'd kill.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Him right then and there yeah I mean that almost
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: fit that that's the part that's really out of character
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: for him is that he seems like number one a
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: good guy that wouldn't screw around on his girlfriend in
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: the real world general sense and number two he's such
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: a hardcore science nerd that's messing with your experiment in
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: ways that I think he would be, you know, not
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: up for.
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: And then it's also like your kids.
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: And it's that level, too. So, I mean, there's so
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: many levels where this is messed up.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: That seems out of character for him. Again, you know,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: I guess the heat of the moment, he decided to
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: change his mind, but... What if he realizes.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: That this is her only option, that maybe it's part
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: of her development?
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe. I mean, she is going to be
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: dead soon, according to their calculations, so maybe he's just like,
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: you know, here's her chance. This is, you know, I
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: am the only male in her life. This is the
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: only way for her to get to this point. Again,
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: that's creepy. I'm sorry.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She does have parts of his girlfriend and.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: That was the other, I was thinking it was sort
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: of a weird line there, where it's like he saw
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: his girlfriend in her earlier in the movie, so it's like,
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: it is almost still, in some way, like he's, you know,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: hooking up with her in a really creepy way.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: It's still like hooking up with her kid.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: It's still like hooking up with her kid more than anything,
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: which is really creepy. And it becomes the Woody Allen story. Anyways.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: He never knew her.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: He did too, she grew up with him.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: No, she grew, Mia Farrow and Woody Allen never lived together.
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: Mia Farrow and all her adopted children lived, like, on
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: the opposite side of town.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Whatever you say.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: You just keep telling me.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: He was pretty much her dad. Don't get me wrong,
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: because I've seen them together, and they actually are a
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: more well-adjusted couple than I would have ever expected. But
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: when I think about the story, I still think it's creepy.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a little creepy, but I'm just saying, like, they
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: didn't live in the same house or anything.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I still think he was dead.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: He had, like, Morgan Freeman and his granddaughter.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's fine.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: What?
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: That's totally fine.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: Morgan Freeman's with his granddaughter?
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Step-granddaughter, but he's known her since she was like, what, seven? Born.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: That's gross.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: That one's gross. Sure, that one's gross.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: How's that one more gross? I don't know.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know. They're all creepy. How about that? I
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to ever date anyone who's in my family,
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: whether by association or marriage or what.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: Ever again. I was like, have.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: I ever dated anyone in my family before?
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: I like that Jen just stopped and think for a second.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Wait a minute.
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: Because I date so frequently. I just had to stop
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: and think.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Don't. Don't.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: I don't even quite know what happened.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I was barely.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: I don't even know who you are anymore. You've become
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: something sick. Forget about what it means to me. There
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: are some things you do not do. We changed the rules.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: You're not talking your way out of this. We....
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Crossed a line. Things got confused.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: Confused about what?
• 52:33
  Speaker 7: Right and wrong.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: So, number one, I didn't expect it to cross that
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: line as a story. Definitely not him as a character.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: But then we enter into what... I think it's almost
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: the most impressive scene in there when he comes back
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: to talk to her at the apartment and it enters
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: on it. You hit all of those levels where he
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: comes in and he starts playing it and he's almost
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: playing it like this. You just busted me cheating on
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: you scene. And I'm like, okay, we've seen that in
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: a lot of movies. So I'm like, he's playing that
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: really well as that kind of scene. I mean, his
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: performance as he comes in and not even knowing how
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: to talk to her and starting to try to make excuses.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: And like, that was like, perfect in like any other
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: normal movie and then all of a sudden it hits
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: me okay you just fucked a genetic experiment for one
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: number two it's kind of like your kid there's so
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: many levels this is messed up how do you address
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: any of these issues And the more important part, the
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: more impressive part, is, like, they turn around and they
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: kind of do. Like, it switches gears midway through, and
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: it becomes... It turns away from that, I caught you
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: cheating with our child genetic experiment, and it becomes this
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: bigger question of this morality thing where, right and wrong,
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: and what have we done, and what did we even
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: set out to do, and how bastardized has all of
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: this become since we started this experiment we weren't even
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: supposed to be doing to begin with? I.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: I gotta stop there. I like his excuse. He's like, oh, oh,
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: what's right and wrong has been blurred. I just don't
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: know what's right and wrong anymore. I'm like, well played, Romeo.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: At that point, I was hoping, I was hoping he
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: wasn't talking about the screwing her part anymore. I was
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: hoping it was like, let's go bigger here. Yeah. There's
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: a lot more horrible things that have happened since we
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: started this.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: That was a pretty big umbrella that got.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: Him off the hook.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Again, don't get me wrong, it's still very creepy
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: and massively wrong, and I She kind of.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Was over it, though.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was. It's like she really did kind
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: of latch onto the bigger questions there, and I think
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: that last half of their conversation is really smart and
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: really well played and way more calm than I would
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: give anybody credit for actually having in the real world,
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: because they actually have a really smart conversation there and
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: kind of come to terms with a lot of what
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: has happened and almost what they need to do. It
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: doesn't pan out like that, but they do sort of
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: realize how wrong it is and what It needs to
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: be put to a stop one way or the other.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: They need to not continue the way that it's been going. So,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I still think that whole scene is
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: really impressive. Then it enters the third stage of the movie,
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: if you will, which is a very different movie at
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: that point.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Well, so they kind of allude to what's going to happen.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: You kind of know what's going to happen.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: When they talk about the first one.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: They talk about, was it Fred and Ginger? Yeah. When
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: they bring that experiment out and the fun that commences then.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: That was a fun scene. We skipped that one. Because
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: it was so over the top and horrifying that I
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: almost thought it was like a horrible nightmare sequence. Like
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: I was waiting. It got so bad there. I was
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: just like waiting for her to wake up and be like,
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: oh God, this is what we've done. This is the
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: road we're heading down with these horrible experiences. No, it
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: happened in the real world. Content was like bloody and
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: nasty and like... There should.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Not have been that much blood.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: I don't understand where all that blood came from. Again,
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: that was just sort of playing up the horror angle.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe they were.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: I like when the whole audience was, like, spattered in blood.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: That was awesome.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Ridiculous.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, so yeah, that was a fun little scene.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: A bloodstravaganza.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: I don't want to refer to that as a bloodstravaganza.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I'm going to copyright that. I'm going to take it.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: But.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: But I think even just the whole third part of
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: the movie is like a different tone. Like that middle,
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: the first part's just sort of, it's a lot more scientific.
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: And as you brought up, kind of confusing. Because even
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I realized at the beginning there where they're working at
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: the computer and this big montage of.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, I was like, I have no idea what's
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking. That first time I watched it,
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: I was just like, you guys know we don't understand
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: what you're doing, right? You're doing science nerd stuff, so
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: you could kind of wrap that up in maybe a
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: 45-second montage.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Maybe they edited something important out of there, and they
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: just didn't bother to tell the rest of it.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: Well, I was thinking it's almost like the extended montages
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: in Iron Man when he's building shit. And I'm like...
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: You know, we don't know what you're doing, crazy science guy.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: In the end, you're going to have a cool Iron
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Man suit, but these, like, you know, ten minutes of
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: you welding shit and, like, working at the computer, eh,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: you can kind of narrow it down a little. We
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: don't need that much.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just confusing. I had no idea what
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: was going on, and I don't like it when I
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: don't know what's going on. I thought for a second
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: maybe I just blocked out and just didn't know what happened.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to catch that one little line there,
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: because in the beginning they're working on the Fred and
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Ginger story, and they're working on that experiment. And then
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: once they tell them they can't do that anymore, then
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: they change gears. But it's just that one comment they
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: make to each other, like, I'm not doing that anymore.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: And if you don't really pay attention to that, it's
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: like the next ten minutes of montage, you know, working
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: on stuff doesn't really make you like, what are they
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: doing now? I have a bad habit.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Of having, like, inner dialogues in my head. I focus
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: more on those than what's going on outside. I have
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: no idea what actually happened in the movie. Sometimes I'll just...
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: Elephants are stealing.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: That's true.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: I yell at Jay a lot in my head sometimes.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Poor Jay.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: We have entire arguments in my head sometimes that he
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: has no clue about, and then I make him apologize
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: for them later.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Speaking of social experiments, we have one sitting right here
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: with us.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: And usually he does.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he knows it's just easier at that point.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Or if I have dreams. Like, I had a dream
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: that me and him had a fight and he was
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: going to leave me. So I made him apologize.
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: That's just a guy who understands relationships. You have to
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: give Jay credit.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I love my boyfriend.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: He's the best boyfriend in the whole world.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: He puts up with my crazy shit.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: I second that.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: You think he's.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: The best boyfriend ever? From my standpoint, yeah, he kind
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: of is. I don't come in contact with many useful relationships,
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: so you guys are number one in my book.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: We are pretty awesome.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: The fact that you hold it together is pretty damn awesome.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: He's been pitting ahead a lot.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: And that's why he's okay with dealing with your craziness.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: We both got too much shit to have to move again.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: That's true. As we went last week, looking at your
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: toys and a similage of stuff. Yeah. I don't want
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: to move if I were you either.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: That and my Corey picture is signed to Jay and Misty. Oh, God.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: What were you thinking there?
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: He made me.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Feel bad because when I got to film... poster, I
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: had it signed to just Misty. He gave me a
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: bunch of crap about that.
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: Bill Moseley signed, screw you, Jay, to Misty. Oh, Lord.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: So back to the third stage here. So we enter
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: the third part of the movie where it really takes
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: a much more sensationalized tone. It is very much a
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: monster movie at that point. Monster match.
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: The dragon pulls a chastity bono.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, she does. She changes her mind. That happens.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: But a little bit less bloaty.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's pretty stout. Oh, God.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I... I still like that. Again, I ended
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: up liking the movie a lot more than... I really
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: went in... Having seen that trailer the first time, expecting
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: to think it was a rip-off and not like the story,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: and I was probably just going to watch it because
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: I knew Sarah Polly was in it. Having watched it,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: I was like, I actually like the story. I think
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: it's a lot of fun. Again, you can't take a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: lot of it too seriously, but if you look at it,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: you can find serious things going on within it. I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: think what ends up saving it, and probably for most people, is...
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: the sensationalization of it it it never really goes because
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: you can take something as serious and science-based as what
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: they're doing here and make it like an indie movie
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: and make it super high you know very cerebral and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: have them sit around and talk about you know the
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: theory of what they're doing all the time and it
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: could get boring and they never cross that line it
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: always reverts back to being a horror movie for a
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: second you know anytime it goes down that road it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: changes gears and goes back to being a horror movie
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: for a second. And by the end of it, it
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: definitely becomes a horror movie. And I think that's what
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: it is. It leaves the science behind and becomes very
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: Weekly World news. And it becomes, you know, Batboy is
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: attacking people.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: I would have never classified it as a horror movie
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: at any point. I would have left it in the
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: sci-fi category.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it definitely crosses a lot of lines.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: To me, it's almost a suspense movie. For a good
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: portion of it.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: I would not call it a horror movie. At least
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: in what my classifications of horror movies are, I would never,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: It has moments that are. But, I mean, well, you know,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: sci-fi and horror cross over a lot. I mean, that's
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: a very gray area in the middle there, where a
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: lot of sci-fi has moments of horror, and a lot
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: of horror works in weird stuff that's probably science fiction.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what Frankenstein was from the get-go. I mean,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: it's technically the first science fiction story, even though it's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: really a horror. I mean, it's... blurring that line from
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: day one. It's like it always was sort of a
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: weird crossover between horror and science fiction. So this is
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: definitely one of those, but it also, I mean, I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: think it's got a lot of scenes that just play
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: like a creepy suspense movie. And I was noticing how
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: much the music makes that. I think the music is
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: done really well in this, and I think so much
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: of it is because of that. Like, I think if
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: you took out the music track, this would be a
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: very different movie. Like, it would be a very different tone.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: I think everything about it that's creepy and suspenseful, a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: lot of it is the music. It always kicks in
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: at the right moment. It always is working the right
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: build-up to the scene. It always works in the little
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: cheapy ploys of the jump scare kind of moment, even
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: when it's not totally a jump scare. Just when it
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: knows that you're expecting that, it kind of works in
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: the little sharp movements in the music. I think that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: is definitely what kind of steps it up a notch
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: as far as being and almost being a horror movie
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: is I think the music really heavily kind of works
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: that angle and makes it more of that type of movie.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: I like at the end she was basically just a gargoyle.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: Or he. Technically at that point he.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: He was basically a big stinking gargoyle.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: I hate gargoyles.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Kind of.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: Why do you hate gargoyles? Well, didn't you see Hunchback?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, they're just fun creatures and you can have adventures.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Dren's up there.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Probably.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: And it can.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: It's going to impregnate you. No matter which gender you are,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: Dren can take care of you.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: That just seemed, that seemed really disturbing to me.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the other thing. I mean, I, I,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: once again, once, once he came up out of the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: water and gave her that look, I was like, oh shit,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: that's your ass. I was like, he's coming after you.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: And I know what he wants to, once again, it,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: it very kind of realistically plays on that animalistic instinct of, okay,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: I've hit that point. I'm in heat. I'm going to
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: mate with something. You're here. You know, it's like. A
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: lot of animal sex is like that. None of it
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: is ever really.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: A lot of human sex is like that.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: What are you talking about? Not well-adjusted human sex. Humans
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: have that level of where they can actually go into
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 4: it knowingly.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Animals.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: Most of it, it seems like, is very non-consensual. And
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: that's kind of scary when you think about it. Just
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: a lot about an animal. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: enters into that. So, I mean, I don't know how
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: you could have it any other way. But once again,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: I assumed he was going to go for that and
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: maybe Adrian would come up and save her. No, it
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: crosses that line. Like, very quickly, I'm like, oh, okay.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Let's see, what did you refer to it as? Mutant rape?
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: I was like, ah, no, mutant rape. Stop, please.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: Stop.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: You're raping me with your mutant tail.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: I don't think he was using the tail. Anyway, he
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: just disrobed her with the tail, which that's kind of handy,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: I'm like, that's kind of nice of him.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get into the main spoiler. I
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: wonder if she, like, because you know she hesitated for
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: a really long time before she smashed his head in.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: She waited long enough for him to kill Adrian Brody's character.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: I wonder if that's kind of on purpose. I wonder
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: if she was still kind of pissed.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: I think she was even at that point.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they both had sex with the same creature.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: She wasn't, like, fighting it when he was, like, mutant
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: raping her. She was just like, oh, oh.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: She made weird facial features. She started to look like
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: one of the vampires from Buffy for a while. She
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: looked like Drew's, uh, what was her name?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: What was Joey Benz's?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Darla?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: She's like Darla a couple times. I saw a girl
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: that actually looks like that on the internet. I saw
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: a picture, I swear, she had the brow going. I
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I think she's a vampire.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: There's this girl at work who has the lip that
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: reminds me of the episode of The Twilight Zone where
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: they're in the eye of the beholder.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: I just saw that one. During the wrestling weekend, I
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: sent my email, by the way. So everybody else join in.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Side note.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: I have a whole area where the girl's face is
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: wrapped up the whole time.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: And everyone's like pigs.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: They're kind of pig looking, yeah.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: But they have these big lips that are kind of
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: like that. Actually, she's more like the character from the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: masks episode. Her lip is just big.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: I think I know what girl you're... I think I
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: know her.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: You know people with EPS?
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, I think I know what girl you're
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: talking about.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: In real life?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: In real life.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: Don't tell her I said that thing.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: I won't.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: If it's who I'm thinking of, she like... Went to
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: school with me and I was just like.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: What is wrong with her? First I thought she just
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: had a bad collagen injection or something, but then it
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: stayed that way for like a year. And it's still
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: that way. I shouldn't say that. I don't know. She
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: could be a nice person. A mean person.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Where were we?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Let Adrian die on purpose.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: I think. To me, and again, this is all how
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: you read it, there's a lot of ways that you
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: can take a lot of what's going on in this movie.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: I saw it more as that second of this is
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: my child. I mean, there's still that, this is this
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: thing that I created, and I have to kill it now,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: and there was that moment of hesitation of, do I.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: She was ready to cut it up earlier, go ahead
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: and cut it up now, smash its head in, it
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: done raped your ass, come on.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: At that point, you would think she would have a
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: little more, a little more reason to want to take
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: it out, but.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Unless she liked it.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: I don't think.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: She did like it, though, because she was all like,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: she didn't put up a fight, I'm sorry, she did
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: not put up a fight.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: I'm glad it's you two saying this, because I think
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: it's creepy.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not condoning it.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: Bitch didn't put up a fight.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: And I mean, like.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, God. I'm just joking.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: I'm not advocating rape.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we here at Movie Meltdown do not go along...
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: Or I personally do not condone any of the thoughts
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: of the other cast members here.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: I had no idea.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: Just because they didn't say no doesn't mean it's okay.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: God, I'm... You all are going to turn us around.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: I'm going to get paid now.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: I don't care.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: Once again, I'm just glad you guys said that.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: It's a pretty red bird. I'm just trying to change
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: the subject. But there really is a pretty red bird outside.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: So, anyway. I don't know.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get hate mail about this. I'm
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: just joking. I know everybody's going to take it serious.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: It's not a serious matter.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: Rape is not a laughing matter.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: Well, that's why I was creeped out by it. Like,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: it really is. Like, it's a weird rape scene. And
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: then on top of that, you've got the fact that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like her kid doing it.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: And it's a mutant.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: And it's sort of her doing it. I mean, what
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: happens when your own DNA mixes with you? I mean,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: it's like... Are you going to cause the universe to
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: collapse upon itself? Like dividing by zero? I think so.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: I think it makes the E on the calculator. The
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: universe is going to shut down when you have sex
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: with yourself. I'm sorry. I don't know.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: So, yeah.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, the whole thing is a weird, creepy territory
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: there that enters into a lot of weird questions. If
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: we want to jump to the final scene, you guys
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: both called it. I think I just turned my brain
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: off and tried not to think too far ahead on
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: the plot, so I really didn't see it coming.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, I totally did.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: When she backed up from the table, I was like, oh, okay,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: we've gone to a whole new level of creepy.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: No, not me. As soon as he raped her, I'm like, oh,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: she's pregnant right now.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: Before that even happened, I knew she was gonna the
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: movie was gonna end with her being pregnant like like
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: from the very beginning when he was like talking to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: her about having kids and then they were she and
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: uh her boyfriend were like doing it on the couch
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: and she's like what's the worst thing that.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Could happen well let me tell you.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah at first i kind of thought that he was
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: gonna get dren pregnant and she's going to have little
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: alien babies.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: I thought that too.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: When we were going back into the building looking for
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: her after they talked, I thought, oh, God, it's going
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: to be like a whole little herd of little alien babies.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: I thought when she was sick, when they laid her down,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: I thought, is she pregnant? And she's about ready to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: have a litter of some sort. So, yeah, I kind
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: of had that thought at least the first time around. But, yeah,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: I didn't really think that far ahead once they were–
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: I think I was still in shock over the mutant rape.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: I was just like– it was creeped out by it.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: I didn't think that far ahead.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Rape is never okay, even by mutants.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: Especially by mutants.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: What makes it better if it's a regular person?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: I don't think it makes it better at all. I
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: don't think there's any better.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: It's like tails.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Some do. They have nubs. Some people have tails. I've
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: seen pictures on the internet.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 5: They do.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: I know somebody who claims that they had one and
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: had it removed.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: Who?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: I don't believe it.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Who?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: He's a liar, if ever. And I tell him that
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: all the time.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: Was it Patrick?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: No, but he probably would, actually.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: Patrick would have kept it.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: He would have kept it. Oh, let's see. So, I
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: don't know. It's a weird wrap-up. It's definitely very... That's
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. The whole end is like Weekly World News.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: It's just like Batboy attacks family.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: I'm having.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: Batboy breaks family. I'm having Batboy's child. I mean, it
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: really is... It becomes very silly and over the top,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: but at the same time fun. Like, again, I enjoyed it.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: I know it's ridiculous, but I still enjoyed it.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: The end where her boss lady puts her arm on
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: her shoulders and it goes dark and they're staring out
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 5: the window.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: And you hear the.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I feel like that's supposed to mean something,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 5: but it really doesn't. It's just like really.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: I just thought.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: Like this hard-hitting scene where you're like, oh, damn. But
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's really... It doesn't have any meaning.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: Well, the boss I thought was just creepy. Well, it
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: just didn't... Again, it didn't fit her character. It's like
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: she'd been cold the entire rest of the movie. She
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: could have cared less about the two of them, period. Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: So now, just because the money is tied up in
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: her stomach that she's going to become like a mother?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: Like all of a sudden, she's got this maternal thing
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: and she's standing there like, I'll see you through it, honey,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: don't worry.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: You don't have to go through with this.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all of a sudden she seemed like she cared.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: I'm like, when did, like, we've only seen her a
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: few scenes, but she's a horrible person in every one
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: of those. So why all of a sudden? Most people
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: in this movie are horrible people. Kind of, yeah. I mean,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: even his brother sells him out. Like, I mean, we
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: don't really have anybody that's like, you know, Dren's the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: only good character we have, and even she becomes pretty evil.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: Because they made her that way. Because, yeah, she's the
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: only one you kind of like as it goes on, so.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: And even then she becomes a horrible mutant rapist. So
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: you can't like anybody in this movie. But somehow I
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: still ended up liking the whole experience. Does that make you.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: A horrible person?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: Because almost everyone died.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I realized I was a horrible person
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: a long time ago. Was there going to be a sequel?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: I was thinking that when you guys were like, now what,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: she's going to have the baby bust out of her stomach.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: I was like, that's in the sequel. Once it's... fights
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: its way out of it and they probably they don't
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: have to worry about being able to afford to get
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: sara polly to come back to the straight to dvd
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: sequel because they can just have her die in childbirth
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: as it busts out of her and then the whole
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: rest of it can be a bad straight to dvd sequel.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: I mean how much would you have to pay sara
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: polly anyway i don't.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: Know if i can raise it i'll have her come
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: over and like hang out in the kitchen no.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying i mean it's not like She's an
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 5: A-list or anything.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: But this is still theatrical. I mean, how often are
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: they able to get back the same full cast? Granted,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: they killed off most of them in this one, but
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: usually you get a bad straight-to-DVD replacement.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: Rose McGowan?
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: Ah, slam. Take that, Rose McGowan. I don't even know
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: why I said Rose McGowan.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: I was thinking Devil in the Flesh, but she was
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: in the original Devil in the Flesh. Who was in
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: the second one?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I was trying to think what the
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: straight-to-DVD casting would be on the sequel. I'm like, so
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: the sequel would be Jenny Garth. That's who they could
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: get to. That's like the next step down in the
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: straight-to-DVD casting on your price point. She's recognizable. She's got
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: a name. We can slap it on the box.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: No, that wouldn't work.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see the sequel. That's all I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: have to say. And again, not if they don't get
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: the same director back, because I do want to give
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: him credit. He is Vincenzo Natalia, and he's actually the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: guy who did Cube. That's his most well-regarded. Everybody kind
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: of liked that. That was another really smart way to
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: make an independent film and make good use of the
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: fact that you don't have a whole lot of money.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: So he's kind of smart in the way that he directs,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: and I think... Here, I think he does a really
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: good job. I think everything visually, again, almost in the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: first half, it's almost more creative. It's like he does
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of really cool shots, like a lot of
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: the stark white hallways in the science center there. It's
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: like that stuff's all pretty cool and has a really
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: good visual look to it. He does that weird sweeping,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: like almost 360 shot of her around the tank at
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: the beginning. That's really cool. I really like that one.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: So There's the weird POV shot of the creature from
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: the very beginning, the little mutant thing coming out. That's
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: all done kind of cool. So I think he's very
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: creative in the way he shoots stuff. So I definitely
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: want to see where he ends up going after this.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: He's made a lot of stuff, a lot of which
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: hasn't made it over here. He's actually born in Detroit,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: but everybody assumes that he's Canadian. He still works a
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: lot out of Canada. So I think a lot of
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: stuff he's made hasn't even made it to the United States.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: So I kind of want to see If he gets
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: picked up and where he ends up going once he
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: gets bigger projects. Any thoughts on direction?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: Nice.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: Performances? I thought they both did a really good job.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: They were alright. I just had a problem with her face.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: Well, again, that's not acting. That's genetics.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know. She just... I don't know. They just
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: didn't seem believable as a couple to me as far
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: as their interactions.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't have any... chemistry as far as, like,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: a couple goes.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: They were also both dorks, so... Yeah, but.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: They are dorks, but we, you know.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: We're a different level of dorks.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, until, like, she was sitting on his lap,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, so I guess.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: They're a couple?
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't... That's another thing in the beginning they
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: didn't really make use of. They didn't insert enough in there, because, yeah,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: up until that point, once they've already, like, gone through...
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, the first 15 minutes or so, I was like,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: so did they just work.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: Together, and Have a brother and sister.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they really, well, it's the same thing with the brother.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't realize he was the brother until he was
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: already in there. He goes, oh, I gotta go talk
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: to my brother. I was like, oh, that's, I think
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: at one point he calls him like bro or something,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: but I was just like, that's not enough, really. You're
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: gonna have to, you know, some of these things.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: They had similar stupid haircuts.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, almost too similar. Like, who wants to look that
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: much like their sibling? Nobody does, so it's, yeah, it
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: was just a weird, there's a few things that just
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: in the writing, I think they could have made a
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: little more clear, or maybe editing, but There's a few
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: things in the beginning that should have been tightened up
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: a little, probably. But, I don't know. In the end,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: I still thought it was pretty fun.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: And she was a scientist. Why couldn't she have had
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: a better car?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: Was that a Gremlin? What was that?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they worked in some fucking shanky.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: A Pinto?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: It looked kind of like the Mirth Moby.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, they worked in some janky fucking science lab.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, it had the most high-tech equipment, but they
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: lived in a fucking studio apartment and drove a shitty car.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: They clearly were not working for the right company.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: Maybe they were just trying to be cool. It was
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: their whole, like, you know, trendy attitude.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: You can still be trendy and have a lot of money.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: Well, they were looking, I mean, that apartment they were
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: looking at looked super high-end, so.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: What apartment they were looking at?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: Well, she was showing them on the website or something.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, I don't even remember that scene at all.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: That's because you weren't paying attention.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: I guess.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Or you have an inner dialogue, too.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: Were you working with somebody? But that one looked like,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, that one looked like a really high-end place.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: I assumed that they were just, like, I don't know, lazy?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, like they said, they'd been there for seven years,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: and he didn't want to move, so I don't know,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: maybe they were just stockpiling cash. I don't know why
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: they wouldn't have bought a better.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: Car, though. She wouldn't have spent it on makeup, I'll
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: tell you that right now. Or clothes.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: No, they were all spending it on those super fancy, like,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: $ 20 a pop t-shirts. That's what they were buying. They
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: all had, like, trendy t-shirts. Every time you saw, especially Adrian,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: every time you saw him, he had some crazy, trendy, cool,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: bought-it-at-the-mall t-shirts. So it was funny how much they tried
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: to make them, like, trendy like you didn't want them
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: to be these guys are let's.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: See how did they report you they're not your average
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: scientist they're rebellious scientists.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah so i think that was kind of funny like
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: very orchestrated everything about them was very you know look
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: they've got all these super high-end japanese toys in their
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: apartment they're cool so i mean one of those toys
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: they had you did you're one of those cool trendy
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: people look at you I.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: Guess he just did not pay that much attention to
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: this movie.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: I think even the cool artwork, you know, which was cool,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: I'll give them, but everything about it was like, these
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: aren't your typical scientists. You know, they were trying very
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: hard to make them cool, and, you know.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: It's hard to make.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Adrian Murray and Sarah Pauly cool.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: Neither of them have ever been, like, the cool kids.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 4: They've always been sort of on the outside. They were
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: always the dorks in the class, so. I guess this
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: is their chance to be like, no, now we're scientists
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: and we're cool, which she isn't really. Even they were nerds, though.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: It said so right on the building. All right, so
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: to wrap up, do you think there's any sort of message?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Don't have sex with creeps. Don't genetically engineer children.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: In a lab for yourself.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, was it trying to... Because there's very... That's
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: what leads to this situation. If they just would have
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: let them do these science experiments, they wouldn't be under wraps.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: They wouldn't have been screwing things up. So there definitely
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: is a very political agenda to DNA testing. Is this
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 4: movie trying to say anything along those lines?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: If you go around trying to play God, you're going
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: to end up getting screwed.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: I think that's... I mean, it really ties more... My
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: take on it is no. I think it really is
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: just playing... It's sort of playing that. It's using that
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: situation in society to play it so that they can
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: turn it into a cheesy horror movie.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: If this movie wanted to have a conservative message in
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: the end.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: They probably would have left out the mutant rape part.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: Just saying.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: But she didn't abort the baby, so, you know, you
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: never know. They're working both sides on every one of these. So,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it's, I don't think it does.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's definitely people who could try to pretend
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: like it does. But to me, it always plays the
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: sensation card every time. It definitely vamps up the cheesiness.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: plays the horror angle when it needs to, plays the
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: sci-fi when it needs to. So I think it's really
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: just using that as a way to make a big, dumb,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: fun movie. And I think in the end, that's more
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: of what I got out of it, was just the big, crazy,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: over-the-top science nerd movie. So if there is anything to
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: take from it, I think it does play back. And
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: this is all the way back to the Frankenstein theme.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: It is the playing God. It's like if you're messing
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: with science, you're messing with the rules of nature... It's
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: going to come back and bite you in the ass.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: Damn nature, you scary.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: It's going to come back and kill you. It's going
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: to come back and mutant rape you. It's going to
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: come back and have sex with you or mutant rape
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: your girlfriend or kill you or impregnate you. There's many
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: horrible things that come from plain God. Stop it, science nerds.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: All right. I guess that wraps up Splice.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm wrapping it all up.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, we'll take a break here, and when we come back,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: we will have Jay do his rant for the week.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: What's the worst that could happen?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: Do you hear it?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: It's getting closer.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Much closer. Don't be afraid. Be very, very afraid. I've got.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 7: A message for you.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: Pray for death.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 9: I'm Gray. Take a journey with me through the dark
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 9: side of cinema in the Dark Hours Horror Podcast. Find
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 9: it at thedarkhours.net. The Dark Hours.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: Terror has no shape.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: It's far beyond anything your mind could ever conceive. It's
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: part of your problem, you know.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 7: You haven't seen enough movies.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: And now, on with the show.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: I like you. You're so special.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 8: Just close your eyes, let me hypnotize you I can
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 8: make your storm feel sky blue Girl, when you're lost,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 8: you know I'll find you If I'm not beside you, I'm.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 9: Behind you Imagine you're on the beach.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: And you're lost.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 8: Alright, we are back and Jay has joined us.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: He didn't get to do his, we'll.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Call it a.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: Officially geek activities, but really I'm pretty sure it's going
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: to be a rant, so go ahead.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: We'll start off with a not-so-much rant. We watched Mega Piranha,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 3: and I wanted Jay to be here with me because
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: he was so very disappointed when I got Piranha in
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: the mail.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to see Piranha. I wanted to see
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Mega Piranha.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: So we looked on Netflix, and it was available to
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: watch it now. I'm not sure why he wanted to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: watch Mega Piranha instead of Piranha, which don't get me wrong.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: It said Tiffany in it.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: You don't even like Tiffany.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: No, but I still wanted.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: To see her. why?
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: Because it looks from the if she gets eaten I'd
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: want to see that from the trailers that.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I saw on YouTube it looked so awesomely horribly bad
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: I wanted to see it I wanted to see that
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: whatever that name of that one guy is the Z
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: list actor kick the shit.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: Out of he's like bicycle kicking piranhas yeah he.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Did the Liu Kang kick on these little piranhas you
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: know they weren't really little they were I don't.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: Know they were giant mutant piranhas they.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Looked like they were cut out of paper you know
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: It was sci-fi, I mean. It was sci-fi. It was
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: the cheapest sci-fi graphics you could possibly even think of.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: No, the fish were better than the helicopters.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, the helicopters were pretty bad. The helicopters did
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: look like they were on sticks, and somebody just, somebody
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: had the film, and somebody just had, like, helicopters on sticks,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: and then, and then flew them in there, and, yeah,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: it looked awful.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: Nice. There was quite a bit of, there was some blood, though,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: that was pretty exciting. There was some, some deaths, and
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: some gruesomes, and.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A couple heads get chewed off, and. aside from
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: the suicide fish that somehow launched themselves out of the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: water into the side of buildings for no apparent reason.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: That's a great plan they got there.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll just, you know, they were. They kamikazed these
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: houses and stuff. I don't know why, they just do. Apparently,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Piranha can now take down entire battleships.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: They can eat battleships.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: They can eat through metal.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: Metal, you know, whatever. Wood, metal, people, who cares?
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was unbelievable.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: It had the worst acting I've ever seen in a movie.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: Oh that acting is great sci-fi that's really all you
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: have to say I kept waiting for him to slap
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: the shit out of Tiffany when she starts going nuts
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: she goes ballistic I wish somebody would yeah but.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: It also had it had I can't think of his
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: name right Brady he had Greg Brady whichever oh god
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: but his character in Mega Piranha his name was Bob
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: Grady Bob.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: Grady yeah they're so clever on that sci-fi channel yeah.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: And that was horrible It was, this whole movie was
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: just horrible.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Uh, what was, uh, the, the Nerf guns.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: At the end of the movie when they're, they have
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: all these big, they're big weapons, they're black guns that
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: they're going to use to take down all these things.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a 20 millimeter, come on, really, really 20 millimeter?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: You know how big 20 millimeters is? It's bigger than
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: that damn gun, I'll tell you that. Nerf guns, spray painted, black.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: They couldn't even like take Nerf off of there.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: You can still see where it said Nerf on there.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: Was it firing darts at some point?
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: No, but they were trying to make, they were trying
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: to convince you that this was some kind of super,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: what did they say? that each gun could give the
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: guy a capability of taking down a nuclear submarine.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure no gun's going to do that.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: Well, it was underwater.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: Piranhas that can survive a nuclear blast.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, none of these guys look like Navy SEALs.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: No, they never do.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: I think there were guys that looked more qualified to
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: be in Navy SEALs on my swim team at school,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: and I wasn't even on the swim team. But, I mean,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: those kids look more qualified to be SEALs. These guys
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: just look like... people they grabbed out of the coffee
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: house and said, here, put this black suit on, pretend
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: you're a Navy SEAL.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: How about the car chase? That was your favorite part.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: The car chase where they change cars?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: You know, he's driving and he's trying to get away.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: He's in a Toyota Camry and then it turns into
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: a Hyundai and then it turns into, I.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: Think, a Kia. Like he doesn't get out at any point.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: It just magically transforms.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: They use different cars for different shots.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: At least his car was the same color.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: It was the same color.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: The one chasing him changed color and vehicle type.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it changed color and vehicle type. So it went
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: from like a Ford Explorer to like, I don't know
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: if it was a Nissan or... A green.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: Green.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I kind of got confused for a second.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, is it the same guy chasing him?
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: It's a truck, but I don't know if it's the
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: same guy. But apparently it was. It was the same guy.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they, I don't know why they had to
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: change vehicles for chase scenes. Why they didn't use the
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: same kind of vehicle for it. chase scenes i think
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: it was probably people that worked on the set they
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: were like hey uh okay who's got a gray car
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: we need three gray cars all right yeah okay who's
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: got a truck and that's pretty much what they did
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think they had hardly any budget for this
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: film at all, judging from special effects.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: I like how towards the end, when they're underwater, when
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: they have their mouthpieces in, yet they're having clear conversations.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they got communicators in their mouthpieces. You didn't
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: know that?
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: But if you're not going to be able to have
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: a clear conversation.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were having pretty damn clear conversations.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 4: Was it also using telepathy, maybe?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out how this guy flies
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: from Venezuela all the way up to the Florida Keys
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: in a damn helicopter and never has to refuel. He
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: just happens to know where they are.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: Or how you can fly a helicopter with oxygen.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. What the fuck? They're running out of gas. So, magically, Tiffany,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: being the.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: Science genius?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: Being the microbiologist that she is, or whatever she is,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: a marine biologist somehow knows how to power a helicopter
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: with a CO2 cartridge or something. Oxygen tank. Little oxygen
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: tank like this. He's like, we're running out of fuel.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: They hit our fuel line. She's like, uh... I'll find
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: something that we can use for fuel. So, yeah, she
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: finds this little oxygen tank. And, of course, Tiffany, because
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: she's the mega scientist, just happens to know where the
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: fuel line is on a fucking Black Hawk helicopter. Pulls
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: the panel away and somehow magically attaches the bottle to
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: it and gives it, like, turbo boost.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: Makes it go faster.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Makes it go faster. And he can fly the helicopter
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: for a couple extra miles while he's running out of.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: Gas, you know.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: Well, I think all marine biologists are trained in helicopter
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: mechanics and fuel lines. And, yeah, I think that's one
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: of the main things they focus on in marine biology. Yeah, really.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: You know, no other scientists figure this out. She just
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: happened to know how to do it.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: Well, she's Tiffany.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's Tiffany. And then what is that, the tracking
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: device that they've got is actually a CO2 cartridge. It
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: looks like the little CO2 cartridges that you put in
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: little BB pistons.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: Your BB gun.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's supposed to be a special I'm food attracting thing.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: And I actually read a thing on Netflix, the reviews,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: because I like going back if I see a horrible
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: movie and reading the reviews on it because I like
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: the things that crack me up reading other people's opinions
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: on it. But somebody else actually came up with a
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: better ending for the movie.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: Because the one that had sucked. It made it. It
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 3: was beyond retarded.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: Absolutely no sense.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: Spoiler alert.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Spoiler alert.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: For a horrible ending?
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: For a horrible ending, yeah.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: Should we tell them how the movie ends first?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead and tell them how it ends.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: Alright, their big plan is that they want to make
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: one of the fish bleed, thus causing a feeding frenzy
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: where they will all then in turn eat each other.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: Sure, good idea.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: And that's the girl solves everything. I'm like, in my head,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: wouldn't there be at least one left? And according to
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: the movie, they can reproduce on their own without.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're asexual.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: They're asexual, they can reproduce on their own, so if
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: that's your plan, wouldn't there be at least one fish
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: left who can then.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: Well, even at the end of the movie, they show
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: all the fish, but they're only eating one fish. They
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: don't eat each other, because.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: The others aren't bleeding. Yeah, the others aren't bleeding.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: They're only eating one fish. And they're like, oh, we
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: solved the problem.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: Yay!
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, how did you solve the problem? There's
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: still like 20 fish down there. But it's okay.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: We took out one. Yay!
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: But then somebody suggested on Netflix, which would have been
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: a better ending, they were like, what I thought he
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: was going to do was I thought he was going
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: to take the food transmitter thing and shoot it into
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: the fish's mouth. They would eat that fish, and then
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: in turn that would be inside of another fish, and
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: that fish would get eaten, and then so on and
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: so forth.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: But still there'd be one fish left.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: Still. And then you just have to kill that fish?
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 4: Then they catch it, and they save that for the sequel.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: They put it in Christopher Lloyd's fish tank.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: It ended with Macho Man kissing Tiffany on the mouth.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: Which is the most unbelievable part of this entire story. Really? Like, dude,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: there's no way Porkin's right there is going to be
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: getting kissed by some almost hot Navy guy. It's not
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: going to happen.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: The only thing that I guess saved the Navy guy
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: was his abs. Is that.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: What you're saying? I've been thinking, picturing the Playboy she
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: did like 10 years ago.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: That's what I was joking with her. She's like, how
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: could he kiss her? I was like, he's got the
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: Playboy from her, that Playboy spread in his trailer, and
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: he's working up to it every day. He's like, this
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: is what she used to look like. Just picture this.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: So when he goes to kiss her, he closes his eyes,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: and he's thinking of Playboy magazine, centerfold, centerfold, centerfold.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: She has not aged well.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: She used to be hot. She used to be hot.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: That wasn't even that long ago, though. What happened?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 4: Twinkies. I guess. A lot of twinkies. I mean, it's
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: not like she did the Playboy when she was Tiffany.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, it was 10, 12 years later when she
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: was on Hard Times. It was like, all right, how much? Yeah,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: it was like, what, 2001 she did it? Yeah, it
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: was way after she.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was still 10 years ago.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: I gotta say, Debbie Gibson's was way better.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: Well, because Debbie Gibson was always cute. Tiffany wasn't, and
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: Debbie Gibson actually aged well, where Tiffany didn't, so... I'm
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: ready for a.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: What's the one they're going to put out? Gatoroid versus.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: Something or other.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 6: Super Snake.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. Some other giant creature.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: I don't remember what the other one is. It's going
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: to be awesome.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: That's the one with both of them?
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, my God. They're fighting and wrestling about.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: It looks equally as bad. And I'll see it just
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: because I love crappy movies. I mean, you see some
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: people's reviews on this movie.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: And they'll be all upset.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: They take it way too serious.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't take this movie serious.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Cannot whatsoever. It's a stupid movie. It's got an X-level cast.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say B.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: Z-level? Z.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Z-level cast. The acting's horrible. The dialogue's cheesy.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: It's a sci-fi movie.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Suck ass. Like I said, most of the things look
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: like they're on strings or sticks.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: But it's fun if you let yourself enjoy it.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we enjoyed it. You enjoyed it, didn't you?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fucking riot.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: See, if you had fun with that, I think you
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: will actually like Piranha. I was impressed, because I think
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: Piranha is actually like... it comes off like a dumb movie,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: but really, it's a little better than that. Like, he knows,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: and he's kind of making fun of those dumb movies,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: so I think his is actually a little better put together,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: but yet it still works on that level. You still
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: can turn your brain off and just watch the bloodbath,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: and it's pretty awesome.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's some really bad TGI blood in this one.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. His was a lot of practical effects in
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: the new Piranha.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: This was horrible.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: This was, like, no practical effects. There was fish the
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: size of, like, Well, you.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Never could tell what size they were, because at one
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: point they're the size of fucking tractor trailers, and then
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: the next scene they're like the size of people, you know? Like,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: they show them launching themselves into these buildings. They look
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: like they're the size of missiles, you know? They're launching
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: out of the water, and then he's doing the Liu
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Kang kick on them, and they're only like, you know,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: they're the size of a seat cushion. You never can tell.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 4: No, I do need to watch it.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: They change size for what their needs are at that moment.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: Doesn't that happen in every sci-fi movie? Haven't we called
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 4: them out for that on Just About?
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: There's more blatant about it, though.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: Because Sharktopus did that, too. He was like, how big
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: is he? He's like a regular-sized shark. He's like the
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: size of a Buick. I mean, it's like.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just kind of depends.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: He grows.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: He shrinks.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: He's like one of those little he's like one of
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: those little foam things that you put in water.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 4: He starts as a capsule he's a magic.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 5: Girl creature no no not the capsules the ones that
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 5: are already the shape i like that they fill out rubbery.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: And weird i was talking about but yeah it was
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: a certain kind of special it was enjoyable as long
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: as you don't expect too much from.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: It yeah go in expecting to see a bad movie
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: and you'll be pleased.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: The more people you watch it with, the more fun
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: it will probably be.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: It turned into a drinking game. Every time somebody says Vamonos,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: because they say Vamonos a lot.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: That was another problem you had with it. The main guy,
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: what was he? He couldn't speak Spanish. Yeah.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: Dude, Special Forces. How is he a SEAL? Well, he's
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Special Forces. How are you Special Forces and you can't
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: fucking speak Spanish? All right?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: He spoke French.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: He spoke French. Yeah, bullshit. I tried to go out
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: for that shit. I tried to go out for Rangers,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: what I wanted to do. You've got to know how
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: to fucking speak a bunch of different languages. They're proficient
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: in that shit. You don't just speak, oh, I speak English.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: I can't speak Spanish. They speak American. Why the hell
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: do they specifically choose this guy out of everybody for
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: a job in South America? And you're going to send
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: the guy that can't speak Spanish? Are you kidding me?
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I speak French. They don't speak French. They
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: speak Spanish. We send this guy down there, and he
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what's going on. Half the time, there's subtitles
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: running through the bottom of the screen. They fucking introduced
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: everybody with that. Remember at the beginning of the movie? Oh,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: my God, at the beginning of the movie, everybody that
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: walks on scene, they do that quick black and white
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: freeze frame. You know, and it says their name.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: Like fucking Law and Order?
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: For everybody. Thank God.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: Make that fake typewriter noise. You know. For everybody.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 4: Everybody. Yeah. That's going to get all of them.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does, because it's every five seconds somebody pops
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: on screen, and it's like, da-da-da, da-da-da.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: And then they show you the same places a couple times,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: and they tell you it's new every time.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: We've already been there, Joe. Yeah, we were just here.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: We haven't left.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: What are you doing?
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what?
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: They show the river, and they show a scene in
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: the river, and it's like, you already told us it's
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: a river. It's the same damn river. It's the same
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: shot you showed us earlier. It's the same damn river.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: And they kept showing the same exact loops of film
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: over and over again. I think that's how I'm wrong
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: with the lupus. Am I the... Night of the Bunnies.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 4: Night of the Lepus.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Lepus.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: Night of the Lepus.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they would use stock photography, or they would
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: use footage of them bombing the river in a different
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: scene further out in the movie of the exact same scene.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: And you were like, dude, I just saw that scene
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the movie.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: And it was night when you showed it in the light,
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 3: In the daytime.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Well, no, they did the old thing where they shot
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: it during the daytime and then they put a filter
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: in front of it to make it look like it
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: was nighttime.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: It's on my channel. It's on my channel. Four dollars
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: to spend on a movie.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: Generous.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: Should we move on to your.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: Probably.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm worked up enough.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: Are you ready?
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Are you sure you're ready?
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think you're going to have
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: a lot of arguments on this one, because I haven't
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: heard anybody. I like it probably more than just about anybody,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: and I still think it's a terrible movie, but go ahead.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: Well, we talked about it, and I just brought it
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: up shortly at our meeting, and Johnny had said something
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: about he thought it was an enjoyable movie, and I
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: almost picked up a fork and stabbed him in the eye,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: because I told him it was the worst fucking movie
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 4: All right, let's name it.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Shit.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: Because that's what it is.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 5: Shit.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 4: What was your favorite part?
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: My favorite part?
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: The monkeys?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: The monkeys, yeah. Yeah, we called out every single thing
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: that happened in this damn movie. But, oh gosh, maybe
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: we should just start at the beginning. I think about
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: two minutes into the film I was already bored. You know,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of cool starting out.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 4: No, it wasn't.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, you're right, it wasn't. I was like you
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: know as soon as it started I was like oh
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: god this is gonna suck I didn't really want to
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: see it but I did because everybody else said it
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: was horrible and I didn't want to I didn't want
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: to ruin the idea that I had of Indiana Jones
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: I mean I loved Indiana Jones as a kid me
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: too it was one of the greatest series of movies
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: I think that has ever come out and it got
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: into shit that I liked you know I knew not
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: every archaeologist was a bullwhip carrying pistol slinging Nazi fighter
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: yeah But I liked archaeology as a kid. I mean,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of kids, I'm sure, liked it. But this
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: just sucked. I was like, what the fuck? I knew
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: it was going to suck.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: I knew.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people told me to stay away
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: from it, Randy. But I didn't listen. I had to
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: see it for myself because I'm a glutton for punishment.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: I need something to bitch about.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: That's usually how I am. I have to witness how
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: bad they are sometimes. Oh, yeah.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: It was bad.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: It was bad.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: First of all, Harrison Ford, old as fuck. Oh, my God.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: I felt so bad seeing it.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 4: It's like.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I never wanted to see it. It's like your
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: childhood hero, and you see him, and he's just broken
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: down and decrepit and got spiderwebs coming out of his ears,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: and you're just like, fuck, man, this guy's old. What
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: happened to him? You have this image.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 3: He married Calista Flopper.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happened to him. Sucked the life out
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: of him.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: But... She's a sucky boss.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: You.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: You had that image of Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: and that's the image that's always stayed in your head.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: It's still the image that's in my head. I was like,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to watch this movie, and I'm going to
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: pretend like it doesn't exist because I know it's going
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: to suck. I'm not going to let this alter my
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: image of this character. So, yeah, starting off. Oh, wow,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: they're fighting the Russians now. Russians, not as interesting as Nazis,
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: not as evil. Nazis seem a little bit more evil
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: than Russians. Yeah, I guess the Russians have done some
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: pretty horrible things. You know, who hasn't?
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: But that's... They got demonized almost as much by the
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: time you hit the 80s. We built them up almost
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: as much, but really, yeah, I mean, there's a lot
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: more creepy, weird backstory to the Nazis that Russians are
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: just Russians.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Russians are just Russians. The Russians weren't doing...
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, they probably were at some point, but.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: They weren't making crazy occult experiments, and they weren't taking
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: people's brains out and trying to turn them into super
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: beings and weird shit like that.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: They were just communists, and that's why we hated them.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: That was our only reason.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Who's a communist? So, I mean, it digs into that
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: whole kind of McCarthyism type thing. Who's a communist? We
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: can't trust this guy. We can't trust that guy.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: But, you know....
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, in a way, that was kind of interesting,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: but in a way, it wasn't. I just didn't care.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't care that Indy was now in... When was
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: this movie based? In 1960?
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: Like early 60s? Late 50s. Late 50s, early 60s.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: He was by Shia LaBeouf in his damn fucking hat.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 6: You know what?
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 4: The wild one, yeah.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: You're no fucking Marlon Brando.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 4: He thinks he is.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what? Greasers don't comb their hair every
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: five minutes, all right? Then don't worry about that. I
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: don't comb my hair every five minutes, all right? You know,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of shit in my hair most
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: of the time. But, yeah, it seemed like it was
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: just an excuse. I think somebody told him during that movie, look, okay,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: here's what you got to do. You got to comb
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: your hair. Every scene you get, comb your hair, comb
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: your hair. You know, it gets a little redundant. But, yeah,
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: you know, ah.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: The point of no return for me was the refrigerator.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: The refrigerator?
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: That's right off the bat.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: Can you hide in a refrigerator and survive a nuclear attack?
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Yes, you can.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: People, old man, you know it's going to be fucking
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: breaking every bone in the.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: Old man's people of the body. I still think that
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 4: seems funny. I'm sorry. I was like, yes, the refrigerator.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: He tumbles about and gets out and he's just fine. No,
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: old geezer's going to break a hip.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: Because he's indie.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: He's standing there and of course he's gonna get misty's
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: like he's gonna die from the fallout what the hell
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: you know nope they take care of that next scene
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: they're scrubbing old naked.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: He's shirtless oh my god.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: He's not only shirtless he's pantless too he was naked
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: i blocked that out you blocked it out they're scrubbing.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: Him down like hot old indiana jones yeah.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: I think i don't want to tell me that like
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 3: 30 years ago maybe i don't want to see that shit.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: Now but apparently he was a Indiana Jones was a
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: secret agent at one point. I'm like, you know what?
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: Save the secret agent shit for James Bond. I want
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Indiana Jones archaeologist. I want him swinging from fucking vines.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: No, we get that, but it's not from him.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: Well, I kind of like that angle, but it's like,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: we already saw it. That's what was kind of cool
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: with the TV series that they did, is he had
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: all these other points in his life, and he did
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 4: all these other things, so I almost wouldn't mind that
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: there was this stint where he worked for the government
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: and this other chapter, but I don't know, they just
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 4: don't do anything with it in this way. Yeah.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't know.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 4: I didn't care.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I wanted to, if you're going to do that,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: then just do a movie based on Indiana Jones, you know,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: hooking up and working with the OSS or something like that,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: you know, something cool, working with the British Secret Service
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: during World War II, you know, that would be cool,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: but just hinting to it and then not really getting
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: into it, you know, fuck, why even bring it up?
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: Jeez.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: Very nice.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Prairie dogs? Yeah, really. Prairie dogs in this movie. Constantly.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: In the beginning of the film. Like it's some kind
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: of campy goofiness. Like, ha ha, there's a prairie dog.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: It pops up.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: It's gone.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, what is this? Caddyshack?
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: You know? What the fuck? Yes. Why didn't they work the... Yeah,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: I mean... That would be awesome. The little pupples started dancing. Jeez.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: There were so many things in this movie that were
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: happening that were just like.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: It was like, let's take Indiana Jones and make it
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: fun for the family. you know there are no monkey
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: brains there are no people getting their faces melted off
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: uh it's very family friendly yeah it's too.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: Family friendly it's it's a lot more watered down than
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 4: it used to be.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: It is my kid was like i like that movie
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: and then we saw like we saw uh temple of
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: doom i was like which do you like better you
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: like temple of doom i like temple of doom better
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: yeah you should because we all do it's fucking awesome
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: yeah But, uh, I don't know. We haven't sat down
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: and watched Raiders of the Lost Ark, so I don't
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: think she's seen that one yet.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: But, uh....
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's... Could it be Armitardin? You know, I like
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: the whole South American angle on it, and yeah, you
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: could have gone into it a little bit better.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: Um.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: And not had aliens.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: And not had aliens?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the point. I just don't understand. I'm like,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 4: of all the cool ideas you could have, all the
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: things within this world you could have made it about.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: I understand what Johnny was telling me. He was like, hey, well,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: they're trying to work in the hole in the late
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: 50s and 60s, all the UFO craze and stuff like that.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: They were trying to work that in. That's fine. Leave
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: it to the scientists. Don't pull Indiana Jones into it.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Just let Indy go off and, you know, there are
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: other things that he can explore and find. The retirement allowance? Yeah.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 4: What I thought would have been cool, and I still think,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 4: and this is part of why I think you can
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: see the difference in Spielberg over the years. It's like,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 4: this is the first movie, he's only done four, but
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 4: every other one, the little adventure before the titles was
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 4: its own thing. Yes. I mean, in the third one,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: at least it came around and tied back into it,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: but still, it was set years beforehand, so it was
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: its own little adventure. This one, it just continued on.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know, if they would have made that,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: the opening scene, and.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: If they would have been like, she was trying to
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 4: track him down, and they get to that warehouse, and
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 4: they're looking for it, and they're hinting the whole time
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 4: that it's aliens, and you get to that scene with
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 4: the big body bag, and they left it at that.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: And you were like, whoa, now Indiana Jones is involved
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 4: with Area 51, and that was it. They went on
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 4: to a whole new adventure about something in this world.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: And you just kind of had that hint of, oh, yeah,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: and Indy's even dealt with, you know, this. I'm like,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: if they didn't base the whole movie around it and
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 4: bring freaking aliens in at the end, I was like,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: that would have been kind of cool to just touch
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: on it just a little bit at the very beginning
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 4: and then start a whole new adventure about something cool
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: and not fucking aliens.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: But.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I thought that would have been a
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: cool idea, and they didn't do it. But, again, just
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: Spielberg not even following his own system. I mean, he
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: set up the framework of the movies, and then he
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: didn't even follow it on this one.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, throughout most of the other movies, the
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: other Indiana Jones movies and stuff, there were a lot
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: of scenes that could have been slightly believable. You were like, yeah,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: he probably could have done that. He probably could have
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: done that.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: But you know.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: What 70-year-old Harrison Ford... Going off three waterfalls in a
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: little amphibious jeep? No, they would all fucking die. They
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: would all die.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know. They're all pretty angry.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the fridge.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: He would have died.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: In the fridge.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: Everybody likes to talk about Crystal Skull, but I'm like,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 4: you look at pretty much everything that happens in Temple
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 4: of Doom. And that's okay. I mean, it's all just
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 4: doing this, like, serials thing. I mean, it's all based
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: on unrealistic things to begin with. So I'm okay with that.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, aside from the raft.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 4: The raft is crazy. I mean, pulling human darts out.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of crazy shit going on
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 4: in that movie. But it's fun. And, yeah, he was
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: young Indy. So, I mean, it's a hard sell. I...
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: At the end, I still kind of just like seeing
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 4: him back in the hat. I liked seeing Harrison Ford
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: play it again. I'm afraid... It's so flat.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: It was at that point, him running around, you looked
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: at him and you were waiting for him to break
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: a hip.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: You were just like.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: He doesn't have the same thing anymore. His delivery is off.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: It's just.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: He didn't even sound like Andy in the movie.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 3: It's shitty dialogue with shitty delivery and just... Yeah, it
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: didn't sound like him. He was yelling half the time.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, did they put voiceovers in it? Because it
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: doesn't even sound like him.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: I just tried to get what I could out of
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: it because I like the indie franchise so much. So
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 4: I tried to take the few pieces that I liked
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 4: and at least be like, okay, that was okay. But, yeah,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: as a whole, it's just, yeah, it really doesn't need
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: to exist.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: Shia LaBeouf swinging from vines and catching up with him.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised he didn't comb his hair while he was swinging.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: He got sucked up in the tree. I was like, oh, what,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: is he going to swing from vines and catch up
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: with him now?
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, the monkeys show up.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: And then the monkeys show up, and then Shia LaBeouf's like, hey,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: I could be like a monkey and just swing from
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: vine to vine and then catch up with him. How
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: the fuck does he know where they're at? And he just,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: there he goes.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: Woo!
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: His LaBeouf powers.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: His LaBeouf powers.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Oh, wow. He is horrible. I do
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: not understand why they keep putting Shia in things.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he really is not an impressive actor at all.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: I could at least understand it if he was somewhat attractive.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: It's kind of weird looking.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: He is not attractive whatsoever.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know. He just became the... go-to young actor.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: For some reason I like that ending where the hat
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: blows towards him and he just picks up the hat
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: and you're like no don't put it on don't put
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: it on and then Indiana snaps from him and you're.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 4: Like oh thank god I was at least glad I
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: was like oh please don't hand him the franchise although
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: they're already setting it up but I'm like I don't
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: know I.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Heard that Harrison Ford wanted to kill.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: The character off see I heard they're planning a five
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 4: I've heard he's already in the works.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: He's planning a five, but he's planning to kill off
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: the character.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: At the end?
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 4: Okay, because he was supposed to be in the fifth one,
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: so unless they're going to kill him off at the end.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: But what the hell is he going to be searching
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: for then? I mean, what is it? Indiana Jones? Yeah.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: There's somewhere around here. I know it. The remote control.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 4: He moves ahead to the 80s.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: Crusade for the bedpan.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, God.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: Legend of the stolen ginger snap cookies.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 4: Well, then it has to super fast forward because we
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: know he lives forever. If you're including the TV series
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 4: in the mythology, I mean, we see him as an
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: old man in the 80s.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: They're going to forget that because you got to understand
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: most people that watch this forgot about the TV show
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: and forgot completely about that.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: They're going to be coming in.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: And this may be one of those things where they'll
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: just leave it be and wait until Harrison Ford dies,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: and then they'll reboot it because they'll be like, you
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: know what? Harrison Ford can't say a damn thing about
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: it because he's dead now. Now let's put whoever.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: Really, I would almost rather have them distance themselves. If
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 4: Harrison Ford isn't going to be able to do it
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: like he used to, take him out of it. At
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 4: this point, don't even give it to Spielberg anymore because
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: we've seen what he does with it. It's kind of
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 4: the same thing with the George Lucas.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 4: Don't let him touch Star Wars anymore.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: That's what I told her. I was like, did he
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: go to the same fucking crazy places?
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 4: He did, obviously.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Did they eat the same mushrooms or what? They both
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: went off on this, hey, let's make more money. Let's
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: reboot this, or not reboot it, but let's make another one.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: Let's tack more on to it. Yeah.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 3: And make it suck.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, if they would find somebody talented to give
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: it to and bring in a new actor, I would
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 4: almost live with that rather than them cranking out more
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: crap that, you know, with the worn out stars, with
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: director that's not doing the right thing with it anymore.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: It's like if you could go on and make other adventures,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: would I want to see somebody else besides Harrison Ford?
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It depends.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: It depends on how they do it and who does it.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: Not Daniel Craig.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 4: Because, I mean, there were a lot of other stories. Like,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 4: I remember as a kid having the Marvel Comics, and
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 4: there's all these other adventures he goes on.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: Or even the books.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: Or the little books.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: Dude, I fucking love the Which Way books.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 4: Those were awesome, too.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: I had a shit ton of them, man. They were awesome.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 4: And they did a whole Dark Horse series, I think, too. So,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, they went over so many different, I mean,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: they could cover so many other ones. I mean, it
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: was almost something kind of like they did with the
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: Star Wars, if they did like an animated series, where
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: then you don't have to worry about casting. You just
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 4: get a good voice actor. Because there's so many other
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: stories they could tell that I would like to see,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: but I don't want them to screw stuff up.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, one of the books that I remember was
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: like Indiana Jones and the Eye of the Fates, where
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: he's trying to find the Eye of the Fates. And
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: there's one for anything. I mean, you've got all this
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: Egyptian stuff you can cover, Babylonian. You've got everything you
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: can cover.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: He can cover all these different plots, and I wish
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: they would do it or find a way. I mean,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: I guess the closest they did that Infernal Machine was
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: supposedly a really good story on the PC game that
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 4: they came up with.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: I guess. I don't know.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 4: So, I mean, that's something I think they've tried to
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: go there, but I would rather almost see them do
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: something animated, kind of like they're doing with the DC
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: movies that are really kind of well done and written
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: for a little older audience. So if they could do
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 4: something like that, I would rather see them do that
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: than just... crank out another ancient Harrison Ford version.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because, I mean, with the animated version, he could
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: stay the same. Yeah. You wouldn't have to worry. You
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: could stay within the same timeline. You wouldn't have to
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: keep bumping the timeline up because your actor's getting old.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: I hate that this one was so predictable. You kept
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 3: waiting for what gimmick are they going to pull out
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: of the old movies. I'm like, all right, when's there
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 3: going to be a snake?
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 4: Well, we know that's in every movie now.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: When's there going to be a snake?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: I already knew they were going to find the Ark
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: at the beginning. I was like, oh, they're going to,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: They're going to probably stumble upon the Ark at some point.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: They'll just pass by. He'll be leaning up against it,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 4: lighting a cigarette.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: And, of course, there it is.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: Or just, like, rolling after him.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, there that is. Hmm. That's frustrating.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: I hated it.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I blocked most of it out of
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: my memory, which is why I'm having a little bit
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: of trouble remembering.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: Parts of it enough to get a real good rant
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: started on it. Because as soon as it went off,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I already forgot this movie.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: As soon as the credits rolled, I was like, I've
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: already forgotten this movie.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: Kate's gone. Blanchette and her awful.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I forgot. I didn't even realize it was
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Kate Blanchette. And her wig?
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, that really bothered me because Kate Blanchette is
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: like an amazing actress.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: She was horrible in that.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: She was terrible in that. Terrible. I'm like, you fucking
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 5: have Oscars and this is awful.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was going to be bad. That's
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: why she only kind of half did it. She half-assed it,
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: because she knew it was going to suck. She's like, eh,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a paycheck anyways. Fuck it.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 4: She's like, this is going to be a good paycheck.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: It could be an Indiana Jones movie. Yeah, whatever.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, whatever.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: Write me a big check, Paramount.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: And she was supposed to be the main villain, too,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: and she wasn't really that great of a main villain.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 5: The ant scene was terrible.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: Good lord.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: Does that conclude your geek activities?
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 3: You've exhausted him.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: No, I watched today on Sci-Fi Channel, I watched In the.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 3: Name of the King.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 4: We were already making fun of that one earlier.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: Only Torch really did it.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta say, Jason's completely out of place in
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: this movie. If you could ever find somebody who doesn't
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: look like they belong in the Middle.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: Ages, it's him.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 3: Did he ever take his shirt off?
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I can't remember that he did.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: I almost, well, I was going to say, if you
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 4: ever find somebody who doesn't belong in the Middle Ages,
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: it's Ray Liotta.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: Your other star. Yeah, Ray Liotta.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: Actually, pretty much most of the people there are Matthew Lillard.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: No, none of them fit this.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But now I'm pretty sure Burt Reynolds was actually there.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Burt Reynolds was there.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: He's like, I used to live over here.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 4: Across the street there.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: So, you know, it was fun.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: Helen Hunt Jr. kind of fit in, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 4: I like her.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: She's cute. She can fit in different places. That's fine.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 4: Lili Sobieski.
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: Lili Sobieski. And she's got a cool name.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 3: It's fun to say. Yeah.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 5: Sobieski.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: It's okay. Lili Sobieski. It's not as fun as the
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 3: best name in the world. Oh, my God. Juliana Maliz.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know. That's still backseat to Antoine Foucault.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: No, Julianna Magaliz is the best.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: Julianna Magaliz, who has resurrected her career. Good for her.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: So now we can say her name more often.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: And I do, too, in every commercial for The Good Wife.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: The Good Wife starring Julianna Magaliz.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 3: Julianna Magaliz. And I work with other J's like, no, no.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: Speaking of which, this week on regular TV, and I
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: didn't watch it, but I saw it on and I went, oh,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 4: my God, I forgot she was even in that. I
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 4: forgot she's like the flight attendant in Snakes on a Plane.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: What was she thinking? What kind of hard times was
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: she on at that point in her career?
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: I don't really remember that movie.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: It was a good movie.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 4: It's fun, but I totally forgot she was in it.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: It was all Samuel L. Jackson and Kenan. Like, that's
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: all I remembered in the cast. And snakes. And I
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 4: was just like, is that? No.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: I just remember the email service where you could enter
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: somebody's name and then Samuel L. Jackson would call them up.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: And tell them that they watched it. We got our
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: phone calls.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: I got one. Wasn't Fake Sharon that one, too?
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she's one of the, yeah.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 3: She was one of the.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: TV show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 4: Whatever, I don't know.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: She was also on Are You Afraid of the Dark?
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: Rachel, I forget what her name is. It's not important.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 3: Fake Cher.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she'll always be Fake Cher.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Clueless TV series. Someone tried to tell me
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 5: the Clueless movie was horrible. I'm like, the hell you say?
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: That's for me.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 5: One of the best movies ever.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 3: It's not in my top ten. It's not in top five.
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: But anyways, Dungeon Siege Tale.
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: Dungeon Siege Tale.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 4: In the name of the king.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: In the name of the king.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: It was interesting. It was okay. Did you watch the
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: whole thing? I watched the whole damn thing.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: I left after an hour and 15 minutes. Yeah, you did.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kept watching it. I kept watching it. It
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: was okay. It kept me entertained. You know? I mean,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: other than looking like a... Kind of poor man's version
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: of Lord of the Rings. I can't remember what those
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: guys were called. Grogs or Grubs or something, whatever, the
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: bad guys. They just kind of looked like orcs.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 3: The guy from Lord of the Rings was in it, too.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 4: Which one?
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Rhys-Davies? Oh, I don't know. The guy who played
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: the dwarf, the little short troll guy.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: He was in it?
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 3: He was the.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 4: Who was he?
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 3: It's the guy who pointed out that he was the guy.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: From Lord of the Rings.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't remember. You know, whatever. That is right,
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 3: Jonathan Rhys-Davies.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: That's somebody.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: I keep wanting to say Jonathan Rhys-Meyer. Isn't he the
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 3: pretty one?
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 4: I think so.
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: Jason Statham just looked completely out of place in this movie.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: His fighting style looked completely out of place. You kept
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: waiting for him to drive a BMW out of somewhere
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: or bust out in a suit, which neither one of
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: those ever happened. I guess it was an okay movie.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: Something somebody threw together quickly as an afterthought.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: I was just amazed at the cast they got for that.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ron Perlman was enjoyable.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 4: Ron Perlman will show up for anything. You don't care.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: Pretty much.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 3: Ron Perlman and a pig. Yeah.
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 4: So, whatever.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: It was an okay movie. It was good for a
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: sci-fi being on TV movie to occupy your Sunday for
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit while you're drinking coffee and trying to
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: wake up. It was okay.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: Wait and poop. Wait and poop. All right. That round
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 4: out the week then.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: I think so.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, Lord. Okay, kids, get out your Dakota pens. This
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 4: time for the movie countdown secret circle reveal of the
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 4: next exciting episode. For you members of the secret circle.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 4: We've named many movies we're going to get around to
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 4: watching eventually, but next week we're actually going to do
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 4: the test run, the experiment at the coffee shop, if
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 4: you will. We are?
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 3: We are?
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: Coffee for everyone.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 4: So, yep, next week will be the first installment of
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 4: the Caffeinated Movie Geek, so we'll see how that goes.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 3: I don't like coffee. I do.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 5: Not chocolate.
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: I get real hyper on caffeine, so.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 4: This should be interesting.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 4: Well, as far as music, I figure today's movie was
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 4: all about the nerd. We worked with the nerd. Her
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 4: shirt was about nerd. The main character's name was nerd,
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 4: kind of. So, yeah, I figured we'd work in as
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 4: much nerd as possible.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 3: That's what we want to work on. I like rock star.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 4: This one doesn't apply, though. After seeing her work it,
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 4: you know, Dren, she wants to move. Otherwise, that about
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 4: does it. We will return next week. Same geek time,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 4: same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 3: Later, guys. She's sexy. God. She.
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 6: She.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 9: You're caught in her Damn Mr.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: Look at your girl She loves it Look.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 3: At her I can see.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 4: It in her eyes She.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 3: Come here Hope.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 9: This lasts forever Hey Her offbeat dance makes me fantasize
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 9: Her curves.
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: She's sexy I can see it in her eyes.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: She. This is your girl, girl. Come on.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 5: Ow.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: She wants to move.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 4: Move.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: She wants to move.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 3: To hug in her.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: To guard in her.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 4: Be it.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 5: Mr.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: Look at your girl. She loves it. Get out of here.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 4: I can see it in her eyes.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 3: She.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: Hope you laugh forever.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 4: Come on.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 3: Mister.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: Look at your girl.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 4: She loves it.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 3: She wants it.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 6: I can see it in her eyes.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 3: She.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: Hope you laugh forever.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 3: Hey.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 4: Somebody give us some water in here.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: Nerd.
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a nerd.
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