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Special Guest Host: Robyn Ivy - Mastering Money's Energy for Abundance and Wholeness · Solving America's Problems

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Robyn Ivy: Hi.
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Welcome back to Solving America's Problems.
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I'm your guest host, Robyn Ivy.
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Today we're doing something different.
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I get to interview one of my favorite people of all time, and kind of like
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a brother to me, Dave Conley, who's living in a support role of Jerremy.
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And I couldn't be happier to meet you Jerremy and
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Jerremy: Likewise.
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Robyn Ivy: I sort of take over your podcast.
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Thanks
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Jerremy: is.
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It's, yeah, it's gonna be so fun.
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So fun.
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I love interacting with new people.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah, this is great.
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It's great to do a little bit of a, um, friendly takeover
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of somebody else's space.
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Jerremy: Yeah, likewise.
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Robyn Ivy: So for your listeners who don't know who I am, my name's Robin Ivy.
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I'm a life coach.
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I live here in Rhode Island, but travel around the world teaching and presenting.
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And um, I'm a medium and intuitive guide and I host the Robin Ivy podcast
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where we talk about navigating change and creating the life you want while
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you navigate the one you actually have.
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Uh, we dive deep in all sorts of spiritual conversations.
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I talk about thought leadership and really how to change your
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life from the inside out.
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So this felt like a pretty cool place to talk about solving problems and
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all the things you guys talk about.
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Jerremy: Yeah, absolutely.
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I think blending and co-creating both worlds will be, uh, very magical.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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Cool.
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So, Jerremy, when I was in Miami, um, a couple weeks ago
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with Dave, he said something that's like really stuck with me.
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He said, of all the things that he's learned from hanging out with you, that
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you sang to him, that your relationship to money is essentially the same
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as your relationship to everything.
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And that if you figure out your relationship to relationship, then
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your to money will completely change.
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How true is that?
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And tell me about that.
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Jerremy: Radically true.
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Uh, in my opinion, I, I feel like money is a relationship, energy.
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And one thing that I've noticed for some people, not everyone, but a lot
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of people have commitment problems.
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We have commitment issues, so,
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Robyn Ivy: I can't relate.
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Dave: me either.
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Jerremy: so, you know, picking something and sticking to it like, all right, cool.
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I guess me and you for a long, long, long time is really, really challenging.
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And.
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Robyn Ivy: uh.
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Jerremy: For money that oftentimes can feel the same as well, where you
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get some, but you never feel like it's enough and it doesn't stay with you
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very long because as soon as you get it, you pay all the bills, you pay off
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your debts, you pay all the things.
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And it's like, well, yeah, that's what some I'm supposed to do.
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But then the money doesn't really stay there, just like a relationship might not.
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And you always feel like you're in this circle of the perpetual ness of not ever
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having enough, or the individuals that do actually have plenty of money, not
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recognizing and realizing that they have enough, not feeling like they have enough.
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So it's very much one thing to be rich.
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It's another thing to feel rich.
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It's one thing to have prosperity.
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It's another thing to perpetually create prosperity and to scale it
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and to grow it and to have more of it just like in a relationship, right?
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Having more love and having love expand versus picking someone and
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just dealing with all of their problems again, big, big shifts there.
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Robyn Ivy: Mm-hmm.
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Tell me how you know this.
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Jerremy: Well, I've studied both relationships and money in depth, uh,
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very closely for a long period of time.
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Um, the relationship piece, more from the study of energy, masculine and feminine
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energy and just kind of understanding to the best of my ability, what, what
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embodies an individual, what they carry with them from a day-to-day basis, what
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they actually do, what they say, what they use, and what type of energy that
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is holding within themselves and what the purpose of it is and why they're doing it.
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And then also the money piece kind of happened to me and for me, and then
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ultimately through me and the money.
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Uh, understanding money, understanding how it moves was
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just always fascinating to me.
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I love the stock market since a very little kid and seeing how both
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of them connected was really as I got closer and closer to my wife.
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We got married five years ago in February.
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As that relationship started coming together, it made it a lot more clear.
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'cause she's very much more in your world.
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So she has her doctorate in metaphysics, so she's very, very, uh, she's
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the queen of the Woo, like, as you know, far as you can go into ville.
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My wife is the mayor of, of
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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Jerremy: and
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Robyn Ivy: Uhhuh.
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Jerremy: learning about her world and, oh, you two will have a blast.
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You two will have a blast.
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So she, she loves it.
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But, and then, and then seeing her, her unique struggle when we met about
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charging money for her services.
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Keeping money, how she did it, how she thought about it, and then just having
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really in depth conversations from someone who's way smarter than I am in everything.
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Uh, and then having this back and forth dialogue of why was she struggling
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with growing her business or making a lot more money, or keeping a lot
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of money or feeling safe around money or feeling safe around men.
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And just having this really cool back and forth and just relaying
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it and tying it all to money.
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Yeah, it's been an awesome, awesome journey for the last five or six years.
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Robyn Ivy: So for my people, Jerremy, who've never heard of you and are
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excited to be meeting you like I am, can you give us a little bit of the
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backstory to put yourself in context?
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Jerremy: Yeah, totally.
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I'll do it.
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And three minutes.
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I grew up in Georgia.
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I lived in a very impoverished place.
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Uh, so about as poor as you can grow up in the United States of America.
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I grew up in a single wide trailer tree house.
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With no running water, with no air conditioning in Georgia.
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So it was always hot, it was always sticky.
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Mosquitoes the size of Pterodactyls would
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Robyn Ivy: Uhhuh.
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Jerremy: be my constant companion.
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And I watched a movie for the very first time that changed my life.
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In 1994.
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It was me, my father, and my oldest brother.
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Uh, his name is Jerry Roger.
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And we watched the movie Forrest Gump and 80% of the movie Forrest starts
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recounting the story about how he and Lieutenant Dan are investing.
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So he says, Lieutenant Dan invested into some kind of fruit company and said, we
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don't have to worry about money no more.
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So I said, good, one less thing.
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And that just baffled me at that exact moment, that moment in time.
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It was a beautiful paradigm shift.
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'cause I had never ever heard someone say, you do not have to worry about money.
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So I asked my dad, what is a fruit company?
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Like what's he talking about?
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I have no idea these words.
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And obviously Forrest was talking about Apple.
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They invest into Apple computers.
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And my dad started to the best of his ability explaining what Apple is and what
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the stock market is and what investing is.
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And he told me the a strategy that still works to this day.
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It's in fact probably the easiest way to explain the stock market,
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buy companies that you use.
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Do you understand their products?
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You interact with their money every day or every week.
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And if you continue to like those companies, you keep buying those
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companies, the stock will probably go up.
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And so that advice I kind of carried with me forever.
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So since the age of six, uh, I begged my dad to invest in the stock market
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and he gave me the very, very common answers that most people give when
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we talk about the stock market.
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I don't have enough money.
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I don't have enough time.
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I'm not smart enough.
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Those are the three main ones, right?
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A lot of times it's.
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I just, I don't have any knowledge.
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Like I can't watch the news for 45 hours a day.
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Like, I don't know what you're doing.
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I don't know how to do this.
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And my answer is always, well, it's very easy, right?
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Wealth is second grade math repeated consistently and
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Robyn Ivy: That's good news.
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Jerremy: It is.
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And so once you, but the word is consistent, right?
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It's, it's a repetition.
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It's a repetition.
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So we're all smart enough because Robin, you got an A in second grade math.
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Dave got an A in second grade math when we took, uh, in 1912.
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Uh, I got a, I got an A in second grade math.
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Um, we all got A's in second grade math.
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Yeah.
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So
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Dave: Ro Robin, we're not gonna,
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Jerremy: me, me and
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Dave: here.
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Robyn Ivy: are you gonna do?
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Yeah.
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Dave: a year apart.
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Jerremy: no, me, me and Dave.
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I'd always make fun of Dave.
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Robyn Ivy: was born in 1912.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Dave: Ah,
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Jerremy: boy.
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Oh boy.
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Dave: God.
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All right.
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I'm going everybody.
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Thanks.
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Jerremy: but Dave's off, Dave's off the podcast.
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He's leaving.
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Robyn Ivy: This is how, this is how you know we're family.
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Jerremy: Yeah, no, I love Dave.
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Um, and so we, we, yeah, I just love the stock market.
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I asked my, like I begged him and begged him and begged him and begged
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him and he eventually caved and said, BR buddy, if you bring me some
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money on match at dollar for dollar.
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And so I went, I picked, uh, blackberries and sold them door to door
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah,
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Jerremy: a dollar a bag and made $1,500 in the summer of 1995.
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And my dad borrowed, matched it, uh, borrowed $1,500 from my uncle Billy.
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We bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in 1995, and ever since then, I have been
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immersed and I've read book, every book I've been to, every class, every webinar.
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I've spent seven hours of my life, probably every day since the age of 12,
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studying and learning the stock market and diving into it and, and trading it
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every day and interacting with it every day, and helping people from all over
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the world understand it and interact with it, and then grow their wealth from it.
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Robyn Ivy: I think it's so fascinating.
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So like I just said, I'm 51, so five decades on the planet.
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It's so interesting to me how one of us is somehow hardwired
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to turn towards something.
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With great intensity and curiosity that might be a thing that other people
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spend their entire life turning away
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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
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Robyn Ivy: or
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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
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Robyn Ivy: You know?
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And when it comes to things like money or metaphysics or politics or solving
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hard problems that feel beyond our own agency, we can either really see that as
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this great opportunity to learn something and to get into that arena with it.
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Or it can be totally the opposite.
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And I love that.
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Now.
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I recognize like nobody has the time to do all of that in every category.
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So thanks for being somebody that does it in that one.
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Because if we all just share those resources with each other, then like none
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of us have to do it at that full throttle unless it's the thing we really wanna do.
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Jerremy: Yeah, totally.
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And to your point, uh, I grew up in a cult.
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I grew up as a Jehovah's Witness for
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Robyn Ivy: Mm-hmm.
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Jerremy: far, the vast majority of my life.
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And I would be terrified to talk to you, you know, 15 years ago,
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um, to talk to anyone that's a medium or anyone that works in the
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energies of something that's not.
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The Bible.
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Right.
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And it was, uh, to, to your point, like we all have things that we
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love and that we focus on, that we energetically align with.
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And the more that we share that gift through the world, the
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more prosperous we will be.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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Well, and it's interesting 'cause my dad was a Methodist minister and there was
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something about kind of being born behind what I call like that curtain of Oz and
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seeing that discrepancy between being a, a human being who's here to preach about
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God and but also not be God himself.
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And that immediate question of like, huh, well you don't seem to be kind
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of living up to the expectations that you're preaching about.
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As no one could, right?
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But at
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Jerremy: Yeah, of course.
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Robyn Ivy: I was like, I'm seeing some gap here in this thing.
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Jerremy: Hmm.
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Robyn Ivy: and it really opened up a lot of exploration around metaphysical things.
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at the deepest part of that, I really felt catapulted back into like
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Christianity at a very deep place because it's all the same thing really.
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You know, it's all the same thing at the end of the road.
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In my
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: uh,
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Jerremy: It,
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Robyn Ivy: of love that about that.
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Whether it's the energy of money or the energy of God or whatever
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denominational perspective you hold the holier you get, the truer we get
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with the thing, the pure, the energy, it seems like the better it all goes.
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Jerremy: yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Yep.
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Yeah, well that's, uh, I'll bring it up Robin, just so that you
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have more of the context as well.
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And for your listeners.
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The whole reason that I feel compelled and moved and guided and
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pushed towards running for president is because of all of this, right?
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Growing up, Joe's witness, that was a big no-no.
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In fact, they keep away from all politics.
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So one of their biggest, I, I guess, core tenets of belief is
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Robyn Ivy: Hmm.
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Jerremy: be separate from the world as much as possible and only interact
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with it like when you're working.
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So it's very, very, very small.
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And I would be asked all the time at 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, what
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are you gonna do with your life?
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And I would have to make up something.
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Because I already knew the answer like since I was a kid.
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Like, why, just like you, oh, you're gonna go play baseball and become a
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professional baseball, or a firefighter or a movie star or actress or whatever.
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I've always knew that the whole purpose of my life, the ultimate
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goal is to serve at that capacity, to be a leader in that capacity.
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And I was always terrified of that.
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So as after I, I was terrified of the distinction and the separation.
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'cause there couldn't be both in that particular religion.
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So once I left the religion and I realized what a great gift it was for me,
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it kept me safe, it kept me protected, it kept me, uh, from doing really,
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really dumb things because that's how I learned, I learned through mistakes.
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So I was really mistake free.
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For a vast portion of my life, and I don't really have any skeletons in the closet.
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I don't really have anything to be afraid of or ashamed of.
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There's nothing, I didn't do anything.
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I just played basketball with a bunch of witnesses my whole life, you know?
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So I didn't have any, I didn't have any negatives, uh uh, and I started doing
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a lot of the joda spina meditation work, and that's where I met my higher
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self, or the best version of me, or the most disciplined version of me.
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And every time I interact with that beingness, that meanness, uh, I've noticed
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that that's what I'm supposed to do is at least really make an extremely valiant
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effort to live the reason I was created, which is to, again, to serve as the
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president of the United States of America.
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And I thought, just my funny belief that every male.
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That was born, had that desire.
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And I was like, man, I gotta compete against everybody.
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Like this is gonna be hard.
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And the more I start talking to people, the more people I realize
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that nobody wants that job.
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It's like seven dumb dudes, uh, generally want that.
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So that's, that's why I'm here.
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That's why we're here.
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That's why Dave and I are being putting in so much time and energy and effort
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into creating something incredible.
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Robyn Ivy: Well, and it's interesting when you think about serving at scale, like at
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whatever your definition of the highest level is, kind of the fundamentals and
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the foundational things that it's helpful to really understand whether you are in
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full agreement with them or completely not kind of understanding, the, understanding
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the energetics of money and the pain of money and the joy of money and the
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relationality of money or being able to do that in terms of religious experience.
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Whether you agree with things that are more dogmatic or more rigid or you open
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up to something far more, uh, unbounded.
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I think it sets you up well, especially if you're exploring masculine energy
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and feminine energy, because the more we understand about leadership, the
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more we're talking about wholeness.
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And we're talking about being able to access these different parts
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of our own humanity, which we see historically was not the case,
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: much hiding who they were in hopes that nobody would
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ever find them out, and the level of pressure of imposter syndrome.
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then you play that out at scale in the Congress and the Senate and like
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Jerremy: Uh huh
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Robyn Ivy: who's ever run, who never wants to admit they smoked weed
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Jerremy: Uhhuh.
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Robyn Ivy: something stupid or learned by any misstep of any kind, like, do they
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really think that we don't know that they had to have missed steps somewhere in
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Jerremy: Yep.
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Robyn Ivy: learn something?
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Or are we meant to think they're just buffoons having clearly no experience
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other than something positive?
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You know, the, I think the veil's ready to drop, so,
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Jerremy: I love that.
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Yeah.
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That's beautiful.
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Yep.
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I agree.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah, I, I think there's so much, there's so much liberation
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in the things that at one point maybe feel like they tie us down,
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and I think that's, I don't know.
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I often think like it was only because I grew up as a preacher's kid, that I
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gave myself the permission to go all the way to the edge of the Woo, which
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I ironically gave me permission to like pray a rosary as a Protestant kid.
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You know, like, I don't, I, I will hope, I will probably pray this rosary every
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day till I die, and who'd have thought?
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But if we're not open to this stuff, whether it's the possibility of becoming
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president or the possibility of leading a family in a different capacity or just
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leading ourself through the world or trying to invest in, in something that we
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don't understand it, what we're here for.
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Right?
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Jerremy: Yeah, I agree.
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Well, let, let's have, I'd like to ask this question, Rob.
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I think it would just be fun,
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Robyn Ivy: Sure.
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Jerremy: uh, as it regards to the stock market.
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Tell me what your beliefs are around it, what fears you may or may not have.
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Uh, just in, in regards to investing in stocks and trading in the markets.
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Robyn Ivy: I tend to, um, go like this and pretend there's
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no such thing as any of this.
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That's been my relationship to all things financial and all things
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relative to financial at all.
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Yeah.
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Um.
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Yep.
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I, I
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Jerremy: That's fair.
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Robyn Ivy: nothing to do with it.
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It terrifies me, but I've learned it, it terrifies me from a place
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of not trusting myself, right?
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Like the, the same, the same fear as an A DHD kid of like,
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I'm not gonna figure it out.
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I'm gonna have to know more than I know I'm gonna have to be a
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different person to deal with.
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It took me a long time of working through a lot of that fear and I think
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I still have a long way to go with it.
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Um, but I did get smart enough to get a financial advisor and a bookkeeper and
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offload it, but then it left me feeling like I'm not in relationship with it.
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else is in a healthy relationship with it, which is better than no one being in a
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Jerremy: Sure.
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Robyn Ivy: it.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: like, progress.
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Someone is in relationship with this, but it also gets to be me one day
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not hoping they're doing a great job.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I agree.
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Well, that's, I, I, I appreciate you sharing that with us, and I think
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truthfully, that's probably most people's.
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Interaction with it, and it's just scary.
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Uh, I love your awareness of your like, oh wait, I'm scared of it, because
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it's probably gonna be a me thing.
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And that really is.
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I, I think beau.
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Robyn Ivy: percent gonna be a me thing.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Well, that's beautiful awareness though.
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Robyn Ivy: more potently.
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It's not only gonna be a me thing, it's gonna be a shame thing.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: It's not.
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It's like, oh no.
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The only thing I'm ever turning my back on is when it's gonna be a
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shame thing that then is gonna also potentially be compounded with an
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action of consistency thing about a thing I don't feel that much self-trust
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Jerremy: Mm. Love that.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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Most
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Jerremy: that.
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Robyn Ivy: I'm like, let's go Buffalo towards a storm I'm in.
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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
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Yeah.
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Well, I hope to have more in depth conversations with you about it because
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I, I believe that there's a lot of healing that goes into that journey
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because the more we understand that world, the more we'll understand about
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ourselves, we start removing and working on and healing that shame a little bit.
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Because really a lot of times it's, uh, it'll be linked to the shame of pleasure.
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Um, 'cause that's what, that's one of the things that money brings into our lives.
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It brings a lot of pleasure.
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Uh, it doesn't have to,
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Robyn Ivy: Oh
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Jerremy: it can bring a,
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Robyn Ivy: me that he, um, he has to spend like, that you, that he has to send, spend
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a certain amount of money just for fun.
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Jerremy: yeah.
20:13
Robyn Ivy: Like one of your rules.
20:15
Jerremy: Yeah.
20:15
Well, I mean, WW when people say money that
20:18
Robyn Ivy: that part, by the way.
20:20
Jerremy: No.
20:20
Yeah.
20:21
Robyn Ivy: There's no evidence so far to suggest that I am not good
20:23
at spending it for fun, actually.
20:27
Jerremy: Yes.
20:28
Yes.
20:29
Well, uh, and, and those, those are both interesting words, right.
20:33
Spending and fun.
20:34
Um.
20:35
Because, yeah, I, I, fun can be pleasurable, but giving
20:38
money away can be pleasurable.
20:40
Um, building, building churches, building schools, building hospitals,
20:44
figuring out ways to circulate it.
20:46
Um, spit out ways to not spend it, but just earn more of it.
20:50
'cause if you give more, you're gonna get more.
20:52
That's the other beautiful law, right?
20:53
Scriptural law in all text is like, you're gonna be provided for the more you give
20:59
and the more you provide for others.
21:00
And that's just also a beautiful recognition.
21:02
So I think that, uh, it's just a beautifully interwoven
21:06
aspect of our lives.
21:07
'cause everyone needs money, right?
21:09
It's not as important as oxygen, but it's right up there.
21:12
It is really, really close, uh, oxygen and currency.
21:18
And when you start playing in both of those worlds, you will start opening
21:21
yourself up for a lot of opportunity, for healing, for expansion, for growth.
21:25
Because yes, to, to make a lot of money and to keep a lot of money, we have to
21:30
become really, really unique containers.
21:32
We have to be a container of someone that can hold all other
21:36
things as well in our life.
21:38
Uh, not only relationships, but also, um, a assets, right?
21:44
Other, other assets.
21:45
Not necessarily only physical assets, right?
21:47
Intangible assets, things that we really step out into the world
21:51
and we're ready to be a big, bold beacon and say, Hey, look at me.
21:55
'cause again, that's what money does, is it amplifies, it amplifies
21:57
everything that it touches.
21:59
Robyn Ivy: Totally.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
22:01
Heck yeah.
22:01
Robyn Ivy: a lot of folks in the financial world talk about how money loves speed,
22:06
Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
22:06
Robyn Ivy: something about money and, and quickness and I, I, my
22:13
coaching practice, when people are bumping up against self-trust.
22:17
That tends to be where they then wanna slow down the speed.
22:20
'cause they're like, I don't feel like I can move quick at a place of not trust.
22:25
And I was like, well then that's gonna be a real setup when
22:27
it comes to money for people.
22:29
If money loves speed, but not trusting ourselves creates a, uh, this, this
22:33
natural inclination to slow down or stop altogether, then we're also
22:37
financially then energetically putting ourselves in a bit of a pickle.
22:42
Jerremy: Yeah, I love that.
22:43
So true.
22:45
Yes, correct.
22:46
Speed is really what, what speed means, is velocity, and then velocity
22:52
generally also means volatility.
22:54
And so you've heard that phrase before, right?
22:56
The stock market, that's a tons of volatility and people are
22:59
like, oh, it's too volatile.
23:00
Don't put me in it.
23:02
Volatility is incredible.
23:03
If you know where you're going.
23:05
Most people don't know where they're going.
23:07
They don't have the clarity, they don't have the intention to sit down and
23:09
go, okay, this is where I wanna go.
23:11
You live in Rhode Island, so if you're gonna come out here to
23:13
Las Vegas and visit me, you're probably gonna be in an airplane
23:15
that's volatile because it's fast.
23:17
But you're gonna choose that overriding a bicycle.
23:21
And it's because one is extremely efficient and the other one's not.
23:25
I think the, the speed of money is also characterized by the speed of ideas, the
23:31
speed of intention, the speed of creation.
23:34
I do secretly judge people when I take them out to a dinner or, or a
23:38
lunch on how fast they can order food.
23:40
You know, how, how long they take to just interact with the world,
23:43
how long they take to interact with the decisions to move.
23:46
Because having speed of clarity and speed of intention and speed of thought
23:50
does mean that you are, and you have the capacity to create a lot more income,
23:55
money, current to or opportunity.
23:58
Robyn Ivy: is there any cost to that that you've noticed?
24:02
Jerremy: Yes, absolutely.
24:03
Because most people will never make the decision.
24:05
They think they will and then they just go, uh, and then they don't.
24:08
Because I, I've heard
24:10
Robyn Ivy: No, I mean
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Jerremy: ca
24:11
Robyn Ivy: fast, like is there to going quickly the opposite.
24:15
Like is there any cost to being to, yeah.
24:18
Is there any cost to going that quick?
24:21
Jerremy: uh, I'm sure there is.
24:23
Yeah, I'm sure there is.
24:24
I think probably the cost would be you get too wrapped up in it and you have
24:28
the inability to be, most individuals are extremely good at human doings, but
24:33
they're not very good at human beings, so that's probably ultimately the cost is
24:37
like they don't know how to turn it off.
24:38
And they're always flying.
24:39
They're always moving.
24:40
They're always perpetually just going, and they're never here,
24:43
and they're never in the now.
24:45
Robyn Ivy: Okay.
24:46
So how do you manage that as somebody who's really good with the energy
24:49
and speed and velocity of money, but also is good at the being part I.
24:55
Jerremy: The best answer I have to that question is I have to schedule it.
24:58
And I don't know if that's the right or the wrong way, but I have to put on, I
25:03
have to put on the calendar and I have to tell my brain and my body and my mind
25:06
this, Hey, this is where we're going this weekend or this day or these hours.
25:11
You're going to sit down and do X, Y, z. I go to seminars very, very often.
25:17
We'll ask people, Hey, who here, raise your hand if you ever, if you have
25:20
ever worked for 12 hours straight?
25:23
And everyone's like, yeah, right?
25:24
They like badge of on.
25:25
They're like, I've done that.
25:27
And they get all excited.
25:28
And then I ask, who here has ever prayed for 12 hours straight?
25:32
And all the hands go down and it's just this, it's just really
25:36
this idea of, Hey man, you know, what are you working so hard for?
25:43
Why?
25:43
Why are you spending all this time and energy?
25:45
Like if you just get closer to.
25:47
Whatever ultimate being that you believe in, you probably will be able
25:52
to close the gap between time and space.
25:54
And if you close that gap between time and space, it's probably
25:58
gonna happen for you faster.
25:59
That's one of the things I love about Joe Dispenza.
26:01
When he says, uh, the, the unknown, like the closer you get to the unknown, the
26:05
absolute unknown, the, the nothingness.
26:08
When you and that nothingness become one, everything in your life will
26:12
manifest into reality instantly.
26:14
For me, that nothingness is everythingness, which is, uh, god or the
26:19
universe or love or ultimate perfection.
26:22
And I think that's just such an awesome, awesome realization where
26:24
the closer you get to that, the faster things will happen for you and I
26:28
wanna get there as much as possible.
26:30
So I think that's a, uh, a fun place to play in.
26:34
Robyn Ivy: I heard these, um, these two women, and I, I forget their
26:36
names, but I, I, if I'm, if I remember correctly, they work for Harvard and
26:41
they're organizational, psychologists, and they were talking about how, um.
26:48
That in organizations that people, uh, they say slow it down to speed
26:53
it up, that that was like a big business ideology for a while.
26:56
Like slow it down to speed it up.
26:57
And they said, no, that's not true.
26:59
Speed it up to speed it up.
27:01
But they said the reason that people don't speed it up in organizations
27:04
is similar to the reason we don't speed it up in our own lives.
27:07
Because if we don't trust the foundations of our systems, of our support networks,
27:12
of what we have in place, she was using the analogy of like a dock pillar where
27:17
like, you're not gonna go running out on the pilings if you don't trust that
27:20
they're in place, but if you know they're in place, you could like haul ass down the
27:24
piling no problem, but without believing that they're, they're trustworthy,
27:29
you're gonna take it much slower.
27:30
And I was like, that's such an interesting thing, especially if we're talking about
27:34
the relationality of the money or our own trust that like we can go fast.
27:40
Because we've got the systems in place because we trust our financial person
27:43
or we trust our knowledge of the stock market, or we trust our ability to
27:47
reassure ourselves if we make a bad move that day and lose money like that,
27:51
Jerremy: Yeah.
27:52
Robyn Ivy: just abandon ourselves.
27:53
Right.
27:54
I thought that
27:54
Jerremy: Yeah,
27:54
Robyn Ivy: an interesting parallel.
27:56
Jerremy: yeah.
27:56
I love that.
27:57
I do.
27:58
Robyn Ivy: How do you set yourself up for the kind of, uh, balance of rigidity
28:03
and flexibility that you need to thrive?
28:08
Jerremy: Well, I think that also comes down to, for me, again,
28:11
again, just being extremely clear.
28:13
I think the person that's most clear and the most intentional will win the
28:16
fastest or the most, or the most often.
28:20
Perfect example.
28:21
If someone says, Hey, I want more money all, all the time, like
28:25
that's their perpetual daily mantra.
28:28
I would love to have more money.
28:29
I would love to have more money If you get a dollar that is more.
28:33
And, but they're not satisfied with a dollar.
28:35
So now they're upset.
28:37
And then they get this anger of not being grateful or not being in gratitude.
28:42
And the way I structure rigidity and also flexibility is one of my mantras,
28:51
I think, is follow my rules like an engineer, and know when to break them.
28:55
Like an artist, there's always these ebbs and flows, right where you have to be,
29:00
you don't wanna be the most dangerous.
29:03
Uh.
29:05
Gardener in a war, you wanna be the most dangerous warrior in a garden like it.
29:10
There needs to be this balance.
29:13
I mean, that's what it all always is.
29:15
There has to be some level of equilibrium.
29:17
Uh, another incredible, for me, just parallel that really shifts in my
29:22
life in a huge way, just if not that long ago, three or four years ago.
29:25
I heard the story differently for the very first time.
29:29
The story about the two wolves.
29:30
The, there's this Chinese father, or, you know, speaking to his younger son
29:35
and his younger son's asking about life and death and good and bad.
29:39
And the dad says that every man, every person has two wolves inside of them.
29:44
The light wolf and the dark wolf.
29:47
And the dark wolf is there for destruction and terror and creating.
29:57
Anger and making things happen through force.
30:01
And then the light wolf is happy and joyful and prosperous, and
30:05
they're always battling each other.
30:06
These two wolves are always fighting each other, and the young boy looks
30:09
at his dad and says, which wolf wins?
30:11
And the dad says, whichever wolf you feed the most.
30:14
Now, I had never heard the word the most before.
30:19
Robyn Ivy: Hmm.
30:20
Jerremy: I always heard whatever wolf you feed, but in reality,
30:23
we all have those two wolves.
30:24
We all have to feed them.
30:26
And so I do a lot of work with men because men, the brokenness
30:31
of any country is in direct proportion to the brokenness of men.
30:35
And if men do not have this way to internally heal, to understand and
30:41
to adopt, it's never women who have created this, oh, I'm gonna go start a
30:47
giant war for more land and more power.
30:51
Right?
30:51
Robyn Ivy: We know it's not us.
30:53
Jerremy: No.
30:53
Yeah, yeah.
30:54
It's, it is not women.
30:55
Right.
30:55
Like it's that internal.
30:58
Robyn Ivy: sure that wouldn't be how we do that.
31:02
Jerremy: We would figure out another way.
31:04
Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
31:05
We're pretty sure we could figure out another path to
31:08
Jerremy: Right.
31:09
Robyn Ivy: and resolution.
31:10
Jerremy: But, but really that, that's a gorgeous recognition that I
31:14
think so many people just skip over.
31:16
It's like, listen, it's not, it's the dudes like they're the
31:20
ones that are ruining everything.
31:22
If there's something that needs to be ruined, leave it up to a
31:24
really angry, egotistical guy and he'll figure out a way to do that.
31:28
Like, that's the big challenge.
31:29
And
31:29
Robyn Ivy: of two, like now grown men, I also think, boy, without
31:33
the men, like men get a bad rap.
31:35
And I'm always like, I always joke that I'd be the first one Vijo, like
31:39
voted off Vagina island because I really stand for men and all that.
31:43
Jerremy: yeah, of course.
31:45
Robyn Ivy: that presence, without that, it would, we would just all be different.
31:49
So
31:49
Jerremy: That's the balance, right?
31:51
That
31:51
Robyn Ivy: important parts of this.
31:53
Jerremy: agreed.
31:53
Agreed.
31:54
And that's the balance.
31:54
The balance is the recognition that we have to be in both places.
31:58
Uh, we have to know how to do both things.
32:00
We have to know how to live in the both worlds.
32:02
Men need to learn how to heal deeply and to to pull their ego
32:06
out and to pull it into light.
32:09
And also be, uh, a, a protector.
32:11
A protector of women, a protector of children, a protector of
32:15
themselves, a protector of their kingdom, the castle, and they have
32:17
to be totally okay to become more.
32:21
Grace to become more kind.
32:23
And I think having the balance and having the blend between all of those
32:26
things we're talking about, which is really the energetics of spirituality,
32:30
of beingness, of who individuals are.
32:33
And you start blending all of that and putting it into money,
32:36
into investing, into politics.
32:38
That is my four corners of like, I can talk about this stuff all day and
32:42
it jazzes me up and it lights me up.
32:44
'cause I know that there are solutions in in this box.
32:48
Robyn Ivy: Yeah, I mean, I think that I've noticed, uh, with women, a pa the
32:52
pattern of like, there's a pattern of not feeling safe and not feeling worthy.
32:56
And those two things then ripple out into, I mean, that becomes
33:00
almost like a filter through which everything, like, it's not safe to
33:03
put themselves out there in the world.
33:04
It's not safe to start the business.
33:05
It's not safe to ask for that amount of money.
33:08
then on the guy side, I see a lot of, not enoughness, like it's, I'm not enough yet,
33:13
so I can't, I don't feel good enough about myself, so I can't start the thing, do the
33:16
thing, be humble or be compassionate or open, It's such a shame to me because if
33:22
we could see ourselves from that position, reassure that in each other, then just
33:27
keep going out and doing the thing, our contributions and our, what we could
33:31
create here altogether, the problems we can overcome are, it's, it's mind blowing.
33:37
Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
33:38
Yeah.
33:39
What, what problem would you like to overcome?
33:40
If you had to pick one that you could just solve tomorrow, what would it be?
33:44
Robyn Ivy: Hunger.
33:45
Hunger to me, hunger.
33:46
Because if you're hungry, I don't care what plans you have,
33:49
I don't care what, I don't care.
33:51
Everything else, if you're hungry, it's over.
33:54
Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
33:54
Robyn Ivy: not doing anything if you're
33:55
Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
33:56
Robyn Ivy: Uh, so I don't, yeah, I just, I can't fathom for me
34:01
how it's 20, 25 and five decades later people are still hungry.
34:05
Like, to me, this was a problem that should have been solved
34:08
by the time I was like 12 years old or long before I got here.
34:12
So the fact that people are still hungry, the fact that we could have this
34:14
many billionaires and hungry people.
34:17
Something is, something is glitchy in the matrix still
34:21
Jerremy: Y yes.
34:22
And not only billionaires.
34:24
So we have this many obese people in the us
34:26
Robyn Ivy: correct?
34:27
Jerremy: like so someone's eating a lot of food.
34:29
Robyn Ivy: have GLP if we have GLP ones and hungry people.
34:33
It's astounding.
34:35
Jerremy: Yes.
34:36
Agreed.
34:37
Like there, like to, to that aspect.
34:39
Like what, how are we getting at this incorrect?
34:45
Robyn Ivy: And I also like, I looked around my house a couple months
34:48
ago and I thought, wow, this is interesting that you can be overwhelmed.
34:51
I could be overwhelmed by the amount of stuff I have to the point that I'm like,
34:54
I gotta get rid of some of this stuff.
34:55
It's so, this is a lot.
34:57
And then simultaneously have any sense of lack in my life.
35:00
Jerremy: Mm.
35:01
Robyn Ivy: Like how interesting.
35:03
Jerremy: Yeah.
35:03
Robyn Ivy: things can sit there together.
35:05
Jerremy: Yep.
35:05
Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
35:06
Jerremy: I love that.
35:06
Robyn Ivy: But hunger, to me, it's always hunger.
35:08
Jerremy: Okay.
35:09
Robyn Ivy: else, don't know.
35:10
If you're hungry and you're cold, don't have somewhere to stay.
35:14
But you can always, like, you can, you can find somewhere to stay.
35:17
If you can't eat, if you have nothing to eat, you're, what are you figuring out?
35:20
Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
35:22
Robyn Ivy: How about you?
35:23
Jerremy: Love that.
35:24
Um.
35:27
Well, I think my main, I believe my main focus is going to be to radically change
35:34
the educational system in the US because
35:38
Robyn Ivy: system?
35:40
Jerremy: Come on Robin, let's go.
35:43
Be careful.
35:44
You're gonna enter my best friend status real quick.
35:47
Robyn Ivy: That's
35:47
Jerremy: I,
35:48
Robyn Ivy: yeah.
35:48
Get
35:49
Jerremy: I agree.
35:49
It's like,
35:50
Robyn Ivy: friends.
35:50
I can come rummage through your cabinets.
35:51
If I need a
35:52
Jerremy: cool,
35:53
Robyn Ivy: way, I'm not,
35:53
Jerremy: cool.
35:54
Robyn Ivy: in the acquaintance level,
35:56
Jerremy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:56
I want snacks.
35:57
I'm with you.
35:58
I'm with you.
35:59
Uh,
35:59
Robyn Ivy: get one on the Uber Eats, and we're both grabbing the same, yeah.
36:02
Mm-hmm.
36:04
Jerremy: it.
36:04
Love it.
36:05
Yeah.
36:05
I, I think the, the, our educational system is killing us.
36:10
And it's making us, uh, scared to put kids in school.
36:14
It's making our kids less smart.
36:18
It is making our generation and our populace fatter and larger
36:23
and bigger and more complacent and more docile and less creative.
36:28
And it's helping us memorize things that we never use.
36:33
And I believe that if we sit down and we help our children and we
36:37
help our teachers, and we help our staff become extremely creative
36:41
thinkers, I believe that a lot of our problems do slowly dissipate.
36:46
Just as an example, I mean, you mentioned hunger.
36:48
Obviously that is a component of many, many, many things.
36:53
But if you have enough smart people in schools, in high schools, middle
36:59
schools, colleges, universities sit down and go, alright, let's creatively
37:02
think of these solutions and let's really, really figure out how.
37:06
This one company, this one product, this one creation can solve that issue.
37:12
And we are rewarded as a community globally, but also also here in the US for
37:18
just extremely creative thinking often.
37:22
I think that that's something that really does make a huge, massive impact.
37:26
And we're not, we're not doing that in school, right?
37:29
Our schools are,
37:30
Robyn Ivy: think it's very difficult to get rid of everything that
37:32
fosters creativity in a system, and then expect the people to
37:36
Jerremy: mm-hmm.
37:37
Robyn Ivy: side with their most creative thinking.
37:38
Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
37:39
Yeah,
37:40
Robyn Ivy: Right.
37:40
I am like, well, if we don't support creativity anywhere, and if we don't
37:43
cr if we don't support, um, feedback and unique perspective and socra
37:50
conversations, opportunity for people to have various opinions and debate.
37:56
Gosh, gosh.
37:56
Debate, did I say debate in
37:59
Jerremy: Oh, my good.
37:59
Uh oh, oh, oh.
38:01
Robyn Ivy: my no Lord.
38:03
Yeah.
38:04
What a dangerous concept.
38:05
Jerremy: Agreed.
38:07
Robyn Ivy: you know, how are we gonna do anything creatively?
38:10
Jerremy: Yes.
38:11
Yeah, I'm with you.
38:11
And so I, I can see it extremely clearly is we do make huge changes
38:18
there where we actually have that well, 'cause AI is coming, it's coming.
38:22
And if we don't sit down as a nation and go, alright, AI overlords,
38:27
'cause those, those are the people that Dave battles with every day.
38:30
He battles with the AI overlords.
38:32
If we don't, if we don't start getting ready and prepared as a, as a nation
38:39
and also a civilization for what is coming down the pike in 15 to 30 years,
38:45
people aren't gonna have, they're, they're not gonna be aware to how to
38:48
have jobs, to how to, to how to create.
38:50
They're gonna be extremely complacent.
38:52
And Wally, the kids show the movie that is wildly accurate and hopefully
38:59
never going to happen, but probably is a 200 year dystopian from now.
39:04
That's gonna start happening if we don't get extremely creative on making changes.
39:07
Now
39:09
Robyn Ivy: and Idiocracy is sad that we just watched that a couple
39:11
weeks ago together in Miami, and I said, because I, he's like, have you
39:14
Jerremy: it's a documentary.
39:16
Robyn Ivy: no, I, what we said.
39:17
I was like, in what universe is this actually more like how it is?
39:21
And then it is.
39:23
It just is.
39:24
It is so much more like how it is, which is terrifying.
39:27
Jerremy: Terrifying.
39:29
Terrifying.
39:31
I mean, Crocs is a publicly traded company now, and that's what they're all, all
39:36
the people wearing Crocs in the whole movie, and they were doing it as a joke.
39:40
Robyn Ivy: on Friday night and I turned to my friend and I was like, I don't
39:43
know, I, I don't know what drug this is.
39:45
They're on, I don't, I cannot identify whatever substance has run through
39:50
this place that we didn't take.
39:52
Everybody was at a frequency I had.
39:54
I'm like, I don't know.
39:56
I know most of them, and I don't know what this is, but people were in some
39:59
kind of weird of half Kensington, you know, like they were just kinda
40:04
Jerremy: Hmm.
40:05
Robyn Ivy: there.
40:05
I'm like, this is not normal, but this is very much like that movie.
40:09
Jerremy: Yeah.
40:10
Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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Jerremy: what was your,
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Robyn Ivy: feel like it's a rally cry for people who are excited
40:14
and still wanna make a difference.
40:16
Like, how about now
40:17
Jerremy: yes, agreed.
40:18
Dave, what was your, the,
40:20
Robyn Ivy: the team now.
40:21
Jerremy: the big one that stood out to you in Idiocracy?
40:23
Dave,
40:24
was it the pro wrestling president?
40:28
Dave: I, I, I mean the, like, every piece of that thing is like, really,
40:33
really, this was 20 years ago and here we are living this thing.
40:36
So it's
40:39
there.
40:40
I mean, like, it's, it's, it's bonkers, you know,
40:43
Jerremy: Yeah.
40:44
Dave: think that this is actually happening.
40:46
Jerremy: Yeah.
40:46
Robyn Ivy: the fact that it was 20 years ago is one thing, but the
40:48
fact that it was intended to be the most absurd thing on that would ever
40:52
potentially, ever and ever, ever happen
40:55
Dave: Yeah.
40:55
Robyn Ivy: it, and it's now more like, not this so alarming.
41:00
Jerremy: Dave, chances we could get the creator writers on the show.
41:04
Just have a conversation with him.
41:05
Robyn Ivy: Dax Shepherd,
41:07
Dave: And
41:07
Robyn Ivy: probably.
41:08
Dave: Mac, uh, no, it's, um,
41:10
Jerremy: It is possible.
41:11
I think it's possible
41:12
Dave: It's a mike
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Robyn Ivy: Oh, Mike Judge.
41:13
Got it.
41:14
Mm-hmm.
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Jerremy: do,
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Dave: I'll, I'll reach out.
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Robyn Ivy: Get on that, Dave.
41:18
Jerremy: Get on it, Dave.
41:19
Dave: more people say yes than not, so Yeah.
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Jerremy: Yeah,
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Robyn Ivy: know.
41:23
Jerremy: that's right.
41:24
Robyn Ivy: Um, Jerremy, what do, when you look at the landscape of your life
41:27
in this financial container, what do, what do people, are people get wrong?
41:33
Like, where's the paradigm shift in that?
41:35
You know, like if people are, where are they so close, but getting it all wrong.
41:42
Jerremy: That is a very beautiful question.
41:45
Most individuals, in my opinion, have this extremely u uh, extremely bad belief about
41:57
the co, the combination of time and money.
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And so here's what I mean by that.
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They feel like there is so much time they can do it later.
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And that is true.
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So that that's a truth.
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And since there is so much time and you can do it later, if you start doing
42:19
it now, the later becomes amazing and says you can start whatever you want.
42:27
You can start at 67, you can start at 72, you can start at 84.
42:30
The earlier you start though, the better and easier it becomes.
42:35
That is the truth.
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Most people that I connect with, work with discuss, they go, uh, you
42:41
know, one day, one day, one day.
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And every time I go through my calendar, I never see, one day I see a Monday, right?
42:49
Monday's on the calendar, some days not on the calendar, but
42:53
some Sunday's on the calendar.
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It's like we gotta start doing this as soon as humanly possible.
42:57
'cause you said it, money loves speed.
42:59
Quick, fast example.
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Tons of people will say.
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This is a pretty, pretty open statement.
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I'm not blowing your minds here.
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Apple's done innovating.
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They've created the exact same thing for years, and that company's gonna slowly die
43:12
well for the last two and a half years.
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So if you go back to just July, 2023, I'm just gonna pick a really random time
43:18
that's, you know, relatively relevant.
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July of 2023 on Apple, and until today's price over the last two and a half
43:26
years, apple's up 47% just in value.
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47%. They make $90 million net an hour.
43:37
It's a lot of money.
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It's a lot of money.
43:40
Uh, Google is up 85% since April of this year.
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Robyn Ivy: Wow.
43:47
Jerremy: there, there are some companies that we,
43:49
Robyn Ivy: unbelievable because of the messaging that AI's taking over
43:52
and nobody's using Google, right?
43:54
Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
43:55
I know precisely, yeah.
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That, that messaging is just wrong.
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Robyn Ivy: how it appears.
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Yeah.
43:59
How.
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Jerremy: It's almost never how it appears.
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Yeah.
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Um, so like, it, it's just a really, really, really wild and beautiful
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belief and awareness process that when we start looking at and navigating
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the process, like we need to start investing into assets now because
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you, you do have enough money.
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If you have a dollar, you have enough money to start investing into assets.
44:18
And if you start now, as in today, buying $1 worth of something and
44:24
you can obviously exponentially it to however much you need to
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or want to, or have ability to.
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But, uh, we, we just hired an incredible woman to work with myself and my wife
44:33
and my family to help us out with our time and to give us more leverage.
44:37
And she, uh, her name is Nelly.
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She's really, really sweet.
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And I'm getting her, I mean, she just really just started working with us like
44:44
days ago, and I've already given her a Robinhood account and I'm already teaching
44:48
her how to invest into stocks because I know her background and her background
44:52
is an amazing background, but it's one of, I need to work really, really hard
44:55
for money and I need to spend six hours a week and order to provide for my family.
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And although that is a truth, right?
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We can and we should.
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And there, that's an a possibility.
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What if instead of working 60 hours, we hired her for 40 hours and is paying
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her the exact same amount she was making when she was making 60 hours.
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And then I'm also gonna teach her how to make more money by investing and
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taking some of the capital that we pay her and taking a portion of that.
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Obviously we all have bills in life.
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You take a portion of that and you put it into the Googles, the NVIDIAs, the apples,
45:26
the Teslas of the world, and guess what?
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The value of your, your value, your net worth is going to increase because
45:32
those companies are gonna increase because you're betting on America.
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And I think that's really what people don't understand is when you're buying
45:38
assets, you're, you're betting on the largest, most powerful, most profitable
45:42
country that in, in the existence.
45:44
And if you think that's gonna go away, that's, that's fine.
45:47
You're entitled to that belief.
45:49
I'm just telling you that you're mathematically wrong.
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It's not gonna go away.
45:52
It's gonna get bigger.
45:53
Robyn Ivy: it.
45:53
So putting your money somewhere else is like a way to make sure you're right,
45:57
which is a terrible idea if winning that it means you don't have a country.
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Jerremy: Oh my goodness.
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The quote of the date.
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Yeah, that's it.
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Like, what do you like if you're like, no, I don't wanna do that, so I'm just gonna
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put all my money into like this bunker and guns because the zombies are coming.
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Robyn Ivy: Okay.
46:14
Jerremy: Well, so that means you're gonna be fighting zombies in 20 years.
46:16
Like, that sucks.
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Like, that's not a great world.
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Let's, let's, let's prevent that from happening.
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Let's prevent, prevent the zombies from attacking.
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Robyn Ivy: direct it towards everybody's wellbeing.
46:25
Jerremy: Yeah.
46:26
There you go.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
46:28
all right, so three things that came up when you were saying that is I
46:31
could feel my own like, oh, Lord, well, how am I gonna learn everything?
46:34
I would have to learn about this, because this feels like, I don't
46:39
know what it's taken to learn about parenting 24 years deep.
46:42
My friend is a lot, and I'm like,
46:44
Jerremy: Yeah.
46:44
Robyn Ivy: Is it, do I have to that my inner Sisyphus is like, I'm gonna have
46:48
to grab another boulder and hit the road.
46:51
So how can you pacify that fear in me in a
46:54
Jerremy: yeah.
46:55
Robyn Ivy: I am?
46:57
Jerremy: The, the same way my dad did.
46:58
Where it is as easy as you want it to be, that's, that's what investing is.
47:04
Um, you don't have to learn everything to know something.
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You kinda like anything in life.
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I asked you, how can I connect with my dad who's no longer with us?
47:15
There's probably a easier way, a quicker way that you could guide me
47:19
into, and then there's a probably a more in depth way where if I
47:22
needed to go all the way into it.
47:23
So that's, that's with Juujitsu.
47:27
All right.
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I'm a practitioner, juujitsu.
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I love doing it.
47:29
It's an incredible martial art.
47:31
Uh, I'm nowhere close to good.
47:32
Yeah.
47:33
I'm nowhere close to good.
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I'm terrible.
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I'm a 16 year white belt, but I, I love it.
47:38
It's awesome.
47:39
It's really fun.
47:40
And just like there's levels, I mean, there's learning, chess, picket,
47:45
pick anything in life, pickleball, tennis, football, basketball, soccer.
47:50
You can become an incredibly, incredibly proficient at it
47:52
and become a professional, like an immaculate professional.
47:55
Or you can become someone who's aware and.
47:58
Robyn Ivy: But the difference is that with money, if you get it wrong,
48:02
people have a whole lot of ugh, about getting that wrong in a way.
48:06
You don't care if you get the arm bar wrong in Jiujitsu, I think.
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Jerremy: Yeah, they, they, they can, and I think 'cause wrong is
48:13
back to the whole time thing, right.
48:14
It's gonna, they'll, they'll be right if there's enough time.
48:17
Generally I would say 97%
48:20
Robyn Ivy: Ah,
48:20
Jerremy: the time they will be correct over a long enough time horizon.
48:24
And so when you're putting too short of a time horizon, when I first
48:27
started trading and doing the stuff in the stock market and day trading,
48:30
my family literally lit the same week.
48:33
We're like, alright.
48:33
So are you a billionaire yet?
48:37
Like a bi a, a billionaire?
48:41
No, I have started learning finance a week ago.
48:44
Um, and yeah.
48:46
Yeah, it's just, it's just this fascinating asset and it's
48:48
just fascinating realization.
48:49
I do think that really ultimately for all of us having the ability for it to, to
48:54
make things simple, to make it easy, um.
48:58
For me to you, Robin would be Yes, baby girl, something.
49:01
Go for it.
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Yeah, of course.
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Um, to make it easy would be invest into companies that you know, that
49:07
you use, that you understand, and it could be any, any amount of money
49:12
that, that's really the quick answer.
49:13
And if you do it repeatedly, it will grow.
49:16
So every time you spend, uh, a Netflix account, put the same amount
49:21
of money into the Netflix stock.
49:23
Anytime you buy an Apple iPhone.
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Robyn Ivy: a great idea.
49:26
Jerremy: Yeah.
49:26
Uh, buy some Apple stock.
49:28
Anytime you pull up Google to search, Google, put some money into Google stock.
49:32
Every time you get into it, every time you make a car payment, like
49:34
most people make a car payment to whoever a finance company, Ford,
49:38
gm, Tesla, somebody, Honda Toyota.
49:42
Put a little bit of money into that stock.
49:43
Robyn Ivy: Hmm.
49:44
Jerremy: If you use the realization that we can all be owners rather than
49:48
just consumers, your money will grow.
49:53
So that's a very, very powerful statement, but that's a statement of 100% accuracy.
49:57
You're betting on America, America's gonna win by the companies that you
50:00
use, interact with on a daily basis, and your money will grow over time.
50:05
Robyn Ivy: I love that idea, and I really appreciate you framing that in
50:07
a way that's very pedestrian relatable.
50:10
Jerremy: Yeah, sure.
50:11
Robyn Ivy: makes sense.
50:11
It makes sense why we would do that.
50:13
I can hear the kind of, um, flags of social responsibility of where do I
50:18
wanna, do I wanna be investing in that?
50:20
And at the same time, I think, well, if you're using them, then
50:22
you might wanna be checking in with yourself about that anyway.
50:24
Like, if you don't want to be investing in Apple, then why
50:27
do you have an Apple iPhone?
50:29
Jerremy: Come on, champion.
50:30
Robyn Ivy: want to be
50:31
Jerremy: Oh,
50:31
Robyn Ivy: in
50:31
Jerremy: oh.
50:32
Robyn Ivy: then maybe you don't want to put gas in your car.
50:34
Like I, you know, you're accountable to your money.
50:38
You know, you're accountable to your decisions.
50:40
Like, this is life folks.
50:43
Jerremy: Yes, yes.
50:44
And yes.
50:45
Drink Starbucks or someone else.
50:48
It's up to you.
50:49
I mean, you're all making decisions.
50:52
We're all making choices.
50:53
And exactly what you said, we make the social determination and what's
50:59
responsible and what is valuable for us.
51:02
As an example, I do not personally invest into oil companies.
51:07
Robyn Ivy: Mm-hmm.
51:08
Jerremy: Why?
51:08
I, I just think it's dirty.
51:09
That's all.
51:10
That's it.
51:10
I just, it is physically not clean.
51:13
So if there's someone comes into my house and spills a bunch of oil on
51:15
the floor, I'm gonna notice it, right?
51:18
That's all.
51:18
I just don't think it's super, super clean.
51:21
So I also do invest in, uh, renewable energy systems, right?
51:27
So I have large investments into solar, into solar companies,
51:30
into solar technology, because.
51:33
To me in my, I have no clue how Solar Works.
51:36
Couldn't explain it.
51:37
No idea.
51:37
I don't know how my cell phone works really.
51:40
Like I just click a button and it things happen.
51:43
I, how are we not all using the sun?
51:45
I haven't learned that yet.
51:46
I No clue.
51:48
Can't figure it out.
51:48
It's just this free energy source that just hangs out there.
51:52
No one has to pay for.
51:53
We just boop, put on Bang energy.
51:56
It is kind of mind blowing to me that we don't do that.
51:59
Uh, and, and it's not because oil is gonna run out and there's a, there's a
52:02
finite supply and there's only a little bit, and that I don't even come from
52:06
it from that perspective, I come from the perspective of there's people that
52:09
have to work really, really, really hard and tirelessly to do all of those
52:12
things that need to be done for oil.
52:13
Where you have this ginormous thing.
52:16
Robyn Ivy: ways.
52:17
Jerremy: Yeah.
52:17
Hello.
52:18
Like, and you could just create solar energy for everyone.
52:21
Go, you, you, we, Robin, we can go to the corner of, of Utah or Nevada.
52:27
And, and take out the whole corner of the state and, you know,
52:31
500,000 acres in solar field and all of America's powered by solar.
52:37
That's all it would take.
52:38
Robyn Ivy: I
52:39
Jerremy: I mean, that's a
52:39
Robyn Ivy: you see the level of innovation that they have, but it's, again, it kind
52:43
of goes right back to the willingness to think creatively, to problem solve
52:46
with a way that keeps everybody, um.
52:49
You know, it's not a communist idea to consider everybody's wellbeing when your
52:53
amount of land is finite, but it's, you know, it's easy to prepare it that way
52:58
here, but it's a matter of understanding The resources are limited and
53:02
Jerremy: Yeah.
53:02
Robyn Ivy: need is different.
53:04
You know, like great.
53:05
Use 'em as parking lot cover.
53:07
Why not
53:08
Jerremy: Yes.
53:08
Robyn Ivy: wants their car to be cool anyway.
53:11
Jerremy: Agreed.
53:12
Yep.
53:12
Precisely.
53:13
And I think that those are just, you know, anyway, like that's things for me
53:16
to understand and be, be aware of is it has nothing to do with certain beliefs.
53:22
It has everything to do with, I want things to be easy,
53:23
fast, efficient, simple.
53:25
And the faster we get there as a society and the more we think about it and the
53:29
more we debate and have open discussions where I can just simply disagree with
53:34
you, like me and Dave don't agree on everything, although we agree on a lot
53:38
of things, um, we can have a beautiful, very easy commonality where it's like,
53:43
oh, cool, man, I think you're wrong.
53:45
And you think I'm wrong.
53:46
And high five, dude, it's love you.
53:48
You're awesome.
53:49
But that's like playing poker or playing chess or playing a sport.
53:52
There will be a loser.
53:54
It's okay.
53:56
It's not, doesn't mean that you're a bad person.
53:57
It means that you played a game over a period of time and someone
54:00
lost because of the result was you lost and someone else won.
54:04
Like, that is all right.
54:05
It's okay for that to happen.
54:08
Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
54:09
I really value multiple perspectives.
54:11
I spent like 30 years as a commercial photographer, and the entire career is
54:16
essentially wrapped around the idea that there is no one way to look at anything.
54:20
And in fact, if you're only looking at it one way, you're really
54:22
missing 99% of other possibilities of how to see something.
54:27
it's true about ourselves.
54:28
It's true about like what we think is possible with our money.
54:30
Like if you are also in your fifties, like I learned when I inherited
54:34
some money a handful of years ago, it's like you can start at any time.
54:37
Like you, your own thinking about money or your ability to
54:40
invest is the only limitation.
54:42
Because if you tell yourself that, you're gonna have to pick up the
54:45
Boulder and start going, that's also just a thought you're having.
54:48
It's not necessarily how it has to be.
54:50
That's just one thought you chose to have about what it would be like
54:53
to start getting healthy with money.
54:55
But that
54:56
Jerremy: Mm.
54:56
Robyn Ivy: to change as like, I'm gonna not have ice cream
54:59
at 10 o'clock in the morning.
55:01
Right.
55:01
It's
55:01
Jerremy: Or at night.
55:04
Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
55:04
Or whenever.
55:04
Yeah.
55:05
Or you
55:05
Jerremy: Yeah.
55:06
Robyn Ivy: however.
55:07
Jerremy: Exactly.
55:08
Robyn Ivy: knowing that we're really like a few thoughts away
55:10
from it not being a problem.
55:11
I,
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Jerremy: Yeah.
55:12
Precisely.
55:12
I, I'm, I'm gonna openly share this with all of your listeners too.
55:15
The, the week of like, Christmas week, I'm, I'm, I just eat cookies
55:20
and sugar and just get fat and just do nothing for, for a long time.
55:25
I like it.
55:26
I enjoy it.
55:27
But again, to the point of, I think it should be absolutely okay where we all
55:31
can just sit down and just relax and have a good time and, and do our thing.
55:34
But that's balance.
55:35
That's the, you can schedule it.
55:37
That's the creation ahead of time.
55:38
That's the thought process ahead of time.
55:40
That's what all these conversations are almost always gonna keep coming back to
55:43
is clarity of time, clarity of purpose, clarity of intentionality, knowing how
55:48
to sit down, think and grow rich, right?
55:51
The book is not called Work Harder to Make More Money.
55:54
It's called Think and Grow Rich.
55:55
And so we have to be able to use our thoughts and our
55:57
thoughts can become things.
55:58
And if thoughts become things, then our words create our world.
56:03
And that's why I think it's called Universe, right?
56:05
You are the verses that we speak out loud.
56:07
So if you start speaking to yourself, I do love money.
56:09
Money is incredible.
56:10
What an amazing tool that money is for myself and for my family.
56:14
I want to interact with it and grow it and expand it because it's so awesome and it's
56:19
incredible everything that it does for me.
56:22
You start speaking like that and using those words often daily,
56:26
guess what's gonna happen?
56:27
You're gonna start having a better relationship with money
56:29
and your wealth is going to grow.
56:32
Robyn Ivy: And noticing, I mean, no matter what your circumstances are right now,
56:35
noticing the abundance of blessings.
56:38
And I don't mean that in some kind of like hashtag blessed silliness.
56:41
I mean, truly looking around on a cold day and recognizing like, you are lucky
56:46
enough to have a warm place to be.
56:47
You do have someone to call.
56:49
There is something to eat in the fridge.
56:52
There is, you know, we're so resourced in ways that we just
56:55
don't say thank you enough.
56:57
You know, if, if any of this were to go, we'd care about it.
57:01
So in the moment that we have it, it's really a practice.
57:03
I think it's a devotional practice to just say, I'm gonna be as
57:07
consistent with my acknowledgement of this as I am of the lack of it.
57:12
Jerremy: Mm.
57:12
Robyn Ivy: know, you spent all this time being aware of what's not here.
57:15
What about the practice of like, thank you for what is here.
57:18
Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
57:18
Robyn Ivy: you for what is here.
57:20
Jerremy: Yes.
57:20
Well, you appreciate appreciates as Oprah Winfrey said.
57:25
So you, you, you don't, you don't pray or ask or hope from
57:30
a place of want of I have less.
57:34
Right?
57:34
It's not from a place of lack.
57:35
It's from a place of love.
57:37
Thank you for what I have.
57:38
Uh, I would love more.
57:40
It's a powerful statement.
57:41
Like, I love what I have.
57:42
It's incredible.
57:42
I want more.
57:43
And it doesn't have to be for you.
57:46
You can have more.
57:46
I want more from my cell phone.
57:48
Robyn Ivy: resourced
57:50
Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
57:50
Robyn Ivy: we feel, the, the easier it is to give it away.
57:53
You know,
57:53
Jerremy: Let's go.
57:53
Robyn Ivy: on what we don't have, we're not gonna be giving that much.
57:56
Jerremy: Yes.
57:57
Yes.
57:58
And that's, I love those conversations because I do get a little slack sometimes
58:02
when I get on stage and I say, you're selfish if you do not make enough money.
58:07
Because who are you really, truly, ultimately providing for?
58:11
If you make $40,000 a year and hey, no hate on it.
58:14
I've, I was there for a long time in my life, right?
58:17
The first 20 years of my life, 19 years of my life,
58:22
guess who I was helping?
58:24
No one.
58:25
I, I mean, maybe I would tip a waitress 15%, 10%, but probably not.
58:30
I would find ways to kind of skirt around tips, and I would do things
58:34
that I, I didn't have that much money, so I couldn't circulate it.
58:37
I didn't ever go to
58:38
Robyn Ivy: Hmm.
58:39
Jerremy: charity galas.
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Right.
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I never donated money ever to anyone for any reason.
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I didn't have any, so it's okay to go.
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I love what I have.
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I love my $48,000 a year.
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This is amazing.
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Thank you.
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God.
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Give me more.
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I know, I know there's some available, I know there's more available.
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Let me figure out how.
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Gimme the insight, gimme the wisdom, gimme the knowledge, the path,
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the opportunities, the blessings.
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Give me more because I know more is available.
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Robyn Ivy: I love it.
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Jerremy: Yeah.
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Robyn Ivy: because otherwise what are we doing?
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Jerremy: Mm-hmm.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Cool.
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Jerremy, where can people find out more about you and learn more
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about you and connect with you?
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Jerremy: I have an awesome social media team.
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Um, if anybody connects with me, they could reach out.
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Jerremy Newsome on all platforms.
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My name is built with two Rs, so my dad's name was Jerry
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and stands for Jerry and me.
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Uh, Jerremy and for my podcast solving America's Problems Anywhere that you
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listen to podcasts and on all the socials, I would love for people to reach out and
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connect with me on, on that podcast so we can continue grow, growing the platform,
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helping people see, know, and understand how we can all be a part of the solution.
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How education is going to be the root fix for almost everything that we are
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struggling over, and that we worry over.
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Because the more we educate, the more we are aware, the more we are aware,
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the more we can have a an extreme clear path on where to go to how to fix it.
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And we love having guests on the show.
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It was an absolute honor and privilege to meet you, and I am quite confident
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that we'll see each other when I pop up to Rhode Island in a month from now.
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Robyn Ivy: Yeah, I am looking forward to it and I really appreciate the chance
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to guest, host on here and hang out with you guys and share the message.
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I think it's a really beautiful opportunity to speak into wholeness
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because it's not, uh, it's no different if it's money or if it's your faith,
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or it's your relationship or your marriage or the way you parent, or
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the way you wanna serve our community.
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If we're not all in this together, then we're really not gonna make this happen.
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Jerremy: That's right.
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Robyn Ivy: Hmm.
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Thank you for this.