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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Athletic Director Wren Baker (Episode 641) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: Showtime in the Big City. We welcome you into three
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  Speaker 1: guys before the game. Our summer series continues, and oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Let me say it. Go ahead, we got a good
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  Speaker 2: one for you today.
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  Speaker 1: We do have a good one for you. The vice
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  Speaker 1: president and Athletic Director of West Virginia University, Wren Baker,
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  Speaker 1: is with us. This would be third appearance or fourth appearance.
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  Speaker 3: Huh third. This one's a little better than the one before.
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll see if this one continues.
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  Speaker 1: You've changed. I went and looked at the thumbnails of
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  Speaker 1: past episodes.
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  Speaker 3: You you know, at Big twelve meetings, the s WA's
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  Speaker 3: the senior women administrators told me I was in the
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  Speaker 3: midst of a glow up. I had to go and
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  Speaker 3: google what that got.
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  Speaker 4: Ye, a glow up, glow up a compliment?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a compliment. Yeah, he looks good.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like that. So you the way that
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  Speaker 1: you've evolved is kind of like the Bob Dylan's song
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  Speaker 1: I was so much older than I'm younger than that now.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like how you're doing. You're getting it right, hop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he does have he has a healthy glow
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  Speaker 2: about him right now. Yeah, I mean you know as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to me pasty and kind of like green.
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  Speaker 3: You need to spend some time at the beach, hopy
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  Speaker 3: he twentieth anniversary last week for actually yesterday for Heather
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  Speaker 3: and I congratulations, thank you, but we celebrated last week.
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  Speaker 3: We took a few days there in Nantucket. Two decades,
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  Speaker 3: two decades. Twentieth anniversary, putting.
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  Speaker 1: Up with you seems like twenty to rent.
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  Speaker 3: Seems like in honor of that home run. Three or
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  Speaker 3: four popcorns off the day.
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  Speaker 4: What's sold out? That's the last bag sold?
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  Speaker 3: Actually walk into the store. This is confirmed sold out.
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  Speaker 4: It did sell out, not available. It's a last back.
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  Speaker 4: Happy anniversary from us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you giving that to Heather show like that
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  Speaker 1: here with us.
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  Speaker 3: It's always good to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: Guys.
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  Speaker 1: You know something stunned me? Stunned me, I tell you, yes,
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  Speaker 1: and my research and preparation for today's show.
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  Speaker 2: Do your own research?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do? Would it surprise you? Okay, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to ask this to Brad who you I'm gonna ask
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  Speaker 1: you over under West Virginia University over under a number
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  Speaker 1: of athletic directors in school history. The number is the
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  Speaker 1: number number is pasted at eleven and a half over
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  Speaker 1: under under. Actually I messed with you. You're the thirteenth.
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  Speaker 1: But still to me, that is extremely surprising. You've been
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  Speaker 1: in the business of intercollegiate athletics for well over one
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  Speaker 1: hundred years and just to be the thirteenth that surprised me.
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  Speaker 1: Surprise you, hop Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'd have to think about that. But you had a couple.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've been through this, Perer, we had a
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  Speaker 2: couple here for you know, the last fifteen years, right
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  Speaker 2: three and fifteen years, and then we.
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  Speaker 3: Had thirty years or you know where you had two.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm making those numbers up.
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  Speaker 1: I just think it seems like a small number.
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  Speaker 3: I will tell you. The national trend is that ten
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  Speaker 3: years are getting shorter and shorter.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, like the like the preacher to move on after
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  Speaker 2: a while.
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  Speaker 1: No, in all seriousness, you followed data, what is the
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  Speaker 1: average shelf life of a power for.
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  Speaker 3: A d right around six years?
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  Speaker 1: Six? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: What if what if the football or basketball coach has
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  Speaker 2: a losing record? What's the then? What's the tender?
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  Speaker 3: It probably takes a nosedive. Uh And in those times, for.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, football basketball coach would be a little bitless than that,
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  Speaker 4: I would think, right, what's yeah?
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  Speaker 3: For they're about saying And actually college presidents are kind
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  Speaker 3: of in and around there now, they're they're they're much
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  Speaker 3: shorter tenures. You know, I mean, listen, social media all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff has put so much pressure on public positions
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  Speaker 3: that you know, they just they just turn over more.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, and so I think Uh, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: That's all part of it. And that's why I always
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  Speaker 3: say you can't do uh this job looking over your shoulder,
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  Speaker 3: because it's a it's a sure fireway to get yourself
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  Speaker 3: upside down. You just have to make the best decisions
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  Speaker 3: you can with with the most data that you can
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  Speaker 3: and and hope that ultimately that that leads you down
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  Speaker 3: the right path.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And I would imagine the short tenure is a result
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  Speaker 1: of a couple of things, some of them being that
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  Speaker 1: the money has increased so much that businesses now and
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  Speaker 1: corporate sponsors have a larger say or desire to say
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  Speaker 1: that didn't exist in the past. You get you get
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  Speaker 1: peripheral sources now making suggestions. Were in the past you
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  Speaker 1: had the old retired coach who was the athletic director.
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  Speaker 1: And now you guys, basically you're you're your businessman. Your
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  Speaker 1: CEOs is what you are. You can call yourself ad
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  Speaker 1: but you're a CEO of a major business. And as
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  Speaker 1: a result, more dollars, more pressure, more visibility.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and your knowledge of that criticism is much greater
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  Speaker 3: now because of coverage and social media and talk radio
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  Speaker 3: and message board. I mean, go back to the last
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  Speaker 3: fifteen twenty years and you know, used to you had
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  Speaker 3: to actually go pick up a newspaper and read it,
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  Speaker 3: and you know you likely didn't read all the newspapers
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  Speaker 3: across the state. Now you know, there's there's instant criticism,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's through your email or or social media or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So I think I think it's twofold. I think probably
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  Speaker 3: institutions are are a little quicker to to to want
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  Speaker 3: to move in a different direction than they used to be,
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  Speaker 3: But individuals also probably feel pressure in a different way
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  Speaker 3: and want to hit reset quicker than you spend. It's
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  Speaker 3: why I'm very, very intentional, and Tony knows this. During seasons,
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  Speaker 3: if we're going through a time when it's not great,
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  Speaker 3: I really do build a wall around myself to the
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  Speaker 3: extent that I can, because I recognize that sports what's
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  Speaker 3: what's really special about it is allows people uh to
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  Speaker 3: be passionate and emotional, irrational, and and that's that's great
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  Speaker 3: for them. But but part of your job is to
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  Speaker 3: to really try to drill down on the data and
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  Speaker 3: make analytical decisions to the best you can and put
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  Speaker 3: all that aside.
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  Speaker 1: You're looking to me, I'm looking to you. You're looking
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  Speaker 1: at me.
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  Speaker 2: You want me to get right into it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean when he wins wears lavender. You know they
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  Speaker 3: always say when you're gonna fire somebody, you should wear
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  Speaker 3: like a color like purple or pink.
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  Speaker 1: Ye hadn't heard that.
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  Speaker 3: You can google that, And so I feel like Hoppy
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  Speaker 3: wore his purple shirt today because he's just gonna be
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  Speaker 3: firing hard.
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  Speaker 1: Could see he sees on his haunches, he's ready to
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  Speaker 1: launch them. What do you have over there, Sparky?
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  Speaker 2: I just have, mister chairman, how much time do I
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  Speaker 2: have because I have a lot. I got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of questions.
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  Speaker 1: You do? What?
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  Speaker 2: What do you want? You? To? Go ahead and get
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  Speaker 2: Brad involved and then I'll get to it.
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  Speaker 3: You can't.
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  Speaker 4: You can't sit over here with four pages of notes
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  Speaker 4: and be ready to fire and then say get everybody else.
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  Speaker 4: So go ahead. The legal pad. He's got handwritten lists
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  Speaker 4: on there.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of things, A couple of things.
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  Speaker 4: I see my time on the floor to the gentleman.
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  Speaker 1: From since since he went into this what he calls
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  Speaker 1: semi retire, he's changed a lot. He's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more difficult to to handle. Is that true?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true.
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  Speaker 1: He brings his lunch to work even though he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: work here anymore. He doesn't have an office, and so
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  Speaker 1: he just kind of just kind of like mingles around
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  Speaker 1: the walls of the building. And it's kind of fun.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of sad and funny, both at the same kind.
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  Speaker 3: I will say this for Hoppy. He called me last week.
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  Speaker 3: I still don't know exactly what for, because I had
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  Speaker 3: It was the day I arrived at Nantucket and I
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  Speaker 3: and he said, he asked what I was doing. I said, well,
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  Speaker 3: I just got to Nantucket. Heather and I are celebrating anniversary.
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  Speaker 3: And Hoppy, to his credit, said let's connect when you
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  Speaker 3: get back. This is not urgent, but I have some
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  Speaker 3: questions now. It kind of still run the anniversary sit around.
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  Speaker 3: Had to sit around and think, Okay, what's this. What's
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  Speaker 3: this guy got going now? Good job, hop nice But
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  Speaker 3: at least he decided only partially run.
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  Speaker 4: Well, now you've reconnected, and now he's got questions. I
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  Speaker 4: will take a step back.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead. I think that it has been erroneous on
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  Speaker 2: the part of me and others to say how you're
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  Speaker 2: going to raise twenty and a half million dollars when
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  Speaker 2: I think it is more accurate to say you got
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  Speaker 2: a budget one hundred and ten million dollars, you can
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  Speaker 2: get one hundred, you can get twenty eight million dollars
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  Speaker 2: this afternoon. This afternoon. The key is how do you backfill? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so I think the new word is backfill of not
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  Speaker 2: twenty and a half, because you're going to have some
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  Speaker 2: natural growth anyway and revenue. So the fifteen million dollars
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  Speaker 2: has to come from somewhere, and it's I think it's
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  Speaker 2: relatively well known that you're looking at foundation and MAC,
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at institutional help, you're looking at naming rights.
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  Speaker 2: So as much as you're comfortable with be specific on
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  Speaker 2: where that backfill money comes from.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is a combination of everything above. Man,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to go back a year so ago,
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  Speaker 3: we had Heuron come in and do a massive deep
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  Speaker 3: dive into the athletic department and assessment really for the
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  Speaker 3: board for president GIF. We knew there'd be a new
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  Speaker 3: president for a new president to come in, and we
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  Speaker 3: specifically selected here on There was an RFP put out
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  Speaker 3: because they're not an athletics traditional based firm. We wanted
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  Speaker 3: the data to be unimpeachable and so here On is
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  Speaker 3: the leading national consultant for higher education for campus and
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  Speaker 3: so they come in and we said, we want to know,
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  Speaker 3: like grade us out, how did how are we doing
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  Speaker 3: in a variety of metrics, What does the future look
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  Speaker 3: like for us if we want to want to be
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  Speaker 3: competitive And you know, and and it's confirmed a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things that that we've said before. We are we
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  Speaker 3: do a really good job of raising money when compared
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  Speaker 3: to peer institutions, especially when you factor in that we
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  Speaker 3: have less premium seating than other institutions. Go to that
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  Speaker 3: if we had more premium seating, that's gonna drive donations.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to drive what you require annually, but also
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  Speaker 3: it's going to drive people trying to get in jockeying
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  Speaker 3: in position to get their hands on those. But one
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  Speaker 3: of the other things it found is that our campus investment,
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  Speaker 3: the average big twelve campus investment at this point is
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  Speaker 3: somewhere and this is student fees plus plus campus support
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  Speaker 3: around forty million dollars and we're way less than twenty
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  Speaker 3: five percent of that. And so I do think it
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  Speaker 3: was eye opening for the board. Now you know, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of priorities on campus, a lot of things
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  Speaker 3: that are important. But as we're at this situation, uh,
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  Speaker 3: in time you hear this squeaken, is this hoppies? Is
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  Speaker 3: he over here?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Their efforts, Yeah, But as you're at this moment in time,
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  Speaker 3: I think there's a value proposition to be made. How
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  Speaker 3: important are some of these things? And so, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think so it'll be a common well will increase revenues.
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  Speaker 3: We're down the path on one naming rights opportunity that's significant,
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  Speaker 3: a seven figure opportunity for the Colisseum of the or
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  Speaker 3: the lether Field to be named soon. But we're shopping
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  Speaker 3: both of those. One of those is close, and we're
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  Speaker 3: shopping other things as well. You know, we've made some
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  Speaker 3: changes to our men's basketball per seat requirement. You can
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  Speaker 3: anticipate at some point we'll probably do a receding there
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  Speaker 3: and so we're going to drive revenue. We're cleaning up
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  Speaker 3: some parking we have some over the years, we have
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  Speaker 3: people who have found ways to land grab parking passes.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is when you do that, you're cutting off
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  Speaker 3: there's a significant donation requirement for the It's not just
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  Speaker 3: that you're allowing Brad to buy ten thousand dollars blue
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  Speaker 3: light passes, whatever those are, but we charge a certain
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  Speaker 3: donor level to be able to buy, and then we
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  Speaker 3: put a cap on those and for everybody who we
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  Speaker 3: allow to exceed that cap, that's a ten thousand dollars
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  Speaker 3: donor that you're losing somewhere because they'll sell out. And
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  Speaker 3: so we're going back doing an audit of things like
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  Speaker 3: that to clean up. And so when I have reference
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  Speaker 3: in the past, we're going to have to do some
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  Speaker 3: things that's gonna upset some people. It's going to make
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  Speaker 3: some people uncomfortable. But we're no longer at a position
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  Speaker 3: where we can forego revenue when there is revenue to
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  Speaker 3: be had, so that's what we're focusing on. We've been
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  Speaker 3: growing revenue. I think over my three budget cycles here,
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  Speaker 3: we've averaged about six percent of our self generated revenue growth.
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  Speaker 3: So we've done a good job, but that in and
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  Speaker 3: of itself is not going to capture that. So you
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  Speaker 3: saw that there's a student athletic fee, which we can
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  Speaker 3: talk about some but then there'll be an increased campus investment.
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  Speaker 3: And Campus has went to the foundation and asked for
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  Speaker 3: help with that. Given campuses financial position and the Foundation
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  Speaker 3: has been very generous to support us, and so it
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  Speaker 3: really is everybody doing what they can to ensure that
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  Speaker 3: the athletic program, which we all know is important from
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  Speaker 3: a campus branding standpoint, from a state wide branding standpoint,
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  Speaker 3: from an enrollment standpoint. Ultimately, because it is a big
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  Speaker 3: attraction on the enrollment front, everybody's doing what they can
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  Speaker 3: to put us in the best position possible. Are you
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  Speaker 3: going to.
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  Speaker 2: Ask do you have a specific proposal to bring to
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  Speaker 2: the Board of governors for as you've talked about, or
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  Speaker 2: do you need to bring it to the board of
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  Speaker 2: governors of the premium seating or premium fan experience at
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  Speaker 2: the Colosseum and at Mylin Pushcars seating, which all that
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  Speaker 2: stuff is sold out. So I know you've talked generally
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  Speaker 2: about expanding that higher end fan experience which we're bringing
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  Speaker 2: a revenue and the seam of the Colosseum, So what
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  Speaker 2: specifically are you thinking about this?
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  Speaker 3: So we have a very detailed kind of press box
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  Speaker 3: side renovation expansion of our premium seating space that architects
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  Speaker 3: have dove deep into that not just the architects that
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  Speaker 3: do the renderings, but also a company called Legends which
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: is a combination. It's co owned by the Cowboys and
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: the Yankees. They've done a survey and they've surveyed if
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  Speaker 3: we build X number of new suites, new club seats,
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  Speaker 3: new what's the appetite to sell those, what premium areas
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  Speaker 3: in other parts of the stadium are you vacating? And
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: then they look at the back field of those. So
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  Speaker 3: you want to know you don't want to build a
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  Speaker 3: pro forma that's built on not doing the dominoes that
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  Speaker 3: will fall on down the line. And so the board
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  Speaker 3: has seen the results of both the architectural renderings, the
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  Speaker 3: cost estimates, but also an ROI and we're starting and
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  Speaker 3: we've been given the green light to talk to some
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  Speaker 3: donors and really that'll be what drives to how quick
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  Speaker 3: the project goes. Do you get a couple of those
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  Speaker 3: big gifts. It's like a pyramid. You're looking for one
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  Speaker 3: monster gift, two big gifts, and then you know you
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  Speaker 3: start to build out, build down the pyramid from there.
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  Speaker 3: But what you want to do is raise as much
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  Speaker 3: money as you can one you have to ensure that
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  Speaker 3: the project cash flows. You'd like for it to be
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  Speaker 3: a positive contributor to your annual cash flow right now,
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  Speaker 3: and then the more more money that you can raise
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  Speaker 3: on you know, on top of that, the more free
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  Speaker 3: capital that it's gonna it's going to bring in. So
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  Speaker 3: where we've run those exercises, we kind of know what
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  Speaker 3: those numbers are. Usually you have a silent phase of
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  Speaker 3: a of a fundraising campaign for a project like that,
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  Speaker 3: I would say we are entering the silent phase. How
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  Speaker 3: quick will the public roll out of that come? It
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  Speaker 3: depends on how most momentum we build in the silent
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  Speaker 3: phase and how quickly we build it. You stopping now
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  Speaker 3: for a minute, you got more? No, I want to
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  Speaker 3: just taking a breath over there.
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  Speaker 4: There's a flow here. If you've got flow or a
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  Speaker 4: follow up there by all means jump in.
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  Speaker 2: No, go ahead, go ahead, I got other stuff, but
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  Speaker 2: go ahead, all right, to dominate them.
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  Speaker 4: Let's move into So the revenue generation is an important piece.
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  Speaker 4: The management of all of this new stuff as it
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  Speaker 4: relates to nil and athletes is another part of that
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  Speaker 4: announced Golden Blue Enterprises yesterday. Let's walk through what that means,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: what that unit's going to do, what its purpose is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, all ready before we even entered into this
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  Speaker 3: new world, of college athletics. There were multiple athletic departments
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  Speaker 3: that have their own foundation, some that are run entirely
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  Speaker 3: out of a foundation. But when when you hear A
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: and M reference that to do something for their athletic department,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: they have to get permission from the twelfth Man. That
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: is a foundation that controls much of their premium, seeing
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: much of their fundraising that is connected to them, but
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: also separate from them. Okay, and so we have never
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: done that. We've run most of our operation out of
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: the university. W Foundation does do our fundraising in terms
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: of our MAC employees or technically WWVU Foundation employees, and
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: they also invest the money that US and other areas raised,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: and so none of that necessarily will change. We thought
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: that we needed a five oh one C three set
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: up that's going to own a for profit commercial entity
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: for a couple of reasons. One, we want to pay
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: the student athletes out of there. We don't want to
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: be encumbered by the by the bureaucracy of a higher
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: education institution when these rosters are moving so fast, like
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: just the paperwork involved in all of that.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, and you're talking about benefits packages. For lack
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: of a better term for athletes that are here, not
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: an il deals.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: That's right, the rest share payments that we're that we're
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: going to do so that so that's one of the
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: first things we wanted to do is create an entity
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that could do those, could do those quickly. Did not
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: have a bunch of processes. Also, that did not open
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: you up to potential for you request where your entire payroll,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: for your entire team, everybody is just out there for
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: the world to digest and make counter offers.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: And some of that is competitive reasons, not necessarily that
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: you want to be opaque, that's right. I mean, that's
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: a competitive balance there that you want to protect.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: That's right. If you're if your running backs having a
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: great year, you'd rather not everybody in the country that's
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: watching them put up big numbers know exactly what you're
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: given there, and so so that's part of that. But
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: then also I envision in this new world that we
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: will look more like professional sports, and we need to
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: be positioned to be able to take advantage of commercial opportunities.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: So I look at some of the things from a
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: licensing standpoint that countryals trust is done. For instance, the beer,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the bourbon, the goat pub, bar and grill. Should there
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: be a bar and grill concept that potentially could use
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: some of our name, image and likeness and we get
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: a cut of that. Should we look at the potential
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: of entertainment district type stuff. You've seen a couple of
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: those concepts roll out. I think we should be thinking
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: about all of those things. Do we ultimately move in
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: that direction or not? And I want to be clear
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: that campus still will control these entities. We're not We're
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: not giving up campus involvement and control, but I think
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: we need the freedom and flexibility to swim in those
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: waters and swimming them quickly when it makes sense for
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: us to do it and to grow our commercial business.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: You know, having an outside entity, does that open up
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: a Green Bay Packers ownership kind of concept at some
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: point where you know, the general public they don't get
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to say they don't take dividends, but they can consider
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: themselves to be a shareholder at a certain value. And
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: so I just think as we look at the future,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: it's really important to open up as many opportunities for
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: yourself as you can. And we were pretty limited in
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: the structure that we had, and if you look at
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: you know, universities or state agencies. So there's certainly lots
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: of guidelines, rules and regulations. But even with w Foundation,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: they're very entrenched in this is what we do, and
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: and they have a board, and they have a policy
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: book and rules and regulations that they go by. And
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: so we need the freedom in flexibility. We're going to
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: compete in this new world to be much more adaptable
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: and malleable so that we can very quickly scale out
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: commercial business opportunities.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, makes a lot of sense from a from a
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: university standpoint or an athletic department. Will this new group
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: also work with the various organizations the corporate sponsorship sales
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: mac to to identify and execute on student athlete relationships.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I do believe that, you know, and we're still getting
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: determinations every day. I got to invite yesterday to it
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: yet another lengthy session on interpretation of settlement implementation. But
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: the short answer to that is, yes, the rules do
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: allow us to do a certain amount of matchmaking for
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: those real nil opportunities. You know, the old the old
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: system of donors just throwing money into one big collective bundle,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: thus the name collectives, and then making up some reason
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: to pay for play is very much the target of
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: the settlement implementation they want to eliminate. That is, what
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: would still be allowed is any kind of commercial forward
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: facing business that has goods and services for sale can
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: still do deals with student athletes. They have to pass
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: the Deloitte clearinghouse if it's greater than six hundred dollars.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: They're not using the term market value, and I've heard
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Brad go off on his market value analysis and we
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: may get to that a little bit. They're using range
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: of compensation, and they're doing that based on the universe
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: of similar deals in a variety of factors. And I'm
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: sure you guys have read some of those articles without
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: me going into great detail. And so those opportunities will
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: be a difference maker. And so I imagine we will
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: have some sore of entity living in golden blue enterprises
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: that help serve, as you know, a matchmaking service for
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: athletes and students.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: So you brought up Deloitte, and again we've been using
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the term fram market value.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: But whatever the term is, they're using range of compensation.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Range of compensation, okay, but presumably it has something it's
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: in some way related to market value. Presumably you would
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: think that to try to ensure that it is something
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: other than pay for play? How is that going to be?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: How is that enforced? How is that enforced? And is
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: that subject to legal challenge? Saying well, if I wanted
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to pay them that much and it's that that much
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: value to me, how how can you say this? Not? So?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: How does that manage from that standpoint?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say everything is subject to legal challenge, right,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: like what in this world isn't I would anticipate that
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: there will be Title nine legal challenges around certain things.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: We've already seen a couple of objections to the back
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: damaged portion of the settlement based on that, and so, uh,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: but you know, we are all having to do an
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: affirmation to be a part of the c if the
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: new the CFP structure, that we're going to abide by
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the settlement and there is subpoena power and and so
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: what what will happen is you submit a deal? You
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: know your status as a student athlete? What sport do
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: you play? How you know how how how good are you?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: How many minutes do you play? What's your what's your
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: status there? Your market? What command you have of that market?
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: So one example, I saw uh where that Graham Neft said,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: who's on the settlement implementation committee, and he's the athletic
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: director at Clemson Georgia Tech. Student athlete is going to
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: get a different valuation than Georgia State even though they're
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: in the same market, because Georgia Tech has better command
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: of that market. And so Deloitte, I mean, if you
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: if you've know much about Deloitte, it's a massive company
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: with loads and loads of data. It's an AI based
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: interface and you just put the deal in and it'll
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: kick you out a range of conversation. So you have
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: really three options if if if you kick in a
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: deal and the range of conversations one hundred grand, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: you had signed this deal for two hundred grand, you
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: can either go back and make the deal one hundred grand.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: You could change the amount of activity that you were
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: going to do for the one hundred grand potentially to
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: make more value creation there. Or you could you could
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: shift some of that deal if if that was part
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: of the conversation with student athlete, maybe to the rev
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: share side, if you can fit it in there, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: you know, if they're looking at what's my total take here?
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: There there are some opportunities and avenues to uh get
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: that done, which is why those those opportunities will continue
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: to still be important.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Three you guys before the game is brought to us
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: in part by Tutor's Biscuit World. Tudor's Biscuit World is
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: asking you what would you like to see in their
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: merchandise department this coming fall. It's an open crowd sourced search.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And each week for those that are saying here and so,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: what's going to do? It's gonna highlight icon gear is
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: going to highlight iconic features in the state of West
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Virginia in other areas where the Tutors brand is located.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: So all you have to do is go to vote
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Tutors merch dot com Vote Tutors merch dot com and
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: each week, just randomly, they'll select one person that took
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: part in the survey and they get one hundred dollars
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Tutors gift card.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Are they still looking for franchisees?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you, I'm glad you brought that up.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: In fact, need one in Cheat Lake.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really, that's a really good point. There's a lot
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of stuff growing up over there in Chetlake. So they
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: are as a matter of fact, thank you. They have
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: over seventy franchises and right now they are looking for franchisees.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: If you'd like to engage with them, by all means,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: they'd be more than happy to talk with you. Also,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: three guys brought to us by Lou Wendell Marine Sales
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: in the Saint Albans and Wren justifiably pointed out that
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: none of the three others of us here on this
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: panel have received an invitation from Brad who does have
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: a pontoon boat. But Lou Wendell Marine Sales in saying,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I'll been celebrating its fortieth anniversary. They've stood the test
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: of time.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Why are you shaming bread?
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: They've stood the test of time forty years. They sell,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: they sell the they sell the Avalon pontoon boats, which
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: are made one hundred percent in the United States of
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the States of America in Michigan. What he's saying, well,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: so the Avalon tried tooned. So any kind of thing
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you need, Lou Wendell Marine, look at that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Yet another business opportunity. Because I will tell you, the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: lovely miss Heather Baker, who has endured me for twenty
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: years right really wants me to buy a boat, and Heather,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: I've owned we go, I've owned the boat before you have.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: And if you can't use the boat regularly, it becomes
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: a real problem because the maintenance of those they're made
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: to be used. And so you know when I go
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: on some of these trips. I took my girls to
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: d C last year and so we chartered a boat.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Captain shows up. He's got cold drinks. If you want one,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: sure they get takes you out there around the Statue
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: of Liberty. You take your picks. You said you're in
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: d C, not New York City, So yeah, so New
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: York City. So we went around Statue of Liberty all
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: that stuff. So I would like to charter a boat
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: on Cheat Lake. I mean I would you know, Brad
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: could the three guys perfect Captain Baker, Yeah, just a
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: day of you know, I can show up.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Lou Wendel Marine Sales happens to have the most inventory
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: that they have in the entire year is right now.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: So if you're looking anything, I say this, from anchors
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: to buoys, to oil to whatever you do.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Finders buoys on the side, that big.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Boat, the raft thing that you pull side imaging. That's
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: the cats me out and fishing side imaging. Yeah, that
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: that tells you a little bit more fish.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I got great fishing boats down there at lou Wendle.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: The G three John series.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Of course you knew that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Can I expand on the potential of.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Are we done hawking stuff right here?
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: We've got more we have we have own revenue sharing
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: issue here we gotta deal with.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: We gotta get I see sometimes comments that you guys
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: have too many advertisements, and I'm like, do you you know?
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: You do know these guys, I mean they only do
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: this thing for the money.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Correct, one hundred percent. I mean we're the first to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: say that what we're trying to do is help businesses
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: in West Virginia grow, which we've done. That popcorn that
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: we gave you, which today is fifty percent off that mountain.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: They're sold out. Don't listen to sold out.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Poppy Mountain and know the thing's amazing. And I'm serious.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Those kernels are grown in Shepherdstown, West Virginia. I mean
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that is literally the corn is grown in West Virginia.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Those people do a wonderful job. And that's a small
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: small business.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: That actually is confirmed.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: It says grown, and what's how about this deal?
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: It's the rare time when he confirmed something before.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: He said, listen, how about this?
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: What about the strawberries Buchanan?
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I'n don't bring that up because Tony will get us
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: in trouble with that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Don't don't listen there.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: We've been on a nice run where he hasn't offended
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: a group.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: So just don't. Let me just tell you how we
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: change the way.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I drove it through Buchanan on Sat. Saturday, Heather or Sunday.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Heather and I took off. I didn't know that, you know,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: we were getting all this flooding really, so we took
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: off and we drove through Hodgesville. The trip we were
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: going on, I wanted to drive through Helvisha. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: went through Pickens Hoppey. Ye are you familiar with Pickens?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I am, yes, you go near maybe uh did you
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: see the sign for maybe?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I might have seen it, but you know, uh, come
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: back through Elkins and what's the little downtown uh bar
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: and grill there that's pretty well known c J.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yes exactly.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I had dinner at c J. Maggie. So anyway, we
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: just went on a drive. Thought, hey, We're gonna go
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: out and explore. There's a great little winery in in Pickens,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: by the way, first I've heard of that. Yeah, so
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Heather brought four miss miss Baker brought four bottles of
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: of of uh of wine there. But anyway, we went
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: through Buchannan and went through down the little downtown street there.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: What a gorgeous little downtown.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Why would you disparage the strawberries there?
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: All I said was fact they don't. All the strawberries
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: that they serve at the strawberry festival aren't from Upshur
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: County or from West Virginia. They bring them in from Florida.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: It's a fact, whether they like it or not.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: GPS, last thing I know. We got to move on.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Hoby has more questions. But GPS took us down some
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: dirt roads and I'd have probably been scared if I
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: in ups County. Yeah, if I wasn't the the athletic
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: director at w I feel like it's if I can
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: guarantee you take us to the backyard brawl, I'll be fine,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: all right, you can go. But we kept seeing all
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: these little blue look like almost like an outhouse, and
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what is this, But you know, it's such
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: a rural area and they get so much weather. They're
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: little schoolhouses that they put kind of at the end
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: of the driveway or ever so often where when you're
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: waiting on the.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: School bus, oh for the bus.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: But there's actually a school in Picnic pick Away twelve yes,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: twenty four students. I was gonna say small, fighting fighting.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: They keep keep the school a lot of things, like
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: an hour and a half for some of the students.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: If that school closes, the bust to the next closest school, like.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Golden Horseshoe stuff.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: He loves me.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I love I love to get out and learn.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: So well, your other big thing was you bought that
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: four wheeler and you can drive from your house to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Bruceton Mills.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Now, oh yeah, I've been to screech Out and I'll
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: have you.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, take a wheeler there.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you take your foot.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Well, some people would call it. Some
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: people call it. He might call it a four wheeler,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: other might Others might say it's a little bit higher
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: and it's like it's like the g wagon of four wheels.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like the popemobile.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Proof they call it a can M defender and and uh
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: it's a sixth seater. I actually I got it from
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: parks here in town. They probably they may not be
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: with you guys. Maybe they should, they should be. But
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: to show you how small of a world we live
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: in here in West Virginia, you know, I'm I like
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: to negotiate a little bit. So we'll get to the
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: end to the deal, and we negotiate a little bit
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: back and forth.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: A week later, I'm at lunch with Ike Morris, well
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: known West Virginia, absolutely a very generous supporter to to
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: many causes, including w athletics. And Ike says, hey, I
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: hear that. Uh you're kind of a tight wad, that's
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about. He goes, well, my tractor guy
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: says that you squeezed him a little hard on this.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Classic track classic West Virginia. Yeah, yep.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: He thought he thought I bought a tractor some kind.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I said, well, it wasn't. I didn't buy a tractor.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: It was you know.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: But how the heck do you get to screech owl
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: from your house?
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: You do? You go Snake Hill Road, So I go
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: down Cheat Lake Road. So so I paid the extra
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: fee to get for mine to be street legal. All
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: you are street So I go down, I go down
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Cheat Road and then uh, right there before you get
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: to the Cheat Lake Vet Hospital. Yeah, uh, or see
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: the right four right after there's rock Quarry Road, I
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: think that's the name of it. And you take it
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: and you come out by the trout Pond. You know
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: about the trout pon.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: This is such a Virginia direction exactly. Come out with
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: missus Johnson used to learn at the trout Pond. Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: And then when you get so from the Trout Pond school,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: you run parallel, right, you know the uh you take
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: a road all the way to Bruceton that's two lane
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: road runs parallel with the interstate. I don't even know
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: what the road is, right, it's got something over old
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Bruston Road. That and then at Bruceton you jet back
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: over okay, across the interstate and take the first left
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: down a county road. And from there you just pray
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: to God you don't make a wrong turn. But we so,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: heather or not, it's that trip. Take Timelin's forty minutes.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I got a sound system put in my rig.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Too, Stunner. That's a stunner.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Last time I was on the way there, we listened
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: to Randy Travis Essential School. Yeah. Yeah, on the way
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: back we did Keith Whitley.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I thought, you're coming with a little Charles Wesley.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: You know, listen, I always mixed Charles Wesley.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's good.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: But uh yeah, so we Heather and I just got
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: on that thing. And then so one day we won't
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: take the girls, but we thought, hey, screech out's clothes,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: where we take them? So we found a place called
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: the Scoop little ice cream and uh diner place heard
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: of it, Yeah, in Bruceton, also a hot spot, very
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: West Virginia.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Got some machines, got a few machines out there.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Sure, if the kids just want to take their their
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: two scoop cone and go back and let it ride
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: a little bit, they can do that.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Also video rentals and and ammunition.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the girls are fans other than Reagan.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: She she did an accounting of the ice cream flavors
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: at the Scoop. It's a dozen or so plenty to
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: choose from dozens enough. But the Mountaineer Guns Shop, oh
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: here in uh Morgantown has like thirty flavors.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: A bit of a line there is there this time of.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Year, there is a bit of a line. But he's
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: got plenty of seats park playing, parking, plenty of seats.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: And so Reagan still likes to get in the side
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: beside and make a trip, but she'd prefer to get
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: her ice cream. She wants a bigger variety of choices.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: We've been joking around here, but in all semi seriousness.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Is good for you, because that's really important. I'm glad
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: you and your family are enjoying it, but that's also
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: important to West Virginians that you embrace what we are,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: what it is. You know, all the things, and there's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: a lot to enjoy here, and you're you know, you're
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: getting into it. So good for you and your family.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen a lot of cool stuff. In fact,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what road we were on. We
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: took some road and it did come out over by
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Chestnut Ridge Park. But I'm telling you this road was rough,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Like a couple of times, I was worried about the
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: side beside making it really and there was no way
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I thought we could see it was a through road.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I would have bet any amount of money that there
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: was no house on that road. There actually was a
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: house about midway on the road. I'm like, man, they
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: have a rough commute into work every day, but we
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: have seen so many cool things and have already started
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: exploring like other places that we can go. And you know,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: it's therapeutic. You learn, and that's important, but it's therapeutic
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: for me to just kind of get out and get
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: away from everything and just just ride and listen to tune.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Good for you.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I think what it does is it further underscores you
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: get the significance of what WVU athletics means to people.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: When you get into those areas. It still matters there,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Like those are incredibly passionate fans. They're there, and so
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you need to go kind of see them. We get
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: isolated in here and you just kind of lose sight,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you know. We see it best on the caravan. Yeah,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: well we go all over the place and you can
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: just see this incredible support so far away from morgantowne.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Heather, my wife takes way way too many photos, like
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: and she'll take six of the same I'm like, why
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: don't you just picture one that you liked best, Like,
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: why do you need six of these, and then she
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: can never find the ones that she needs because there's
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: too many others. But she took a lot of photos
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: speaking of that. On Sunday and we were on the road.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: We left house a little before lunch and we didn't
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: get back till eight eight, eight o'clock.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: So it was a trick.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we were out for a while, but we'd
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: just be in the middle of nowhere and there's a
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: West Virginia flag.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Oh no, absolutely, it's undefeated.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Somebody with a West Virginia cap or West Virginia if
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I may, you want to go?
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: No, go ahead, all.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: So back to some of the subjects. Although I did
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: enjoy hearing your stories, I don't think he did.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Really, I don't don't pla no I did.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I said, is that you're you're making the argument I've
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: heard you're making the argument. I think you've said it here.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: But you're making an argument that WVU, in its entirety
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: of the investment in athletics on a number of levels
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: is below the median of the Big twelve. Okay, So
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: taking those facts, which I guess either you all worked
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: them up or from the consulting firm worked it up.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: So that being the case, if you are not able
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: to do all of the things or most of the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: things you want to do, does that relegate w Athletics
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: to the bottom tier of the Big twelve?
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: No, But it does mean that we have to be
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: very careful in how we invest in where we invest
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: and we've been really really fortunate to have some wonderful
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: donors who who will step up and do those projects
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: that we cannot just fund in the budget. But you know,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: let's we just finished baseball season and congratulations to the
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: regional champ Mountaineers, and you know, we run into a
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: little bit of a buzz solid LSU that we've seen,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: so have a lot of other people. And but great
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: job by coach Savans in year one. But every year
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: we have massively increased our revenues in baseball, but we've
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: also had probably an equal or greater a mounting percentage
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: wise increased our expenses. And the problem is you started
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: with a greater expense line than you did revenue line.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: So you know, I'm hearing a lot now where we
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: have to make sure that we keep baseball in a
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: position to compete, and we definitely will. But when your
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: budget is in the lower third or so of the league.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: When you make a choice to fund something at the
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: midpoint or higher in the league, that comes at the
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: expense of other things, which is what you're getting to
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: and so you're constantly having to pick and choose. And
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: it's why rev share moved to the top of most
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: important things that we need to do. But on the
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: heels of revshare, we've got to increase scholarships. If you're
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: following college athletics, you know the scholarship limits have been
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: taken away and replaced with roster limits, but it allows
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: a lot more scholarship. So that'll be the next thing
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: that we really turn our focus and attention to, and
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: already are in many regards, and we still underspend in
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: some other areas. So when you said earlier you could
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: you have one hundred and ten million dollar budget, you
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: can find twenty million. That becomes tougher when you're trying
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: to create comparable experiences and you already spend less on
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: travel and many times coaching salaries. And you know, I've
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: said this before. I've seen a couple of athletic departments
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: that are going to try and reduce their their labor
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: force by ten percent. In terms of the number of people,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: we already are one of the smallest in the Big twelve.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: We were the smallest. I don't know what the addition
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: of the new schools if we still are. And so
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: if you enjoy the videos that we put out and
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: you enjoy the social media, but those all take manpower,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: and it takes FTEs to do those things. You know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: it takes FTEs to provide sports medicine care and strength
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: and conditioning coaches and proper nutritionists and and so.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: It is up to full time equivalent. Uh what's up to?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, full time equivalent? See of employees and so and so,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: you know, I think it is that there is a
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: challenge for us. But it's why growing this premium seating
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: is so important because if you look at where we
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: stack up in other metrics, what we make from ticket
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: sales and the number of tickets that we sell, and
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: what we make from from donations that aren't tethered to
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: premium seats, uh, what our multimedia rights are, we are
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: very comparable in all of those categories. But we have
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: to we have to create some high premium, high return
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: opportunities to change our paradigm for the future. Uh, And
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: so that really is I try and tell people all
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: the time. Coaches will come in and say, well, can
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: we do X? And I always say we can do anything.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: We can't do everything because all of these levers are connected.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: So anywhere where we pull a lever, let's just say
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: we want to be in the top fourth of the
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: of the sixteen team Big twelve. So we're number four
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: when your aggregate is twelve. That pushes some things to fifteen,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: right or sixteen. It just is the way that it works.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: And so, but the last thing I will say is
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: this is not a new problem. This has been a
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: developing problem. And if you look at our success over
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: the last two or three years, it's been incredible. Rifle
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: championship runner up in cross country. Are you know our
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: coach Clear is doing a tremendous job with that program.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Men and women's soccer continue to have tremendous success. Baseball,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: you know, our women's basketball program has been incredible. You
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: just go across. Men's basketball had a really strong bounce
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: back year this year tournament, that's no question about that. Yeah.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: But and so I think our coaches and student athletes
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: and our fans who create a great home court advantage
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: and help in home field advantage, and help create a
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: great sense of pride about the program. Have they all
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: contribute to that? And so I always try to remind
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: you we don't have to be number one. We do
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: need to get our budget to where it's in the
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: top half of the league. And if we do that,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I am confident we can compete at the top end
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: of the big twelve across the board.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Let let's do roster limits for just a second, take
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: baseball in particular, because I'm still not sure everybody understands
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: how that works. That it's there's twenty five guys on
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: the roster, but there's not twenty five full scholarships. There's
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: what eleven point seven to twelve point seven? So how
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: does that change or work in the new world going forward?
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: So as part of the settlement, I think the powers
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: that be recognized that the next big challenge was going
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: to be why do you have these scholarship limits in place?
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: And these scholarship limits were put into place several years
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: ago for two things. One to create title noin equity,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: because you need to be funding proportionally to your student body.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Both the number of ourpportunities and the number of scholarships.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: And so that's why women's basketball has allowed fifteen scholarships,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: men's basketball is allowed thirteen. That you get a few
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: more in women's golf than men's golf. They're trying to,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: you know, create as system bounce tile nine.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: The other thing, because football creates a huge m ballance,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: creates a huge imbalance.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: The other thing that happens was it was a cost
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: containment measure. Literally in the eighties then say passed a
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: package called the cost Containment Package. And so when you're
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: running a foul of anti trust issues, it's reasonable to
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: expect that a package called the cost containment packages is
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: probably up on deck somewhere. So as you're looking at
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: doing this big settlement to try to settle a lot
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: of these issues, they said, you know what, we really
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: probably can't defend the scholarship limits, but we do. All
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: of the anti trust attorneys feel like roster limits is
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: very defendable. They already in place. Every sport in the
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: United States has a roster limit. A lot of them
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: have travel squad size, you know, or practice squads, whatever
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: the case may be. So they put in roster limits
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: for some sports, it's a little aggressive. It's gonna it's
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: having to change. You've seen some of the football coaches
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: around the country chirping about it. It's having to change
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: the way that they're thinking. But they did away with
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: the scholarship limits. So in baseball, I believe they could
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: have had previously forty okay, forty kids on the roster.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: As of first day, first competition in the spring, they
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: had eleven point seven scholarships. So their new roster number.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: And there's so many numbers in my head, so if
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I get something wrong, don't send me some hateful email.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: But I believe their new roster numbers thirty four. But
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: the scholarship limit's gone, so in theory, you could give
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: thirty four scholarships. However, the settlement says any new scholarships
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: you give up to the first two and a half
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: million dollars that comes off your twenty and a half
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: million dollar rev share and so, and there's no standardized
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: system in how people are doing it. So we have
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: not added scholarships right now. But what we did do.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: The other bucket that exists out there is the Austin
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Financial Awards. So a few years ago Austin which was
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: one of our street as fillow the suit to become
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: a class action suit, and you can give academic incentives,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: and it's really up to you what parameters you put
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: on that as so long as fifty nine to eighty,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: that's the max doesn't get excelled. So we had a
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: system in place at the athletic department give out a
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: certain number of those, and then we put parameters on.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: You had to have certain GPA, whatever the case may be,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: and then your coach could come on top of that
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: if they wanted to and put additional parameters up. They
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: had some autonomy there and you didn't have to give
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: fifty nine eighty to everybody. You could say, Brad, I'm
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: gonna give you academic incentive of one thousand dollars each semester,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: but here's what you have to do to earn it.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: So most everybody in this new world did away with those,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: because that also counts against your cap. We elected two
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: since we weren't going to add new scholarships to keep
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: the Austin in place. We did that for two reasons. One,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: I told our coaches we were going to try to
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: not cut anything from anybody, and in fact we actually
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: increased what we spent on Austin two. We removed all
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: of our restrictions and so basically the only thing that
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: you have to do from the athletic department standpoint is
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: being rolled and your subject to get this. And so
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: with a sport like wrestling, whose rest share number is smaller,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: but who some of the individual athletes in wrestling command
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: can command some pretty good sized packages. They can almost
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: treat they need. If they need that Austin to be scholarship,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: they can treat it that way. But if they need
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: it to be a cash payment, they can layer it
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: on top of the scholarship. And so that's what we've
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: done for this year. I and Vision and the reason
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: why we didn't dabbling both worlds is we didn't want
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: two debits against our cap, right, we didn't want Austin
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: and new scholarship. So we said and said, hey, we're
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: gonna stay with Austin because we think it gives our
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: coaches the most flexibility. I think going into next year
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: we will probably try to convert that Austin into financial
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: aid in scholarship and even increase that. But so that's
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I got a little bit new there, But that's kind
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: of the whole thing with scholarships, But I do envision,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know that every kid on a
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: baseball roster, for instance, needs to be on a full scholarship,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: but we probably by the time we get to next fall,
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: that eleven point seven number, and you know, they probably
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: have another five right now if you add it in,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: like what the equivalency would be for their Austin allocation,
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: but they probably need at least twenty to twenty five
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: scholarships to remain nationally competitive by the next fall.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Does the university charged the athletic department in state tuition
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: rates are out of state tuition rates?
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so right now they charge us out of state,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: but then they end up waiving that out of state
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: portion on the back end, and so we get a
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: bill that we pay, but then we get a credit
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: for four point two million, which is roughly what our
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: out of state portion would be. But one of the
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: things that we're having conversations around right now is if
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: you would just make the universe of athletes all eligible
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: for in state tuition, that is very helpful in a
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: variety of ways. Ones, that reduces the expense that we're paying.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: But two, if you're allocating a dollar amount to your coaches,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: it's going to make that dollar amount go further if
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: they're not having to spend a lot more for out
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: of state kids. And in a state like West Virginia,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: where we don't have a real high population, thus we
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: don't produce a lot of Division I Power Conference prospects,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: we're going to have always have a lot of out
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: of state enrollees, and so that would be very, very
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: helpful for us. I've had conversations with with President Gee
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: who's exiting here, but also with President Benson, who are
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: both supportive. It's just trying to figure out penciling it
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: because again it's hoppy indicator. Earlier, you know, the institution's
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: financial position has been really tough, and it's easy for
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: me to say, well, don't charge me out of state,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: but they are right now, and so that's coming in
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: as a revenue stream. So if you know it's it's
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: one of those things if if I own a house
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: on the beach and you guys want to use it
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: for free, if I didn't have it, if I couldn't
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: sell it to somebody else, it didn't cost me anything.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: But if I if I already had it sold to
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: somebody else that's costed me something and so it's so
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like that it's still lost revenue to
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: the institution at this point because they are they are
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: collecting it and we just have to figure that out.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Three guys before the game is brought to us in
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: part by go mart All of us, I don't know
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: about Ren, but we all have the gomart app, and
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Brad he's a regular, uses it regularly. And right now,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: if you have that app on your phone, let me
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: just hit you with a couple of things. Buck off
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: two tick tacks, dollar off two Jolly Rancher or Twizzler bags.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: How about this? A dollar off two king size KitKat,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: payday Hershey, recey cups, dollar off two waters.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Hold on, see that's what I was going to tell you. You
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: got to get on there because those recy peanut butter cups.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: You're a fan as well. Oh yeah, those are on
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: special a lot via this app. So it's going right now?
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Is that what you just said?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right now? Dollar off two snapples, dollar off a
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: case of water. Get the gomart ad app, immediately begin
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: saving on your food and fuel.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Go for good.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: Times the way there's that kit cat slipping in their
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: big candy hitting that kit cat. Remember I told you
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Halloween the Kitkats have risen in the last couple of years.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Speak I'm a fan of I.
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: Like the kit Kats.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Speaking of great peanut butter treats, which Tony has rolled
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: with me enough to know. I'm a massive fan of
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: anything and all things.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: How can that be? Look at you, You're wasting a
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: weight to nothing.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: You know, Hoppy I have at home personal attack.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I think you go to hr on him.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably should. But so Heather has asked me
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: what I wanted for anniversary, and I'm really simple. I
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: want the same thing every time. When I was in school,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: they made these little treats. They called them Pioneer bars.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Haven't heard it.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: It's just like a probably size of a thumbnail of
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: peanut butter with a layer of chocolate on top.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Can't go wrong.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: So if you just google cafeteria peanut butter bars, which
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: I have done and found tried multiple recipes, I think
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: I have the best one. I could probably get it
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: back these at home. Heather makes them at home and
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: they're incredible.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Real peanut butter or the Peebee mix you want real
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: peanut butter in there?
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: I think it's real peanut butter.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Heather in the kitchen, pretty good.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not go there out. No, I didn't say
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: she was I just said.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Wow, thank you very much.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: My goodness, we've done.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: We're gonna end on that.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Un incredible.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I just want to.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Another question, a lot more que we just start.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna MIC's warm.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Right, here's an easy one. What's going on with the calendar?
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of debate and questions right
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: now with the calendar overall in college athletics. Where do
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: you think that lands?
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: What happens?
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: I definitely think it's going to land on one portal period.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: When do you think that portal period will be?
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: And only during that time?
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: January? Is that a summer portal period? Is it too early?
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: It's too early to get take us down a little
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: bit of a rabbit hole here to tell you why
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: there's a debate. I think it ends up being in January.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: But there are some high resource institutions out there, so
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: so you've heard the term thrown around. I'm sure of
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: front loading. So we had this unregulated period before the
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: settlement went into place, and so everybody was doing these
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: deals where they they paid athletes up front. It exploded
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: the market called you know, like all of these things,
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: different people did different amounts of front loading. We've done
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: some front loading, but but not as much as some
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: other institutions. Some institutions have done the vast majority of
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: their roster is all front loaded. So they're sitting on
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: their twenty and a half million dollars rev share and
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: they were, and they were particularly their football portion for
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: and and they're thinking, hey, we're going to clean up
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: in this portal because we haven't used any of that.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: We've reserved some of our of our rev share, you
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: know for but not near as much as some other institutions.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: We've had to use a lot of it too. And
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: so I think most of that, uh, those that concept
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: occurred in the Southeastern Conference, Big shocker, and so the
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Big Ten is really pushing for an April portal period
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: for those reasons. And so, but I think if you
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: just look holistically at what is the best date, take
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: that aside, I think most people would say January makes
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: the most sense. I think that's where this lands. I
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: don't believe you can create rules in a system for
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: what is a one time kind of anomaly that we're
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: already having to deal with it. Let's just get through
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: this next year and put the portal period where it
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: makes the most sense. And I think where it makes
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: the most sense is in that December January timeline.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: Does that then change the signing date? Is that is
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: signing date wrapped into portal opening? As I mean, it
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: seems like December doesn't make a lot of sense for
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: all this to happen, right.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think January is when it makes the most sense.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: And like listen, like people talk about, well there's a
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: disadvantage and advantage if you're on a quarter system or
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: if you know those schools get an advant Well, like
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: you can't create what got us here in the first place.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Is trying to create something that was equal there, but
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: it's impossible to do that, And so I think you
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: have to look at what makes sense for the greater good,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: and what makes sense for the greater good is one
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: portal window, and probably what's most fair of the student
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: athletes is it being in January.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Where do you stand on the ongoing discussion regard to
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: the college Football Playoff sixteen team format SEC once four.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: The Big ten once for ACC and Big twelve are
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: being told you get two and you'll like it.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's really important that we push back
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: on that and listen, I've seen the numbers being guaranteed too.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: There's some security in that our average over the last
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: ten years, if you Oklahoma and Texas out so like that.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: We've had an analytics company that's run the numbers, so
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: we know what our number would be with the current
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: league composition, and it would have been two point two.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: But two point two means some years you get three,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: some years you get one. So having at least two
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: ensures that you always have at least two, and so
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: the years you get three, you know it's gravy. But
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: the problem is with each one beyond two, it's a
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: multiple of two. And here's why. On that third spot,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: you're going to have two teams play for that spot
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: on championship weekend. So your champ game participants one and
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: two are going to play for your championship and for seeding.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: But you're probably gonna give them those two, those first
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: two aqs, But then your third AQ, you can have
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: three and six play for that, and your fourth AQ
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: you can have four and five play, so in essence,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: you create a wild card type game and you have
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: six teams and so the so then when you turn
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: back around and you look at the revenue share, which
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: you know those two leagues have already pushed and received
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: an unequitable revenue share based on performance, Well, we have
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: a look in in there, and the whole premise was
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: that we would have an opportunity to build up football
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: in the Big twelve and maybe earn a more proportionate
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: revenue share during the look in. Well, if they're able
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: to do that, then then they've cooked the books. And
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: so I think I think even though some people would
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: look at and say, gosh, you guys are idiots. You
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: could have guaranteed yourself always two and you might have
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: more some years, I just think one America doesn't want it.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: It's not fair. It it it to me is it's
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: it just goes against everything that sports is about. I
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: think you earn it on the field. But then also, uh,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: when I look at it, even though in the five
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: plus eleven the SEC could get six or seven teams in,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: I get it. And and you know what, how we
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: land on these metrics is really important and there's a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: big difference between eight conference games versus nine, or nine
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: p four games versus ten. Those things should all be
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: weighed heavily. But I just think when you look at
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: the totality of it, the four four two two should
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: be a non starter, uh for for the Big twelve
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: in acc so, I don't know where you guys were
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: on that. You guys agree, I agree completely.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: I agree, especially with the last statement you said, that's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: just not how sports work. It just it's not how
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: it works.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: And don't want to get to the point where the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Big twelve, I mean not the Big but the SEC
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: and the Big ten are dictating what how it all works. Yeah. So,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: the the college athletes particlarly in the in the in
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: the football and basketball are paid and they're performing a
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: service for an entity, yet they are not defined as employees,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: and the House settlement did not address the issue of
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: whether they are employees. And Mike we talked to Mike
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Fouryio yesterday and Foyo said, the schools really don't want
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: them to be classified as employees because that would further
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: they're already getting paid, but that would further empower them
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: and they would have more say in practices and conditions
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: and things like that. So, as an athletic director, are
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: you in a position where you you also do not
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: want them to be classified as employees or you would
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: be okay with them being classified as employees.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: I probably reside somewhere in the middle on this because
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like the exercise of some form of collective
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: bargaining is the only way to really fix this and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: end this madness. And as somebody who has to live
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: and breathe this every day, it is mentally, emotionally, physically exhausting.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: You know, when you say, do you think there it
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: will withstand legal challenges? I don't know, you know, like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: I think the settlement was a really good thing, a
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: good first step. How good nobody knows. Courts will decide
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: and you know, and and so well, that will be determined,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: and I would just love to have an answer. And
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: I think the only way to have an answer is
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: to set a table on bargain. I now, the people
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: who think that college athletics leadership are just trying to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: hold the athlete benefits down. I think had we set
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: at a table and bargained, they would have done worse
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: than what's how settlement actually got them. I think Plans
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Council did a really good job of protecting everything that
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: they had and not allowing them to have anything reduced
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: and giving them a significant revenue share. But employment has
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: massive ramifications. It makes sense for football and basketball, but
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: when you go down the road of employment and you
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: bring on those kind of benefits in those kind of processes,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: For instance, if you need to move on from an employee,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: you have to a lot of times do a plan
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: of improvement and you got to give them six months
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: to fix those things, and you know, like and so
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: you know that is problematic and different. But I think
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: the biggest issue that campuses have is it's not you
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: can't just make football and men's basketball employees. You would
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: be making all of your sports employees. But beyond that,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: you also then set a precedent for the band to
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: be employees, for the theater kids to be employees, for
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: all these other campus organizations where it truly doesn't pencil.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: So you look at wu's financial position, you look at
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: transformation and the things that we had to cut, and
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: how upsetting that was a lot of people. The amount
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: of student experience is that would be cut if you
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: made all these clubs and organizations and groups on campus.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: Employees would be massive because it doesn't make financial sense
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: to do some of those things. And then at some
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: point you get to a place where I believe colleges
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: and part what's in the books, But I think more
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: than what you find in the books, it's really about
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: what you discover in yourself during those times when I
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: think back about what I learned in college. Yes, I
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: had some great professors that taught me great things, but
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: I learned so much more about myself by going through
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: the experiences of college than the like. If you were
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: to give me the tests of any class I took,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I don't think I could pass it right now, but
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: I do remember those experiences, and those experiences taught me
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: a lot. And so if you start to diminish, forget
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: athletics for a minute, you start to diminish those experiences
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: across campuses. What do we need campuses for. We could
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: get the world's best chemistry professor on zoom right now,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: and could zoom with ten million people at once. And
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: so why do you need to go to a bricks
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: and mortar campus If you're and learn from a professor
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: who may be great but isn't the world's foremost expert
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: if not for those experiences. And so it's really presidents
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: and campuses that are saying the precedent that this would
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: set to go down the employment route would could end
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: in catastrophe for the student experience, which we know when
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: you look at student retention rates, their involvement in clubs
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: and organizations, their involvement in going to sporting events, like
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: students who are more involved stay in and have much
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: higher graduation rates than the kid who just sits in
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: their dorm room by themselves and ends up dropping out.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: And so I just think that's a really important thing
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: that a lot of people at home miss. It's not
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: just about why don't you want them to be employees.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Ren Baker, athletic Director, I'm much less averse to that.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: It's about the precedent of making them employees and what
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: that what that impact could be long term for campus.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: So I think that's why when we talk about wanting
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: some kind of federal bill, if part of that federal
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: bill was we're going to give you some limited antitrust protection,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: but we're going to make student athletes a special class
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: where they aren't employees. But they do have the ability
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: to collectively bargain. I think we could work this out.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: And so there's the way to get get that part
• 1:06:28
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• 1:06:30
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  Speaker 3: and smart water is kind of a boozy water, so
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  Speaker 3: every other game, I'll grab a bottle of water and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: I'll come out and I will be griping about why
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: do we do this?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: And Lester Hayes of the Old Raiders days came, I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: just get.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Your great Gaylord Perry would love the stickiness.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: And and so I've started asking around, like, hey, how
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: did did did Coca Cola, who I'm drinking the Coca
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Cola sponsor sponsored to Sawney Water right now? Like are
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: they did they say something? And if they did, that's fine,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: we need to We probably should be drinking their waters
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: all the time. Probably should bet re rather smart waters.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: But what I think happened is sometime along the way, somebody,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: probably Brad when he was running marketing, said, Hey, you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: guys need to put peel these labels off. And I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: think it's just being handed down from one way, one
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: manager to the next. And now we have we're just
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: sticky bottles of water. We're like sheeple, We're just we're
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: just following, following the flock. Uh and we're just and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: and and So I told Tony. I actually called one
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: of our new basketball sisters, Johnny is still over after practice.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: I said, John, I need you to do me a favor.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: I want you to do an informal survey here and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: find out if anybody knows why we removed the labels
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: off these bottles of water.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Well that's why you answered it. Just stick with the Dasani.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: I agree. I stick with the das It's it's a
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: great If we're not going to remove the label, then
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: just that O.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: Those somebody who outs beside you guys most games. The
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: smart water is not really improving the cognitive function.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Hey, while you were on vacation. While you were on vacation,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: we did a three guys event and I wish you
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: were there.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Did Hopey rode motorcycle?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: So thank you for asking. Oh I just I just
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: hit my button. I just shrunk. I say, hey, Jakie baby,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: get some of those pictures up there. Yeah, did he
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: ride a bike? Check this stuff out there. We are
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: on stage interviewing these dudes. These are the Lawrence brothers
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: who happened to be two of the biggest on the circuit.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: They are from Australia, they now make their home in
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the United States.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: Was this motorcross racing?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: I've been a lot of my brother race motocross when
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: he was in junior high. So I've been in a
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: lot of motocrosses.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: The fifties and four fifties. Go ahead, you can flip
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: through that, Jake. There we are just before Hoppy got
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: onto his bike. He looked very like I mean, he
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: was ready to go.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: And you're supposed to have the padded pants like door
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: or something like that.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Jeans hit that hit that again there is there's the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: field of competition that Hoppy. That Hoppy had the face
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: way yeah and there was a yeah. So that was
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: that was awesome. They have this great family event where
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: the little kids can run on the on the grass
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: there and it was really cute to see where was
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: this over it right over the border. Yeah, there's our guy.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: There's a guy, mister Coombs along with Hoppy. That's the bike,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: that Hoppy road.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: And you just said, good shoddy Hoppy. You look like
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: you'd absolutely know what you're doing.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Right like that.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: About an eighty C C it was.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: It was then it was an electric, it was not motorized,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: and it didn't have it did not have gears. I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: was looking forward to changing the electric.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he just he just just had to steer.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: So those motocross I think it used to come like
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: an eighty C C one five and two fifties.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Correct, these are two fifties and four to fifties. And uh,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: it's it was. It was fantastic. It was a great event.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: I said, no idea of my knowledge you should have.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: It's good, very good. Anything else JA go through. But oh,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: so you know that young lady. She is the backup mountaineer. Yeah,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: the Morgans. Oh yeah, yeah, she was. Yeah, she was
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: front and center. And there you see that shirties were.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: An eft mountaineer.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: He's a people. He's an efforting, additional additional, the alternate.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: I gotta call her alternate mountaineer, great additional mountaineer. Yeah,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: you see but on those shirts they made for us,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: our names around the back and all of our sponsors
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: around are literally all of the three guys sponsors around
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: the front.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: That's that's as good of activation as I've seen from
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: the event or organizer to do those shirts.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: That shirt's a thor shirt. That's a great brand. Fox
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: is another one that's made. Fox makes some great.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Gear's the trophy that Tony presented to me.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: That trophy is the World? No, seriously, that's the world.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: Each country races against each other each year. Australia won
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: last year and this year it's in Indiana coming up
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: in October. But that is like the Stanley Cup of Motocross,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: the world championship, the world.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I don't have the video of my ride? Is that unavailable? Jake?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Do you have the video of his ride? If you do,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: we'll run that.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: But Hoppy, I can't belate I have seen that video
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: on make the rounds on social media this week. I
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: can't believe you would want to show that.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: But let's let's harsh man, it's hard.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Let's go listen.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: But wait, but wait, there's more.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: I was impressed. Thank you, Brad, I was.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Really half thank you. Oh by the way. They also
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: let them to kick the event off on Friday. This
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: thing is massive, right, This is thousands and thousands and
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: thousands of people over the.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: Weekend national event.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, twenty or thirty thousand people. They him read the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: or recite recite the pledge of allegiance over the entire
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: PA system to start it. Knocked it out.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Well, they asked for volunteers. Nobody stepped up.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: So you said, he pause at the right at the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: right place. You know, there's some people get real offended
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: if you pause.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, he drilled it.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: There is a cadence to it.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he drilled it. But but listen, if motocross
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: isn't your thing, you're gonna like this. On July the nineteenth,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: second year in a row Stonewall Resort, WVU Medicine WV
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Cancer Institute having a golf tournament. Oh yeah, because they
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: have a young man who passed away who was a
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: student here out of blood blood disease and they have
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: this event for him. Uh, Jake hit that baby up there.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: So we're going if you'd like to join us, it's
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: going to sell out. There's gonna be one hundred.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: And twenty did the bench for coach Stuart last year.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did very good exactly.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, he doesn't.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Dates what July nineteenth, July nineteen. Brad and I will
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: be there. We'll have some special guests with us in process.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I think we're also going to do a play the pro.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I think Nate Adrian is going to be on one
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: of the par threes. You can you just Natal hit
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: a shot, You hit a shot, see how you do it.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: But tickets are available for that, and we'll be there
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: and we're very much.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: We'll Brad have his pontoon boat there at the light.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: There is a pond. Is very great, great, that's a
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: great thing.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: So well, real quick, that's a golf event you mentioned
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: at one twenty that will sell out. So if you're
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: interested to get in and then afterwards were doing does
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: and answer special guest I sent you?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Getting rid of wrap up? Can I ask one other thing?
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: No? Okay, go ahead, go ahead? Hot So I hope
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: it's an easy one.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, this legal path that he brought with
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: them treasure trove. So I love your questions about the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: way you take him so damn serious.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: Like mister committee chairman. Prior to your.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Arrival, the naming rights, which West Virginia WVU is behind
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: in the whole naming rights thing. So I get it.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: I understand it. You need the revenue. So do you
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: envision It's a two part question. Do you envision it
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: would be called? And I just make it up like
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: the Go mart Colisseum or goree Guys Colisseum or go
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: mart Field. And how do you think that West Virginia
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: fans are going to react? Because it's Mountaineer Field and
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: it's the WVU Colisseum And you may know this, You've
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: been around West Virginia a little bit, now is it?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: West Virginians are a little bit hisstant on change? So
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: how's that going to go down?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: So with the Colisseum, you know historically it's been WU Colisseum,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: and so I think with that one three Guys Colisseum
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: we would go with it, and we might get a
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: little pushback, but I don't think people are as endeared
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: to that name as they are Mountaineer Field. I haven't
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: done a survey, but but I feel fairly confident in
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: saying that. I think with Mountaineer Field we would probably
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: try to encourage somebody to leave Mountaineer in there so
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: the three guys mountaineer Field something like that. But I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: know that West Virginians get endeared to tradition. But I'll
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: tell you something else that I have found that West
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Virginia's are pretty endeared too. Is winning. And so so
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: if somebody, you know, if the if it pencils that
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: an amount that makes sense for us to do, we
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: have to look at it, even if it's slightly adjust
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: some of the things on tradition. And you guys know me,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: I'm always pretty honest in candid about those things. And
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: so yeah, so that's that's probably how it answered that. Okay, thanks, Hey,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: you guys are talking about the resort and the lake,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: so quick story that Tony's heard too many times. But
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: my wife has a convertible nineteen seventy nine.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait. I want to hear the yon.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah MG car really yeah, her her father left it
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: to her her he passed away, I think three years ago,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: of Mesothelioma. A great man, but he loved a tinker
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: with stuff. He was a fix it man, and so
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: he loved this car. I am not a fix it man,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: and I don't want tinker with anything. Go fix it yeah,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: and so, uh, this car has been the source of
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: probably eighty percent of mine and my wife's tense discussions
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: over the last three years. Really, I'm like, you know,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: and I remember early on I could see where this
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: was headed, and I said, Hey, your dad like more
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: than anything, he would want you to be safe. So
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: I will buy let's take this car and sell it,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: and I'll buy any convertible you want, because your dad
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: would not want you to take off in an automobile
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: that's not reliable. Sure, And she dead looked me in
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: the eye, and Tony knows, Heather she's pretty easy one,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: and she said, you will never sell my daddy's car.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: So that's so we know where we're at. And I've
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: spent a lot of money on this car. So anyway,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: finding somebody that works on these cars very very difficult.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: So I won't go through every step. But I called
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: somebody in town here. They used to work on them.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: But the guy retired. Call out, call this guy at
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Point Marion Road. No, we don't work on anymore, but
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: you should call this guy in Fairmont. That guy says, yeah,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: we don't actually work on those anymore, but but you
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: should call this guy in Horner, West Virginia, Horner Horner.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: It's near Weston, not too far from Jane lou where
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Rita Rogers j So. So anyway, the guy there, Robert
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: is his name. Uh, I don't know if he's a
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: Three Guys listener. He's originally from England, so probably you know,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know, but anyway, he probably. Yeah,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: he grew up working on these cars, uh, and did
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: an unbelievable job. Has the car up and running. It's great.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: So we drove, we drove there, and so while we
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: were there, we just drove around a little bit and
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: we we end up going on this road and there's
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: a little lake called stone Coal, La beautiful little stone Stone. No,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: that would be even better, but stone coal like coal.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: So anyway, uh so shout out to there's some homes there.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: A couple of W flags was up, but uh, beautiful
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: little lake. I don't know if there's you know, if
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: it's open to the public. But it was a gorgeous
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: little neighborhood in and around there cars working. Yeah, So
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: I drove there all the highway patrolman, please don't listen.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: I drove there probably going eighty five I know that's
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: a little speed limit coming back, and we were going
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: in like sixty uh head winds situation because I was
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: following the wife and and and this car.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: You went to get it and had to drive it
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: back home.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I had it towed down there.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, I understood, all right, there we go.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: So then so Heather and I rode together go get okay,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: and She's like, I'll see you at home, and I'm like,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: I have no faith that this car is not going
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: to break down. I'm not going to leave you on
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: side of the road, so I'll just follow the.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: Respect to Robert, of course, and.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: I was texting her and calling her and saying, hey,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: like can we can we go faster? So anyway, I
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: looked it up because I told her at some point
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: the way home, I called her and said, when we
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: get home, I'd like to race your car in my
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: side by side, kind of trying to be demeaning to
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: the car. And I looked it up and the side
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: a side does have more horsepower, so that so you
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: bear tread lightly. I'm back the way, so next time
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: you need help.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: We of course have listeners to the show that are
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: master mechanics I've had major lawnmower trouble that not many
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: people could have fixed. Those build like guys, yeah built,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: they build race cars. Yeah, came up and fixed my
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: mowre problem that.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: They're done around Huntington. I know those people had.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: The lawnmower problem. I have my guy's fixing it.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: It was just a it was just a he knows
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: I met him. I know that in the Law School
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 3: Hill they did.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: That's what they know. They're awesome, but really unique lawnmower
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: situation that they handled. So if you need help to.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: Introduced themselves that way. I was walking Law School Hill
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: just uh, you know, I try to walk all of
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: the lots over the course of the season. So it
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: was late in the season my first year. Here, I'm walking,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: get I stopped and talk to people. We get to
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: talking and uh and and they start telling me a
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: little bit about what they do. I said, wait a second,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: are you guys that fixed Brad's lawnmore?
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: You mean they changed you mean they told them that
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: the battery was dead. They the lawnmower that the one
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: that they said, your battery is dead, dumb ass major,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: that's what they said.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: The lawnmore they fixed it.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a dead battery.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: You have a car problem, don't go to bread.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: They came all the way up fixed it. Geniuses those guys.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: You don't need Robert the guy with the English accent
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: to figure that one out.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: John and Jason got them.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: That's cool. I like that. Uh my brother had an
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: MG O are cool?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: Is he won another one?
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: I think that we've established Wren that that is not
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: up for negotiation. Your wife, you say she's a Wife've
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: never met her. You says she's a one of his
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: wonderson and wonderful established.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like you just take that one. Do
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: you take the l move on?
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: You take that? You take that? It's up seat belt?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, okay. So I shouldn't go in all this. I
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: know we got to. We probably got a wrap. We
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: gone all the time. But so her her father's funeral
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: was in Texas. We we went to the funeral. You know,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: I had on a jacket. It's like August in Texas,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: it's like one hundred degrees. So I show up there
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: and and a friend of the family said, hey, I
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: drove your car here. And this is like an hour
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  Speaker 3: and a half from where we live, and so afterwards,
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  Speaker 3: Heather's going to do some family things and and she said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know, why don't you head back? And and I
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  Speaker 3: had to drive the car back in a sport jacket.
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  Speaker 3: No air conditioner in these cars, they don't have air conditions.
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  Speaker 2: Hit here.
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  Speaker 3: So it started poorly for me with this car, sweating profusely.
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  Speaker 3: I look like I mean, it's a small car. It's
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  Speaker 3: like a clown car with a six y three guy
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  Speaker 3: in it. And uh, it's not gotten any better. You are.
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  Speaker 2: You are diminishing one of the traditional sports cars in
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  Speaker 2: the world, the MG, which has been around four over
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  Speaker 2: one hundred years.
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  Speaker 1: New car guy, you should see his new truck with
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  Speaker 1: your wife on this His new truck completely bad.
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  Speaker 4: Fort Bronco's nice for Bronco.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. If if I I just want something, if I
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  Speaker 3: go out there and turn the key at reliably cranks,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want something that's gonna It's
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  Speaker 3: the reason why I don't go buy a boat. I
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  Speaker 3: would love to have a boat, but I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to go and get to the lake, get myself all
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  Speaker 3: jazz up. And I turned the key and it doesn't start,
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  Speaker 3: which is what happens when you don't use the boat.
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  Speaker 4: It happens from Blue Wendols.
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  Speaker 1: Don't they just turn out all the time?
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  Speaker 4: Find her fires right up, you just go.
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  Speaker 1: They provided all the boats for the James Bond movies.
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  Speaker 1: MG's for sale near Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: Are you trying to sell this on line?
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  Speaker 4: Getting sold? He just told you how They said no, No, I.
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  Speaker 2: Know whither said no, I'm just looking on the line
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  Speaker 2: here looks like the one you're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Football season tickets will will be the best in over
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  Speaker 1: a decade.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we're right now. We're trending higha since twenty thirteen,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, we still need to finish strong. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that people have responded very very well. Well.
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  Speaker 1: The Director's Cup is a point total of every major
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  Speaker 1: conference school in the country, and you get points for
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  Speaker 1: every sport. Will this be the best?
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  Speaker 3: Undetermined that final number will come in they'll do. They'll
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  Speaker 3: release that shortly after the College World Series ends because
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: those points are still being calculated. But going into the spring,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: we were twenty second overall, second in the Big Twelve. Now,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: our spring sports seasons, we don't have as many sports
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: in the spring, and so we typically lose a little
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  Speaker 3: traction there. Like you know, much to the dismay of
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: many West Virginia fans. We don't have softball, for instance,
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  Speaker 3: but so we may slip a little bit from from
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  Speaker 3: that position. But at least through this last ranking, it
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: was the best best we've been in sometime.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people are gonna be disappointed listening or
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: watching this that you did not announce the creation of
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  Speaker 1: the softball program, or that you're moving the football stadium
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  Speaker 1: over to Myland Park. It would be some great disappoint.
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  Speaker 4: Because somebody's uncle was in a meeting recently about that
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  Speaker 4: new stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Say, I tell you the d H was there. They
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  Speaker 1: staid they're going to make the road right out to that.
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  Speaker 1: You ever heard of that one?
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  Speaker 3: I must have not been invited to the meeting. You
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  Speaker 3: think I would have been included.
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  Speaker 1: That's like the mothman. That's like the moth man that's
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  Speaker 1: just out there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, a bunch of people had a couple cousins
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  Speaker 4: that are electricians that they were already called in and
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  Speaker 4: discussed the if.
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  Speaker 2: You go out there, you stay there. You see where
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  Speaker 2: they've already moved her.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Why would you bring up the moth man?
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  Speaker 1: It makes it makes it makes it makes them nervous. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we appreciate your time very much. A lot of stuff happening,
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I just want to say how much
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate everybody at home and everything that that you
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  Speaker 3: all do, because it does matter, and it matters more
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  Speaker 3: now than ever that you buy tickets, you you come
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  Speaker 3: to games, you donate when you can, because we we
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  Speaker 3: are at a very critical time in intercalege athletics and
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  Speaker 3: certainly for our program. But I do believe we have
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  Speaker 3: a pathway for success and and but it's going to
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  Speaker 3: take everybody doing their part. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Thank no, thanks for having us.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: We certainly appreciate that there is vice president and an
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  Speaker 1: athletic director of West Virginia University. I think you know
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