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Solar Eclipse Talk with Devon Landis · Urantia Radio

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Welcome to another edition of the Urancha Radio Podcast and
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today we're going to talk about the upcoming solar eclipse.
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And we have joining us a man by the name of Devin Landis and he
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is a Urancha book reader and he's also part of the
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International Fellowship Committee with the fellowship
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and present head of Yaya, which is the youth and young adults
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organization that studies and shares the Urancha book.
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And he's got some insights about this upcoming solar eclipse and
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its relevance and some great takeaways.
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So joining us this time up is Devin Landis on the Urantia
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Radio podcast. So I've always been curious to
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ask people who are more scientific minded to me, how
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does the general science of the Urantia Book hold up in your
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opinion? Oh, it's great.
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It enfranchises the mind, I would say, like with the
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universal mother spirit living in each creature and then maybe
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even paradisical patterns in the in the plants, in the trees
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especially. I'm always curious as to how
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they interpret the Ant your antubook.
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Are they generally pleased with its like the way that it
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describes evolution? Does it make intellectual sense
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what they're saying? Yeah, I think a good kicker is
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you could look at chemistry, the relationship between the
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periodic elements, and envisioned that as relationship
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stories told by the architects of the Master universe long,
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long, long ago. Somebody sent me a thing at
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PowerPoint and it's all it says is God and it's a PowerPoint and
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it shows all these parallel, like, you know, the intricacies
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of the zebra, you know, or how cells are formed or it's just an
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amazing thing, even on a molecular level, why things move
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around at all. I mean, what makes this move
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over there and get this, It's like this unseen forest that
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surrounds everybody, you know, that I there's so much
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satisfaction that I get like you in the Urancho book because of
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that very reason. It really makes you think about
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how things are structured. So the reason I had Devin on the
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show, Devin Landis, long time your anchovy reader, you're are
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you in the group that's going to go to the See the Eclipse coming
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up on April 9th? Yeah, yeah.
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Or April 8th, sorry. And you, you've got some unique
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perspective and I don't even know what it is.
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I have my perspective and you know, for the last seven years
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in my head I've been thinking maybe there's going to be a
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rapture or maybe there's going to be a global disaster or
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something is happening right now on Earth where we're all being
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tested. And I feel like we're in a kind
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of a seven-year period of something.
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So let's. Yeah, so let's, let's go back
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for people who aren't aware. But the first eclipse or the
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last great eclipse of the United States was the one in 2017, and
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it happened on Jesus's birthday, according to the Urantia Book on
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August 21st. Some of us, including Halbert
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Katson, who's been on this program a few times, he brought
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to me that the the next solar eclipse will happen on Jesus's
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resurrection day, which is April 8th.
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And that the two inter intersection, the two eclipses
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intersect at a place called Bald Knob Cross in in in southern
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Illinois. And there's enough dots there to
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kind of make you go away. What's going on here, You know.
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So how did you get involved in and what's your interest in in
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this phenomena? I'll throw a correction, which I
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think is right. I think Resurrection Day is the
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9th right? And that's correct.
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I asked Hal and I wasn't sure, but I came to a conclusion of my
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own about why the apes, the mortal, the mortal perspective
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naturally craves or rejoices in the resurrection, because it's a
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message for us as to you know what what we could expect.
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And from the cosmic perspective, from Nebadon's perspective, I
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think the day of the tomb, which is the eclipse day, is probably
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the most wonderful. Because for already eternal
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beings they still probably have a lot of questions as to where
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was Michael during that time? Like did he go to Sonarrington
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or I'm not sure which of those paradise worlds or.
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So that is why, if you were to ask me why did the second
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eclipse assuming that they were timed like intelligently by the
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by the controllers, why didn't it occur on resurrection day?
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I'll say that I think the day of the tomb is like maybe the most
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mysterious when you look at Nebadon as a whole.
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Yeah, I think you're right. Because they actually admit in
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that paper, which I just recently read, where they say we
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really have no idea what Jesus did for that 36 hours.
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We don't know where it was. And it is a great mystery.
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You know, we can all sort of come up with our own.
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I'm sure you could ask 100 different priests or ministers
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and they'd all give you an answer.
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And well, he went to the bosom of the Father.
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He went to the right hand to gain power of the of the
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universe. So what does that mean he he
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got, did he get the embrace? It does mention, however, and I
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was just reading this in paper 129 on the human Jesus.
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It just it it does say that you know the life of Jesus as it was
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completed had been fully approved by the Father.
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So he was unqualifiably happy with the results.
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So it's possible maybe that's what happened during that that
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period, you know, what do you think?
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So what's the significance to that?
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And the eclipse? Why?
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Why is the eclipse? What do you think it's a sign of
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what? What do you think is, is is
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underlying in this are they sending a message?
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What? I think it's sort of a just a
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celebratory, Worshipful situation set up by some power
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controllers or archangels of archangels or some beings in
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Ebedon or just beings in our solar system that could have the
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power to move planets. Or you know, Jesus said if you
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have faith, you can move mountain.
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So I think they've coordinated it somehow geographic or
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geometry geographically just for just as a Worshipful recognition
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and the fact is you know the intersection occurs in the state
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that the revelation has been delivered, so.
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I'm hearing things in the Christian community too.
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They're saying it's the Rapture. You hearing anything?
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About that. Well, my Christian background
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and then which I, you know, the UV upgraded me and then I don't
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neglect the old. So I sort of, I sort of looked
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at 2030 as maybe a significant date because it's a 2000 year
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anniversary at the Christ resurrection and at that or
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yeah, at that time Gabriel and the angels, they resurrected the
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the dead and there could be like a millennial resurrection of you
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know, all of so many of our loved ones who are ostensibly or
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as far as we know sleeping in the grave could be upcoming in
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just a few short years. 2030 is the the millennial time.
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So that's where my most sort of prophetic attitude looks stored.
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But I definitely think that stuff that you mentioned, like
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the war in Ukraine, I think that's one of the trumpets in
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the Book of Revelation. It says where men have tails
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like scorpions that emit smoke and they go around, you know,
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assaulting each other. Not that there haven't been
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worse in every generation, but I do believe that we are sort of
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at the point of the needle or the point of the wedge in in a
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time space where that it's going to turn out good in the end.
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But it does involve tribulations, which I think the
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Book of Revelation covers pretty well or in cat it talks about.
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I think 911 was a trumpet. Because you know, when John the
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Apostle was on Patmos, he got a revelation from archangels, and
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one of them one of the trumpets, that he wrote down what he saw,
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he said a mighty mountain falling into the sea.
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And those buildings were right on the like right on the water
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when you look at the aerial view, so.
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And then it. Turns 1/3 of the water red.
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I remember reading in Revelations about the the IT
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describes people watching this happening and describes them in
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their boats and in the harbors and everything.
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And I thought, well, that sounds like Hudson, you know, or
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whatever. The right.
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Looking up at the World Trade Center as they're coming down,
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they thought it had occurred to be.
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Yeah. Well, then then, of course,
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there's Apopka, which is the, which is another interesting
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thing. The, the asteroid that's coming
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right toward us. And it's supposed to hit.
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Yeah. And that'll be on February 13th,
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which is a Friday, and that's February 13th, 2029.
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Now, they first told us that it would only come within 20
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kilometers or 20,000 kilometers. Now they're saying that it'll
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come close enough to where it'll actually be at the same distance
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of where the satellites are. So there's all kinds of.
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Now, I'm not a physical scientist, but I know that mass
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can is attractive. And if you got this comment, you
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know how much would it have to deviate?
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And it's going to go right over America, too, right over North
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America at like 613 at night East Coast time.
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Isn't that interesting? And I And then I'm thinking, OK,
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well, maybe that's that to me. I almost feel like, and I don't
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mean to say this, but I almost feel like something will break
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and society is going to have to regroup in a big way.
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And unfortunately, I feel that a lot of people, I mean you think
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about it for a second, Devin. You know, there is a point in
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human history where there were only 100 people left of the the
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human, the, the fully developed, you know, human.
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There's only 100 of us left. I mean, there have been multiple
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times where our, our societies have been wiped out.
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You know, the great flood, when the isthmus broke it, whatever
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that is Gibraltar and the floodings and then the floodings
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during Noah's time with the the ice and the snow falling and and
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everything. So you know, it's not like God's
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going to step in there and save us, you know, because that's not
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that. That would be against his rules,
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you know, right. I mean, he would save us from
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ourselves, but not save us from just dying.
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Does this sound cryptic to you? I mean, do you think he would
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intervene and stick his hand there and prevent this?
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Or would he go, OK, it's 2029, I'm looking at the way humanity
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is going right now and maybe I don't want to save him.
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Sure. I'm glad you have a good sense
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of humor because you know, this is what's going on in my head,
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you know? I was thinking we could just
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maybe solicit the Grays to come and use one of their shunting
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mechanisms. Yeah, that's true.
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That's true. They were delighted in a project
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like that. Yeah.
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So being a relatively new, a quick question, just as one
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Erantia book reader to another. Did you have a lot of problems
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growing up Christian? Was it a big leap for you?
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Because I've met a lot of Christians that read the Erantia
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Book and they go, that's not for me, you know?
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Sorry, I'm not, I'm not going there.
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Sure. I had sort of stepped aside from
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Christianity because of the social maybe obligations.
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And yeah, I was still, I was, I went to a Christian college and
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after two years of that, I felt I should go to basically the
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third world or somewhere outside of the US So that's where I
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found the UB. I I think I was maybe destined
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to, or I was blessed to, I think.
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And then I did, you know, make AI basically returned to God
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spiritually through prayer and like even in a given moment that
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I can recall when it happened. And then after that I started
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reading the UV. Yeah.
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What was the point where it it kind of got you everybody has a
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gotcha moment. Was there any particular passage
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or something going on that that sort of connected with you, with
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your ranch Ibuka? I know for me it was probably
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when I read the first reading of the life and teachings of Jesus,
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when he gets to paper 155, I think, and he's talking about
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how you know, you can, you know, not everybody's path the same.
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Not everybody is made to serve as a priest.
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If you, if you've got God in your life, you know, then
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everything is sacred. That kind of, and it was that
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sort of approach that really got me into like, wow, it really
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touched. Me, you know, I was, I was
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living in a church, in a apartment above the church, and
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going to UMass Amherst and reading the book like, very
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diligently to try and get through it.
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And so many things were novel. But I do think I remember, or I
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do remember the sort of making a supreme decision at one point,
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just wanting to be a part of the God's plan on a personal, on a
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way that would involve me. And that was so thrilling.
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So I think that was my moment. But what got me to that moment
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was other people who I saw reading it and or other people
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who are already interested in it.
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So the community, the community wins or long?
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How did they come across to you? Just like balanced and logical
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and sort of picking off where I guess Christianity couldn't or
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didn't answer some things, but then being real individuals in
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the world, so all those things are appealing characteristics.
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Do you have people in your family who also have been turned
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on to the book, or do you have any friends that you've turned
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the book on to and have success with that?
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Sure, yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah.
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Talking about community and community, inspiring people.
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If I could do a plug for a project I'm working on.
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Yeah, it's. It's like a six year calendar
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that would start this fall or autumn reading the book, one
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section a day and only during the five work days.
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And then with two week breaks or yeah, two week breaks during
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Christmas and New Year's for six years.
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And it gets us through the whole book and making up an image
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that's like a calendar that you could cross off dates.
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So yeah, that's going to be my new project.
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Well, you might as well tell everybody how to get a hold of
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you so that if you want to maybe commensurate with others who
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would join you on that, you know.
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Sure, yeah. Might be releasing it like
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through ya, ya youth and young adults.
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Yeah with the fellowship. But I also I just got the domain
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called You read through the letter you read and then through
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THRU dot com. So I'm going to post the image
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up there and I'll just promote it at conferences.
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The essence would be to have an actual calendar that you could X
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off, but I think people might do like a reading group as well.
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Daily reading on maybe Facebook? Or Zoom or something like that.
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Yeah, maybe. I don't know.
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Right. Well, there's better ways for
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people to connect. Yeah.
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Do you go to a number of the conferences?
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And if you do, give me a report, what, what?
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What's got everybody excited these days?
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I haven't been to a U AI1 in a long time, but going to go to
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Baltimore here in just about two weeks, so that should be great.
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Yeah. I talked to a woman who came
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back from the World Religions Conference and I think a
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gentleman by the name of Byron who also went and and the the
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report is that the people are starting to get a little curious
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about the Urancha book. It's only taken them 100 years,
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you know, but we're making progress.
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Nice. You know, I'll tell you
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something funny. In the 80s and the 90s, when I
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first started reading the book and coming to grips with the
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fact that it was a revelation of epical proportions.
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You know that. I thought, well, you know,
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people aren't really hungry for it right now.
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It doesn't seem like. And now you flat flash forward
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to 2024. And now I see why the book is
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relevant. I'll just leave it at that.
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Yeah, there's there's some serious, I think, Albert,
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there's some serious issues that we have to address, you know,
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And we are an emerging, evolving civilization.
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We're a special project for Michael's home planet.
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He has a vested interest in us and our success.
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Melchizedek, Adam and Eve Caligasti would love for us to
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fail, because if we fail that means that Michael failed and
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and we're seeing this emergence of real evil in the world right
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now. And I think people are being
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forced to make a choice. Unfortunately, I don't think
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they're making the right choice. In many ways I don't know, but
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it is an interesting time. It's more interesting now than
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it was 40 years ago. And and I think I appreciate now
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more than ever what the Urantia Book's real value is, which is
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to bring to equilibrium. I mean, we are operating blind,
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you know, every person on this. Yeah, right.
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I just picked up an interesting crossover.
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It's this book called The Book of Thomas that is like a maybe a
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Gnostic gospel or one that is in It's not in the Bible and it's
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only about 20 pages. I didn't know when I was reading
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it whether it was like you be or Christian.
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It was sort of this bridge. Because I think in the Jesus
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papers, no kids in the midwers who I like to call, they're like
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Alvin and the Chipmunks. Yeah, they they reference, I
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think, this gospel according to Thomas.
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At one point in the book it says when Thomas, 'cause you know
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that Jesus and Thomas, I think at one point they spend some
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time together. Yeah, And they like come back
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and I'm not. I hope I'm not confusing with
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the John Mark story, but like, Thomas is charged not to say
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anything to them. Yeah, I I I have a recollection
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of that myself. In the in the book of the Gospel
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of Thomas that's recorded and he says to the his fellows, he's
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like, if I if I would tell you what he told me, you guys would
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stone me. That's interesting.
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Yeah. Yeah, Well, so.
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Well, look, So what are you going to, where are you going to
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stay? You're going to go to this
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thing? Are you going to go a couple of
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days early? What's the, what's the general
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plan for your Rancho book readers?
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Do you know a lot of people that are going to?
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It's in Alton, right? Alton, IL.
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Like just on the edge of town or something like that.
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I've not seen it, but apparently it's a beautiful cross.
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It's over 1000 feet. It's got the word peace at the
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bottom. I I actually googled a a few
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photos and it's got a beautiful picture.
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I'm not sure if it's pointing. Well, if it's looking eastward,
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then it's looking over the Shawnee National Forest, which
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is a beautiful. Do I have that right?
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Do you know? I think so, yeah.
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Is Carbondale, IL maybe the biggest town nearby?
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Yeah, it is, yeah. And and it's interesting because
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Halbert brought up to my attention that the prophet, one
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of the few prophets mentioned by name of the Urantia book, is
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from the Shawnee tribe. And it was.
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And yeah, and he predicted the downfall of the white man.
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Really. Yeah.
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No, no, Oh no. He denounced the vices of the
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white of the white man and predicted an eclipse in the
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1800s. And he was right.
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In that, in that exact area, yeah.
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Yeah. Interesting.
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Yeah. Well, any final thoughts you
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want to share before we part ways?
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It's been a pleasure meeting you.
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Likewise. Yeah, sure.
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Just I guess. What do you want to get out of
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the? Do you do you believe perhaps
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that that we're joining in this? You said something earlier that
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kind of stuck with me. In this event, April 8th at the
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at the Bald Knob Cross, a lot of people are going, there's going
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to be all kinds of people going, I'm guessing probably a few
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thousand people, but you know, the media is not covering it, of
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course, you know, at all. Truly.
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Right. They're they're they're covering
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the eclipse, but they're not covering the convergence at Bald
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Knob Cross, which is the bigger story.
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But they don't want to get into that messiness.
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You know, they don't like to get, you know, get too
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religious, even though everybody's hungry as hell for
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it. But do you think that we're
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going to be celebrating in concert with a greater
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celebration that is going on in our in our inner system,
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government, our spiritual, the spiritual side?
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Do you think there'll be a big celebration going on that day?
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Yeah, that's a pretty fair assumption, Yeah, that there
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would be a lot of visitors and, yeah, that a lot of heaven
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would. Yeah, I would.
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Down upon us. Maybe something miraculous will
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happen. We need a miracle, you know?
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It's a bit, yes. It is a bit of a miracle.
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Well, maybe when it's over, you can come back on and and tell us
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your experience, share your experience.
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Would you do that? Yeah, sure.
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Round two and I would say like to be anywhere in the totality
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path would be well worth it. Just just if nothing else, for
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the supremacy aspect of seeing that, maybe from the science
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supremacy aspect. It's a it's a it's a beautiful
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phenomenon And somebody recently was showing me how like leaves
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or like a shadow. I had never noticed this in
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2017, but there's like when there when there's only the
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corona of the sun visible, there's cool things that happen
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with the shadows. But yes, just on a science
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level, in the zone of totality, when the final ray of the sun is
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obscured by the moon, it's almost like a light switch.
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And suddenly the stars are out, and it's just pretty marvelous.
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Have you heard about the comet, the Devil's Comet?
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Going to be to the left of it. Yeah, you'll be able to see it
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during the eclipse they're saying.
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There. You might be able to see this
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comet, and it has a weird characteristic because of the, I
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guess it has volcanoes or something, right?
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And. On the comet?
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Yeah, and it only happens, Oh my goodness.
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And it only happens once every 77 years where we see it for
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this one day. Isn't that amazing?
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Yeah. And it happens in the zone of
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totality on the Resurrection Day.
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Nice. I mean the.
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Longer that you look at this, the more interesting it gets.
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It's like one of those, Yeah, it's just an amazing phenomenon.
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Well, listen brother, I hope you come back on and share your
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experience with us. OK, I will.
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All right, man. Blessing to be with you and
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thank you. Thank you.
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Devin Landis joining us here. I've been out of trouble like a
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soldier saying I don't want to spend my time in heaven looking
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at the walls of a prison cell. I don't ever want to play the
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part of a statistic on a government charge.
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Let's not be an invisible song in the teams of everyone.
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Let's not be an the.