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- 0:06Speaker 1: And Samantha welcome to stuff Will Never told your production
- 0:08Speaker 1: of My Heart Radio.
- 0:18Speaker 2: And welcome to another edition of Samantha Wines a Lot
- 0:22Speaker 2: or Samantha's Gin Wine Session. That's what I call it
- 0:26Speaker 2: slash happy hour. So if you are partaking of anything,
- 0:30Speaker 2: please do so responsibly. As at this point, we're not
- 0:32Speaker 2: necessarily sponsored by any of the things we talked about. Man,
- 0:35Speaker 2: I would love to be sponsored to get a free
- 0:37Speaker 2: iud I guess I technically I do because of healthcare anyway,
- 0:41Speaker 2: just the preview of what we're talking about. But yes,
- 0:43Speaker 2: so currently not sponsored by any of the things that
- 0:46Speaker 2: we talk about. As we said, maybe things will change
- 0:49Speaker 2: later and they're like, yeah, you did a great job
- 0:51Speaker 2: in representing how awful we are. Anyway, any are you
- 0:54Speaker 2: sipping on something but sipping on beer that was covered
- 0:59Speaker 2: and baklov what because the package of baklava opened on
- 1:04Speaker 2: it at Dragon con b.
- 1:09Speaker 1: It's bringing back.
- 1:11Speaker 2: All the stickiness. I love it. I'm currently drinking a
- 1:17Speaker 2: soda because, you know, just keeping it chill over here
- 1:22Speaker 2: as I am going through all the things. By the way,
- 1:25Speaker 2: we have planned an episode, the episode for our listener
- 1:31Speaker 2: participation of our watch party with Sex and the City
- 1:35Speaker 2: season three. So if you're interested, if you're still thinking
- 1:39Speaker 2: about it, you're like, yeah, you know what, I don't mind.
- 1:41Speaker 2: You don't need to have ever seen it before. You
- 1:43Speaker 2: might not even know what we're talking about. But if
- 1:47Speaker 2: you're interested in just being on the show, watching hopefully
- 1:51Speaker 2: a lighthearted episode, I think so as well as just
- 1:56Speaker 2: sitting with us talking about the issues of the nineties
- 1:59Speaker 2: that still around in twenty twenty four. So send us
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- 2:09Speaker 2: end of the show. So stick around. But yeah, we
- 2:13Speaker 2: will be doing that again. All you need is a
- 2:17Speaker 2: good internet connection, really right, and contact to our producer,
- 2:21Speaker 2: which we will provide when all the things are done,
- 2:24Speaker 2: all said and done, correct us.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Yes, and if you have headphones, that would be idea,
- 2:30Speaker 1: but you can do without.
- 2:32Speaker 2: We can make it work. People make it work. But
- 2:35Speaker 2: all that to say is, yes, we will be doing that.
- 2:37Speaker 2: We'll be coming back to that. It's been kind of
- 2:40Speaker 2: a struggle time for me the last few weeks, maybe years,
- 2:44Speaker 2: who knows, as I put it, but a lot of
- 2:47Speaker 2: things have been happening to the point that any had
- 2:49Speaker 2: to cover because I was through a really distressful time
- 2:52Speaker 2: with family emergencies and it's one of those things where
- 2:55Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, when it rains, it sking poor. And
- 3:00Speaker 2: this year has been a show with family illnesses and
- 3:03Speaker 2: deaths and all of that, and it just seems like
- 3:07Speaker 2: it's never ending at this point. There are things with
- 3:10Speaker 2: my family that we are waiting on to do like
- 3:15Speaker 2: the actual I guess treatments is the best way to
- 3:18Speaker 2: say it. So a lot of things, a lot of
- 3:20Speaker 2: things are happening on my end. Birthday is coming up,
- 3:23Speaker 2: and I still am doing that same thing where I'm
- 3:25Speaker 2: like trying to want to celebrate, but I know it's
- 3:28Speaker 2: coming and feel like this impending doom and sadness that
- 3:32Speaker 2: always creeps up on me no matter what I try
- 3:34Speaker 2: to do, which I don't understand. Is this a thing?
- 3:37Speaker 2: Is this a phenomenon? TikTok hasn't shown me anything yet,
- 3:39Speaker 2: so I don't know if this is a thing. So
- 3:42Speaker 2: if you know of this, listeners, let me know, because yeah,
- 3:45Speaker 2: I'm coming back to that season as it is September.
- 3:49Speaker 2: If y'all we're wondering as we're recording this and with that,
- 3:53Speaker 2: trying to do all of the responsible adult things that
- 3:56Speaker 2: happen in your forties, which, as my partner loves, we
- 4:00Speaker 2: put it a shmear and a squish.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Oh, I mean yeah, it was so accurate.
- 4:10Speaker 2: And I was like, where did you hear this? And
- 4:13Speaker 2: he was like, I don't know, I just made it up.
- 4:14Speaker 2: I was like, are you where did you hear this?
- 4:17Speaker 2: But yeah, so the schmear and the squish happened, meaning
- 4:22Speaker 2: I did get a pestmer as well as a squishing
- 4:26Speaker 2: of the boobies for my mimigram, which was not bad.
- 4:28Speaker 2: I had a very sweet technician nurse technician who was
- 4:34Speaker 2: the tiniest thing. I have a feeling she was a
- 4:36Speaker 2: Filipino nurse and like she's just so sweet. But I'm like,
- 4:40Speaker 2: I know, if someone pisses you off, all hell's gonna
- 4:42Speaker 2: break loose. I feel like she just had that kind
- 4:45Speaker 2: of demeanor. But it was so sweet, very informative of
- 4:49Speaker 2: everything that I needed to do. Even with the uncomfortable touching,
- 4:53Speaker 2: it wasn't uncomfortable. So I was like, thank you very
- 4:56Speaker 2: much for all of that. So I did have my
- 4:58Speaker 2: first of that I did. This is my third IUD
- 5:03Speaker 2: placement as well, because that had expired, and just in
- 5:06Speaker 2: case goes down in the next year, go ahead and
- 5:09Speaker 2: plug everything up while I can. As I like to say it,
- 5:13Speaker 2: as well as having a conversation about the perimenopause, is
- 5:16Speaker 2: this is a thing. So a lot of things happened
- 5:19Speaker 2: all the same time. Everything is healthy, everything is good
- 5:22Speaker 2: to go. I did see a bill for it, and
- 5:25Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, why am I getting
- 5:26Speaker 2: this bill? Y'all, it's unreal, Like if first of all,
- 5:31Speaker 2: we all know healthcare sucks in the US, and it
- 5:34Speaker 2: just is a reminder of how bad things are. At
- 5:37Speaker 2: the same time, the card that I have decided to
- 5:40Speaker 2: die and thank god it was under warranty, so all
- 5:42Speaker 2: of these things. It was a compounding moment. But one
- 5:47Speaker 2: of the biggest things that I kind of forgot about
- 5:50Speaker 2: was the fact that iud's locking hurt. And it's so
- 5:56Speaker 2: funny because one of my infamous moments without ever being
- 6:00Speaker 2: being a part of the show, was the fact when
- 6:03Speaker 2: old co host, good friend of mine, Caroline, good friend
- 6:06Speaker 2: of ours Caroline was talking about her experience and getting
- 6:10Speaker 2: an IUD and going through all the stuff that she
- 6:14Speaker 2: went through and me coming out with nothing. Because I
- 6:18Speaker 2: have a history of really bad cramps, a lot of
- 6:21Speaker 2: thick clotting, which turns out is that's not as normal
- 6:24Speaker 2: as people told me it was. So I was like, man,
- 6:27Speaker 2: I really wish I did have social media back then,
- 6:29Speaker 2: because at the day least I would have validated the
- 6:32Speaker 2: way I felt back then when I thought I was
- 6:34Speaker 2: like just being a whiner, which I'm a whiner, don't
- 6:38Speaker 2: get me wrong. Wing's nice, I love it, but the
- 6:54Speaker 2: fact that that point of like, oh, this is actually
- 6:57Speaker 2: those large clots are not actually as normal. It's not abnormal,
- 7:01Speaker 2: but it's not as normal as you think. So going
- 7:03Speaker 2: through all of that and then getting my first IUD,
- 7:06Speaker 2: it was a cakewalk. It really felt like I was
- 7:09Speaker 2: having a bad cramp, move on with my life. And
- 7:12Speaker 2: then the second time round, which was kind of in
- 7:16Speaker 2: the same predicament, except the fact that Trump did win
- 7:20Speaker 2: and I was panicking and I was like, I need
- 7:22Speaker 2: to get this IUD redone real quickly because just in
- 7:25Speaker 2: case goes down, which did go down, but not to
- 7:28Speaker 2: the extreme yet. But so with that, I went in
- 7:33Speaker 2: for my second IUD, and that was a lot more
- 7:35Speaker 2: painful because I had stopped having my period. I think
- 7:38Speaker 2: after the first or second year of my first IUD
- 7:42Speaker 2: and that means I didn't have as bad cramps. Like
- 7:44Speaker 2: it was delightful, y'all, Like it is the best feeling
- 7:50Speaker 2: to not have to deal with that. I will see
- 7:53Speaker 2: so having that and then but then the removal. The
- 7:56Speaker 2: first two times they put anesthetics on me, like at
- 8:00Speaker 2: least like a like a local anesthesia so that it's
- 8:03Speaker 2: not too painful, and they had warned me take somebody,
- 8:06Speaker 2: be proven before all those things. This time around, I
- 8:09Speaker 2: guess they thought that I was a pro at this
- 8:13Speaker 2: even though it had been like five six years, completely
- 8:16Speaker 2: forgot about all that. I knew it was painful because
- 8:18Speaker 2: I do remember it being removed, and I was like,
- 8:19Speaker 2: that was more painful than anything else. What the hell?
- 8:23Speaker 2: Coming in? They did nothing any They put nothing on.
- 8:28Speaker 2: I don't know why. They thought like, oh, she if
- 8:30Speaker 2: I had there's a record of me having been okay
- 8:32Speaker 2: or whatever whatnot. And I yelled to the point that
- 8:36Speaker 2: I think I scared the nurse that the nurse sat
- 8:38Speaker 2: with me to watch me one and asking me if
- 8:41Speaker 2: I needed water. After she gave out, she came back
- 8:44Speaker 2: in She's like, are you good? Do you like she
- 8:47Speaker 2: was concerned at the yelp that I did, and I
- 8:51Speaker 2: texted my friend of Caroline because the first time around,
- 8:53Speaker 2: I was like, Eh, not a big deal is She
- 8:55Speaker 2: was the most impressed. She was like, what I was
- 8:57Speaker 2: seeing color? I almost vomited all these things. Oh, was
- 9:00Speaker 2: passed out. I should have had someone drive me. All
- 9:02Speaker 2: those things to me being like, no, I went on
- 9:04Speaker 2: a run. I don't know what you mean. And she
- 9:06Speaker 2: calls and I could text it, and I was like,
- 9:08Speaker 2: oh my god, I think I figured out what you
- 9:11Speaker 2: felt because it's been so many years that I've had
- 9:15Speaker 2: that much pain and that I have not had cramps
- 9:18Speaker 2: like that. Don't get me wrong, I've had little cramps
- 9:21Speaker 2: at the end of the second ID because it was expiring,
- 9:24Speaker 2: so I guess the hormones was listening, but I had
- 9:27Speaker 2: not felt that. And the way it felt like she
- 9:31Speaker 2: had pulled a part of my uterus out with the
- 9:34Speaker 2: damn ied as well as putting it in felt like
- 9:37Speaker 2: it was shoving it up into my throat kind of
- 9:40Speaker 2: pain with a sharp needle, like it was intense. So
- 9:45Speaker 2: I don't know why she decided not to put the
- 9:48Speaker 2: anesthetic because she was talking to me through the whole process,
- 9:50Speaker 2: and there was no point where she was like local anesthetic,
- 9:54Speaker 2: da da da, there was and I was just like,
- 9:57Speaker 2: what the hell? And it hurts so badly that I
- 10:01Speaker 2: came home immediately to have all the drugs I could find,
- 10:04Speaker 2: like the ibuprofen, and then just to sleep for a
- 10:07Speaker 2: good two hours because I was in so much pain.
- 10:11Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if this is an
- 10:13Speaker 2: experience for other users who are like on their two,
- 10:16Speaker 2: second or third one. Let me know, because Caroline again
- 10:19Speaker 2: I think her second one and telling her business, she
- 10:21Speaker 2: told mine so I could tell her she didn't have
- 10:23Speaker 2: that She didn't feel like it was as bad as
- 10:26Speaker 2: her first time around. For me, as my experiences has gone,
- 10:30Speaker 2: has gotten worse each time, and for her it didn't
- 10:32Speaker 2: seem it doesn't seem like that's the case, Like she's
- 10:35Speaker 2: the opposite. I have now adjusted to it and everything's
- 10:38Speaker 2: okay with it, but like the amount of pain that
- 10:41Speaker 2: I feel, I was like, I thought we had gotten
- 10:43Speaker 2: to the point. And maybe it's just because it's our
- 10:45Speaker 2: world any where we see all the news about yes,
- 10:49Speaker 2: IUDs are painful and that we do admit it and
- 10:52Speaker 2: we should be doing something better for women, Like that's
- 10:55Speaker 2: articles that I've been reading and tiktoks. I was like, okay, okay,
- 10:59Speaker 2: so doctors have gotten the hint? They have not? It
- 11:03Speaker 2: seems they have not, And I'm confused as to why,
- 11:07Speaker 2: why how are we backing away from the fact that
- 11:09Speaker 2: this is a painful process and pretending like it's a
- 11:13Speaker 2: normal thing is absurd?
- 11:15Speaker 1: It is it really, really is. I feel like so
- 11:20Speaker 1: many things around, like periods and things like that that
- 11:30Speaker 1: people with uteruses go through, are just we're just expected
- 11:34Speaker 1: to be like, dust yourself off, go to work, right,
- 11:37Speaker 1: And it's really because this is incredibly painful, am I
- 11:43Speaker 1: being It's like gaslighting?
- 11:44Speaker 2: You are you punking?
- 11:46Speaker 1: You should be fine? You should be fine? What are
- 11:48Speaker 1: you talking about?
- 11:50Speaker 2: It might be one of those toddler moments when if
- 11:53Speaker 2: you don't make it a big deal to the toddler,
- 11:55Speaker 2: then the toddler won't make it a big deal. So
- 11:57Speaker 2: maybe that's what they're doing, what they were doing to
- 11:59Speaker 2: be except for the I'm telling you that nurse was concerned.
- 12:01Speaker 2: She was like, and I don't know if she saw
- 12:04Speaker 2: something or if it was just me yelping, you know
- 12:09Speaker 2: what I mean?
- 12:11Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I also don't I don't know if
- 12:15Speaker 1: this rings true for you. I don't know if it's
- 12:17Speaker 1: true at all, but I did have someone tell me once,
- 12:21Speaker 1: you know, the more stressed you are, the worse it's
- 12:24Speaker 1: gonna be, right, So it's possible that your stress level
- 12:28Speaker 1: is just maybe.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Oh see, it could have been. But at the same time,
- 12:35Speaker 2: I was like, but I wasn't expecting it to hurt
- 12:37Speaker 2: that badly because I'd already experienced it in the previous times. Yes,
- 12:41Speaker 2: it was painful, but not bad painful, Like I was
- 12:44Speaker 2: so underprepared because I was not thinking it was gonna
- 12:48Speaker 2: be a big deal. Like I knew what was gonna
- 12:49Speaker 2: hurt a little bit, and I knew I was gonna
- 12:51Speaker 2: cramp for a few days. But the level of like,
- 12:54Speaker 2: oh my gosh, like it was reminiscent of my college
- 12:59Speaker 2: days where I was laying on the floor crying in
- 13:02Speaker 2: a heap, telling people took off and don't come near me.
- 13:05Speaker 2: By the same time, I need a donut as well
- 13:09Speaker 2: as I need to take a shit, but I can't
- 13:11Speaker 2: take a shit because everything is just pressing against my
- 13:13Speaker 2: uters at all the body parts, and my bladder at
- 13:15Speaker 2: everything else, and everything's the worse and I'm hurt somebody
- 13:22Speaker 2: do suck. But I have to keep that all internalized,
- 13:26Speaker 2: remembering this is just hormones and it's gonna be okay,
- 13:30Speaker 2: and so keeping that in control mm hmmm, because you
- 13:34Speaker 2: have to play that role. But like all of these
- 13:38Speaker 2: moments came flooding back in two days with this process,
- 13:42Speaker 2: and I'm like, I might be going through Perry bennepause.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Talk to me about this, and my doctor's like, no,
- 13:46Speaker 2: you're not. She didn't say it that way, but the
- 13:50Speaker 2: look on her face was like, those are not the symptoms.
- 13:52Speaker 2: You need to go see the regular doctor. And I
- 13:54Speaker 2: was like, oh, well, that doesn't make me feel better moment,
- 14:01Speaker 2: And then as well as the fact that she was
- 14:04Speaker 2: just like, the good news is with this progesterone, it
- 14:07Speaker 2: does help you. So if you happen to go into
- 14:11Speaker 2: menopause or perimenopause, this will help you. And I was like,
- 14:14Speaker 2: that's true, that is true. Like I'll get a regular
- 14:16Speaker 2: dosage of hormones if I am losing hormones, So all right,
- 14:21Speaker 2: as a win, as a win, as a win, if
- 14:23Speaker 2: I can go into it that very quickly liked that
- 14:25Speaker 2: on this that'd be nice too, because the one I
- 14:28Speaker 2: did get is for eight years, so I don't have
- 14:30Speaker 2: to think about this for another eight years. Like not
- 14:32Speaker 2: everything else, but for this specifically, this process, I was like, yeah, yes, please.
- 14:46Speaker 2: But it was interesting that there was no conversation with
- 14:50Speaker 2: her and it was a woman, because I had a
- 14:52Speaker 2: previous episode about the fact that I'm very nervous about men.
- 14:55Speaker 2: I don't want men around. I would prefer women to
- 14:59Speaker 2: be there. Again, that's one of those things where if
- 15:02Speaker 2: it is a woman, it could be like me where
- 15:03Speaker 2: she was like, I didn't feel any I didn't feel
- 15:05Speaker 2: any pain, so you're not gonna feel in pain, like
- 15:07Speaker 2: basing their own experiences. So that's not necessarily the best
- 15:12Speaker 2: route you want to go, but for me, that's what
- 15:14Speaker 2: I needed. But even with her, like not that her
- 15:17Speaker 2: bedside manner is not good because I have yet to
- 15:21Speaker 2: meet a doctor that I felt like was putting an
- 15:26Speaker 2: effort to get to know me as well besides just
- 15:29Speaker 2: being a professional, which is not a bad thing, I
- 15:32Speaker 2: don't think at all, but it does put you at like, Okay,
- 15:38Speaker 2: we have a very big gap in distance, and I'm
- 15:40Speaker 2: not really sure you're hearing me or you're just trying
- 15:42Speaker 2: to placate me with just your nods. So I had
- 15:46Speaker 2: those types of moments, and she was not a younger doctor,
- 15:49Speaker 2: so I was like, oh, well, this is interesting. But
- 15:52Speaker 2: I feel like maybe younger doctors, specifically young women doctors
- 15:56Speaker 2: do try to put more effort in because they are
- 15:59Speaker 2: newer and they're like finding their method as where when
- 16:02Speaker 2: you're older you start getting really really tired and just
- 16:05Speaker 2: you're over it by this point and you have your
- 16:08Speaker 2: own way. So I just kind of wondered if that
- 16:10Speaker 2: was part of that conversation. Again, nothing was wrong, it
- 16:14Speaker 2: was just a vibe of that of like, oh, yeah, yeah,
- 16:16Speaker 2: she is so done with whether it's like being at
- 16:21Speaker 2: this hospital or being with patients or dealing with these
- 16:25Speaker 2: questions whatever, she's over it. Even though she has a
- 16:28Speaker 2: smile and nodding. Is it one of those terrifying like
- 16:32Speaker 2: get out of here, but I'm smiling as you smiles,
- 16:36Speaker 2: I will say again, the nurse was like really chill,
- 16:38Speaker 2: and she was making sure that I was rested and
- 16:40Speaker 2: to the point she's like, I'm gonna let you lay
- 16:42Speaker 2: down for a minute. Nurse, thank you so much, you're
- 16:48Speaker 2: the best. Well, like it was one of those moments
- 16:50Speaker 2: of experiences, but it all like like palpitated into this
- 16:54Speaker 2: level of like, Okay, I am forty something years old,
- 17:00Speaker 2: trying to make sure I'm all healthy. I gotta come
- 17:02Speaker 2: to these things. I don't want no bibbys, no bibbys please.
- 17:07Speaker 2: At the same time, do I have to pay for this?
- 17:10Speaker 2: I have the stress of my family that I don't
- 17:12Speaker 2: want to compound with my hopefully no bad news from me,
- 17:15Speaker 2: you know, trying to keep everything at an even kill
- 17:18Speaker 2: at the same time, like, oh my uters wants to burst,
- 17:22Speaker 2: that's fun and I have to walk out of here
- 17:28Speaker 2: when I really just want to roll into a fetal
- 17:30Speaker 2: position after you give me some good drugs. But no
- 17:34Speaker 2: drugs were had, no less. So I'm just interested, like
- 17:41Speaker 2: and I'm sure again my Monday man is probably gonna
- 17:43Speaker 2: like run around these ideas and try to look up
- 17:46Speaker 2: what is being researched on women's healths because it doesn't
- 17:50Speaker 2: feel like there's anything that does. It just feels like, yeah,
- 17:53Speaker 2: we can we can attest to the fact that it's painful. Sorry,
- 18:00Speaker 2: that's what it sounds like.
- 18:01Speaker 1: The most of the reporters, yep, deal with it. Yeah yeah,
- 18:08Speaker 1: but I don't want to either. It's fair.
- 18:14Speaker 2: So yes, that was my experience with my my again,
- 18:19Speaker 2: the squeeze part uh was great, like not great, but
- 18:25Speaker 2: was was fun like, was very like I was. I
- 18:28Speaker 2: was more nervous about that obviously than I was about
- 18:32Speaker 2: the smear, which I guess should have been the opposite.
- 18:37Speaker 2: But again, I think they've come a long way with
- 18:40Speaker 2: the way they process it. It wasn't as painful as
- 18:44Speaker 2: I thought it could be. The one thing I think
- 18:47Speaker 2: she had a like to deal with making sure that
- 18:52Speaker 2: it stayed on the table, because I don't have a
- 18:56Speaker 2: lot like that. That was That was the biggest I
- 18:58Speaker 2: think problem she I'd have had. She did it, she
- 19:01Speaker 2: made it work. So thank you to that nurse technician.
- 19:05Speaker 2: She knew what she was doing.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Thanks to the nurses.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Really, I mean honestly, when you get good ones, they
- 19:13Speaker 2: are wonderful. And there's more good ones that I've interacted
- 19:17Speaker 2: with than not. Mm hmm.
- 19:21Speaker 1: Well thanks for this report, because I told you I've
- 19:25Speaker 1: been nervous about getting a mamogram for years.
- 19:27Speaker 2: It's not bad, yeah, but it's good to hear. Yeah.
- 19:30Speaker 2: And apparently the the gynecologist's recommendations are always our early
- 19:36Speaker 2: like to do it sooner than what a physician would
- 19:40Speaker 2: put so she was saying that women the coologists would
- 19:43Speaker 2: recommend at forty which is used to be forty three
- 19:46Speaker 2: forty five I think, and that's still the recommendation on
- 19:51Speaker 2: a primary care position, but gycologists like do it earlier.
- 19:56Speaker 1: Yep, especially if you have a history of breast cancer.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Yesp well, listeners, please let us know if you have
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- 20:10Speaker 2: Resources I needed a month ago, Yeah, I should invest.
- 20:14Speaker 1: Then, yes, well you can help others. Yeah, so yes.
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