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- 0:00It is genuinely not hyperbole to say
- 0:03that at least one of the reasons we have
- 0:05a fascist or a growing fascist
- 0:06government currently in the United
- 0:08States is because a bunch of comedians
- 0:10with podcast simply wanted to be able to
- 0:12say slurs without being cancelled and it
- 0:15has brought us to this moment of hell.
- 0:16But you'll notice that some of them have
- 0:18had for a while now some buyer remorse
- 0:21and that is only increasing. Take for
- 0:23example Andrew Schultz who on this
- 0:25recent flagrant podcast had a couple of
- 0:27interesting things to say. We're going
- 0:28to play them and then I want to react
- 0:31because on the one hand I do think it is
- 0:33important to make room for people who
- 0:36have buyer remorse second thoughts about
- 0:40voting for Trump and supporting Trump.
- 0:42However, however, I also think it is
- 0:46important that if those people actually
- 0:48really do want to join any kind of
- 0:50movement or political force or have any
- 0:52kind of meaningful change in trajectory,
- 0:55especially if they are prominent public
- 0:57figures,
- 0:59they need to come clean about their role
- 1:01in all of this and they need to examine
- 1:04the depths of their own ignorance and
- 1:07the depths of their own negligence that
- 1:10brought us to this particular moment.
- 1:11Listen to what Andrew Schultz has to say
- 1:14about the ICE killing of Alex Prey and a
- 1:16little bit more about immigration more
- 1:18generally. And then I want you to
- 1:20understand how he is very responsible
- 1:24for bringing us to this moment. And
- 1:26unless he acknowledges that,
- 1:30I appreciate that he's having some
- 1:32second thoughts, but they're just that,
- 1:34second thoughts.
- 1:35>> Let's talk about what happened in
- 1:37Minneapolis. Uh, ICE murdered an
- 1:39American citizen in cold blood and then
- 1:41the Trump administration called him a
- 1:43domestic terrorist.
- 1:45>> Yeah,
- 1:45>> that's it.
- 1:46>> Yeah.
- 1:46>> Like plain and simple.
- 1:47>> Yeah.
- 1:48>> I see the administration trying to spin
- 1:50it. Um, and it's [ __ ] disgusting.
- 1:54>> It's like they didn't even have a moment
- 1:56where they're like, "Hey, we're
- 1:56reviewing the footage. We're going to
- 1:58try to see what's really happening." All
- 1:59of them, Trump and all the cronies, put
- 2:02out collective statements that
- 2:04immediately blamed an American citizen
- 2:05that was exercising his first and second
- 2:07amendment rights, right? He has a right
- 2:09to protest. He has a right to carry a
- 2:10firearm. He's a legal gun owner, right?
- 2:12There's no question about this
- 2:13whatsoever. And the administration
- 2:15immediately comes out
- 2:16>> and they try to gaslight the public,
- 2:18which you cannot do when we have 15
- 2:20different videos of what happened.
- 2:21>> Yes.
- 2:22>> And um
- 2:23>> I mean, I agree that the administration
- 2:25can't be out there gaslighting.
- 2:27And I'm not saying that he's exactly
- 2:29gaslighting about his role in bringing
- 2:32Trump to the forefront, but he's not
- 2:35exactly coming clean with his his own
- 2:37level of responsibility here.
- 2:40>> Not in the Alex Petty matter, but in the
- 2:42general Trump support matter.
- 2:43>> That is what they do though.
- 2:44>> But that is what they do. Yeah. And and
- 2:46I think that governments have probably
- 2:47been doing this for centuries, uh,
- 2:50millennia, and now you have a public
- 2:52that is armed with phones and we can see
- 2:54what actually [ __ ] happened. then
- 2:55you're not going to just lie to us,
- 2:56plain and simple like that.
- 2:59>> Fair enough. Okay, not much here to say
- 3:01one way or the other about and this is
- 3:03mostly obviously about the Alex Prey
- 3:05shooting, but you can see that there is
- 3:06some dissension in the ranks. Pay
- 3:08attention to the next clip and then I
- 3:09really, really want to dig into some of
- 3:11these details. If you see it with your
- 3:12own eyes, you know exactly what
- 3:13happened. And there's something
- 3:15disgusting that's happening not only in
- 3:17Minneapolis, I'm sure it's happening
- 3:18other parts of the United States where
- 3:19it's
- 3:20>> ICE is
- 3:23under the [clears throat] guise of
- 3:25security, right? Under the guise of
- 3:26safety, because that's what they're
- 3:27doing, right? Is every time something
- 3:29horrific happens, they keep going, but
- 3:30look at the pedophiles we got. Look at
- 3:32the murderers we got. Look at all the
- 3:33violent criminals we got. I looked at
- 3:35the numbers. It's 5% of the people
- 3:37they've deported are violent criminals.
- 3:39Yes,
- 3:39>> there's probably more pedophiles in the
- 3:41Oval Office.
- 3:43>> No, exactly. If you bring up another
- 3:44[ __ ] pedophile about deporting and
- 3:46you're not releasing the Ebstein list,
- 3:48just shut the [ __ ] up all of you.
- 3:49>> Yes.
- 3:49>> I don't want to hear anything else
- 3:51about, oh, we got to get deport the
- 3:52pedophiles. They're right here.
- 3:54>> They're right here. There are a list of
- 3:56them and you're not exposing it.
- 3:58>> Andrew.
- 4:00Andrew, buddy, [snorts]
- 4:02my friend,
- 4:05I appreciate that you can recognize that
- 4:08these issues have turned to a place that
- 4:10make them unmistakably horrible, even to
- 4:13people who might have had a degree of
- 4:15willingness to give Trump a chance. I
- 4:17can appreciate that you can see this now
- 4:20a little bit more clearly for what it
- 4:22is, but honestly, you don't really have
- 4:24that much of an excuse because this was
- 4:27easy to see from the beginning. Folks,
- 4:30and Andrew, if you're seeing this, if
- 4:32someone can send this to him, buddy,
- 4:36Donald Trump accepted the nomination
- 4:39for president in July of 2024 at the
- 4:42Republican National Convention. Look at
- 4:45the signs that people were holding up at
- 4:47this convention.
- 4:50Look at what they were talking about
- 4:52because it wasn't just the signage. The
- 4:53the mass deportations
- 4:56was a part of this. And of course, in
- 4:57order to do that, you have to take away
- 4:59people who are day laborers, community
- 5:01members, family members, right? in order
- 5:04to do mass deportation,
- 5:06in order to to put Steven Miller back
- 5:09into the White House, there's no way to
- 5:12get to the place that they want to go to
- 5:15without these kinds of heavy-handed
- 5:17tactics. How else do you think mass
- 5:20deportation exists? What do what do you
- 5:23think there's a kind and nice way to
- 5:26tear communities to pieces?
- 5:29Nobody in this country, and by the way,
- 5:31this is left and right, seems to
- 5:33understand the truth of the immigration
- 5:35debate. The number one reason why they
- 5:38are here, there are many reasons, but
- 5:39the number one reason, and this has been
- 5:41shown in research literature over and
- 5:44over and over again, the number one
- 5:45reason that they are here is to fill
- 5:47labor shortages. And we have not updated
- 5:51the immigration allotment system. how
- 5:53many we give out for H-1Bs or any of the
- 5:56variety of all the different types of
- 5:58green cards and you name it, how many of
- 5:59those we give out today. We've not
- 6:01updated that system since 1990,
- 6:041990. We haven't updated it. So, of
- 6:06course, we don't have the exact and the
- 6:09more precise a lotments for what our
- 6:11economy needs in terms of legal
- 6:13immigration because we haven't updated
- 6:15the system in over 30 years. That's just
- 6:18a reality. The economy is now three
- 6:21times the size it was in 1990, but we
- 6:24still have the exact same allotment
- 6:25system. So what's going to happen?
- 6:27There's going to be people here filling
- 6:29labor shortages who don't have a legal
- 6:31pathway because we have not given them
- 6:33one. That is that is simply how
- 6:35immigration works and we know this well
- 6:38documented. But getting back to the
- 6:40point, this is July. This is July. You
- 6:45had him on on your podcast in October.
- 6:50Did you not see the convention?
- 6:54Did you not see the other rallies where
- 6:56he talked about his plans for what he
- 6:58was going to do or where you saw similar
- 7:01kinds of signage? And more to the point,
- 7:03not only did you have him on after he
- 7:06accepted the nomination in July and then
- 7:08you had him on in October, you didn't
- 7:10ask him anything about mass deportation.
- 7:14You didn't ask him anything related to
- 7:16these questions. What was your thought
- 7:19about what mass deportation looks like?
- 7:21The answer is it doesn't matter because
- 7:24you are hopelessly out of your depth.
- 7:27That's what this means.
- 7:30You had this [ __ ] guy on. You didn't
- 7:33ask him anything related to any of these
- 7:35issues despite them project 2025. The
- 7:39again, if nothing else, the signage of
- 7:41the Republican National Convention, but
- 7:42of course, it's well beyond that. You
- 7:45didn't ask him any of these questions
- 7:47about what any of this meant and then
- 7:51essentially just endorse the guy. And
- 7:54here we are in this moment. Here we are
- 7:56in this place. Here we are in this
- 7:59disaster because you decided to take on
- 8:02responsibilities. You are poorly
- 8:05equipped to do.
- 8:08You do not know what you are doing. At
- 8:10least as it pertains to this. And I'm
- 8:13not saying this, and I swear to God, I'm
- 8:15not saying this to just donk and be
- 8:17mean. I promise I'm not. We have all
- 8:20been wrong about things, sometimes
- 8:22catastrophically so, either for
- 8:23ourselves or others. And it's a very,
- 8:25very difficult burden to carry. That's a
- 8:27true fact. But the difference is it's
- 8:29one thing to get things wrong when
- 8:31they're new and you haven't seen them
- 8:32before and you make a miscalculation.
- 8:34It's another one. This guy was already
- 8:36in office and the only thing that
- 8:39constrained him were the little pockets
- 8:41of rationality around him. All of this
- 8:44well doumented. All of this well
- 8:46reported. to say nothing of the campaign
- 8:48rhetoric, to say nothing again of what
- 8:50you saw at the Republican National
- 8:51Convention, and then you had him on and
- 8:54then you didn't ask him anything. You
- 8:57are not allowed to just waltz into, "Oh,
- 9:00well, I'm having second thoughts about
- 9:02it until you reckon with your role in
- 9:04bringing us to this hell."
- 9:08You played a very important role in
- 9:10helping him connect to parts of the
- 9:12electorate that are hard to reach. you
- 9:14made him or tried anyway to make him
- 9:16look cool.
- 9:18You guys dressed this whole thing up and
- 9:21now you're like, "Well, we don't like
- 9:22what's happening." Fine. And I
- 9:24appreciate that. I mean that genuinely.
- 9:25I genuinely think it takes somebody who
- 9:28can look at a situation and say, "I'm
- 9:29not okay with this." Even if I thought
- 9:31it might have been something else or
- 9:32this was a person that I previously had
- 9:34a, you know, fonder feelings for. Now I
- 9:36live in a different place. Okay, I can
- 9:38accept that. I genuinely can accept
- 9:40that. But you need to reconcile with
- 9:43what you did to bring us here. And you
- 9:45need to reconcile with all the steps you
- 9:48skipped that you should have taken that
- 9:50could have maybe changed at at a bare
- 9:52minimum if not the trajectory that of
- 9:54things that ultimately happened.
- 9:56Certainly at a bare minimum your
- 9:57[ __ ] contribution to them
- 10:00because it is significant at least for a
- 10:02certain part of the electorate. it is
- 10:04significant and you did that [ __ ] and
- 10:07you had every reason to know better and
- 10:10you didn't know better. You need to
- 10:12reflect on what that means for the kinds
- 10:15of things you should be doing in your
- 10:17career.
- 10:19If you have a guy who was in office
- 10:22tried to steal a presidential election
- 10:25on the way out and by the way Andrew, I
- 10:27don't know if you know this, but more of
- 10:28that is on the way. So whatever your
- 10:31revulsion about ICE, get ready, brother,
- 10:34because we haven't even gotten to the
- 10:35midterms yet to say nothing of 2028.
- 10:39You need to reconcile with what you did
- 10:42and the negligence that you uh showed
- 10:46that brought us to this hell where now
- 10:49they are tearing communities apart. They
- 10:52have they're so heavy-handed they're
- 10:54murdering in cold blood US citizens. to
- 10:56say nothing of the surveillance state
- 10:58that they're building. To say nothing of
- 11:00the harm this will do to local tax
- 11:01bases. To say nothing of the fact that
- 11:04now we have prominent immigrants now
- 11:06leaving the country because of the
- 11:07broader climate of fear that it is
- 11:09creating. To say nothing of the nose
- 11:11dive that has happened to tourism
- 11:13because who the [ __ ] wants to come here
- 11:15when anyone who has any kind of even
- 11:17remotely shaky immigration status, even
- 11:19if it's actually not even shaky, now has
- 11:21to face the the potential of ending up
- 11:23in ICE custody.
- 11:25You played a role in this one. You did.
- 11:29You did. And it's not one of these cases
- 11:31where I just didn't know it was going to
- 11:33be like this. Yeah, I bet you didn't
- 11:34know if you didn't bother to
- 11:36[ __ ] ask. And maybe he gives
- 11:39you a [ __ ] answer in that time when
- 11:41you had him on the podcast. This is a
- 11:43moment for you, and I mean this
- 11:44sincerely from a person to another
- 11:46person. This is a moment for you to
- 11:49reflect on your various and significant
- 11:52and frankly to everybody else obvious
- 11:54failures that contributed to a dark and
- 11:57potentially trajectory altering moment
- 12:00of political time in the United States.
- 12:02Of course, I'm not putting all the blame
- 12:03on you. That would be silly. I'm not
- 12:05suggesting as much. And there's other
- 12:06podcasters who did worse than this who
- 12:08were bigger than you. I understand. I'm
- 12:11not I swear to God, I'm not trying to
- 12:13dunk. But coming out and making these
- 12:16statements
- 12:17like, "Well, I don't like what's
- 12:19happening here and this is bullshit." I
- 12:20agree with you. You're right. Your
- 12:22diagnosis of what happened here is
- 12:24right. But not too long ago, about year
- 12:27and a half ago, you had an opportunity
- 12:30to to do your homework and ask him about
- 12:32some of these things and have a more
- 12:34honest conversation. But that wouldn't
- 12:36have been the fun kind of chummy
- 12:38interview that you guys did. and instead
- 12:41you made a dude who tried to steal a
- 12:43presidential election who now has a a
- 12:46paramilitary force that is on a mission
- 12:49to create an ethnostate and they don't
- 12:51care who they hurt or who they kill in
- 12:53the process to do it and now you don't
- 12:55like that. Well, congratulations. I
- 12:57agree. You shouldn't like that kind of a
- 12:59thing. But your role in contributing to
- 13:02it needs to be examined not by us
- 13:04anymore, but by you. And a public
- 13:07reckoning by by you needs to happen
- 13:11because there's a lot of people who out
- 13:13there might have second thoughts, but
- 13:15the ones who cheerleaded it from a
- 13:16public standpoint, you have an
- 13:18obligation to own up to your own
- 13:20failures. And this is honestly one of
- 13:24these ones that might stain your career
- 13:25and your life for for eternity.
- 13:30Putting this guy back into office might
- 13:32be one of the most cataclysmic things
- 13:34this country has ever done. And you
- 13:37putting a little spit shine on him on
- 13:39his way back into office is not
- 13:41something that we're soon going to
- 13:42forget. But if you at least make an
- 13:44effort at acknowledging that and you at
- 13:46least make an effort in recognizing that
- 13:48and then changing your behavior around
- 13:50that, there is, I think, some level of
- 13:52understanding that will be afforded to
- 13:54you. But all this [ __ ] about you
- 13:57coming out and I don't like this and
- 13:58that's bad for immigration. Brother,
- 14:01brother,
- 14:02take a nice long look in the mirror.
- 14:05Take a nice long look in the mirror
- 14:08because you helped do this more so than
- 14:11a lot of other public figures and in in
- 14:14ways that will not and cannot be forget
- 14:18easily forgiven, fixed and undone if
- 14:20they can be fixed at all. It is time for
- 14:23you to have a public reckoning about
- 14:26your failures. And honestly, only you
- 14:29can really do that. Get to it, please.