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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 091526 - The Simplicity of Freedom: Status, Jurisdiction, and Standing Your Ground · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: There's
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  our cue.
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  There's our cue from Alvin Lee. So many decades ago, so prophetic Roger Sails with you. Chris Caves along here from the start.
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  It is, of course, the Radio Ranch and People's Patriot Network, and the date of today's program is the second day of April,
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  year twenty
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  nineteen,
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  Mr. Chris.
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  And I guess as I was talking with Chris just briefly before the show, the biggest thing this morning that I saw within the last hour is the spike of Bitcoin
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  overnight and this morning, and the price is up over 10%.
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  That's nice. It was up even more than that overnight.
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  It's dropped back a few $100 but the fact that we're got a nice little upward spike is the biggest spike, Chris,
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  since back in December
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  '17
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  on that faithful morning when we were on the air here. I don't remember if you were with us, but I know that in the first thirty minutes of the program,
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  Darrell called in and he was watching the ticker tape there
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  and
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  for the next thirty minutes, Bitcoin went from
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  $12,000
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  to $20,000
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  something like that in about thirty minutes. It was one of the most amazing things to be right there on top of it and on the air live and it was like
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  I had another experience with this, Chris, when I was young.
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  You know, I was in
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  Alaska. I lived in Alaska for the whole years I was in high school in Anchorage,
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  and my father was stationed there at Elmendorf.
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  And I was there during that big earthquake,
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  which turns out now to be the
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  third biggest
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  earthquake ever recorded.
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  And
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  when it happened, of course, all the electricity, everything was out. It was just total.
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  Man, it just is a weird
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  I could probably do a whole hour on just the things I remember but
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  that night, we were listening. The only communication
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  we had was, got a guess?
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  Unknown: Ray. Shortwave.
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  Unknown: Radio,
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  okay?
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  And we were listening to the radio and my father was a big shortwave
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  advocate. In fact, I I had for many years. I may still have some habit somewhere. One of the old Zenith Trans Oceanic shortwave radios, this big boxy thing, and you could get all kinds of it was a real nice radio for its day, and you could get all the radio Russia and all that stuff, and we used to do that in Alaska.
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  So we
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  dragged out the radio, and I don't think it was the wave we were listening to. I think it was some local station had gotten
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  their equipment back up where they could broadcast.
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  But when
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  that tsunami hit,
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  cause there was a real big tidal wave, a tsunami that was generated off of that earthquake, and the most devastating
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  that it did not locally,
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  but it wiped out an entire California town.
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  And it was one of those towns on the West Coast that's on a bay,
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  and the town faced north on the bay, and that wave came out of the Northwest, and it just totally I believe the name of the town is Crescent City, California,
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  and it just totally wiped it out.
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  But it also wiped out Seward, which is a town there South of Anchorage in Alaska on the Gulf Of Alaska,
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  and also had a pretty dramatic effect on Valdez.
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  And we were listening to the radio and as that tsunami hit Seward,
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  the guy in the back, you know, they were they had some sort of a UPI wire or something going. That was the way they used to do things, you know, ticker tape and that kind of stuff, the wire they called it, and you could hear the guy rip it off of the cage, you know, where the where the paper comes off. Here's
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  a hot one and he comes over and gives it right to the announcers and the guy goes, a tidal wave just hit Seward. So I I remember those kind of things, you know, that stuck in my mind for many years.
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  So anyway, we're on the cusp of a lot of stuff happening,
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  it's just It's it. Oh, man, I mean, just Well, I mean, in this world that we're sitting on top of Yeah. Everything
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  is percolating,
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  and it's just like the whole surface of the earth is when you got a pot of water or something on the stove and you can see just about when it's going to come to a boil, you know, and that's just about where we are. We're in the early bubbling stage that I can see right now and the the thing. Go
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  Unknown: ahead. Remember that song called Hot Coffee.
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  Unknown: Yep, sure do. Sure do. Lot of people use it as bumper stuff but you know, and the one thing that I can sit here and say since sincerely this morning is that for me personally,
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  over all these years, what what do you spend all this time doing stuff for?
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  I mean, what do you spend all this time studying for? What do you go through these grief periods for and these incidents that we gotta go for? The whole thing is to get a a body of knowledge
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  where you can really understand what's happening so you can make correct
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  decisions.
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  That's where it comes down to that all this stuff that we do is that so we can get to a point where we can make correct decisions because the system is inimical
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  inimicably
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  against you and designed to absolutely clean your clock and suck your essence.
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  Unknown: And what this information allows us to do Absolutely Roger, is you know if you and the accurate information
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  Unknown: I
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  was just going say, let me finish it. So we can get that knowledge and make these correct decisions where we can do things like a year ago, those but purchase some of these carat bar coins, buy gold, and then most of us have been holding some form and some amount of silver
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  and gold for a long time and waiting for these days that we're right on the verge of. Go ahead, Chris.
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  Unknown: Well, I was only going to say that the degree of accuracy of the truth that you found your decisions on has a direct relationship
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  Unknown: on the outcome of your investment strategies to protect your wealth. And that's got a direct outcome on the quality of life and the quality of life of perhaps your children and your grandchildren.
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  I mean, let's get serious, okay? So
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  it's real important, and it's not the freedom thing is it encompasses
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  all this, you know, the political aspect, and now you can
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  get away from these onerous laws that are man made and attached to people of a certain status that guide and dictate
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  everything you do. Well, if you get over here and get this knowledge and get yourself re empowered and take some personal steps in the right direction, you don't have to deal with that anymore.
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  Unknown: Indeed.
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  Unknown: That would be a very pleasant situation to be in, I assure you. Okay. If you don't believe me, if you don't believe me, you just drop by any library,
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  and I don't care even if it's an elementary school library.
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  I'm pretty sure they got them in there.
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  They've loaded the code of federal regulations
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  in every damn library in the country, okay? And you go in there and you go look at that stack of books over probably now two shelves
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  of whatever library you're looking at, and you can look at that and say,
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  With the exception of two sections
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  in Title 26,
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  not one bit of that crap applies to me.
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  With the exception of two
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  statutes
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  in title 26,
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  eight seventy one b and eight seventy seven b, not one word of that whole conglomeration of googledy gook
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  applies to you.
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  Now, how's that, Chris? How's that for one fatal swoop?
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  Unknown: That's pretty simplified
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  Unknown: there if you can get it on. Okay. And I see our people in our community all these years struggling from these bottom up situations and very few of them ever seen any kind of a remedy that's good god correct,
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  much less just,
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  okay?
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  And it breaks my heart, man and that's why I struggle so hard to get this out and the thing is for people that have spent so much time reading all this stuff from all these people and learning all this law and this history they'd never been exposed to before and you come up and tell them that this is this simple and they absolutely don't believe you.
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  Well, the Nile is not just a river in Egypt. No, it's not. Okay. So, anyway, that's why we strive so hard to do what we do here. And I guess at the start of the show, if there's anybody that's new, and I know we're getting some new listeners out there and some people that just sit back and listen for a long time and probably never reached out to us. If you've got any questions or comments, you gotta remember this. I had a guy, remember Freedom
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  that called in the other day? Who? Well, Freedom and I have had some
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  exchanges on Emails and he had some questions
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  and he was going to ask him the other day, I think, when he called there on Friday at the end of the show, but we had to get to Stephanie because we always defer to the ladies first here,
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  and
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  we get so few of them, you know, Chris, when one comes along, we like to defer to em real early so they don't get aggravated and hang up, okay? But. Yeah. He was. He he was going, well, I need to ask you some questions about my situation. This is my situation
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  and I said, well, you know, what I try and do here, and I know people are concerned and scared and all that stuff. I understand the intimidation factor. These guys have done a great job at it. But
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  when somebody
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  has that question and they want to deal with it on the side,
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  then there may be five, ten other people, 20 or
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  more out there that have the very same question, and because it didn't get exposed here, it was done on the side, they don't have the answer.
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  So, as we used to say in teaching, the only dumb question is the one that isn't asked.
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  Unknown: Indeed.
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  Unknown: Okay, because then it deprives everybody and I want to give an open hand to anybody if you're sitting out there in that position and you got a question on this to help buttress your
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  empowerment.
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  Okay? It's not for me. I've been empowered for a lot of years now, and I know this stuff pretty well, and I feel real good about it. I'm not scared of one damn man on the face of this earth. Okay? Not one. You know, Roger,
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  Unknown: I was going to say it's very
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  intriguing
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  to watch the interplay
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  between the different groups who think they have the answers, the other groups, I will say.
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  The Antoine Rights Group is, starting
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  to nibble around the periphery of the salient and important material issues.
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  I even saw teamlaw.com.org.
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  Team who? Still act
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  team law. That was Eric Madsen's group out of Colorado. I think his son is carrying a
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  water bucket for Eric himself these days, but they still have a pretty good sight. But, you know, they all have
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  a lot of accurate information, but they have little elements that complicate it and maybe not totally accurate that
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  kinda detracts from their efforts and
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  their authenticity
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  and accuracy. And here, we try to search for the truth and let the truth lead to where it may. And if you find it,
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  it's irrefutable. It stands on its own and it's unrebuttable,
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  Unknown: and that's their words, not our words. Chris, you know, it's like the old story.
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  I know everybody in the audience has heard this
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  of the two bulls,
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  you know, the old bull and the young bull and they're out there grazing
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  in the pasture and they come over a hill and there's a just a whole big herd of heifers down there and the young bull says, let's go down and make love to one of em and the old bull says, let's walk down and make love to all of them.
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  Okay? Yeah. And so what you learn as you get a little bit older is if you reserve that stuff and try and maximize your efforts, I mean, look at our enemy. Okay, they're pretty successful. I don't believe there's anybody listening to these words that wouldn't agree with me. Our enemy is real successful at prosecuting their agenda.
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  Unknown: Would you agree with that? Satan is a master of his craft. Absolutely. Well,
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  Unknown: when they do things, they always accomplish multiple objectives. They never do things that just accomplishes
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  one vector. They always have three or four, five, six, seven different areas that benefit off every action they do. They're smart. They maximize everything
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  they do, and we need to be just as smart, and we need to do the same damn thing, okay? And part of being able to do that is not running around like a dog chasing its tail out there looking for answers that and looking at words and all this says this over here. Well, hold it. It's been amended. It says that over here and going through all that that I've seen our whole community do for thirty years. You go back and what's the first, okay? Now, if you got, you got a group of people like we're talking about a minute ago that are affected by these regulations,
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  right?
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  With the exception of two two stated sections of the code, all the rest of those 50 titles are all made for residents.
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  Unknown: Okay. You can even look to the immigration
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  form, DSM-eleven,
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  Unknown: and the warning block is either A or B. That's You can do all that stuff, but you got this group of people that's affected by all that gobbledygook,
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  right? And you got this group of people over here that's in affected by it and only just barely touched on the edge by these two sections. Now, my question to you is, what's so damn hard to understand about that?
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  There's a section here. There's
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  a section here that's affected and statedly so and there's a section over here that if you understand what they're saying aren't affected and statedly so. Now, my question to you is which one of those two groups would you like to be in? A, and what's so damned hard to understand about it, B?
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  Unknown: I want to be disaffected,
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  not not affected.
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  Unknown: So, I I mean, you know, when you boil this down to its yeah, they've doctored it up with a bunch of complexity.
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  Layers and layers and layers and obfuscations and unbelievable
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  ways as we untangle it and understand it, okay?
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  But still. Analysis to parallels. That's right. Analysis
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  paralysis,
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  exactly what it's called. Well, you simplify things and come back and you understand that the whole guiding
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  the whole guiding
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  parameters,
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  the
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  law law of the
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  law law
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  don't have to have any law
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  or any other knowledge or anything else to understand what I'm going to tell you, Chris. If I tell you that you're a slave, that's tyranny.
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  Yes. Wait, is there anybody
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  that can disagree and argue that statement? If somebody tells you what you are, that's tyranny.
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  Unknown: Yeah.
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  Unknown: Okay. Well, Vatel says everything's gotta be voluntary.
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  That's you see so it's either tyranny or it's liberty.
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  But if they take that liberty and they turn and twist all this stuff and they pull the deed,
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  They pull the deed on 03/09/1933,
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  and from then generationally everybody's born into this, and then they go in and twist these words and they get your confirmation.
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  So they say all along your lifetime, Chris, are you a citizen of The United States? Chris, are you a resident? Where do you sign? Yep. Where do I put my ex?
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  Right there. Okay. Well, boom. All you've done is give em confirmation.
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  From the point of birth, everything they do subsequently
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  is coming back and asking you, hey, Chris, are you in still in a condition of voluntary servitude under the scope and purview of the fourteenth amendment?
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  Yeah, buddy. That's me. Where do I put that X?
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  That's all confirmation
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  and you see, that's what Samuel's question was about. He told me a little bit of his background. He's had some ups and downs in life like most of us have but he had filed some stuff ten years ago. He said, do I need to go back and undo any of that? Listen, man and I had that other question the other day. So, man, I think it was your people, Chris, that you were talking about and the guy goes, well, you gotta go in and sever all these contracts.
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  Why?
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  All those contracts were nothing but you
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  biting on the fraud that yeah, I'm involuntary servitude. So, from the fact that fraud is ab initio no
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  longer because it's exposed, no contract from the beginning that uses fraud stands. Well, all the other subsequent contracts are all based on that too, aren't they?
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  The fraud never stops. So, yep. No. It no. Let me tell you when it stops. It stops when you go back and correct it from the start. If you try and correct every contract that you've ever signed thinking that that's the nexus that's got you into this jurisdictional
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  trap, then, you're kind of, this is what Glenn said about it. You you mentioned it earlier, Chris.
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  Everybody 's got a piece of the puzzle to some extent.
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  Some people have more pieces than others.
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  Okay?
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  But
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  if you don't know what we cover here, the fact that the whole basis of the system is a feudal system, if you don't know some of these very detailed things which are so damned important,
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  then you're doing nothing but shadow boxing.
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  You see any of our patriot groups out there shadow boxing there, Chris?
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  Unknown: Yes. They're like Pancho Ponza. They're fighting metaphorical
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  Unknown: windmills in the sun. So, that's why this is so important and I mean, look, I'll be the first to admit. I'm a one trick pony.
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  I get on. The reason I'm here every day is to talk about this stuff right here. We bring you can't talk about it exclusively all the time. You can't go back and go over the basics of law every day. So you gotta bring in other things. They're relevant. They're important. They have a bearing on what we discuss.
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  But I'm a one trick pony, and my trick is freedom and
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  I learned it pretty damn well.
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  Unknown: You're here.
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  Unknown: Okay.
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  So,
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  that's what we do here. If you want to join us, if you got one of those latent questions,
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  it's been sitting back there, you're scared to death and shivering to call in and ask, get over it.
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  Get over it, okay? That ain't, listen, if you're wanting to be free, those aren't the actions of somebody that wants to be free. Those are the actions sitting back cowering in the corner, being scared of the intimidation they've heaped on you that are exactly the first ingredients of powerlessness.
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  How bad do you want it? Okay. Does the heart, does the fire of freedom, is it somehow been reignited in your heart and to the fact where it starts to to generate a flame and takes over your whole being?
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  Do you want to do you want to get up in the middle of the night and you got a sudden urge to go paint your face half blue?
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  So,
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  I guess just started off with that today. If anybody wants to call in, they're certainly welcome to. You can also do it via Skype
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  and just put in the search bar, PPN space hotline.
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  Will pop up. You can directly connect to us that way too. I'll merge you in seamlessly
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  with Chris and I
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  thanks to the to the
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  somewhat negligent engineers at Microsoft in charge of Skype.
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  What else is going on we need to talk about beside that?
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  Unknown: Well, I would point out that those aren't my groups, although I do watch a multitude of groups. There's only one group, and that's the creator's group I try to serve and do
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  so with diligence
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  and fervor.
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  Being in Ezekiel thirty three six, watcher on the wall, blowing that shofar as long as I can, but there are a lot of things going on in the world,
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  More
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  rattlings of sabers and
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  pounding of hammers for
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  prosecuting the criminals and more war war as an item that seems to be the
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  order of the day, and they're gonna hold them accountable.
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  Jail for Hillary, jail for
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  chef or shifty or whatever his name is.
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  These people are a bunch of
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  this is an interesting perspective,
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  Roger.
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  Perhaps they keep talking about a coup d'etat.
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  I think more actually a mutiny
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  could be or a tiny move could be a
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  descriptor used, and that's a particular title 18 code, a piracy on the sea and mutiny thereof,
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  whether it's a seditious conspiracy to undermine the republic and to deelect
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  or to take out the president by any schemes they concoct,
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  whether it be by incompetency
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  allegations without any substantiation
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  or perhaps even murdering him. And I hear they've done at least four times tried to kill him. He's got me beat by two. They've only tried to get murder me twice.
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  And so far, they've been unsuccessful.
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  Thank goodness to help from above. So,
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  that's all I can tell you.
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  Unknown: Well, Chris, I think you got somebody looking over you.
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  Unknown: Oh. That's my estimation.
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  Unknown: I believe and me too And I believe that it's more than four that they've attempted on this. This is pretty interesting. I picked up looking at an article the other night though
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  on us
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  perhaps prejudging
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  Mr. Trump and some of his actions.
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  You know, I I we don't have you and I don't have any. I think I sent you this by Email. It was so cute and and I sent it out to some of the folks that we got instant communication with but there's little about a week ago, I got a little one of these JPEG things,
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  and it showed
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  it had two sides, and one of them, it said, this is what I ordered, and it had a MAGA hat, you know? And the other one says, this is what I got, and it had a little red Yamaka
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  with a star of David on it and a picture of Trump. Okay?
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  Unknown: Mhmm. And I thought it was I think that had to
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  Unknown: Go ahead. It's right on point as a matter of fact. It was, and that's, what made it so funny.
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  But I was looking at an article the other night on this changing the embassy
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  from
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  Tel Aviv to Jerusalem,
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  which caused a big stir a while back, you remember.
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  In setting up that agency,
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  Trump personally supervised
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  the the companies that were going to work on it and do the installation.
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  The article said so we could make damn sure the damn thing wasn't bugged because they the old little bug from here to to Sunday.
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  And I went,
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  well, okay.
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  Unknown: Uh-uh. There's a better curious
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  fellow that was really some interesting discussion last night
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  on the other channel that I participate on pretty frequently, and that's Rio Harvey again. And it's,
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  targeted at Michigan
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  Fred, targeted in Michigan, I think it is.
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  And, he's a targeted individual. He's got some
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  psycho
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  psychiatric people who also were quite aware of his targeting by multiple
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  different forms.
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  And they were talking about the interstitial floors and having constructed some pretty big buildings around here in Las Vegas and some secured locations and some really high-tech stuff, I have become aware and worked on some of those facilities and done the piping of the rooms and stuff. And these are mystery floors
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  that don't appear on the buttons on the elevator, but you've gotta have a special key for select group that are qualified,
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  cleared, and authorized
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  to work there. And that's where they do all the global
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  tracking of all communications,
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  every keystroke,
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  and and perhaps every word spoken whether it be by telephone,
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  computer, or two cans and a string. I thought that would have been up in Utah where the facility is, but they've got something funky Well, actually, depository, an aggregating facility with a centralized collection and disseminate it to a few other places around the world, I think, and save it.
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  Unknown: Well, they're such nice, benevolent
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  dictators.
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  Joe, our buddy I've been there, matter of fact, Roger. Oh, you've been in those floors, Chris?
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  Unknown: No. Well, not at Bluffdale. I've been nearby Bluffdale,
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  and I was parked on the side of the road taking some pictures and was invited to disperse.
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  Apparently, I don't wanted any photographs taken to that secret
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  place. Although all you can see on top of ground, there's a small amount of it, and there who knows how many different levels they have below it and probably tied to the dump, the deep underground military bases. Like the Denver Airport.
• 27:47
  Unknown: Don't know that we'll ever know everything
• 27:49
  these bastards have done. Joe,
• 27:52
  our good listener up in Ohio has joined us though. So he obviously has got something on his mind. Joe would drug you out from under the hood a car in the garage to call in and say hello. Now, I know it must be something of substance.
• 28:06
  Unknown: No doubt.
• 28:08
  Unknown: Joe.
• 28:10
  Unknown: Okay. He's just listening
• 28:12
  Unknown: Oh, he's searching for his mute button, I think. Yes.
• 28:17
  Can you hear me now? Yeah. See, there he was searching for. I knew what he was doing. Hey, Joe.
• 28:23
  Unknown: Okay.
• 28:24
  I I have this statement here, and I wanna see if this would be correct about the being under the purview of the fourteenth amendment.
• 28:32
  Yes, sir. So if I were to if I were to state this,
• 28:36
  I am not a citizen of The US under the purview of the fourteenth amendment of the constitution.
• 28:43
  Is that close?
• 28:45
  Unknown: Yeah. I'd put, you know, that that little phrase scope and purview
• 28:49
  is something I picked out out of reading reading a legal case.
• 28:53
  I I don't remember which one it was, but I always thought it had had a nice ring to it because it is the whole scope
• 29:00
  and the purview of that amendment.
• 29:02
  And yes, you'd be correct, and they'd have to recognize that. You could dress that up a little bit and say, I'm not related to
• 29:11
  black slaves who were given civil rights with
• 29:15
  the secession of the Civil War. However, you wanted to phrase it. I think just that one statement
• 29:21
  would get you out of this shooting match and all of our guys want to, you know, hell, I've been this legal stuff for ten years, man. I want to use some of it and they want to put it all in there and dress up their affidavit
• 29:33
  and make it all fancy,
• 29:35
  okay?
• 29:36
  And the the the best thing to do in all honesty,
• 29:40
  you can make statements from now till the cows come home and every positive statement you make,
• 29:47
  somebody, you're giving somebody a shot to challenge you but
• 29:51
  if you go in there and put it in a negative form, it's virtually impossible
• 29:56
  to disprove a negative. So
• 30:01
  instead of and this is our big our now Chris, you've been around this patriot stuff for a lot of years. Aren't all of our people? I got rights.
• 30:10
  I got them constitutional
• 30:12
  rights.
• 30:14
  All these statements they make, right?
• 30:17
  Everyone of them. Heard that. Everyone of them are challengeable.
• 30:20
  You go in there and say, hey, I'm sorry.
• 30:23
  I'm not related to black slaves who were given civil rights after the Civil War under the fourteenth amendment. See you. Challenge that, boys. Challenge
• 30:33
  it. Go ahead.
• 30:37
  Well, that's where the buck stops then. Yes, sir. Right there and and so that's the, you know, the little insights that I've gotten over all these years
• 30:47
  and a lot of em, Chris, were from listening to other people, you know, and going to seminars all over the damn country back when I couldn't afford it.
• 30:57
  To go. And there there? Listen to all these gurus
• 31:00
  so I could do what my friend Ron Brown said we were all doing was guru hopping.
• 31:06
  We're just guru hopping. Man, one guru come through. We do all his stuff. Couple months later, another guru come through. We'd hop over to him, do all his stuff. We were covering all the bases because we didn't know.
• 31:17
  Okay? Now times have changed. We know now. We know what the system is. We know how they've implemented it. We know what it does, the effects upon us, and we know how to get our asses out of it.
• 31:31
  Unknown: So where do I go to file that affidavit?
• 31:34
  Unknown: Well, you go, first of all, after you've got that written down,
• 31:37
  and there's a lot of little
• 31:39
  little dressings you could take. You could form it in the affidavit in The United States code that's meant for without,
• 31:47
  okay?
• 31:48
  There's two, there's two Jurats,
• 31:51
  Joe, and I think, Chris, what is it? Title,
• 31:54
  title 17?
• 31:55
  I never can't remember all that stuff.
• 31:57
  Unknown: I think it's eighteen seventeen forty six. Okay. Yeah. Title 18. Title
• 32:03
  Unknown: 18, section seventeen forty six according to Chris. Now what that is, Joe,
• 32:08
  is right there in The United States code, it tells you there's two Juratz.
• 32:13
  A jurat is a penalty of perjury. It's an oath. Okay?
• 32:19
  Uh-huh. And it's what you want to set up your affidavit with because one of them is for the federal people and the other one's for the national people. And the national one clearly states,
• 32:30
  I declare under penalties of perjury in The United States Of America,
• 32:35
  and the other one just says, I declare under penalty of The United States. There's your federal, there's your national,
• 32:40
  and form it with that. You could just put that one sentence in there, Joe, and
• 32:46
  go get it notarized.
• 32:48
  And if you don't want to apply for a passport with it,
• 32:52
  which you don't have to do, but it's a good idea if you can afford it, just go ahead and go to the post office
• 32:58
  and go through the little routine with the clerk and he's going to ask you for all that stuff, driver's license should.
• 33:04
  Thomas didn't get asked for that. I think that's part of the problem he's going through out there but you go through that and they send it off to state.
• 33:12
  If you don't want to apply for a passport,
• 33:15
  I'd suggest you put it in an envelope and get return receipt requested.
• 33:20
  You could do a notarial confirmation
• 33:24
  there at the start if you want. Now somebody told me something very interesting the other day though and I didn't know this
• 33:31
  and they said, well, I don't do that.
• 33:33
  He said, what I prefer to do is to go to the post office and you go to the postmaster
• 33:39
  before you put it in the envelope,
• 33:42
  and the postmaster's
• 33:43
  got a stamp that they can put on it that shows that they were right there and witnessed it going into the envelope. I'd never heard that before. It's quite interesting, so somebody might want to explore it. It's another option on this notorial
• 33:58
  on confirmation that it got put into the envelope and mailed. Then you get your return receipt back, and I would put a little nice cover letter on there.
• 34:06
  Doesn't have to be long,
• 34:08
  doesn't have to be too flowery, but you know, Joe,
• 34:12
  honey does draw more flies than vinegar.
• 34:15
  Okay? So you put on there real nice. Please
• 34:18
  place this.
• 34:20
  Please place my
• 34:23
  citizenship
• 34:24
  evidence
• 34:25
  and use their term.
• 34:28
  Please place
• 34:30
  my included
• 34:31
  citizenship
• 34:32
  evidence
• 34:34
  firmly
• 34:35
  and
• 34:36
  permanently
• 34:38
  in my administrative
• 34:40
  file.
• 34:40
  Thank you very much.
• 34:43
  Unknown: Okay, please place my
• 34:46
  Unknown: Please
• 34:47
  place
• 34:49
  the I'd say please place the included
• 34:53
  citizenship
• 34:54
  evidence, and you could even put that in quotes,
• 34:59
  affidavit,
• 35:03
  firmly
• 35:05
  and
• 35:05
  permanently
• 35:08
  in my administrative
• 35:09
  file.
• 35:15
  Now that's pretty nice, that's a pretty nice way of dealing with them, isn't it?
• 35:19
  Bunch of damn communist Edomite bastards,
• 35:25
  slavers, they're history slavers,
• 35:27
  that's all they are, they've been doing it since the dawn of time, they've been doing it since Babylon,
• 35:33
  and they're still doing it today.
• 35:42
  Did you get that, Joe? You need me to go over it again, buddy?
• 35:48
  Unknown: Joe must be writing. Ask if you don't live. He must be writing.
• 35:52
  Unknown: He's writing. I think he's writing feverishly,
• 35:55
  Chris.
• 35:56
  Unknown: No doubt.
• 35:58
  Unknown: But. I love to. You know, it doesn't have to be com. It's not complex.
• 36:03
  There used to be one
• 36:05
  then they formed another one that was secondary and subservient,
• 36:09
  and a ways down the line they switched us all to the bottom one. What in the hell is so complicated
• 36:16
  about that?
• 36:23
  I'm waiting. I hear crickets.
• 36:27
  Hell, just wait a minute. We'll hear some dogs barking, no doubt.
• 36:34
  So, this is and
• 36:37
  and the mandate is to get this to a point where you've got control of it and it's simple in your mind.
• 36:44
  That's where the empowerment starts.
• 36:47
  When you can simplify it in your mind and get the complexity and get the intimidation and get the fear off of your fanny, that's where the power is.
• 37:00
  And they've done a hell of a job of stealing it from us.
• 37:05
  One hell of a job
• 37:10
  Joe, did you get all that down, buddy? Or you didn't
• 37:15
  fall over or something up there, did you?
• 37:18
  Unknown: I got it. Okay, good.
• 37:22
  Unknown: Well, that's about, honestly,
• 37:24
  that's
• 37:25
  about as much as you need to do to get free. Now, as I've said so many times, that's your diploma.
• 37:31
  You know, you went through a whole bunch of years of high school or a whole bunch of years of college and that's that's where the learning took place. That it's when you got finished with that that you got your diploma and this thing you're gonna send to the Secretary of State, your diploma.
• 37:49
  Unknown: Right. Oh, sure.
• 37:50
  It's amazing how long it it has taken me to filter it down to the kit. Keep it simple. Keep it simple
• 37:58
  short or something.
• 38:00
  Yeah.
• 38:02
  Unknown: It takes speak right into the phone, Joe. You sound like you got your mouth away from the phone a little bit and I want everybody to hear what you gotta say. Does take Okay.
• 38:11
  And and I understand that
• 38:14
  they
• 38:15
  Unknown: have made Because I always had this concept. It was it was this big, long, drawn out thing, but it really isn't. And I just had I've been concentrating
• 38:23
  it down, down, down over, you know, what's been a year and a half or so now since I've been listening.
• 38:31
  Unknown: Well, like old freedom, you know, that called in the other day that we've got this little bit of a relationship. We'll probably hear from him at some point in coming days.
• 38:40
  And it's like he said, he said, hell, Roger. I heard you seven years ago and I said, well, I'm just gonna sit back and see how Roger does.
• 38:48
  So, well, here I am seven years later.
• 38:54
  Unknown: I'm right behind you, Roger. I
• 38:59
  Unknown: remember one day I was listening to Spinola,
• 39:03
  who I I really like, Deanna.
• 39:05
  And
• 39:05
  and Deanna was on her show there, and it was years ago, and it was right after we'd gotten out there with our info,
• 39:12
  and John Kacera was a big advocate of this stuff from early on, and it
• 39:18
  just helped me immensely in the early days of this project.
• 39:22
  And Deanna had some Hollywood guy on, and I just don't remember who it was.
• 39:28
  But
• 39:29
  he was on there talking to her about something, and John called in to the show, and he starts
• 39:34
  explaining my stuff to the guy.
• 39:37
  And whoever the guy was, I remember the comment he made. He said, and I've heard it too but subsequently
• 39:43
  is he said, it can't be that simple.
• 39:49
  It can't be that simple but yes, it is that simple. Now, getting to that point where you got the guts to do it and the understanding and you become partially empowered
• 40:00
  is not simple and I'll certainly agree with everybody because we've all been down the path to get to this point of understanding.
• 40:06
  Whatever your point of understanding is,
• 40:09
  you've gone through a little bit of knot untying to get to that point.
• 40:13
  But that's the empowerment
• 40:15
  process, Joe. Obviously, you've been going through it for a year and a half, going and untying all those double minded knots
• 40:23
  they've tied in your mind with these opposite definitions of words and understanding that they've got the system set up where the deal is done when you take your first breath.
• 40:34
  When you take your first breath,
• 40:37
  you're already in voluntary servitude,
• 40:39
  and then on, everything confirms it.
• 40:44
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 40:46
  Unknown: Yep.
• 40:46
  And see They had me go to Vietnam for them, Yep. And and and that's why they're constantly asking you, and they've got it structured this way because that allows them,
• 40:57
  at least on the surface,
• 40:59
  to adhere it to constitutional
• 41:01
  principles
• 41:02
  because it's still voluntary.
• 41:07
  Why they have to recognize that affidavit,
• 41:10
  because our people do not realize they think they're totally 100%
• 41:14
  lawless,
• 41:15
  and for the most part they're not.
• 41:18
  Yes, they get out of line, but to
• 41:21
  a large extent they have a legal peg that they're hanging their hat
• 41:28
  evidence is that they recognize that affidavit
• 41:31
  and they had to put that verbiage no matter how twisted,
• 41:35
  they had to put that verbiage in the passport application.
• 41:41
  Unknown: Okay.
• 41:43
  Yep.
• 41:44
  Unknown: Now were it not for that, were it not for the fact that I was told to leave the country ten and a half years ago, all those things I may still have never looked at a passport application
• 41:56
  and seen the answer I looked for for fifteen years to that point when I saw it that day.
• 42:11
  Unknown: You know, Roger, I think the listeners might like to know who told
• 42:15
  you to leave the country.
• 42:19
  Unknown: Well, I don't know who told me. Whoever speaks to you in an inaudible
• 42:23
  voice that you hear inside your head.
• 42:27
  Unknown: Extra
• 42:28
  terrestrial
• 42:29
  Unknown: force? I have no idea. It may have been them beaming. Beaming. They can do that stuff too evidently, right, Chris? It may have been them beaming in there but
• 42:38
  what what happened was I was sitting there in Florida. Beamed. You know, left Atlanta. I was help living with my mom there in the big family house. She lives by herself
• 42:47
  and I was sitting there in the office one day and
• 42:50
  the voice came and it said, you need to get out.
• 42:53
  That's all it said. You need to get out. And
• 42:57
  it's the second time it had come to me. It happened once, years earlier,
• 43:02
  and you kind of shake your head. First of all, you say, Where the hell did that come from?
• 43:07
  Okay?
• 43:09
  And secondly,
• 43:10
  you start shaking your head, and you go in and then you go through the denial stage,
• 43:15
  and and I didn't do anything about them. Well, where would I go? I've never traveled anywhere.
• 43:20
  I don't speak another language.
• 43:22
  I've always wanted to do some of those things but I never had and so where do I go? That's first thing everybody asks if that idea even crosses your path. Well, where the hell would I go?
• 43:35
  Okay? And I went through that process and I just put it on the back burner
• 43:40
  and a a while later, a few days later,
• 43:43
  it came again and said the same thing, you need to get out.
• 43:47
  Well, the second time, I've learned at this point, if it comes twice, you better take heed and
• 43:54
  it was shortly
• 43:56
  after that, I was watching a program on public broadcasting
• 44:00
  that probably still airs
• 44:02
  called Globe Trekkers. Have you all ever seen that?
• 44:07
  Unknown: Well,
• 44:09
  Unknown: it's a couple of young Brit. Sounds like a precursor to Anthony Bourdain. Well, it's a cool program. It's a couple of young Brit kids, you know, millennials back in that day. This is ten, fifteen years ago now. Sure, they're a bit older and longer of tooth now,
• 44:22
  but they go to different countries around the world. And what they do is show a a map of the country at the start of the hour long episode, episode, whatever country it was, and they'd tell you where they were going and show you their route on that map, and then they'd go that route,
• 44:38
  and they'd eat all the local food and talk to people and tell you about it. Well, that Saturday night, after the second time,
• 44:46
  I was looking at Globe Trekkers because I like that program,
• 44:50
  and it was on Argentina.
• 44:52
  And I had a dear friend who had owned property down there for a few years and kept
• 44:59
  bugging me to go down there with him, and I never had had a passport up to that point.
• 45:04
  And so then that show on
• 45:08
  globe trekkers that night of Argentina,
• 45:10
  and I remember,
• 45:11
  because when my friend was telling me about it all all those years and I asked the same question that people ask me when I got down there which is, well, is it close to Buenos Aires?
• 45:26
  The, I mean, and you know, Argentina is pretty big country, okay? And I remember him telling me, he said, No, no, no, it's on the opposite side of the country.
• 45:35
  And that night on that program, they started up in Northern Argentina in Salta,
• 45:40
  which was where the country was founded, by the way, not on the coast, up at Salta,
• 45:45
  and by Jesuits that had been exploring the Amazon, and they came out of the Amazon, boom, founded Salta.
• 45:52
  And so Salta,
• 45:53
  then they went down this very famous
• 45:55
  it's famous worldwide,
• 45:57
  and it's the road I had my accident on, and that's one of the reasons it's famous, is accidents like the one I had,
• 46:05
  is a road called Ruta
• 46:07
  40,
• 46:08
  and Ruta 40
• 46:10
  starts up in Salta
• 46:11
  and goes all the way down to
• 46:14
  Uvara at the South,
• 46:16
  all along the Andes, either in or beside the Andes for the whole way, and that's a big chunk of South America.
• 46:23
  And so they came down Ruta 40 to Mendoza,
• 46:26
  where I lived,
• 46:27
  and he had told me it was, and so I saw a little bit of Mendoza on that program, and then they went down to Bariloche in the South, the Switzerland of South America,
• 46:37
  and they ended up in Buenos Aires. And so the next morning I had him on the telephone saying, Tell me about Argentina,
• 46:43
  because I'd
• 46:44
  heard the message twice and I saw some place where I knew somebody, had property, and had connections,
• 46:50
  and had told me it was a nice place. And that's where the whole thing started, Joe. And so
• 46:56
  decision,
• 46:57
  and then after I made the decision,
• 47:00
  I knew I had to get a passport.
• 47:03
  And at that reluctant
• 47:04
  stage of the process,
• 47:06
  I went to our little post office. I didn't even look online.
• 47:09
  I went to our little post office because I knew they had copies and I picked up the first time just the initial.
• 47:17
  It was orange
• 47:18
  color scheme application
• 47:20
  and I took it home. I didn't look at it. I took it home and I sat back and I said, well, I guess I gotta read this thing and I sat
• 47:29
  there and looked at the first page and I'm not kidding you and I'm not kidding you one bit. The answer I'd look for for fifteen years was at the top of the page.
• 47:43
  Unknown: I think someone, I think some, I think a certain spirit is leading you, my brother.
• 47:49
  Unknown: I think so. Well, I've, you know, it's funny
• 47:53
  that you should say that because
• 47:56
  being a man of some humility,
• 47:58
  which I try to be,
• 48:01
  you when you start getting that kind of indication,
• 48:05
  you don't want to think it's true.
• 48:09
  Unknown: Can you? Understood. Okay?
• 48:11
  Unknown: But after a number of years of over and over and over and over of these things happening just like I just described to you,
• 48:20
  you get to a point where you you can't.
• 48:22
  You get to a point where you don't question it anymore.
• 48:27
  Unknown: Uh-huh. That's right.
• 48:29
  Unknown: You know, and I I've talked about it on the program before the spiritual path of this whole project
• 48:36
  from the days back when John Benson was 15 years old.
• 48:41
  Have you ever heard me tell that story?
• 48:45
  Unknown: No.
• 48:47
  Unknown: Benson? John Benson. Maybe not. John Benson. There's a lot of stories, you know. John Benson was a devout Mormon, okay?
• 48:55
  And one of the biggest
• 48:57
  pains to him, I'm sure his entire life, was he got excommunicated
• 49:01
  from the church because of these felony convictions, which were bogus, alright?
• 49:06
  And
• 49:07
  when he was a young man in the Mormon religion,
• 49:10
  they call, they have this thing that's called, let me see if I can, a patriarchal
• 49:15
  blessing.
• 49:17
  Yep. And it must be like a bar mitzvah
• 49:21
  or down here in the
• 49:24
  Southern Hemisphere,
• 49:25
  they don't do it with boys, they do it with girls,
• 49:29
  and with girls,
• 49:30
  the fifteenth birthday is this really big milestone,
• 49:34
  like a bar mitzvah for a boy that's Jewish,
• 49:37
  and they have big parties and all this stuff when girls have their kinsay kumpliano's
• 49:42
  is what they call it. Kinsay is 15 and kumpliano is his birthday,
• 49:47
  and so when they have that same type of a ritual in the Mormon church except it deals with the males,
• 49:54
  and when the male
• 49:56
  comes of age,
• 49:58
  quote unquote,
• 49:59
  they have this patriarchal
• 50:01
  blessing ceremony
• 50:03
  and what they do is put the young man in a room and an elder of the church comes in and lays hands on him and foretells his future.
• 50:13
  K? You familiar with that, Chris, the patriarchal blessing? You got a lot of Mormons out there. Yeah.
• 50:19
  Unknown: Usually,
• 50:19
  several elders
• 50:21
  lay their hands on you and anoint your head with olive oil, which has supposedly been consecrated,
• 50:27
  set apart as it were,
• 50:29
  for healing and
• 50:31
  Unknown: other special purposes. Well, when John went through his patriarchal blessing, Joe, the the elder came in and he put hands on him and he said, people will come to you from north, east, west, and south to seek their freedom.
• 50:49
  Unknown: Wow.
• 50:52
  Unknown: That's true. Wow.
• 50:54
  Okay.
• 50:57
  Where You know,
• 50:59
  Unknown: this kind of emanates.
• 51:01
  Go ahead, Chris. From another concept that wherever two or more are gathered in his name,
• 51:06
  his spirit exists. And so there is some gravitas behind the concept
• 51:12
  and absent
• 51:14
  personal
• 51:14
  agendas or interdictions,
• 51:16
  interventions,
• 51:18
  there could be some efficacy to two or more
• 51:22
  assembling in the name and consecrating
• 51:24
  someone and examining
• 51:25
  them for their gifts and
• 51:28
  Unknown: past that they're supposed to walk on. Well and and so John, to continue the story a little bit, Joe,
• 51:35
  John was
• 51:36
  had always been interested in the law. The reason we know all this substantive stuff we know, like the legal
• 51:43
  concept of person and all that stuff is because he just loved the law
• 51:47
  and he went studying a bit of it in his earlier years
• 51:51
  as he got into married and had a family and he started working as a civil servant
• 51:56
  in the contracting division, I believe for the Air Force,
• 52:00
  and he was doing some civil service contract work and so he became particularly interested in contract law
• 52:08
  and then because of his own predilection,
• 52:11
  he became even more interested in tax
• 52:14
  law.
• 52:15
  So that's what started everything. Well, he got into it and started applying all this stuff, he was in the Denver area,
• 52:23
  and he was in that patriot group out there. You mentioned somebody there earlier from that group, Madsen.
• 52:29
  Unknown: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
• 52:32
  Unknown: And and and all those guys, Dean Stoner, I talked about a little bit yesterday who ran Global Science Fair
• 52:39
  and all that group of guys out there, I know for a fact that another one of them was John Nelson,
• 52:46
  and he and John Nelson used to do a lot of studying together in the early days. And
• 52:50
  so
• 52:51
  he got this basis
• 52:53
  and he was in the University of I guess they used to go to the University of Denver Law School,
• 52:59
  and he was in the law library there, Joe, at the University of Denver, and he was looking at something back in the old you know, in a law library, if you've never been in one, they've got all the contemporary stuff that you can lay your hands on and all The US stuff and and the Fed sup and all the US Supreme Court cases but back at the back of the library,
• 53:20
  they'll generally have some sort of a reference section on Old English stuff,
• 53:25
  and he was back in the Old English section of the law library at the University of Denver looking something up,
• 53:33
  and those aisles
• 53:34
  are a little bit narrower back there
• 53:37
  because there's not as many people use them, and as he turned around he knocked another book from the opposite shelf with his elbow and it fell on the floor open.
• 53:50
  Okay?
• 53:51
  Well, John, being a respecter of books and knowledge, reached down and grabbed the book that fell on the floor, and where it opened,
• 54:00
  it was a book, and that chapter was about the exchequer,
• 54:03
  which is the Treasury Treasury in England,
• 54:05
  and it was a list of things, Chris,
• 54:08
  that the exchequer
• 54:10
  could not seize
• 54:11
  when they did a writ of extent, which we know is a seizure.
• 54:16
  And John looked at that and he said, well, I'll be damned.
• 54:21
  That's the same thing they can't seize today.
• 54:27
  Unknown: What
• 54:28
  a coincidence or a revelation.
• 54:31
  Unknown: Okay. And so I've known of these little incidents over all these years before I even came on the scene.
• 54:38
  Okay?
• 54:39
  But I can look back over the last twenty eight, whatever it's been, years and see that
• 54:48
  my life seems to have been guided.
• 54:53
  I mean, as you look back, I don't mean just from the last twenty eight years, I mean from the earliest days when I was guided into being a smacky mouth radio disc jockey, when I was in my early 20s, so that fifty years down the line I'd have that experience and could get on here and do these shows.
• 55:15
  I can see where, after my record business years, that I was guided into the teaching profession for ten years so that I could polish my speaking skills and appreciate the love that I have for what I'm doing and helping other people in life through teaching.
• 55:31
  It's
• 55:31
  the most wonderful feedback,
• 55:34
  and
• 55:35
  I can tell you this:
• 55:36
  what it's done for me is it gives my life more purpose
• 55:41
  than it's ever had before,
• 55:47
  and that's a big deal.
• 55:52
  That's a big deal,
• 55:55
  and I could have never realized it if I wasn't in this position.
• 55:59
  And so I can look back, I could probably give you two or three more stories, Joe, but I promise you there's been a divine hand in this project since the time when John Benson was in his early years.
• 56:12
  Absolutely. And if it wouldn't have been for him, we wouldn't know
• 56:16
  hardly
• 56:17
  any of what we know today.
• 56:22
  Unknown: Yep. See that?
• 56:29
  Unknown: Wow. You've never heard me one time in the seven or eight years I've been on the radio get on here and take credit for this information.
• 56:37
  I always give the credit where it's due. Now, I will take credit for what I've added because I stood on their shoulders and I added a dimension that they didn't even dream about, okay? But I could never have done it had not John laid the groundwork.
• 56:53
  Unknown: Right.
• 56:55
  Yeah.
• 56:56
  In my own personal life, I really am surprised that I had
• 57:01
  learned what I had
• 57:03
  Five years ago, if I started to read a book,
• 57:06
  I was twenty minutes and that was it. Now,
• 57:09
  it's like the more I read, the more awake I become. And I wasn't a very good student in school. And as I look back, it's like you start adding things up. It's like I lived through this. I lived through that. This happened. That happened and you start to see
• 57:25
  something's happening here. I think I'm just waiting for my,
• 57:30
  what do you call it? A format or something. It's like I have all these things to say, but those are delicious.
• 57:35
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, I've been there. I've been there, buddy. Well, as I heard, I think it was a Mark Twain quote that I saw the other day said, don't let your school and interfere with your education, Joe.
• 57:50
  Exactly.
• 57:52
  Hello.
• 57:53
  Hello. Come on in there, 10 buddy, 104 good buddy.
• 57:58
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 58:01
  Unknown: Yeah. We'll we'll we'll revert back to CB talk since nobody wants to call in and give us any good questions, Joe. Yours is a good one though and
• 58:10
  this is what I know. When I talked about this the other day and why,
• 58:14
  I, my suspicion is that the
• 58:17
  Secretary of State up there has received way more than 100,000 of these things,
• 58:23
  okay?
• 58:24
  And I gotta know that every time that one of them shows up up there at Foggy Bottom,
• 58:30
  somebody on the 7th Floor sphincter
• 58:34
  muscle tightens.
• 58:37
  Unknown: You know, Roger, as the
• 58:39
  escalating violence
• 58:41
  picks up Hippo and the war drums beat louder,
• 58:46
  more people are going to be driven to the obvious that they must do something to upright this upside down ship
• 58:53
  and correct this demonic takeover of this government
• 58:57
  and replacing it with some other form of government
• 59:01
  because it's clear as the nose on your face that something is dramatically
• 59:06
  wrong.
• 59:07
  Unknown: Well, hey, Chris. How many times have you heard this? I'm just one person. What can I do?
• 59:12
  You ever heard that? Oh, yes.
• 59:14
  Unknown: Yes. Riding brush fires in the mind of men is nearly a small thing. Okay. Well, I'm only one guy. Look what the hell I've accomplished.
• 59:24
  Unknown: You got it. I gotta run-in and take care of some business. I'll be back. Okay, Joe.
• 59:28
  Unknown: You you know, that that that's it. You you're right. You can't do anything about them and the control they've got and the levers of power they control, okay? But you can do something about you.
• 59:42
  And you're the only thing you can affect change in.
• 59:47
  Unknown: One thing I think is my role is
• 59:50
  people watch me, I think, a little bit more than I think. I think they watch you me more than what they listen to what I say,
• 59:58
  Unknown: probably. Well, that's probably a lot of truth in that, Joe.
• 1:00:02
  People watch your actions and see, and and that's the power of what we're doing. Okay. Now, and I've talked about it before as I've come into these things that I understand,
• 1:00:13
  understand a little bit better. I'm gonna hit my cough button for a second here.
• 1:00:18
  Actions do speak louder than words as a matter of fact. That's right. And as I come in to understand these things, one of the things that I've come to understand a while back is the difference between I'm not is
• 1:00:30
  dark power, let's say dark power instead of black power. Dark power versus
• 1:00:35
  light power. Okay? Now, they switch that dialectic and say, Lucifer is the son of the light, okay? But that's not, that's dark power and if you'll notice with dark power,
• 1:00:47
  it cannot exercise itself
• 1:00:49
  unless it reaches out and touches you.
• 1:00:53
  Know, if the if Positive versus negative. Right. A versus B. Either the IRS gonna send you a letter or maybe a CID guy's gonna show up at your door or OSHA
• 1:01:03
  or it's like Stephanie. They have a meeting and dark power says, oh, we're gonna come on your land and and come sample your water there. You can't do a damn thing about it under the Clean Air Act, okay? So, dark power has to exercise itself in that manner but white power unless you use Jesus as an example. White power attracts and it's just exactly what you said, Joe. People watch you and it's what Chris said. Actions speak louder than words and they see
• 1:01:31
  that something has changed in Joe.
• 1:01:35
  Something has changed and they don't know what it is unless you've been talking to em but if they're just observing and you hadn't been talking to em, something happens. Joe walks with his shoulders a little bit more upright. He's he he's a little bit more confident.
• 1:01:49
  He all these other things that didn't used to be in Joe's regular routine.
• 1:01:53
  They see and they want what you've got
• 1:01:57
  and now, they become curious
• 1:01:59
  because white power attracts.
• 1:02:02
  People don't listen to this program and go read my book just because they don't have anything else to do.
• 1:02:08
  They know now that there's something of substance in there, and people like our friend Free Dumb that's been monitors for seven damn years knows darn well there's some power there.
• 1:02:21
  And then they want you become informed,
• 1:02:26
  Unknown: possessed with knowledge,
• 1:02:28
  you know the truth,
• 1:02:29
  and you walk different. You carry yourself in a different fashion. You have a different character,
• 1:02:35
  persona,
• 1:02:36
  an aura,
• 1:02:39
  carillon photography
• 1:02:40
  around yourself. You project positivity instead of negativity, and that is very observable in today's deviant and
• 1:02:48
  wrong minded negative
• 1:02:50
  Unknown: existence we possess ourselves in. And then, Joe, here's the next step.
• 1:02:55
  Joe must have left. I know he's still listening.
• 1:02:59
  The next step is you've got this
• 1:03:02
  incubency
• 1:03:03
  of knowledge and power,
• 1:03:05
  and you've done the things that you knew you had to do, and now you start to exercise it.
• 1:03:12
  And you go in and deal with one of these guys,
• 1:03:15
  and they start asking you the questions,
• 1:03:17
  and you go like and the perfect example was Darryl at the gun shop. He told us that story a few years ago. He'd bought gone in there and bought guns before,
• 1:03:26
  and he knew those good old boys. They're up there in Alabama at the gun store, and he goes in to buy a new one and the guy puts him through the background check and he says, well, what's your status? He says, well, I'm a US national and
• 1:03:39
  the guy looks at him and says, they won't sell it to you.
• 1:03:43
  And he goes, well, humor me.
• 1:03:46
  And so the guy gets the FBI check on the phone, he says,
• 1:03:50
  guy says he's a US national, and the guy on the other end says, wait a minute,
• 1:03:55
  yep, sell it to him.
• 1:03:58
  And at that moment,
• 1:04:00
  Darrell became more empowered.
• 1:04:04
  At that moment,
• 1:04:06
  whatever
• 1:04:07
  confidence he had to that point increased.
• 1:04:17
  You see how that happens? And then so now, he's got a little bit more confidence and he goes out and does something else and somebody says, well, are you a citizen of The United States? Nope. Are you a resident? Nope. Okay, boom and he steps out of there with whatever he wanted to get done done. He goes, hell, I'm even a little bit more empowered
• 1:04:36
  and it feeds on itself.
• 1:04:40
  They can't tell you no.
• 1:04:46
  It's not their option.
• 1:04:48
  They just know they're supposed to ask a question.
• 1:04:51
  They they got some kind of a a protocol you're going through and part of their part of it is to ask you those questions. They don't know and what my experience was so many years ago is they don't care.
• 1:05:06
  They just know you gotta give them an answer.
• 1:05:11
  I think some of them are starting to care, Roger. Well, that maybe, Chris. This was many years ago when I was up there doing all this stuff, you know? And I know times have changed and I know they're they're
• 1:05:22
  damn sure aware of what's going on. I guarantee you, they've gotten over a 100,000 and they may have gotten multiples of that up there.
• 1:05:31
  Very likely. They. I'm going to be offline for a few minutes. Okay. Okay. Well, I'll maybe somebody else wants to call and help me carry the water bucket here. They know
• 1:05:41
  darn well that we're wise to em. They know darn well. They've been caught with their feet, with their hands, and with their blood
• 1:05:50
  essence
• 1:05:51
  sucking proboscis
• 1:05:53
  in the damn cookie jar.
• 1:05:56
  They know it.
• 1:05:57
  The best they can do is just act like it ain't happening and totally ignore it,
• 1:06:02
  and you'll never get them to recognize it. They don't want to bring attention to this. Can you understand why?
• 1:06:14
  That just like when our our listener student,
• 1:06:17
  Matt, got that
• 1:06:20
  affidavit put into his divorce trial by the
• 1:06:24
  ex wife's
• 1:06:25
  attorney who thought this was all
• 1:06:28
  Sovereign citizen and they're the ones that got all, I guess they got my book mentioned in in their admission into evidence. My name was in there and a part of the background of it and part of that background was they submitted for their
• 1:06:44
  little deal,
• 1:06:45
  a copy of the affidavit that got put into evidence because it was them putting it in there. Nobody looked at it.
• 1:06:52
  And so he gets up there on the stand in court, and because it's now in evidence, he pulls out the deck, the affidavit, and starts reading it. And the judge says, don't read that document.
• 1:07:04
  Don't read that document.
• 1:07:08
  In open court.
• 1:07:13
  They don't want this information
• 1:07:15
  out there.
• 1:07:17
  That threatens the judge and everybody up the line all the way to their ultimate boss, the damn Secretary of State, I'm sorry to say, this absolute neocon goon,
• 1:07:28
  Mike Pompeo.
• 1:07:30
  God, if we had a sequence of goons in that office,
• 1:07:33
  Lurch, John Kerry,
• 1:07:35
  Hillary
• 1:07:36
  Clinton,
• 1:07:37
  Pompeo.
• 1:07:41
  You can sure as hell tell they control the State Department.
• 1:07:45
  Incestuous.
• 1:07:49
  All the power is up there at the 7th Floor,
• 1:07:53
  where all these
• 1:07:55
  pseudo
• 1:07:56
  Frankfurt School,
• 1:07:58
  PhD,
• 1:07:59
  Columbia University,
• 1:08:01
  Edomites,
• 1:08:02
  slave, and bastards
• 1:08:04
  have their offices.
• 1:08:07
  And don't you think for one minute that that's not exactly what they are,
• 1:08:13
  and exactly who they are.
• 1:08:15
  They're history's
• 1:08:17
  slavers.
• 1:08:18
  They think it's their right
• 1:08:21
  to enslave
• 1:08:23
  other people.
• 1:08:24
  That's the despicable
• 1:08:27
  human beings
• 1:08:28
  that we're unfortunately having to deal with.
• 1:08:33
  That's the despicable
• 1:08:35
  human beings, if they are,
• 1:08:37
  that unfortunately control this world.
• 1:08:43
  But you don't have to be affected by them unless you want to continue to be.
• 1:08:49
  Okay, Chris had to duck out, Joe had to duck out, nobody else has called in, let's see what the heck we got here.
• 1:08:56
  Let me check zero hedge and see if
• 1:09:01
  Yeah, there's a lot of stuff starting to break out of the Ukraine, and and I think it's
• 1:09:07
  very interesting that they don't want Russia
• 1:09:11
  in Venezuela, but they sure don't have any damn problem loading up Poland and the Ukraine and where the hell will stand and all these other places that they're getting missiles in
• 1:09:23
  and getting into NATO.
• 1:09:25
  No problem there, but don't you dare come down here under a treaty you've already signed and do anything with Venezuela.
• 1:09:34
  The hypocrisy of these people reeks
• 1:09:37
  from morning to night.
• 1:09:39
  Eric,
• 1:09:41
  Eric Hoglund,
• 1:09:43
  Eric Hoglund is gonna answer the call. He heard me floundering here, and he said, I'll throw an arm out to old Raj and give him a hand. Hey, Eric.
• 1:09:53
  Hey, Roger. How are doing today? Pretty good all in all. How about you, Eric? I was thinking about you the other day.
• 1:10:00
  Unknown: Yeah. I'm in the process of applying for Social Security. Okay. Good. Well, no problem with that. Catching the affidavit.
• 1:10:08
  Unknown: Yeah. And that's kind of exciting. It's a new status to do it with. Yes. And just make sure you get that affidavit in with your application. That's what I did down there in Argentina,
• 1:10:18
  but and I've never had a day well, now I'd I'd I'd take that back. I did have some problems
• 1:10:24
  with Social Security, but it wasn't anything like you'd you'd think, Eric. It was a horror story. Go ahead, Chris. You're back.
• 1:10:32
  Unknown: Yeah. I wanted to chime in on that on that specific question because he is in the area that he is with the Social Security.
• 1:10:38
  When you append
• 1:10:40
  for a launch that have data
• 1:10:43
  of record status, you'll be very pleased that you'll only lose a couple of dollars a month from your Social Security. Yeah. I think it's about 3
• 1:10:51
  or $4 as I recall, which is inconsequential,
• 1:10:55
  and it may have dramatic
• 1:10:57
  effect on the escalation of amounts you receive back Well from your socialist
• 1:11:02
  repayment.
• 1:11:03
  Unknown: You know, I've told this story, but my friends in Argentina
• 1:11:08
  just really dear,
• 1:11:10
  dear friends of mine that I met down there about my age,
• 1:11:13
  and Nick, the husband, was a taxi driver,
• 1:11:17
  and he's put two children through college, and one of them was
• 1:11:21
  valedictorian and
• 1:11:23
  just raised really
• 1:11:25
  nice children and a really nice man and his wife, okay. Well, they lived in The US for eleven years up in New Jersey. He was a machinist
• 1:11:35
  and they had their children up there, so their children
• 1:11:39
  were birthright citizens, but years ago they left and drove all the way back down to Bariloche,
• 1:11:46
  actually South of Bariloche,
• 1:11:48
  a little town called El Bolson.
• 1:11:50
  It's an interesting story all its own, but they drove all the way down there. Her brother was a Baptist preacher down there, and Chris, this was back, it must have been in
• 1:12:01
  in about the 80s, and they drove from New Jersey
• 1:12:05
  all the way South of Bariloche
• 1:12:07
  down the Pan Am Highway
• 1:12:09
  in a pickup truck with a 90 year old woman and their two children who was Argentinian and wanted to go back to Argentina to die, and they drove the whole Pan Am Highway in that configuration back then, which had to have been a real trip, okay?
• 1:12:26
  Regardless,
• 1:12:27
  because he was a green card holder up there in New Jersey,
• 1:12:32
  Nick paid into and qualified for Social Security,
• 1:12:36
  but they're not
• 1:12:37
  U. S, they're Argentinians, and they've been gone for a lot of years, twenty plus years,
• 1:12:42
  and so they had to go through the embassy in Buenos Aires. If you're in a foreign country, you're applying for one of the benefits, you've got to go through the embassy of that country.
• 1:12:52
  Boom.
• 1:12:53
  Period.
• 1:12:54
  And so, they had to go down there to the embassy. It's 600 miles each way, and go down there and talk to them and get this paperwork, and they were always demanding more paperwork and more documentation,
• 1:13:06
  and they had to come up with a stack of stuff, and I'm not kidding you, a stack either.
• 1:13:11
  And so at the end, when getting ready to go ahead and put em on what they've earned and paid into, the IRS writes em a letter and it says, because you're not a resident,
• 1:13:21
  we may take 25%
• 1:13:24
  and they did
• 1:13:25
  and they do to this day. So if you're getting out, and I can't imagine why the change would affect
• 1:13:33
  your amount. But if it does and it's that negligible,
• 1:13:36
  hell, it doesn't make any difference to me. I'm just proud to be getting it.
• 1:13:42
  There you go. Joe, have you ever heard me tell that story that Neil Borch used to tell
• 1:13:48
  about Social Security and you may not have? That's pretty interesting. Chris, I'll get to you in just a second. Just hold what you're gonna say. Borch used to tell this story because he, you know, Neil Borch is, first of all?
• 1:14:03
  Have you ever heard of him, Joe?
• 1:14:08
  I do. Okay, Joe's not honest. It's Eric. I'm sorry, Eric. Have you ever heard of the board, sir? Well,
• 1:14:14
  he's Oh, yeah. Definitely. Well, he's a he was big time in Atlanta for years. He's an attorney, and he used to be he was in in high school in Pensacola. His daddy was a military too, and he was a guy that the principal of the school said, I need somebody to do school announcements on the PA system. It's gonna be you.
• 1:14:32
  And so that's how he got his broadcast
• 1:14:35
  experience,
• 1:14:36
  was in high school for announcing over the PA system. So anyway, he went up, got his law degree, did lawyer, and got in to a little
• 1:14:45
  ring radio, WRNG,
• 1:14:47
  there in Atlanta, a little talk show host, had quite a local following.
• 1:14:51
  Well, when
• 1:14:53
  he went over to GST,
• 1:14:55
  which is the talk show station there in Atlanta, and he had a pretty large following there, and then he got courted by WSB,
• 1:15:03
  the Cox broadcasting outfit there, because they wanted to syndicate him.
• 1:15:08
  And when he left GST and moved over to WSB
• 1:15:12
  is when Sean Hannity came to town,
• 1:15:15
  okay?
• 1:15:16
  And so all that back to there, but Borch used to tell this great story, Eric,
• 1:15:22
  and he
• 1:15:24
  said when they passed the Social Security Act originally,
• 1:15:28
  there was a loophole in there where cities and municipalities,
• 1:15:32
  if they started a parallel system
• 1:15:35
  for their own employees internally, they could opt out of the Social Security system. They've closed that loophole since,
• 1:15:41
  but there was one town
• 1:15:44
  down there in Texas,
• 1:15:46
  somewhere close to Houston Beaumont down in that area,
• 1:15:49
  that were smart enough to opt out of the Social Security system when it was formed,
• 1:15:55
  and the people that are trash collectors and worked at the water department and all that stuff,
• 1:16:00
  in that little town, you know what they're retired? This was twenty fifteen or more years ago now. Okay? Back then, you know what they were getting for their Social Security?
• 1:16:12
  Oh, go ahead. Take a while to ask, yes.
• 1:16:18
  Unknown: How much they were getting? Yeah.
• 1:16:21
  Oh,
• 1:16:22
  $1,000
• 1:16:23
  Unknown: a month? About try $10,000
• 1:16:25
  a month.
• 1:16:27
  Unknown: Wow.
• 1:16:31
  Unknown: Try 10,000 a month, 120,000
• 1:16:34
  a year for somebody that worked in the water department because it didn't run through the federal system where they steal 90% of it and then send it back to you.
• 1:16:43
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:16:46
  Yeah.
• 1:16:47
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:16:49
  So well, Eric, what else is going on with you? You're about to apply for Social Security. Are you doing it at 62,
• 1:16:55
  or did you wait till you're 65?
• 1:16:58
  Unknown: 62.5.
• 1:16:59
  Unknown: Good for you. And now, you know I'm gonna get all I can out of them. Well, absolutely. And you know, it's funny when I did that, and they try and push you off till 65.
• 1:17:09
  Have you had any interactions with them yet?
• 1:17:13
  Unknown: Not yet. I'm filling out the paperwork now and attaching everything, and I'm gonna go down tomorrow to the Social Security office and file it. Okay. Well, when I did it, I had to do it over the telephone.
• 1:17:22
  Unknown: Tell them I was gonna apply and all that stuff, and the girl says, well, are you sure you don't wanna wait till you're 65? You get more.
• 1:17:30
  Yeah.
• 1:17:31
  Okay. Now at that point,
• 1:17:33
  Eric, what's the logical question that you ask when they make that statement?
• 1:17:40
  I'm just taking it out. I don't have a question. No. No. No. There's a good quest there's a real good question lurking there that nobody asks.
• 1:17:48
  Unknown: What do you think? It may not be there when I'm 65.
• 1:17:51
  Unknown: Well, the question is, how much more?
• 1:17:56
  Oh, don't you wanna wait till you're 65? You'll get more.
• 1:18:00
  How much more?
• 1:18:02
  Oh, about $30
• 1:18:04
  a month. I said, give it to me now.
• 1:18:08
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:18:12
  Unknown: I'll take it now. Thank you very much.
• 1:18:17
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:18:18
  Unknown: Three years of inflation
• 1:18:20
  does not equate to 30 a month three years down the line. No.
• 1:18:26
  Unknown: You got that right.
• 1:18:29
  The other thing that yeah. I think you pointed out too with the passport. Ralph Roederudz pointed it out. And on the first page passport, it says the secretary of state of The United States Of America
• 1:18:41
  hereby request all whom it may concern to permit the citizen slash
• 1:18:47
  national
• 1:18:48
  of The United States named herein
• 1:18:51
  to pass without delay and hindrance,
• 1:18:54
  and in case of need, to give all lawful
• 1:18:56
  aid and protection.
• 1:18:58
  Unknown: Now tell you So right there, the citizen slash national. It's all through the documentation.
• 1:19:03
  I'll tell you there's something else very interesting on the passport itself
• 1:19:07
  if you're astute enough to notice it,
• 1:19:10
  and that is that both
• 1:19:12
  statuses are represented.
• 1:19:14
  They say US on a lot of the verbiage,
• 1:19:17
  but if you look in the background,
• 1:19:19
  on the background, in the back, what does it say? USA.
• 1:19:25
  Unknown: Right. Right. Okay.
• 1:19:27
  Unknown: They man, listen. These guys are slick, buddy.
• 1:19:31
  They cover
• 1:19:32
  every little
• 1:19:34
  angle. This is so well thought out,
• 1:19:38
  so well planned,
• 1:19:39
  and incredibly
• 1:19:40
  well
• 1:19:42
  instituted.
• 1:19:46
  Unknown: Yep. Amazing.
• 1:19:48
  Unknown: I mean, look at how long it's taken us to figure this thing out from 1933
• 1:19:53
  on March 9.
• 1:19:55
  How many decades
• 1:19:57
  it took to figure it out?
• 1:20:00
  Just the three years of the three men's lives that I'm intimately familiar with, over a hundred years of our personal lives and research to get to these simple things that we lay out for you for free here on this radio program on a daily basis.
• 1:20:19
  Unknown: Yep. It's just learning the knowledge and putting it to use.
• 1:20:25
  Unknown: Good. I appreciate everything you've done. Well and I and I appreciate the fact that it touched you, and you've and it motivated you, and you've done what you've done. You know? You people doing what you're doing is what gives me the absolute maximum
• 1:20:39
  feedback.
• 1:20:42
  I can sit here and run my jaw and run my mouth all day long for years and if it doesn't touch anybody,
• 1:20:49
  there's no feedback. I know I'm getting the truth out but when I see it touch somebody and change your life,
• 1:20:56
  that's my feedback.
• 1:21:00
  Yep. That's my attaboy.
• 1:21:02
  That's when the big guy gives me an attaboy.
• 1:21:12
  And it's real special. It's real special, man. I'm telling you and you may, if you, I I hope you can appreciate this but you may not be able to what I'm about to tell you. If you don't have something that gives your life purpose,
• 1:21:25
  man, I I feel so sorry for you. Find something that gives your life purpose.
• 1:21:31
  It makes all the difference in the world.
• 1:21:35
  Unknown: Well, I got that. I got a grandson
• 1:21:37
  that means all to me,
• 1:21:39
  and that's the purpose why I'm putting everything away for him, ultimately.
• 1:21:43
  Unknown: You do cuckoo over that grandson a lot, don't you?
• 1:21:47
  Well, yeah, you have to. I mean, he's the only one I got, so probably the only one I'll ever have. Well, see, I don't have see here, Eric, I don't have anything like that in my life, so you people are my grandchildren.
• 1:21:59
  You people are my children. I've said that before on the air, people laugh at me, but that's exactly how I look at everyone of you guys. That's why I take so much care with everybody that's new that comes along and try to grab em by the hand and walk em down this path. The easiest, quickest way I can get you down the damn path to the circle in the forest where understanding lies.
• 1:22:23
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:22:24
  Hey, Roger. A little bit about the cryptos.
• 1:22:26
  Unknown: Yes, sir. How about that this morning? The k
• 1:22:29
  Unknown: the KBC's
• 1:22:30
  up over 10¢ a coin.
• 1:22:33
  They're projecting it to be 50¢ per or 40¢ by July 4. Actually, it's guaranteed to be 40¢ if you're a Carabarge member.
• 1:22:41
  Unknown: Yes. And
• 1:22:43
  we should probably we we mentioned this a while back, and I'm glad that you touched on it, Eric,
• 1:22:50
  because I, you know, I've got a pretty good familiarity
• 1:22:53
  with this company for many years. Hey, Doug. And when he came out with that offer a couple months ago,
• 1:22:59
  that on July 4, it's Gold Freedom Day,
• 1:23:03
  and that he he would exchange a 100 coins for a gram of gold.
• 1:23:08
  Now Right. Gold is above 24 carat pure carat bar gold is about $75.
• 1:23:15
  Okay? Thereabouts.
• 1:23:17
  And
• 1:23:18
  so, that would mean that at least it had to be 7¢ for him to break even.
• 1:23:26
  Unknown: Right. Right.
• 1:23:28
  Unknown: Okay.
• 1:23:29
  So,
• 1:23:30
  what I got back from Pat Gamble, I mentioned it a little yesterday,
• 1:23:34
  sent me a message Sunday night after the Dubai thing was over and he said, at the meeting, they were saying that the Carrot Bar coin will be 50 times
• 1:23:45
  its current value
• 1:23:47
  by September.
• 1:23:48
  Now whether that's from
• 1:23:50
  his lips to God's ears, okay?
• 1:23:53
  Because if it's
• 1:23:54
  50 times what it is right now in September,
• 1:23:57
  it's gonna be about $5 a coin. And any of us that got into it for under a penny are gonna be very happy. Hey, Doug. How what's going on in Northwest Arkansas today, brother?
• 1:24:09
  Unknown: Oh, it's a beautiful day.
• 1:24:11
  Had to work on a leak under my sink,
• 1:24:15
  and,
• 1:24:16
  I've been listening to the show here. And one of the things that
• 1:24:21
  you mentioned early on,
• 1:24:24
  was about making
• 1:24:26
  statements
• 1:24:27
  that are challengeable,
• 1:24:29
  excuse me,
• 1:24:31
  as
• 1:24:33
  opposed to
• 1:24:34
  what I understand to be negative of vermin in
• 1:24:39
  the legal
• 1:24:40
  vernacular.
• 1:24:42
  And
• 1:24:43
  I
• 1:24:45
  I've written a lot of
• 1:24:48
  court documents using
• 1:24:50
  this
• 1:24:51
  tactic,
• 1:24:51
  if you will,
• 1:24:53
  but I would like you to explain
• 1:24:57
  that maybe more clearly,
• 1:25:00
  Unknown: you or Chris or someone else that's familiar with it? Well, I mean, it's pretty simple. You make a positive statement, somebody can challenge you. If you make a a negative statement, it's much more difficult form to challenge. I'm not saying they can't because some slick Edomite might be able to figure out a way to do it but
• 1:25:18
  generally, that's pretty much it. If you come from a negative thing, it's like, okay, disprove this. If you've if you make a positive statement, they're trying to disprove what you're saying, aren't they? If they're gonna challenge it.
• 1:25:32
  Unknown: Yeah. Well, what I did, the the the
• 1:25:36
  tactic I used was
• 1:25:38
  a statement like, I am not in possession
• 1:25:41
  of any evidence
• 1:25:44
  to the contrary
• 1:25:45
  that I am
• 1:25:48
  a fourteenth amendment citizen or not a fourteenth amendment citizen.
• 1:25:54
  Unknown: Does that make sense? Well, it does, but why not go back to the what's the what's foundation of the fourteenth amendment citizens,
• 1:26:01
  a black slave who was in in slavery
• 1:26:05
  before the civil war, and that's what the only category of people, to my knowledge, that that amendment
• 1:26:11
  applied to.
• 1:26:14
  Unknown: So So then you would say,
• 1:26:16
  in this situation, you would say, I am not in possession of any evidence
• 1:26:22
  to the contrary that I am a fourteenth amendment citizen?
• 1:26:26
  Unknown: Well, I would say something like I'm not related to black
• 1:26:30
  slaves who were freed after the Civil War.
• 1:26:34
  If I might I receive and here we go back to the substantive law. You can, Chris. Just hold on a second. Now if you really wanna get into it, now you can go back to this substantive law
• 1:26:44
  of, you know, I received no rights, no civil rights from the fourteenth amendment.
• 1:26:50
  Therefore, I owe no correlative duties.
• 1:26:55
  See, now that's Black's law
• 1:26:58
  Unknown: Black's Law you
• 1:27:01
  know, I looked this up before I called in because it's been twenty years since I used to write a lot of documents
• 1:27:07
  for
• 1:27:09
  myself and others,
• 1:27:11
  but
• 1:27:13
  that's what blacks and I'm speaking
• 1:27:16
  from the
• 1:27:18
  revised fourth edition here, but, you know, he
• 1:27:21
  that's probably the most important word in in the description here is that it's substantive,
• 1:27:28
  which is another very important
• 1:27:30
  word when it comes to, if you will, rights. Yep.
• 1:27:34
  Unknown: Yep.
• 1:27:36
  Because they have these rights they call rights over there under their UCC stuff, but they're really privileges,
• 1:27:43
  and
• 1:27:44
  yeah, there's mean, how many countless
• 1:27:47
  times and I hear the highest
• 1:27:49
  people
• 1:27:51
  of expertise and accomplishment in our field on the internet and videos,
• 1:27:57
  and get up there and say,
• 1:27:59
  constitutional rights,
• 1:28:01
  constitutional rights, constitutional rights,
• 1:28:04
  the only rights that
• 1:28:06
  constitution bestows on anybody are under the scope and purview of the fourteenth amendment.
• 1:28:11
  Otherwise,
• 1:28:12
  you receive your capital r rights and owe your capital d duties
• 1:28:17
  to the capital g god.
• 1:28:21
  Unknown: If you're a citizen, then you're a capital C citizen.
• 1:28:25
  Unknown: Correct, and you're res And if
• 1:28:27
  they ask you where your residency is, you say
• 1:28:32
  heaven.
• 1:28:36
  Unknown: Amen.
• 1:28:37
  Unknown: Okay? Because when you file this and you move over into that status, that's exactly where your residency is. Your residency is where you receive your rights and to whom you owe your duties. That's substantive law, okay? And should you be over in this US national
• 1:28:54
  state
• 1:28:55
  citizen, I'd suggest you don't use that word, but it is appropriate.
• 1:29:00
  Why not use their nomenclature?
• 1:29:02
  When you move over to the exempt pool of folks, you go in there and you owe your rights and you get your rights from god and you owe your duties to heaven and him and that's your residency.
• 1:29:15
  Unknown: So, if anybody has the only
• 1:29:19
  Unknown: anybody legitimately
• 1:29:20
  ask you that question. Well, if you're not a resident of the state, Doug, where is your residency?
• 1:29:27
  Well, I reside in heaven.
• 1:29:30
  Because that's where I get my rights and to whom I owe my duties under my corrected status.
• 1:29:39
  Unknown: Well, like Brent mentions
• 1:29:41
  often
• 1:29:42
  that
• 1:29:45
  the father creator is the only true law creator and law giver. Yep.
• 1:29:51
  Unknown: The rest are impostors, buddy.
• 1:29:54
  What gives that man
• 1:29:56
  the right to pass laws and implement
• 1:29:59
  them on me?
• 1:30:03
  That's the question.
• 1:30:06
  Chris, you were gonna say something a minute ago?
• 1:30:10
  Unknown: Well, I was just going to interject that in their world, they work in the duality,
• 1:30:15
  the two faced. Sure they do. The
• 1:30:18
  positives are negatives. If positive raw and negative raw are the same thing, assets and debits are the same thing. There is no separation in their world.
• 1:30:27
  So whether you positive or negative a verb, but deny their allegations,
• 1:30:32
  it's basically inconsequential
• 1:30:35
  as long as you do not admit to being what false label or false laws of label they try to label you with
• 1:30:43
  for their own predatory interest.
• 1:30:45
  If you have a verb denied, rebutted, or otherwise
• 1:30:49
  cast off their inferences,
• 1:30:51
  then you have effectively
• 1:30:53
  mooted or denuded
• 1:30:55
  Unknown: their efforts to false label you for their own predatory interest. You gotta do it in just the right way to just the right person. That's the hitch.
• 1:31:04
  Okay?
• 1:31:05
  Listen. Let me get let me plug this guy a little bit because I've been watching a bunch of his videos lately and I'm super impressed with him and I want to talk about this yesterday. We got off into a pretty spirited conversation yesterday.
• 1:31:18
  This guy, Seffer,
• 1:31:20
  Robert Seffer
• 1:31:22
  and if you may remember him, if the name doesn't really ring a bell with you, he's the guy that that wrote
• 1:31:30
  sixteen sixty six Redemption Through Sin.
• 1:31:34
  Unknown: And. I was watching some of his.
• 1:31:37
  Unknown: Man, he has got a bunch of stuff on the Internet on these little short
• 1:31:43
  things, videos he's done on different really important
• 1:31:47
  historical
• 1:31:48
  and
• 1:31:50
  anthropological
• 1:31:51
  type
• 1:31:52
  things on where we came from and tracing
• 1:31:55
  lineage and arrowheads.
• 1:31:58
  He's got just got a myriad
• 1:32:00
  of different videos on there and just go let me get a spelling, it's s h
• 1:32:06
  e p h r, I think.
• 1:32:08
  Okay? It's a very unusual
• 1:32:12
  name.
• 1:32:13
  Unknown: Roger? I Yeah. I think s
• 1:32:16
  Unknown: e p h A R, Well, that's not even correct. I'm sitting here looking at it, it's S
• 1:32:23
  E P
• 1:32:25
  E
• 1:32:26
  H R,
• 1:32:27
  Sephar,
• 1:32:28
  S E P
• 1:32:31
  E
• 1:32:32
  H
• 1:32:33
  R,
• 1:32:34
  and I highly encourage, if any y'all like to look into this type of historical stuff,
• 1:32:39
  to go in there and watch, just put his name into YouTube and probably a whole bevy will come up. I've just been referencing over on the right side where they list other ones, but this guy is a super, super guy and does really,
• 1:32:55
  really good work.
• 1:32:57
  Now
• 1:32:58
  I was watching one the other night
• 1:33:00
  on the banking systems and the origins of banking and stuff,
• 1:33:05
  and there was a statement made in there that really caught my ear,
• 1:33:10
  and that is that the international
• 1:33:13
  banking
• 1:33:14
  system
• 1:33:15
  is that we're dealing with today
• 1:33:17
  came out of Venice in the 1500s,
• 1:33:21
  and it's when this whole black nobility
• 1:33:24
  originated
• 1:33:25
  and Venice,
• 1:33:27
  Italy
• 1:33:28
  was the hub of trade. They had their own navy and stuff, man.
• 1:33:32
  Okay? And he said, what we're dealing with now moved from Venice when Venice kind of lost its luster,
• 1:33:39
  and it moved over to London, and we've been saddled with it ever since. And I think there's a lot of truth to that.
• 1:33:48
  Hey, Roger. Yes, Doug.
• 1:33:51
  Unknown: One other thing I wanted to that came to mind that I wanted to mention that's very important and salient in this
• 1:34:00
  on this issue is
• 1:34:01
  jurisdiction.
• 1:34:02
  Unknown: Oh, it's huge.
• 1:34:04
  It's huge.
• 1:34:05
  Unknown: And
• 1:34:06
  yeah. And
• 1:34:08
  jurisdiction,
• 1:34:10
  when I
• 1:34:11
  was working with this other older fellow,
• 1:34:15
  you know, twenty years back and so and and we used to
• 1:34:20
  help people out in in court situations
• 1:34:23
  and that. And there was one situation where this lady,
• 1:34:28
  somebody,
• 1:34:29
  quote, helped her.
• 1:34:31
  And
• 1:34:32
  they just they every,
• 1:34:35
  let's say, county or jurisdiction,
• 1:34:38
  they have their own
• 1:34:40
  rule book. Okay? Their own rules
• 1:34:43
  Uh-oh. In their in their particular jurisdiction.
• 1:34:47
  And whoever helped her,
• 1:34:49
  this,
• 1:34:50
  individual
• 1:34:51
  wrote something for her,
• 1:34:54
  copying something from another county,
• 1:34:57
  another jurisdiction.
• 1:34:59
  And, of course, we had to, and she
• 1:35:02
  was getting into trouble with this,
• 1:35:05
  and, the judge threw it out, but then you then he realizes
• 1:35:10
  this
• 1:35:12
  defendant doesn't know what they're talking about because they're using
• 1:35:17
  inapplicable
• 1:35:18
  rules
• 1:35:19
  from another jurisdiction.
• 1:35:22
  And so at this point, it was, like, already a done deal, sort of. You know? But,
• 1:35:28
  you know, we did the best we could. But at that point,
• 1:35:32
  the,
• 1:35:33
  the horse was already out of the barn, the corral, so to speak. And,
• 1:35:39
  but jurisdiction
• 1:35:41
  is so important,
• 1:35:42
  and we're going under the jurisdiction
• 1:35:45
  of heaven.
• 1:35:47
  Unknown: Yep. Exactly right. And Now you'll probably have Daryl calling in, which you're talking about his
• 1:35:53
  pet subject municipal
• 1:35:54
  law,
• 1:35:56
  but my comment would be,
• 1:35:58
  but if you go
• 1:36:00
  above the municipal law people that write their own rules and above the state people and go all the way to the head knocker that's controlling this thing, and you make your statement to him, they've got to adhere to it. If you fight them from the bottom up, they're going to fight you just exactly like you said and try and take command,
• 1:36:18
  and you're going to have a hell of a time with that case
• 1:36:22
  fighting through all the layers of bureaucrats
• 1:36:25
  that have their entire future at stake to defeat you.
• 1:36:30
  Unknown: Well, I just wanted to bring that up for,
• 1:36:33
  the benefit of elucidation
• 1:36:35
  on this,
• 1:36:37
  negative of vermin and jurisdiction
• 1:36:39
  Unknown: and that kind of thing. Okay, well I'm glad you did because you brought something to mind.
• 1:36:44
  If you go to somebody was asking me yesterday, one of our students Gary,
• 1:36:49
  saying, well what
• 1:36:50
  volume of blacks law should I buy?
• 1:36:53
  And I wrote him back said, well, probably the fourth, isn't the fourth the green one or is that the sixth?
• 1:37:00
  Unknown: The fourth is the one that's The the green
• 1:37:03
  Unknown: fourth is the green one, right?
• 1:37:07
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:37:08
  Unknown: Well, that one, the reason I recommend that is if any of you, you don't want to go, what's a what's a Black's Law Dictionary cost these days? $50.75
• 1:37:18
  dollars brand new from the bookstore?
• 1:37:20
  Go to a used bookstore
• 1:37:22
  and you probably can find one of those green ones,
• 1:37:26
  or even a seven for,
• 1:37:28
  you know, $20,
• 1:37:30
  if not less.
• 1:37:31
  Unknown: Well, you can if you have a university
• 1:37:34
  in your,
• 1:37:35
  in where you live,
• 1:37:38
  they
• 1:37:39
  the students have to buy these books.
• 1:37:42
  So I used to go that's where I got some of my legal
• 1:37:48
  books from. I'd go to the Use books. University because we have a yeah. And I used to also go into their law library.
• 1:37:57
  It was when you love something and you love to study it.
• 1:38:02
  So it brought me back to when I was doing
• 1:38:05
  my work and,
• 1:38:07
  I used to go into the university
• 1:38:10
  because I had someone
• 1:38:12
  I was related to at the time that,
• 1:38:16
  was a student at the university so I could go in there and
• 1:38:20
  that was,
• 1:38:22
  quite an experience.
• 1:38:24
  Mean, they they've got a lot of documents.
• 1:38:27
  Unknown: Law libraries, if you know what you're doing and what you're looking for and can manipulate your way around them a little bit, are pretty cool. They got some really cool reference books in there and you can certainly investigate
• 1:38:39
  a whole lot. Okay, what I wanted to bring up, Doug, was the question,
• 1:38:44
  word that was the point of your comment here, jurisdiction.
• 1:38:47
  Now you have a fourth, do you have it right there?
• 1:38:52
  Yeah. Well, look up jurisdiction in the fourth,
• 1:38:55
  and while you're doing that, I was gonna tell you what I know it has for it in the seventh,
• 1:39:01
  and I'm sure it's changed, okay?
• 1:39:04
  But if you go to the seventh, which is the one that I purchased and used a lot when I was doing a lot of my initial stuff,
• 1:39:11
  and go to the term jurisdiction,
• 1:39:13
  you know what it says, Chris? The definition for that? Now jurisdiction is a pretty big concept,
• 1:39:18
  right? And you go to the notable law dictionary, most people use familiar with blacks, and go to that term in the seventh, you know what it says?
• 1:39:32
  Unknown: No, but I know that there were many changes because I did compare
• 1:39:37
  different
• 1:39:38
  books They at the
• 1:39:39
  Unknown: changed it. That's why I told Gary to get one of the earlier ones because they hadn't changed it as much as they have the later ones. Brent made a statement here a week or two ago that it
• 1:39:50
  sounded like he had
• 1:39:52
  really preferred
• 1:39:53
  the seventh edition because the people that had put it together. But Chris, do you know what it says in the seventh there for this huge concept of jurisdiction as a definition?
• 1:40:09
  I don't guess he does. Eric?
• 1:40:11
  Eric's still with us. Doug's we're conversing.
• 1:40:14
  Well, let me tell you what it says
• 1:40:17
  since nobody wants to pony up here.
• 1:40:20
  That huge concept of jurisdiction that we could sit here and talk
• 1:40:25
  quite a bit about, okay,
• 1:40:27
  the definition in Black's Law Dictionary to the right of it says the state of the forum,
• 1:40:34
  five words.
• 1:40:35
  That's the entire definition for the entire concept of jurisdiction,
• 1:40:40
  the state of the forum.
• 1:40:45
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:40:47
  I'm
• 1:40:49
  looking at the word in my fork here, and
• 1:40:54
  I
• 1:40:55
  I'll read a little bit. There's
• 1:40:57
  not a lot of there's more the whole thing is
• 1:41:01
  there is a footnote here,
• 1:41:04
  but there's, like, tons and tons and tons of cases. Okay?
• 1:41:10
  And it says here in the beginning,
• 1:41:14
  the word is a term
• 1:41:17
  of large
• 1:41:18
  and comprehensive
• 1:41:19
  import,
• 1:41:21
  comma,
• 1:41:22
  and embraces
• 1:41:23
  every kind of judicial
• 1:41:27
  action.
• 1:41:28
  And then they just give a whole bunch of things.
• 1:41:31
  Now here's the footnote.
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  It is jurisdiction.
• 1:41:35
  It it is the authority,
• 1:41:39
  capacity,
• 1:41:40
  another important word there,
• 1:41:42
  power
• 1:41:43
  or right
• 1:41:45
  to act.
• 1:41:46
  And that's what this says.
• 1:41:49
  So
• 1:41:50
  we're
• 1:41:51
  as far as I understand
• 1:41:53
  this, we're talking about issues in court
• 1:41:58
  primarily,
• 1:41:59
  but it could be with police. If you understand
• 1:42:03
  what jurisdiction you're under,
• 1:42:05
  then you know what
• 1:42:07
  rules or policies
• 1:42:08
  Unknown: do or don't apply to you. Let me let me give a a really important
• 1:42:13
  base level lesson.
• 1:42:16
  Never argue jurisdiction
• 1:42:18
  with a police officer.
• 1:42:20
  Don't do it.
• 1:42:23
  Unknown: It is not
• 1:42:26
  Unknown: good patriot etiquette.
• 1:42:28
  People that do that occasionally end up dead.
• 1:42:32
  Don't do it.
• 1:42:37
  Unknown: Exactly.
• 1:42:40
  Now here's another thing here. It says,
• 1:42:43
  jurisdiction,
• 1:42:44
  it is the power of him
• 1:42:46
  who has the right
• 1:42:49
  of judging.
• 1:42:51
  These are short sentences.
• 1:42:53
  There's another one. And then they have, like, just, you know, a dozen or or or a 100 court
• 1:43:01
  cases. There's
• 1:43:02
  another one.
• 1:43:03
  It is of three times
• 1:43:06
  of the subject matter of the when they use the word person
• 1:43:12
  and
• 1:43:13
  to render particular judgment
• 1:43:16
  which was given.
• 1:43:19
  Unknown: Yep. And what happens is, Doug, they they have their jurisdictional
• 1:43:23
  statement in the first paragraph of every lawsuit that's filed.
• 1:43:28
  Now you, not understanding those words, never recognized it as such,
• 1:43:34
  but right there at the first, it'd say,
• 1:43:37
  Doug
• 1:43:38
  Cosmos,
• 1:43:39
  a resident of Fayetteville County or Siouxie Piggs County or whatever the hell it is up there. And right there, a resident of, boom, there's a jurisdictional statement. First paragraph, every lawsuit.
• 1:43:55
  Unknown: Exactly.
• 1:43:56
  Here's another one for a sentence.
• 1:43:59
  The amount claimed in
• 1:44:02
  good faith
• 1:44:03
  is the test of jurisdiction.
• 1:44:07
  Unknown: The what? And repeat that one. Repeat that first because you dropped out there first. I wanna hear it contiguously.
• 1:44:15
  Unknown: The amount claimed in good faith is the test of jurisdiction.
• 1:44:20
  Unknown: The amount claimed in good faith, that's on looking for a remedy, obviously.
• 1:44:25
  If Gary's listening or anybody else is in this quandary,
• 1:44:28
  one of the nice things about the fourth edition, the green cover of Blacks,
• 1:44:33
  is they did predominantly
• 1:44:35
  what Doug is illustrating
• 1:44:37
  for us here, is they would make a statement and then they would buttress it with a lot of excerpts dealing with that particular topic from court cases. Some of them are Supreme Court, some of them are appellate level, etc, but now if you really want to hone in on a word, Doug,
• 1:44:56
  and you were, say, over there by the university,
• 1:45:00
  and you went over and sashayed into the law library.
• 1:45:05
  The place to really hone down on a word is a group of books in the law library
• 1:45:11
  called Words and Phrases.
• 1:45:14
  Have you ever been in that bunch of books?
• 1:45:18
  Unknown: No.
• 1:45:19
  Go ahead. But I have, from other writings,
• 1:45:23
  understand it's
• 1:45:25
  Unknown: been used, but I didn't do that in the law library. Well, it's in the law libraries where you generally find it. You can probably find it online these days.
• 1:45:33
  But if you put words and go in to words and phrases, and let's say you wanted to look at this word jurisdiction, I'm going to give you another example in a minute, but if you wanted to look at jurisdiction, you'd go to the J and open it up and find the word, and there'd be a whole slew court cases just like the fourth that really pointed in with excerpts from that court case on the jurisdictional issue.
• 1:45:57
  Now,
• 1:45:58
  the reason I tell you this is because years ago,
• 1:46:02
  when I was in Cobb County up there in Marietta, I went down to their law library and I went over to words and phrases because I was then as I am now
• 1:46:11
  particularly interested in a word called we we use quite a bit called resident.
• 1:46:18
  And if you go into words and phrases in a law library, maybe online,
• 1:46:23
  and look under the word resident,
• 1:46:26
  one of the court excerpts they've got there, Doug,
• 1:46:29
  makes a real simple and concise
• 1:46:32
  statement,
• 1:46:33
  and it says anytime this word is used in a legal context,
• 1:46:39
  its definition
• 1:46:40
  is
• 1:46:41
  always
• 1:46:43
  political.
• 1:46:45
  Always.
• 1:46:46
  Unknown: There you go.
• 1:46:49
  Unknown: So, words and phrases as you're getting into this or you're exploring something is a real valuable tool and I would never have known about that group of books if I didn't go through paralegal school because that's where I learned about it.
• 1:47:04
  Unknown: Would you restate that again?
• 1:47:08
  Unknown: Restate
• 1:47:09
  Unknown: what was in the book or Well, what you just said about resident
• 1:47:13
  Unknown: step. If you go to words and phrases, a specific
• 1:47:17
  name of a group of books in a law library is where you're generally going to find it.
• 1:47:22
  And under the term resident,
• 1:47:24
  one of the excerpts from a court case that was listed under there, I do not remember which one, this is twenty five or more years ago,
• 1:47:33
  it said whenever the term resident is used in a legal
• 1:47:39
  context,
• 1:47:40
  its definition
• 1:47:42
  is
• 1:47:43
  always
• 1:47:44
  political.
• 1:47:47
  Unknown: There you go.
• 1:47:48
  And that's and and that's a tricky word there.
• 1:47:52
  Like I was mentioning a couple of days ago about
• 1:47:56
  when they wanted me to be on the jury, and I said, well, just to clarify,
• 1:48:01
  my political
• 1:48:02
  status
• 1:48:04
  is
• 1:48:05
  a a national,
• 1:48:07
  and I don't
• 1:48:10
  I'm not a resident.
• 1:48:12
  I I dwell here.
• 1:48:14
  Okay?
• 1:48:15
  And so if I may, there's just two more sentences here that's pretty much that's it for black's law.
• 1:48:23
  This is kind of important here. They have this in quotes.
• 1:48:28
  Three words or three four words. It says,
• 1:48:32
  jurisdiction
• 1:48:34
  of subject
• 1:48:36
  dash
• 1:48:37
  matter Yes.
• 1:48:39
  Means
• 1:48:41
  means jurisdiction
• 1:48:43
  of class
• 1:48:45
  of cases
• 1:48:46
  to which particular
• 1:48:48
  case
• 1:48:49
  belongs.
• 1:48:53
  Okay. So it's not like you go into
• 1:48:57
  Unknown: go ahead. Let me say this. There's two types of jurisdiction. You know this, I think, probably. I know Chris does.
• 1:49:04
  There's personal jurisdiction
• 1:49:06
  and there's subject matter jurisdiction,
• 1:49:11
  and in either one of those,
• 1:49:13
  supposedly
• 1:49:14
  by the rules,
• 1:49:17
  jurisdiction is challenged
• 1:49:19
  at any point in the court case,
• 1:49:22
  the court case stops,
• 1:49:23
  that jurisdiction has that jurisdictional challenge has to be met and satisfied
• 1:49:28
  before the proceedings pick up and go forward.
• 1:49:31
  That's the way it's supposed to work.
• 1:49:35
  Unknown: I understand.
• 1:49:36
  Yeah. But they my personal
• 1:49:39
  case, they ignored all that, although I brought it to to them. Okay, here's And the last Doug,
• 1:49:45
  Unknown: hold it for the audience. Let me make a point.
• 1:49:48
  Because you just made the point, I'm gonna make a counterpoint.
• 1:49:52
  If you would have had that declaration
• 1:49:54
  or affidavit filed with the Secretary of State, they couldn't have overridden your jurisdictional
• 1:49:59
  challenge.
• 1:50:01
  They can if you don't, but if you've got it filed up there with the head knocker and you stand belligerently on your position,
• 1:50:08
  they cannot roll over you.
• 1:50:12
  Unknown: Exactly.
• 1:50:14
  I understand that. And so we have, here closing
• 1:50:18
  this section on jurisdiction.
• 1:50:21
  The last one was just,
• 1:50:23
  jurisdiction of subject matter. And now,
• 1:50:27
  in agreement with what you just laid out there, here's the last one.
• 1:50:32
  Jurisdiction
• 1:50:33
  of the person,
• 1:50:35
  in quotes,
• 1:50:37
  is power
• 1:50:38
  to subject parties
• 1:50:41
  in a particular case
• 1:50:43
  to decisions
• 1:50:45
  and rulings
• 1:50:46
  made
• 1:50:48
  in such case. Bingo.
• 1:50:52
  Unknown: Read it again. There you go. Read it again,
• 1:50:55
  please.
• 1:50:57
  Unknown: Okay. In quotes, jurisdiction of the person,
• 1:51:01
  end of quote,
• 1:51:03
  his
• 1:51:04
  power
• 1:51:05
  to subject
• 1:51:07
  parties
• 1:51:08
  in a particular case
• 1:51:11
  to decisions
• 1:51:13
  and rulings
• 1:51:14
  made
• 1:51:15
  in such case.
• 1:51:17
  Unknown: To subject
• 1:51:19
  parties.
• 1:51:21
  Now is subject a verb or a noun there?
• 1:51:26
  Well, doesn't say, but I would say No, it doesn't. Be That's why
• 1:51:31
  I'm asking. Would
• 1:51:33
  parties that be a
• 1:51:36
  are subject subject to what?
• 1:51:40
  Jurisdiction thereof.
• 1:51:44
  Unknown: Well,
• 1:51:45
  subject here is to the decisions and the rulings.
• 1:51:49
  Unknown: Well, that's the that's the jurisdiction thereof because they're gonna follow the subject rulings and outlines from above in that remedy,
• 1:51:57
  I promise you.
• 1:52:00
  Unknown: Absolutely.
• 1:52:01
  Unknown: Okay, and that's called in personum
• 1:52:04
  jurisdiction legally.
• 1:52:08
  But there you go and that's listen, the whole rubber meeting the whole road is on that
• 1:52:14
  concept
• 1:52:14
  right there. What gives that
• 1:52:18
  hook nosed
• 1:52:19
  Edomite bastard up there in congress the ability to write these laws,
• 1:52:25
  get them through the regulatory
• 1:52:28
  sausage maker,
• 1:52:30
  and come apply them on me.
• 1:52:33
  Now the key in what I just said
• 1:52:36
  was the regulatory
• 1:52:37
  agencies because that's the key to the administrative
• 1:52:41
  state.
• 1:52:45
  Unknown: Well, and also what once the court started
• 1:52:48
  to apply
• 1:52:50
  precedents,
• 1:52:52
  then
• 1:52:53
  they didn't have to actually look at the facts. Hold it. Precedent
• 1:52:58
  Unknown: but hold it, Doug. Precedence is a common law concept.
• 1:53:04
  Unknown: Well, they use it out of common law.
• 1:53:07
  So they say, oh, this this judge, this case, they already decided it this way so it applies here. But when they don't wanna do that, then they go, no. We gotta judge this individually.
• 1:53:18
  Unknown: Well, no. This this regulation has been written, it overrides that. That's the kind of crap they pull right there. In six months of paralegal school,
• 1:53:26
  and we had 10 different modules, real estate law, contract law, legal research,
• 1:53:32
  etcetera, etcetera, that we dealt with, okay?
• 1:53:36
  And in that entire six months, in all of those modules,
• 1:53:40
  the only time I saw the words common law
• 1:53:44
  were in the legal research
• 1:53:46
  section,
• 1:53:47
  and you know what it said, Doug? It had common law and then it had
• 1:53:53
  precedent.
• 1:53:57
  Okay? And that's because that's what the common law was based
• 1:54:01
  proceeding cases.
• 1:54:02
  They've changed the formal law and taken it over down this commercial law, private law for public cases, and they can override
• 1:54:10
  those common law and those precedents at times with different
• 1:54:14
  commercial law or regulatory stuff. I mean, look and I'm thinking about this a bit lately.
• 1:54:21
  All the stuff that they've pulled
• 1:54:23
  like god out of the schools. How they get the 10 commandments out of the school?
• 1:54:28
  Supreme Court case. How did they get us all shoved down into the secondary citizen hip with Brown versus Board of Education?
• 1:54:35
  Supreme Court case. How did they get abortion legal? Supreme Court case.
• 1:54:40
  They're affecting their policy changes
• 1:54:43
  not only through the regulatory scheme, but they're using that Supreme Court like a hammer, and that's why they're freaking out about Trump. There's rumors out there that Ruth Bader Ginsburg's dead. I don't know if you've seen that. K? There was a while back too,
• 1:54:58
  and it proved to be false at the first of the year, but there's more rumors. They're absolutely terrified
• 1:55:05
  that that old hag is gonna die, and Trump's gonna get to put a conservative on there. Yes.
• 1:55:11
  Stack and pack the extreme supreme court. They're wanting to go back they're wanting to go back and restack the court now. Have you seen them float that trial balloon?
• 1:55:22
  Yes, sir. Okay. Chris, you're back.
• 1:55:25
  Did you have anything to add on our Doug and mine's pretty good discussion on jurisdiction and stuff here that I'm sure you heard.
• 1:55:33
  Unknown: Well, jurisdiction,
• 1:55:34
  the
• 1:55:36
  lawful right to
• 1:55:38
  of the words of law to act in a matter with authority to rule
• 1:55:42
  is everything.
• 1:55:44
  And when they don't have jurisdiction because you can only serve one, the creator or evil, wicked, perverse man, Frederick Bastier's
• 1:55:52
  treaties to law
• 1:55:54
  Unknown: is the underwriting premise that everything else stems from. Yes, sir. Sure is. Well, I'm gonna clear our captain for landing here, but he doesn't have much runway. Go, buddy. Zero.
• 1:56:07
  Unknown: Hey, guys.
• 1:56:09
  The federal supreme court had no
• 1:56:12
  absolutely no ability
• 1:56:14
  to address
• 1:56:16
  state
• 1:56:17
  citizens
• 1:56:18
  large C
• 1:56:20
  prior to the civil war.
• 1:56:23
  Period.
• 1:56:25
  Had no jurisdiction
• 1:56:27
  to address state
• 1:56:29
  Unknown: citizens. Let's explore that. Right. We're gonna run out of time here, and I think what you brought is interesting, and I think it's
• 1:56:38
  subject for discussion.
• 1:56:40
  And tomorrow, we got Paul. So why don't we lay this till Thursday and open up the show with this on Thursday? Because I'd never heard that before, and I'd like to hear more, and I'm sure the audience would too.
• 1:56:52
  K? Here it is. Yeah. Alright. I hear the whistler. Yeah. The whistler's tuning up. I gotta go meet all these crazy expats and have lunch and go grocery shopping. And one of the dogs here got gored by a by a cow evidently. He's got a big chunk out of his back leg. Gotta get some silver lawn on him at some point today. Oh. So, I got a pretty busy and you gotta catch him and hold him down to do it. So, I got a pretty busy day going on. I'll be back tomorrow with Paul and I hope you'll be with us and I thank everybody for the discussion today.
• 1:57:27
  Darryl, we'll see you soon too and I wanna hear about that, okay, buddy? You
• 1:57:32
  guys have a great day.
• 1:57:34
  Ciao. Ciao. Keep
• 1:57:37
  an eye on the markets.
• 1:57:42
  God bless you. Yes,
• 1:57:44
  sir.
• 1:58:25
  Unknown: Blasting the voice of freedom worldwide,
• 1:58:27
  you're listening to the Global Voice Radio Network.
• 1:58:31
  Unknown: Bye bye, boys. Have fun storming the castle.