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ADRIANE GALISTEU - Podpah · Luke's English Podcast

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  Speaker 4: Our wonderful guest.
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  Speaker 2: You're crazy, man. Are you okay?
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  Speaker 4: I'm great, thank God. Our Lord Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 6: I'm happy to talk to people like that.
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  Speaker 2: It makes us very happy.
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  Speaker 4: So, receive with a lot of affection, make a lot
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  Speaker 4: of noise, because who is here at our table today,
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  Speaker 4: nothing more, nothing less than her, model, actress, presenter, communicator,
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  Speaker 4: my God! Adriane Galisteu, clap your hands! I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: go up! I'm going to go up! Nossa, meu sonho
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  Speaker 4: é saber fazer isso também.
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  Speaker 3: Também não sei, ó.
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  Speaker 2: Eu também não sei.
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  Speaker 1: A todos os dedos da boca não sai nada.
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  Speaker 2: Meu pai fazia isso, eu falava, me ensina.
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  Speaker 4: Meu pai sabe fazer um que ele só dobra a
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  Speaker 4: língua para trás.
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  Speaker 1: Então, eu tenho uma amiga que faz.
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  Speaker 4: Não vai também, não vai.
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  Speaker 2: Mas você não sabe nenhum?
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  Speaker 1: Não, não vai nada, ó.
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  Speaker 4: Adriana, how are you? I'm fine, I'm happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm delighted with this house of yours. How did you
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  Speaker 1: get up in life? I'm shocked, washed, engulfed. No, the
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  Speaker 1: most beautiful thing about this place. I want to have
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  Speaker 1: a party here, I want to live here. Your room
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  Speaker 1: is separated.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in shock, I loved it.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations to you, you deserve it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of conversation, a lot of work.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing falls from the sky.
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  Speaker 4: Adri, let's start from the beginning with you. First of all,
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  Speaker 4: thank you. It's an honor to talk to you. It's
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  Speaker 4: a great privilege, because being with people like you on
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  Speaker 4: our table, we always learn a lot. It brings a
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  Speaker 4: lot of what we learn for our profession too.
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  Speaker 2: It's a sign that our work is working out.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly. So I wanted to know about you, how
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  Speaker 4: was your childhood? How was the little Adrianezinha? What did
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  Speaker 4: you dream of? What did you want to do?
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  Speaker 1: Adrianezinha was a girl... dreamer, but there was already a
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  Speaker 1: truth inside her that I wanted to have a microphone
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  Speaker 1: in my hand. So I had a plastic blue brush
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  Speaker 1: that I played with, and that brush was my microphone.
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  Speaker 1: So while my friends were playing in school, I put
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  Speaker 1: them there in the backyard of my house in Lapa,
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  Speaker 1: which still exists today, this little house there in Lapa,
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  Speaker 1: and I put them seated and I interviewed my friends
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  Speaker 1: with this blue brush.
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  Speaker 2: So, It's unconscious.
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  Speaker 3: The thing is unconscious.
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  Speaker 1: But I started playing with this blue brush, which I
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  Speaker 1: really regret not having this blue brush. Because I remember her,
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  Speaker 1: she had a wooden hairbrush.
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  Speaker 4: And the blue bristles. Yeah, tiny.
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  Speaker 6: But did you have any reference on TV that you
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  Speaker 6: were already imitating, copying?
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  Speaker 1: No, I think that was my role, you know? When
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  Speaker 1: I was little, I already started, I liked... My mother
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  Speaker 1: used to call the friends, I danced to the friends.
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  Speaker 1: What everyone dies of shame, I liked to do.
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  Speaker 2: I see.
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  Speaker 1: You know that thing that the father says, look how
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  Speaker 1: my son knows how to dance, and the son wants
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  Speaker 1: to die of shame? I wanted to mark the presentations,
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  Speaker 1: I was the family's exhibitor, you know? But small, very small.
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  Speaker 1: So small that when I was nine years old, I
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  Speaker 1: asked my mother that I wanted to start doing TV commercials.
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  Speaker 1: because I had a friend at school who already did
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  Speaker 1: it and I really wanted to do it. And then
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  Speaker 1: I said, mom, I didn't even know where to start.
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  Speaker 1: I come from a very humble family and we didn't
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  Speaker 1: even have the conditions to get to a test. So
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  Speaker 1: I remember as if it were today, for me to
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  Speaker 1: go to a test I had to get two conditions,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes we had money for just one. So I had
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  Speaker 1: to walk a lot and get the other. And sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I vomited on the bus, because I always got sick
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  Speaker 1: of cars and buses. My mother said, now she gives up.
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  Speaker 1: Now she gives up. And then I took a lot
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  Speaker 1: of no's. I still take a lot of no's to
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  Speaker 1: this day.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 1: How was this.
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  Speaker 2: Test with 9 years of age? In my time, it was.
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  Speaker 1: From the front, from the back, from the side, you yes,
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  Speaker 1: you no, you yes, you no.
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  Speaker 2: It was like that?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, but.
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  Speaker 3: How cruel!
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  Speaker 1: Brutal!
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  Speaker 4: With children!
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  Speaker 1: The system was brutal.
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  Speaker 2: If I get there, I'll be in the front. No,
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  Speaker 2: get out of here. What is it?
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  Speaker 3: Let me talk!
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  Speaker 4: Then you go back to the room and ask, damn, mom,
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  Speaker 4: am I deaf?
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  Speaker 2: Am I deaf?
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  Speaker 4: What happened? Am I wrong here, on this side?
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  Speaker 2: So, my mom thought that too.
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  Speaker 4: She said, now she's going.
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  Speaker 1: To give up, because for us it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: a disorder, because the test was never near home. So,
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  Speaker 1: it was always a kind of disorder. I remember that
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  Speaker 1: I used to do this with Angélica. Rodrigo Faro, we
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  Speaker 1: started a lot together. And the tests, when I found Angélica,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm leaving, mom, because she's going to win,
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  Speaker 1: the girl from Pinta is going to win.
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  Speaker 3: The girl from Pinta.
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  Speaker 1: The girl from Pinta is there, mom, I'm leaving, she's
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  Speaker 1: going to pass, I'm leaving. So, we started a lot together. So, this,
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of people, is traumatic, and for me,
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  Speaker 1: it only gave me strength, I never gave up. I said, no,
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  Speaker 1: one hour will work, mom, one hour will work. First commercial,
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  Speaker 1: I got it.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, and nobody What was it? How long did it take? Wow,
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  Speaker 2: that's cool!
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  Speaker 1: First, McDonald's. But I was the model of the model.
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  Speaker 1: I looked like a second hair flying, singing the song,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought that was the thing. I stopped everyone
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  Speaker 1: to see. Mom, mom, mom, look! That's me, I'm on
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  Speaker 1: top of that shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: But how was the test for you to.
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  Speaker 1: Accept to do this test? I'll never forget. It was
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  Speaker 1: something like that. All this woman, big, child, small, woman, man,
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  Speaker 1: had everything in this test. So, if I didn't pass
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  Speaker 1: this one, I would have to give up.
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  Speaker 2: Because, like.
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  Speaker 1: 40 people were approved, you know? So I said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to do this. The first commercial I did was
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  Speaker 1: for McDonald's in my life and it was as a model.
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  Speaker 1: Then my mother said, now she won't give up, because
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  Speaker 1: if a lot of no went wrong, now that it's
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  Speaker 1: a yes, now it's gone. I never stopped. At 9
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  Speaker 1: years old I didn't stop, and then at 10 there
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  Speaker 1: was a casting at TVS. Do you know what TVS is?
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  Speaker 2: Is it the old SBT? Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It was in Vila Guilherme.
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  Speaker 4: I was there, man.
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  Speaker 1: And then my dream was... I looked at Bozo. Do
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  Speaker 1: you remember Bozo? There was Bozo, right? A clown who
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  Speaker 1: did a show.
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  Speaker 4: Was it Luiz Ricardo at the time?
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  Speaker 1: Luiz Ricardo was one of the 12.
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  Speaker 2: There were three Bozos.
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  Speaker 1: There was a guy named Décio who died.
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  Speaker 4: Three Bozos?
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  Speaker 1: There were three.
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  Speaker 4: Ah, man, the guys fool us in everything.
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  Speaker 2: So, there were three.
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  Speaker 1: And my dream was to be Bozolina. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was such a big success. I thought, why doesn't Bozo
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  Speaker 1: have a girlfriend? It could be a Bozolina.
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  Speaker 4: And Bozo was gigantic, right?
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  Speaker 1: He was big, he had a hair like that on
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  Speaker 1: the side. I loved it. And then Silvio Santos, at
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  Speaker 1: the time, wanted to launch a children's group, because he
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  Speaker 1: was with a Mexican soap opera that was a success, right?
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  Speaker 2: Always, always.
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  Speaker 1: Called Xispita, which was an orphan girl who wore two
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  Speaker 1: little braids like that. And I think he was already
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  Speaker 1: passing this soap opera for a long time. It was over,
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  Speaker 1: I was already reprising, reprising. At that time, I already
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  Speaker 1: had this role there.
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  Speaker 4: Are you giving an audience now?
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  Speaker 1: It's getting there, it's getting there. And then I sang.
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  Speaker 1: The test was, he wanted to join a trio, called
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  Speaker 1: Trio Xpitas. And I went to sing there. I had
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  Speaker 1: never sung anything in my life.
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  Speaker 3: I passed.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was part of this group, Trio Xpitas.
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  Speaker 1: While the soap opera lasted, the group lasted. But we
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  Speaker 1: won the Platinum Gold Disc.
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  Speaker 4: Ah, so the group was successful. The group blew up.
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  Speaker 1: It was a children's group. When we started.
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  Speaker 1: It started to work very well.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't imagine that you would become a singer now?
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm just going to sing, or not?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, because this group ended and I started singing in
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  Speaker 1: another one. Then Silvio Santos finished the group and he said,
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  Speaker 1: let's build another one. But I was already a girl.
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  Speaker 1: I was in this group of 11 years old. Ah,
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  Speaker 1: there's an image, guys, look for it. I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: Silvio Santos, look for it on my networks. I posted.
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  Speaker 2: 12 years old.
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  Speaker 1: I ask Silvio Santos, how old are you?
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  Speaker 3: 12 years old. It's very cute.
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  Speaker 1: You can check it out. I think I posted it
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  Speaker 1: on Children's Day last year.
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  Speaker 2: This was the Xpita group. And this girl in.
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  Speaker 1: The middle is Lucerito. She was the main character. This
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  Speaker 1: was the.
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  Speaker 4: Girl from the soap opera.
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  Speaker 2: This is me. You went to the shows, did shows.
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  Speaker 2: How was that moment in your life?
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  Speaker 1: I went to the shows, did shows. We participated in
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  Speaker 1: radio shows. We did radio shows. So you were living
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  Speaker 1: a dream. Look, look, look.
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  Speaker 2: What is this, Mítico?
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  Speaker 4: No, and talking with eloquence, 12 years old, 12 years old,
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  Speaker 4: I was talking about Chimburgo, 12 years old. It's too early.
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  Speaker 6: Stop to think, I have a 15-year-old son, I can't
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  Speaker 6: imagine him working, I was already 12.
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  Speaker 1: Important money that I sent to my house, to my mother.
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  Speaker 1: I already helped my father and my mother. But I
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel that pressure. Everyone said, oh, but what an
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  Speaker 1: absurd to start working so early. I loved it. I
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  Speaker 1: was happy there. I wasn't happy inside my house. I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't happy at school. I was happy there.
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  Speaker 6: And how was the routine at that time, at that
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  Speaker 6: time of life? Because we who see children produced like you,
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  Speaker 6: we say, man, it's life.
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  Speaker 2: Does she live?
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  Speaker 1: So, I didn't have much story to tell. I played
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  Speaker 1: a little on the street, but I don't remember much
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  Speaker 1: of it. So the time my friends played, I would
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  Speaker 1: do tests, I would go to the TV, I would sing.
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  Speaker 1: So I went to school with my mom, super forced me.
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  Speaker 2: I understood this super.
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  Speaker 1: Super forced me, so much so that I did a
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  Speaker 1: master's degree to please her, because she didn't trust my career.
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  Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Because she understood it was a choice,
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  Speaker 1: but she said, you're going to have to do a
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  Speaker 1: master's degree, you're going to have to deliver a diploma here.
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  Speaker 2: But every mother does that.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, why? Why?
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  Speaker 1: Let me touch it. It's already working. It's already working.
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  Speaker 1: But how were you at school?
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  Speaker 2: Were you famous at school? I was famous at school.
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  Speaker 1: The principal didn't like me. That's why. Of course, because
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  Speaker 1: I was missing more.
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  Speaker 3: Than the others.
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  Speaker 1: You think you're exhibited. But I was that student who
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  Speaker 1: didn't give work.
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  Speaker 4: I sat in front.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't a CDF, but I sat in front. Because
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  Speaker 1: I knew I was missing. And I was capricious. So
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  Speaker 1: my work was always beautiful. My notebook was well done. But.
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  Speaker 1: At the race, I was always scratching.
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  Speaker 4: I never repeated it.
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  Speaker 2: That six and a half.
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  Speaker 1: To pass the year quickly, because I wanted to give
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  Speaker 1: it to my mother, actually. My concern was my mother
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  Speaker 1: letting me work.
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  Speaker 4: Damn, what an adult head. I already wanted to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I knew it would work. It started to work. But
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  Speaker 1: did you miss it at some point in your life?
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  Speaker 4: Like, I don't think I've played so much on the street.
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  Speaker 4: Did I miss it or not?
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  Speaker 1: I had a brother who played a lot on the
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  Speaker 1: street and he died at the age of 28. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with the street, but we
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  Speaker 1: lived in my neighborhood. It's very different from this neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: that is today. My neighborhood is Vila Romana, which is
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  Speaker 1: super cool today.
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  Speaker 4: Today it's super calm there.
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  Speaker 3: It's a cool neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: It has high apartments.
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  Speaker 1: In my time, it was a low-class neighborhood and rough.
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  Speaker 1: three streets down, it was chaos, drugs, confusion. My brother
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  Speaker 1: died because of that. He started using drugs very early.
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  Speaker 1: And I think my mother, thank God I didn't play
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  Speaker 1: on the street. Thank God you're working.
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  Speaker 4: Thank God you're not on this little street with the.
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  Speaker 1: Group, because today we're going to play on the street
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  Speaker 1: with the same people as my brother, with the younger
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  Speaker 1: brothers of my brother's friends. It was kind of this group.
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  Speaker 1: And so, it went very wrong. Not only my brother died,
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  Speaker 1: but his best friends too. So, I think that in
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  Speaker 1: the end, the street wasn't the place for me to
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  Speaker 1: play at that moment, in that neighborhood, in that way. So,
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  Speaker 1: my mother ended up leaving and stopping, and the thing
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  Speaker 1: turned out very well, because I was leaving there. Today,
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  Speaker 1: the neighborhood, I go back there, because my mother's house
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  Speaker 1: is there. And I made this house the place where
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  Speaker 1: I keep the things I earn from.
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  Speaker 4: Ah, it's yours, the house.
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  Speaker 1: It's our house, exactly as it was.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, it doesn't let anyone take it down.
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  Speaker 3: It's there, pretty, you know?
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  Speaker 4: That little house, pretty.
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  Speaker 1: So, I have many memories there. And then this.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a museum-like place. It's very special to me.
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  Speaker 4: What's so special about it?
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  Speaker 1: My mother kept all the records that came out of
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  Speaker 1: me at the time. So I have a room that
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  Speaker 1: has so many albums. If you look at the albums,
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  Speaker 1: it's all from the newspaper. Record, magazine, cover of a magazine.
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  Speaker 1: Everything speaking well, speaking badly. There's tape, tape, another day
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  Speaker 1: I took a drawer full of VHS, you don't even
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  Speaker 1: know what it is, but we passed the VHS and
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  Speaker 1: I started to digitize it to see if I could
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  Speaker 1: save a little, because my mother had everything saved and
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  Speaker 1: everything I get as a fan goes.
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  Speaker 2: To this little room.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: So it became a memory of mine.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: So there I have a lot of fan stuff, at
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: the time it was fashionable to deliver kilometer cards.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: Quanto maior, mais amor.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Quanto maior, mais amor. Então chegavam cartas dentro de caixas
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: de papelão, assim, em casa, mas gigantescas.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: Cara, isso era maluco, porque era escrito por mão mesmo.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: Na mão.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Na mão. Eu sou relíquia, eu já vi essas cartas.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Cara, eu tenho muitas.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: O cara chegava assim e me mostrava, olha isso aqui.
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: Man, I think it's the ground.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: That's it, that's it.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Then I would go there and stop to read. Man,
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: he's writing, I love you, I love you, I love you,
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: I love you, I love you.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Of course, imagine, we didn't have cell phones, we didn't
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: have internet, we didn't have anything, we wrote, right? Today,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: people don't even.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: Know how to write.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: They don't know. No, if you say, man, write a
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: sheet for your idol, don't do it.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: There's not even a line. Let me type, I'll send
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: a zap here.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: I love you, just.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: I'll send a DM. Very crazy, that.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Adriane, how was it in your.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Head, so young, things happening already heavy, you losing your
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: young brother, And even so, following. Yes, following.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: I had to follow.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: But there was no moment that you weakened? I think
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: I never.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Thought about stopping. Never, never. Look, so many things have
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: already happened. I think I've had so many reasons to rethink,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: to give up. But I never thought about stopping. I
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: never let go of my hand. I always believed in myself.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: This is a very crazy thing, because I don't know
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: if it has to do with self-esteem, but my mother
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: helped me to like my nose when I was little. So,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I remember that I went to school and if I
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: was mocked in the pre, right when I was little,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: if someone mocked my nose, my way, I would go
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: home complaining, at home it was worse, because at home
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: the drone flew, the drone already flew at will there
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: at home. So, like this, my mother let go, I
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: didn't even want to know. And then she said, you
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: have to know how to defend yourself, you have this nose,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: you are this person, you are... So, since I was little,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I've been learning how to deal with this thing of
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: school bullying, which was not bullying that I used to
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: talk about, but I already went through it. And I
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: never let go of my hand. So, I swear, I
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: like what I do so much. I do it with
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: so much love, with.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: So much pleasure.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I come here happy. It always seems like it's the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: first time. I'm going to work, I'm going to the farm,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: it seems like I'm debuting today. I swear, I'm going
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: to do a tour, it all seems like.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: It's starting today. And you know something that can confirm this?
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Because once we were recording the Carona Pode Pá, Mítico.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think she even knows. I don't think she
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: even knows.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: It's a project of ours that we recorded inside a car,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: and when you're going to do a recording inside a car, talking,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: it's not you who drives, right, people? There's a car
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: choking the other car. And we were being whistled and
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: then we were inside the car and then I saw
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: you from the outside, like, recording.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Look, how cool!
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Damn, equipment, they're recording, I don't know what. And then
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: I just went to see. I said, wow, man, it
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: was Adriana and Galisteu who recorded us. You posted a
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: story all excited with equipment, recordings. And you didn't even
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: know who it was, you could only see your head
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: out of the car, like, recording.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Man, I'm one of those.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: We were happy that it wasn't what she said about us.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: She liked it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: She saw the equipment and said, man, there's some recording
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: going on.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Man, I got in here today.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: That's why I talked about this environment you're in, this house.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I vibrated in this place. I felt like having my
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: podcast here. I felt like being here. I like it,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's part of my life since my whole life.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine myself doing something else. Without communicating. I
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: went there to be a teacher to please my mother.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I had to give 250 hours of class to get
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the diploma.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Class of what?
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: First to fourth grade, so it was general. Think about
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: a person who doesn't have talent for that. I didn't even.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Know where to start.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Did you take classes?
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Pedagogy is hard.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: You have to have a lot of talent.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: It takes a long time to conquer the little girl.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: No, in state school, I was in the fourth grade,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: there was a guy from 16th grade.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: You talk to them and they say, for God's sake,
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: light the cigarette and she leaves.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: So it was at that level that I said, this
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: is not going to work.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: But I was curious because you were telling about your
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: beginning there.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I was curious when you.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: Finished the band there that you joined to sing the
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: songs there that.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Silvio Santos. Xpita. After that, where did you go?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: He created another group called Meia Soquete. And then I
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: went until I was 17 years old.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: You heard it right? No, you're kidding.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: I don't want to know why this name. Meia Soquete.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: You can come here, Meia Soquete.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Can you imagine?
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Meia Soquete in underwear, boxers!
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Catch it!
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Catch it!
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Catch Faustão with me on the show, talking about Meia Soquete.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Faustão had a show called Perdidos na.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Noite, at Teatro Zácaro, where he made fun of everyone.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Everyone said that Faustão was an asshole. People said that
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Faustão was an absurd. I sang with Meia Soquete almost
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: every Saturday. Because there were four girls. What did you sing?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: From 14 to 16 years old. And we sang songs
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: from the 60s. Because at the time, there was that
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: thing of the golden years, the soap opera bursting into
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the globe, Malu Mader arriving with the golden years. Silvio said,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: let's do something from the 60s. What were the golden years?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: These 60s, yes.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: This woman who used.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: A skirt that was a little round, a sock that
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: was a little bent.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: So the aesthetics were high.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: The aesthetics were high because of a soap opera. Something
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: like Selly Campello, Stupid Cupido. I don't know if I'm
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: saying things to you. No, I got it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Because we've heard these names a lot in Silvio Santos.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: And he came up with this idea.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: He said, let's get this going, let's create a group.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: And since I was already there, I had already done Xpita,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I was already younger. You were already from the house, right?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Then he said, let's meet three more girls. Then we
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: did the test again, we found three more girls, and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: then I went to the Chacrinha, and I went there
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: yes we traveled Brazil doing shows there the thing that
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: grew a little more.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: It was just the beach you were already very comfortable
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I imagine but which of these programs you were most
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: nervous about being.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Chacrinha because Chacrinha was a success it was the ball
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: of the time Being at Chacrinha, it was just like that,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: very renowned people, people who were starting now, but already
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: starting with the record companies very pumping them, playing on
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the radio. And Chacrinha, to play there, either you were
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: invited or you had to pay a fee. The fee was,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: you had to do a show with him in a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: place called Asa Branca, which he used to do from
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: time to time, which was a kind of forró place.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: So we had to sing like three weekends at Asa
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Branca to sing once at Chacrinha. Do you know how
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it was?
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I understand. Help the old man, the old man will
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: help you.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Do you know how it was? It was like that.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And we sang in this white dress right away. So
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: we were all the time in this chacrinha here. For
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: us it was super important.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: But we understood the size, the size of the fame
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: of the program. How many points was the chacrinha's program
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: at that time? And how was the repercussion after a
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: program like that?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to tell you exactly how the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: ibope worked. But today, looking at the reality of today,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I would say that at the time the chacrinha was
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a guy of 20 points.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: It was the end of the week, it was the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Brazilian club, let's see the Chacrinha. Saturday, he had the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Chacrinha casino, he threw the cod in the people. It
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: was that and there was what? The Globo de Ouro
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and Silvio Santos, you know? So, the TV was very
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: different from what it is today. And the information too,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the songs too. So, being at Chacrinha was very top,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it was what everyone wanted. So you were living a dream.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I was already there, but the money didn't come in there, right?
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Since when did TV give money to someone? You go there,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: you sing, you promote your business. It's like a magazine cover.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: You go there, you take the picture.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: A kiss, thank you very much. But people at that
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: time thought that you were a singer. I remember that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: at the end.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Of the month you could buy a pair of jeans.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do with it. It was
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: a pair of pants, but I could have bought it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't more than that. And then I said, okay,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: but an hour will come. I started with the music,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: but I knew that my role wasn't music. I wasn't there.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I was going to sing, but I wanted to sing
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to be the presenter of that show
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that I was going to sing. Got it.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Got it?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: So, every show I was going to, I would get
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the phone number of a director, of a producer, you know?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: It gave me a way to get closer to that environment. So,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I was singing, but I didn't want to be singing there.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: That's why I didn't continue with my career as a singer.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: But you also didn't stop. There are four LPs that
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I have, okay?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: It's not little. There are four.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, when do you start doing... do things that you
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: say ok now I'm in my place it's soon after.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: No I had let me think here there was a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: program called I start in let me remember to let
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: me go back.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: To work first program of the 8 9 years old point.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: G was my first program on television sex no It
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: was a very alternative program. My director was Paulo Lima,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: the editor of Trippi. It was a very cool program.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I interviewed very different people. I interviewed Marília Gabriela and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Henri Sobel, who at the time was a super famous rabbi.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Damn, do these crossings like that.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do some crossings that had nothing to do with
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: each other.
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: That's cool as hell.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I rented a truck and put Pedro de Lara. on
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: top of the truck, and we were walking around Sao Paulo,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and we were talking, it was a very crazy thing,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: my show, this Ponto G, it was very crazy. But
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Ponto G comes after the radio. I have a radio show,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: which was Torpedo da Pan, which I did with Luciano
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Huck every Sunday.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Man, how was this show?
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: From 6 to 10 at night, live, and we told
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: crazy stories of betrayal, of dating, it was Torpedo, Torpedo
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: was like a.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: SMS, right?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Elegant, yeah, that's it. And then people would call and say, like,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: a betrayal, I'm here, I'm going out with the father
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of my best friend. And I don't know how to
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: tell her. I don't know if I tell her or not.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It was this kind of story.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: It was so crazy.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: But it was so crazy that there.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Were days that we had to ask for pizza to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: stay there. Because the guys would come to the door
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to hit us. Emino, Luciano. Like, the father would find
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: out who it was. That the daughter was doing something.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: And she would say.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: You're all crazy.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Because we gave names, right?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: You gave names?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: The person would call live, gave names. And we were
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: already thinking that the person was kidding. No, there were
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: people who were telling the truth. And there were people
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: who were trolling.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: But yes. There were some that were true. Some were true.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: He was talking about me.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: He was talking about me. The guy was on the road,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: sometimes listening, and he said, I'm going to stop there.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to punch these guys there.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: And we had to go out several times.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: There was one that gave something like that.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Oops!
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: We had to go out of the police sometimes. Because
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the woman found out that it was the husband who
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: was cheating, who went there and wanted.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: To fight with us. We said, we have no guilt,
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: we are.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Just passing the story forward here.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: And they sometimes asked for advice. Exactly. It was a
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: kind of love advice.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: It was very funny.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Ah, how cool.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And the point G came out of there. From this show.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Then you went to TV.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: The first television I worked on was very little time.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: It was at CNT. And it became Gazeta. CNT-Gazeta. It
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: was a junction of the two. And then I stayed
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: six months.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: How was the premiere? Finally, as a presenter.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Finally, I started to realize that it was more difficult
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: than I imagined.
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: Like, why did you realize? Because sometimes people just look here, right?
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: For example, she's here recording, but don't think it took
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: seven hours to record a thing like that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: It wasn't a thing, it wasn't the time. It was
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the difficulty of appearing well, of knowing how to interview,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: of knowing how to communicate, of attracting an audience that
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: we wanted. So the program lasted six months. And then,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: in those six months, MTV called me.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Ah, the quiz.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It was on MTV that I learned the difference between
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: appearing on television and working on television as a presenter.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: But was it some person, some director, some director who
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: gave you a touch? Jorge Espírito Santo.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Who is now at Globo, who is there at Fantástico,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: who directed Doc do Belo. He is a fucking face
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that I love. He is very cool, a great friend.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: He was my boss.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: What did he tell you? And he said, come here,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: because here you are in an emissary now that you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: can participate. So you will participate in the production, in
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the creation, you can give a pitch. So MTV, at
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: my time, it was a great school. You thought of
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a picture and you could put it in the air.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: If it worked, bingo, if it didn't, all right, no
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: one would charge you for that, because they didn't live
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: because of Ibope. It was an emissary that brought a
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: lot of young people to work and put everything together.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: To the air.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So everything was going to the air, your idea, my idea.
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: Like the internet.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: It was a very, very democratic thing, very cool. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I stayed four years at MTV.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: Wow, so working at MTV at that time must have
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: been a dream. It was too much. Like, trumpeting a
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: lot of people, it must have been a core of
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: very cool meetings there. It was amazing.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: There I grew up as a professional, there I met
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that I still carry with me
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: in my life, including Jorge, Astrid, Fontenelle. So many cool
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: people from there, you know? And I was one of
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the first to put merchandising on air, which is something
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: they didn't accept.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: How was that?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: They didn't like this merch thing. They didn't like it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Because it was complicated to put it in the show.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: To interrupt the show. They wanted to put it more
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: at the break time. But within a show, they didn't
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like it very much. And then we created a painting
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: that was a raincoat that entered the stage, which had
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a karaoke. And then the person had to sing under
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the rain, water falling. And then there was a joke,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I said, let's sell this picture, let's sell this picture,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: let's make a joke. And I was one of the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: first to put a brand inside a show on MTV.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: And then it worked. And then they liked it, right?
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: You may not like it until you don't have it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: After you understand what the merchandise is, you start to
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: You say, oops.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: After 120 days, it falls.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Then you say, oh, this business is nice. Let's create more.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Let's do more. Let's think a little more.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Then it was going super well. And then I was
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: invited to go to RedeTV.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: That was the super pop.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: That was the super pop, which is very different from
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: this super pop of today. At the time it was
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: a super pop like this, I had a Brazilian flag
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: behind me, I did the program here in Vila Leopoldina,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: very close to you, we didn't have a television, we
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: had a studio. And we did it there. And at
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the time the contractors of the TV network were me,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Fernanda Lima, Marília Gabriela and Otávio Mesquita.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Wow!
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: It was just the four of us.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: We opened the TV network.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't a TV network, it was called TV Omega.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: And it was in the same place, in Osasco?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: No, it was here.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: In this studio here.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: The dressing room was a trailer. There wasn't even a
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: dressing room, it was a trailer.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: But what caught your attention.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: When you left MTV?
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Because MTV was also growing. It was, but MTV had
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: a size.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: There was no way to grow any more in there.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I had already hit the ceiling there. I had nowhere
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: else to go. I realized I could make more money,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: because I was happy there, but I had a salary
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: within the standard of the crowd. So I thought I
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: could take a different flight, because at that time I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: was looking at Hebe, I was looking at the women
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: that were already happening on television, and I said, I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: have to go to these big TVs. But MTV stayed
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: with me for a year, I stayed a year on
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: MTV and a year on MTV, doing both things. look
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: how crazy my last year of MTV I was in
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: both places.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: But they left they left I was in both.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Places so I did it with the youngest people in
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: MTV and I did it with a more public.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's what you lived, it's unreal, so look how
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: crazy in two broadcasts imagine.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Today I forget the internet sometimes can't do it but
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: on TV bro so it was there I.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Was Omega, was it the beginning of RedeTV?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: It was the beginning, then already at the beginning, everything.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Was starting, but it was there, the thing was already
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: much bigger, my salary was already much bigger. Then MTV,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: last year, I cried a lot to leave MTV, because
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: there was my place, there was my crowd, my group,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: and there was a symbol that pleased me, which was
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: a quality control that MTV gave you, you know? You're
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: in that place, you had something kind of controlled, people
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: didn't speak badly of MTV, it was a very alternate place,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: it was a very cool place, so... It was cool, MTV.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: When I left, then I fell.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I understood. When I left MTV, I lost this symbol there,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: then I was thrown in the lion's den, and then
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I took a beating from everything that was.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Next to me, you know? It stopped being the legal zone,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: it left the legal zone, right? It stopped being the
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: school zone.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Then you're ready, then I became pop, commercial, then now,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: so let's beat it, then I got beaten, then I
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: got beaten, I got beaten, I got beaten, a little
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: while there.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: What is this? This is a... It's almost a commercial pattern, Mítico,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: to get it and say, no... Is she the ball
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: of the time now? So you get a cover of
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: a magazine and you go out in the newspaper and imagine,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: like today, it's already boring, hate. Pages of gossip, etc.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: But I think at that time, man, it was something
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: much more physical. Imagine, you get a cover of a
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: magazine talking bad about your life.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Wow!
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: What is this?
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: What is this?
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And then for you to have the chance again to
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: be there talking well, you had to ask for the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: right to answer. It took a long time, people had
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: already forgotten. The one that sold the most was the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: one that spoke badly, the one that spoke well afterwards.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: You had even won.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: A third?
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: It didn't sell anything, no one read.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: It was confusing, the business. It was very different.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: What a situation.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: You're, I don't know, on a lighthouse and you see
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: a bank there with you on the cape.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I don't forget.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: A cape was like this. The worst cape, one of
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: the worst. One was the poor, rich girl.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Lie.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: It was the cape's call.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: What is this?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: It's a mess, right? For you to make a magazine cover,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: it takes a lot of work. You leave your house,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: you don't earn anything. You carry a team that works
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: with you. They have to make you up, comb you,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: get you dressed. You go into the studio at 10 a.m.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and leave at 6 p.m. You deliver a work to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the person, the person takes your work and says bad
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: things about you. And you don't earn anything with that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: So this cover of yours was a cover that you
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: went there, right?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: No, I went to photograph, I gave my best there.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was like that!
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I said, but it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Wasn't for that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: And now?
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Now I'm reading there, just talking badly. Then I went,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I worked, I worked, I worked, I worked hours, I worked,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I earned zero. And then.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I didn't know it was like that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's a horrible balance.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I thought you just took your photo and.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: No, you go and photograph the person. You go there,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: you stay the whole day doing the cover.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Wow, so it's even more disappointment.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of disappointment, it makes me angry. I
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: remember I was angry. I said, how do I deal
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: with this? So I also learned to deal with anger,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: you know? To deal with.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: But there was no way to talk to the arrombadinhos before.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm a cape. But then, but there's no.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: So, okay, of course.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: There's a face like this, look. But you'll see.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: But when it comes out... There was also another.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: One that was called like this.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: It was a cape that was right in my face, saying,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I can do everything. I remember it was a chaos,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: because it's an antipathy.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: It's like you said, right?
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: In quotes, I can do everything.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Look at the picture, it's so beautiful.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: So, with hatred for this cover, I said, guys, I've
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: never been this woman, I've never been this way. And
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: this phrase of mine is a phrase that I say
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to people, if I don't hurt anyone, if I don't
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: disturb anyone's life, you and I can do everything, we
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: can do everything. Go after yours. But it was in
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: this context. Then you take the I can do it all,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: put it on the cover, how do you sell it?
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: People get angry at you. What is this? What is
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: this woman talking about? Wow, I went through a lot.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: At that time, people sometimes just passed in front of
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: the banks and only.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Saw the cover, only the title. They already took that rancor,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: installed that rancor. You can't prove otherwise.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: It was difficult.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: That's why I think that the hate today, no matter
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: how much he messes with you, you take your phone,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: you open the camera and talk. You have the same
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: power of hate. You have the same size of hate.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: And that's it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: At that time, no. You were in the hands of people.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: And how was your head at that moment? I learned
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: hard pains.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Hard pains.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: More than my mother, right?
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Because my mother doesn't like to talk bad about a child, right?
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: And suffers, right?
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I still managed. My mother was crazy. My mother suffers.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Of course she suffers. My mother doesn't manage it right.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And then I said, mom, calm down, I held my
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: wave even because of her, because she was so uncomfortable,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: because she was the one I cut and kept there.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: So she read, right?
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: The worst headlines.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so she read and said, but you're not going
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to do anything, there's no way to hire a lawyer.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And I said, mom, I'm learning, right? Seeing that it's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: not worth fighting with the press, because on open TV
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: we are six. You're going to fight with one, it's five, right?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: And one, in the end, they defend themselves.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: And I think what happens is like this, if Adriane
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: was there, came out speaking badly, what guarantees that she
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: won't do this here?
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: So, discard it.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I never fought.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Then I thought, it's so hard to make money, I'm
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: going to spend money with the lawyer to fight. I'm
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: going to buy my clothes, I want more, I want
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: to buy my shoes. Then I started, I never processed anyone.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I don't have that story to tell. Not even the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: guy who spoke very badly of me in the magazine.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: But there were stories that you let go, that became
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: truths that were not, that you said, damn, it's a lie.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: No, at that time, imagine, when I was blown.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Up, I'll tell you when it happened, when Brazil understood me. Unfortunately,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: it was after Ayrton's death.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I got.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Really known, big time. Because until then I had this job,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I was known in my environment, I was there on
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: my tour, but I got big time after his death.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And it's very crazy, because people were behind me and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: said barbarities at that time. And barbarities without mercy, barbarities.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: And I said, guys, if I give it to all
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: these men who are saying that I give, I don't
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: even feel like peeing. So, this was something that I
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: left there. It was one boyfriend after the other. And
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't have that bunch of boyfriends. But I dated
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the whole of Brazil, you know?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: So, this was.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Something that irritated me.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: It was to ruin your reputation, right?
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Of course, it was to.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Make a mess. So, I said, guys, for the love
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: of God. It was one after the other.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Pregnancy, I had five.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: There's a cover of the magazine, Galisteu Grave, and I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: was just chubby. I wasn't pregnant, I was just.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Or I was out of position, I don't know. And
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: the guys, pow! So, at that time it was hard.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Imagine a cover of a magazine saying you were pregnant.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: It's not true. I wasn't even with the guy.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you're starting to meet someone, and the movie was
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: already on air. You were already dating, you hadn't even
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: met the person. You were already there. Dating was already
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: wrong on air.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: So it was hard.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: For me, it was hard.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: You asked what I left there. I left it there,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: but it bothered me. Because, in fact, I was looking
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: for someone cool, but this cool person didn't come, right?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: When you start reading all this, you say, well, I'm
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: not even going to get there.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: It's true, you start to block things.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: This was a bad thing, it was a bad thing
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: about the exhibition, but I also didn't process anyone. I said, okay,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I'm going to work. My answer was always at work.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: You touched on a very crazy point, because you talked
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: about Ayrton and such, and.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: It's crazy to be this big in the middle of
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: one of your biggest pains. But I don't want to
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: talk about that now. I wanted to know how you
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: met him, because he's such a great idol. He surpasses generations.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: I was born after Ayrton's death.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: What year were you born?
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: 1996.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: No, right after. Two years later. But my mom and
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: dad made the point of saying, there was a man.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Who drove this car.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Who raised a Brazilian flag here every Sunday. I got goosebumps.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: So, like, very crazy. So, it's something that, like, damn,
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I'm going to have to tell my son who this
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: guy was. I got goosebumps. But I wanted to know
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: how it was for you to meet him, how he was,
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: for us to know a little more about him. Because
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: what we know about him is very.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Of other people, right?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: He knows a lot about what he did on the court.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: On the court, he was portrayed in many ways. And
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: he's always brilliant, because he's a world champion, he knew
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: how to do it like no one else. The guy
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: was good, but good, but good, but obsessed.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: But in his intimacy, he said, like, I'm fucked.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: No, he wasn't that guy.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: I really wanted that. If I were Arton Senna, I
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: would come in front of the mirror and say, the
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: father is embarrased.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: No, he was the opposite. He was the most... He
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: was a super, super humble guy. He was a guy
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: with a much bigger heart than people imagine. That's why
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I say it's so cool to be able to tell
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Ayrton as a man. Because he, as a man, he
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: was as heroic as on the tracks. But he was quiet.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: And that, many times, was misunderstood. Because he was shy.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: He was discreet. Why? How? At that time? What was
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the news? It was the paparazzi who would go there
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: and say bad things about you. There was no one
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: doing good media, right? So it was very difficult. His
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: life was already very restricted. An athlete like him, with
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: high performance. So he didn't go out at night, he
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: didn't drink, he didn't smoke, he woke up super early,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: he trained a lot, he was super Caxias.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: Every week in a country.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: He knew the whole world, the autodrome and the hotel.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: But he didn't know, he didn't have a life like
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: people imagined. And he could have, because he had power, glamour,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: size for all this. But his life was very small, discreet,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: simple and focused on work.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: But he was happy.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: He was happy, but he could have been more. So,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: this is something that he left as a teaching for me.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Ele não realizou os três sonhos mais importantes of his
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: life that he lived talking about, which was to go
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: to Disney, and he.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Died without going.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: He didn't go.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: He had a son and ran in the Ferrari. He
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: didn't realize any of the three. He ran in the Ferrari, okay,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: it depended a lot on other things, but going to Disney.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: It was possible, it was possible. He had a son.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: He left me a sense of urgency, you know? I'm
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: a woman who makes dreams come true, thanks to what happened.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I don't agree with a person not to make their
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: dreams come true, even if they have to take a
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: bigger step than the leg. Make it come true, because
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: tomorrow you may not be here anymore. Don't leave it
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: for later. The guy died doing what he knew best
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to do, living a very small life, close to the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: life he could have lived. He was a guy who
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: had fun with his best friends, but very discreet, shy.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: A shy life. E muito focado no trabalho. Muito focado
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: no trabalho.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Na época você falava pra ele.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Lógico, eu tinha 19. Por isso, eu cheguei pra dar
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: uma entortada. Eu dei uma entortada. Eu cheguei dando uma
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: entortada no cara.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Dei uma acelerada na vida.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Eu deixei falando pra ele, falando, não corta mais o cabelo,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: deixa comprido. Don't shave all your beard, let it grow,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: leave the beard to do.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Do what you want to do.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I started getting there, giving that twist, you know?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: But where did you meet him? I went to hold.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: The rain guard, you know?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Those girls who hold sunscreens, actually, it's not a rain guard,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: it's a sunscreens for the pilot. But I went to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: do this job role, as a model, I had no intention,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I had no intention of meeting him. I didn't know
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: who he was, of course, as a Brazilian he was famous,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: but he didn't follow F1, he didn't have the right
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: idea of size. My grandmother was a big fan of him,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: a big fan of him and Palmeirense, he helped me
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: to be Palmeirense.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Your grandmother?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: My grandmother, my grandmother.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: If your grandmother already likes the guy.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: He's already a step ahead.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: So my grandmother knew everything about F1 and everything about Palmeiras.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: So I became a Palmeirense, and when I told her
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: that I knew him, she almost had a piece, right?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Because imagine, for my grandmother, that was something.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: She said, go up, daughter.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: No, she said, I want to see the black on
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: the white. I want to see the contract.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: I want to see the marriage.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: So I went there to work on Sunday, it's a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: very good story, I got there, I said, our contract
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: was the girls from Shell, there were about 10, 12 girls,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: we had to stay during the training, then during the race,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and after the race was over, if Ayrton won, we
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: had to go to a party, which was in a
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: place called Lame Light. But it was all with the
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: same cachet, right? So I cheered for him not to win.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I said, no, stop, let's stop here, because I didn't
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: want to go at night. I wouldn't win anything more.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: With that, you know?
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: And he won. He won. It was destiny.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: It was destiny. But think about the girls cheering for
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: the opposite. Let's stop here.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: To end the deal, right, Mítica? To end the deal.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: You're not in the mood to do this other tour.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And then it happened. But during that time, I met
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: him there, holding the umbrella. And he was very shy.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: But who got to who? Who got to who?
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: It wasn't him, not even me. He sent a friend.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Even my friend's wife is here with me.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: To prove it.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: Gordinho, Gordinho.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: A Gordinho arrived.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: He said, go there, Gordinho.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: A Gordinho arrived. A guy came and said, listen, how
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: are you? Come talk to me. I said, no, how
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: are you? He said, Ayrton is asking for your phone.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I looked at Gordinho and said, you won't take it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: You want my phone, Gordinho?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: You're messing with me.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Gordinho went away.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I said, imagine, imagine. It didn't even pass through my head,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: this thing. Soon I'll see Gordinho with you. It got worse.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Then I started to think that the phone was for
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: this gentleman. Then I said, no, but then the gentleman
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: came with a slightly different posture. Then I said, opa,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: will it be? I will give. When he came with
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the gentleman, I said, I will give. Then it was
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: like that, you know, little by little. But since he won,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: when I arrive at this party, who receives me at
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: the door? He.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: The chubby?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: The chubby.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: He said, opa. We're waiting for you. Then he's there.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Then I started to see that it was true, that
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: the chubby was his friend. He understood that everything was
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: going well. He said, no, I'm there, I'm there in
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the dressing room, go there. I said, I don't believe
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: that the chubby is his friend and that this is real.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Because I thought it was just a joke. Then I
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: went there, I was even a little bad dressed. I
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: wasn't even dressed. I was there just to do the
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: thing I had to do. Take a picture, stay a
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: little bit and I was going to send it.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: The daily of the day.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: That there, you know, very complete.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Then I said, opa, then I go there, he was
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: very shy, Ayrton, very shy, very boring, like that, in
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the dressing room, talking a little bit. And then, everything
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: is fine, everything is good, oh, congratulations on the race,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the most expansive, he was very quiet. Then he said,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: where do you work? I said, in Elite, I said,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: where was my agency, beauty. I went away, I went away,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I said, man, I met Ayrton, I called my grandmother,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I met Ayrton, my grandmother didn't believe it. The next
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: day I'm in the agency, who arrives at the agency?
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: Lie.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Ayrton.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: And then they told me, man, Ayrton is there at
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the door.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: He knew he was going.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: To lock us up. I said, what do you mean?
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: When I leave, he's there. He said, let's go for a.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Walk, let's talk. Let's talk. I said, let's go.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Man, he was delighted then, right? Man, what a madness.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: That was a madness, I don't know how to explain
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: it to you. You went from guard to guard, he said,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: for the love of God.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: God, Gordinho, pick up her phone, Gordinho. 19, I was
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: 19 years old.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: And Ayrton Senna, at that time, he was the star.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: He was already a world champion. The biggest star in.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Brazil, I think.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: And you went out with him, and then you said, ah... So,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: but then it took a while for me to give up,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: like that. I started with, I said, you can have
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the woman you want, stop with that. Let's be friends.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to lose the chance to be your friend.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: It's much better to be your friend than to take a.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Kick in the ass after a weekend with you.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: That's true. Because I thought that.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I said, man, imagine. My life was already difficult, you know?
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I was a person very, very focused on money. I
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: needed to help my family. My brother was already walking
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: on a bad path. I said, no, I can't give
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: up here. I already had a boyfriend at the time.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I said, imagine, this is not going to work.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Did he drive normal cars?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Normal?
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Did he speed up?
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: On July 9th, in the opposite hand. That's what I
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: wanted to know, right, Adriana?
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: You thought she wouldn't say anything?
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: She already saw it. What did he say?
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I want to know about the.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Craziness of Ayrton Senna. Like Velazco Furioso. God bless him.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I told him, I said, for God's sake, you're not.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: But at that time, it wasn't the 9th of July
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: of today. We're talking about 30 years ago. It was
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: already highly forbidden. It was already highly confusing, it was
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: already weird.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: It was forbidden to walk with the other hand.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: It was already weird, but it wasn't what it is today.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: There was no camera, there was no radar, there was
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: nothing like that. Once in a while they painted a
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: police officer, but then I.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Saw him and I said, go! Go, go, go! Go, go, go!
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Go with everything!
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: So, he drove little in São Paulo, but when he
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: drove Ave Maria, I told him, you're going to die
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: in a shit like that.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: He took risks. He took a lot of risks.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: On the boat, he accelerated. Everything he drove. The boat,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the pilot, everything was him. It must have.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Been the only madness of his life. That's what he did.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: The car. He did.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: He was crazy about the car.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: I go to the dentist, I'll accelerate.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: He rode a motorcycle. He had a moving motorcycle, but
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: he didn't ride a motorcycle here. He rode a motorcycle
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: in the farm. He had a track for the motorcycle.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: He was crazy about that motorcycle. He said, he's going
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to fall, he's going to burst. Because it was all
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: in the maximum. He was Aryan too, like me. This
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: sign has something of exaggeration. For the good and for
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the bad. And look, I'm not this mystical woman. Most
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of the Arians I know have something exaggerated.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: They fight too much, cry.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Too much, love too much, everything is too much.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Live too much.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Live too much. It's always like that, you know? It's
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: hard to be mid-term. Ariano is not very mid-term. He
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: was this exaggerated guy, you know?
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: But in this period it must have been very nice there,
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: you getting to know each other, living.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: And how was the media at that time too? How
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: was your career?
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Ah, I had this little world that I told you.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I was a model, I sang, I stopped singing, I
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: started modeling. I worked for a while in a store
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: as a saleswoman. And to help with the money, I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: just modeled, it didn't work.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Man, your life was to work.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: To work. I worked like a ox, you know? That
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: everyone says, this one works. And I learned, because as
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I did with pleasure, I never complain about working. There
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: are days that I'm dead, that I'm dragging myself, but
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I say, no, but I'm happy, but I'm going, I'm working.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Think of a person upset when there's no work, when
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: the schedule is not full, it's me. I fix it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: It's sad, right?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I need to be always with a full schedule. I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: like it. I like it. It's part of it. My
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: life has always been like that. It gives me a
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: feeling that I'm losing something, that I'm leaving something. So,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: for me, it's very normal. It's not a strange thing
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: for me to have a busy schedule. It's not a
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: strange thing. I feel happy. So, at that time, it
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: was already like that. But everything was focused on money
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: at that time. My business was money. It made a
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: lot of difference in my house. So, I had to deliver.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I had to hand it over. It wasn't for me,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: it was for my mom. But I had to hand
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: it over. I had to give her a better life,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: you know? And that was very clear in my head.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Galisteu, you, when you go to some places, I see
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: that people ask you a lot, Dariton. I wanted to
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: know if you get upset with that. From the people
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: who give an emphasis, sometimes even bigger, for that. And
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: it was this question, because later I want to come
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: with another. Do you get upset with that?
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: No.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I always carried this story like a shield. Not like
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: a burden. I think it's hard. It's hard, it's hard,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: but I was so happy, and I know I made
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: him so happy. This shy guy that I told, closed,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: he let go of me. I think I gave him
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: an irresponsibility of a girl, for a life of a
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: very responsible guy.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: Got it. That kick he needed, right?
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: You know, when it gets messy, and that relieves you.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: And as I was very simple, I had no idea
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: of his size. And I'll tell you, I don't think
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: he had any idea of his size.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he didn't.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: While people loved him. So, because he was so focused
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: on work, he knew he was big, that he was good.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: He was after his dream, which was to get the
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: FANJO brand, which was five times world champion. So he
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: was behind Fangio, not Schumacher at the time, Schumacher was
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: still behind him. He was a boy, right? He was
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: a boy, so he was looking at Fangio, he was
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: on another route. And he was going to get it.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: And he was, of course he was. He was kind
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: of obsessed.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: He was kind of different. No, he was a lot.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: He was lying under the car with the mechanic. He
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: was a world champion, he didn't need that. He didn't
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: need to get there before everyone else. I used to
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: say that to him. That's why I'm saying that I
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: was that.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: You're Ayrton Senna, I don't know if you know.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: I said, what's the point, guys?
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: You don't need to go. Today you don't need to train.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Go train tomorrow, you only need to train twice.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: And what did he say? He said what?
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: He was pissed. Then he was pissed. He said, you
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: don't get in this area here, I'm going to do this,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: my boy. He was nervous. So, like, two days before
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the race, I didn't talk to anyone. Nobody. I didn't
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: open my mouth.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: I change.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: Did you see a version of Ayrton Senna that no
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: one knew, just you?
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Ah, I saw.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: I saw Ayrton bravo, huh? He liked to fight. Bravo, bravo, bravo.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: He also liked to troll. There were two things he
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: did that only he lived with. But they were dangerous pieces, right?
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: They made some jokes a little out of the curve.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you one. His best friend was
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: so crazy.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: The chubby one?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Berger. But the chubby one was.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Always with him, very crazy.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I liked the chubby one a lot.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: The chubby one was too much.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: And Berger was kind of crazy. Berger was a pilot,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you know his story, but he
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: was kind of crazy, and he was a Ferrari racer, right?
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: And they were very friends, and Berger was married to
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: a Portuguese, and that helped me because of the language, right?
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: So I had a friend that I could talk, look
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: how wonderful, on the circuit we traveled and there was
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: someone to speak Portuguese, besides Betise, who was Ayrton's assistant. So,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the joke was always between the two, but they were
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: heavy jokes, for example. Berger went to spend a season
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: with Ayrton here in Angra, a week on vacation. At
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the time of leaving, Ayrton asked him to buy a
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: fish of this size and asked him to put it
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: in Berger's suitcase without him noticing, so Berger wouldn't go
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: to Australia.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Ah, lie!
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: He would get thirsty there.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Imagine a fish inside the suitcase, inside the suitcase, a fish.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: A fish, a fish.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: And they didn't talk. Imagine when he opened the suitcase
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: in Australia... I.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Keep imagining the guy at the airport saying, this Berger
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: is crazy. When he was passing by, he said, he's with.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: A fish of 4 kilos.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: These guys all have private planes. It was a different life.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: It was a different life.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: It was a different life. It was a different life.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: You think Berger would call and say, son of a bitch?
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: No.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Everyone was quiet, no one said anything to anyone. One
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: day we were in Lake Como in Italy, taking the
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: helicopter flight, me, Ayrton, Berger, Ana and the pilot. And
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: we're here taking the flight, Berger looks back, there was
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: a little bag, Ayrton was wearing a 007 bag, with
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: his life inside. Ayrton took it and flew under the helicopter,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: with everything, documents, money, with everything.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: In Lake Como.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: And then the helicopter comes back. They managed to pick
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: up the suitcase. Because we were lifting it and it
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: threw it in the lake. Imagine, with a document. It
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: was at that level. It's not a responsible thing. They
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: had to go.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Down, the helicopter went down.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: There's money, there's documents.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: And he didn't get angry either? No, it's that kind
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: of thing.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Calm down, your time will come.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: So it was... It was only increasing the level of trolling.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: But it was at the level of trolling that you said, man.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: So when they used it, it was like... Oh, my God,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: anything will happen.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, go, go.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I was desperate. And with Rubinho too. With Rubinho Barriquera too.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Once Rubinho rented a car in Australia. I'm going to
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: tell you too. He rented a car.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, boy.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: So he took the car and.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Fucked their car.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: But, like, he left and....
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: The boys' car crashed.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: What is this?
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: What is this?
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: What is this? The guy will have to return this car.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: But the mess was at this level. It's not a
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: little mess, it's a mess. Level 1.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: Level 1. Level 1.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Level 1. Level 1. Level 1. Level 1. Level 1.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Level 1. Level 1.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Level 1.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Ferrado, how am I going to do it?
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Ask him one day if he comes here.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Man, it's wonderful.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: Rubinho already came, we need to know. We didn't know
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: about this.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: And you didn't troll each other?
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: No, he didn't play with me, no. Because I was
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: also a thick shell. I was born in Lapa, in
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Vila Romana.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: Respect me, Artosena.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Respect me there.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: You were already with the team, right? Corinthians and Palmeiras?
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I already had this bullshit.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I already had.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I said, don't come. Don't come. You stay there with
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: your gambas. Leave me here with the chiqueiro, which is
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: all right. Leave me at the chiqueiro.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: The question I wanted to ask you is a question
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: that everyone I talk to about Ayrton Senna, everyone remembers
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: what he was doing, unfortunately, when the accident happened. Wow,
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: I was hanging clothes for my mom, I was taking trash, wow,
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: I was going, that day I was going on a trip,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: always very specific stories.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: What were you doing?
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: I think you were in my dad's bag.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, you weren't born yet.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: No, I wasn't even born yet.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: I thought you were born in 1996.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: No, you weren't even in the bag yet. No, no,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: you weren't.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: I wasn't, I was just in the plans.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: My dad, you know what he was doing? He tells
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: you what he was doing?
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: My dad, I think he should, he doesn't remember now
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: his story.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: But he must remember what he was doing.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: For sure, if I talk to him, because he's not,
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: my dad is not from Formula 1.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: But he's a fan.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: But he says that when Ayrton Senna appeared, he had
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: to watch everything.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: He had to.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: It was a religion.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: Let's see the guy.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Whoever liked it or didn't watch it.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: This is crazy. And I wanted to know about you,
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: who lived these last times with him. What were you doing?
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: How was that day?
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: That day, I had talked to him on the phone
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: and in 5 minutes he was in the cockpit. I
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: was at his house in Algarve, waiting for him. Then
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: he told me, he was sick. I had never seen
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: him like that, because it was a chaotic weekend, right?
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: There was an accident, death, Rubinho was in the hospital,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: he was bad. Look, if there was a weekend that
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to happen, it was that one. You know,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: to risk the world this weekend. Because everything went wrong.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: It started to go wrong already on Friday. Saturday went
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: even worse, Sunday was chaos. So he was very weird,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: he wasn't normal. And he talked to me for ten minutes,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: this was also something that had never happened before. He
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: didn't talk to anyone. Imagine 10 minutes to enter the
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: cockpit and he didn't talk to anyone the day before.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I had never seen him talk. The day before, we
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: were used to it.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: He was silent. Even with you, silent?
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Total silence. I didn't hear a thing from him.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: The day before, no one talked.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: You were also... You have to understand this thing. You
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: will understand that no one talks. The guy didn't open
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: his mouth to say anything. And then, this day, 10
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: minutes before I call him, It's already a very weird thing.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: You're even scared.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: And he said, look, you fix things and you're going
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: to pick me up at the airport, because I'm already
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: in Malicuia. And from here I'm going straight home. So
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: you're going to pick me up. I said, okay. But
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I thought it was very strange. And then I still
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: told him, you can't run. You said that?
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: I said, you can't run.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: You're going to watch the rest of this continuation, watch
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: my doc, because I tell this story there.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow, right?
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about this doc.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, 4 o'clock in the morning.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: So, it's soon.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Soon.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: Soon.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: Soon.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: And there's something I want to say that I'm happy about.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: It's Mundo. It's not Brazil.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: I saw it because it came out there.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Maia Ayrton.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Ah, very cool, right?
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Very cool.
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: Because he's Mundo, right?
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: He's Mundo.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: He had to be Mundo. Mundo deserves to meet a guy.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Out of the tracks, which was as big as in
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the tracks.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: As enchanting as it is.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, because this guy was not told. And there is
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: not much to tell him, because I always say this,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: if your mother has to tell the story of your life,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: can she tell it all?
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: She can't, she wasn't in everything, there's no way. She's
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: going to tell a.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Child, she's going to tell you a little bit.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: She's going to tell you a little bit.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: She's going to tell you a little bit.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: There's no way.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: My mother doesn't tell mine either. No one's mother tells
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: the story of... Do you understand what I'm saying? So,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: this has to be told by those who lived that
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: it wasn't exactly this look. It's a different look. Because
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: he was like a boyfriend in one way. As a
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: friend of Gordinho.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: He was like that.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: If Gordinho makes a movie about him, he'll tell another Ayrton.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: True.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Do you understand? Because as friends, people are like that.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: As a girlfriend, they are like that. And I would
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: watch it too. If Gordinho made a documentary, I.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: Would watch it too.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: It would be great. It's about that. He deserves to
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: be told in all ways. It's not because he was
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: or he's not here anymore. It's because he really was
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: a special guy.
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: But did you always feel the need to show that
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: side of him?
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't. I told my book there at the
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: time and that's it. For me it was resolved, okay?
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Well resolved.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Oops, enough, it's over. This matter has already hurt me,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: it has already been the reason for so many things
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: that I didn't want to have lived, controversy. And I said,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: it's all right. But after the series that was released
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: this year, I started to feel that people were putting
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: pressure on me. This will went from the outside in,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: it didn't go from the inside out. It was a
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: huge wave for me to tell this story. And I
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: started to see that there was a group like you,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: who were not even born at the time, and who
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: didn't even know that I was dating him. I didn't
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: even know much about my story. I knew a piece
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: of my life, but I had forgotten. So I started
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: to pay attention and talking to Alê. Alê is my husband,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: he is my businessman too. And Alê, I need to
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: make a thank you to the part here, because he
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: as a man is a spectacle. Imagine a man... tá
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: do meu lado já não é fácil tá do meu
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: lado não é eu sei que eu não sou uma
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: pessoa fácil é carrega comigo um monte de coisas mas
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: imagina é ter que lidar com uma situação dessas.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Por uma maturidade do caramba.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Entendeu e ele desde que a gente começou I carry
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of things with me, but imagine having to
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: deal with a.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Situation like that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: It's a hell of a maturity. And since we started dating,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: he has always supported me in my story. I always
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: said this, how cool it is to have someone who
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: really likes you as a whole, because you are not
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: a piece. Along with your past comes good, bad, so
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: much together. When you have someone by your side, this
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: someone has to like everything. You can't buy half of you,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: you can't date only half of you. You can't tear
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: the photos of your ex because you're dating an actual one.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: This ex of yours helped you get here, she's part
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: of your story.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: She delivered you to the current one, there's no way.
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: She delivered you, I mean, what you learned from her ex.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: She took you there.
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: She took you there, right?
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: And that's it.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: So this story of dating half, of liking a little,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: of not liking a little of what you do, but
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: like you, that doesn't exist. Real love likes everything. Wow,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: how beautiful, that's true.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I don't like a piece.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: And I took a long time to understand that. As
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: much as I like and love him and talk to
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: him about everything about him, about his exes, about his stories,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: about the wrong and right things, he has liked me
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: like that. And then admiration is one of the pillars
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: of a relationship. So I'm sure he admires me as
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: much as he's sure I admire him. But he's my
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: businessman too. And he started talking to me about it.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's time for you to tell this story again.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: And I said, I don't think so.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Wow, he was the one who pulled that?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Then he said, look what's going on. Then I started
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: looking at everything that was happening. He said, I think
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: it's time for you to tell this story again. And
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I started to digest it, you know? To understand that really,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I think he was right. He messed with you emotionally?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: He messed with me a lot. I did a lot
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: of work to do this. Look, I'm a mega-professor, I'm
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: good at it, but in this case, apart, I did
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of work. Because I'm not a crybaby, I'm
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: not emotional, I'm... hard on the fall, life left me
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: like that, my life was not easy, so I'm a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: firm woman, suddenly I became a butter, I started to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: cry a lot, I started to live an experience all
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: over again, I started to remember, because I said, my God,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I had already forgotten, there was something that I had
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: completely forgotten, so I had to reread my book, you know,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: go back to the places, because the doc, I don't
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: tell this story, I tell mine, And I call in
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: the documentary people who are very important in Ayrton's life
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: and who never appeared. In no place, in no book,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: in no documentary, in no movie.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: It's just that sometimes people just want to give importance
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: to people who are mediatic, or famous, or that rival.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: No one will say, like, he had a super cool
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: friend who was just good people. No one has ever
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: said that.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Got it?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: So Gordinho is in my documentary.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Ah, that's awesome.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: So it's in my documentary, his personal trainer, Nuno Cobra,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: who made the guy. And he's old, Nuno, you know?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: And there's Ayrton's mentor's wife. Ayrton's mentor, who I actually
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: offer the documentary to, which is a great tribute to him,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: who is Dr. Antônio Carlos de Almeida Braga. Braga was
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: in love with sports. Then take a look at this guy.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: This guy is not here anymore, but he was responsible
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: for many important things that we have here today. For example,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: he was the first sponsor of tennis, of volleyball in Brazil.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: He brought the volleyball, he said, I will sponsor the volleyball.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: When all eyes only had football, right? So he was
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: one of the first to sponsor, to bring Formula 1.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: He is a very important guy for many pilots, including
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: for Emerson Fittipaldi, he is super important. Then he stuck
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: with Guga, he is a giant man. He was passionate
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: about sports and he was Ayrton's best friend. But he
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: was only 70 years old when I met Braga. He
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: was an old man. And he never stopped seeing a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: race in Loco.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: Never?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Wow, he traveled a lot! He was this guy who
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: was always with him. So when he didn't go, it
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: was because he was sick. Otherwise, he was there.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: So he knows Ayrton a lot.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: And he was kind of a mentor. He was the
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: best friend. I knew he was confident, best friend, but
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: he was kind of a professional mentor too. So he
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: was the guy who gave a direction. So, like, go
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: change the contract, go do it. It was always him together.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: And this guy was the one who extended his hand
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: to me. So I'm here telling this story to you,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: because when everything happens, the accident, all the tragedy, who
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: became an angel of the guard of my life was him.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: Because they ended up with you.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: And he really met me, because he didn't need to
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: have been this today, because he was a friend of Ayrton.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: He met me, I was together, he met me this
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: last year and a half of Ayrton's life. Okay, but
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: from then on he being my father... There's a huge distance.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: And he said to me, little girl, I'm doing it
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: for him. Because I loved him so much. So much
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to carry you with me. So he
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: helped me, but he helped me, he put me in
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: the lead again. It was him that I lived in
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: his house for a year. Because I didn't have anywhere
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: to go, I didn't have money, I didn't have work,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't have anything. So how do you do it?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: You have to have help. So who helped me? This man.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: So the story of this guy you will know better
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: in the documentary. and why I talk so much about him,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: why he was so important.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: And also if he did this with you, it was
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: not for nothing, right?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: But think, this man was never portrayed in any documentary,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: in any book by Ayrton.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: How can it be? It can't be.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: His press advisor, who is in my doc, was also
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: never documented.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: One of the most important people.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: So I brought close those who never appeared to tell
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: the stories. But there is one thing I want to
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: say here. Was it difficult to do all this....
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Imagine this movement with.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: HBO saying, it's this year, it has to be released now,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: it has to be ready now. And I say, my God,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: it can't be next year. No, it has to be
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: My God. The farm is on fire. Let me tell you,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: I'm with the farm there.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: How is it going to be?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Because I wanted to tell this story there. We lived
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: in Portugal.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Portugal, I had to be in Portugal telling this story.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I had to go home, I had to go there.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: And then, how do you do that? And we managed
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: to do it. Thanks to the brilliance of João Weiner,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: who was the director. It's a team that dedicated itself
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: for this to happen, but it wasn't easy. We had
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: to bring everyone together, each one living in one place,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: one in London, the other in some other place. How
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: does this happen? How do you bring these people together?
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I want to tell you something. I didn't participate in
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: any guest testimony. And I didn't brief any guests. Porque
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: eu acho que ou é um doc ou não é
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: um doc.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Então vai ter coisas ali puras.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Entendeu? Porque não dá. Então você conta um filme, você
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: faz diferente. Mas se você vai fazer um documentário, eu
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: entreguei a minha alma nesse documentário. E eu sofri muito
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: pra fazer.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: Pra ser fidedigno, né?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Sofri, porque nem tudo é gostoso.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: Né?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: É legal você contar só a parte boa. Eu tô
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: aqui contando um monte de coisa boa pra vocês. Mas
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: nem tudo é bom. So what makes me feel good
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: is this world that is deep inside me, that helped
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: me to be this woman. And we hide it, because
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: no one wants to tell their secrets. So when you
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: watch the documentary, if you didn't participate in the guests' testimonials,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: it was unprecedented for you.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: And there were guests who didn't live with me anymore.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: That we know that if I want to call, they
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: will attend me, we will talk, but they are not
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: part of my life anymore. Gordinho became my friend, but
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: the people who are there are not my friends. They
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: are people that I admire and that I don't see anymore,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: because they live in another country. I didn't know what
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: kind of story they could tell there. So, for you
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: to know, there are things that Luísa, Braga's wife, who
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: was the person who helped me the most in life,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: tells there that I didn't know.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: So you must have been surprised by this mix of emotions.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: What is she talking about?
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Because when they helped me, they protected me from many things.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: So they didn't tell me.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Wow, so many things you discovered this year.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: I was so shocked when I saw the cut, the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: first cut of 21 minutes. Twenty-one, right? I looked at
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: that and said, but what is she talking about? I
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: never knew that. So, Luisa, who was the most important
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: person in my life, Braga, she tells stories that she
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: lived next to me, but she told at the time
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: in a way for me, so much so that I'm
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: going to tell something in the doc in a way
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: and in fact he is a little different from what
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I tell.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: They protected you.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: So they didn't tell me that story, they told me
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: half of the mass, not the whole mass. So I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: discovered the whole mass watching the doc.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: My God. I almost fell.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Off the chair, I almost fell, I was so desperate,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I said, I can't believe it, my God, what else
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: does this woman say? I said, I saw 21 minutes here,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: what else is there for her to tell? Because I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: really didn't know about those stories. So it's very curious,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: because it's a very true documentary, very honest about people.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure that the whole people, there will be
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: a lot of people, it's not a few, who will
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: watch at 4 in the morning.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Go.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: Nobody will wait until tomorrow.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: Put your cell phone. To wake up.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: And I want to give a tip, watch both, because
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: they are 2 of 45.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: 2.45.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Watch it in the race, because this thing of watching
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: one and... Because they complete each other. They complete each other,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: you know? It starts in one way and ends in another,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: completely different.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: So it's... There are two episodes.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: There are two episodes of 45.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Are you happy?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: I'm nervous.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid, with my ass in my hand, I'm nervous,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: Because it's a different version, right?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Well, it's something that for me is a surprise. and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I walk down the street people say look I'm waiting
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: crazily every post I make you will read the comments
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: like that people are crazy to know this version and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I realized that much later now I realized the importance
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: of this story of mine too because it was very
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: important to me as a woman, as a human being.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: When that documentary came out, did you say, oh, there's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 6: something missing?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: So, I think, that's why I say, everything that came
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: out of him, it wasn't just this, everything that came
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: out of him, book, doc, film, I think it's important.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: And I think everything is worth it, because we have
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: to leave his life alive, he has to leave this
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: man alive for us, for all generations. He is so
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: important to the country. so important as a human being
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: and as an example that it is not fair that
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: he dies of truth he has to be alive in
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: some way so I think it is always valid to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: go back with stories and with this look that I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: said each one with a vision each one with a
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: look so this vision that I am this size is
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: a vision and mine vision is another vision is another
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: idea my story is my story my story with him
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: is very small near him I am this here near
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: his life right so I know my And I know
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: the size of my story, but it was so important
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: and it also deserves to be told. Because it was
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: his last year and a half of life. There's no
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: way to skip, there's no way to erase. How do
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: you erase a person's.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Year and a half of life? There's no way.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: And talking about communication issues, documentaries and movies, how do
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: you erase the climax of the thing? Which, unfortunately, is
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: the time that everyone, in quotes, waits for. Okay, I
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: want to know what happened in this last period and.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: There is no. So, it's something that's missing, do you understand?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: I think it was valid, I think it's beautiful, it's
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: well done, you can't argue that. It's sensational, look at
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: the money they spent. It's sensational, but it's missing a
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: little bit, right? So maybe it's not the idea to
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: tell life, that's why I say, when we're talking about
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: personal life, it's different from professional life. That's why I say,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: so not everyone can tell what I lived through. I'm
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: glad that Luisa is here, because Braga is not anymore,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: but Luisa is here. And she was on the side
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: all the time, because where Luisa was, there was Braga. So,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I'm glad she's here to tell, and I'm glad the
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: people who participated in my doc never told this Ayrton,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: because they're going to tell an Ayrton that people don't know.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: different from the pilot you think we're going to fall
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: in love.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: Even more I think you're going to be more in
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: love with.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: Him but because that's the proof, right, a guy who
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: was generous, right, he could even be the woman he wanted, right,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: he fell in love with a girl from there because
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: he didn't have a stick to hit a cat at
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: the age of 19, you know, with a super complicated life,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: it's difficult, right, and then he takes on this woman
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: for everyone in a way and I little girl, right?
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: Exciting with this story.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: In the doc, I was curious that you said there,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: in the doc, there will be this too, that you stayed,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: after this, you stayed a year at the house of.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: There is, there is this house that I lived in,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: telling how I go to restore my.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: Life, right?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, I was curious about that. And I also tell
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: things that I hid, I hid from 1990, Ayrton died
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: in 94, my brother died in 96, the year you
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: were born. My God. In these two years... que seguiram
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: eu escondi tanta coisa então ali eu não escondo mais nada.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Imagina que a mídia falando várias verdades.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Então esse é o momento que eu acho que é
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: muito legal também das pessoas saberem porque tira um pouco
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: uma coisa que ficou na dúvida sabe o que que
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: aconteceu o que que é eu tô contando.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: Você acha que isso vai te dar um alívio também
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: depois que isso tudo sair as pessoas entenderam algumas coisas
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 6: que eles não entenderam você vai I think so, you know?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's one thing. Although I don't have much
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: of that relationship. I'm not that woman to carry and
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: to have a... I don't have that inside me. I
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: swear I don't have. I don't have the guilt of anything.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Because I can't point out to a 19-year-old girl and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: point out anything to her.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: There's no room. At the height of my 52, to
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: say something about my past, if I did it differently,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: it's not fair to me. E também não carrego um
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: ranço dessas pessoas que não foram legais. Eu só carrego
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: quem foi legal comigo. Quem não foi, um abraço.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: Ficou, ficou pelo caminho.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Mas ficou lindo pelo caminho. E está tudo bem. Cheguei
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: onde eu cheguei e está tudo certo. E a gente
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: aprende na dor mesmo. Learn from these people challenging you,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: you know? It's very... It must be very boring... A
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: life just of applause, right? So, I learned a lot
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: from this fight.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: At four in the morning, then, huh?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Put it on the cell phone. My Ayrton. I hope.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: I also want to know your opinion. Can you send
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: me later?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 5: Send.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: Send, for sure. Are you sure?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Look at those little talks.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: No, no, this is.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to leave my phone here. I want a
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: WhatsApp here.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: I want.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: I want.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: I want.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: If you're passing by the house, say.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: Quero opinião. Quero saber.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: De verdade. Ficamos ansiosos para assistir isso.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: Fiquei muito ansioso, mas acho que o mais legal de falar, Adri,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: é que você passou por tudo isso. Imagina a barra
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: que foi. A gente vai conseguir saber mais amanhã. Mas
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: é ver que você... You didn't stop, you rebuilt yourself
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: and I think your professional rise comes after. It comes.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: You know, like, see everything you're doing, you just played, right?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: At the height of your 52 years, but you're presenting
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: one of the country's largest reality shows.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: I'm in love.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: Not just you, the whole of Brazil. Like, people sometimes
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: even play, get on the foot of the farm, but
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: everyone is watching, commenting on Twitter, having a lot of fun.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: It's too good, it's the soap opera of real life.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I tell everyone, do you know how you have to
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: watch reality? Brazilians are passionate about soap operas, right?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: We've always been.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Reality is much cooler than soap operas.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: Because the kiss of tongue is tongue. Because the blanket,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: when it's swinging, it's rolling. The betrayal rolled. And the
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: bullshit is also real. It can be... Inside the Riad.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Leaving there, everything will go back to Las Vegas. What
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. What happens in the farm,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: stays in the farm. Passed the gate, it's over.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: It's over.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: But while it's there, what's happening there is 100% honest.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: It's true.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: That's why I say that when the soap opera is real,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: it's cooler.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: It's cooler. You know?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Because the crime for condensed milk is wonderful.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: Because it's the house jokes.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: We say, why are you making jokes? But this is
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: the joke.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Who ate the last piece of cake that was here?
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Then it becomes a chaos here.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Who took my egg, brother.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: It's about that.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: But how did the first invitation to the farm come?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: It came well.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Do you know why it came well? Because this place
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: was a place for men. Nothing against it. I think
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: it was also the time for a woman to take
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: care of a place that was never feminine.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: You couldn't imagine a reality show presenter.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: A woman doing a reality show in confinement?
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: Never.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: The female voice wasn't there. Just like it wasn't on
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Sundays in Brazil. I'm not saying that men don't have
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: to be there, I'm just saying that we also have
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: to be there. I'm this woman who thinks everyone has
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: to be there. And I think it was time to
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: have a woman presenting a reality of this size in
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: the country. So I received this gift, I was so
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: happy because I watched it since the first edition. Was
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: it the 20th that you entered? No, we're on the 17th.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: In 2014?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I entered on the 14th. No, I joined in 2014, no,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: I joined in 2012. I'm in the fifth already. 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: Is this the fifth? I'm already in the fifth farm.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: I joined the farm in 2012. That's it, 2012, no,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: farm number 12.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: But do you go to your car... Like, when you're
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 4: going to the farm, inside the car, you're like, my God, today... Today, no,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: I'm already knowing before, right?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: It's like a doctor, you know? A doctor who has
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: the phone here, look. I don't have a moment of rest.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: I have my days off, but all the time I
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: have to be online. because I can... What happened on Saturday?
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Wasn't there an.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Expulsion from Martina? What happened to me?
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Run over there.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: I was at home, getting ready to go out to
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: have lunch with the family. Let's do this... I said,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not going. You go there, I'll meet you later.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: I'll have to do hair, makeup, put on the same clothes,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: do a bunch of that. I'll have to go to
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: the farm, because the farm is not a studio that turned.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: Into a farm.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: It's a real farm that turned into a studio. So,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: it's a farm and it's far. I take the dirt road.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: I leave here at 1h30. So, I'm going to leave
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: here and I'm going to take the road and I'm
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: going every day. And I like to drive, right? I
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: had a good teacher, right? I like to drive. So,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: I take the road, I go every day and I
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: come back at 1h30, 2h in the morning.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Every day. I understand.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: But, like, we don't want to go into details, but
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: you get very attached to.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Oops! With the characters, with the editing, you go back
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: home and think, my God. I didn't want to eliminate him.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Yesterday, I wanted to kill Wallace. He had the power
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: in his hand to save himself from Roça. It was
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: enough for him not to make any comment. He couldn't
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: stand the program. So I said to him, don't say anything.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Don't say anything. He said, people, stay calm. It's all right.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: He sat down. Who has a power in his hand,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: which is the power of Lampião, can't talk. This is
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: a classic, I always say, who has the power doesn't speak,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't make a sign. He sat on the farm with
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: a smile from here to here, knowing that he had
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: a power in his hand that would save him from there,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I had to cancel the power.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: He surrendered.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: So the guy surrendered and is on the farm, because
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: he couldn't stand it, he looked at his friends and said,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: it's all right, it's all right. And we have these images, like,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: out of the air, the director has these images of
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: him doing like this, calming the people, I said, pah!
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: One thing I want to know, this one we won't
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: ask because we know it interferes, there are a lot
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: of fans, it's voting, it's happening, so we have to
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: leave it the way it has to happen.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, the guys vote well, huh? You also vote? Ah,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I voted a lot already, I learned, from time to
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: time I go there hiding.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: I vote too.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: What I want to know is, because we commented.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: A lot on this here. When the doctors went to
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: save Deolane, what was that?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: What was that? In fact, what were several moments of
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: this farm. But you know what I think?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say here.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Jô Jô in the bottle, Negro do Borel expelled.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Did Negro do Borel get expelled? He was expelled, it
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: was ugly his thing.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: It was ugly his thing, but I'm going to tell
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: you one thing, I learned that there, expulsion and resignation
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: are also part of it, because confusion is part of it,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: if we close this door here now, at this And
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: stay three months here, without.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: Music, without books. Oh my God.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: Without music, without books. You'll see my worst version. You'll
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: see my worst version.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: A dragon will come out of us.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: A dragon.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: A dragon.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: I think two days I'm stuck here.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: I think the dragon will come out.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: Dude, it's worth two million reais in three months. You'll
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: earn that money. It's a business that is worth a
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: lot of money and it's not for nothing. So I
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: learned to respect the pawn. You have to respect who's there.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: It's very difficult to do. It's... Think of a difficult business.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: Emotionally, it must be a bad one.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: It's an absolutely psychological game. You can lose all the
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: tests of the farmer and you can win the farm.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Jojo was one of them, who lost all. She didn't
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: win any test. She won the farm.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: She won the farm.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: She won in the head, in charisma, in the way.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: So the farm, it has this power. She has the
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: power to mess with people, but if you have a
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: good head, you go to the end.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: What knocks you down is your head.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: That's how it was.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 6: Without this edition, who were the players that caught your attention?
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Rico caught my attention.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you why.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: He was crazy. He threw Danone in the face. He
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: dropped the coffee.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: He shouted.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: He was a good player. Then he apologized. We saw
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: that he was sorry. And then he died of laughter,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: so he had the imbalance, because we are not linear.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: The human being is crazy as hell, we don't show it.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: We don't show our peaks of madness. So, this Rico,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: he showed this humor that he had. Come here, caninana,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: sit here. He called a girl a caninana, a caninana snake,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: which was the most searched word on Google.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: Caninana?
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: Caninana, which is the kind of poisonous snake that exists.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: He called a girl a caninana out of nowhere. Come here, caninana,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: sit here. He called a girl a caninana all the time.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: And then, this guy, he had humor. So, he said,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: shut up, win. Adri, shut up, win. That way of him.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: He had humor and he had the peaks of madness. So,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: he was very angry, very upset and then very upset. So,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: he lived like that. This is true. Nobody is 100% bad.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Nobody is 100% happy, good. Nobody is like that. So,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: who comes in wanting to make a scene.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: How long does it last? I think it doesn't even
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: last two weeks. To tell you that it doesn't last.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: You don't hold a character for more than three weeks
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: at all. Because I'm there every day, I see the
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: difference between the characters. You start to see who wanted
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: to be better and started to distance. another one who
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: is sleepy and lazy is already sleeping for a long time,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: you know, he's not wanting to show anything to anyone anymore,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: so this is very crazy because you see the human
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: being reacting and when you watch it there, it seems
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: like you're in a laboratory, it's an experience, it's too much.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I hope the farm, I'm in love with the farm.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 6: What is the coolest part of presenting a reality show
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 6: and the hardest part?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: The best part is to be live. I told you
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: that I'm a live beast. I like the business live.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: I don't like it recorded. It's live, it's cool. The
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: best part is to be live with them, to be
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: in love with them. If I don't love the farm,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's hard for a person who doesn't like
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: to present a program like this. Because it requires a
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: much greater dedication than people imagine. I leave my house
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: at 4.30 pm every day. I don't see my son
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: during the farm. I don't see Ale. If they want
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: to see me, they need to see me there. ou
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: no meu dia de folga, porque quando eu saio pra trabalhar,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: o meu filho já foi. Quando eu chego, ele tá dormindo.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: Então eu não vejo.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: Você sai de casa quatro e volta.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Quatro e meia, o Vitor tá na escola.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: Quer ver a mamãe, Vitor?
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: Chego duas e meia da manhã, tá dormindo. Vai acordar
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: sete pra ir pra escola, eu não consigo acordar sete,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: seis e meia, sete horas da manhã, nunca.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: Tem nem como.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Então eu não vejo ninguém. Eu vou encontrar os caras
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: no final de semana. Então assim, eu tenho minha folga
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: na sexta e no sábado, eu não abro mão dela.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: I danced on Monday. I was on vacation, but it's
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: not anymore. I'm on live on Monday. So, you run
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: the risk of the guys still taking your vacation.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: They say, oh, come on, one more day, let's go.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: So, it's very crazy. So, it's a dedication that you
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: have to be happy to do. It's a plantonista. It's that.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: If you go there, damn, heavy, boy, you don't even
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: get there in the first month. Especially because it's.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Live, it's a reality show.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Now, the most difficult part, dealing with the fans. Because
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: I clearly understand that it's like a soccer team. So,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: when the judge picks against Palmeiras, he can be absolutely right.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to curse him. I'm going to be angry
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: with him. He's right to do that, but it's normal
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: for the fans to say.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: You like the team, you like the person at all costs. So,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: that's it.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: The guy is totally wrong and the fans are on
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: his side. Give to whoever gives and come fight with me. So,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: I looked at him and... Why did you smile more
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: to this guy and not to him? You're enjoying him more.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: You're inducing him.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: She paid more attention to the other, let the other
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: talk more.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: It's a mess.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: I just don't take it to the personal side, because
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: I clearly realize that tomorrow they're talking well of me.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: The same guy who's cursing me is talking well of
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: me because I smiled more to the guy he likes.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: I did something he liked and I'm cool. I did
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: something he didn't like and I'm a terrible presenter. But
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: this is a very crazy thing, which is the passion
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: of the team, of the crowd.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: You know what I noticed?
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 6: The Fazenda has some fans from the Fazenda reality show.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: But there is a pattern already in the Fazenda, like
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: this one will get the crowd, who will like it
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: will be.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: A certain number of fans, and.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 6: This one will win in general for his way. There
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: is already a public like that in the Fazenda that
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: you already know who is going to get along.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, because people don't like it, because it's not the
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: place to be a sanctuary. It's not a social assistance program.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: And that's what I like. It's not to give money
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: to those who need it the most. And deliver what
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: the proposal is.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: The proposal is this, brother.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: The proposal is this. It's not for those who need
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: it the most. Don't cry, pitanga, misery, because I'm indebted,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: because I'm I don't know what. This won't make you
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: win the game.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Nobody has a pen, right? It's not moving the pen.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: It's not that the place.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: Of this game.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Go make the cow. You'll have to go there to
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: make the cow. Go there to do it and you'll
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: understand this. So you have to know how to play.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: So it's very crazy. Because the farm is not good.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: And it's not for us good too. So it's not
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: this place to make friends. When I see them arguing
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: over words, I say, but they're all wrong.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: What word?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: It's the game. It's worth lying. It's worth everything in here.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: This is the place for you to do this. Lies
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: are also part of the game.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: You're a very good presenter.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: You can lie. Come here and pretend it's a video game.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: Come here and live an exclusive life of the farm.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: What does he have to do? What does he have
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: to do? He just has to go to the exclusive
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: camera there and play it open to the public.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: I'm going to do this.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: My role here is this one. I'm going to follow
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: this game. Because if he plays on the side of
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: the public, he plays right. Because the public expects these
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: things from him. The public is not waiting for you
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: to have the word, for you to do your benevolence,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: for you to be good.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: The champion of Fazenda 18 is here now. So, he's
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: writing it down. So, go to the public and play here,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: play straight. Who is the great.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: The judge is the public. The one who rules the
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: game is the public. To conquer the public, you have
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: to play with the public.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: And not with the players in there. But I think
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 6: this comes from reality shows, right?
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: The guys have.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: To be Samaritans in there, they have to be good,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: they have to suffer. Then when you get there, you
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: think that's your life and that guy is your best friend.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: You see people crying when a friend leaves?
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: The guy just met you. He's almost ringing the bell.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: He wants to ring the bell to go away with
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: his friend.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: It's already happened.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: In the last farm, I saw a girl ring the
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: bell Because her friend left, so she stopped competing for
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: the 2 million, which was her dream, because her friend,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: who she met 15 days ago, hit the nail on
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: the head. So, for you to see how it is
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: to disproportionate the business in there, that's why I say.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: It's a game of the head.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: If you don't get there, you take the game. The
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: problem is that you can't get there, you can understand
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: and distance yourself from it. And you can play the game,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: look at it like a board. Move the piece.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: It's a tactic. It's a tactic.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: It's a tactic. But when you get there, as we
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: are human and we have blood running here, the tactic
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: is there. We forget about the tactic. And when you
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: see it, you're in love. When you see it, you're
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: going to get married. When you see it, you're cheating.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: Say some nonsense live.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Say some crazy things.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: And gaffes and things live, have you.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: Done them in the farm? There are many. There are many.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: They turn everything.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: Now they're all turning into memes, right?
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: But there are many, right?
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: We release each one. It happens. Live show. That's why
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I like it live.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: That's why.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Because I hear you say, take your mistake, fix it,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: die of laughter. Yesterday, there was a samba, Dudu started
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: to sing a samba, I started to dance here, like
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Tio Zona imitating him. It came out, it looks like
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: I dance that way, right? Tio Zona imitating him.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: I said, what a joke!
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: There's a cut, man, like Tio Zona dancing samba. I
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: was just imitating Dudu.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: I see that it's good when there's a meme with you,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: you always accept it.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not even there, I replace the cyclope.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: I imitate myself there, put a cyclope on my forehead, there,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: let's go with everything, it's all right.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: When you see yourself, you say, if they don't call
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: me a cyclope.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: I'm a cyclope.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: I'm a cyclope, let's go with everything, it's all right,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: To be happy. I'm a cyclope, let's go, they're calling
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: me like that.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: This is very good, because we always have a vision that...
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: People from the TV, right, Mídia? The TV gives a
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: lot of that impression that the person is untouchable. I
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: think the media gives a lot of that impression. No,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: that the person is like that.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: But there are those, right?
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: There are those.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: It's not my case. It's not really.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Not everyone is in the same bag.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: It's not. But what you can see from you is
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: that you deliver, that you are not like that, man. Like,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: when you entered, I said, thank God.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: When it appeared, you know, like this.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: Ae caraca que lei estrutura legal vambora animada vai ser.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 6: Foda quando a gente sabe quando o papo vai ser
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: bom When we get it, we say it's going to
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 6: be good.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: It's so nice when it happens, right?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: We know when the conversation is going to be good,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 6: when the person walks out the door.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: I already look and do this, it's going to be good.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, how good.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: I'm already used to it too. But you already got
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: a problem, because I remember when I was just an
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: interviewer on the show, I was scared of monosyllabic.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Damn, this is going to kill us. And then, Adriano,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: how was your childhood? Super cool.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: Cool.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: He lives a good life. That's it.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: He's having a mini-infarction.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: You have to answer to give him time to ask
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: the next one.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you're in two here. To help him. Because
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: alone he's going.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 4: To make a sound.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: Sometimes he and I turn and do this. It's cool, right?
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: I'm in love with this movement. It's desperate.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: It's the worst interview there is.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: It's the guy who is monocular.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: Don't stop there.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: You're going to say yes.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: No, you're not.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Give it some development, it helps, right? Develop it a little,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: bring another subject, talk shit.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Do anything.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: I remember one time here in Pod, I asked a question,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: I think it took me about four minutes, I said,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: this person is not talking, I'm going to ask a
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: question of about four.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Minutes, I started to.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: Build the question. At the time I handed it over,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: he said, difficult.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: I swear, at that time I almost laughed inside.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: I said, wow, it took him a long time to ask,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: and I understand.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: It takes, go, I'll put another one here, because it's foda.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: And then it took a while, the person already did this.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't think about the next one. I was like,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: it's f * * * ed, it's f * *
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: * ed.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: It's difficult, it's f * * * ed.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: Then I sent it to the person, the person was like, complicated.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: Then he was.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: Like, what are you doing here? Let's play stop, bro.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: That's it, it's desperate.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: So you've already caught a lot of this. You've had interviews, right? Monosyllabic. Wow,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: And the one you wanted a lot. You know when
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: that happens? When you dream about someone. You dream about
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: that person. It's going to happen. It's going to happen.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm afraid to know who I'm a fan of.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid to be disappointed. I'm a fan of Ellen Macpherson.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: I think she's wonderful. I've always liked her because of
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: my fashion side. I've always found her beautiful. I admired
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: this woman. I follow her on social media. Coincidentally, one
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: day I was talking to a friend who lives in
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: the United States, and she said, you don't know, my
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: son studies with Ellen Macpherson's son. I said, no, I
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: don't believe it. She said, I'm talking to you. She said,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: do you want to meet?
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: I said, no, no, I don't even want to get close.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: Leave her image on my head.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Leave her here, because if I cross and she is
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: antipathic to me, or something like that happens, my world
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: will fall to a degree. I won't want to go
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: through this process, you know? For example, I remember when
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: I was little, my mother was a fan of Francisco Coco.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: And I was a girl.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: My mother said, go there and ask for an autograph
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: for him. She gave me a paper and a pen.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: I took a no from Francisco Coco. I came back
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: with the paper and the pen, and I.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: Said, mom, this guy is crazy.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: It didn't work.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: Poor thing.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: And then you get that.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Well, Francisco Coco died a little while ago. Do you
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: know that I went to Globo to make a soap opera?
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: He crossed, I didn't look at him.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Traumatized.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I was with Hanso.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: I carried Hanso.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: I carried him because I said, this guy is not cool.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: It wasn't cool.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: And poor thing.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: Imagine, he's super nice. But he sent a no that.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: I never forgot.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: So this marks us in a weird way, you know?
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: Especially if we like to idolize other people.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: You'll see, if someone tells you this story, you'll say,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: she can have all this, but she doesn't have this defect.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: I stop what I'm doing, I take a picture, I
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: stop what I'm doing, I change an idea, I'm that person.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: Because I value my work, right?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: Galista, do you still get nervous when there was a
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: moment when you said, my God, I can't stand nervousness,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: I'm going to meet someone, or you're going to interview someone,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: or it was a super important moment?
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: On the day of the Dock's launch.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: I just got.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: I did the press collection, super ok. And then I
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: invited friends. Friends, who were there? People who were important
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: to my work, people who crossed my path and who
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: helped me. But I had a limitation of people, unfortunately,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: because I have a lot of people to invite. So
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: I had a lot of people there that I could invite.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: But the people who were there are intimate people. Girl,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: my mouth dried up, my heart accelerated, I started to cry,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: I couldn't talk. I said, excuse me, I'm used to
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: the microphone and stage, but I can't talk. I couldn't
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: talk about the show, I couldn't talk to my friends.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: I had just made a press conference, I talked to everyone,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: as I'm talking to you here. When I relaxed, when
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: I was with my friends, it gave me a thing,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: a tralala, that didn't go, my mouth dried up. I
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: spoke there a little weird, it seemed like I didn't
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: have the habit of the microphone, you know?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: I was super nervous. I was super nervous.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: And when it's just the CPF, we deliver the soul.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: When you deliver the soul, you are vulnerable.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: So I get super nervous and I think it's also
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: valid for us to let this happen. Because this subject, Doc,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: is a subject that is painful. It's not painful just
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: for me, it's painful for everyone. Because we miss that,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: we miss him, we start to understand the things that happened.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: It hurts everyone.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: I'll bring this subject here, because it's cool. You said
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: it hurts, and we were talking about it here before.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: I was with Ricardo, our press advisor, and then I
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: saw that he made a post about Senna. I said, man,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: that's cool, Rica. Come to the table today for us
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: to talk about it. I think it's going to hit
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: Senna at some point. Then he said, Bonitinho, I'm a
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: big fan of Senna. I said, a big fan of
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 4: how much? He said... When I was a kid, I
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: had 400 items of him, I collected things and stuff.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: I said, then he told me something that I laughed,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: but I saw that he felt it in his heart.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: He said, so much so that when he passed away,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: I thought it was my fault. Sad like that. I said,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: what is this, Ricardo? You laugh, right? How is it
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: your fault? It's that I was a kid, I was
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: 8 years old, and then there was an accident. And
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: then in the accident, my mom commented on me and stuff,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: and I spoke out loud, because a guy had died before. Ah,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: he's going to die.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: Joked.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: And then came the news that Ayrton.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: Had passed away.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Wow, he must have stayed.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: He said he kept believing that it was him.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: What a crazy thing.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: That his mother had to come and talk to him.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: And he's sad here, okay? He's a man, an adult.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, take it. I'm telling you to take it.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: He's here like this. Oh, my mother had to come
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: and talk to me and say that, oh son, these
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: things have nothing to do with it. You're not the
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: one to blame.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: And he's sad.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: I said, oh Rico, even forgive me. I laughed too,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: the way you said it. So it's very crazy, because.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: It moves everyone. It moves, it moves with who is
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: very young. My son is 15 years old, he knows
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: very little, right? So I'm walking with him in the mall,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: he was tiny, very tiny. I'm walking with him in
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: the mall, there was one, Ayrton was in an image
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: with the Tag Royal, right? That watch. Vitório stopped and said, mom,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: this guy you're dating, isn't he? Very small, but very tall,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: very disproportionate, very tall. Then I looked at him like this,
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: he was passing by, I lost my laughter, I got
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: that kind of mood, I said, yeah, because I made
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: a point of telling him, even when he didn't understand.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: He didn't understand anything he was talking about at that moment,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: because he was little. But he already knew, so today,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: at 15, he knows exactly what his mother went through,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Because it's important for us to tell
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: these stories, we need to show it. And he didn't
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: experience this pain, but he feels it. He will watch
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: the documentary and he will cry. At the launch, 21 minutes,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people crying. Because it moves,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: because you will go back to that story that we
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: already somehow, it's not that we forgot, but we erased it.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: We erased the scene. Because it's a pain, right? The
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: scene is horrible. The scene is heavy, the scene of
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: the accident, the scene of the funeral. It's hard to
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: see all that. You see São Paulo stopped. You see
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: São Paulo absolutely.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: It's the cortege.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: We've never seen anything like it. Never again. It didn't
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: really happen.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: Never again.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: And we won't see it, I think.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think we'll have.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Anyone else who will see what we've been through. You know?
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: It's very difficult to see what... I used to go
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: to the court, I remember this feeling in my head,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: I looked at it all, it was silence. Can you
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: imagine São Paulo in silence?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: I think you, at that moment, you saw everything and said.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: It's a lie. No, no, I'm going to wake up,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going to wake up. I'm going to wake up
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: tomorrow and there won't be anything... So, like this, it
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: chased me, this silence. for a long time, because then
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: I went to live in Portugal for a while, right?
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: Because I said next year, but at the beginning when
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: I went to live there, I was alone in Portugal,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: absolutely alone with employees, so I continued in silence. Silence
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: persecuted me a lot, I think maybe that's why I
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: don't like silence very much, you know? I'm a woman
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: who likes music, likes people, likes to talk, I'm not
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: that woman much of silence, of being alone, it reminds
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: me a little of this place, that I was very
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: impressed with silence, In São Paulo, on the day of
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: the funeral.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: The silence was in crowds, right? Because you were in crowds.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: There were thousands of people on the street. There wasn't
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: a horn. There wasn't a bell. Man. It was a
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: fucking silence.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: A deafening silence. Silence and deafening.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: It bothers you.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: You say, man, it's not possible. I'm passing in São Paulo,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: which is the loudest, most messy city. It's like that. So,
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: there was a child, an old man, an adult. There
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: was everything. Everything. A dog. Not even a dog barking.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: It's impressive. So, this is something that you will feel
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: a lot in the images. That we remember this. Thank
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: you for sharing this with the world.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: Not only with us, but with the world, as you said.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 4: We are anxious.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: Don't forget at 4 in the morning. And what I
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 4: want to say too, I want to ask.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: Did you talk about Vitório? And how do you take
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: care of Vitório' s exposure? Ah, I don't take care of.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: Him, I leave him a little, you know? I was
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: never that person to hide his face, I was never
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: that person to take the french fries off his forehead,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: to take the ice cream, I'm that woman who thinks
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: he has to understand life as it is. I'm an
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: exposed woman and I love my job. He has always
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: been part of that. um sorvete eu sou essa mulher
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: que acho que ele tem que entender a vida como
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: ela é eu sou uma mulher exposta e amo meu
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: trabalho ele sempre fez parte disso ele quer fazer a
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: foto ele faz ele não quer fazer a foto ele
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: não faz mas não vai mostrar a língua para fotógrafo
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: entendeu não vem ele tem que entender às vezes eu
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: preciso dele às vezes às vezes eu tenho que estar
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: com ele numa Adolescente, fazer foto, você sabe como é, né?
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 4: Nossa, não quer. Vai dar mãe com a mãe?
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: Ah, mas não quer de jeito nenhum. Eu falo, você
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: vai querer.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: Só tem você.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 6: Mas como que ele, na escola, ele tirava onda que
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 6: ele tinha a mãe dele?
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Não, ele é o cara, ele tinha tudo pra ser
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: um mimadão. Because my biggest sadness as a mother is
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: not being able to pamper my son.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: He doesn't let me. No, but he doesn't do that.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: He doesn't let me.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know why he was born like that.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: He doesn't want to.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: He wants to do everything by himself. He's a very
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: different guy.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: Than I am.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to do everything for my son.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't have anything. I'm going to give everything. And
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: don't tell me he's going to be bad because of that.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Because I think the person doesn't have to be. If
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: you screw up in life like me, I screwed up
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: to be a good person.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: No, I think so too.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: These values are all wrong. Ah, I'm going to go
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: first class, my son is going to go economics.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: He gives value.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: I think that's absurd.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: I'm against it.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do everything I can for him to
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: be happy. What will make him good character is him
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: knowing how to treat people, he has education, he knows
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: his size, he knows the size of the other, he
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: knows how to respect the different.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 4: And have dialogue at home.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: You know? Have communication. This, for me, is very different
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: from what you can do or not. Because there are
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: people who think, ah, it's going to give a present
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: and ruin it. No, what ruins it is the lack
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: of education. It's no use you having everything in your
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: life and not having education. And it's no use you
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: having nothing in your life too and.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: Not having education.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Because this is a matter of education.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: I had nothing.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Nothing. I was very different from my brother. My brother
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: was a cool guy, but he chose a very different path.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know how he chose this path. He came
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: out of the same belly as me. So there are
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: some things you say, but it's not possible. He had
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: the same education as me. We studied in a state
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: school our whole lives. So, if I can give my
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: son a much better life, I will.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 4: And don't come to me and say, now ask if.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: He wants it. He doesn't want the kiss, he doesn't
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: want the gift, he wants the things he wants, his
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: little thing. He's a different guy. So, Vitório, he likes
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: palm trees. You know, his head has a ball. He
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: has a ball from Palmeiras, a belt on one side.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: On the other side, he has a ball from Palmeiras,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: you know? McDonald's here in front, like this, taking a...
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: And I don't know where I am. I'm out there.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Look at the mother, look at the mother.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Look at the mother, look at the mother.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: His business is Palmeiras.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: Palmeiras, boy, it's Palmeiras.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: His business is another.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: He likes.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: Look at his friends. He likes to watch the video.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: He likes to watch you. Just so you know. He's
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: the guy from YouTube.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 4: Vitória, he's invited for you to come here when you want.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: He's going to love it. First thing I said... Pedro,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: who showed me everything, who did the tour with me,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: I said, man, my son is going to come in here,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: he's going to go crazy, because he's this guy, he's
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: the guy from the podcast, he's the guy from YouTube,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: he likes to see the guys, that's what he sees,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: he's not a dazzled guy, nor mimed, he had everything
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: to be, I thought, I said, you're a boy's mom, mimed, boy,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: everything wrong, he's the best boy you can imagine, so
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's very cool too, and then as he
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: deals with the photos and with the press, as I
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: tell him, son, I need you to take the photo, Ok,
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: I'll do it. He does it for me. I know
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: he's doing it for me. But his Instagram, up to
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: six months ago, was under my command. Now he has
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: my command and his. I post a picture and he
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: goes there and takes it. I say, not this one.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put mine here. I say, no, wait
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: a minute. That picture will get a lot more likes.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: He says, I'm not worried about likes. I want to
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: put a picture that I like. So he already has
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: his own personality. He goes there and takes it off,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: It's very crazy.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: It's that we're.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: Not parents, but it must be like this. You want
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: to take your son to school, leave him there at
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: the door. No, don't do that. Post a photo of us, son.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I won't post it.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: You're not going to post a photo of us?
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: You're not going to put your dad's neck here? I'll
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: tell you the worst.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: When he was little, he had his Corinthians phase. And
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to screw him?
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: Ah, Vitório! It's registered forever! He's going to tell me why.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: My mom said that!
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: There's a picture of him on Santa Claus' lap, in
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: a Corinthians shirt, orange, orange, with a symbol here, on
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: Santa Claus' lap, happy. His father, Palmeirense, his whole life.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: But why was he in.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: That vibe of wanting to be a goalkeeper?
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: The goalkeeper from the building started to play with him,
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: hit the ball, hit the ball with the goalkeeper.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: The goalkeeper started.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: .
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 4: .
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: Then it was going, it was going, he came back,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: but we almost lost, we almost lost, it was sad,
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: but I have this photo, so every now and then
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: I say, don't forget, I can.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: Put this one here for everyone to see.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: I can put everything I lost.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: I can put everything I lost.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool, really.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: Man, I think this is the.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: Biggest pain in the son.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Wow, then it hurts, then it hurts.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: He, like, having this moment in his life, because he
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: was very young, influenced there and such, but today he
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 4: chose to go to Palmeiras and he went to Palmeiras,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: but he to know that his mother has one of these.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: On her sleeve, he must be like this.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: If Abel and the ball and Palmeiras are on his head, then.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: Abel could leave, right?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: Leo Dias doesn't know anything about Abel. Leo Dias knows
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: about everyone, all his life. There's a guy I wanted
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: to meet, but I don't know Abel.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: I'm super Palmeirense, I've been to CT, I've been there,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: I've talked to everyone, there are signed t-shirts. Did you
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: like him? I couldn't change my mind with Abel yet.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: My dream is to change my mind with Abel, because
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: I think he must be sensational.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: He must be. Abel, what's that? Abel, help me.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: What's that, Abel? Go back to Portugal, my brother.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: I wanted to ask you something, because you've done everything
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 6: in your life, career, professionally.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: Is there something you still want to do?
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 6: Because you're a reality show presenter, you play the documentary.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Professionally, I have a lot, because the day I tell
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: you I'm cool, I'm at the end, right?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 6: Isn't there one that you're in the gutter, one that
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 6: you want?
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of things that I want, I'm
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: inventing things, and then I regret it. There are things
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: that I'm leaving in the middle, because I'm very good
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: at initiative and terrible at determination.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 6: When you see that it takes a lot of work,
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 6: a lot of things, you say.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: I passed.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: I go well, I get excited, and when I see
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: the size of the challenge, I say, let me go.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: I think I'm not going to do it. I'm going
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: to leave this for next year.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to sleep.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Wait, let me change. But I like it a lot.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: I'm very excited about things. So, at this moment, I'm
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: releasing a book on a very different subject from everything
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: we've already talked about here, which I'm talking about menopause,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: which is a process in the life of a woman
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: that I had no idea what it was. My mother
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: still doesn't.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: Know daily about it. I'm taking several classes.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: So, take it, because your... your wife, your daughter, your wife,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: one day will go through this and you will be
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: on the side and it is important that you know.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: Is it a bit overwhelming?
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: It's a bit.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: Overwhelming and I imagine that in a few years people
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: will say, my God, people had to talk about it
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: in the air, it's so normal. But it wasn't normal
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: for me. Nobody talked about it. I had nowhere to look,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: nowhere to read, nowhere to do anything. I was having
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: a hard time. I was having a hard time. I
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: was having a hard time by myself. I didn't have
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: anyone to talk to. I was ashamed to talk. How
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: could I talk?
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 5: Stop.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: Because the menopause, as far as I knew, was something
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: like the end. People would think I was at the end.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 4: I'm old.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: I'm out of my mind.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to my husband. I'm out of
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: my mind.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: I'm out of my mind.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: I'm out of my mind.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: God save me. God save me. God save me.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 4: God save me.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: God save me.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: God save me. God save me.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: God save me. My husband will look at me like,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: what will he think? If he doesn't know anything about
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: this menopause. So, I lived a very difficult moment alone.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: Then I decided to talk, I decided to expose and
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: I started to realize that it was the best thing
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: I've ever done in my life, because it's a lot
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: of women. A lot of allies.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: You won, right?
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: But women would have someone talking too, because we have
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: to know that.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: We are not alone.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Only that no one spoke, because it was shameful to
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: talk about it. How are you going to talk about
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: this subject? Not only did I decide to speak, but
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: I became the ambassador of a portal that has no
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: lucrative purpose, called Eu Tô No Clima, which is a
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: super safe place for women, which is cool, right? For
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: women to talk, to get questions with the doctor, to understand.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: And because of that, we were able to approve a
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: law in São Paulo, which my dream is to turn
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: this law into a national one, that women can look
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: for at SUS, help today, for menopause, which was something
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: we didn't have. So we already have a wonderful achievement,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: but no one divulges it, right? It's hard to divulge
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: good things. So, for this law to work nationally, for
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: this law to work for women who live in Acre,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: it has to work in São Paulo. Because if it
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't work in São Paulo, she's going to die here.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: And I want this to happen all over Brazil. So
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: I need to warn women who are in the climate
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: and menopause and are not able to find a doctor
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: and to pay for this treatment, go to SUS because
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: you have the right, because of the law that we
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: managed to approve. So it's already possible for you to
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: look for SUS here in São Paulo. So this is
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: a super cool subject.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: And look for it to give strength, right?
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Look for it to give strength, understand? Go there, look, see,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: do your exams, understand your replacement, because you have to
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: do replacement, you have to do supplementation, there are many
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: things that involve a woman in menopause. And this subject
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: is very serious, very serious, because there are women asking...
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: asking for resignation in a factory, in a place where
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: she works, because she doesn't know how to deal with
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: what she's living. And there's a time.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 4: When we think she won't make it. I think the
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: worst of all is for a woman to look.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: At herself and think that what you said, I'm at
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: the end, my.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: If I tell my husband, he'll change me for two.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 6: My mother didn't talk to me right, but she just
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 6: had a surgery, and I was trying to understand, feeling
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 6: that she wasn't talking to me right. Then she said,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 6: my son, I'm on menopause and I'm also understanding what's
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: going on.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: It's a drastic change of a man.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 6: Then I realized, man, this thing must be a bomb
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: in the woman's body. I don't understand what's going on.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 6: I'm going to do a surgery because my uterus has
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 6: a problem, I don't know what, and menopause, I don't understand, son.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: No, and everything stops. And you, all of a sudden,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: you wake up, you see badly, you hear badly, your
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: hair falls, your chest falls, everything falls, everything goes away.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: What madness, man.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: But it's very suddenly, like that. You start to sleep badly.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: You start to wake up in the middle of the night.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: And you say, man, I must be stressed. So you
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: put so many excuses for yourself. You think it's stress,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: you think it's what you're... Today everyone is experiencing this stress.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: So you put everything on the account of stress.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: It must affect your relationship, your life.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: Everything, because you start to lose libido. You start to
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: deal with... You start to see your skin of the
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: different hand. Then you start to get fat. Doing everything
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: the same, you start getting fat. Your body will get different.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Your mother is not getting fat?
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: Suddenly this happens.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: Then the woman gets sad, because think about it, the
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: woman gets sad when she gets fat. Don't see me
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: saying that she gets happy because she doesn't. No one
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: gets happy getting fat. The woman gets crazy about life.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: So, this role is very serious.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 3: So, when I started to.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: Understand and to be able to inform myself, because information
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: is as important as treatment, I said, I'm not going
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: to keep this for myself. I'm going to tell what
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: I did and what worked for everyone. And I started
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: to tell. And it started to work on my social networks.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: Then I called my doctor and said, how about we
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: write a book? Menopause without mystery. In a very practical
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: and objective way. Right in the middle of this confusion, okay?
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: I took my days off, took the doctor with me
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: to a house that I have in the countryside.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: You were already crazy. I was already crazy.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: Let's record.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: And I started to record my testimonials. Record, record, record, record, record. Boom,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: it became a book. I'm going to release it now.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: What day is the release of the book?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: December 1st.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 4: O seu marido, que é seu empresário, ele deve falar assim,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: mas você arruma umas, né?
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: Sossega, mulher.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 4: Vai dar fazendo pra menopausa.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: Vai dar fazendo pra menopausa.
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: É muito, e vai pro doc.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 4: E expulsam aqui, e vai documentar de conta, e vota,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 4: e vai menopausa. Ai, meu corpo tá pegando fogo.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: Pra quem você quer.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: Fazer um livro agora, mulher?
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: Não, fazendo, deixa acabar. I'm going to win a Nobel Prize.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: I'm going to arrive on a Sunday, because my dream
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: is to play a Sunday live. I'm going to come
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: back with that Sunday. You have that desire. I have
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: that desire. Sunday is a very important day for Brazilian TV,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: and the women arrived. They arrived on Sunday, they weren't
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, but they arrived on Sunday. And they started
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: to make a difference. I want to do a Sunday
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: show with a condition.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: With money for production.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: Don't see me on Sunday of Poverty, because.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: Then I won't go.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: Sunday of Poverty you can't.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: Sunday of Poverty I'm out, I'm out. I want pictures,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: I want to do.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: A cool thing.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: I want studio, LEDs.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 1: I want something like you guys here.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: Like you guys.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: To make this happen to have a house like yours.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: If you're watching us, you have no idea what I'm
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: talking about. But down here, there's a whole world. There's
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: even a basketball court. I'm going to take the bishops
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: out of here.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 5: There's even a basketball court. e se liga aí record
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 5: tem tudo aqui viu.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 6: Mas que da hora saber que você quer um domingão
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 6: eu quero tem tudo a ver.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: Mas não quero abrir mão da Fazenda uma coisa é
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: uma coisa outra coisa é outra.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 6: Lógico domingo você tá todos os dias da semana aqui
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 6: na Fazenda e domingo você.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: Faz assim de setembro a dezembro que a gente faz
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: temporadas né você pode fazer a primeira parte do ano
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: no domingo para.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 6: This plan must be much bigger, because we only saw
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 6: the tip of this plan. But I hope in a
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 6: few years you will see it too. That's why I say,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 6: thank God I'm medicated.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: I'm eating a pausa a day, because if I didn't
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: have it, I wouldn't be here with.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: All this energy.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 4: And it's admirable.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: Inspirator too. That's it. How cool.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: I'm happy.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: Inspirator.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 4: I'm happy.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: You've done all this.
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 6: In your life, in your career, and you're still here
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 6: talking about releasing a book, that you're going to do that.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: It's Sunday.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: And we know because you're a woman.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: It's all harder.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 4: It's harder than for you. The door has always opened
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 4: for men in a natural way.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: Women always had to prove a lot more to achieve.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: We still have a lot to conquer. We have already
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: conquered a lot. But we still have a lot to conquer.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: But I especially, I don't know why, I have a
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: lot to thank God for. I am a woman who kneels,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: I thank more than I ask. This makes a difference.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: But I will say... as coisas não são fáceis para
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: mim eu tenho que cavar elas não caem como eu
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: ver às vezes tem gente que tem mais facilidade com
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: as coisas eu não tenho uma árvore lá no meu
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: quintal que eu vou lá e puxa um saquinho de
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: dinheiro saquinho de trabalho um espacinho na televisão.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 4: Aqui pequenas coisas você ali conhecendo Ayrton você não tava
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: nem pensando.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: Não vou nem ficar com ele mas isso não fazia parte.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: Vou continuar aqui para eu não perder a oportunidade de
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 4: estar próxima de alguém legal porque você If you were
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: a man, you would never have thought about it. You
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: would only have had fun there.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: For me, things were not easy.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 3: They still are.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: That's why I thank God, because I have strength. I
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: ask God for discernment and strength. Health, for me to
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: keep my life here. Because if he takes me away,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: who will do it for me?
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 3: No one.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: Because things don't go with no one knocking on the
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: door of my house. I have a campaign here for you.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: Do you want to do it?
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: You're digging.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: I think there's a fit here with the brand. What
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: do you think? We can do this. It's always like this.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: I make two for free for you in the third one.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: It's the chacrinha.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: Remember the chacrinha I told you? It's the white aza.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: It's still there.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: It hasn't changed.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: Very cool. Very cool, really.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: Galisteu... What an honor to be able to talk to you,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: I wanted to know if.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: You liked it.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: I was very happy, for a long time I didn't
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: give an interview like this, that I could exchange an
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: idea as a friend, because I didn't even feel interviewed.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: I spoke here, I thought it was so cool, I
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: felt at home, I was happy.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you, how cool.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: You deserve everything you've achieved, it's not for nothing that
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: you've achieved.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 4: You too, and what we were telling you is very admirable,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 4: all your strength, all that you've been through, and keep going,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 4: and keep going, and keep going, and ambitious, and want more.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 4: And that's really cool, that's really inspiring. If it's for us,
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 4: imagine it's for women. So I think that's the biggest difference, Continue,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: don't stop.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: Life is a gift, that's how I see it. Life
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: is very, very present. We're going to see this doc now,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: I'm even happier that we met her, saw all these
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: stories up close.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: Man, this doc, 4 o'clock in.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: The morning, okay?
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 6: I already put the alarm on, because for God's sake,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 6: after this chat, I felt a little bit of desire.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: If you don't even know Senna's story, you'll know it,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 6: if you know it, you'll know it even more.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: That's it, guys, I think you'll like it, you'll get emotional.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: And also follow me, because it's hard to increase the
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: number of followers, huh?
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: Instagram is awesome, right? What happened? Did Instagram stop?
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know, bro.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: We work, we do a lot of things.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: Even there I call, I say, is everything okay?
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: Is someone dead?
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: Is it the machine that presses a button that increases
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: the number? It's over, right?
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 5: I stopped.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: I stopped.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 4: It's very good. I stopped. I even gave a salute
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: on Instagram. What happened?
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: I'm always on TV.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: TikTok, I'm dancing.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 3: I'm feeling a real shame.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: But how is Tik Tok?
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: Tik Tok is better. Tik Tok is better.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: But Instagram, wake up for life, because we need you.
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: Even if you put a follower to make us happy.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: It's all organic.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: Organically speaking, it's hard. Help us.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 5: Help us.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 3: Release the button.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: Follow Galisteu on all social networks.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 5: Galisteu official.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: I want to see you following me too.
• 1:55:52
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