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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome back to another episode up Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: any and all things Star Wars. I'm your host as always, Katie,
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  Speaker 2: and joining me is Clay. Clay. I know how you're doing,
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  Speaker 2: but you share what you want to share.
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  Speaker 3: With it's I have not really made it public as
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  Speaker 3: of yet, and I am okay with making it public
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  Speaker 3: because you know what stuff happens. I am out of
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  Speaker 3: a job currently, I am currently looking for work. It
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  Speaker 3: was very uh sudden, very unforre fortunate, and uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's really it, I will say, you know, looking on
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  Speaker 3: the bright side of things.
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  Speaker 4: Yesterday I had even texted you.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Hey, I have a lot more time
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  Speaker 3: to finish this book we're gonna talk about today. So
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  Speaker 3: I I am in the headspace that I need to
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  Speaker 3: be to of course find a new job.
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  Speaker 4: Looking for that new job.
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  Speaker 3: I have some resources that I'm hopefully tapping into this week,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm not too worried yet. I know that being
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  Speaker 3: unemployed for a long period of time can be very,
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  Speaker 3: very scary because it's happened to me before. That's literally
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  Speaker 3: the reason why I moved up here to Indiana, but.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think I'll be okay. We we.
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  Speaker 3: Somewhat saw the writing on the wall, just didn't know
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  Speaker 3: it was gonna happened this quickly. Unfortunately, just with the
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  Speaker 3: way management was kind of treating me, I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, if this happens in the future, we'll
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  Speaker 3: just go out with our head up high.
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  Speaker 4: And it happened literally.
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  Speaker 3: The week that I had talked to Abby about it,
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  Speaker 3: So yikes. But yeah, with that, guys, we had to get.
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  Speaker 2: It out some Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah like it.
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  Speaker 3: And honestly, like, the whole reason why I got that
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  Speaker 3: job was because of my love for comics, and my
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  Speaker 3: love for comics has not dissipated whatsoever. So I am
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  Speaker 3: still gonna be the same person I was before that
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  Speaker 3: job and after that job. Uh so still my my
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  Speaker 3: my spiel at the end of the episode, you know,
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  Speaker 3: following me for these reasons and that reasons, I'm still
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  Speaker 3: using Blue Sky to push out indie comics creators and
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  Speaker 3: artists that I absolutely love that I have learned to
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  Speaker 3: love through that job.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, like it.
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  Speaker 3: If anything, that job was a stepping stone, and I
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  Speaker 3: do appreciate it for that reason. So yeah, like honestly,
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  Speaker 3: it's like I said, stuff happens and we're gonna move
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  Speaker 3: past it. But we have very minuscule news and rumors.
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  Speaker 2: I would not call one of them rumors.
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  Speaker 4: Uh which one the one right here in the corner here? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, see, no, no, that's the news. Okay, the rumors.
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  Speaker 3: If you see the title here, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you saw that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 3: So it was a very quick thing that kind of
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  Speaker 3: happened this weekend slash week at the beginning of the week,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody kind of just was like, oh, okay, and
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  Speaker 3: then moved on. There was not a whole lot of
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  Speaker 3: talk about it. There was not a whole lot of
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  Speaker 3: conversations around it. And I think it's basically for the
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  Speaker 3: fact that right now that's how people feel about Star Wars.
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  Speaker 3: And I do think that we have to wait and
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  Speaker 3: see a Star Wars movie again in theaters for people
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  Speaker 3: to actually be willing to have more of a conversation
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  Speaker 3: about future Star Wars movie.
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  Speaker 2: We have to see the consequences of our actions in
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  Speaker 2: order to go, okay, we can go to the future.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly, So let's go ahead and talk about
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  Speaker 3: the confirmed news. Yes, especially since I just got done
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  Speaker 3: watching probably one of my favorite episodes of Doctor Who,
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  Speaker 3: which is in the new season. By the way, I
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  Speaker 3: have not seen all of the new season. Don't worry.
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  Speaker 3: The ending episode already got spoiled for me. Absolutely hate it,
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  Speaker 3: but I hate that. I hate that it got spoiled
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  Speaker 3: for me. I don't know the context of it, but
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  Speaker 3: it will be whatever it is when I finally see it.
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  Speaker 3: But I just finished watching the Well this season, which
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  Speaker 3: references my actual favorite episode in all of Doctor Who,
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  Speaker 3: and so and I can't even say it because it
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  Speaker 3: literally like spoils the reveal in the episode.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, Like, I'm ready to talk about Doctor Who.
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  Speaker 3: Because Matt Smith is getting another chance at Star Wars.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, y'all. Deadline landed the report, and this has been
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  Speaker 2: rumored that he was up for this role, but Deadline
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  Speaker 2: landed the report that he will be portraying the villain
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  Speaker 2: or a villain role in Star Wars Starfighter, the movie
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  Speaker 2: by Sean Levy with Ryan Gosling as our hero. This
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  Speaker 2: report also confirms the rumor that Mia Goth had been
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  Speaker 2: cast in this movie as well, but not in what
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  Speaker 2: role because She was rumored to be hunted for the
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  Speaker 2: villain role as well. Yes, so unknown if they split
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  Speaker 2: or if there's two villains which could possibly be or
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  Speaker 2: if she's.
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  Speaker 3: Now playing there's always too.
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  Speaker 4: Now I I I love this.
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  Speaker 2: I love this, but I also kind of hate this.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, speak your mind. I want to hear. I want
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  Speaker 4: to hear your thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: We have a lot of white people in this.
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  Speaker 4: Movie, yes, now?
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  Speaker 3: Oh wait, no, I'm thinking about the Daisy Ridley movie.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on, yeah, a whole it's a it's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of white I totally understand. I will need a very strong,
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  Speaker 3: diverse supporting cast.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And I think with Sean Levy that's my
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  Speaker 2: only hesitation. I haven't I've seen some of his stuff obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but like, haven't seen a whole lot of diversity in
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  Speaker 2: what I've seen. So that's my big worry.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 3: The only I am I The only two things that
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  Speaker 3: I have seen I believe from Sean Levy is, of course,
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  Speaker 3: uh Deadpool three and what was that Netflix?
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  Speaker 4: The Adam Projects, The Adam Project. Now in the Atom Project.
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  Speaker 3: Zoe Zeldana True was in that movie and she was fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you can't tell me that you haven't seen Cheaper
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  Speaker 2: by the Dozen O, yes, yes, yes, but the Pink Panther.
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  Speaker 4: I actually have never.
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  Speaker 3: Seen the Pink Panther with uh uh uh Steve uh
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  Speaker 3: Steve Wart.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's how I developed my love of movies.
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  Speaker 2: Is that's one of my dad's favorite movies. Y'all?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I I have never seen Pink Panther.
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  Speaker 3: I have seen Cheaper by the Dozen. I was gonna say, though,
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  Speaker 3: Cheaper by the Dozen also very white?
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  Speaker 2: So yes, uh Night at the Museum.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that is true. That is true love Night at
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  Speaker 4: the Musum.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then Free Guy, so hey, yeah, I have also
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  Speaker 3: seen Free Guy, but Free Guy was also.
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  Speaker 4: Very white.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully the powers that we go, Hey, can we cast
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  Speaker 2: diversity please?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And like I'm talking like good actors and stuff like,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be diversity for diversity sake.
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  Speaker 4: But I will also say this, do not choose people
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  Speaker 4: of color.
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  Speaker 3: Just to make up the shit out of them and
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  Speaker 3: make them an alien.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want it.
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  Speaker 2: That was about what I was going to say too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
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  Speaker 2: I love this casting though. When he was rumored for
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  Speaker 2: Episode nine, which I did not find out until later
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  Speaker 2: that he was going to be the villain and duel
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  Speaker 2: of the Faiths. I had my heart broken over that.
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  Speaker 3: I like I I will tell you this U, Mats
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  Speaker 3: Smith was my doctor. He is the one that I
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  Speaker 3: jumped in on doctor who I will say my favorite
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  Speaker 3: doctor now is Peter Capaldi. But Matt Smith is my doctor.
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  Speaker 3: He is the one that produced me to the universe,
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  Speaker 3: and so I have been super excited to see him
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  Speaker 3: in anything that he jumps in on. And when I
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  Speaker 3: heard that he was being latched onto Star Wars, I
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  Speaker 3: about squealed like a like a freaking thirteen year old
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  Speaker 3: that a Justin Bieber concert like.
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  Speaker 4: I was a static to see.
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  Speaker 3: This man possibly like either be just like a disgustingly
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  Speaker 3: like political villain. More possibly somebody that would wield a
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  Speaker 3: lightsaber like just those two thoughts in my mind. Yea,
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  Speaker 3: the acting range on both of those types of characters
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  Speaker 3: would be absolutely amazing for Master.
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  Speaker 2: And I think as Damon in the House of the Dragon,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's proved himself in the sword fighting capabilities.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously sword and lightsaber not so similar, but not so
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  Speaker 2: dissimilar either, so but I.
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  Speaker 4: Do think that he would be capable and trainable.
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  Speaker 3: To get that kind of you know, movement with a
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  Speaker 3: lightsaber and stuff like that, if they so choose to
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  Speaker 3: put him on that path for this movie Starfighter, for
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  Speaker 3: all we know, is about a pilot.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know much else about this movie whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I am excited to see how this turns out.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm I'm super excited.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really happy for Matt and especially, like like I said,
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  Speaker 3: for me to also be jumping back into Doctor Who.
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  Speaker 3: Also boo on WB for apparently getting rid of all
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  Speaker 3: of Doctor Who on HBO Max.
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  Speaker 4: I think that was.
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  Speaker 2: Their contract though I think BBC's contract was up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really okay, yeah, okay, because I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: also don't really like I could see wb just being like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just get rid of it, sell it to somebody else
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  Speaker 3: and have it on some other streaming service and us
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  Speaker 3: get some of the revenue for it.
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  Speaker 4: We're all good. I can totally see them doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't made an appearance on another streaming service
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  Speaker 2: because my sister texted me was like, where is Doctor Who.
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  Speaker 3: I have seen people that were like literally in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of an episode where it like gave them the
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  Speaker 3: spinning wheel of death in the middle of an episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't think it was very publicized.
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  Speaker 4: So not at all. But yeah, that is the news
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  Speaker 4: for Matt Smith in Star Wars. Uh, now we move on.
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  Speaker 2: Let's knock out the other one so that we have
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  Speaker 2: in the chat before that's true.
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  Speaker 4: Let me let me grab the rumors.
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  Speaker 2: All right, y'all, we are gonna hit our first ad
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  Speaker 2: break and we will be right back in three two one. So,
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  Speaker 2: Lucasfilm has announced that it will have a year long
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  Speaker 2: celebration of the original Star Wars in twenty twenty seven
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  Speaker 2: to celebrate fifty years of Star Wars. We have talked
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  Speaker 2: about this, fifty years is coming.
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  Speaker 3: We know.
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  Speaker 2: Tom for Random House World has said, oh crap, we
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  Speaker 2: did forty years with from a certain point of view,
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  Speaker 2: Now what are we gonna do for fifty years?
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  Speaker 4: So you got any predictions? What do you think? What
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  Speaker 4: do you think is gonna happen? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Book wise, we it's obvious. And this was part of
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  Speaker 2: the announcement that the A New Hope n was going
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  Speaker 2: back to theaters for the fifty Some people are saying
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  Speaker 2: that the press release from Star Wars dot Com set
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  Speaker 2: indicates that it's going to be the original versions.
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  Speaker 3: I was literally just about to ask you, what do
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  Speaker 3: you think it is?
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  Speaker 2: I I don't know, because I could, Like George Lucas
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  Speaker 2: was very clear he never wanted but he sold his rights.
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  Speaker 2: But if all these crazy fanboys out in the galaxy
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  Speaker 2: want to pay attention to George Lucas's word above everything else,
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  Speaker 2: George Lucas never wanted the original versions to see the
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  Speaker 2: light of day after he made the special editions.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. That is very no.
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  Speaker 2: I could see both ways. I don't have a prediction.
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  Speaker 3: I am okay with watching either because yes, I will
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  Speaker 3: be going back to the movie theater, just like I
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  Speaker 3: did with Revenge of the Sith, I will be going back.
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  Speaker 4: To go see A New Hope because.
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  Speaker 3: A New Hope is the only Star Wars movie I
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  Speaker 3: have seen Impire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi
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  Speaker 3: both in theaters. Really small towns had nothing else to
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  Speaker 3: view over the weekends and so they just literally put
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  Speaker 3: them on their theater in the theater. A New Hope
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  Speaker 3: is literally the only movie that I have not seen
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  Speaker 3: Star Wars wise in a theater.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that would be very very fun to do.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, for.
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  Speaker 3: Me, I will go ahead and predict. I will predict
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  Speaker 3: a video game announcement for the fifth fieth, not a release.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying a video game will release on the
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  Speaker 3: fifth anniversary. I will say that a video game will
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  Speaker 3: be released or sorry, a video game will be announced,
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  Speaker 3: whether that be the third installment of the uh uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the Fallen Order? Is it Fallen Order?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Fallen Order Survivor.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Following Order Survivor with calkestis.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe that gets announced or maybe something entirely different.
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  Speaker 4: And possibly even updates, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But we also have to remember next year is the
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  Speaker 3: fiftieth anniversary. The very next year is Star Wars Celebration.
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  Speaker 2: So not next year is the fiftieth anniversary. It's twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven, so this is two years.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it is okay, Sorry, yeah, I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: next year, so it is the exact same year then.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I think you can literally predict.
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  Speaker 3: Anything and it could possibly come true, because not only
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  Speaker 3: are they gonna have the entire year to announce this stuff,
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  Speaker 3: but they solely have Star Wars Celebration as well.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to say that we do I want to
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  Speaker 4: go bold? Do I want to go bold? Here? The
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  Speaker 4: last time I went bold with celebration predictions. I got
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  Speaker 4: it right. So am I gonna be two for two?
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  Speaker 3: Hm?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Is there a possibility?
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  Speaker 3: Because we got a little crumbs of it?
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  Speaker 4: Do we finally see either an origin or the early
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  Speaker 4: days of Yoda? Are they ready to say it? Are
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  Speaker 4: they ready to give us that story?
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  Speaker 3: We got an inkling of it in the Mace Window
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  Speaker 3: comment or in the Mace Window Book.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think that we are ready for it?
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  Speaker 3: On the fiftieth anniversary of Star Wars.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I think is going to happen. I think
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  Speaker 2: the Mandin Grogu movie is going to end on a cliffhanger.
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  Speaker 2: This has been something that I've thought about for a while. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking Mandoin Grogu is going to end on a cliffhanger,
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  Speaker 2: and there's going to be another Yoda species and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be like Grogu, I finally found you because
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  Speaker 2: it's a.
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  Speaker 3: Clichi No, no, okay, no, no, I don't like it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like it. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 2: I really think that's what's gonna happen. It's gonna go
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  Speaker 2: back to Hey, Dan Jarn wants to return Grogu to
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  Speaker 2: his people and we got sidetracked because of the Jedi,
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  Speaker 2: but we know yoda species is long lived. Who's to
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  Speaker 2: say that his parents can't still be around.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't
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  Speaker 4: like it.
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  Speaker 2: So that would lead you. It would be because they've
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  Speaker 2: talked about mantoin Grogu being a trilogy and reigniting the
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars passion. You have a trilogy where you find
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  Speaker 2: Yoda's homeworld.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, Like, like, I like the possibility,
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  Speaker 5: but I don't like the execution, you know, like, and I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not saying that's going to be the execution.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I get it, I get it, But like,
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  Speaker 3: could you imagine like literally just dinjar It and Grogu
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  Speaker 3: just walking in some town and then you just hear
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  Speaker 3: a voice say, Groogu, I finally found you, and the
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  Speaker 3: camera freaking turns and it's.
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  Speaker 4: Who you think is Yoda or somebody, and you're just
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  Speaker 4: like what the fuck? Like, oh no, Well, and.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be like Rebels where the second movie they
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  Speaker 2: go on the journey to find the planet and like,
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  Speaker 2: but then they don't end up finding it until the
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  Speaker 2: third movie, and so the final scene of the third
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  Speaker 2: movie is dingjar and leaving Grogu behind, and then you
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  Speaker 2: skip a bit and everything, and he finally gets on
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  Speaker 2: a ship and he's like, well, I guess it's just
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  Speaker 2: you and me again. And then he goes take off
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  Speaker 2: and you see grow pop out of the little droid
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  Speaker 2: cabana thing in the Naboo Starfighter and he's like, you're
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  Speaker 2: not going anywhere without me, daddy.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, oh, no, okay, I don't want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about this anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like it. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 2: On that note, the next part of our news guys, So,
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  Speaker 2: the the William Shakespeare retellings of the Star Wars movies
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  Speaker 2: are famous, infamous. I've never read one.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly, every single time I passed them in the
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  Speaker 3: island at Barnes and Noble, yeah, I always really consider it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, do I need to waste my money on this?
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  Speaker 3: Because honestly, I love Star Wars, but I truly feel
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  Speaker 3: like this would be a waste of money.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I've never picked it up either, because
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  Speaker 2: I always had I've always had issues with old English
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  Speaker 2: and like poetry, I is the name of the game
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  Speaker 2: for Shakespeare.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, you make this into an audiobook? Boom.
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  Speaker 3: Not only would I buy the audiobook, I would buy
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  Speaker 3: the actual physical book to follow along with it. Do it, Lucasfilm,
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  Speaker 3: do it? Random House World? Whoever actually published this? Who
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  Speaker 3: published these?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's Random House World who published these.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Let's see, because I think it's on here William Shakespeare showers. Yep, here,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: it is William Shakespeare's Star Wars. Uh three hours and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: twenty nine minutes, William Shakespeare's The Jedi Docts Return.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: Wait? Is there actual audiobooks of this?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Yep? On audible? There?
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Do you know what that means? That means that are
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: on libby.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm literally going to look this up right now.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And it says unabridged, so damn it. What?
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Oh wait, it is unabridged. Okay, it is. I'm forgetting
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: that the abridged ones are the shorter ones. That's right,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: That's right, all right, William Shakespeare's Star Wars literally right here.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, Oh damn it, it's only the book. It's not
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: the it's the audible, damn it. Okay, that means that
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna have to you know, get some money
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: out of this, and and and and buy it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I can check also check if it's on leebro dot FM.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, like I I actually really like this
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: for the Mando verse because.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I I love a gimmick.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: I absolutely love a gimmick such as speaking of Matt Smith,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Matt Smith was also in the movie
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: that was like Shakespeare in Zombies.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Or something like that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: There's something along the lines of like was it Shakespeare
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: in Zombies or Jane Austen in Zombies?
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: There was something I could see Jane Austen.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: There was something like that.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're just gonna look for Matt Smith. God, I
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: love the long hair like look on him. Not the
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: doctor who long hair looked, but like the.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Pride and prejudice in Zombies. Yes, he was in that movie.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I like the idea of pride and prejudice in zombies
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: sounds really really stupid, but I bet you what do
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: you think I would get a really good laugh out
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: of that movie, which you can literally watch it on Hulu.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: And or Disney Plus.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: By the way, Okay, so.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: If anybody is curious, I have.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Ever seen it. I've read the book, so.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I just think that things like this because
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: there there is something for everybody, right, Yes, there's this
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: idea that if somebody likes a certain medium, the only
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: way they would be able to touch Star Wars. Like we've
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: talked about this in visions. We've talked about this literally envisions.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: The only way that some anime fans are actually watching
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Star Wars content is through visions. And so the only
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: way some you know, hardcore Shakespearean nerd is reading Star
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Wars is through these novels. And I'm for it, Like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I think it's really cool.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't mind this at all. What's over.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I just know it's not for me. Ye, So, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I think that's okay. In the long, in the grand
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: scheme of things, I buy enough Star Wars to keep
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Star Wars and business exactly. We're gonna go into our
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: second ad break and we'll be right back, all right.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: So the last bit of news that we had, so
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Manny Jacinto is doing interviews for his upcoming movie Freakier Friday,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: which comes out this week, and so he got asked
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: about returning as Kimer. He said, I would love to
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: run it back. I love that character that franchised that team.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: If the fans want it, I'm down and ready to go.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Not really news he said this a bunch, but because
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: it's the Accolyte, I just we had to share this.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And honestly, I think that.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: With conversations surrounding even like Fantastic Four, learning that there
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: has been so much cut people like some of the
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: very first comments about Fantastic Four having a longer cut
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: was like, Zack Snyder fans.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: How do we get this to happen? Blah blah blah.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: And it's just like there was a huge, huge following
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: for of course Accolyte season two.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: And I will now that Zack Snyder's Justice League literally exists,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I cannot say, well, I can rightfully, so I don't
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: think I can fairly say.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: No, like this isn't gonna happen. Never say never.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: We've seen a pipe dream literally happen, so anything can happen,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: And especially like in the world, in a universe, in
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: a galaxy so immersed in other pieces of media like
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Star Wars, We've already gotten two novels in.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: The somewhat timespan window of The Acolyte.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: MHM.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Who's to say that we cannot get season two.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Of the Acolyte in some way, shape or form that
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: isn't the live action series.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Correct corect Yeah, and now I hate to backtrack this,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: but I was looking for the Daniel RpK Report, and
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: so I went on Star Wars news Net and I
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: found some additional details from the one and only Jeff Snyder.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Lovely the potential of Matt Smith's character, he said, and
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: this is so cheesy, but like, I can't blame him
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: for this. I'm told that the force won't be with Smith,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: who is playing some kind of military general in the film,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: which takes place five years after the events of Star
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Wars Episode nine, to the rest of Skywalker. He confirms
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: that na Goth will also be playing the villain, a
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: villain in this chasing after a teenage character who will
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: be protected by the film's protagonist, played by Ryan Gosling.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: So I mean even so, like I even said it myself.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Political through area not a bad thing.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I still think that Matt Smith is going
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: to eat up that. Guys look at me as long
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: as its character and he ate up that and that
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: was horrible he did.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: But I don't I needed to clarify this too. I
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: don't want that type of villain. He ate up the role,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: but it was poorly written, so it was poorly.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Now if it is correctly written well correct, I think
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: he could eat up the scene.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I have a little more faith with the
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: writing of Sean Levy than I did with Morbius exactly.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah but uh.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Going back to that list of potential rumors from the
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: rb K, it says here plans for the Post's episode
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: nine era or eight era or yeah sorry, nine era.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Have reportedly been revealed. It will be similar to the
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: Mando verse.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: With multiple stories. The first story will be Daisy Ridley's
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: new Jedi Order.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Which is interesting because Starfighter is shooting first and it's
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: in the same time frame.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, people always separate numerical movies from Star
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Wars stories.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: A Star Wars story exactly.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: And then the third bullet point on this is it
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: will build toward a culmination or culminating event that will
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: bring back old characters.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Now, which is interesting, I feel like because I feel
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: like they're doing the same thing with mandovers, so they're saying, Okay,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Nando work ish mm hmm, we can discuss that.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: Loop, so.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: It'll work with Post episode nine stuff and basically going, Okay,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: let's do the same exact thing. I don't necessarily mind
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: this take.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: I don't mind it either. But the only worry that
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: I have the old characters. No, no, no, it's the fact.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: It's the fact that Disney, especially with Star Wars, is
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: always trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice. Always
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: they're like, oh, that's perfect, Let's do it again. Oh
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: that's not perfect. Let's try it again for the first attempt. Okay,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: that's not good. Let's try it again. But this time
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be the third attempt. But we're still trying
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: to replicate that first attempt. Okay, that one was good,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: but it could be better. Let's try to do it again.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: And it's just like, guys, like, there is different ways
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: to tell a story. You don't have to stay on
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: this track of what you think success is for Star
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Wars yep. And that can be a big worry within
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: itself because if that first movie doesn't do well, I
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: know for a fact, Disney and Lucasfilm are gonna say, oh,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: that didn't work, throw it all away.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Yep. And it's especially sad when you look because like
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: even fantastic for right now, like you and Okay, this
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: is gonna jump all over the place. But I saw
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: a video about Resident Evil the other day, and I've
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: never seen the Resident Evil stuff. So I went on
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: a rabbit hole down Resident Evil because I thought it
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: looked interesting, and I was like, Okay, Resident Evil got
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: six movies with horrible, like not even close to similar results,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: better budgets, But in today's society, that would have gotten canceled.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Second movie.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: What the thing with Resident Evil was it had big
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: names at the time. Let's just go ahead and say
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: that again, big names for the time, and in that
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: pocket of the six movies there was this huge craze
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: for vampires, wear woes and zombies mm hm. And so
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: that's what was That's what Resident Evil was able to
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: ride the way for for those six films.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: And essentially Resident Evil had the almost same effect as
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: like Fast and Furious does, which I absolutely hate.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: It's the turn your brain off type of movie. Yeah,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: people are just like, ooh, this is fun.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: And just like throw their money away at But yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: if that was made today, it would get canceled. Which
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: is literally why every Resident Evil project since then has
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: been canceled after either the first movie and or the
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: first movie because they don't do great Now, yeah.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: It's it's just the way it is.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just it. It definitely sucks, and I
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: wish that they would go, okay, like, let's be willing
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to experiment, because the whole thing with Fantastic Four is like,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Fantastic Four was a decent movie and to most people
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: that would have gone, Okay, let's see where this goes.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: But with how harsh today's movie climate is, like, it
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: just gets cut off at the wayside, which is where
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I think studios really should reconsider the TV initiatives that
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: were going strong for four years. Because Matt and I
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: spent two hundred dollars to go to Superman between the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: tickets and the babysitter, and we went separately to Fantastic
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Four and that still cost us fifty bucks, Like yeah,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: so that's not something that like most families nowadays, especially
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: with inflation, can handle, and so integrating, Okay, we could
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: have a climactic movie, but recognizing, hey, movie theaters are
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: not going to bring you in the money that it
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: used to. Like if Matt and I could go back
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: to Regal unlimited we probably would, but that still doesn't
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: save us the babysitter cost every movie. So more like
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: more than likely Matt and I are going to go
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: back to Okay, we're waiting till things come to streaming,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: or we can rent it at our own pace kind
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: of thing. And I think that's what most families are
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: sticking with, and studios are going to recognize that four
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: years from now and go, Okay, what do we do
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: better now?
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: And it's well, especially like the well, I'm not entirely sure, Katie,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: because isn't.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: There well, no, no, just for the fact that isn't.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: There still like heavy reports that like there are some
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: streaming services that are now interested in buying like theater
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: chains and stuff like that. Maybe I can't remember that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I think that's a while. I need to look and
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: see again. It was either streaming services or studios that
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: were looking to build their own theaters, and I'm like,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's like going to solve the problem.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: But it's also.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: You know, making us learn that studios aren't learning their lesson,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: which is.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Why I said they're going to learn four years from
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: now that this isn't working instead of hey, let's look
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: at what's happening right now. Yeah, because right now all
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: fantastic foward to them is is tax recovery and money
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Like they're just going to take all that loss and
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: put it into the taxes.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very true.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: And we're to jump into our third ad, y'all. We promise,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: we'll be right back. We promise.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: And to go back to your first comment when I
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: when I said that, I, you know, was a little
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: worried about this. You mentioned the old characters, and I
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: think it was Chris in the g uh chat that
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: made this joke.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: He was like, oh yeah, old characters with AI.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I am a little worried, very little, because again I
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: did say in the Gua Geek first Crossover that with
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: the recasting that they did for and or for Bail Organa,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: that opens the door for Lucasfilm and Star Wars to say, hey,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: we're okay with recasting.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Yep, at least I hope so.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: And that's why I hope, like, hey, if all of
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: these people decide not to jump on board with this,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: that they can just be like, Okay, we will get
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: somebody new and they'll be your character, you know, because hell,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: even Kevin Feigey came out and said, hey, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: rebooting is a very scary word, but you know, eventually
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: we have to bring back some of these characters because
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: that's just how Marvel Comics is. And so we will
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: assume that these characters will be recast because Chris Evans,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Robert Jenny Junior, all of these other actors are not
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: going to be able to play these characters forever.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think the difference here, and it's something
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: that we go back to with Star Wars a lot,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: is it's a timeline. This is not Star Wars has
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: not been retold dozens of times from in the same
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: area like Marvel has. Marvel goes back and says, okay,
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: like time travel, Whibley Wobsley.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is status quo or whatever. Yeah.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Star Wars has not proven that that's a concept yet.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: And you could say, oh, well, they've done World between
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Worlds like that is a concept. I don't know if
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: they would take it to that extreme though, because even
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Dave Filoni, when Ezra and Ahsoka were in the World
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: between Worlds, Dave Filoni's stuck by, Hey, you can't pull
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Cannon out of this because otherwise stuff hits the fan like, yeah,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: so at least we know that Dave Filoni has set
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: that precedent, but he has also proven that his precedence,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: he learns and improves. So I don't really know what's
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: going to happen. I would hope the old characters that
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: they're talking about are sequel trilogy care that are still alive.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: That's what I assumed.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Also, by the way, guys, I assumed that if they
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: were in Rise of Skywalker mm hmm, then they will
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: be a part of.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: This new trilogy.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I don't think of anybody outside of Rise
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: of Skywalker mm hm, honestly, and.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people when you say old
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: characters though, that says, oh, we can pull anybody.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Han Luke Skywalker, you know all these Yeah, I understand
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: that with that though, like I I, I do hope
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: truly that they have learned their lesson.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: With the AI thing. I know that, you know, technically,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it was Disney or Lucasfilm.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: Separately, but of course you know, James Earl Jones signed
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: off on the AI version of his voice.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm, so they can continue to.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Use that for Darth Vader in any and all separate projects,
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: but like, outside of that, like I truly hope, like, hey,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: let's just move on from these characters that are too
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: old to play the roles that you wish to just
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: keep in a very timeless situation when that's not possible.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's all I gotta say about that.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: You got anything else, Katie, I do not.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna step away for a quick second and I
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: come back. We'll talk about a Crystal Crown. Yeah, all right,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: and this should be our final ad break. So y'all,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: thanks for bearing with us. We appreciate y'all. We'll be
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: right back. But Clay, are you ready to talk about
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Tessa Gratton's newest Star Wars book?
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I am ready.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: So The Crystal Crown Guys is a book by Tessa Gratton.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: It released last Tuesday, so the twenty ninth of July
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and Tessa Gratten, we interviewed about this book,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: said that she took a lot of inspiration from Hunger
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Games and wanted to try and bring that into Star Wars.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And I would say she killed it.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: It's funny that you say that because I have never.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Read any interviews with any of these writers. As I
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: was literally reading this, I sent you a text and
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I said, Wow, this is very Master and Apprentice, which
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: also had a ceremonial like event happened that was similar
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: to this. And then as I was reading like into
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: like the mid chapters, you know, fifteen to twenty eight,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I said to myself, Wow, now this is really starting
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: to feel like Hunger Games type stuff. So I'm glad
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: that what she inevitably wanted the feeling to be was
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: something that I literally felt. Yeah, so I think she
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: did nail it. I think it was just a perfect
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: way or perfect style of writing, especially for the two
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: characters that she wrote in here.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this book on the cover has uh Jackie
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: and Yord. And realistically though, I would say this book
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: is about.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: Jackie, yes, in our actual like talk about this, yeah.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ord still has his moments and he's like
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the secondary side character. Like, so we have Jackie Yrd
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: and then all of your other side characters involved and whatnot.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: And I don't mind that because I feel like in
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: The Acolyte, Jackie showed the most promise with her future
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: and so getting we still get to know about both
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: of them. But I liked. I liked getting more Jackie.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: In this mm hmm, I I liked it as well.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: There was moments here and I think I didn't put
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of No.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I didn't either. I only had time to read it once.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Uh same here, but I did have some notes here.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Let me see if I can actually find those notes.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: By the way, So in this, guys, there's basically like
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: three we come to this planet because there has been
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: issues with negotiations the planet. I can't I can't remember
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: the planet's name for the life of me.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, let me grab that also.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, So the planet produces a material that's necessary for
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: hyperspace travel, and so they want to join the Republic,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: and so the Republic has sent Jedi and political ambassadors
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: to this planet to try and negotiate the terms for
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Senate representation. YadA, YadA, YadA. And so the Jedi, the
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: previous representation to screwed up and he's stuck by the
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Jedi way of hey, we don't fight unless we absolutely
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: have to. This planet is very much a combated to
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: not combative, but like they want you to show strength.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: And this dual the Jedi was challenged was not to
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: the death, but it was against his standpoints, and so
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: the culture and the people were highly offended when this
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Jedi declined to fight the council member.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: I am seeing I am seeing the alien race, but
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not seeing the planet.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, say the race.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Uh Saline Celeni. Oh my gosh, I can't even pronounce it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how I was saying it in
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: my head when I was reading this. It's like s
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I L e in, It's like knees.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: But Selene. Let's just say Selene.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So somebody says here when I die here
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: on Saline, s I l I n e Saline.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, we could go with Saline. The audiobook is not
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: out yet, guys. It is not the end of October.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: So mad.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: I have I have voiced my frustrations with Katie earlier
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: last week about this. Uh, it is ridiculous, but it
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: is what it is.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: It is what it is, So what excuse us if
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: we mispronounced something because we don't know, we have no idea.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: So the Saline are basically a very warrior esque culture,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: and as time has progressed, they go, Okay, we don't
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: want to kill everybody, because that's just then going to
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: terrace apart. So they have changed rituals so that it
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: still shows strong the strong. It showcases the strong and
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: sets them up for success in the culture by becoming
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: future members of the Council, et cetera. And so there's
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: three trials, So we have the trial of strength, the
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Trial of survival in then the trial of the hunting basically,
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: and so d Yord and Jackie I was compating their
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: names get invited to participate as basically a way of
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: winning back the faith of these people. Yes, and that's
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: really all plot wise.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. I will say this, I
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: adored this book. The beginning took a little bit to
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: really kind of catched me. It was a bit a
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: little bit on the slow side.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: But once things started to really ramp up, once we
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: got to really meet our other three characters that our
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: heroes kind of surround themselves with.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Ye, and there are other.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Soliinese people, yeah, Selions is basically yeah, And I really
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: dug the way that we learned about the evolution of
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: these people and planet, because when we read any and
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: all other Star Wars books, it is always, hey, this
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: is what the planet is, and these are how the
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: planet and these how are the how the people are?
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: We never sit down and learn about the different species
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: in Star Wars, Yep, we got a history and that
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: was fun. I love this because also, guys, remember what
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: part of the timeline we were in, because there is
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: something like near closer, like I want to say, like
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: literally right at the beginning of the third act, like
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: right before the third act, at the tail end of
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: act two, there is a review.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, the blight shows up, and.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: It's not the consequences, it's.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: The remnants of the blight.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: It is what I what I absolutely love is we know,
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: because we've read Trouser of the Jedi, how that is
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: being dealt with, how that is correcting itself within the universe.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Now knowing that this book takes place one hundred years
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: after Trials of the Jedi.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Because they even said it, oh, you know, this is
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: what happened to this planet one hundred years ago. They
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: say that knowing that and knowing the blight is still around, Yeah, they.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Tessa Gratton are like, she's very artistically showcases that, Hey,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: we are seeing it heal and you can see new
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: growth populating on the edge. Like they call it the
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: badlands and so you can see that there's new growth
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: populating on the edges, and so it is healing.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: But it like the oh.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: Gosh, I can't remember the actual name of the Nameless.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna call them nameless if the name was
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: said on sofos Hey, this is going to take decades,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: if not centuries to recover. Like there is no immediate
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: fix to this. Like, so seeing that is really kind
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: of cool.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: It's the Shriek Ride by the way.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, duh, I knew that, but yeah, no.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: We kind of get like a of course a timeline,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: but like we asked ourselves when we finished that book,
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: how long is this going to take? Like is it
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: a rapid thing? Is it not a rapid thing? Well,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: we know that it's not around during this time of
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: the timeline, so like when is it finally finished and
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. So, like the crazy thing to think
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: about is the newer parts of Star Wars that we're watching,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: which is allah the Mando Worse and it's going to
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: be the the sequels trilogy. They could still show us
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: parts of the galaxy that are not fully healed, and
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: it would just blow our minds.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: And it would still make sense.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Because there is no actual verbiage of how long it'll
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: take yep, because of because we know Star Wars is
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: literally such a vast galaxy yeh, which I think is
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: really really fun and really really cool. One of my
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: notes is, uh Yrd has literally the funniest line in
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: this entire novel. We have a character here who is
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: like the most badass silent ease.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Her name is.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Uh Cia Cetia Satai. Uh let me actually grab that again.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Uh I both.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Have physical versions, which makes things.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Harder to t I A Setia.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: All right, y'all, we are gonna hit our first ad
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: break and we will be right back in three two one.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Cetilla is the daughter of basically the person in charge
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: of this planet uh currently the all Voice as they
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: call them. But she is also the strongest warrior and
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: but she's very flirtatious with with Yord.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: And first off, I want to I want to.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Say that this uh these people, uh, they are very
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: unique in the way that they're bodies are.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: They are crystalline. They have yes, little crystals in their bones.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: It's just the way they are as a race, and
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: so like they have these crystals in their teeth, they
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: have them around their eyes that have them protruding through
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: their heads like just everywhere. And she is like, she
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: has this like very flirtatious ness towards the RD every
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: single time she's around him.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: And there's at one moment she gets like really close
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: up to him, kind of caresses his chin.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: She's like, oh, I could kiss you, and he just says,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: dead stop, please don't. He just like it's just straight.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: The funny thing is is I can imagine that actor
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: in all of his awkwardness that he does seem like
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: in the ACTLTE and I could just see him just
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: dead face, please don't.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: I thought that was so funny. I laughed so hard.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: It was amazing. Still seeing her flirt with him after
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: it was hysterical.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: And I think she does it on purpose because, like
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: he I said this in our review of the act,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: like and I and I still hold true to that.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: In a sense, Yord is like Anakin Skywalker adjacent.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: Yep, he is very much that type of character.
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: But it's so funny to see somebody like an Anakin
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Skywalker be so flirtatious with that of Patame, but then
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: seeing Yord as much as he is like a stickler
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: for the rules and wanting to be the best Jedi
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: he could be. And so like when there's this person
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: that is like trying to like tease him and like
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: egg him on on certain things, I thought that was
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: so fun. It was just something to kind of ease
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: the tension in so many situations that they were in
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: in this book.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially getting to see how Yord was like
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: still being like a stickler, how she played on like, oh,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: he steams his robes. Like he's steaming his robes like
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: three or four times. That was everything.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: He was so like he was kind of a germophobe.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: I think he took like three or four baths in
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: this book.
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Uh, the entire time.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: And then like you see Jacky and you have to
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: remember these two individuals, Jord and Jackie. Uh, they're both
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Padawans at this time when we first meet your in
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: the Acolyte, he is not a Padawan.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: He is a Knight. We know that he is.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: He is a further along padawan in this book, but
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: he is like wanting to take his trials to become
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: a Knight. And that's kind of like a small like
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: b plot or maybe even see your d plot in
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: this book. Whereas Jackie, she's kind of fresh, she's new,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: she's learning a whole bunch of stuff, and she is
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: the type of character who.
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: Is very eager to learn.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, every little thing that she is introduced to on
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: this planet, she like meets it with a smile, and
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: she's very ant seen like giddy, and she's like, ooh,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: something new, Okay, teach me, teach me, teach me. She's
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: always asking questions and things like that. I really adore Jackie,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: of her so much I I would not mind another
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: story with Jackie.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, the down side, I'll go ahead and tell you this.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: So I had to look this up because so this
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: book takes place in one thirty four. Bby the Acolyte
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: takes place in one thirty two. There's not a lot
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: of time.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, there's another Jackie story.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: And that was the thing, guys. So one thing I
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: also wanted to bring up. I think I actually have.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I have the exact page number.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: Uh oh yeah.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: It took one hundred and thirty pages until the very
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: first mention of Osha. Osha was mentioned in this book
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: on page one hundred and thirty so again, we're just
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: trying to take those little, you know, seedlings from the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: actual source material. And then at the very end of
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: this book spoilers, Ord and Jackie are like, oh, yeah,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: let's do this when we're both Jedi knights, and I'm
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: just like, ah.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: And there was so many death jokes in here too,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: like Tesla plays around with them, yeah and.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Like, and they both say it. It's like, oh, okay, ye, like,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: we'll do this as long as it doesn't kill me. Okay,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: we'll do this as long as it doesn't kill me.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: And they both say it.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of dark humor uh in in that sense. So,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Tessa Gratton, I love you. We have the same mindset.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: We're good to go.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: It was it was fun.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Like it's a little you know, haha, play on words,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: wink kind of thing, and I appreciate that kind of thing,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: especially if, like, let's say, somebody who hasn't seen The
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Acolyte has decided, hey, I want to read some novels
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: in chronological order. Okay, let's read this book and then hey,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: let's watch The Acolyte and be like, bro, what I
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: would love that for somebody.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: My gosh.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: So another note, that I have is oh, I already
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: said that this is very much Master and Apprentice coded.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: I loved all of the combat.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Again talking about the evolution of these people learning that Okay,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: well we aren't permitted to kill, but as long as
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: you bleed, you're out.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: Like we're in with that, right.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: And one of the big things that we have not
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: mentioned in these in this thing called the Convocation, Ord
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: and Jackie were permitted not only to get on the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: good graces of this planet for the Republic, but you know,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: people were like, well, they're Jedi, they're paddle ones. That's
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: a little unfair if they if they are the ones
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: to be in this, and they're like, okay, we're gonna
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: take away your lightsabers and you can't use the force yep.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: And that's a big deal for both of these characters.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I would say it's a bigger deal for Yord than
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: it is because he wants to play by the rules, right,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: and so he's told this, but he struggles with it.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: And and that's why I say both because there's a
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: moment where Yord is like this isn't fair, like well,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: you know, technically, blah blah blah, and like there's like
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: almost this argumentative like internal thing.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: With Yord that's like, oh, well, you know, it's a natural.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Thing and blah blah blah blah, whereas with Jackie, she's
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: like cool. Like, to begin with, I will say this,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: to begin with, Jeckie is on.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: Board with everything.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: The only thing that they're both not cool with immediately
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: is the absence of the lightsaber.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because and I think it was good for them
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: to not have this and go, Okay, what can I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: do to solve it without it?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: Well, I think personally, oh go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: No, go ahead, Well, I think it was good to
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: not have it personally because there is a moment like
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: a really like it's one of those moments like for
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: those of you who have seen that of like Superman,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: it is almost like the bridge scene where you get
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: all goosebumps and like, ah, so in this book, there's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: a moment wh when a lightsaber is finally.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Used and you're just like.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Like I got so excited, I got so pumped, and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and like kind of tease it.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: The moment is Jackie throws the lightsaber to yourd.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, I don't need it, and then
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: she starts using the Force, and that's what I'm more
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: like giddy and excited about, yeah, because it's like she
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: goes super Saiyan, like she she was holding all of
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: this in and she's like, this isn't even my final
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: form and she starts using it, and that was a
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: really big thing for her. Is like it her with
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: the way that she is as an individual, you see
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: her in the very beginning. Like that's because there's also
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: like I'm getting all of these other like pop culture
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: references into this book Far from Home, Spider Man, the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Peter Tingle when he's on the bridge and he's using
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: the Spider scenes for the very first time, like legitimately,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: there's a moment like Jackie is using the Force like that,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm just like, ah, this is so cool. But
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: in that scene where they're fighting this like crazy monster creature,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: she's like, screw it, Like I know that there's probably
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: cameras out here that are gonna see me using the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Force right now, but in this instance, I have to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: use it or we're all gonna die. And so she
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: throws the lightsaber to Yord and she just like lets
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: it all in. She starts to feel her surroundings to do.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: Like, it was so cool. I absolutely love that scene.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: It was the best and Gotten did an incredible job
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: with that moment, especially, like it was one of my
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: favorite moments of the book. I'm sitting there like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Like it's just so good. We have to talk about
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: the graph in this book.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: He is a pretty vague part of they sorry, You're
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent correct. They are a very big part
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: of this story. And I love how they.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Call upon their like history with Jackie and like, because
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: everybody knows a graph, right, everybody.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Knows a graph.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: And they explained to Jackie it's like, oh, well, they
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: everybody knows a graph because of politics, because of lots
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: of money, because of all of this, because of murder.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: And she's like, oh, but you can't prove it or
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: can't and like that freaks her out even more. Like
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: I love that because it was a play on what
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: we've seen in the past, what we've seen in the future.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: And also.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: It makes them a little bit less trustworthy immediately.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Yep, because you're sitting there thinking, Oh, if you've read
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: the higher public books, you're like, wait, but it's a graph.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: I know not to trust graphs, but like, why do
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: I like them so much?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: Exactly?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: I was?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: I was so like because also, uh, I think their
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: actual name because in the entire book they refer to
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: themselves as Lio mm hmm, but I believe Master Soul
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: does say their name at the very end.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, I think it's like Lion nine, Yeah.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, lion nine. They rios ryos.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: How do you say gross? It's r h O s ros.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, So Rose is the younger sibling of Sataria. Yes,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: and Lyo and ros are like a thing?
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, now correct me if I'm wrong? Rose, Did I
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: read this incorrectly? Non binary?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: I got confused because I Rose had he pronouns at
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: one point and then she pronounces at one point, but.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: Jackie acknowledged it, like did you like?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: There was there was a part where Jackie was like, actually,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: both Jackie and Yrd kind of like grimaced, as in like, oh,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: hold on, we thought, and they kind of brushed it aside.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: And then when Satari was like explaining something, Jackie had
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: like an internal thought of like, well, how does she
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: know how to present their sister?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: Because at that point they were saying her.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: So like I kind of feel like it might have
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: been something like a non binary situation.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could go either way. I'm definitely going to
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: have to reread, and I'm excited to get the audiobook
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: because I always get the pronouns a little bit better
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: when I have the audio book, because especially as a
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: scan reader, I like, I remember reading she and then
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I remember reading he, and I'm.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: Like, wait, wait it is saggot.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is that just my brain or is there a
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: connection here?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was definitely a situation where they acknowledged the switch.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: So I would also so like to listen to that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: audiobook to get a better understanding of that. But ros
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: Leo and Jeckie are like the three best friends in
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: this book. Yeah, I love the way they interacted because
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: they met there, they all met each other with the
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: same energy, but also like when it was time to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: like get down and serious, they were all ready to
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: be serious, which I also liked. I'm trying to think,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: how did you feel about the Masters? Of course we
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: know Master's soul, but we also got introduced to your's
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: master else Elsie or.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: Hold On, hold On, hold On, hold on Elshie Elsie.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: I was like, I know there's an h in there somewhere.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Alishi s h Yeah, Alishi. I enjoyed both masters. Obviously
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: they're are secondary characters, but I like I Soul feels
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: like a continuation from the act, like he feels very standard.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Alushi super interesting. I love how she plays off of
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Jord so much.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: I really love that as well.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: It is basically like I truly can see there being
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: a situation where Yoda was like Master Alishi, mm hmm,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: you should really considered your as your padawan, and like
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: She's like, well, I wasn't even thinking about that. Doesn't
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: the force you leave and like him kind of just
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: nudging Yord towards her because of how different they are.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: Because I because.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: Like there's a moment where like Yord is kind of
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: in his like powdy phase of the book, and like
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: he meets Master and at lastian Master Soul, and like
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: she gives him a face as if to say like, hey,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: don't be mad, or hey don't show that you're mad,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: because she has known him so well.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: I really dug that I.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: Would I would also like to see probably like some
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: early years of them too, like in a short story
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: or something. I would like to see that meeting of
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: them but also I wanted to go back because I
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: you probably do want to talk about graph a little
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: bit more.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Lio.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: Lio was a very interesting character because they were a
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: graph they.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: Were born in Selene, and there is this like weird,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: like almost racial.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah context between them as a graph a humanoid.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: And the Selinese people.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Graphs are human, but Lio has taken
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: on some modifications to make themselves look more Selenese. Yes,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: and so because they want that acceptance, and there is
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: some Selene that choose to accept them as Selene, but
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: then there's others very standard, especially in America, where they're
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: just like, no, you're a human, you don't belong here
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: kind of thing. And so loo hope is that, Hey,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: the convocation is my chance to show that I love
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: my homeworld and like that I am truly a Selene.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: And so we won't reveal like the villain of the
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: story because there is like a climax scene at the end.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: When we get off, when we get off of this stream,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: I have a question for you for the last part,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: because there is there is some burbage that is said
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: that I was like, hold on a second, I just
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 3: read the last chapter. That's not what happened, so I want,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: I want to know your thoughts on that, but we
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: we will say that.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: Off stream because we do want of course, we always
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: say this when we're reading these books.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: We will you know, talk spoilers, but we do want
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: to leave some of the juicier stuff in there for
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: you guys to read yourself and.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Enjoy, especially because this book just came out so and
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: I know, like most of the time we review books
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: and it's done beforehand before it ever releases, but like
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: especially now because we've only gotten the chance to read
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: it once. It's it's a magical book that has a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: lot of cool moments, and Tessa Gratten does an incredible
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: job making sure you laugh at the right moments, but
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: then they're like ooh at the right moments as well. Yeah,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Like I was so impressed with her first solo outing
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: in young adult territory for Star Wars.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that about this book because there is
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: a moment for every character.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: That you kind of have that with. Of course, with
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: the you know kind.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: Of explanation that I gave you guys of Jackie wanting
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: to be that like very fun, very excited to learn
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: type of character, there is a lot of times where
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: she is really giddy and actually giggling because she's excited
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: to be there. But then like, one one small little
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: detail that I'm okay with sharing is the fact that like.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go into our second ad break and we'll
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: be right back.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: They as a people are stuck in this forest jungle thing, right,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: and so for who knows how long, and so the
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: only way they can survive is of course hunting and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: or salvaging berries and fruits.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: And all of these other things. And they had a
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: conversation with both Jackie and Jord about the idea of.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: Vegetarianism killing for survival, and they were kind of teasing
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Yord and Jackie, but Yord was kind of more vocal
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: about it. He's like, I just I'm not for this,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Like I don't think you should need to kill in
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: order to survive. But like every single time they kind
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: of like looked at Jackie to like offer something, she
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: kind of just like gave this like sickening face like no,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: I'm good, Like no, I'm okay, yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Because Jackie. I think Jackie is like that explore, oh
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: my gosh, exploratory vegetarian who's like I want to know
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: the process, but I don't want to know everything, like
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: I don't want the experience. Like, so I liked that
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: that they showcased two different sides of the coin, and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there's anything else. This is
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: a very easy breed, but it didn't feel tropy, it
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: didn't feel simplified. It Tessa Gratten really nailed all of
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: the elements I feel like of a true young adult
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: story you see so much nowadays where there's young adult fantasy,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: but then there's like sex scenes in it and stuff,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: and then it's like, yeah, like this feels very young adults.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of the genres recently that I have
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: been seeing online and kind of reading myself that are
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: getting too melded together. And I think it's more so
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: because there's so many authors that are wanting to graph
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: so many readers.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: Whereas this I am okay with.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: Like, when Amberlyn is starting to really get into reading
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: chapter books, this is a book that I am willing.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: For her to read.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this book has uh Like one of one
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: of my favorite parts of this book is the big twist,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: and Tessa Gretton writes it so well and so smoothly
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: and then doesn't address it for a little bit, which
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: I normally hate because I have I have said this
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: plenty of times on almost every single reviewing podcast I've
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: ever been a part of. I hate non linear stories.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: It's like it's so much easier when you just say
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: A B C one plus two is three, you know,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: and this, like I I really had a lot of
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: fun with it, because again, we are here to learn
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: about an entire planet and an entire people, and that's
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: what made it enjoyable, which I do kind of wish
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: that like more Star Wars did that, because again, like
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: I said in the beginning of this review, there's so
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: many moments where we're in pockets of a planet and
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: saying like, hey, we're only going to be here for
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: a little bit, so we don't need to learn too
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: much about it.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: But then there's like something like really cool that happens.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: You're like, I want to learn more about that, and
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: it's like, Nope, we're just going to move on, whereas
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: here we're we're here the entire time.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to accomplish the world building of Star
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: Wars while also accomplishing the world building of the planet.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: That you're visiting because and this is like one of
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: the differences I found with Legends. For instance, Legends kind
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: of stuck to the same planets and so you never
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: really had to go back and introduce a new planet.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: You just kind of had to introduce the villain of
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: the story and their home and everything, whereas here most
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: of Star Wars has chosen to go to different planets
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: in each book. And so some authors really nailed that
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: and really nailed that individual world building along with the
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Star Wars world building, and some haven't. And I'm happy
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: to say test the grat and nailed both.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: So yeah, now after this, I will say I will
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 3: probably go ahead and go back to the galaxy map
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: the sea find Sealine, Yeah, just to see if they
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: had it in there, knowing that this book was going
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: to be publicized.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I need the bookmark.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, Sam, I need to do the same thing the.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: Star Wars galaxy done. Okay, let's see explore more. Let's look, No, Apple,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: I really don't want to verify my Apple account right now.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know why you're asking me.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: I wonder if because I didn't do this before. Let's see,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: Oh it doesn't. I was like can I control f.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: It and see you can control f the appendix?
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: Oh I can. Okay, hold on, let me go to
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: the appendix.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: Then I told you that before. Okay, So we have
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: i'ma don't see it. We have Sylvestry, Silver Sere, Celuria.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Well maybe it's this guy Salun.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: As well part of the UH map.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Are you on UH page forty seven?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah?
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: But either way, Like I, I think that it's still
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: a very fun concept for them to be expanding this universe.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: I think eventually, like I do, think editorial should tell
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: them to be like, hey, let's let's let's step back.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: On the you know, creating new worlds.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: Let's jump into some of the ones that we haven't
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: really explored a whole lot of. Because you can't tell
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: me that every single one of these planets have been explored.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: To its fullest, you know. Yeah, So I think that's
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: gonna be fun for the future of Star Wars nobilizations.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: But is there anything else?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 6: I don't think so, and she muted, Okay, I don't
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: know why I'm choking on my water. U.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: But yeah, guys, that's gonna be it for our review.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: Like we always say, go out and enjoy this book
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: on your own. There is so much here that we
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: did not talk about, some of the juicier stuff that
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: is really really fun, and of course, like we said,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: the big twist of this book was also really really fun.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: So with that, guys, of course, you can always find
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: me at fanboy Clay.
• 1:25:29
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  Speaker 3: on my reading journey. I have finally sat down, got
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: my crap together and started reading again.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: Of course, finish this book.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: We have another Legends conversation coming up this month for
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: you guys, which I've already started, and of course our
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: Patreon series has also been something that I've also started
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: for this month.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: More on that, y'all.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: We're talking up a new Jedi order.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: I love it, yeah, so go check that out again.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: We have said that we are probably not going to
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: release that for a while unless there is a time
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: where we both need either a break or an emergency
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: happens and whatnot, and you can at least get that
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: first episode, so we will wait and see.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: But Katie. Where can the Lovely People listeners find you?
• 1:26:49
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• 1:27:26
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