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True Crime Documentary - A Double Life： Brian Steven Smith · The Evolution of Evil - True Crime Stories

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: I actually feel uncomfortable around too many white people. I
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: find out I'm bonding closer with the natives, the Lesker natives.
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  Speaker 2: Really, so, do you have a pension for Native women
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: who are homeless in crisis? It's been called the memory
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  Speaker 2: Card murder. A brutal homicide found on a stolen cell phone,
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  Speaker 2: the victim dying on a hotel room floor, the killer
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  Speaker 2: mocking her in a distinctive.
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  Speaker 3: Accent camera pitch.
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  Speaker 2: There's at one point blood coming from both sides of
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  Speaker 2: her mouth while the killer is sexually molesting her.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't sexually molestic her. He was poking his fingers
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  Speaker 1: on her boob.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, is that not sexual molestation in your mind?
• 1:03
  Speaker 3: It depends on the woman.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: I've always suspected that some people aren't at all who
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: they appear to be. To his wife, Brian Stephen Smith
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: was a loving husband to the Marriotte hotel staff. He
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  Speaker 2: was a good colleague to his mistress. He was a
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  Speaker 2: spinner of dark sexual fantasies. But to Kathleen Henry, an
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  Speaker 2: Alaska Native living on the streets of Anchorage, Brian Stephen
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  Speaker 2: Smith was a stranger who offered a warm bed and
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  Speaker 2: then did something monstrous.
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  Speaker 4: Good evening.
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  Speaker 5: We're learning more tonight about the weeks surrounding the hotel
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  Speaker 5: killing of thirty year old Kathleen Henry.
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  Speaker 6: Thirty nine photos and twelve videos show in graphic detail
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  Speaker 6: the final hours of a dark haired woman. Y SD
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  Speaker 6: card where the files were stored was labeled at Midtown Marrion.
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  Speaker 3: She was like, I'll beat up. I mean, her face
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  Speaker 3: was not even recognizable.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Stephen Smith was found guilty in February twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 2: of murder, sexual assault, and misconduct involving a corpse.
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  Speaker 4: How are we doing that?
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  Speaker 2: We're good, okay, And now, for the first time, he
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  Speaker 2: has agreed to tell me his story and to answer
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  Speaker 2: for these crimes.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Brian, we're.
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  Speaker 2: Here because we really want to understand the mindset and
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  Speaker 2: motivations behind your actions in this case. Okay, tell me
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  Speaker 2: why are you here today talking to.
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  Speaker 3: Us because you asked me to.
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  Speaker 4: You could have said no, but you agreed. Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well I've I have my side of the story as
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  Speaker 3: well that I'd like to get out.
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  Speaker 1: You want to be heard, Yes, I have to get
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  Speaker 1: something out on my side.
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  Speaker 3: At least.
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  Speaker 2: Smith's side starts when he met a woman who lived
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  Speaker 2: very far away from his native South Africa. You had
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  Speaker 2: found love late in life with an older woman, right it, Stephanie?
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  Speaker 4: Tell me about her.
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  Speaker 1: So we actually met playing a game on Internet and
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  Speaker 1: we became friends and we started talking outside of the game.
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  Speaker 2: The folk singer from Anchorage fell hard and fast for
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  Speaker 2: Smith just as his life hit rock bottom.
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  Speaker 1: In South Africa. Things actually got to a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a bad point. I got into a business dealer that
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  Speaker 1: just been so and I lost a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: And it's almost like everything just made sense, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just back up and leave.
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  Speaker 3: You've got nothing to lose you anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Take me back to the first time you step foot
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  Speaker 2: in this rather stunning land.
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  Speaker 4: What did you feel? What did you think?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It's the first time I've been out of South Africa.
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  Speaker 4: He's eating your plants.
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  Speaker 2: With camera in hand. Smith took to the Alaskan wilds
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  Speaker 2: and began shooting videos.
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  Speaker 3: This is the beaver dam.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if this go broke and pick it up,
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  Speaker 7: but there's a little beaver house over there.
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  Speaker 3: It's very similar to Africa.
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  Speaker 1: You've got the civilized and then you've got the whole
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  Speaker 1: ethnic rule indigenous side. Of things that are living in
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  Speaker 1: an absolute, totally different world to what we live in.
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  Speaker 4: Are there many South Africans in the Anchorage area.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's two or three or four.
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  Speaker 4: There might be more, but maybe a handful. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It also seems like a good place for a secret life,
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  Speaker 2: if that's what you're looking for. Nobody knows you. There's
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  Speaker 2: lots of space. One could lose themselves in kind of
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  Speaker 2: withdrawal from the world here if one wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you could. You're correct.
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  Speaker 1: You can go get yourself little cabin and you never
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  Speaker 1: have to deal with humans again, right right.
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  Speaker 2: Whether Smith was looking for a second life or a
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  Speaker 2: secret one in Alaska, he struggled to fit into Stephanie's world.
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  Speaker 4: Are you still married?
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  Speaker 1: I signed the divorce papers about two months ago. Stephanie's
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  Speaker 1: a very social person and she's got groups of friends
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  Speaker 1: that are in theater and music. I thought, yes, I
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  Speaker 1: could do it, but then it was just too much
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  Speaker 1: for me. They're all trying to be nice, right, But
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  Speaker 1: that did cause a bit of a problem with us.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well but let let's let's be let's be frank. Right,
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  Speaker 2: she was she was an older woman. You were still
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  Speaker 2: quite young, and you had a rolling eye and soon
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  Speaker 2: an affair right with someone who shared a certain lust
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  Speaker 2: for sexual adventure?
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  Speaker 4: Was that fair?
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  Speaker 2: Alicia Enter Alicia Youngblood, a young woman Smith met at work.
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  Speaker 2: Smith told police they started off as drinking buddies. Then
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  Speaker 2: things progressed, this crazy sixth thing.
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  Speaker 1: It was just something that was happening, and I delved
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  Speaker 1: into it. It was interesting for me that I had
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  Speaker 1: someone that I could do something and they would respond
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  Speaker 1: to it. Actually, that's I think that's what the main
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  Speaker 1: thing is. She was responsive to it.
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  Speaker 4: You say there was a bit of rough stuff, right.
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  Speaker 2: She liked to be slapped around, a little choked, suffocated, Yes, but.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't every time.
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  Speaker 1: She liked to see and yeah, stories about violence.
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  Speaker 3: That turned her on. That's what got the engine going.
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  Speaker 2: And this is all illicit, which probably made it even
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  Speaker 2: more exciting, right because you were.
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  Speaker 3: Married, Well, yes, the secrecy thought of geese.
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  Speaker 2: Soon It sounds like the two of you were trying
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  Speaker 2: to outdo each other and coming up with mock sexual
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  Speaker 2: and violent role play scenarios.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, she would tell me about her criminal history. I
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  Speaker 1: knew they were not true stories. She was told me
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  Speaker 1: that she's been chased across America about the FBI, and
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  Speaker 1: she was part of a gang that used to rob banks.
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  Speaker 1: That's not real, but but that's where the whole murder
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  Speaker 1: things started coming in.
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  Speaker 4: So and you played along.
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  Speaker 1: So one day I said to her, well, well I've
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  Speaker 1: also killed somebody, you know, so I've also got a story,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: And it turned on massively.
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  Speaker 4: It worked.
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  Speaker 3: She loved pretend and making up stories like it.
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  Speaker 1: If any woman goes to any man and says say
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  Speaker 1: this or do this, and I'll get warn that guy's
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  Speaker 1: going to do.
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  Speaker 4: It by day.
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  Speaker 2: Smith says he and his wife kept up a loving,
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: if passionless marriage. It sounds like you did sort of
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  Speaker 2: slip into a kind of a double life. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the Brian who's the dutiful husband on the street and narrow,
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  Speaker 2: and then on the other hand, a reckless kind of
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  Speaker 2: alter ego, right, the one who would drive into the
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: night looking for cheap sex. By night, Smith would troll
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  Speaker 2: the streets of Anchorage in his black pickup truck.
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  Speaker 1: I did go out, but it wasn't for going out
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  Speaker 1: for sex. Basically, I was having a very stressful life,
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  Speaker 1: and I would drink a glass of whiskey just before bedtime.
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  Speaker 1: Then that would be midnight, and if that didn't knock
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  Speaker 1: me out sometimes it would give me that you get
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  Speaker 1: your second race, now, give a little energy from being
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  Speaker 1: I said, oh, now I need to go driving.
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  Speaker 4: It was probably.
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  Speaker 8: About nine thirty at night, okay. And he pulls up
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  Speaker 8: and I was homeless, lout intent and it was raining
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  Speaker 8: that night, and then he goes, well, it's raining.
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  Speaker 4: Do you want to ride around with me?
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  Speaker 8: You know?
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  Speaker 4: And I was like sure.
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  Speaker 2: Valerie Castler was on the street one night when Smith
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  Speaker 2: drove by. He told her he was looking for a
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  Speaker 2: certain young working girl and asked her to help. You
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  Speaker 2: know the streets. Yeah, and I'm sure you're a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good judge of character.
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  Speaker 4: What was your first impression?
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  Speaker 3: He was nice.
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  Speaker 8: We went everywhere. We hung out at like out of
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  Speaker 8: the airport and watched the planes and stuff. I was
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  Speaker 8: with him til like about five six in the morning,
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  Speaker 8: all night long.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: When Smith stopped at a gas station to use the ATM,
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  Speaker 2: Castler found herself alone in his car.
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  Speaker 8: That's when I dropped my phone in the car in
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  Speaker 8: his truck.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were in the past of the front passenger.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And when I reached down, I grabbed cheophones and
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  Speaker 8: you hit like that ooh, chill feeling.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you just got a vibe from it, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: a feeling.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, was not right.
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  Speaker 2: With Smith still inside, Castler pocketed his cell phone, a
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  Speaker 2: decision on which the entire case would hinge.
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  Speaker 8: I went back to my chant and I turned it on,
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  Speaker 8: looking to see if I recognize any phone numbers, or
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  Speaker 8: if I recognize anybody on the pictures. And that's when
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  Speaker 8: I found it.
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  Speaker 3: In Govich, that's.
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  Speaker 4: The Sick Mother.
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  Speaker 2: In the fall of twenty nineteen, in a tent in
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  Speaker 2: the woods around Anchorage, Alaska, Valerie Castler took out a
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  Speaker 2: phone she had stolen from Brian Stephen Smith's carr and
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  Speaker 2: press play in each of Govich, What did you say?
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  Speaker 4: It first?
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  Speaker 8: Him talking and on his voice. In her body laying
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  Speaker 8: on the on the floor of the hotel.
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  Speaker 4: She was alive though of them.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And he stepped on her throat and he said,
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  Speaker 8: you're not leaving here alive.
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  Speaker 4: I'm killing you, sake.
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  Speaker 3: Are you still alive?
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  Speaker 8: I watched all of it and pulled out a wire,
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  Speaker 8: put it around her neck, and she was dead and
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  Speaker 8: he was still doing things to her for days.
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  Speaker 4: Castila refused to leave her tent.
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  Speaker 2: You stayed in the woods because.
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  Speaker 8: You were paranoid as hell.
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  Speaker 4: You scared.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But she worked up the courage to turn the
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  Speaker 2: videos over to the police.
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  Speaker 10: It was the hardest thing I've ever had to watch
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  Speaker 10: in my life, not just.
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  Speaker 4: Being as a police officer.
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  Speaker 10: This was the worst thing I've ever seen happened to
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  Speaker 10: a human being.
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  Speaker 2: Detective Brendan Lee had a colleague who overheard the videos
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  Speaker 2: and the distinctive voice.
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  Speaker 10: He recalled a case that he had worked that involved
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  Speaker 10: a mail with an accent, and he gave me the
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  Speaker 10: name Brian Stephen Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Lee checked the Marriotte guest list from the night of
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  Speaker 2: the videos and sure enough.
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  Speaker 10: To see his name on there. It was kind of
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  Speaker 10: like a yeah, like you said, like a big ah moment,
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  Speaker 10: like Okay, now I know who we're looking at.
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  Speaker 2: Then, just days after police got the video.
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  Speaker 5: Human remains found at mile one away to the Stewart
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  Speaker 5: Highway a week ago belonged to a woman who had long,
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  Speaker 5: dark hair, with a.
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  Speaker 2: Prime suspect and a body to match. The race was
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  Speaker 2: on to gather evidence.
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  Speaker 10: The FBI told us ay his phone is hitting off
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  Speaker 10: a tower year a mile one away.
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  Speaker 3: The Steward Highway.
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  Speaker 10: And also there was a time stamp on one of
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  Speaker 10: the images with Kathleen Joe Henry in the back of
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  Speaker 10: the pickup truck, and that was also like an AHA
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  Speaker 10: moment because his phone's hitting here at this time. This
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  Speaker 10: image is at this time, and it's at the location
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  Speaker 10: where the remains were found.
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  Speaker 2: Detectively intercepted Smith at the Anchorage Airport, turning from a
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  Speaker 2: trip with his wife.
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  Speaker 10: Mister Smith, I'm detectively Banglish Police Department.
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  Speaker 3: I want saying my badge. Yeah, IDs, you know you're
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: ted list to detective partners.
• 15:35
  Speaker 10: We have some some matters we wanted to clear up
• 15:37
  Speaker 10: with you and talk to you today. So I appreciate
• 15:39
  Speaker 10: you coming up here with these guys and talking to me.
• 15:43
  Speaker 10: So you have the right to remain silent. Do you
• 15:44
  Speaker 10: understand that you have the right to talk to a
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  Speaker 10: lawyer and have him present with you while you're being questioned.
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  Speaker 4: Do you understand that.
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  Speaker 2: Smith tells me that afternoon the police caught him off guard.
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  Speaker 3: I just found all the way from DC. Yeah, you've
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: obviously from Lower Fodage.
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  Speaker 4: You know what it feels like now.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I threw four time zones across a ten hour flight
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  Speaker 1: when I landed, when they stopped me, I was already
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  Speaker 1: in the legal terms of the words I use.
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  Speaker 3: It is in a weakened state of mind.
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  Speaker 2: When you're under investigation for serious crimes, you don't get
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  Speaker 2: to pick you know, I know.
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  Speaker 4: Before an interrogation.
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  Speaker 10: I just wanted to show you pictures TJ would help
• 16:26
  Speaker 10: you kind of refresh that night.
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  Speaker 2: The detectives start small, without letting on how much they
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: already know about the killer sitting in front of them.
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  Speaker 4: Can you tell me what's in that photo?
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  Speaker 3: There's somebody's feet.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, I'm not gonna issue it. I mean, it looks
• 16:44
  Speaker 10: looks like the shoes you were in right.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, it does. But what's happening when that's.
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  Speaker 10: What's happening is on this video, on these images the
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  Speaker 10: person that's recording it is holding the recorder and is
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  Speaker 10: standing basically above this girl and strength her.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, and so we need to talk about this.
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  Speaker 10: We need to get ahead of this.
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  Speaker 7: Mister Smith, I do I don't want to ask stupid,
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  Speaker 7: but I don't trum off anything.
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  Speaker 4: I don't anything.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, boy, an hour and a half I said I
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  Speaker 3: didn't do that. I didn't do that. I didn't do that.
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  Speaker 3: Over and over and over, in and nauseam.
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  Speaker 2: I said that you're not saying that, you're saying you're
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  Speaker 2: you're saying that you can't remember.
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  Speaker 4: I should not remember anything like this.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, that looks like a Marriott court. That looks up
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  Speaker 3: my truck talked over there.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Piece by piece detectives disclose photo evidence, Smith's hands, his stomach,
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  Speaker 2: Smith's truck, and license plate.
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  Speaker 10: There's cameras out on the highway at the way station.
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  Speaker 10: So there's no doubt about it. There no doubt about
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  Speaker 10: it that you were out there.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, but I don't remember anything else.
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  Speaker 4: Radio. Sorry. Then about two hours in Smith starts to crack.
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  Speaker 7: Look this this sounds very serious. No matter what, I'm
• 18:14
  Speaker 7: gonna be in deep. So okay, I'll tell you what
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  Speaker 7: I remember. The next day it worked. I saw something
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: dropping out the back of my truck and I was like,
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: what the hell? And I opened up and there was
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: somebody there underneath that.
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  Speaker 4: There was a blue like a talk with the back
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  Speaker 4: of my of my truck, and.
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: The back flip doesn't really look I've actually put a
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: pedal up on now since then. And I saw somebody
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  Speaker 7: and I was like, what.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: The hell, what must I do? What wants to do?
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  Speaker 11: And being the one art, I thought, but I've got
• 18:59
  Speaker 11: to get a cant and I drove out and I
• 19:03
  Speaker 11: did within doubt it, So yeah I did. I did,
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  Speaker 11: dun but I.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was in the back of my truck was not.
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  Speaker 3: Kathleen Henry.
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  Speaker 2: You're saying that you didn't keep the body in your
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: truck for two days and then dump around the side
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: of the road as you were counted the police.
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  Speaker 1: Well, when I said to the police the body, it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: because the police had told.
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  Speaker 3: Me that there was a body in the back of
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  Speaker 3: my truck. I did not know what was in the
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: back of my truck. There was something I.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Told them that you looked under the sheet could tell
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  Speaker 4: the body. You told them that.
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  Speaker 1: It was not a body it was I've seen a
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: YouTube once of a baker that was skinned and it
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  Speaker 1: looked in my mind xtra vision through that that's what
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  Speaker 1: that could have been.
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  Speaker 3: Or it was a mannequin or like a sex dollar
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  Speaker 3: or something.
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  Speaker 2: It's somebody who's incapable of telling the truth.
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  Speaker 4: Brian.
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  Speaker 1: The problem is when I speak the truth, people don't
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  Speaker 1: believe me.
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  Speaker 10: I think Brian Steve Smith is a person that I'd
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: say he's a sociopath. You know, if you looked at
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: his life, he would just look like.
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  Speaker 4: You're normal every day.
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  Speaker 10: You know, I go to work, I come home, this
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  Speaker 10: is my wife, We go on vacations and I you know,
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: I play with drones and like to shoot guns for
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: my hobbies. You know, I wouldn't say split personality, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: he was definitely somebody that knowingly was trying to, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: live two different types of lifestyles.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: For police, the double life of Brian Stephen Smith now
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: comes into sharp focus.
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  Speaker 12: If any other Facebook accounts the cart just Brian Smith.
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  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I've the one called Brandie Phillips.
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  Speaker 3: He's a real He's like my alter ego.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: He's racist. You know, you can make racist jokes and
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: stuff on this.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Smith's alter ego offers police a new strategy.
• 21:12
  Speaker 12: Do you think Good Brian wanted Bad Brian to get caught?
• 21:16
  Speaker 12: That's why somebody made it so easy for us.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: They urge good Brian to confess to what bad Brian
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: has done.
• 21:24
  Speaker 12: Right now, Good Brian, I'm assuming, is who we have here.
• 21:26
  Speaker 12: What do you feel right now about this moment?
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: Well, she's a pretty girl and she ended up like that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: That's that's such a.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Waste, so annoying.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Several hours in, Smith seems to sense the net tightening
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: around him.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: But I'm showing the back of my mind.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: I knew that I was involved in some ways.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: It's stupid to believe that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Someone else kills someone and put them in the badge truck.
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: You knew in the back of the head, the side
• 21:55
  Speaker 12: of your head, front of your head, you knew you
• 21:56
  Speaker 12: would kill somebody.
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I can tell you for a straight fact, I
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: did not plan to do this.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, I've done it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: That's that's I've done. I've I've done that.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I'll sign up the paper years I did it.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I know I did it. Before we do that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: With Smith's full throated confession in hand, the detectives think
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: they're done.
• 22:19
  Speaker 10: You just have to get somebody.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: And then Smith drops the biggest bomb of the case.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Are you guys in the rush?
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Were gone? Are we in a rush? Yeah? Do you
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: want to talk some more? We're not in a rush.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: We got you got all my I picked up a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: very drunk girl.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: My wife was gone, she was away for the weekend,
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: not to go home, and I I tried to.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: M Are you guys in a rush to go?
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Are we in a rush? Yeah? Do you want to
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: talk some more? We're not in a rush. We got
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: we got all night.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Five hours into a police interrogation, Brian Stephen Smith had
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: already confessed to the murder of Kathleen Henry.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: If I'm going to burn on the electric chair for
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: why not as well do for two?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Then Smith volunteered details of a second murder. And police
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: realize they've caught a serial killer.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Shucked this girl and then I pointed them to that
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: on that little sadra going towards But when you turn.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Off the this is how you recounted it to the police.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Your wife was away, you were drinking. You hit the streets,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: as in your words you were known to do. You
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: went to get some liquor and you spotted her. She
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: she wanted abuse.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I knew that she was drunk. She had a off
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: a bottle of of Ara and r on any and
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: uh she was. She was really drunk. She was saluting
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: it and uh I I picked up her.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: I said, hey, you you want some warm food in
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: a warm place at sleep start.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: You bring her home. You were afraid.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: You tell the police that she was gonna leave her
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: odor in the home and.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Your wife would would would detect it. So you told
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: her to take a shower.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: She she was smelling.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: I know, I knew she was homeless then, you know
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: she was. She was she was thinking and.
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: I was getting up sitting and I sit to her,
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: go to could take a shower, you know, cause now
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: there's smelling the house, you know. And uh, she wouldn't
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: do it.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: She she could, said, She kept.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Saying no, no, she said, I clearly remember this. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: again I'm not lying to you. I d I don't remember.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I can't visualize the girl. When I went to the
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: garage and I got my pistol and I said to
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: her go to the shower, and she wouldn't.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: She wouldn't. She wouldn't, she wouldn't.
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: And uh I just did that.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: While she was on the couch. Yeah, I just shut it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: The evidence lined up perfectly with Smith's account. A human
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: skull had been found six months earlier at the site
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Smith named pierced by a bullet. Police would later find
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: an SD card at Smith's home with a video of
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: a woman lying naked on the floor. Forensics identified the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: victim as Veronica about Chuck another Alaska Native woman who
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: disappeared from the streets of Anchorage.
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: Veronica is my best friend and I loved the hell
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: at her.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I knew her daughters.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: You know, DA wasn't working girls. They were just women.
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: They had drinking problems, you know.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: For Valerie Castler, who uncovered evidence of Smith's hotel room murder,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: this second case hit even closer to home.
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: I remember the last time I talked her, she should.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Go on to lichrystore.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: She's gonna get a bottle, and she had to go
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: meet up with somebody that must have been him, because
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: that was the last time I ever saw Smith's photo.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Evidence and confession left virtually no doubt about his guilt.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: But today Smith is trying to sell me a story
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: that sounds nothing like the one he admitted to police.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Tell me what.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Happened that night that you brought Veronica Abuchek to your house.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: The person that I shocked was a fictitious It was
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a fictitious event. It was not Veronica. If that lady
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: was Veronica, that woman walked out of my house, Alicia
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and who got in a vehicle and they drove away,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: well then then then.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: That wasn't Veronica.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Because the the the person that you murdered in your home,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: whose whose forensics lines up with Veronica Abuchak, Right, she
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: didn't walk out of your home.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: That was Alisia Youngblood. That wasn't Veronica.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Smith now recants his detailed confession to the about Chuck murder,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: and he's trying to persuade me that his confession was
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: all based on fictional role play with his former mistress,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Alicia Youngblood.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: The story I told them was a story that Alisha
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and I had made up about driving around. You meet
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: someone and take them home, that make you angry, and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: you shoot them.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I told Alisha, saying that was a made up story. Yes,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: did you?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Did you make up the part about defiling her her
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: corpse after you killed her?
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: Oh?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: That was That was Alisha and Marcel's story.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: You told the police that after murdering her, you sexually
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: defiled her body by sticking your fingers, your hand inside
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: of her. It sounds very much like paraphilia. Do you
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: know that term? Paraphilia characterized by abnormal sexual desires, typically
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: involving extreme or dangerous activities, sometimes intense and persistent interests
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: in inflicting sexual violence or torture on a living person
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: or corpse.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I don't like hurting people you don't know.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: And you're telling me now that what you told the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: police is false, that you did not murder Veronic Grabchek.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: No, you must remember that that interrogation was done underd race.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Well, all interrogations are arguably done under duress, but there
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: was nothing unfair about it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: And in fact, you could to.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Stop talking at any point, and instead you volunteer a
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: completely different story about in earlier crime.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I was in a weakened state of mind. Made seems
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: to me that I need to cover my oh my picks.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Alisha might have told them that story, and now I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: didn't tell them any think I'm lying.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: In fact, Alicia Youngblood had told Lisa's story in secret
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: on a tip line one year earlier.
• 29:21
  Speaker 13: The first time that I talked to Miss Youngblood, she
• 29:23
  Speaker 13: was nervous. You could tell that talking to her on
• 29:26
  Speaker 13: the phone.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: She said Smith had showed her a video of a
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: dead woman.
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: It's going in her and then he'd draw his hand
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: out and he told him the GoPro and then he
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: bites his hands.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: On her legs.
• 29:39
  Speaker 13: She loved this Brian Smith, but now she did not
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: love him.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Anymore.
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: After seeing this video, she was very adamant that she
• 29:46
  Speaker 13: thought this video was real.
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: The pictures are her breast and she's grabbing them so
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: hard that the blood is pulling.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Young Blood tried to go Smith into sharing evidence so
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: police could arrest him.
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: I don't know what I'm hearing to get picture information.
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: I'm doing all kinds of crazy sexual acts.
• 30:11
  Speaker 14: And having the routine to write it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: She took these this fantasy stories, these make belief stories abouts,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and she took it. Then she started bringing in real
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: people's names, and I said to a no.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Smith was cautious not to give young Blood any proof,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and police soon dropped the case.
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: I can't do this anymore. He's more wild.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Alicia Youngblood left Alaska. She never got the chance to
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: testify against Smith.
• 30:46
  Speaker 13: We were informed that she had passed away in Oklahoma.
• 30:52
  Speaker 13: It was most likely she took her own life.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: The next phase of the case is the opening story, as.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: It wasn't until three years later, in February twenty twenty four,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Smith would take center stage in a horror show of
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: his own design.
• 31:10
  Speaker 14: After this trial, you will all carry the burden of knowing.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: The burden of knowing that Brian Smith.
• 31:18
  Speaker 14: Lived, worked, walked among us, mingling and targeting the most
• 31:23
  Speaker 14: vulnerable among us.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Smith's hour in the limelight was just beginning. Let's bring
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: the jury in. This is can McCall your first witness.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: My name is Christy Grimaldi. How are you related to
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: this case?
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: Why are you here today?
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Veronica about check as my mother. I'm her oldest daughter.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: In February twenty twenty four, the trial for the murders
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: of Veronica, about Chuck and Kathleen Henry began.
• 32:00
  Speaker 15: In October twenty nineteen, I was contacted by family.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: To meet with a detective, and.
• 32:12
  Speaker 15: Looking back at that I was in complete denial or
• 32:17
  Speaker 15: holding on to any hope. I remember thinking, Wow, they
• 32:25
  Speaker 15: found her. You know, maybe she's somewhere, and it's just
• 32:31
  Speaker 15: in awe that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I believe that.
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Smith appeared calm as witness after witness laid out evidence
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: against him. But the smoking gun was the evidence Smith
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: produced himself.
• 32:48
  Speaker 14: Those videos depict a woman that we now know to
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: be Kathleen Henry being strangled, tortured, and killed. When we
• 32:56
  Speaker 14: show those videos, they're going to be broadcast on nat
• 32:59
  Speaker 14: TV facing this way so that members of the general
• 33:02
  Speaker 14: Republic don't see them.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Police say you're the man in the video? What do
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: you say?
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: No, it's not me.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I needed a way to push past Smith's denial. If
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't admit to the crimes, could I get him
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: to describe the killer? Let me describe to you what
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the man in the video the killer did, and ask
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: you to profile him for me.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I didn't want to watch him ever at all,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: but they forced me to hit the trial.
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: My name is Brendan Lee, last name l E. So
• 33:39
  Speaker 10: in this video, it's going to start out and you're
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: going to see Catherine Henry on the floor.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: There's a at one point blood coming from both sides
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: of her mouth while the killer is sexual molesting her.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: What did you think when you saw that?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: He wasn't sexually molestic her. He was poking his fingers
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: on her boob?
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Okay? Is that not sexual molestation in your mind?
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: It depends on the woman, It depends on the situation.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Well, obviously the situation was non consensual. She's laying there dying,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: he's telling her he's killing her. He stands on top
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: of her stomach. At one point he laughs maniacally.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: What did you make of that?
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: I don't remember him laughing, even as he downplays the
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: cruelty captured on video. Smith offers clues about the man
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: behind the camera. Did it seem to you that the
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: killer was enjoying himself?
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: No, the guy sounded frustrated. The guy said that, like
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: like she must hurry up. You know, she must, she
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: must hurry up.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: People need to corporate, people need to know when that
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: means serial.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: The person sounded like he had lost control.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: He had lost control, interesting so that it was unplanned
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: maybe spontaneous.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: No, from the wording the guy used, it sounds like
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: he was documenting something.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: So it was planned. As you can notice the tongue
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: it's not swollen.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: That Why was he documented?
• 35:39
  Speaker 12: Why?
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Why would somebody do that?
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Well, they're obviously making money out of it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: As far as I yeah, could have been doing that
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: for to watch it back and get thrills from it,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: He probably could have. If you find him, you can
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: ask him that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: The killer is giggling and laughing. Do you remember that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Probably the ugliest part was where he had he's foot
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: on her throat.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: What kind of man could do that?
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: A nasty person.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: She's making horrific sounds with her dying breaths. Do you
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: remember those sounds?
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Well that that was the first noises that came out
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: when the first video played that showed that were the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: girl trying.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: To breathe and that I do not like that. Can
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: you describe them for me and how they made you feel?
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I didn't like hearing it. It's it's I don't like
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: to hear that stuff. Oh, yes, that's right, Yes, a
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: string of God.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: He's strangling her with a green string, straddling over her, right,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: remember that, berating her, fondling her. I'm trying to make
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: a movie, you stupid blood sucking.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like he's doing that for an audience.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: He's like he's making a movie. He's definitely making a movie.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to make a movie, a stupid old bitch.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Weeks after I met Smith, I finally got access to
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: the murder video itself. I can now see what Smith
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: meant by the killer making a movie out there.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Hate the light button, please.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Just take it, swallowing it. Just do a nimble shot
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: while at angle, like the action shot.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: In Smith's twisted mind. He's a film director and this
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: atrocity is his blockbuster movie.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: You look, you die.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: You die.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Sadly.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: In my movies, everyone dies. I get the Oscar bitch.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: In the end, Smith's movie did meet its audience, spring
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: the jury and twelve men and women, and they quickly
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: delivered a verdict.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Mister Smith, would you please rise? I will read The
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: forms of the verdicts.
• 38:29
  Speaker 13: Were the jury of Brand Independent Brand Stephen Smith guilty
• 38:32
  Speaker 13: of murder in the first degree, is charged.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: To count one guilty for the murder and sexual assault
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: of Kathleen Henry and Veronica about Chuck. His sentence two
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six years in prison. All right, I
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: can tell you, as a professional journalist, the evidence against
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you is insurmountable. You're not getting over it. Isn't there
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: a part of you just still a young man? Isn't
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: there a part of you that just wants to unload,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: unburden this whole thing and and talk truthfully about what
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: actually happened.
• 39:16
  Speaker 12: You're glad you're not going to be able to hurt
• 39:17
  Speaker 12: anybody else.
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but I was also I was hoping that it
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: would have just been that one. I was hoping that
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: that anger and my sister would have been out.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: I don't like to know that I've done that to someone.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: I don't like that.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: It's been ten years since Brian Stephen Smith first left
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: South Africa for a new adventure on the Alaskan frontier.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: At one point, you told the police that Alaska is
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: the perfect place to murder someone.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, people come yet because they are anti social and
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: if you look at the distances between places, yeah, you
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: could just go dump a body just five minutes out
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: of town.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Murder is the third leading cause of death among Native
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: American women. Smith killed two of these vulnerable women, at
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: least two that we know of.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Did you engage in.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Any sexual violence with Native South African women?
• 40:17
  Speaker 9: No, they tell me. One of the comforts as young
• 40:21
  Speaker 9: at sixteen, where.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: I think with the youngest.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm another we.
• 40:32
  Speaker 9: Don't know, not know really.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: The South African police say they're looking into you. Now,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: any idea what that might be about?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Okay again, Right at the beginning, Alisha and myself were
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: telling stories, and the first stories I told her were
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: about South Africa.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: More stories. Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: If I can find any poetic justice in this tragic story,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: it's this. Smith landed behind bars thanks to a woman
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: who lived on the streets with his victims. What do
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: you think would have happened without that video had you
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: not found it and brought.
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: It, did he probably still be investigating in Hayes Tail,
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: probably would be a free man hunting and killing women,
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: and there probably be more bodies than what.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: There was when you heard the verdict?
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: What did you think that was on my birthday?
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: What a birthday present?
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Castla remained on the front lines from the moment
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: she turned over the smoking gun SD card.
• 41:43
  Speaker 14: Those images that you saw, timing and all.
• 41:47
  Speaker 15: Of that aside, have those stayed with you in my head?
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 41:52
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: I just wanted them to go home.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: And what do you mean by that when you say
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: you wanted them to go home?
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: I wanted their parents, their family to be able to
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: mourn and you know, properly instead of bearing an empty box.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Smith tells me he now plans to file an appeal,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and I end the interview with one of my own.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: You're going to live with this story, this defense that
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you've concocted in your in your mind that no one believes, Brian.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: You must know that no one believes the alibi, no
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: one believes that you're not the man in the video.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I mean again, there's a mountain of forensic evidence against you.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: You're going to just live with us.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: There is no DNA evidence, there's no evidence proving that
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: anyone who's in my truck.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: The only evidence in my truck is the evidence of
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: my other bi So.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I have five pages of quotes from your own lips, Brian,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: full of admissions and confessions and acknowledgments and appreciation for
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: the police, and and and self awareness that you've gone
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: too far and now you're in deep.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, that is non confrontational de escalation.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody would consider that de escalation. That's
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: that sounds like a guilty man who's coming clean. In
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the end, Brian Smith's double life culminated in a single fate,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: a life sentence in an Alaskan prison.
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: I want to talk to now was that I've got
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: no one to talk to now. None of my friends
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: will ever Well, this is my fault. I've done my
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: own gravy. I did this to myself. I can't blame
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: anybody else, you know,