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Drive Thru News #12 - Anniversary Episode · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to the drive through episode number 12.
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  This is Brad.
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  That's right.
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  I'm back.
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  You all had a little bit of a reprieve, but you can't get away
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  from me this long for this time.
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  This is our monthly recap where we put together a menu of automotive,
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  motorsport, and random car adjacent news.
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  Now, let's pull up to the window number one.
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  automotive news.
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  That's right, Brad.
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  And before we get on to our normal news banter, let's remind everybody
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  of something really special about this particular episode.
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  This episode marks our one year anniversary, and somehow we managed to
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  turn 52 normal weeks into 72 episodes.
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  So if you've just now tuning into the break fix podcast, you have a
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  lot of Catching up to do, but I have
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  an answer for that though.
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  It's creative editing.
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  That's how we did it.
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  Absolutely.
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  You know, there's a lot of great content out there, back on the main
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  server, out on Patreon, all sorts of stuff to catch up on some fantastic
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  guests over the last year, ranging.
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  All over the motorsport and car community.
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  So lots of really cool things to catch up on and a big shout out and thank you right
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  up front before we dive into the news to all of our guests, all of our supporters
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  and all of our fans that have come on the show in the last year, you know, as
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  we look back, there's been some really, really neat news articles that have come
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  out through our drive through series, and I think we're going to revisit some of
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  those topics as we go along and first up this month, our showcase manufacturer.
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  Just happens to be an EV company.
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  So this month we kick off with Rimac.
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  We've talked about them several times before, and they're infamous for
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  being the car that Richard Hammond had wrecked in an episode of The
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  Grand Tour while doing a hill climb.
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  So they were kind of like on the bleeding edge of hyper and supercar EV technology.
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  And we talked about several times on this show where Porsche has sold out.
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  vested interest and continue to grow its vested interest in RIMAC.
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  And things just went to 11 because here's what we're hearing.
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  RIMAC bought Bugatti.
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  Did you guys know that Bugatti was for sale?
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  I knew the Bugatti baby too was for sale.
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  Hey, so let's do the math on this for just a second.
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  RIMAC who had about 21 percent controlled stock by Porsche.
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  Then buys a company that is owned by Volkswagen, in which it has
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  45 percent controlling stock of.
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  So in two plus two equals seven and a half accounting math, that means Porsche
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  owns about 60 percent of Rimac now.
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  Yes.
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  Right.
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  I mean, it's absolutely nutty.
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  I read some articles, even for PCA and PCA being the Porsche club of America.
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  They're saying Porsche now owns 45 percent of Rimac, right?
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  Because of the crazy math and everything that's going on here.
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  What does that mean for the company?
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  What does that mean for Bugatti?
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  Oh, what does that mean for all these crazy concepts
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  that they're coming out with?
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  What I gather from this is like we alluded to Volkswagen group in Porsche,
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  we're leveraging Rimac to develop some of the more high end EV stuff that they
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  wanted for, let's say like something like a nine 18 or the Lamont's cars, the
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  LMDH prototypes and things like that.
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  So I think this is a great test bed.
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  We've already seen that Bugatti has been going off the deep end with
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  some crazy new models that we can't pronounce the names and we don't
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  understand what they look like.
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  So it all kind of works together, but some of the new numbers are astonishing.
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  Obviously, you know, Tesla loves to come to the table and say, Oh,
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  we've got the fastest car zero to 60.
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  RIMAC is currently claiming zero to 60 in 1.
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  85 seconds.
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  Wrap your mind around that staggering speed.
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  Do we really need to go this fast?
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  I guess is the better question.
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  No, I don't think we need to go this fast.
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  I mean, even 2.
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  8 seconds, which is, I guess, the norm now for all these hypercars and supercars
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  is just still completely just insane.
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  1.
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  8, 1.
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  9 or whatever.
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  That's, I would faint.
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  Going that fast.
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  Right?
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  I mean, your eyes are like pushing into the back of your head at that point.
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  We're well past the days, like we talked about in the Bobby Parks
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  episode, you owe me a 10 second car.
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  10 second car is slow.
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  I mean, what is a 1.
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  850 to 60 second car doing a quarter mile?
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  Are we in the fives?
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  Absolutely bonkers.
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  Which drove me down this path.
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  And I stumbled upon another article that just happened to
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  kind of leak out from the side.
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  And it went back to a conversation that we had earlier in the year about the
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  fastest production cars in the world.
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  Remember we talked about the SSE Tuatara and some of these other vehicles that
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  were out there and whether they had dethroned Bugatti, you know, and we're
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  talking about them here again now.
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  And so I went through this list and Rimac shows up twice.
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  So the concept one, as they're calling it is at 221 miles an hour.
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  And the concept two, which I don't believe is out yet.
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  58 miles an hour, again, staggering numbers from a company that's really
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  not that old that we've only hired about in the last couple of years.
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  Maybe they're that dark horse that nobody's really paying attention to while
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  the shiny objects is the Teslas and the Koenigseggs and all these other things.
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  And here comes Rimac now bolted up with Porsche and the
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  power and the might of VAG.
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  I mean, we're going to see some crazy stuff coming out of there and, you
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  know, Porsche is not going to settle for anything less than perfection.
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  And so I'm really, really excited to see what comes of this new merger.
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  And especially from the Bugatti line, because we have joked several times
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  that how much lemonade can you squeeze out of an aging R8 platform, you
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  know, and call it the Chiron and the Veyron and all these different names.
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  I will say on that list of 25 fastest cars on the planet.
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  A lot of them are still really old.
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  We're talking about salines.
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  We're talking about the original McLaren F1 is still on that list.
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  I mean, there's Jaguar XJ220 is still on that list, right?
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  I mean, going way back into the nineties, there's still a lot of cars that
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  topple that 200 mile an hour number.
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  There's a bunch of stuff on there that I was surprised
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  hadn't been completely eclipsed.
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  But it seems to me, if you take all the cars away from that list that
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  said claimed next to them, you know, unproven results, the Chiron Supersport.
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  That is still king of the castle at almost 305 miles an hour.
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  I mean, which again begs the question, do we need to go that fast?
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  So what I want to know is when is this technology going to trickle
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  down all the way to the Veloster in in the Elantra in because as you
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  saw on the chart, Hyundai owns 12 percent of this remit group as well.
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  Exactly.
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  How's that going to work out?
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  And, you know, to be honest, since we're still kind of talking in a
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  roundabout way of VAG news, I actually got a recent opportunity to coach in
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  a Veloster N since you brought it up.
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  And I have to say that is the best GTI that was ever built in Korea.
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  So let's move on from that and let's talk a little bit about our next favorite
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  group in the automotive world, Stellantis.
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  There has been an unveiling of a Grand Jeep yet to be named, as we
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  referenced on a previous episode.
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  We're still not sure what it's going to be called, but as speculated, it's the Grand
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  Wagoneer with some different badging.
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  It
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  doesn't look any different than any other Jeep.
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  From the side, it looks like a Palisade.
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  Or a Telluride to me.
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  Sharp line down the side of it.
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  I had
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  to sit behind a Telluride.
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  I've not seen Telluride line.
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  All I see with Telluride is that the rear end lights.
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  The Telluride actually isn't hateful.
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  No, they're not bad looking.
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  But it's not the more rounded, muscular look of the current day.
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  Grand Cherokee, which I actually really, I'm a huge fan of
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  the current WK2 Cherokees.
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  Grand SUVs the Jeep makes that we can't call Cherokees anymore.
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  The side view definitely looks a little more square, maybe harkening back to
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  the very square Cherokees from the 90s.
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  I thought the front was basically the Grand Wagoneer.
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  Concept that we've seen revealed with a different badge on it.
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  It has that kind of crow Magnin forehead and the lights kind of inverted and,
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  you know, kind of curved internally.
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  I don't know.
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  Maybe I'm not looking at the same thing.
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  Actually,
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  there are pictures of the current Jeep in that photo reel.
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  That carousel.
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  Don't ask me why, but they are there.
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  Maybe that's the problem.
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  Yeah, it's definitely grand Wagoneer light.
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  Exactly.
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  Exactly.
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  You can tell they've elongated the chassis.
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  It's much bigger.
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  And why wouldn't they share the same chassis?
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  It doesn't make sense not to.
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  I mean, from a tooling perspective, change a couple of things, call
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  Hella or whoever, make some different lights, and then let's go from there.
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  But the question is, what is the Dodge Durango going to look like now?
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  I would say, take that Jeep and slam it into a concrete wall.
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  And that's probably what it will look like.
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  I can see that.
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  That's if they even bring the Durango back, right?
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  Cause the Durango, I think is being eclipsed by the Wagoneer name, which
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  is the debate they had a couple of years ago, which was the Durango was
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  supposed to already be the Wagoneer and they said, no, no, no, no, no.
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  It's going to be a Dodge.
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  We're going to keep it a Dodge.
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  With the new changes at Stellantis and even the changes internally at FCA, before
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  all that happened where they're kind of thinning out the herd a little bit and,
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  you know, changing their offerings where all the trucks are Rams and, you know,
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  Dodges is going to be the muscle cars and all this kind of thing, I can kind
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  of see that, you know, they don't want to have too, too much overlap anymore.
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  The Wagoneer, as we already talked about in a previous episode, it's
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  the highest of high end, right?
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  It's beyond.
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  The grand jeep to be named summit edition, right?
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  It's then the Wagoneer.
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  It's like even more to obviously try to compete with what's going on over
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  at Cadillac and all the other high end brands that are putting Range Rover
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  and
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  it's a three row, right?
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  Since when has the current grand Cherokee been a three row?
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  If it wasn't a Durango, right?
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  So with, with that, I mean, it's a lot of badge engineering.
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  Let's call it that.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  I'm not in the market for it, so it's okay.
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  So we'll flip this around a little bit, and let's talk about the last hoorah
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  for the Charger and the Challenger.
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  Say what now?
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  Yeah, yeah, so Dodge announced back early in July that, hey guys,
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  just want to let you know, we're done building muscle cars, okay?
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  And everybody went, what, what, what?
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  And we've been talking about this for a year now, about how Chrysler, Could
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  care less about all this other stuff.
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  700 horsepower or whatever.
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  800 horsepower.
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  Sure.
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  900.
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  All right.
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  1000.
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  1100.
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  Where are we going?
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  Right?
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  Sky's the limit.
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  Now they're saying, all right, guys, it's been fun.
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  It's been real, but we're good.
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  They are hinting without giving any details whatsoever.
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  The press release that came out on July the 8th was nothing more than, it
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  didn't say anything other than, yep, there's going to be an EV version of the
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  Challenger and the Charger in the future.
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  No specs, no nothing other than that.
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  But there was a pretty funny quote from the director and he says, everybody
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  knows electrification is coming.
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  We will reinvent the muscle car.
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  As far as Dodge is concerned.
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  Okay.
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  Well, that's kind of ambiguous, but here it comes.
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  I'm extremely excited about where the future is going, but right now
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  everybody is enjoying the bachelor party and this is the last hoorah.
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  And
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  I'm
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  like, you know, all right.
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  All right.
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  I'll take it.
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  I'll take it.
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  But what I'm expecting though, if you're going to go out with a bang, you're
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  setting the stage like that, the Hellcat better have a 2000 horsepower option.
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  I mean, if you're going to do it, you got to go big or go home.
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  You got to do a demon that does a six second quarter.
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  What's the new name going to be like the Lucifer, the Dante.
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  I mean, they got to give it, they got to give it a whole nother thing, right.
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  To take it to 2000.
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  What's that morning
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  star.
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  Yeah.
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  What are all the names from the Lucifer TV show that we can throw in
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  here?
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  You know what?
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  I think our listeners should write in and put in their suggestions or
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  post on Instagram, uh, Along with the show and say, Hey, this is my
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  idea for the main dive should use for their 2000 horsepower challenger.
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  I just got a great show idea.
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  First of all, I think we need to insert taps here right now.
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  Uh, when you're doing the editing.
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  Also, I think we need to have a funeral for these vehicles, for these cars.
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  We do like a podcast funeral.
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  Everybody can call in and let us know their favorite memories
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  of when they saw the Hellcat do.
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  Burnout all the way up from the lower S's to the upper S's at VIR and the
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  back straight and all that good stuff.
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  Hey, Dodge, if you're listening, 21 challenger burnout salute.
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  I mean, again, if you're going to party hard, do it right.
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  You imagine what that would sound like?
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  The 21 challengers unloading.
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  Uh, you wouldn't be able to breathe for like a week, but absolutely incredible.
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  So, you know, all this talk about the challenger and the charger
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  on their way out, we got to do a little throwback Thursday here.
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  We got to rewind the clock And talk about the genesis of where this whole
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  legacy started back in the year 1999.
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  So let's party like it's 99 and go to Tanya.
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  Sometimes we see concept cars and it's very disappointing when the
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  real car is made because it strays.
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  very much away from what that concept looked like.
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  The concept looked amazing.
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  And then there's concept cars that are hot garbage, and thankfully they're not made.
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  This is the hot garbage category.
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  The original Charger RT concept, this thing is phenomenally ugly.
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  It looks like a Dodge Stratus.
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  mated with the current Camaro or something from the rear end.
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  I don't know.
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  Like there's many things going on where it looks like multiple cars that
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  have been pieced, mealed together.
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  But my initial look from the front, I just see that horrid Dodge Stratus and
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  I don't care what's under the hood.
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  thing is a piece of garbage.
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  And thankfully when they finally made the Dodge Charger, it didn't look like this
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  when they did release the first charger, it wasn't anything to
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  write home about compared to now.
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  Some of the newest chargers.
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  I mean, they're really good looking.
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  They got some stance to them and flares and they're aggressive.
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  I mean, Fiat has done an excellent job redefining the charger and
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  the challenger for that matter.
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  But you're right.
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  This thing is hot trash and it goes right along with.
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  An article we wrote about two years ago now called good ideas, bad
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  execution, where we talk about these concept cars, but you know, sometimes
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  they do evolve into good things.
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  They are the jumping off point for something else, but I don't
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  know what this jumped off to.
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  But thank God they threw it in the bin and started all over again.
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  I think part of it jumped off to the Dodge Avenger.
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  If anybody remembers that car, which was basically based off of the Sebring.
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  I think it was like a.
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  A coupe Sebring, essentially it's like they're all the same
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  chassis, those crappy cars.
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  The amalgamation of all of those horrible looking cars.
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  Yes.
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  And to clarify, it does not look like Camaro from the rear end view, because I
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  don't know what that rear end tail light thing with the way the side was swooping.
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  It's garbage.
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  It's
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  a mess.
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  I know Camaro is not a Dodge, but.
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  It came in my head when I was looking at the side view of it.
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  The same time was it a year or two later, they had that crazy demon
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  they called it, which was like a Miata killer that took some of the
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  cues from this weird prototype.
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  And it actually didn't look bad.
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  It looked like there was also the copper head at one point, which was a Viper
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  variant that they had come out with.
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  I mean, it was an experimental time in 99 at Dodge.
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  Like they just weren't sure what was up.
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  Right.
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  Prince said, we got a party.
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  Yeah.
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  And they, they were partying.
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  All right.
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  So switching gears and still talking about Stellantis a little bit.
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  What else we got there, Tanya?
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  Ferrari tends to be
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  You don't say.
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  Rightfully so.
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  And that's great.
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  But now, as if you didn't need to be any more pretentious with your Ferrari.
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  I have nothing against Ferraris.
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  If I had that kind of money, I'd have one as well.
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  Ferrari's getting into the mini EV market like Bugatti?
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  Is that what I'm hearing?
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  No.
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  Not talking about that, but we are talking about something mini.
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  Going forward, when you purchase your brand new Ferrari, you can
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  now also purchase a 1 8th or 1 12th scale model car of your Ferrari.
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  This is a partnership between Ferrari and Amalgam Collections.
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  They're a company that makes model cars.
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  Now I had to look up a Malcolm collection.
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  So I was like, Ooh, model car.
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  Anyone want to wager guess as to how much a model car costs?
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  If you want to order a 1 8th scale,
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  I already gasp at the price of the auto art 1 8th scale cars.
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  So I'm going to imagine it's 10 times what those costs.
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  I'm gonna throw out 15 grand.
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  You are very close and on the ball because, just as an example, the Ferrari
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  250 GTO 3445 GT 1 8th scale is 14, 965.
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  Wow.
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  Well, that's brutal.
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  You can get a Ferrari 250 TR 118 for 793.
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  Wait, that's the cheapest one?
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  793?
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  And it's not the same scale though.
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  I'm just kind of cruising through the Ferraris right here.
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  So let me ask you this, you know, there's this whole like seeming
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  underground myth that Ferrari owners don't actually own the Ferraris.
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  They're actually all owned by The company, and you just kind of lease
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  them and turn them in and you work your way up the Ponzi scheme until
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  you get the latest and greatest one.
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  You got to, you know, it's like this whole thing.
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  If you have a scale model that goes with your Ferrari, do you actually
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  own the model or is that what you get left with after they take it away?
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  I don't know.
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  But at those prices, you could buy a whole second car.
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  Buy a Honda for that price.
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  I mean,
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  you could buy a 2016 Dodge Dart.
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  Ain't
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  that
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  truth.
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  Get one
• 17:53
  today.
• 17:53
  Your local Chrysler dealer.
• 17:56
  Oh, well, the things people will buy, the things I definitely
• 17:59
  will not just because they can.
• 18:01
  Exactly.
• 18:02
  So moving on, we, I mean, this wouldn't be a drive thru episode if we didn't
• 18:06
  talk about Volkswagen Audi group.
• 18:08
  I know we started with Rimac.
• 18:09
  It is technically a separate organization.
• 18:11
  We got to focus on the parent organization, Volkswagen Audi group.
• 18:14
  And there was some news that rocked the social media world this past month.
• 18:20
  So let's talk about that.
• 18:21
  Oh, are you referring to the OMA to the Audi Quattro S1 in electric?
• 18:28
  Yes, I very much am.
• 18:30
  And you know what's funny?
• 18:31
  I found so many people reacting to this car that probably would have
• 18:37
  done nothing but put poo emojis and thumb down over the original one.
• 18:42
  You know, but there's just something about it.
• 18:43
  It is probably the closest, if it isn't a rendering to the original cars, it
• 18:50
  really does do a great job of bringing out the essence and the period and just
• 18:56
  all the awesome things about those, you know, homologated groupie rally cars.
• 19:00
  What is the big problem with this car, Tanya?
• 19:02
  The biggest problem is it doesn't have four rings on the front grill.
• 19:06
  That's right.
• 19:06
  This is a complete skunkworks project by a group called E Legend.
• 19:10
  They're building this as a tribute car, but the factory at this
• 19:14
  point wants nothing to do with it.
• 19:16
  And so if anything, Audi, Volkswagen, if you're listening, don't be stupid.
• 19:20
  There are enthusiasts that want these cars.
• 19:23
  Just freaking build it at this point.
• 19:24
  Send it.
• 19:25
  Everybody else.
• 19:26
  Seems to be stepping into the time machine to pull forward
• 19:30
  retro redesigns that are electric.
• 19:34
  We've seen some of them.
• 19:35
  We've talked about some of them.
• 19:36
  I mean, you've got the ones that everybody knows, Fiat mini, et cetera.
• 19:39
  But we even talked about the Alfa Romeo and Renault and all these things.
• 19:43
  Why not this?
• 19:45
  What better car in the Audi lineage to bring back as a retro and electrify.
• 19:51
  Exactly.
• 19:51
  I don't disagree.
• 19:53
  You know, and I can hear certain members in my ear right now, the American
• 19:57
  market doesn't want it, you know, dah, dah, it'll never, it wouldn't be to
• 20:00
  the American market anyway, that's a non starter.
• 20:03
  Just like we're never going to get to Scirocco.
• 20:05
  And I.
• 20:06
  I'm going to get off my soapbox right now because I just get all
• 20:09
  spun around the axle about it, but you know, Hey, whatever, but there
• 20:11
  is some cool stuff coming from Audi.
• 20:14
  Well, and just like we'll never get it.
• 20:16
  I want to do a quick follow up.
• 20:18
  We talked about the five cylinder Audi RS3 that's going to be coming out.
• 20:22
  And I think 2022, it will be not only the sedan, which was
• 20:27
  what's been shown in pictures.
• 20:28
  There will be a hatchback version.
• 20:30
  Take it from me now.
• 20:35
  If you live in Europe.
• 20:36
  Oh God.
• 20:37
  Wah, wah, wah.
• 20:39
  Yep.
• 20:39
  The hatchback version will not be available in the U.
• 20:42
  S.
• 20:42
  Of course.
• 20:43
  Moving on.
• 20:44
  The only hatchback version of that we're going to get is the Q3 or the,
• 20:48
  or the Q5 with an RS package on it.
• 20:50
  That's what we're going to get because apparently that's all we can drive.
• 20:54
  Frustrating, frustrating.
• 20:55
  Can you, can you folks, can you hear my frustration?
• 20:58
  I mean, if you're a petrol head, you should be upset about this.
• 21:01
  Maybe you don't like Audi.
• 21:02
  Maybe you don't like Volkswagen or Porsche or any of these
• 21:05
  brands, but think about it.
• 21:06
  There are so many cool designs out there.
• 21:08
  And we've said this before in the show that could be updated and made better.
• 21:12
  To work without even really ruining the design.
• 21:15
  I think we've said it before.
• 21:16
  Chrysler has proven that time and time again, you can make the old cars cool.
• 21:21
  Yeah.
• 21:21
  They're going to be bigger than the originals.
• 21:23
  They're going to be safer.
• 21:24
  They're going to be faster.
• 21:25
  Why
• 21:25
  not?
• 21:26
  Well, what I don't understand is this aversion.
• 21:29
  Okay.
• 21:29
  It existed, but apparently still exists for hatchbacks because guess what?
• 21:34
  All these compact crossover SUV things are nothing but.
• 21:38
  Lifted hatchbacks.
• 21:40
  So if everyone in the U S is on this compact crossover
• 21:43
  bandwagon, then I don't get it.
• 21:46
  I don't get it either, but I think it goes to Brad's favorite phrase.
• 21:49
  I mean, if nobody's figured this out yet, you know, hatchback and CUV are basically
• 21:55
  the same thing with suspension gap.
• 21:58
  I mean, I don't know.
• 21:59
  You know, most of
• 22:00
  the CUVs that are coming out, don't even have that much suspension gap.
• 22:03
  They're essentially the same height.
• 22:05
  Is your Camry that's parked next to him.
• 22:06
  It's ridiculous, but they can haul a shit ton of mulch,
• 22:10
  but you know, what is coming out is the Chinese only market.
• 22:13
  La Mondo.
• 22:14
  Have you seen this thing?
• 22:16
  Uh, unique.
• 22:19
  Yeah.
• 22:19
  So in terms of not coming to the United States, I'm okay with this one.
• 22:24
  It is hideous.
• 22:24
  Like there are cars where I'm like.
• 22:26
  It looks like a roach.
• 22:28
  You could say that about the TT.
• 22:29
  Kind of looks like a little bulldog.
• 22:31
  The Toyota Paseo to me looked like an insect from like way back in the day.
• 22:34
  This one definitely like it needs little antennae and like whiskers.
• 22:39
  I mean, it's, it just looks like a pill bug.
• 22:41
  I don't get it.
• 22:42
  And not in a good way.
• 22:43
  Like what was that thing called?
• 22:44
  It was like the bug ripoff.
• 22:46
  Oh, yeah, yeah,
• 22:48
  yeah.
• 22:48
  The, the fun, the fun cat or something, whatever, stupid name it had.
• 22:52
  Nothing.
• 22:53
  God, let's not go there.
• 22:55
  There is something cool coming and I don't know if it's true or not.
• 22:59
  And this is one of my favorite VWs that nobody knows anything about.
• 23:03
  The SP2.
• 23:04
  I talked about it in our previous episode.
• 23:06
  It was a Brazilian born.
• 23:08
  There were multiple variants of it.
• 23:09
  And we talked about a rendering that had come out with a full
• 23:12
  motion video to go with it.
• 23:14
  Set to music, really cool looking.
• 23:16
  It's in one of the previous drive thru episodes, but now it sounds like
• 23:19
  and looks like from these sketches that have come out that Volkswagen of
• 23:24
  South America might actually be a car.
• 23:26
  be putting together a prototype.
• 23:28
  And I tell you what, some people have said it looks like a Jaguar E
• 23:31
  Type from a couple years back, but I actually think it looks really cool.
• 23:34
  And it does a good job of staying with that last generation of VW SP2.
• 23:40
  I seriously doubt it'll ever come to fruition.
• 23:43
  And if it were
• 23:46
  only be available in Brazil, because it's the only place that
• 23:49
  car basically was available.
• 23:50
  My soul is crushed.
• 23:52
  You're killing me today.
• 23:53
  Volkswagen.
• 23:54
  Or is it volt wagon?
• 23:55
  What is it again?
• 23:57
  Oh, okay.
• 23:58
  I got it.
• 23:59
  Got it.
• 23:59
  Got rimac.
• 24:00
  Okay.
• 24:02
  Meanwhile, VW announced that they are going to begin 3d printing
• 24:09
  metal parts for their vehicles.
• 24:10
  And I actually thought that was kind of cool.
• 24:12
  They're the first manufacturer that I've seen, at least come out into the public
• 24:15
  and state that they were doing this, how this is going to change the Part
• 24:20
  manufacturing kind of logistics change.
• 24:22
  I don't know because you know, as we know, not all manufacturers make
• 24:26
  all their parts in house, right?
• 24:28
  Germans are famous for using Miley and man and Vallejo and Vico.
• 24:33
  And there's all sorts of other companies, just like we have in the U S right.
• 24:35
  AC Delco and all these other groups that will build parts and then
• 24:39
  supply them to the manufacturer.
• 24:40
  And they get put on the assembly line.
• 24:42
  This is the true of other manufacturing industries, whether it be, you know,
• 24:45
  the computer industry and others.
• 24:47
  So I think this is actually kind of cool that.
• 24:49
  They're bringing it, maybe some of the parts more in house and they're
• 24:53
  going to be made out of metal and not plastic and 3d printed.
• 24:56
  So that's kind of cool.
• 24:57
  They're still going to fail
• 24:58
  a hundred percent.
• 24:59
  I mean, we're
• 24:59
  still going to need to go to the dealership and wait three years for a new
• 25:02
  part to come out or for to get a new part.
• 25:04
  Cause it's got to be overnight from Germany,
• 25:06
  only made in the dark forest, right?
• 25:08
  But
• 25:08
  this brings up a good point with like the 3d printing of
• 25:10
  parts and everything like that.
• 25:12
  If the 3d printers.
• 25:13
  They don't take up much real estate.
• 25:15
  Theoretically, if you get to a point where the dealers could start
• 25:19
  manufacturing their own parts in house to cut down on some of that time gap.
• 25:23
  Be like, Hey, yo, I need an oil filter.
• 25:25
  All right.
• 25:25
  It'll take you three weeks to get it, but you know, Hey, whatever.
• 25:31
  Crazy, you know, that they'd be able to do metal printings because earlier,
• 25:35
  just a couple of days ago, actually, apparently in Amsterdam, they built like
• 25:40
  a pedestrian bridge across a canal that's.
• 25:43
  Stainless steel bridge that was 3d printed.
• 25:45
  How big is that printer?
• 25:47
  I don't know.
• 25:48
  And it's very, um, artistic looking the bridge.
• 25:51
  So it's not a simple like flat platform and rails on the side.
• 25:54
  This thing is very like futuristic looking with curves and, uh,
• 25:58
  other, you know, features on it.
• 25:59
  So apparently, you know, six robotic arms and all this stuff
• 26:03
  welded it and blah, blah, blah.
• 26:05
  So, you know, if they can build something of that scale, then
• 26:08
  small parts shouldn't be an issue.
• 26:11
  Obviously technology is.
• 26:12
  Absolutely.
• 26:14
  And we talked about in a previous episode where team Corvette had talked about
• 26:18
  all the different things that were 3d printed on the C8 are IMSA race car.
• 26:23
  So it's not uncommon, but I thought it was cool to VW is pretty much at the front
• 26:27
  of this saying, Hey, we're doing this as part of our day to day operations.
• 26:31
  And I thought that was pretty neat.
• 26:32
  So good on them.
• 26:33
  Right.
• 26:33
  And they're going to try to set the trend.
• 26:35
  So any other news from Volkswagen before we move on?
• 26:38
  One final, which I guess could, uh, air in the funeral episode.
• 26:44
  So I think it's been a little bit in the, in the making that Volkswagen
• 26:49
  had said that by the end of the decade, I think that the Passat was
• 26:52
  going to go the way of the Condor.
• 26:54
  If you will, but they've actually accelerated that timeline.
• 26:57
  And apparently the VW Passat will no longer be manufactured after
• 27:03
  2022.
• 27:04
  And the only people disappointed are the folks at the rental car lots.
• 27:09
  I mean, the need for the Passat, I don't blame them.
• 27:12
  I mean, the Jetta is the size of Passat now.
• 27:14
  So why do you need two of them?
• 27:16
  And then they brought
• 27:18
  out that A or 10 or whatever.
• 27:20
  It
• 27:20
  was like, It's going to say that, you know, their sedan game hasn't really
• 27:23
  been that strong because the Ayrton didn't necessarily do that well.
• 27:26
  The CC didn't really necessarily do that well either.
• 27:29
  It's like they did well with the Jetta.
• 27:31
  Okay, well keep the Jetta then.
• 27:33
  Apparently this is going to be a special edition version because
• 27:36
  since 2011, the Passat's been manufactured at the Chattanooga.
• 27:40
  VW plant, so it's going to get, you know, all sorts of cool limited edition
• 27:45
  things from the wheels to seat tags in the interior to even the, the bottoms
• 27:51
  of the cup holders are going to have like an aerial map of Chattanooga
• 27:54
  and a blueprint of the factory.
• 27:56
  So a lot of touches on the car going to Chattanooga and the, in
• 28:00
  the factory itself to kind of pay a little homage to the factory there.
• 28:05
  So question, how long will it take for one of these special edition Passat's
• 28:10
  to sell for 250, 000 on bring a trailer?
• 28:14
  Because all this extra shit that they're putting into these things to
• 28:17
  make it special edition, you know, someone's going to buy one and try
• 28:21
  and flip it as a collector car.
• 28:22
  Uh,
• 28:26
  I don't think so.
• 28:28
  I don't
• 28:28
  think so.
• 28:30
  Should I said racing junk instead of bridge?
• 28:32
  Not
• 28:32
  even that I think is going to be on eBay if eBay still exists in 40 years.
• 28:36
  Okay,
• 28:37
  let me rephrase my question.
• 28:39
  How long will it take?
• 28:40
  Before these cars are all up on Craigslist for 250.
• 28:46
  That's more like it.
• 28:47
  That is a hundred percent.
• 28:48
  More like
• 28:48
  probably right.
• 28:49
  That someone will have that idea and think it's a good one, but the
• 28:53
  reality will be that they will just be left with having bought the car.
• 28:58
  Yeah, it's going to be like that Citroën, Dechevaux, Burton conversion
• 29:02
  we talked about last month, where it costs more for them to make the car
• 29:06
  special than it's actually worth.
• 29:08
  So I think that's what Volkswagen is going through right now with Passat.
• 29:12
  It's like, they're in denial.
• 29:13
  We're going to make it super awesome.
• 29:15
  Because I would say it's starting at 31 isn't really that much more
• 29:21
  expensive or out of the price range.
• 29:23
  I mean, you'll be able to go to your dealer and buy one for 26 immediately.
• 29:26
  Because nobody's going to be buying them
• 29:28
  100%.
• 29:29
  But in China, you can still buy the quantum based facade from 1985.
• 29:34
  So it's all good.
• 29:35
  You know what I mean?
• 29:36
  They use them as cop cars and stuff.
• 29:37
  It's, it's absolutely nutty.
• 29:38
  I'm like, whatever.
• 29:39
  So maybe over there, the facade will get a 2nd life.
• 29:42
  I actually, in China, they call it the Shanghai.
• 29:45
  That's the model that name they call it, not to be confused with the city,
• 29:49
  but who knows, maybe it'll get a second life over there as a limousine.
• 29:52
  Cause it's freaking huge.
• 29:54
  But now we're going to move on to Brad's favorite new section
• 29:58
  here in the, what is it now?
• 30:00
  I guess it's middle of season two.
• 30:02
  We've introduced something called lost and found.
• 30:05
  So I'm going to start lost and found with something we don't have on our
• 30:08
  show notes, but I did a little bit of investigative work and some digging
• 30:12
  and I found you can go Right now.
• 30:15
  Oh God.
• 30:16
  This is, this is 2021 right now.
• 30:18
  You can buy a brand new 2014 Honda Civic Hybrid.
• 30:23
  No!
• 30:25
  No way!
• 30:26
  With five miles on it and a CVT transmission, 1.
• 30:30
  5 liter i4 hybrid, heated seats, keyless start, navigation system,
• 30:35
  bluetooth, alloy wheels, backup camera, brake assist, lane departure warning,
• 30:39
  stability control, and leather seats.
• 30:41
  And what color is it?
• 30:42
  It's black.
• 30:42
  Oh, that's why I didn't sell.
• 30:44
  Black with black interior.
• 30:46
  That's
• 30:46
  exactly why I didn't sell.
• 30:48
  If you're looking for a car, it is at Colonial Honda.
• 30:52
  That's in our area, isn't it?
• 30:53
  In
• 30:54
  Dartmouth, Massachusetts.
• 30:55
  Oh, nevermind then.
• 30:56
  Off Route 6.
• 30:57
  Nice.
• 30:57
  Buycolonialhonda.
• 30:59
  com.
• 30:59
  Is that the oldest new lost and found you found?
• 31:02
  Or do we know one
• 31:04
  thing I had some trouble with was looking at cars.
• 31:08
  com is people don't know what they have much to you know what
• 31:12
  they say on Craigslist where they know what they have on cars.
• 31:16
  com.
• 31:16
  They don't they don't realize that their 2008 Mercedes ml.
• 31:20
  With 170, 000 miles, it's not actually a new car.
• 31:24
  Don't lowball me, bro.
• 31:25
  I know what I got.
• 31:26
  All right.
• 31:27
  Yeah.
• 31:27
  What they have is a piece of junk with a lot of miles on it.
• 31:30
  It's not a new car.
• 31:31
  A hundred percent, but that's a hell of a fine dude.
• 31:33
  Good on you.
• 31:34
  Every month we keep coming up with new old stock.
• 31:37
  Let's
• 31:37
  call it
• 31:37
  that.
• 31:38
  If you're looking for this car, all of our two listeners who
• 31:40
  might be looking to buy a vehicle.
• 31:42
  They're Arbitron
• 31:44
  rated three listeners.
• 31:45
  Okay.
• 31:45
  We have stepped up.
• 31:46
  We have
• 31:48
  season two.
• 31:48
  You know, you gotta up your game.
• 31:50
  MSRP is 26,625.
• 31:53
  Whoa.
• 31:53
  Theyre selling this car for 18,994.
• 31:56
  So that's a smoking deal.
• 31:58
  Seven years later,
• 32:00
  . You sure that's not $1,876?
• 32:03
  Nope.
• 32:04
  But it, it is a $1,500 price drop recently.
• 32:07
  You know what they should probably do is salvage this car and take the
• 32:09
  microprocessors and start putting them into the newer cars that are out there
• 32:13
  that they're having trouble finishing.
• 32:15
  So since lost and found also comprises some historical
• 32:19
  stuff, what else is on the list?
• 32:20
  See, Toyota's got to pay 1.
• 32:22
  2 billion for the unintended acceleration issue that happened 10
• 32:26
  plus years ago caused by floor mats.
• 32:29
  They had to pay 1.
• 32:30
  2 billion for hiding the facts of the, uh, I guess of the case.
• 32:34
  Can you imagine 10 years later, you're still dealing with that?
• 32:37
  Are those Priuses even still on the road anymore?
• 32:40
  It wasn't just Priuses, they were Camrys, all the Toyota models, because
• 32:45
  apparently they used terrible flimsy clips that held the floor mats in
• 32:50
  place, and then the floor mats would get lodged under the accelerator pedal.
• 32:53
  That's why every single time I go to the dealer with my truck for
• 32:56
  service, On the list of items that they check, they check the floor mat.
• 33:00
  They check it every single time.
• 33:02
  Ah, even on that Avalon TRD we talked about last month.
• 33:07
  Not to go back to Volkswagen, but I got to tip my hat for some
• 33:10
  of their marketing campaigns.
• 33:12
  We could argue our off.
• 33:13
  The rails sometimes, but then there's a few others that are awesome.
• 33:16
  And one of them in recent times is the whole buy a manual because it's,
• 33:21
  it's basically a anti theft device.
• 33:23
  We all saw that commercial.
• 33:24
  We think it's awesome, but not that this is a blinding realization of pure truth.
• 33:30
  It just took us a good doy moment to get there, which is.
• 33:33
  Now, folks are saying manuals are going to be a boost in collector value.
• 33:38
  Really?
• 33:39
  You don't say anybody that's out there has got a manual because
• 33:42
  they are getting rarer and rarer.
• 33:44
  Guess what?
• 33:44
  Unlike that facade we talked about five minutes ago, you actually have something
• 33:48
  that might be a value in the future.
• 33:49
  Too bad.
• 33:50
  Nobody's going to know how to drive it.
• 33:51
  Yeah, right.
• 33:52
  Who, who, who wants it?
• 33:53
  Nevermind.
• 33:54
  You want
• 33:54
  to GR yards with the manual?
• 33:56
  I know that.
• 33:57
  Yes.
• 33:58
  But I know how to drive a manual, but today's youth don't even
• 34:02
  want to drive a car, regardless of it's manual or automatic.
• 34:05
  So who who's going to want to buy these manual transmission cars?
• 34:08
  Cause they just don't want their self driving fully autonomous.
• 34:11
  Blah, blah,
• 34:12
  blah.
• 34:12
  And listen to the listener in Pennsylvania.
• 34:17
  That's got a 1985 Chevrolet Cavalier manual.
• 34:20
  That's not going to be a collector's car.
• 34:22
  I don't care if it's got a manual transmission or not.
• 34:25
  The same for the chickadee in, uh, in West Virginia with the 1996 Pontiac Sunfire.
• 34:33
  Manual.
• 34:33
  That's not a collector's car either.
• 34:35
  It's a collector's car but still running because those cars don't run anymore.
• 34:39
  The fallacy in all this is that suddenly these cars are
• 34:42
  going to be super desirable.
• 34:43
  To your point, the collector cars that are
• 34:45
  manual are already collector cars to begin with.
• 34:48
  The Ferraris, the Porsches, the Maseratis, whatever they might be.
• 34:52
  To your point, the 1995 Chrysler Maserati TC with the manual, nobody wanted
• 34:59
  that freaking thing to begin with.
• 35:00
  you It's not worth anything.
• 35:02
  So Brad, what else do we have in our historical lineup here on Lost and Found?
• 35:06
  If anybody's looking for some really cool cars that were owned by a very
• 35:11
  famous and talented drummer, Neil Peart's car collection is up for sale.
• 35:16
  Uh, many of you know, he was the, the drummer for Rush.
• 35:19
  He passed away, I believe it was last year.
• 35:21
  Uh, he's got a nice collection of cars.
• 35:24
  Most of them are still over, but he's got a really nice collection.
• 35:26
  A black Cobra in here.
• 35:28
  He's got a, looks like a Corvette Stingray, a Muera, there's
• 35:31
  a Jaguar E Type, there's a DB5, Maserati Mistral Spyder.
• 35:36
  And anyway, apparently Neil Peart liked silver vehicles.
• 35:39
  So there's a whole bunch of cars up for auction.
• 35:41
  If you've got the cash and you don't want to buy a brand new Ferrari with its little
• 35:46
  one eighth scale, Kid and go buy something that's actually worth some money.
• 35:50
  They call it more affectionately the silver surfer collection, which
• 35:53
  I think is actually really cool.
• 35:54
  And some of the pictures from the collection, when they kind of
• 35:57
  brought them out there, wherever they took pictures, it's like
• 35:59
  pebble beach or something like that.
• 36:00
  It's absolutely gorgeous collection.
• 36:01
  I mean, even if you're not into those cars, you can appreciate what he
• 36:06
  picked and what he had and all that.
• 36:08
  And hopefully they go to good homes.
• 36:09
  You know, they don't maybe just end up in a museum somewhere.
• 36:11
  Hopefully they get driven and they'll just be out there for people to enjoy.
• 36:15
  I have to say I'm really loving the silver paint with the red interiors.
• 36:20
  Since we're talking about historical stuff, you know, we talked about
• 36:23
  it several times on the show.
• 36:24
  We're always talking about barn finds.
• 36:26
  And I came across an article from one of our many sources and it was
• 36:30
  like the most dramatic barn finds.
• 36:34
  And as I dig into this and I'm like, come on guys, I enjoy
• 36:37
  a restoration show or two.
• 36:40
  I don't know that I need an American pickers.
• 36:44
  Type of barn find show with a bunch of people that I can't stand finding
• 36:48
  cars that I could care less about.
• 36:50
  You know what I mean?
• 36:51
  And I looked through some of this list and it's like 1971 Cadillac ambulance.
• 36:57
  And I'm like, yeah, so three of those, like two months
• 36:59
  ago, I mean, like big deal.
• 37:00
  You know what I mean?
• 37:01
  So some of the stuff is just like, wah, wah.
• 37:03
  And then there's already other shows like this on motor trend, where you
• 37:08
  can watch like autobiography and really get into some of the deep
• 37:11
  nerdy historical stuff about why.
• 37:14
  Certain barn find cars are more significant than others.
• 37:18
  Like there's one on this list.
• 37:19
  It's like, Oh, rare 1969 trans am found in Alaska.
• 37:23
  How many 1969 trans amps did they build?
• 37:26
  50, 000 of them.
• 37:27
  I mean, it's, it's when we're talking about cars in super low numbers, like
• 37:31
  the story that we mentioned before about the car that does this thing.
• 37:34
  Bugatti 57 G tank.
• 37:37
  It was on the episode with Mary and Marianne from Moon Mark.
• 37:39
  We talked about that car briefly in the pit stop.
• 37:42
  That car has a tragic back history.
• 37:44
  You know, being buried underground or World War II, they almost
• 37:47
  forgot where they put it.
• 37:48
  They were, you know, they were lucky the car wasn't destroyed.
• 37:50
  It's a one of one, you know, all these kinds of things.
• 37:53
  That's a barn find.
• 37:54
  That's craziness.
• 37:56
  You know, yes.
• 37:56
  Granted there's some collector finds out there.
• 37:58
  Like we talked about last month where, It's a barn full of Pontiacs.
• 38:01
  And you're like, all right, that's cool.
• 38:03
  You know, they're going up for auction and maybe they'll turn
• 38:04
  into some really neat hot rods.
• 38:06
  But I don't know that I can do another, you know, junkyard gold
• 38:10
  and just be like, okay, great.
• 38:12
  I think GTM should start a show called the farm find where you go to the mountain and
• 38:17
  you look at all the Mercury sables and the Mercury wagons and the Ford Taurus wagons.
• 38:22
  And the mark four burial ground that's up there.
• 38:26
  They call that an Easter egg hunt in West Virginia.
• 38:28
  Okay.
• 38:28
  I just want to point that out.
• 38:29
  Sorry, West Virginia listeners.
• 38:31
  I'm just saying.
• 38:33
  All right.
• 38:34
  But there is a really interesting barn find that we discovered.
• 38:38
  So we've got a barn vine for you.
• 38:40
  It's a Lamborghini Countach.
• 38:42
  Apparently it was found in a basement.
• 38:44
  Why don't you tell us a little bit more about it, Eric?
• 38:47
  So apparently this guy decided that he was going to build himself a A Lambo.
• 38:52
  So he built it.
• 38:53
  It's not, he didn't find it.
• 38:55
  He, he, he built it?
• 38:57
  He built it in his basement.
• 38:59
  So this isn't a barn find.
• 39:01
  It's a build find.
• 39:03
  It has been unearthed, and it took him 17 years to assemble.
• 39:07
  You know, much like
• 39:08
  Unearthed from what?
• 39:10
  Underground.
• 39:10
  It was in a basement.
• 39:13
  It's literally unearthed.
• 39:14
  He
• 39:14
  built it in his basement.
• 39:15
  He didn't find it in a basement.
• 39:17
  Other people found that he was taking it out of his basement.
• 39:21
  Wait, this thing is made of wood?
• 39:24
  Or he just built a wood, the wood, uh, carcass so that he could do
• 39:28
  fiberglass molding around it.
• 39:30
  He built it himself in the basement, like that Johnny
• 39:33
  Cash.
• 39:34
  Yes, okay, so it's actually made of wood
• 39:38
  and they didn't call the police They didn't call the insane asylum about this
• 39:42
  guy building a Lamborghini in his basement
• 39:45
  Well, you know what the hell he was building.
• 39:46
  He could have been building furniture down there at the
• 39:48
  tiniest point was made of wood
• 39:51
  Whoa Back up
• 39:53
  someone commented in the comment section of this video Frequently asked questions
• 39:57
  about the video fact updates Number one, is the car frame made out of wood?
• 40:05
  The answer is no.
• 40:07
  That was the jig to form the body panels off.
• 40:09
  The frame is tubular steel, which fast forwarding, I did see that,
• 40:13
  but I was horrified at first when
• 40:16
  I saw nothing but wood.
• 40:18
  I was going to say, I didn't realize that the original Lamborghini Countach
• 40:21
  built by Lamborghini was made of wood.
• 40:24
  No, but the fact that No, go ahead.
• 40:26
  The fun facts of this comment will solve all these issues.
• 40:30
  Please.
• 40:31
  I just got to say, you got it.
• 40:32
  Okay.
• 40:33
  You got to hand it to this guy.
• 40:34
  He didn't want to buy one.
• 40:36
  He wanted to build one.
• 40:37
  And I think we know somebody that is right along these lines.
• 40:40
  So Tanya, please educate us a little bit more.
• 40:43
  And that was frequently asked question.
• 40:45
  Number two, why waste 17 years of your life?
• 40:48
  Just get another job and buy the car.
• 40:50
  As you said, it was his passion and it was his hobby.
• 40:53
  So that's what he was
• 40:55
  cheap.
• 40:57
  Well, I'm not sure if this caused issues in his, in his marriage, but anyway,
• 41:01
  number three, since we're talking,
• 41:04
  my guess is number three is what model.
• 41:07
  Chevrolet small block they put in it to power it.
• 41:10
  Oh, that's not asked anywhere.
• 41:12
  But number three, to address this whole basement find thing, why
• 41:18
  didn't you build it in the garage?
• 41:20
  So you did not have to destroy your basement wall.
• 41:23
  You went to hide from your wife.
• 41:24
  Apparently they have cold winters.
• 41:27
  And he would freeze in the garage, but the basement was warm.
• 41:30
  I mean, the
• 41:31
  logic is sound.
• 41:32
  I mean, every one of these points so far, it is sound logic.
• 41:36
  This is informative for me because I did not watch the whole video.
• 41:39
  So he built a full sized car in his basement with no way to
• 41:44
  extricate it from said basement.
• 41:46
  So he demoed the side of the house.
• 41:48
  To pull it out.
• 41:51
  That's, that's not an original idea though, because there was a
• 41:55
  top gear episode where a guy was building a car in his kitchen.
• 41:58
  It started as just putting a couple of little things together and
• 42:01
  then he wasn't paying attention to the measurements or whatever.
• 42:04
  And then all of a sudden he had a full blown car.
• 42:07
  Yeah, but it didn't
• 42:08
  take them 17 years to do it.
• 42:09
  A few years and they had to knock out a wall to get the car out.
• 42:14
  Apparently this poor gentleman has gotten a lot of flack about this
• 42:17
  build much to the 17 years, you know, and then why are you selling it?
• 42:23
  It was your dream.
• 42:24
  It took you 17 years.
• 42:26
  Apparently it was a rough 17 years and this car is a reminder of that.
• 42:31
  And so that's why A big reason of why he's getting rid of it.
• 42:34
  Well, that and the termites ate the frame and it doesn't actually run.
• 42:38
  And it's copper to get there.
• 42:39
  No.
• 42:40
  Was it was made of, it was made of tubular steel and aluminum,
• 42:42
  but, uh, I, I think that's bs It is two by fours wrapped in
• 42:46
  aluminum foil and spray painted.
• 42:47
  Okay.
• 42:48
  . There is no way.
• 42:50
  That's possible, but number six here, and I've skipped number five, because
• 42:54
  it's stupidity about how to pronounce aluminum, aluminum, number six, a comment,
• 42:59
  really, not a question, 89, 000 profit.
• 43:03
  I guess that's what he was trying to sell the car for 89, 000 profit
• 43:06
  divided by 17 years is 5, 235 a year, not including cost of build.
• 43:11
  Complete waste of time.
• 43:13
  And what about cost of divorce lawyers and all that stuff?
• 43:16
  That's total cost of ownership.
• 43:18
  We don't do that
• 43:19
  now.
• 43:19
  Which this person replied, it's not a waste of time.
• 43:21
  Everyone has hobbies.
• 43:22
  Most people watch TV, read a book, or play a computer game to waste kill time.
• 43:26
  How much do you earn per year for doing that?
• 43:28
  Dude, again, this guy, he is grounded in sound logic.
• 43:33
  It's like arguing with mountain man, Dan, you're not going to win.
• 43:36
  I'm just letting you know in advance.
• 43:37
  This is somebody on behalf of this guy, by the
• 43:39
  way,
• 43:41
  he's got an advocate.
• 43:43
  Oh, holy cow.
• 43:44
  He's number one fan, probably more than we have, but there's another car.
• 43:49
  That has also resurfaced.
• 43:52
  And I remember when I saw this car many years ago, and it is
• 43:55
  now available on Craigslist.
• 43:57
  What do we got?
• 43:57
  Brad
• 43:58
  Volkswagen Beetle
• 43:59
  in early two thousands.
• 44:01
  And what's special about this Bele, they, they made a billion beetles.
• 44:04
  I mean, come on.
• 44:05
  Oh, what's special?
• 44:06
  It's an automatic.
• 44:07
  Oh really?
• 44:08
  It's silver.
• 44:09
  It's got a sunroof powered by a, a jet engine.
• 44:13
  Excuse me, what?
• 44:15
  A General Electric Model T58 85
• 44:19
  With
• 44:20
  afterburner.
• 44:20
  8F rocket, basically.
• 44:24
  This thing is awesome.
• 44:25
  I remember when this thing got built and it was like all over the interwebs,
• 44:29
  you know, it was on E Bombs World and everything else back in the day.
• 44:32
  But to see it back on Craigslist, I was like, you know what?
• 44:35
  Why the F not send it, man, get it out there.
• 44:38
  I guess he's finally done with it.
• 44:39
  I don't know how he drives this freaking car.
• 44:42
  It is an impressive piece of machinery.
• 44:44
  I do appreciate if you look at the detailed photographs in the Craigslist
• 44:49
  ad that he paid a whopping 5 to list this car on is the dashboard.
• 44:54
  His instrument cluster is.
• 44:56
  Something I'd like to replicate.
• 44:58
  Literally beat me to it.
• 44:59
  I was waiting for a pause so that I could say the key takeaway out of
• 45:03
  all this for me is the uniqueness of the instrument cluster.
• 45:07
  He added on I'm intrigued now.
• 45:10
  I have to think about this offline.
• 45:12
  So good
• 45:12
  comes out of the crazy.
• 45:14
  All I know is I do not want to be behind this guy in traffic.
• 45:17
  You should be beside him and hold out some really long skewers
• 45:21
  with a marshmallow on the end.
• 45:23
  I mean, he's got like a four foot flame that comes out.
• 45:25
  The sad part is it's probably slow as dirt and loud as all get out, right?
• 45:30
  So what did he really achieve from the two point slow that
• 45:34
  he had in it to begin with?
• 45:35
  Because he probably added 1500 pounds on top of the weight of the car
• 45:40
  to have this jet engine in there.
• 45:42
  And
• 45:42
  I think it said the motor weighs the motor, the engine weighs 300 pounds.
• 45:48
  That seems awful light for as big as that thing.
• 45:50
  And by the way, just to throw it out there, because there's not the same
• 45:53
  kind of commentary on this as there was in the 17 year old Lamborghini.
• 45:56
  Where does one pick up a G E T 58 dash, all that serial number that Tanya read?
• 46:03
  Do you just buy that off like the Russian black market?
• 46:06
  Or do you go down to local Home Depot and pick that up?
• 46:08
  I mean,
• 46:08
  Well, Home Depot is where Tesla gets their car parts.
• 46:12
  You know, I, that's, that's a good question.
• 46:19
  Well, let's move on a little bit and let's recap something from last month.
• 46:23
  So, you know, we're talking about restoration shows, talking about barn
• 46:26
  finds, we're going to talk a little bit more in a little bit here about
• 46:29
  Jeremy Clarkson, but Richard Hammond, we said, has got his own show and it's
• 46:35
  all about restoring cars and restoring some of his cars in his collection.
• 46:38
  And, you know, he was pressed by interviewers and journalists
• 46:42
  as always, and they asked him to list his top five cars.
• 46:46
  So I read the article, it's pretty short, I hate to say,
• 46:49
  Richard Hammond, I'm a little bit unimpressed with your list, bro.
• 46:52
  You know, they made fun of you so much on the show about being in love with the
• 46:55
  Mustangs, and bringing over cars from America, and all this kind of stuff.
• 46:59
  Three of your five were Lamborghinis.
• 47:02
  Maybe I get it, you got a love for Lamborghini.
• 47:05
  I also recall you have a love for 911s.
• 47:07
  So where was that on the list?
• 47:09
  What was on the list though was a Bentley blower.
• 47:12
  I was like, Oh, that's cool.
• 47:13
  It showed a picture of a motorcycle.
• 47:14
  I was like, what's that got to do with cars?
• 47:16
  But I got to tip my hat.
• 47:17
  Top of his list is Oliver, the Opel cadet from the Africa
• 47:21
  special that they did mad prompts.
• 47:23
  It is actually really a cool car.
• 47:25
  And I'm glad he saved that thing from the brink of extinction.
• 47:28
  A little bit want why there too is expecting more, something
• 47:31
  a little bit more diverse.
• 47:32
  Uh, kind of like we talked about Nicolas Cage's car collection last month and
• 47:35
  some of the other car collections of famous people, even, uh, Neil pert
• 47:39
  and the silver server collection.
• 47:40
  There's some cool stuff in there.
• 47:41
  So I'm like Richard Hammond, come on, man.
• 47:44
  Let's uh, let's jazz it up a little bit.
• 47:46
  And this is exactly why when you ask the question, Clarkson, Hammond, or May 99.
• 47:52
  9 percent of the time, nobody says Hammond,
• 47:56
  you know, and that's very true.
• 47:57
  And for those of you that haven't listened to our pit stop episodes, it is
• 48:01
  a question we will throw at our guests.
• 48:04
  We see what they say, and you're right.
• 48:06
  It does flip flop between Clarkson and may a lot.
• 48:09
  It's very rare that somebody will pick Richard Hammond, and maybe he's just.
• 48:13
  Secretly boring.
• 48:15
  I don't want to get the secret.
• 48:18
  Oh, who knows
• 48:19
  so much to the secretly boring, but that Clarkson is like one
• 48:24
  end of the pendulum of extreme.
• 48:27
  And then may is the other end of the pendulum.
• 48:31
  And I think Hammond's just kind of somewhere in between.
• 48:34
  And so people are gravitating towards the sarcastic, angry, extreme, or
• 48:41
  the, he's so boring and painful.
• 48:43
  Like, you know, I, I, I can't stop watching.
• 48:45
  It's like a train wreck.
• 48:46
  I have to say I'd have a beer with you.
• 48:48
  Either of them are all of them.
• 48:50
  So it worked for me either way.
• 48:52
  But yeah, I'm just, you know, like a little disappointed and
• 48:55
  speaking of being disappointed.
• 48:57
  I also came across another video.
• 48:58
  I believe I saw it on garage riot and it was like the biggest
• 49:01
  flops and automotive history.
• 49:03
  And I was like, getting excited because we did an ugly cars episode this past year.
• 49:07
  And I was like, Ooh, maybe some fun.
• 49:09
  to add to our list of just heinous vehicles.
• 49:13
  And it was just another wild moment, but I will say it opened with the DeLorean.
• 49:18
  And I was like, Oh, wait, hold on.
• 49:19
  You have my attention.
• 49:20
  What's going on here?
• 49:21
  Like we all know the tragic backstory, the mockumentaries that came out, like
• 49:25
  being John DeLorean and all that kind of fun stuff that we reviewed during COVID.
• 49:28
  Biggest flop.
• 49:29
  I don't know.
• 49:30
  There's a cult following behind the DeLorean.
• 49:32
  So, okay.
• 49:33
  You got me.
• 49:34
  I'm going to watch the rest of the episode.
• 49:35
  It was about.
• 49:36
  20 minutes or so, you know, long enough for YouTube people to just
• 49:40
  kind of move on to the next thing.
• 49:42
  It followed up with the GM EV1.
• 49:45
  I was like, okay, well, I don't know that that was a flop so much
• 49:48
  as the way that was presented a lot of historical information there.
• 49:51
  And then it's like, oh yeah.
• 49:52
  And by the way, they were really lease cars and GM took them back.
• 49:55
  I was like, okay, well, that's the real story, but I don't know that
• 49:57
  that's a flop so much as it was like a real life beta test, you know?
• 50:01
  So I wouldn't consider that a flop.
• 50:03
  Then there was.
• 50:04
  The Edsel, the Ford Edsel.
• 50:06
  We make fun of that thing relentlessly.
• 50:08
  It's hideous.
• 50:08
  It was on our ugly cars episode.
• 50:10
  It is not a great car.
• 50:11
  Convince me.
• 50:12
  Otherwise, all of our three Arbitron rated listeners that are out there, you
• 50:16
  know, convince me otherwise that the Edsel is good, but there is a car that
• 50:19
  we agreed on in the ugly car episode, especially the B sides that was on this
• 50:25
  list and I was shocked and this is what made the video worth watching for me.
• 50:30
  Would you guys like to guess what it was?
• 50:32
  Well, I don't know why I'm trying to like click through it.
• 50:34
  And there's just so much of this dude sitting here and nothing
• 50:37
  else, but is it the Cimarron?
• 50:39
  Yes.
• 50:40
  And the citation, both of them together in the episode.
• 50:44
  And I was like, boom, these cars are finally getting some props.
• 50:48
  They're getting some showtime.
• 50:49
  I was like, all right, because otherwise nobody would give two figs.
• 50:52
  About these two cars, but we did talk about them on that episode.
• 50:56
  And I thought it was hilarious and an awesome coincidence
• 50:58
  that I came across that.
• 50:59
  So again, if you haven't watched it, it'll be in the show notes, check it out
• 51:02
  for yourself and learn about all these terrible cars, but now it's time to talk
• 51:06
  about random EVs and concept cars over
• 51:09
  the top.
• 51:09
  I have to start this one with rich people, doing rich people things.
• 51:13
  Oh man.
• 51:14
  What are we talking about?
• 51:15
  The Bugatti baby too, again?
• 51:17
  Is
• 51:18
  there a baby three?
• 51:19
  Baby three?
• 51:20
  No.
• 51:21
  My baby two's on order.
• 51:23
  No, this actually is Porsche, but it's actually not really rich
• 51:27
  people doing rich people things.
• 51:28
  Cause this is a one off build that I think is going to go up on auction.
• 51:32
  So I guess a rich person will buy it, but it is a small size replica.
• 51:39
  Of a Porsche 917 30.
• 51:42
  That's the Can Am Porsche Audi blue, yellow liveried.
• 51:46
  917
• 51:47
  correct.
• 51:48
  And essentially it's a go kart with the 917 body on it.
• 51:53
  I like it.
• 51:53
  That sounds way better than the Bugatti baby too.
• 51:58
  And you know what got me about this article?
• 52:00
  Because we just did our karting showdown last month at pit race.
• 52:04
  It made me think for a minute, like if you could put a body like How cool would
• 52:09
  it be to have a race that's like a mini IMSA or WEC where you're in a go kart
• 52:16
  that looks like a legendary race car?
• 52:18
  Think about how awesome that would be.
• 52:21
  This sounds like the power wheels races, or it could be like,
• 52:27
  let's all use cardboard and make some bodies for our go kart.
• 52:32
  I love how she goes to cardboard.
• 52:34
  You know, that's, that's the tip for the guy who built the
• 52:36
  Lamborghini in his basement.
• 52:37
  You should have made the body out of cardboard.
• 52:41
  Then you could have folded it up and brought it up out through
• 52:44
  the house and then unfolded it.
• 52:46
  See how easy that would have been just a little bit of science, just a little bit.
• 52:50
  And that would have been more ecologically friendly because when he was done
• 52:53
  with it, he could have recycled it, but what's he going to do with that?
• 52:55
  But nevermind, let's, let's move on.
• 52:57
  Well, for this, I actually think you're onto something with the
• 53:02
  go kart racing of these classic liveried and classic bodied vehicles.
• 53:06
  And I think if Dr.
• 53:07
  T and race are listening to this episode, there's a business model
• 53:11
  in here that you should tap into.
• 53:13
  This is an untapped market.
• 53:15
  Can you imagine?
• 53:16
  It'd be bonkers.
• 53:16
  And I heard a guy talking the other day about how he was going to purchase the
• 53:21
  option package for his Tesla so that it could sound like a hemi challenger
• 53:25
  while he was going down the road.
• 53:26
  Apparently they mount these speakers and they can like project the sound.
• 53:30
  So it sounds like something else.
• 53:32
  And I'm like, put that on the go cart.
• 53:34
  So it doesn't sound like a weed whacker.
• 53:35
  Can you imagine being like a Ferrari 333 SP replica mini?
• 53:39
  And it sounds like you got a screaming V12, boom, mental.
• 53:44
  I would, I would love this.
• 53:45
  I'm on board.
• 53:45
  Sign me up.
• 53:46
  Meanwhile, back in concept car land.
• 53:49
  Yeah.
• 53:49
  So in concept cars, there's something called the mini Urbanaut that apparently
• 53:54
  is no longer a concept car was going to be now a real car, or at least a
• 53:59
  prototype is actually being built.
• 54:01
  And you're probably going, what is this exactly?
• 54:05
  The best way to describe it is.
• 54:08
  Think of a Volkswagen ID buzz, and then you have this car.
• 54:11
  Which it looks like a hundred percent.
• 54:13
  Yes.
• 54:14
  It very much looks an even more futuristic looking ID buzz essentially.
• 54:19
  And especially with the color choice.
• 54:22
  that they use.
• 54:23
  It's very modern, urban looking.
• 54:26
  It's all about modular insides.
• 54:29
  I think it might be trying to be self driving as well.
• 54:32
  So really the inside is, is all about kind of being a little mini living
• 54:35
  room and that you can rearrange the furniture, if you will, the passenger
• 54:40
  seating and all this, and it's very plush and funky and cool looking.
• 54:45
  What confused me about this at first, I didn't realize this was a mini.
• 54:50
  Like mini Cooper, mini BMW, mini, right?
• 54:53
  So this is their entry into this market.
• 54:55
  And I was like, all right.
• 54:56
  What also confused me is I thought I was watching an episode of
• 54:59
  whatever that show is on like HGTV where they build a mini houses.
• 55:03
  I didn't understand what was going on.
• 55:05
  They look like shots of like a really futuristic, like living room.
• 55:08
  When they show it looks gargantuan inside when it's obviously it's
• 55:11
  not, but it's got like a bed.
• 55:13
  Yeah.
• 55:14
  It had like a flat sofa, essentially.
• 55:16
  That you could sleep on.
• 55:17
  Yeah.
• 55:18
  It's a futon.
• 55:19
  Yeah.
• 55:20
  I mean, well, I mean, it doesn't fold out, but it's like a bench seat, but
• 55:22
  it looks like a fancy modern sofa.
• 55:26
  There's just so many weird things about it, but they're also super engaging.
• 55:30
  Like when you look at it, almost hyper futuristic.
• 55:33
  What really got me is the wheels and tires.
• 55:35
  How did they do that?
• 55:36
  Cause it looks like something that you'd see on like a Tonka
• 55:38
  toy or a play school thing.
• 55:40
  I just, I want to know more.
• 55:42
  They almost look all one piece, which almost makes me question
• 55:45
  if it's that, uh, who made that?
• 55:47
  Was it Goodyear?
• 55:48
  I think it might've been Goodyear.
• 55:49
  They were experimenting with like the hollow rubber tires that don't need
• 55:54
  air and they're all like honeycombed looking and this, that, and the other.
• 55:58
  I'm almost wondering if something like that's going on here.
• 56:01
  The other thing that I didn't understand was Some of the parts that
• 56:04
  are modular and some of the parts that aren't like, it's a hatchback.
• 56:08
  Let's just go there right away.
• 56:10
  But it's got the sliding doors, like a minivan,
• 56:13
  the front windshield lifts up.
• 56:14
  That's where I was going.
• 56:15
  Like, I don't understand that.
• 56:17
  Why would you want that?
• 56:19
  I guess if you're camping.
• 56:20
  Then you get the cross flow.
• 56:22
  Like, is that the idea?
• 56:24
  The one thing I could see about this is, you know, you hear the rumors
• 56:27
  and they're not really rumors like developers in California, they're not
• 56:30
  buying houses, they're buying RVs and they're living out of their RVs on,
• 56:33
  you know, the streets of Palo Alto and Sunnyvale and stuff like that.
• 56:36
  So I'm wondering like.
• 56:38
  Is this the answer?
• 56:39
  Like I'm plugging my mini Urbanaut and I can open it up and let it breathe.
• 56:43
  And I'm not in a Winnebago, you know, kind of thing, but you also
• 56:46
  have like zero privacy in this thing because of the way it's made.
• 56:49
  There's no way you could live in this.
• 56:51
  Yes.
• 56:51
  You could nap.
• 56:52
  You could sleep.
• 56:53
  It's not big enough.
• 56:54
  Where are you cooking?
• 56:55
  It's not a camper van that has a mini stove and a fridge and all those things.
• 57:01
  And maybe they slide out and do a little transformers thing.
• 57:04
  And all of a sudden you got, you know, all these other accoutrements in the vehicle.
• 57:07
  This isn't that, it's literally kind of like an enclosed lounge.
• 57:12
  It's very
• 57:12
  strange.
• 57:14
  As we switch gears, there is some good news in the electrified world.
• 57:18
  More progress being made in terms of electrifying America.
• 57:23
  It's literally ha ha ha.
• 57:24
  So Electrify America has hit their 600 station mark in
• 57:29
  trying to Electrify America.
• 57:31
  That's good.
• 57:32
  You know, we need that because that'll help people with range anxiety.
• 57:35
  And obviously even without that, we need charging stations.
• 57:39
  If Electric vehicles are going to be more of a thing.
• 57:41
  People can't rely on being able to just go back and forth to their home all day.
• 57:45
  So this is good news.
• 57:46
  And there's more companies than just Electrify America that are building
• 57:49
  charging stations and whatnot.
• 57:51
  And actually to follow up on this.
• 57:54
  I know I'm jumping ahead.
• 57:56
  I hate to be remiss, but Tesla actually announced that they're
• 58:01
  opening their charging networks or they're going to plan to open their
• 58:06
  charging networks to other EVs.
• 58:08
  That's if you have the adapter, right?
• 58:10
  Because they have a proprietary connector or whatever.
• 58:13
  That's how they're going to get you.
• 58:14
  You got to buy the adapter from Tesla to be compatible with EVs.
• 58:18
  Oh, the Apple model.
• 58:19
  A hundred percent.
• 58:20
  Exactly.
• 58:21
  That's all.
• 58:22
  That's all I knew it was coming.
• 58:23
  You know, it honestly, it doesn't specify, but that's a great point.
• 58:26
  That very well could be the case.
• 58:28
  Oh, order your Tesla adapter now for the low, low price of 10 million Bitcoin.
• 58:34
  And you too can charge on our ultra fast charging network.
• 58:37
  How many carbon credits do I get if I buy the Tesla adapter?
• 58:41
  They have a glut of those now, right?
• 58:43
  Because everybody's giving them back.
• 58:45
  We talked about it on the previous episode as well.
• 58:47
  But, you know, going back to this Electrify America thing, if somebody's
• 58:50
  doing the rough numbers, 600 stations across 50 states, or even 48 states,
• 58:55
  we're talking roughly a dozen.
• 58:57
  It's like, Ooh, ah, that's not that many.
• 59:00
  That's not the concentration, right?
• 59:01
  There's a lot of Electrify America stations along the East coast.
• 59:04
  We, one of our members has specifically been talking to us about their
• 59:08
  experience with their electric vehicle, going from the DC area to Florida
• 59:12
  and back and using the Electrify America grid and things like that.
• 59:16
  So it's been working for them.
• 59:18
  I've also heard recently in a conversation over a business lunch
• 59:21
  where somebody was talking about, Hey, You know, I, I got an electric car.
• 59:24
  I love it.
• 59:24
  It's super fast.
• 59:25
  It's awesome.
• 59:26
  But I really don't have time to sit around and wait for it to be charged.
• 59:29
  So they still have a petrol car because it, in the joke to that was, and I just
• 59:33
  kind of nodded my head and went along with the conversation was, I don't even
• 59:36
  want to waste the time to wait to pump the fuel if you're that busy, I get it.
• 59:40
  So to your point, there's a lot of things going on with this
• 59:43
  between the range anxiety and.
• 59:44
  Between the impatience of having to wait.
• 59:47
  And, you know, I get it 80 percent charge in 30 minutes.
• 59:50
  That's still 30 minutes versus how long does it take to pump 10 gallons of gas?
• 59:55
  Right?
• 59:55
  I mean, we've had these arguments before.
• 59:57
  I'll address two things.
• 59:58
  First, I want to react to that comment that he's too busy to
• 1:00:01
  pump gasoline into his tank.
• 1:00:04
  If you're that busy in your life, you need to examine your life.
• 1:00:07
  If you don't have several minutes out of your day, once a week, or even
• 1:00:12
  once every couple of weeks, I don't know, you got some issues going on.
• 1:00:17
  Okay.
• 1:00:18
  Now the article actually has a map of all their stations across the country.
• 1:00:23
  And honestly, they've done a good job.
• 1:00:24
  So yes, you're right.
• 1:00:25
  States like North Dakota and South Dakota don't have stations,
• 1:00:29
  and that probably makes sense.
• 1:00:31
  There is a heavy concentration going down the east coast, but if you look
• 1:00:34
  at their network that they show, they've pretty much created a network
• 1:00:37
  that you have major arteries that you can take cross country trips.
• 1:00:41
  without a problem and you're going on the route that you would normally take.
• 1:00:45
  Anyway,
• 1:00:46
  that makes sense.
• 1:00:47
  You follow route 50 or 66 or some of the big ones, you know, like that as an
• 1:00:51
  example, those, those are classic roads.
• 1:00:53
  It would make sense to start with those major arteries then, you
• 1:00:56
  know, side roads and whatnot.
• 1:00:58
  Yeah.
• 1:00:58
  You're just not taking your country back roads like you could.
• 1:01:02
  If you wanted to take a nice extended road trip or something, stay off
• 1:01:05
  the highways and stuff like that.
• 1:01:07
  That's not something you're going to do with your electric car.
• 1:01:09
  But I mean,
• 1:01:10
  we have those problems even in certain areas of the US with gasoline to
• 1:01:13
  where I've time and time again, I've gotten off the highway and I'm like,
• 1:01:17
  cool, there's a sheets or something.
• 1:01:19
  I'm going to go get diesel and you get to the end of the ramp
• 1:01:21
  and it's like 5 miles that way.
• 1:01:23
  And you're like, Are you kidding me?
• 1:01:25
  You know what I mean?
• 1:01:25
  So sometimes even fuel or petrol is not convenient either.
• 1:01:29
  Now in big turnpikes and stuff, you get on, you get off, you keep going.
• 1:01:33
  I mean, in, in the DMV 95, there's a gas station every like three feet.
• 1:01:37
  So it's not that big of a deal, but you get out there in the middle of nowhere
• 1:01:40
  and you're like, Even to go into some of these tracks and you're like, you have to
• 1:01:42
  actually go out of your way to find fuel.
• 1:01:45
  So I think it'll work out.
• 1:01:47
  It's just going to take time, you know, more than anything.
• 1:01:49
  And so I think some of that is also dependent upon where the
• 1:01:53
  electrical lines are, right?
• 1:01:55
  They're going to have to follow that.
• 1:01:56
  It's like almost like following the rail lines, right?
• 1:01:58
  If the electricity, the pipe isn't there to tap into, they
• 1:02:01
  can't put in a filling station.
• 1:02:03
  I get it.
• 1:02:03
  Makes sense.
• 1:02:04
  Switching to a.
• 1:02:06
  Interesting recall that isn't the first.
• 1:02:09
  GM has basically said, if you own a Chevy Bolt, Bolt with
• 1:02:12
  a B, don't park it indoors.
• 1:02:14
  There is a, a recall specifically around the battery and the charging system
• 1:02:20
  that can basically ignite the car burnt to the ground, you know, potential
• 1:02:24
  house burning on that kind of stuff.
• 1:02:25
  We got a recall, same basic TSB from Chrysler.
• 1:02:28
  We have a Pacifica hybrid and they got taken care of.
• 1:02:30
  It was like a five minute fix.
• 1:02:31
  Fix it's something they attach to the connector on the battery so that
• 1:02:36
  it doesn't basically fry the system and melt the car to the ground.
• 1:02:39
  So just basically a public service announcement.
• 1:02:41
  If you happen to be one of our three Arbitron rated listeners out there and
• 1:02:44
  own a Chevy bolt, take it in to your dealer and get this free recall done so
• 1:02:50
  that, you know, you don't cause a, a fire.
• 1:02:52
  So the recommendation from GM is park it outdoors.
• 1:02:54
  I don't know how that makes it better, but it just doesn't burn
• 1:02:57
  your house down.
• 1:02:58
  Yeah, that's pretty much it.
• 1:02:59
  But, but, but.
• 1:03:00
  What about the fact that this wasn't breaking news on every major news outlet
• 1:03:05
  and thrown in your face every two seconds?
• 1:03:07
  I mean, if this had happened to Tesla, we would have been hearing
• 1:03:10
  about it for weeks and weeks.
• 1:03:11
  And it would have been the hot news on every major news outlet
• 1:03:14
  and on TV, it would have broken in as Breaking news in the middle
• 1:03:19
  of, you know, Netflix and binge.
• 1:03:21
  I mean, what the heck, come on.
• 1:03:23
  Why is it always Tesla?
• 1:03:24
  Well, we already know that they burned down in parking garages, right?
• 1:03:27
  We've seen that time and time again.
• 1:03:29
  So, I mean, is that really news anymore?
• 1:03:31
  Well, you know what I'd like to address because it kills me.
• 1:03:34
  You want to know why everyone makes a big deal about Tesla is because
• 1:03:38
  when you put a bullseye on your back, that's what's going to happen.
• 1:03:42
  When you're selling Cubix or Cognia.
• 1:03:45
  At the price of diamonds.
• 1:03:47
  Yeah, people are gonna pay attention to you.
• 1:03:50
  And maybe it's my perception, but I don't think Chevy, Ford, any of them
• 1:03:55
  have ever pretended that their cars are perfect and that they don't have
• 1:03:58
  recalls and they don't have issues.
• 1:04:00
  They don't sit there saying that their cars are the best thing since
• 1:04:02
  the invention of sliced bread.
• 1:04:04
  So if you act like you're the hottest thing and then you're using Home
• 1:04:08
  Depot to, you know, Build your cars.
• 1:04:10
  Of course, you're going to get more attention.
• 1:04:12
  And all old Volt so I can smell like melted crayons.
• 1:04:15
  We can't figure out why, but we've come to accept it.
• 1:04:17
  It's part of their charm, right?
• 1:04:19
  It's not a defect.
• 1:04:19
  It's a feature.
• 1:04:21
  I mean, I know I'm probably offending people when I say that, but it's just
• 1:04:24
  like, you know, I don't know, whatever.
• 1:04:27
  It's a shift in the status quo, I suppose.
• 1:04:30
  But there's an interesting bit of news.
• 1:04:32
  For our friends that like to mod their cars, right, Brad?
• 1:04:36
  So in California, when they do their small checks, they're going
• 1:04:39
  to start testing for ECU tunes.
• 1:04:41
  So anybody with a nice, fancy Volkswagen or Audi or whatever that likes to go
• 1:04:45
  and you get an ECU tune to get a little bit more power out of the car, uh,
• 1:04:49
  well, California is going to catch you.
• 1:04:51
  And what are they going to do to you?
• 1:04:52
  Put you in car jail?
• 1:04:53
  I mean, what are they going to do to you?
• 1:04:55
  Let's see, they're probably going to fine you, I'm sure.
• 1:04:58
  I
• 1:04:58
  mean, I get it.
• 1:04:59
  People, I mean, back in our day, right, of tuning when we were young and stupid
• 1:05:03
  and wasted money on that kind of stuff.
• 1:05:05
  And then now we just build race cars and waste more money.
• 1:05:07
  You know, we had two computers.
• 1:05:09
  You had the one that you put in the car when you took it to the dealer
• 1:05:11
  and the one that you put in the car when you drove it on the street.
• 1:05:14
  Uh, and even further back than that, you had the guys that were doing
• 1:05:17
  catalytic converter deletes, and then they would put one on to go to the
• 1:05:20
  test and then they would take it off.
• 1:05:22
  You know, the rest of the time.
• 1:05:23
  I mean, this, this stuff's been going on since what I feel is like the
• 1:05:26
  beginning of emissions testing, right?
• 1:05:28
  Everybody's always looking to get around it for one reason or
• 1:05:31
  another, and I'm not advocating.
• 1:05:32
  For and I'm not condoning the behavior in any stretch of the imagination.
• 1:05:36
  So the point I get California's point, a lot of these tunes that, you
• 1:05:39
  know, you want to talk about diesel gate and all that kind of stuff and
• 1:05:42
  changing the mapping of the motor.
• 1:05:43
  Yes.
• 1:05:44
  They're now out of the regulated approved, you know, cafe rules that they have
• 1:05:48
  out there and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:05:49
  And so these cars are polluting more, you know, you make more
• 1:05:53
  power, you burn more fuel.
• 1:05:54
  It's pretty simple.
• 1:05:55
  And that means you're emitting more as well.
• 1:05:58
  I don't fault them for cracking down.
• 1:06:00
  No.
• 1:06:00
  But on the same token, you know, what's the statute of limitations
• 1:06:03
  here is this apply to cars that are 20 years old, but probably not.
• 1:06:07
  Are they still going to emissions?
• 1:06:09
  You know, things like that.
• 1:06:10
  Is it just for the newest of new cars?
• 1:06:12
  How are they going to tell when your ECU has been tuned, right?
• 1:06:16
  Because again, maybe they haven't released these specifics, but the
• 1:06:19
  tuners aren't dumb either, right?
• 1:06:21
  Well, if this is what they're looking for and it needs to show up a certain way,
• 1:06:25
  I'm not playing a conspiracy theory here.
• 1:06:27
  People thrive on these businesses and the aftermarket is bred around making
• 1:06:31
  cars better and tuning them, making them more powerful and whatever have you.
• 1:06:36
  So I'm really kind of curious to see how this pans out in the next decade.
• 1:06:39
  year.
• 1:06:39
  Now, this apparently went into effect on the 19th of July.
• 1:06:43
  If you're within this window, starting now and the next two years out,
• 1:06:47
  you're going to be going through these rolling emissions testing, right?
• 1:06:50
  So if we have any California listeners out there, let us know.
• 1:06:54
  We're very curious to see what happens.
• 1:06:56
  So give us a shout.
• 1:06:57
  Now joining the bandwagon, right?
• 1:06:59
  Uh, all these green initiatives, you know, we've heard several times on here from
• 1:07:03
  the manufacturers directly of when they've put an edict on the tree to say, Hey,
• 1:07:07
  we're done with petrol engines, right?
• 1:07:09
  We've heard numbers 20, 25, 26, 32, you know, they're kind of all over
• 1:07:14
  the map in the next five to 10 years, Canada, our friends in Canada have
• 1:07:19
  come to the table and said the moose.
• 1:07:22
  have declared no more petrol in 2035.
• 1:07:25
  So they're the furthest ones out as far as I can recall from all the
• 1:07:28
  research that we've done up until this point over the last year.
• 1:07:32
  So Canada is saying no more petrol power in 2035.
• 1:07:36
  So the Moose, thank you.
• 1:07:37
  And we thank you too.
• 1:07:38
  One last piece of random EV and concept car news.
• 1:07:43
  Hold on to your seats.
• 1:07:45
  The king of kit cars has been dethroned.
• 1:07:48
  Dun, dun, dun!
• 1:07:51
  The famous, maybe infamous, at least on our show, the Pontiac Fiero, Brad's
• 1:07:57
  favorite car, has recently been usurped by a gentleman who turned his Porsche Boxster
• 1:08:04
  into a very legitimate looking McLaren.
• 1:08:08
  Dun, dun, dun!
• 1:08:08
  Talk about kit car potential.
• 1:08:11
  That being said, Fiero and the Boxster, they share nothing in common
• 1:08:15
  other than the fact that they're mid engine rear wheel drive cars.
• 1:08:18
  But I like the fact that somebody went there and said, we can do
• 1:08:21
  something cool with a Boxster, especially an early Boxster.
• 1:08:25
  They're getting really cheap.
• 1:08:26
  There's a jillion of them out there and it kind of makes sense
• 1:08:30
  to start doing something like that.
• 1:08:31
  It looks pretty cool.
• 1:08:32
  Legitimately good.
• 1:08:33
  A lot better than some of the other kit cars we've talked about in the
• 1:08:36
  past, like the Vader that's built on top of the, you know, G35, G37
• 1:08:40
  infinities, you know, stuff like that.
• 1:08:41
  And the old Fiero kits, they just weren't proportioned right for some of these cars.
• 1:08:46
  But I think this Boxster one looks pretty cool.
• 1:08:48
  And if it wasn't enough, it's an EV.
• 1:08:51
  I don't understand the whole kid car based off Fiero or Beetle or
• 1:08:56
  Boxster or whatever the, I just, I think the whole thing is just dumb.
• 1:09:01
  If you want a McLaren, like somebody said in the comments on that other
• 1:09:05
  thing, uh, just get a second job or 15 jobs and you go buy one.
• 1:09:10
  It's so stupid.
• 1:09:11
  It's an automatic Boxster.
• 1:09:12
  It's still
• 1:09:13
  better than building it in your basement.
• 1:09:17
  Yeah, cardboard and wood
• 1:09:19
  with some aluminum foil.
• 1:09:21
  I don't get the whole, I want to look like somebody else.
• 1:09:24
  Just leave it a Boxster.
• 1:09:25
  It's worth more money as a Boxster.
• 1:09:27
  You're probably right about that.
• 1:09:28
  I got to hand it to this guy.
• 1:09:30
  It's a very quality job.
• 1:09:32
  It's a well done
• 1:09:33
  car thing, but McLaren, it is not.
• 1:09:36
  And now it's not even a Boxster.
• 1:09:38
  Which sadly brings us into our favorite section.
• 1:09:42
  Used to be called a side of golden nuggets.
• 1:09:45
  It was would you like fries with that?
• 1:09:47
  It's changed names several times.
• 1:09:49
  But now, thankfully, it's called we would be remiss.
• 1:09:54
  So Tanya, what would we be remiss about this month?
• 1:09:56
  If we didn't talk about it,
• 1:09:58
  I think we would be remiss if we didn't talk about Ford trademarking
• 1:10:02
  the skyline name in the United States.
• 1:10:05
  That's a great way to kick this off.
• 1:10:06
  So what's that?
• 1:10:08
  On July 12th, Ford applied for a United States patent and
• 1:10:13
  trademark for the term skyline.
• 1:10:16
  Now they, yeah, that is a great question, Eric.
• 1:10:19
  And I wish I could tell you why, but I really can't.
• 1:10:23
  Who knows, but apparently the name Skyline had been used by Ford in the
• 1:10:28
  past in a different, it was different.
• 1:10:30
  It was Skyliner.
• 1:10:31
  It was used on the Crestline, whatever the hell that is, the Fairlane Crown Victoria,
• 1:10:36
  the Fairlane 500, and the Galaxy.
• 1:10:39
  They all, I guess, had different models that were Skyliners.
• 1:10:42
  Uh, there was also a Ford Transit Skyliner in 2014, but none of them were Skyline.
• 1:10:48
  The only thing I can think of that was Ford Ford Skyline
• 1:10:51
  were back in the nineties.
• 1:10:53
  It was very popular for people to put GTR emblems and stuff on their
• 1:10:57
  F one fifties and their Mustang for, for God knows whatever reason.
• 1:11:03
  I don't know.
• 1:11:04
  People were dumb.
• 1:11:05
  They put it right next to their APC exhaust and, you know, Side
• 1:11:09
  vents and stuff or whatever.
• 1:11:10
  Now, as you all know, that the Nissan Skyline is no longer called.
• 1:11:15
  Well, first of all, the Skyline was never sold in the U.
• 1:11:17
  S.
• 1:11:17
  as a Skyline, but it's no longer being termed as a Skyline.
• 1:11:21
  Even the U.
• 1:11:22
  S.
• 1:11:22
  model is GTR.
• 1:11:24
  There is still a Skyline in Japan.
• 1:11:27
  Uh, which is basically a US Infinity Q 50, which is Rebadged over there as
• 1:11:31
  the skyline, but there are no other skylines in, uh, in the us So Ford,
• 1:11:36
  I mean, they have a right to do this.
• 1:11:37
  It's just strange.
• 1:11:39
  I don't get it.
• 1:11:40
  I'll put it this way.
• 1:11:41
  It is, and my Ford history isn't nearly as strong as some of my
• 1:11:45
  others, like, you know, French car history and stuff like that.
• 1:11:47
  But if memory serves, I think the skyliner type of thing was in reference to.
• 1:11:55
  Either the ability to open the roof sunroof convertible that type of thing.
• 1:11:59
  So it was like, oh, yeah, it's a galaxy Skyliner because it's actually
• 1:12:03
  a convertible like they didn't want to use cabriolet or like we do, you
• 1:12:06
  know, in some of the other cars.
• 1:12:09
  So I think that's where that is.
• 1:12:10
  I have mixed feelings about it because a lot of us latch on to the Skyline
• 1:12:15
  name, especially when we're talking about the R32s, R33s, R34s, but
• 1:12:20
  they've always been the GTR, even from the earliest early days of that car.
• 1:12:25
  So, um, I think it's neither here nor there.
• 1:12:28
  I'm very curious to see what they're going to slap the skyline badge on.
• 1:12:32
  I think that's,
• 1:12:33
  that's the important part of this is what did, what are their plans
• 1:12:36
  for the future with that badge?
• 1:12:38
  Exactly.
• 1:12:39
  Now, if it's the rebirth of the Ford Aerostar, just stop.
• 1:12:42
  Now I can tell you one thing that I think the skyline name could be
• 1:12:46
  used for is the new Ford Bronco with the hard tops, because these
• 1:12:49
  hard tops are pieces of crap.
• 1:12:51
  And basically what you should do is just take the hard top off.
• 1:12:55
  And call it a Ford Bronco Skyline.
• 1:12:56
  Hey, there you go.
• 1:12:57
  So what's going on with these hardtops?
• 1:12:59
  They're just junk or?
• 1:13:00
  They're just, they're poorly made and they're falling apart and
• 1:13:04
  people are not happy with them.
• 1:13:06
  Anybody that's owned a Jeep, you know exactly what the Bronco
• 1:13:09
  people are complaining about.
• 1:13:10
  You've just decided to deal with it because hey, Jeep life, bro.
• 1:13:14
  For the Ford people, this is a little rainwater on your head,
• 1:13:17
  right?
• 1:13:17
  Who cares about a little rain on your head?
• 1:13:19
  I mean, just go faster, just move on.
• 1:13:21
  But yeah, so the, the Ford Bronco hardtops can be skylines because the
• 1:13:26
  hardtops basically don't work anyway.
• 1:13:27
  So,
• 1:13:27
  and you know, what's funny is it seems like this month on we would be remiss.
• 1:13:31
  We're not really talking about Tesla's for the first time in a year.
• 1:13:35
  It's pretty crazy.
• 1:13:36
  It looks like our showcase brand for this segment is actually Ford.
• 1:13:40
  And there's one more thing we got to talk about, which is, you know,
• 1:13:44
  right out in left field.
• 1:13:46
  The Ford Mach E fragrance.
• 1:13:48
  Is that ode to toilet?
• 1:13:49
  I mean, toilet?
• 1:13:52
  Sorry, I just got a
• 1:13:52
  whiff.
• 1:13:53
  Okay, hold on.
• 1:13:53
  So Ford Mach E fragrance.
• 1:13:57
  So Mach E is an electric car, right?
• 1:14:00
  Yep.
• 1:14:00
  I know this.
• 1:14:01
  I'm just, you know, being, being that way with my questions.
• 1:14:03
  It's
• 1:14:03
  rhetorical.
• 1:14:04
  I get it.
• 1:14:04
  Yeah.
• 1:14:05
  No, no.
• 1:14:05
  And it's good that you answered.
• 1:14:06
  Who here has played with a train set?
• 1:14:09
  I know where she's
• 1:14:10
  going with this.
• 1:14:11
  Electric
• 1:14:11
  train set.
• 1:14:12
  Who remembers that smell, that, that taste almost that gets in your mouth.
• 1:14:18
  It's called ozone.
• 1:14:19
  Oh, that smell.
• 1:14:22
  Can't you smell
• 1:14:22
  that smell?
• 1:14:24
  Right?
• 1:14:24
  Like even, I guess, if you went to an electric go kart
• 1:14:26
  track, it'd be the same thing.
• 1:14:27
  So is that what this smells like?
• 1:14:30
  Oh no, no, no.
• 1:14:32
  As I read the article, it says the mock O, okay, spell E A U,
• 1:14:38
  is dis, is dis,
• 1:14:39
  is dis, That's the name of the fragrance.
• 1:14:41
  Yes, that's
• 1:14:42
  French.
• 1:14:43
  Like many French references we've made on this episode this time.
• 1:14:46
  It is designed to please the nose of any wearer.
• 1:14:49
  A high end fragrance that fuses smoky accords, aspects of rubber,
• 1:14:55
  and even an animal element to give a nod to the Mustang heritage.
• 1:15:00
  What are we talking about?
• 1:15:02
  So it smells like a horse stall, because the Mahi is a Mustang.
• 1:15:07
  That's exactly what I was thinking.
• 1:15:10
  It smells like horse shit.
• 1:15:11
  And this is a pile of marketing horse shit.
• 1:15:15
  You said stalks.
• 1:15:16
  I thought you were going to say horse's ass.
• 1:15:18
  I
• 1:15:20
  have class.
• 1:15:21
  Whatever.
• 1:15:22
  This is right up there with the whole Maki 1400, what is it?
• 1:15:26
  Red chili Tabasco sauce that came out with
• 1:15:30
  like two
• 1:15:30
  months
• 1:15:30
  ago.
• 1:15:31
  So instead of like, can't even remember who the, the fragrance models are,
• 1:15:35
  you know, when they walk down and they do their little thing for like Dior
• 1:15:40
  or whatever, who is going to be the spokesperson, the spokes model for this?
• 1:15:45
  Is it going to be
• 1:15:48
  Ken Block.
• 1:15:48
  No, that would be good.
• 1:15:51
  Let me do it again.
• 1:15:52
  I'll get it.
• 1:15:54
  I'm going to get it.
• 1:15:58
  It's
• 1:15:58
  gotta be good.
• 1:15:59
  This has got to be really good.
• 1:16:03
  Is it going to be?
• 1:16:04
  Mr.
• 1:16:05
  Ed, because it is a Mustang.
• 1:16:08
  He's a horse.
• 1:16:09
  Of course, of course, that might be a little too old for some of our listeners.
• 1:16:14
  It might be right in their wheelhouse too.
• 1:16:16
  Uh, y'all get new balances for Christmas, but you know, speaking of things
• 1:16:21
  that smell like a horse's stall, the newest like craze, and I don't
• 1:16:26
  understand because it is a beautiful blend of agriculture and petrol
• 1:16:31
  headness, is Clarkson's Farm.
• 1:16:33
  on Amazon Prime.
• 1:16:35
  We all love old Top Gear.
• 1:16:37
  I don't know.
• 1:16:38
  I don't want to say the Royal We, how we feel about the new Top Gear.
• 1:16:41
  There's mixed feelings about it, but the old Top Gear was a lot of fun.
• 1:16:44
  We do miss Clarkson Hammond in May.
• 1:16:46
  There's obviously a new episode of Grand Tour coming out where they're,
• 1:16:51
  you somewhere on the planet again, you know, doing an elongated, you
• 1:16:55
  know, two hour episode, but Clarkson's farm along with Richard Hammond
• 1:16:58
  show is like the new hot thing.
• 1:17:00
  And you guys talked a lot about drive to survive and all this kind of stuff.
• 1:17:04
  And I still haven't given that any time, but my wife came to me and
• 1:17:06
  said, we got to watch Clarkson's farm.
• 1:17:08
  You got to check it out.
• 1:17:09
  Not
• 1:17:10
  really.
• 1:17:10
  I mean, I don't know how's Jeremy going to be by himself.
• 1:17:13
  And I got to say, if you guys haven't watched this show, you got to watch it.
• 1:17:17
  Not having May and Hammond is actually okay because some of the stuff that
• 1:17:21
  goes down on the farm is absolutely just hysterical and it's the normal bravado
• 1:17:27
  and all that stuff you come to expect.
• 1:17:29
  But the awesome part is, and I haven't finished the series yet and
• 1:17:31
  I probably will by the time we get to the next drive through, there was a
• 1:17:34
  lot of back and forth about whether the show was going to be renewed
• 1:17:38
  and it is official folks, Clarkson's Farm is renewed for a second season.
• 1:17:43
  So if you haven't Netflixed and binged it yet, It's time to do so on Amazon prime.
• 1:17:48
  So it wouldn't be, would you like fries for that?
• 1:17:51
  I mean, we would be remiss if we didn't talk about some Florida people.
• 1:17:55
  Florida man, Florida man.
• 1:17:58
  Although our first one isn't a Florida man, believe it's a Georgia man.
• 1:18:02
  It's Florida man in spirit.
• 1:18:03
  It's it's Florida adjacent.
• 1:18:09
  I'm not sure how far south in Georgia this was.
• 1:18:12
  And I did hear about this on the, it was big news actually, and it caused
• 1:18:16
  a huge traffic jam and rightfully so, when a bridge moves six feet.
• 1:18:24
  And how does a bridge move six feet?
• 1:18:26
  A dump truck hits it.
• 1:18:28
  Now, wait a second, you know, they have those signs under the bridges, you know,
• 1:18:32
  however many 13 feet low clearance, blah, blah, blah, meant for tractor
• 1:18:36
  trailers or other heavy trucks of that nature that can be very tall, you
• 1:18:41
  know, usually those kind of warnings.
• 1:18:43
  I don't know.
• 1:18:43
  Maybe there was a warning here.
• 1:18:45
  I have a feeling there wasn't.
• 1:18:46
  I have a feeling clearance shouldn't have been an issue.
• 1:18:49
  So then how does a dump truck hit a bridge and move it six feet?
• 1:18:52
  When the dump part of the truck.
• 1:18:55
  I believe the technical term is bucket.
• 1:18:57
  The dumper also.
• 1:18:59
  Or the dumper.
• 1:19:01
  As they refer to it when the dumper is raised.
• 1:19:05
  So the dumper was in the dump position going down the road, and of course
• 1:19:11
  that slammed into the side of a bridge 'cause it's taller than . There's
• 1:19:17
  not an answer yet as to why the dumper was in the dump position.
• 1:19:22
  It could have been a malfunction.
• 1:19:23
  It could have been.
• 1:19:24
  You gotta go, you gotta go.
• 1:19:29
  Dude wasn't paying attention.
• 1:19:30
  I'd like to also understand where the load went, if there was one.
• 1:19:34
  I've never driven a dump truck, but I feel like you'd probably
• 1:19:37
  know if your dumper was up.
• 1:19:39
  Looking at the pictures, it looks like the load is still in the back of the dumper.
• 1:19:43
  It
• 1:19:43
  looked like tires were in the
• 1:19:45
  back.
• 1:19:46
  He was, he was hauling his tires.
• 1:19:48
  There is a tire
• 1:19:49
  shortage right now, folks.
• 1:19:50
  There is a tire shortage.
• 1:19:50
  It was
• 1:19:51
  full of, uh, like, tractor tires.
• 1:19:53
  There's two things here.
• 1:19:54
  First of all, I thought it was awesome reading this and the, the kind of
• 1:19:57
  feedback from the civil engineers.
• 1:20:00
  Like, we've never seen this before.
• 1:20:01
  Which kind of goes back to what we were talking about 3D printing the bridges.
• 1:20:05
  My mind is going back to that for a moment.
• 1:20:07
  And like, if we can move a classic I beam bridge with the dumper, how
• 1:20:11
  far do we push a 3D printer bridge?
• 1:20:13
  But I also want to tip my hat.
• 1:20:15
  To the diesel engine in this dump truck for going down the highway at
• 1:20:20
  highway speed with the dumper up and the driver couldn't tell the difference.
• 1:20:25
  That is some serious Torquem's right there.
• 1:20:27
  You know how you fix this?
• 1:20:28
  You back the truck out, you lower the dumper, you go on the other side, you.
• 1:20:33
  Do it again.
• 1:20:37
  Hold on guys.
• 1:20:38
  I'm gonna put, I'm gonna push the bridge back.
• 1:20:39
  Hold my
• 1:20:39
  beer.
• 1:20:40
  Oh, I'll get it fixed.
• 1:20:42
  I promise you, you won't even know the difference.
• 1:20:45
  I didn't see the comments you saw or whatnot.
• 1:20:47
  I'm not sure so much that we've never seen this as an, Oh my God, the bridge moved.
• 1:20:53
  Versus we've never seen a dump truck hit a bridge like this.
• 1:20:58
  We've seen trucks in bridges,
• 1:21:00
  but not like this.
• 1:21:02
  Oh man.
• 1:21:03
  You know, honestly, I
• 1:21:04
  think I'm sure you all probably heard a couple of months, maybe a month
• 1:21:09
  or two ago about the, the pedestrian bridge that collapsed on 295 in DC.
• 1:21:14
  I think it was a similar situation.
• 1:21:15
  A truck hit the pedestrian bridge because trucks aren't supposed
• 1:21:18
  to be on that road anyway.
• 1:21:19
  So do we now
• 1:21:20
  have like an epidemic of trucks hitting bridges?
• 1:21:23
  We're collecting this data now.
• 1:21:25
  How many in a year are we going to have?
• 1:21:27
  This is nuts.
• 1:21:27
  There's a lot of strange stuff happening on the roads now that COVID's almost over.
• 1:21:34
  We're going to
• 1:21:34
  put air quotes on that.
• 1:21:36
  Yeah, people are out here doing all kinds of funky stuff on the roads.
• 1:21:40
  Like knocking down bridges.
• 1:21:42
  I can believe the pedestrian bridge.
• 1:21:43
  They're not quite as robust as you know, this bridge was, but, and they should be
• 1:21:48
  designed to a certain extent for lateral forces because high winds, things of that
• 1:21:52
  nature, but I don't know that they're designed for the full hit that this
• 1:21:59
  was at who knows, 60, 70 miles an hour.
• 1:22:02
  I don't even know.
• 1:22:03
  Insane.
• 1:22:03
  But you know, Brad, you brought up a really good point.
• 1:22:05
  Crazy things going on.
• 1:22:07
  On our roadways post COVID world.
• 1:22:10
  You remember, you remember last month and I know you had to recap
• 1:22:13
  last month, but last month we talked about a human powered car, which was
• 1:22:18
  a South park episode,
• 1:22:20
  but we reviewed a human powered car, which wasn't anything too shy of a.
• 1:22:25
  You know, a railroad trolley with an older gentleman kind of pumping away, building
• 1:22:29
  his arm muscles, you know, in a seemingly Camaro like, you know, kit on top of it.
• 1:22:34
  But there's another video circulating from the guys at Garage Talk, not
• 1:22:39
  to be confused with Garage Riot, and
• 1:22:43
  it is a bicycle powered Honda.
• 1:22:46
  And if you haven't seen this video, It will have you
• 1:22:49
  cracking up by the end of it.
• 1:22:50
  I was absolutely floored.
• 1:22:52
  These guys basically welded these rails to a front of a Civic that
• 1:22:56
  doesn't have an engine in it, but still has a manual transmission.
• 1:22:59
  They hooked up a tandem bicycle.
• 1:23:01
  So imagine two dudes sitting on the hood of a car, pedaling away while a
• 1:23:07
  driver is inside trying to see through them, steering and Changing gears.
• 1:23:13
  Hot gardening.
• 1:23:15
  So the antics continue to climb.
• 1:23:18
  I mean, they build this thing, which is hilarious to watch, and then
• 1:23:21
  they decide we're going to drive it.
• 1:23:23
  I'm put air quotes around that through a McDonald's drive-through,
• 1:23:26
  which was entertaining.
• 1:23:27
  You know, pull up to the window, number one and all that, just
• 1:23:29
  like here on the drive through.
• 1:23:30
  But then they were pulled over by a police officer, , and I don't wanna
• 1:23:35
  spoil it.
• 1:23:36
  You guys definitely gotta check this out.
• 1:23:38
  It is.
• 1:23:39
  Absolutely ridiculous.
• 1:23:40
  It moves faster than my 1990 Honda Civic did.
• 1:23:44
  No doubt.
• 1:23:45
  No doubt.
• 1:23:45
  It is two human powers,
• 1:23:47
  a real tandem bicycle, like legit on the pavement would be faster than that.
• 1:23:53
  I mean, I'll give them the ingenuity welding, you know, the support bars,
• 1:23:59
  all this stuff, hooking it up to the transmission, actually having it work.
• 1:24:03
  But hot garbage.
• 1:24:05
  Yeah, it's pretty bad.
• 1:24:06
  My favorite part of the video was.
• 1:24:08
  Since they welded in all those bars and whatnot, obviously to support
• 1:24:11
  the bicycle on the front end, dude's got his welder hat on pulled up.
• 1:24:16
  So you can see his face dude starts welding.
• 1:24:18
  He didn't pull the mask down.
• 1:24:20
  Oh God.
• 1:24:21
  At that point, I was like, I'm over this.
• 1:24:23
  I mean, looking at the, the fact that it's a bicycle on the front of
• 1:24:27
  a car, do you really have to question their intelligence and the using of
• 1:24:32
  the welding helmet and everything?
• 1:24:33
  I think the fact that he had the welding helmet.
• 1:24:37
  Was a huge win.
• 1:24:39
  You know, I'm not a welder.
• 1:24:40
  So maybe there's certain welding you can, you can do that.
• 1:24:43
  You don't need to put the visor down on.
• 1:24:47
  Anyway,
• 1:24:48
  let's change gears to yet another Florida esque story.
• 1:24:52
  This one was in North Carolina.
• 1:24:55
  Coming up the, up the coast.
• 1:24:56
  Come on.
• 1:24:56
  We're traveling North here.
• 1:24:58
  I actually, I think we're going to keep traveling North
• 1:25:00
  through this segment, actually.
• 1:25:01
  This one belongs.
• 1:25:03
  In the funeral episode as well, because this 26 year old torched his 2007
• 1:25:09
  Cadillac, lit it on fire, plumes of smoke on the side of a road next to what could
• 1:25:17
  be like, I don't know, an apartment or a house, basically trying to do insurance
• 1:25:22
  fraud and, uh, pretty sure it got caught.
• 1:25:24
  So good job.
• 1:25:25
  So this was not the reenactment of waiting to exhale where
• 1:25:29
  the lady lit her Jeep on fire.
• 1:25:30
  Remember that one?
• 1:25:31
  No, no, no.
• 1:25:31
  Well, she lit the boyfriend's Mercedes on fire or whatever.
• 1:25:36
  Oh, but yes.
• 1:25:36
  Oh, in, in the actual movie.
• 1:25:38
  But yes, the lady that lit her, whoever's Jeep on fire.
• 1:25:41
  Yes, that was a good one.
• 1:25:44
  No, no, no.
• 1:25:44
  This, he wasn't mad at anybody.
• 1:25:46
  He just needed a little more do re mi and I guess just selling
• 1:25:49
  the car, wasn't going to cut it.
• 1:25:50
  So light it on fire.
• 1:25:53
  Which is really dumb because he did this allegedly back in
• 1:25:57
  October, November of last year.
• 1:25:59
  The used car market right now is really hot.
• 1:26:05
  That's an awesome pun,
• 1:26:06
  but you know what else?
• 1:26:07
  I'm sure there was a gentleman on the side of the road with a trash can
• 1:26:11
  full of water waiting to help him out.
• 1:26:12
  And to quote Mountain Man Dan, where's my bucket?
• 1:26:16
  I was going to say, where's Shane with the fire extinguisher?
• 1:26:18
  In an episode of what seems to be like Ripley's Believe It or Not,
• 1:26:22
  we have a Ferrari owner that does something I've never seen before.
• 1:26:26
  I think this is fake.
• 1:26:27
  I think this is really good video editing.
• 1:26:30
  20, 30 second clip of this Ferrari.
• 1:26:32
  It's, this is in the UK, so we didn't go much further North.
• 1:26:35
  And you got this Ferrari here, sirens, and there's this tractor
• 1:26:39
  trailer or a lorry, if you will.
• 1:26:42
  Going down the highway and all of a sudden the ferry pulls up next to
• 1:26:45
  him, slides underneath it, fast and furious style, in between the front
• 1:26:50
  and rear wheel tires of this lorry.
• 1:26:53
  And then he pokes out the other side of it, presumably hitting the brakes,
• 1:26:57
  falling back while the cop car, whoo, straight by him and the lorry.
• 1:27:03
  I think it's BS.
• 1:27:04
  I'm on the fence, but it's kind of cool to look at.
• 1:27:08
  So we're going to post it in the show notes and you guys judge
• 1:27:10
  for yourselves and let us know if you think it's fact or Photoshop.
• 1:27:15
  Photoshop.
• 1:27:17
  Brad has decided.
• 1:27:18
  The Viking has spoken.
• 1:27:20
  Totally Photoshop.
• 1:27:21
  To go back to the US.
• 1:27:22
  And to continue our journey north, we land back in Detroit.
• 1:27:27
  So another Michigan woman.
• 1:27:29
  Oh man.
• 1:27:29
  This is how we ended the first drive thru segment on this
• 1:27:33
  was with the Detroit woman.
• 1:27:35
  I give props to this woman all day, every day.
• 1:27:40
  You go girl.
• 1:27:44
  And there's some really well written articles on this one.
• 1:27:46
  Not necessarily, uh, the one that's posted.
• 1:27:49
  So this woman had her Mercedes stolen.
• 1:27:53
  Okay.
• 1:27:54
  Beautiful white Mercedes.
• 1:27:55
  I don't even think it mentions the exact model, but you know, whatever sedans.
• 1:27:59
  It's probably like a, I think a C class or something like that.
• 1:28:01
  She had her Mercedes Benz stolen.
• 1:28:03
  That's
• 1:28:03
  what happened to Detroit.
• 1:28:04
  It happened in
• 1:28:05
  Detroit.
• 1:28:06
  It's a very sad day.
• 1:28:07
  Well, she loved her Mercedes very much, so she wasn't going to let it go.
• 1:28:11
  So she was tracking her car.
• 1:28:12
  She was tracking it via social media.
• 1:28:16
  She was reaching out.
• 1:28:17
  She was trying to find,
• 1:28:18
  find my Benz app.
• 1:28:19
  Is that a thing on the Apple phones now?
• 1:28:21
  I guess not,
• 1:28:22
  but you know, she was using social media.
• 1:28:24
  You know, have you seen this car that I thought she was getting hit?
• 1:28:27
  She found it a few times, called the police.
• 1:28:30
  By the time the police showed up, the car was gone again.
• 1:28:33
  Well, they were her Instagram followers, right?
• 1:28:34
  So it was all this circular thing going on.
• 1:28:38
  But anyway, go ahead.
• 1:28:39
  So eventually, again, she tracks her car down.
• 1:28:42
  She sees it parked in front of a barber shop in a parking lot.
• 1:28:46
  So she had enough at this point.
• 1:28:47
  She said, nope, I want my car back.
• 1:28:50
  So she goes inside the barbershop and she sees the guy sitting in there.
• 1:28:54
  And she's like, is that your Mercedes out there?
• 1:28:56
  He's all like, no.
• 1:28:58
  And she flipped out.
• 1:29:00
  She grabbed him by the hair, dragged him across the barbershop floor.
• 1:29:07
  Other people in the store had to like pull her off and like
• 1:29:11
  they did a citizen's arrest.
• 1:29:13
  And so they caught the guy, but not only does she like
• 1:29:16
  give this guy an ass kicking.
• 1:29:18
  Okay.
• 1:29:20
  She is next level.
• 1:29:22
  And how is she next level?
• 1:29:23
  She
• 1:29:25
  slashes the tires on her own.
• 1:29:28
  car.
• 1:29:29
  Dude, that's legit.
• 1:29:30
  Cause she was worried he was going to get away and take it again.
• 1:29:35
  Not today.
• 1:29:36
  And she slashed her own tires to ground her car.
• 1:29:40
  Boom.
• 1:29:41
  That's awesome.
• 1:29:42
  Actually that is kick ass.
• 1:29:44
  Next level.
• 1:29:45
  So you two folks can be a vigilante only in Detroit.
• 1:29:52
  How did she get to the barbershop if her car was stolen?
• 1:29:56
  She took an Uber.
• 1:29:56
  I
• 1:29:59
  don't think it ever actually explains that.
• 1:30:01
  But I think actually the barbershop, and I don't know if this article describes
• 1:30:06
  it, but there was a much longer one that went into, it's a much more
• 1:30:09
  colorful storytelling, I believe she actually has a place of business that
• 1:30:12
  was in that same like strip, I think near the barbershop, so she might have
• 1:30:16
  been at work and saw her car pull up.
• 1:30:19
  My God.
• 1:30:19
  Can you imagine?
• 1:30:20
  It was a really nice car thief, dude, because he had the car detailed.
• 1:30:23
  So there.
• 1:30:24
  Hey, that's a
• 1:30:24
  plus.
• 1:30:25
  She needs four new tires, but you know, whatever.
• 1:30:27
  Oh, goody, goody.
• 1:30:29
  Well, you know, we got to jump yet again to our third segment, which is,
• 1:30:34
  we need to go behind the pit wall and So I'm going to say this before we get
• 1:30:39
  into our typical segments, mountain man, Dan sent me like nine pages of
• 1:30:44
  stuff to cover in his typical way.
• 1:30:46
  I will tell you guys, there's a bunch of really cool information that he's
• 1:30:49
  got about the X games and the Barbara Frisch classic and you know, all this
• 1:30:53
  kind of stuff and actually what we're thinking is maybe doing a potential
• 1:30:56
  little spinoff for mountain man, Dan, something called the mountain view.
• 1:31:00
  Where he talks about, you know, more like off roading and
• 1:31:03
  trucks and things like that.
• 1:31:04
  So if that's something of interest.
• 1:31:06
  Give us a shout.
• 1:31:07
  Let us know.
• 1:31:07
  We want to get that off the ground and be able to talk about some more
• 1:31:11
  of those things, but we'd have a ton of other stuff left to cover.
• 1:31:14
  So we'll leave that to the side, but we will post links to some of the things that
• 1:31:17
  he wanted to bring to people's attention.
• 1:31:19
  So we do have to jump into open wheelway racing for a little bit.
• 1:31:23
  And there's some baby crying and whining and diaper changing
• 1:31:27
  going on in F1 right now.
• 1:31:30
  In addition to all the other drama, I just don't get it this year.
• 1:31:33
  Hamilton's off the hook and then we got May Spin, depending
• 1:31:37
  on how you pronounce it.
• 1:31:38
  We talked about him even last month.
• 1:31:39
  I mean, wrecking a car every time he hits the asphalt.
• 1:31:42
  And then he's crying that, you know, people aren't letting him win or whatever.
• 1:31:45
  I just don't get it.
• 1:31:46
  I cannot.
• 1:31:48
  Get invested in F1 this year.
• 1:31:50
  It's just like, it just turns me off.
• 1:31:53
  I think he just needs to shut up and put up some numbers, start
• 1:31:57
  actually doing well, and then maybe you'll, you'll have something there.
• 1:32:00
  I grant granted.
• 1:32:01
  I understand you're in the Haas, which basically the Haas team is
• 1:32:05
  completely punted this season.
• 1:32:07
  They're just waiting for new regulations next year before
• 1:32:10
  they make any changes to the car.
• 1:32:12
  So he's essentially driving last year's car pro teams and other
• 1:32:15
  sports do this all the time.
• 1:32:17
  You know, they lose on purpose in order to build.
• 1:32:19
  It's a, it's a rebuilding year.
• 1:32:22
  Yeah.
• 1:32:22
  Essentially for the Haas team.
• 1:32:23
  He should have known that going in because he's Mazda spin and he's
• 1:32:27
  on a team with Mick Schumacher.
• 1:32:29
  Both of them are complete rookies.
• 1:32:31
  If it wasn't for Haas, like giving up this year, they
• 1:32:34
  probably wouldn't even be an F1.
• 1:32:35
  I agree.
• 1:32:36
  Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
• 1:32:37
  Right.
• 1:32:37
  Use it as an opportunity to build your technique and to get better as a driver.
• 1:32:42
  Right.
• 1:32:42
  And we talk about that all the time, even in our more local motorsport,
• 1:32:46
  where it's like, you know, if it's not your day, just take a step back
• 1:32:49
  and just work on some other things.
• 1:32:50
  Perfect your craft.
• 1:32:52
  Yeah.
• 1:32:52
  If you,
• 1:32:52
  if you want to actually get on a better team, how about you go through
• 1:32:56
  an entire race without spinning once?
• 1:32:58
  It actually finished somewhere ahead of 19 or 20 in situations like this.
• 1:33:03
  You got to turn around and ask yourself, are you doing all that you
• 1:33:06
  can with what you've been given or you got to ask yourself that make
• 1:33:09
  sure you're doing everything you can before you start pointing to
• 1:33:12
  the equipment and stuff like that.
• 1:33:14
  And I think personally, Haas has given him a gift.
• 1:33:17
  By, you know, giving him a spot on the team.
• 1:33:20
  Now, of course they needed his money, you know, in order to do it, but there
• 1:33:22
  were other billionaires out there that would have loved to drive an F1 and that
• 1:33:26
  they could have found they chose him.
• 1:33:28
  Uh, I think he needs to just shut up and drive
• 1:33:30
  along with that.
• 1:33:31
  Talking about, you know, working with what you got and all that.
• 1:33:34
  There's a lot of drama this past weekend at Silverstone with respect to Hamilton.
• 1:33:40
  You know, he's been the golden boy, but you know, time to talk about
• 1:33:43
  putting a target on your back.
• 1:33:44
  You win long enough.
• 1:33:45
  People start to get a little bit upset and we're starting to see
• 1:33:49
  some drama in the Hamilton camp.
• 1:33:51
  So what did you think of that race, Brad?
• 1:33:52
  I did get to see the incident between Hamilton and Verstappen.
• 1:33:56
  I mean, the announcers were talking about it, how Hamilton has been in similar
• 1:34:00
  situations with Verstappen earlier in the year, and he's kind of yielded and
• 1:34:03
  just let Verstappen go for the sake of, you know, the cars and not wrecking
• 1:34:07
  and causing an incident or whatever.
• 1:34:09
  Personally, I didn't think Hamilton did anything wrong.
• 1:34:11
  He was next to Verstappen.
• 1:34:13
  He let out of it a little bit because he was offline and
• 1:34:16
  he needed to make the turn.
• 1:34:17
  Verstappen looked like he turned into Hamilton.
• 1:34:20
  Don't roast me.
• 1:34:21
  This is my take.
• 1:34:22
  Feel free to think whatever you want to think loyal listeners.
• 1:34:26
  This is how I see it.
• 1:34:28
  I'm obviously not part of the FIA, so I have no, you know,
• 1:34:31
  what I say has no bearing here.
• 1:34:32
  But personally, I think it was a racing incident.
• 1:34:34
  I think Hamilton probably shouldn't even have gotten a penalty, period.
• 1:34:38
  They gave him a penalty.
• 1:34:39
  Okay, fair enough.
• 1:34:40
  He ended up winning the race.
• 1:34:41
  Verstappen was put out of the race.
• 1:34:42
  I think that's unfortunate for Verstappen, but shit happens.
• 1:34:49
  More drama, right?
• 1:34:51
  More suspicion and conspiracy theory that something's up with Hamilton's car because
• 1:34:57
  Red Bull says that there's data out there, which they haven't surfaced yet.
• 1:35:01
  That's saying that Hamilton was carrying more speed than he
• 1:35:04
  should have and all this stuff.
• 1:35:06
  And where did it come from?
• 1:35:07
  And they didn't see that kind of data during qualifying.
• 1:35:10
  And it's like, so they're trying to say, like, I didn't know
• 1:35:13
  how to interpret it exactly.
• 1:35:14
  Like, are they trying to say that?
• 1:35:16
  You know, he did cause the accident because he was carrying more speed
• 1:35:19
  in the corner than he should have.
• 1:35:20
  And he purposely rammed into him.
• 1:35:21
  Or were they saying that there's something going on on the Mercedes?
• 1:35:25
  Like he's getting a boost to speed somehow.
• 1:35:27
  I was like, what is all this nonsense?
• 1:35:29
  I
• 1:35:30
  think all that's bullshit.
• 1:35:31
  I think if he was carrying more speed, he would have been ahead of her step.
• 1:35:34
  And before the turn, he was, you know, Side by Sideward for
• 1:35:37
  Stepin, almost nose for nose.
• 1:35:38
  He backed out of it to make the turn, which is how he ended up on Tappin's
• 1:35:43
  right rear when the incident happened.
• 1:35:45
  So a any of that stuff, whatever.
• 1:35:48
  And I think majority of that's probably coming out of the Red Bull Camp, right?
• 1:35:52
  And it's coming from Christian Horner, Christian Horner's, A,
• 1:35:54
  a Weasel and a and a Cry baby.
• 1:35:57
  I'm, I'm just gonna put it out there.
• 1:35:58
  Uh, I think I thought the same thing about.
• 1:36:00
  No, these are people that are trying to do everything they possibly can to win.
• 1:36:05
  And I mean, you haven't watched drive to survive, but I think Tanya
• 1:36:08
  has, you can see the politics and the politicking that goes on behind
• 1:36:13
  the scenes between these teams.
• 1:36:15
  I mean, the last drive to survive was all about, I mean, the first
• 1:36:19
  episode was all about the force India.
• 1:36:21
  They're not forcing racing point.
• 1:36:22
  That was about how their car.
• 1:36:25
  Was eerily similar to the Mercedes car that won the year prior, all the
• 1:36:29
  teams were up in arms about, you know, this and going to the race stewards
• 1:36:34
  and the FIA saying this isn't fair.
• 1:36:36
  These guys shouldn't be able to do this.
• 1:36:37
  This car is not legal, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:36:39
  Who gives a fuck?
• 1:36:40
  Just let them race.
• 1:36:42
  Yeah, whatever.
• 1:36:42
  I think it's all bitching and whining.
• 1:36:44
  Cause your team's not winning.
• 1:36:45
  And as Tanya said, numerous times when you're first, I mean,
• 1:36:49
  you've got a target on your back.
• 1:36:50
  So was there also some commotion at the end of the race?
• 1:36:53
  Cause Hamilton was showing off on his win
• 1:36:55
  that I don't know.
• 1:36:56
  I didn't hear anything about that.
• 1:36:57
  I thought I saw something come across my desk.
• 1:36:59
  There was
• 1:36:59
  probably something about his race celebration, because I think Max
• 1:37:02
  Verstappen got in trouble last week for a particular showboating race celebration.
• 1:37:08
  Well, I, okay.
• 1:37:09
  So I think what I heard was a Hamilton.
• 1:37:11
  slowed down to an unsafe speed as he was crossing the line.
• 1:37:16
  Even though he was mixed in traffic with like back markers and stuff, and
• 1:37:19
  they were still coming at full speed.
• 1:37:21
  I think that's what I heard, which yes, if that's the case, and yeah, it's very
• 1:37:25
  dangerous and you shouldn't be doing that.
• 1:37:26
  I don't know why people slow down at the line anyway, just go through the
• 1:37:29
  line full speed and then slow down as you're doing your, your cool down lap.
• 1:37:33
  You don't have to do it right at the line.
• 1:37:35
  I think that's stupid.
• 1:37:36
  But that was less severe than what Verstappen did
• 1:37:38
  because I supposedly he said.
• 1:37:39
  Stopped at the line and then did a burnout off the line.
• 1:37:43
  And there were people still obviously coming around to finish their race.
• 1:37:47
  Exactly.
• 1:37:48
  I mean, the, the, the people in the front have total disregard
• 1:37:50
  for anybody that's behind them.
• 1:37:51
  Cause if you ain't first, you're last.
• 1:37:53
  And so they, they slowed down at the line.
• 1:37:55
  They stop, they cause unsafe situations.
• 1:37:58
  I've seen it happen time and time again, at the end of these races, just
• 1:38:02
  go through the line at full speed.
• 1:38:04
  Do your cool down lap, get down to about four or five tenths of your, your full
• 1:38:09
  speed, and then do some burnouts with whatever extra fuel you have at the end.
• 1:38:12
  Like the
• 1:38:13
  NASCAR guys do, right?
• 1:38:14
  I mean, there's doing donuts and all that fun stuff.
• 1:38:16
  Yeah, it's all exactly.
• 1:38:17
  It was, since we're still talking about F1, the FIA revealed the
• 1:38:21
  new 2022 design that everybody's supposed to follow, right?
• 1:38:25
  Because this is formula racing.
• 1:38:27
  They're supposed to follow a basic principle and design and
• 1:38:30
  chassis and, and things like that.
• 1:38:32
  Yeah.
• 1:38:33
  Yeah.
• 1:38:33
  Formula racing.
• 1:38:34
  Right.
• 1:38:34
  Oh, what do you guys think of this thing?
• 1:38:36
  I mean, I have
• 1:38:37
  an Indy car,
• 1:38:38
  right?
• 1:38:38
  I was thinking that myself.
• 1:38:40
  It kind of reminds me of a duck bill platypus.
• 1:38:42
  I don't care for the rainbow psychedelic, you know, grateful dead
• 1:38:45
  paint scheme that the reveal was in.
• 1:38:47
  I'm with you.
• 1:38:48
  It looked like an Indy car.
• 1:38:49
  Didn't remind me of anything of a typical formula one car.
• 1:38:52
  I think part of it was that they're going to a larger race.
• 1:38:55
  wheel size for the first time in forever.
• 1:38:57
  They're going away from fifteens and they're going to
• 1:38:59
  like seventeens or eighteens.
• 1:39:01
  It makes the car look just like you said, like an Indy car looks odd.
• 1:39:04
  I feel like sometimes, you know, we've talked about on this show before there's
• 1:39:08
  only one design that can cheat the wind.
• 1:39:10
  And I feel like all these goofy cockpit wing designs, and I'm
• 1:39:14
  sure there's people out there that will hate me for saying this.
• 1:39:16
  It all feels like they're reinventing the wheel.
• 1:39:19
  Like, didn't they figure this out?
• 1:39:20
  Mike.
• 1:39:20
  I don't know.
• 1:39:21
  Back in the days of Colin Chapman.
• 1:39:22
  I mean, it's a beak with a wing on it.
• 1:39:25
  I mean, it's an open wheel car.
• 1:39:27
  I mean, how much more can we do to it to make it better?
• 1:39:31
  I'm
• 1:39:31
  interested in looking at the wing.
• 1:39:33
  I'm interested to see how the DRS system works, if they're even
• 1:39:36
  continuing that in the next year.
• 1:39:38
  I feel that's like such a video game thing to hit a button and have like,
• 1:39:41
  basically an electric turbo boost.
• 1:39:43
  You know, let's, let's move on a little bit.
• 1:39:45
  Despite all these other things that are going on, you know, love or hate
• 1:39:47
  formula one, there was something I was actually excited about with
• 1:39:51
  respect to formula one, and it was on the heels of the Italian soccer team
• 1:39:56
  winning the Euro cup against Britain.
• 1:39:59
  Alfa Romeo was eclipsed because they announced that they are going to stay
• 1:40:05
  in formula one for a multi year deal.
• 1:40:07
  So I was super excited about that because I like seeing Alfa Romeo out
• 1:40:11
  there with Ferrari and other brands.
• 1:40:13
  And I like seeing Kimi Raikkonen is going to have a job next year.
• 1:40:16
  A
• 1:40:16
  hundred percent.
• 1:40:17
  Kind of switching away from, but still adjacent to open wheel news.
• 1:40:21
  I want to talk about two really important things.
• 1:40:23
  We all know about climate change.
• 1:40:24
  We know how it's affecting the world.
• 1:40:26
  You know, we talk about the EVs all the time.
• 1:40:28
  It's supposed to be, you know, for the betterment and whatnot.
• 1:40:30
  You know, in this post COVID world, some things got left to the side, right?
• 1:40:34
  People are now returning to the larger racetracks like Silverstone this past
• 1:40:38
  weekend was the first F1 race to have like full grandstands or whatever.
• 1:40:42
  You know, they've done limited capacity.
• 1:40:43
  But now they opened it back up.
• 1:40:45
  And if you look at some of the other tracks that are out there, they're
• 1:40:49
  almost to the point of abandon.
• 1:40:50
  And one specifically, I mean, one of the hallmark tracks.
• 1:40:55
  Spa is like in terrible disrepair.
• 1:40:59
  Some of that has to do with massive floodings in that area of Belgium
• 1:41:02
  that have made the parts of the track impassable, you know, with
• 1:41:05
  dirt, mudslides, sand, et cetera, and then the asphalt itself.
• 1:41:09
  I mean, it looks like the surface of the moon.
• 1:41:11
  So I don't know that spa is going to be open this year.
• 1:41:15
  Even maybe next year as they try to combat the weather and get the
• 1:41:19
  track back up into fighting shape.
• 1:41:22
  Really sad to hear that.
• 1:41:23
  Sad to see the pictures.
• 1:41:24
  It's in the show notes.
• 1:41:25
  Check it out for yourself.
• 1:41:26
  And on the other side, if you guys haven't heard, there's massive
• 1:41:30
  flooding going on in Germany right now.
• 1:41:32
  And I was even listening to NPR and they were talking about how.
• 1:41:36
  Even as advanced as Germany is in their engineering and all the
• 1:41:40
  things we always talk about on this show, they're not really prepared
• 1:41:44
  for catastrophic weather conditions like flooding and things like that.
• 1:41:49
  And so it's kind of an afterthought for them.
• 1:41:51
  And even now the Nürburgring and its facilities are actually being used.
• 1:41:57
  And have become a makeshift like relief center.
• 1:42:01
  And so I really enjoyed this actually came from mountain
• 1:42:03
  Mandan as it came across my desk.
• 1:42:05
  And it's good to see this, like we talked about with Coda during
• 1:42:09
  COVID that they were using the track to give back to the community and
• 1:42:12
  do something to help the people.
• 1:42:14
  And so, you know, our thoughts and best wishes go out to the folks in Germany
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  and obviously in Belgium too, as they recuperate from these big storms and they
• 1:42:22
  begin to rebuild and we got to now switch.
• 1:42:25
  So my favorite discipline of motorsport world rally championship.
• 1:42:29
  And for the no people that listen to this
• 1:42:33
  out there still a thing.
• 1:42:35
  Yes, it's still a thing.
• 1:42:37
  Ah, my goodness.
• 1:42:39
  Tanya might be excited about this.
• 1:42:40
  There may be a few Anglophiles out there that might be excited about this.
• 1:42:44
  Guess what, guys?
• 1:42:45
  The Fiesta is out.
• 1:42:47
  M Sport has said the Puma is in.
• 1:42:50
  And the Puma Has not been sold here basically ever.
• 1:42:55
  I think it's a cool name for a Ford and the Cougar and the
• 1:42:58
  Mustang and those cool names.
• 1:42:59
  And, you know, we had the car.
• 1:43:01
  Yeah.
• 1:43:02
  The skyline, we had the car there for a while, but the Puma is kind of cool.
• 1:43:05
  It's always been a sporty little kind of hatchback.
• 1:43:08
  They had a coop there for the nineties.
• 1:43:10
  There was a lift.
• 1:43:10
  Back, you know, things like that.
• 1:43:12
  So it's been around for a while.
• 1:43:13
  And the Puma was actually sold here at one point as the Mercury
• 1:43:17
  Cougar in the late nineties, they're kind of rebranded and rebadged.
• 1:43:21
  So I, I got to take back what I said about it not coming to this country.
• 1:43:24
  But yes, the Fiesta is basically out.
• 1:43:26
  The Puma is in, it looks super cool.
• 1:43:28
  And I'm really excited to see what it does next year in 22 against,
• 1:43:33
  you know, the entries from Citroen from Hyundai and et cetera.
• 1:43:37
  So.
• 1:43:38
  Good on Ford for bringing out something different and we'll see where it goes.
• 1:43:42
  Meanwhile, in IMSA and WEC news, we talked about it last month.
• 1:43:46
  Everybody's coming to the surface, right?
• 1:43:48
  Ferrari, Porsche, BMW.
• 1:43:50
  Guess what?
• 1:43:52
  Peugeot has announced they're coming to 2023 with an LMDH.
• 1:43:57
  Prototype as well known as the nine X eight, because there's always
• 1:44:01
  been a battle between Porsche and Peugeot about numbering.
• 1:44:04
  I don't know why they can't settle this for all good.
• 1:44:06
  Like Peugeot stop calling them 900 series cars.
• 1:44:09
  It's the first of their hyper cars that they're developing, you know,
• 1:44:12
  hybrid system, everything that meets the regulations, but there's
• 1:44:15
  also been a rumor, thank you, Stellantis, that they may also enter.
• 1:44:21
  Either another one or enter the car in the Mpsa series as a Dodge.
• 1:44:26
  So you're gonna see Chrysler coming to the table with a reskinned EO nine x eight
• 1:44:33
  LM DH hypercar here in the near future.
• 1:44:35
  So I'm actually really excited about that.
• 1:44:37
  To see a brand like Chrysler slash Dodge come back to the table.
• 1:44:42
  Maybe we will see something interesting for a change, you know?
• 1:44:45
  not, you know, Corvette running by themselves or, or
• 1:44:48
  just Toyota out there, right?
• 1:44:49
  23 is going to be a great year for IMSA and prototype racing in general.
• 1:44:53
  So in other news, we got to wrap up just a kind of random piece of
• 1:44:57
  information that really leads us into talking about our local GTM news.
• 1:45:02
  And that's Who won VRL Series 15?
• 1:45:05
  We also did open wheel racing.
• 1:45:07
  We were kind of back to our normal format of racing for fun.
• 1:45:10
  We partnered again with the folks over at GarageRite.
• 1:45:12
  We had a great time.
• 1:45:13
  It was an open wheel series followed by a sub series of European trucks.
• 1:45:18
  So hats off to them.
• 1:45:19
  To our member up in the Northeast region, Sean Roberts, for taking the win in both
• 1:45:24
  series, series 15 and the ETRC series 15.
• 1:45:27
  1.
• 1:45:28
  And so congratulations to him.
• 1:45:30
  He almost had a, basically a clean sweep or a full house.
• 1:45:33
  I did happen to snag P class, P class is my house.
• 1:45:37
  I'm just going to say it here for all the public to hear.
• 1:45:39
  Bring it.
• 1:45:40
  We picked up a new sponsor in the VRL.
• 1:45:42
  We are now happy to announce that we're all running dog shit tunes.
• 1:45:49
  You know, we got to do a lot of homework before we go into our next
• 1:45:52
  VRL series, uh, series 16, we're hoping kind of gambling on when the new
• 1:45:57
  Forza Motorsport is going to come out.
• 1:45:59
  We're going to take a hiatus for anybody who's interested in
• 1:46:01
  joining our virtual racing league.
• 1:46:02
  We're probably going to put it off until the fall, and then
• 1:46:05
  we'll redesign something new.
• 1:46:06
  Probably go back to our roots.
• 1:46:07
  As we mentioned before, some B and A spec racing where it's a little bit more
• 1:46:11
  cars that are, you know, every day that we can modify and have some fun with.
• 1:46:15
  As we transition into our local news, you know, recapping some events just
• 1:46:19
  before the last episode came out, we were right on the precipice of heading
• 1:46:23
  Into our first double header of the year, which was Nelson ledges and pit race
• 1:46:27
  with our friends over at auto interest.
• 1:46:29
  I got to say, if you haven't been to Nelson ledges, all the rumors are true.
• 1:46:33
  It is the fastest farm you've ever raced on and it has been repaid.
• 1:46:38
  The surface is sticky.
• 1:46:39
  The course is a lot of fun and the legend does precede it.
• 1:46:43
  It does have the fastest average lap speed of any track east of the Mississippi.
• 1:46:48
  Incredibly Quick lap on a two mile circuit and a lot of fun.
• 1:46:54
  So if you haven't been out to Nelson ledges, highly
• 1:46:56
  recommend it to go check it out.
• 1:46:57
  Pit race is a blast.
• 1:46:59
  As always, we actually ran into Dr.
• 1:47:01
  T and race Liberante at the track.
• 1:47:03
  They were there and they chatted with us right before we went into
• 1:47:05
  our carding showdown with the folks from auto interest, as well as
• 1:47:09
  some of the ringers from pit race.
• 1:47:11
  So we went.
• 1:47:12
  Three on pit race versus AI versus GTM in a three way battle in this grudge match.
• 1:47:19
  And it was a great mix in the final standings.
• 1:47:22
  And oddly enough, the instructors took positions three through seven out
• 1:47:28
  of the 20 folks that were out there.
• 1:47:30
  So it's funny to see how tight the instructors are.
• 1:47:33
  And we just get frustrated at each other.
• 1:47:35
  Because we all drive the same lines.
• 1:47:37
  So, uh, we'll see what happens next year.
• 1:47:39
  It was a lot of fun.
• 1:47:40
  We're standing on an edge now going into our second double header.
• 1:47:44
  A couple of days after this episode airs, we are heading into summer bash seven.
• 1:47:48
  This is our biggest summer bash yet.
• 1:47:51
  It is our seventh anniversary here at GTM commemorating the first year of
• 1:47:55
  the podcast and everything like that, that we're doing here on this episode.
• 1:47:58
  But this is a big one for us.
• 1:48:00
  We're four days at summit point.
• 1:48:02
  No obligation to come to all of them, but the main event is going to be on
• 1:48:05
  July 31st, the Saturday and the big draw this year is, you know, we're
• 1:48:10
  doing the typical party and but we've also partnered with the American
• 1:48:13
  Cancer Society to do a first ever in our region fundraising walk run event.
• 1:48:20
  At a racetrack.
• 1:48:20
  And so summit point has been very gracious to allow us to do this.
• 1:48:24
  It's super cool.
• 1:48:25
  We have a lot of people register a lot of fun stuff.
• 1:48:27
  We're going to have vendors car show again, an after party,
• 1:48:30
  all sorts of kind of stuff.
• 1:48:31
  No obligation to donate, but if you haven't done it yet, you know,
• 1:48:35
  check out our website, go under events and then charity events.
• 1:48:38
  All the information is there to link you to it.
• 1:48:40
  Everything you need.
• 1:48:42
  Our schedule is up on paddock pal for the day.
• 1:48:44
  So you can see what we're doing when parade labs are, if you want to get
• 1:48:47
  in the right or an advanced driver.
• 1:48:49
  You have all these opportunities is an action packed day on July 31st
• 1:48:54
  at Summit Point Motorsports Park.
• 1:48:56
  So we're really looking forward to that.
• 1:48:57
  And again, all the proceeds from the fundraising event are going to the
• 1:49:02
  American Cancer Society on behalf of all of those that are currently
• 1:49:06
  battling with cancer and those that we have lost the cancer that Can
• 1:49:10
  no longer take a checkered flag.
• 1:49:11
  Great blend of the motor sports world and philanthropy right behind that.
• 1:49:16
  We are headed to visit our friend Nabil and the rest of the crew at
• 1:49:20
  just track it at Carolina motor sports park, the weekend of August the sixth.
• 1:49:25
  So for some of us here at GTM, we have members that live down in that area.
• 1:49:29
  We got folks from garage ride coming up.
• 1:49:31
  We mentioned the Dave Peters from HPD junkies.
• 1:49:33
  going to probably make a cameo appearance.
• 1:49:35
  We'll see who else is going to be there.
• 1:49:36
  But for some of us, CMP is going to be new.
• 1:49:39
  So we're looking forward to getting down there for the first time and checking
• 1:49:42
  another track off our bucket list.
• 1:49:44
  So if you happen to be in the area and you happen to be listening and
• 1:49:46
  you want to come visit with us and see us firsthand and get to know us
• 1:49:49
  a little better, come visit us the first weekend in August, six, seven,
• 1:49:52
  eight, there at Carolina Motorsports Park in Kershaw, South Carolina.
• 1:49:56
  I kind of listed off some events we're going to, and
• 1:49:58
  we've been to, I always got it.
• 1:50:00
  Thank Dave Peters over HP junkie for keeping the schedules up to date,
• 1:50:03
  keeping us sane, you know, allowing us to see what's going on in the entirety
• 1:50:07
  of North America and getting to see, you know, what kind of track events
• 1:50:11
  are available, what fits in my schedule and what might fit in your schedule.
• 1:50:14
  So a couple of things I want to highlight though, that came across my desk from our
• 1:50:17
  friends at hooked on driving Northeast.
• 1:50:19
  They have two events coming up in August.
• 1:50:20
  The 11th and 12th is an advanced and instructor day at Watkins.
• 1:50:26
  Glenn in combination with the BMW club.
• 1:50:29
  And then they also have two days on Summit Point, Maine, at the end of August.
• 1:50:33
  That's August 28, 29 weekends, uh, shortly followed after that.
• 1:50:37
  They're doing two days.
• 1:50:38
  They call it lightning strikes twice at NJMP lightning circuit
• 1:50:43
  at the end of September.
• 1:50:44
  And me personally, I am looking forward to their season finale at Watkins
• 1:50:49
  Glen in the third week of October, where we'll be there for three days.
• 1:50:53
  We'll also be doing our big end of year get together for the folks
• 1:50:57
  that are able to make it out.
• 1:50:58
  That event is always a lot of fun.
• 1:51:00
  That's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
• 1:51:01
  They're usually third weekend of October.
• 1:51:04
  So if anybody's in the Watkins Glen area or is making the trip, let us know.
• 1:51:08
  We'd love to get together and see you look for our logo, look for our banner and come
• 1:51:12
  visit us in our paddock in our garage.
• 1:51:14
  And, you know, get to know us a little bit better.
• 1:51:16
  Don't forget to check out the other podcast episodes that aired this month.
• 1:51:20
  We learn how to look for more advantages in the most unlikely of places.
• 1:51:24
  By talking tech about motor oils with Liqui Moly.
• 1:51:27
  We got to the moon and back with Mary and Marianne of Moon Mark, discussing
• 1:51:31
  their STEM program where high schoolers will be racing on the moon.
• 1:51:35
  And finally, we expand our oil discussion and crossover with
• 1:51:38
  Blackstone Joe from Slick Talk podcast and learn about oil analysis.
• 1:51:43
  Thank you to everyone that came on the show this month, and please look forward
• 1:51:46
  to more great episodes in season two.
• 1:51:48
  Absolutely.
• 1:51:49
  And like we said, at the beginning of the show.
• 1:51:51
  This episode is number 72, right?
• 1:51:55
  In our first year, it's huge.
• 1:51:57
  There's a big backlog of episodes that you probably haven't listened to many
• 1:52:01
  of which maybe you skipped, right?
• 1:52:03
  And then there's other bonus content available on Patreon.
• 1:52:06
  Again, if you're listening to us for the first time, we appreciate you tuning
• 1:52:10
  in and staying in for one of the longer episodes that comes out every month.
• 1:52:13
  You know, our news recap episode, this is our 12th one again, commemorating our
• 1:52:17
  first anniversary, but go back and check out some of those episodes that we've
• 1:52:21
  done, there's a lot of gems and gold and just some great knowledge altogether.
• 1:52:26
  And if you have suggestions for future shows, let us know, send us
• 1:52:30
  a text at 202 630 1770, or write an email to crewchief at gtmotorsports.
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  org.
• 1:52:36
  We're definitely.
• 1:52:37
  You know, looking for additional information, content.
• 1:52:39
  And if you have somebody you'd like to refer to be on the show,
• 1:52:42
  or you want to be on the show yourself, just give us a shout.
• 1:52:44
  We'd love to have you on here.
• 1:52:46
  So Brad, any closing thoughts as we look back over the year,
• 1:52:49
  I would like to thank all of our guests that we've had over the,
• 1:52:53
  over the last year, especially in season one, you know, the.
• 1:52:56
  The Daniel and the, the Crutchfield and the, the Kasi and, and all of our, I
• 1:53:02
  mean, those are just the club members that we've had on Harry and, and Rob
• 1:53:06
  Lores and Brett, and, you know, all those special guests that we have.
• 1:53:10
  But then also the non-Club member guests and, and sponsors and,
• 1:53:14
  and people that we've had on.
• 1:53:15
  Uh, we appreciate all that you do out there in the motor sports community.
• 1:53:18
  I would like to give a special thanks to Donovan Laura for filling in for me
• 1:53:22
  during the BMW episode that's coming up in the coming weeks or months, as well
• 1:53:27
  as the, the last month's drive through.
• 1:53:30
  I appreciate you filling in.
• 1:53:31
  You did an excellent job.
• 1:53:32
  I listened to it and There were a couple of cracks about me.
• 1:53:35
  Well, whatever, that's fine.
• 1:53:36
  I get it.
• 1:53:36
  You know, whatever.
• 1:53:39
  And Tanya, as you look back over the year, anything you want to say to our,
• 1:53:42
  our loyal three Arbitron rated listeners,
• 1:53:45
  don't be a Florida man or person in general,
• 1:53:49
  but if you live in Florida, we love you.
• 1:53:51
  Yes.
• 1:53:51
  Florida is a perfectly fine state.
• 1:53:54
  Just kidding.
• 1:53:55
  Florida's lovely.
• 1:53:56
  Thank you for being uniquely you.
• 1:53:59
  Every state is diverse and brings us tons of interesting stories.
• 1:54:03
  So thank you for that
• 1:54:04
  big shout out to Tanya.
• 1:54:06
  We couldn't do this without her.
• 1:54:07
  We couldn't do this without all the people that send us these little nuggets
• 1:54:11
  every month that we're collecting and putting into this, this episode
• 1:54:14
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• 1:54:16
  And, you know, there's a countless hours that go into this, and it's
• 1:54:20
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• 1:54:22
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• 1:54:25
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• 1:54:28
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• 1:54:36
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• 1:54:52
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• 1:54:56
  I lean out the window and scream.
• 1:54:58
  Hey, what you're trying to do blind me?
• 1:55:01
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