Latest / Reformed Thinking / Brothers, Show Your People Why God Inspired Hard Texts | John Piper
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- 0:00Welcome to The Deep Dive, the show where we take your source
- 0:02materials and really break them down for you.
- 0:05Think of it as a shortcut to getting well informed with some
- 0:08surprising facts and good discussion along the way.
- 0:11Today we're jumping in some really interesting insights you
- 0:13shared about, well, the very nature of God and how that
- 0:16actually effects Christian faith and culture in tangible ways.
- 0:19We'll be looking at how God's deliberate design, even in those
- 0:22parts of the Bible that make you scratch your head, sparks
- 0:25intellectual and spiritual growth both in US and really
- 0:29throughout history. Yes, we definitely have some
- 0:31weighty ideas to unpack today. Things that get right to the
- 0:35core of Christian understanding. You could say our focus is going
- 0:39to be on how God's character, the way he reveals himself in
- 0:42Scripture, shapes how we understand things and how we
- 0:46live as believers. We'll look specifically at how
- 0:49the, let's say, the demanding parts of the Bible and also
- 0:52those twin truths that God is totally transcendent and
- 0:54supremely loving. How these create distinct but
- 0:58complementary drives within his people.
- 1:01This dive should help us see why Christianity encourages both,
- 1:04you know, rigorous thinking and a worldwide outreach, at least
- 1:07to this rich expression of faith that has really shaped the
- 1:10world. OK, so let's start with
- 1:11something the apostle Peter observed about Paul's letters.
- 1:14It's quite striking, actually. You might think, maybe naturally
- 1:17assume that inspired scripture would be, well, crystal clear,
- 1:21easy to grasp right away. Like a divine memo maybe?
- 1:24Exactly. But Peter paints a different
- 1:27picture. It suggests A deliberate design
- 1:28behind the text itself. He says Paul wrote according to
- 1:31the wisdom given him. Now that's.
- 1:33Key, right? It's not just Paul being clever
- 1:35or insightful on his own. No, Peter's clear this wisdom
- 1:38came from God, a divine helping hand guiding his thoughts.
- 1:43And it's that divine wisdom that puts Paul's writings for Peter
- 1:47on the same level as the rest of the Scriptures.
- 1:51It affirms them as inspired, God breathed, authoritative.
- 1:56But here's the twist. Even though they're divinely
- 1:58inspired, Peter says in all his letters, they're some things
- 2:01hard to understand. He doesn't just brush this off.
- 2:04It's a direct acknowledgement that difficulty exists right
- 2:07there within inspired scripture. And crucially, he doesn't just
- 2:10blame us, the readers, for being, you know, dull or slow to
- 2:14catch on. Right, he points to something
- 2:16more fundamental of a God's own character, and maybe his
- 2:20communication strategy. Our sources suggest that God,
- 2:23even being the perfect communicator, doesn't always
- 2:25make everything simple. When he died, a writer.
- 2:27So the difficulty isn't a mistake or a flaw.
- 2:31Apparently not. It seems to be an intentional
- 2:33feature, part of the design meant to achieve something in
- 2:36US. And Peter adds that warning too,
- 2:38doesn't he, about the untaught and unstable distorting these
- 2:41hard parts? Yes, and other scriptures too,
- 2:44to their own destruction. It shows there are real stakes
- 2:47involved in how we handle God's Word, especially the challenging
- 2:50bits. It's serious business.
- 2:52OK, so an observation from an apostle like Peter that carries
- 2:56a lot of weight. Immense weight.
- 2:58And it does two things, really. First, it kind of validates our
- 3:01own struggles, right? When we read a passage and
- 3:03think, wow, what does that mean? Yeah, it's comforting in a way.
- 3:06It is, but second, it raises this really big question, what
- 3:11does it tell us about God that he would choose to inspire these
- 3:15demanding, sometimes really mind straining paragraphs in his book
- 3:19and then build his whole church, the entire Christian faith on
- 3:23that book? That's a powerful question.
- 3:24It flips the script a bit. Instead of seeing difficulty as
- 3:27a problem, maybe it's a feature. Exactly.
- 3:30Our insights draw on CS Lewis here.
- 3:32He noted that becoming a Christian is going to take the
- 3:35whole of you, brains and all. Not meaning you need a PhD, but
- 3:38no. Not at all.
- 3:39But that the faith itself is educational.
- 3:42It actually sharpens your intelligence as you engage with
- 3:45it. There's an intellectual element
- 3:46woven right in. So the core question is what did
- 3:50God unleash by founding the faith on texts like Romans?
- 3:54Especially tricky bits like Romans 3.1 to 8 with all its
- 3:57arguments about righteousness and sin and faith.
- 4:00This isn't just about giving us mental puzzles.
- 4:03It seems to be about God's deliberate design and the
- 4:05effects he wanted to ripple out into the world.
- 4:08That idea that God intentionally made parts of his word demanding
- 4:14this is fascinating. Some might wonder though, why
- 4:17not make it super simple? If he's perfect, how do those
- 4:20fit together? That's a fair question, but the
- 4:22material suggests this design, these demanding sections,
- 4:26actually unleashes 4 specific and really significant impulses.
- 4:29OK, let's unpack those. What's the 1st?
- 4:31One the first is desperation. Desperation.
- 4:34That sounds negative? Well.
- 4:35Maybe the word sounds negative, but the impulse itself isn't.
- 4:38It's about God intending for us to feel a real sense of
- 4:41dependence when we hit those challenging texts.
- 4:43Dependence. OK, not hopelessness.
- 4:46Right. It's real, our own limits and
- 4:48needing divine help. Our analysis points to 1st
- 4:51Corinthians 2.14. It says the natural person does
- 4:55not accept the things of the Spirit of God and is not able to
- 4:58understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
- 5:01So without the Spirit's help, we just can't get it.
- 5:04Fundamentally, yes, and that applies even to believers.
- 5:07We're spiritual, yes, but still finite, still fallible, still
- 5:11affected by sin, so we also should feel that need for God's
- 5:15help to really grasp His Word. It's humbling, but it frees us
- 5:19from thinking we have to figure it all out ourselves.
- 5:21So God wants us to feel that dependence.
- 5:24He unleashed it by putting those hard texts there.
- 5:26That seems to be the idea. It's a call to look beyond our
- 5:29own smarts and rely completely on him for understanding.
- 5:32OK, so from that sense of desperation, that dependence,
- 5:34yeah. What comes next?
- 5:36Well, the natural outflow is supplication, which is just a
- 5:39word for prayer. Makes sense.
- 5:41If you realize you need help, you ask for it.
- 5:43Exactly. You don't just sit there feeling
- 5:45needy, You act on it. You move from recognizing your
- 5:48limits to actively seeking God's wisdom.
- 5:51Feeling dependent makes us want to, well, cry to Him for help as
- 5:56the source. Puts it.
- 5:57And we see this in the Bible itself.
- 5:58Oh absolutely. The sources highlight prayers
- 6:00from the Psalms. Think about Psalm 119.18.
- 6:04Open my eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of your law.
- 6:08That's not just asking for information, is it?
- 6:10No, it's asking for supernatural insight, for God to remove the
- 6:13scales from our eyes, so to speak, so His truth can shine
- 6:15through. And you mentioned it's repeated.
- 6:17Yes, seven times in that one Psalm, Psalm 119, the psalmist
- 6:21prays teach me or statutes, verses 122664 and so on.
- 6:25It shows this ongoing posture of needing divine teaching.
- 6:29And Psalm 25.5. Similar idea.
- 6:31Lead me in your truth and teach me.
- 6:33It's a pattern. So God basically prompted this
- 6:36prayerfulness by including things that are hard to grasp.
- 6:39The difficulty itself pushes us to pray, drawing us closer to
- 6:43Him in the process. All right, so desperation leads
- 6:45to prayer, supplication that feels very spiritual, very
- 6:49reliant on God. But then the next impulse seems
- 6:52almost opposite. Rigorous thinking, cogitation.
- 6:55How do dependence and hard mental effort work together?
- 6:59Aren't they alternatives? That's a great question and it's
- 7:01easy to think they are alternatives, but the material
- 7:04is clear. Praying and thinking work
- 7:07together. They're synergistic, Paul tells
- 7:09Timothy and Timothy 2.7. Think over what I say, for the
- 7:13Lord will give you understanding in everything.
- 7:16So there are two parts there. Think over.
- 7:18Right. Engage your mind.
- 7:20Ponder it deeply. For the Lord will give you
- 7:22understanding. Exactly.
- 7:23God grants the understanding, but He grants it through the
- 7:26minds he gave us and the effort we put in, combined with that
- 7:30playerful dependence. It's both hand not either.
- 7:33So those complex texts like Romans 3, they're designed to
- 7:36make us think hard. Yes.
- 7:38They push us to analyze, connect ideas, follow arguments.
- 7:41They unleash that impulse toward hard thinking.
- 7:44And Lewis observed this too, didn't he?
- 7:46That trying to be a Christian sharpens the intelligence.
- 7:49Right, so wrestling with hard texts isn't a sign we're
- 7:51failing. It's God refining our minds as
- 7:54we seek Him through study and prayer.
- 7:55Precisely, it's part of the process.
- 7:57OK, so we have desperation leading to supplication prayer
- 8:02which works alongside cogitation thinking.
- 8:04What does this all culminate in? Well, this whole process,
- 8:08needing help, asking for help, thinking hard with that help, it
- 8:12logically leads to the broader impulse of education.
- 8:15Education. How does that follow?
- 8:17Think about it. If God gave a book, especially a
- 8:19sometimes demanding book, as the foundation for the faith, that
- 8:24immediately created this massive need, this impulse to teach
- 8:27people not just how to read it, but how to understand it, how to
- 8:30think well about what they're reading.
- 8:32So not just basic literacy, but critical thinking skills applied
- 8:35to scripture. Yes, exactly.
- 8:37How to handle challenging concepts, how to use the mind
- 8:41rigorously to grasp God's revelation.
- 8:43It means developing ways to teach these things.
- 8:46And this isn't just a one off thing.
- 8:47Remember Paul telling Timothy in Second Timothy 2.2?
- 8:51To entrust what he learned to faithful men.
- 8:53Who will be able to teach others Also it sets up this multi
- 8:56generational chain of teaching and learning, building an
- 9:00informed community. So education here isn't just
- 9:02about downloading facts. No, it's about cultivating the
- 9:06mind to grow in real understanding, equipping people
- 9:09to engage deeply with God's Word, articulate it, and pass it
- 9:13on faithfully. Wow, so the effects of these
- 9:15demanding texts go way beyond just personal study habits.
- 9:19Oh, far beyond. Our analysis shows this design
- 9:22has had just enormous personal, cultural and historical impacts
- 9:26over the last 2000 years. It's really quite staggering
- 9:30when you look at it. Like what for instance?
- 9:32Well, start with the Bible itself.
- 9:35Wherever Christianity went, the Bible went, and that immediately
- 9:38sparked this drive to translate it.
- 9:40Into the local languages so people could actually read it.
- 9:42Right. And translation isn't easy,
- 9:44especially for a text like the Bible.
- 9:45It forced the development of sophisticated intellectual
- 9:48skills. You need to understand
- 9:49linguistics, culture, theology. Precisely.
- 9:53Think about figures like Wycliffe or Tyndale giving his
- 9:56life to get the Bible into English from the original
- 9:58languages, or Luther's German Bible.
- 10:01These were monumental intellectual and spiritual
- 10:04undertakings. And that drove literacy, didn't
- 10:06it? Massively, if the Bible is
- 10:08translated, people need to be able to read it.
- 10:10So it fostered literacy, breaking down old barriers, and
- 10:14it created this ongoing need to teach each generation to read
- 10:17God's word for themselves. It changed who had access to
- 10:21knowledge. OK, so translation and literacy
- 10:23were huge. What else?
- 10:24Well, that drive to understand Scripture, especially the harder
- 10:28parts needing careful study, directly led to founding
- 10:31schools, often right alongside churches.
- 10:33Places dedicated to learning focus initially on the Bible.
- 10:36Yes, but it grew from there because engaging with the Bible
- 10:40forces you to think about history, law, ethics,
- 10:42philosophy, you name it. It naturally spurred the rise of
- 10:46higher learning. This is why so many of the
- 10:48world's oldest universities started as places focus on
- 10:51theology and biblical study like.
- 10:53Oxford, Cambridge, Paris. Exactly.
- 10:56Or Harvard and Yale in America, founded initially to train
- 10:59clergy and educated laypeople who could handle Scriptures
- 11:02debts. The need to understand the Bible
- 11:04laid the groundwork for structured academic inquiry in
- 11:07the West. That's incredible.
- 11:09And what about preserving all this knowledge?
- 11:11Another key outcome? The drive to grasp these weighty
- 11:15biblical ideas, to wrestle with the texts, led to a commitment
- 11:19to scholarship. People wrote down their
- 11:21insights, debated them, refined. Them so you need ways to keep
- 11:25all that writing safe and accessible.
- 11:27Right. And that spurred the growth of
- 11:28libraries, places to store manuscripts and scrolls.
- 11:32Think of the monasteries in the Middle Ages, painstakingly
- 11:35copying texts. Preserving not just the Bible,
- 11:37but other knowledge too. Yes.
- 11:39And then, of course, the printing press, Gutenberg's
- 11:42invention, partly driven by wanting to produce Bibles more
- 11:45efficiently, absolutely revolutionize things.
- 11:47Suddenly, information gets spread like wildfire.
- 11:49Exactly. Scholarship, commentaries, the
- 11:52Bible itself, it all became widely available, ensuring these
- 11:56insights could be passed down more accurately and reach far
- 11:59more people. And there was one more impact
- 12:01mentioned, something about handling truth.
- 12:03Yes, this whole process instilled a kind of discipline
- 12:07in how truth itself was handled. When you're dealing with what
- 12:10you believe is God's sacred Word and you feel the weight of
- 12:13passing on vital insights accurately, it cultivates, as
- 12:17the source says, a discipline of exactness and carefulness.
- 12:21So precision matters. Absolutely.
- 12:25The Ritter needed for biblical study fostered A mindset that
- 12:28valued logical consistency, careful attention to detail,
- 12:32fidelity to the source, and this arguably influenced other fields
- 12:36to law, science, etcetera. The idea that truth is precious
- 12:39and must be handled with care became deeply rooted.
- 12:43OK, so we've seen this incredible chain reaction
- 12:45starting from God, intentionally including difficult passages in
- 12:48Scripture. It drives desperation, prayer,
- 12:50thinking, education, translation, university
- 12:53scholars. Wow, it really is a remarkable
- 12:56picture of God's design having far reaching effects.
- 12:59But our sources then bring in a crucial balance, right?
- 13:01It's not just about the difficulty in the intellectual
- 13:04side. No, absolutely not.
- 13:06That would be an incomplete picture.
- 13:08The balance comes from looking at two other foundational truths
- 13:10about God, which are God is love, which we see in first John
- 13:14four, and God is God drawing from passages like Isaiah 45 and
- 13:1846. God is God.
- 13:20What does that capture? It captures his absolute
- 13:22uniqueness, his self existence. Theologians call it a seity.
- 13:26He just is. He depends on nothing.
- 13:28His glory, his power, his wisdom are inherent to his being.
- 13:32He's utterly transcendent. OK, the absolute sovereign Lord.
- 13:35Right. And knowing that makes the other
- 13:37truth even more stunning. God is love, meaning all that
- 13:41inherent glory and goodness isn't kept to himself.
- 13:43It's actually moving towards believers.
- 13:45For our good, for our enjoyment. He pours himself out.
- 13:48So the transcendent God is also intimately relational and
- 13:51giving. Exactly.
- 13:52And these two truths? God is God.
- 13:54God is love. They unleash distinct balancing
- 13:57impulses. They ensure Christianity doesn't
- 14:00become just an intellectual club.
- 14:01OK, so how do these balancing impulses work?
- 14:03The sources mention pairs. Yes, let's look at those pairs
- 14:07first. From God is Love, you get the
- 14:09impulse for simplicity and accessibility.
- 14:11This highlights the core gospel message like Acts 16.31.
- 14:16Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved.
- 14:19Simple, direct, available to anyone.
- 14:21The open arms of God. Right, but balanced by God is
- 14:25God, which gives the impulse for intricate truth and depth.
- 14:28This pushes us to declare the whole counsel of God like Paul
- 14:31did, not watering anything down, embracing the fullness of his
- 14:34revelation, even the complex parts, because he is God.
- 14:37So simple enough for a child, deep enough for a lifetime of
- 14:40study. Precisely.
- 14:41Then consider reach versus accuracy.
- 14:44God is Love fuels that universal reach.
- 14:47It drives missions and evangelism, wanting everyone to
- 14:50do the good news, God's heart for the world.
- 14:52Taking the message everywhere, yes.
- 14:54But God is God brings the crucial balance of accurate
- 14:58truth. It insists that the message
- 15:00being spread is the actual truth, no distortions, no
- 15:02compromises. It guards the integrity of God's
- 15:05revelation, reflecting His faithfulness.
- 15:07OK, what about community and personal focus?
- 15:09God is love naturally fosters fellowship and encourages an
- 15:13outward focus. Like evangelism, it builds
- 15:15community shared life driven by God's love among believers.
- 15:19The relational aspect. Yes, but God is God balances
- 15:23this with the impulse towards scholarship, contemplation, even
- 15:27artistic expression like poetry celebrating His Majesty.
- 15:31This leads some to deep study, reflection, plumbing the depths
- 15:35of who God is. While it might seem more
- 15:37solitary, it enriches the whole church with deeper understanding
- 15:40and the. Last pair I mentioned was about
- 15:41the feel, the ethos of faith. Right.
- 15:44God is love fosters what the sources call a folk ethos.
- 15:48Think intimacy, personal connection, maybe softer,
- 15:51heartfelt worship like singing. Lord, you are more precious than
- 15:54silver. It's about closeness,
- 15:56tenderness. Personal and relational.
- 15:57Yes, and then God is God fosters a fine ethos.
- 16:01This rebels in God's transcendence, His Majesty, his
- 16:03awesome sovereignty. Think grand hymns may be like
- 16:06Gerhardt's Give to the winds, thy fears, expressing awe and
- 16:09reverence for his greatness. A sense.
- 16:10Of wonder and majesty. Exactly.
- 16:12Both are valid, beautiful expressions of responding to who
- 16:15God is. It's easy to see how people
- 16:17might lean towards one side or the other in these pairs, isn't
- 16:20it? Some prefer the simple, others
- 16:22the complex, some the fellowship, others the study.
- 16:25It's very natural. We all have different
- 16:27personalities and gifts, but the sources are really clear.
- 16:31Every single aspect is valuable. Simplicity and depth, Outreach
- 16:35and accuracy, Fellowship and scholarship.
- 16:39The intimate and the majestic. Are all needed.
- 16:41Absolutely indispensable is the Word used for the ministry and
- 16:45mission of Christ. They aren't competing ideas,
- 16:48they're complementary facets of the full picture of faith.
- 16:52So the call is to embrace both, not pick sides.
- 16:55Yes, to see them as different sides of the same coin, both
- 16:58reflecting something true about God.
- 17:00Neglecting 1 aspect gives us a diminished view of God and
- 17:03limits our effectiveness. And this balanced view, it has
- 17:05practical results. It's not just the illogical
- 17:07theory. Definitely practical.
- 17:08Our sources say being respectful and affirming of those who lean
- 17:12the other way is vital. So seeing the differences of
- 17:14strengths contributing to a fuller picture.
- 17:16Exactly when we value both the simple and the complex, the
- 17:20accessible and the profound, the intimate and the majestic, it
- 17:23leads to a fuller manifestation of God in His Church and in the
- 17:27world. The church better reflects the
- 17:29God it serves. Right.
- 17:30And this actually helps advance evangelism and missions.
- 17:33How? By breaking down stereotypes.
- 17:37So people don't just see one extreme, either shallow or
- 17:40unreachably intellectual. Precisely if Christianity looks
- 17:44only simplistic, some will dismiss it.
- 17:46If it looks only like a dense intellectual exercise, others
- 17:49feel excluded. But when people see the breadth,
- 17:53the loving invitation and the call to use our minds, the warm
- 17:56fellowship and the profound truths, they get a much more
- 18:00compelling picture. It allows them to see all that
- 18:02God is for them in Christ and to believe on Him.
- 18:05It presents the whole package, you could say.
- 18:07A robust, winsome and true picture of Christ for the world.
- 18:11What a fascinating look at God's design, from those difficult
- 18:14verses that make us rely on Him and think hard, all the way to
- 18:17these grand truths about His nature that shape everything
- 18:21from universities to our worship styles.
- 18:24It really feels like an intentional integrated plan.
- 18:26It does indeed. It shows how God works through
- 18:29His Word and through our engagement with it to shape us
- 18:32and the world in remarkable ways.
- 18:34So as we wrap up, maybe something for you, the listener
- 18:37to think about. Yes.
- 18:38Consider how understanding these twin impulses, the drive for
- 18:41depth and rigor from God is God, and the drive for simplicity and
- 18:45outreach from God is love. How might that reshape your own
- 18:48approach? Could you perhaps appreciate
- 18:51both the straightforward gospel message and the intricate
- 18:54doctrines more fully, letting each give you a richer view of
- 18:57God? Maybe it means tackling that
- 18:59difficult passage you've been avoiding.
- 19:00Knowing the struggle itself is part of God plan.
- 19:03Or maybe it's about sharing a simple truth about God's love
- 19:05with someone, recognizing the value in that accessibility.
- 19:09How can you embrace more of that fullness in your own faith and
- 19:13interactions? That's definitely something
- 19:15valuable to reflect on. Thanks for joining us for this
- 19:18deep dive into God's Word here on the Deep Dive.
- 19:20Until next time, keep seeking to know the Lord more fully.