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Faith Built on Evidence with J. Warner Wallace & From Old to New: Listeners' Testimonies · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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  S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
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  S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
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  S1: the truth daily.
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  S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available.
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  S2: And you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
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  S2: that would make it worth it.
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  S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S3: the life source, which is God.
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  S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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  S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and crew. You can't talk too much about it, young Thunder.
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  S1: I'm just giving you a forewarning right now.
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  S3: I know I can't.
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  S1: I don't want to hear you prattle on about it.
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  S3: I won't, I won't, I'll be careful.
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  S1: You don't even know what I'm talking about.
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  S3: I know exactly what you're talking about.
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  S1: Well, I didn't know until I just read some local
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  S1: news here that the cubbies came when I went to bed.
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  S1: They were down by two runs.
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  S3: Yeah. Yeah.
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  S1: So they had to tie it up and then go ahead.
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  S1: Now pardon us. I know you live in Florida and
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  S1: you're like, come on, let's talk about something somewhere else. Yeah.
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  S1: So the topic is and I can make this fit
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  S1: into our show. Okay. Nothing like a comeback spiritually, people.
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  S3: Ain't nothing like a comeback.
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  S1: Nothing like a comeback, baby.
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  S2: But didn't they beat the Sox?
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  S3: Yes they did.
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  S2: Yeah. Okay, so some of us aren't.
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  S1: I know, I know. So you got socks. You got
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  S1: Sox colors on, right?
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  S3: Yeah you.
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  S4: Do.
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  S2: Come on. We're definitely a city divided. There are Cubs
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  S2: and Sox fans.
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  S3: Well, that's true. That's true.
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  S2: Don't you know? And then some cards thrown in there are.
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  S1: And we're praying for those Sox fans.
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  S3: That's right. That's right. Absolutely. Wow. That was a great game.
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  S1: Yeah. It's a rough morning. And Natalie is sporting the
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  S1: Sox colors this morning.
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  S2: Not intentionally. To full disclosure, I'm full disclosure. Not a
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  S2: big baseball fan, but if I had to pick, I'm
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  S2: going with the Sox.
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  S3: Okay.
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  S1: Yeah. I mean, they got a good ball club.
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  S3: Yeah, they're better than they were expected to be this year,
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  S3: by far. Very positive.
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  S1: They stunk it up so bad you could smell them
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  S1: in the middle of the Mississippi.
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  S3: Wow.
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  S1: No, I mean, even Sox fans say that.
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  S3: Oh, sure. I mean, yeah, no.
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  S1: One's arguing that point. They were setting records for first
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  S1: half losses or something. Crazy. First half of the season.
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  S3: Mhm. And I mean it's the well they had a
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  S3: I think they they had the season record a couple
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  S3: years ago for most losses in a season.
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  S1: Uh oh.
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  S3: That's right. That was.
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  S1: Two years.
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  S3: Ago.
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  S1: Yeah. So we had a couple of years of stinketh.
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  S3: Yeah. But they're doing really good now. But last night. Okay,
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  S3: this is the only thing I'll say about it because
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  S3: it's really cool.
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  S1: Why? I had to do a preemptive strike and this
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  S1: guy could rattle on forever.
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  S3: I wasn't going to say anything, but go ahead. But
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  S3: Pete Crow-armstrong, who is one of the front runners for
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  S3: the MVP of the National League, I'll just say that, uh,
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  S3: he had a, he had a first pitch of the
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  S3: game home run.
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  S1: Oh.
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  S3: Did he. And he had the walk off home run.
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  S1: Oh.
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  S3: Did he. He is the seventh player in MLB history
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  S3: to start the game with a home run and end
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  S3: the game with a home run.
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  S2: Whose random stats.
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  S1: Well hold it now if we're going to talk crazy stats.
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  S1: Ali would love this one.
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  S2: Okay.
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  S1: Say it. There's a kid named Baez who just came up.
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  S3: To the Cardinals. Yeah.
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  S1: To the Cardinals. I know his first at bat home run. Oh, wow.
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  S1: Second at bat, home run. That's right. His third at bat.
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  S1: Home run!
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  S3: No way. That was in the Cubs. Yeah. Three home
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  S3: run game in his first MLB game ever.
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  S2: First three at bats.
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  S3: First three at bats ever against the Cubs at Wrigley Field.
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  S3: Three home run game. Yeah.
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  S2: That's awesome.
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  S3: No it's not. It was Saint Louis Cardinals. It was
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  S3: not awesome.
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  S1: It is.
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  S3: Awesome.
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  S1: I'm with Ali, I'm with Ali.
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  S3: I know, it is awesome.
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  S1: It's it's one of those things I. The kid was
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  S1: beside himself. What's crazy is he didn't look shocked. It
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  S1: looked like he's trotting around going, yeah, I knew I
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  S1: had this image.
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  S3: He is a very good prospect coming up. But I mean,
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  S3: three home runs in a game is not expected for
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  S3: a very veteran player, let alone a kid in his
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  S3: first game.
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  S4: Just walks up and goes, hello?
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  S3: I mean, I'm here now.
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  S1: Now it's it's he's sobered up. I think he's now
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  S1: hitting like 261 or something.
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  S2: That's almost a tough way to start just because it
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  S2: sets the bar. So you.
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  S1: Are not.
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  S3: Kidding.
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  S2: Absolutely right. And you're like okay.
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  S3: People think, oh, the next Barry Bonds is here for
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  S3: one game. And then it's like, well, no, I'm a
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  S3: normal person.
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  S1: But here's the cool thing about it. He had 30
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  S1: family in the stands.
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  S3: Oh that's cool. Okay, fine. I can.
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  S4: Imagine.
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  S1: Crazy. And so I didn't. Don't cry for me, Argentina.
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  S1: I was happy for this guy. I wasn't. I was
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  S1: really happy for him. I know it was the Cubs
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  S1: and that stinks. Oh, sure. Club a man. And they
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  S1: were deep, deep, deep. I mean, they were they were
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  S1: no no brainers. They were going I just isn't it
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  S1: cool when kids do. Well.
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  S2: Yes. And I think in sports, even if you're cheering,
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  S2: you have like a vested interest in who wins. I
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  S2: think there's something cool about knowing you're watching something historical happen, something.
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  S2: That's when, you know, when Kobe goes off for 81
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  S2: or when you know, just those moments in sports where
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  S2: you're watching somebody do something very special, very great. And
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  S2: you know, people are going to be talking about it
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  S2: for years. I want to be in the building for that,
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  S2: no matter who I'm cheering for.
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  S3: I will say that is usually the case. If there's
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  S3: 30 teams, that's the case for 29 other teams. You
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  S3: never want to be the team where history happens again.
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  S2: I'm talking about from a fan perspective, I'm I'm not
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  S2: talking from.
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  S1: A purely fan perspective.
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  S3: From a purely fan of the game perspective.
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  S2: Yes. If you're on the other team, you're not like, oh, wow,
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  S2: history is being made.
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  S3: I'm so happy that my team is getting frustrated.
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  S4: Yeah, we'll be in the books.
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  S2: As a fan. As a fan?
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  S3: Yeah. Oh, man.
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  S1: Excuse me.
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  S2: How's that coffee?
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  S3: Yeah. Just stop.
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  S1: You guys were going for it. So I thought, man,
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  S1: hang on, hang on, everybody. This is so good.
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  S2: Real relaxed here this morning.
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  S1: I am kind of chill. Get some dark roast going.
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  S2: Don't mind us.
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  S4: What's your mug say there? It says.
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  S1: Sorry about that. I did get caught on that one.
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  S4: I'm trying to read your mug, though. I'm trying to
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  S4: read your mug. What does it say? Blessed.
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  S1: It says blessed. It says blessed.
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  S3: Do you feel blessed today?
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  S1: I feel blessed, I feel blessed, dude.
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  S4: I knew that I would.
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  S3: That's a good song.
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  S1: All right, coming up, we got a question for you.
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  S1: And it's all related to the unstoppable gospel. You know,
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  S1: I'm going to ask it now. So yesterday. Oh, Ali
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  S1: was out. Ali, we got a good news to report.
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  S1: We were sharing the gospel in a couple of blocks
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  S1: and really answering the question. You were baptized but weren't
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  S1: born again. The amount of calls we got in proves
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  S1: that we've got a it's a real thing.
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  S2: Yeah.
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  S1: I mean, it is the amount of calls that we
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  S1: got in tells me where we are in step with
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  S1: the spirit on this topic that we've been hammering, and
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  S1: we can't stop anytime soon. We really can't. And Joseph
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  S1: and then Joseph calls in. So here's the cool story.
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  S1: Boom crew and Ali, everybody listen in. This is so cool.
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  S1: So we're we're going after this storyline. And then somewhere
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  S1: I popped in the gospel. Well, about that time, the
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  S1: Holy Spirit had this guy Joseph. Where was he? What
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  S1: state is he in?
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  S3: He was in Florida.
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  S1: Florida. So he's driving down the road and he gets
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  S1: on something. Told him to go to this to a channel. Anyway,
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  S1: he lands on us. His life is a wreck. He
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  S1: was baptized as a kid. He's been far from God.
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  S1: He was never born again. And he starts hearing about
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  S1: this and he calls in and he says, I was back.
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  S1: So he calls in with the story, says, I was baptized,
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  S1: but I am nowhere, basically with God.
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  S2: Wow.
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  S1: And we got to watch the Spirit of God change
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  S1: his soul right here on air.
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  S2: Oh, man.
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  S1: And it was really cool. So Joseph, uh, Jonathan got
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  S1: him hooked up with everything he needs for a new
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  S1: follower of Jesus. And it's, it's cool. And then we
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  S1: had scores of people surrender to Christ yesterday to day.
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  S3: Yeah. It was really awesome.
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  S1: It was, it was awesome. Also got to get one
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  S1: other thing in here. Oh my goodness. We got the
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  S1: best tool from Doctor Drew Dickens ever in the links
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  S1: just poured out of here.
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  S3: So oh that was really cool.
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  S1: So this is really cool. Everybody's sitting here going, oh great,
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  S1: I missed yesterday. No you didn't. Because especially this Drew
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  S1: Dickens piece. No joking. He created an AI. What did
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  S1: he create?
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  S3: What is it he created? Basically, it's a it's an
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  S3: AI evangelism training tool. Yeah. So so the AI will
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  S3: create a, a person, a character, if you will, from from.
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  S1: Any world religion.
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  S3: Yeah.
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  S1: Of 12 world religions.
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  S3: The top 12 world religions. And you can have a
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  S3: conversation with this person to practice evangelizing to someone of
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  S3: that religion. And at the end, it's like sitting down
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  S3: and having a coffee shop conversation. You can kind of
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  S3: rate the intensity of their religion and their beliefs. And
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  S3: I want someone who's very Muslim, or I want someone
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  S3: who's kind of culturally Muslim, and I want to talk
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  S3: with them about this. And then at the end of
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  S3: the conversation, the AI will kind of grade you almost
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  S3: telling you what you can improve on, what you did
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  S3: really well and how you can grow and practice for
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  S3: real conversations.
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  S4: Wow, you're.
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  S1: An apologetics girl. This, this is going to sharpen people's
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  S1: swords with regard to wielding the Word of God so
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  S1: that we can know, okay, these are the. Because a
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  S1: lot of people look at Hinduism. What do we really
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  S1: know and believe about that than we had J. Warner
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  S1: Wallace on. And he said, the interesting thing about Jesus
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  S1: is he's in every world religion, but only one. Is
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  S1: he the atoning sacrifice. That's another. I digress, but what
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  S1: drew did was he he built this through prompts. You
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  S1: know how long it took him ten minutes to build
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  S1: this platform?
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  S3: That's crazy.
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  S4: And he built it for us, for the.
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  S3: For the specifically for the.
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  S4: For us.
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  S2: You're out one day.
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  S3: I know you missed a lot.
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  S4: Rally one day.
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  S1: It was a.
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  S4: Great.
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  S1: Day. It was such a good day. We're shutting down
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  S1: the rest of.
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  S2: The days off.
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  S4: Maybe that's.
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  S2: No no no no.
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  S1: No no no no. But but in all seriousness, boom crew,
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  S1: you've got to get this tool from Drew Dickens. And
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  S1: the way to do it is to grab the show cast.
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  S1: Go back yesterday, take a listen to it, I mean,
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  S1: I was gobsmacked. I'm like, wow, wow, what a tool.
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  S3: It was a week's worth in one day, that's for sure.
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  S2: Absolutely. Was there a key word at the risk of
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  S2: doing some live on air stuff?
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  S1: Yeah, you can go. You you can go to drew. Yeah.
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  S1: You can keyword drew to 805, five, five, 78, 98.
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  S1: Or you can get the show cast and list, or
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  S1: you can get the show cast and listen to the
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  S1: the word show to 805 five, five, 78, 98. Boy,
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  S1: we've been all around Macready's barn here, man.
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  S3: Worth it.
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  S1: Oh my goodness, Ali, you will love this little thing.
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  S2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna check it out. I'm looking at
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  S2: the link now, so I'm definitely going to get caught up.
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  S1: Well, well, I was talking with him. I thought, oh,
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  S1: Ali kiddo is gonna dig this one big time.
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  S2: Oh, boy. Okay. I'm looking forward to it.
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  S1: Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh, we're moving on here. Oh,
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  S1: I said I had a question. Is this too much?
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  S3: Uh, no.
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  S1: Oh, yeah. So? So here's the deal. The whole theme
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  S1: this week is the unstoppable gospel. And. One of the
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  S1: coolest things that we find in Scripture. Second Corinthians 517. Um,
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  S1: I'm a new creation. The old has passed away. The
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  S1: new has come. So we're going to take your calls
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  S1: right now about a simple like on the nose question,
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  S1: what passed away and what became new. Now think about
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  S1: that a second. So when you're a new creation in Jesus,
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  S1: the old has passed away. All things have become new.
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  S1: As a matter of fact. But we're just asking you
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  S1: what passed away, what died, and what became new in
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  S1: your life when you were radically transformed by the grace
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  S1: of God, I want you to call in right now
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  S1: 805 557898. Give us a call. What passed away? What
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  S1: became new? Let's go. Light em up. Be bold with
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  S1: the gospel here today. What did God do in you?
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  S1: 805 five, five, 78, 98.
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  S5: You're listening to Carl and Crew on Moody Radio.
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  S1: Who am I to deny what the Lord can do?
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  S1: And he can. We're talking the unstoppable gospel all week long.
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  S1: Check this out. This is this is interesting. I'm going
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  S1: to get into this a little bit later today. Therefore,
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  S1: if anyone is in Christ, he's a new creation. The
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  S1: old has passed away. Behold, the new has come. Uh,
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  S1: let me get into it right now. Okay. This is
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  S1: one of my heartaches that we get here from time
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  S1: to time. Uh, often is people lack assurance of salvation, right?
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  S2: Yes.
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  S1: Big time. Now, there's two things going on. Some people
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  S1: lack assurance of salvation because they aren't saved. straight up.
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  S1: That's a very real present danger in the West today.
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  S1: Full stop.
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  S3: Sure. I have assurance of salvation. What's that? I said
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  S3: I didn't have assurance of salvation. Uh, 6 or 7
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  S3: years ago. It's because I wasn't saved.
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  S1: You weren't born again. And. And some of the things
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  S1: that you grapple for, for assurance of salvation are very
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  S1: skin deep. It's like attendance and involvement and it's religious activity. Okay.
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  S1: That's Matthew seven. And many on that day will appeal
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  S1: to religious activity. And I don't blame you for kind
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  S1: of leaning back on that, because that's a common Western
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  S1: metric for am I a Christian? Right?
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  S2: Yes. AM I doing a Christian things? Things. Yeah.
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  S1: Yeah. So therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he's a
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  S1: new creation. The old has passed away. The new has come.
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  S1: This is a great passage of a spiritual reality that
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  S1: is going to bring forth change. Some of the old
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  S1: stuff is going to die. If you can't look at
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  S1: stuff that has died in your relationship with Christ and
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  S1: new stuff that's come in. It could be God's dinner
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  S1: bell that you're not born again. Fair enough.
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  S3: Fair enough, fair enough.
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  S1: So you go to Romans 813. Is it 813? Yes.
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  S1: The Spirit of God agrees. If we're born of God,
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  S1: the Spirit of God agrees with our spirit that we
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  S1: are children of God. The Holy Spirit will speak into
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  S1: our spirit. Little s big s little s will speak
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  S1: into our souls that we are children of God. There
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  S1: will be a connection at a spirit level with the
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  S1: Holy Spirit saying, you're my kid. And I would say.
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  S1: You are one of the one of the greatest things
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  S1: that you can do is begin to look at the
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  S1: word and go, okay, what is true of genuine followers
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  S1: of Jesus? I just gave you two, three things. Actually,
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  S1: old stuff dies, new stuff comes and the Holy Spirit
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  S1: speaks into our spirit. We're children of God now we're
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  S1: getting into meat and potatoes stuff here. You know what
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  S1: I mean?
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  S2: Yeah, I mean, and okay, so someone's listening and going,
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  S2: so I'm supposed to hear this voice that says, you're
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  S2: my kid. Like, what is that? What does that look like?
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  S1: It it is as simple as that. Now it's going
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  S1: to feel really obtuse and elusive for lost people, but
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  S1: I can I was kind of pressure testing this yesterday
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  S1: when we were talking about this on my own self.
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  S1: I have definitely when I listen to the Lord, I
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  S1: hear a couple of things from the Holy Spirit. I
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  S1: hear a lot of conviction of where I've got to change.
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  S1: I hear a lot of conviction. This morning I got
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  S1: up early and I. And I was reading Proverbs and
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  S1: I read about 30 of them. And I'm like, oh,
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  S1: for crying out loud. No joking. I'm like, you gotta
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  S1: be kidding me. Carl, you are a piece of work
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  S1: in the Holy Spirit said to me, yeah, and he did. Look,
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  S1: you're a piece of work. We're going to constantly change.
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  S1: You're constantly becoming what I'm turning you into. But you're
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  S1: my kid, and I'm absolutely convinced that there is a
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  S1: spiritual conversation just because the the word says it, the
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  S1: Holy Spirit will agree with your spirit that you are
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  S1: children of God.
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  S2: Romans 8161616.
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  S3: Yeah, I've seen that in my own life too. I
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  S3: had that, I don't know, a couple months ago where
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  S3: sometimes Satan tries to come at me. I mean, my
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  S3: whole thing was the illusion of salvation. And sometimes Satan
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  S3: will come at me saying, how do you know you're
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  S3: not still there? You know, and he throws things at
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  S3: me and where I'm not perfect because obviously life's not
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  S3: being about being perfect. But Satan would like to make
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  S3: you think it is. And I had just read that passage,
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  S3: I think, the night before. And so I was like, okay, God,
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  S3: say you say it that the spirit will will testify
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  S3: with my spirit that I am a child of God.
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  S3: I said, I said, just testify with me. I was like,
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  S3: shut Satan's voice up and just talk. And he did.
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  S3: And he said, you're my kid, I got you, I
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  S3: love you. And I said, okay, cool. I was like,
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  S3: I'll continue to grow with you, but I'm not gonna
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  S3: let that voice be the one talking.
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  S1: Isn't that great? Yeah. You know, we had 3 or
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  S1: 4 callers come in here and we lost them all,
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  S1: which is probably I'm taking this as from the Lord
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  S1: because I'm going to linger here for a moment. But
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  S1: we had somebody call in goes drug addiction, new life.
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  S1: Somebody said from pride began to die in humility came alive.
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  S1: And somebody said they got off cocaine. And there was
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  S1: now a love for Jesus Christ. And by the way,
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  S1: it's it's that real. So something passed away and something
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  S1: became new. This assurance of salvation thing. Do you do
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  S1: you guys remember the name Kay? Arthur?
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  S4: Yes. Yeah. Okay. Of course.
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  S1: Okay. Kay went on to be with the Lord, but
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  S1: Janine and I got close to her and her husband
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  S1: Jack for a season. It was so cool. So we're
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  S1: sitting on a dock over Lake Burton in Northern. Uh,
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  S1: it's a couple hours north of Atlanta, and we're. We
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  S1: were just talking the Lord man talking the Lord. And
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  S1: we were just going at it. And Kay came to
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  S1: the point where she said, there's someone dear in my
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  S1: life that has Prayed prayers. Been baptized. Went on and
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  S1: on about all the religious activity. She goes and he's
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  S1: not born again. I said, what's your greatest evidence of that?
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  S1: And she said, there's no hunger for the word of God.
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  S1: And she went through the scriptures and said, there is
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  S1: going to be. Doesn't mean that you are always in
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  S1: it perfectly. That's not what Kay Arthur was saying. But
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  S1: she said, my sheep hear my voice, and they follow me.
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  S1: And there is. There is something brand new in you
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  S1: that when we're when we're regenerated, our allegiances change, guys.
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  S1: And there's a hunger for the word. And you know
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  S1: what God's hit me with right now? There's some of
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  S1: you listening right now that you've been stuck in cultural
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  S1: Christianity for so long, you don't even know it. I
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  S1: know we're behind. I'll get caught up here. And I
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  S1: want you to know unequivocally that the gospel is not
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  S1: raising your hand to get some fire insurance from hell
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  S1: when no one's looking, by the way. That's the added
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  S1: little stickler there. It's not walking down an aisle, but
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  S1: never following Jesus Christ. The gospel is a gospel of repentance.
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  S1: That's what Jesus sent his disciples out to speak of repentance.
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  S1: Now this is a change of mind of your perspective
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  S1: of Jesus. He he becomes Lord, authority, ruler of every
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  S1: square inch of who you are and all that you have.
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  S1: One of the coolest things, the coolest discoveries I've had
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  S1: is Matthew 25, the parable of the talents. A lot
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  S1: of people preach that saying, oh, you got to move
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  S1: from a one talent person to a 2 or 5
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  S1: talent person because the two and five talent guys, they reinvest,
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  S1: they gave all representing all that they are, they they
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  S1: reinvested that. And the one talent person out of fear
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  S1: of God is what that parable is talking about. Buried it.
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  S1: And here's what's true. When you are brand new in Christ,
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  S1: you become a 2 or 5 talent person. Nothing is
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  S1: withheld from God. Is that perfection? Nope. Are there going
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  S1: to be battles along the way? Yep. But everything inside
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  S1: your spiritual DNA says the grace of God is so powerful. Time, talent, treasure.
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  S1: Everything I have is yours, God. It's all yours, God.
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  S1: And so I just want to ask you. If nothing
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  S1: passed away and nothing became new other than more religious activity.
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  S1: And if you've never heard the voice of the Holy
• 22:41
  S1: Spirit speaking into your spirit, you're my kid. Could it
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  S1: be that you've never come into faith with Jesus Christ
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  S1: and you are a cultural Christian? And right now, the
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  S1: Holy Spirit's revealing to you, that's that's me, that's me.
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  S1: And this is awesome. This isn't bad. This is this
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  S1: is great, isn't it, Ali?
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  S2: It is because the awareness of that means there's possibility
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  S2: for change.
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  S1: Like in now.
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  S2: That's that's the gift is that when he allows you
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  S2: to see it, he does something about it.
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  S1: So here's what I know. The wisest among us in
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  S1: this moment. Right now. Look in the mirror of your
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  S1: soul and go, whoa! My biggest problem in life is me.
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  S1: Because all have sinned and fall short of the glory
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  S1: of God. All we like sheep have gone astray, each
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  S1: to his own way. You can go to church and
• 23:49
  S1: still be going your own way. Trust me, I did
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  S1: it for years and many millions of people are doing
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  S1: it today. In this moment, I want you to cry
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  S1: out to God and go, I'm a sinner. I need
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  S1: a Savior. Because the Spirit of God is illuminating for
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  S1: you what life in Jesus is, and he wants to
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  S1: free you from you. First and foremost. And those are
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  S1: more than words. That's a cry of the soul. And
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  S1: right now, in this moment, repentance means turning from the
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  S1: broad path, turning onto the narrow path, and on that
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  S1: narrow path you will know that you've been born again
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  S1: because you've got open hands right now. Your heart is
• 24:42
  S1: so tender before God. Your time, your talent, your treasure,
• 24:46
  S1: your future, your hopes, your dreams. They're all at the
• 24:49
  S1: disposal of God. You're a 2 or 5 talent person,
• 24:52
  S1: and before today, you are a one talent person. Very
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  S1: religious possibly, but living with the scarcity mindset, you were bound,
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  S1: chained to earth with all of its systems. And today
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  S1: everything's changed. If that's you, just text the word new
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  S1: right now, right now, wherever you are. If God is
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  S1: transforming your soul in this moment and you know it,
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  S1: and it's never, ever happened like this right now, surrender
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  S1: all you are to Jesus. Get to the side of
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  S1: the road. Text the word new. We're going to help you.
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  S1: We're going to get a. With this link, you're going
• 25:29
  S1: to get a Bible sent. You're going to have an opportunity.
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  S1: Please take it to have someone in your area call you,
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  S1: encourage you. You're going to have a blog in there
• 25:37
  S1: that's going to show you how to find a church
• 25:40
  S1: that is going to help you grow and go in
• 25:43
  S1: your relationship with God. Just text the word new right now,
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  S1: wherever you are. Today is your day of salvation to 805, five, five, 78,
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  S1: 981 word new 800 555, 7898. God loves you so much.
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  S1: He changed where we were going here in this half
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  S1: hour for you. That's how much he loves you. Just
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  S1: text the word new when you get a chance to 805, five, five, 78, 98,
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  S1: we're going to help you in your first steps with Jesus.
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  S5: He's a sports fanatic with a stand for anything you
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  S5: can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. its
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  S5: curling crew on Moody Radio.
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  S1: Father, in Jesus name, I come to you and say,
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  S1: oh God, thank you for these new brothers and sisters
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  S1: who have just surrendered their lives to you. Oh God,
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  S1: thank you that you began this work. You're going to
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  S1: carry it on to completion. Thank you that you will protect.
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  S1: Thank you that you will guide. Thank you that you
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  S1: will comfort and put your arms around them right now.
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  S1: In Jesus name, Amen. Amen. Use this link we sent
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  S1: to you for sure. Use it for sure. Coming up
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  S1: here in a moment, I sat down with J. Warner.
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  S1: Wallace who? Baby, I gotta tell you, it is time
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  S1: for us to really get serious about the unstoppable gospel.
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  S1: And there's a reason that Jesus is changing everything. Hang on.
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  S5: Walking closer to Jesus every day. You're listening to Carl
• 27:17
  S5: and crew.
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  S1: This whole week we're talking the unstoppable gospel. And I
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  S1: had a crazy thought here just two days ago. And
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  S1: I thought, all right, let's look at world religions. How
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  S1: many have penetrated and cross cultural divides and reach people
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  S1: from multiple language groups? J Warner Wallace. It ain't even close.
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  S1: Christianity is. I mean, it ain't even close. Is one
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  S1: of the greatest evidences of the historicity and deity of Jesus.
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  S1: The way the message of the gospel has transcended time, culture, space, matter.
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  S1: Is that part of it?
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  S6: Absolutely. Look, we always say this, right? Because it's true
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  S6: that all the power is in the gospel. And when
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  S6: I say the power is in the gospel, I mean
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  S6: this idea that God would descend into his creation and
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  S6: take the form of a human to pay the price
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  S6: for our moral imperfection, so we don't have to pay
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  S6: it ourselves, because there's no way we could ever attain
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  S6: moral perfection. And if there's a God that's holy enough
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  S6: to create everything from nothing, he certainly has the power
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  S6: to eliminate his own moral imperfection. Yes. So we're dealing
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  S6: with a morally perfect God. The only way to be
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  S6: reconciled to that God is, is to take on the
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  S6: perfection of something, of somebody we couldn't be. Our perfection
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  S6: has to be somebody else's. But here's the difference, is
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  S6: that it turns out that that kind of God, with
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  S6: that kind of power could easily have just made it
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  S6: so that at, you know, at birth, every one of
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  S6: us understood the gospel innately. Or at our 10th birthday,
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  S6: we would have a dream and we would hear the gospel.
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  S6: That kind of God could do that, right? Instead, what
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  S6: does that God do? He descends into earth and has eyewitnesses,
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  S6: right the accounts and establish him in history.
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  S1: Yes.
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  S6: Why? Why would why would you take this evidential approach
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  S6: when clearly, if there is a God of this nature,
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  S6: he could bypass all of that. Well, because he wants
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  S6: us to have the level of certainty that comes with
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  S6: with the evidence that show me Jesus said it all
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  S6: the time. You don't have to believe what I'm telling you.
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  S6: You can believe on the eyewitnesses. You could believe on
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  S6: John the Baptist direct evidence, or you could believe on
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  S6: the miracles I've worked in front of you. Indirect evidence.
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  S6: So I've given you forms of evidence that you could
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  S6: use to determine that I am who I say I am. Now,
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  S6: why does God take that approach? I think he understands
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  S6: our fallen nature. Yes. And it is our fallen nature
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  S6: that requires that causes us to be so skeptical to
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  S6: begin with. There is no other theistic worldview that does
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  S6: this the way that Christianity does. In other words, if
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  S6: I was a Buddhist, how would I know that the
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  S6: teaching of Buddhism is true? I could say I like it.
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  S6: It makes sense. It works for me. But there's nothing
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  S6: about Buddhism that makes a claim about history. We could test. Yeah.
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  S6: It's just a series of proverbial statements. Now, Christianity is
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  S6: very different. It makes a claim not only that Jesus
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  S6: said some pretty cool things or some important things that
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  S6: would help us to flourish as humans. It's that he
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  S6: also did something in the course of human history that
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  S6: we could test. Evidentially.
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  S1: Yes.
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  S6: That's a very different kind of theistic claim. This difference
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  S6: is important because it's going to give me confidence. Look,
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  S6: I tell a story in this cold case, Christianity, where
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  S6: there was a guy who was got in a gunfight
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  S6: and because he knew he was wearing his bulletproof vest
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  S6: and he had seen that vest stop bullets in the range,
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  S6: he had the calm to just trust his vest. He
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  S6: knew he was going to take the first couple of rounds,
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  S6: but he had a vest and he knew Evidentially based
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  S6: on what he saw on the range, that it could
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  S6: stop bullets. And he stood calmly in the gunfight because
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  S6: he had good reason to trust the vest. I think
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  S6: God wants us to have the same kind of good reasons.
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  S1: Yeah. For sure. J Warner Wallace, my guest right now,
• 30:56
  S1: he is a Dateline featured cold case homicide detective for years,
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  S1: popular national speaker, podcast host, bestselling author. And he's got
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  S1: some of the best goods on apologetics you can imagine.
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  S1: So let's just break it down. It seems to me
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  S1: if you're looking for anecdotal evidence of a Messiah That
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  S1: for people in Iran right now to fully and joyfully
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  S1: share what Jesus has done in in them at risk
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  S1: of losing life and limb. And many are. And in
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  S1: Afghanistan and in India, under the new regime there. It
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  S1: is not in vogue to be a Christian. Very dangerous.
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  S1: There are so many evidences, but J. Warner, I don't
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  S1: want to move past that. That is huge, isn't it
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  S1: right there?
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  S6: Well it is here's why I say that. Look, it's
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  S6: not as though these other systems haven't already embraced Jesus
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  S6: in one form or another. This is a crazy impact
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  S6: of Jesus on culture, so much so that no one
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  S6: is impacted literature, art, music, education, world religions, science more
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  S6: than Jesus and his followers. Here's what I mean. If
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  S6: you're a Buddhist, the teachers of Buddhism today will acknowledge
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  S6: Jesus as a Buddha vista, as somebody who is in
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  S6: within their system certainly makes sense within their system. Often
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  S6: they will quote the statements of Jesus, these leaders. They
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  S6: will quote the life of Jesus as it's recorded in
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  S6: the Gospels. If you're a Baha'i, you've already included Jesus
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  S6: as one of the manifestations of God. If you're a Muslim,
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  S6: he's in the Quran. Jesus penetrates other world religions in
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  S6: a way that he does not allow. So there's no Buddha,
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  S6: obviously pre-existed Jesus on earth, yet Jesus makes no room
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  S6: for Buddha. Within Christianity, Buddhism makes room for Jesus within Buddhism,
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  S6: but Jesus makes no room in the other direction. So
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  S6: what we would say is you probably already have. You
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  S6: could assemble the rough outline of Jesus's life just from
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  S6: the teachers and scriptures of Baha'i and Islam and Hinduism
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  S6: and Buddhism. Because these teachers and systems acknowledge Jesus in
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  S6: a way that Jesus does not do in return. So
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  S6: there's a sense in which you ought to know something
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  S6: about Jesus, even if you're in a culture that is not,
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  S6: you know, culturally Christian. And that speaks to me about
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  S6: the power of the gospel, the power of Jesus. No
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  S6: single human in the history of humans has had this
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  S6: kind of impact, not just on the West, globally, in
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  S6: the history of humans. You know, the first century was
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  S6: not the first century of human history. There were centuries
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  S6: before the first century. We are calling this the common era.
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  S6: We call that the first century, because it turns out
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  S6: something amazing happened, and it's grounded in the birth, life, ministry, death,
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  S6: resurrection of Jesus.
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  S1: Yeah, they've even changed those letters in iterations because they
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  S1: want to veer clear of before Christ. And yeah, but.
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  S6: What makes this the common era in which we all
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  S6: decide commonly to embrace the same dating system?
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  S1: Jesus is the hinge point.
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  S6: First century.
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  S1: It's Jesus. I mean, he's the endpoint. Okay, J Warner,
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  S1: you've given us phenomenal stuff over the years. Amazing stuff.
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  S1: We're going to give you a link to one of
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  S1: the best sites going for apologetics. I mean, whether it's
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  S1: the 500 people that Paul referred to that were testimony
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  S1: to the resurrection of Jesus, and how that couldn't have
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  S1: been without them having that in them and so many
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  S1: other things. J. Warner What is the one singular? I
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  S1: don't know how you're going to do this. What's the
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  S1: single best evidence that demands someone to grapple with the
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  S1: deity and the salvific nature of Jesus Christ?
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  S6: I'm going to give you something weird. Okay? Because to me,
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  S6: I'm a cumulative case guy. All my cold cases are
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  S6: built cumulatively on, you know, a death by a thousand
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  S6: paper cuts. So I think the case for Christianity is
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  S6: very similar. It's death by a thousand paper cuts. But
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  S6: there's one weird piece of evidence that I would like
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  S6: you to consider, and it's something no one ever talks about. Okay.
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  S6: It turns out all secular studies show that if you
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  S6: will simply embrace this one attitude, you will flourish at
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  S6: the highest levels. It's a weird attribute that seems hidden,
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  S6: but if you will simply embrace it, you will make
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  S6: more money, have better physical health, mental health, deeper relationships.
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  S6: Every way we measure human better achievements, better leadership, be
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  S6: a better person to be led. All those things.
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  S1: I'm dying to know. I would say it's humility.
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  S6: Yes, it is humility. And it's the secular studies show this.
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  S6: But think about it. There's only one worldview that develops humility.
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  S6: All doing worldviews just develop pride because you're comparing yourself
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  S6: to somebody else and saying, I'm doing more. Secularism is
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  S6: a doing worldview. Do do, do do get the degree.
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  S6: Do do do do, get the job, get the girl,
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  S6: get the promotion, whatever it is you got to do
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  S6: to get it. This is also true, though, of every
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  S6: other theistic worldview. You're right to do the Ten Commandments.
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  S6: Got to do the the noble truths. You got it.
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  S6: Whatever it is, every system is built on. If you
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  S6: do these things, you get the highest reward that our
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  S6: God is offering in order to develop a system that
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  S6: would actually give you incentivize humility. The one thing that
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  S6: causes humans to flourish at the highest level. You'd have
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  S6: to design a worldview that is not a doing worldview.
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  S6: It's a done worldview. There's only one of those. It's
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  S6: called Christianity, where nothing you do can actually give you
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  S6: the highest reward. It's what's been done for you. Why,
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  S6: says Paul, so that nobody can boast. So I can
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  S6: take all of the pride out. And when you develop
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  S6: this kind of humility, you flourish. Now, it could be
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  S6: an accident. It could be coincidental that the one thing
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  S6: that causes humans to flourish, humility is best and only
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  S6: represented by the one done worldview. Christianity. Jesus did it.
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  S6: I don't have to do it. That could be a coincidence.
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  S6: Or it could just be that this is an evidence
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  S6: that this is worldview of your designer. Who knows how
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  S6: you've been designed and what's best for you. I actually
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  S6: think humility is one of those weird, hidden kind of
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  S6: evidences for the truth of Christianity.
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  S1: J. Warner That is one of the greatest evidences so
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  S1: clearly articulated. That is mind boggling right there. Have you
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  S1: utilized that with people before?
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  S6: Well, we do a lot with cops because I spend
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  S6: a lot of time in the summer doing marriage resiliency
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  S6: for police officers who have been involved in critical incidents,
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  S6: and now they're injured. They're not quite sure who they are.
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  S6: They can't work anymore. It's like the whole life feels
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  S6: like it's over. And a lot of it is because
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  S6: we put our pride and our achievements in our job.
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  S6: And it turns out that you can give people tools
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  S6: for their marriage. But until they know the tool maker,
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  S6: it's kind of a waste of time. I can give
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  S6: you guidance, but until you know the guide, it's kind
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  S6: of a waste of time. Totally. So what I have
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  S6: to do is help young people who are younger than me,
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  S6: who will just kind of bend their knee in humility
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  S6: and say, yeah, there is a God and I'm not him.
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  S6: That's the first step toward the Christian worldview. And of course,
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  S6: it's the one thing that Christianity offers that no other
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  S6: worldview can really offer. Humility.
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  S1: Oh my goodness. J. Warner. Wallace. Everybody. Um, okay. Somebody says,
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  S1: all right, I'm going to text in a key word
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  S1: and I'll give it to you in a moment. If
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  S1: you could guide people through your website, what do you
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  S1: want them to see? What do you want them to learn?
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  S1: What do you want them to do?
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  S6: Well, here's the thing. Most of us, when we ask ourselves,
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  S6: why are we a Christian? And I've asked that question
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  S6: across the country for years, and this is something I
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  S6: wrote about in forensic faith. But I think it's important
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  S6: because people will typically say the number one response is,
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  S6: I was raised this way. That's why this is true
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  S6: for everyone. Globally, you typically hold the worldview, most likely
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  S6: hold the worldview that your parents held before you. That's
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  S6: why some systems, like Islam, grow on the basis of
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  S6: birth rate. Because the higher the birth rate, the more
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  S6: likely you are to have people who will agree with
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  S6: their parents. Now, the other view that people will say, well,
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  S6: I'm a Christian, because I had an experience that demonstrated
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  S6: for me that Christianity was true. I totally get it.
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  S6: Those are two good reasons to be a Christian, but
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  S6: they aren't sufficient because those are also the two reasons
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  S6: that my LDS family will tell me that they're LDS.
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  S1: In the bosom.
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  S6: Yeah, right. They've had an experience that demonstrated that Joseph
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  S6: Smith is a prophet of God, and the Book of
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  S6: Mormon is true, and they were raised this way. Okay.
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  S6: The fact those two things can be true for you,
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  S6: but that doesn't mean that the system you're in is true.
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  S6: We have to ask ourselves, was that experience actually grounded
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  S6: in something evidential? Do I have good reason to believe
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  S6: that this is the God of the universe that caused
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  S6: that experience for me? That's why holding an evidential view.
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  S6: It's not just that it will lead you to the truth.
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  S6: It can also protect you from error. Because when I
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  S6: first tested the Book of Mormon, because my family, they're
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  S6: all atheists, but my stepmother and six kids over there
• 39:38
  S6: are LDS. I wanted to know, is that true? I
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  S6: didn't know what was true. I was 35, but I
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  S6: did have an investigative template, so I simply tested the
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  S6: Gospels and I tested the Book of Mormon. I always
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  S6: tell people I became a Christian the same day I
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  S6: became a non-Mormon. That's because I knew that one system
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  S6: was verified by the evidence. The other system was falsified
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  S6: by the evidence. And so I needed to know which
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  S6: is true. It turns out this kind of an approach
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  S6: can not only lead you to truth, it can protect
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  S6: you from error. And that's why it's important for us
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  S6: to have a more forensic view of this. And all
• 40:08
  S6: the word forensic means is that you can make the
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  S6: case publicly that it comes from a Latin word, forensics,
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  S6: which just says basically to make public, to make known publicly.
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  S6: And if you want to share your faith, how about
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  S6: we take it a uniquely Christian way of sharing it?
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  S6: Because every worldview says that I had an experience and
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  S6: I was raised this way. You could do better than that.
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  S6: You could actually have the experience and have been raised
• 40:31
  S6: that way, but also know that it's evidentially true. Let's
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  S6: try adding that to the equation.
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  S1: And you know, I believe practically you talk about Holy
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  S1: Spirit filling and we're called to be filled with the spirit.
• 40:43
  S1: Nothing fills us with the spirit more than the assimilation
• 40:48
  S1: of bedrock truth. Whenever I have a truth internalized, I
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  S1: overflow simultaneously with that. I'm not wrong on that one,
• 40:57
  S1: am I? J. Warner.
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  S6: Well, no, because we're called to worship God with all
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  S6: of our mind as part of the way we worship.
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  S6: You can worship by singing worship. You can worship through
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  S6: your service. You can worship by the devotion of your life.
• 41:07
  S6: The question is, you can also worship by saying, hey,
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  S6: I can make a case for this. Look, there are
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  S6: people right now who can make a case for why
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  S6: their team is going to do well in the NFL
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  S6: this year. They've seen a couple of preseason games. They
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  S6: know what the draft is. They can tell you all
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  S6: the minutiae related to the draft and related to the
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  S6: preseason games, but they can't do the same thing when
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  S6: it comes to the scriptures. Well, you kind of know
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  S6: what their God is, and it's whatever it is you're
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  S6: most geeked out about. That's where your gods lie now.
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  S6: You're where you're spending your thought life, wherever you're spending
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  S6: your discretionary income, whatever it is. I can't question because
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  S6: if I do, you'll get upset. Whatever it is that
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  S6: you can't wait to do that. These are the things
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  S6: that give us indicators of what we worship. And but
• 41:46
  S6: make no mistake about it, you will put your identity
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  S6: in whatever it is you're devoted to. If you spend
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  S6: a lot of time practicing your golf swing, spending money
• 41:54
  S6: on clubs, all of that stuff, you're going to a party.
• 41:57
  S6: You say, what? What do you do? Oh, I golf. Oh, okay.
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  S6: You see what's happening? You put your identity in the
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  S6: things you worship. Yeah. And it turns out we need
• 42:05
  S6: to put our identity in Christ. You know, Paul says this.
• 42:08
  S6: It doesn't call Christians Christians. He calls Christians those who
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  S6: are in Christ. Yeah. So it turns out we probably
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  S6: ought to think about that a little more seriously and
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  S6: put our identity where it belongs.
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  S1: That will rattle around in your mind. And it will
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  S1: now I. This is what I'm convinced of. I think
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  S1: you will begin to redirect what you geek out about.
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  S1: And I truly believe this. I think out of the
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  S1: void of information, we are more concerned about how the
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  S3: It's not that I've got to fill in these check boxes,
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  S3: so he's okay with me, but it's that I get
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  S3: to stand close to him so that I can experience
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  S3: the life that he has for me.
• 43:20
  S5: You're listening to cast and Crew.
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  S1: I want you to think about this right now. What
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  S1: is it that passed away in what became new? My goodness.
• 43:29
  S1: It's and it's probably hard to pin it down to
• 43:33
  S1: 1 or 2 things, right?
• 43:34
  S2: Well, if it's true that everything about us becomes new.
• 43:38
  S4: But there's always something that floats to the top. It's like, boom,
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  S4: that's it.
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  S1: That's.
• 43:42
  S4: It, that's it.
• 43:43
  S1: What was it for you? Super day.
• 43:44
  S4: Oh, revenge. I revenge died for me.
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  S1: Yeah. That is.
• 43:49
  S4: Okay. I mean, that's one of the most powerful things
• 43:51
  S4: going to the top for me. Yeah. Revenge died. Yeah,
• 43:56
  S4: I was snarky, I was. Yeah. Don't cross me.
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  S1: Don't cross.
• 44:01
  S4: Super di. Do not cross me. Yeah.
• 44:06
  S1: What became new? What became new?
• 44:08
  S4: I mean.
• 44:09
  S1: Really?
• 44:10
  S4: Yeah. Love for people. Seeing them through God's eyes. You
• 44:14
  S4: think they're loved?
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  S1: You didn't come born that way.
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  S4: No, no, no, I did not.
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  S1: I became born again. That way.
• 44:22
  S4: I became born again. Yeah. I came born with revenge.
• 44:25
  S4: But then I became born again. God's love. And I
• 44:30
  S4: want people to know that and feel it and live it.
• 44:37
  S1: You're a good kid.
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  S4: Trying. I'm perfectly imperfect, but I'm trying.
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  S1: Yeah. My buddy calls him beautiful mess.
• 44:45
  S4: Yeah.
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  S1: He says every. Everyone on this side of glory that's
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  S1: born again is a beautiful mess.
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  S4: That's true.
• 44:51
  S1: I love that. And this is a wise dude, man.
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  S1: He's pastored a ton of people. When he said that,
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  S1: I go, I'm, I'm, I'm right there. This is why
• 44:59
  S1: you got to look at the progression of the Apostle Paul.
• 45:02
  S1: Quick nanosecond here. Um, when he was born again, he
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  S1: called himself the chief of the sinners as compared to
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  S1: the apostles. Then he called him. Let's see, what's the progression? Yeah. Chief.
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  S1: Chief of sinners with regard, not chief of sinners. I'm.
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  S1: I'm the least of all the apostles. Then he goes,
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  S1: I'm the least of all saints. Then at the end
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  S1: of his life, he goes, I'm the chief of all sinners,
• 45:30
  S1: which which reveals what?
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  S3: The humility he's recognizing that he's not perfect. And he's
• 45:37
  S3: saying like, yeah, look at me. If I'm the chief
• 45:40
  S3: of sinners and what God does in me, I think
• 45:43
  S3: it just gives us hope for like, okay, we're all
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  S3: in the same boat here together. There's not one that
• 45:48
  S3: is better than another. We don't we shouldn't be walking
• 45:51
  S3: around with pride saying, oh, look how great I am
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  S3: and look at all the good things I'm doing. If
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  S3: Paul says he's the chief of sinners, what do I
• 45:58
  S3: have to say about what I've done with my life.
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  S4: Yeah. What what.
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  S1: What do.
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  S4: We do?
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  S1: Especially Ali. We're in the world.
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  S4: You know.
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  S2: Hey, I'll take it.
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  S1: Okay. Coming up here, I. I just can't stand what
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  S1: is not happening in Iran. I can't stand it that
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  S1: the ayatollahs are there. And the the oppressive government has
• 46:24
  S1: just got its foot on the neck of the gospel
• 46:26
  S1: and freedom for everyone. Uh, but let's get an update
• 46:30
  S1: from Lana Silk. Hang on.
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  S5: Tune in whenever you like. Check out the Cast and
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  S1: Lana Silk. I'm. It drives me absolutely crazy. I want
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  S1: so badly for this brutal regime to be toppled in Iran.
• 46:47
  S1: And if I got passion for that, sister, you've got
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  S1: it squared. It's heartbreaking, isn't it?
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  S7: It is heartbreaking. And I am so blessed by the
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  S7: fact that you care so much about it. Carl, it
• 46:59
  S7: really is encouraging for us to hear that.
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  S1: It breaks my heart because how many people? 90 million.
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  S1: How many people in Iran? I forget the number.
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  S7: Yeah, about 90. There are no accurate numbers. 88 to 93.
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  S7: Anything to that?
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  S1: Okay. And 90% of those want out from under this
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  S1: brutal regime. I mean, if they aren't somehow getting money
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  S1: from the regime via directly or indirectly Republican Guard or
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  S1: family that works with that regime, somehow they want out
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  S1: from under it. And it just it feels like we've
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  S1: got brothers and sisters, millions that are going to toil
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  S1: underneath this thing. And yet they are not they they
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  S1: have to have moments of discouragement, but they're not dissuaded
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  S1: from the gospel, are they, Lana.
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  S7: Exactly right. It is. It is discouraging. It is very hard.
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  S7: It's also practically difficult because we're talking about people who
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  S7: are struggling to make ends meet, you know, get food
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  S7: on the table, pay rent. So there's a day to
• 48:00
  S7: day struggle. But their courage and their faith is wonderfully inspiring.
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  S7: And they are still visiting people, sharing the gospel, seeing
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  S7: people saved. It's wonderful.
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  S2: Lana Silk, our guest this morning, president and chief executive
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  S2: officer with the ministry, called Transform Iran six months, nearly
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  S2: six months now into this war. Give us some of
• 48:22
  S2: the latest updates from your perspective.
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  S7: We've been through cycles, Ali. You know, people having audacity
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  S7: and courage to stand up and protest and fight through
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  S7: to a submission and an under the pressure of it all.
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  S7: Last week I was sent videos of people who are
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  S7: going through hunger strikes now in prisons. Literally watch them.
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  S7: Video of a man having his lips sewn together in
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  S7: protest over what the government is doing to his people.
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  S7: These are not believers. These are regular people who are
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  S7: being squashed by the government, silenced by the government. Just
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  S7: a week or so ago, a 22 year old boy
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  S7: was executed because he nursed people after the protest, not
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  S7: because he protested, but because he helped those who had
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  S7: been injured in the protests. He was a medical student
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  S7: and he was executed. So, you know, this is the
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  S7: kind of thing that the people in Iran are dealing with,
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  S7: and we go through waves of courage in fighting against it,
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  S7: and then the government slams them down again.
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  S1: So there's economic pressure being put on them. Here's here's
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  S1: my concern. I'm not sure that the regime, they're always
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  S1: going to have enough food on the table. This is
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  S1: going to trickle down to the people. So what do
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  S1: you do as a team outside Iran to help encourage
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  S1: and equip those inside Iran, brothers and sisters in Christ?
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  S1: And by the way, have you got a story of
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  S1: how the gospel still marching on since the last time
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  S1: we spoke with you?
• 49:50
  S7: I do have a story for you, Carl. Would you
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  S7: like me to share it?
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  S1: Oh, yeah. Let's go.
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  S7: So we'll call this man Hassan. He is a fairly
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  S7: young believer, but growing in his faith. And we've been
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  S7: training him. So one of the things we do you
• 50:04
  S7: were asking the question is train people, give them resources,
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  S7: give them mentoring and pastoring so that they can be
• 50:10
  S7: effective witnesses for Christ. And Hassan is on the program,
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  S7: and he was making arrangements for a few pastors from
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  S7: his region to come and visit with him and minister
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  S7: to him. And at the same time, he had a
• 50:23
  S7: couple family birthdays, his son and his uncle. And he
• 50:25
  S7: was trying to separate these two events just for everyone's safety.
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  S7: And for whatever reason, we believe God. It was proving impossible.
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  S7: And it so happened in the end that the birthday
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  S7: party with the whole extended family end up being on
• 50:38
  S7: the same day that people were visiting with him from
• 50:41
  S7: the church. And as the as the pastors gathered in
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  S7: his big extended family birthday gathering, one of them decided
• 50:49
  S7: to begin to worship. So he started worshiping and leading
• 50:53
  S7: the whole gathering in worship. And when I was sharing
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  S7: the story, he said the atmosphere in the house completely changed.
• 50:59
  S7: They could just feel God's presence in the room. And
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  S7: one by one, members of his family, his uncle, his aunt,
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  S7: his mother, people in his family began committing their lives
• 51:08
  S7: to follow Jesus. And what was a birthday celebration ended
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  S7: up being a birthday celebration. Drew, you were just talking
• 51:15
  S7: about being born again. A true birthday celebration.
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  S2: Wow. Lana, you hear a story like that and it's
• 51:23
  S2: there's a glimmer of hope. And, you know, I can
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  S2: imagine for people who are living under this, it feels hopeless.
• 51:30
  S2: You said even non-believers who have don't have a Christian worldview,
• 51:35
  S2: but who see what's happening, the oppressing of people and go,
• 51:37
  S2: this cannot continue. What? How do we pray? You know,
• 51:42
  S2: you hear news updates and it's hard to even know
• 51:45
  S2: based on what mainstream media is telling us. What do
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  S2: we even pray for? We pray for peace. But is
• 51:51
  S2: that What is that the objective?
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  S8: Yeah. Yeah.
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  S7: That's an excellent question, Ali. I mean, we do want
• 51:56
  S7: to pray according to God's purposes. And we can see
• 51:59
  S7: there's so much biblical precedence for when God used truly
• 52:02
  S7: tragic circumstances to wake people up to the truth of,
• 52:06
  S7: you know, who he was. And I believe God is
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  S7: doing that in Iran. If Iran was living in full comfort,
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  S7: we may not be seeing the kind of harvest that
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  S7: we're seeing today. So we pray that God, God's kingdom,
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  S7: comes whatever way that needs to happen, we are for it.
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  S7: Then God, we do pray for peace, but we pray
• 52:23
  S7: for salvation over peace. We pray for spiritual freedom over
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  S7: earthly freedom. We pray for the Iranian leaders to have
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  S7: an awakening, for God, to visit with them in their dreams,
• 52:34
  S7: to appear to them in visions, and to give them
• 52:38
  S7: Damascus Road experiences and have them turn around and repent
• 52:41
  S7: and make right where they have caused so much pain
• 52:43
  S7: and suffering. And keep praying for courage for the church
• 52:46
  S7: as well, that they would continue to be a light
• 52:49
  S7: in this darkness.
• 52:50
  S1: Yeah. You know what? You bring up a good point, Lana,
• 52:53
  S1: because I look at the Republican Guard and what they're
• 52:56
  S1: doing to people, but there's among the Republican Guard. We
• 53:00
  S1: got to get our mind around this one. There are genuine,
• 53:03
  S1: God fearing people that do not like what they're doing,
• 53:08
  S1: but haven't had a fair shot at the gospel yet.
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  S1: We have to have a posture of compassion to even
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  S1: those that are the enemy of the cross of Christ
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  S1: in ways that are just disgusting and heartbreaking. Are we
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  S1: getting stories of miraculous visions where guys that are so
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  S1: far from God, some of these fighters are just dropping
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  S1: to their knees. We hear that from time to time.
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  S9: Yeah, we have in the past, not recently.
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  S7: I believe God is doing some really deep work in
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  S7: the hearts in the GC. Those testimonies haven't reached me
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  S7: in recent weeks, but we do pray for that. And
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  S7: I believe God is doing that. And God will continue
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  S7: to do that as he as the light gets brighter
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  S7: in Iran, which it is.
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  S1: You know, something that's hitting me here, Ali. The power
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  S1: of worship. I'm going back to that birthday party. Yeah.
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  S1: I mean, here's a guy. He probably knew the potential
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  S1: cost because the potential cost is they run out and
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  S1: they go find a Republican Guard and go, hey, we
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  S1: got a guy in here worshiping God through Jesus Christ, right?
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  S1: I mean, that's the real risk. But God worked through this.
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  S1: You find worship evangelism even in the West. But when
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  S1: you see it in a context like that, who you
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  S1: can't even get. There's no place to put that, is there, Lana?
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  S7: No. Exactly. And that's where the church in Iran is
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  S7: such an example to us in the way they lean
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  S7: into God's presence, God's leadership, God being enough, God sustaining them. Uh,
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  S7: you know, that's, that's how we should all be living.
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  S7: But that doesn't really get tested unless we're in really
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  S7: difficult circumstances. And it is wonderful to be reminded of
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  S7: the power of just putting God's name above all other
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  S7: names in that space and allowing him to do what
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  S7: only he can do.
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  S2: Powerful reminder. Lana Silk, president and Chief executive Officer of
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  S2: Transform Iran. Text transform to 805 557898. Just one word
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  S2: transform 805, five, five, 78, 98.
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  S1: And father, we just bow our heart before the King
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  S1: of kings and say, O God, comfort our brothers and
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  S1: sisters and keep that gospel going. God do miracles, signs
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  S1: and wonders, we pray.
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  S5: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 55:26
  S1: It's Carl and crew. This whole week, the Unstoppable gospel.
• 55:29
  S1: And yesterday we were talking. The boy very practically. Have
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  S1: you been baptized? But you were not born again in
• 55:37
  S1: the past. And then you were born again. The amount
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  S1: of responses were awesome. And so we're kind of taking
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  S1: the other end of the continuum here today. And we're
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  S1: looking at this, the gospel changes everything aspect of the
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  S1: unstoppable gospel, and this is what we find. Second Corinthians
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  S1: chapter five, verse 17. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ,
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  S1: he's a new creation. The old has passed away. Behold,
• 56:09
  S1: the new has come. Wow. That's like a promise, a reality,
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  S1: a living hope. Um. Put a stake in the ground.
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  S1: Get your feet on the rock. Fill your life with joy.
• 56:25
  S1: Kind of a promise, isn't it, Ali?
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  S2: Well, the idea that we can be a new creation.
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  S2: I mean, think about that just as a promise. Yeah.
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  S2: The first part of that, then anyone, if anyone is
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  S2: in Christ. So it's everybody's eligible. It's not like you
• 56:40
  S2: have to clear certain hurdles when you are in Christ.
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  S2: You are a new creation. This is your new identity
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  S2: that the old has passed away. Behold, the new has
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  S2: come before you've done a single thing that's true of
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  S2: you spiritually.
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  S1: Boom. So here's a quick question. What passed away? What
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  S1: died and what became new? What came alive? Just we're
• 57:03
  S1: just asking for you to call in and just answer
• 57:05
  S1: that question. What passed away in what became new? Would
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  S1: you give us a call right now? Let's light em up. Boom. Crew,
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  S1: this is your show. 805. 5578, 98. What? Passed away
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  S1: in what became new. 805. Five. 578. 98.
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  S5: This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.
• 57:30
  S1: It's, uh, Carl and crew. Yep. Asking you what passed
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  S1: away and what became new comes right out of second
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  S1: Corinthians 517. What a cool promise. Assurance in Ali. Spiked it. Man,
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  S1: we're new create.
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  S2: Yes. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a
• 57:47
  S2: new creation. The old has passed away. Behold, the new
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  S2: has come.
• 57:52
  S1: Okay, let's get your stories. Thanks for holding on, guys. Crystal.
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  S1: First time caller. Murfreesboro, Tennessee. What do you say, sister?
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  S10: Yeah. So what died in me was everything that I
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  S10: learned from my family. The sinful nature and what came
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  S10: alive in me was all the promises from the Word
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  S10: of God.
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  S1: That's awesome.
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  S2: Spot on.
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  S1: That's like.
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  S2: Crystal.
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  S1: Crystal. That's awesome. So everything that my family taught me
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  S1: began to die. And everything the Word of God taught
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  S1: me began to live.
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  S3: Amen.
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  S1: Okay, that's that's awesome.
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  S2: That's a whole sermon in 60s Crystal. First time, first
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  S2: time caller. That was pretty amazing.
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  S1: How did you do that so quickly? Crystal? How'd you
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  S1: button that up?
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  S10: Oh, it wasn't quickly. It's been a long time coming, but.
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  S1: See, that's even better.
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  S3: Yep, that's a good answer.
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  S1: Long time. When I.
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  S2: Shared concisely.
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  S1: Yeah, it was shared concisely, but it's been a long. Yeah.
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  S1: That's beautiful. Okay. Who do we have here? Ali.
• 58:52
  S2: We have Barbara. First time caller from Wauchula, Florida. I
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  S2: hope I got that right, Barbara, tell us first time
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  S2: caller what passed away and what became new when you
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  S2: were new in Christ passed away.
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  S11: And love came into my heart, the love of God. And, uh,
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  S11: you know, when you, you, you look back at yourself
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  S11: and you see the sin that you used to do,
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  S11: and then you think, oh my gosh, how I've changed
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  S11: because you just, you want to help everybody and tell
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  S11: everybody about the love of Christ.
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  S1: Yeah. And what you just nailed there, Barbara, thank you
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  S1: so much, sister, is you go, oh my goodness. And
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  S1: here's why. Because you know, good and well I didn't
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  S1: do that. That's why you say, oh my goodness. You're
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  S1: astonished at what God has done, which is so cool.
• 59:49
  S1: This is just spot on. I, I do have to
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  S1: say something here. We get a lot of people who have,
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  S1: they get rattled with regard to assurance of salvation. And
• 1:00:04
  S1: yesterday we were talking about this passage in Romans. It's 813.
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  S1: Is that right? Yeah. 816, 816. I'm getting all messed
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  S1: up here. Um. 816 turn there quickly so that I'm
• 1:00:18
  S1: not just paraphrasing it, but basically it's the Spirit of
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  S1: God agrees or confirms with our spirit that we are
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  S1: children of God. You got the exact wording.
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  S2: You've got it. The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit
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  S2: that we are God's children. That's the NIV version.
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  S1: Yeah. So here's one of the great evidences that, you know,
• 1:00:38
  S1: and I'm going to I'm going to shoot it to you.
• 1:00:40
  S1: Straight boom crew. I'm gonna pour out my heart. There
• 1:00:44
  S1: is the the reality of the supernatural power of the
• 1:00:49
  S1: Holy Spirit is that he regenerates us. He adopts us.
• 1:00:56
  S1: Ephesians one. He convicts us, he comforts us, and he
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  S1: speaks into our spirit. So the Holy Spirit speaks into
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  S1: our spirit. Capital S little s saying, you're my kid, Jonathan.
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  S1: You were just hearing this earlier today, man. You had
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  S1: that happen a couple of weeks ago, didn't you?
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  S3: I used that verse. I, I was getting hit by
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  S3: Satan and saying, nah, you know, you had an illusion
• 1:01:21
  S3: way back when do you think you still got that?
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  S3: Now your life ain't perfect. And and I was brutal.
• 1:01:27
  S3: Oh yeah. He's horrible. I don't like that guy. Uh,
• 1:01:30
  S3: and and so I talked with God instead of sitting
• 1:01:33
  S3: in it and freaking out. And I said, God, because
• 1:01:35
  S3: I just read this verse. I said, God, you say
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  S3: that your spirit testifies with mine that I am a
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  S3: child of God. And I said, so I want to
• 1:01:41
  S3: hear your voice. And I said, tell me one way
• 1:01:44
  S3: or the other. And his spirit testified with my spirit.
• 1:01:47
  S3: And I felt it. Not an audible voice, but it
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  S3: might as well have been him saying, hey, you're my kid,
• 1:01:53
  S3: I got you.
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  S1: Okay, that's an evidence. And then you look in second
• 1:01:58
  S1: Corinthians 517 and we could go all over the scripture.
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  S1: Therefore you're a new creation. Here's the evidence. Old has
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  S1: passed away. Behold, new has come. See, in Churchianity and
• 1:02:09
  S1: this deluded gospel message that we have across the West,
• 1:02:13
  S1: and it is diluted, friend, you can slip a hand
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  S1: in the air when no one's looking. You can walk
• 1:02:19
  S1: down an aisle and never follow Christ. And what changes
• 1:02:24
  S1: is okay, I'm a go to more small groups. I,
• 1:02:31
  S1: you know, whatever it is at the surface level, here's
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  S1: what you need to know. There is assurance of knowing
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  S1: that you know that you are God's kid. I was
• 1:02:42
  S1: sitting on a dock with Kay Arthur and her husband. Jack,
• 1:02:45
  S1: and me and my bride were talking with them, and
• 1:02:47
  S1: we were having this. Kay Arthur was one of what
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  S1: did she have precepts. Right. Yeah. Precept ministries. And she
• 1:02:53
  S1: would go through the Word of God. And she was
• 1:02:56
  S1: a phenomenal teacher. And we're sitting there talking with them
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  S1: on this dock two hours north of Atlanta, Lake Burton.
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  S1: And she's saying, you know, we're talking about evidence of
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  S1: being born again. She said there is undeniable evidence everywhere.
• 1:03:11
  S1: And she began to just go through the scriptures, as
• 1:03:14
  S1: only Kay Arthur could, that when you are created new
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  S1: in Christ Jesus, there is going to be a hunger,
• 1:03:22
  S1: not that it won't fade or that you're in a
• 1:03:25
  S1: spiritual battle. All those things are real. We're not talking perfection.
• 1:03:28
  S1: We're talking regeneration. When a soul is regenerated, you. Absolutely. You.
• 1:03:36
  S1: absolutely will have new allegiances, new appetites, new hungers. Those
• 1:03:45
  S1: things are going to be real. There's going to be
• 1:03:48
  S1: old things that die. There's going to be new things
• 1:03:52
  S1: that come. My sheep hear my voice and they follow me.
• 1:03:57
  S1: The Spirit of God is confirming in my spirit that
• 1:04:01
  S1: I'm a child of God and friend. Here's the reality.
• 1:04:04
  S1: Cultural Christianity is such an epidemic. 2000 years ago, Jesus said,
• 1:04:11
  S1: many are going to say, Lord, Lord, and he's going
• 1:04:13
  S1: to say, I never knew you. And they're going to say,
• 1:04:15
  S1: I was religiously busy and did mighty works. I cast
• 1:04:18
  S1: out demons, I proclaimed Jesus. He's going to say, I
• 1:04:22
  S1: never knew you. So here's the deal. I want you
• 1:04:27
  S1: to know that you know that you're in Jesus Christ.
• 1:04:31
  S1: And there's some of you saying those are things that
• 1:04:36
  S1: are not part of me that you've just cited there,
• 1:04:40
  S1: but they can be. And here's how the good news
• 1:04:43
  S1: is the good news of repentance. Not walking down an aisle.
• 1:04:47
  S1: It's following Jesus, not lifting a hand in the air
• 1:04:50
  S1: when no one's looking. It's about lifting hands in the air, saying,
• 1:04:53
  S1: all that I've got is yours. Everything I am is you. Now,
• 1:05:00
  S1: is that perfected? No. I still glom on to stuff
• 1:05:03
  S1: as a brand new follower of Jesus. But when push
• 1:05:05
  S1: comes to shove and you ask me, do I want
• 1:05:07
  S1: to give Jesus everything that's in my life? Absolutely full stop.
• 1:05:11
  S1: He owns it all. Absolutely. And if you've not yet
• 1:05:17
  S1: known that, Jesus, you can right now. And this is
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  S1: all I'm clear about in Scripture, the gospel is the
• 1:05:25
  S1: gospel of repentance. It's a metanoia moment. It's changing your mind,
• 1:05:30
  S1: your heart, your, the, and the direction of your feet.
• 1:05:35
  S1: You're no longer walk in a broad path. You're walking
• 1:05:37
  S1: a narrow path that leads to life. And you know
• 1:05:41
  S1: how it begins. By you agreeing with God. I'm the problem.
• 1:05:50
  S1: Save me from me. Jesus, thank you for dying on
• 1:05:54
  S1: the cross for my sins. This is not just a
• 1:05:58
  S1: belief that demons are monotheistic guys. This is a heart
• 1:06:05
  S1: rending emptying of self saying, you've got all of me.
• 1:06:10
  S1: Save me from me. You aren't saved into a void.
• 1:06:15
  S1: You're saved into the arms of God. And God wants
• 1:06:20
  S1: to do that in you. And if the cry of
• 1:06:22
  S1: your soul this morning is, God, save me for me.
• 1:06:27
  S1: And you've never you've never had this heart rending moment
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  S1: before in your life. This is something brand new. That's
• 1:06:33
  S1: because God's doing a new thing today. And turn around. Repent.
• 1:06:44
  S1: God's changing your mind, your heart, your direction, everything about you.
• 1:06:48
  S1: And if this is you right now, I mean it.
• 1:06:50
  S1: This is you right now. Today is your day of salvation.
• 1:06:53
  S1: If this is the cry of your soul, you're saying,
• 1:06:55
  S1: I'm done. I'm the problem. Jesus saved me. Text the
• 1:06:59
  S1: word new. We're going to help you. And the Spirit
• 1:07:02
  S1: of God is on the move, working in you right now.
• 1:07:05
  S1: We're going to help you in your first steps with Jesus.
• 1:07:07
  S1: Just text the word new right now, wherever you are,
• 1:07:10
  S1: to 805, five, five, 78, 98. Just one word, new.
• 1:07:16
  S1: Get to the side of the road. Get somewhere safe.
• 1:07:18
  S1: Text new to 805 557898. And he who begins this
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  S1: work in you, he's going to carry it on to
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  S1: completion until the day of Christ Jesus.