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Geoff Schwartz on the CFP semis, Oregon's loss to Indiana, Devon Dampier returning to Utah + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 4: Let's get back to OC from the Murdoch Chevrolet Studio
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  Speaker 3: Am, Welcome back to the Shan O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome in. Jeff Schwartz. Are football experts at every level.
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  Speaker 4: Lots to talk about, a lot of news in the
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  Speaker 4: college and pro football worlds. And Jeff Schwartz is a
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  Speaker 4: former Oregon Duck, so I will not tread lightly because
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  Speaker 4: he can deal with things the way the rest of
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  Speaker 4: us do.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, how are you?
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  Speaker 1: You said no one tells you if your face. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I would do that too.
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  Speaker 2: I did say no one does.
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  Speaker 4: There there's plenty of people, one in particular who likes
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  Speaker 4: to do it all the time. But you know there's
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  Speaker 4: I feel like most of the people on Twitter that
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  Speaker 4: are mad, big mad about you know, a recruiting decision.
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  Speaker 4: It just, you know, said that lack of restraint because
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  Speaker 4: there's no consequence to being a lunatic online.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm guilty of it too.
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  Speaker 1: So it is I'll tell you what this week, We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to organ in a second, I sor I'll answer
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  Speaker 1: the I answer the noise here. But Oregon has potentially
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  Speaker 1: had their entire backup defense going the portal the last
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  Speaker 1: like well, a couple of guys went before in the
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  Speaker 1: end of game, and then like literally the back the
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  Speaker 1: two backup defensive tackles are our third defensive end, like
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  Speaker 1: everyone left, okay, And it's one of those things where,
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  Speaker 1: like I, I personally don't believe that a transfer solves
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  Speaker 1: all your problems. Basically your problem being that you get
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  Speaker 1: to you're not starting an organ right and I get it,
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  Speaker 1: You're in year three. You want to start somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, John, I totally do. But like there's
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  Speaker 1: no point in even sharing that take on the internet
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  Speaker 1: because I'm just gonna get crapped on for it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like just like no, it's frustrating even for me the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of days as a college football fan, as
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  Speaker 1: a fan of Oregan and also look an advocate for
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  Speaker 1: the players, I think the players should be allowed to
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  Speaker 1: transfer one time. I mean, it's crazy when you see
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  Speaker 1: guy going to third fourth fifteen, but that is it
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  Speaker 1: is what the what the what the sport is now?
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  Speaker 1: And like not want to say something about it, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wish these guys luck when they leave.
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  Speaker 1: But also I'm like, dude, you're you're the third d
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  Speaker 1: tackle on a team that is probably organ's likely to
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  Speaker 1: be the favorite when the championship more comes back, Like
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  Speaker 1: you're you're gonna leave to go be the starting de
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  Speaker 1: tackle at cal Okay. I mean, I I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I would do that, right, But if you say
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  Speaker 1: those things of the internet, man who gets so angry with.
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  Speaker 4: You, right, and there's no nuance to the tone and
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  Speaker 4: the whatever the details behind tweets because you have limited
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  Speaker 4: characters and whatnot. But it is a complicated way to
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  Speaker 4: get your point across. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 4: I just don't think even though this Celesimoa is a
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  Speaker 4: great talent, we don't know if he's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a great college football player. Yet he's a great talent.
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  Speaker 4: And he's a big loss because his dad's a legacy
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  Speaker 4: his dad's a legend in the program, so he's a
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  Speaker 4: legacy kid and all that stuff. But it's it's just
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  Speaker 4: it's not a shocking move here. Yeah, And I think
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  Speaker 4: that maybe some people, some people take the commitments too seriously,
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  Speaker 4: when they know that there's still some days left in
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  Speaker 4: the transfer.
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  Speaker 1: Portal, it's just so interesting to me. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: Colorado had the left tackle see and go into the portal,
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  Speaker 1: right and the same fan base that like makes their
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  Speaker 1: whole identity. We we get transfer portal players, right like,
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  Speaker 1: that's our identity. We we're the you know, the the
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  Speaker 1: Loeusviton luggage right like like like bring your bags and
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  Speaker 1: they're a getting so hurt over this. I'm like, you
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  Speaker 1: guys cheer every time you take a defensive from Florida,
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  Speaker 1: right like, but now you get gotten and all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, it's the worst thing in the world that
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  Speaker 1: the portal look exists. You can't have it both ways, right,
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  Speaker 1: You can't cheer when when when, at least in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: you can't cheer when you get someone and then curse
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  Speaker 1: at the guy who's leaving. I mean, right, Like, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to be upset, be upset, it's fine, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. You can be upset he's leaving. But
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  Speaker 1: you can't have it both ways. You you can't cheer
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  Speaker 1: the additions and then also bemoan when you lose someone.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that fans that get way too caught
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  Speaker 1: up in that too, And so it's funny seeing the
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  Speaker 1: reaction from fans. Look again, I I wish everyone luck
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  Speaker 1: when they leave. I might disagree with with why they're leaving,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean that's that's not my choice to make.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's let's get to I think much more interesting things.
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  Speaker 4: U Like, this might be painful for you, Just bear
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  Speaker 4: with me. How and why did it happen that way
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  Speaker 4: for Oregon in a semi final game in Indiana?
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  Speaker 1: It was it's been so Indiana so in precedent, sean
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  Speaker 1: that there's like these these cheating rumors that I think
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  Speaker 1: are just just ridiculous to talk about. But like they're
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  Speaker 1: they're so good and thoroughly beating Alabama, Oregon, they beat
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State. The people are like maybe they're hacking everyone's
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  Speaker 1: cloud system, like like like that's how like that's how
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  Speaker 1: that's how how much they're winning by. And look, I
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  Speaker 1: think that the best way to approach a lot of
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  Speaker 1: this is you know, you're never as good or on
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  Speaker 1: your best day and as bad as your worst day, right,
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  Speaker 1: and that just was a bad organ. Organ was just
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  Speaker 1: wasn't good, right, I mean, you know you start the
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  Speaker 1: game with a pick six, and what was a bummer
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  Speaker 1: on that play was if Dantae Moore just looks to the
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  Speaker 1: other side the field, we had a touchdown. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: didn't they didn't cover or wide receiver running a corner route,
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  Speaker 1: just no one covered them, churns the wrong side in reception,
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  Speaker 1: and then we call back seven to seven. I was
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  Speaker 1: like sweet, Like that's a great response, right, it might
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  Speaker 1: have been our one of our best drivers of the year.
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  Speaker 1: And then we fumble the ball because Dante Moore hits
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  Speaker 1: the running back and not dot Dimore's fault. The back
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  Speaker 1: doesn't clear out. Now twenty one to seven, and it
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  Speaker 1: was just no come back. You know, the thing Indiana
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  Speaker 1: does so well is they're a bowl constrictor. Dude. The
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  Speaker 1: second you start to squirm and feel the heat, start
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  Speaker 1: breathing heavy, they just they just take the life out
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  Speaker 1: of you. And they're so good at that. They're so
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  Speaker 1: well coached, they're physical, they they don't make mistakes ever,
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  Speaker 1: they don't turn the ball over, they don't have a
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  Speaker 1: ton of bad penalties, they don't have special teams issues,
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  Speaker 1: and they're gonna champions. They're gonna beat Miami and They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the greatest story in the history of college football.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing like this story in the sport and any
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  Speaker 1: sport of college sports before. I mean, the closest would
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  Speaker 1: be I would say, maybe, you know Butler, but they
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  Speaker 1: lost the duke in the championship game, right, so that's
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  Speaker 1: that's all for Not they didn't win the game. This
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  Speaker 1: is going to be the greatest story and most improbable
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  Speaker 1: story in cultural history.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you when you talk about them not
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  Speaker 4: making mistakes. It was I think it was already a
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  Speaker 4: three score game at this point, but there was a
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  Speaker 4: a Fernando Mendoza scramble where the ball was popped out
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  Speaker 4: by Yeah, and they're Indiana's best offensive lineman. That Cougan
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  Speaker 4: kid went and he was he was immediately there, Like
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  Speaker 4: even when it was like, oh.
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  Speaker 2: There's a mistake that this could be a big butment.
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  Speaker 4: Nope, never mind, because he's hustling after the play and
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  Speaker 4: he's running to pick his quarterback up when he gets
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  Speaker 4: tackled and oh, there's a football for me, and it's
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  Speaker 4: just like, dang, they really just don't hurt themselves.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and Mendoza got stripsacks and the ball didn't
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  Speaker 1: you know, organ fumbled what we fumbled twice and both
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  Speaker 1: times they were covered the ball. And then they fumbled
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  Speaker 1: twice and both times they were covered the ball. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought that game like does does the sort of
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  Speaker 1: what feels like a little bit of luck. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's part of football. You just you kind
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  Speaker 1: of make your own luck. But they definitely felt like
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  Speaker 1: there was a little bit of luck involved with what
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  Speaker 1: Indiana was doing, with the amount of turnovers that they
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  Speaker 1: they haven't you know, they haven't really had, and some
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  Speaker 1: of the plays they made, and and no, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they just they're just good Sean. I mean that's they're
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  Speaker 1: just good, good programming. They're gonna win it, and they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be untraditional. And I do think the one takeaway
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  Speaker 1: is that twenty twenty three Michigan was super old, twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty four Ohio State was super old, and twenty Indiana
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  Speaker 1: is super old, right. I mean, they can't can't have
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown pass against US who caught touchdown pass from
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in twenty twenty So it clems in by
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  Speaker 1: the way for those who Yeah, and you know, Oregon
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  Speaker 1: is trying that model next year. They got almost everyone
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  Speaker 1: to return, I think, and they're trying to run it
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  Speaker 1: back for championship next season. I mean, I hope we
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  Speaker 1: get it, but it was just a man. Look we look,
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  Speaker 1: when we win a playoff game, we win it. When
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  Speaker 1: we lose, we get our butts kicked.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: That seems to be like the sort of the where
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  Speaker 1: we're at right now with the program. And look, it's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 1: It stinks that it ended that way, but I think
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  Speaker 1: when you think we had something like seventeen new stars
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  Speaker 1: this year across offensive, I think you would take a
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  Speaker 1: semi final berth with all those new pieces around you.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that was one of the th was gonna be
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  Speaker 4: my next question, because you know there's teams that it
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  Speaker 4: ends like that and they're like, well, geez, this sucks
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  Speaker 4: because all these guys are graduating and this was our chance.
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  Speaker 4: But you've been talking about it since like week four
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  Speaker 4: that this isn't really the year for Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's next year. I mean, and it's it's so
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  Speaker 1: so far. We are returning on the defensive line, four
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  Speaker 1: guys that are probably top fifty picks into twenty twenty seven.
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  Speaker 1: I think maybe you know twod Od's not going to
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  Speaker 1: be that that hoighlow draft pick. But I mean you're
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  Speaker 1: turning three guys through top four to four top hundred
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  Speaker 1: guys at the minimum. Like, that's pretty good, right. You're
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  Speaker 1: returning a center who's been a draftable center, your quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if More's returning or not. Kind of
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  Speaker 1: curious where that sits right now, but we'll find. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's just a very talented team still. So the
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  Speaker 1: question is the depth you just you lost, like your
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  Speaker 1: entire your retire backup to the portal. Man, It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of it's kind of crazy how that works. Now.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Schwartz is our guests here on the Sean O'Connell Show,
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  Speaker 4: talking all things football. Look, I could spend more time
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  Speaker 4: on the college football world, but the NFL is a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more interesting right now.
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  Speaker 2: Great, great weekend of playoff games.
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  Speaker 4: The forty nine ers somehow win another one, I know,
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  Speaker 4: even with George Kittle drinking tequila in the locker room
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  Speaker 4: because of an achilles tear. And now they've got a
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  Speaker 4: tough one against Seattle on Saturday. This, I mean, I've
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  Speaker 4: been asking you for like five straight weeks. Can the
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  Speaker 4: Niners get it done.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I hate to count them
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  Speaker 1: out the way they've they've been playing. How much do
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  Speaker 1: you do you do you buy this electromagnetic thing with
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  Speaker 1: a Niners practice facility wholeheartedly?
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  Speaker 2: All in?
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  Speaker 1: I knew you were all in on that. I knew
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  Speaker 1: all in on my on my podcast yesterday, my co
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  Speaker 1: host is like you. He believes every conspiracy and he
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  Speaker 1: he was like, all in the story, and I'm like, Gabe,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have it. I don't have anything to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. Man, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: a doctor. I don't know what to tell you.
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  Speaker 4: I like, I'm being somewhat facetious. I don't I really
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  Speaker 4: don't know. I'm not an expert. I'm not a doctor
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  Speaker 4: on like electromagnetic radiation practice field.
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  Speaker 1: But here's the things story.
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  Speaker 4: Like, let's say you're a skeptic, all right, because you
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  Speaker 4: are right, but you own this fan you own this team,
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  Speaker 4: or you're in a position of significant influence. Wouldn't you
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  Speaker 4: just be like, man, some of my players are starting
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  Speaker 4: to believe this. There's a certain segment of the fan
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  Speaker 4: base that's starting to believe this. I got to move
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  Speaker 4: this practice field, like you just kind of have to
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  Speaker 4: do it.
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  Speaker 1: But they have that. It's been there for thirty five years. Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like I think that, like they didn't build
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  Speaker 1: a practice field when when the stadium showed up, the
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  Speaker 1: stadium showed up around the practice field. So like, this
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  Speaker 1: is not new. They've had this that they've been next
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  Speaker 1: to that facility for thirty years. Now. That's one thing
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  Speaker 1: people don't realize. It's not a new thing. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like they built the stadium and practically has always been there.
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  Speaker 1: I was there for a free agent visit way back
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  Speaker 1: in the day when they were building Levi Stadium. It's
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  Speaker 1: always been there. That's not so that's not new. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: the electricity output is new, I don't know, but it's not.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not new. So okay, now back to the
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  Speaker 1: question hand. I mean, look, geez, I hate to count
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  Speaker 1: the Niners, but I uh, at some point, the defensive
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  Speaker 1: issues of God are gonna matter, right, and and you know,
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  Speaker 1: the say I'll take care of that. I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. And then you know you you're kittle, and
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  Speaker 1: you know you you you still don't have parasol, I think, right.
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  Speaker 1: Troy Williams did play which was good. I mean, when
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  Speaker 1: you check as your third leading receiver in a game,
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  Speaker 1: probably not great, you know, Like I love that his story,
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  Speaker 1: But like when he's your third leading receiver, he's a fullback,
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  Speaker 1: mind you Now he's probably more running back eskin and
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  Speaker 1: old school fullback would be, but he's still a full
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  Speaker 1: back and he's your third leading receiver in a playoff game.
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  Speaker 1: Probably not where you want to be. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I trust Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 1: Still still a problem of mind there with a little
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  Speaker 1: trust factor. So I think you have a chance. I'd
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  Speaker 1: be I wouldn't cant akash Anahan team man, Saul's doing
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  Speaker 1: a great job, you know, I mean they're doing they're
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  Speaker 1: doing his best. I can again that Like, it's been
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  Speaker 1: very impressive to see this group play as hard as
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  Speaker 1: they're playing. Actually the level they have with we got
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  Speaker 1: practice squad linebackers, dude, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Did any result from this weekend surprise you?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: I mean I was wrong on every result. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that surprised me. And I thought I thought
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  Speaker 1: the Charger would be more competitive. That's probably the one
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  Speaker 1: that surprised me the most. I thought it just be
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  Speaker 1: more competitive. I just thought that that they were ready
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  Speaker 1: to be more competitive in that moment, even with their
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  Speaker 1: offensive line. They just they just weren't. You know. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like a dummy for betting, you know, on the
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  Speaker 1: Chargers and the jaguarres in a playoff game. But I
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  Speaker 1: thought those two sides were the better of the sides.
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  Speaker 1: But that, you know, the Eagles. The Eagles had not
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  Speaker 1: been good offense for weeks. I don't know why I
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  Speaker 1: would start this weekend and so nothing really surprised me.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Chargers just sort of lack of you know,
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  Speaker 1: that was that was a blowout, but it was a
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  Speaker 1: one score game for most. I saw tweet last night
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  Speaker 1: too that said like that, I hate to tell this
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  Speaker 1: to you, but you know, the Steelers are game blown out,
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  Speaker 1: down seven to six. That game was was far worse
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  Speaker 1: in the final you know, I guess the final scoring
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  Speaker 1: had been a pretty big margin there, but that game
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  Speaker 1: wasn't closed for most of the game.
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  Speaker 4: Now that that job is open, does it change the
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  Speaker 4: hierarchy of what top candidates are thinking about? Like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know who is if John Harbaugh we go with
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  Speaker 4: him as like the number one guy in this in
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  Speaker 4: this coaching market, is now the Pittsburgh Steelers job more
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  Speaker 4: appealing than everyone else, Giants and Falcons and whoever else.
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  Speaker 1: Is well, I mean I think from a job security, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you feel they've only had three coaches in
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  Speaker 1: seventy years. So from that perspective, absolutely, my concern would
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  Speaker 1: be you don't have a quarterback of the future, and
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  Speaker 1: eve an older, aging defense, and so those are issues
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  Speaker 1: that that are gonna make it tough to win immediately there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Rogers, you're rolling back with Rogers, right,
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  Speaker 1: So who's your quarterback in the future, No one's No
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  Speaker 1: one's available right now right that you think you're getting
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  Speaker 1: able to draft, it's not a great draft here for that.
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  Speaker 1: And then you have older defensive players, so there's there's
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  Speaker 1: some work to be done on the roster, I think.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's attractive job, but because you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Steelers are organization that takes care of their of
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  Speaker 1: their of their own and you don't feel like you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be fired for a bad season or two. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a great job because you don't
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  Speaker 1: have a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Is Aaron Rodgers gonna try to run it back.
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  Speaker 1: He might, I don't know why. I mean, I I
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  Speaker 1: could try. I would like to have a different job.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, anyone wants to hire me, you know, you
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: have to. You have to. Someone's gotta want to hire you.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think Rogers is very hiable right now, so
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I would say probably no. And maybe he waits for
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: a situation where someone gets hurt in camp, or maybe
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I know he wanted to go to the Vikings.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they're so Adam McCarthy that he gets
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the chance to do a one year deal there. But
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine that that he has opportunity to do that.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Uh you know what if I you know, I saw
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: this tweet earlier too about Aaron Rodgers. So he's married.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: We don't even No one knows whose wife is. I've
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: never seen a picture of.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Her, Like, wait, he's not married to that actress. Weren't
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: they engaged?
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah? No, someone else. I thought you'd be all over this. No,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: it's someone else, someone completely different. No one's seen a
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: picture of her like like, no one has knew who
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: she is. It's one of my favorite Like low KEI
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Rogers look like I see people have to Prescott's like
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: still Wearning's wedding where you never seen his wife? Not?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: What does not a picture of her? Like nothing, no idea.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: How he's not beating the allegations. Holy cow, right, that's crazy.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like how do you keep there's no there's I'm
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: looking it up right now, there's no there's not one
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: picture of her.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: So this is funny because there's like, obviously I'm deep
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: in the combat sports world and there's one of the
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: most famous fighters, Habib Normaga.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Mate, I've even you've heard of Kabib is Like, no.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: One's ever seen his wife, but she lives in the
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: mountains in Dagistan, in uh In, a culture where you're
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: not supposed to take photos of women, so it makes
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: sense no one's ever seen her, but.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Like he's ever taken she never going to a fight?
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: No, No, they don't, the Dagistani guys, they don't take
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: their women anywhere.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I need to be aug Astani. Don't tell
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: me I said that. Please, Well, she lives.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: He's a big listener to the show, so I'm sure.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: She'll just show so so so beat me up? Not good?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Uh so? Yeah, So there's no looking up not one
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: picture of her. Yeah, I'm looking it up right now.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: This is a this is a complete mystery.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: And uh yeah, that's that's very very convenient and so
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: difficult to pull off in twenty twenty six.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very crazy, all right?
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Uh so have been based on the results from what
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: we saw this past weekend in the NFL playoffs. Have
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: your expectations for Super Bowl matchups, AFC NFC matchups?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Have they changed it all?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah? You know, I I liked the Rams for the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: longest time, and I I don't want to be a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: flip flopper by I think it's gonna be Seattle. The
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Rams just they just they they just do so many
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: things that lose them games. Right, And this game this
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: weekend'st the Bears is really interesting because they'd be like
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: zero degrees. It's gonna be one of the colder games
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of the weekend. And you know, the Rams are dome
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: team going outside of them on she knock that concerned
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: about it. They played they play in the snow last
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: year in Philly. I'm not worried about it that much.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: But you know, this game features a team like the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Rams who starts fast, until the Bears, who starts slow.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: And the Rams blow a ton of late leads and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the Bears come back and score a lot of points late.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see if any of those trends
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: break in this game where the Rams, you know, start
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: fast or or or to start slow, the Bears start
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: fast and the rolls flip. Because this this feels like
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: a game again where you take the Bears live, you know,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: plus seventeen and a half, and they come all the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: way back and quai back into a tie game situation.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: All right, Let's pretend you actually have a favorite NFL team,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: all right, and let's pretend that that team is in
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: the market for a new head coach. Are you hoping
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: they hire one of the recently fired head coaches that
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: are now available. Do you want a coordinator who's on
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: the rise. Do you want them to go get like
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: a Kurt Signetti type or any other college coach like
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Marcus Freeman whatever, or I don't know, like Gruden come
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: off the couch.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I put a poll out.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's my here's my take on this. I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think you should automatically eliminate defensive coaches, but
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the problem with the defensive coach with a with a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: young quarterback, right, if you have young if you in
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: all these jobs have young quarterbacks, would need young quarterbacks.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Is that that coach, the defensive coach right, hires an
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: offensive coach. Okay, the offense coach does well, they get
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a job. Within two years, you have to find they
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: need to find a new offensive coach, new oc right,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: and the cycle goes on for years and years and years.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And the only time it really worked in this manner
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: was the Patriots right with Belichick because McDaniel's either was
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: there forever right or Charlie Wis was there forever And
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: when McDaniels left, he came back immediately, so he was
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: never gone for that long. And so you know, if
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: you if you hire a defensive coach, let's say for
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the Giants, okay, and Jackson Dart plays out of this
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: out of his world in year one, that coach is
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: that head coach is getting a job. Next year the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: OC I shoulday, it's getting a job. You have to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: hire another offense coordinator another like it. Just it's very
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: hard the defensive coach to ensure you have the coaches
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: staying with you. Where it's not as hard offensively because
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the offensive play caller is to be the
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: head coach, right, Sean, So like that I think is
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: what you have to consider, is that, like if we
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: get a defensive coach to understand that every couple of years,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: we might need a new offense coordinator and that's really
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: tough to you know, to basically pull off, you know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: every two or three years.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense to me. All Right, I'm over time.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I gotta let you go, Bud. Thanks for your time.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: As always, your long rant on people being nice on
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: social media killed my segments. Okay, I'm sorry.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: When we gave you twenty three minutes today.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I appreciate it. If by the way, if
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: you have you said how he Jordan gross for me?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: He won't. He has not answered me yet. I'm not
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: bothering him yet.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: I tried to, but he was on the other side
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: of glass and I was like pantomiming at him and
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: he wouldn't come in and be and jump on the show.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: So not yet.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I'll tell him though.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, guys later.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: That's Jeff Schwartz, longtime NFL veteran, former Oregon Duck heartbreaker
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: for his ducks in the college Football Playoffs semi Final.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: A guy who follows a team that a lot of
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: people are really high on, JB.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Long, is going to join us next. Can the Rams
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: beat the Bears? And who will they play in the
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: NFC Championship if they can advance past this weekend. We'll
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: get to all that on the Sean O'Connell Show ESPN
• 22:34
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