Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: The OIG Report Detailing The Investigation Into Epstein's NPA (Part 20-23) (7/23/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04Speaker 1: In this episode, we're going to get a right back
- 0:06Speaker 1: to the OIG report on the Jeffrey Epstein NPA, Part
- 0:11Speaker 1: eight Post NPA negotiations. Almost immediately after the NPA was signed,
- 0:17Speaker 1: conflicts arose about its terms, and the difficult negotiation process
- 0:21Speaker 1: began anew The USAO quickly realized that there were numerous
- 0:25Speaker 1: issues concerning the monetary Damage's provision that were not resolved
- 0:29Speaker 1: in the NPA, and the parties differed in their interpretations
- 0:32Speaker 1: of the Section two twenty five fifty five provision, in
- 0:36Speaker 1: particular the role and duties of the attorney representatives for
- 0:40Speaker 1: the victims. As negotiations regarding the damage's provision continued, the
- 0:44Speaker 1: defense was able to delay having Epstein enter his guilty
- 0:48Speaker 1: plea in state court a September through October two thousand
- 0:52Speaker 1: and seven. Sloman's concerns about selection of an attorney representative
- 0:57Speaker 1: lead to a proposed NPA adendum. The first controversy centered
- 1:02Speaker 1: on the appointment of an attorney representative for the victims. Initially,
- 1:06Speaker 1: Villa Fauna reached out to private attorney, who was one
- 1:09Speaker 1: of several suggested tour for that role. Villa Fauna notified
- 1:13Speaker 1: left Kowitz that she was recommending the attorney to serve
- 1:16Speaker 1: as the victim's representative and suggested a phone conference to
- 1:20Speaker 1: discuss that information the USAO could disclose to the attorney
- 1:24Speaker 1: about the case. Villa Fauna told Lefkowitz that she had
- 1:27Speaker 1: never met the attorney, but he had been recommended by
- 1:30Speaker 1: a good friend in our appellate section and by one
- 1:34Speaker 1: of the district judges in Miami. Over the next few days,
- 1:37Speaker 1: Villa Fauna exchanged messages with the attorney about the possibility
- 1:40Speaker 1: of his serving as the attorney representative. She also exchanged
- 1:44Speaker 1: emails with left Kowitz, passing along procedural questions raised by
- 1:48Speaker 1: the attorney. By the time Laurie had fully transitioned to
- 1:52Speaker 1: his detail at the department's Criminal Division, Sloman, who had
- 1:55Speaker 1: been on vacation during the week the NPA was finalized
- 1:59Speaker 1: to return to the office, reviewed the final agreement and
- 2:02Speaker 1: immediately expressed his disapproval of the provision authorizing the USAO
- 2:07Speaker 1: to select an attorney representative for the victims, which he
- 2:10Speaker 1: believed might raise the appearance of a conflict of interest. Instead,
- 2:13Speaker 1: he proposed that a special master make the selection. Although
- 2:17Speaker 1: evidently frustrated by Slowman's belated proposal, Vilafauna conveyed to left
- 2:22Speaker 1: Kowitz the suggestion that a special Master be appointed to
- 2:26Speaker 1: select the attorney representative rather than having the USAO make
- 2:29Speaker 1: the selection. She provided left Kowitz a proposal regarding the
- 2:33Speaker 1: Special Master's responsibilities, along with a draft letter to send
- 2:37Speaker 1: to the Special Master explaining the procedure for selecting an
- 2:40Speaker 1: attorney representative. Lefkowitz objected to this proposal in a letter
- 2:45Speaker 1: to Villafauna, pointing out that the NPA did not provide
- 2:48Speaker 1: for the appointment of a special Master. More importantly, Lefkowitz
- 2:52Speaker 1: used a discussion of the special Master as an opening
- 2:55Speaker 1: depress for other alterations to the language of the NPA,
- 2:58Speaker 1: or at least to its interpretation. Focusing on the attorney representative,
- 3:03Speaker 1: Lefkowitz argued that the attorney's role should be viewed as
- 3:06Speaker 1: limited to negotiating settlements, and that the attorney was precluded
- 3:10Speaker 1: from filing lawsuits on behalf of the victims who could
- 3:13Speaker 1: not reach a negotiated settlement with Epstein. Lefkowitz proposed the
- 3:17Speaker 1: selected attorney should evaluate the claims of each identified individual,
- 3:22Speaker 1: negotiate a total fund amount with mister Epstein, then distribute
- 3:25Speaker 1: the monies based on the strength of each case. For
- 3:28Speaker 1: those identified individuals who elect not to settle with mister Epstein,
- 3:32Speaker 1: they may proceed on their own, but by doing so,
- 3:34Speaker 1: they would not be suing under Section twenty two fifty
- 3:37Speaker 1: five as contemplated by the NPA, and therefore may not
- 3:41Speaker 1: continue to be represented by the selected attorney. Lefkowitz also
- 3:45Speaker 1: objected to Villafauna's draft letter to the Special Master, asserting
- 3:49Speaker 1: that it was essential for the Defense to participate in
- 3:53Speaker 1: crafting a mutually acceptable communication to the victims. Going further,
- 3:57Speaker 1: Lefkowitz claimed that any contact between the US and the
- 4:01Speaker 1: victims about the Section twenty two to fifty five provision
- 4:04Speaker 1: would violate the Agreements Confidentiality provision. Lefkowitz admonish the government
- 4:10Speaker 1: not to contact the victims to inform them of the
- 4:12Speaker 1: resolution of the case, including the appointment of the selected
- 4:16Speaker 1: attorney and the settlement process. Villafana forwarded lefkowitz letter to Sloman,
- 4:21Speaker 1: complaining that the Defense interpretation of Section twenty two to
- 4:24Speaker 1: fifty five procedure violated the clear language of the NPA,
- 4:28Speaker 1: and asking can I please just indict them. Days later,
- 4:32Speaker 1: Sanchez emailed Slowman and then sent the follow up letter,
- 4:35Speaker 1: asking that Slowman helped resolve the issue regarding the attorney
- 4:39Speaker 1: representative's role and arguing that Epstein never had intended by
- 4:43Speaker 1: signing the NPA to promise to pay fees for the
- 4:46Speaker 1: victim's civil lawsuits in the event a settlement cannot be reached.
- 4:50Speaker 1: When Villa Fauna explained to Slowman her views on Sanchez's arguments,
- 4:54Speaker 1: Sloman responded, I suggest that you communicate your proposal back
- 4:58Speaker 1: to Sanchez. The more voices as they hear, the more
- 5:01Speaker 1: wedges they try to drive between us. Villafana agreed, noting
- 5:04Speaker 1: that there are so many of them over there, I'm
- 5:07Speaker 1: afraid we are getting triple teamed. Villafana sent Sanchez a
- 5:11Speaker 1: letter regarding the roles of the Special Master and Attorney Representative.
- 5:15Speaker 1: The next day, October tenth, two thousand and seven, Lefkowitz
- 5:18Speaker 1: sent a six page letter to Acosta as a follow
- 5:21Speaker 1: up to our conversation yesterday, expressing serious disagreements with Villafana's
- 5:25Speaker 1: view of the process for victims to claim Section twenty
- 5:29Speaker 1: two to fifty five damages under the NPA. Lefkowitz reiterated
- 5:33Speaker 1: the defense position that the attorney representative's role was meant
- 5:37Speaker 1: to be limited to negotiating settlements for the victims rather
- 5:40Speaker 1: than pursuing litigation. Lefkowitz claim that a requirement that Epstein
- 5:45Speaker 1: pay the victims legal fees incurred from contested litigation would
- 5:49Speaker 1: trigger profound ethical problems in that the attorney representative would
- 5:53Speaker 1: have an incentive to reject settlement offers in order to
- 5:56Speaker 1: incur more fees. In addition, Lefkowitz rejected Villafanna's view that
- 6:00Speaker 1: Epstein had waived the right to challenge section twenty two
- 6:03Speaker 1: to fifty five liability as to the victims who did
- 6:06Speaker 1: not want to settle their claims, and contended that any
- 6:09Speaker 1: such victim will have to prove, among other things, that
- 6:12Speaker 1: they are victims under the enumerated statutes. Finally, Lefkowitz again
- 6:17Speaker 1: argued that the USAO should not discuss the settlement process
- 6:20Speaker 1: with the victims who were to be identified as eligible
- 6:23Speaker 1: for settlement under twenty two fifty five. Miss Villafana proposes
- 6:28Speaker 1: that either she or federal agents will speak with the
- 6:30Speaker 1: victims regarding the settlement process. We do not think it
- 6:34Speaker 1: is the government's place to be co counseled to the victims,
- 6:37Speaker 1: nor should the FBI be their personal investigators. Neither federal
- 6:41Speaker 1: agents nor anyone from your office should contact the victims
- 6:44Speaker 1: to inform them of the resolution of the case, including
- 6:48Speaker 1: appointment of the attorney representative and the settlement process. Not
- 6:52Speaker 1: only would that violate the confidentiality of the agreement, but
- 6:55Speaker 1: mister Epstein will also have no control over what is
- 6:58Speaker 1: communicated to the victims at this most critical stage. We
- 7:02Speaker 1: believe it is essential that we participate in crafting mutually
- 7:05Speaker 1: acceptable communication to the victims. We further believe that communication
- 7:09Speaker 1: between your office or your case agents and the victims
- 7:13Speaker 1: might well violate Rule b E two B of the
- 7:16Speaker 1: Federal Rule. As a criminal procedure, the powers of the
- 7:19Speaker 1: Federal grand jury should not, even in appearance, be utilized
- 7:23Speaker 1: to advance the interests of a party to a civil lawsuit.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Leftkowitz concluded, I look forward to resolving these open issues
- 7:30Speaker 1: with you. During our four to thirty call today, Philifauna
- 7:34Speaker 1: was at the time on sick leave, and Slowman and
- 7:36Speaker 1: Acosta exchange demls about crafting and addendum to the NPA
- 7:40Speaker 1: to address the method of appointing an attorney representative and
- 7:43Speaker 1: to articulate the representative's duties. The next day, October eleventh,
- 7:47Speaker 1: two thousand seven, Slowman exchanged demails with Leftkowitz about the
- 7:51Speaker 1: text of a proposed addendum. B October twelfth, two thousand seven,
- 7:56Speaker 1: Acosta and defense attorney left Kowitz meet for breakfast on
- 8:00Speaker 1: the morning after his scheduled afternoon phone call with Lefkowitz.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Acosta exchanged emails with left Kowitz, arranging to meet for
- 8:08Speaker 1: breakfast the following day, on October twelfth, two thousand seven,
- 8:12Speaker 1: at a Marriott hotel in the West Palm Beach. Contemporaneous
- 8:15Speaker 1: records showed that Acosta was previously scheduled to be in
- 8:18Speaker 1: Palm Beach for a press event on October eleventh and
- 8:21Speaker 1: to speak at the Palm Beach County Bench Bar conference
- 8:24Speaker 1: the following midday, and that he stayed overnight at the Marriotte. However,
- 8:29Speaker 1: as with Villafauna's publicly released emails to left Kowitz, this
- 8:32Speaker 1: meeting between Acosta and Lefkowitz drew criticism when the media
- 8:36Speaker 1: learned of it during the CVRA litigation. It was seen
- 8:39Speaker 1: either as further evidence of the usao's willingness to meet
- 8:43Speaker 1: with Epstein's attorneys while simultaneously ignoring the victims or as
- 8:47Speaker 1: a meeting at which Acosta made secret agreements with the defense.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Two letters written later in two thousand and seven referred
- 8:54Speaker 1: to the breakfast meeting. In a December two thousand seven
- 8:57Speaker 1: letter to Sanchez, Acosta stated that he had Sue Sponti
- 9:00Speaker 1: proposed the addendum to mister Lefkowitz at an October meeting
- 9:04Speaker 1: in Palm Beach in an attempt to avoid what I
- 9:06Speaker 1: foresaw would likely be a litigous selection process. In an
- 9:11Speaker 1: October twenty three, two thousand seven, letter from Lefkowitz to Acosta,
- 9:15Speaker 1: less than two weeks after the breakfast meeting, Lefkowitz represented
- 9:19Speaker 1: that during the meeting, Acosta assured me that the USAO
- 9:23Speaker 1: would not intervene with the State Attorney's office regarding this
- 9:26Speaker 1: matter or contact any of the identified individuals, potential witnesses,
- 9:30Speaker 1: or potential civil claimants and their respective counsel in this matter,
- 9:34Speaker 1: and that neither the USAO nor the FBI would intervene
- 9:38Speaker 1: regarding the sentence mister Epstein receives pursuing too a plea
- 9:41Speaker 1: with the state so long as the sentence does not
- 9:44Speaker 1: violate state law. However, two days after receiving this letter,
- 9:48Speaker 1: Acosta revised a response letter drafted by Sloman, adding the
- 9:51Speaker 1: term inaccurate to describe Lefkowitz's claims that Acosta had promised
- 9:55Speaker 1: not to intervene with the State Attorney's office, contact individual witnesses, claimants,
- 10:01Speaker 1: or intervene regarding Epstein's sentence. The draft response stated, such
- 10:05Speaker 1: a promise equates to the imposition of a gag order.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Our office cannot and will not agree to this. A
- 10:11Speaker 1: Costa told OPR that he did not remember the breakfast meeting,
- 10:14Speaker 1: but he speculated that the meeting may have been prompted
- 10:17Speaker 1: by defense complaints that Villa Fauna had recommended her boyfriend's
- 10:20Speaker 1: partner to serve as attorney representative. Acosta said that the
- 10:25Speaker 1: way this was reported in the press was that I
- 10:27Speaker 1: negotiated the NPA over breakfast, which was inaccurate because the
- 10:31Speaker 1: NPA had been signed weeks before the breakfast meeting. When
- 10:35Speaker 1: asked about left kowitz description of their breakfast meeting discussion,
- 10:39Speaker 1: a Costa told OPR that there were several instances in
- 10:42Speaker 1: which left Kowitz and other defense counsel mischaracterized something he
- 10:46Speaker 1: or an AAUSA said in a way that was misleading.
- 10:49Speaker 1: Emails showed that immediately after the breakfast a cost of
- 10:53Speaker 1: phone Slowman, who then emailed to left Kowitz or revision
- 10:56Speaker 1: to the addendum language they had been negotiating, and who
- 10:59Speaker 1: also later reported to Villa Fauna that Lefkowitz suggested revision
- 11:03Speaker 1: had been rejected. Other emails show that the parties continued
- 11:07Speaker 1: to be at odds about the proposed language of the
- 11:09Speaker 1: NPA addendum for several days after the breakfast meeting. All right, folks,
- 11:14Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up this episode here and in
- 11:16Speaker 1: the next episode we're going to pick up with a.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Costa agrees to the defense request to postpone Epstein's guilty plea.
- 11:22Speaker 1: The parties continue to negotiate issues concerning the attorney representative,
- 11:27Speaker 1: and finally reach agreement on the NPA addendum. All the
- 11:30Speaker 1: information that goes with this episode can be found in
- 11:33Speaker 1: the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to
- 11:37Speaker 1: the program. In this episode, we're getting right back to
- 11:40Speaker 1: the OIG report and we're going to pick up where
- 11:43Speaker 1: we left off. See A Costa agrees to the defense
- 11:46Speaker 1: request to postpone Epstein's guilty plea. The parties continue to
- 11:50Speaker 1: negotiate issues concerning the attorney representative and finally reach agreement
- 11:55Speaker 1: on the NPA addendum. A week after his breakfast meeting
- 12:00Speaker 1: with Acosta left, Kowitz, citing a scheduling conflicts, sent a
- 12:03Speaker 1: Costa an email seeking his agreement to postpone Epstein's entry
- 12:07Speaker 1: of his guilty plea in state court from October twenty six,
- 12:10Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, the date agreed to in the NPA,
- 12:13Speaker 1: to November twentieth, two thousand and seven. In his email left,
- 12:17Speaker 1: Kowitz reported that the State Attorney's office had agreed to
- 12:20Speaker 1: the postponement, and he noted that Acosta had said during
- 12:23Speaker 1: the breakfast meeting that he didn't want to dictate the
- 12:26Speaker 1: schedule to the state. Acosta solicited input from Slowman, who
- 12:30Speaker 1: later that day email left Kuwitz and agreed to the postponement.
- 12:35Speaker 1: With Lori having departed from the USAO, Slowman became more
- 12:38Speaker 1: involved in the negotiating the NPA addendum than he had
- 12:42Speaker 1: been in the negotiations leading to the NPA, and he
- 12:45Speaker 1: quickly came up against the problem Villa, Fauna and Lori
- 12:48Speaker 1: had faced. The defense attorneys continued to negotiate provisions to
- 12:53Speaker 1: which they had seemingly already agreed. Between October twelfth and nineteenth,
- 12:57Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, in a series of email exchange
- 13:00Speaker 1: and phone conversations, Acosta, Sloman, Villa Fauna, and left Kowitz
- 13:04Speaker 1: continued working on language for the NPA addendum, addressing the
- 13:09Speaker 1: process for selection of the attorney representative and describing which
- 13:13Speaker 1: of the representative's activities Epstein would be required to reimburse.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Although it appeared that progress was being made towards reaching
- 13:21Speaker 1: agreement on the terms of an addendum, on October nineteenth,
- 13:24Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, left Kowitz emailed Slowman identifying areas
- 13:28Speaker 1: of concern with a proposal the USAO had made days before.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Sloman forwarded the email to Acosta, noting that it replows
- 13:36Speaker 1: some of what we accomplished this week and raised unnecessary issues.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Sloman reported to Acosta that a victim in New York
- 13:44Speaker 1: had filed a civil lawsuit against Epstein, and Villafana was
- 13:47Speaker 1: concerned that this may be the real reason for the
- 13:50Speaker 1: delay in the plea. She thinks that Epstein wants to
- 13:53Speaker 1: knock that lawsuit out before the guilty plea to deter others.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Slowman also alerted Acosta that newspaper reports indicated that Epstein
- 14:02Speaker 1: had planted false stories in the press in an attempt
- 14:04Speaker 1: to discredit the victims. On October twenty second, two thousand
- 14:08Speaker 1: and seven, Sloman responded to the issues Leftkuwitz had raised,
- 14:12Speaker 1: rejecting some defense proposals, but agreeing to modify certain language
- 14:16Speaker 1: in the proposed addendum to satisfy your concern. Noting that
- 14:20Speaker 1: the addendum had a revised letter to the Special Master
- 14:23Speaker 1: were attached. Sloman ended by stating, this needs to be concluded,
- 14:27Speaker 1: Alex and I believe that this is as far as
- 14:29Speaker 1: we can go. Therefore, please advise me whether we have
- 14:32Speaker 1: a deal no later than cob tomorrow. Nonetheless, the next day,
- 14:37Speaker 1: Lefkowitz sent a Costa a three page letter reiterating the
- 14:40Speaker 1: Epstein team's disagreements with the usao's interpretation of the NPA.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Lefkowitz noted, however, that Epstein had every intention of honoring
- 14:49Speaker 1: the terms of the NPA in good faith, and that
- 14:51Speaker 1: the defense letter was not intended to be a recision
- 14:54Speaker 1: or withdrawal from the terms of the NPA. Lefkowitz added,
- 14:58Speaker 1: I also want to thank you your commitment that you
- 15:01Speaker 1: made to me during our October twelfth meeting in which
- 15:04Speaker 1: you promise genuine finality with regard to this matter and
- 15:07Speaker 1: assured me that your office would not intervene with State
- 15:10Speaker 1: Attorney's office regarding this matter or contact any of the
- 15:15Speaker 1: identified individuals, potential witnesses, or potential civil claimants and their
- 15:19Speaker 1: respective counsel in this matter, and that neither your office
- 15:23Speaker 1: nor the FBI would intervene regarding the sentence mister Epstein
- 15:26Speaker 1: receives pursuing too a plea with the state so long
- 15:30Speaker 1: as that sentence does not violate state law. Indeed, so
- 15:33Speaker 1: long as mister Epstein's sentence does not explicitly violate the
- 15:37Speaker 1: terms of the agreement, he's entitled to any type of
- 15:40Speaker 1: sentence available to him, including, but not limited to gain
- 15:44Speaker 1: time and work release. Sloman forwarded the letter to Villa Fauna, commenting,
- 15:49Speaker 1: wait until you see this one. Villafana replied, welcome to
- 15:52Speaker 1: my world. I love the way they want to interpret
- 15:55Speaker 1: this agreement. It also looks like they're planning to ask
- 15:59Speaker 1: for and receive a sentence far lower than the one
- 16:02Speaker 1: we agree to. Has anyone talked to Barry Krisher about this?
- 16:05Speaker 1: Maybe this is the real reason for the delay in
- 16:07Speaker 1: entering the guilty plea. We also have to contact the
- 16:10Speaker 1: victims to tell them about the outcome of the case
- 16:13Speaker 1: and to advise them that an attorney will be contacting
- 16:16Speaker 1: them regarding possible claims against mister Epstein. If we don't
- 16:20Speaker 1: do that, it may be a violation of the Florida
- 16:23Speaker 1: bar rules for the selected attorney to cold call the girls.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Why don't we agreed a mutual recision and indictem Acosta
- 16:31Speaker 1: also weighed in sending both Villa Fauna and Slowman an
- 16:34Speaker 1: email with a subject line that read this has to stop,
- 16:37Speaker 1: in which he stated, just read the letter. One. We
- 16:40Speaker 1: specifically refuse to include the provision, saying that we would
- 16:44Speaker 1: not communicate if I recall the conference call. We told
- 16:47Speaker 1: them we could not agree to a gag order using
- 16:49Speaker 1: those words. Two, the purpose of the agreement was not
- 16:53Speaker 1: an out of court settlement. Seems that they can't take no,
- 16:57Speaker 1: let's talk how to proceed. I'm not sure we will
- 17:00Speaker 1: never her agree on a letter to the Special Master
- 17:02Speaker 1: about how to select an attorney representative at that point,
- 17:05Speaker 1: notwithstanding Acosta's assessment and prediction, after Slowman sent the letter
- 17:10Speaker 1: to Lefkowitz, a new draft addendum, and they spoke by phone.
- 17:13Speaker 1: The parties reached agreement on the addendum's terms. On October
- 17:17Speaker 1: twenty fifth, two thousand and seven, Slowman sent a letter
- 17:20Speaker 1: to the person whom the USAO had selected to serve
- 17:23Speaker 1: as Special Master, outlining the special Master's duties. A few
- 17:27Speaker 1: days later, on October twenty ninth, two thousand and seven,
- 17:30Speaker 1: Epstein and his attorneys left court in Sanchez signed the
- 17:33Speaker 1: NPA addendum. Villafana's name was printed as the USAO representative,
- 17:38Speaker 1: but at Villafana's request, Slowman signed the addendum for her
- 17:41Speaker 1: on behalf of the USAO. Villafana later emailed Slowman, thanking
- 17:46Speaker 1: him for the advice in the Pep Talk, which apparently
- 17:49Speaker 1: related to the defense attorney's allegations of impropriety concerning her
- 17:53Speaker 1: initial selection of the private attorney to assist the victims.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Villa Fauna explained to Slowman, the funny thing is that
- 18:00Speaker 1: I never met and still haven't met or spoken to
- 18:03Speaker 1: the private attorney before I asked him if he would
- 18:05Speaker 1: be willing to take on this case. But as soon
- 18:07Speaker 1: as you mentioned the appearance problem, I saw where the
- 18:10Speaker 1: problem would arise and agreed that the Special Master would
- 18:13Speaker 1: be a safer route. I just worry that the defense
- 18:16Speaker 1: attacks on me could harm the victims. Sloman responded that
- 18:19Speaker 1: Defense Council had put an insidious spin on Villafana's role
- 18:23Speaker 1: in proposing the private attorney, but Slowman added, I hope
- 18:27Speaker 1: that you understand that these ad hominem attacks against you
- 18:30Speaker 1: do not diminish in our eyes what you and the
- 18:33Speaker 1: agents have accomplished. D Epstein further delays his guilty plea.
- 18:38Speaker 1: The addendum did not bring the case to conclusion. Instead,
- 18:41Speaker 1: the matter entered a new protracted phase, which involved the
- 18:44Speaker 1: upper echelons of the Department of Justice. Despite the fact
- 18:47Speaker 1: that Epstein and his attorneys had signed the NPA, they
- 18:50Speaker 1: pursued a new strategy of appealing to senior department managers
- 18:54Speaker 1: with the goal of setting aside the NPA entirely. Although
- 18:58Speaker 1: ultimately unsuccessful, the strategy he delayed the entry of Epstein's
- 19:01Speaker 1: guilty plea by months. On October twenty ninth, two thousand
- 19:05Speaker 1: and seven, Villa Fauna emailed Slowman, raising several issues that
- 19:09Speaker 1: she wanted Slowman to address with Lefkowitz. Among other things,
- 19:13Speaker 1: Villa Fauna pointed out that the NPA required Epstein to
- 19:16Speaker 1: use his best efforts to comply with the agreement, but
- 19:19Speaker 1: he had failed to comply with the timeline established by
- 19:23Speaker 1: the NPA when he sought and obtained a plea hearing
- 19:26Speaker 1: postponement from October twenty sixth to November twentieth. Responding to
- 19:31Speaker 1: lefkowitz attempts to limit the usao's communications with various entities
- 19:36Speaker 1: and individuals, Villa Fauna noted that the USAO needed to
- 19:40Speaker 1: be able to communicate with the State Attorney's Office and
- 19:43Speaker 1: the victim's attorney to ensure that Epstein is abiding by
- 19:46Speaker 1: the terms of his agreement. That same day, Assistant State
- 19:49Speaker 1: Attorney Bellehovlik informed Slowman that the state judge assigned to
- 19:53Speaker 1: the case had scheduled Epstein's plea and sentence in early
- 19:57Speaker 1: January two thousand and eight. Bellehovlk assured Sloman that the
- 20:00Speaker 1: plea and sentence will definitely occur before the January fourth
- 20:04Speaker 1: date that was agreed on by all for sentencing. Nonetheless,
- 20:07Speaker 1: emails over the course of the next month show that
- 20:10Speaker 1: the USAO, the State Attorney's Office, the Defense Council continued
- 20:14Speaker 1: to communicate regarding the date of the guilty plea, with
- 20:17Speaker 1: the USAO asserting that a proposed January seventh, two thousand
- 20:21Speaker 1: and eight date for the entry of Epstein's guilty plea
- 20:24Speaker 1: was unacceptable, while the defense contended that Epstein had not
- 20:28Speaker 1: agreed to any date. Finally, after multiple communications referring to
- 20:32Speaker 1: various potential dates, on December seventh, two thousand and seven,
- 20:36Speaker 1: Epstein attorney Jack Goldberger issued a notice of hearing setting
- 20:40Speaker 1: the case for January fourth, two thousand and eight. E
- 20:43Speaker 1: Epstein seeks Department review of the NPA Section twenty two
- 20:47Speaker 1: to fifty five provision relating to monetary damages for the victims.
- 20:52Speaker 1: With Epstein's plea hearing delayed, he launched a new effort
- 20:55Speaker 1: to undermine the validity of the NPA, this time within
- 20:58Speaker 1: the department. November sixteenth, two thousand and seven, Epstein attorney
- 21:03Speaker 1: Kenneth Starr called the Office of Assistant Attorney General for
- 21:06Speaker 1: the Criminal Division, Alish Fisher, and left a message that
- 21:09Speaker 1: he was calling regarding Epstein. At Fisher's request, Lorie, who
- 21:13Speaker 1: in late September two thousand and seven began serving his
- 21:16Speaker 1: detail as Fisher's principal deputy and chief of staff, return
- 21:20Speaker 1: the call. Fisher told OPR that she had no recollection
- 21:23Speaker 1: of this call, and Laurie also could not recall for
- 21:26Speaker 1: OPR the substance of his conversations with Starr, other than
- 21:30Speaker 1: that it was likely about Epstein's wish to have the
- 21:33Speaker 1: Department review the case. On November twenty eighth, two thousand
- 21:37Speaker 1: and seven, Starr requested by letter of meeting with Fisher.
- 21:40Speaker 1: In his letter, Star argued that the USAO improperly had
- 21:44Speaker 1: compelled Epstein to agree to pay civil damages under US
- 21:48Speaker 1: Code eighteen, Section twenty two fifty five as part of
- 21:51Speaker 1: a state based resolution of a criminal case. On that
- 21:54Speaker 1: same day, Lefkowitz emailed Slowman complaining about the usao's plant
- 21:58Speaker 1: to notify victims about the twenty two to fifty five
- 22:01Speaker 1: provision and alerting Slowman that Epstein's council we're seeking a
- 22:06Speaker 1: meeting with the Assistant Attorney General to address what we
- 22:09Speaker 1: believe is the unprecedented nature of the section twenty two
- 22:12Speaker 1: to fifty five component of the NPA. After Lori sent
- 22:15Speaker 1: to Slowman a copy of the Star letter, Slowman forwarded
- 22:19Speaker 1: it to Villa Fauna, asking her to prepare a chronology
- 22:22Speaker 1: of the plea negotiations. And how the twenty two to
- 22:25Speaker 1: fifty five provision evolved. Villafana responded that she was going
- 22:29Speaker 1: through all of the ways in which they have tried
- 22:31Speaker 1: to breach the agreement to convince you guys to let
- 22:34Speaker 1: me indict. All right, we're going to wrap up this
- 22:36Speaker 1: episode here and in the next episode we're going to
- 22:39Speaker 1: pick up where we left off. All of the information
- 22:42Speaker 1: that goes with this episode can be found in the
- 22:44Speaker 1: description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the
- 22:47Speaker 1: Epstein chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
- 22:51Speaker 1: the OIG report into Jeffrey Epstein's non prosecution agreement. In Washington, DC,
- 22:58Speaker 1: Louri consulted with CEO's chief Osterbon, asking for his thoughts
- 23:02Speaker 1: on defense counsel's arguments. At the same time, at Lourie's request,
- 23:06Speaker 1: Villa Fauna sent the NPA and its addendum to Louri
- 23:09Speaker 1: and Osterbon. Osterbon responded to Lori that he was not
- 23:13Speaker 1: thrilled about the NPA, described Epstein's conduct as unusually egregious,
- 23:17Speaker 1: particularly because of its serial nature, and observed that the
- 23:21Speaker 1: NPA was pretty advantageous for the defendant and not all
- 23:25Speaker 1: that helpful to the victims. He opined however, that the
- 23:28Speaker 1: Assistant Attorney General would not and should not consider or
- 23:31Speaker 1: address the NPA other than say that she agrees with it.
- 23:35Speaker 1: During her OPR interview, Fischer did not recall reading Starr's
- 23:38Speaker 1: letter or discussing it with Osterbon, but believed the comment
- 23:42Speaker 1: about her agreeing with it referred to a federal prosecution
- 23:45Speaker 1: of Epstein, which she believed was appropriate. She told OPR, however,
- 23:49Speaker 1: that she played no role in the NPA and did
- 23:52Speaker 1: not review or approve the agreement either before or after
- 23:55Speaker 1: it was signed. As set fourth and more detail in
- 23:58Speaker 1: chapter three of this report, Villa Fauna planned to notify
- 24:01Speaker 1: the victims about the NPA and its section twenty two
- 24:04Speaker 1: to fifty five provision, as well as about the state
- 24:07Speaker 1: plea hearing, and she provided a draft of the notification
- 24:10Speaker 1: letter to left Kowitz four comments. On November twenty ninth,
- 24:13Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, left Kowitz sent a Costo a
- 24:16Speaker 1: letter complaining about the draft notification to the victims. Lefkowitz
- 24:20Speaker 1: asked USAO to refrain from notifying the victims until after
- 24:25Speaker 1: Defense counsel met with Assistant Attorney General Fisher, which he
- 24:28Speaker 1: anticipated would take place the following week. Internal emails indicate
- 24:32Speaker 1: that Lori contacted Osterbahn about his availability for a meeting
- 24:36Speaker 1: with Starr, but both Fisher and Laurie told OPR that
- 24:40Speaker 1: such a meeting never took place, and OPR found no
- 24:43Speaker 1: evidence that it did. Acosta promptly responded to Lefkowitz by
- 24:47Speaker 1: letter directing him to raise his concerns about victim notification
- 24:51Speaker 1: with Villa, Fauna or Sloman. Acosta also addressed Epstein's evident
- 24:56Speaker 1: efforts to stop the NPA from being enforced. Since the
- 24:59Speaker 1: signing of the September twenty fourth agreement more than two
- 25:02Speaker 1: months ago, it has become clear that several attorneys on
- 25:05Speaker 1: your legal team are dissatisfied with that result. You. Professor Dershowitz,
- 25:10Speaker 1: former Solicitor Star, former United States Attorney Lewis miss Sanchez,
- 25:15Speaker 1: Black Goldberg, and left Court previously had the opportunity to
- 25:18Speaker 1: review and raise objections to the terms of the agreement.
- 25:21Speaker 1: The defense team, however, after extensive negotiation, chose to adopt
- 25:25Speaker 1: the agreement. Since then, Council have objected to several steps
- 25:29Speaker 1: taken by the U S. Attorney's Office to effectuate the
- 25:31Speaker 1: terms of the agreement, in essence presenting collateral challenges to
- 25:36Speaker 1: portions of the agreement. It is not the intention of
- 25:40Speaker 1: this office ever to require a defendant tend to applee
- 25:43Speaker 1: against his wishes. Your client has the right to proceed
- 25:46Speaker 1: to trial if your client is dissatisfied with this agreement
- 25:49Speaker 1: or believes that it is unvalid, unlawful, or unfair, we
- 25:53Speaker 1: stand ready to unwine the agreement. In a separate seven
- 25:56Speaker 1: page letter to Star, with Villafana and Sloman's input, a
- 25:59Speaker 1: cost to respond it to the substance of Starr's November
- 26:02Speaker 1: twenty eighth letter to assist an Attorney General Fisher. Fischer
- 26:06Speaker 1: told OPR that she did not recall Hyacosta rather than
- 26:09Speaker 1: her office responded to the letter, but she conjectured that
- 26:13Speaker 1: probably I was trying to make sure that somebody responded
- 26:16Speaker 1: since the Criminal Division wasn't going to respond. In his
- 26:19Speaker 1: seven page letter sent a Star on December fourth, two
- 26:22Speaker 1: thousand and seven, Acosta wrote, the non prosecution agreement entered
- 26:26Speaker 1: into between this office and mister Epstein response to mister
- 26:29Speaker 1: Epstein's desire to reach a global resolution of his state
- 26:32Speaker 1: and federal criminal liability. Under this agreement, this District has
- 26:36Speaker 1: agreed to defer prosecution for enumerated sections of Title eighteen
- 26:41Speaker 1: in favor of prosecution by the State of Florida provided
- 26:44Speaker 1: mister Epstein satisfies three general federal interests, one that mister
- 26:48Speaker 1: Epstein plead guilty to a registrable offense, two that this
- 26:52Speaker 1: plea include a binding recommendation for a sufficient term of imprisonment,
- 26:56Speaker 1: and three that the agreement not harmed the interests of
- 26:59Speaker 1: his victims. A Costa explained in the letter that usao's
- 27:02Speaker 1: intent was to place the identified victims in the same
- 27:05Speaker 1: position as they would have been if mister Epstein was
- 27:08Speaker 1: convicted at trial, no more, no less. Acosta documented the
- 27:13Speaker 1: usao's understanding of the operation of the NPA's Section twenty
- 27:17Speaker 1: two fifty five provision, recounted the history of the NPA negotiations,
- 27:21Speaker 1: and described the post signing efforts by Epstein's council to
- 27:25Speaker 1: challenge portions of the NPA. Acosta's letter concluded, although it
- 27:29Speaker 1: happens rarely, I do not mind this office decision being
- 27:32Speaker 1: appealed to Washington, and have previously directed our prosecutors to
- 27:36Speaker 1: delay filings in this case to provide defense counsel with
- 27:40Speaker 1: the option of appealing our decisions Indeed, although I am
- 27:43Speaker 1: confident in our prosecutor's evidence and legal analysis, I nonetheless
- 27:47Speaker 1: directed them to consult with the subject matter experts in
- 27:50Speaker 1: CEOs to confirm our interpretation of the law before approving
- 27:54Speaker 1: their charges. I am thus surprised to read a letter
- 27:57Speaker 1: addressed to Department Headquarters that raises issue chose that either
- 28:01Speaker 1: have not been raised with this office previously, or that
- 28:04Speaker 1: have been raised and in fact resolved in your client's favor.
- 28:07Speaker 1: I am troubled likewise by the apparent lack of finality
- 28:10Speaker 1: in this agreement. The Usays who have been negotiating with
- 28:14Speaker 1: Defense Counsel have for some time complained to me regarding
- 28:17Speaker 1: the tactics used by the Defense team. It appears to
- 28:20Speaker 1: them that as soon as resolution is reached on one issue,
- 28:23Speaker 1: Defense Counsel finds ways to challenge the resolution collaterally. My
- 28:28Speaker 1: response thus far has been that Defense Council is doing
- 28:30Speaker 1: its job to vigorously represent the client that said, there
- 28:34Speaker 1: must be closure on this matter. Some in our office
- 28:36Speaker 1: are deeply concerned that Defense Council will continue to amount
- 28:39Speaker 1: collateral challenges to provisions of the agreement even after mister
- 28:43Speaker 1: Epstein has entered his guilty plea and thus rendered the
- 28:46Speaker 1: agreement difficult, if not unpossible, to unwind. I would reiterate
- 28:51Speaker 1: that this is not the intention of the office to
- 28:53Speaker 1: ever force the hand of a defendant to enter into
- 28:55Speaker 1: an agreement against his wishes. Your client has the right
- 28:58Speaker 1: to proceed to trial, although time is of the essence,
- 29:01Speaker 1: I am directing our prosecutors not to issue victim notification
- 29:05Speaker 1: letters until this Friday to provide you with time to
- 29:08Speaker 1: review these options with your client. We expect a written
- 29:11Speaker 1: decision by December seventh, two thousand and seven, at five pm,
- 29:15Speaker 1: indicating whether the defense team wishes to reaffirm or to
- 29:18Speaker 1: unwind the agreement. Acosta explained to OPR that he did
- 29:23Speaker 1: not view the letter as inviting department review, but he
- 29:26Speaker 1: believed that department had the right to address Epstein's concerns. Moreover,
- 29:30Speaker 1: the usao's only option at the time was to declare
- 29:33Speaker 1: Epstein in breach of the NPA, which would have prompted
- 29:36Speaker 1: litigation as to whether Epstein was in fact in breach.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Acosta noted that Defense Council repeatedly proclaimed Epstein's intent to
- 29:44Speaker 1: abide by the agreement, making any USAO effort to declare
- 29:48Speaker 1: him in breach more difficult. In fact, the day after
- 29:51Speaker 1: receiving Acosta's letter, Star and left Quitz responded to Acosta
- 29:55Speaker 1: with copies to Slowman and the Assistant Attorney General Fisher
- 30:00Speaker 1: that the defense first and foremost reaffirmed the NPA, that
- 30:03Speaker 1: Epstein had no intention of unwinding his agreement. On December seventh,
- 30:07Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, the deadline set by Acosta in
- 30:10Speaker 1: his December fourth, two thousand and seven letter to Star,
- 30:13Speaker 1: the defense transmitted to the USAO one sentence affirmation of
- 30:17Speaker 1: the NPA and its addendum signed by Epstein. F despite
- 30:22Speaker 1: affirming the NPA Defense Council intensify their challenges to it,
- 30:27Speaker 1: and accused Villa Fauna of improper conduct. One December seventh
- 30:31Speaker 1: and eleventh, two thousand and seven, Star and Leftkuwit send
- 30:34Speaker 1: to Acosta letters and ethics opinions complaining about the federal
- 30:38Speaker 1: investigation and Villa Fauna. On the same day that the
- 30:42Speaker 1: defense team sent Epstein's affirmation to the USAO, Star and
- 30:46Speaker 1: Left Kuwitz sent to Acosta two independent ethics opinions, one
- 30:50Speaker 1: authored by prominent criminal defense attorney and former U S
- 30:53Speaker 1: attorney Joe Whitley, which assessed purported improprieties in the federal
- 30:57Speaker 1: investigation of Epstein and the by a prominent retired federal
- 31:02Speaker 1: judge and former U S attorney arguing against the NPA's
- 31:05Speaker 1: use of civil damage's recovery provision under US Code eighteen,
- 31:09Speaker 1: section twenty two fifty five as a proxy for traditional
- 31:13Speaker 1: criminal restitution. Days later, on December eleventh, two thousand seven,
- 31:18Speaker 1: Star sent a letter to Acosta transmitting two lengthy submissions
- 31:22Speaker 1: authored by left Kuwitz, presenting substantative challenges to the NPA
- 31:26Speaker 1: and to the background and conduct of the investigation. These
- 31:30Speaker 1: submissions repeated arguments previously raised by the defense, but also
- 31:34Speaker 1: asserted new issues. In one submission, twenty pages long, left
- 31:38Speaker 1: Kowitz addressed the improper involvement of federal authorities in the
- 31:41Speaker 1: investigation and criticized Villafauna for a number of alleged improprieties,
- 31:46Speaker 1: including having engaged in unprecedented federal overreaching by seeking to
- 31:51Speaker 1: prosecute Epstein federally, insisting that the state attorney's office charged
- 31:55Speaker 1: mister Epstein with violations of law and recommend a sentence
- 31:59Speaker 1: that are significantly horg pr sure than what the state
- 32:01Speaker 1: deemed appropriate, and requiring that Epstein plead guilty to a
- 32:05Speaker 1: registrable offense, a harsh condition that was unwarranted. Lefkowitz also
- 32:11Speaker 1: argued that the federal investigation relied upon a state investigation
- 32:15Speaker 1: that was tanked by the lead PBPD detectives, misrepresentation of
- 32:19Speaker 1: key facts and affidavids, and interview summaries, leading the USAO
- 32:24Speaker 1: to make its charging decision based on flawed information that
- 32:27Speaker 1: compromised the federal investigation. Finally, left Kowitz criticized federal involvement
- 32:33Speaker 1: in the state plea process as a violation of the
- 32:35Speaker 1: tenants of the petit Policy. In a second thirteen page submission,
- 32:39Speaker 1: left Kowitz reiterated Epstein's complaints about the section twenty two
- 32:43Speaker 1: to fifty five component of the NPA, arguing, among other things,
- 32:47Speaker 1: that federal prosecutors should not be in the business of
- 32:50Speaker 1: helping allege victims of state crimes secure civil financial settlements.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Notwithstanding these voluminous submissions, Lefkowitz added that Epstein on one
- 33:00Speaker 1: conditionally reasserts his intention to fulfill and not seek to
- 33:03Speaker 1: withdraw from or unwind the NPA. Two. As a result
- 33:08Speaker 1: of the star in left Kowitz submissions, the new USAO
- 33:11Speaker 1: Criminal Chief begins a full review of the evidence, and
- 33:14Speaker 1: Acosta agrees to meet again with defense counsel. After reviewing
- 33:19Speaker 1: Starr in Lefkowitz letters, Sloman notified Villa Fauna that, in
- 33:22Speaker 1: light of the recent Kirkland and Ellis correspondence, he had
- 33:25Speaker 1: asked Robert Senior, who had succeeded Menchell as chief of
- 33:29Speaker 1: the usao's Criminal Division, to review di novo the evidence
- 33:33Speaker 1: underlying the proposed revised indictments, and Sloman asked Villa Fauna
- 33:37Speaker 1: to provide Signor or Senior with all the state and
- 33:40Speaker 1: FBI investigative materials. In the meantime, Acosta agreed to meet
- 33:46Speaker 1: with Starr and other Epstein defense attorneys to discuss the
- 33:49Speaker 1: defense complaints raised in left Kowitz December eleventh, two thousand
- 33:53Speaker 1: seven submissions. The meeting took place in Miami on December fourteenth,
- 33:57Speaker 1: two thousand seven. The defense team included Starr, Dershowitz, left Court,
- 34:01Speaker 1: and Boston attorney Martin Weinberg. The USAO side included Acosta, Sloman,
- 34:06Speaker 1: Villa Fauna, and another senior AUSA with the Miami FBI
- 34:10Speaker 1: Special Agent in Charge and Assistant Special Agent in Charge
- 34:14Speaker 1: also present. In addition to previously raised arguments. During this meeting,
- 34:19Speaker 1: Epstein's attorneys raised a new argument that the state charge
- 34:22Speaker 1: to which Epstein had agreed to plead guilty did not
- 34:25Speaker 1: apply to the facts of the case. All right, we're
- 34:28Speaker 1: going to wrap up this episode here, and in the
- 34:29Speaker 1: next episode, we're going to pick up with three. The
- 34:32Speaker 1: defense notifies Acosta that it may pursue a department review
- 34:36Speaker 1: of the usao's actions. All of the information that goes
- 34:39Speaker 1: with this episode can be found in the description box.
- 34:43Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein chronicles.
- 34:47Speaker 1: In this episode, we're getting right back to the OIG
- 34:49Speaker 1: report into the Jeffrey Epstein non prosecution agreement. Three. The
- 34:54Speaker 1: defense notifies Acosta that it may pursue a department review
- 34:58Speaker 1: of the usao's actions. Shortly after the December fourteenth, two
- 35:02Speaker 1: thousand and seven meeting left, Kuwitz notified Acosta that if
- 35:05Speaker 1: the issues raised at the meeting could not be resolved promptly,
- 35:09Speaker 1: the defense team may have no alternative but to seek
- 35:11Speaker 1: review in Washington. Acosta notified Assistant Attorney General Fisher that
- 35:16Speaker 1: the defense team might make an appeal tour, and he
- 35:19Speaker 1: asked to grant such a request for review to in fact,
- 35:23Speaker 1: review this case in an expedited matter in order to
- 35:26Speaker 1: preserve the January fourth plea deal star and Leftquwitz then
- 35:30Speaker 1: sent to Acosta a lengthy letter with numerous previously submitted
- 35:34Speaker 1: Defense submissions, reviewing issues discussed at the meeting and advising
- 35:39Speaker 1: that Epstein sought a prompt, independent, expedited review of the
- 35:43Speaker 1: evidence by you or someone you trust. The letter reiterated
- 35:46Speaker 1: Epstein's position that his conduct did not amount to a
- 35:50Speaker 1: registrable offense under state law or a violation of federal law,
- 35:55Speaker 1: and with respect to the NPA's Section twenty two to
- 35:58Speaker 1: fifty five provision, that it was a proper to require
- 36:00Speaker 1: Epstein to pay damages to individuals who do nothing but
- 36:04Speaker 1: simply assert a claim under the statute. Four. Acosta attempts
- 36:09Speaker 1: to revise the NPA Section twenty two to fifty five
- 36:12Speaker 1: language concerning monetary damages, but the Defense does not accept it.
- 36:16Speaker 1: Acosta undertook to respond to Defense Council's continuing concern about
- 36:21Speaker 1: the Section twenty two to fifty five provision. He sent
- 36:24Speaker 1: to Deputy Assistant Attorney General Sigel Mandelker language that he
- 36:28Speaker 1: proposed including in a revision to the NPA Section twenty
- 36:33Speaker 1: two to fifty five implementation section. Mandelker forwarded the language
- 36:37Speaker 1: to her counterpart in the Civil Division, who responded to
- 36:40Speaker 1: Mandulker and Acosta that he did not have any insight
- 36:43Speaker 1: to offer. On December ninth, two thousand and seven, after
- 36:46Speaker 1: Acosta and Sloman had a phone conversation with Star and Lefkowitz,
- 36:50Speaker 1: Acosta sent to Sanchez a letter proposing to resolve our
- 36:54Speaker 1: disagreements over interpretation by replacing the existing language of the
- 36:59Speaker 1: NPA relaying to section twenty two to fifty five with
- 37:02Speaker 1: a provision that would read, any person who, while a minor,
- 37:05Speaker 1: was a victim of a violation of an offense enumerated
- 37:08Speaker 1: in Title eighteen United States Code, Section twenty two to
- 37:12Speaker 1: fifty five will have the same rights to proceed under
- 37:15Speaker 1: Section twenty two to fifty five as she would have
- 37:17Speaker 1: had if mister Epstein had been tried federally and convicted
- 37:21Speaker 1: of enumerated offenses. For purposes of implementing this paragraph, the
- 37:25Speaker 1: United States shall provide mister Epstein's attorneys with a list
- 37:28Speaker 1: of individuals whom it was prepared to name as victims
- 37:32Speaker 1: of an enumerated offense by mister Epstein. Any judicial authority
- 37:37Speaker 1: interpreting this provision, including any authority determining which evidentiary burdens,
- 37:42Speaker 1: if any a plaintiff must meet, shall consider that it
- 37:46Speaker 1: is the intent of the parties to place these identified
- 37:49Speaker 1: victims in the same position as they would have been
- 37:52Speaker 1: had mister Epstein been convicted at trial. No more, no less.
- 37:57Speaker 1: Acosta also noted that he had resisted his prose Cocuter's
- 38:00Speaker 1: urging to declare the NPA breached by the defense delays.
- 38:04Speaker 1: Left Gowitz responded by letter a few days later, suggesting
- 38:07Speaker 1: that Acosta's proposal raise several troubling questions and that the
- 38:11Speaker 1: problem arises from the incongruity that exists when attempting to
- 38:15Speaker 1: fit a federal civil remedy statute into a criminal plea agreement.
- 38:20Speaker 1: In a follow up letter to Acosta to address the
- 38:22Speaker 1: usao's concern that Epstein was intentionally delaying the entry of
- 38:26Speaker 1: his guilty plea left Gowitz asserted that any impediment to
- 38:30Speaker 1: the resolution at issue is a direct cause of the
- 38:33Speaker 1: disagreements between the parties, and that Defense Council had at
- 38:37Speaker 1: all times made and will continue to make, sincere efforts
- 38:40Speaker 1: to resolve and finalize issues as expeditiously as possible. Acosta
- 38:45Speaker 1: told o PR that despite this assurance from the Defense Council,
- 38:49Speaker 1: he was increasingly frustrated by Epstein's desire to take an
- 38:52Speaker 1: eleventh hour appeal to the department soon before the scheduled
- 38:57Speaker 1: January fourth, two thousand and eight plea hearing. As soon
- 39:00Speaker 1: became apparent, Acosta was unable to achieve an expedited review
- 39:04Speaker 1: so that Epstein could plead guilty and be sentenced by
- 39:07Speaker 1: January fourth, two thousand and eight, and plea in sentencing
- 39:11Speaker 1: date was rescheduled. On January second, two thousand and eight,
- 39:14Speaker 1: Sloman spoke with Assistant State Attorney Bellehovlk, who confirmed that
- 39:19Speaker 1: the change of plea hearing had been postponed. In an
- 39:21Speaker 1: email reporting this to Acosta in Villafauna, Sloman said that
- 39:25Speaker 1: Epstein's local defense attorney, Goldberger, had told Bellehovlk the postponement
- 39:30Speaker 1: was because the facts did not fit the proposed date charge,
- 39:33Speaker 1: and that Bellohovlk told Sloman she agreed with that assessment.
- 39:37Speaker 1: The next day, Vilafauna sent to Acosta and Slowman a
- 39:40Speaker 1: local newspaper article reporting that Epstein's plea hearings was reset
- 39:45Speaker 1: for March, and in exchange for it, the federal authorities
- 39:48Speaker 1: would drop their investigation of them. Acosta also sent to
- 39:52Speaker 1: Slowman and Villafauna an email memorializing a statement made to
- 39:56Speaker 1: him by left Kowitz in a phone call that day
- 39:58Speaker 1: I left. Kowitz may have made a mistake. Six months ago,
- 40:02Speaker 1: Bellohovlik told us solicitation is not registrable. It turns out
- 40:06Speaker 1: that the actual offense charged is five. January seventh, two
- 40:11Speaker 1: thousand eight, Acosta and Slowman meet with Sanchez, who makes
- 40:14Speaker 1: additional allegations of USAO misconduct. On January seventh, two thousand eight,
- 40:20Speaker 1: Acosta and Sloman met with the defense attorney Sanchez at
- 40:24Speaker 1: her request. According to meeting notes made by Sloman, among
- 40:27Speaker 1: other things, Sanchez alleged that the usao's media spokesperson had
- 40:32Speaker 1: improperly disclosed details of the Epstein case to a national
- 40:35Speaker 1: news reporter, and Sanchez suggested that the USAO could avoid
- 40:39Speaker 1: any potential ugliness in DC by agreeing to a watered
- 40:43Speaker 1: down resolution for Epstein. After Acosta excused himself to attend
- 40:47Speaker 1: another meeting and Slowman refused to speak further with Sanchez
- 40:50Speaker 1: without a witness present she left. Later that day, Acosta
- 40:54Speaker 1: and Sloman spoke by phone with Star Leftquwitz, and Sanchez,
- 40:57Speaker 1: who expressed concern about the leak to the New Use media.
- 41:00Speaker 1: Reiterated their objections to the NPA and pressed for the
- 41:04Speaker 1: water down resolution, which they specified would mean allowing Epstein
- 41:08Speaker 1: to plead to a charge of coercion instead of procurement,
- 41:11Speaker 1: avoid serving jail time, and not register as a sexual offender.
- 41:15Speaker 1: A note in the margin of Sloman's handwritten notes of
- 41:18Speaker 1: the conversation reads were back to where we started in September.
- 41:22Speaker 1: That evening, Villa Fauna expressed concern that the delay in
- 41:26Speaker 1: resolving the matter was affecting the usao's ability to go
- 41:30Speaker 1: forward with a prosecution should Epstein renege on his agreement,
- 41:34Speaker 1: and she outlined for Acosta in Sloman the steps she
- 41:37Speaker 1: proposed to take while Epstein was pursuing departmental review. Those
- 41:41Speaker 1: steps included re establishing contact with victims, interviewing victims in
- 41:45Speaker 1: New York and one victim who lived in a foreign country,
- 41:48Speaker 1: making contact with potential sources of information in the Virgin Islands,
- 41:52Speaker 1: and reinitiating proceedings to obtain Epstein's computers in the meantime,
- 41:57Speaker 1: USAO Criminal Division Chief Rob Signor performed a soup to
- 42:02Speaker 1: nuts review of the Epstein investigation, reviewing the indictment package
- 42:06Speaker 1: and all of the evidence Villa Fauna had compiled. He
- 42:10Speaker 1: told OPR that he could not recall the reason for
- 42:12Speaker 1: his review, but opined that it was to establish whether,
- 42:16Speaker 1: if the plea fell apart, he is chief would agree
- 42:19Speaker 1: that we can go forward with the charges. He did
- 42:21Speaker 1: not recall being concerned after completing the review that we
- 42:25Speaker 1: did not have a lot of victims lined up already
- 42:28Speaker 1: that were ready to testify, and that some victims might
- 42:30Speaker 1: not be favorable for us. Nevertheless, he concluded that the
- 42:34Speaker 1: proposed charges were sound, and he told Acosta that he
- 42:37Speaker 1: would approve proceeding with a federal case. Six. Acosta asked
- 42:41Speaker 1: CEOs to review the evidence. Notwithstanding Signor's favorable review, Acosta
- 42:47Speaker 1: and Slowman and told Starr and Lefkowitz that they appreciated
- 42:51Speaker 1: that the defense wanted a fresh face to conduct a review,
- 42:54Speaker 1: and they noted that the criminal chief had not undertaken
- 42:57Speaker 1: the in depth work associated with issues raised by the defense.
- 43:01Speaker 1: They told the defense team that Acosta had asked CEOs
- 43:04Speaker 1: to come on board and that CEO's chief Osterbaonn would
- 43:07Speaker 1: designate an attorney having a national perspective to conduct a
- 43:11Speaker 1: fresh review in light of the defense submissions. Osterbon assigned
- 43:15Speaker 1: a CEO's trial attorney, whom Villa Fauna understood was to
- 43:19Speaker 1: review the case and prepare for trial in the event
- 43:21Speaker 1: Epstein did not consummate the NPA. The CEO's trial attorney
- 43:26Speaker 1: traveled to Florida to review the case materials and to
- 43:29Speaker 1: meet with Villa Fauna to discuss the case and interview
- 43:32Speaker 1: some of the victims. After one such meeting, Villa Fanna
- 43:35Speaker 1: wrote to a Costa and Sloman, we just interviewing three
- 43:38Speaker 1: of the girls. I wish you could have been here
- 43:40Speaker 1: to see how much this has affected them. One girl
- 43:43Speaker 1: broke down sobbing so that we had to stop the
- 43:45Speaker 1: interview twice within a twenty minute span. She regained her
- 43:48Speaker 1: composure to continue a short time, but she said that
- 43:51Speaker 1: she was having nightmares about Epstein coming after her, and
- 43:54Speaker 1: that she started to break down again, so we stopped
- 43:57Speaker 1: the interview. The second girl told us that she was
- 43:59Speaker 1: very upset about the eighteen month deal she had read
- 44:02Speaker 1: about in the paper. She said the eighteen months was nothing,
- 44:05Speaker 1: and that she had heard that the girls could get restitution,
- 44:08Speaker 1: but she would rather not get any money and have
- 44:11Speaker 1: Epstein spend a significant time in jail. These girls deserve
- 44:15Speaker 1: so much better than they have received so far, and
- 44:17Speaker 1: I hate feeling that there is nothing I can do
- 44:19Speaker 1: to help them. The CEO's trial attorney had substantial experience
- 44:24Speaker 1: prosecuting child exploitation cases. She told oh PR that, in
- 44:28Speaker 1: her view, the victim witnesses in this case presented a
- 44:30Speaker 1: number of challenges for a prosecution. Some of the victims
- 44:34Speaker 1: did not want to admit they had sexual contact with Epstein.
- 44:37Speaker 1: Some had recruited other victims to provide Epstein massages and
- 44:41Speaker 1: thus could have been charged as accomplices. Some had drug
- 44:44Speaker 1: histories and things like that. Some could appear to have
- 44:47Speaker 1: been complicit, and there is no evidence of physical violence
- 44:50Speaker 1: against the victims. She did not regard these victims issues
- 44:54Speaker 1: as insurmountable, but based on these alone, the cees trial
- 44:58Speaker 1: attorney considered a potential process secution of Epstein to be
- 45:01Speaker 1: a crapshoot. In addition, she told OPR that there were
- 45:04Speaker 1: novel legal issues in the case that also presented difficulties.
- 45:08Speaker 1: Although she believed these difficulties could be overcome shortly after
- 45:12Speaker 1: the CEO's trial attorney met with the victims. However, things
- 45:16Speaker 1: just stopped when Osterbaond instructed her to cease her involvement
- 45:20Speaker 1: in the case and CEOs engaged in the Criminal Division
- 45:23Speaker 1: review sought by Epstein's defense team. All Right, we're going
- 45:27Speaker 1: to wrap this episode up here, and in the next episode,
- 45:29Speaker 1: we're going to pick up where we left off with
- 45:31Speaker 1: Section nine February through June two thousand and eight. The
- 45:34Speaker 1: Department's review. All of the information that goes with this
- 45:38Speaker 1: episode can be found in the description box.