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- 0:05Speaker 1: All system's going clear the left up. What's up? Everyone?
- 0:37Speaker 1: Tyler Tamblin here aka Totag and Tambo back for another
- 0:41Speaker 1: edition of the Monday night football Showdown show here on
- 0:43Speaker 1: the Ship at Nation YouTube Station. Wrapping up Week fourteen,
- 0:47Speaker 1: We've got the Eagles at the Chargers, a ton of
- 0:49Speaker 1: news to break down, and this one we'll talk as
- 0:51Speaker 1: always through the captains, roster, construction, ownership, go through some
- 0:55Speaker 1: of our thoughts on fan duel at the end. Of course,
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- 1:08Speaker 1: We truly do appreciate it. Got title here with me
- 1:11Speaker 1: and hoopin gotta bring in my guy title first title
- 1:14Speaker 1: and Rio the Bash Brothers last night, fresh off the
- 1:18Speaker 1: latest flagshippers out there twenty one thousand dollars just under
- 1:21Speaker 1: but title what's going on? My man? Fun game last night?
- 1:24Speaker 1: Sweat right to the very end too.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely was right to the end, like most showdowns are.
- 1:29Speaker 2: I actually didn't even really watch the first half. I
- 1:31Speaker 2: watched the first two drives and I was like, all right,
- 1:33Speaker 2: I know how this game is gonna go two good
- 1:35Speaker 2: defenses slow. I'm like, I can just watch the second
- 1:38Speaker 2: half and that'll be enough for me. So got lucky,
- 1:41Speaker 2: like you always need to do. I'm not even gonna lie.
- 1:43Speaker 2: I actually think, in hindsight, with how many dupes there was,
- 1:46Speaker 2: I think it was a pretty bad team one or
- 1:50Speaker 2: five to one. With the underdog that's chopped twenty two times,
- 1:53Speaker 2: I definitely thought it'd be chopped last. Just looking at
- 1:55Speaker 2: the team again, you always take it lucky, but we're not.
- 1:59Speaker 2: We can't be results oriented. You always got to look
- 2:01Speaker 2: at it. I think like if I knew that team
- 2:03Speaker 2: had that many dukes going into it, I probably wouldn't
- 2:06Speaker 2: have played it. But yeah, good to be lucky. Ran
- 2:08Speaker 2: good at the end and looking to keep keep it
- 2:10Speaker 2: going for today.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Yeah, the best team. You gotta have the best team
- 2:13Speaker 1: to win, and that was the best team yesterday and
- 2:14Speaker 1: it got the job done. I think a lot of
- 2:16Speaker 1: the teams up there though. I was up there for
- 2:17Speaker 1: a minute and there was a lot of teams that
- 2:19Speaker 1: were thirty way chops. It was like the slate, the nature,
- 2:22Speaker 1: the way the game went, everything yesterday. But I don't
- 2:24Speaker 1: hope you were talking pre show. I'll bring you in,
- 2:26Speaker 1: my friend. It's a you know, finishing up week fourteen.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Always fun to do these shows here with the group.
- 2:30Speaker 1: But we were talking pre show about this Texans defense man,
- 2:33Speaker 1: and I even said last night in the discord. First
- 2:35Speaker 1: of all, yesterday quick note Title had the seven seven seven.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Anyone who watched our show, hey, it's a lucky day.
- 2:40Speaker 1: It came through in the evening. But then also finally
- 2:44Speaker 1: a team that just coached solid and out like the
- 2:46Speaker 1: end of the game, don't don't mess around, run the
- 2:49Speaker 1: thing three times. If you get a first down, even better,
- 2:51Speaker 1: but if not, just get in that range, get your
- 2:54Speaker 1: kicker set up for the easy shot, and then be
- 2:56Speaker 1: end with it.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:56Speaker 1: So, but what do you think Coop.
- 2:59Speaker 3: Having the main takeaway just in regards to the game. Obviously,
- 3:03Speaker 3: congratulations to Title it in Rio for getting the job done,
- 3:06Speaker 3: but that just the game standpoint man that Texas Texan. Yeah,
- 3:11Speaker 3: Texans defense is very good, and we're talking pre show
- 3:15Speaker 3: like probably one of the better defenses I've seen in
- 3:18Speaker 3: a while, like in the NFL in terms of dominance,
- 3:21Speaker 3: and yeah, you can say whatever you want about about
- 3:23Speaker 3: the Chiefs, and maybe they're on their way out. The
- 3:25Speaker 3: dynasty might be over, but they still have Patrick Mahomes,
- 3:28Speaker 3: they still have for she Rice, they still have Xavier Worthy.
- 3:31Speaker 3: Kelsey's still been somewhat productive and they just stomp their
- 3:35Speaker 3: ass and said you're not doing shit today, and that's
- 3:37Speaker 3: basically what happens. So it'd be interesting. And with everything
- 3:41Speaker 3: being wide open in the NFL again, we talked about
- 3:43Speaker 3: there's no like dominant team like it's it's open. Anyone
- 3:47Speaker 3: that makes the playoffs this years seems like, I mean,
- 3:48Speaker 3: there might be a couple outliers, but for the most
- 3:50Speaker 3: part of majority of teams that make the playoffs, I
- 3:53Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if they made a run at the
- 3:55Speaker 3: whole thing. And there's gonna be some like if the
- 3:57Speaker 3: Steelers get in. I think the Steelers are drawing absolutely
- 4:00Speaker 3: like they're not going to be one of those teams,
- 4:02Speaker 3: but probably say, at this point, anyone else, I wouldn't
- 4:05Speaker 3: be surprised if they made run. And it says it
- 4:08Speaker 3: makes it so good for sports when there's parody like
- 4:10Speaker 3: that in the leagues, and it makes it exciting, so
- 4:13Speaker 3: it should be a fun run here through the Super Bowl.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't get that across all sports anymore. We
- 4:19Speaker 1: teased it before the show, but just you'll break it
- 4:21Speaker 1: down with like Baseball and you know, the longer seasons NBA,
- 4:24Speaker 1: some of the super teams all that, everyone roots and
- 4:26Speaker 1: cheers for whatever they please, but at the end of
- 4:28Speaker 1: the day, you don't always get this crazy wide open scenario.
- 4:31Speaker 1: We don't even get in the NFL every year, but
- 4:32Speaker 1: typically there's teams that can show up on any given
- 4:34Speaker 1: week and we get some great football because of it,
- 4:36Speaker 1: so makes it for a lot of fun. We still
- 4:38Speaker 1: got a ton of tons of football ahead. We've got
- 4:39Speaker 1: two weeks left of ship at Games. You guys can
- 4:42Speaker 1: go to ship at games dot com and check it
- 4:43Speaker 1: out if you want to get in at the Nation.
- 4:45Speaker 1: All the codes are still valid. We put some pricing
- 4:47Speaker 1: changes up on the site. Go to ship at Nation
- 4:49Speaker 1: dot com slash join check it out, and we'll go
- 4:51Speaker 1: through all of that at a future date, just to
- 4:53Speaker 1: break it down even further. But title kick it to
- 4:55Speaker 1: you man, Grand Scheme Overview. Yes, there was a big
- 4:57Speaker 1: day for the Nation. Before we get to the Grand
- 4:59Speaker 1: sche over you're just putting it up on the board here,
- 5:01Speaker 1: but yourself and Rio, we're just a part of that.
- 5:03Speaker 1: We had Jonesy finished seventh in the twenty dollars million
- 5:06Speaker 1: Maker with the James Cook double goal line fumble scenarios.
- 5:10Speaker 1: That was kind of brutal. We had t Jones two
- 5:12Speaker 1: hundred bucks into six thousand, Doug Craig turning seven thousand
- 5:15Speaker 1: into thirty six hundred and eight positive ROI weeks this
- 5:18Speaker 1: season so far having a really good season, said, my
- 5:21Speaker 1: brain fights to overcomplicate the game. You guys, streamline it,
- 5:24Speaker 1: keep doing what you do. So love hearing that kind
- 5:26Speaker 1: of makes a lot of sense if you can put
- 5:27Speaker 1: it all together. Shwank Bob. I think it was five
- 5:30Speaker 1: dollars into seven fifty and then Krish went on a
- 5:35Speaker 1: run in the one hundred and fifty dollars three max
- 5:36Speaker 1: fourth for ten. Get k nads and I reviewed it
- 5:39Speaker 1: this morning. The sder Sanders was really popping in the
- 5:42Speaker 1: stack rankings, and I know that's not for everybody, but
- 5:45Speaker 1: if you did plug that in, like you could just
- 5:47Speaker 1: fit the natural stuff around it. Puka with Wilson, you're
- 5:50Speaker 1: already different at that. You get like their James Cook
- 5:52Speaker 1: and just suck it up that he had a bad game.
- 5:54Speaker 1: But you get Josh Jacobs another, you can get like
- 5:58Speaker 1: Watson in there, and then an expensive defense and have
- 6:00Speaker 1: a pretty good lineup that scored well. So all good things.
- 6:03Speaker 1: What's your your grand scheme? Over you here for tonight title?
- 6:05Speaker 1: We got Eagles at the Chargers to get right into it.
- 6:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Schadur stuff was crazy. I gotta say,
- 6:11Speaker 2: I love the decisions to go for two on your
- 6:13Speaker 2: first one. You trust yourself to at least get one,
- 6:16Speaker 2: maybe two. But I hate the decision to take Shadur
- 6:19Speaker 2: Sanders off the field when the game's on the line
- 6:22Speaker 2: two point and pretty much tell the defense what you're doing.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Should are absolutely balled out taking him off the field
- 6:27Speaker 2: going wildcay with junkins. I know someone posted the discord
- 6:30Speaker 2: the play would have worked like it was well executed
- 6:33Speaker 2: or it was poorly executed, well designed. I just couldn't
- 6:36Speaker 2: imagine taking him off the field after the game he had.
- 6:39Speaker 2: But just another week we can bash coaches and their decisions.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Andy Reid punt or going forward on that fourth and
- 6:46Speaker 2: one and a half was absolutely brutal in the defensive
- 6:48Speaker 2: game as well, but grand scheme overview, it's an eagle slate,
- 6:52Speaker 2: and eagle slates mean pretty much no value at all.
- 6:55Speaker 2: I think that's kind of what we're looking at today,
- 6:57Speaker 2: the more middling stuff, the kickers, the defenses, Dallas Goddter
- 7:01Speaker 2: five point four k, I don't know, even not even
- 7:06Speaker 2: Trey Harris really, but like when you go down to value,
- 7:08Speaker 2: there's really no one Johan Dotson three K, Trey Harris,
- 7:11Speaker 2: like I said, three to two, will Shipley, tank Bigsby,
- 7:15Speaker 2: Grant Helk and Tara Like, there's really not many options,
- 7:18Speaker 2: which leads me to thinking some middling captains are definitely
- 7:21Speaker 2: viable on this slate. And then when we're talking about
- 7:23Speaker 2: the cheap punts, like what do you want from Dotson?
- 7:26Speaker 2: Is a chance Shipley getting five is enough? I don't know.
- 7:30Speaker 2: Like we saw Dari and Goombuwala yesterday get in the
- 7:32Speaker 2: box and it wasn't enough on that slate, But for
- 7:34Speaker 2: this would that be enough at one k? It's possible.
- 7:38Speaker 2: So I think there's pretty much no value on the slate.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Obvious studs to spend on. But Herbert spreads the ball
- 7:45Speaker 2: like obviously has broken hand. Expect a lot of shotgun.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Hampton's coming back today. Him and Vidal are gonna be
- 7:52Speaker 2: mixing and matching, so there's at least options when you
- 7:54Speaker 2: do spend up. But yeah, I'm struggling with a value
- 7:57Speaker 2: down below.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Yeah, so we just had that Dallas where there wasn't
- 8:00Speaker 1: much value on it and it ended up being like
- 8:02Speaker 1: you could play anybody download to try and make stuff fit.
- 8:05Speaker 1: It end up being Floor Noy who you needed. But
- 8:07Speaker 1: that was a little I mean, it all depends on
- 8:09Speaker 1: what you think happens with his Eagle side of the ball,
- 8:10Speaker 1: because the expensive guys are Jalen, hurt Sey, Kwon Barkley,
- 8:14Speaker 1: AJ Brown and then of course you got Lad on
- 8:16Speaker 1: the other side. But after that it does kind of
- 8:17Speaker 1: middle off. I guess you could say DeVonta Smith up
- 8:20Speaker 1: there at eighty four hundred or twelve six at the captain,
- 8:23Speaker 1: But yeah, it depends and then coach that, Yeah, Carter's
- 8:26Speaker 1: been out for four days talking about Jalen Carter for
- 8:29Speaker 1: the Eagles, so there's a big conversation to be had
- 8:31Speaker 1: there hoop tonight just around when we get to it.
- 8:34Speaker 1: But I mean, it can be part of your grand
- 8:35Speaker 1: scheme O review because the main thing is Omarion Hampton
- 8:38Speaker 1: is back. He was good. I think it was kind
- 8:41Speaker 1: of good, they said, like a week ago, but they
- 8:43Speaker 1: held him out another week just to see. I know,
- 8:44Speaker 1: this week he finally got into like the blue jersey
- 8:47Speaker 1: to go read about what that means. It's like he's
- 8:49Speaker 1: ready to go at practice. So it's like he's definitely
- 8:51Speaker 1: coming back. What we would expect to be maybe hoop,
- 8:54Speaker 1: like a Bucky Irving situation where when he first came
- 8:56Speaker 1: back the first yason, we're gonna give it a go.
- 8:58Speaker 1: If he's good, we go with it. But I don't know,
- 8:59Speaker 1: maybe maybe you see it a little bit differently and
- 9:01Speaker 1: can help us guide through it. What do you think
- 9:02Speaker 1: it for the grand scheme over you here?
- 9:05Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of a tough one just from the
- 9:08Speaker 3: perspective no value. I mean, these teams are pretty straightforward,
- 9:12Speaker 3: like what you see is what you get, and they're
- 9:15Speaker 3: not going to do bring in like random guys for
- 9:18Speaker 3: big plays. Like the Eagles offenses, it's been bad, you know,
- 9:22Speaker 3: the offense over all, but it's consolidated in the Chargers.
- 9:27Speaker 3: I wouldn't necessarily say like consolidated, but like the pieces
- 9:30Speaker 3: are the pieces they're going to use the two running backs,
- 9:32Speaker 3: they have the three wide receivers, and then Gatson has
- 9:36Speaker 3: emerged as the you know, top tight end and a
- 9:38Speaker 3: really legitimate tight end. So like, it's very difficult when
- 9:43Speaker 3: it comes to roster construction. I think people are going
- 9:46Speaker 3: to be forced to more mid tier sort of builds,
- 9:49Speaker 3: maybe for that reason because the value is bad. I guess,
- 9:52Speaker 3: you know. The one the one important talking point is
- 9:55Speaker 3: what does a build look like? And you know, we
- 9:58Speaker 3: talk about this quite a bit. Where one of these
- 10:00Speaker 3: cheap guys gets like four or five and is on
- 10:02Speaker 3: the optimal suit. So if you're going that route, you
- 10:04Speaker 3: have to envision what sort of build it is and
- 10:08Speaker 3: the build that it is. It's like five guys you
- 10:12Speaker 3: have very solid fantasy games, and then none of them
- 10:14Speaker 3: go off. So you're looking for like five guys to
- 10:17Speaker 3: probably be around like I don't know, twenty twenty one,
- 10:21Speaker 3: eighteen to twenty three, Okay, somewhere in that range where
- 10:24Speaker 3: five really good fantasy performances but none of them go
- 10:27Speaker 3: off and then you just need a cheap guy to
- 10:29Speaker 3: bring it all together and make it work. So that's
- 10:31Speaker 3: the sort of build that you're looking for. If you're
- 10:34Speaker 3: just gonna play a value guy and hope he does something.
- 10:38Speaker 3: But we haven't seen a lot of that, you know,
- 10:40Speaker 3: the previous years, there hasn't been much of that. I mean, yes,
- 10:43Speaker 3: it'll pop up here and there, and it used to
- 10:45Speaker 3: pop up more when salaries were a little higher and
- 10:49Speaker 3: pricing was tighter, but it's just not really the case anymore.
- 10:53Speaker 3: So I don't really like those builds at all. I
- 10:57Speaker 3: think you just got to look within these plays on
- 10:59Speaker 3: roster can instruction. Are you going to play five ones?
- 11:01Speaker 3: Are you gonna play four twos? Are you gonna you know,
- 11:05Speaker 3: v Dal is a big talking point tonight because he's
- 11:07Speaker 3: seventy four hundred, he has a real price tag, and
- 11:10Speaker 3: Hampton is going to be number one most likely, but
- 11:13Speaker 3: it's going to be some sort of split. So you know,
- 11:16Speaker 3: the main thing for me is like not even lack
- 11:19Speaker 3: of value. I'd say, like no value, Like there's nothing
- 11:22Speaker 3: on this slate in terms of value. And that's like
- 11:23Speaker 3: the main part of the slate today.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Yeah, and typically when that happens, I mean, it's it
- 11:29Speaker 1: always comes down to this, but I think in general,
- 11:31Speaker 1: it's the captain decisions that you make, which we'll get
- 11:33Speaker 1: to in a second, it's the roster construction as a whole.
- 11:36Speaker 1: It's the again, this is like Title always says that
- 11:39Speaker 1: you need luck to get it done. It's like the
- 11:41Speaker 1: luck is it Aj Brown or Devanta Smith? And you
- 11:43Speaker 1: left the right amount of money and decided to go
- 11:45Speaker 1: to Smith and it was his game instead of AJ Brown's.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Is it v doll Over Hampton for four hundred bucks less? Like,
- 11:50Speaker 1: there's a lot of decisions like that on this light.
- 11:53Speaker 1: Is it QJ? Is it Allen? Or is it mconkie?
- 11:56Speaker 1: And you start from McConkey and work your way backwards.
- 11:58Speaker 1: So it's like, I do think it is going to
- 12:00Speaker 1: come down to more of that. There is some you know,
- 12:02Speaker 1: unique things that you can do in some of these
- 12:04Speaker 1: cheaper guys to maybe make five of the big dogs
- 12:06Speaker 1: fit if you want to hope that it goes that way.
- 12:08Speaker 1: But Title, I'll go back to you. I'll let you
- 12:10Speaker 1: take the captain thoughts first. Anything else from what Hoop
- 12:13Speaker 1: said that you want to add on to, or just
- 12:15Speaker 1: anything in general from a roster construction. Standboy, the chat's
- 12:17Speaker 1: already talking a little bit about things, But just get
- 12:19Speaker 1: your your final thoughts and then going to your captains.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Yeah, not really much like a three threes will be
- 12:25Speaker 2: played four twos on both sides. I think five ones
- 12:28Speaker 2: will be contrarian, kind of like most slates are. But
- 12:31Speaker 2: I'm struggling at captain. I'm really like making a stand.
- 12:34Speaker 2: I'm gonna be playing a lot of teams and I
- 12:36Speaker 2: see myself playing a lot of captains at the end
- 12:38Speaker 2: of the day. Part of that has to do with
- 12:39Speaker 2: just again the lack of value and stuff. I think
- 12:42Speaker 2: my playerpool will be a little more condensed than usual
- 12:44Speaker 2: since I don't want the calcan teras and stuff, and
- 12:47Speaker 2: again the broad slid. I know I touched on Kickers D,
- 12:49Speaker 2: but like the combined ownership on all four twenty two
- 12:53Speaker 2: percent Elliott twenty three percent, Eagles D twenty five Kickers
- 12:57Speaker 2: seventeen Chargers of the four spots, like that might be
- 12:59Speaker 2: the most ownership we've seen are close to it combined,
- 13:03Speaker 2: And again that just shows people don't really want to
- 13:05Speaker 2: go all the way to the lower tier, which brings
- 13:08Speaker 2: me to captain and just like I want to find
- 13:11Speaker 2: middling captains like the Goddards of the world. I really
- 13:15Speaker 2: don't love Goddard though he's fine, It's just man these
- 13:18Speaker 2: older Dustier tight ends, it feels like just aren't getting
- 13:21Speaker 2: the job done as much. I prefer Smith or AJ Brown,
- 13:24Speaker 2: Gatson I like a lot. He's the cheap or the
- 13:26Speaker 2: middle tight end, cheap or cheap captain that I do
- 13:29Speaker 2: think has a lot of upside. So he's one of
- 13:32Speaker 2: my favorites. At ownership, we're showing six percent. The receiving
- 13:35Speaker 2: room for the Chargers is tough. All them oh lads
- 13:38Speaker 2: eight percent. That's a little high, but QJ three, Keenan
- 13:42Speaker 2: Allen three, they'll be in the pool. But the props
- 13:46Speaker 2: are tough, especially a team that wants to run the
- 13:49Speaker 2: football first. And they get now Hampton and Vidal, so
- 13:52Speaker 2: they could really pound the football and just keep rotating
- 13:55Speaker 2: those guys if they want. I'm struggling with the charter
- 13:57Speaker 2: side more than the Eagles. Outside of Gatson, I think
- 14:00Speaker 2: Saquon Hurts, AJ Brown, Smith gats In are my favorites.
- 14:04Speaker 2: Eagles offenses look terrible, but like you said, at least
- 14:06Speaker 2: we know it's condensed. Let's just hope it's just AJ
- 14:09Speaker 2: Brown or just Smith or just Saquon. I don't really
- 14:12Speaker 2: know if I have leans with them. I really don't
- 14:16Speaker 2: think I do it all, I see Brown and Smith
- 14:17Speaker 2: half the ownership. Maybe a Saquon Hurts, so I'll go
- 14:20Speaker 2: that way if I had to choose. But I see
- 14:22Speaker 2: myself playing a lot of captains, the last one Herbert.
- 14:25Speaker 2: I definitely want to play some Herbert because he could
- 14:27Speaker 2: throw three touchdowns today to three different people very easily
- 14:30Speaker 2: or for the Only problem is he doesn't really have
- 14:33Speaker 2: any rushing touched on the upside. The QB sneaks like
- 14:36Speaker 2: with his hand. I don't know how much he'll be
- 14:38Speaker 2: under center, and that takes away a little of my appeal.
- 14:42Speaker 2: But yeah, it's really really tough for me. I think
- 14:44Speaker 2: I do know I prefer Egle stuff over Chargers because
- 14:46Speaker 2: I feel like it's more condensed.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Though yeah, I like that call too. I also think
- 14:49Speaker 1: there's some interest to just the thought process that I
- 14:52Speaker 1: hear a lot of people to talk about the same thing,
- 14:53Speaker 1: the Jalen Carter thing, the running backs, Herbert's hand, etc.
- 14:56Speaker 1: We'll get to all that when we go to the positions,
- 14:58Speaker 1: and even in the Captain of Toppling just hit on
- 15:00Speaker 1: some of it, but just noting like the Eagles play calling.
- 15:03Speaker 1: They've they've been getting shit on all season for this
- 15:06Speaker 1: and then the the news over the week has been
- 15:08Speaker 1: that like they're gonna keep Patula, which they did, but
- 15:10Speaker 1: they're gonna move it to a little bit more of
- 15:13Speaker 1: Sirianni making some of these calls and maybe switching it up.
- 15:15Speaker 1: I don't know if they will, but.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Has that been an upgrade. I've seen Sirianni make some
- 15:19Speaker 2: dumb ass decisions in terms of I mean him going
- 15:22Speaker 2: forward against the Packers almost at midfield of twenty five. Again,
- 15:26Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't I don't know.
- 15:27Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I don't think it can get worse,
- 15:29Speaker 1: but it can happen with stay equals. So it's like, yeah,
- 15:32Speaker 1: that's the problem. But on any given game, I definitely
- 15:34Speaker 1: think it's at least somewhat interesting if they do come
- 15:37Speaker 1: out and kind of click together. I think people forget too,
- 15:40Speaker 1: Like it wasn't quite this time last year when everyone
- 15:42Speaker 1: was all over the Eagles and complaining about others. There's
- 15:45Speaker 1: always something to complain about with the Eagles and these
- 15:47Speaker 1: these big city teams that people love and cheer for,
- 15:49Speaker 1: and then like the Eagles turned it around completely and
- 15:51Speaker 1: then ended up going on the run all the way
- 15:54Speaker 1: onto winning the Super Bowl. So just you know, it
- 15:56Speaker 1: wasn't the same situation Hoop, But there's definitely a team
- 15:59Speaker 1: here that can turn things around. They have a good offense.
- 16:01Speaker 1: It's just can they put it together and roll it
- 16:03Speaker 1: out here? And it just depends on how you see
- 16:05Speaker 1: this game playing out. But what's your thoughts when you're
- 16:07Speaker 1: thinking of the captain spot up top tonight?
- 16:10Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in regards to the Eagle stuff, keep
- 16:12Speaker 3: saying it, and I still think it's true. I mean,
- 16:14Speaker 3: they won the Super Bowl last year, and you see
- 16:16Speaker 3: a lot of times like these teams will have that
- 16:18Speaker 3: hangover into the next season, but like there's still I
- 16:23Speaker 3: think a good team. I still think they're gonna turn
- 16:25Speaker 3: it around at some point offensively, and I think they
- 16:28Speaker 3: have a chance to make a run again again this year.
- 16:32Speaker 3: So I am I guess optimistic that they can find
- 16:36Speaker 3: something offensively down the stretch. They have the pieces, they
- 16:40Speaker 3: have the talent In terms of the slate tonight, Yeah,
- 16:44Speaker 3: I mean it's much cleaner on the Eagle side in
- 16:46Speaker 3: terms of the captain like Hurts, Barkley, AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith,
- 16:51Speaker 3: and then you know, maybe some Dallas Goddard if you want,
- 16:54Speaker 3: Like I always am in for some Goddard, so I
- 16:57Speaker 3: will you know, I like to narrow it down as
- 17:01Speaker 3: much as possible, but it is a tough slate to
- 17:03Speaker 3: really narrow it down. I mean, it could come from anywhere,
- 17:06Speaker 3: Like it's no strong lean on who does it for
- 17:08Speaker 3: the Eagles, Like it could be any of the main guys,
- 17:11Speaker 3: and then maybe even Goddard as well. So like it's
- 17:15Speaker 3: all goes to how many teams are playing. Obviously, if
- 17:17Speaker 3: you're playing, the more teams you play, the easier it
- 17:20Speaker 3: is to play a bunch of different captains. If you're
- 17:24Speaker 3: making one or two or three teams, then yeah, you're
- 17:27Speaker 3: gonna have to make some more difficult decisions. But for
- 17:30Speaker 3: the MMME people, it's easier. And again to me, if
- 17:33Speaker 3: I was playing and I have an allocated bank role,
- 17:37Speaker 3: I would go down in stakes in order to play
- 17:39Speaker 3: more teams tonight. That's my opinion. I don't want to
- 17:42Speaker 3: make the decisions up top because it's difficult, like I
- 17:45Speaker 3: don't know, like we do this stuff for a living,
- 17:48Speaker 3: and to me, it's very hard to narrow down like
- 17:51Speaker 3: who I want to play up top. So again, playing
- 17:54Speaker 3: one point fifty much easier to have that standpoint I
- 17:57Speaker 3: would drop stakes and play more teams be for that reason.
- 18:02Speaker 3: But yeah, in on those Eagles guys, it's the main guys,
- 18:05Speaker 3: and then on the Chargers side, definitely a little more difficult.
- 18:09Speaker 3: I am worried with the Herbert Captain stuff, just because
- 18:14Speaker 3: there has to be some limitations, like he doesn't run
- 18:18Speaker 3: a ton, but like I can't imagine him taking off,
- 18:21Speaker 3: and you know, the game plan is gonna be for
- 18:23Speaker 3: him not to take off. They're probably gonna try to run.
- 18:27Speaker 3: They saw the success the Bears had last week. They're
- 18:29Speaker 3: gonna probably try to run it a lot. So I'm
- 18:32Speaker 3: more worried, definitely with the Charger side of things. I
- 18:35Speaker 3: don't love Herbert, you know, I'm always a Keenan Allen guy,
- 18:39Speaker 3: but he had a hot start to the season and
- 18:41Speaker 3: then just you know nothing. I guess my favorites on
- 18:44Speaker 3: the Chargers side would be I don't know, I guess Gadson,
- 18:50Speaker 3: lad and then Quintin Johnson, probably in that order. Lad Gadson,
- 18:55Speaker 3: then I think Quintin's probably a little bit of a
- 18:58Speaker 3: not distant third, but definitely it's Ladin, gats In one A,
- 19:02Speaker 3: one B and then and then Quintin. After that, you
- 19:05Speaker 3: know more boom bus or to play, but ego songs
- 19:08Speaker 3: definitely easier. And like, just to wrap it up, I
- 19:10Speaker 3: said it a few times, but if you're playing for
- 19:12Speaker 3: a certain amount, I'd try to drop stakes and play
- 19:14Speaker 3: more teams today for that reason.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Yeah, and title said it and his stuff and it
- 19:17Speaker 1: ties together perfectly what you said. But but just for
- 19:19Speaker 1: those not you know again, like so everybody does this
- 19:22Speaker 1: or wants to figure it all out and put it
- 19:23Speaker 1: all together, but those here most likely do. So the
- 19:25Speaker 1: thought process would be, you're gonna you have to. It
- 19:28Speaker 1: starts with the captain. That's why we start with the captain.
- 19:30Speaker 1: You got to get that right. If you only have
- 19:32Speaker 1: one lineup tonight and your captain is wrong, it's bedtime early.
- 19:34Speaker 1: If you see, if you don't have Barkley and he
- 19:36Speaker 1: runs a touchdown in right away and already has forty
- 19:38Speaker 1: on the ground, doesn't mean he's gonna be what's needed.
- 19:40Speaker 1: But whatever you have is now behind as second quarter hits,
- 19:43Speaker 1: and so then you're just gonna make oh, I'm done.
- 19:45Speaker 1: If you can get your quarter. If you have a
- 19:46Speaker 1: portfolio and you can get more captains, then you're gonna
- 19:49Speaker 1: have more outs to get the captain, right, which means
- 19:51Speaker 1: you're then gonna have more outs to whatever is the
- 19:52Speaker 1: optimal lineup at the end of the night. And yes
- 19:54Speaker 1: it takes a lot more pieces than just the captain,
- 19:56Speaker 1: but that's the starting points. On Hoop's point, no problem
- 19:59Speaker 1: going down in stakes. I do want to really quickly
- 20:03Speaker 1: do this for our guy. Man. This is this is
- 20:05Speaker 1: awesome news. Love to see this. So Naids and I
- 20:06Speaker 1: just broke this down this morning, and I would assume
- 20:10Speaker 1: this is where's he at here? Man, just got to
- 20:12Speaker 1: bring this up, you see, Nick? Yeah, right there, Yeah,
- 20:18Speaker 1: you got it, Nick, Thank you. I don't know how
- 20:19Speaker 1: I lost some movie. I'm assuming this is the Sheriff
- 20:21Speaker 1: ninety nine because I know Fantas Sin is my guy
- 20:24Speaker 1: Gillom and sky Hook is sky Hook Skyler Hope from
- 20:27Speaker 1: from ETR who does all the ownership stuff for PGA.
- 20:30Speaker 1: But the Sheriff it was a one hundred and fifty.
- 20:32Speaker 1: I know it shows two under one undred, but just
- 20:34Speaker 1: so people see it, it was one ninety two point twenty four,
- 20:36Speaker 1: two completely different lineups. Not a duke, but shut up
- 20:39Speaker 1: to the sheriff one hundred and fifty, K said got
- 20:41Speaker 1: in via satellite thanks tambeau Hoop entitled the crew, So
- 20:44Speaker 1: we appreciate your man and congrats to you. Very nice.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Got in with the Josh Allen Dalton Kincaid, got the
- 20:50Speaker 1: Nikua Wilson secondary stack, got the Jacobs Luther Burden secondary stack,
- 20:55Speaker 1: and then got the meal with the defense and it
- 20:59Speaker 1: landed on Jacoby Meyers on some of those the injuries
- 21:03Speaker 1: stuff there. So I mean, that's great man, Just congrats
- 21:05Speaker 1: to you and off a satellite, very very impressive. Love
- 21:08Speaker 1: to see that stuff.
- 21:09Speaker 2: What was second and third place? Do you know what
- 21:11Speaker 2: the payouts is for second and third?
- 21:13Speaker 1: It was two hundred one hundred. That's why he got
- 21:16Speaker 1: right like the two hundred here and it was chopped.
- 21:20Speaker 2: I just can't, man, like, right on the dot to
- 21:22Speaker 2: two decimals point two four with different teams as wild
- 21:25Speaker 2: for one hundred d it's not I mean, that's that's crazy.
- 21:29Speaker 2: I mean, just yeah, congrass what a team though correlated.
- 21:34Speaker 1: Man, So yeah, I guess like Stafford getting those points
- 21:36Speaker 1: down the stretch, but they both had Jacob's scoring. Man,
- 21:40Speaker 1: he really needed Luther Burden to catch Upplin touchdown or
- 21:44Speaker 1: something that would have been I don't think. Yeah, no, offense.
- 21:46Speaker 2: Literally one yard. That's wild, Like this game is crazy.
- 21:51Speaker 1: No, that was awesome, man, I mean anyway off off
- 21:53Speaker 1: of a satellite, phenomenal, phenomenal stuff. You just love to
- 21:55Speaker 1: see it. That's what it's all about. Like what who's
- 21:57Speaker 1: talking about there? You know, go down in stakes to
- 21:59Speaker 1: win up in stakes. You got to, you know, play
- 22:01Speaker 1: some satellites for lower dollars, win into the bigger tournaments,
- 22:04Speaker 1: and then take on the forty four to forty four.
- 22:07Speaker 1: So yeah, he said, thanks, such an awesome sweat. I
- 22:09Speaker 1: bet yeah, that's awesome, man. I can't imagine I needed
- 22:12Speaker 1: Loveland and he did end up getting the touchdown. It
- 22:14Speaker 1: still didn't get me all the way to what I needed,
- 22:16Speaker 1: but it was like, okay, I didn't. You never know
- 22:18Speaker 1: if somebody else is out there sweating, and how big
- 22:20Speaker 1: of a difference that Luther Burden stuff would have been.
- 22:23Speaker 1: I will hit my thoughts quickly and then we'll go
- 22:25Speaker 1: back to you title on just the other stuff with
- 22:27Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and stuff. But I said in the discord earlier,
- 22:30Speaker 1: I guess I have a few things. One would be
- 22:32Speaker 1: it is showdown. So playing both the running backs together
- 22:34Speaker 1: way more viable, certainly, and if it's a split and
- 22:37Speaker 1: all that, but at the end of the day, it
- 22:38Speaker 1: still is a split. If Hampton and if you think
- 22:40Speaker 1: it's a split, I should say between Hampton and Vidal,
- 22:43Speaker 1: there's that's one side of the coin for certain. But
- 22:46Speaker 1: I think like everyone just ought to assumes that Jalen
- 22:48Speaker 1: Carter out boom, these guys are gonna run all over them.
- 22:51Speaker 1: That could happen Hardbob should be smart and run the
- 22:54Speaker 1: ball and try and keep it out of the hands
- 22:56Speaker 1: of the Eagles. All these things are shoulds, coulds woods,
- 22:59Speaker 1: but they might not have happened, like if the Eagles
- 23:00Speaker 1: get out of head and if the Herbert hand issue,
- 23:03Speaker 1: you know, not under center as much. Different things like that.
- 23:05Speaker 1: All these factors could affect that and there could actually
- 23:09Speaker 1: end up being a scenario where they're playing from behind,
- 23:11Speaker 1: they need to pass the ball a lot more. And
- 23:13Speaker 1: on the Eagle side when you have Hurtz or Barkley,
- 23:16Speaker 1: aj Brown, DeVonta Smith, Goddard, like we said, how condensed
- 23:19Speaker 1: it is, that could just lead to that build being
- 23:22Speaker 1: the spot. And I will say, I don't know if
- 23:24Speaker 1: it was this exact line title in the Super Bowl,
- 23:26Speaker 1: what was the line in the Super Bowl for the
- 23:28Speaker 1: Eagles versus.
- 23:29Speaker 2: We're worthy Mahomes Eagles defense Elliott.
- 23:32Speaker 1: No no, no, sorry. My friend and I would normally
- 23:39Speaker 1: a yeah, we got it. There the line for betting,
- 23:42Speaker 1: Yeah you got it. The line was three something I think,
- 23:43Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, I remember Everyone's like, oh
- 23:45Speaker 1: the chief chief Chiefs And it was like.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I was saying Chiefs. Who was saying Chiefs? You
- 23:49Speaker 2: were all over Eagles. You just one mistake you made
- 23:52Speaker 2: was just exing every Chiefs captain even though you had
- 23:55Speaker 2: it all right.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Yeah. The nice part about that if you bet, if
- 23:58Speaker 3: you bet the game and bet the eaves and I
- 24:00Speaker 3: put a little on it, it's like like there was
- 24:02Speaker 3: never a doubt, like you knew you were losing, like
- 24:04Speaker 3: right away. So it made it made it easy.
- 24:08Speaker 4: Okay the second quarter, I was like I was watching,
- 24:13Speaker 4: but like, but Tampa, it's a good point that, like
- 24:15Speaker 4: you said, like Charger can come in thinking they're gonna
- 24:18Speaker 4: run the ball and want to run the ball, but it's.
- 24:19Speaker 3: Like, what's what's that saying? Like everyone has everyone has
- 24:22Speaker 3: a plan until they get punched in the face, man,
- 24:24Speaker 3: And that's applicable to everything in life. Like you can
- 24:28Speaker 3: have a game plan, you know, put in a ton
- 24:30Speaker 3: of time, a ton of effort, ton of analysis, and
- 24:33Speaker 3: then that shit goes out the window when you get
- 24:35Speaker 3: punched in the face.
- 24:36Speaker 1: I do think, like Justin Herbert, someone say his face
- 24:38Speaker 1: is very punishable. Harba's on in Jim. I mean definitely
- 24:42Speaker 1: people would say those faces are punishable.
- 24:44Speaker 3: You got to say, though, man, Jim Harbaugh, nice nice
- 24:48Speaker 3: ass dude. So I tell you the story when his
- 24:51Speaker 3: son was playing baseball in the same tournament. My son
- 24:53Speaker 3: was in cool. I mean, this is a cool story.
- 24:55Speaker 3: And I always talk about the kids stuff and the golfers.
- 24:58Speaker 3: Justin Thomas is still a prick for, you know, standing
- 25:00Speaker 3: up my son and other kids. So Jim Harbaugh's son,
- 25:03Speaker 3: If you don't like Jim Harborough, I think you're gonna
- 25:05Speaker 3: like him a little bit more after the story. His
- 25:07Speaker 3: son was playing the same tournament. My son wasn't easy.
- 25:11Speaker 3: His son's a year older, and it was I was
- 25:13Speaker 3: like thirty minutes from my house. But that is irrelevant
- 25:16Speaker 3: to the story. But he was there all weekend. It
- 25:18Speaker 3: started on Thursday, went through Sunday. He was there every
- 25:21Speaker 3: single day watching his son play and all these kids
- 25:25Speaker 3: huge Michigan fans in this area would go up to
- 25:28Speaker 3: him NonStop, can you sign this? Can you sign that?
- 25:31Speaker 3: Can you take a picture with me? He sat there
- 25:33Speaker 3: every single day and did not tell one kid no.
- 25:36Speaker 3: He took and his kid was playing a baseball game,
- 25:38Speaker 3: he would get up, take a picture, sign an autograph,
- 25:41Speaker 3: interact with the kids. They'd come back on day two
- 25:44Speaker 3: doing the same thing. He did not tell one kid
- 25:47Speaker 3: no and was never annoyed with the situation. So that
- 25:50Speaker 3: was really cool to see.
- 25:52Speaker 1: And how about that as the real question.
- 25:55Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he did his dad too, and dad's obviously
- 25:59Speaker 3: much older. Dad was like eighty, so he's you know,
- 26:01Speaker 3: showing him with his dad. It was really cool to see,
- 26:04Speaker 3: really cool to see.
- 26:05Speaker 1: And our man, Derek, we we still know who this is.
- 26:07Speaker 1: This is still the teacher in the building. He's got
- 26:09Speaker 1: his at Derek's dash DFS Patriot ninety five oh three.
- 26:12Speaker 1: But there's one for us title.
- 26:14Speaker 3: I know absolutely. I do hate that ship though. Man,
- 26:17Speaker 3: the guys in the UFC obviously the toughest dudes in
- 26:19Speaker 3: the world, but like after they lose to come out, well,
- 26:22Speaker 3: I had a hand into injury and what he say
- 26:25Speaker 3: had neurovirus or something like, dude, just like you got
- 26:28Speaker 3: your ass kicked, like I cannot.
- 26:30Speaker 2: He said he didn't want to be in a boring fight,
- 26:32Speaker 2: but he tried to wrestle, which is the like he
- 26:34Speaker 2: almost blamed that he want Like I was like, no,
- 26:36Speaker 2: you just got.
- 26:37Speaker 1: You're better to say it. I hate You're better to
- 26:39Speaker 1: say before because you'll get respected that he at least
- 26:42Speaker 1: he still went and fought. Yeah, and if you win,
- 26:44Speaker 1: you're like I beat him with this and I got
- 26:46Speaker 1: the job done. So I'm not gonna use it as
- 26:48Speaker 1: an excuse, lader. I'm just gonna let you know straight up,
- 26:50Speaker 1: if you really got to tell people, that's up to you.
- 26:52Speaker 3: I just hate it because these guys fight for a living,
- 26:54Speaker 3: so every single fight they come into, these guys are
- 26:57Speaker 3: probably dinged up a little bit, like no one's going
- 26:58Speaker 3: to be one hundred percent or trying to. You're cutting
- 27:01Speaker 3: weight at an insane, insane rate, like don't get your
- 27:04Speaker 3: ass kicked or lose, and then after the fact say
- 27:07Speaker 3: you had this and that going on, Like I hate that.
- 27:09Speaker 2: I agree.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Only other thing I want to bring up tonight is, uh,
- 27:13Speaker 1: you know something Aids had brought up on the I
- 27:15Speaker 1: don't know if you brought up on the takedown breakdown.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Him and I chatt about it earlier, but I always
- 27:18Speaker 1: shared just a little tidbits and thoughts that we get throughout,
- 27:20Speaker 1: but it was like a pretty big sample size. I know,
- 27:22Speaker 1: we always I might run the banner on Naids right
- 27:24Speaker 1: quick anyway, just for fun. But I will say, I
- 27:27Speaker 1: will say the tidbit that he had was about the
- 27:30Speaker 1: Hurts Barkley lineups to get again one slate tonight. Anything
- 27:33Speaker 1: can happen, but it just the combo of them being
- 27:35Speaker 1: together is has not been often for a long period
- 27:38Speaker 1: of time now, So I think tonight, even without the value,
- 27:41Speaker 1: you know, if you're struggling for value, you just don't
- 27:44Speaker 1: think that you have to force those two in. If
- 27:45Speaker 1: they end up together, great, maybe have some of those
- 27:47Speaker 1: in your portfolio. But if you're handbuilding one and you're
- 27:50Speaker 1: not taking Hoops advice, you said, oh, I'm just gonna
- 27:51Speaker 1: play my lineup. It's good to roll. I'm gonna see
- 27:53Speaker 1: what happens. You might be okay with that. If you
- 27:55Speaker 1: want Hurts in the you know up top, maybe it's
- 27:57Speaker 1: not Barkley in the flex and you think it goes
- 28:00Speaker 1: that way again, I'm not personally gonna rule this out.
- 28:02Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know some playing less lineups may
- 28:04Speaker 1: be interested to know that. So I thought i'd put
- 28:06Speaker 1: that out there. But you know, you got aj Brown,
- 28:09Speaker 1: you got devant To Smith, you got Dallas Goddard for
- 28:11Speaker 1: the mid range build. So I'm really excited about the
- 28:14Speaker 1: eagle side. And then if I go with the Chargers side,
- 28:16Speaker 1: one last note that I'll make and then I'll kick
- 28:18Speaker 1: it to you. Title for any further quarterback thoughts is
- 28:21Speaker 1: I think like Hampton captain, like if he if he
- 28:24Speaker 1: does or he doesn't, right like, come in, have a
- 28:26Speaker 1: huge game he is back, Everyone's like, Oh, I'm gonna
- 28:29Speaker 1: tippy toe around and I'm gonna play some of him,
- 28:31Speaker 1: some of the doll maybe some together, et cetera, et cetera.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Let's just put him right up top and just find
- 28:37Speaker 1: out what he's got and if he is the guy
- 28:38Speaker 1: still and can do it through the receiving, he could
- 28:40Speaker 1: do it when he gets close to the end zone,
- 28:42Speaker 1: whatever it might be. Definitely have an interest in that
- 28:45Speaker 1: thought as well, like the big game out of him
- 28:47Speaker 1: versus just the you know, poke around for the flex only.
- 28:49Speaker 1: But title, I'll kick it to you for any other
- 28:51Speaker 1: quarterback thoughts, and if not, you can go into running back.
- 28:53Speaker 2: Yeah, not really much quarterback thoughts. I'll definitely be playing
- 28:56Speaker 2: both again. A little worry some with Herbert because his
- 28:59Speaker 2: rushing touch on equity, but he has enough weapons he
- 29:02Speaker 2: could throw three or four to three or four different
- 29:04Speaker 2: guys running back. Yeah, I mean it's a big talking
- 29:07Speaker 2: point on the slate. With Hampton returning, we're not really
- 29:10Speaker 2: sure what the roles will be for both. It feels
- 29:13Speaker 2: very very confident that both Hampton and Vidal will get work.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Do they ride the hot hand? Is it very similar?
- 29:20Speaker 2: I see DraftKings has rushing props for forty two and
- 29:24Speaker 2: a half for Hampton, thirty six and a half for Vidal,
- 29:26Speaker 2: eleven and a half rushing attempt for Hampton, juice on
- 29:29Speaker 2: the under The thing is they're not price like they're
- 29:32Speaker 2: priced up. If anything, their price almost as if they're
- 29:35Speaker 2: the only guys in the backfield. Seventy eight hundred Hampton,
- 29:38Speaker 2: seventy four hundred Vidal. Again, props are much better for
- 29:41Speaker 2: Hampton than pricing is so similar. So I am gonna
- 29:44Speaker 2: play Hampton, even though I expect him to be a
- 29:46Speaker 2: third or three times higher owned, but I honestly don't
- 29:49Speaker 2: really like either. I plan to be underweight both with
- 29:51Speaker 2: hope it is through the passing game, with Brown a
- 29:55Speaker 2: little higher Devonte Smith a little higher. I know they'll
- 29:57Speaker 2: be higher own, but I just yeah, I'm hoping that
- 30:01Speaker 2: the Eagles fix the running game or at least that
- 30:03Speaker 2: both get fifty yards, but they don't do enough at
- 30:06Speaker 2: their price. Saquan I think's fine again though he's really
- 30:10Speaker 2: disappointed this year the price takes up there. I think
- 30:13Speaker 2: I prefer Brown and Smith if choosing tank Bigsby will Shipley.
- 30:18Speaker 2: They're hardly in the game and they actually have a
- 30:19Speaker 2: real price too. So I honestly do not like the
- 30:22Speaker 2: running backroom at all. I like the quarterback, receiver, tight
- 30:27Speaker 2: end and kickers defenses more than all these guys.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Yeah the chat talking about too. I think a lot
- 30:31Speaker 1: depends on game script that you're building for right however
- 30:34Speaker 1: you're building, whether it's within your portfolio, you're one to
- 30:36Speaker 1: three max, whatever it is. I definitely think that's the
- 30:39Speaker 1: main consideration here, because, like I said, like the Hampton stuff,
- 30:41Speaker 1: if I'm putting him up top, I'm leaning that the
- 30:44Speaker 1: charges are up, they're playing up like that's that game plan.
- 30:47Speaker 1: On the other side of it, though, if I'm building
- 30:48Speaker 1: for the Eagles to just come out and do sort
- 30:51Speaker 1: of like the Super Bowl play where it's like, oh,
- 30:54Speaker 1: it's such a close spread, it must mean this, Well,
- 30:56Speaker 1: then maybe they just pound them. Well, then maybe neither
- 30:59Speaker 1: of those running matter, because not only could it be
- 31:01Speaker 1: like a fifty five forty five split regardless of what
- 31:04Speaker 1: the projections have right now, that's how it just could
- 31:06Speaker 1: end up. And then it also is the fact they're
- 31:09Speaker 1: both almost eight k There's no set thing that says
- 31:12Speaker 1: anything that it's gonna be those two outside of people
- 31:15Speaker 1: just auto assuming that Jalen Carter out equals this maybe
- 31:18Speaker 1: it did in other games. Everyone look yesterday, wop James
- 31:22Speaker 1: Cook ran all over Pittsburgh the week before. Derek Henry
- 31:25Speaker 1: would be a good tournament play. He was. He got
- 31:27Speaker 1: twenty four carries ninety four yards. Why didn't he get
- 31:30Speaker 1: one hundred and forty four yards like James Cook? Why
- 31:32Speaker 1: didn't he get the touchdowns? It's it can change week
- 31:35Speaker 1: to week, and so it's like lots of things make
- 31:37Speaker 1: sense on paper, they don't always play out. So I'll
- 31:39Speaker 1: kick it back to you for I don't if you
- 31:40Speaker 1: had anything else at quarterback, but if not, you can
- 31:42Speaker 1: give your your spin on the running backs and then
- 31:44Speaker 1: we'll go into wide receiver after that.
- 31:46Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing else to add really at quarterback. I mean,
- 31:49Speaker 3: you know, definitely fine with you Herbert more in play
- 31:52Speaker 3: and flocks than captain for me, and then Hurts obviously
- 31:55Speaker 3: in both. But just looking at this running back stuff,
- 31:57Speaker 3: like if the numbers are true, like Hampton thirty percent,
- 32:02Speaker 3: like is that legit? Like right around thirty, we're showing
- 32:05Speaker 3: twenty eight, Saber has it around thirty. Man, I'm gonna
- 32:09Speaker 3: have to go ahead, and I haven't done this label
- 32:12Speaker 3: in a while, but if that's true, they just have
- 32:13Speaker 3: to be like the worst play on the slate, And
- 32:15Speaker 3: would I would play Vdll over him at like the
- 32:18Speaker 3: same price and then just hope the dal gets more
- 32:21Speaker 3: work than the projections are planning for and you're getting
- 32:27Speaker 3: way less ownership. And Vidal's been good. I think it's
- 32:30Speaker 3: definitely closer like fifty to fifty between those two, So
- 32:33Speaker 3: Hampton's got to be just a terrible play. But to
- 32:35Speaker 3: your point, like if you are going to play him,
- 32:37Speaker 3: maybe just put it up top and he goes off
- 32:39Speaker 3: and gets the two touchdowns, falls into the box and
- 32:42Speaker 3: no we're not allowed to say that, but falls into
- 32:44Speaker 3: the box a couple times that'd be out. But playing
- 32:47Speaker 3: him in the flex, I think is just a terrible play.
- 32:51Speaker 3: And then these other guys, like, it's not like they're free,
- 32:54Speaker 3: like Tank Bigsby's twenty six hundred, Shipley's two k. I
- 32:58Speaker 3: just I don't know, can't do these guys. It's got
- 33:01Speaker 3: to I mean, Barkley, Yeah, fine with Barkley, but the rest, like,
- 33:04Speaker 3: I just I can't click it. I think there are
- 33:07Speaker 3: a majority of you guys are just awful plays on
- 33:08Speaker 3: the sleep.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Yeah. I think what people could do too is just
- 33:12Speaker 1: the ownership is probably closer to right. But what you're
- 33:15Speaker 1: saying is the projection might not be closer too correct.
- 33:18Speaker 1: So it's like, again, that's a no ball spin that
- 33:20Speaker 1: you can put on it. But if if the ownership
- 33:22Speaker 1: is right, and I think it probably is, like the
- 33:23Speaker 1: props lean into this, projections across the industry lean into this.
- 33:27Speaker 1: It's like Hampton's good, he's fine, he's coming back, he'll
- 33:30Speaker 1: be good. He was so great before. Yes, Vidal stepped
- 33:32Speaker 1: up in the interim, but that's fine. They're gonna go
- 33:34Speaker 1: back to Hampton. So you could just change the projection
- 33:37Speaker 1: right in there and customize it that way and just
- 33:39Speaker 1: swap the projection or make it closer too, like for
- 33:42Speaker 1: us if it's you know, eleven point eight in the
- 33:44Speaker 1: flex on Hampton and five point five on Vidal and
- 33:47Speaker 1: these are not final, I'm just noting sort of the
- 33:49Speaker 1: thought process. You could just make it like nine on
- 33:53Speaker 1: Hampton and then give the rest of it over the
- 33:55Speaker 1: two point eight to Vidal and see what that does
- 33:58Speaker 1: for you. But the ownership's close to right, so I
- 34:01Speaker 1: would keep it that way and see see what that
- 34:03Speaker 1: looks like. So I just think some of that stuff
- 34:05Speaker 1: is a way to approach it. Title. Do you have
- 34:06Speaker 1: any different way you approach that I know is gonna
- 34:08Speaker 1: let Hoop go into wide receivers, But any any other
- 34:10Speaker 1: thoughts on that when you sort of have a no
- 34:12Speaker 1: ball spin that you want to put on stuff within
- 34:14Speaker 1: a portfolio.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Yeah, to be honest, I've gone back and forth. I've
- 34:19Speaker 2: done the min max. But listen to sheets, listen to
- 34:21Speaker 2: Rio and Sharp. People like that. They like boosting the
- 34:24Speaker 2: projection a little more. Yeah, maybe I should start trying that. Usually,
- 34:29Speaker 2: like there's so much going on Sunday morning and stuff
- 34:31Speaker 2: like I'm scared I boost the projection a little too much.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Then I get like seventy percent instead of twenty five,
- 34:36Speaker 2: and then I'm already back to using the max exposure.
- 34:39Speaker 2: So I got to mess with that a little more.
- 34:40Speaker 2: But I'm definitely have benmin max rio sheets better SAVERSIM
- 34:44Speaker 2: people than me. They like the projection more. Makes a
- 34:47Speaker 2: lot of sense.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the key too, is that I've
- 34:50Speaker 1: definitely had conversations with people over at Sabersim as well
- 34:52Speaker 1: on this, Like our team of support has been awesome
- 34:55Speaker 1: there and like things like adjusting the projection, especially if
- 34:58Speaker 1: you're an ultimate user with the SIMS, you will also
- 35:01Speaker 1: get a much more accurate contest ROI based on that
- 35:05Speaker 1: as well, because when you swap, when you just do
- 35:07Speaker 1: min max, it's like, yes, you'll get more Vidal, but
- 35:10Speaker 1: you're playing more of a poorly projected on paper. But
- 35:14Speaker 1: you know why you put them in there, because you're
- 35:15Speaker 1: comfortable with there. You're saying that projections more, just give
- 35:18Speaker 1: me more, but you're not taking the time to adjust
- 35:20Speaker 1: it accurately. But that's fine because then you just have
- 35:23Speaker 1: to accept lower contest ROI knowing that what you did
- 35:25Speaker 1: was for the right reason. So again, you know, not
- 35:28Speaker 1: for everybody, but just noting it. I think it's important
- 35:29Speaker 1: to think about those things. But for most of those
- 35:32Speaker 1: out there doing it, I would say adjust the projection
- 35:35Speaker 1: and with something like that, I'm not trying to like
- 35:37Speaker 1: over complicate it for people. I'm just saying I would
- 35:39Speaker 1: simplify it. And if you're docking Hampton too, I would
- 35:42Speaker 1: just give them directly to Vidal. You don't have to
- 35:45Speaker 1: stress about well this, that or the other unless you're
- 35:48Speaker 1: playing around with gamescript and flow of like, well, what
- 35:50Speaker 1: if the chargers are throwing more and you're boosting up
- 35:52Speaker 1: all the pass catchers and dropping down all the others.
- 35:55Speaker 1: You had the box a good place to be. Love
- 35:57Speaker 1: a good box, Yeah, I got if you can fall
- 35:59Speaker 1: into it. I don't know if that's a good thing,
- 36:01Speaker 1: but the box, that's good. I like that one hoop.
- 36:04Speaker 1: I'll kick it over to you. Man for wide receivers, yeah, I.
- 36:07Speaker 3: Mean it's pretty straightforward, like you know the guys I
- 36:11Speaker 3: mean on the eagle side at AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith,
- 36:15Speaker 3: and then you can throw Dotson into the category of
- 36:18Speaker 3: guys where you're building teams and you just need a
- 36:21Speaker 3: cheap guy that does something very limited upside. And I
- 36:25Speaker 3: mean the problem with the chief guys on the slate
- 36:27Speaker 3: is like they're not like super cheap. Like he's still
- 36:31Speaker 3: three k and we just talked about those backup running
- 36:33Speaker 3: backs two K twenty six hundred. It's not like we're
- 36:36Speaker 3: talking in the hundreds for a price. So it does
- 36:40Speaker 3: make it very difficult for a guy like to play
- 36:43Speaker 3: a guy like Dotson if you are playing him, you know,
- 36:45Speaker 3: I kind of go back to that same point. I
- 36:47Speaker 3: definitely prefer it in a Jalen Hurt's captain team and
- 36:51Speaker 3: he finds him in the end zone and you get
- 36:53Speaker 3: the double points that way. On the Chargers side, it's Lad,
- 36:59Speaker 3: it's Quinn, it's Keenan Allen. And you know the next
- 37:03Speaker 3: guy to throw into that mix is is Trey Harris.
- 37:06Speaker 3: And it's the same thing as other cheap guys. He's
- 37:08Speaker 3: thirty two hundred, he's not completely free, doesn't have a
- 37:12Speaker 3: high projection. You know, what does he need to do
- 37:16Speaker 3: to be on the optimal? To me, it's like probably
- 37:18Speaker 3: into that category that he talked about. You got the
- 37:21Speaker 3: situation where four or five guys get between eighteen and
- 37:24Speaker 3: twenty four, you just need them and then what you know,
- 37:26Speaker 3: whatever one of these cheap guys does is enough, so
- 37:30Speaker 3: you know, but but it's difficult at that price point
- 37:32Speaker 3: because these guys are still pretty close to the Kickers
- 37:33Speaker 3: and defense as well. So I don't know, I don't
- 37:38Speaker 3: love it outside the main guys, And that's kind of
- 37:41Speaker 3: the not the problem with the slate, but the conundrum
- 37:43Speaker 3: on the slate where you know everyone's gonna kind of
- 37:46Speaker 3: be looking at the same stuff and say, do I
- 37:48Speaker 3: really want to play Trey Harris or Johan Dotson or
- 37:52Speaker 3: Bigsby or Will Shipley Like that's you know, that's the
- 37:57Speaker 3: difficulty with with this slate. But again, not be beatable.
- 38:00Speaker 3: Obviously there's different things you can do, but it's tough
- 38:02Speaker 3: to get excited about anything outside of the main guys
- 38:05Speaker 3: at most of these positions, and Wide Receiver is no different.
- 38:08Speaker 3: And just to rank them, I would say, for me,
- 38:11Speaker 3: like aj Brown, Ladd and DeVonta Smith, Quintin Johnson, and
- 38:18Speaker 3: then like Keenan Allen.
- 38:20Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like Lad at his price squeezed in
- 38:23Speaker 1: between Smith and Brown, but definitely agree with a lot
- 38:26Speaker 1: of that and the Trey Harrison. He's been out there
- 38:29Speaker 1: a lot, so maybe he's the guy at thirty two
- 38:31Speaker 1: hundred if you got to get a value in their title.
- 38:33Speaker 1: What's your thoughts here at the wide receiver position tonight
- 38:35Speaker 1: and how you're handling it.
- 38:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of like Hoop like mentioned at the end,
- 38:39Speaker 2: they're still close to the kickers and d's and that
- 38:41Speaker 2: just brings up in the beginning the kickers and d's
- 38:43Speaker 2: are going to be owned because they're a lot more
- 38:45Speaker 2: comfortable clicks project a lot better than the guys below.
- 38:49Speaker 2: I definitely prefer Trey Harrison, John Dotson to Will Shipley
- 38:52Speaker 2: and Tank Bigsby, though in the same range. They'll just
- 38:54Speaker 2: be on the field more full point PPR like three
- 38:57Speaker 2: carries for ten yards or one catch for three yards.
- 39:00Speaker 2: Just got the one catch beat it, So Trey Harris,
- 39:03Speaker 2: I do prefer to Johan Dotson as well. Like you said,
- 39:06Speaker 2: he has been on the field more. He Keenan Allen's
- 39:08Speaker 2: been the one that's been off the field more. Hurt
- 39:11Speaker 2: the most from Trey Harris. His snap's going up, but
- 39:14Speaker 2: it's clearly right now lad playing the most then qj Alan,
- 39:19Speaker 2: Trey Harris pretty close after that, but they all do rotate.
- 39:23Speaker 2: I think AJ Brown is I'm just gonna keep doing it.
- 39:26Speaker 2: I prefer him the Captain and the Flex, whereas DeVante
- 39:28Speaker 2: Smith I think is fine in both. It just feels
- 39:31Speaker 2: like there's the floor floors low, the ceiling's high for AJ.
- 39:34Speaker 2: So I do always prefer him. Their lad keenan QJ.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Do I have Aleen? Not really. I think they're all fine.
- 39:44Speaker 2: I think DeVante Smith is my favorite receiver, though again
- 39:47Speaker 2: I do prefer the Eagle or favorite receiver in the Flex.
- 39:50Speaker 2: I do prefer Eagle stuff more to charge your stuff
- 39:52Speaker 2: because it's more condensed. And AJ Brown it just feels like, man,
- 39:56Speaker 2: you could you never know which AJ Brown you get.
- 39:59Speaker 2: So I'll take my chain it is up top, and
- 40:00Speaker 2: I prefer DeVante Smith. You can always go any AJ
- 40:03Speaker 2: Brown team to Devonte Smith very easily though as well.
- 40:06Speaker 2: Six hundred dollars we have in savings and we only
- 40:09Speaker 2: have a point five projection difference. That also helps me
- 40:12Speaker 2: lean that way a little bit too.
- 40:15Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny brought this one up, had people in and
- 40:17Speaker 1: out of my office to say, if this already covered,
- 40:18Speaker 1: can't remember who covered it, but there was concern about
- 40:20Speaker 1: Herbert assumedly in shotgun. Apparently stats are bad, I would say,
- 40:24Speaker 1: I think I saw this same thing. I forget who
- 40:26Speaker 1: posted it, but again, TUA is horrible in cold weather
- 40:30Speaker 1: until they score thirty four points yesterday, the Tennessee Titans
- 40:33Speaker 1: are absolutely horrible and should never be able to put
- 40:35Speaker 1: up thirty points and then going to the dog Pound
- 40:37Speaker 1: where teams like the Ravens and the Packers and others
- 40:40Speaker 1: have gone into and lost, and the Titans put up
- 40:42Speaker 1: thirty one. So it's like anything's good till.
- 40:45Speaker 3: It isn't it Like you can take that and apply it. Yesterday,
- 40:47Speaker 3: look at all those weather games. They all scored, They
- 40:50Speaker 3: all scored a lot lot more points than projected. Yeah,
- 40:55Speaker 3: one day, Yeah.
- 40:56Speaker 1: I think again, it's just all I'm going to build
- 40:59Speaker 1: for these scenarios. So like you know, that's my thoughts.
- 41:01Speaker 1: I know, sort of when you know some look at it.
- 41:04Speaker 1: There's thoughts about like going to the Chargers and one
- 41:06Speaker 1: thing I know tonight for sure just going back off
- 41:08Speaker 1: the top and then we'll kick back over for more thoughts.
- 41:11Speaker 1: I think titled you still have to talk about wide receivers.
- 41:13Speaker 1: Maybe I'm missing not I just okay, just getting all
- 41:16Speaker 1: these thoughts. But the other thing is, like I don't
- 41:18Speaker 1: think five ones are going to be as popular as
- 41:21Speaker 1: like Summer mentioning them tonight, But just the way it
- 41:23Speaker 1: sets up when you've got four good eagles at maybe
- 41:26Speaker 1: five if you want to include Goddard with Brown Smith
- 41:29Speaker 1: or maybe Smith is the odd man, I don't know,
- 41:31Speaker 1: but people like Goddard usually he's cheaper. So just using
- 41:33Speaker 1: those four to five options and then the other side,
- 41:36Speaker 1: even if people aren't comfortable with Herbert, even if they're
- 41:38Speaker 1: not comfortable with the running back room one of mcconkeye, Quinton, Johnston, Gadson,
- 41:44Speaker 1: Gadsden and Alan like, people will just make their pick
- 41:47Speaker 1: their poison or whatever the outside wide receiver stat matchup
- 41:51Speaker 1: from the last three weeks tells them. They'll they'll pick
- 41:53Speaker 1: their poison and just roll with it. So I think
- 41:55Speaker 1: just five ones in general. You could tell that story tonight,
- 41:58Speaker 1: you know. So I'm good with that. Fully, It's just
- 42:00Speaker 1: a you know, if you're going against that thought, I'd
- 42:02Speaker 1: be fine with stacking up the Eagles too. So anything
- 42:06Speaker 1: else whop that you got the tad. If not, we
- 42:07Speaker 1: could talk about the tight ends. I don't have anything
- 42:09Speaker 1: else to add at wide receiver.
- 42:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean tight ends gonna be pretty quick. I
- 42:13Speaker 3: mean there's just like, you know, two playable guys. I
- 42:16Speaker 3: think Gatson, who I think we all like, and I
- 42:18Speaker 3: think he's a totally fine option and a fair price
- 42:21Speaker 3: tag at fifty eight are just gonna need these middling
- 42:25Speaker 3: sort of price tags, so he's gonna be owned for sure,
- 42:29Speaker 3: but there's really no way around it. And I think
- 42:31Speaker 3: he's a really good play and I'm fine with him
- 42:32Speaker 3: up top. And then Dallas Goddard at fifty four hundred,
- 42:35Speaker 3: again you're just gonna need these price tags, so he'll
- 42:38Speaker 3: be owned, and I am. I am more open to
- 42:40Speaker 3: playing him in Captain than Title is. And you know,
- 42:44Speaker 3: maybe it does get increased a little bit the ownership
- 42:47Speaker 3: because people are gonna go and build teams and be like, man,
- 42:49Speaker 3: I can't play these cheap guys, so just give me
- 42:51Speaker 3: some of these mid tiers. So maybe they do steam
- 42:53Speaker 3: up a little bit, but it's just almost like a
- 42:56Speaker 3: necessity on the slate. So I'm good with both of them,
- 42:59Speaker 3: both fine plays, and I just can't play any of
- 43:01Speaker 3: these cheap tight ends. So pretty straightforward at this spot,
- 43:05Speaker 3: title you.
- 43:05Speaker 1: Got anything different there when it comes to I know
- 43:07Speaker 1: you weren't super high on any of these guys beforehand.
- 43:10Speaker 1: I got one thing, but I'll kick it to you
- 43:12Speaker 1: first anything else you got.
- 43:13Speaker 2: I do like Gadson a lot. I think he's one
- 43:15Speaker 2: of my favorite plays at at the price now. I
- 43:18Speaker 2: do think he gets steamed, and I think Goddard gets steam.
- 43:22Speaker 2: I think ads and has a lot of upside for
- 43:24Speaker 2: the price. Goddard I don't love as much. Like Coop said,
- 43:27Speaker 2: I'm playing a lot of teams. If you see me
- 43:29Speaker 2: win with Goddard up top, do not hate me. But yeah,
- 43:32Speaker 2: just in a vacuum, I do not like it as much.
- 43:34Speaker 2: Backups are Yeah, I mean, what is two point seven enough?
- 43:38Speaker 2: Maybe like one catch? Like probably not on this late,
- 43:41Speaker 2: but that's the reason you're playing A value is so bad?
- 43:44Speaker 1: What if a sixteen dollars guy gets you six?
- 43:47Speaker 2: Oh I would I would have like seventy percent.
- 43:50Speaker 1: All right, Well just came up. The first name narrative
- 43:53Speaker 1: is there. It's not because his name is Tyler. But
- 43:56Speaker 1: I do remember where I got this one from. And
- 43:58Speaker 1: again we'll see how it actually goes tonight. I think
- 44:00Speaker 1: it's very interesting. But my friend Jeff Feinberg posted this
- 44:03Speaker 1: out and I actually thought it was pretty pretty interesting.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Is if you remember Conklin would run the tushbush for
- 44:11Speaker 1: the Jets when they get up there, and they're not
- 44:14Speaker 1: gonna be toushbushing it tonight with Justin Herbert, and I
- 44:17Speaker 1: know they've got Trey Lance. They could just run him
- 44:19Speaker 1: in and do it for sure. But the eighteen to
- 44:21Speaker 1: one anytime touchdown on Tyler Conklin Chuck ten Bucks on it.
- 44:25Speaker 2: Like I thought, I.
- 44:27Speaker 1: Know, if people are metting it probably since he posted
- 44:30Speaker 1: it's Actually it was an interesting thought that I was like,
- 44:33Speaker 1: oh what if? And on a value play perspective, does
- 44:35Speaker 1: this happen almost you know, completely unlikely that this happens,
- 44:39Speaker 1: and the odds are still horrible for any time touchdown
- 44:41Speaker 1: for a guy like this too, but it would make
- 44:44Speaker 1: some sense if you've got an opportunity and think about
- 44:47Speaker 1: if Herbert's throwing it wild, you got guys like mconkie
- 44:50Speaker 1: and Johnston and Alan and them just flailing for the
- 44:53Speaker 1: ball and next thing you know, we got a passer
- 44:55Speaker 1: interference and it's time to run it in.
- 44:57Speaker 2: Maybe maybe so if you yeah, I mean, if there's
- 45:00Speaker 2: thought behind it, and literally a touch push is six
- 45:03Speaker 2: point one points to get point one for rushing and
- 45:05Speaker 2: six I would take that right now down below now.
- 45:09Speaker 1: And they talked too for like a value thought on
- 45:12Speaker 1: this sleigh Tucker Fisk not in as well. I know
- 45:15Speaker 1: people obviously there's Gadsden already and then there's you know,
- 45:18Speaker 1: Will Disley, I think, and everything else they've got on
- 45:20Speaker 1: the go there, but just noting it, I thought it
- 45:22Speaker 1: was interesting, and I love to tell you framed that
- 45:25Speaker 1: it's probably not good, probably not bad, probably not that ugly,
- 45:28Speaker 1: but I would say it's thought provoking if there's something
- 45:31Speaker 1: like that where I'm like, can put some actual thought
- 45:33Speaker 1: behind it's not just throwing shit against the wall. Maybe
- 45:35Speaker 1: it is, but I could just take it from that perspective,
- 45:37Speaker 1: so I don't.
- 45:38Speaker 2: Have to point one percent too, like you know what
- 45:41Speaker 2: I mean, Like making a case for a one percent
- 45:43Speaker 2: play at sixteen hundred can never be terrible.
- 45:45Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to MGM nineteen to one. They're not
- 45:48Speaker 1: afraid give them, give them the money on that thing.
- 45:52Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 45:52Speaker 1: Plus plus Hampton first came back from fractured ankle, maybe
- 45:55Speaker 1: not jamming. Hey, anything can happen if it hits it'll
- 45:58Speaker 1: be a fun one and shout out to my guy
- 45:59Speaker 1: Finberg hopefully as well with him. But I think anything
- 46:02Speaker 1: like that is always interesting. What was your say? What
- 46:05Speaker 1: did you say earlier? Sorry? Title on Like Calcaterra, I know,
- 46:08Speaker 1: it's not like it's a big percentage. It's like two
- 46:10Speaker 1: instead of everybody else at point five, But it seems
- 46:13Speaker 1: like some people do go for him first over other opportunities.
- 46:16Speaker 1: It's like Noah Gray, they always go to the It's like,
- 46:18Speaker 1: we'll go to Noah Gray instead, and it does like nothing.
- 46:20Speaker 1: But Calcaterra feels like that guy.
- 46:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I played a lot of Grey yesterday. Did nothing. Literally,
- 46:24Speaker 2: the last catch of the game was great. I don't know,
- 46:27Speaker 2: is three enough, Like he's on the field a little bit,
- 46:31Speaker 2: but it's blocking. It's hard to get excited for it
- 46:33Speaker 2: for him at all. John Dotson, Trey Harris, even though
- 46:37Speaker 2: I know they're a little more expensive. Probably my favorite one.
- 46:40Speaker 2: It was Week one this year, Week one or two,
- 46:42Speaker 2: I think it was one. The first game of the year.
- 46:44Speaker 2: Is that one? Yeah, Jalen Carter when he spit on
- 46:46Speaker 2: that first game, but he caught like a fifty eight
- 46:48Speaker 2: yard fifty eight yard seam route and that was enough
- 46:51Speaker 2: for seven points or something like that. So yeah, I'd
- 46:55Speaker 2: rather that.
- 46:55Speaker 1: I think he doubled DJ Brown with that same score
- 46:58Speaker 1: he did the way it goes. But I think people
- 47:01Speaker 1: just like the the Calcatara wine mixer that what was it,
- 47:05Speaker 1: the Catalina wine mixer from the movie.
- 47:06Speaker 3: And Step Brothers. That's so good you see Step Brothers, right, title?
- 47:12Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the few.
- 47:13Speaker 3: All right, all right, just I always got to make
- 47:15Speaker 3: sure the title because I'm bad with movies and things
- 47:18Speaker 3: like that, but titles like way worse.
- 47:20Speaker 1: And we got ten minutes, probably ten minutes left in this,
- 47:25Speaker 1: but let's say I want to get title today. The
- 47:27Speaker 1: last five minutes. We never get we do food, we
- 47:29Speaker 1: do anything. This movie thing because we might be on
- 47:32Speaker 1: the same page. There's a lot of good movies that
- 47:34Speaker 1: people swear by that I haven't seen, and now it
- 47:37Speaker 1: sounds like title and I could be aligned on that.
- 47:39Speaker 3: So as much as yeah, title is like nothing.
- 47:46Speaker 1: We'll get to that. We got to get to that.
- 47:47Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the thing. He's a grinder man, the
- 47:49Speaker 1: absolute best, and I love it for him, you know,
- 47:51Speaker 1: him and Reo winning last night, that's two of the artists,
- 47:54Speaker 1: working guys in the game out there and getting it done.
- 47:56Speaker 1: And I love to see that type of ship on
- 47:58Speaker 1: top of all the rest of the commun to be
- 48:00Speaker 1: coming through and find and wins over the weekend. It's
- 48:01Speaker 1: always a good time inside the community at shipper Nation.
- 48:04Speaker 3: Let's round it up. I will say I'm step Brothers
- 48:07Speaker 3: real quick because we'll we'll hit on all this at
- 48:08Speaker 3: the end. But that is like one of the only
- 48:10Speaker 3: like if I watch a movie once, like I'm I
- 48:13Speaker 3: can't watch movies multiple times, Like once, I watch it
- 48:16Speaker 3: once and that's it, like it's over. Like I'm not
- 48:19Speaker 3: going to rewatch the movie step Brothers though if that's
- 48:21Speaker 3: on TV. Like if I'm flipping through the channel I
- 48:23Speaker 3: see step Brothers, I will stop and rewatch that.
- 48:25Speaker 1: That's like very I rewatchables. What was today? This is
- 48:28Speaker 1: a fun topic and people are already trying to dial
- 48:30Speaker 1: in because people love movies, for sure, it's part of it.
- 48:32Speaker 1: We did the food culture. We'll stick with that for
- 48:34Speaker 1: some but title we'll go to it. And I know
- 48:36Speaker 1: you never seen Shoshank Redemption because I've never.
- 48:39Speaker 2: Heard of that one.
- 48:40Speaker 1: No, I barely know enough about it. And it's like, uh,
- 48:43Speaker 1: I forget who's in it now.
- 48:46Speaker 3: Man made one that made one statement like it's like
- 48:49Speaker 3: the food and movie stuff man, just like the words strange.
- 48:55Speaker 1: One thing we got to stay on track for he.
- 48:57Speaker 3: Doesn't rewatch movies and uh burns meat. Like, man, what
- 49:01Speaker 3: a strange person.
- 49:04Speaker 1: So let me say this so we can get to
- 49:06Speaker 1: this because now I'm excited the one thing tonight And
- 49:09Speaker 1: I don't know if it's right, but currently the ownership
- 49:12Speaker 1: on defenses still shows quite high. Kicker still is higher,
- 49:16Speaker 1: but there's like no chance to me that by the
- 49:18Speaker 1: time we get the final update. This is the way
- 49:20Speaker 1: it is, like I just I know their value plays,
- 49:22Speaker 1: but it's Jake Elliott and it's Dicker the kicker, like
- 49:25Speaker 1: people are definitely playing them. It's Elliott on an Eagle's
- 49:29Speaker 1: defense at offense that hasn't been able to score points
- 49:32Speaker 1: because they have to kick them. And then it's Dicker
- 49:34Speaker 1: the kicker, and now it's like Herbert's hand is banged
- 49:37Speaker 1: up and everything. I think we see all time hyes
- 49:39Speaker 1: on kickers tonight. And I also think we see them
- 49:41Speaker 1: in the Captain tonight, based on a bit of a
- 49:43Speaker 1: conversation we didn't have earlier it's it's definitely gonna be that.
- 49:46Speaker 1: But title, do you have thoughts on kickers and D's?
- 49:49Speaker 2: They're gonna be played a lot, like, totally agree with
- 49:52Speaker 2: the reasons you said, But defenses will be played because
- 49:55Speaker 2: both defenses are cheaper than both kickers. Dicker's five k
- 49:58Speaker 2: Eagles D forty four hundred. That's six hundred there, Chargers
- 50:01Speaker 2: defense thirty six hundred. You're right there comparing to Trey Harris,
- 50:05Speaker 2: to Johan Dotts and this Calcantara cheaper like Chargers D
- 50:09Speaker 2: even projects better for all or better than all of them.
- 50:12Speaker 2: So I think people will try if they can to
- 50:16Speaker 2: have the defense. The Chargers defense is the lowest priced
- 50:19Speaker 2: option in their teams. Just know that going forward. Trey Harris,
- 50:23Speaker 2: the more I look at it, though, he's the guy
- 50:25Speaker 2: below that if I had to make a stand or
- 50:28Speaker 2: like to be on the optimal, he'd be the one
- 50:29Speaker 2: I'm most confident in. But it looks like he's probably
- 50:32Speaker 2: of all the guys down there too, probably getting one
- 50:34Speaker 2: of the most ownerships. So yeah, I'm gonna play all
- 50:36Speaker 2: four of them. We need to holes ly, what.
- 50:39Speaker 1: Do you think who he's so fired I'm talking about it?
- 50:45Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, defense is just have to get a decent
- 50:50Speaker 3: bid owner. So just because there's not many cheap plays,
- 50:53Speaker 3: so I would be careful with that because I do
- 50:55Speaker 3: think they could get to a point where they're not
- 50:59Speaker 3: great play.
- 51:00Speaker 2: Oh I guess.
- 51:00Speaker 3: I never think they're good plays, but like I think
- 51:02Speaker 3: they could get increased ownership or they will because of
- 51:05Speaker 3: the dynamic of the kickers think are great. Preferred Dicker
- 51:10Speaker 3: over Elliott, but both are probably necessities on the slate.
- 51:14Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think, Like, again, we won't show a
- 51:17Speaker 1: ton of this right now. I mean it currently shows
- 51:19Speaker 1: Eagles could be higher owned than the Captain, I guess,
- 51:22Speaker 1: but I honestly think that, you know, even just doing
- 51:25Speaker 1: some dry runs and stuff beforehand too, Like these kickers
- 51:27Speaker 1: are value plays that pop up top. And that's where
- 51:30Speaker 1: it gets a bit tricky, because like do you play
- 51:32Speaker 1: Cameron Dicker or Jake Elliott in the Captain or do
- 51:35Speaker 1: you play Goddard or Gadsten for just a little bit
- 51:38Speaker 1: more and then you're still able to find it. So
- 51:40Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it's gonna be a pretty
- 51:42Speaker 1: interesting slate. I think it's gonna come down to just
- 51:44Speaker 1: the roster construction and the captain selection of the common pool.
- 51:48Speaker 1: I'm more so saying it always comes down to that,
- 51:50Speaker 1: But I'm more so saying I don't know that it's
- 51:52Speaker 1: gonna be like a diamond in the rough guy unless
- 51:54Speaker 1: it's Tyler Conklin. And if it's him and he gets
- 51:56Speaker 1: that touchdown, then baby, let's go. I'm gonna have a
- 51:59Speaker 1: good night. But yeah, we'll see how the rest of
- 52:01Speaker 1: it goes. Title. Do you have any final thoughts on this?
- 52:03Speaker 1: And then we'll go to hoop and look through the
- 52:05Speaker 1: FanDuel side of things see if he sees anything there.
- 52:07Speaker 2: Yeah, what would you guys want from your kicker to
- 52:09Speaker 2: be up top? Thirteen? Is thirteen good on this late?
- 52:13Speaker 2: At that price and roster construction wise.
- 52:17Speaker 1: I think you need more because if that's I definitely
- 52:19Speaker 1: could see both getting thirteen easies. So maybe that's why
- 52:22Speaker 1: it is popping up, but I could see that being
- 52:23Speaker 1: a possibility for sure, and then you one and a
- 52:25Speaker 1: half exit and you're in a solid spot. So yeah,
- 52:28Speaker 1: I think.
- 52:29Speaker 3: There is an upper teens.
- 52:30Speaker 2: I think that makes me like it a lot less
- 52:33Speaker 2: like sixteen plus and a total okay, yeah, yeah, thirteen doable,
- 52:39Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen and it's pushing it a little bit. But again,
- 52:42Speaker 2: the more lineups you play, the more you can have
- 52:44Speaker 2: in your portfolio. If I was playing four teams, I
- 52:46Speaker 2: wouldn't have any kicker or the up top personally.
- 52:49Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have it all covered over on the site
- 52:50Speaker 1: as well, but I think once the final update comes
- 52:53Speaker 1: in will have a better feel for it, and then,
- 52:54Speaker 1: like I said, the ownership will be adjusted, everything will
- 52:56Speaker 1: be ready to go. Just don't You can play around
- 52:58Speaker 1: with your lineups now, but I wouldn't them until we
- 53:01Speaker 1: get you know, everything, and we might get even more
- 53:02Speaker 1: news by game time or things that you want to
- 53:05Speaker 1: make you know, stands on things like that. So yeah,
- 53:07Speaker 1: well we'll wait and see. But that was good, Hoop.
- 53:10Speaker 1: There is a couple of things I saw right away.
- 53:12Speaker 1: I don't know if you found any others, but like
- 53:14Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston is the exact same price on both sides,
- 53:18Speaker 1: so seven k on Vanduel the same for example, like
- 53:21Speaker 1: lad Mconkie's eighty eight hundred on DraftKings ten to six
- 53:25Speaker 1: on FanDuel, Quintin Johnston exact same price. And there was
- 53:29Speaker 1: one more to Godard. Oh, Goddard went way out fifty
- 53:32Speaker 1: four hundred to seventy two hundred.
- 53:33Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was the one that stood out. So yeah,
- 53:36Speaker 3: gats And way cheaper than Goddard on fan duel for sure,
- 53:42Speaker 3: Devanta Smith way cheaper than AJ Brown on FanDuel. It's
- 53:46Speaker 3: like an eighteen dollars difference, Bedal more expensive than Hampton
- 53:51Speaker 3: six hundred dollars more expensive.
- 53:56Speaker 2: Come down.
- 53:59Speaker 3: These like Dotson at forty six hundred, Trey Harris fifty two.
- 54:05Speaker 3: Like it's even nastier over here, Like it makes it
- 54:07Speaker 3: difficult to click those names, and it's already difficult on FanDuel,
- 54:11Speaker 3: it's even more so over here. It's really the same story,
- 54:15Speaker 3: a couple pricing differences.
- 54:16Speaker 5: I would definitely say the Gats in Goddard things stands out,
- 54:22Speaker 5: And then like DeVonta Smith way cheaper than AJ Brown,
- 54:26Speaker 5: McConkie in between those guys, Quintin Johnson, Yes, Quentin Johnson
- 54:32Speaker 5: on seven.
- 54:33Speaker 3: K, I thinks a good plan fan it's pretty cheap. Well,
- 54:35Speaker 3: it tipped everything else, So yeah, a few things there.
- 54:39Speaker 1: Maybe Elliott won't be as popular either. I was just looking,
- 54:41Speaker 1: I did a hoopsidle game log watch and I guess
- 54:43Speaker 1: I've you know, thinking about the chat bringing up and
- 54:45Speaker 1: then I went and double checked it just to look
- 54:47Speaker 1: it up and see always loved the comments of the engagement.
- 54:50Speaker 1: It helps us out and it's just fun. Said Eagles
- 54:52Speaker 1: would rather go for it on fourth than kick the
- 54:54Speaker 1: fuel as Yeah, it's been a bad scene for for
- 54:56Speaker 1: l Ala, what's mediocre across the board, but even for
- 54:58Speaker 1: dick Or nine eight, he did have a fourteen and
- 55:01Speaker 1: a fifteen, but that was spread between eleven and seven,
- 55:04Speaker 1: a six and a five than a seventeen. Like it's
- 55:06Speaker 1: there's been ups and downs, but I feel like on
- 55:09Speaker 1: this slate you probably need more like those fifteen to
- 55:12Speaker 1: seventeens than you would the twelve to thirteen. So title
- 55:15Speaker 1: ending you saw there with the FANDUL.
- 55:16Speaker 2: Side of things, Yeah, the Johnston got her two hundor
- 55:19Speaker 2: less for Johnson on fanduels sixteen hundred more on DK
- 55:22Speaker 2: interesting Hampton and Vidal is the big difference. Hampton's actually
- 55:26Speaker 2: going to be pretty popular on FanDuel at eight point
- 55:29Speaker 2: two k vit all eight eight, But I mean it's
- 55:31Speaker 2: fourteen hundred dollars difference from Devonte Smith, twenty four from
- 55:35Speaker 2: Ladd and it just keeps going up. There's a big
- 55:37Speaker 2: a bigger difference from the top tier guys to Hampton,
- 55:40Speaker 2: and he fits scoring better half point PPR touchdowns mean more,
- 55:43Speaker 2: so Hampton will definitely be pretty popular. And the last
- 55:47Speaker 2: thing to note, I don't remember exactly what showdown it was,
- 55:49Speaker 2: but I mentioned like in some optimals it was guys
- 55:53Speaker 2: almost projected at zero at stone punts. That's the same
- 55:55Speaker 2: case today for the reason like Hoop said, the dots
- 55:58Speaker 2: in four to six tanks bigsby three point six k,
- 56:01Speaker 2: like instead of just playing them, people will go all
- 56:03Speaker 2: the way down to will Disley or Calcintara one point two,
- 56:07Speaker 2: one point four. Legit, one point eight points could be
- 56:10Speaker 2: enough on FanDuel if all those guys blank like four
- 56:13Speaker 2: K and below and what it gets you up top?
- 56:15Speaker 2: So even tighter pricing on FanDuel. And the last thing,
- 56:18Speaker 2: it just made me laugh. Someone brought up Aubrey and
- 56:22Speaker 2: it's like we talked talked in into existence that one
- 56:25Speaker 2: day we're talking abou should we get six points for
- 56:27Speaker 2: the sixty yards? And there it went. So that made
- 56:29Speaker 2: me laugh too.
- 56:30Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, it's just crazy. Man. If Kicker
- 56:33Speaker 1: isn't going full Aubrey tonight, do it?
- 56:35Speaker 2: Yeah? Literally, talked about should they get six all that
- 56:38Speaker 2: and there goes effortless sixty.
- 56:41Speaker 1: Yeah, people think got too literal. That's a side. Tangent
- 56:43Speaker 1: was like, I played the kickers all the time. We've
- 56:46Speaker 1: been doing it for years. Who playing two kickers when
- 56:48Speaker 1: people were so mad about it. I was just all
- 56:50Speaker 1: I was saying is you can still do something and
- 56:53Speaker 1: not love how the system is. Like it's it's all
- 56:56Speaker 1: the time. Like I don't love you make fun of
- 56:58Speaker 1: hoop all you want about the well done. I don't
- 57:00Speaker 1: like paying eighty bucks for a steak. I think that's ridiculous,
- 57:03Speaker 1: but it's whatever. It's a standard. You go to a steakhouse,
- 57:06Speaker 1: you pay whatever you pay, and you eat the steak
- 57:08Speaker 1: and move on. I think the scoring for the kickers
- 57:11Speaker 1: is like I said in golf, if the if the
- 57:13Speaker 1: birdie is three and the eagle is eight, that makes sense,
- 57:16Speaker 1: and eagle's much harder to get than a birdie. But
- 57:19Speaker 1: then why is a bogie minus one or minus point
- 57:22Speaker 1: five and a quadruple bogie is minus one. It's like
- 57:26Speaker 1: it goes up my point five versus five pack. That
- 57:29Speaker 1: doesn't make it much sense. A kicker kicking a fifty yarder,
- 57:33Speaker 1: which nowadays is freaking casual. Like I said, you can
- 57:36Speaker 1: go look up nine year olds on YouTube. I'm not
- 57:37Speaker 1: looking up nine year olds on YouTube. I'm talking about
- 57:40Speaker 1: looking up the kids kicking field goals on YouTube. And
- 57:44Speaker 1: there's kids that are able to kick a sixty yarder.
- 57:46Speaker 1: It's like it's their job. They do it. But to
- 57:49Speaker 1: get almost as many points as a four, you know,
- 57:52Speaker 1: forty yard grab that's out there, like on the sidelines,
- 57:56Speaker 1: pull it down, get it done, like no skill points,
- 57:58Speaker 1: I guess, but just noting it's crazy to rack the
- 58:01Speaker 1: points like that. Like Stafford could throw a touchdown get
- 58:04Speaker 1: four point two and the whole point was he couldn't
- 58:08Speaker 1: throw a touchdown, But then you give the kicker five
- 58:10Speaker 1: for booting through what they couldn't get it just I
- 58:12Speaker 1: think the scoring system is a little bit aggressive, but
- 58:15Speaker 1: you gotta play play that to your advantage, was the
- 58:17Speaker 1: main point, right.
- 58:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everyone deals with the same thing. We
- 58:20Speaker 2: could think some things make a little more sense, but
- 58:23Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. Everyone's
- 58:25Speaker 2: got the same same deck of cards.
- 58:27Speaker 1: Saying that this is an interesting comment too. By the way,
- 58:29Speaker 1: my wife does not approve of the stash. I'll tell
- 58:32Speaker 1: you what, I've never had more women in.
- 58:36Speaker 3: Like I was gonna, I was gonna add in because uh,
- 58:40Speaker 3: this is missus hoop. She asked, she goes out, she
- 58:43Speaker 3: goes does uh does Tambo still have the stash?
- 58:45Speaker 2: Call?
- 58:46Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, he does it. She goes, Is
- 58:47Speaker 3: he gonna ever shave it off or keep it going?
- 58:49Speaker 3: I said, I don't know. It's been going for a while.
- 58:50Speaker 3: But she's she's interested as well, So.
- 58:55Speaker 1: It's insane.
- 58:55Speaker 3: Man.
- 58:56Speaker 1: My wife's like, geez, buddy, what's going on? And my
- 58:58Speaker 1: wife likes it somewhere good? So yeah, I don't know,
- 59:01Speaker 1: there's something about it a little a little bit more.
- 59:06Speaker 2: You got more attention.
- 59:07Speaker 3: Now got more attention from the.
- 59:10Speaker 1: More attention for sure. All right, let's uh, let's do this.
- 59:13Speaker 1: You guys got more stuff you want to talk about
- 59:16Speaker 1: by all means. But let's just see. I just saw
- 59:19Speaker 1: this site had both kickers and both defenses having a
- 59:22Speaker 1: five in the ones. Okay, yeah, that's that's fine. Not
- 59:26Speaker 1: too with that. I guess what else? Uh? This one's good.
- 59:30Speaker 1: Timbo looks so good with the stash without he looks
- 59:32Speaker 1: like the demon baby from pat I know, I haven't
- 59:34Speaker 1: seen that movie. I know title hasn't seen that movie. Ye,
- 59:39Speaker 1: all right. The biggest one they want to know right
- 59:41Speaker 1: off the top is about Rounders. Okay, it's a poker movie.
- 59:44Speaker 1: You're playing poker till all hours of the morning. Have
- 59:48Speaker 1: you not seen Rounders?
- 59:50Speaker 2: No, I've been I've been recommended for like literally probably
- 59:54Speaker 2: two and a half years to watch that movie. And
- 59:57Speaker 2: they didn't have it on the airplane home for Greece.
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: I haven't watched a movie unless a Christmas movie on
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: the background, probably like four years now.
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: People could just leave. They want frame it up for
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: the people. Why don't you watch movies? Is it just
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: because you're too busy doing all the other things? Is
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: like if it doesn't, it can't make money watching a movie.
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: What sort of the Yeah, I mean it's damn near.
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: Like I'm obsessed right now with poker dfs. I have
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: a wife, like I gotta spend time with her and
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: do stuff. If there's something in the background, if I
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: have any bit of free time, I'm probably playing online
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: poker or studying poker.
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: So you were you were supposed to watch a movie
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: Friday night. I know that much, and you weaseled your
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: way out of that one. So what movie were you
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: guys gonna watch? You know, you're just showing up and
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: whatever she puts it. Yeah, but I was at.
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: The poker table and said until three thirty am. So yeah,
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: just I try and find something that it's probably bad
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: money driven, but it can make me money or I'm
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: spending with friends or family. So that's it.
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: What about with the wife though, like does doesn't she
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: ever want to watch movies?
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: Usually she just has like a show on in the
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: back or stuff for like like right now football we
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: got football on Monday, we got football on Thursday. There's
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: late swap NBA. That's the worst, having to go rotate
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: in So not really. I go to bed early too,
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: Like if I'm not playing poker, I'm in bed like
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: eight thirty or nine.
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: Well, you gotta watch Rounders, I mean hoops, haven't watch movies.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: I don't rewatch a ton. I barely watch movies as is,
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: but I will say Rounders I have definitely watched like
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: over forty times without exaggerating, like I've watched it a
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: lot of times.
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: So well, the movie industry has definitely changed recently, like
- 1:01:32Speaker 3: when we were I don't know, like fifteen years ago,
- 1:01:34Speaker 3: there's new quality movies coming out all the time.
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: Now it's like it's all dog shit that.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: Comes out on these streaming services and there's like nothing good,
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: Like there's not good movies anymore.
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: It's I agree, going to the theaters back in the day, Like, yeah,
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: I like that for good quality movies. Funny, Yeah, the
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: comedy has been removed from half these things. They are afraid
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: you'd get canceled or something.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: Yes, it's terrible, terrible marble mode. No time for negative
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: ev fake movies. Yeah, I've always hated his movies that
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: like are even like books, same thing, like if it's
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: not if it can't at least be real or there's
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: like some perspective or something, I don't fully enjoy it either,
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: but I think it's interesting.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: So I like documentaries and stuff like that. So I
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: guess like if I really had to choose, like I
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: would watch do something like that. The time the Donahy
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: Tim Donahey reffing thing I thought was very interesting.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: Man Kevlar watched two hundred times.
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: I believe that he loves poker.
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: I just yeah, I just like I the problem I
- 1:02:33Speaker 3: have with movies, The reason I don't watch many of them.
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: Like I'm not ever fully paying attention to the movie.
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: Like if I'm watching a movie, I'll have my laptop up,
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: I'll have my phone going like I have Multi. I'm
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: never just shutting everything down and watching a movie. So
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: like I don't fully pay attention, so I don't remember
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: what happens a lot of.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: Maybe you gotta maybe you gotta get the g Rise
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: and jay By hit a couple. Yeah, and you'll just
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: zone in and just get locked in, locked in.
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: Yeah, let's uh, let's see what you guys want. Give
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: us some more movies. You want us to test title on?
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: What?
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: What?
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: What are some of like the main movies you think
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: of when you hear people talk about them all the time,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: Like you said, everyone always recommends.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: That Gilmore, Sam Wotts.
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: You haven't seen Gilmore?
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: Oh no, No, I'm saying movies that I like have seen,
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: the basic ones that I have seen.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I was gonna say. Okay, so you've
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: seen those movies.
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: I would literally Rounders would be one of the first
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: ones I've heard it from like everyone that I would
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: turn on and like watch. So if I haven't watched that,
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: I haven't watched these.
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: You'd like that one.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: Have you seen pulp Ficton?
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: No?
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: I never saw a.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: Street wall Street.
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: First, this is a good one. I'm not I'm not
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: really army stuff. But like Saving Private Ryan was a
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: really good movie. That was like a really really good
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: Have seen that? Yeah, I saw that.
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: You've seen Forrest Gump?
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: Yep, I have seen Forrest Gump.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: Any Given Sunday?
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: No?
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: You never seen Any Given Sunday. No, that's a pretty
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: good movie.
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: Very good. Wolf of Wall Street really Blindside, very very
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: good movie.
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: That's a phenomenal movie. Yeah, very good.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: What prompts you I'm so curious by this, So what
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: prompts you to watch? Like you're like you you nodded
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: at Wolf of Wall Street and Blindside like these were.
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: Automatic Blindside I think I watched like nine years ago
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: when I was driving up to Michigan, Like like when
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: I we used to have drives that we drove far
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: away and we had a little TV screen ya big
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: in the van and we sat in the back. So
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: that's almost all the movies I watched was from as
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: a kid and like the little teen years growing up
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: driving the places. So I watched movies distract me. And
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: that was one of them. Wolf of Wall Street. I
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know why I did it something.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: It was really good movie. I can't remember what prompted me.
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: That's a good one.
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: See, I haven't heard of a lot of these ones,
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: so now that they are coming in, like, uh, I've
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: never watched the Matrix.
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: Tambo.
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a popular one. I've definitely seen it.
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: I've never seen this one, Full Metal Jacket Inception not
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: never seen that good.
- 1:05:00Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a Leo movie back in the day. That's
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: a good one.
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: Never heard of Reacher.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's like a comedy back I don't know
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: is that a comedy? I thought that was like a
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: I think it's a comedy.
- 1:05:12Speaker 3: But here's one of my favorites for sure. Have you
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: seen Tommy Boy?
- 1:05:15Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Tommy Boy is good. Tommy that's a classic.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: That is an absolute classic.
- 1:05:20Speaker 3: For sure. Tommy Boy is great. And then what's the
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: other one with David Spade? And this is probably one
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: of my favorite kid rocks in it, David Spade. It's
- 1:05:29Speaker 3: the comedy Joe Dirt. Joe Dirt. I love Joe Dirt.
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: That's definitely up their top top five for me. Have
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: you seen Joe Dirt? No, you gotta see that one.
- 1:05:38Speaker 3: That's that's I gotta see that. I just wrote it
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: in my notes. I know I got to do Rounders.
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: First, but I gotta say it's best poker movie all time.
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: Jenny Willman is the man though. That's our boy. But
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, Joe, Oh yeah, they got
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: They asked this earlier. This is a Christmas tradition in
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: my house. I've seen this one at least thirty plus years.
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: I got it, maybe almost forty now, actually aging myself.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: But Christmas vacation is that dry out?
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: No?
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: Have you have you ever seen Christmas Vacation National Lampoons?
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: No?
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: Oh my god, insanity.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: Right now, I'm on the side of you. Guys can
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: roast some out the meat stuff. You can't rustle me
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: about movies and shows all day for this is.
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: A good one. I can't fully remember what happened in it,
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: but I remember watching it and I remember being very
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: very good.
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good.
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: You hit Aids Maids thing. Yeah, Aid's nick whatever one
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: you just said really got people.
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: He doesn't even know what that means because he's never
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: seen the movie.
- 1:06:40Speaker 3: You've seen, but I can't. Again, I can't. Maybe I
- 1:06:44Speaker 3: just have a bad memory because I can't. I know
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: it's funny, I just can't remember a lot of the
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: details of it.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: Title. Have you seen the Notebook?
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: No?
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: I thought watch that ship.
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: Oh, this is a good movie. Actually I watched this
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: one a bunch of times.
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: The town, Yeah, was.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: That Boston in Boston, and the actually filmed it, Like
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: my guy was in.
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: Was in Fenway Park, right there's yeah.
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: And he's Kenny Z. We had all the Kenny's Kenny
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: Wilman is handwalk and then we got Kenny w our guy.
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: But Kenny Z was in here earlier. I got to
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: meet him at the Me and Rio were at the
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: live final in Boston together. Uh while I was tagging
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: along with him and we got to go there, and
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: he was telling me the story about them filming it
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: in and around and like right there, like they did
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: it at the for real at the place. It was
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: all set up properly. So he was showing me all
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: the stuff.
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: Remember, is very good. And then this is one of
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: my favorites for sure from our guy neighbors. Training Day.
- 1:07:37Speaker 3: I love training day. I love any like there's certain
- 1:07:40Speaker 3: actors that like, if they're in something, I'm immediately intrigued
- 1:07:43Speaker 3: in Denzel Washington. I think it is probably like I'm
- 1:07:46Speaker 3: not like a movie connoisseur, but like, to me, Denzel
- 1:07:48Speaker 3: Washington's like the best actor ever.
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this stuff.
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: What about when I might have got What about if
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: you guys baughtch this one? Maybe I finally got one.
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: You guys haven't watched I haven't.
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: There's it's there's sequels too, isn't there?
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: Yeah? There is the only again, the only reason I
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: watched that on the trip from Greece, they didn't have rounders,
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: so I went with that.
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: This is excellent. Two Man Blue Chips. Those are old
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: school man. Those are like someone said, any old movie
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: is good. These are these are great movies. If you're
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: writing them down Friday, do you ever watch Friday Next Friday?
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: Any of those movies? Okay, mm hmm, he got game
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: is great. Somebody said, what.
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: About you're going to watch a movie or shows? Like,
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: what what do you like more?
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: We gotta say show for next time?
- 1:08:32Speaker 3: But shows shows just because the movies there's just no
- 1:08:35Speaker 3: movie options. And I'll tell you what we just if
- 1:08:38Speaker 3: you're interested it is a funny one if you're interested.
- 1:08:41Speaker 3: The oh we started land Man, that is very good.
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: You've seen it, right, A.
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: New episodes.
- 1:08:48Speaker 3: I haven't watched the new ones. I'm just waiting for
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: season two to finish. But that is elite elite viewing.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: Season two slower starting, I will say, but still good.
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: I'm just saying season one very good, very good.
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: Billy Thornton is like the best for that, and he
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: plays so exactly what he is.
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: So it's so good. Yeah, it's just him, it's literally him.
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: He's like such a good actor. And another one we
- 1:09:09Speaker 3: were watching was a Tulsa kame.
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: Yeah, crush all those that's really good too.
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: So far, so good. We just kind of started those,
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: so yeah, then I guess the shows would be like
- 1:09:18Speaker 3: a different thing.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: But there's a I can't believe he is like seventy
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: five years old. Now it's the alone.
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: Yeah, god man spots. But I did watch this one
- 1:09:28Speaker 3: Animals that was that was good, right, Yeah, that was
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: very good. I like that a lot.
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: Yeah, so you boys watching movies when football is on.
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: Not movies, but sometimes sometimes.
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: Shows and two TVs are like you following on your
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: on your phone as a computer laptop or computer iPad
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: and yeah, I got the show going or something.
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying I can't remember any any movies
- 1:09:55Speaker 3: or shows because usually i'm double dipping.
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: Yeah, making it so that it's done by the time required.
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: Like so I'm not missing at least the second half
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: in sweats and things like that.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: Absolutely not these things that would be the worst thing.
- 1:10:08Speaker 3: This is where I have never seen any Star Wars.
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: I've never seen any.
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know Spider Nuts, but Batman all that ship,
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: Like I can't do any of that, correct, but Batman.
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: One good movie though, It was what's the one with
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: Bane or whatever? That one was like Dark Knight. This
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: is a Dark Knight chair somewhere. I don't know where
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: it is.
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: This was a phenomenal game. You can't name me one
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: movie that I'd rather watch than Browns Titans yesterday.
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: That was.
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: That's when you get too bad teams, sometimes you get
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: some great games. That was a good game.
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: That was a joker.
- 1:10:47Speaker 3: We had a buddy that we nicknamed Dark Knight, like
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: totally normal dude, like so fun to hang out with,
- 1:10:53Speaker 3: like just an awesome guy. But when he got like
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: blacked out drunk, like alter ego. He would just like
- 1:10:59Speaker 3: flip a sweat, so we nicknamed him like dark Knight,
- 1:11:01Speaker 3: like you go crazy when he had to.
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: All right, we got a meeting to go to. I
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: forgot about, so we'll get off here now. But we'll
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: save it. We'll keep it rolling with like this one.
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: We have not exhausted like we did food. There's gonna
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: be some people that don't watch. We might have to
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: bring it back on a Sunday morning when we can
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: get all the comments in there. But as this, you know,
- 1:11:20Speaker 1: the weeks are progressing, we get closed. So usually during
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: the playoffs we do a ton of this stuff as well,
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: but it's always a good time. There's gonna be some
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: fun stuff, some more giveaways upcoming. Title. Any final thoughts
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: from you, my friend before we get out of here.
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: I know you're going for back to back tonight, you
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: and Rio both so exciting. Slight ahead for you guys.
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: Another great call out just for the win last night.
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: But anything else you want to add before we get
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: out of.
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: Here, I'll share it with one of you guys today.
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: I'll be very happily doing that. But no, good luck
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: to everybody out there. Yeah, it's a good football game.
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: Two teams that are definitely in the hunt, so I'm
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: ready for it.
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: Yeah, we're shipping NBA as well tonight. Again. Congrats to
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: new Ones big night the other night, five K take
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: took it down, so hopefully you have another good night
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: as well. Hoop anything final from you before we get out.
- 1:12:01Speaker 3: Oh, good luck to everyone tonight. It should be a
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: good game and keep the momentum going.
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: Yeah dah, we gotta send titles. Asked to go watch
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: that movie right now, hit up round. You won't regret it,
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: I promise you. It's like, yeah, titles. The Kinish as well.
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: He's like the guy like, stick to your edge, stick
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: to your game, play smart. You will be set for life.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: You will never have to worry about this. He's like,
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: let those people chase all those millie makers and the
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: idiots in the megas. I'm gonna grind people down for
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: twenty percent and make my cash that way.
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: And it's like nowadays, Tambo, It's it's tough out there.
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm a knit ish when it comes to
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: stuff like that for sure.
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: Yeah. No, great movie, great movie. Really appreciate you guys.
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: Thank you guys for watching for title for whoop, and
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: for myself toteg and tambo led ship.
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: It