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The Kenny Report | 30 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report. Thanks for joining me on
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Speaker 2: the Kenny Report tonight.
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Speaker 3: The peace deal floated by President Donald Trump for Gaza
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Speaker 3: Wyatt's more like an ultimatum. Kristen Tate will join me
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Speaker 3: from the US. The Reserve Bank leaves interest rates on
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Speaker 3: hold as figures reveal we've got the biggest spending federal
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Speaker 3: government in history.
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Speaker 2: Senator James Pattison will join me to talk about that,
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Speaker 2: and the.
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister, by the way, he's finally heading home from
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Speaker 3: that pretty humiliating overseas trip. Tim Blair joins me too,
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Speaker 3: plus Susio O'Brien and Stephen Santa Tiempo as Australia's biggest
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Speaker 3: celebrity couple un couples. Thanks to Caroline Marcus for filling
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Speaker 3: in last night. Congrats to the Lions for Saturday.
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Speaker 2: Let's get cracking.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister is still overseas, No seriously, Anthony up
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Speaker 3: is heading home from the Middle East, but he's not
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Speaker 3: home until tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: What a weird trip.
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Speaker 3: It's been more than ten days overseas at extraordinary expense,
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Speaker 3: of course, achieving nothing.
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Speaker 2: Turning up at a Lefty love festa.
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Speaker 3: The British Labor Party's conference, but a trip mainly noteworthy
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Speaker 3: for Albanese's desperation to see people he's opposed to, you know,
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Speaker 3: like most on the left. Of course, he's a big
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Speaker 3: critic of Donald Trump, but he couldn't wait to pounce
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Speaker 3: on the US President for a selfie in New York City.
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Speaker 3: It was more like a fanboy in the streets than
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Speaker 3: he was a fellow government leader looking to negotiate on
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Speaker 3: the big issues. Then there was the King, of course,
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Speaker 3: and again alber Ez. He went against his true feelings
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Speaker 3: with the staunch Republican sidling up to the British and
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Speaker 3: Australian monarch. Yeah it would be with the real Albo,
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Speaker 3: please stand up. And on his way back down under,
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Speaker 3: the PM stopped in on Abu Dhabi and he even
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Speaker 3: squeezed in a visit to the Grand Mosque there, waxing
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Speaker 3: lyrical about the glory of.
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Speaker 2: God, who is this man?
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Speaker 3: And when do we get the original Albo back. The
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Speaker 3: most telling point about his trip home was that Albinizi
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Speaker 3: did not visit Israel. He was in the neighborhood, but
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Speaker 3: did not drop in. Albo hasn't visited Israel in the
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Speaker 3: almost two years since the October the seventh atrocities.
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Speaker 2: In fact, he spent most of.
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Speaker 3: That period demonizing Israel, banning Israeli visitors, and being soft
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Speaker 3: on anti Semitism and Islamist extremism.
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Speaker 2: At home.
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Speaker 3: There is no word yet on whether the Home Affairs
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Speaker 3: Minister Tony Burke will be at the airport to meet
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister when he arrives home, but we doubt it.
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Speaker 3: Those pictures I showed you exclusively last week of Tony
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Speaker 3: Burke personally welcoming the latest contingent of up to fifty
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Speaker 3: refugees from Gaza when they arrived in Sydney have certainly
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Speaker 3: caused a bit of a stir.
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Speaker 4: We have very grave reservations about these people who've come
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Speaker 4: from Gaza because, of course, let's not forget Chris Garza.
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Speaker 5: Is controlled by Hamas.
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Speaker 3: Hamas is a terrorist group.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if he extends that same
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Speaker 6: courtesy to other incoming arrivals or groups of citizens. You know,
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Speaker 6: I would think that it's not something that a Home
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Speaker 6: Affairs Minister would normally do.
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Speaker 3: Burke has responded to this criticism by accusing the Coalition
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Speaker 3: of denigrating the Gas and refugees, which is a classic
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Speaker 3: case of verbaling and distraction. Of course, they were making
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Speaker 3: valid points, as was I last week, and voters have
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Speaker 3: every right to demand answers. The Home Affairs and Immigran
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Speaker 3: Minister has refused to answer the questions that we've put
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Speaker 3: to him about the cohort of people that were coming
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Speaker 3: in from Gaza and that were welcomed by him. We've
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Speaker 3: asked who this group was, who paid for their travel,
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Speaker 3: why the minister was there, why he made no announcement
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Speaker 3: about it, what security checks were made on these people
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Speaker 3: who were given visas, and also how many people in
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Speaker 3: total have arrived from Gaza and how many more are
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Speaker 3: we planning to accept. We've not received any response to
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Speaker 3: these reasonable questions, either last week or today. We've also
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Speaker 3: repeatedly asked the minister for an interview, and we've got
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Speaker 3: no response to that either. This lack of openness and
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Speaker 3: transparency about all this is quite extraordinary. No wonder many
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Speaker 3: people are anxious about this government's attitude to immigration.
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Speaker 2: Let me just give you more.
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Speaker 3: Evidence of why we as a society are doomed. It's
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Speaker 3: pretty depressing, I reckon you will have heard about the
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Speaker 3: controversy in Victoria, where it's been revealed there have been
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Speaker 3: seven biological males in women's prisons, yet seven transgender women,
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Speaker 3: some with histories of sexual violence, have been housed in
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Speaker 3: women's prisons in Victoria. Now this is just wrong on
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Speaker 3: so many levels. Of course, it's not hard to fix either.
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Speaker 3: We should just assign people based on their biological sex.
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Speaker 2: That's the science, it doesn't lie.
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Speaker 3: And as to how people dress or what they call themselves,
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Speaker 3: that's up to them. But when there are divisions for
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Speaker 3: sport or for facilities like prisons, then anything else based
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Speaker 3: on sex like it just has to be judged on
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Speaker 3: biology alone. That's what matters. Let the science rule anyway.
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Speaker 3: This stuff is only going to get worse in the future.
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Speaker 3: We know that because we know where the left of
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Speaker 3: center goments go on this sort of stuff, and where
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Speaker 3: the bureaucracies and the universities go. So let me show
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Speaker 3: you a little example that I stumbled across today. It's
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Speaker 3: a new university course being advertised. But as you'll see,
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Speaker 3: if this is how we're educating people, then no wonder
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Speaker 3: the population is getting dumber, and no wonder this sort
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Speaker 3: of gender based activism is getting worse. The course is
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Speaker 3: at the Canberra University, and it's for a graduate certificate
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Speaker 3: in gender policy, and it makes no bones about the
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Speaker 3: fact that it's trying to train people to be gender activists,
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Speaker 3: proudly boasting it's the first course of its kind. The
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Speaker 3: university says it's about policy and advocacy and it's designed
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Speaker 3: to help people challenge inequality and influence structural change. And
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Speaker 3: it goes on to say it's about making fairer systems
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Speaker 3: and helping to shape policy outcomes that advance gender justice.
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Speaker 2: You literally could not make this stuff up.
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Speaker 3: I'm half inclined to apply to see if I get
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Speaker 3: ruled out myself based on my gender.
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Speaker 2: The course promises study across four key.
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Speaker 3: Units LGBTQIA plus policy and advocacy, inclusive policy design, intersectionality
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Speaker 3: and leadership for equity, and strategic and ethical communication. It's
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Speaker 3: almost as though they are designing courses to deliberately undermine
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Speaker 3: our society and produce even more ridiculous protests and initiatives
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Speaker 3: in the future. This course promises highlights such as learning
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Speaker 3: to evaluate reform policy through a gender equity lens, and
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Speaker 3: building skills to design gender inclusive policy, and learning how
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Speaker 3: to drive change and become expert in gender advocacy, not
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Speaker 3: to mention, of course, applying intersectional and rights based approaches.
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Speaker 3: What do you do once you've finished this course? Get
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Speaker 3: a job with the Human Rights Commission or the Federal
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Speaker 3: Public Service, more likely in Canberra. This stuff is just
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Speaker 3: so inane, it's so unnecessary, and it's so damaging to
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Speaker 3: the way our society operates.
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Speaker 2: It's all reliant on government funding. Of course, your taxes
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Speaker 2: at work.
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Speaker 3: When you see this sort of stuff, it's difficult to
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Speaker 3: be anything but as a mystic about the direction we're
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Speaker 3: heading in The so called peace deal outlined by US
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Speaker 3: President Donald Trump in a White House announcement today with
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Speaker 3: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin at Yahoo represents a defining moment
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Speaker 3: in the Gaza War, which has been going now for
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Speaker 3: almost two years. This really amounts to an ultimatum for Hamas.
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Speaker 3: Either they agreed to this arrangement, hand over all the
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Speaker 3: hostages and lay down their weapons, or Israel will finish
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Speaker 3: the task of eliminating them from Gaza City.
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Speaker 7: Your plan provides a practical and realistic path forward for
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Speaker 7: Gaza in the coming years in which Gaza will be administered.
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Speaker 7: Neither by Kamas nor the Palestinian authority, but by those
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Speaker 7: committed to a genuine peace with Israel.
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Speaker 8: We can bring an end to the death and destruction
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Speaker 8: that we've seen for so many years, decades, even centuries,
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Speaker 8: and begin a new chapter of security, peace and prosperity
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Speaker 8: for the entire region.
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Speaker 3: The point here is that there's very little that's new
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Speaker 3: on the table now. The idea that Israel would not
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Speaker 3: annex Gaza.
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Speaker 2: No big deal, because there's never wanted to do that.
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Speaker 3: Israel handed Gaza over to the Palestinians twenty years ago,
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Speaker 3: why would it want Gaza back now after two years
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Speaker 3: of terror and war. The most important new aspect is
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Speaker 3: the structure of a body to run Gaza, and it's
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Speaker 3: one where former British PM Tony Blair would play a
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Speaker 3: pivotal role, but where the US President would call the shots,
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Speaker 3: as was probably always going to be the reality anyway.
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Speaker 3: The real point of the proposal is that it calls
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Speaker 3: out the deceptive rehtoric of Hummas, which is so often
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Speaker 3: echoed by Western media and politicians. Of course, it gives
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Speaker 3: the Palestinians what they say they want, which is pretty
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Speaker 3: much what they had before October.
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Speaker 2: The seventh, twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, an independently run area not occupied by Israel, will
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Speaker 3: Hummus accept this proposal.
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Speaker 2: It's unlikely they'll embrace it properly.
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Speaker 3: Humus, after all, is an Islamist extremist terrorism outfit committed
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Speaker 3: to the elimination of Israel, not the welfare of the
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Speaker 3: Palestinian people, so it could play games with this agreement,
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Speaker 3: or it could sign up to it then break the ceasefire,
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Speaker 3: as it's done many times before.
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Speaker 2: Of course, if.
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Speaker 3: The plan does go ahead, Israel and the world will
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Speaker 3: have to accept the reality of Hummas terrorists being released
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Speaker 3: from prisons and evacuated even from Gaza to other nations,
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Speaker 3: which will be a sickening sight given the horrors that
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Speaker 3: these Hummus terrorists have inflicted over the past two years.
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Speaker 3: But whatever happens, what's clear is that this is the
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Speaker 3: last chance.
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Speaker 2: If Hummus rejects this.
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Speaker 3: Offer or breaks the deal after accepting it, Israel will
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Speaker 3: finish the job of rooting out the terror group's leaders
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Speaker 3: in Gaza. And if that's the case, the rus that
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Speaker 3: most of the globe will Meetiam and most left of
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Speaker 3: center politicians have fallen for will be exposed because there
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Speaker 3: can't possibly be any reason for rejecting this offer, except,
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Speaker 3: of course, an evil ideological desire to kill Jews and
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Speaker 3: oppose the very existence of Israel.
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Speaker 2: At any cost.
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Speaker 3: Leaders like our own Prime Minister have been consistently weak
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Speaker 3: and wrong on Gaza. They've called for ceasefires at every turn,
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Speaker 3: before Hamas' leaders had been taken out, but before Iran
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Speaker 3: and Hezbllah had been defeated, and before the hostages, of
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Speaker 3: course have been released. Still Anthony Albanezi welcomed the proposal.
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Speaker 9: Today Australia affirms the plans commitment to denying Hamas any
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Speaker 9: role in the future governance of Gaza, calls on Hamas
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Speaker 9: to agree to the plan, lay down its arms, and
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Speaker 9: release all remaining hostages.
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Speaker 3: Well, there's no way that any of these things would
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Speaker 3: have happened if Alberanzi's repeated calls for ceasefires had been heeded.
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Speaker 3: The only reason Hummas might surrender now is because of
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Speaker 3: the Israeli Defense force assault on Gaza City, closing in
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Speaker 3: on Hamas's remaining leaders. But Alberanzi continues to talk about
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Speaker 3: this issue as if he's in some kind of fantasy world.
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Speaker 9: Australia will continue to support efforts to end the war
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Speaker 9: and work towards a just and sustainable to state solution.
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Speaker 3: Well, no, the only path to peace here has been
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Speaker 3: through Israel's continued military operation against Hamas, something that Alberanzi
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Speaker 3: has opposed time and time again. What Alba needs to
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Speaker 3: recognize is that his pathetic diplomacy on this issue, along
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Speaker 3: with other countries, that's only stymied efforts to end the
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Speaker 3: war and deliver peace. Remember, Hamas have been cheering his efforts.
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Speaker 3: The opportunity before us now is brought about only through
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Speaker 3: strength against Hummus. Let's hope Hummaus grasp the opportunity. But
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Speaker 3: given they are not rational actors, and given they are
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Speaker 3: an Islamist death cult, we should constrain our optimism. Let's
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Speaker 3: go now do shadow Finance Minister James Patterson, who joins
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Speaker 3: us from the Sydney CBD. James, I'll get your thoughts
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Speaker 3: on the Middle East in a moment, but I want
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Speaker 3: to start on your portfolio area, and that is the
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Speaker 3: decision of the Reserve Bank Board today to leave interest
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Speaker 3: rates where.
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Speaker 2: They are no further cuts. What does that tell us
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Speaker 2: about where we're heading?
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Speaker 5: Just as much as the decision to put rates on
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Speaker 5: hold today is the very cautious language from the RBA
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Speaker 5: Governor Michelle Bullock about any further rate cuts that I
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Speaker 5: think will be a devastating blow for a lot of
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Speaker 5: Australian households, particularly those you have big mortgages who are
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Speaker 5: hoping for a number of more interest rate reductions under
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Speaker 5: this government's watch, because the average mortgage holder is about
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Speaker 5: twenty thousand dollars worse off today even after three rate
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Speaker 5: cuts than they were before Labor came to office, and
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Speaker 5: they'll be incredibly discouraged by the recent uptick inflation in
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Speaker 5: the monthly data and terribly worried with the RBA's new
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Speaker 5: posture towards inflation and therefore interest rates. The truth is, Chris,
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Speaker 5: that didn't have to be this way. The government doesn't
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Speaker 5: control everything that happens in our economy, but the one
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Speaker 5: thing they do have total control over is government spending,
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Speaker 5: and the elevated rates of government spending at almost forty
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Speaker 5: year highs are putting upward pressure on inflation and therefore
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Speaker 5: upward pressure on interest rates.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's something we've been talking about on this program
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Speaker 3: for many years. Of course, high levels of government spending
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Speaker 3: feed into inflation. Now the alb and Easy government knows that.
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Speaker 3: Jim Chalmers must know that. Yet, as you say, the
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Speaker 3: new analysis today shows that spend forty year highs if
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Speaker 3: you take the pandemic spending out of it, they just
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Speaker 3: continued to increase government spending to these record levels. Now
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Speaker 3: there are consequences, right if you're going to have such
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Speaker 3: a big share, such big spending from government, there are consequences.
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Speaker 3: Do you believe that this inflation genie is not quite
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Speaker 3: back in the bottle yet?
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Speaker 5: I fear that that's the case. I hope that the
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Speaker 5: quarterly data released in late October is more encouraging than
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Speaker 5: these recent monthly data reports have been. But I am
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Speaker 5: worried because of what you say, Chris. I mean, the
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Speaker 5: only thing you need to know about Jim Chalmer's inability
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Speaker 5: to manage a budget is that he's collecting today twenty
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Speaker 5: five year high tax has hikes are the greatest proportion
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Speaker 5: of the economy in twenty five years, and he's still
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Speaker 5: running a budget deficit. The last time a government was
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Speaker 5: collecting this much tax as a percentage of GENP was
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Speaker 5: the Howard Costello government when they're running huge budget surpluses
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Speaker 5: to pay down Labour's debt, and when they finished doing that,
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Speaker 5: they gave some of the largest tax cuts as a
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Speaker 5: proportion of the economy in our history. There's no site
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Speaker 5: of either on Jim Chalmer's watch. We're not going to
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Speaker 5: get the budget deficits, nor are we going to get
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Speaker 5: the really meaningful tax cuts that would return some of
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Speaker 5: the bracket creep he's stolen from workers over the last
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Speaker 5: three years.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a hell of a worry. We'll talk to
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Speaker 3: you in coming months. And he has no doubt about
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Speaker 3: where some of that spending can be trimmed in the
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Speaker 3: years to come.
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Speaker 2: But it's got to be it's got to be constrained,
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Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 3: I do want to get your thoughts, given your background
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Speaker 3: and expertise in foreign affairs and defense issues, on this
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Speaker 3: latest deal we were proposed by Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: It certainly is an ultimatum to Hummus, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: But there can be no logical or rational or humanitarian
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Speaker 3: reason for HMAS to reject this deal.
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Speaker 5: Chris, any sane and rational person should want the hostages
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Speaker 5: to be released. A musk to be dismantled so that
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Speaker 5: the war can end and the rebuilding of Gaza can begin.
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Speaker 5: Raelis can again live in security and peace. And the
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Speaker 5: only way that that happens is if Hamas accepts what
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Speaker 5: is a very reasonable offer from Israel and the United States, which,
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Speaker 5: as you pointed out in your editorial, has some very
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Speaker 5: bitter pills for Israel to swallow, including the release of
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Speaker 5: Hamas terrorists currently in jails in Israel. That will be
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Speaker 5: a very tough thing for the Israeli public to have
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Speaker 5: to accept, but it is a demonstration of their commitment
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Speaker 5: to wanting to end this conflict that they are willing
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Speaker 5: to do that in exchange for release of the hostages
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Speaker 5: and dismantling of a mass There's no reasonable ground for
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Speaker 5: any reasonable party to refuse this offer. I fear that,
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Speaker 5: as you do, though, that Harmas will either refuse to
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Speaker 5: accept it or will accept it in name only and
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Speaker 5: continue to wage their campaign of terror against Israel. And
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Speaker 5: it is incumbent on the entire international community to put
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Speaker 5: pressure on Hamas and their sponsors internationally to accept this
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Speaker 5: reasonable offer.
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Speaker 3: We will wait and see. James Patterson, Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 3: Servace to James Patterson. The joining us from Sydney. It
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Speaker 3: is early in the day in the Middle East now,
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Speaker 3: and there may be more news coming out of the
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Speaker 3: Middle East as the day progresses.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Israel though, and catch.
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Speaker 3: Up again with Gerald Steinberger as the professor of politics
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Speaker 3: at Bailan University.
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Speaker 2: Joins us Life from Jerusalem.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us again, Gerald, tell us about your
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Speaker 3: assessment of this deal that Donald Trumps put on the
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Speaker 3: table with Benjamin Ettanyahu.
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Speaker 1: Well, this announcement and it was a very dramatic and
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Speaker 1: long statement that Trump delivered in the Tanyahu was standing
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Speaker 1: in the corner waiting for Trump to finish. But it
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Speaker 1: is a dramatic change. It actually might bring about some
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Speaker 1: change in the region in the conflict, perhaps the release
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Speaker 1: of hostages, all the hostages within seventy two hours. I'll
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Speaker 1: get into a minute why we have to be careful
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Speaker 1: and it totally makes a mockery of this chorus, this
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Speaker 1: theater that we saw, and your Prime Minister was there.
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Speaker 1: You just discussed that declaring and recognizing a non existent
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Speaker 1: palace in state which had absolutely zero impact, provided nothing
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Speaker 1: of significance.
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Speaker 10: On the contrary, it was counter productive.
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Speaker 1: Will the Trump plan the twenty or twenty one point
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Speaker 1: plan actually bring about a fundamental change, where I'm a little.
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Speaker 10: Bit se cautious, skeptical.
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Speaker 1: Israelis are until the hostages are seen, until they are released.
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Speaker 10: There's no deal.
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Speaker 1: And Hamas has said, we're studying the plan, and usually
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Speaker 1: what that means is they're going to ask for changes,
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Speaker 1: They're going.
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Speaker 10: To demand changes. And the key issue here is Katar.
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Speaker 1: That's why, then D'atagian, who caught our phone conversation engineered
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Speaker 1: by Trump, was so important. If Katar squeezes Kamas, They're
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Speaker 1: the only friends they've got is Katar, except they ran,
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Speaker 1: of course.
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Speaker 10: Which is powerless to help them right now.
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Speaker 1: So if Katar, the a mirror of Katar, the royal
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Speaker 1: family of the dictatorship in the oil rich dictatorship in
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Speaker 1: the corner of the Middle East says to Hamas, you've
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Speaker 1: got a complyer. We're throwing you all out and cutting
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Speaker 1: off the lifeline. We may actually see some movement on this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be welcome if that pressure led to
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Speaker 3: any change. Of course, it does sound very much like
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Speaker 3: an ultimatum rather than the peace deal. It's an ultimation
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Speaker 3: ultimatum to ham Us to agree to this or face
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Speaker 3: that final onslaught in Gaza City. Here's Benjamin Netanyahu on
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Speaker 3: what's at stake here.
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Speaker 7: All these goals must be achieved because we didn't fight
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Speaker 7: this horrible fight, sacrifice the finest of our young men,
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Speaker 7: to have Hamas stay in Gaza and threaten us again
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Speaker 7: and again and again with these horrific massacres.
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Speaker 3: Gerald one way another or another, whether they accept this deal,
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Speaker 3: laid down their arms and disappear, they're gonna go according
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Speaker 3: to this ultimatum from Benjamin Netnahu.
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Speaker 1: That's the reason that there's a chance that Hamas will
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Speaker 1: now maybe reluctantly be forced to accept the terms of
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Speaker 1: the deal to release the hostages, to at least go
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Speaker 1: through the motion of disarming, is because Israel's maintaining this
22:02
Speaker 1: huge military pressure. The fact that the Israeli army is
22:06
Speaker 1: in the middle of the last stronghold that Thamas has,
22:09
Speaker 1: Gaza City, and moving forward and dismantling the Kamas infrastructure,
22:14
Speaker 1: underneath the hospitals, underneath the tall towers that are supposedly
22:18
Speaker 1: residential buildings, all of that Kamas is every day being
22:23
Speaker 1: reduced in its capabilities, and therefore they have to make
22:26
Speaker 1: that decision and they say to studying the plan again.
22:30
Speaker 1: I think it's important that Katar squeezes.
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Speaker 10: Them even more.
22:34
Speaker 1: If they don't, You're right, the war will continue. Unfortunately,
22:39
Speaker 1: it will be very hard to get the hostages back
22:42
Speaker 1: unless Commas agrees, because they are basically human shields. If
22:47
Speaker 1: Israel finds them, Thamas will kill them. So it's a
22:51
Speaker 1: very very very delicate situation for the hostages. But the
22:55
Speaker 1: bigger picture of the long term political picture.
22:58
Speaker 10: Is there will be no more Kammas.
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Speaker 1: Either it will be dismantled by Israel or it will
23:03
Speaker 1: be dismantled by this international commission. That Trump is going
23:07
Speaker 1: to be the head of this board. But basically it
23:10
Speaker 1: means that they will then work with Israel to force
23:14
Speaker 1: the removal of all Kamas capabilities. I want to point
23:16
Speaker 1: out one quick thing. About a year ago we had
23:19
Speaker 1: this conflict where Israel took down all of the Hamas,
23:23
Speaker 1: all Thebala rather than Lebanon capabilities.
23:26
Speaker 10: Now there's still that there some left.
23:28
Speaker 1: They have lots of storehouses and weapons, and there's a
23:30
Speaker 1: cease fire, and yet every single day Israel is destroying
23:35
Speaker 1: more and more of the remaining Pisabala capability and the
23:38
Speaker 1: military personnel the commanders. Because the ceasefire said there will
23:42
Speaker 1: be no more threats to Israel. Hamas has not disarmed,
23:45
Speaker 1: so Israel is doing it. We may see a similar
23:47
Speaker 1: scenario with Hamas in the in Gaza, as we saw
23:51
Speaker 1: in his Bowel and Lebanon.
23:55
Speaker 3: Gerald, thanks so much for joining us, Gerald Steinberg live
23:59
Speaker 3: from Jerusalem. And I don't forget one year and fifty
24:02
Speaker 3: one weeks those twenty hostages who are still alive have
24:06
Speaker 3: been in Hummas' captivity. Now we've got to get to
24:09
Speaker 3: a break on the other side, or catch up with
24:10
Speaker 3: Tim Blair, will unpack some of the climate alarmism doing
24:13
Speaker 3: the rounds. Also check in on the renewables rollout that's
24:17
Speaker 3: recklessly rushing right across this country. Let's catch up with
24:24
Speaker 3: Tim Blair from the Daily Telegraph, joining us live from
24:27
Speaker 3: the Wimme in western Victoria. Tim, I saw your short
24:30
Speaker 3: saying you're with the Daily Telegraph because I noticed your
24:32
Speaker 3: column is syndicated.
24:33
Speaker 2: Now I saw it in the Adelaide Advertiser today.
24:36
Speaker 3: Ripping a column again pointing out some of the nuttiness
24:41
Speaker 3: of climate alarmism. It's a rich field that just feeds
24:44
Speaker 3: you endless lines doesn't it.
24:47
Speaker 11: I'm a sustainable industry, Chris. I just keep They just
24:52
Speaker 11: keep feeding me, and I keep lapping up. I'm not
24:54
Speaker 11: going to complain. But it's reaching sort of new peaks.
24:58
Speaker 11: I think maybe is the movement is struggling a little bit.
25:01
Speaker 11: There's been a bit of there's been some reversals on
25:03
Speaker 11: issues like electric vehicles and so on, and I think
25:05
Speaker 11: there might be in this sort of a panic mode
25:09
Speaker 11: at the moment.
25:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the exaggerations, there's more and more of
25:14
Speaker 3: the exaggerations are caught out.
25:15
Speaker 2: Instead of instead of.
25:17
Speaker 3: Being more rational and being more moderate with their language,
25:20
Speaker 3: You're right, they areck it up and get even even
25:22
Speaker 3: more hysterical about it. You picked out some beautiful stuff
25:26
Speaker 3: in your column where you highlighted how the Guardian Australia
25:30
Speaker 3: website this is Turnbull times. Paul Murray calls it to
25:33
Speaker 3: Malcolm turn will help to get them set up in Australia.
25:37
Speaker 3: They're all doom and gloom on the on, the on
25:40
Speaker 3: the weather and the planet and we're all going to die.
25:42
Speaker 3: But then if you look at their cooking, their cooking articles,
25:46
Speaker 3: everything suddenly sweetness and nice.
25:49
Speaker 2: That can't make up their mind, which is true.
25:52
Speaker 11: Well, they've got to be wrong about one side or
25:54
Speaker 11: the other, don't they, Chris, Like, on the one side,
25:56
Speaker 11: as the column points out, they're all, you know, we're
25:59
Speaker 11: all going to die terrible, that the climate's disaster. You know,
26:02
Speaker 11: there's no future. And then on the other hand, they're like,
26:04
Speaker 11: look at these lovely, lovely spring recipes for salads and such,
26:08
Speaker 11: and it's been coming out of They actually describe winter,
26:10
Speaker 11: as you know, as cozy weather. Now, come on, guys,
26:15
Speaker 11: pick a side. Everything's either smooth sailing and no problems
26:19
Speaker 11: or we're all going to die in molten lava. Just
26:22
Speaker 11: just be consistent, otherwise you'll get done for misinformation. I'd
26:25
Speaker 11: hate to see that happen.
26:29
Speaker 2: Look, cooking is going to be easy. If you go
26:31
Speaker 2: with the alarm Us route, that cooking is going to
26:33
Speaker 2: be easy.
26:33
Speaker 3: You just chuck your lamb out onto the back porch
26:36
Speaker 3: and that'll be taken care of.
26:37
Speaker 11: By the weather absolutely well, you know, depending on how
26:41
Speaker 11: rare you'd want it. Like you know, out here in
26:43
Speaker 11: the bush, we just chuck it out there. Anyway to
26:46
Speaker 11: get your knife and fork and go for it.
26:51
Speaker 3: Now, we're always going to be resolved in Gaza forget
26:53
Speaker 3: about Donald Trump's a peace plan with Benjamin Nett and Yahoo,
26:56
Speaker 3: Greta Tumberg's on our way with the Floatilla. They's to
27:00
Speaker 3: be taking an inordinately long time to get there. Anyone
27:03
Speaker 3: would imagine they don't really want to arrive on the
27:05
Speaker 3: shores of Gaza. But in this interview, Greta Tomberg has
27:09
Speaker 3: rejected the suggestion that this is all a publicity start.
27:12
Speaker 10: Ever.
27:13
Speaker 12: Look, first of all, I don't think anyone would rest
27:16
Speaker 12: your life or a publicistant. Second of all, if you
27:19
Speaker 12: think it's a publicity dutt, how you asked the people
27:22
Speaker 12: in Gaza if they consider this to be a publicity stance?
27:26
Speaker 12: And I repeat, this mission should not have to exist.
27:28
Speaker 12: We do not want to be doing this, but we have.
27:31
Speaker 13: To keep trying.
27:32
Speaker 12: Right if we just thought to ourselves, well, I'm just
27:36
Speaker 12: one person. I can't think it different than no one
27:38
Speaker 12: of us, almost no wonder us what happened?
27:40
Speaker 14: It writes by now.
27:42
Speaker 3: Just ask the people of Gaza, Tim Apparently they'll tell
27:45
Speaker 3: you that Greta Tomberg, it's no publicity stunt.
27:49
Speaker 11: Oh no. And well two things, Chris One, everything she's
27:53
Speaker 11: ever done has been a publicity stunt. From her school
27:56
Speaker 11: strike for climate to Now that's her whole life. She
27:59
Speaker 11: doesn't think exactly have a lot of things to compare
28:02
Speaker 11: her publicity stunt existence too. The other thing is that
28:05
Speaker 11: line about no one would ever risk their lives for
28:08
Speaker 11: a publicity stunt. She ever heard of Evil Knievel? Has
28:11
Speaker 11: she ever heard of circus performers? Has she ever heard
28:13
Speaker 11: about the flying will lenders, the typewrope walkers. Millions of
28:18
Speaker 11: people have risked their lives in publicity stunts, and if
28:22
Speaker 11: they succeed, they make a lot of money. I'm not
28:25
Speaker 11: saying that she's in it for the cash, but it's
28:27
Speaker 11: hard to imagine at this point what she's in it for.
28:30
Speaker 11: Otherwise it's a ridiculous lifestyle.
28:34
Speaker 3: If she's not in it for publicity, then there's no
28:37
Speaker 3: other reasons she's in it.
28:38
Speaker 2: It was lovely that she was denying the.
28:40
Speaker 3: Publicity stunt while she was in fact engaged on the
28:43
Speaker 3: publicity interview from the boat.
28:48
Speaker 2: Speak to my publicists. She'll explain to you that this
28:50
Speaker 2: is no publicity stunt.
28:52
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Tim, We'll catch up with you
28:54
Speaker 3: later in the week as well, Tim Blair, they're ready
28:56
Speaker 3: stuff in the Daddy Telegraph all around the country and
28:58
Speaker 3: the news corps, tabloids and online on the other side
29:01
Speaker 3: of the break, going to get more into this piece
29:03
Speaker 3: offort for Gaza that's been put together by President Donald
29:06
Speaker 3: Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netyaho will catch up with
29:09
Speaker 3: Christen Tape in the US. The statistics on the renewable
29:17
Speaker 3: energy rollout are incredible. New figures from conservation Stephen Nwolkowski,
29:23
Speaker 3: who we've interviewed on this program several times.
29:26
Speaker 2: So the scale of Labour's Green Dream.
29:29
Speaker 3: One thousand projects costing one point three trillion dollars is
29:34
Speaker 3: what's needed, including twenty five thousand more wind towers and
29:38
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty million solar panels, which is equivalent
29:42
Speaker 3: to almost all of metropolitan Sydney and parts of the
29:45
Speaker 3: Blue Mountains and the Campbelltown area as well in Sydney's southwest.
29:50
Speaker 2: Now.
29:50
Speaker 3: Rakowski has shared some of his animations of the extent
29:55
Speaker 3: of this rollout previously and he's done that today with
29:58
Speaker 3: the Australian newspaper as well. It's these pictures that help
30:02
Speaker 3: people understand the extent of this roll out and the
30:06
Speaker 3: damage that it's doing to our environment. Here's Stephen Alkowski
30:10
Speaker 3: speaking with us previously.
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Speaker 15: We've now counted around seventeen thousand, one hundred and nineteen
30:17
Speaker 15: proposed turbines for the country. For the entire country, there's
30:23
Speaker 15: already four thousand, one hundred and seventy eight turbines that
30:27
Speaker 15: are existing. In Queensland alone, we've got three thousand, three
30:33
Speaker 15: hundred and sixty five turbines that are proposed and that
30:37
Speaker 15: will deliver around twenty two gigawatt name plate capacity. But
30:43
Speaker 15: that's if all those turbines were running flats wrap at
30:46
Speaker 15: one hundred percent, which they don't.
30:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's from a year ago. It's all gone up
30:52
Speaker 3: since then. It's just extraordinary. This is what you need
30:55
Speaker 3: to do if you're.
30:56
Speaker 2: Going to deliver what Chris Bowen says he's going to
30:58
Speaker 2: deliver in terms of renewable Let me bring in.
31:01
Speaker 3: And Webster, the Member for malle In Victorious who's the
31:03
Speaker 3: Shadow Minister for Regional Development, joining us from Mildura.
31:07
Speaker 2: And this is extraordinary, isn't it.
31:09
Speaker 3: The numbers here as if we haven't seen enough disruption
31:13
Speaker 3: and bush land.
31:14
Speaker 2: And farmland ruin with wind.
31:16
Speaker 3: Farms and solar factories and transmission lines the extent, about
31:21
Speaker 3: how much more is planned is just quite incredible.
31:28
Speaker 4: It is, Chris, It's actually overwhelming. It's overwhelming for all
31:32
Speaker 4: the farmers in my electorate. I've been meeting with them
31:36
Speaker 4: again this week and hearing of the concerns that they
31:40
Speaker 4: have and the impact on their agricultural land. You know,
31:44
Speaker 4: there is a saying in my patch that they don't
31:48
Speaker 4: want mines lines or turbines and it's impacting their agricultural output.
31:55
Speaker 4: They're concerned about that, and we need to have a
31:59
Speaker 4: national all planned to protect prime agricultural land. I believe
32:04
Speaker 4: this is now reached an incredibly serious place where Chris
32:10
Speaker 4: Bowen can continue to you know, mouth his platitudes and
32:14
Speaker 4: his idealistic green dream as you called it. Meanwhile, farming
32:19
Speaker 4: communities out in the regions are the ones who are
32:22
Speaker 4: bearing the brunt of this. It's just honestly awful and
32:28
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going to stop it other than
32:30
Speaker 4: a new government.
32:34
Speaker 7: Yeah.
32:34
Speaker 3: Well, and look, and I don't want to downplay the
32:37
Speaker 3: farming side of it. That's crucial, as you well know,
32:40
Speaker 3: and as we've found out in speaking to communities right
32:43
Speaker 3: around the country over the past couple of years. But
32:45
Speaker 3: there's there's also the bushland and the forests. You know,
32:48
Speaker 3: anyone who's a conservationist ought to be concerned about the
32:52
Speaker 3: Christine bushland that's been leveled to put in the wind
32:56
Speaker 3: farms and the like. And Stephen Nilkowski is doing great
32:59
Speaker 3: work and all credit to him, but he's actually pulling
33:03
Speaker 3: together the statistics and showing with maps and animations what's unfolding.
33:09
Speaker 3: I would have thought it was incumbent upon Chris Bowen
33:12
Speaker 3: and the Albanezi Labor government actually to be showing this
33:15
Speaker 3: to the Australian public. If they want to claim that
33:18
Speaker 3: we're going to get to net zero, that we're saving
33:20
Speaker 3: the planet, they should be open and upfront with the
33:22
Speaker 3: Australian public explaining to them exactly how many of these
33:26
Speaker 3: projects are going in and where.
33:31
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I totally agree with you. But you know, what
33:35
Speaker 4: we're seeing from the Albanesi government is a complete lack
33:38
Speaker 4: of transparency. It doesn't matter what the subject is. They
33:41
Speaker 4: have no intention of allowing the public to be brought
33:45
Speaker 4: along for the journey. All those soft words that we
33:48
Speaker 4: heard before the last election and the election before and
33:52
Speaker 4: Australians are being left in the dark and we find
33:54
Speaker 4: out the hard way. I'm so grateful that Steven has
33:57
Speaker 4: put this work together, and so many others who are
34:01
Speaker 4: really forming the army, if you like, with conservationists siding
34:07
Speaker 4: with agricultural farmers together. We need to be able to
34:12
Speaker 4: argue this before the government. I'm really hoping that Senate
34:16
Speaker 4: estimates coming up very shortly will expose some of what
34:20
Speaker 4: the Labor Party continue to try and hide.
34:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should not be hiding this stuff. They're supposed
34:28
Speaker 3: to be proud of it. Thanks so much for joining
34:30
Speaker 3: us again, and I appreciate it, Am Webster there. This
34:32
Speaker 3: is so important for regional communities especially, but for anybody
34:36
Speaker 3: who cares about our farmers, cares about our regional landscapes,
34:39
Speaker 3: and cares about our bushland.
34:41
Speaker 2: You're going to be upfront about this stuff.
34:42
Speaker 3: Stephen NOWL Calsei last I checked, was going to be
34:44
Speaker 3: on air with Peter tonight too, So you check in
34:47
Speaker 3: on that one in the next hour. Now, I'm going
34:50
Speaker 3: to cross to our US contributor, Christen Titan just a moment,
34:52
Speaker 3: but first I want to go back to this White
34:55
Speaker 3: House twenty point piece plan for Gaza. Here's the Donald
34:59
Speaker 3: Truy outlining some of the details today.
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Speaker 13: If accepted by Hamasu's proposal calls for the release of
35:07
Speaker 13: all remaining hostages immediately, but in no case more than
35:13
Speaker 13: seventy two hours, so the hostages are coming back.
35:18
Speaker 3: There was saying plenty of efforts from Donald Trump, be
35:20
Speaker 3: and Benjamin Netanyahu in the past to end this war.
35:23
Speaker 3: I asked Kristen tight how this lightest plan is being
35:26
Speaker 3: received in the US.
35:29
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's kind of being received with cautious optimism. I
35:33
Speaker 14: suppose Trump laid out a twenty point planned ending the
35:37
Speaker 14: war and establishing kind of a post war Gaza governance.
35:41
Speaker 14: The plan does not require people to leave Gaza and
35:44
Speaker 14: calls for an immediate end to the war. If both
35:47
Speaker 14: sides accept it, and you know, Israeli forces horses would
35:52
Speaker 14: withdraw operations, all the hostages would be released. So on paper,
35:57
Speaker 14: this plan seems pretty good, I will say, and it
36:01
Speaker 14: pains me to see that. I suspect that seeing lasting
36:06
Speaker 14: peace in this region is probably not what's going to
36:10
Speaker 14: happen in the immediate future. This is a conflict that's
36:13
Speaker 14: been going on for a very long time. But this
36:17
Speaker 14: is a great step in the right direction. Trump clearly
36:20
Speaker 14: wants to get this done, and he has said that
36:23
Speaker 14: he's hearing the other side wants to get something done
36:25
Speaker 14: as well, so we'll see what happens. Hamas is currently
36:28
Speaker 14: reviewing the terms of the deal.
36:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the problem you're dealing with, Hamas.
36:33
Speaker 3: You're not dealing with rational acting, as you're dealing with ideologues,
36:36
Speaker 3: with these lit mystic extremists. And in many ways, what
36:39
Speaker 3: Trump is offering is what's been offered so many times
36:42
Speaker 3: before in this conflict. The difference here is that he's
36:44
Speaker 3: saying it's not a cease fire. This would be the
36:47
Speaker 3: end of the war, and as you mentioned, there would
36:49
Speaker 3: be this body form to oversee. Guys, let's have a
36:53
Speaker 3: look at what the President says about that.
36:56
Speaker 8: To ensure the success of this effort, my plan calls
36:59
Speaker 8: for the of a new international oversight body, the Board
37:04
Speaker 8: of Peace. Israel and everybody involved asked me to do this,
37:08
Speaker 8: so it would be headed by a gentleman known as
37:11
Speaker 8: President Donald J. Trump of the United States.
37:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the President says he's effectively been asked to
37:16
Speaker 3: do this to hit up this body.
37:17
Speaker 2: This could be a problem if it comes to eventuality.
37:21
Speaker 3: If this actually is in place, it's going to be
37:23
Speaker 3: pretty difficult for the President to be sitting on this body.
37:27
Speaker 3: But that's a long way, officer. But I was going
37:30
Speaker 3: to see whether or not this sticks. But then you
37:32
Speaker 3: have the US, through the President, effectively taking responsibility for
37:37
Speaker 3: the rehabilitation, the rebuilding, and the establishment re establishment of Gaza.
37:45
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's exactly right. And look, I think Donald Trump
37:48
Speaker 14: clearly wants the Middle East peace to be part of
37:50
Speaker 14: his legacy. He seems to be willing to do lots
37:53
Speaker 14: of different things to try to make that happen. But again,
37:55
Speaker 14: I just want to emphasize that is probably going to
37:58
Speaker 14: be a long shot. Even if Hamas were to agree
38:02
Speaker 14: to this deal or some sort of similar deal, all
38:04
Speaker 14: it takes Chris is just thirty radicalized Palestinians to conduct
38:08
Speaker 14: another October seventh style attack against Israeli citizens and we're
38:13
Speaker 14: right back where we started. This is a cultural problem,
38:17
Speaker 14: and as long as anti Semitism kind of is festering
38:20
Speaker 14: in this kind of part of the area of the
38:22
Speaker 14: globe as it is today, this is a problem that's
38:25
Speaker 14: probably always going to be there until that cultural problem
38:29
Speaker 14: is fixed. So I'm not sure this is something that
38:32
Speaker 14: can be done with a simple deal in terms of lasting.
38:35
Speaker 3: Peace, but maybe we can have.
38:39
Speaker 14: Temporary peace at least that would be good, and I
38:42
Speaker 14: think that's kind of what's being pushed for at this point.
38:45
Speaker 14: An end to this war, even if it's just temporary peace,
38:48
Speaker 14: would be better than ongoing conflict in the near term.
38:52
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we'll want place, We'll want innocent civilians in particular
38:56
Speaker 3: to be out of Ham's Why but you did right
38:58
Speaker 3: when it comes to is the mist extremism, that's an
39:00
Speaker 3: ideal ology that that's the problem here, these fanatics.
39:04
Speaker 2: Who will do anything, including.
39:07
Speaker 3: Kill themselves and have others killed, in order to get
39:09
Speaker 3: rid of Israel. And that's why I think these comments
39:12
Speaker 3: from the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin nett Yaho are so
39:16
Speaker 3: important to have a look.
39:17
Speaker 7: If Hamas rejudge your plan, mister President, or if they
39:22
Speaker 7: supposedly accepted and then then basically do everything to counter it,
39:30
Speaker 7: then is you will finish the job by itself. This
39:35
Speaker 7: can be done the easy way, or it can be
39:38
Speaker 7: done the hard way, but it will be done.
39:43
Speaker 13: Yeah.
39:43
Speaker 3: In many ways, Christian, this is the most important call
39:45
Speaker 3: because look, we all want peace, and let's hope Harmas
39:48
Speaker 3: comes to its senses and accepts this opportunity. But if
39:51
Speaker 3: they don't, or if they play games or if they
39:54
Speaker 3: accept the deal and then break a cease fire. What
39:57
Speaker 3: Benjamin Netanya who is saying is that they will go
39:59
Speaker 3: and finish off hamas in Gaza City. And obviously Donald
40:03
Speaker 3: Trump is saying he would support them in doing that
40:05
Speaker 3: because so I saved one while or the other the
40:08
Speaker 3: andes inside.
40:10
Speaker 14: I sure hope so, and you're right, Donald Trump made
40:13
Speaker 14: it very clear that America will fully back Israel in
40:16
Speaker 14: those efforts to put an end to it. It was interesting, though,
40:19
Speaker 14: Trump spoke for about thirty minutes, and he did kind
40:22
Speaker 14: of needle Ntnyall who in certain ways. He mentioned a
40:25
Speaker 14: few times the ongoing protests in Israel for that we're
40:28
Speaker 14: calling for an end to the war. I think Trump
40:31
Speaker 14: is also very aware that here in America, an increasing
40:34
Speaker 14: percentage of Americans are starting to kind of turn on
40:38
Speaker 14: Natan Yallho and Israel. That's in part because of the
40:41
Speaker 14: very bias media here in the United States. But Trump
40:44
Speaker 14: is looking to get something done here and I think
40:48
Speaker 14: he struck a good balance there. But ultimately, yes, he
40:51
Speaker 14: was very supportive of Nettan Yaho and we fully back
40:55
Speaker 14: Israel if they need to take whatever actions that need
40:58
Speaker 14: to be taken to put an end to this and
41:00
Speaker 14: hopefully install peace.
41:02
Speaker 3: Hey, Christa, let's take it back to us domestic politics.
41:05
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, Kamala Harris has got a book out that
41:10
Speaker 3: means we're saying and hearing white stay much from her
41:13
Speaker 3: of light to have a listened to this the lightest
41:15
Speaker 3: comment from the former vice president of course presidential candidate
41:20
Speaker 3: at a time such as this, it demands one thing
41:26
Speaker 3: for sure.
41:28
Speaker 2: We must fight fire with fire.
41:33
Speaker 14: So CBC, let's get.
41:35
Speaker 2: To work fighting fire with fire. Christian Atoy was supposed
41:39
Speaker 2: to be into peace and love the Democrats.
41:43
Speaker 14: I thought so too. But yes, Kamala Harris's speaking tour
41:48
Speaker 14: has just been incredible. I love it. I am begging
41:52
Speaker 14: the Democrats please please please make her your nominee again
41:56
Speaker 14: in the next election cycle, because this woman is just
42:01
Speaker 14: She is a word salad machine.
42:05
Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 14: Nothing she says is coherent. And it's incredible, Chris, because
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Speaker 14: I look at these polls and Democrats still say they
42:15
Speaker 14: want her to be their nominee again next time. She's
42:17
Speaker 14: still considered the front runner. I mean, I know it's early,
42:20
Speaker 14: but she still polls very well with Democrat voters. They
42:23
Speaker 14: love her, so please guys nominate her again. I would
42:27
Speaker 14: love to have jd Vance or whoever the Republican nominee
42:30
Speaker 14: is run against Harris again. It would be fabulous.
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Speaker 2: We are on a unity ticket.
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Speaker 3: Kristin absolutely, Kamala Harris, boost is Jdi Vans bring it on.
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Speaker 2: Thanks doing us next week. Thank you, Chris, Tamala Harris,
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Speaker 2: give me a break.
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Speaker 3: Stick around after the break, says Braun, and Steven Santa
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Speaker 3: Tiampa will join us. One of the things we'll talk
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Speaker 3: about is news about Australia's biggest celebrity couple.
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Speaker 2: I'm coupling.
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Speaker 3: Let's catch up with our Tuesday panel now with Susi
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Speaker 3: O'Brien joining us from Melbourne and Steven Sana Tiempo in Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to you both, Susie.
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Speaker 3: Interest rates left where they are today. That's it. Apparently
43:16
Speaker 3: no more interest rate cuts. Surely they're not going to
43:18
Speaker 3: leave it here. They went up time and time again.
43:21
Speaker 3: Our rates are still far higher than they used to be.
43:24
Speaker 3: We're going to have some more relief sometime soon.
43:26
Speaker 2: Surely.
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Speaker 16: Well a lot of people were saying this was our
43:30
Speaker 16: best chance of getting it this year, and they're not
43:33
Speaker 16: expecting it to happen.
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Speaker 12: Later in the year.
43:35
Speaker 16: But you know, you look at the rate of spending
43:38
Speaker 16: by this government up eight percent. Both the OECD and
43:43
Speaker 16: the IMF are begging the government to employ a bit
43:46
Speaker 16: more fiscal restraint. So what can you You know, it
43:50
Speaker 16: was unlikely that we were going to get any good
43:53
Speaker 16: news from the Reserve Bank today.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and in surprising news. Jim Chalmers is front of
44:01
Speaker 3: the media today and as usual his line is that
44:04
Speaker 3: he's brilliant and everything's rosy.
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Speaker 17: Have a look, Australians should be proud of the progress
44:09
Speaker 17: we've made on the economy. We've been able to get
44:12
Speaker 17: inflation down while maintaining low unemployment. We've seen real wages
44:17
Speaker 17: and living standards grow in recent data. We've also been
44:22
Speaker 17: able to get the debt down substantially, deliver a couple
44:25
Speaker 17: of surpluses and a much smaller deficit.
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Speaker 3: Steven, are you proud of how wonderful Jim Chalmers is
44:31
Speaker 3: or would you rather the government gets on top of
44:33
Speaker 3: its spending and perhaps which had some lower mortgages.
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Speaker 18: Look, I'm proud of the way Australians have actually reacted
44:40
Speaker 18: to the crisis and actually tightened our belts. But no,
44:42
Speaker 18: the governments I just found it extraordinary that when the
44:45
Speaker 18: deficit was smaller than it was supposed to be. But
44:48
Speaker 18: our spending has gone through the roof. He says, yeah,
44:50
Speaker 18: but it was four point six billion dollars less than
44:52
Speaker 18: we were going to spend. I mean, the reality is
44:54
Speaker 18: they plan to spend more money than they actually did,
44:57
Speaker 18: which is even more frightening. But let's not forget that
44:59
Speaker 18: INFLA actually went up the last time the inflation rate
45:03
Speaker 18: was released. It's largely off the back of energy prices
45:06
Speaker 18: which are going through the roof because of this renewables
45:09
Speaker 18: roll out that this government keeps going down. But they
45:11
Speaker 18: keep telling us, now, your electricity prices are coming down,
45:14
Speaker 18: your standard of living is improved, your real wages have
45:17
Speaker 18: gone up. So they actually talk to real Australians. Once
45:19
Speaker 18: upon a time, an MP would go out and speak
45:22
Speaker 18: to people in his electric Clearly nobody in the government
45:25
Speaker 18: is speaking to anybody out in their electrics, because any
45:28
Speaker 18: Australian will tell you it's not as rosy as you're
45:30
Speaker 18: telling us it is. Our wages have gone down, our
45:32
Speaker 18: living standards have gone down. The cost of living.
45:35
Speaker 2: Crisis is still enormous.
45:36
Speaker 18: We can't afford to pay electricity bills and you're telling
45:39
Speaker 18: us it's good.
45:40
Speaker 2: Please, yeah, wake up, it's still tough.
45:45
Speaker 3: It is still tough, and they need to get on
45:47
Speaker 3: top of that. They need to get in touch with that.
45:49
Speaker 3: As you say, things are still pretty tough for Optus
45:52
Speaker 3: as well as they.
45:53
Speaker 2: Struggle to get on top of their own issues deal
45:56
Speaker 2: with the.
45:56
Speaker 3: Public, of course, presumably shedding a cast as by the
46:00
Speaker 3: truckloader at the moment. Their single Porean owner was in
46:04
Speaker 3: Sydney today and he bumped into Liam Mendez from The Australian.
46:09
Speaker 2: Have a look, what do.
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Speaker 16: You have to say to the families, mister Green, Sure
46:16
Speaker 16: you have something to say to the families.
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Speaker 10: You've got plenty of security.
46:20
Speaker 11: But miseren, can't you just answer a couple of questions?
46:26
Speaker 2: Sous, You're not fun being jumped by a journo.
46:28
Speaker 3: But given what's at stake here and given what's transpired,
46:31
Speaker 3: he should stop and speak to Australian, shouldn't he.
46:36
Speaker 16: Well, you would hope that you would get a bit
46:38
Speaker 16: more respect than that from someone in this position like
46:42
Speaker 16: this company is in free fall. I mean people are
46:45
Speaker 16: now saying do I need to get a landline again?
46:49
Speaker 16: A non Alptus landline. That's how bad things are getting.
46:52
Speaker 16: But the government's got a really key role to play
46:55
Speaker 16: in this as well. After the last major twenty twenty
46:59
Speaker 16: three Optus out in there was a plan for a
47:02
Speaker 16: framework that was absolutely full proof that people could rely
47:06
Speaker 16: on the Triple O framework. Where the hell is that?
47:09
Speaker 16: Since then, we've had two major outages from Optus of
47:14
Speaker 16: the Triple O network, one of which was just a
47:16
Speaker 16: few weeks ago which caused three deaths. Where is the
47:20
Speaker 16: certainty for homeowners?
47:24
Speaker 2: Yeah?
47:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just up to Optus, it's about the government.
47:27
Speaker 3: They are getting on top of this and making sure
47:28
Speaker 3: there's a full proof system in place.
47:31
Speaker 2: Stephen, you're in Canberra.
47:33
Speaker 3: At the top of the program, I had to point
47:34
Speaker 3: out something I stumbled across at the Canberra University where
47:37
Speaker 3: they're running the world the country's first gender policy graduate certificate. Honestly,
47:43
Speaker 3: they're training people in all this gender equity stuff so
47:46
Speaker 3: they can become advocates and change leaders. As if we
47:49
Speaker 3: have got enough of this, too much of this rubbish already.
47:53
Speaker 2: And while I've been on air, I've.
47:54
Speaker 3: Been sent a message by a viewer who says it
47:56
Speaker 3: gets worse. They've got an LGBTQ A plus see course
48:00
Speaker 3: as well at the Canberra University Bill shortens in charge
48:04
Speaker 3: time to sort the joint out.
48:05
Speaker 2: Surely.
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Speaker 18: The scary thing is, Chris, is that you see is
48:09
Speaker 18: actually the better of the two universities here in Canberra
48:12
Speaker 18: an us AN actually basket cases going broke. But look,
48:16
Speaker 18: I've got to I'll defend YOUC in one sense that
48:19
Speaker 18: they actually do run a few actual courses where people
48:22
Speaker 18: learn skills that they can use out in the marketplace.
48:24
Speaker 18: But like every university, they've gone so left and so
48:27
Speaker 18: woke that they've got to have all of this rubbish
48:29
Speaker 18: on the sidelines. This is why our university system across
48:32
Speaker 18: the board has fallen into the hole that it is,
48:35
Speaker 18: because we're not focused on actually teaching people usable skills anymore.
48:38
Speaker 15: Now.
48:39
Speaker 18: I'm all for arts programs and higher thinking and all
48:42
Speaker 18: of that, but the problem is our universities don't actually
48:44
Speaker 18: teach that anymore. And what are these courses actually going
48:48
Speaker 18: to achieve for anybody that does them. That's the real
48:51
Speaker 18: question that needs to be asked here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just such a worry and it's beyond our
48:57
Speaker 3: scout to sort of out for them. I'm afraid sus
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Speaker 3: You've got to touch in on the sad news today.
49:02
Speaker 3: I don't normally do much celebrity news, but Keith Urban
49:06
Speaker 3: and Nicole Kidman, two absolute superstars from this country, been
49:09
Speaker 3: married for nearly twenty years. News today that they've separated.
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Speaker 2: Pretty sad news. Really, a couple of kids involved.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think everyone is actually shocked and saddened by this.
49:22
Speaker 16: This has been a couple that it's been no whiff
49:25
Speaker 16: of this coming. There's been no suggestion, and there's no Nannygate,
49:29
Speaker 16: there's no secret recordings like what has happened. It just
49:34
Speaker 16: seems incredibly sad. I mean, people are saying that Keith
49:37
Speaker 16: Urban was the one who was driving the split, but
49:40
Speaker 16: as of June they were still photographed together. They shared
49:43
Speaker 16: a very beautiful photo of each other on their anniversary,
49:46
Speaker 16: so it must be very new and I really do
49:49
Speaker 16: feel for them all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, said Susie.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining USUSIO Brian and Stephen Senter Tampa.
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Speaker 2: Peter Kreedlin's up next.