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- 0:35SPEAKER_01: Good afternoon, everyone.
- 0:38SPEAKER_01: Welcome.
- 0:38SPEAKER_01: As you start coming on in, Eric, you need to accept your co-host invite.
- 0:43SPEAKER_01: It's in signal.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: Why?
- 0:45SPEAKER_00: Why?
- 0:46SPEAKER_01: So people can follow you.
- 0:48SPEAKER_01: Why?
- 0:48SPEAKER_01: So people can follow you.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: So it doesn't look
- 0:51SPEAKER_00: like it's just...
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: I'm busy.
- 0:53SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 0:55SPEAKER_01: Hey, y'all.
- 0:56SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Sick of this Shit Publications.
- 0:58SPEAKER_01: This is the Diogenes Club.
- 0:59SPEAKER_01: I'm Nick Paro, still not your dad.
- 1:02SPEAKER_01: Joined today, as always, by my good friend, Dr. Eric Lulove.
- 1:07SPEAKER_01: Oh, you flubbed that already.
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: We're not even 20 seconds.
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: Then you screwed up my name.
- 1:13SPEAKER_01: Oh, I forgot.
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: I forgot.
- 1:14SPEAKER_01: I'll give you my middle finger has a middle finger for you.
- 1:17SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
- 1:20SPEAKER_01: So we've got Dr. Eric Lulove.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: Dr. Lulove testicle over here, by the way.
- 1:24SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 1:26SPEAKER_01: Yikes.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: That's swollen.
- 1:28SPEAKER_01: Contributing medical editor at Blue Ant Media.
- 1:31SPEAKER_01: And we're joined today by Jason O'Dell,
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: the photographer's perspective and a friend of ours
- 1:37SPEAKER_01: who you probably have seen him all around with different photography that he does,
- 1:44SPEAKER_01: really beautiful images,
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: trips that he's posted and talked about, shows that he does himself.
- 1:49SPEAKER_01: Jason, it's good to have you.
- 1:51SPEAKER_02: It's great to be here, guys.
- 1:52SPEAKER_02: And I finally got all my makeup cleaned off from Monday's Latchkey Hour show.
- 1:58SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you saw that one, but...
- 2:01SPEAKER_02: Shayla had me in full frankenfurter mode, so that was really fun, but messy.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: But it was a wonderful rendition of Jim Curry, by the way.
- 2:12SPEAKER_02: Oh, thanks.
- 2:12SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we felt he needed a little love because,
- 2:16SPEAKER_02: with no disrespect whatsoever to Dolly,
- 2:19SPEAKER_02: but like when you die the next day and everyone's in full Dolly appreciation mode,
- 2:25SPEAKER_02: he kind of got...
- 2:26SPEAKER_02: A little bit left behind.
- 2:27SPEAKER_02: So we just thought it was kind of important to remember him as well,
- 2:31SPEAKER_02: because, boy, he bring us a lot of good times, you know?
- 2:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 2:38SPEAKER_01: And it's sad to see people that we respect and all treasure Grovan.
- 2:50SPEAKER_01: There we go.
- 2:51SPEAKER_01: Where did Eric go?
- 2:52SPEAKER_01: There he is.
- 2:53SPEAKER_01: Frozen over there.
- 2:54SPEAKER_02: He's in the Matrix.
- 2:55SPEAKER_02: It's all good.
- 2:57SPEAKER_01: He's pixelating on us.
- 3:03SPEAKER_00: I had like an internet glitch.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we noticed.
- 3:12SPEAKER_01: You just broke up on us there.
- 3:15SPEAKER_01: But maybe you're back.
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: I see your face moving, so I think you're back with us.
- 3:19SPEAKER_01: So welcome, everyone.
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: About health and human sacrifices today and RFK Jr. and everything in and around as normal.
- 3:30SPEAKER_01: We like to talk medical pieces and what's going on on the health side.
- 3:37SPEAKER_01: Also, our good friend Naida Green in the chat has posted and I will post it again
- 3:42SPEAKER_01: and I'll put a QR code up for it is the Say No to Crip Crow advocacy Sign up.
- 3:50SPEAKER_01: There's a tiny URL sign up link where you can sign up to be part of the Say No
- 3:57SPEAKER_01: to Crypt Crow effort for the advocacy campaign that's ongoing and sign up
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: for in-person lobbying,
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: phone banking,
- 4:07SPEAKER_01: and meeting with your representatives and legislators so that we can codify
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: the Curtis Wilson Act,
- 4:15SPEAKER_01: which is The codification of
- 4:18SPEAKER_01: Olmsted into the ADA and actually protecting
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: and providing for disability rights and disability freedoms so
- 4:28SPEAKER_01: that they don't get taken away and we all don't get fucked by the government harder
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: than we need to.
- 4:35SPEAKER_01: With that note, what's up, Eric?
- 4:38SPEAKER_01: Now that we've got you.
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: What is up with me?
- 4:43SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 4:44SPEAKER_01: So I am, I am,
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: you hear
- 4:46SPEAKER_01: me?
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: We're good, right?
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: Yes.
- 4:52SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 4:54SPEAKER_00: So we are, we are exactly, what time is it?
- 4:57SPEAKER_00: It's, today's the, remember what day it is.
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: I'm 27 days and counting to my fall holiday,
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: which will be in Western Europe and Spain and Portugal and Morocco.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking forward to that little break.
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: Highly recommend.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: See, Jason, before I started to eye out, I didn't have these.
- 5:20SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 5:20SPEAKER_02: I used to have hair before I got on Substack.
- 5:23SPEAKER_02: No, I'm just kidding.
- 5:32SPEAKER_00: Oh, no.
- 5:33SPEAKER_00: And it's just,
- 5:33SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: I'm still doing a lot of these ALJ Medicare audits for a lot of these physicians
- 5:38SPEAKER_00: and acting as subject matter.
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: I was showing you guys before the show that we're doing.
- 5:43SPEAKER_00: And, you know,
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: and I think next week I've got,
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: I think next week on the schedule,
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: we have four separate hearings, like during the week.
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: Like it's, it's just, it's crazy.
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: It's just, yeah, I have one, let's see, nothing Monday.
- 5:56SPEAKER_00: So I definitely have one on Tuesday.
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: No, only two next week, Wednesday, Thursday.
- 6:01SPEAKER_00: So, but the week after is going to be hell.
- 6:05SPEAKER_01: So, yeah,
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: make fun.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: I'm glad I don't have to do that.
- 6:09SPEAKER_01: I'm glad I don't have to do that.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: No, guys, honestly, this is the part of the year which always gets stressful.
- 6:16SPEAKER_00: I mean, and because, like,
- 6:19SPEAKER_00: this is when the government releases all of its rulemaking decisions for January.
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: Especially with like HHS,
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: since we're talking about the,
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: the disease of health and human services
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: that is our agency that's being run right now.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: And it's,
- 6:34SPEAKER_00: you know, they,
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: the physician fee schedule,
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: the outpatient fee schedule,
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: the, you know, blood drive product groups, the hospice and home health payments.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: I mean, and all this is,
- 6:46SPEAKER_00: all of this is cartwheeling into the same issue of this administration trying
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: to thin the herd.
- 6:57SPEAKER_00: Since they don't believe in herd immunity anyway.
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: So they're literally trying to just eliminate as many line item expenditures out of
- 7:05SPEAKER_00: the government as possible.
- 7:08SPEAKER_00: Whether they do it by provider or by beneficiary or recipient.
- 7:17SPEAKER_02: It seems like to me that the people in charge are looking at
- 7:24SPEAKER_02: the government Not just this department, but everything as sort of a spreadsheet.
- 7:31SPEAKER_02: And they just go, we spend this.
- 7:34SPEAKER_02: And then there's no column for return because those returns are not financial,
- 7:42SPEAKER_02: you know, direct returns.
- 7:44SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 7:44SPEAKER_02: you can't say if we spend a dollar here, I mean,
- 7:48SPEAKER_02: you can say this for certain things,
- 7:49SPEAKER_02: but like,
- 7:50SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 7:51SPEAKER_02: a lot of programs will have benefit that is return, economic benefit, right?
- 7:56SPEAKER_02: When you say if we spend a dollar here,
- 7:59SPEAKER_02: that returns a dollar 20 to the economy for every,
- 8:02SPEAKER_02: you know, so it's 20 cents on a dollar comes back in.
- 8:06SPEAKER_02: But they're not looking at it that way.
- 8:07SPEAKER_02: They're looking at the expense side of the ledger, or at least that's my opinion.
- 8:12SPEAKER_02: And they're just saying, well,
- 8:13SPEAKER_02: why the hell are we spending a million dollars a year here by without looking
- 8:18SPEAKER_02: at not only just the forget the return on the investment.
- 8:23SPEAKER_02: When you talk about health, it's like, you know, a healthy population is a good thing.
- 8:31SPEAKER_02: Unless you're,
- 8:32SPEAKER_02: like Eric says,
- 8:34SPEAKER_02: unless you're somehow trying to put forth a policy that's going to hurt people
- 8:42SPEAKER_02: who you don't think are valuable to society.
- 8:46SPEAKER_02: And by that, I mean non-white, non-rich men and women.
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: Non-white, non-rich, not disabled.
- 8:57SPEAKER_01: If you're not a rich white male or somehow a trad wife female,
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: you don't deserve to get anything.
- 9:15SPEAKER_02: It's getting ridiculous.
- 9:17SPEAKER_02: And people will use, you know, you can call it whatever you want.
- 9:21SPEAKER_02: I know some people like to throw around the term eugenics.
- 9:25SPEAKER_02: I think it's broader than that.
- 9:26SPEAKER_02: I think it's just worse than that.
- 9:29SPEAKER_02: Genetic maintenance.
- 9:32SPEAKER_02: Gene pool maintenance.
- 9:34SPEAKER_02: But it's not your genes, it's your pocketbook.
- 9:36SPEAKER_02: It's what you have in your bank account.
- 9:38SPEAKER_02: Because if you can afford it, you can afford it.
- 9:40SPEAKER_02: I mean, this is just the crazy stuff.
- 9:47SPEAKER_02: That's going on.
- 9:48SPEAKER_02: I mean, we do have a history of eugenics in this country.
- 9:55SPEAKER_02: It never really took off,
- 9:57SPEAKER_02: but there was,
- 9:57SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 9:58SPEAKER_02: back in the 20s and the 30s,
- 10:00SPEAKER_02: there was this whole idea that this was, you know, something.
- 10:03SPEAKER_02: And it came at a time when
- 10:08SPEAKER_02: My degree is in biology,
- 10:09SPEAKER_02: so I'm not Dr. Lulove, MD, but I am Dr. Odell, PhD, so I countered something.
- 10:17SPEAKER_02: But historically speaking,
- 10:18SPEAKER_02: there was a time when evolution and genetics were starting to come together
- 10:24SPEAKER_02: because there was a big gap in time between,
- 10:27SPEAKER_02: historically speaking,
- 10:29SPEAKER_02: they had the concept of genetics,
- 10:33SPEAKER_02: but nobody knew The basis for how it worked biologically.
- 10:38SPEAKER_02: Like it's like the studies that show,
- 10:41SPEAKER_02: like the things that you learned in high school,
- 10:44SPEAKER_02: or if you took college biology,
- 10:46SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 10:46SPEAKER_02: you learned about Gregor Mendel and the peas and you did the little,
- 10:49SPEAKER_02: you know, and he figured out that there must be inheritance.
- 10:52SPEAKER_02: He had no idea what was causing that.
- 10:55SPEAKER_02: And then in the 30s, the evolutionary studies were continuing to improve.
- 11:01SPEAKER_02: And this whole idea of,
- 11:03SPEAKER_02: oh, well, if you can do natural selection, you can do artificial selection.
- 11:07SPEAKER_02: And it's true.
- 11:09SPEAKER_02: I like to joke that people say, well, I don't have genetically modified anything.
- 11:13SPEAKER_02: I say everything is genetically modified.
- 11:16SPEAKER_02: It's just not always done in a lab.
- 11:20SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 11:20SPEAKER_02: breeding plants and animals and livestock
- 11:23SPEAKER_02: by selective breeding is literally genetic modification.
- 11:27SPEAKER_02: It's just you're not doing it, you know, at the lab level.
- 11:31SPEAKER_02: So anyway,
- 11:32SPEAKER_02: this was all coming along and it didn't really get synthesized until the 50s
- 11:35SPEAKER_02: when we figured out how DNA works, you know, so like to put the mechanism to it.
- 11:40SPEAKER_02: But in the 30s, there was this whole thing about eugenics.
- 11:43SPEAKER_02: It was a big topic and it has some popularity.
- 11:49SPEAKER_02: And there was a term,
- 11:50SPEAKER_02: I was reading some papers once,
- 11:51SPEAKER_02: and they referred to people who were less desirable as being the feeble-minded.
- 12:01SPEAKER_02: That was their term.
- 12:02SPEAKER_02: That was literally their term.
- 12:03SPEAKER_02: It was feeble-minded people.
- 12:05SPEAKER_02: And there were sterilization programs.
- 12:07SPEAKER_02: There was hardcore stuff that actually happened,
- 12:10SPEAKER_02: and especially to people of color,
- 12:12SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 12:12SPEAKER_02: those horrible,
- 12:13SPEAKER_02: horrible,
- 12:14SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 12:14SPEAKER_02: experimental studies where the syphilis studies, remember that they were doing?
- 12:20SPEAKER_02: They were injecting people with syphilis to see how it was mostly
- 12:24SPEAKER_02: on African-Americans, I think.
- 12:27SPEAKER_02: So we're not exactly
- 12:34SPEAKER_02: the model for that, but we got better.
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: We figured out that was bad.
- 12:39SPEAKER_02: We kind of fought a war over it at one point.
- 12:44SPEAKER_02: And you go back to the And this is what just disgusts me.
- 12:50SPEAKER_02: You know, you look at the pictures, a couple of things that really stick out in my mind.
- 12:57SPEAKER_02: First of all, go to any cemetery and look at the gravestones before the 1950s.
- 13:09SPEAKER_02: But especially,
- 13:10SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 13:11SPEAKER_02: before that,
- 13:12SPEAKER_02: but even in the 20s, 1800s, and look how many of the graves are of children.
- 13:21SPEAKER_02: Mothers would die in childbirth, but also you had tremendous infant mortality.
- 13:26SPEAKER_02: And these were infants sometimes dying before the age of four or five.
- 13:32SPEAKER_02: And why?
- 13:34SPEAKER_02: Why?
- 13:34SPEAKER_02: Because they were getting things like measles and other diseases and nutrition was bad.
- 13:40SPEAKER_02: And there weren't any safeguards on food and nutritional.
- 13:47SPEAKER_02: I mean, this was the story's You guys read that horrific story about how they used
- 13:52SPEAKER_02: to put chalk in milk to make it look like it was good,
- 13:59SPEAKER_02: right, to make it look white when it wasn't and, you know, not pasteurizing things.
- 14:05SPEAKER_02: And then you have the contrast in the 50s when,
- 14:11SPEAKER_02: you know, I'll just use the polio vaccine as the best example, I think, of this.
- 14:16SPEAKER_02: You see the pictures of people lining up around the block to get that.
- 14:21SPEAKER_02: Because they had friends or relatives who were either paralyzed and in some cases,
- 14:27SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 14:27SPEAKER_02: with the chest paralysis in an iron freaking lung to breathe
- 14:33SPEAKER_02: because their chest muscles,
- 14:35SPEAKER_02: you know, the whole pleural cavity got paralyzed, right?
- 14:39SPEAKER_02: And people were lining up around the block to get that.
- 14:43SPEAKER_02: And you know what I never had?
- 14:44SPEAKER_02: Polio.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: Or measles.
- 14:49SPEAKER_02: I didn't get measles.
- 14:50SPEAKER_02: The only thing that I got that was,
- 14:52SPEAKER_02: you know, that unfortunately there wasn't anything at my generation was chicken pox.
- 14:58SPEAKER_01: Even at my generation, we were still doing chicken pox parties and stuff.
- 15:02SPEAKER_01: We were doing the calamine parties.
- 15:06SPEAKER_02: Oh, calamine lotion.
- 15:07SPEAKER_02: Don't even get me started on that.
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: We were doing the pink calamine party.
- 15:10SPEAKER_00: Speaking of measles, by the way, so the corner in Pennsylvania.
- 15:13SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Nick.
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
- 15:15SPEAKER_00: No, go ahead, go ahead.
- 15:17SPEAKER_00: So the coroner released
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: two of the pathology results from two of the kids that died
- 15:27SPEAKER_00: in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
- 15:29SPEAKER_00: The first one was a six-week-year-old, was a six-week-old child who died on August 18th.
- 15:34SPEAKER_00: Oh, and guess what she died of?
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: Measles!
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: And then...
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: The other one,
- 15:41SPEAKER_00: the other infant,
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: Ivan Miller,
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: died on August 14th from a ruptured spleen with measles listed as
- 15:47SPEAKER_00: a significant condition.
- 15:49SPEAKER_00: Now, why is this so freaking important?
- 15:51SPEAKER_00: Because the Health and Human Secretary,
- 15:56SPEAKER_00: I should just say the dehuman and unhealthy secretary,
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: Bobby Brainworm,
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: had always questioned whether the deaths were actually for measles and
- 16:08SPEAKER_00: if they were fabricated.
- 16:09SPEAKER_00: So the CDC has not officially recognized the fatalities.
- 16:13SPEAKER_02: So this is the same bullshit they pulled with COVID.
- 16:16SPEAKER_02: Well, you know, just because you had COVID didn't mean it killed you.
- 16:19SPEAKER_02: Well, you know what?
- 16:20SPEAKER_02: If you freaking had COVID and you died, it's a COVID death.
- 16:24SPEAKER_02: Full stop.
- 16:25SPEAKER_02: Same with measles, right?
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: Listen, at least we didn't, but at least we acknowledged that COVID existed.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: We have a government here that doesn't want to acknowledge that measles is even
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: in existence and it's come back because of the anti-vaccine policies.
- 16:38SPEAKER_00: Well, and this all goes back to that.
- 16:40SPEAKER_00: We did a show a couple weeks ago with Dr. Angie, who just kind of went off on this whole thing.
- 16:44SPEAKER_00: We just kind of rode shotgun and let her just ramble for like 45 minutes
- 16:47SPEAKER_00: because it's like her wheelhouse.
- 16:50SPEAKER_00: Because Angie, that's what Angie does.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: But this is what we're talking about.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: This is how when you have And I'm just going to at this point,
- 16:59SPEAKER_00: I'm going to say it because it's I can't say it any other way anymore.
- 17:03SPEAKER_00: When you have the dumbest,
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: stupidest fucking people running agencies of government which are responsible
- 17:10SPEAKER_00: to supply services to the American population.
- 17:15SPEAKER_00: That's their fucking charge.
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 17:17SPEAKER_00: It's not to strip them down for whatever parts you can find.
- 17:22SPEAKER_00: It's not to siphon off.
- 17:24SPEAKER_00: Money so that they can get wealthy.
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: It's your goddamn job.
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: And this is what this is why people are so pissed off.
- 17:32SPEAKER_00: On top of the four dollar and twenty five cent gasoline and the price to the roof
- 17:36SPEAKER_00: and gross price of bread going from three ninety nine to six ninety nine.
- 17:41SPEAKER_00: And, you know, every just prices and goods and services going up.
- 17:45SPEAKER_00: Thank you to the trade wars that we did not need.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: But this is why people are so upset.
- 17:53SPEAKER_00: And this is why you're seeing so many people activated at voting,
- 17:56SPEAKER_00: which is why if you actually tune in to
- 17:58SPEAKER_00: that stupid midterm convention rah-rah party they're having down in Dallas,
- 18:04SPEAKER_00: that's why the only time you see the Griff Fest,
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: the only time you see anybody in the stadium is when they only shoot a low image of
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: the lower bowl because there's nobody in the upper portions of the arena.
- 18:16SPEAKER_00: And
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: It's, it's just,
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: it's the whole thing's like,
- 18:21SPEAKER_00: you know,
- 18:21SPEAKER_00: what did,
- 18:22SPEAKER_00: what did,
- 18:23SPEAKER_00: what did the
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: chairman last night,
- 18:27SPEAKER_00: Richard Steele said something last night on MSNBC when they were doing the week,
- 18:30SPEAKER_00: they were doing the weeknight, right?
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: He said, when you're sitting on $850 million, it's late money.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: It's not going to help anybody now.
- 18:39SPEAKER_00: Like it's too late for that money to do any value to these candidates on the Republican side.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: They're, they're, they're literally fucked.
- 18:48SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, You can't go through that door because you turn your back on Trump.
- 18:51SPEAKER_00: He'll bury you.
- 18:52SPEAKER_00: You can't take the money because it's like they they did this to themselves
- 18:57SPEAKER_00: and they all deserve to be voted out of office.
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: And this includes all the the rank and file Democrats that are not on board
- 19:04SPEAKER_00: with fixing the goddamn problems.
- 19:07SPEAKER_00: Like being tone deaf and taking a meeting with with Jared Kushner two weeks ago is tone deaf.
- 19:16SPEAKER_01: Well, in all of this, there is a sliver of good news that comes out of all of this.
- 19:21SPEAKER_01: Oh, there is?
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: There's a sliver?
- 19:23SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 19:25SPEAKER_01: We have a sliver of good news through all of this is that nine out of 10,
- 19:30SPEAKER_01: this is from recent Gallup polling,
- 19:33SPEAKER_01: is nine out of 10 Americans say the government is corrupt.
- 19:37SPEAKER_01: Nine out of 10 Americans.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: Because they probably disagree
- 19:41SPEAKER_02: on how it's corrupt.
- 19:42SPEAKER_02: Yes, we absolutely
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: disagree on the type of corruption that is going on.
- 19:49SPEAKER_01: And that's something that we should be able to have conversations about.
- 19:54SPEAKER_01: But the fact that 90%,
- 19:58SPEAKER_01: 89% specifically,
- 20:00SPEAKER_01: from Gallup Poll say that across the board,
- 20:03SPEAKER_01: and this is the highest it's been in 20 years,
- 20:07SPEAKER_01: That corruption is roughly 89% of all adults say that the US government is corrupt.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: From that data,
- 20:15SPEAKER_01: 91% of respondents who said the government was corrupt are Democrats,
- 20:21SPEAKER_01: 90% are independents, and 83% are Republicans.
- 20:27SPEAKER_01: This is one of the first times in a long time that Democrats view
- 20:32SPEAKER_01: the government more corruptly than Republicans do.
- 20:38SPEAKER_01: And independents sitting at 90%,
- 20:40SPEAKER_01: they've gone up from 2024,
- 20:42SPEAKER_01: where they were at 78% of independents, are now at 90% of independents.
- 20:48SPEAKER_01: From 2024, we go from 57% of Democrats to 91% of Democrats saying that it's corrupt.
- 20:57SPEAKER_01: Republicans, on the other hand, are 87 to 83.
- 21:01SPEAKER_01: So they went down to 81 and 25 and are back up two points to 2026.
- 21:08SPEAKER_01: So everyone's on an upward trend too of viewing the government as corrupt.
- 21:14SPEAKER_01: This is at least the sliver of good news in this is
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: at least people are fucking seeing it finally.
- 21:21SPEAKER_01: Like at least everyone is finally seeing it that there's rampant corruption
- 21:27SPEAKER_01: in our government and something needs to fucking change.
- 21:32SPEAKER_00: So here's a new here's a Gallup statistic that came out this week,
- 21:35SPEAKER_00: which is the approval rating of the Supreme Court is at an all time low
- 21:40SPEAKER_00: of 33 percent.
- 21:43SPEAKER_00: OK, here's how these numbers parse out.
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: So as far as Democrats and independents,
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: those numbers really haven't moved since September of last year.
- 21:53SPEAKER_00: It's about 35 percent approval.
- 21:55SPEAKER_00: But here's the number that's moved.
- 21:57SPEAKER_00: In September of last year, the Supreme Court's rating with Republicans was 79% approval.
- 22:03SPEAKER_00: It has now dropped 21 points to 58%.
- 22:07SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
- 22:10SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 22:10SPEAKER_02: Because they don't think they're getting all the rules they want to help them?
- 22:14SPEAKER_00: Well, I think a lot of it is on the tariffs.
- 22:20SPEAKER_00: A lot of it was about the birthright citizenship.
- 22:23SPEAKER_00: You know, the culture issues, right?
- 22:24SPEAKER_00: The bullshit culture issues.
- 22:26SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 22:29SPEAKER_00: And so here's the thing,
- 22:31SPEAKER_00: so that the decline indicates that the rulings unfavorable
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: to Trump administration this term,
- 22:36SPEAKER_00: such as those on tariffs and birthright citizenship,
- 22:39SPEAKER_00: weighed more heavily on Republicans' evaluations of the court than the rulings
- 22:44SPEAKER_00: that favored Trump and the GOP.
- 22:47SPEAKER_00: And that the current Republican approval rating of now similar
- 22:50SPEAKER_00: to their average 56 approval for the entire Gallup trend.
- 22:56SPEAKER_00: So to drop 21 points and come back to your baseline is a huge statistic.
- 23:05SPEAKER_00: And that's just kind of basically saying that they're cratering.
- 23:09SPEAKER_00: Like it's really like, yeah, Trump doesn't have to be on the ballot because he is the ballot.
- 23:17SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the Republican, well, he's made himself the ballot too.
- 23:21SPEAKER_01: Like the...
- 23:23SPEAKER_01: Republican Party.
- 23:24SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: He literally said it was, right?
- 23:27SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like they could let go of him.
- 23:30SPEAKER_01: He can't run constitutionally.
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: He cannot run
- 23:34SPEAKER_00: for office again.
- 23:37SPEAKER_01: He's not allowed.
- 23:38SPEAKER_01: Apart from the Constitution.
- 23:40SPEAKER_01: The Republicans have all the power to just go, yeah, we're done with this dude.
- 23:45SPEAKER_01: But they're a bunch of fucking cowards who only want to cling to power because
- 23:49SPEAKER_01: Which is why they're trying to restrict our vote,
- 23:51SPEAKER_01: which is why they're trying to kill people,
- 23:53SPEAKER_01: which is why they are enacting policies that are,
- 23:58SPEAKER_01: like we said towards the beginning of the show,
- 24:00SPEAKER_01: is really based on your pocketbook,
- 24:02SPEAKER_01: is if you don't have the money to afford to live, you just get to die.
- 24:07SPEAKER_01: Like, that's the policy.
- 24:08SPEAKER_00: That's the policy.
- 24:13SPEAKER_00: I want to share something because it has to do with It has to do with the poll that you left.
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 24:20SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 24:23SPEAKER_00: And here.
- 24:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, here we go.
- 24:25SPEAKER_00: So this is the polling that you just mentioned.
- 24:29SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 24:30SPEAKER_00: So this line, everybody here, this is Republicans in 2024.
- 24:36SPEAKER_00: 87% where they said that government corruption spans the political spectrum.
- 24:42SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 24:43SPEAKER_00: Democrats in 2024 said it was only 57%.
- 24:47SPEAKER_00: Look at the jump now, 91%.
- 24:49SPEAKER_02: And the interesting
- 24:54SPEAKER_00: thing with that
- 24:55SPEAKER_02: one, Eric.
- 24:56SPEAKER_00: I mean, and this is with the independents.
- 24:58SPEAKER_00: This is your independent here, this dotted hash line.
- 25:01SPEAKER_00: So it went from 80 to 90.
- 25:03SPEAKER_00: The biggest jump, though,
- 25:04SPEAKER_00: was the Democrats finally realizing that this administration and this person running
- 25:11SPEAKER_00: the government is a thief.
- 25:16SPEAKER_02: Oh, and I think it also is interesting because there was another poll that came out,
- 25:25SPEAKER_02: you know, the magic of the crossing lines, right?
- 25:31SPEAKER_02: And this has to do with the economy in general.
- 25:34SPEAKER_02: In 2024, every independent measure of the U.S. economy was we were kicking everyone else's ass.
- 25:41SPEAKER_02: We were, you know, economically, we were truly the best.
- 25:46SPEAKER_02: And...
- 25:46SPEAKER_02: But if you asked a Republican if they thought the economy was good, they said it was terrible.
- 25:51SPEAKER_02: And why?
- 25:53SPEAKER_02: Because they were getting pounded every day from their media sources or source that,
- 26:00SPEAKER_02: oh, well, everything is corrupt and everything is terrible.
- 26:02SPEAKER_02: So what was more surprising to me is that, yeah, I mean,
- 26:07SPEAKER_02: there was a flip right after the election that all of a sudden,
- 26:12SPEAKER_02: after the inauguration,
- 26:13SPEAKER_02: all of a sudden Republicans thought the economy was pretty good.
- 26:17SPEAKER_02: Because, well, we have our guy now, so clearly it's better.
- 26:21SPEAKER_02: What I would have expected to see in those lines,
- 26:24SPEAKER_02: if this was purely a partisan thing, was that we got our guy.
- 26:28SPEAKER_02: The government's not corrupt.
- 26:30SPEAKER_02: That's our guy.
- 26:31SPEAKER_02: Because that's what a cult person would do, right?
- 26:34SPEAKER_02: And you would expect that number on the GOP respondents to go down.
- 26:39SPEAKER_02: The fact that it didn't go down, I mean,
- 26:40SPEAKER_02: it went down a tick,
- 26:41SPEAKER_02: but the fact that it stayed in the mid-80s,
- 26:46SPEAKER_02: Tells you that even with this administration being the ones
- 26:50SPEAKER_02: that presumably they voted for, they're seeing it as corrupt.
- 26:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 26:57SPEAKER_01: And it's gone back up from last year, too.
- 27:01SPEAKER_01: The trend is...
- 27:02SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 27:03SPEAKER_01: You're seeing it now.
- 27:05SPEAKER_01: For 2025 to 2026, when they retook the poll, more people see the government as corrupt.
- 27:14SPEAKER_01: And guess who has control of all three branches of the government?
- 27:18SPEAKER_01: Correct.
- 27:18SPEAKER_01: The Republicans.
- 27:20SPEAKER_02: You can't put this on Chuck Schumer or something.
- 27:25SPEAKER_01: You can pin the fecklessness and the bullshit and the waste of opportunities
- 27:31SPEAKER_01: to actually be an opposition party and to advocate and to do their jobs.
- 27:38SPEAKER_01: You can pin a lot of failures on the Democratic Party and
- 27:43SPEAKER_01: It's the Republicans' fault because they own the government right now.
- 27:48SPEAKER_01: They have the White House and they have both chambers of Congress.
- 27:53SPEAKER_01: They get to make the rules.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: They get to make the timing.
- 27:56SPEAKER_01: They get to make the schedule.
- 27:57SPEAKER_01: And guess who's been at work for less than 48 percent of the year?
- 28:02SPEAKER_01: The Republican Congress.
- 28:05SPEAKER_01: They're the ones not doing their jobs.
- 28:07SPEAKER_01: They have put idiots on.
- 28:10SPEAKER_01: They have put people who are willfully and purposefully ignorant of subjects
- 28:14SPEAKER_01: and topics to destroy certain areas of the government.
- 28:18SPEAKER_01: It's why we have an anti-vaxxer
- 28:21SPEAKER_02: as the head of health and human sacrifice.
- 28:23SPEAKER_01: It's why we have an individual who can't say AI and thinks it's a one steak sauce
- 28:29SPEAKER_01: because Linda McMahon should not be running the Department of Education.
- 28:33SPEAKER_01: It's why we have a war criminal and probably still ongoing alcoholic because,
- 28:38SPEAKER_01: one, once you're an alcoholic, you're always an alcoholic.
- 28:41SPEAKER_01: You're just either in recovery or you're not.
- 28:44SPEAKER_01: And this individual,
- 28:45SPEAKER_01: Pete Hegseth,
- 28:46SPEAKER_01: is very obviously not in recovery anymore, running the Department of Defense.
- 28:54SPEAKER_01: We have people who are ruining our things.
- 28:59SPEAKER_01: And RFK Jr. was a heroin addict.
- 29:01SPEAKER_01: He's also in recovery.
- 29:03SPEAKER_01: Whether he's still in recovery or not is, I don't know.
- 29:08SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to make a claim that he's not still in recovery.
- 29:12SPEAKER_01: But I've seen drug addicts before.
- 29:14SPEAKER_01: And people who are in recovery don't look like that.
- 29:21SPEAKER_02: Well, I think there's a three-fold problem.
- 29:23SPEAKER_01: Guys always tell the story.
- 29:25SPEAKER_02: Okay, so there's...
- 29:25SPEAKER_01: The mouth tells the story, too.
- 29:27SPEAKER_01: Like, the teeth tell a very telling story of drug addicts.
- 29:30SPEAKER_02: Why does he sound like this all the time?
- 29:32SPEAKER_02: I can't understand why.
- 29:33SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean, like, I don't even sound like that when I'm sick.
- 29:35SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
- 29:37SPEAKER_01: maybe the...
- 29:38SPEAKER_01: I can't even make my voice sound like that.
- 29:40SPEAKER_01: Does he, like,
- 29:40SPEAKER_02: floss his vocal cords with a raccoon penis bone?
- 29:43SPEAKER_02: Or what is going on?
- 29:44SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't even know.
- 29:46SPEAKER_02: But, I mean...
- 29:47SPEAKER_02: See, there's people who are somewhat,
- 29:49SPEAKER_02: you know, there's people who are unqualified for their jobs.
- 29:53SPEAKER_02: There are people, you know, and then you have people who are willfully ignorant.
- 29:58SPEAKER_02: And then you have people who are, who have an agenda.
- 30:03SPEAKER_02: And the Venn diagram of that,
- 30:06SPEAKER_02: of those types of people is a perfect circle in the Trump administration.
- 30:11SPEAKER_02: Because RFK Jr., Let's face it.
- 30:15SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's not only unqualified for this job.
- 30:18SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's unqualified just straight up.
- 30:21SPEAKER_02: He's willfully ignorant.
- 30:23SPEAKER_02: But he has an agenda.
- 30:24SPEAKER_00: That's an offer.
- 30:27SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 30:27SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm not, you know, he's not qualified for the freaking job.
- 30:31SPEAKER_02: It's a damn shame that, was it Kennedy down in, who is, Cassidy.
- 30:35SPEAKER_02: What the fuck, Bill Cassidy?
- 30:37SPEAKER_02: You know, I can't predict what he's going to do later.
- 30:39SPEAKER_02: No, no.
- 30:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's, that's right.
- 30:42SPEAKER_02: No, you know, you have an MD.
- 30:45SPEAKER_00: Talk about a tone deaf statement.
- 30:48SPEAKER_02: Well, it's not even that.
- 30:49SPEAKER_02: It's not even that, Eric.
- 30:51SPEAKER_02: It's, forget that, you know, no.
- 30:54SPEAKER_02: It's willful ignorance and he's just CYA-ing, okay?
- 31:01SPEAKER_02: He is just trying to say, you know, how was I supposed to know?
- 31:04SPEAKER_02: Well, fuck you, dude.
- 31:05SPEAKER_02: You were supposed to know.
- 31:06SPEAKER_02: You went to medical school for four years.
- 31:08SPEAKER_02: You both did.
- 31:09SPEAKER_02: You both theoretically took a Hippocratic oath to do no harm.
- 31:14SPEAKER_02: And that action,
- 31:16SPEAKER_02: or you probably went more,
- 31:17SPEAKER_02: but you know,
- 31:17SPEAKER_02: but I'm just saying, like, you know, just the base of the MD school, right?
- 31:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, don't ask me about how long I was in graduate school.
- 31:25SPEAKER_02: You know, it was more than four years.
- 31:27SPEAKER_02: But this guy, his- He's on
- 31:30SPEAKER_02: the seven-year plan.
- 31:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
- 31:34SPEAKER_02: I had a six-year PhD program.
- 31:37SPEAKER_02: But- He was literally,
- 31:39SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 31:40SPEAKER_02: stood there and,
- 31:41SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 31:41SPEAKER_02: took that oath to do no harm,
- 31:43SPEAKER_02: appointing this,
- 31:45SPEAKER_02: you know, being the deciding vote for this guy who's not even keeping his right.
- 31:49SPEAKER_02: Didn't he get voted out like primaried or something?
- 31:53SPEAKER_02: Cassidy or, you know, I mean, so
- 31:56SPEAKER_00: how did that work out for you, bro?
- 31:57SPEAKER_00: Because he voted.
- 31:59SPEAKER_00: He voted to impeach Trump.
- 32:01SPEAKER_00: That's why.
- 32:02SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
- 32:03SPEAKER_02: And that was never going to get,
- 32:06SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 32:07SPEAKER_02: that stain,
- 32:08SPEAKER_02: as far as he was concerned,
- 32:09SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 32:09SPEAKER_02: as far as MAGA was concerned or whoever, was never going to go away, right?
- 32:14SPEAKER_02: So, you know what?
- 32:16SPEAKER_02: I'm tired of the, here's what I'm frustrated at.
- 32:22SPEAKER_02: My health insurance premium went up 600%.
- 32:26SPEAKER_02: Why?
- 32:26SPEAKER_02: Because subsidies went away.
- 32:27SPEAKER_02: Some of that's because my income is variable and it changes from year to year.
- 32:31SPEAKER_02: But not only did it go up 600%,
- 32:33SPEAKER_02: I'm lucky I can still afford it,
- 32:35SPEAKER_02: but I went from a plan with just your normal,
- 32:38SPEAKER_02: here's your deductible,
- 32:38SPEAKER_02: here's your copay to,
- 32:40SPEAKER_02: oh no, now you have a higher deductible and you have coinsurance.
- 32:43SPEAKER_02: I have lab work that I've got to get done next week for my own benefit, some blood work.
- 32:50SPEAKER_02: I have to have two separate appointments because it's one of those ones you got
- 32:53SPEAKER_02: to go back and check it again.
- 32:55SPEAKER_02: I just got the estimate.
- 32:56SPEAKER_02: It's $270 each for each one, each appointment that I'm expected to pay.
- 33:03SPEAKER_02: Now, mind you,
- 33:03SPEAKER_02: that's after they said,
- 33:04SPEAKER_02: oh, yes, but by the way, it would have been $900 if you didn't have insurance.
- 33:08SPEAKER_02: First of all, that $900 is a funny money number.
- 33:11SPEAKER_02: Nobody knows what anybody pays, right?
- 33:13SPEAKER_02: But I'm looking at that going,
- 33:16SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 33:18SPEAKER_02: That sucks,
- 33:19SPEAKER_02: but I'll cover it because I want to know what's going on with my blood chemistry
- 33:24SPEAKER_02: and it's worth it for me to stay healthy because I can.
- 33:27SPEAKER_02: But how many people could look at a one-off,
- 33:32SPEAKER_02: an extra $500 or more than that, $540,
- 33:37SPEAKER_02: whatever it comes out to be,
- 33:39SPEAKER_02: I was never a math major, and say, oh yeah, that's no problem.
- 33:42SPEAKER_02: I'll just cover that.
- 33:44SPEAKER_02: Most people probably can't.
- 33:48SPEAKER_02: Um, how the,
- 33:50SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 33:50SPEAKER_02: and I'm, I'm,
- 33:51SPEAKER_02: I've got a ways before,
- 33:52SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 33:53SPEAKER_02: assuming there's still,
- 33:54SPEAKER_02: you know, uh, Medicare, um, you know, I'm certainly not old enough for that.
- 34:00SPEAKER_02: I've got a good 10 years before I'm even, you know, you know, uh, so it's super frustrating.
- 34:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 34:10SPEAKER_02: And Eric, when you went to medicals, was this something that was even on your radar?
- 34:14SPEAKER_02: Like you're all going to be having to do Medicare audit stuff, right?
- 34:17SPEAKER_02: I mean, you didn't go to med school for that.
- 34:18SPEAKER_02: You went to medical school to freaking help people.
- 34:22SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 34:23SPEAKER_00: So I'm glad you brought Medicare because something came
- 34:25SPEAKER_00: across just recently this week where the Republican Senate,
- 34:31SPEAKER_00: the help committee actually announced that
- 34:34SPEAKER_00: the Medicare trust fund will be completely bankrupt by 2034.
- 34:40SPEAKER_00: So this is their brilliant way of trying to fix it.
- 34:43SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 34:44SPEAKER_00: Now keep in mind,
- 34:45SPEAKER_00: they raided the trust fund to pay for the war, for the pay for the Gulf War in 2001.
- 34:49SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 34:50SPEAKER_00: They raided it again to pay for the Part D prescription plan deal.
- 34:56SPEAKER_00: And then Trump raided it to pay for all this other shit.
- 35:00SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 35:01SPEAKER_00: So this was their, this is the Republicans plan to fix the trust fund.
- 35:07SPEAKER_00: They know they can't raise taxes because that's a big no-no.
- 35:11SPEAKER_00: God forbid, because Grover Norquist will have a fucking coronary and blow their shit up, right?
- 35:17SPEAKER_00: Remember that fucking name?
- 35:19SPEAKER_02: Remember Grover Norquist?
- 35:20SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 35:20SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 35:21SPEAKER_00: He said that fucking right-wing think tank for the tax, right?
- 35:24SPEAKER_00: So their whole plan was to, we're going to quietly increase taxes on employers through the FICA.
- 35:33SPEAKER_00: We're going to increase the deduction that comes out of everybody's paychecks.
- 35:38SPEAKER_00: So we're going to fund the boomers who have fucked up the economy,
- 35:43SPEAKER_00: who are on Medicare right now.
- 35:46SPEAKER_00: So we're going to steal from the younger population more money to pay for
- 35:50SPEAKER_00: the boomers because of two reasons.
- 35:53SPEAKER_00: One, remember, Social Security taxes are capped at $184,000.
- 35:57SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 35:58SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 36:01SPEAKER_00: So instead of raising that threshold.
- 36:03SPEAKER_01: Like the first 30
- 36:04SPEAKER_00: seconds of the year.
- 36:06SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 36:06SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
- 36:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
- 36:08SPEAKER_00: So instead of raising that threshold,
- 36:12SPEAKER_00: like raise it to 350 where your taxable income isn't capped at 184.
- 36:17SPEAKER_01: Raise it to 100 million.
- 36:19SPEAKER_01: Raise it to something reasonable.
- 36:21SPEAKER_01: If we have all these millionaires that are in this nation,
- 36:24SPEAKER_01: fucking raise it to 100 million, even a billion.
- 36:27SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 36:28SPEAKER_00: Make it solvent.
- 36:28SPEAKER_00: If this does not happen.
- 36:29SPEAKER_01: We have the solution.
- 36:31SPEAKER_00: Now, I know Nick and I and Jason,
- 36:33SPEAKER_00: we all have a lot of senior boomers that follow us on our Substack's.
- 36:38SPEAKER_00: So here's the reality of what happens, okay?
- 36:42SPEAKER_00: Here's the reality of what happens.
- 36:44SPEAKER_00: If they don't enact some sort of change,
- 36:46SPEAKER_00: everybody's Social Security check is going to get docked $440.
- 36:52SPEAKER_00: You think it's hard enough to survive now?
- 36:55SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 36:56SPEAKER_00: Cut your income by five grand.
- 37:00SPEAKER_00: While prices keep going up.
- 37:02SPEAKER_00: Right?
- 37:03SPEAKER_02: Because if you're lucky,
- 37:04SPEAKER_02: your Social Security check,
- 37:06SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 37:06SPEAKER_02: depending on how much you've worked and the whole thing,
- 37:08SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 37:08SPEAKER_02: you're looking at maybe an extra $1,600,
- 37:11SPEAKER_02: $1,700 a month in Social Security,
- 37:14SPEAKER_02: assuming that,
- 37:15SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 37:15SPEAKER_02: depending on when you retire and, you know, when you take the benefit, right?
- 37:20SPEAKER_02: You know, that's, you know, people forget that.
- 37:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 37:28SPEAKER_02: Social Security was never supposed to be the retirement solution.
- 37:32SPEAKER_02: They had this idea, remember the three-legged stool model?
- 37:38SPEAKER_02: You had personal savings, you had employer pensions, and you had Social Security.
- 37:44SPEAKER_02: Right, plant pensions.
- 37:47SPEAKER_02: So who gets an employer pension?
- 37:48SPEAKER_02: Raise your hand if you get an employer pension.
- 37:51SPEAKER_02: Okay, because I certainly don't.
- 37:52SPEAKER_02: And I'm self-employed, by the way.
- 37:54SPEAKER_02: But even when I was working in a corporate job, that was gone.
- 37:57SPEAKER_02: No, but what did they do with that?
- 38:00SPEAKER_02: Remember what they did with that?
- 38:02SPEAKER_02: Oh, sure they did.
- 38:04SPEAKER_02: And here's a funny story.
- 38:05SPEAKER_02: I think I maybe told you guys this story before.
- 38:07SPEAKER_02: When I first got hired.
- 38:08SPEAKER_00: Nick's over there.
- 38:10SPEAKER_02: No, and I think Shayla's in the chat,
- 38:13SPEAKER_02: and I know she was a school principal,
- 38:16SPEAKER_02: so she gets,
- 38:17SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 38:18SPEAKER_02: but I saw a statistic that only 14% of Gen Xers have anything in terms of a pension.
- 38:25SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
- 38:26SPEAKER_02: they talk about,
- 38:28SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 38:28SPEAKER_02: and then they use these funny words to describe it, you know, DCP versus DPP.
- 38:38SPEAKER_02: DCP, Defined Contribution Plan.
- 38:41SPEAKER_02: That means I'm gonna contribute to something, AKA 401K.
- 38:46SPEAKER_02: My employer may have a match to that.
- 38:48SPEAKER_02: And then it's up to the forces in the market.
- 38:50SPEAKER_02: Now, I'm not suggesting that that's a terrible thing, but it wasn't designed for people like us.
- 38:58SPEAKER_02: That was a bunch of rich people saying, how can we avoid taxes?
- 39:02SPEAKER_02: And they said, oh,
- 39:03SPEAKER_02: if we make this retirement vehicle,
- 39:06SPEAKER_02: Then all of the capital gains that you earn during that time remain untaxed
- 39:13SPEAKER_02: because you're putting in pre-tax dollars,
- 39:18SPEAKER_02: which is a fancy way of saying,
- 39:20SPEAKER_02: okay, if you contribute to your 401k, that's not taxable income.
- 39:25SPEAKER_02: And any growth that happens while it's in that account,
- 39:27SPEAKER_02: as long as you wait until you're,
- 39:29SPEAKER_02: I think it's 59 and a half, you can take out afterwards without any capital gains.
- 39:35SPEAKER_02: If I'm correct, and without any additional tax penalty.
- 39:39SPEAKER_02: You still pay tax on what that would be as income,
- 39:41SPEAKER_02: but you don't pay any additional capital gains tax.
- 39:46SPEAKER_02: Like right now,
- 39:47SPEAKER_02: if you own any kind of stock and you sell some,
- 39:50SPEAKER_02: if you make money, that's taxed, right?
- 39:52SPEAKER_02: That profit is taxed.
- 39:54SPEAKER_02: That's in contrast with a defined payment plan, the DPP.
- 39:58SPEAKER_02: That's a pension.
- 39:59SPEAKER_02: That's where they say if you have 20 years of service with this company and we take
- 40:02SPEAKER_02: the last, you know, your highest average salary from the last three.
- 40:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you look chill back there, Eric.
- 40:10SPEAKER_02: You're just like frozen.
- 40:12SPEAKER_00: It's all good.
- 40:13SPEAKER_00: Nick, you hearing the same thing?
- 40:14SPEAKER_02: But, you know, that's where they say we're going to pay you.
- 40:17SPEAKER_02: $800 a month or $1,500 a month or $3,000 a month,
- 40:20SPEAKER_02: whatever it might be, based on a percentage of your highest average salaries.
- 40:27SPEAKER_02: 14% of people in my generation receive anything like that.
- 40:32SPEAKER_02: That means, you know, the rest of us are kind of in a tight spot.
- 40:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah, tight spot is, I think, an understatement.
- 40:41SPEAKER_01: Here's why this is so important, everybody.
- 40:49SPEAKER_00: Right here.
- 40:49SPEAKER_00: This is from the Cook Political Report.
- 40:53SPEAKER_00: It's right here.
- 40:56SPEAKER_01: Oh, hold on.
- 40:57SPEAKER_01: These seats
- 40:58SPEAKER_00: have to flip.
- 41:01SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
- 41:03SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 41:05SPEAKER_00: Like, these seats have to flip.
- 41:08SPEAKER_02: You're talking about the toss-up one here in the middle?
- 41:11SPEAKER_00: This is the current makeup of the U.S. Senate.
- 41:16SPEAKER_00: So all the seats over here, these are the these are the safe Democratic Senate seats.
- 41:21SPEAKER_00: This is the likely Democratic opening seat in Minnesota.
- 41:25SPEAKER_00: These are the current three that are leaning Democrat right now.
- 41:27SPEAKER_00: I mean, they've taken North Carolina off the board already.
- 41:31SPEAKER_00: OK, these are your six toss ups between Alaska, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Ohio, Texas.
- 41:39SPEAKER_00: Nothing's really leaning Republican right now.
- 41:42SPEAKER_00: And the two likelies, Kansas, Nebraska.
- 41:46SPEAKER_00: And then the solid Republicans with open seats in Oklahoma, Montana, Louisiana, Kentucky.
- 41:55SPEAKER_00: Funny how that's an open seat now, isn't it?
- 41:58SPEAKER_00: See that?
- 41:59SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
- 42:00SPEAKER_01: Where's Mitch?
- 42:01SPEAKER_00: Where's Mitch?
- 42:01SPEAKER_01: Which seat is that?
- 42:03SPEAKER_00: Kentucky.
- 42:04SPEAKER_00: Well, it was going to be
- 42:06SPEAKER_02: an open seat anyway.
- 42:08SPEAKER_02: It's McConnell's seat, but that was going to be McConnell's seat.
- 42:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 42:12SPEAKER_01: He was retiring.
- 42:13SPEAKER_02: He was retiring anyway.
- 42:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that he's, you know.
- 42:17SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 42:18SPEAKER_00: So the point being, everybody, is that this seat's probably going to flip, right?
- 42:26SPEAKER_00: Shut up, newsletter.
- 42:28SPEAKER_00: Okay, Michigan's probably going to stay Democrat.
- 42:31SPEAKER_00: Sherrod Brown's probably going to win Ohio.
- 42:34SPEAKER_00: Tallarico's up five right now in Texas.
- 42:38SPEAKER_00: So this is a flip, flip, flip, flip.
- 42:42SPEAKER_02: And I think Petola is very close.
- 42:46SPEAKER_02: And the interesting data point with her race is that she's already been in a race
- 42:51SPEAKER_02: against her opponent because it was an open primary.
- 42:54SPEAKER_02: So she beat that individual.
- 42:55SPEAKER_00: She already beat Sullivan, right?
- 42:57SPEAKER_02: She's already beat him technically, but now you have the other ones.
- 43:02SPEAKER_00: If there is any chance right now to take over the government,
- 43:07SPEAKER_00: And we've talked about this, Nick.
- 43:09SPEAKER_00: We've mentioned this.
- 43:10SPEAKER_00: The magic number for Democrats is 52.
- 43:12SPEAKER_00: Right.
- 43:14SPEAKER_01: We all saw what happened yesterday.
- 43:16SPEAKER_01: He's now appearing at the midterm convention for the Republicans because he's
- 43:21SPEAKER_01: a sleazebag and he just needs to either resign or become a quote, independent.
- 43:29SPEAKER_01: Fuck you, dude.
- 43:30SPEAKER_01: You're wrong.
- 43:32SPEAKER_01: Agreeing with fascism and enabling.
- 43:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're enabling fascism and you're a piece of shit and you've lied
- 43:38SPEAKER_01: to your constituents in Pennsylvania and Pennsylvanians deserve better.
- 43:42SPEAKER_01: I lived in Pittsburgh and I know people in Pennsylvania and I know the state and it's beautiful.
- 43:47SPEAKER_01: And the people in that fucking state deserve so much better than your lying ass.
- 43:52SPEAKER_01: Like you disrespected veterans.
- 43:54SPEAKER_01: You disrespected disabled veterans.
- 43:56SPEAKER_01: You disrespected people with disabilities consistently.
- 43:59SPEAKER_01: You have a disability, sir.
- 44:02SPEAKER_01: And your disrespect for other people with disabilities is unconscionable and not fucking okay.
- 44:08SPEAKER_01: It kind of makes you feel like maybe the government's correct.
- 44:12SPEAKER_00: I have a problem with Nick calling him sir.
- 44:14SPEAKER_00: I have a real problem with Nick calling him sir.
- 44:17SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
- 44:18SPEAKER_01: Well, I call people sir as an insult when I need to because I was in the army
- 44:22SPEAKER_01: and you only call people sir or ma'am when you know they don't work for a living.
- 44:32SPEAKER_00: Touche.
- 44:34SPEAKER_00: There we go.
- 44:36SPEAKER_00: Officers don't work.
- 44:37SPEAKER_00: But that's my point, everybody.
- 44:38SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is why it's why Nick publishes.
- 44:42SPEAKER_00: It's why he broadcasts.
- 44:43SPEAKER_00: It's why I write what I write.
- 44:44SPEAKER_00: It's why Jason publishes and writes what he writes and does what he does
- 44:50SPEAKER_00: when he's not doing photography.
- 44:52SPEAKER_00: And we've all taken a stand in our own way for democracy.
- 44:56SPEAKER_00: We have all decided...
- 45:03SPEAKER_00: To lay down where we're gonna,
- 45:06SPEAKER_00: where we're gonna sit on the hill and make our, and make our bones, you know?
- 45:11SPEAKER_00: And we, we literally, this is the, and I'm, I'm glad that Americans are waking up.
- 45:17SPEAKER_00: I think it's,
- 45:18SPEAKER_00: I think people are starting to,
- 45:20SPEAKER_00: it's finally starting to hit home
- 45:21SPEAKER_00: that this current administration is not your friend.
- 45:25SPEAKER_00: They don't care about you.
- 45:26SPEAKER_00: There was a story the other day, Nick, did you see that ICE arrested a police officer?
- 45:31SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think I saw that one.
- 45:33SPEAKER_02: I missed that.
- 45:34SPEAKER_02: Great.
- 45:35SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was a police officer.
- 45:38SPEAKER_00: They literally was on the job, on the duty police officer, and they arrested him.
- 45:44SPEAKER_01: Back in the blue, right?
- 45:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah, back in the blue.
- 45:47SPEAKER_01: You guys are doing a great job back in the
- 45:49SPEAKER_00: blue over there.
- 45:51SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is when your police departments aren't even safe from these people.
- 45:56SPEAKER_00: There's a massive problem.
- 45:59SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 45:59SPEAKER_02: there's an interesting,
- 46:00SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 46:01SPEAKER_02: I want to flip back to something on Nick's behalf because he's got
- 46:06SPEAKER_02: the QR code up there somewhere.
- 46:09SPEAKER_01: Top corner over there.
- 46:10SPEAKER_02: Top, top, top, top corner there about say no to Crip Crow.
- 46:14SPEAKER_02: And, you know, I live in a very Republican district.
- 46:21SPEAKER_02: I'm in Colorado Five, which basically represents now the borders have shrunk in a little bit.
- 46:30SPEAKER_02: Because of redistrict, just population growth.
- 46:33SPEAKER_02: El Paso County, Colorado, which is Colorado Springs and surrounding areas, which I'm part of.
- 46:41SPEAKER_02: I have canvassed for Democratic candidates here.
- 46:47SPEAKER_02: We were one of the most
- 46:52SPEAKER_02: leftward swinging districts starting in 2020.
- 46:58SPEAKER_02: Didn't produce Democrats who won, but in terms of the vote going a certain direction.
- 47:06SPEAKER_02: And interestingly enough,
- 47:08SPEAKER_02: when things swung back a little bit more to the right in 2024, we didn't.
- 47:14SPEAKER_02: Now we still elected an absolute do nothing I'm a very, very,
- 47:20SPEAKER_02: very MAGA guy because our previous Congressman was trying to cosplay MAGA
- 47:24SPEAKER_02: and it finally just, he got tired of it.
- 47:27SPEAKER_02: And he did one really great thing for me.
- 47:31SPEAKER_02: I will give Doug Lamborn,
- 47:33SPEAKER_02: our former Congressman, The credit that is due, which is I called his office.
- 47:38SPEAKER_02: They got me in to take one of my photography groups in to a behind the scenes tour
- 47:43SPEAKER_02: of the Capitol in 2015,
- 47:46SPEAKER_02: I think,
- 47:48SPEAKER_02: which was very cool because they showed us around all the underground places,
- 47:52SPEAKER_02: which actually is something that your Congress people and senators will do
- 47:56SPEAKER_02: if you know you're going to go to D.C.,
- 48:00SPEAKER_02: if you give them enough advance,
- 48:01SPEAKER_02: they'll set you up with one of their interns and But anyway, he retired.
- 48:06SPEAKER_02: He resigned or retired.
- 48:08SPEAKER_02: We have a new MAGA guy.
- 48:10SPEAKER_02: Well, Shayla mentioned in the chat that right now the race is within a point.
- 48:16SPEAKER_02: We have a candidate named Jessica Killen.
- 48:20SPEAKER_02: She is military.
- 48:21SPEAKER_02: She was in the Army.
- 48:23SPEAKER_02: We're a military town.
- 48:24SPEAKER_02: We have the Air Force Academy.
- 48:26SPEAKER_02: We have Fort Peterson Air Force Base.
- 48:30SPEAKER_02: We have Fort Carson,
- 48:31SPEAKER_02: which is one of the You know, you talk about all the people getting deployed.
- 48:35SPEAKER_02: They're coming from Fort Carson a lot of the times.
- 48:37SPEAKER_02: We also have Schriever Air Force Base,
- 48:40SPEAKER_02: which flies all the satellites and stuff that are up there.
- 48:45SPEAKER_02: So tremendous military town, tremendous number of retired military town.
- 48:52SPEAKER_02: The fact that that race is close right now tells you, you know, I'm not going to hold my breath.
- 48:58SPEAKER_02: I'm going to vote the way that is.
- 49:00SPEAKER_02: Always vote.
- 49:01SPEAKER_02: But I wanted just to say that when the no Crip Crow thing came out,
- 49:06SPEAKER_02: I just wanted to point out when I saw that you and Naida had had this going on,
- 49:12SPEAKER_02: I reached out to our Democratic side candidate through their website.
- 49:18SPEAKER_02: And I said, you know, this has been my, you know, do you guys know about this?
- 49:22SPEAKER_02: And so her campaign manager actually called me and I went through those issues
- 49:29SPEAKER_02: with her and I,
- 49:30SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 49:31SPEAKER_02: as far as,
- 49:31SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 49:32SPEAKER_02: getting a commitment that's,
- 49:34SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 49:34SPEAKER_02: no candidate has ever,
- 49:36SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 49:36SPEAKER_02: they never,
- 49:37SPEAKER_02: but I mean,
- 49:37SPEAKER_02: I brought up these points and I do now have the email address directly
- 49:41SPEAKER_02: of Killen's campaign manager.
- 49:44SPEAKER_02: So I, you know,
- 49:44SPEAKER_02: every now and then I'll just send an email and say,
- 49:46SPEAKER_02: have you seen those awful YouTube ads that are running that hurt,
- 49:51SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 49:51SPEAKER_02: where he's saying, look at me lowering medical costs and getting rid of waste.
- 49:55SPEAKER_02: I'm like, bitch, my medical costs have gone up crazy amounts.
- 50:01SPEAKER_02: And I'm self-employed.
- 50:02SPEAKER_02: Eric, you mentioned FICA.
- 50:08SPEAKER_02: When you're self-employed, guess who pays 100% of that?
- 50:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're getting hit double like I do.
- 50:14SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 50:14SPEAKER_02: Because when you work a job that has a W-4, W-2 income, your employer matches.
- 50:22SPEAKER_02: So you pay, I think, six and a half, whatever the percent is.
- 50:25SPEAKER_02: So I'm paying 12.
- 50:28SPEAKER_02: Correct.
- 50:29SPEAKER_02: Same here.
- 50:29SPEAKER_02: So that those are, you know, the struggle is real.
- 50:34SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 50:34SPEAKER_02: I'm concerned about,
- 50:37SPEAKER_02: I just got off the phone with my insurance company today
- 50:41SPEAKER_02: because walk-in flu clinics have started.
- 50:46SPEAKER_02: And, you know, it's that time of year.
- 50:48SPEAKER_02: And I always, I do my flu shot.
- 50:50SPEAKER_02: I get everything that I can.
- 50:52SPEAKER_02: But my concern was that, you know, every year around this time, I also try to get a COVID shot.
- 50:59SPEAKER_02: And this is,
- 51:00SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 51:01SPEAKER_02: flipping back to the mission of HHS,
- 51:04SPEAKER_02: which is,
- 51:05SPEAKER_02: I want to read this,
- 51:08SPEAKER_02: the mission statement officially I'm going to read this from the Department
- 51:14SPEAKER_02: of Health and Human Services.
- 51:15SPEAKER_02: To enhance the health and well-being of all Americans by providing
- 51:19SPEAKER_02: for effective health and human services and by fostering sound,
- 51:22SPEAKER_02: sustained advances in the sciences,
- 51:24SPEAKER_02: underlying medicine, public health and social services.
- 51:27SPEAKER_02: Do any of you guys think that that's happening right now?
- 51:31SPEAKER_02: When they are saying vaccines are suspect, your foods are being tainted by God only knows what.
- 51:38SPEAKER_02: And if you want to eat healthy,
- 51:39SPEAKER_02: you run the risk of getting listeria or cyclospora or whatever,
- 51:42SPEAKER_02: you know, one of these horrible things, right?
- 51:46SPEAKER_02: You got a guy who literally is a vaccine denier running the system,
- 51:53SPEAKER_02: saying that measles vaccines, well, you know, we don't.
- 51:57SPEAKER_02: And here's the part that people forget.
- 51:59SPEAKER_02: Let's not forget that our friend RFK,
- 52:02SPEAKER_02: not our friend, but,
- 52:02SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 52:03SPEAKER_02: our enemy RFK,
- 52:04SPEAKER_02: He profits on these supplement whatever bullshit
- 52:12SPEAKER_02: organic health things.
- 52:16SPEAKER_02: He has interest in people taking his products or stuff that he's affiliated with
- 52:22SPEAKER_02: or invested in instead of as their clean eating bullshit.
- 52:28SPEAKER_02: So what am I going to do?
- 52:29SPEAKER_02: Just inject some beef tallow and hope that prevents me from getting sick while I'm,
- 52:34SPEAKER_02: you know, traveling?
- 52:37SPEAKER_02: Because I wanted to know, I said, you know, A, are you going to have them?
- 52:40SPEAKER_02: You know, when are you going to have them?
- 52:41SPEAKER_02: Are you going to have them?
- 52:43SPEAKER_02: And will my insurance cover it?
- 52:45SPEAKER_02: Because, you know, it seems like the rules keep changing.
- 52:51SPEAKER_02: And the states have been doing a pretty good job.
- 52:53SPEAKER_02: And Colorado...
- 52:57SPEAKER_02: People say it's a blue state.
- 52:58SPEAKER_02: It's really more purple.
- 53:00SPEAKER_02: It's blue on balance,
- 53:01SPEAKER_02: but we have our share of crazy,
- 53:05SPEAKER_02: crazy people,
- 53:06SPEAKER_02: not the least of which is our current governor,
- 53:08SPEAKER_02: who is supposedly a Democrat, but he's really a libertarian who leans left.
- 53:14SPEAKER_02: And he has made these Faustian bargains in the hope that,
- 53:19SPEAKER_02: what, maybe we would get some better treatment?
- 53:23SPEAKER_02: But guess what?
- 53:24SPEAKER_02: We're not.
- 53:25SPEAKER_02: When a disaster happens here, what was the story that just came out?
- 53:30SPEAKER_02: They're literally denying aid for things like FEMA and whatever to disasters
- 53:35SPEAKER_02: in states that didn't vote for Trump.
- 53:37SPEAKER_01: Oh, let's see what happens in Hawaii.
- 53:38SPEAKER_01: Well, they're still denying it in places that voted
- 53:41SPEAKER_00: for Trump.
- 53:42SPEAKER_01: Well, right.
- 53:42SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's bad all the way around.
- 53:44SPEAKER_01: We're still dealing with FEMA requests from,
- 53:47SPEAKER_01: I think it's like two or three years ago now,
- 53:49SPEAKER_01: for tornadoes
- 53:50SPEAKER_00: that went through our area.
- 53:52SPEAKER_00: Like...
- 53:52SPEAKER_00: And the people in North Carolina, Western North Carolina, still aren't getting FEMA funds?
- 53:56SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 53:57SPEAKER_01: And I'm in Arkansas, and we voted.
- 54:00SPEAKER_01: Like, our state voted for Trump.
- 54:02SPEAKER_01: And we're not getting anything.
- 54:04SPEAKER_01: So it's it's across the board, too, as I think that's part of the corruption is people are.
- 54:08SPEAKER_02: But I think that's the part that's starting to hit home for people
- 54:11SPEAKER_02: because they're saying, well, wait a minute.
- 54:14SPEAKER_02: I voted for you.
- 54:15SPEAKER_02: Why are you not helping me?
- 54:17SPEAKER_02: And it's one thing to say, well,
- 54:18SPEAKER_02: fuck the Democrats,
- 54:19SPEAKER_02: because, you know, here in Colorado, well, it's those assholes in Denver.
- 54:23SPEAKER_02: I hear that all the time.
- 54:24SPEAKER_02: Those assholes in Denver,
- 54:25SPEAKER_02: meaning, you know, the Democrats in our state legislature and a governor.
- 54:29SPEAKER_02: But No,
- 54:31SPEAKER_02: when it's like you don't have any excuse if you live in Arkansas and you have
- 54:36SPEAKER_02: a hardcore Republican governor and statehouse and senators,
- 54:45SPEAKER_02: it's getting hard to avoid.
- 54:46SPEAKER_01: You drive past the sign for gas and it's $4.50
- 54:49SPEAKER_02: a gallon.
- 54:50SPEAKER_01: We're a Republican supermajority.
- 54:53SPEAKER_01: There is no excuse.
- 54:54SPEAKER_01: It's just like when people in Texas or Texas Republicans go,
- 54:58SPEAKER_01: oh, but the Democrats have been hurting you.
- 55:01SPEAKER_01: Who's been in charge in Texas for the last 30 fucking years?
- 55:05SPEAKER_01: It's Republic.
- 55:06SPEAKER_01: I saw a meme.
- 55:06SPEAKER_01: I can't verify if it's true.
- 55:09SPEAKER_01: They went from like a top education state to near the bottom once they got rid
- 55:15SPEAKER_01: of their democratic government.
- 55:17SPEAKER_02: They were something like seventh when Ann Richards was governor.
- 55:21SPEAKER_01: They were something like seven.
- 55:22SPEAKER_01: God forbid something good happened because a woman did it.
- 55:26SPEAKER_01: So they had to undo all of it because they're weak and confident men
- 55:29SPEAKER_01: who can't stand up to strong women who can lead or anybody who can lead
- 55:34SPEAKER_01: and do stuff.
- 55:35SPEAKER_01: So they take it all away because we can't have nice things,
- 55:38SPEAKER_01: but they can sure as hell steal shit from us.
- 55:41SPEAKER_02: I want to go back and take steal something from a comedian.
- 55:47SPEAKER_02: God, and I think it was George Carlin who, you know, may he rest ever peacefully.
- 55:54SPEAKER_02: I think it was George Carlin,
- 55:55SPEAKER_02: but I could be wrong, so don't quote me out, you know, don't hold me to it.
- 55:59SPEAKER_02: But he said, you know, Republicans are the party of bad ideas.
- 56:08SPEAKER_02: The Democrats are the party of no ideas.
- 56:11SPEAKER_02: And that's why we're here.
- 56:14SPEAKER_02: Because for 30, 50,
- 56:16SPEAKER_02: going back to the late 60s,
- 56:19SPEAKER_02: there's been an agenda and whether you bought into it or you just came
- 56:25SPEAKER_02: into it sideways because you didn't like abortions or something,
- 56:28SPEAKER_02: how are you chose to join the Republican Party?
- 56:31SPEAKER_02: They have had a mission and they have been on that mission.
- 56:34SPEAKER_02: Playing the long game for 50 plus years.
- 56:39SPEAKER_02: The whole thing with,
- 56:40SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 56:40SPEAKER_02: it's just a matter of what was their mechanism to get involved
- 56:43SPEAKER_02: because they couldn't set it up.
- 56:45SPEAKER_02: You know, the infrastructure for things like the media landscape wasn't there.
- 56:49SPEAKER_02: You know, people talk about, I was thinking about this yesterday.
- 56:54SPEAKER_02: People started hating social media because it got political, right?
- 56:58SPEAKER_02: You know, getting everything, even Substack has gotten, you know, it is.
- 57:01SPEAKER_02: But it's not politics that's the issue here.
- 57:05SPEAKER_02: It's Trumpism.
- 57:08SPEAKER_02: And, you know, I got on Facebook early, fairly early, like late 2008, 2009, somewhere in there.
- 57:16SPEAKER_02: And, you know,
- 57:18SPEAKER_02: it was just me and people like playing Farmville and Mafia Wars and whatever
- 57:22SPEAKER_02: and reconnecting with dudes from high school who I haven't seen forever
- 57:26SPEAKER_02: because we didn't have email to connect with them.
- 57:28SPEAKER_02: And there was a short period of time.
- 57:30SPEAKER_02: But when,
- 57:33SPEAKER_02: it might have even been earlier than that,
- 57:35SPEAKER_02: but You know,
- 57:36SPEAKER_02: once we had Obama get elected,
- 57:41SPEAKER_02: the crazies started showing up and screaming all over social media.
- 57:46SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 57:47SPEAKER_02: no one was screaming like,
- 57:48SPEAKER_02: you know, I mean,
- 57:49SPEAKER_02: I was maybe screaming that we wanted better health care or something like that.
- 57:52SPEAKER_02: But you notice that it was like it started with,
- 57:54SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 57:55SPEAKER_02: it was the Tea Party people that,
- 57:56SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 57:56SPEAKER_02: morphed into the MAGA people, but they really took over social media, you know.
- 58:02SPEAKER_02: And look,
- 58:02SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to argue that there aren't I'm not going
- 58:05SPEAKER_02: to say there's not conspiracy theories on both sides.
- 58:07SPEAKER_02: There is.
- 58:08SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of,
- 58:09SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 58:09SPEAKER_02: social media brings out the worst in everybody and it's clickbait,
- 58:14SPEAKER_02: you know, rage bait drives your algorithm.
- 58:17SPEAKER_02: I left Facebook a couple of years ago and I don't regret it other
- 58:21SPEAKER_02: than maybe selling stuff on Facebook marketplace on occasion.
- 58:25SPEAKER_02: But, you know, if you think about it, by 2016, those people had gotten rabid.
- 58:31SPEAKER_02: It wasn't.
- 58:32SPEAKER_02: Politics,
- 58:33SPEAKER_02: it was these crazy people screaming about racist memes about Obama and Hillary
- 58:39SPEAKER_02: and whatever.
- 58:40SPEAKER_02: It was this, you know, 30 odd percent minority that became the loudest voices in the room.
- 58:47SPEAKER_02: That's, you know, and we let
- 58:50SPEAKER_01: it happen.
- 58:51SPEAKER_01: We let it happen is the problem.
- 58:53SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, yeah, we did.
- 58:54SPEAKER_02: I mean, but that's the thing.
- 58:57SPEAKER_02: So when people say,
- 58:57SPEAKER_02: I don't like social media because it's so political,
- 59:00SPEAKER_02: it's like, well, yes, you're right.
- 59:01SPEAKER_02: But if you look back at the origins of that,
- 59:03SPEAKER_02: and I did not do a study on this,
- 59:05SPEAKER_02: you know, I didn't do a deep dive or anything like that.
- 59:07SPEAKER_01: We don't have peer review research right now.
- 59:10SPEAKER_02: No, I have some, but it's not on that topic, unfortunately.
- 59:14SPEAKER_02: But, you know, if you think about it, it wasn't people on the left in 20...
- 59:21SPEAKER_02: In 2014,
- 59:23SPEAKER_02: screaming about we need better healthcare,
- 59:25SPEAKER_02: it was people on the right screaming, oh my God, you're trying to make us socialist.
- 59:32SPEAKER_02: That was the loudest voices in the room.
- 59:34SPEAKER_02: At least it was to me.
- 59:36SPEAKER_02: Thinking back on this,
- 59:37SPEAKER_02: my memory might be murky,
- 59:39SPEAKER_02: but if MAGA were to disappear, who would be making money anymore?
- 59:48SPEAKER_02: What would the media be doing?
- 59:50SPEAKER_02: If you can't sell outrage, you know.
- 59:53SPEAKER_00: They'll sell fear some other way.
- 59:57SPEAKER_00: Well, sure.
- 59:57SPEAKER_02: But, you know, I mean, somebody.
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_00: Fear mongering and stupidity.
- 1:00:05SPEAKER_02: And weaponized stupidity.
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_00: Listen, this was all part of Project 2025.
- 1:00:09SPEAKER_00: And this was going on well before that.
- 1:00:12SPEAKER_00: It was make America stupid, make America poor, and make America sick.
- 1:00:20SPEAKER_00: And when you do that, you can control the population, okay?
- 1:00:23SPEAKER_00: So that you can build shit like this.
- 1:00:29SPEAKER_02: And don't educate America either.
- 1:00:30SPEAKER_02: I think you're going to need to share this one.
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_00: So that you can build shit like this, okay?
- 1:00:36SPEAKER_00: There is no reason this needs to be bigger than the fucking Art de Triomphe in Paris.
- 1:00:43SPEAKER_01: Also, if they can, with a straight face, say that we don't have money to fund healthcare...
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_01: Then this shit isn't necessary.
- 1:00:54SPEAKER_01: Then we don't have the money to fund this either.
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_01: If we can't fund our health care or
- 1:00:58SPEAKER_01: our education system, then we don't need a fucking arc.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 1:01:04SPEAKER_00: Well, and here's what bothers me even more.
- 1:01:06SPEAKER_00: Everybody's been wondering,
- 1:01:07SPEAKER_00: this is how much everything's going to fucking cost when it's all fucking said
- 1:01:10SPEAKER_00: and done.
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 1:01:12SPEAKER_00: The arc is going to cost a hundred million.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:01:17SPEAKER_01: I'm going to guess it's going to be a lot higher than that.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_00: It's going to be a lot harder than that.
- 1:01:20SPEAKER_00: Multiply by five.
- 1:01:22SPEAKER_00: We already know the ballroom's at a billion.
- 1:01:25SPEAKER_00: Okay?
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_00: The Lincoln Memorial reflecting...
- 1:01:32SPEAKER_00: This is probably the dumbest fucking thing that was done.
- 1:01:35SPEAKER_00: Okay?
- 1:01:37SPEAKER_00: And then the Kennedy Center, which, you know, I mean, enough, right?
- 1:01:41SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not saying that the buildings and
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_00: the executive office buildings don't need upgrades because you have to upgrade them.
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_00: Okay?
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_00: Okay?
- 1:01:49SPEAKER_00: But the whole point is he's literally changing the entire facade of Washington, D.C. Oh, yeah.
- 1:01:56SPEAKER_00: I hate to break it to you.
- 1:01:57SPEAKER_00: Nobody's ever going to fucking call it Trump, D.C. anymore.
- 1:02:00SPEAKER_00: Like it's always going to be Washington, D.C.,
- 1:02:02SPEAKER_00: just like I'll never call fucking PBI those other three fucking letters for
- 1:02:06SPEAKER_00: that stupid airport.
- 1:02:07SPEAKER_00: OK, my fucking home airport.
- 1:02:09SPEAKER_00: OK, National Garden of American Heroes.
- 1:02:14SPEAKER_00: Now, we've never I've never even heard of this.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a new one to me.
- 1:02:18SPEAKER_00: The plans include 250 life-size statues of famous figures so that birds can shit all over them.
- 1:02:27SPEAKER_00: Like Washington, Presley, Ronald Reagan, Kobe Bryant.
- 1:02:32SPEAKER_00: Now, if you're going to build something like this, that's fine.
- 1:02:35SPEAKER_00: But do it through the proper channels with Congress.
- 1:02:38SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is something that I would love to go to.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I actually like visiting DC in the before times because it's one of
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_02: the most beautiful cities that we have.
- 1:02:50SPEAKER_02: It's the most unique city in America in terms of just how it was laid out.
- 1:02:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's beautiful.
- 1:02:55SPEAKER_00: I mean, the Rose Garden,
- 1:02:56SPEAKER_00: that's a whole nother, like, that's just going to rub everybody the wrong way.
- 1:03:00SPEAKER_00: And then all the projects that are literally causing issues.
- 1:03:03SPEAKER_00: I mean, but for all of this,
- 1:03:05SPEAKER_00: this total price tag,
- 1:03:06SPEAKER_00: everybody, if you're counting, is about $1.5 billion right now.
- 1:03:13SPEAKER_00: And this thing's just a,
- 1:03:14SPEAKER_00: and by the way,
- 1:03:14SPEAKER_00: Nick, didn't we talk about this, what the imagery was with this imagery up here?
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_01: It's very, this is all very Nazi-esque.
- 1:03:23SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is.
- 1:03:23SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, there was the Hitler arch that was going to happen.
- 1:03:26SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:03:27SPEAKER_02: He wants this one to be bigger than that.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_02: No, it's absolutely, well, I mean, don't even start me on the new Space Force uniforms.
- 1:03:34SPEAKER_02: I mean, Jesus God, that's like straight up.
- 1:03:38SPEAKER_02: I mean, we can be funny about it.
- 1:03:40SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know,
- 1:03:43SPEAKER_02: Ellie Leonard,
- 1:03:44SPEAKER_02: at least she was the first one who called them Spaceballs uniforms, which I agree.
- 1:03:48SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's hysterical.
- 1:03:49SPEAKER_02: She was the first one I saw calling them that.
- 1:03:51SPEAKER_02: That is hysterical, yeah.
- 1:03:52SPEAKER_02: But even if you go with the more commonly accepted Starship Troopers,
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_02: which was a terrible movie.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_02: I saw it when it came out, and I only saw that movie for one reason.
- 1:04:04SPEAKER_02: And it was because it had the trailer for the,
- 1:04:10SPEAKER_02: it was one of the movies that had a trailer for episode one of Star Wars.
- 1:04:15SPEAKER_02: I know people probably haven't seen this.
- 1:04:17SPEAKER_01: I'm going to push back because I love Starship Troopers
- 1:04:20SPEAKER_01: because most people don't realize that it's a parody on fascism.
- 1:04:25SPEAKER_01: Like it's an analog on fascism.
- 1:04:29SPEAKER_01: And like, Yes,
- 1:04:30SPEAKER_01: you're supposed to see the rah-rah in it,
- 1:04:33SPEAKER_01: but it is also just specifically about exposing the bullshit that is fascism.
- 1:04:39SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so Star Troopers, there was another one.
- 1:04:42SPEAKER_02: Maybe I'm getting my movies crossed.
- 1:04:45SPEAKER_00: I mean, just the fucking Nazi talk of this is just crazy.
- 1:04:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I mean, even if Starship Troopers didn't exist...
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_02: That's a Nazi fucking uniform.
- 1:04:56SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
- 1:04:59SPEAKER_02: I watched all those shows,
- 1:05:00SPEAKER_02: you know, look,
- 1:05:01SPEAKER_02: I watched Wonder Woman when I was a kid and she fought Nazis and,
- 1:05:04SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 1:05:05SPEAKER_02: you know, Captain America punches Nazis and, and they were all dressed that way.
- 1:05:10SPEAKER_02: Superman punches Nazis.
- 1:05:13SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_01: Like what, like,
- 1:05:16SPEAKER_01: All we're doing is making caricatures of ourselves and yeah these are
- 1:05:20SPEAKER_01: the most SS like straight up uniforms that you can get.
- 1:05:26SPEAKER_01: This is Imperial officers with their shiny high black boots that they're gonna have
- 1:05:30SPEAKER_01: to polish because those boots don't stay shiny themselves
- 1:05:34SPEAKER_01: so these folks are gonna have to sit there and polish those fucking boots.
- 1:05:37SPEAKER_01: We got rid of polished boots a while ago In the military.
- 1:05:42SPEAKER_01: Now, welcome back.
- 1:05:43SPEAKER_01: You guys get Nazi uniforms.
- 1:05:45SPEAKER_01: I mean, the only thing he's missing is a riding fan.
- 1:05:50SPEAKER_02: This is insane.
- 1:05:51SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, like a little
- 1:05:54SPEAKER_02: riding crop
- 1:05:56SPEAKER_00: or something.
- 1:05:57SPEAKER_00: Even the rank insignias.
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_00: Look at the 03.
- 1:06:00SPEAKER_00: It's way down to bottom.
- 1:06:03SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you have the star, and then you've got like the Enterprise.
- 1:06:08SPEAKER_02: Right, the Star Trek Delta, right there.
- 1:06:10SPEAKER_00: Star Trek, right?
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_00: I mean, but look at the service dress.
- 1:06:15SPEAKER_00: I mean, that is not an American Eagle.
- 1:06:18SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's like, I mean, this is like right out of the Third Reich.
- 1:06:25SPEAKER_02: I'm assuming Stephen Miller was the chief fashion designer for these.
- 1:06:32SPEAKER_02: I mean, I just got a guess, but I just, you know.
- 1:06:35SPEAKER_00: I mean, listen,
- 1:06:36SPEAKER_00: we all fought,
- 1:06:37SPEAKER_00: like our forefathers and our ancestors fought World War
- 1:06:43SPEAKER_00: and our families fought World War II so
- 1:06:45SPEAKER_00: that this shit would never fucking happen again.
- 1:06:47SPEAKER_00: And I will be damned as I breathe air on this planet.
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_00: If I ever see a uniform like that.
- 1:06:59SPEAKER_02: Even the current German military doesn't
- 1:07:03SPEAKER_00: have that.
- 1:07:04SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
- 1:07:06SPEAKER_02: I mean, going back to the arch, it's emblematic of How this administration functions.
- 1:07:16SPEAKER_02: And I know people are like, but that's illegal under the courts.
- 1:07:19SPEAKER_02: And a lot of the,
- 1:07:20SPEAKER_02: especially the lower courts have been doing tremendous work in terms
- 1:07:24SPEAKER_02: of attempting this.
- 1:07:26SPEAKER_02: They don't care.
- 1:07:28SPEAKER_02: The administration
- 1:07:33SPEAKER_02: operates under that premise of it's better to beg for forgiveness
- 1:07:38SPEAKER_02: after the fact than ask for permission
- 1:07:41SPEAKER_01: They are doing things.
- 1:07:42SPEAKER_01: They don't even do that.
- 1:07:43SPEAKER_01: They're certainly not even doing that.
- 1:07:45SPEAKER_02: But they're basically saying, I dare you to freaking do anything about this.
- 1:07:50SPEAKER_02: And by the time the courts do act,
- 1:07:53SPEAKER_02: because courts move slow,
- 1:07:54SPEAKER_02: even when they're correct, they've got a big asshole on the ground in D.C.
- 1:08:00SPEAKER_02: Or next to the White House,
- 1:08:02SPEAKER_02: or regardless of whether construction, you know, they're just going to do.
- 1:08:06SPEAKER_02: And until somebody on the opposition,
- 1:08:10SPEAKER_02: and this is why I think the Democratic Party has a low favorability as a party.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_02: Where is the person throwing the sand in the gears?
- 1:08:20SPEAKER_02: Where is the guy who's going to counter Tommy fucking Tuberville,
- 1:08:25SPEAKER_02: who has got to be the dumbest box of rocks I've ever seen?
- 1:08:29SPEAKER_02: More so than Mark
- 1:08:31SPEAKER_00: Wayne Mullin?
- 1:08:33SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, there's an ongoing content.
- 1:08:35SPEAKER_02: Mark Wayne's not in the Senate anymore.
- 1:08:37SPEAKER_02: So in terms of, I think Tommy Toomerville gets to be the worst.
- 1:08:43SPEAKER_02: But he was sitting there.
- 1:08:44SPEAKER_02: How many military promotions did he block?
- 1:08:48SPEAKER_02: Simply because unanimous consent is required.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_02: The Senate has rules and they follow those rules.
- 1:08:54SPEAKER_02: So fucking use them.
- 1:08:56SPEAKER_02: This is why we're pissed at people like Chuck Schumer.
- 1:08:59SPEAKER_02: Not because Chuck Schumer doesn't have the right policies.
- 1:09:03SPEAKER_02: I probably agree with 90 plus percent of Chuck Schumer's policy stuff.
- 1:09:09SPEAKER_02: But why aren't you freaking doing anything?
- 1:09:11SPEAKER_02: Well, we wrote another letter.
- 1:09:13SPEAKER_00: Because...
- 1:09:15SPEAKER_00: Because it's supposed to be the Senate is the intellectual side of government.
- 1:09:19SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but the Senate used to have duels.
- 1:09:23SPEAKER_01: We've had duels.
- 1:09:24SPEAKER_01: So they can shut the fuck up about intellectualism.
- 1:09:27SPEAKER_01: They shot each other at one point in our history.
- 1:09:30SPEAKER_01: And look at that.
- 1:09:34SPEAKER_01: I'm not suggesting it comes to that.
- 1:09:37SPEAKER_01: No, I'm not suggesting it comes to that either.
- 1:09:40SPEAKER_01: But it's like, what are they going to do?
- 1:09:41SPEAKER_01: Maybe it should actually.
- 1:09:42SPEAKER_01: Maybe it should come
- 1:09:43SPEAKER_00: back down to that.
- 1:09:45SPEAKER_01: But the unanimous consent is
- 1:09:47SPEAKER_02: following the rules.
- 1:09:48SPEAKER_01: If a senator ejects the rules
- 1:09:50SPEAKER_02: to your advantage.
- 1:09:51SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 1:09:52SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying break the rules.
- 1:09:54SPEAKER_02: I'm saying just do what the other side is doing, which is using those rules.
- 1:09:59SPEAKER_02: Let's not forget why we're here.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_02: We're here because of one man.
- 1:10:04SPEAKER_02: And it ain't Donald J. Trump.
- 1:10:06SPEAKER_02: It's Mitch fucking McConnell.
- 1:10:09SPEAKER_02: We are here because Mitch McConnell implemented everything before Trump was even elected.
- 1:10:16SPEAKER_02: He stole Supreme Court seats.
- 1:10:18SPEAKER_02: He literally went around the rules.
- 1:10:22SPEAKER_02: And nobody had the wherewithal to say, fuck you, push back.
- 1:10:27SPEAKER_02: Or, you know, oh, I guess we have to play by the rules because Mitch said, no, screw that guy.
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_02: You know, let's not forget all the pictures of Mitch in the 80s with the...
- 1:10:36SPEAKER_01: Confederate flag behind him, okay?
- 1:10:39SPEAKER_01: Or that he used to be called Moscow Mitch because he took a lot of money from Russia.
- 1:10:43SPEAKER_01: So let's not forget about who actually started all of this.
- 1:10:48SPEAKER_01: Moscow fucking Mitch McConnell, who's missing.
- 1:10:53SPEAKER_01: MIA Mitch.
- 1:10:54SPEAKER_01: MIA, possibly KIA, of his own accord because he's old and health problems happen.
- 1:11:03SPEAKER_00: He's FIA.
- 1:11:05SPEAKER_00: He's NFIA, non-functionally.
- 1:11:10SPEAKER_01: Whatever he is, he ain't coming back.
- 1:11:12SPEAKER_00: He's not coming back.
- 1:11:17SPEAKER_01: This is a precursor to what they're going to do when Trump dies, too.
- 1:11:20SPEAKER_00: I posted that 90 fucking days ago he wasn't coming back.
- 1:11:24SPEAKER_01: Ever.
- 1:11:24SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we all knew he wasn't.
- 1:11:26SPEAKER_01: This is just a way for them to grift more money.
- 1:11:30SPEAKER_01: Well, a lot of people thought they were going to come back.
- 1:11:33SPEAKER_02: So he implemented that.
- 1:11:34SPEAKER_02: He could have he could have had the Republicans impeach the MFR because he had
- 1:11:40SPEAKER_02: that much power in the Senate.
- 1:11:42SPEAKER_02: And at that moment,
- 1:11:43SPEAKER_02: there wasn't anybody in the Senate who didn't see
- 1:11:45SPEAKER_02: with their own two eyes what what had happened on January 6th.
- 1:11:48SPEAKER_02: OK, the fact that he caved,
- 1:11:51SPEAKER_02: you know, meant that power was more important to him than his country.
- 1:11:55SPEAKER_02: So, you know, if there's an anti the
- 1:11:57SPEAKER_00: point, no.
- 1:11:58SPEAKER_00: No, no, it was the Supreme Court.
- 1:12:00SPEAKER_00: He wanted the majority on the court before he died.
- 1:12:03SPEAKER_00: That was his whole mission.
- 1:12:06SPEAKER_00: He was plain as day,
- 1:12:07SPEAKER_00: even back in the 80s about that,
- 1:12:09SPEAKER_00: how he wanted the court to be a conservative majority for 20 years.
- 1:12:15SPEAKER_00: That was his whole plan.
- 1:12:16SPEAKER_02: Well, he's got 6'3 right now.
- 1:12:18SPEAKER_02: And one of those came in right before the 2020 election.
- 1:12:22SPEAKER_02: So hypocrisy is meaningless.
- 1:12:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:12:30SPEAKER_02: Back when I used to be a long-haired metal guy,
- 1:12:36SPEAKER_02: one of my favorite bands,
- 1:12:38SPEAKER_02: one of the all-time favorite bands,
- 1:12:40SPEAKER_02: if you are into heavy metal at all, is Motorhead.
- 1:12:45SPEAKER_02: Motorhead, Lemmy, fucking A, man.
- 1:12:49SPEAKER_02: I saw them at a club once, I saw them multiple times.
- 1:12:54SPEAKER_02: They have an album called And the title is bizarre,
- 1:12:58SPEAKER_02: the song title is weird, but bear with me, work with me on this.
- 1:13:03SPEAKER_02: Look up the lyrics to a song called Orgasmatron by Motorhead, okay?
- 1:13:11SPEAKER_02: It's not what you think.
- 1:13:14SPEAKER_02: The name itself is...
- 1:13:18SPEAKER_02: This came out in the 80s, I think the early 80s.
- 1:13:23SPEAKER_02: The lyrics are fucking on point to all of this because it talks about religion
- 1:13:29SPEAKER_02: and politicians and how everyone is a sycophant.
- 1:13:33SPEAKER_02: And I swear to freaking God, I used to have that.
- 1:13:37SPEAKER_02: I took the lyrics and printed them out on my image writer printer.
- 1:13:41SPEAKER_02: You know what the ribbon is?
- 1:13:42SPEAKER_02: You know, going through the thing.
- 1:13:45SPEAKER_02: In old English font,
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_02: in an old English font,
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_02: like Lucida Blackletter,
- 1:13:51SPEAKER_02: or one of those ones on my Mac in college,
- 1:13:54SPEAKER_02: and I tack that thing up to my door because In the hope that people would read it.
- 1:14:02SPEAKER_02: And if you read, I'm not making this up.
- 1:14:04SPEAKER_02: If you read through that,
- 1:14:06SPEAKER_02: it applies to almost every level of our government with maybe the exception of RFK
- 1:14:11SPEAKER_02: because they didn't have HHS things, but it talks about all of this.
- 1:14:17SPEAKER_02: And if you're a metalhead, just side note, Sepultura has an excellent cover of that song.
- 1:14:23SPEAKER_02: So I'll just run out there.
- 1:14:26SPEAKER_02: But yeah,
- 1:14:26SPEAKER_02: Google those lyrics because it's absolutely on point for this dystopia
- 1:14:32SPEAKER_02: that we're living in now.
- 1:14:35SPEAKER_02: So, there you go.
- 1:14:36SPEAKER_00: I can one-up you, Jason.
- 1:14:37SPEAKER_00: I wanted to bring in some pop culture.
- 1:14:38SPEAKER_02: How about Fall of Confusion by the Temptation?
- 1:14:42SPEAKER_02: Oh, I'll have to look that one up.
- 1:14:43SPEAKER_00: Fight the Power, Public Enemy.
- 1:14:45SPEAKER_00: Fight the Power, Killing in the Name of Rage.
- 1:14:46SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, any of those.
- 1:14:48SPEAKER_00: I mean, we can go through anything.
- 1:14:49SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, those are all...
- 1:14:51SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah,
- 1:14:52SPEAKER_02: those are all really good,
- 1:14:53SPEAKER_02: but I'm partial to the Motorhead one just because of the progression in the,
- 1:14:59SPEAKER_02: you know, it wasn't just screaming about one thing.
- 1:15:01SPEAKER_02: And then, yeah, and hey, I saw Public Enemy live once with Anthrax.
- 1:15:07SPEAKER_02: They did bring the noise together.
- 1:15:10SPEAKER_02: It was pretty badass, just saying.
- 1:15:12SPEAKER_02: But...
- 1:15:15SPEAKER_01: Let's read the middle verse here from Orgasmatron.
- 1:15:19SPEAKER_02: I kiss the
- 1:15:20SPEAKER_01: truth.
- 1:15:20SPEAKER_01: I rule the world.
- 1:15:21SPEAKER_01: My crown is called deceit.
- 1:15:23SPEAKER_01: I am the emperor of lies.
- 1:15:25SPEAKER_01: You grovel at my feet.
- 1:15:27SPEAKER_01: I rob you and I slaughter you.
- 1:15:29SPEAKER_01: Your downfall is my game.
- 1:15:31SPEAKER_01: And still you play the sycophant and revel in your pain.
- 1:15:35SPEAKER_01: And all my promises are lies.
- 1:15:37SPEAKER_01: All my love is hate.
- 1:15:39SPEAKER_01: I am the politician and I decide your fate.
- 1:15:41SPEAKER_01: I decide your fate.
- 1:15:43SPEAKER_02: Yes, 100%.
- 1:15:45SPEAKER_02: See, that's what I'm saying.
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_02: And it's even more badass when Lemmy is singing it.
- 1:15:49SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:15:49SPEAKER_01: And not just me reading it on a bass level.
- 1:15:53SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:15:54SPEAKER_02: That was something that was ingrained into me in the early,
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_02: when I was in college and it had been out for a while,
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_02: even before that,
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_02: I didn't have that album, but I'm like, boy, that is so on point for things.
- 1:16:07SPEAKER_02: And
- 1:16:10SPEAKER_02: It's gotten more true as the years have gone by.
- 1:16:14SPEAKER_00: But isn't that the case of most of a lot of music?
- 1:16:19SPEAKER_00: A lot of the music comes out of political dissidence?
- 1:16:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a lot of
- 1:16:24SPEAKER_00: music is about
- 1:16:25SPEAKER_02: politics.
- 1:16:25SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's a dystopian universe kind of song right there.
- 1:16:29SPEAKER_01: Rock opera put out some really good political hits.
- 1:16:34SPEAKER_01: Like, if you want a good anti-political or like
- 1:16:40SPEAKER_01: Working your way forward is good songs about fascism and different things.
- 1:16:47SPEAKER_01: Go to rock operas.
- 1:16:49SPEAKER_01: They're the go-to.
- 1:16:52SPEAKER_01: Those guys and gals and everywhere in between were like, yeah, I know what I'm doing.
- 1:16:58SPEAKER_01: I know the assignment.
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_01: I understand the assignment.
- 1:17:01SPEAKER_01: Go listen to 2112 by Rush.
- 1:17:03SPEAKER_01: That song is literally about a post-fascistic world.
- 1:17:08SPEAKER_01: And like the destruction of anything fun and beautiful and pretty.
- 1:17:11SPEAKER_01: Like all of it.
- 1:17:14SPEAKER_01: Rock opera is about fascism and we need to fight fascism together on that.
- 1:17:19SPEAKER_02: I will throw out Operation Mindcrime by Queensryche.
- 1:17:24SPEAKER_02: Banger of an album.
- 1:17:25SPEAKER_02: It's a rock opera.
- 1:17:26SPEAKER_02: Talks about a guy manipulating people.
- 1:17:33SPEAKER_01: Rock stars knew what they were doing.
- 1:17:34SPEAKER_01: They understood the assignment.
- 1:17:36SPEAKER_01: All right, gents.
- 1:17:38SPEAKER_01: Well, Eric is off video here.
- 1:17:40SPEAKER_01: We are a little longer than our hour, which is pretty awesome.
- 1:17:45SPEAKER_01: It's been a great conversation.
- 1:17:46SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 1:17:47SPEAKER_01: Sorry, guys.
- 1:17:47SPEAKER_00: I had to fill out a physical therapy prescription for a patient.
- 1:17:51SPEAKER_02: Let's switch over here to
- 1:17:54SPEAKER_01: promoting ourselves and where people can find us.
- 1:17:57SPEAKER_01: And we'll start with you, Jason,
- 1:17:59SPEAKER_01: is shamelessly promote yourself and how people can support your work,
- 1:18:02SPEAKER_01: what you're doing, where they can find you here.
- 1:18:06SPEAKER_02: Well, you can hit the QR code, hit the subscribe if you're in the Substack.
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- 1:19:23SPEAKER_02: I am on live at 8pm Eastern with the rebel crone Shayla to do
- 1:19:29SPEAKER_02: a Gen X show called Latchkey Hour,
- 1:19:32SPEAKER_02: which is the antithesis of all the nonsense we have to deal with today.
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- 1:19:57SPEAKER_02: We're going to talk about the masculinity stereotypes of the 80s
- 1:20:02SPEAKER_02: and how we're all traumatized by things like Rambo and Commando and stuff like that.
- 1:20:07SPEAKER_02: Predator.
- 1:20:09SPEAKER_02: Predator, yeah.
- 1:20:10SPEAKER_02: You know, we grew up in Rocky 3.
- 1:20:12SPEAKER_02: There's a, you know, Macho Man movie for you, right?
- 1:20:17SPEAKER_02: So we're going to talk about all those things.
- 1:20:18SPEAKER_02: We've got some great guests coming in.
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- 1:20:23SPEAKER_02: So if you click on her and subscribe,
- 1:20:24SPEAKER_02: that would help her out a lot because she's the one who runs that.
- 1:20:27SPEAKER_02: But it's really fun because we try not to talk about
- 1:20:31SPEAKER_02: the dystopian hellscape we're living in right now.
- 1:20:35SPEAKER_00: No, we leave that for Nick and me to talk about every Thursday.
- 1:20:38SPEAKER_01: There you go.
- 1:20:39SPEAKER_01: That's our job.
- 1:20:39SPEAKER_01: I got to be a part of it.
- 1:20:40SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's our job.
- 1:20:42SPEAKER_01: Doc, Eric, how about you, my friend?
- 1:20:44SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 1:20:44SPEAKER_00: I'm going to do this really quick,
- 1:20:45SPEAKER_00: everybody, because I have to jump to a Medicare hearing in about five minutes.
- 1:20:49SPEAKER_00: These judges are really annoying if you call in late, so I'm going to bounce real quick here.
- 1:20:53SPEAKER_00: Hi, everybody.
- 1:20:54SPEAKER_00: Again, here I am on Diogenes once again, paired up with my buddy Nick.
- 1:20:59SPEAKER_00: You can find my stuff here on Substack.
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- 1:21:16SPEAKER_00: like Michael Cohen's potential fucking
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- 1:21:20SPEAKER_01: at some point.
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- 1:21:24SPEAKER_00: if you guys didn't see that shit, which we didn't get to today.
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- 1:23:47SPEAKER_01: I'm on a PC.
- 1:23:47SPEAKER_00: I don't do hearts.
- 1:23:48SPEAKER_00: I can't do animation.
- 1:23:50SPEAKER_02: We gotta work on you then, sir.
- 1:23:56SPEAKER_00: Happy 9-11 tomorrow.
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- 1:24:08SPEAKER_00: who sacrificed themselves 25 years ago.
- 1:24:11SPEAKER_01: And remind people that Donald Trump did nothing but try and steal from
- 1:24:15SPEAKER_01: the first responders and the people of New York.
- 1:24:19SPEAKER_01: And is making up bullshit stories
- 1:24:21SPEAKER_02: about how he got carried away
- 1:24:22SPEAKER_02: by two big firefighters because he loves
- 1:24:24SPEAKER_01: telling stories
- 1:24:25SPEAKER_01: about big burly men carrying him off into the sunset.
- 1:24:28SPEAKER_02: Interesting coincidences there.
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