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  Speaker 1: Jesus is the gold reform. Tonight one nation Ambush's new
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  Speaker 1: Nationals leader Matt Canavan about to be Joyce, is here
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  Speaker 1: to teach the lesson was that Tonight the deranged Green
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  Speaker 1: say they're glad six Iranian soccer women are now protected
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  Speaker 1: in Australia. The guess who the Greens say threatened them
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  Speaker 1: in Iran. It's a hint, those Israelis, Those Israelis. And
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  Speaker 1: more drama at the Asia World Cup. Fans kicked out
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  Speaker 1: after cheering for Taiwan, which offends communist China. Whose country
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  Speaker 1: is this actually? And much more. But first, the war
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  Speaker 1: in Iran has suddenly become a crisis, and not just
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  Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. It has become a crisis right here.
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  Speaker 1: Iran's cut off shipping through the narrow strait of Homers,
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  Speaker 1: stopping twenty percent of the world's oil exports. Now, as
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  Speaker 1: you can see from this tracker of shipping movements from
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  Speaker 1: just before the water now that blockade has really worked.
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  Speaker 1: It is also triggered panic buying at service stations here,
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  Speaker 1: some outlets even running out of petrol. Now the government
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  Speaker 1: keeps telling us, well, that's just panic buying, right, just
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  Speaker 1: calm it supplies from overseas keep arriving, no need to panic,
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  Speaker 1: but suddenly something has changed. This morning, Resources Minister Madeline
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  Speaker 1: King refused twice on the ABC to guarantee Australia wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: in fact run out of petrol.
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  Speaker 2: Can the Federal government guarantee that Australia won't run out
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  Speaker 2: of fuel in this crisis?
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  Speaker 3: There's no doubt there are disruptions.
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  Speaker 4: So can I guarantee we won't run out of Look.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to predict that it won't get harder
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  Speaker 2: as this if this conflict goes along.
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  Speaker 1: The Prime Minister also twice refuse the guarantee our petrol
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  Speaker 1: would not run out on the ABC this morning, the
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  Speaker 1: Minister for Resources twice refuse to guarantee that Australia won't
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  Speaker 1: run out of fuel as a.
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  Speaker 4: Result of the ongoing Iran war.
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister was the Minister for Resources correct in refusing
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  Speaker 1: this guarantee.
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  Speaker 5: We continue to see ships arrive carrying fuel in the
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  Speaker 5: quantities and frequencies we expect. The longer the conflict in
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  Speaker 5: the Middle East goes on, obviously, the more significant impact
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  Speaker 5: will be on the global economy. On any regular day.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty percent of the world's oil moves through the Strait
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  Speaker 5: of Home moves and if that shipping route remains effectively closed,
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  Speaker 5: and that will have ongoing consequences for fuel prices, production
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  Speaker 5: supply chains, and of course an inflationary impact.
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  Speaker 6: Can the Prime Minister guarantee that Australia will not run
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  Speaker 6: out of fuel?
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  Speaker 5: We are prioritizing, prioritizing full security and supply.
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  Speaker 1: That's worrying, isn't it. And nor would Energy Minister Chris
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  Speaker 1: Bone guarantee we wouldn't run out of petrol. He said
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  Speaker 1: he'd scramp limits on high sulfur content in petrol for
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  Speaker 1: two months so that Queensland's Ample refinery could switch from
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  Speaker 1: exporting that dirty fuel to using it here, especially sending
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  Speaker 1: it to rural areas one hundred million liters a month
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  Speaker 1: for two months.
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  Speaker 7: I have asked for and received an assurance from AMPOLE
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  Speaker 7: that this extra supply will be prioritized called regional Australia
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  Speaker 7: and for the spot market to take pressure off those
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  Speaker 7: regional areas feeling such pressure.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good move, But see what a difference it
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  Speaker 1: would make to our fuel security if Australia had more
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  Speaker 1: refineries right here in Australia making petrol for Australians. But
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  Speaker 1: the problem remains, we don't have enough refineries anymore. We
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  Speaker 1: are vulnerable in this war in Iran has proved it.
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  Speaker 1: We might also consider, by the way, beefing up our
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  Speaker 1: military so that our Prime Minister doesn't have to resort
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  Speaker 1: to sounding so pathetic when issuing demands to Iran.
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  Speaker 5: Again, reiterate the Australian government's demand on Iran to cease
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  Speaker 5: all of these.
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  Speaker 1: Attacks, seize these attacks. Albanesi warns Iran, stop it, says you.
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  Speaker 1: And whose army says Iran? Well, the only army around
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  Speaker 1: that will it's certainly not ours. It's going to be
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  Speaker 1: the US army that can stop these attacks, with Israel's help,
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  Speaker 1: of course, and protect that shipping lane that Iran is
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  Speaker 1: cutting off to cause deliberately and economic crisis in the
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  Speaker 1: West so big that the US and Israel will be forced.
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  Speaker 1: Hopes Iran to stop their war early. But Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: and have so far failed in this key task. As
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  Speaker 1: I said on Tuesday, there is a military war, and
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  Speaker 1: the US in Israel are doing brilliantly there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: knocking out Iran's military and terrorist assets and its leadership
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  Speaker 1: that bit, yes, but there's also an economic war, and
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  Speaker 1: so far the US is losing that as he ran
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  Speaker 1: chokes off that straight over moos and we here are
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  Speaker 1: hurting Iran today actually added to that pressure on Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump by hitting two oil tankers in Buzzra in Iraq
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  Speaker 1: near the end of the Persian Gulf, killing one sailor.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday they hit three more ships, a freighter and two
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  Speaker 1: bulk carriers near the straight of a Moose, at least
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  Speaker 1: one by using boat drones loaded with explosives. Now three
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  Speaker 1: sailors from this starre ship are missing, believe trapped still
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  Speaker 1: in the engine room. Now all this is a huge
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  Speaker 1: embarrassment for Trump if his embarrassed, that is, Trump yesterday
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  Speaker 1: had falsely claimed the strait of the muss was actually
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  Speaker 1: safe and toll ship owners to use it.
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  Speaker 8: Are you talking with CEOs of various oil companies encouraging
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  Speaker 8: them to use this straight up?
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  Speaker 1: Or right? They should? I think they should? I think
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  Speaker 1: they should use this.
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  Speaker 4: On you.
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  Speaker 1: Look, we took out just about all of their mind
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  Speaker 1: shifts and one night, even this morning, Donald Trump was
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  Speaker 1: still boasting that it cleared the way for the tankers
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  Speaker 1: to go sailing again. By blowing up. He said, sixteen
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  Speaker 1: Iranian boats the day before that could sew mines in
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  Speaker 1: the Strait Straits.
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  Speaker 8: Are in great shape. We've knocked out all of their boats.
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  Speaker 1: They have some missiles, but not very many.
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  Speaker 8: I think we're in very good We're in very good shape.
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  Speaker 1: But clearly Trump and his military did not plan against
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  Speaker 1: the Irun stopping the tankers. They did not plan to
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  Speaker 1: escort tankers through that straight and that is clear from
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  Speaker 1: the briefing this week by the Chairman of the US
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  Speaker 1: Joint Chiefs of Staff.
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  Speaker 3: If tasked to escort, you know, we'll look at the
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  Speaker 3: range of options to set the military conditions to be
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  Speaker 3: able to do that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll look at the range of options we haven't looked
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  Speaker 1: at yet. In fact, the US Navy has not escorted
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  Speaker 1: even one ship through that gulf because even its naval
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  Speaker 1: ships are too busy or they aren't safe there. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Lack of reported France is sending France has come to
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  Speaker 1: the rest of you can you believe it, There is
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  Speaker 1: sending eight frigates, two helicopter carriers, and an aircraft carrier
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  Speaker 1: to help. But if the US doesn't get that all
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  Speaker 1: flowing in a week or two it will have to
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  Speaker 1: end this war, probably sooner than it or Israel wants,
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  Speaker 1: and what's left of his runs regime will survive to
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  Speaker 1: spread terror again. I spoke a short while ago to
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: a man whose YouTube channel and X feet are probably
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  Speaker 1: the best way to check what's going on in the Gulf.
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  Speaker 1: Al miss Albaya, Doctor sal Mursigliano is an academic, a
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  Speaker 1: maritime historian, and a host of What's going On with
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  Speaker 1: Shipping That's what it's called What's going On with Shipping
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube. I spoke to him a short while ago.
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  Speaker 1: Sale mccogliano, thank you so much for coming on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Did the US make a mistake in not protecting shipping
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  Speaker 1: in the Gulf?
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  Speaker 8: I think the US should have considered that as a
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  Speaker 8: major factor. I mean, we had been planning for years
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  Speaker 8: and years for the potential shutdown of the Persian Gulf,
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  Speaker 8: and obviously a US and joint Israeli strike on Iran
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  Speaker 8: would put shipping at risk. And it does appear that
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  Speaker 8: the US really was not prepared for the level of
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  Speaker 8: attacks and the really the consternation that was caused by
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  Speaker 8: this all of a sudden attack. We saw insurance rates
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  Speaker 8: locked cup and we saw ships hold in place, and
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  Speaker 8: now we're experiencing a series of attacks all the way
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  Speaker 8: from Kuwait and Iraq, all the way into the Straits
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  Speaker 8: of Hormuz.
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  Speaker 1: Be can those ships actually be protected militarily? I was
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  Speaker 1: intrigued by the fact that not one American warship has
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  Speaker 1: protected the has escorted the ships to and fro, because
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  Speaker 1: it's such an important thing getting the old flowing again.
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  Speaker 1: And it seems to me that the US is saying
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  Speaker 1: that those ships themselves, even the military ones, the Navy ones,
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  Speaker 1: they're not safe from whatever it is that he Run
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  Speaker 1: is throwing at them.
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  Speaker 8: Well, unfortunately, the US Navy has kind of geared itself
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  Speaker 8: into a power of projection role. It really deals with
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  Speaker 8: its warships being able to project power from aircraft carriers
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  Speaker 8: via aircraft and its destroyers via missiles ashore. It really
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  Speaker 8: lacks the escort vessels the ability to really get in
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  Speaker 8: and do some close in weapons system fighting. To design
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  Speaker 8: several ships to do that, we'll talk combat ships and frigates,
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  Speaker 8: but those programs really didn't come to fruition. And so
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  Speaker 8: what the US finds itself with is is twenty percent
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  Speaker 8: of global trade basically locked up inside the Persian Gulf
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  Speaker 8: and without the ability to secure the straits of horror
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  Speaker 8: moves and ensure the safety of vessels. We're seeing the
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  Speaker 8: impacts globally on the shocks to the marketplace.
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  Speaker 1: Well even here, Hell, I've got to tell you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: panic buying of petrol and all that, and petrol prices rising,
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  Speaker 1: fears of inflation even in far off Australia. Now, Iran has,
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  Speaker 1: according to the latest intelligence laid only ten minds so far.
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  Speaker 1: We heard Donald Trump threaten it with death and destruction
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  Speaker 1: if it did anymore, and then blow all these mind
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  Speaker 1: these ships that could lay mines out of the water
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  Speaker 1: if it does, if I run does go ahead, and
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  Speaker 1: I understand that it's scared of doing too much because
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  Speaker 1: it'll hurt itself. How big a problem would those minds be.
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  Speaker 8: Well, you need exactly zero mines to create a minefield.
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  Speaker 8: It's just the threat of minds that really creates the problem.
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  Speaker 8: And obviously Iran it's a two edged sword with a minefield,
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  Speaker 8: because it would effectively cut them off too from the
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  Speaker 8: strait of horror moves. But it does create problems. Modern
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  Speaker 8: minds are very difficult to detect. It's not like the
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  Speaker 8: old fashioned kind of big, huge round ball with the
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  Speaker 8: horns on it. There's some very sophisticated bottom mines, acoustic
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  Speaker 8: magnetic minds. And obviously if the Iranians take this choice,
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  Speaker 8: and again they have different methods to deploy these weapons.
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  Speaker 8: They could drop them by aircraft, drop them by missiles,
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  Speaker 8: they can come out in small boats, fishing vessels. It's
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  Speaker 8: really an asymmetric threat. The threat that's really is materialized
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  Speaker 8: right now that we're seeing are these small unmanned surface
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  Speaker 8: vessels very similar to what we saw the Ukrainians use
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  Speaker 8: against Russia and the Huthi use against shipping down in
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  Speaker 8: the Red Sea. These kind of remote controlled of you know,
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  Speaker 8: high speed power bae botes with a lot of explosives
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  Speaker 8: packed into them are basically mobile mines on the surface.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it's interesting the Huties have been very quiet
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  Speaker 1: here because they also control access to the well can
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  Speaker 1: afit access to the Red Sea, which is the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the Saudi Peninsula. When do you expect the
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  Speaker 1: tankers to sail? Again? I noticed that France is sending
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  Speaker 1: eight frigates aircraft carrier to helicopter carriers to help. But
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  Speaker 1: do you expect the tankers to sail anytime soon.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I was envisioning that the United States would begin
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  Speaker 8: to shift from its offensive operations into this more defensive operation,
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  Speaker 8: get into the Gulf and start assisting with it. But
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  Speaker 8: right now, according to all the reports, ship owners met
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  Speaker 8: with senior Navy officials, and the Navy is in not
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  Speaker 8: a position right now to do that. General Kin, chairman
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  Speaker 8: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had a briefing yesterday
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  Speaker 8: where he basically says that the military really hasn't even
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  Speaker 8: taken that mission into planning yet. So that indicates to
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  Speaker 8: me that we may not see ships moving now. We
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  Speaker 8: had some indications of ships beginning to move, but again,
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  Speaker 8: the most recent attacks may put off any ship from
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  Speaker 8: wanting to move. However, the most recent attacks, at least
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  Speaker 8: two tankers hit off the coast of a rock, may
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  Speaker 8: convince shippers listen, it's not safe in the gulf. It's
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  Speaker 8: better to take your chances and try to run out
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  Speaker 8: of the gulf. But that shift down into the Red Sea.
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  Speaker 8: What we're seeing is a lot of tankers heading down
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  Speaker 8: into the Red Sea because of that Saudi Arabian pipeline
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  Speaker 8: that runs from the Persian Gulf over to Yanbu on
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  Speaker 8: the Red Sea.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I know that pipeline has only got so much capacity,
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  Speaker 1: but it is interesting and it is an alternative. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't quite help some of the countries on the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the Persian Gulf, but this will give some respite,
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  Speaker 1: I think. But more needs to be done. Cogliano, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much indeed for your time.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, thank you for having.
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  Speaker 1: Me after the break Barnaby Joyce, he did enjoy the
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  Speaker 1: trap that One Nation set today for a new Nationals leader,
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  Speaker 1: Matt Canavan. One Nation today ambushed Matt Canavan, the brand
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  Speaker 1: new leader of the National Party. Now, I've said for
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  Speaker 1: years that Canavan should be leader who's got talent. But
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  Speaker 1: I also warned last night it would be hard for
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  Speaker 1: Canavan to go from speaking as much as a backbencher
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  Speaker 1: to now being a leader who must be a team
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  Speaker 1: player with the Liberals in a coalition. As a backbencher,
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  Speaker 1: Canavan was perfectly free to attack the net zero manners
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  Speaker 1: and the Paris Agreement that Australia signed, an agreement that
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  Speaker 1: obliges US as slash emissions at heaven knows what costs. Now,
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  Speaker 1: how often did Canavan tell me and tell you that
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  Speaker 1: this agreement, this Paris Agreement, which the Liberals still back,
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  Speaker 1: had to be scrapped.
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  Speaker 6: It is completely and utterly baseless. Why would we stay
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  Speaker 6: in this agreement when China, India and Indonesia ignoring it,
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  Speaker 6: now the United States as well. It makes absolutely no sense.
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  Speaker 6: It is going to do nothing for the environment if
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  Speaker 6: we met at zero targets, which is unlikely anyway. It's
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  Speaker 6: just going to cost Australian people more in their power prices,
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  Speaker 6: and is going to continue the de industrialization of our nation.
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  Speaker 1: Well said. But today, less than twenty four hours into
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Canavan's leadership, One Nation put up this motion in the
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  Speaker 1: Senate to do exactly what Canavan called for, to scrap
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  Speaker 1: the Paris Agreement. But the Nationals under Matt Canavan abstained
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  Speaker 1: didn't show up to vote. The Liberals, on the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: they did show up and voted to keep the Paris Agreement,
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  Speaker 1: So only Paulin Hansen and her other One Nation senators
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  Speaker 1: voted for what Matt Canavan, as a backbencher, had called for.
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  Speaker 1: Now I get it. Canavan must now be your team player,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: and he admittes as much today in attacking One Nation's
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  Speaker 1: Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy Prime minister, the man who
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: used to work for when Joyce is with the Nationals.
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  Speaker 6: I remember when Barnaby was running against Tony Windsor and
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  Speaker 6: he said, well, you can't be with those Independence. You
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: can't believe with small parties because they're in effect in
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  Speaker 6: the grandstand watching the game, applauding it. They're not down
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  Speaker 6: on the football paddock moving the ball forward for your team.
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  Speaker 6: He understood a decade ago. You've got to work with
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  Speaker 6: people sometimes you disagree with.
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  Speaker 1: But today is a brutal reminder. The Nationals can change
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  Speaker 1: their leader, but they must all change their approach, and
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  Speaker 1: the Liberals as well. Otherwise it's a case of better salesman,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: same dud product. Joining me is myst Thursday regular commentator,
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  Speaker 1: One Nation MP Barnaby Joyce. Barnaby Joyce, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: your time. Matt Canavan used to be your chief of
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  Speaker 1: staff and your friend. Now is really going for you personally?
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  Speaker 1: It seems accusing you of hypocrisy for telling is to
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  Speaker 1: pick a party that can actually do something, not independence
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  Speaker 1: and miners and all that. He said, that's what you
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  Speaker 1: used to say of independence, Tony Winsor. What do you
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  Speaker 1: make of that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, Matt is a friend who will remain a friend.
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  Speaker 3: But I expect Matt to go onto the balls of
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  Speaker 3: his toes and play the very best game he possibly can,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: and I will too. I mean that is that is
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  Speaker 3: how the political debate should be. And I think Curtain
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: and Menzies would have probably said the same thing back
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  Speaker 3: in their day. But let's go through that. I don't
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: believe that they say that one nation can't change anything. Well,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I have to say, I think Matt owes me a
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: box of chocolates because we changed the leader of the
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: National Party and he got the job. So one box
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  Speaker 3: of chocolates for that, and the next box of chocolates
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  Speaker 3: is for is for the next box of chocolates for
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  Speaker 3: getting out of net zero. They are still in Pariss.
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  Speaker 3: That's a terrible shame. But I need another box of
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: chocolates for that, and I think, mister Taylor, I think
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  Speaker 3: you should send me along half a box of chocolates
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  Speaker 3: as well. I mean, we're changing things. They're not changing us,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: we're changing them. And you know why, it's not the
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  Speaker 3: ego of it. It's because that policy structure works better.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, the counter offensive against the progressive left is
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: led by one nation and we're seeing it in unfortunate
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: live form now with a fuel crisis. That's the climate change,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: that's the fruits of the climate policy. You know, climate change,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: got change the climate, never change the climate. We've certainly
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: changed our fuel security and got ourselves down to two refineries,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: which is an obscenity, and now we're suffering the sins
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: of that. And get rid of the Climate Change Department.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Get rid of mister Bowen, get rid of the Climate
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  Speaker 3: Change Department. Think about Australia.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get onto fuel security in a moment. But the
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  Speaker 1: vote today in the Senate on withdrawing from the Paris Agreement,
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  Speaker 1: the vote was lost. That motion was lost. Only one
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: nation voted for it. What did the lineup of the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: votes there tell you, particularly the absence of the Nationals.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is the dilemma. Unfortunately, Matt's going to have.
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  Speaker 3: As I've said before, and I'll say it again so often,
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  Speaker 3: Matt will agree with me. I will agree with Matt.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Matt will agree with Pauline. Pauline will agree with Matt.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Matt will agree with the One Nation, and the One
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  Speaker 3: Nation members will agree with Matt. It's just that the
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: coalition won't agree with Matt and I think you saw
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  Speaker 3: today that the Liberal Party voted to keep the Paris Agreement.
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  Speaker 3: That is that is net zero with a funny accent.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: That's net zero with a Craissont that's now zero with
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the arc three mph in the background. You know, complent
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: is what I would be saying about that. For me, Dub,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: what we have is the fact that I don't understand.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: But it's fantastic how you could not agree with net zero,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: but you do agree with the Paris Agreement, which is
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: about attaining net zero. Job for INSPECTACLEU serve on that one.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: But fuel security the government repeatedly refusing today to guarantee
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that we won't run out of petrol. Well is not likely.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a bit surprised. I said, it's just
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a supply issue, not a supply issues that demanded to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: panic buying. But they're not guaranteeing it. What does that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: tell you?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, this is serious. And jerk myself
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: back into seriousness on this one. The country areas are
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: running out of petrol, especially diesel, and we have you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I'll give you once Anario very quickly at the gun
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: at oss alliards other day of six thy five hundred cattle,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: You've got one B double carries about ninety head of cattle,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: so that would mean you need about seventy two B doubles.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Seventy two B doubles. One B double is about one
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: eight hundred liters of diesel. And the trouble is and
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Ghanada I had no diesel. So that's disastrous. And of
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: course what happens is they can't get Bold diesel. The
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: trucks drive along and find service stations and fill up
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: from them. Guess what happens next? Field stations run out
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: of fuel and then of people driving up from Sydney
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: go to the field station no fuel. This is a
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: crisis because that's the canary in the coal mine, what's
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: happening out there. If it continues on, it'll go to
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: the semis that deliver food to the shops. And I
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: don't want that to happen. And before that happens, we've
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: got to have a plan. Now I've never thought i'd
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: say this, so wait for it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Take a big breath.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I command Minister Bowen for his decision today to change
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: the solfur content rules on the refinery in Queensland, because
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: that allows more product onto the market and I hear
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: is delivering it to the independence. That is a good decision.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: I will always commend good decisions when they are made.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: That is the start of our plan. We now need
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: the guts of the plan because if we don't have
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: it and this what's happening in the Middle East continues on,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: we are in real strife. And we've done it to
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: ourselves because in our insanity to change the weather, we
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: broke our fuel security and we exacerbate We're always going
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: to have a problem, but we've massively exacerbated it because
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: we don't have the refining capacity and we haven't opened
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: up the new oil fields which would be present in
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: places such as the golf Carpenteria. It's just that we've
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: got environmental laws that say and not allowed to drill there.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: You go further out into bas straight but they haven't
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: done that. You go into the Great Australian buy it,
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: but you know it's pretty deep, you know, but you
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: know the possibility is there. But we haven't done any
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: of this because we've wrapped ourselves up with an environmental
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: tape within Australia and we've closed down our fining capacity
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: because of carbon dioxide.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I've got to say I didn't expect to say
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: this either, but I do also congratulate Chris Bond for
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: letting the sale here of high sulfur petrol that meant
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: for export for a couple of months, I think, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: directing it to the country side. I think that's excellent move.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: But the longer term answer, I got to say, you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you were in the position that Matt Canavan finds himself
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: in now, particularly as the leader of the Nationals in government,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: where you know, you had to go along with stupid
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: ideas like getting rid of of oil or some of
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: our oil refineries. You had to go along with the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: net zero stuff. Your government's also didn't do all the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: approvals that we should have got. What is the answer now, though,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, we only store one month of petrol here,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: storing three months like we should according to you know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: the international body would cost US twenty billion dollars as
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the government building more refineries will cost US billions.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: What's your answer, Well, the look what this is costing us. Now,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: look what the lack of security is costing us. The
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Climate Change Department, the loss of your aluminium sector, what's
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: that costing you? You steel industry on it set needs.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: What's that costing you? The fact that we have an
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: absolute fuel crisis and regional areas that's put it a
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: real threat to the commerce not only regional areas but
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: of Australia. What's that costing you? Down the upside on this,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: I heard today that the renewables, the intermintent power lobby,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: the interiminute power are rubbish that they're building out in
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: regional areas, they run out of fuel in areas they're
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: going up to people asking for feel of course and
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: regional areas theyre saying, get stuffed. You know, you're you're
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: half the problem of this, and you know this is
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: this is what you know? What's it going to cost
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: us when we don't we don't have a year rear industry.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: We can't get security of supply there. What's it costing
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: us that we don't have a plastics industry. What's it
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: costing us that some nd industry is on it sneeze.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: What it's costing us that we've lost our you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: we've lost our heavy glass. What's it costing us? We'll
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: record insolvencies in small business from coffee shops to brick Kiln, saying, look,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: we it's just not tenable with the energy prices that
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: we pay in Australia. What is that costing us? Andrew
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: and I'll find you the savings, as you always should.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Get rid of the Climate Change and Energy Department and
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: book the savings, get rid of the capacity investment schemes
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: and book the savings. Streamline the NDS and book the savings,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: and use those savings to build up the industrial base
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: of this nation, which is so essential if you want
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: to prevail in a very very uncertain world.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Danneby Jewyce, thank you so much for your time.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: What it's pleasure.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: After the break, the wicked Greens claimed the Uranian women
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: we gave protection to this week, we're in danger in
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: your own from Americans and Israelis, believe it or not.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Dennis Richardson, former Head of Asia, former Secretary Defense Department,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: former almost everything in the officialdom and everything. He shot
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the Abaneze government today by quitting its Royal Commission into
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Anti Semitism. Now, his job there was to check whether
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: or how our security agencies failed to stop the Bondo messacre.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: But he says the Royal Commission was not like the
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Independent Inquiry had actually signed up for before the government
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: then rolled it into this Royal Commission under Justice Virginia Bell.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: It was too legalistic now, not his speed, not his game.
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: I felt it had reached a point where I was
• 26:51
  Speaker 9: adding relatively little value and it was I wasn't getting.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: A lot of satisfaction out of her.
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: Quite frankly, enjoy a challenge, right, if you enjoy tough jobs, right,
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: It's very difficult to go back to what is essentially
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: a research officer.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Richardson swears that the Royal Commission will be just as
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: good without him, as a real team player like that.
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: I have no doubt that the Royal Commission under Virginia
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: Bill is going to do an excellent job. I have
• 27:28
  Speaker 9: no doubt about that at all. The community can have
• 27:31
  Speaker 9: absolute confidence that the Royal Commission will get to the
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: bottom of the questions that the community is asking. This
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: is no fault of the government, none whatsoever. This is
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: simply the way a Royal Commission works.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, so nothing to see here, a great Royal Commission,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: no news. I'm just not needed a fifth wheel, he said,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: surplus to requirements, except, of course, that is exactly, not
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: how the Prime Minister sold into us again and again
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: last December.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: I don't think anyone can argue that there is anyone
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: in this nation who is more qualified to oversee a
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: review of our national security agencies and network and inter
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: relationship between Comwalth and state government than Dennis Richardson. This
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: is the most experienced person who can have a look quickly, sharply,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: go through with the experience that he has to determine
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: any further actions that are required by the comwort government.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Wow. From indispensable, the best person in the country in
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: December to an needed today three months later. How does
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that work? Something does not add up.
• 28:56
  Speaker 10: This is a disaster for the credibility of the Royal
• 29:00
  Speaker 10: Commissions and ultimately its findings and recommendations. A massive shadow
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: has been cast over the Royal Commission. I think the
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: Prime Minister needs to step in today and fix this.
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: He needs to call Dennis Richardson and ask him to
• 29:13
  Speaker 10: continue to serve the Royal Commission.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Well that's not going to happen, but anyway, joining me
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a scone New's host Jameson person and communications consultant Chris
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: McSweeney has worked for coalitionion prime ministers and premiers. I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: don't really get what's going on here, James, what do
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: you make of this? Dennis Richardson suggesting this resignation is
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: no big deal? Is he right?
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: Well, it's hard to understand how by the Prime Minister's
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: own admission, as we just heard, the most qualified, the
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: most experienced person to get to the bottom of intelligence
• 29:51
  Speaker 11: failures and law enforcement failures that led to the greatest
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: terror attack in this country is superfluous to requirements. It
• 29:59
  Speaker 11: looks like he been sidelined or worse, pushed out. Now
• 30:02
  Speaker 11: that's how it appears, and appearances matter in relation to
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: this Royal Commission. It appears this Royal Commission is going
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: exactly where the Prime Minister wants it to go, which
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: is nowhere. Don't forget the Prime Minister didn't want a
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: Royal commission. When he belatedly called a Royal commission, he
• 30:19
  Speaker 11: expanded the inquiry to include social cohesion rather than the
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: main issue, which is anti Semitism. Given the chance to
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: make Dennis Richardson a co commissioner, he declined to do that.
• 30:31
  Speaker 11: And now we have the situation where Dennis Richardson says
• 30:34
  Speaker 11: for five and a half thousand dollars a day. I
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: can't in good conscience continue to receive that because for
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: whatever reason, I'm not able to fulfill my ability in
• 30:45
  Speaker 11: regards to this task. It would seem to be the
• 30:47
  Speaker 11: only person we can have confidence in integrity in this
• 30:51
  Speaker 11: situation right now is Dennis Richardson.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Christ McSweeney. You've been rattling around Prime mysterial officers, et cetera,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: et cetera, giving advice. You might know be able to
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: interpret some of what's going on here, How do you explain,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and mister indispensable in December, mister superflus in March.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Look, this was the interim review that the Prime Minister
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: thought would get the opposition off his back and get
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: most of Australia off his back in terms of not
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: having to have a Royal commission, as James's just mentioned
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: he didn't want one. He offered Australia and the Parliament
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the Richardson Review into intelligence failures if any, through pre
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: determining the circumstances around what may have led to Bondai
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: and now the best public servant in the country, the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: former ambassador to the United States, someone highly respected across
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: both aisles of politics has bowed out of the process,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: and I don't think that gives significant confidence to the outcome.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: They say the report is nearly done and due next month.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Let's see how much of that report Dennis Richardson has
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: contributed to and how much of it is about security
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: and intelligence failures or assessment or is it about as
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: you say, social cohesion and other issues that the government
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: wanted broadened into the terms.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. It's strange to quit with only
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: what about a month or two or so to go
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: before the interim report, where it could have been helping
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: right up to dot to quit now seems to be
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: almost like washing his hands of it. To the depravity
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: of the Greens, James, I mean there ever, since you
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: know the slaughter Bahamas of twelve hundred Israelis, they have
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: been depraved, I think, really is the word. We saw
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: this week six members of the Iranian team at the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: women's Asian World Cup that's been played here flee their
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: minders they're Iranian minders, and ask for political asylum. Now,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the women defected, as we all know, after Iranian state
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: TV threatened them with death for not singing the national anthem.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: In protest. But the Greens today so predictably found a
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: way to blame the Americans, and as so often, those
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Israelis have listened.
• 33:29
  Speaker 12: The brave Iranian women footballers who have been in this
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: country and face real potential persecution if they were to
• 33:37
  Speaker 12: not just persecution from their own regime, but if they're
• 33:40
  Speaker 12: sent back to Iran, they could literally be sent back
• 33:42
  Speaker 12: to Iran and they could be killed by US bombs
• 33:45
  Speaker 12: or Israeli bombs.
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: James McPherson, forgive me for laughing, Andrew, but I mean,
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: what can you do but laugh when you listen to
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: the Greens make ridiculous statements like that they were threatened,
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: as you said, on Iranian state television for not singing
• 34:02
  Speaker 11: the national song. Now, if they go back to Iran,
• 34:06
  Speaker 11: yes they're going back to a war zone, but it's
• 34:08
  Speaker 11: a war zone where you've got the US and Israel
• 34:11
  Speaker 11: trying to do all they can to free the Iranian
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: people from a tyrannical regime, which most of the Iranian
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: people seem to be want to.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Be free from.
• 34:21
  Speaker 11: So, as I said, forgive me for laughing, but I
• 34:24
  Speaker 11: think laughter is the proper response to pretty much everything
• 34:27
  Speaker 11: the Greens say these days, Christie.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I mean unless these women plan to be standing on
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: military headquarters or next to a tank or laying mines
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: in the canal at the back of their house or something,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: They're not going to be a target. This is really obscene,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: isn't it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: It's obscene comments from the Grange. They are going further
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: and further and further to keep their base and their bases.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: People under the age of thirty five who want to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: protest in the streets for the sovereignty of Iran not
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: applying critical thought of what the regime does to the
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: actual people of Iran who are dancing in the streets
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: at the death of the Aotola in America's intervention. And
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I just want to make.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: A point as well.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: The football president of Iran is a former IRDG commander
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: and in the worky murky political world of FIFA. He
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: is also the vice president of the Asian Football Confederation
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: and he has said the Australian police have bullied these
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: women under orders by the Prime Minister and how dare
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: they treat women who are more vulnerable and don't have
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: exposure to political issues in this bullying way. That is
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: the IRDG, and that is what people are marching the
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: streets for the sovereignty of in this country. I hope
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: people apply more critical thought to their comments.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Well that detail you just said, it might add a
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: little explanation of context too. The other political drama the
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Asia Cup, fans of the Taiwanese Team James have been
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: kicked out after cheering for Taiwan Now communists China insists
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Taiwan is not a country, mustn't be referred to as Taiwan,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: must in this competition be called Chinese Taipei instead and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: not stuff like what the fans were cheering out here.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Here they are Hey, hey, team Taiwan, they were yelling.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Fans were even banned from having Taiwanese flags and hats.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Sky's host, the Carolyn Markers, she talked to one of
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: those fans, Grace who he she is.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I just feel, you know, devastated.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Why can't we bring all flag into the stadium and
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: we are in Australia.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: This is Australia, well as much of it as China
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: will let us have. Apparently, Caroline's going to have the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: full story tonight at eleven B in which he feels
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: in for Rita but Jans should fans of Taiwan be
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: banned in Australia from calling Taiwan Taiwan or flying a
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: flag of Taiwan or a shirt that says Taiwan because
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: China might get upset. Of course they should not be.
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: To the best of my knowledge, Jijingping does not yet
• 37:20
  Speaker 11: control how we behave in this country. They were kicked
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: out of the stadium because the organizers said political chants
• 37:27
  Speaker 11: were not permitted. Well, what is the name Chinese Taipei
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: for the Taiwanese team but a political name? So it's
• 37:34
  Speaker 11: not the crowd who are politicizing this football game, it's
• 37:38
  Speaker 11: the organizers from the outset who have politicized this. Now,
• 37:42
  Speaker 11: if they're going to insist as a football organization that
• 37:44
  Speaker 11: the Taiwanese team will be called Chinese Taipei, whatever, but
• 37:49
  Speaker 11: that doesn't give them the right to decide what people
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: in the grandstand can or cannot say. This is outrageous
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: and that our government has nothing to say about it
• 37:58
  Speaker 11: is even more offensive.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Chris McSweeney, who would have thought that this football match,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: this competition in Australia would be this political where tyrannies
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: seem to be running a mark.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Well, continuing on my previous point. I mean, FIFA has
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of form in accepting dictatorial politics of certain
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: countries and leaders that they deal with. And I'm very
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: happy to say that this fans holding their own country's
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: flag is not offensive to anybody. I don't think it's
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: offensive to spectators. I don't think it's offensive to the players.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: The only organization that would be offended is the government
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: of China. It's wonderful that fans turn out and watch
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: their national team, their national women's team and want to
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: support them with their flag. This is Australia. You can
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: waive your Cory's flag.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Karen Marcus will have more, Like I said at eleven
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: PM tonight when she hosts fills in for Rida Panney
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: James McPherson Christmas three, he thank you very much to
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: you both. Well. After the break the Epstein scandal, new
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Docklan documents, boy do they embarrass Britain's Prime minister. Now
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: to the latest disturbing development in the Epstein scandal. I mean,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: this is just an extraordinary scandal that all these powerful
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: people seemingly oblivious to the evil of pedophilia. I mean
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: it's just astonishing. So the rules don't apply to them.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Keir Starmer, Britain's Prime Minister, used to be a human
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: rights lawyer. He used to head the country's Crown Prosecution Service,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: putting away crooks and devians. Yet this very same man
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: with that background turns out now to ignored warnings from
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: his own advisor against appointing his mate, Lord Peter Mandelsson
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: as Britain's ambassador to the United States because of Mandersson's
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: ties to the pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, now the head
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: of Britain's Civil service. Even sent Starmer in twenty twenty
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: four a due diligence report warning that Manisson was particularly
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: close to Epstein, and their relationship continued well after Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was convicted of procuring an underage girl in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and eight for sex. As Starmer was also told that
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  Speaker 1: Manderson reportedly stayed in Epstein's house when Epstein was in
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  Speaker 1: jail in two thousand and nine, and there was a
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  Speaker 1: general reputational risk over Manderson's relationship with this pedophile. Yet
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  Speaker 1: Starmer still hired Mandilsshon and then of course had to
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  Speaker 1: fire him when Manisson was exposed. Not a year later,
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  Speaker 1: Starmer got an Underlin to go to Parliament to say
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  Speaker 1: again how somehow he was duped.
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  Speaker 13: The Prime Minister has taken responsibility for Peter Mandlsson's appointment
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  Speaker 13: as ambassador to the United States. He has acknowledged it
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  Speaker 13: was a mistake and has apologized, not least for believing
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  Speaker 13: Peter Mandelson's lives. Whilst the documents point to public reports
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  Speaker 13: of an ongoing relationship between Peter Manderson and Jeffrey Epstein,
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  Speaker 13: the advice did not expose the depth and extent of
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  Speaker 13: their relationship, which only became apparent after the release of
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  Speaker 13: further files by Bloomberg and then the United States Department
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  Speaker 13: for Justice.
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  Speaker 1: Now joining me from the Maldads, and we've got to say,
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  Speaker 1: this is a this is a historic moment. This is
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  Speaker 1: my first liver across to them all, dads. Is our
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  Speaker 1: Thursday regular Patrick Christie's Star presentder on Britain's gb News. Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: I understand why you wouldn't want to be in London
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  Speaker 1: if it could be somewhere Sammy and them all dads,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing there?
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, well, well exactly, I mean, I suppose the joke
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  Speaker 14: is that I've left one Muslim country.
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  Speaker 4: And come to another. But yeah, no, we are. We
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  Speaker 4: are on holiday here.
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  Speaker 14: But look you you've you've outlined perfectly there the massive
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  Speaker 14: scandal that's in boiling our prime minister. Our prime minister
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  Speaker 14: is the biggest lie that the world has ever seen.
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  Speaker 14: In my view, he can't lie straight in bed. If
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  Speaker 14: he told you that it was raining, you'd have to
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  Speaker 14: go outside and check for yourself. And I guarantee you
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  Speaker 14: when you got out there, it would be forty degrees
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  Speaker 14: bright sunshine, not a cloud in the sky. He's now
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  Speaker 14: lying about being lied to.
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  Speaker 4: Just let that thinking. He said that Peter Mandelssohn.
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  Speaker 14: A bloke called the Prince of Darkness, a man he
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  Speaker 14: looks like he sleeps hanging upside down in a cocoon,
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  Speaker 14: lied to him about being mates with Epstein and the
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  Speaker 14: true depth of that friendship. Well, now the Mandalson files
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  Speaker 14: really show that the PM knew about basically all of it.
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  Speaker 4: He was warned about it.
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  Speaker 14: He went against top advisor appointed him anyway. And then
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  Speaker 14: get this detail as well, Andrew when the Prime Minister said,
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  Speaker 14: when I found out about this, I sacked him. It
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  Speaker 14: turns out no, he didn't. They paid him off. Peter
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  Speaker 14: Mandelssohn wanted roughly one million Australia million dollars as compensation
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  Speaker 14: for being sad. We ended up giving him about one
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  Speaker 14: hundred and forty thousand, but part of that payoff was
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  Speaker 14: that he wouldn't talk about it publicly. And look, he
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  Speaker 14: wasn't sad, he didn't really lie to the Prime minister.
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  Speaker 14: The Prime Minister knowingly appointed the friend of the world's
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  Speaker 14: most notorious pedophile to the role of US ambassador.
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  Speaker 4: It's insect, it's.
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  Speaker 1: It's just extraorio. So he knew the guy Mandelssohn was
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  Speaker 1: close to a convicted pedophile, stayed in this convicted pedophile's house, right,
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  Speaker 1: and still appoint some ambassador of the United States. Why
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  Speaker 1: would he do that?
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  Speaker 14: Well, this is the thing, right, I mean, it's obviously
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  Speaker 14: a huge amount of leverage that Peter Mandelsson must have
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  Speaker 14: over this current government and the connections that there are
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  Speaker 14: between Peter Mandelsson New Labor which is now basically old
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  Speaker 14: Labour obviously because it was under Tony Blair in nineteen
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  Speaker 14: ninety seven. I I I really do think it raises
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  Speaker 14: serious sins, serious questions about the judgment of our Prime minister,
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  Speaker 14: but also whether or not is in some way compromise
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  Speaker 14: you know. I mean, Peter Mandelston has got the nickname
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  Speaker 14: the Prince of Darkness for a reason. He's been sat
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  Speaker 14: previously twice from government and now he was appointed again.
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  Speaker 14: It certainly exposes a blind spot to Peterphilio, which is
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  Speaker 14: exactly what what you were alluding to earlier on. You know,
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  Speaker 14: for most people, for you and I, having any kind
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  Speaker 14: of continued friendship with a convicted pedophile would probably be
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  Speaker 14: enough to disqualify you from getting any position really in life.
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  Speaker 4: But not for our prime minister. It's remarkable, It is
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  Speaker 4: so extraordinary.
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  Speaker 1: How's this issue biting in Britain? Because I would have thought,
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  Speaker 1: a of course it goes to the Prime Minister's credibility
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  Speaker 1: and all that and authority, all that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But the other thing is people must be people, particularly
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: locked out of the political class, head of the political system,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: to be thinking the whole system is ridded. It's rotten,
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  Speaker 1: it's disgusting, it's nothing like we're sold.
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  Speaker 14: The amount of cut through that this has had is
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  Speaker 14: very hard to explain other than to tell you that
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  Speaker 14: a few weeks ago they did an opinion poll and
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  Speaker 14: ninety five percent of the adult British public had heard
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  Speaker 14: of the Peter Mandelson scandal, and I only don't remember
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  Speaker 14: a story having that much cut for ever. I mean,
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  Speaker 14: it's truly remarkable, really to think that ninety five percent
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  Speaker 14: of the British public have at least told a polling
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  Speaker 14: company that they've heard about what's going on.
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  Speaker 4: That is absolutely extraordinary.
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  Speaker 14: But the problem for the Prime minister now is it's
• 45:31
  Speaker 14: lies upon lies upon lies upon lies. You know, he
• 45:33
  Speaker 14: said he wasn't going to raise taxes. He's raised taxes loads.
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  Speaker 14: He said he's sought the migrant crisis out. He's not
• 45:38
  Speaker 14: sorted the migrant crisis now. He said he bring your
• 45:40
  Speaker 14: energy bills down. He's not brought the energy bills down.
• 45:42
  Speaker 14: I mean the amount of U turns and the amount
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  Speaker 14: of deceit from a bloke who was described as mister forensic.
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  Speaker 14: This guy was mister morality. He's mister human rights lawyer.
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  Speaker 14: And what we are getting is scandal deceit, scandal deceit.
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  Speaker 14: And he's absolutely horrendous what's going on at the moment.
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  Speaker 14: But this is this is the kind of thing that
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  Speaker 14: I think if he was not a labor prime minister,
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  Speaker 14: if this was a conservative, I guarantee.
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  Speaker 4: You this would have brought them back.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine there appears to be different rules, can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine? Patrick? Yeah, look, you're so right, hey, Patrick.
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  Speaker 1: One of our mainstream conservative parties, the Nationalists, as a
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: new leader, Matt Canavan, I like him. I like him,
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  Speaker 1: is desperate to win back all the supporters who've deserted
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  Speaker 1: his party and his coalition partners and the Liberals deserted
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  Speaker 1: them for One Nation now. One Nation is our version
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: of Najer Faraja's Reform Party in Britain. And Canavan started
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  Speaker 1: his new job yesterday by calling One Nation divisive and
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: implying it was racist and all that. What is your advice,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: having seen how your Conservatives party has been trying similarly
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: to get its photos back from Reform, what should he
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  Speaker 1: do well?
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  Speaker 14: I think they should say sorry for everything they got
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  Speaker 14: wrong in the first place that led to voters turning away.
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  Speaker 14: The only way really out of this is some form
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  Speaker 14: of honesty and self reflection. The other thing is to
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  Speaker 14: definitely not start calling people who want to vote for
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  Speaker 14: a party. And I don't know everything about these two
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  Speaker 14: parties that you've mentioned here, but in the case of
• 47:13
  Speaker 14: the British context, of course, you know that are arguably
• 47:17
  Speaker 14: Reform is a more proper quotes unquote conservative party. They've
• 47:21
  Speaker 14: got more conservative views and our traditional Conservative Party didn't
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  Speaker 14: actually conserve anything when they were in government, did they.
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  Speaker 14: So the best thing to do is not to call
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  Speaker 14: anyone who wants to vote for that new party racist
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  Speaker 14: or divisive, because really they're probably already so fed up
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  Speaker 14: with you. That's just going to harden them and make them,
• 47:40
  Speaker 14: make them, you know, even more sure of their views.
• 47:42
  Speaker 14: But lucky, you've got to You've you've got to set
• 47:45
  Speaker 14: out a stall and stop pandering to any kind of
• 47:47
  Speaker 14: wokee brigade that there is out there, and stop pandering
• 47:49
  Speaker 14: to the whole. Diversity is our greatest strength side of things.
• 47:52
  Speaker 14: I think people are just sick of that now. We've
• 47:54
  Speaker 14: had more than enough of it. So and it doesn't
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  Speaker 14: win you any votes. It doesn't win you any votes.
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  Speaker 4: It's all. It just means off and they'll just eat
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  Speaker 4: you last.
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  Speaker 1: And just quickly. In the half a minute I got
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: left has worked for Kemmy beden Off, the Conservative leader.
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  Speaker 4: What's she doing well, she's actually climbing up in the polls.
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  Speaker 14: The poles in it in England are very interesting at
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  Speaker 14: the moment, we've got pretty much at the Reformer on top,
• 48:18
  Speaker 14: then it's the Conservatives, and then you've got the Green Party,
• 48:20
  Speaker 14: et cetera. But what Keny Baidenock is doing, and she's
• 48:23
  Speaker 14: just really improved at the dispatch box and she's starting
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  Speaker 14: to actually come out with more proper solid conservative policies
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  Speaker 14: like being in control of our own laws, borders and money,
• 48:32
  Speaker 14: which you know they did have fourteen years to do.
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  Speaker 14: But I suppose it's better late than never. But she
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  Speaker 14: is doing better now, she's got an easy target their
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  Speaker 14: opposite a now, Keir starm My calamity care.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Patrick. I'm very grateful you interrupted
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  Speaker 1: your holidays. Thank you so much. See you next week,
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  Speaker 1: coming up next, Sherry Maxson, good night,