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The Lost Civilization of Stonehenge: Elongated Skulls, Ley Lines & Earth Energies with Maria Wheatley · Awakening with Natalie Namaste

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  SPEAKER_00: Namaste beautiful beings.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, we have a very special guest today, Maria, who is going to take us into spaces and understandings that we haven't gone into before.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maria is an accomplished author, an expert Master Dowser, who's discovered the long-last civilization of the elongated skull people at Stonehenge and across Europe.
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  SPEAKER_00: And today we're going to talk about the different earth energies, the ley lines, the elongated skulls, the sacred sites, and Maria's latest discovery.
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  SPEAKER_00: So welcome to Awakening, Maria.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you for having me.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's absolutely my pleasure to be here this evening from the UK.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's dive straight in.
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  SPEAKER_00: One of your most fascinating areas of research is deep underground, under the earth, with the yin waters that you've discovered underneath sacred sites.
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  SPEAKER_00: Could you share a bit about these waters and and why our ancestors then built these monuments above them and then like what is their role in amplifying the earth's energy?
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  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a wonderful start because we're talking about feminine energies.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, because with the earth emits masculine, hermaphrodite, and feminine energies, and more besides.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what I noticed as a master douse being brought up from a very early age, water divine, is that in esoteric water divine in law, there's two types of water.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's the water that falls from the sky and fills up the aquifers and the underground stream.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's called ground water worldwide.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's Yang water.
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  SPEAKER_01: But the earth, Gaia, Mother Earth, she can generate within her being water.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that water is very, very, very deep, but it emits a particular type of energy pattern that is known to Master Dowsers called a geospiral energy pattern.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's what the ancients were looking for to mark, to decree, to personify the sacred center of place.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you have that beneath the great pyramids, you have that the center, the near center of Stonehenge, you have it at the near center of Avebury Henge, which is the world's largest stone circle to date.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's probably a lot more to find.
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  SPEAKER_01: So why this water?
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  SPEAKER_01: It emits a Hertzsian frequency that entrains your brain to go into seven or ten hertz frequency.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so it encourages you.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've I've had my brain literally marked with uh a console and equipment to test my theory.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because I really don't like belief systems, you know, like you must believe me because I say the truth, because half the time it isn't the truth.
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  SPEAKER_01: I want to show people the evidence and then say you decide.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's not a belief system, yeah, it's an actuality.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so my brainwave showed that they entered between seven and 10 hertz as I approach the near center of a sacred site.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's automatic.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So your consciousness is changing.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're in an altered state of consciousness as soon as you enter that circle.
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  SPEAKER_01: And as you walk towards the center, that's what's happening.
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  SPEAKER_01: But more than that, if that isn't a wonder in itself, which I think it is, but more than that, water has memory.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, homeopaths tell us, uh, Imoto told us that decades ago, for example.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we, when we're under or on top, or you know, literally by that energy field, it's an energy field, this spiral pattern.
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  SPEAKER_01: Think of it not as the water below, but the energy field, it's emitting is a spiral pattern.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then if we're in close proximity to that, we're by the Akashic record of place.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because so when we go to these places, they hold on to the memory of who's been there, what you've been doing there, not just yesterday, but going back and back and back and back.
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  SPEAKER_01: Also, I've noticed, you know, over the decades working with this energy, we too are water.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, we're we're we're a high percentage of water.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then if we cleanse our body water above this very deep water, this yin water, I coined that phrase about 25 years ago now.
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  SPEAKER_01: It used to be called primary water by male dousers.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I wanted to give Gaia her power back, and I called it yin water, goddess water, uh, and we can cleanse our own body water above it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So these sacred sites that have this energy pattern, they're multifaceted.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're they're not just one thing, and to say that is uh stripping them of their purpose because they will do one thing and then another and then another.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the legacy of the ancestors, that's what we have inherited.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's the the the water holds the memory and of the Akashic and it's got a certain frequency.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the um do you find that the yin water does it move the spiral clockwise or anti-clockwise, or does that change?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's a really good uh question, and yes to both.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like it goes uh clockwise, and then six days after a new or full moon, it will change its rotation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, why six days after a new or full moon?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why not the new moon?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why not the full moon?
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  SPEAKER_01: Pliny the Elder, a Greek chronicler, a scholar, if you will, and Deodoras, he was also a Greek scholar, uh, and they wrote down and recorded things in chronicles and journals and the like.
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  SPEAKER_01: They always said the druids, which were much, much later than the stone building phase in Europe, the druids said they would only pick mistletoe six days after a new moon.
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  SPEAKER_01: They would only pick the Adda's egg, which is like a shedded snakeskin, which was revered by the ancient druids in the British Isles, six days after a full moon.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they were recorded, they were masters of nature.
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  SPEAKER_01: They knew that these earth energies beneath their feet at their sacred sites, their ceremonial locations, was in harmony with around the first quarter moon phase.
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  SPEAKER_01: And one in which modern people often leave out.
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  SPEAKER_01: We often celebrate the new moon and the full moon, but not the first quarter.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the so the first quarter is the seventh day, and that day before that precedes it is the power day for earth energies, has long been recorded by Master Dows going back nearly a century.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is when we should, if we're planting seeds in our in the soil, in the garden, this this should be a good time on the sixth day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, what I noticed uh when we come to gardening or agricultural production, for example, which was really big in the Bronze Age.
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  SPEAKER_01: If we go back four and a half thousand years in the UK, it was recorded again by our famous chroniclers, Diodorus and Pliny the Elder, that Britain supplied two harvests a year to Greece.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I looked into why is that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why we don't even do that now, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's one harvest uh a year.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I looked into the yield uh per acre of old-fashioned wheat, it's called Emma and spelt, yeah, and we've modified it uh to modern-day grain.
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  SPEAKER_01: But back in that era, uh until the advent of chemical fertilizers, nitrogen, the yield per acre could not be beaten until the 1950s, because the Bronze Age people were aware of Gaia and they would take their seeds to these geospirals to charge them up.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then, once they charged them up, they knew where to plant.
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  SPEAKER_01: And as I was studying at Oxford, I looked at how British, old British farmers utilize the land.
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  SPEAKER_01: They knew the nuances, the heartbeat of Gaia, and they also knew about geopathic stress, toxic earth energies, and that which to avoid.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they knew basically how to read the land.
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  SPEAKER_01: And once you are able to read the land, you can work with it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's what I do with people worldwide.
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  SPEAKER_01: I decode land, I declare decode offices sometimes and houses.
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  SPEAKER_01: And once we realize that we can live in harmony with the earth, bingo, you get, uh as my agricultural trials proved, you get stronger, faster, straighter, growing crop.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that that's an actual fact.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think the ancients utilize the earth energy spiritually to entrain the brain into alpha.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think they use them practically to help them with the harvests.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think they use them in their everyday lives by placing houses, their domestic dwellings above particular energy patterns as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everyone living in harmony with the earth.
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  SPEAKER_01: And again, I say this is a legacy that we have inherited, and all we need to know is a few simple facts to how the ancients lived to neutralize that ancient wisdom and knowledge.
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  SPEAKER_00: Please, can you share these these facts with us so that we can understand um more about how we can live in harmony with our earth, with each other?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, and I I keep the angels keep going.
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  SPEAKER_00: The day, the sixth day feels very important.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, is there a ritual that you you practice or that you want to recommend to us that something to do on this day for ourselves, for the earth?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes, because I've been doing this for 35 years, and I've been brought up with esoteric water divine, and so I look at the lunar calendar a little bit differently to other people, okay, and I've been brought up in a very uh metaphysical environment as a child.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, one beautiful way to experience uh a geospiral energy is just go to a sacred site if there's one nearby, or find in America a really ancient uh tree, for example, like a hemlock tree, uh, or if you're in the southwest of the United States, more of a juniper tree or a massive amount of sage growing naturally because they love the geospiral energy pattern.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nature attunes to that.
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  SPEAKER_01: So even if you can't douse, I'm trying to inspire people to look to nature because nature decrees that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And again, in different parts of the world, we're going to get different different trees.
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  SPEAKER_01: Over here, it's the ew tree that is very similar to the hemlock in the northeast coast, and yeah, and it's the uh the the western uh that you get more juniper for for example.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, when uh we come up to the sixth day, if we can find a geospiral energy pattern through Dowson, great.
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  SPEAKER_01: If not, look to nature, and then just stand calmly above what you feel is that energy pattern and kind of ground yourself into into the earth quite nicely, and then quite often, if that water, that deep in water, wants to work with you, you you always ask permission to work with the energies.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I'm a druid, so you would ask the ancestors, the spirit of place, and the guardian.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's how a druid would do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I say to people, use your own spirituality, your own uh skill base.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're not all identical, thankfully.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, so I'm stood there, I've kind of grounded into it, and if the energy wants to work with you, you'll feel a gentle pull forward, yeah, or you'll feel a pull to the side, or sometimes slightly backwards, you'll feel that energy saying, Yes, you can work with me.
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  SPEAKER_01: We can't take it for granted that any energy, be it spiritual, be it earth energy, actually wants to work with us.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, a lot of people say for the greater good, or what's the greater good?
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  SPEAKER_01: The greater good could be uh a million and one things.
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  SPEAKER_01: So in druidry, it's a case of attune to it, ask, and then see what the answer is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: And nine times out of ten, those of humble heart will be given that that energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then you could ask, you know, about uh your own uh life.
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  SPEAKER_01: You could uh ask that Mother Earth uh beautiful yim water energy to cleanse your being, and then once you've cleansed your being, uh, which you can do intuitively, see the energies rising up through the feet, up through the chakra system, over the head, and back down to Mother Earth, is a simple, beautiful way of working with earth energy at that point, and then you can literally seed what it is that you would like to achieve.
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  SPEAKER_01: And let's say I want to write a book, I want to travel, I want to just have peace in my home, I just want love in my life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, whatever that seed is, we can plant it into that changing day of that rotation, and then imagine Mother Earth is constantly moving that through space-time, yeah, uh, and allowing it to grow and to flourish.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I've worked with hundreds of people over the years doing that, all of whom have felt that it uh encouraged, uh allowed thoughts and intents to blossom.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it is a wonderful, wonderful gift of Gaia.
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  SPEAKER_00: Wow, I can feel it.
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  SPEAKER_00: When when the energies move, say clockwise, and then they change to move anti-clockwise.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some people say that um anti-clockwise is yin and clockwise is yang.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, what do you sense with like the direction of movement of the spiral?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is one more feminine, one more masculine?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's feminine energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ultimately, that spiral is feminine energy, it's uh goddess uh energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but uh all energies have a solar and a lunar aspect.
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  SPEAKER_01: I prefer solar and lunar aspects rather than saying masculine and feminine, because then we mix that up with like yin and yang, and really in Dausin geomantic terms, that's understanding the earth, they're they're just aspects of the same self, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we could say I've got two hands, one is ying and one is yang, but it's an aspect of my whole, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So in geomancy, that's how we look at it, they are two expressions of the same whole.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I understand that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so the lunar would then be the anti-clockwise, and the solar could be the clockwise, but they're both there in whichever direction it's going, anyway.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a bit of both in whichever way you're going.
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  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: Even in with the feminine earth energies, there's always a mat uh an element of the masculine, and in the masculine, there's always an element of the female.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what the yin and yang symbol is.
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  SPEAKER_01: It contains a small seed within each aspect.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we look generally speaking to anything in Dailsing going clockwise to be uh male and anti-clockwise female, but with the geospiral energy pattern, it is predominantly female but will contain that kind of seed of the masculine which is needed to fertilize.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's needed to co-create, for example.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you can't really have one without the other if you're going to co-create.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's where geomancy, the understanding of earth energies, comes into flourishing because it will say, yes, each one contains the seed of the other.
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  SPEAKER_00: I absolutely understand.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, there's so much that I want to talk about.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm feeling a pull towards talking about the elongated skull people that that uh you've discovered that lived around Stonehenge, but also you found um them into other places in Europe.
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  SPEAKER_00: And like what story is emerging uh about this lost civilization and how's it changing how we used to think?
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  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, please share with us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I first discovered uh uh an elongated skull person in Stonehenge in Firons 10 years ago now.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it was it's been a journey understanding this uh long-lost civilization, and uh it was at a what's called a long barrow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Long barrows in across Europe, uh uh and especially in the British Isles are the oldest monument in the prehistoric landscape.
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  SPEAKER_01: They predate stone circles by a thousand years.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so we're looking at a monument.
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  SPEAKER_01: If uh people don't know uh what a long barrow is.
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  SPEAKER_01: In some parts of the country, they are a long earthen section with uh megalithic chambers, like caves on the on the inside.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, you go it internally into it, and they have these chambers which incidentally are acoustically tuned to 111 Hertz frequency.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and that's been discovered by uh the Redden University duo, uh David Keaton and Professor Aaron Watson.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's long been known, it's not a recent uh uh discovery, it's just that people are starting to talk about it now, and often without quoting who discovered it, as if they discovered it, which I never agree with.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think everybody should be complimented for their discoveries.
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  SPEAKER_01: So these are the the longbows, they were acoustic healing temples uh in their first uh phase, if you will, and towards the end of that era, which is called the Neolithic, five and a half thousand years ago, for listeners and viewers that want a timeline.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, then parts of the body were placed into these long barrows, such as the skull and such as the long bones, and sometimes a whole skeleton, their death practices were completely different to we put a whole body in into the ground fleshed.
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  SPEAKER_01: They they didn't do that in England in the Neolithic.
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  SPEAKER_01: They had uh platforms where carrion would peck off the flesh and leave behind the dry bones, okay, and it would be the dry bones that went in, like Native American practices.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how it uh it was over here, through all the archaeological evidence and more evidence besides.
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  SPEAKER_01: So imagine then I'm at Stonehenge 10 years ago, and I'm looking at the largest long barrow in Northwest Europe.
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  SPEAKER_01: And normally, Natalie, in long barrows, you get more than one person, you get up to 36.
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  SPEAKER_01: Some long barrows contained up to 100 people.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there am I at the largest long mound, and I'm expecting to find wow, hundreds of people from the Stonehenge landscape.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I found one person, and she was a woman.
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  SPEAKER_01: I found a woman, and that's unprecedented in the landscape.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I knew she had to be a high queen or a high priestess.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think in the ancient world they were both.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they weren't one or the other, they combined a lot of skills, as was recorded in the uh later Iron Ages by uh Caesar and many other Roman chroniclers.
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  SPEAKER_01: So here we are.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I thought I've got to track her down.
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  SPEAKER_01: I read the reports, I I thought uh I will, I have to, I felt compelled to meet this woman.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I happened to be studying at Oxford at the time that gave me access to certain parts of universities elsewhere, such as Cambridge, to be next to this person.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when I was next to this person, gloved up, you know, everything appropriately done, and temperature is modified in these uh human remains sections, it's all very professional.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I realized, whoa, she's got an elongated skull.
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  SPEAKER_01: So it was by looking at her, being by her.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I did something uh quite unusual, which I've spoken about before, but still has resonance in my heart.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I asked Great Spirit to get rid of the curator for a couple of minutes, and Great Spirit uh weaved that for me, and she had to had to leave.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I placed my hands near her throat chakra and said, I will be your voice for the world.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whatever your story is, I will tell that, be that good or bad deeds.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then I put my hands by the third eye chakra and said, I will be your seer, show me your lost civilization.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then when I went round her extended crown chakra, boom, one pulse, two pulses.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think the ancient elongated civilization had two crown chakras, and their brains had bigger capacity.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if their brains had bigger capacity, maybe their spiritual side had a bigger capacity.
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  SPEAKER_01: I certainly felt that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And from that moment on, I became her voice, and she connected to me and gave me discovery after discovery after discovery.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I she's long been by me.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what I love about that, Natalie, and why my heart sings with joy when I speak about her is because this is a woman from the past talking to a modern woman of the day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and not a man discoverer, not a famous uh man of ancient civilizations, but a woman, and that's I think what she wanted.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So uh so that was the start, and then I just went on to photograph more elongated skullled people and to learn more about them, but to realize that in the sort of like around the 1700s in the UK up until the early of 20th century, so that's about sort of two, three, three hundred years, give or take, the antiquarians, the early archaeologists, for instance, basically ransacked the long barrows.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then they went on to ransack the round barrows because they discovered gold at Stonehenge, and suddenly they would become very wealthy.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they ransacked it, took the artifacts away and placed them in private collections that eventually went to places like the British Museum and other museums.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh, I bought a very old book which had all of the early antiquarian drawings of the artifacts that had been taken.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so as I was writing The Secret History of Stonehenge, my uh latest book, I felt my heart I had to return the artifacts.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I uh photocopied and I went to each barrow around Stonehenge and I returned, albeit in paper, not in actuality, but spiritually, I returned all the artifacts by placing them either in badger holes, uh, gopher hills or mole hills, and so and from that moment on bang, the priestesshood started to talk to me and say, look at this artifact.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I realized what the priest uh priestesshood wore in the Bronze Age four and a half thousand years ago, and Natalie, it was splendid.
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  SPEAKER_01: They had, for example, massive amber breastplates, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So they had amber breastplates, and then uh in report after report, I noticed that they were saying they had they had pierced ears, and then they had nose piercings and piercings here, and spacers often quite in the their jewelry design of jets.
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  SPEAKER_01: They loved uh amber and jet, black jewelry.
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  SPEAKER_01: And when I was writing the book, I said to my daughter Raven, oh look, they were piercing, uh, because that was quite common, and also they found pieces of metal and they analyzed the tips of these thin bits of metal, and it had skin and black pigment they were tattooing.
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  SPEAKER_01: So the priesthood, they had it piercings and they were highly tattooed.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's like Gen Z today.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's come back round, and the reincarnated priestess hood is there, and they happen to like crystals.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I noticed that all of the people buried that had these piercings and tattoos were buried with a standard crystal kit.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: It was standard, everybody carried particular crystals in in that Bronze Age period.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: So, through connecting with the long-scaled queen, as I've always called her, she is my my queen.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I answer to her and her alone, all of these discoveries.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: I was just in the right place at the right time, synchronicity after synchronicity, as if her silence was holding my hand and guiding me across the ancient landscape.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: I've got so many questions.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: This is incredible.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: The first one is um, if we could go back to the 111 hertz, that's uh the frequency under underneath.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: What does that do?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: What does one on one do?
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's a really good question.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Again, it's about raising your consciousness, making that frequency in your brain just a little bit more receptive, just a little bit more uh resonant with the energies around you.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: So you can enter a higher state of consciousness.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: But more than that, what they were doing in these barrows, uh, and this is one great example, it's uh we're gonna go to Scotland now, we're gonna head up to that Scottish Celtic border, and you have a long barrow called campster long, and you have a round barrow about uh a hundred metres away, about 350 or so feet, if I've interpreted a hundred meters correctly.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure people are gonna Google and go you're a bit out, uh, roughly uh that distance.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm drumming in uh campster uh long barrow, and in campster round, if I'm doing that, it's silent on the outside.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: You can't hear me drumming, but if I'm in campster round, 300 or so feet away, it comes up beneath the full floor like thunder.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's traveling.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: So they had all of these amazing acoustic effects that would take you from your ordinary experience to the extraordinary experience and bring your consciousness up much higher for probably things like divination, like uh using that for oracle work or for healing work.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's also quite a healing because you're uh starting to get calm, yeah, your your body will begin to self-heal because you're not in a stress modality, for example.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I think on all of these different levels, these ancient, ancient structures that we call long barrows and cons and core cons uh today were uh resonated to 111 hertz and they were amplifiers for the ancient people.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, something's happening to me energetically as we talk about this.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very sensory, so and lately some incredible things have been happening to my brain, um and and I've been seeing, feeling, and experiencing light come from above behind, coming like wave after wave, and then I feel it go through the body.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: So as you're talking about this, I'm having this activation.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you for giving us all this wisdom, but also helping us to expand because as you talk about it, I can sense it's happening.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I wanted to ask about amber, what the meaning is and how it supports, and then which crystals were they buried with?
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: Amber has some really amazing properties.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: For example, uh, when we look to Native American for clearing, they use sage.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: Over here, we would use mugwort until sage was uh imported by the Romans, but traditionally it's it's mugwort, and also amber has long been known to be like the uh light of the sun solidified, yeah.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: And if you burn a little bit of amber, then uh it releases a kind of uh cleansing energy, so you can use it that way.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Also, amber has a static property, so a bit like uh if some people comb their hair with a nylon comb and it goes, you know, when that static uh happens, then if you're using substances like wool or other substances, I could make that magically stick to me, yeah, because it's drawing electromagnetic properties like jet uh does too.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: So there's that kind of uh energy to it, and also it was used uh in up until about 1930, uh 1940 in cough mixture, so it has uh healing properties as well, so it has cleansing properties, uh healin properties, soothing properties, and it was being imported in bulk from the Baltic Islands, especially Estonia, which is way, way, way north.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it used to be part of the uh Russian communist state before it became an independent country uh some decades ago.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: So it has all of these amazing properties, but also it's protective.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: So it's protecting, it can protect a space, for example.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: And in traditional uh Wiccan and Druidry, you always get somebody that holds the space.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's their job.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: You hold the space for people to meditate or for people to cast magic.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: One person holds that space.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and I think the one of the uh acts of the the priestess and the priesthood was the the amber would hold that space to make it safe so that they could uh cast magic.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: So it's it's a wonderful, wonderful property, and it's always related to the sun because it's amber and it's very light.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: Amber has that light uh quality to it, it's not a heavy uh substance.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: So they they adored that.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: That was in each crystal kit that I analyzed uh through burial finds.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm looking at burial finds and I'm reinterpreting uh them and saying, why is everybody carrying this?
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_01: Then they would always have tweezers, and when those tweezers were analyzed under a microscope, they had bits of herbs, so they were obviously grinding down herbs because they also had a little chopping board in each of these, and then they were picking up the herbs with tweezers, yeah.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: So they were herbalists as well as uh uh crystal healers, and there's numerous folklore going way, way back in the British Isles on healing properties of plants, as elsewhere.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, China, for example, is a is a firm example and in uh and India alike.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: But over here we had a similar thing.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: So they had tweezers, chopping boards, and then the other crystal that they really liked that they imported from the north of England at Whitby Bay was jet.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: Jet is also a fossil.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: So we're looking at amber, that's like a fossil, yeah, and some amber has insects in it, and jet is also a bit like uh a fossil, it too has electrostatic uh properties, and they used jet in round kind of circles, which were probably placed uh on, I would say, the chakras.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know if they uh believed in chakras in that era, but I do know that barrows and places in Egypt, the earth energies pulse seven times, and that if you walk along those, you you balance your chakras in terms of earth energy.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: So I think they were placing bits on the body, and they also really loved white quartz.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, they never imported things like amethyst that comes from uh another part of the world, for example.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: So if I went up to an ancient Stonehenge priestess and said, I've got am I amethyst, they go, What's that?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't want that.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Do you see what I mean?
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: So they used stones that could magically change colour as well.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: And a great example comes from Stonehenge.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: And if we go back to his early phase, there was a spring, a healing spring.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: And by that healing spring that bubbles and babbles its tune uh outwards, there was particular types of flint.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's a hard, hard stone.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: And if you placed it in the water, it would be a whitish colour or sometimes like a yellowy colour.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: It comes in different varieties of colour, but it's kind of like a dull colour.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: But then if I take it and place it in the healing water and leave it for a little while and bring it back out, it changes into magenta pink.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: Heart chakra for for uh example.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: So they would use these stones that have these unusual uh properties that would seem magical, and they are magical.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: When I saw that when I was uh by some archaeologists once, I thought that is so so magical.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: I want one sort of uh sort of thing.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: So they they left these uh different types of uh crystal and local stones as well, like uh the flint that I've mentioned, but they also had gold and gold in beads, uh, so that they were again these round things, as if you're gonna place them on particular parts of the body, for example, and all of these uh items and some more items besides were placed in these bags that had gold buttons, and then in their hair they wore trestles like grips of gold as well.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: And the the men I noticed wore green bracers, uh, was studded in gold, so they were the kings of bling to uh to to some regard and the queens uh of bling, but with the metaphysical properties to that as well, so they would have stood out, yeah, far from the Madden crowd when they were around.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: And what I also discovered about them is they were always buried with incense pots, that's what archaeologists called them, incense pots.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: They were recently uh analyzed, well reanalyzed, uh I should say more correctly, and it was found that they contained very strong opiates.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: Now, these incense pots you could swing like church sensors, yeah.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so I think they were really in such an altered state of consciousness because you're around these uh mind-altering frequencies from earth energies, earth currents, in the chambers, and then you're around uh substances like that, you are going to go voof into another dimension, and maybe they were using those to go in in and out of portals, in and out of realms, because in England we have the realm of the feel the realm of the fairy, and to us, in our tradition, they're not Tinkerbell like Walt Disney made them, they are the same height as us, the fee, yeah, and they have their realm.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes when you're in an altered state of consciousness at a sacred site, uh sometimes the fee will interact with you, yeah.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and again, in human height and in beautiful form, not as little uh uh fairies with uh with wings, uh, and the fee can be good or bad, just like humans.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: So you have to know which uh kind of fee you're with.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_01: But my point is it's the realms, the two realms can come as one, and lays in ley lines in Ireland have always been called fairy lines, for example, because the fee uh travel along the the lines, and you can't interrupt them in Ireland.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_01: If you took out uh you built a corner of a house on a lay, and this was documented, the house would crumble.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: You've got to get off them because they're fee, and you're not building on my line, for they travel on them.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so in in Ireland, all of the fairy lines were kind of guarded and revered by the locals, not not built upon, and also in England, if we turn to the English mythos mythology about lays, they're guarded, and they're guarded by a big black dog.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dogs are often guardians, whether it's Anubis to the other other realms, Serbius, uh, and the hellhounds of the goddess hell, uh, in Germanic uh folklore where we get the word hell from, it's from a goddess, the goddess hell.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: She was the goddess of the underworld, not uh necessarily a bad uh entity, uh, really.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and these these black dogs guard the lays, and uh, so we have a lot of mythology.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: There's a black dog on the line, and you don't uh annoy the guardian, the black dog, you you ask permission to be to be on the line, and then you're granted that uh permission.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_01: So we have a lot of folklore here that really does say that these have guardians, whether it's the fee, whether it's a black dog, for example, but they are guarded, and they are still today.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because such strong energies are moving, and the fairies are moving through them, and I feel like other beings as well, other elementals, but also the energy itself of the earth is moving through these areas, and and it's it's like it's like stopping the meridian flow in our own body or building something on top of a meridian of our own body, it's it wouldn't work.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, it's it feels very important to honor it.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: And and I keep getting this image that so I want to mention it, I'm getting this image of um like thousands of years ago that they knew that if they um if there was like an illness or if there was a blockage in their system, they could use um a tattoo to to put a tattoo on the area where the illness is, and that tattoo will like that marking will shift the frequency.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's what I'm being shown.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have you heard of this or is uh discovered this?
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I thought the one of the first documentations of uh tattooing uh came from uh the border, I think it was Switzerland and Italy.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: It was certainly the body is called UTSI or Outsi, depending on how you want to pronounce it, and it was found as a mummified body uh going back thousands of years, I think about 8,000 uh years ago, but don't quote me on that, but many thousands of years ago, and because the snow had landed on it frozen in time, yeah, literally frozen in time, and is now on display, and I think it's been the Italian uh Border Museum.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the body was being analyzed because it was literally uh a man, he had a herbal bag with him.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_01: He was traveling the Alps and something happened, and uh, maybe an avalanche, whatever, and he was frozen in time, thousands and thousands of years old.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: And uh a woman was uh part of the team that was analyzing the body who happened to know about meridian lines and acupuncture, thank goodness, uh, with a holistic mindset, and realized that the tattoos that he had were medical records of his injuries with uh with the with the tattooing.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: And when I kind of uh looked at the symbolism of the uh energies of Earth energies, they were also carved into.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: To signs and things.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think they were using those particular energies which are known for healing, like a spiral pattern, a concentric circle, the chevron pattern.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: They're used throughout the ancient world and they have meanings throughout the ancient world.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I think they were definitely using uh those uh tattooing.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: But isn't it remarkable that we think here in Europe that acupuncture came from the east?
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: No, I think that the because that was in the West, that was thousands and thousands of years before the recorded uh Chinese acupuncture.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: We always think things are coming from the east, whether it's the Anatolian farmers bringing in farming, it goes from west to east, and um, you know, spiritual practices east-west.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think that, Natalie.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think the people were united and I think they traveled and they came together hand in hand and heart to heart.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's one-way traffic.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_01: Humanity's not like that.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: We have Brits living in Australia, Australia's living in Britain.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: People have always interacted, it's never one-way traffic.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I question that.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: And also when we look to the lost civilizations like Hyperborea, Atlantis, Lemoria, to name just uh just a few, then we could say there's other influences coming in uh as well.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but archaeologists like to say, oh, it's all the Anatolian farmers, they migrated across, they came to the British shores, built some things, bingo, no mystery there.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's that that's the stance.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas I think there are questions that need to be raised of these long-lost civilizations, which I think the uh long scald have their genesis in Atlantis and Hyperborea.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and I'm now getting this image.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna so I've been given this symbol, um, and I I just am very interested to share it with you.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I've just drawn it.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: Can you see like an affinity symbol with two lines each end?
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and and I was shown that if you draw the symbol on the left ankle inside, it raises your frequency.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: So um when like back in 2019, 2020, um it kept my immune system extremely high.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I I anytime there's viruses or anything, I just put this, I just draw it.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: I can just energetically draw it, or I can use a pen and draw it, and I feel like it's it's powerful.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I feel like this wisdom of working with sacred geometry and different patterns and the ley lines, oh, and you also you work with astronomy and you put it all together, um, it like it unlocks secret secrets that are right here for us to to connect with again.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: Could you share, because you've mentioned like some of the secrets from Stonehenge, and could you share some of like the and also you've got a a discovery that you've just recently had.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_00: Could you share that with us and any other um secrets that you've uncovered that you'd like to share with us?
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm writing my latest book, which is all about ancient Egypt.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_01: I've been to Egypt many, many times, and I'm going back with a group uh in November, for example, and nobody's really decoded the earth energies there.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_01: They've looked at lines, a force, like lays, because that's so common, that's the only thing people know about.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: But that's not the power in the land with uh geomantic terms, there's other powers in the land, like the earth currents that kind of entwine a lay.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_01: A lay is not just a line, it sometimes is a living force of a male and female earth current entwining it.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I've looked to ancient Egypt and I'm beginning to decode it.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I start in the pyramids and then I go down through all of the temples, looking at the temple secrets and and what's going on in the temples with earth energies, and then I realize that some of the hieroglyphs, for example, hieroglyphs uh rather uh are manifestations of how earth energies flow in in some regard, like an aspect, yeah.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm interpreting uh hieroglyphs differently through the uh eyes of Mother Earth and the ancient geomancers there, and so all the secrets that I'm locking, I think, were known by the pharaohs.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_01: So they're like secrets of the pharaohs that they kept encoded into temples, so that once you know how to read a bit of encodement, you know which earth energies are there.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's like reading a map.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_01: This is here, that's there.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_01: And so I've been I've been doing that, and I'm gonna have that out in November and then start discussing that in full, so no alert spoilers there.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and also recently, which is going to be very exciting, that I'm going to include in the book, is uh I've looked into uh the elongated skullled people of Egypt, but not of Amana period.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody talks about Amana period, which is Archonatum and King Tuts and their sister that was uh portrayed with elongated skulls, for example.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's commonly known.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I've discovered the lost priesthood, not of that era, I've discovered them before and way, way after.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_01: So they're uh almost like they were kept Natalie secret away from people because where they're not commonly portrayed.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: So if you if you go to a temple and you look, oh look, there's the Pharaoh, you know, there's uh uh a crook and frail, for example.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's the the priesthood, you know, with the uh opening of the mouth ceremony, and you can look around and they are often uh round uh skull, occasionally in the Amana period, you'd have long skullled people, and I've decoded their secret journey through time, yeah, to the last of them.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh that's came to me, I believe, through the Neolithic Queen.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna give her thanks for that because again, once she kind of comes into my space, uh visionary, I sense, I hear, uh, even though it sounds like my own voice, I I know that uh that it's her.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not saying I hear a direct ancient voice, but it's her voice speaking through me, if uh if that makes any sense uh at all.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yes, I feel very um honored and privileged to be a part of this journey, unlocking the secrets of the past.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for doing this work because otherwise it would remain hidden.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: We and we're ready.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: We're ready to know the truth and have these um activations, and and I feel like here on earth we're going through such an incredible time of remembering.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, what are you sensing about what's happening like as a collective here with us and Mother Earth?
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_01: I think that uh as a geomancer, I have always known working with Master Dowsers worldwide, from Chinese geomancer to German Master Dowsers.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: My own father was a Master Dowser.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a second generation Master Dowser.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: With all of that information, we know the earth can constantly heal herself and change.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's humanity.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: So people, you know, they say, I'm gonna go heal a lay.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_01: You'd be better off healing yourself to work with the land.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because Mother Earth is four billion years old.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_01: She's four billion years of wisdom to date, and we are like tiny little lives compared to her.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I think if we listen to her wisdom, she knows how to self-heal her system.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: But at that same time, if we're eco-warrior aware of how we can, you know, help Mother Earth on practical levels, on spiritual levels, that's wonderful too.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh my point is she she definitely can self-self-heal lines and she can uh self-heal.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_01: But if we can assist her in that journey, but we need to be in balance to do that.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: We need to remember that when we want to rebalance something, whether it's the uh energies in our home or office or wherever, the first step is we need to be in balance, yeah.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the more and more people that come into balance, come into that resonance, come into spirituality opens up, then they can balance their spirituality uh with their lives.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_01: And then that's a wonderful thing because then that draws people together, and we're coming up to an eclipse that has been well mooted.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: So, but what happens in eclipse with earth energies?
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_01: This is a wonder.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, because people may feel this if they start to sensitize, even if they're they sensitize to the energies in their backyard or garden, as we say over here, because at the the at the moment of an eclipse, it's more effective where you see it, but even where it isn't visible, but it's happening, okay?
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_01: So it's more stronger within visibility range, but will be happening worldwide.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_01: The Earth energies, long, long documented, and I was part of a major experiment in 1999 when there was a total eclipse of England.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_01: Very rare can that be seen.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_01: So I was part of a dousing team because we already knew that in all probability, and has been suggested before by Chinese geomancers and people throughout history, that the earth energies boom, boom, boom, they still you can't douse them, that you can't feel them, they go still, and that's why the bird song goes quiet, everything becomes quiet, and then a little bit further on down the line, boom, she reboots up again.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's a self-healing system, it's where the astronomy, uh, the where the sun and the moon are on the ecliptic, are influencing Mother Earth, and uh that's that's a wonder in itself, and that's why, incidentally, the first phase of Stonehenge, long, long before the Stonehenge that we're familiar with, the iconic uh trilotons, it was an eclipse-predicting calculator that was discovered in the 1960s by Gerald Hawkins for, for instance, they knew they understood that the earth energies would quiet, and they were waiting not for that quiet bit, but for the reboot, and they were a part of the reboot, and that's when Mother Earth regenerates her being, yeah, and we can be a part of that, we can regenerate with that moment of reboot.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, it's a bit like when the the laptop reboots, it's all uh uh a fresh, or you hit that refresh button, you know, and it all comes uh up anew.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what we can be a part of.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I always say to people around an eclipse, you know, really just start to sensitize the week beforehand, you know, kick off the shoes, ground yourself.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: What do you feel beneath the earth?
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: You might feel a little bit of movement if you're on an earth current or an energy line.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_01: You will feel movement, you'll feel that pull I was discussing.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then if you can suss that out, go in the garden, be inspired, go to a park, go to a sacred site, and uh feel for these energies if you cannot douse them, and then go there on the eclipse if you can, and you'll notice the stillness and that quiet period.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's a wonder of the earth that we can still interact with today.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: And that is why earth is so wise, because that is nature that is natural healing, reorganizing back into like yeah, a ref a refreshing energy.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm also getting this message about that it's also that this happens, so happens with the eclipses, but I'm also picking up it happens with like portals.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm picking up like when when there's a lot of humans coming together and meditating, so um for the like the Lions Gate portal, or um I'm also picking up for the equinoxes, so it's beautiful because the 21st of December is now uh a world meditation day, so people can actually tune into this.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_00: What I'm picking up is well, on the solstice, the solstice actually means like sun stands still, and so it is a moment of stillness.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um don't you find like just before we have an eclipse or before we have a portal opening or anything like that, there's a lot of energy, and and it like what I'm picking up is that it's um an opportunity, a lot of movement, opportunity to to dissolve, to release, so that you can fully embody and step into the new after that moment of stillness.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the moment of stillness at the solstice is over three days, you know, it's protracted, yeah, uh, as you probably know.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to repeat what what people know.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so it's a protracted period.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, it's it's a protracted period, whereas uh an eclipse, that moment in time, for example, is not protracted, it's not going to go on for days.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_01: Do you see what I mean?
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's that moment in time, it's that moment in time where something uh really connects with the heavens above and with the sun and the moon, which always the ancestors have seen as the right eye and the left eye.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's how our ancient ancestors saw the sun and the moon.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and they realize that when when these come together and you and they kind of uh get get caught in that wonder of each other, and that they block off the light except round the outside, that's when the earth feels that it's a feeling system, and that's what we can join in in that feeling system.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what uh I love, and also what I would uh say to people as well that uh would like to work with uh with eclipse energy, it's about stillness.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: So water has memory, so at the moment of the eclipse in your local time, whatever your local time is.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I know well what it is in the UK, but you know, people have to find that out wherever they they live.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, then you can make up your own essence with water by placing it on the ground, and that's stillness, yeah.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_01: So that when you feel your life is too hectic, you're feeling stressy, you're feeling ah, with the kids or or or whatever, take a couple of drops underneath uh the tongue and then stillness.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: And if that feels right, I always say to people if it feels right and if it resonates, because I've worked with uh making essences at sacred sites for many, many years, and the eclipse one is is particularly nice as well, and also with uh with picking herbs at that time, you're picking that in the moment of stillness, in that portal of time that isn't going to happen that often.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a time of gathering uh herbs belonging to the sun and to the moon, for example.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so we can then think about you know, foraging uh at that time, for want of a better word, or picking and drying those herbs out, and then again, as long as they're obviously non-poisonous and one can make herbal teas out of them, which you'd have to do your own research on, then that's a moment in time, that's a magic moment in time that you have now gathered medicinal herbs, and that's what I do.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_01: I I look at the times that are unusual, and I gather herbs at that time, and then I celebrate those herbs to the heavens above, to where I've picked them on the earth below, is again it's a wonder.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_01: All of these little kind of things we can do that that isn't very uh difficult, you know, it really isn't.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_00: And it helps us to have it, like I love what you spoke about the water, then we've got that water for a moment in the future when you know we go out of balance or like life can get chaotic, and it's it will hold that frequency of stillness, and just one drop of it under the tongue can can bring that that that frequency, that memory of stillness and wholeness back.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's powerful.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for this tool.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's exactly what I said, and that's and that's how easy it is.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_01: Get some beautiful spring, uh spring water, uh, and ideally in a glass bottle, although sometimes practicalities can't, but in the ideal world, you know, get a really nice little uh glass bottle, ideally with a pipette, you can buy them at Chemist or you can shop online, obviously.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_01: And uh that's that's what I I would use.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: And then as a preservative, if you want to keep it for some time and you don't want it to go rank or stagnant, uh, Dr.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_01: Edward uh Back, who came out with the Backflower Remedies of World Fame now, he would use a little couple of drops of brandy in the water to preserve it, you know, like a teaspoon or two of that.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: And for those who don't necessarily like the smell of brandy, I actually don't.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't really like spirits, the smell of spirits, then I would use vodka because it's you can't really smell vodka that much, but it's it's down to personal taste.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_01: Dr.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_01: Edward Back liked brandy that had been matured in oak casp, because that's a couple of the remedies uh from that go into making uh the brandy.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, so you do need to add a little bit of a preservative if you're going to keep it for some time.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_01: That would be what I would suggest.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_01: And you can also, you know, the the listeners and the viewers can go online and find out how to do a preservative.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: There are other natural methods, but they're the easy options that often, you know, are to hand.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_01: You can buy a little, you know, the UK, you don't even have to buy a big bottle of vodka, you can get a little bottle of vodka.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_01: Just what I mean, you don't have to buy lots of uh lots of booze.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and then I bless that at the time as well.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_01: So I would already prepare it, I would make my water, I'd put in the vodka or the brandy or whatever anybody else wants to use.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: That's beautiful, and then I would bless that at that time as well.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_01: Or if I'm in a rush, and I've been in a rush before when I've been in places it doesn't always work out, then I buy the both little bottles, and then I'd bless those at the same time.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, you don't have to be holier than thou.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_01: I have made fantastic remedies when I've been rushed, and it hasn't necessarily gone the way I wanted it to, but it works out in the end, and that can be uh wonderful.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I I've also worked with animals with these uh remedies from sacred sites, and it can calm them and it can soothe them.
• 1:04:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and you know, we've we've got a whole medicinal cupboard out there, you know.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: So I would say again, have a look at which uh the moon herbs attract you, have a have a look at which of the um the sun herbs attract you, you know, which ones kind of speak to you a little and see if you can find them.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_01: Or and if you can't, you know, again, I've bought uh organic herbs online.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_01: If I can't find them in in my locality, that's good as well, because you can bless those uh at the time.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_01: So again, you know, if we can't go out foraging, might be at work, but we want to do this, then we can prepare for the day by simply shopping uh online, and there's no sin to that.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_00: So true.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_00: Could you I know we're coming towards the end of our time together, but could you give us a few examples of the moon and the sun herbs?
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, for example, there's uh what I would suggest a really traditional uh recipes of them uh would be culpepper.
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_01: He was a herbalist.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh many centuries ago, and he would list uh lots of lots of herbs.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_01: Anything that really uh attracts the warmth will be uh uh literally a sun herb, for example, uh like sunflowers, you know, they the nice and the the yellow ones.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas lunar ones tend to be like the birch tree that has that silver bark.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_01: Or when you look out into nature and something is a little bit silvery in color, that tends to be decreed uh of the moon, for example, or you get Venus uh herbs like rosemary, and you you get a a lot of each one comes under its planetary uh guidance, uh so to speak.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_01: Anything that grows watery, uh so I'll give you uh an everyday example.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_01: Cucumber, that's watery, that would be the moon.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_01: So anything that is a little bit watery uh or grows by the water, like the willow, the willow tree, it's kind of got its roots half in the the underworld and half in the in the water, it's in those liminal spaces.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so that would be classified as uh a lunar herb uh as well.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_01: So we can you know use our our intuition as well, and also what what I've done in times past, if I'm out at the um the full moon, and my favorite is actually the uh last quarter, not the last quarter, the last waning moon.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's my favorite lunar time.
• 1:07:35
  SPEAKER_01: But let's say I'm out in the uh the full moon and I'm close my eyes and I'm just to tune in to what herb calls to me, what herb is going to call to me, how am I going to communicate?
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'll just close my eyes and then I will look to where the silver moonlight touches a herb and has embraced and kissed that herb.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I will use that type of herb as well on the magical side, not the medicinal side, the magical side, okay, which is a whole different ball game, the magical side of herbs, which uh which I adore.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I will be actually in America uh at Salem in July the 11th, uh, 12th, and 13th, or the 10th, 11th, and 12th rather, next year doing a magical workshop.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_01: I will be bringing to the United States a book uh from 1699 with the practice of magic, and then I've got private access to America's Stonehenge, which is little known, but is very close to the witch city of Salem.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I will be over in the States then.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_01: And anybody interested in the magic of herbs, we're going to be making amulets and talismans, and we're going to be casting good magic near, far, and wide, and then charging everything up at the holiest of holies, America's Stonehenge, where it's not normally open to the general public, but I'm allowed private access with my guests.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow, this incredible event.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, this is gonna be magical.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_00: And you're also at Glastonbury in August 2026.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_00: Is that right?
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, there's a wonderful conference uh which we can uh Google called Portal to Ascension.
• 1:09:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it's uh uh run by a lovely chap called uh Neil with some wonderful, wonderful guests, far too numerous to uh to mention, but some of my own colleagues that I know from England are going to be there, and you've got some people from America as well, such as Laura Eisenhower and uh and many uh others.
• 1:09:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be a great event because to me it's an eclectic mix, it's a very eclectic mix, and I think once you have people of different ideas uh come together, then you have lots of knowledge abound rather than everybody thinking uh the same or looking the same, you know.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um Glastonbury is great.
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_01: You've been there so that you know everybody dresses how they want to.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_01: So if somebody wants to look smart, casual, they dress smart casual.
• 1:10:25
  SPEAKER_01: If somebody wants to look like a hippie, they dress like uh a hippie.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_01: If someone looks like a witch, they they dress like uh like a witch.
• 1:10:32
  SPEAKER_01: So I I find it uh very uh a fun vibe as well at Glastonbury, and there's some funky little shops that people can go to.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_01: So I'd say come along, spend uh the weekend with this uh very diverse uh um speakers and workshops that they're going to be having and enjoy the town of Glastonbury and the spirit of place there.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_01: It has a wonderful spirit of place.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_01: And if you have time, you could even go to the healing waters of Chalice Well, the White Spring or the Red Spring, and start gathering your your waters for your magical mixes.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_01: If you're like me, a magical person, uh, and enjoy the town uh and enjoy the food there and the ambiance uh of of place.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_01: So we I would say the uh Glastonbury conferences like the port um portal to ascension are in such a magical place that you can have so much joy and fun and meet like-minded people.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's not always about the speakers, it's about meeting and making new friends and uh and enjoying speaking how you want to about your own experiences in a warm and caring environment.
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you for sharing it.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, in this way, because it feels like you're bringing Glastonbury to us.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_00: And uh my last question is like how can people get hold of you?
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna include links below, but is there do you have your website that you want to send people to or where's the best place for them to connect?
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my teaching platform if you want to learn about Dowson to decode your own home or go to ancient sites, uh, is esotericcollege.com.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_01: I also have uh where I go around um sites worldwide like Egypt, Malta, I go on lots of adventures.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_01: Salem and America Stonehenge is uh on the agenda.
• 1:12:44
  SPEAKER_01: I've been there before, uh incidentally, and ancient America uh is the Avebury A V E B U R Y, the Avebury Experience.co.uk.
• 1:12:58
  SPEAKER_01: So it's the esotericcollege.com and the avebry experience.co.uk.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Wonderful.
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for this time together.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_00: This has been so special for me, and I know for everyone in the community and everyone who's been listening and watching.
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_00: If you've enjoyed this as much as me, please add your magic, add your lights, add your comments, your hearts, your whatever else you want to add, because it just helps these messages to reach others that also need to be sprinkled with some magic today.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you, everyone, and thank you so much, Maria.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_01: You're welcome.
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_00: Namaste.