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- 0:10Speaker 1: Mack and Bone with you here on a Thursday in
- 0:13Speaker 1: week one. It is go time, baby. How many wins
- 0:16Speaker 1: for the Panthers? And are you a playoff believer like
- 0:19Speaker 1: the three of us are? Or are you not as
- 0:22Speaker 1: cool as we are? That's the question this morning. And
- 0:25Speaker 1: if you're not as cool as we are, it's a
- 0:26Speaker 1: severe problem for you. 980 number, Bone, got creative. 8-8-1.
- 0:31Speaker 1: There always has to be somebody that puts a tie
- 0:34Speaker 1: in their prediction. Jim Zoki joins us. Let us know
- 0:39Speaker 1: which game they're tying so we can monitor it. Come on, baby.
- 0:41Speaker 1: You've got to be more specific. Zoki joins us with
- 0:44Speaker 1: a view from the booth. Zok, what's going on, man?
- 0:47Speaker 1: How are you feeling?
- 0:48Speaker 2: Feeling good. I agree with you guys. I think playoffs.
- 0:50Speaker 3: I think winning record this year. So I feel, again,
- 0:54Speaker 3: here we go. It's an exciting time of the year.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Everybody feels good about your team except– Maybe Drake May fans,
- 1:01Speaker 3: that was kind of a weird ending last night.
- 1:03Speaker 2: He said he was throwing that ball away, but it
- 1:05Speaker 2: sure looked like he was... Oh, I didn't hear that.
- 1:06Speaker 1: Okay, so.
- 1:06Speaker 3: He said, but I didn't... The throw looked like I
- 1:08Speaker 3: thought he was throwing the corner out to the receiver.
- 1:11Speaker 1: It was throwing the game away is what he was doing.
- 1:14Speaker 1: He definitely should have thrown it away, right? He was, like,
- 1:16Speaker 1: off balance, leaning back, so maybe he didn't get on
- 1:18Speaker 1: it when he wanted to, but that's a horrible mistake
- 1:20Speaker 1: to make.
- 1:21Speaker 2: It's usually when it's like you either catch it or
- 1:22Speaker 2: it's out of bounds. I'm sure it was in his head.
- 1:24Speaker 1: Yeah. But, you know, you already have the field goal
- 1:25Speaker 1: in your back pocket. So, anyway, weird start to the season.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Brutal mistake, man. Ugly game, but entertaining finish. We get
- 1:31Speaker 1: another one tonight between the Rams and the Niners. And
- 1:35Speaker 1: then we get to Panthers, Oak. So you're still saying, like,
- 1:38Speaker 1: we are winning record in playoffs. What do you think, though,
- 1:42Speaker 1: about the Pat Jones news? Because this stinks just for
- 1:45Speaker 1: him after he missed so much time last year. He's
- 1:48Speaker 1: got a back situation again. Canals says, hey, it's a
- 1:51Speaker 1: different area of the back than he had the surgery on.
- 1:54Speaker 1: And he's week to week, so we don't know how
- 1:55Speaker 1: long this is going to be. But he was the
- 1:57Speaker 1: guy that we felt good about. Okay, he's back. So
- 2:00Speaker 1: we lost Nick Skorton, but Jones is back. Now we
- 2:03Speaker 1: don't have either one. Like, how worried are you about
- 2:05Speaker 1: that Bears offense with those two edges out?
- 2:08Speaker 3: Yeah, especially, you know, first game, wanted to have rotational depth, obviously.
- 2:11Speaker 3: So it's going to bite into that. So guys like
- 2:13Speaker 3: Thomas Incomer are going to have to step up. But
- 2:15Speaker 3: I was talking yesterday after practice with Prince Lee, Amon Miellon, and,
- 2:18Speaker 3: you know, like Nick Skorton, that would have been taking
- 2:22Speaker 3: a big step up, I think, as far as first
- 2:23Speaker 3: year to second year.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Skorton would have been on that trajectory. I think with Princely,
- 2:27Speaker 2: same thing.
- 2:27Speaker 3: He's looked really good in camp and in the preseason
- 2:30Speaker 3: games when he's out there on the field for those
- 2:32Speaker 3: reps that he had there. So you got the players,
- 2:35Speaker 3: but again, you get into the depth of the game
- 2:37Speaker 3: and we'll see, you know, fourth quarter. When you're rushing
- 2:41Speaker 3: the quarterback, you know, for four quarters out there, you
- 2:43Speaker 3: want to have that rotational depth out there. And you
- 2:46Speaker 3: saw with Moon, they brought him onto the practice squad.
- 2:48Speaker 3: So obviously someone's going to fill the roster spot. We'll
- 2:51Speaker 3: see how they do that. come later in the week.
- 2:53Speaker 3: But that's a great way to start the season, I think,
- 2:55Speaker 3: is we have fun, entertaining games.
- 2:56Speaker 2: It is a fun matchup. I'll say one thing, Bo,
- 2:58Speaker 2: real quick.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Mike Kay did make a point, and this was before
- 3:03Speaker 1: Pat Jones' news came down, but he was saying that
- 3:05Speaker 1: Jeremiah Moon is seen as a better run defender on
- 3:08Speaker 1: the edge. than Cam Gill, because they dropped Cam Gill
- 3:11Speaker 1: off the practice squad. He's seen as more of the
- 3:13Speaker 1: pass rush specialist. And maybe because Pat Jones was going
- 3:17Speaker 1: to be one of those run-down defensive ends, maybe they
- 3:20Speaker 1: want Moon.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Maybe they're going to call him up this week. We'll
- 3:22Speaker 2: see if they work that way.
- 3:23Speaker 1: We'll see.
- 3:23Speaker 2: We'll see.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Zog, we envision this team being built and playing... kind
- 3:28Speaker 1: of like the Dan Morgan teams that he played on
- 3:30Speaker 1: with the defense-to-run game. An offense that may not be
- 3:33Speaker 1: spectacular but does enough. Is that sort of how you
- 3:36Speaker 1: see this playing out a little bit?
- 3:37Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems to know linebacker play pretty well.
- 3:40Speaker 3: Obviously, I think we all love the Bobby Okereke signing
- 3:42Speaker 3: to put on the inside with Devin Lloyd. So that
- 3:45Speaker 3: was just what the doctor ordered. And then it gives
- 3:47Speaker 3: you the depth, obviously, with Claude and Sheryl Lewis. I
- 3:49Speaker 3: think developmentally, on the 53-man roster with Jackson, Kuwach, I
- 3:53Speaker 3: think they like his potential. of what he can become
- 3:56Speaker 3: seventh-round pick out of Miami of Ohio. But as far
- 3:58Speaker 3: as having that front-line starting linebacker out there, I mean,
- 4:01Speaker 3: a guy that's 30 that's been in the.
- 4:02Speaker 2: League this long, that's an easy plug-and-play.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Of just a veteran guy that you need behind that
- 4:07Speaker 3: defensive front.
- 4:08Speaker 2: So I love it.
- 4:09Speaker 3: I like the way they've addressed and kind of attacked
- 4:11Speaker 3: this offseason, obviously with Phillips, mentioned Devin Lloyd. And then
- 4:14Speaker 3: in the draft, I think Lee Hunter, obviously a lot
- 4:16Speaker 3: expected right away because, again, depth issues with injuries there.
- 4:20Speaker 2: And then what will Lee? And I think Zachy Wheatley.
- 4:23Speaker 3: I mean, I think this is going to shape up
- 4:25Speaker 3: a really good draft class that as we get into
- 4:28Speaker 3: the season, that these guys, the rookie three I just
- 4:30Speaker 3: mentioned there, as they develop to go with the veterans
- 4:32Speaker 3: in there, hopefully it hits the ground running week one.
- 4:35Speaker 3: As we know, we're traditionally a slow starting team. We'd
- 4:38Speaker 3: like to not be this year, not go 0-2 to
- 4:40Speaker 3: start the season. But if we can hit the ground
- 4:42Speaker 3: running and then get everybody going in a couple weeks
- 4:45Speaker 3: here as far as you've got to give the rookies
- 4:46Speaker 3: a little bit of time. Same with Monroe Freeling at
- 4:48Speaker 3: right tackle. You've got to have a little grace that
- 4:50Speaker 3: there's going to be some plays missed out there. But overall,
- 4:52Speaker 3: if they can win a lot more than they lose,
- 4:54Speaker 3: they're being in shape.
- 4:55Speaker 1: We're talking with Jim Zoki, Panther Radio Network, since the
- 4:58Speaker 1: inception of the Dang franchise. Ladies and gentlemen, he is
- 5:02Speaker 1: an institution, and he is hanging out with us here.
- 5:04Speaker 2: We should be in one, maybe. Oh, that's what I meant.
- 5:08Speaker 2: I haven't checked my notes yet.
- 5:09Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to say.
- 5:10Speaker 2: I have to go back and attend.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Thank you to your coaches for letting me out. That's
- 5:15Speaker 1: some good self-deprecating humor. All right, let's go to this
- 5:18Speaker 1: matchup specifically. The offense has really been, I mean, not
- 5:21Speaker 1: that we haven't just slow started as a team lately,
- 5:24Speaker 1: but that offense, 10 points each of the last three years,
- 5:27Speaker 1: every year that Bryce has been here, I'm not blaming
- 5:28Speaker 1: it just on him, but like 10 points in each
- 5:30Speaker 1: of those games. But I look at the Bears matchup
- 5:33Speaker 1: and as scary as their offense can be, I look
- 5:35Speaker 1: at that defense and say, man, there's an opportunity against
- 5:39Speaker 1: that unit. to get off to a better start offensively.
- 5:42Speaker 1: I got my fingers crossed.
- 5:43Speaker 2: What do you think?
- 5:44Speaker 1: Is that kind of what you see? What do you
- 5:46Speaker 1: see with this matchup with the Bears? The Bears are interesting.
- 5:50Speaker 1: As you guys have, a lot of Bears stuff this week.
- 5:52Speaker 1: And they were the No. 1 turnover team last year.
- 5:54Speaker 1: They by far led the league in interceptions and takeaways.
- 5:57Speaker 1: But the yards and the points, the things that go
- 5:59Speaker 1: up on the scoreboard, the yards that lead to the
- 6:01Speaker 1: points and what they were doing, they knew they had
- 6:03Speaker 1: to revamp it. Dennis Allen, I have a lot of
- 6:05Speaker 1: respect for him as defensive coordinator. But it's kind of
- 6:07Speaker 1: like they've retooled it.
- 6:08Speaker 3: But then when they lost Kobe Bryant, I thought that
- 6:10Speaker 3: was big as far as losing that safety piece there.
- 6:13Speaker 3: So they've changed out to the point where like five
- 6:15Speaker 3: of their top six guys on defensive snaps last year
- 6:18Speaker 3: are gone through a trade or just different reasons why
- 6:21Speaker 3: they're not there released. So, again, everyone going into a
- 6:25Speaker 3: new season, you don't know exactly what they have. But
- 6:27Speaker 3: that clearly is, I would think, hopefully early in the season,
- 6:30Speaker 3: a weakness for them. I'm excited to see what Brad
- 6:32Speaker 3: Idzik does as play caller. I think he's going to
- 6:35Speaker 3: be like a general on defense. I think he's going
- 6:37Speaker 3: to be an aggressive play caller. So I don't think
- 6:38Speaker 3: everything's going to be a dink and dunk and West
- 6:40Speaker 3: Coast kind of type passing style. I think they'll take
- 6:42Speaker 3: their shots down the field.
- 6:43Speaker 2: And it'll be.
- 6:44Speaker 3: Interesting to see like Jimmy Horn with his speed. Obviously,
- 6:47Speaker 3: T-Mac up and running for a second season, hitting the
- 6:49Speaker 3: ground running for his second year. It'll be fun to see, again,
- 6:52Speaker 3: you want to establish the run and have that. But
- 6:54Speaker 3: also open it up and take it down the field
- 6:57Speaker 3: with some big chunk plays, hopefully.
- 6:58Speaker 1: What do you think of the Panthers' defense and how
- 7:00Speaker 1: they match up against the Bears' offense? Stopping them seems difficult,
- 7:05Speaker 1: but how do they at least slow them down to
- 7:07Speaker 1: give themselves a chance in this game?
- 7:09Speaker 3: I think here, too, I think Averro's got the ability
- 7:12Speaker 3: to not go crazy, but to move pieces around out
- 7:15Speaker 3: there in the secondary and bring them closer in. Obviously,
- 7:17Speaker 3: I talked about putting J.C. Horn in the slot. Trayvon
- 7:20Speaker 3: Merrick did really well as a box safety last year
- 7:22Speaker 3: at times. So you can show different looks and sometimes
- 7:26Speaker 3: fake as if you're blitzing and so forth. As much
- 7:28Speaker 3: as you might want to be aggressive, just to show
- 7:30Speaker 3: that look to get them thinking. And again, I was
- 7:33Speaker 3: talking with Prince Lee yesterday about this. He said it's
- 7:35Speaker 3: almost like a Sean McVay mentality with what Ben Johnson
- 7:38Speaker 3: and the offense does. A lot of shifts in motions
- 7:41Speaker 3: where they try to get you to show what you're
- 7:42Speaker 3: going to do defensively. A lot of pre-snap things. So
- 7:44Speaker 3: they have to be disciplined.
- 7:46Speaker 1: In that.
- 7:46Speaker 3: I think Ben Johnson made the comment he wants to
- 7:48Speaker 3: be the highest scoring team in NFL history.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Not this year, but I think in the history of
- 7:51Speaker 2: the NFL, I believe it was his comment. And win
- 7:53Speaker 2: every game and route to a Super Bowl title. Which
- 7:55Speaker 2: we all want.
- 7:56Speaker 1: He likes to ease into the season.
- 7:58Speaker 3: But he may have a better chance than some in
- 8:00Speaker 3: the league at being able to actually pull that off.
- 8:02Speaker 3: So it kind of gives you an idea of what that, again,
- 8:05Speaker 3: that McVay mentality of what they can do out there.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is coming off the highest passing season of
- 8:10Speaker 3: any yardage-wise, any quarterback in Bears history. Two dynamic running backs, obviously,
- 8:15Speaker 3: in there as well. And as we know, because every
- 8:17Speaker 3: year DJ Moore gets traded, they think Luther Burden's ready
- 8:21Speaker 3: to step up. So we'll see if he's ready to
- 8:22Speaker 3: step into that number two role. I don't know about
- 8:25Speaker 3: Roma Dunzey, what his foot situation is. Have we got
- 8:27Speaker 3: an update on him?
- 8:29Speaker 2: They said limited.
- 8:30Speaker 1: It's weird. They practiced Tuesday and were off yesterday. So
- 8:33Speaker 1: they did like an estimation type injury report, but they
- 8:37Speaker 1: said limited for him.
- 8:39Speaker 2: It sounds like he's probably going to play.
- 8:41Speaker 3: Yes, to some degree. So anyway, they're well-balanced. The tight ends,
- 8:44Speaker 3: like we talk about this every year. Can the Panthers
- 8:46Speaker 3: defense cover tight ends? They've got two good ones, especially Loveland.
- 8:49Speaker 3: So That's going to be the thing. Is this defense
- 8:52Speaker 3: prepared to not lead in the seams over the middle
- 8:54Speaker 3: with the tight ends?
- 8:55Speaker 2: It's got to be better with Ward here. It's got
- 8:58Speaker 2: to be better.
- 8:58Speaker 1: I heard Eric Mangini talking about this yesterday with Danny
- 9:01Speaker 1: Parkins because Danny Parkins on First Things First, a Bears fan.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Mangini likes the Panthers this year. And he was, in
- 9:07Speaker 1: this particular game, not just this season, he was asking
- 9:10Speaker 1: Danny Parkins, what did the Bears add on offense this offseason?
- 9:14Speaker 1: The answer is nothing. You lost D.J. Moore. You're hoping
- 9:17Speaker 1: that Loveland, if you're a Bears person, takes that leap.
- 9:20Speaker 1: But their receiving group, it's not very deep, by the way.
- 9:23Speaker 1: So a doomsday, if he's not in there healthy, that's
- 9:26Speaker 1: a big problem for them.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:27Speaker 1: They do not have a lot of wide receiver capital.
- 9:29Speaker 1: It is. That's true, man. That's definitely true. But their
- 9:31Speaker 1: run game, their tight ends are top notch. We got
- 9:35Speaker 1: Jim Zoki with us here for another minute or another
- 9:38Speaker 1: couple minutes or so. Zok, what do you think about Bryce?
- 9:41Speaker 1: We can't do a Panther interview without asking a Bryce question.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Do you need Dan Morgan's number? What do you need? What?
- 9:49Speaker 1: More on that later. That's a David Tepper press conference reference.
- 9:53Speaker 1: More on that later.
- 9:53Speaker 2: We'll let you hear it.
- 9:54Speaker 1: I have it, but I don't think he's going to
- 9:55Speaker 1: answer me on that one.
- 9:56Speaker 2: Tell me.
- 9:57Speaker 1: He didn't answer my question, Tepp. What's your feeling? I
- 10:00Speaker 1: feel like he's gotten better every year in this league.
- 10:04Speaker 1: and I feel like he will make another jump, but
- 10:07Speaker 1: it's just like, how big, you know what I mean?
- 10:09Speaker 1: How big is that jump? Like, is that similar? Like,
- 10:12Speaker 1: how do you kind of feel like Bryce is going
- 10:14Speaker 1: to play?
- 10:15Speaker 2: I think, you know, what you, what you said, he's
- 10:16Speaker 2: gotten better every year.
- 10:18Speaker 3: And I think, you know, Dave Tepper said this yesterday,
- 10:20Speaker 3: everyone's kind of, you know, on the same boat with
- 10:22Speaker 3: this like consistency. Like we've seen, it doesn't happen a lot,
- 10:25Speaker 3: but we've seen some of the 400, 350 yard passing games.
- 10:29Speaker 3: And I guess not about your fantasy stats, but, Then
- 10:31Speaker 3: you have one that's like 120, and the offense just
- 10:34Speaker 3: isn't moving. So you need more consistent performances from him.
- 10:38Speaker 3: And again, just with Brad Idzik in there, it'll be
- 10:41Speaker 3: interesting to see how they put him in the best
- 10:42Speaker 3: position to succeed with getting him where he has open
- 10:44Speaker 3: passing lanes. I think they're playing it exactly the right way.
- 10:48Speaker 3: Let it play out on the field. You don't have
- 10:50Speaker 3: to do it in advance. You can do it in
- 10:52Speaker 3: the timing that they're going for right now. Let's see
- 10:55Speaker 3: some more evidence on the field this year before you
- 10:57Speaker 3: commit a lot of salary cap space and years to
- 11:00Speaker 3: that position right again. part two of that is you,
- 11:03Speaker 3: if you don't, you have to have a solid plan.
- 11:06Speaker 3: You can't just be like, we're moving off of that.
- 11:08Speaker 3: And here we go with a mid to late first
- 11:10Speaker 3: round draft pick. Like we just had a similar season
- 11:12Speaker 3: to last year, something along those lines, because it's not
- 11:15Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett and it's developmental with Haynes King to see
- 11:18Speaker 3: him to be even a number two quarterback in this league.
- 11:20Speaker 3: So what are your realistic options of like, you know,
- 11:23Speaker 3: what would be the plan if you were to move
- 11:24Speaker 3: off that to find your starting quarterback? So That's the
- 11:27Speaker 3: two-part thing is like, yeah, you've got– sometimes you slow
- 11:31Speaker 3: play it and you look at what you got and
- 11:33Speaker 3: you have to make that evaluation. But on the other hand,
- 11:34Speaker 3: if you do make a big decision, where are you
- 11:37Speaker 3: going to go? Because as you can see, it can
- 11:39Speaker 3: also set you back if you don't have the right
- 11:41Speaker 3: guy that comes in as a replacement.
- 11:42Speaker 1: That's what I was saying earlier, Bone, and I know
- 11:44Speaker 1: you and I have talked about this too. Like there's
- 11:47Speaker 1: no guarantee if you go and say, we're going to
- 11:50Speaker 1: use a first-round pick, right? We're moving on from Bryce.
- 11:53Speaker 1: There's no guarantee he's as good as Bryce even, right?
- 11:56Speaker 1: Surely he could be better ultimately, and it could take time, right?
- 11:59Speaker 1: So that could set you back a little bit having
- 12:01Speaker 1: a rookie QB, but there's no guarantee. Look at Will
- 12:04Speaker 1: Levis and Anthony Richardson from his very same draft class.
- 12:07Speaker 1: You could get, you could draft that. No, 1,000% right.
- 12:12Speaker 2: That was an intense mm-hmm.
- 12:15Speaker 1: You really agreed with that.
- 12:16Speaker 2: I thought he was going to start texting somebody else.
- 12:18Speaker 1: I was into that one. No, that was my mm-hmm.
- 12:21Speaker 1: All right, Zug. What an honor for you. Thursday today.
- 12:26Speaker 1: I know.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Back in on Monday. We had the Labor Day holiday,
- 12:30Speaker 2: so we'll have the quick turnaround here.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Oh, ECU fans are asking about the App State matchup.
- 12:34Speaker 1: This is a weird one because I don't know what
- 12:37Speaker 1: we know about ECU because of what happened at Bama, right?
- 12:40Speaker 2: Because it's Bama on the road. And I don't know, even.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Though I was impressed by App State putting up 50-something,
- 12:46Speaker 1: winning by 50 as a 17-point favorite over Maine, it
- 12:49Speaker 1: was Maine.
- 12:50Speaker 2: I don't know what it means. Like, do you have
- 12:52Speaker 2: a feeling?
- 12:52Speaker 3: There was very little, you're right, there was very little
- 12:55Speaker 3: evaluation overall for An ECU team playing above their weight
- 12:59Speaker 3: class and then the same, as you said, in reverse,
- 13:01Speaker 3: App State at home against a team that's gone 16-32
- 13:05Speaker 3: over the last number of years under the coach they
- 13:07Speaker 3: have right now. So this will be, obviously, this will
- 13:10Speaker 3: be the closest barometer seeing what these two teams can do.
- 13:12Speaker 3: And in not only college football, in the group of
- 13:14Speaker 3: six in particular, like ECU had 14 players elevate up
- 13:18Speaker 3: to power four. So on top of graduations and everything else,
- 13:21Speaker 3: they've had so many players move up. It takes a
- 13:23Speaker 3: little while to get— you need game reps to figure out
- 13:26Speaker 3: exactly what you got. We're still not sure Mitch Griffiths,
- 13:28Speaker 3: what he can be at quarterback, and that's a very
- 13:30Speaker 3: important thing right now. I will say Singleton looked terrific
- 13:33Speaker 3: for App State. Malachi Singleton, again, understanding the competition, but
- 13:38Speaker 3: 22 out of 24 passing, three touchdowns.
- 13:39Speaker 2: So I think it's going to be a fun matchup.
- 13:41Speaker 3: Of course, it's in Greenville, so that's a little bit
- 13:43Speaker 3: of benefit to— Get those Mountain Boys out in the
- 13:46Speaker 3: heat out there a little bit.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Noon kickoff on a Saturday. Are you talking about the
- 13:49Speaker 2: fans tailgating? We got tailgate early, too. It's ECU favored
- 13:52Speaker 2: by 7.5.
- 13:52Speaker 1: 87% of the money right now is on ECU. But 75%
- 14:00Speaker 1: of the spread is being bet towards App State.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Seven and a half.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:04Speaker 2: I think I'd take the seven and a half. I'm
- 14:06Speaker 2: going back and forth on the game.
- 14:08Speaker 1: I think ECU is better, though. So I would go
- 14:11Speaker 1: ECU at home with the win.
- 14:12Speaker 2: It's an interesting matchup.
- 14:14Speaker 3: And then real quick, the ECU then goes on the
- 14:17Speaker 3: road with another Sunbelt Conference team at Old Dominion, which
- 14:19Speaker 3: won 10 games last year. I know the quarterback had
- 14:22Speaker 3: moved to Wisconsin. So it'll be interesting. I think it's
- 14:25Speaker 3: a barometer over the next two weeks for ECU. And again,
- 14:29Speaker 3: maybe sometimes when you start with a team like Alabama,
- 14:31Speaker 3: everything else should seem slower and easier. So it doesn't
- 14:33Speaker 3: guarantee victories. But the pace of the game, the tempo, again,
- 14:38Speaker 3: you couldn't get into a rhythm of any kind offensively.
- 14:40Speaker 3: This will allow, again, new play caller for us from
- 14:42Speaker 3: North Texas with Jordan Davis. the opportunity to get in
- 14:45Speaker 3: there and really work the offense and run it the
- 14:46Speaker 3: way they want.
- 14:47Speaker 1: That's a great point. Zoki, the voice of ECU football.
- 14:50Speaker 1: In case you're wondering, why are we asking Zoki? Zoki's
- 14:53Speaker 1: the voice of ECU football. In addition to the Panthers.
- 14:56Speaker 3: Adam Witten's not here to defend App State. You can
- 14:59Speaker 3: say whatever you want.
- 15:00Speaker 2: All right, Zoki.
- 15:01Speaker 1: Thank you, brother.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Enjoy it.