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- 0:22Good evening to everybody, and welcome to another attention of the sports of Chaine.
- 0:25My name is Scott Morgan on the Motor City mad Mouth has had a
- 0:28great show previous to this one. A long time South Florida sports media colleague
- 0:34of mine, Jeff before Jeff before us is as good as it gets.
- 0:37And I've known this guy a long long time and a lot of folks that
- 0:40had watch that show will certainly use it as an educational tool for sure.
- 0:45So but that said, I want to go out there and introduce my crew
- 0:48first and foremost. I'm at the top. Of course, he's always been
- 0:51at the top in a lot of ways with me. His name is Spencer.
- 0:53Tom said, Spencer is back. I gotta tell you hearing that music
- 0:59actually right one accused for the South Florida tribute intros that it gave me chills.
- 1:03It's like when you hear the Monday night football theme when you're about to
- 1:07get into a broadcast. But always appreciate you, Scott, glad to be
- 1:10here, considered a privilege. Every second I'm on the show. Very good
- 1:14and I'll tell you what you know what before we get well, we'll get
- 1:17introduce everybody then you're gonna give everybody a listen of bulldoze marketing. Okay,
- 1:19jam Ellis is back. Hey, what's going on everybody? All right?
- 1:26Another week? Another week? Here we go. Yeah, we got it.
- 1:30We got a loaded broadcast tonight. The best part about it, I
- 1:33don't have another one afterwards, so we'll go whatever time we need to go.
- 1:36All right. And George Icorn Okay, I know he's getting ancy to
- 1:40get on earlier, but he knows when you have a good interview out there,
- 1:42that should go out there and your roll with it. And that's exactly
- 1:45what we've done. So that's going on everyone. I hope it's a great
- 1:49show, which I'm sure it will be. All right. Well, okay,
- 1:53Spencer, why don't you give the audience a little bit of a lesson
- 1:56on bulldoze marketing and shoot out those stories. Well we told this a couple
- 2:00of times on the shows that Scott has been very gracious for me to come
- 2:05on. But let's tell you the Scott Morgan Roth method, or bulldozer marketing
- 2:08as it's as it's called. First time I met Scott was twenty twenty one
- 2:13in December for the National Sports Media Association Awards weekend, and Scott Morgan Roth
- 2:20was the first person that I met through that, and he wasn't afraid to
- 2:23meet anyone even if people are deep in conversation. And sometimes there are people
- 2:30who don't necessarily open up the circle to you NSMA, they open it up
- 2:34to you. But even when people are deep in conversation, Scott purposefully positions
- 2:38himself in that circle, sometimes waits for them to stop talking, or finds
- 2:44a lull in the conversation, or even joins into the conversation. And Scott
- 2:47will introduce himself to anybody, doesn't matter who they are, will say,
- 2:52here's my name, here's what I do. Would you subscribe to my YouTube
- 2:54channel? And that exchanges LinkedIn and email and own numbers at anything else on
- 3:00there, And through that, I was just telling the story. Before we
- 3:05went on the air, Scott was not due to health issues. He couldn't
- 3:08go to Winston Salem this past summer for the NSMA banquet, and I had
- 3:13several students with me from the University of Alabama chapter of the NSMA, and
- 3:17I knew what Scott not being there. I have to be the bulldozer.
- 3:23I have to be the one that goes through and we were at the Legacy
- 3:25Night and Lisa Salters had won Sideline Reporter of the Year for the NSMA,
- 3:30and we didn't know this until afterwards, but she was going to leave immediately
- 3:35after the ceremony because she had a flight to catch to get back to where
- 3:38she lives. And so we did what Scott has been successful at, which
- 3:44is strategic positioning. We got there maybe about fifty I think like twenty thirty
- 3:50minutes before people were supposed to start checking in at the dinner, and we
- 3:55positioned ourselves near the entrance where people would check in through that. Lisa Salters,
- 4:01Iron Eagle, other colleagues were walking in through there. But Lisa comes
- 4:05up, shake her hand, Introduce myself, introduce to the rest of the
- 4:09people around us. We talked a little bit about Monday Night football and asked,
- 4:12hey, can we get a photo with you? And she graciously agreed
- 4:15we did, and then we're sitting down at the front. We noticed she
- 4:20gets her award. The other awardies for Legacy Night got their awards, and
- 4:26right about when they were going to dismiss, Lisa's walking out with her son.
- 4:29She's got that flight to catch back So if if Scott Morganotha not taught
- 4:32me bulldozer marketing and had not taught me to introduce myself to other people without
- 4:38having any sort of fear for what's going to happen, then I wouldn't have
- 4:42got to have a photo with Lisa Salters, wouldn't have been able to meet
- 4:44her. So Scott looking forward to running it back this year, this time
- 4:46in Greensboro at the Grand Over Resort. Should be fun. Yeah, I'm
- 4:51looking forward to returning to the event. It's an event that I really enjoyed
- 4:54networking. Javell has plans to be there, and I think Jabella is gonna
- 4:59find out that I know, we've done a lot of stuff with the Super
- 5:01Bowl and other big events, and JB Ellis is an opportunity to meet his
- 5:05colleagues, and I think this will be an experience that jv Ellis will never
- 5:09forget. Will be wrong, JB, You're working at the super Bowl with
- 5:12nothing short of outstanding. It was. I've paid attention to what you were
- 5:15doing, but this is a different animal compared to what you're doing. And
- 5:18of course we're working our tails off to track at the NFL Draft. So
- 5:23jab you we're in a position to help maybe get sidelined sports, you know,
- 5:28another opportunity to meet more and more people to go with your growing lineup
- 5:31of excellent shows, and this opportunity in the next few months or so will
- 5:35be that type of opportunity. But that said, let me go over the
- 5:39top. Let me Spencer on here. Let's talk about George Iichorn. Glad
- 5:43to have you on. George. Oh, thank you. Good to be
- 5:46here man. It's a great show and a great lineup tonight. I know
- 5:48it always is, so it's good to be on. And last but not
- 5:53leaves mister Ellis himself. Yes, it's going to be a good night.
- 5:58I mean, I'm excited and well, got a lot to talk about.
- 6:00I see the name of the show. I think we're going to talk about
- 6:04your prediction, how it came true. You think we're gonna talk about our
- 6:09tradition. Mister Ellis, would you want what would you like to rephrase the
- 6:14word think other words? I'm going to hit you with a Jacob Christmer.
- 6:15Are you crazy? I'm not waiting to do that. I think that's what
- 6:19we're gonna do. That's my guess. No, I know that's what we're
- 6:24gonna do. And yeah, and because you said the word think you're going
- 6:27to lead off of this all right, I'm not into the I told you
- 6:30so, but tonight I am in the I told you So's Okay, Dusty
- 6:33May is a Michigan man I called it last Wednesday's show, and lo and
- 6:39behold word Manual, don't have to get fired because you got it right.
- 6:43I think the President Santa Oh, no, I believe that's the name of
- 6:46this guy, George. Okay, they both went ahead and identified Dusty me
- 6:50right away, and why not. All he did was lead FAU to a
- 6:55final four and what I call an Alan Michael's moment. Do you believe in
- 7:00miracles? Well, you nearly did. And while thus he signed a ten
- 7:03year contract, I knew he was gonna live out that deal. Got a
- 7:06million dollars to hang around and oh, he's gonna get three point seventy five
- 7:11million over five years to leave the Wolverine and that will turn into an extension
- 7:15at some point anyways down the road. I definitely do believe. Yes,
- 7:18I did predict it on this show last week that if Warden Manual did hire
- 7:24him, he should be fired. But Warden manual. I'll spare you the
- 7:27criticism. You got this hire right, that's what you did. So I'm
- 7:32just glad as act that I was able to make it last week, but
- 7:35the one. But it is a lesson though, I should let everybody know
- 7:39you have to follow your instincts when you go out there and make preditions.
- 7:44You don't make him with the sake that you're going to get clicks or constitute
- 7:46make news. You don't do that. You have to be closer to the
- 7:49situation and if you feel something fits, you do. And that's the reason
- 7:55I got that one right last week is because I knew number one and missig
- 7:58a job was too good to pass up. They're talking about arguably the biggest
- 8:03school in the country, which has a tradition that lasts over one hundred years,
- 8:07or football situation's unreal all time winning his program in Division one. Now
- 8:13new recent National champions basketball program is pretty good, but we all know football
- 8:18has came there, and Dustin May is leaving from a three thousand seat gym
- 8:22to what a thirteen thousand seat to me place that he calls the house that
- 8:28Kazi built. So all right, with that said, I'm done with what
- 8:31I had to say, Jesse Stuber, welcome, and you know what,
- 8:35Joe, He's going to be your Cubs guy in a moment. So so
- 8:41here you go. Jesse's in the chat room and I'm sure the rest of
- 8:43the bursting guys will fall into place. Thank you very much. All right,
- 8:48jb Ellis, give me here. Talks about the Dusty may hire.
- 8:52I said it last week. It was a good move forward. He's a
- 8:54great coach. The program needs a new direction. They got somebody that we'll
- 9:00be able to lead them. You know, good for him making the money,
- 9:03getting a better job, but a bigger university, that's what it's about.
- 9:07You know, you're coaching a smaller school. It stakes for the smaller
- 9:11schools that you know they get used as you go up the ladder by the
- 9:15athlete to the coaches. But you know, it says a lot about them
- 9:18that they can develop these guys and that's how they'll get the next person,
- 9:22the next stuff team at is by keeping producing. So you know, it's
- 9:26good for everybody in the in the sports world. And congratulations to a great
- 9:31move by Michigan. It's only going to get better for him as long as
- 9:33he keeps doing what he does. If you want to learn about Dusty May,
- 9:37all you need to do is go to the self orders from your YouTube
- 9:39channel. I had the opportunity to ask him many questions over the course of
- 9:43several press conferences. You won't find a better guy. He's forty seven years
- 9:46of age. If the would rings are looking for longevity, they're going to
- 9:48find it with Dusty May. Again, he's young. Players usually spend two
- 9:54three four years there. Anyhow, I don't see the reason to think that
- 9:56once at the NIL thing worked out, does he may won't be able to
- 10:01retain his players. He uses will use the transfer portal a lot more.
- 10:05He'll be able to use the ANIL money. So again, forty seven right,
- 10:09future, and now he's got a job that most people would cover it
- 10:15for sure. All right, George, right, turn, you're close to
- 10:16the situation. What is the area saying in terms of the Dusty May hire,
- 10:24Yeah, most people are pretty pleased with it right now, Scott,
- 10:26I mean the positive press I think came out of the press conference. I
- 10:31wasn't there at the press conference, but things were really happening very fast.
- 10:37Obviously. You know he's got a connection here way back in the day two
- 10:41thousand and five, two thousand and six, he was at Eastern Michigan University.
- 10:46And if some of your listeners and viewers don't know, Eastern Michigan is
- 10:52in Ipsilany, just a few miles away from ann Arbor. In fact,
- 10:54I think Dusty said that they lived in ann Arbor when he was coaching at
- 11:00Eastern Michigan. But that's all in the past. We know. Since then
- 11:05he went to Murray State and Louisiana Tech and you know UAB. He's just
- 11:11had a great, great series of stops, I think, and what he's
- 11:15done at FAU Scott. I mean, you've been tooting his horn for a
- 11:18long time as you're close to that program down there and that magical run you
- 11:24know that FAU had, you know, to the twenty twenty three final four,
- 11:28which nobody expected. I think that he's a great choice. I applaud,
- 11:33I really do. I applaud you know, President Ono and Mordemanul the
- 11:39athletic director, for getting it done so quickly. I mean, when you
- 11:43think about it, you know, they wrap things up so quickly after FAU
- 11:46was eliminated and didn't even really have too much time to breathe but things came
- 11:52together quickly. I'm sure there was some negotiating going on with the salary and
- 11:58stuff like that, but he's going to be a very positive influence I think
- 12:03on the campus and in that locker room, and it's just been unfortunately with
- 12:09Juwan Howard, it just was going nowhere the last couple of years. So
- 12:13I think it's a good move. And again, as I told you privately,
- 12:16Scott, congratulations because you picked this one right off the bat. Thank
- 12:20you. George jesse Stuber, how about Dusty Register And he's an old buddy
- 12:24of mine from a long time, and do good to know. I think
- 12:26I have some familiarity there. Jesse Stuber and jave Ella's are about to become
- 12:31buddies in due time because of the cub's connection with that said turnover to Spenser.
- 12:37How fitting is it that the Motor City mad Mouth made a correct prediction
- 12:41for the Dusty May to head closer and closer to the Motor City. I
- 12:50mean, it's just a storyline written waiting to happen. So fortunately in my
- 12:56position, I got my bachelor's and masters in Middle Tennessee State universe these so
- 13:00seeing the kind of I know Florida Atlantic was out the door with Conference USA
- 13:05before they had their magical run in last year's Final Four. But to still
- 13:09see Conference USA has got some decent basketball, and to show my true blue
- 13:13color is the only team to beat Florida Atlantic during that year, one of
- 13:16the few teams Middle Tennessee State in the regular season. So I'll just sport
- 13:20a brag about that. One of our colleagues, Tracy Woolson, actually expressed
- 13:26that she spent a lot of time watching and working with Dusty May during his
- 13:30run to the Final Four and during their loss in Brooklyn, and she she's
- 13:35excited to welcome him to the University of Michigan as well. And you mentioned
- 13:39at George of how he coached at Michigan and has his son in Double A
- 13:45as well, So it definitely was the right move. And I like what
- 13:48you said, George about how things move so quickly in those kind of situations.
- 13:54I mean, I know, you guys have talked extensively about coach Saban
- 13:58We're retiring, and then Kaylin Devoor getting hired by the University of Alabama.
- 14:01Only in college sports can it really happen that quickly, Because even in the
- 14:07NFL. When was the last time we saw a coach getting hired within the
- 14:11span of maybe forty eight hours or even that. It's such a long process
- 14:16to get to that point at the professional level, but in college you have
- 14:18a lot more of that flexibility to be able to move so quickly. And
- 14:22you're absolutely right, Scott in how why would he not apply for that job?
- 14:28Why would he not potentially take advantage of it if he had the opportunity
- 14:33to, Because sure, the goal is always to bring a national championship to
- 14:37the program you're working with, and sure you want to try and do the
- 14:41best for your team, But it's very parallel in the case of Kaylin de
- 14:46boor in a sense where, yes, where they going to bring a national
- 14:50championship back to their respective programs? Probably if they got the right guys and
- 14:56things were on the right kind of circumstance. But where's the better place that
- 15:00they have the opportunity to do that over other programs with the amount of money
- 15:03and resources and recruitment recruitment methods, especially with NIL being the wild Wild West
- 15:09nowadays and Calin de Boor is the University of Alabama for Dusty May is clearly
- 15:16the University of Michigan. So it's it's pretty special to you know, see
- 15:22this kind of come to fruition. But you know, it's always it's always
- 15:26good when even if you don't necessarily have insider info, it's good when you
- 15:30get to make these predictions and you actually turn out right. So I don't
- 15:33have a cap on like Scott does, but I tip my cap to the
- 15:37Motor City mad Mouth and getting it right. Thank you so much, Spencer.
- 15:41That means a lot hearing it from everybody, but especially you. Now,
- 15:43I will say this about Dusty May though last year, not the one
- 15:48that we just finished, the year former conference, he will say. But
- 15:50the thing is is he went ahead and oversaw the switch to the American Athletic
- 15:54Conference, and by doing that his team was able to finish second in the
- 16:00AAC and got the bid because number one incredible strength to schedule that involved beating
- 16:04the University of Arizona. So when you talk about what he did there and
- 16:10with a lot of his players coming back, I made a prediction last week.
- 16:14I thought that they beat Connecticut. Well, I don't mind eating humble
- 16:18Pie was wrong about that, But it's not the worst predition I've ever made.
- 16:21But the better one was later when he ended up getting hired at Michigan,
- 16:23calling me wrong, I'm gonna miss seeing him at FAU. But I
- 16:27also understand that I know he made the right move going to a place like
- 16:32Michigan, But this is an easy hire. Michigan identified that they wanted him
- 16:37right away, and they moved swiftly to get it done. And you know
- 16:41when you again, Ward Manuel, from when I hear John Beeline was a
- 16:45part of this process. Yes, so he was a part of it.
- 16:48And then to me, they just came down to his place in Fort Lauderville
- 16:52and met up with him. And when a guy like him feels wanted,
- 16:56let alone at an institution of that size, it was it came together fairly
- 17:02quickly. And I know that the Wolverines will be fine, you know,
- 17:06Juwan Howard, I think so. I think so. And Scott, I'm
- 17:08glad you brought that up about Beeline, because yes, he had. He
- 17:11played a big role in the in recruiting and and convincing Dusty to come and
- 17:18hats off the Bee line. Of course he's he's kind of like a free
- 17:22agent right now. He's not with the Pistons, anymore. He's not with
- 17:25the Cavaliers anymore. But boy, John is a great basketball mind, and
- 17:29and your rights got a Ward leaned on him to talk to him. Yeah.
- 17:33Well, the reality is that Juwan Howard oversaw the worst team in Michigan
- 17:37history, losing in many games they did. There was no way that he's
- 17:41going to retain that job. I mean, that's all they were. So
- 17:44you hate to see a guy like Phil Martelly leave. He had a lot
- 17:47of experience, But you know, Juwan Howard had a certain shelf life.
- 17:51He's no longer there. Dusty Mays gonna have a long shelf life with the
- 17:53Michigan Ward Wolverine. Well, I mean, I know the way they are.
- 17:57The guy operates great with the media, but more importantly, he'll do
- 18:03research on that university. He'll dissect everything he needs. And once upon a
- 18:07time he took that FAU jump, thinking oh God, did I make the
- 18:08biggest mistake in my life. He stuck it out and turned it into a
- 18:12winner. Never had a losing season at FAU, so Michigan knew what they
- 18:17were getting. If you can take a plate program like FAU to the final
- 18:21four, please tell me votes if that doesn't catch your attention, and I
- 18:26don't know what well, I mean, the ultimate David Goliath. Then they
- 18:32should have been against Connecticut last year. But san Diego's take out the best
- 18:34of them. All right. Well, with any closing thoughts from any of
- 18:37you about Dusty may headed a michion. I'll leave it wide open for this.
- 18:41I guess the only thing I will say is that if you haven't already
- 18:45listened to the interviews that Scott has done here on the south floor, distribute
- 18:49with Dusty may take take a listen to him. It's uh. Scott certainly
- 18:55knows how to ask the right questions that come out. He knows how to
- 18:57interview pretty well. But when you listen to the conversations that Dusty has,
- 19:02you really get an insight into the type of coach he is, the type
- 19:04of father he is, the man he is. And maybe you could have
- 19:08dissected some stuff there and thought, well, why is he at FAU.
- 19:11He could have he could be at some other big university, So you might
- 19:15pick that up in some of the some of the conversations that that Scott was
- 19:18able to have. Thank you, Spencer, I appreciate that. All right,
- 19:22Well, let's go on to the National Football League, Okay, And
- 19:25I'll tell you, I guess it's only fitting that Spencer's on this show anyway,
- 19:29because he's a guy that would you know, I kind of build the
- 19:32shows around the people I put on here. So let's go about the NFL.
- 19:33And that's a're definitely gladdings on this one as well as any other one
- 19:37he wants to come on. But the NFL announces two exclusive streaming games for
- 19:41the twenty twenty four season, including one postseason game. Pecock NBC. The
- 19:47Universal will exclusively stream the Week one game in Scio Apollo, Brazil on February
- 19:52Friday, September sixth. This contest as the NFL's first ever regular season game
- 20:00in South America and will also mark the first Friday night game on opening weekend
- 20:06in over fifty years. The Philadelphia Eagles is the designated team. Now Prime
- 20:11Video, already home to Thursday Night Football, will stream a wildcard game this
- 20:18season. It will be the second time a playoff game have been available exclusively
- 20:23by a streaming service. We all know that after last season's wildcard game between
- 20:29the Miami Dolphins and the Kansas City Chiefs on Peacock where a lot of those
- 20:34local markets were able to watch it for free, where everybody else had to
- 20:37go with it. So, Spencer, you know what, I'm going to
- 20:40lead off with you on this one. Obviously we know how much you're involved
- 20:44with INNSMA, but obviously you're teaching broadcasting and media over at the University of
- 20:48Alabama. What's your take on this? So I think a lot less people
- 20:55are going to be frustrated with Prime being the exclusive home of a playoff game
- 20:59is compared to Peacock because it pretty much you walk around with most people on
- 21:03the street and a whole lot of people are There are more people, I
- 21:07would argue, that have subscriptions to Amazon Prime and have Prime Video included with
- 21:11that than those who have subscriptions to Peacock separately. It's you know, I
- 21:18think the NFL is doing the right thing and testing the waters as much as
- 21:23there were. I actually, a couple of weeks ago in my class,
- 21:26I did all right. I asked the class, all right, show of
- 21:30hands, how many of you were frustrated that Peacock was the exclusive streaming home
- 21:36of an NFL wild card game. About half the class had their hands raised,
- 21:40and I said, all right. How many of you canceled your subscription
- 21:44after the playoff game was over? A couple of them, A couple of
- 21:47them had their hand had their hands up, some of them. But the
- 21:51NFL and NBC made the right decision on that, because Peacock retained about thirty
- 21:57three percent of its subscribers after that playoff game solely from those who subscribed,
- 22:03which you could say, well, that's still like sixty seven percent of people
- 22:07who didn't sign up. Guess what thirty three percent of say that even the
- 22:11base subscription of five bucks, that's a lot of money. That's a decent
- 22:15amount of money to keep people in your streaming service in that regard, and
- 22:18I think I appreciate and feel it was needed for Roger Goodell to say it
- 22:23is Super Bowl press conference that in my lifetime we will not see a Super
- 22:29Bowl exclusively on a streaming platform, because that gives people a much needed glad
- 22:34we're not having to deal with that at this point. But I think I
- 22:37think people are still gonna watch it. Like as much as people will complain
- 22:41about streaming services and how it's cable with extra steps and it's too much money
- 22:45on these things for those who don't know. The United States actually has a
- 22:51rule that was enacted back in the seventies or a media law that if any
- 22:56NFL team that is playing, you have to syndicate it on an over the
- 23:03air local affiliate for the teams that are playing. So I know the opponent
- 23:07hasn't been announced for the Philadelphia Eagles hosting that game in South Paulo, but
- 23:11in Philadelphia or in the markets that get the Philadelphia Eagles, it will be
- 23:15on a local television affiliate, whether it's NBC, CBS, Fox, or
- 23:19ABC, so you'll find some way to watch it. And the other thing
- 23:22people don't realize is that you don't have to subscribe. You can go to
- 23:27your local sports bar because even if it's on a streaming service like Prime Video
- 23:33for example, with the playoff game, DirectTV has the rights to distribute the
- 23:38game commercially, so you could go to Buffalo Wild Wings And as far as
- 23:42I'm aware, they're not going to charge you a cover going to these bars
- 23:45because it's included with their cable business subscriptions, or as far as i've earn,
- 23:49it's only with like UFC and WWE pay per view inns. That's the
- 23:52only thing you have to worry about. So it's so anyone who has this
- 23:56notion of well, I'm not gonna be able to watch the game, it's
- 23:59like, no, you could just go out in public or go to some
- 24:02commercial business that'll have it available to them. But I think it's I think
- 24:06it's good. I think it's a good thing with going on the streaming side
- 24:08of things, not just for the changing media landscape with how I think it
- 24:14was twenty twenty two Nielsen released that finally there are more people watching on streaming
- 24:21services than there are cable or traditional cable markets. So we're we're at that
- 24:26point as the society now where the traditional cable package is dead and we're in
- 24:30the streaming kind of era in this sort of regard. So I think I
- 24:33think it's a good thing, and especially with the playoff game for Peacock getting
- 24:37about I think it was thirty three million viewers, which is still pretty good
- 24:41for wild Guard playoff games. So I think it's a good thing. It'll
- 24:45be interesting to see how how it all shakes out this fall. Okay,
- 24:48all right, Jesse Scuber, all right, JB paying attention to this and
- 24:52you can answer the question. I'm gonna shake Caugo Cubs guy. My advice
- 24:55to you, mister ellis take the guy his first name, his last name,
- 24:57write it down, playing them on Facebook, and you have yourself somebody
- 25:02for confidential, so you have a right front of shoe. Go ahead.
- 25:04He's somebody that can definitely help you out. Jesse Stuber, you see a
- 25:07lot of JZ on a lot of our shows. With that said, JV,
- 25:11go ahead, let's take get your take on the NFL's most recent move
- 25:15to go with these two streaming games. Listen, it's the way that the
- 25:21games are going. This is the new toy. You know. The streaming
- 25:25services are trying to bring in money, and to bring in money, you
- 25:29need the best, the best thing to put on there, which is the
- 25:33NFL. Everybody wants to watch NFL football. It's the highest ratings, highest
- 25:37rate sports in America. So in order to get the subscribers, you have
- 25:41to have the best programming, and the best programming is the NFL, the
- 25:45best live programming. So for the streaming services, it makes sense they're gonna
- 25:49pay the NFL a boatload. They're gonna get a boatload of subscribers. And
- 25:53for the casual fan, the odds are most people have this service already.
- 25:59Spencer made it perfectly clear what the rule and the law is. As far
- 26:02as if you're in the local market, you don't miss out of the game,
- 26:06which is really all that matters. If you live in New York and
- 26:08you want to watch the Philly game, yeah you can get the streaming service.
- 26:11There's nothing wrong with that. But if you live in Philly, I
- 26:15can understand maybe you can't afford the the eight dollars. I respect that.
- 26:18I don't talk about other people's money, but you know, they at least
- 26:22have that right to watch the game, and I'll get to watch it over
- 26:26the air, So there's nothing wrong with that. But if you're out of
- 26:29market, it's like any other sport. You can't watch games when you're out
- 26:30of market. I can't just go turn on, you know, the Yankee
- 26:34game. Living in Chicago, I have to buy a subscription of something or
- 26:38get some sort of service. It's the same thing, and there's nothing wrong
- 26:41with it. The NFL is just, you know, do what they're going
- 26:45to do to make money and survive it. This is how you know you
- 26:47can pay ridiculous salaries. The guy named Daniel Jones for forty million dollars.
- 26:52You know, so you got to have a reason to get that money.
- 26:55You know, it's not going to grow in trees, but we just converted
- 26:57it. Yeah. Great. The owners of the Giants, they could have
- 27:03went a couple of miles down the road Atlantic City red or black and they
- 27:07could have kept saquad or lost Dangel Jones. Either way it would have been
- 27:11you know, good or the same, because Dangiel Jones really is at a
- 27:15quarterback, Scott, you can go out there and play if you just as
- 27:21well. Thanks a lot, Joe, I've got a Daniel Jones reference in
- 27:25there. I'd like to think you though, my knees are butting up,
- 27:26like everything else is bust it up. You know, I can get out
- 27:30there and plays once upon a time. But I appreciate the conference mister Ellis
- 27:33has in me. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Yeah, with
- 27:37all my Jimpy knees and all that business, I'd like to think I could
- 27:41play. But you know that you ever heard that thing Joe called father time?
- 27:47That's all right. The rules are in your favorite out. If you're
- 27:48a quarterback, you can't be touched or you'll be fire. Oh, I'll
- 27:52tell you what. You're gonna be my agent the next time I go out
- 27:53there and sign up for what he did. All right, mister Ellis,
- 27:56not that you're you're already on speed dial. I can't unless the technology conquers
- 28:02up something else. Okay, you're on feed dow. But now Joe Ellis
- 28:04have been hired as my agent. Okay, so get it done. Hey,
- 28:10listen, tell you what who's that hefty lefty quarterback many years ago?
- 28:14Was that oh gosh, oh they got to test away? Right? Yeah?
- 28:18Right? Is that Jared Lorenz And I think it's a d I believe,
- 28:21so I believe he play quarterback. Maybe I should come out of retirement.
- 28:23Of course, I don't think you get to miss is the buy into
- 28:26that? Good luck? Thinking that was Devino was quarterback? For how long
- 28:30you'll be hind first DeVito? You'll be first stringing in no time. I
- 28:37am known as a giant fan. I annoyed you starting quarterback. We don't
- 28:40even need to talk to anybody. We'll just we just drive up to East
- 28:44Rutherford. We put you on the field. We're good. Okay, Well,
- 28:47don't where to make that happen. We'll make that happen. By the
- 28:49way, in the next four months, I am negotiating to try to get
- 28:52a van for us here, so we'll go from there. But I'll get
- 28:56up there. I'll do the Hey, listen, you and I got to
- 28:59do some stuff up to New York. Anyway, as the alliance between the
- 29:02Sidelines, Sports and southwork to me and continues to grow a lot more,
- 29:06well turn over to I Corn than Candy is going to give us the station
- 29:08break go ahead. Well, yeah, I mean, you guys have pretty
- 29:12much said everything needs to be said. I mean, obviously the changing times
- 29:18are change in very, very fast. Doesn't surprise me at all that they
- 29:22designated these two days, these two games. The only problem I have,
- 29:26I mean, the first time you go on to the South America, I
- 29:30would have preferred to have been on network television because that's the first time ever.
- 29:37But I understand it's a big business, and like you guys said,
- 29:41they're they're there to pave the way for the future, and especially the young
- 29:45people nowadays are all into streaming. So that doesn't surprise me. I really
- 29:49think that the NFL is going in that direction, but it's taking baby steps,
- 29:56you know. It didn't say we're doing half the game streaming. No,
- 29:59it's nothing like that yet, but they're taking baby steps and there's natural
- 30:03progression after they did the Miami KC game in the playoffs. So I think
- 30:08it's a good thing. Things will work out. And as long as they
- 30:11can protect the whole market, the home city of the franchise that's hosting the
- 30:17game, for example, the two markets that they can still put it over
- 30:21the air, that does make a big difference in my mind to help those
- 30:25people that some still do not have either Internet or they don't have streaming capabilities.
- 30:30So that's about all I got to add. But no, it's it's
- 30:33an interesting topic. Okay, we're gonna turn over a candy. George.
- 30:38I have to say that I agree with you though, for the first time
- 30:41you're going into a South American country, that it would be nice for that
- 30:45to be shown for everybody to see, you know, seeing the sites,
- 30:51because they always do, like show the sites, they show different fans see
- 30:56what teams they're sporting. You know. I agree for that one. I
- 31:00agree that and get I agree that streaming is the wave of the future.
- 31:04But the issue is is you're not streaming to just one platform. You're streaming
- 31:08on a bunch of different You're streaming on Amazon Prime and you know, Peacock,
- 31:14and they're different ones. So now, how many streaming services do you
- 31:17need to subscribe to because of that? Yeah? So, I but Spencer,
- 31:23I know you want to say something too. Yeah, one thing on
- 31:26that. I think Major League Soccer has paved the way for what future sporting
- 31:30leagues are going to look like. I thought with the launch of NFL Plus
- 31:34that the NFL was going to start going to that point, which they are,
- 31:38because if you're subscribed to NFL Plus, at least on your tablet or
- 31:41smartphone, you can watch pretty much every game local in market, YouTube TV's
- 31:48Sunday Ticket, You're able to watch stuff out of market on any device.
- 31:52At this point that the challenge is it all comes down to money. You
- 31:56could bet that probably in the negotiation tables, with the contracts that were stipulated
- 32:01in the last media agreement for the NFL with their four or five respective partners,
- 32:07you could bet that when they said, hey, I think we want
- 32:09to get Prime the playoff game this year, NBC saying well, what do
- 32:13we get exclusive? And imagine I think it's I think it's better that they
- 32:17chose this game for Peacock Exclusive instead of Thanksgiving Night, but I think it's
- 32:23also it's also interesting to think about Paramount Plus hasn't gotten signed to that yet,
- 32:30so I wonder because they are dual casting CBS games, so I wonder
- 32:36when CBS Viacom will push on that. But one thing I realized that it's
- 32:39going to be lost in this. This is the final year of Al Michael's
- 32:44contract with Amazon Prime Video, so he's going to be calling a playoff game
- 32:47again. And for those who looked at social media, and I don't bash
- 32:52my colleagues, but social media has said that they do not like the energy
- 32:55that Al brings a Thursday night football, So I wonder how that that's going
- 33:00to play out to have Michael's back of the playoffs again, especially because people
- 33:02were very critical of his performance with Tony Dungee a couple of years ago with
- 33:07that miracle comeback that the Jaguars had against the Chargers. So it's interesting times
- 33:13in the National Football League, which, by the way, Spencer Candy and
- 33:15I did cover that came to Chargers in the all Right Candy take it away.
- 33:22Okay, if you have not heard yet, Scott wrote this book,
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- 35:53I should point out Candy Eveling did a masterful job putting Sideline Sports website
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- 36:05little footnote on the Xavier Strepo interview that's gotten over two thousand views on YouTube.
- 36:13So you know, I three and a half minute interview got an awful
- 36:16lot of eyeballs out there, and those numbers all lie went there again.
- 36:22Then it sometimes in social media and all this stuff season to it. Maybe
- 36:24I'm still trying to figure it out. My man Jefter Forrest was doing it
- 36:28too, said two guys, but we're embracing it. It takes those old
- 36:31guys a little bit longer to do it. I corny classifying as one of
- 36:34those chapter four y. You know, we're just donning our day. We
- 36:39remember with South Florida Walls, once upon a time when you only had three
- 36:43team, the Strikers or Hurricanes and the Dolphins, and now I look what
- 36:45you got. Never mind will go okay, all right, well, you
- 36:49know, I guess probably do it the right guy. In the show tonight
- 36:51with George Aycorn because I can't give my hard time about menaging Michigan topics because
- 36:57I have a couple, but they happen to be good ones. We're going
- 37:00to talk about Jack Goldkie went crazy in the eighty to seventy six upset win
- 37:07over Kentucky. Has thirty two points, ten of them were three pointers,
- 37:12and he had a rebound. And when you compare the coaches of those two
- 37:16schools, Greg Campy makes a three hundred and thirty thousand dollars not bad amount
- 37:22of money if you can get it, or John Caliperry getting eight point five
- 37:27million dollars for Kentucky. Now, when you talk about the powerful nature of
- 37:32social media, get this. Goldkie had five hundred followers on verified Thursday and
- 37:40then to beat Kentucky after that three point barrage on Friday at pointy thousand,
- 37:46six hundred verified subscribers. You talk about the power of success, social media
- 37:52explosion. That was at all right, JB. I gave you a lot
- 37:57to think about between the coach and salaries and social media. But does Jack
- 38:00Goldkie definitely put Oakland on the man they get from there? First of all,
- 38:07That's what March Madness says guys like Golkie doing crazy things that they wouldn't
- 38:13do normally, stepping up, seeing a team like Oakland, not in California,
- 38:17in Michigan, showing up and beating Kentucky, who has been awful the
- 38:22last five tournaments. If I'm correct, and you know, Cali Perry,
- 38:25why he still has a job, I don't know. You know, he's
- 38:30not doing a very good job getting his team to advance in the tournament.
- 38:34He has the advantage of getting top rank talent every year, but they just
- 38:39they can't seem to win in the tournament, you know, and if you
- 38:43lose into Oakland, which is great, it's a great story because this year
- 38:45has been a very shalky tournament hasn't been too many upsets. So the Oakland
- 38:51story was great. NC State's another great story. But yeah, you compare
- 38:54the difference in salary, you compare the difference in money. That's the school
- 39:00have the basketball programs. This is a phenomenal thing to see a team like
- 39:04Oakland. When when you see a guy like Golkie go crazy with ten threes,
- 39:08that's phenomenal, and it's you know what, It's an experience they'll never
- 39:12forget because he's not gonna play in the NBA. You know this, this
- 39:15is his big moment. Where the guys at Kentucky they're gonna play in the
- 39:20NBA. They're gonna have bigger moments. This was his his night, and
- 39:23that's why we watched the tournament. Joe, I'll give you a thirty three
- 39:28million reasons why Cali Perry kept his job. Okay, you know what that
- 39:32is? Thirty three million dollars and that's what his buyout is this year.
- 39:37So next to Kentucky, they got they got plenty it. It's not a
- 39:39bunny thing. Well, we're not talking about you know, Seaton Hall.
- 39:45Kentucky's got enough money in their program. That's that they don't want to pay
- 39:50the money, but they have it. Okay, sounds good, all right,
- 39:54Spencer, what do you think about mister Goldie? I think JB kind
- 39:59of a drug a trusted on the money side of things. Where his contract
- 40:02is requires he has to be owed seventy five percent of it, which translates
- 40:06to thirty three million dollars. They probably have the money on standby, they
- 40:09don't want to pay it because they want to put it into other things in
- 40:13that circumstance, but anytime somebody gets upset, upset talks about March madness or
- 40:17any type of upsets or whatever, I just tell them, well, if
- 40:21you look, if you look at the following sample here and cue the March
- 40:23madness theme from CBS Turner, because it JB. Did you clarified it perfectly.
- 40:29It's March madness. These type of upsets happen all the time. Now.
- 40:34I have a friend of mine who is a devout Kentucky fan, football,
- 40:37basketball, any of those sports, you name it, and he has
- 40:40been of the opinion and this is his that I think I could kind of
- 40:45see. His opinion is that, well, we have these great players with
- 40:47Kentucky right that are bound to go to the NBA, at least several of
- 40:52them. They'll go to the NBA. They realize they're about to get contracts
- 40:55or they're going to be signed. So what reason do they have to put
- 41:00their bodies on the line in March madness and go fully through it and risk
- 41:04getting injured and not getting those contracts. So his opinion has always been,
- 41:08well, what's the point of us trying in March madness. We're gonna get
- 41:12paid millions of dollars to put our bodies on the line. Why do we
- 41:15do this in Kentucky? And Nil has kind of helped alleviate that in some
- 41:20circumstances, but not a whole lot. I was talking to my sports announcement
- 41:23class about this too. It hasn't happened. I think this is maybe the
- 41:28seventh or eighth time in March Madness history on the men's bracket where the number
- 41:32one and number two seeds for every for every region have made it to the
- 41:38sweet sixteen. Now, it's happened recently, I think in twenty one maybe
- 41:43or twenty nineteen. It happened at least in more recent years, but before
- 41:46that, it hadn't happened since the eighties. So this is a very abnormal
- 41:51bracket that we're seeing. Yeah, sure, there's not as many upsets that
- 41:54we're seeing. I mean, Oregon busted everybody's bracket and Kentucky getting upset us
- 42:00busted a lot of brackets. But this is where we're seeing some of the
- 42:02greatest basketball that's happening. Will we see the number one seeds go to the
- 42:07final four? I don't know. It seems to me like there's gonna be
- 42:10at least one upset Purdue, but there's gotta be at least one upset that's
- 42:16snuck in there in summer guards. But I just you know, I love
- 42:21March Madness. I love basketball, And shout out to our colleague Andrew Catalan,
- 42:25who's gonna call his first Sweet sixteen and Elite eight matches with Jim Nantz
- 42:30retiring, Andrew Catalan and Steve LAPAs getting promoted to that kind of fourth crew
- 42:36for the Sweet sixteen at Elite eight, so that part is special as well.
- 42:38But I just I love watching March Madness, both the men's and women's
- 42:43side. I know we're talking about the men's in this point, but they
- 42:45always just produce such such great content. Well, it's amazing how you bring
- 42:50up Laughis and Catalan because they were at the FAU Memphis game, which,
- 42:53by the way, I was at over at They call it the La Center,
- 43:00eleanor Baldwin, but I always say if the arena because I haven't quite
- 43:04figured it out cabling. By the way, men just gold Mark at Yeah,
- 43:07they're the number two seed for you know those what's that three Big East
- 43:15teams we played after this weekend. Yeah, they had a good run.
- 43:20Why Saint Johns gun in as anybody's guess. But but yeah, right exactly
- 43:27there deals with Fox, CBS has the other has the A c C and
- 43:32you know things like that. I think that had a lot to do with
- 43:35it. Look at it really afterwards, Yeah, I do, because the
- 43:38Big East, they haven't gotten the teams like they usually get the last couple
- 43:43of years. Their deals with Fox Fox is it with the tournament. CPS
- 43:46has the SEC you know, and a lot of the other conferences. And
- 43:52when you look at the teams that are getting it, that could play a
- 43:54part in it. You know, intriguing, never heard of before. But
- 44:00I can see where you're coming from. I George, Well, you know,
- 44:04Greg Campy. Hats off to coach Campy. I mean he's well known
- 44:07obviously where I live in the state of Michigan. Forty years. This man
- 44:13has been living and breathing college basketball for forty seasons. And I'm telling you,
- 44:19you know, they've only made the NCAA Tournament a handful of times,
- 44:22but this one really really put Oakland University on the map. It's a very
- 44:30very disappointing Kentucky team this year. But I give all the credit word's due,
- 44:36you know, Jack like he you know, he's not even the leading
- 44:37scorer. He's a second leading scorer in the regular season for the Oakland Golden
- 44:44Grizzlies. But this is a kid that came from Hillsdale College and you know,
- 44:49Scott and I remember this because they were in the same league as Wayne
- 44:52State University, and you know the Gleiac. It's called the Gleiac And this
- 44:58is an amazing story. He came over for one one season only to Oakland
- 45:01and did a masterful job as a ballplayer. And it's funny when CBS.
- 45:07I don't know if you caught it, but the pregame show last Saturday,
- 45:12just after twelve noon, or maybe a little before, but anyways, they
- 45:15interviewed Jack next to Greg and you know, Greg says, well, yeah,
- 45:20this kid next to me here, he won't go in the NBA.
- 45:23He'll be selling insurance next year. And everybody laughed the whole studio. It
- 45:28was a great line by Campy and it just goes to show you that,
- 45:31yeah, I mean, we're not lining up to go into the NBA.
- 45:36Any of these players mostly from the Horizon League, which is where they come
- 45:40from. But yeah, they won the regular season. They had a great
- 45:44year Oakland, they won the tournaments, so they got the automatic bid and
- 45:47it was wonderful. I mean, they've done a great job. And like
- 45:51I said, hats off to Campy. He's just a baller. I mean
- 45:53when it comes to coaching these guys, he just loves it, you know.
- 45:58And he loves golfing too. But he had to delay his golfing a
- 46:01little bit by advancing his team the into the what is it round of thirty
- 46:08two? Round of Yeah. Anyways, it was a great It is still
- 46:13a great story and it's done a lot for his program, and hats off
- 46:17to him. It was great. Great watching that game and great for that
- 46:22kid to get ten three points. Unbelievable. All right, well, you
- 46:25know what, Georgie, we're going to segue to the final topic of the
- 46:29night. We're gonna start off with you, and I'll tell you why we're
- 46:31gonna start off with you, George, Because what Oakland spent on men's basketball
- 46:36in twenty twenty three, we're going to compare in contrast Oakland and Kentucky.
- 46:39The Oakland Golden Grizzlies spent two point three million dollars this year versus Kentucky twenty
- 46:45three point six million dollars. Okay, all right, George, what's your
- 46:51take on that. I mean, that's a bit of a difference, there
- 46:53isn't it. Oh Gosha well a gb says, I mean they got so
- 47:00many deep pockets there in Kentucky. I mean that's a blue bread and blue
- 47:04blue ribbon, blue bread whatever school, and they're one that has to be
- 47:08in the final for every single season, despite the nonsense of Caliperry not of
- 47:15getting them there. That's their goal obviously every year. Yeah, the Oakland
- 47:20University, if people don't know, it's a it's a very well to do
- 47:23suburb here in metro Detroit. It's a city called Rochester. Actually part of
- 47:29the campus is in Rochester and part of it's in Auburn Hills, which you
- 47:34may remember was the home of the Detroit Pistons when they played at a place
- 47:37called the Palace. So anyways, you got this school that really is a
- 47:42They really specialize in what I call professionals, you know, white collared professional
- 47:47that type of education, you know, undergraduate master degrees. But these guys
- 47:52are these these kids are pretty darn smart. So they don't have a football
- 47:55team. It is their bread and butter the men's basketball team. They have
- 48:00other sports as well. But Oakland University, Yeah, there that that really
- 48:06shocked me when I heard that, Scott. But uh, there's obviously no
- 48:08comparison to how much money it's spend in Kentucky. But I tell you what,
- 48:13they they certainly made the most of their money at Oakland. I mean
- 48:16they have, I mean when they got this far. And they also have
- 48:20a situation where they've got a really unique gym that oh O Arena. It's
- 48:25called if you guys haven't seen it, it's like a gold for very unusual
- 48:30color for a for a hard court, and it's it's a goldish. Their
- 48:35colors are gold and black that the team colors. But yeah, it is
- 48:38a it is. It is a remarkable statistic. I'm glad you brought it
- 48:44up. But I don't think that, Uh, the smaller schools may never
- 48:49catch up. But boy, when they get their their shining moment and they
- 48:52took advantage of it. Let me give it a little bit of information about
- 48:55Oakland University. First of all, Blake Close, glad you made it.
- 48:59What's going on? How we're talking college basketball, NFL and dustyam May So
- 49:02that's what we've talked about so far. First of all, I actually contemplated
- 49:06getting a master's degree at Oakland University. And I remember back in the days
- 49:10when I went to the University of South Florida, all we had was the
- 49:14basketball program, not the football program, and our homecoming was over at the
- 49:19basketball games. I'm sure that the same thing holds true for Oakland University.
- 49:22Their homecoming is probably the basketball game, and they should. But it's a
- 49:27great academic institution. I could kick the tires about getting a master's degree,
- 49:31but when I kept talking some of my colleges and Metro Detroit, they said,
- 49:36yeah, you don't really need a master's degree and mass communications to go
- 49:39deeper into the business. But I did kick the tires on it, and
- 49:43I was thinking about heavily going. So it's a great school. I'm glad
- 49:45they had a little bit of a run there in NC State was way too
- 49:49much for them. But fact of the matter, and besides, you never
- 49:52know, Jack Goldkie can be a second round pick for anybody. You know,
- 49:55it's a low risk pick. Anyway, you might find yourself another three
- 50:00point specialists out there. I've seen crazier things happen in the NBA Draft,
- 50:05which we get a birth of European players for sure. So but that said,
- 50:09I'm gonna turn it over to Spencer. You know, it's especially when
- 50:15it comes down to money, essentially, with Kentucky spending ten times that amount.
- 50:20It certainly the obvious answer is that the SEC just means more. I
- 50:23mean, you can define that by athletic competition and money spent and campus prestige
- 50:30and all of that. But I like what George pointed out, and some
- 50:32of these arenas you would not know about them until they get their one shining
- 50:38moments, like you wouldn't even think about a kind of goldish tint on a
- 50:44court or anything along those lines. But I think it's that's the beauty of
- 50:49March Madness. The College Football Playoff doesn't really have that because there, because
- 50:53it's now. I mean, we'll see how it plays out with the twelve
- 50:55team playoff and the expansion of the conference champions and things like that, but
- 51:00it's still it's still not you know, not as you know, not as
- 51:07large, and I would argue not necessarily as equitable as the NC Double A
- 51:12tournament goes, because at least with the with March Madness, you have teams
- 51:16that even if your season was terrible, you are the last seed in your
- 51:22conference tournament. If you go on a run and win the conference championship,
- 51:24you're automatically into the NC Double A tournament. With college football, even Alabama
- 51:31with becoming the number four seed by still a miracle in my mind, then
- 51:37becoming the number four seed, they lost one game against Texas, one game
- 51:43and they were on the verge of not having a chance at a national championship.
- 51:49But with basketball, and I know that there's a differing arguments about how
- 51:52basketball and football are different animals, and we can that's a whole nother debate
- 51:57for another day. But even even you go lower in college football with Division
- 52:01two and Division three, they have a larger bracket to be able to and
- 52:05it goes deeper into January for all the teams you know being able to play.
- 52:08But with basketball, it's it's very much a lot more equitable in my
- 52:14mind, where you're able to you're able to see these teams have their one
- 52:17shining moments or go on the runs. I mean, we talk about FAU,
- 52:22think about Saint Peter's a couple of years ago when they had that magical
- 52:24run going all the way to the final four. It's now, I don't
- 52:30know. I don't know how long it's been since we've had a first four
- 52:34team make a deep run into the postseason. To my knowledge, I don't
- 52:37think a first four team has ever won the national championship. But it's it's
- 52:44imagine being able to have that chance in football, and how many players would
- 52:49not opt out of the bowl games, would continually bust their chops to be
- 52:54able to get to that point and have that chance. So I think it's
- 52:59yeah, sure, money's way different in that regard, But all that matters
- 53:02is that Oakland got the W and Kentucky got the out. All right.
- 53:06Well, I also want to mention some about Oakland University. At one point
- 53:09they were considering buying the Palace of Albert Hills, but it never came to
- 53:14fruition. All right, we have some breaking news tonight. And you know
- 53:16what, Candy, I'm like, come on on here and you can go
- 53:19ahead and break the breaking news. All right. We got two things that
- 53:21you put up there. Feel free to go out there and mentioned and these
- 53:23are pretty good stories. Go ahead, Candy, come back on and you
- 53:28have the Brewers and you have FAU. All right, Candy. So the
- 53:31first thing is is the Milwaukee Brewers versus New York Mets were supposed to start
- 53:36opening day tomorrow. It has been rescheduled to Friday, the twenty ninth due
- 53:40to rain. The other thing is is the breaking news. You guys have
- 53:45just been talking about Dusty May and we all know he left FAU. Florida
- 53:49Atlantic agrees to a five year deal with Baylor associate head coach John Jackis,
- 53:55who led them to the national championship back in twenty twenty one. So he
- 54:00is a proven coach, so that good hire for them. Yeah, so's
- 54:05be a head top. So there you have it. FAU has a replacement
- 54:07for justin a breaking news here, thanks for presenting? All right, who
- 54:12we got left here? We got mister Ellis right, go ahead. Ye.
- 54:15So first thing is the Mets are right now. Nobody really cares.
- 54:20It's a shame the Brewers for Candy. You know why baseball in March makes
- 54:25any sense? I don't know, but hey, I don't control the MLBU.
- 54:30Every wants to road it for everybody, not just us. But you
- 54:36know, it's amazing when you look at what these schools in March Madness could
- 54:40do with. You know, I think basketball is just such a different sport.
- 54:45You can win with so many different styles. You don't need to have
- 54:50a lot of facilities, you don't need to have a lot of equipment.
- 54:53You need a basketball and a hoop, you don't need a lot of space.
- 54:58Football you need pads, you need football, you need to field,
- 55:01you know. So it's that's why I think it's so different, and there's
- 55:04so many different styles that can win. Where football it's very physical. If
- 55:07you're quicker, stronger, you're you're gonna win, you know, I mean
- 55:12their upsets happened. But ninety nine percent of the time at football, the
- 55:16stronger, more physical team's gonna win. You know. Where in basketball you
- 55:21could be quicker, you can play stronger, you could you know, you're
- 55:23gon be taller, you can be the shorter team. It's just there's so
- 55:27many different styles and there's no direct way that this is the way that's always
- 55:31gonna win. Where football it's usually you know, the bigger, the stronger,
- 55:37the team that's it. That's the only way it's gonna happen. So
- 55:40that's why I think March Madness is so crazy and special because you're just throwing
- 55:45teams against each other, teams that would never play because you know, Kentucky's
- 55:50not scheduled in Oakland. They've probably you know how many times they met.
- 55:53It's probably the first time I would say, I believe, you know.
- 55:59I mean, they do have some games early in the season where they'll play
- 56:02teams that you know, but they're usually regional. It'll be like another Kentucky
- 56:07school that so they can get an easy way to get a tune up and
- 56:09to the other Kentucky school to payday, you know, because they got to
- 56:13play a bigger school and oh my guy's got to go up against who the
- 56:16big stars are at Kentucky that year. But you know, it's a great
- 56:21thing. As far as the money and the disparity, that's the way all
- 56:25sports is. I mean, except where you have salary caps in the NFL
- 56:30and things like that. You know, college sports is always going to be
- 56:32which school has more money, They're going to spend more. It doesn't mean
- 56:37you're better or you're gonna get anywhere. You could spend the most money and
- 56:40still lose, you know. I mean, I'm sure if you look through
- 56:45the national championships over the last ten to fifteen years. I would say the
- 56:50schools that are in the top five and spending probably haven't won one of them.
- 56:54I George, you had some news of your own. Are validate jv
- 57:00Ellis's point about baseball, and Martinito ed, yeah, jab another one,
- 57:04and this is a big one. This is Atlanta at Philadelphia postponed, as
- 57:09Candy mentioned earlier, Milwaukee at New York mats's postponed, and you still got
- 57:15I think the heads in the sand for baseball when you open up in March
- 57:19in cities like Baltimore, Chicago, Philadelphia, New York. I mean,
- 57:23these are cold weather city Cincinnati, you're taking a risk. You're taking a
- 57:27chance. So mother Nature, Mother Nature postpone two games tomorrow already. Thank
- 57:32you, You're welcome. I just want to dive into this real quick.
- 57:36We'll probably talk about it in more detail next week. Lord Atlanta goes to
- 57:39Baylor to get associate head coach John Jackets. I like that. I don't
- 57:43know what's about the hire, so't comment. But when you grant the associate
- 57:46head coach from Baylor, you're talking about Scott Drew, who's done a masterful
- 57:52job with the Baylor Bears. It's that you have, so I'm gonna learn
- 57:57more about it. Don't want to get too much in it, but I'll
- 57:59tell you one thing I know. Brian White, well, well I've got
- 58:00a cell phone. He's going to be on a future edition of Motor City
- 58:05man Mouth Show. He doesn't mess around. Brian Moose early quickly we all
- 58:08know he landed Dusty May So I had to really think hard about making the
- 58:13sire So I'll give I had the benefit of the doubt on this with John
- 58:16jacobs Hire curious to find out more about the coach? Can anything you want
- 58:21to add? Jackis was at Baylor for seven seasons, including the team's national
- 58:25championship season in twenty twenty one, and spent time at Gonzaga as director of
- 58:30operations under Mark Few before that. During the three year stretch, the Bulldogs
- 58:36went to an Elite eight, one year, a Sweet sixteen, and the
- 58:39next and then national title game. He also spent twelve seasons on Division One
- 58:45staffs. The teams have posted a combined three hundred and sixteen and ninety nine
- 58:50record. There you go, Yeah, there you go. The woman that
- 58:55Jeff the Forrest went out there and recommended to do voiceovers again. We call
- 59:00it our crack statistician Candy Wling, the jack of all trades and master of
- 59:06them all too. I couldn't give you a big biohun her because it's growing
- 59:09by the second anyway, So whatever. So anyways, that does conclude this
- 59:14edition of the Sports Exchange. I'm going to do is have everybody. Let
- 59:16everybody know that you can hold of them and Candy will take us home.
- 59:20All right, go ahead, George, how can everybody get a hold of
- 59:22you? All right? Scott? Yeah, you can reach me at gi
- 59:25Cornet Yahoo dot com. I'm LinkedIn under my name and also on Twitter x
- 59:31that's where it's sand G Sports ninety nine. You can follow me at the
- 59:37Motor City Tribune, which is underneath the South Florid a tribute banner where I
- 59:40write columns and at the end of each column there's a link to look up
- 59:45my book Detroit Sports Broadcasters on the Air. And that's a nice book that
- 59:50Scott's in it as well, and we got a great history of Michigan and
- 59:53Detroit sports broadcasting. If you want to purchase it, it's at Amazon dot
- 59:58com. Glad to be part of one hundred and eighty Stitches, the Sports
- 1:00:00Exchange, Punt It's Pundon and all these great programs like Fire Up as well.
- 1:00:05So great great show tonight, guys. George Alter wrote the forward for
- 1:00:08my book as well, and I was honored to do so. Thank you,
- 1:00:14Scott. Well, you're welcome, well deserved. What can I say?
- 1:00:15You know, you and I go back a long time, and if
- 1:00:19anybody deserve to do the forward, you did it all right. Spencer my
- 1:00:22prize pupil who by the way, we'll be doing some episodes a Professor and
- 1:00:28the Pupil going forward. I think that's a good show for Spencer to be
- 1:00:31on. And you know Bulldozer marketing as classic what else? You know what
- 1:00:37I'm going to say, but Spencer is going to be part of the revival
- 1:00:40of the Professor and the Pupil, and we'll be adding different people as we
- 1:00:45go. That show will probably air on Thursday nights from time to time,
- 1:00:50probably after nine o'clock Eastern time. So I'm glad to have Spencer coming on
- 1:00:54board in that role. There's anybody that can do that show with me,
- 1:01:00and of course Jeremy Bulrich could be a part of it. We'll see Jacob
- 1:01:02Christner. Spencer is definitely the guy that topped cal Broaway. All right,
- 1:01:07Spencer, everybody know how they get old? Yeah at Spencer, Tom said,
- 1:01:12it's right here if you're looking on the show, if you're listening on
- 1:01:15podcast networks, it's Spencer spelled regularly with the C. Last name is Tom
- 1:01:21set T. Isn't Tom O M S E T T. That's my handle
- 1:01:25on on Twitter x same. You could get get hold of me Facebook,
- 1:01:31Instagram, LinkedIn, carry your pigeon. I'm not that hard to reach.
- 1:01:36But but you know, looking looking forward to help that to being a part
- 1:01:39of this even more. Scott and whatever. Anytime that Scott ever says hey,
- 1:01:44I want to get you on the show, I am always happy to
- 1:01:45help. And Sam sentiment that George express great show tonight, gentlemen. As
- 1:01:51it's always it's always good to it's always good to reconnect with you all.
- 1:01:54And Spencer, if the little in case people are just joining us right now,
- 1:01:58I want you to let everybody know that you what your role is at
- 1:02:00the University of Alabama. There's a lot, there's a lot of different things
- 1:02:06I do. I'm primarily a PhD student. I'm a few weeks out from
- 1:02:09completing coursework, which will make me a PhD candidate, meaning all I have
- 1:02:14to do is my comprehensive exams and dissertation. I also a play by play
- 1:02:20broadcaster, freelancing with Crimson Tie Productions as well as Alabama's adapted athletics program.
- 1:02:25Through my PhD program, I'm teaching classes for undergraduate students right now, teaching
- 1:02:32intro sports communication, and we just launched a sports announcing course the spring that
- 1:02:38I'm leaving the charge on with teaching this spring and then the next one in
- 1:02:43my final semester. So I'm doing a lot. There's a lot of stuff
- 1:02:45I'm doing on campus, but primarily sports broadcasting. Whenever they call me up,
- 1:02:51I gotta ask you a quick question just came to mind. What are
- 1:02:52your thoughts about Eli Gold no longer being Withers at Alabama? You know,
- 1:02:58I had conversations with my colleague about this, like right around when it happened.
- 1:03:02It's certainly not unprecedented for the University of Alabama than when coach Bear Bryant
- 1:03:08passed and they chose their new coach. They also let go of their play
- 1:03:13by play broadcast or on the radio through right before they even started. It
- 1:03:17was even more interesting because we had Eli Gold in the building in January for
- 1:03:23Q and A with our members and open it up for anyone at the university
- 1:03:30to join us. And he had no feeling whatsoever of that this was his
- 1:03:37last season or any sentiment that he was going to retire, he told He
- 1:03:42told us, I remember this distinct distinctly. In conversation, a student asked
- 1:03:46him about what his relationship has been like with Nick Saban. He talked about
- 1:03:50it, and he said, you know, I haven't met Calin de Bor,
- 1:03:52but I'm sure we'll get along just fine. So he was anticipating being
- 1:03:57a part of this season. How it's I understand that those who are supervisors,
- 1:04:03who are in power, they have a job to do. From what
- 1:04:06I understand, it was the university decided not to renew his contract and decided
- 1:04:11not to let him call a day that's coming up in a couple of weeks,
- 1:04:15and it you know, it's it's it's an unfortunate reality of this business.
- 1:04:20Even if you dedicate almost four decades of your life to university and doing
- 1:04:26coaches shows and guest appearances and games at home and on the road, not
- 1:04:31just on the football side, but basketball and softball and other other different events.
- 1:04:36Doesn't matter how much you dedicate to one place, you can you can
- 1:04:41be let go at any given point, so you have to try and make
- 1:04:45and make it to where your employers it would be impossible or way more detrimental
- 1:04:50to fire you than it would be to keep you on. So I you
- 1:04:54know, I love Eli. He he is a treasure. He's been very
- 1:04:58gracious with his time to me and content being talking to me about various things.
- 1:05:01And I I'm just glad he's got another job with the National Cats.
- 1:05:05Uh, so he's at least still employed in the business. And I forget
- 1:05:09which college that he's uh set to do games for as well on a freelance
- 1:05:14basis, But I'm glad that he's at least employed somewhere. It's it's just
- 1:05:17unfortunate that he couldn't go out on his own terms with with the Crimson Tide.
- 1:05:23George, I, Corny and I all know about that thrill too much
- 1:05:26with Ernie that blow up. I'm not going to get into it too much
- 1:05:30tonight. But Erny was ceremoniously let go, but luckily Mike Elich brought him
- 1:05:35back because you want to talk about a firestorm and a pr disaswer with the
- 1:05:39Detroit Tiger. All you need to do is google Ernie Harwell's firing and then
- 1:05:44you can see the backlash there. All right, Well, we're saying saving
- 1:05:47the best for last tonight and that's jb Ella's Look at this guy, he
- 1:05:51just wait, we got to say the best of last. I mean,
- 1:05:56all you go to the best. But you know, with all the respect,
- 1:06:00he's the only one that did not send a text message, although you
- 1:06:02didn't either, Spencer, I sent it to you about waiting till I got
- 1:06:06through the jeff to forest. So you know what jb ellis let everybody know
- 1:06:11how they get hold out. I want you to mention the website as well,
- 1:06:14and some of the things that you're doing over at Sideline Sports as well.
- 1:06:16I know, yeah, website about website, yeah yeah, yeah,
- 1:06:27yeah, the key to you getting improved at events like the Big East Tournament.
- 1:06:30All right, but hold on, Joe, we got to get this
- 1:06:32in here. Norway, Brian, good time grittings to the panel, especially
- 1:06:36George from Kingston More to come all right, well, like Gorn, look
- 1:06:42at that, all right, go ahead, Jail the next one. Jap
- 1:06:46underscore the program on x Sideline Sports every Tuesday at eight thirty. We're doing
- 1:06:53a lot of things over there. We actually had Sean Russy, who is
- 1:06:57an NFL and and be agent who started a new show for us tonight.
- 1:07:02Earlier it was on at I believe six thirty Eastern. Phenomenal guy going over
- 1:07:08to the sports business. I can learn a lot. If you have questions
- 1:07:12about contracts and things, you definitely want to tune into that. It'll be
- 1:07:16on Sideline sportsnet dot com and all the Sideline Sports socials. Kidi did a
- 1:07:20phenomenal job building the website. You can see all my game reviews from the
- 1:07:26Big East Tournament and whatever else we cover. Got to cover some more stuff
- 1:07:29so we can get some more stuff up there. But there's a lot of
- 1:07:30stuff going on there. You know, got some articles from George, get
- 1:07:34some raticles from Scott so for myself and Jacob who's not here. You know,
- 1:07:42it's a lot of different things going on. But that's basically a Tuesday
- 1:07:46eight thirty Sideline Sports. Last night we had David Meltzer. You can go
- 1:07:50watch that on YouTube or any of the socials. Great show and a lot
- 1:07:56going on, all right, Well, you know, one of our biggest
- 1:07:59projects, all the worst the waiting word for the NFL. But we'll get
- 1:08:00more information as time goes on. As a sideline, and Feltware Tribune are
- 1:08:05definitely looking forward to working together, okay for the NFL Draft, but we'll
- 1:08:11wait for the NFL to give us complete official verification, so we'll keep you
- 1:08:15a closer there. All right, Candy, I said my piece. You
- 1:08:16can take us the rest of the way. You said it best when you
- 1:08:19said you saved the best for last, and George laughed. He thought it
- 1:08:24was JB. Hey, I'll take the last one. She is not going
- 1:08:32to forgive you for that one. Scott, Come on, man, well
- 1:08:35you know what, Spencer. I've been in trouble my whole life earlier.
- 1:08:42I'm the only clone on the planet that could tear an ankle up on Christmas
- 1:08:45Day. And I do want to say this, so I may have it
- 1:08:50rough at home, but I do want to say on behalf of your family
- 1:08:55here at the Sports Exchange, for all those individuals that are celebrating the Easter
- 1:08:59holiday and Good Friday, I want to wish you guys out there a very
- 1:09:02happy Easter as well as good Fridays for those of you that are of the
- 1:09:06Jewish faith. Okay, happy Passover as well. So I may get passed
- 1:09:12over with a whip with my wife, and I'm not going out there and
- 1:09:15getting passed over by the rest of you people out There's a happy Easter and
- 1:09:19happy Passover to all of our Jewish friends and non Jewish people during this holy
- 1:09:24holiday, and I'll get it back to Candy e Bling. Otherwise I may
- 1:09:28be saying, Holy cow, what did I say. I was going to
- 1:09:30break an ankle? Hey, listen, let me tell you. When people
- 1:09:32say break a leg to me, I say, no, you really don't
- 1:09:34want me to do that, because I've been known to do stuff like that.
- 1:09:38If you're in the entertainment business out there, don't tell me to break
- 1:09:42a leg because I'm able to wind up in the hospital and have to use
- 1:09:45my insurance card. So give me good luck, but just don't say break
- 1:09:47a leg. All right, Katy, back to you before I put my
- 1:09:49foot in my mouth and want to do it. Go ahead, Canty,
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- 1:12:14Scott. There you go, Candy, well done as usual. So meanwhile,
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