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Speaker 1: Just proceed, Chuck. Yes, I'm great. How are you? What's
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Speaker 1: your time is? NI? I'm getting over my cold? Yeah
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Speaker 1: you sound good? Do I Yeah? Well you sound better
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Speaker 1: than last week. Yeah, I'll give you that, but I
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Speaker 1: this and it got really bad, pretty snotty. I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to go into it here, but wow. Yeah, um okay, yes,
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Speaker 1: election time is not I tried to get right to it,
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Speaker 1: yeah and I blocked you. Um so uh yeah, That's
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Speaker 1: why I wanted to do this one, because people perennially
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Speaker 1: perennially ask for the electoral college and other people say,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what that is but I want to
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Speaker 1: hear about that too, And then people in other countries
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Speaker 1: just say, you guys do what? Yeah, it's kind of depressing. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Actually I meant to look up to see what other
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Speaker 1: countries did with their elections. It's like kings and birthrights
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Speaker 1: and stuff, but no one else votes. No, that's just
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Speaker 1: the USA that does that. Um yeah, chuck um. I
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Speaker 1: don't really have much of an intro here, all right,
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Speaker 1: it's more of a can you believe this kind of thing?
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Speaker 1: How long have you thought that you went to the
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Speaker 1: polls and cast a vote and the vote you were
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Speaker 1: casting was for the candidate that you were casting that
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Speaker 1: vote for. That that's who that vote went to every
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Speaker 1: time up until yesterday. So like you didn't have much
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Speaker 1: of an idea about the electoral call. Now I did,
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Speaker 1: but and I knew sort of how it worked, But
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Speaker 1: until you really get down to it, you don't realize that, Wow,
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Speaker 1: I'm voting for a person that's going to vote for
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Speaker 1: a person. Yeah exactly, you know, yeah, because in some cases,
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Speaker 1: like it's not even on the ballot, like the person
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Speaker 1: who you're actually voting for. Okay, So we did what
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Speaker 1: I like to do. We confused everybody, and now we're
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Speaker 1: gonna go back and explain what we're talking about. Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was confused. Actually, uh, I'm gonna be a shamed
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Speaker 1: shame myself right out of the gate. When it said
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Speaker 1: every four years on the Tuesday following the first Monday
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Speaker 1: of November, I was like, why don't they just call
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Speaker 1: it the first Tuesday in November? But then I realized that,
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Speaker 1: I guess if November one is a Tuesday, then it
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Speaker 1: won't the election won't be to the following Tuesday because
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Speaker 1: they gotta get the Monday in there. It gets even
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Speaker 1: crazier than that with the electoral College. They go the
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Speaker 1: first Monday day following the second Wednesday in December. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and everybody had like gout or something like that. Back. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's what it was. So that is when the actual
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Speaker 1: presidency is decided in December. Although everyone knows, well you
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Speaker 1: would think, yeah, so okay, so let's talk about this.
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Speaker 1: So the electoral college the whole thing, like, why don't
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Speaker 1: we just stick to the popular vote, which is what
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Speaker 1: everybody thinks they're doing. Anyway, where did this come from?
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Speaker 1: I have an answer. Uh, back in the day when
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Speaker 1: our founding forefathers and mothers were doing their thing here.
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Speaker 1: They decided, you know, I think I don't trust a
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Speaker 1: regular popular vote. Uh it's reckless as described in this article.
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Speaker 1: And then um, another camp said, you know what, we
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Speaker 1: sure as heck ain't gonna let Congress decide the president.
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Speaker 1: So why don't we come up with a really confusing,
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Speaker 1: wacky system all the electoral college, Because it's like, compromise,
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Speaker 1: do you want to have a bunch of uninformed gravel
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Speaker 1: rousers who just revolted against the King of England a
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Speaker 1: few years before voting, or do you want a group
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Speaker 1: of elites voting. It's like citizens United. You don't want
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Speaker 1: either of them. So, yeah, they just went and got confusing.
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I imagine it was more confusing back then
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Speaker 1: than it is today. Or maybe not, maybe it made
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Speaker 1: more sensepect I think it probably did. So Okay, So
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Speaker 1: when they come up with it was a compromise. Well,
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Speaker 1: the compromises when it comes election time. Um, there are
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Speaker 1: these people called electors who actually decide the presidency and
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Speaker 1: they represent Um that's equal to to two U. S.
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Speaker 1: Senators that every state has, plus the number of representatives
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Speaker 1: that each state has, So that comes to five thirty
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Speaker 1: eight total. Yes, Um, and three of those are part
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Speaker 1: of the twenty three amendment from nineteen sixty one that
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Speaker 1: gave three electors to d C. Yeah, they figured, since
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Speaker 1: everything is based here, we might as well talk with
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Speaker 1: your votes. Seem like the right. Um, And did you
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Speaker 1: say that was amendment? So? Um, they actually cast the
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Speaker 1: vote when when we when we vote for the president,
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Speaker 1: we are voting for the electors, And like you said,
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Speaker 1: they're not always even on the ballot. Sometimes they are,
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Speaker 1: sometimes they're not. And like I bet you anything, the
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Speaker 1: people who vote have no idea who their electors are
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Speaker 1: or like how they got to be in that position, right,
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Speaker 1: They were like, Um, I'm going to vote for Barack Obama,
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Speaker 1: but who is this Todd Winemaker in parentheses thanks to him?
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Speaker 1: I have no idea who that is or if in
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Speaker 1: some ballots they'll you'll go to the end and it's
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Speaker 1: like county commissioner, dog catcher and then electors and then
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Speaker 1: there's a list of people's names by party or like
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Speaker 1: you said, it's just not on there at all. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And one thing I was surprised to learn was my
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Speaker 1: our own electors here in Georgia. I looked them up
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Speaker 1: just because I thought, you know, I might as well
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Speaker 1: know who they are and their addresses are in there,
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Speaker 1: Like I can go knock on the dude's door indicator
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Speaker 1: like eight blocks from me and say, you, sir, have
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Speaker 1: a great responsibility at your hands. Are you going to
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Speaker 1: do that? But I could? You could? I think maybe
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Speaker 1: you should reconsider. I'm just surprised. I don't know. I guess, well,
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Speaker 1: we know where the president lives, so that's not a
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Speaker 1: big deal. But I guess I was surprised at all
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Speaker 1: that stuff is common knowledge. I thought they would be
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Speaker 1: like secret. Yeah, I think they want that to go
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Speaker 1: the opposite way. Well, no, it makes sense now that
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Speaker 1: I figured it out, Like they do want everything out
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Speaker 1: in the open so everyone knows. But it just seemed
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Speaker 1: a little weird that the guy voting for the president
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Speaker 1: is actually like half a mile from my house or
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Speaker 1: one of the guys. I'm with you, all right. UM,
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Speaker 1: so you've got like this group of people who are
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Speaker 1: actually voted in, and um they meet after the popular
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Speaker 1: election to certify. The secretary of each state certifies the vote.
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Speaker 1: The governor, Uh, what's the for certificates saying here are
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Speaker 1: all the votes that age candidate got, and then um,
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Speaker 1: based on this, the electors go and cast their vote
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Speaker 1: the first Monday following the second Wednesday in December. That's right.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't find why. Oh, I don't know. I guess
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Speaker 1: it just falls somewhere in between the election and jan
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Speaker 1: And that's when everybody it's like, wait, wait, wait, Christmas, Christmas.
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Speaker 1: We've got to make sure we're done in plenty of time.
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Speaker 1: And then um, they cast the vote and then it's unsealed,
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Speaker 1: right and read that's right. Even though, barring any surprises,
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Speaker 1: you pretty much know election night from either exit polls
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Speaker 1: or whatever you know, Dan rather tells you, or whoever
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Speaker 1: does it these days, you would hope because that guy
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Speaker 1: who lives a few miles away from you, blocks or miles, Um,
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Speaker 1: I think I charted him out. I'm stalking him. It
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Speaker 1: was less than a mile. That's uh. So that guy, um,
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Speaker 1: you want his name? Yeah, John White? That his name,
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Speaker 1: So John White, the elector, right, one of them. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's perfectly legal for him to say, you know what,
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Speaker 1: Supposedly I am supposed to be voting for Barack Obama.
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Speaker 1: But I really like the kind of this. Mitt Rodney's Jim. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that doesn't really happen, though it has, but not quite
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Speaker 1: like that. But in the modern time, I think one
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Speaker 1: of the reasons why they published their addresses is so
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Speaker 1: you know, a good it's throwing you out there like,
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Speaker 1: hey man, you can vote however you want, but everybody
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Speaker 1: knows where you live. And if you think they get
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Speaker 1: mad about, you know, referees making bad calls, faithless elector
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Speaker 1: that's what they're called, which is a great band name.
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Speaker 1: Do you think faithless selector or the faithless Electors? I
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Speaker 1: don't think so. It's too um maybe for like a
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Speaker 1: DC law school band. Faithless Electors. I can see that
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Speaker 1: almost girls, they have no future whatsoever unless they turn
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Speaker 1: it into something like school opians or something like that. Right,
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Speaker 1: And actually, faithless electors have no future as electors because
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Speaker 1: one thing you can probably be sure of if you
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Speaker 1: change your vote, then you're not going to be asked
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Speaker 1: back to be an elector in the future, and you
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Speaker 1: could possibly be fined depending on what states you're in,
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Speaker 1: and you're probably going to be kicked out of your party.
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Speaker 1: You're putting a lot on the line. Yeah, and see,
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Speaker 1: this is the thing that made it all clear to me.
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Speaker 1: Each party has its own electors, so that's why no
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Speaker 1: one's gonna turn. Like the people that are put in
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Speaker 1: the place as electors are like staunch party line people.
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Speaker 1: You know, they're not going to turn and vote. Like.
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Speaker 1: The reason they're there is because they know that they're
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Speaker 1: going to vote for either the Republican or the Democrat.
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Speaker 1: Then know where their bread is buttered exactly. Um. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so let's talk about these people. How are these people elected?
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Speaker 1: What do they have to qualify for? Obviously everyone has
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Speaker 1: to have at least a juris doctor if not a
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Speaker 1: PhD in law of some sort, like a juris doctorate um,
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Speaker 1: some sort of political science degree um. And probably um
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Speaker 1: they have to have like several hundred hours of community
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Speaker 1: service under their belt. Yes, that is not true. Are
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Speaker 1: you sure? A nice set up though, thank you being coy. Uh.
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Speaker 1: There actually are no real um strict outlines per the
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Speaker 1: constitution as to who these people are. Um. They are
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Speaker 1: usually nominated by a state party committee. Um. It says
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Speaker 1: in here, usually as a or sometimes to reward many
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Speaker 1: years of service to the party. So they could be
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Speaker 1: like big on the campaign trail for you or activists
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Speaker 1: maybe for your party or like a robo dialer. Yeah yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess so like the all time robot dialing. UM.
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Speaker 1: But they cannot be UM senators or representatives. And I
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Speaker 1: would imagine former too, although I didn't see that. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I think active is what it is. UM.
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Speaker 1: You can't be a high ranking official in a position
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Speaker 1: of trust or profit. Makes sense. And this one I
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Speaker 1: love that they actually had to specify this. UM, he
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Speaker 1: or she cannot be someone who has engaged in insurrection
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Speaker 1: or rebellion. Well this is this obviously was put in
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Speaker 1: by the people who are like, we can't just to
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Speaker 1: a popular vote. These people are crazy, Like I saw,
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Speaker 1: I must get in that guy's hands last week, aimed
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Speaker 1: at my office and now he's an elector, right, he
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Speaker 1: can't vote. That is still in there though. UM. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that insurrection rebellion thing definitely helped form this country. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So UM, you've got people who are active in their
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Speaker 1: in their party, who are who have been rewarded UM.
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Speaker 1: Maybe they're activists. UM. Sometimes they know the president or
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Speaker 1: at president elect, like they met him on the campaign trail. UM.
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Speaker 1: And that's really about it. Each state has I think
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Speaker 1: probably a different UM nominating process. But overall, when you
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Speaker 1: are when you have a candidate who's running from Green
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Speaker 1: Party dumb Republican, you take your as your party, as
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Speaker 1: your Green Party, you all go down together and you
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Speaker 1: pile into like the the camper and go down and
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Speaker 1: exactly and you're all very depressed because you don't have
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Speaker 1: a shot at winning. You know, Roseanne's running for president
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Speaker 1: for the Green Party. Really yeah, and she's being roasted
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Speaker 1: right now. I don't think that that's not a media play, right. Um,
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Speaker 1: So they all go down to the Secretary of State's
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Speaker 1: office and say, hey, these are our candidates. There are
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Speaker 1: electors for candidates for electors. So when you vote for Roseanne, um,
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Speaker 1: it should have all those people's names next to hers
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Speaker 1: or on on like by party. It might say like
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Speaker 1: Green Party electors, here's all the people, or it might
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Speaker 1: not say anything. But um, when you cast that vote
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Speaker 1: for Roseanne, you are voting those electors. That's who you're
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Speaker 1: voting for. That's who the vote goes to, Not Roseanne,
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Speaker 1: it goes to John Goodman. I would be That's who
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Speaker 1: I would have as my elector if I was Roseanne.
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Speaker 1: What about Tom Arnold? Now, Tom Arnold, that a messy divorce.
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Speaker 1: He'd be the party press though. Well John Goodman was
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Speaker 1: never married to there's just TV TV marriage though. That's
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Speaker 1: like sacer sanct That's just my opinion. All right, Um,
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Speaker 1: all right, so where are we? We're talking about how
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Speaker 1: the vote goes towards not Roseanne where you wanted it
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Speaker 1: to go, not Tom Tom Arnold or John Goodman, but
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Speaker 1: to uh Todd Winemaker and all the other electors. Right,
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Speaker 1: So what's what's going on here? What's this process? Well,
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Speaker 1: I mean they they literally just make their vote, um,
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Speaker 1: supposedly in accordance with the people's popular vote, and I
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Speaker 1: think what do they give it to? The secretary secretary
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Speaker 1: of state? Right, that's that's who's like, it's registered before
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Speaker 1: election day, like your names on the list, it's yes,
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Speaker 1: So at the at least if it's not printed on
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Speaker 1: the ballot, the secretary of state knows who the electors are.
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Speaker 1: And there's two ways to do it. Forty eight states
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Speaker 1: have a winner take all system, and then Maine in
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Speaker 1: Nebraska have a district system. I'm just confused by that one. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So the district system actually more closely follows the electoral
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Speaker 1: college system than the winner take all. Now is this
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Speaker 1: to to vote for the elector only? No, that's what
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Speaker 1: confused me. I think. So let's say you have let's
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Speaker 1: do the winner take all system, which is so easy,
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Speaker 1: but think about it. So let's say you are in Arizona,
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Speaker 1: all right, right, and you're you decided to stay, you're
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Speaker 1: not moving. Um, that wouldn't happen. You've got like you
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Speaker 1: have ten ten there's ten well in two thousand eight
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Speaker 1: and I believe it's the same in two thousand and twelve.
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Speaker 1: There's ten electoral votes, right, Um, so the Green Party
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Speaker 1: candidate Roseanne should have ten electors associated with her, right, Um,
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Speaker 1: the Barack Obama should have ten electors? Uh mitt, Ronnie
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Speaker 1: should have ten electors. So when when that person wins
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Speaker 1: the popular vote and that's certified, then those electors are
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Speaker 1: the ones, those ten associated with that candidate are the
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Speaker 1: one that should go down to the state capital on
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Speaker 1: the first Monday after the second Wednesday of December and
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Speaker 1: cast their vote. Okay, I get that. And also we
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Speaker 1: should point out that in this system, that is the
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Speaker 1: reason why sometimes the name isn't even on the ballot
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Speaker 1: because there's something something somewhere in their state constitution that
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Speaker 1: says a vote for Barack Obama is a vote for
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Speaker 1: these ten people. You don't need to know who they are,
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Speaker 1: just trust us exactly. Okay, that's the that's the winner
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Speaker 1: take all system. Right. The other system in Maine in
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Speaker 1: Nebraska is a district system. So the winner take all
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Speaker 1: system that's a lot like a popular vote. Um. In
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Speaker 1: the district system, you get two votes, the the guy
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Speaker 1: who won, the guy or the lady or the gender
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Speaker 1: gender neutral president, depending on when you listen to this episode.
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Speaker 1: Um uh. They whoever got the most popular votes in
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Speaker 1: the state gets two electoral votes, the two associated with
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Speaker 1: the Senate Right. Then um, the other electoral votes that
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Speaker 1: are divvied up by congressional district. Whoever one that congressional
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Speaker 1: district gets that vote. Yeah, I get that, and I looked.
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Speaker 1: I looked it up a little further and saw that
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Speaker 1: there are scenarios in Maine in Nebraska where you could
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Speaker 1: have three different UM votes cast for three different candidates.
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Speaker 1: But they said it's never happened. It's just theoretically possible,
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Speaker 1: mathematically statistically possible, all three. I don't know. It just
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Speaker 1: seems like everyone should just be all in the same system.
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Speaker 1: But but it makes sense if you're but think about it, Like,
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Speaker 1: the whole reason you have the electoral college, or one
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Speaker 1: of the big reasons, is to prevent um one region
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Speaker 1: or one one part of this state from wielding enough
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Speaker 1: power to vote for everybody else. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: what the district system is is set up to prevent
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Speaker 1: to It's kind of like, hey man, you had let
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Speaker 1: let you. You voted for this, this, this person, UM,
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Speaker 1: and we want you to have your say in the
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Speaker 1: electoral college. I think it's smarter. Oh yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: so well than I do too. You swayed me. Good.
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Speaker 1: John White. I've got his number. You know, he could
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Speaker 1: use this as evidence one day for what I don't want.
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Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? What are you gonna do? I'm but
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Speaker 1: if something happened, then everyone would point their fingers at me. Yeah.
17:43
Speaker 1: It's like we heard him say it so on his podcast.
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Speaker 1: All right, I won't testify against you, though I appreciate it. Um.
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Speaker 1: Should we talk about some of the hinky results over
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Speaker 1: the years when things don't go quite as planned or
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Speaker 1: go exactly as planned. Very true, that's a teaser. Um.
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Speaker 1: There have been four presidents, Um, potus what they call
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Speaker 1: him four potuses podai that have one um there their
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Speaker 1: post with without the popular vote. Yeah, I mean that's
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Speaker 1: happened four times in this country, and all the ones
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Speaker 1: up until two thousand, we probably weren't his concern with
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Speaker 1: because you're like, who cares. They're all old timing, They're
18:28
Speaker 1: all old time, they were wearing, they were just working
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Speaker 1: it out. Back in eighty four when John adams Son
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Speaker 1: John Quincy the Q, the Q he received thirty eight
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Speaker 1: thousand fewer votes than Andrew Jackson. Um, this one was
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Speaker 1: was definitely hinky because neither one of them won electoral college.
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Speaker 1: So if that happens, you defer to what the twelfth Amendment,
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Speaker 1: and that's when the House of Representatives decides who the
18:53
Speaker 1: president is, which would be really weird these days. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: don't you think. I think there'd be a lot of
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Speaker 1: that just be bad news. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: this is four and there were still a lot of
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Speaker 1: insurrecting rebellious people, so I'm sure it was a little
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Speaker 1: nervous back then. Um so who won j Q Q Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Um eighteen seventy six, brother Ford B. Hayes. Um, this
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Speaker 1: is the first time and I think the only time
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Speaker 1: that small states actually swung the election. Hayes carried a
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Speaker 1: bunch of small states um and basically combined there with
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Speaker 1: their combined electoral votes, gave him the electoral vote um,
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Speaker 1: although he lost the popular vote by a lot, by
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Speaker 1: like a hundred and nine thousand, no, two hundred sixty
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Speaker 1: four thousand votes. He lost the popular vote. Yeah, we
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Speaker 1: almost had a president Samuel Tilden, Sammy Tilden, the Haymaker,
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Speaker 1: it was his nickname. Really, I feel bad for the
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Speaker 1: hay Maker all of a sudden, Yeah, yeah, well, I
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Speaker 1: mean everybody liked him a lot more. But Hayes cobbled
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Speaker 1: together a win from small states, and Colorado had just
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Speaker 1: been let in this is the Hinky part um and
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Speaker 1: they didn't have any popular vote, there was no vote whatsoever.
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Speaker 1: They just did some electoral voting and it went all
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Speaker 1: to hay So he put it together with Colorado so
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Speaker 1: with very little popular vote, and then in one state
20:21
Speaker 1: no popular vote, and he won, and he went on
20:24
Speaker 1: to be the greatest president of this country's ever seen.
20:26
Speaker 1: I mean, Colorado, I guess they were just like, we
20:29
Speaker 1: don't even have pens and pencils. Can you give us, like,
20:32
Speaker 1: just get bufflers. We're just like, we're all boxes over here.
20:35
Speaker 1: We haven't even started unpacking. So they said, oh well,
20:39
Speaker 1: let's just give it to let's just give it to Haze. Yeah,
20:43
Speaker 1: good on, Yeah, who you got next? Benjie Harrison lost
20:49
Speaker 1: the popular vote by more than ninety five thousand votes
20:51
Speaker 1: to Grover Cleveland. Won the electoral vote by sixty five
20:56
Speaker 1: And this is one of the cases where they say
20:58
Speaker 1: it worked exactly like the plan. Uh, like we planned
21:02
Speaker 1: it to with electoral college, because you can't just overwhelm
21:06
Speaker 1: someone in one region and and get the presidency. That's
21:11
Speaker 1: what happened. And so in six states in the South,
21:14
Speaker 1: so they the whole campaign pretty much was based on
21:17
Speaker 1: we want the tariff, we don't want the tariff. Well,
21:19
Speaker 1: the North that everybody else wanted the tariff, South didn't
21:22
Speaker 1: want the tariff. Um, so Grover Cleveland was like, no
21:26
Speaker 1: tariff whatsoever, and the South voted as a block. They
21:30
Speaker 1: had a bunch of people. He won the popular vote
21:32
Speaker 1: by like huge number, but in the other thirty two
21:37
Speaker 1: states he lost by four twenty five thousand votes. No, no, no,
21:41
Speaker 1: he lost by three hundred thousand. He had so thirty
21:45
Speaker 1: two states were against him. Combined, six states were four him,
21:48
Speaker 1: and the Electoral College steps in and prevents the South
21:51
Speaker 1: from picking the president for the rest of the country
21:55
Speaker 1: flawless and then not flawless. Let's go to the year
22:00
Speaker 1: two thousand. Yeah. Yeah, I was um driving across country
22:06
Speaker 1: moving to Los Angeles during this election, and I made
22:09
Speaker 1: a self made video of my journey, which most of
22:14
Speaker 1: which was me singing along the songs on the radio
22:16
Speaker 1: in my U haul. And I've still got this. I
22:18
Speaker 1: should like get it digitized and posted at some point.
22:21
Speaker 1: It's pretty funny. But um, I remember very specifically one
22:24
Speaker 1: part in the in the thing, I woke up in
22:26
Speaker 1: New Mexico and I'm you can tell him all sleepy
22:28
Speaker 1: and you don't remember going to sleep. I remember going
22:31
Speaker 1: to sleep, but I woke up and I said, yeah,
22:34
Speaker 1: you know here I am in New Mexico. It's weird.
22:37
Speaker 1: I woke up this morning and they don't know who
22:38
Speaker 1: the president is. And it's like captured in time this
22:41
Speaker 1: moment where I realized was sleep in my eyes, Like,
22:45
Speaker 1: that's weird. I went to bed expecting because you know
22:48
Speaker 1: that night everybody was going towards Gore. Well, every I
22:51
Speaker 1: think it was called a couple of different ways, a
22:53
Speaker 1: couple of different times. It went back and forth, but
22:55
Speaker 1: when everybody went to bed, it was like Gore all
22:58
Speaker 1: the way, like he'd won the popular vote. They knew
23:01
Speaker 1: it was close, but everybody had called Gore and and
23:04
Speaker 1: then they woke up and they're like wait a second.
23:06
Speaker 1: And then a huge, huge mess cluster ensued afterward, which
23:14
Speaker 1: involved the court system. It involved um hanging Chad's well
23:20
Speaker 1: not only that, you remember like there was this one
23:22
Speaker 1: county where like their votes just got lost for a
23:25
Speaker 1: little while on the way to be counted. They were
23:29
Speaker 1: just vanished, um and then reappeared later on, like that
23:34
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. You should just basically be like, no,
23:37
Speaker 1: the whole state, everybody has to wait, the whole state
23:39
Speaker 1: has to start over and vote again. Yeah, that might
23:42
Speaker 1: have been a good mood. They were like accusations of
23:44
Speaker 1: disenfranchisement among black voters, black in black areas. Yeah, there
23:49
Speaker 1: were also, I mean both sides had a lot of
23:51
Speaker 1: arguments like when you really start peeling back the layers
23:54
Speaker 1: and researching this, like it will make you cry. And
23:57
Speaker 1: they were just like dozens and dozens of um factors
24:01
Speaker 1: that many people never even saw in the nightly news,
24:04
Speaker 1: you know, like military votes or disenfranchised voters in poor counties.
24:08
Speaker 1: And then I think Gore asked for a recount and
24:11
Speaker 1: only four counties when people are saying he should have
24:15
Speaker 1: asked for a hand recount in all the counties. And
24:18
Speaker 1: in the end, Potas was decided for the country by
24:23
Speaker 1: less than, like, less than four hundred votes. Is that
24:27
Speaker 1: when it came down to well, I mean it depends
24:29
Speaker 1: because all the different factors, like do we count these votes?
24:32
Speaker 1: What about these these people meant to vote for Gore
24:34
Speaker 1: or Bush and it was cloudy, and what about these
24:36
Speaker 1: hanging chads? So there's all different kinds of numbers. But
24:39
Speaker 1: I've seen one. I've seen one um that said it
24:43
Speaker 1: was less than a hundred votes. It was the deciding factor.
24:47
Speaker 1: So it came down to a hundred votes. But Florida's
24:50
Speaker 1: winner take all. Yeah, so that means that those hundred votes,
24:53
Speaker 1: since Bush got those hundred votes, he got all twenty
24:56
Speaker 1: five votes in the electoral college for Florida, which just
25:00
Speaker 1: so happened to put him at exactly the amount of
25:03
Speaker 1: electoral votes he needed to win the presidency, which was
25:06
Speaker 1: to seventy one it's crazy. I mean I've seen I've
25:10
Speaker 1: looked as many people have since then. It like the
25:13
Speaker 1: independent studies they did afterward, and it just depends on
25:17
Speaker 1: which ones you want to read. Like I saw today,
25:19
Speaker 1: I saw like ten independent studies, and six of them
25:22
Speaker 1: showed that Gore was the definite winner. Four of them
25:25
Speaker 1: showed that Bush was. So it's just confusing and disheartening.
25:30
Speaker 1: But what it did was shed light on ah a
25:34
Speaker 1: pretty flawed system, um, and how we cast our votes,
25:38
Speaker 1: how they're counted, um. And it gave us the hanging
25:41
Speaker 1: Chad I guess the hanging Chad joke. Um. So uh.
25:45
Speaker 1: There was also a bit of awkwardness that came out
25:47
Speaker 1: of that, um, just a bit. Well in in one instance,
25:52
Speaker 1: there was a kind of an overlooked bit of awkwardness.
25:54
Speaker 1: The when the votes are the electoral votes are unsealed,
25:58
Speaker 1: they're unsealed by the president of the city. It president
26:01
Speaker 1: of the Senate is the vice president. So in two thousand,
26:04
Speaker 1: the two thousand election, remember Al Gore was vice president,
26:07
Speaker 1: he was president Senate, so he had to read his
26:09
Speaker 1: own defeated electoral college votes did yeah, and there was
26:17
Speaker 1: like something of an insurrection and a rebellion among black
26:20
Speaker 1: congressional members who were protesting the vote and protesting including
26:24
Speaker 1: Florida's vote in the count and uh, he had to
26:27
Speaker 1: basically be like it's over, it's done. For the good
26:31
Speaker 1: of the country, let's move on. But he he there
26:34
Speaker 1: was like no emotion, even the emotion you just had,
26:37
Speaker 1: there wasn't that. There was less than that. For the
26:39
Speaker 1: good of the country. Let's move on. You know, Gore
26:41
Speaker 1: always got tagged as the robot, the robotron, But there
26:45
Speaker 1: was a video I might have talked about it before
26:47
Speaker 1: that Spike Jones made of Gore that never was released,
26:51
Speaker 1: a campaign video that I think would have won him
26:55
Speaker 1: the election. He had like his tie Lesen now man,
26:59
Speaker 1: he he was like way funnier and cooler than you
27:02
Speaker 1: would think he was on thirty Rock. He did a
27:05
Speaker 1: good job on Yeah, but that was later. But this
27:06
Speaker 1: was before when he had the like the bad rap
27:09
Speaker 1: is like a robot. But this like he let him
27:12
Speaker 1: inside his home and it was just very casual, very
27:14
Speaker 1: laid back, and you're like you saw him as a
27:16
Speaker 1: dude for the first time, like cracking jokes and hanging
27:18
Speaker 1: out with his family, and it was like very endearing
27:21
Speaker 1: and he and he was like, do not release this. Yeah,
27:23
Speaker 1: I'm sure, and he lost the election. Did you ever
27:26
Speaker 1: see that Simpsons where Lisa buys al Gore's one of
27:29
Speaker 1: his books and like the information is transmitted and somebody
27:32
Speaker 1: runs into the to the I don't know what The
27:35
Speaker 1: vice president's office is called the Trapezoid office, and it's like,
27:40
Speaker 1: Mr Vice President, someone just bought your book. And he goes, well,
27:43
Speaker 1: this calls for a celebration, and he turns so he
27:46
Speaker 1: turns on the record player and puts on h cool
27:50
Speaker 1: in the game celebrate and it's like celebreak good times.
27:55
Speaker 1: Come on. He goes, I will, It's perfect. They nailed them.
28:01
Speaker 1: Oh poor guy. So that's Gore. Yeah, that's Gore. So
28:05
Speaker 1: I guess on both sides of the coin here, Um,
28:10
Speaker 1: we have people thinking this is a great thing still
28:13
Speaker 1: and people saying this is not a great. Yeah. For
28:15
Speaker 1: each instance, even the one we were saying like the
28:17
Speaker 1: electoral college worked perfectly, there are people who are like, no,
28:20
Speaker 1: it's all messed up, like he clearly won the popular vote,
28:23
Speaker 1: however you want to put it, yeah, like uh, and
28:26
Speaker 1: and other people to say like, calmed down, that's all
28:29
Speaker 1: just calmed down. Well, one of the knocks against it
28:31
Speaker 1: is some say it discourages voter turnout. Um, because unless
28:35
Speaker 1: you're in a swing state or a battleground state, it's
28:38
Speaker 1: quote unquote predecided. Yeah, but then again, so does like
28:41
Speaker 1: the two party system. We were in like a very
28:44
Speaker 1: very red state. So we can say if we you know,
28:48
Speaker 1: word of not vote read um, we like, we could
28:51
Speaker 1: make a case that our votes would be thrown away, um,
28:55
Speaker 1: and that could dissuade voters from turning out too. And
28:58
Speaker 1: the people for it say, now, this is exactly what
29:01
Speaker 1: we need, because it's a wade system. Um. The states
29:04
Speaker 1: that have the most, the states that should have the
29:07
Speaker 1: most influences are the states that are the most populated.
29:11
Speaker 1: Well that's how it's how it's divided up. Like Alas
29:13
Speaker 1: is great. We love all that land, but land shouldn't
29:15
Speaker 1: be deciding who the president is, you know, yeah right, yeah, okay, No,
29:23
Speaker 1: I'm with it. It's people. It's people that counts, not mountains.
29:26
Speaker 1: People not mountains, People not mountains. What do we want
29:31
Speaker 1: time travel? When do we want it? It's irrelevant? Alright,
29:36
Speaker 1: I like that side, So I don't know, it's just
29:39
Speaker 1: some random guy I posted on the Facebook page. Everyone
29:41
Speaker 1: thought it was me, though, I guess because facial here,
29:44
Speaker 1: it's like there's more than me. I see mustaches out there, Yeah,
29:48
Speaker 1: I mean they're all over the place. Um So, over
29:51
Speaker 1: the past two hundred years, over seven hundred proposals have
29:54
Speaker 1: been introduced to reform or eliminate this process. Yep, the
29:59
Speaker 1: most proposed les for any constitutional amendment. I could see that. Yeah,
30:03
Speaker 1: I can see that. I think it's probably because um,
30:07
Speaker 1: executive executive orders aren't in the Constitution and therefore can't
30:11
Speaker 1: be repealed. Maybe. UM, I know that attorneys by and
30:15
Speaker 1: large are against it. The American Bar Association polled at
30:19
Speaker 1: SEM in favor of abolishing it, whereas political scientists have
30:24
Speaker 1: generally supported it. And then there I could find three
30:28
Speaker 1: popular polls opinion polls over the years. UM in nineteen
30:32
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent of Americans said they don't like it.
30:36
Speaker 1: In ninety late sixties, theaters just like, what is it? Government?
30:42
Speaker 1: I don't want it? And then that UM in nineteen
30:46
Speaker 1: eight one that declined to But by and large the
30:50
Speaker 1: people are saying, or at least up until nine, like,
30:54
Speaker 1: we don't like this process. Don't make us insurrect. Whoever
30:59
Speaker 1: has the most most votes should win is what many
31:02
Speaker 1: Americans believe. Did we talk about the two elections that
31:07
Speaker 1: were decided by the House of Representatives because there were
31:10
Speaker 1: ties in the electoral Well, we talked about the one,
31:12
Speaker 1: I which think we mentioned the other? Oh yeah, yeah,
31:15
Speaker 1: but Burr and um Adam or Jefferson, right, Um, there
31:22
Speaker 1: was a tie in the electoral college, and it took
31:24
Speaker 1: thirty one votes in the House of Representatives to decide
31:29
Speaker 1: who was the president, and it turned out to be
31:32
Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson. And then Aaron Burr was shot. That's right.
31:36
Speaker 1: That's the sad end of that story. Aaron Burr shot
31:40
Speaker 1: Alexander Hamilton's that's right, And that's the sad end too.
31:46
Speaker 1: Electoral college. Yeah, and vote people, That's all we have
31:49
Speaker 1: to say. Even if you if you live in California
31:52
Speaker 1: and you're in the Democrat and you think, hey, we're
31:54
Speaker 1: gonna lock up this fifty votes, even if I sleep
31:57
Speaker 1: in and go see my medical marijuana to doctor, get
32:02
Speaker 1: out vote anyway. Yeah. Or if you're in a state
32:04
Speaker 1: like Georgia and you're a Republican and you think, hey,
32:08
Speaker 1: we're gonna carry this, you get out and vote too.
32:11
Speaker 1: It's pretty much the uh, the fable of the rabbit
32:13
Speaker 1: and the hair that you're talking about. Who's the hair?
32:18
Speaker 1: I guess the hair is the person who visits their
32:21
Speaker 1: medical marijuana doctor. It oversleeps rather than um voting that day.
32:25
Speaker 1: And how do you oversleep? You mean like sleep until Wednesday,
32:28
Speaker 1: not get up on Tuesdays. Have you heard about Ohio,
32:33
Speaker 1: Well that's a swing state. Yeah, but have you heard
32:35
Speaker 1: what's going on there? Uh? Now, dude, the Secretary of State,
32:40
Speaker 1: a Republican, has decreed that there that counties that are
32:46
Speaker 1: typically blue, generally blue blue counties are not going to
32:51
Speaker 1: have weekend voting and their early voting hours are going
32:54
Speaker 1: to be short compared to red counties that are going
32:59
Speaker 1: to have weekend voting and longer UM early voting hours.
33:04
Speaker 1: And like there's no explanation for this whatsoever. See, that's
33:09
Speaker 1: my problem is, like I know, you probably can't do
33:10
Speaker 1: a nationwide everything is the same, but within the state,
33:14
Speaker 1: every district should have the exact same procedure, the same machines,
33:18
Speaker 1: the same Like, all of that should be the same.
33:20
Speaker 1: I can't believe there's districts that have like here you
33:23
Speaker 1: do a punch card and here you scribble in with
33:25
Speaker 1: the number two penciling here. You just say it quietly
33:28
Speaker 1: into a booth, and there's someone on the other side
33:32
Speaker 1: out a candle, one of the two candles. Yeah, that's
33:35
Speaker 1: another sentence. It's pretty messed up, though. I think at
33:38
Speaker 1: the very least we should be allowed to tarn feather
33:40
Speaker 1: elected officials who decides stuff like that. Anybody who's responsible
33:44
Speaker 1: for voter disenfranchisement, tard and feather. I guess that's it. Uh,
33:50
Speaker 1: and that makes you an insurrectionist. Yeah, all right, I
33:53
Speaker 1: always knew I was. Uh. Okay, Well, if you want
33:57
Speaker 1: to know more about this weird process we have in
34:01
Speaker 1: the United States called the electoral College, you can type
34:05
Speaker 1: those words into the search bart how stuff works dot com.
34:09
Speaker 1: It will bring up a handy and out of date
34:11
Speaker 1: um graph of how the votes were distributed in two
34:15
Speaker 1: thousand eight. Is it out of date? Two thousand and
34:18
Speaker 1: eight was four years ago? Yeah? Didn't it still the same?
34:21
Speaker 1: Well then it's a snapshot of a moment in time.
34:24
Speaker 1: Know what it is. Anyway, it's still a good article.
34:26
Speaker 1: Electoral College, handy search bar how stuff works dot Com.
34:30
Speaker 1: And now it's time for listening man Josh. Before we
34:34
Speaker 1: go any further, I didn't realize we were doing anyway.
34:37
Speaker 1: We are coming to New York City. Yeah, we are town,
34:41
Speaker 1: one of our town, and we are doing another trivia
34:44
Speaker 1: event there, which we're both really psyched about. Yeah, but
34:47
Speaker 1: we need some help with a venue. We need to
34:50
Speaker 1: have the trivia event somewhere that's right, And we are
34:52
Speaker 1: coming Friday, October twelve, and actually that is when the
34:57
Speaker 1: event is, that evening that night, and we could use
35:00
Speaker 1: some help from anyone out there who has connections, good ideas,
35:04
Speaker 1: um whatever room for a few hundred people. I don't
35:08
Speaker 1: want it to their own horn, but I would say
35:09
Speaker 1: that that's probably a pretty good projection if everybody who's coming.
35:12
Speaker 1: Oh the other way, even if you don't have a venue,
35:15
Speaker 1: guys were going to be in New York for your
35:17
Speaker 1: trivia event, So make sure you come out details to
35:19
Speaker 1: follow up, but on mark your calendar rocks over its wealth.
35:22
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're right, like your tiny little bar that
35:25
Speaker 1: you love that does trivia in in uh Park Slope,
35:30
Speaker 1: probably can't go there. Just to give you an idea,
35:32
Speaker 1: although it's probably a great bar. Exactly to give you
35:35
Speaker 1: an idea. We had our last trivia event at the
35:37
Speaker 1: Bellhouse in Brooklyn, and it was pretty big, and we
35:40
Speaker 1: packed it out, and imagine we could pack it out
35:42
Speaker 1: at least that or maybe a little more this time around,
35:45
Speaker 1: because it's a few years time a lot. Maybe we
35:47
Speaker 1: can work out a deal. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
35:51
Speaker 1: do you so? Hit us up at Facebook or UM
35:56
Speaker 1: Twitter email to us, Yeah, or you could email UM
35:59
Speaker 1: stuff Podcast at Discovery dot com and just put like
36:01
Speaker 1: New York venues in the in the subject line. And
36:04
Speaker 1: that's a great help for us in October twelve. That's right,
36:08
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome. Jobs is already excited. I'm excited,
36:13
Speaker 1: all right, back to it. Yes, I'm gonna call this
36:16
Speaker 1: UM an Englishman, the Englishman who went up in hill
36:21
Speaker 1: and came down a mole, came down a moll. DearS Chuck,
36:27
Speaker 1: Josh and Jerry and in print disease. He actually, he says,
36:30
Speaker 1: a small high, the guest producer, Matt oh Nice, A
36:34
Speaker 1: small high, nothing on a full Hello. My name is
36:38
Speaker 1: Jack Mead and I'm an avid fan from England. Just
36:40
Speaker 1: started listening in October, just started in twenty eleven, and
36:44
Speaker 1: tonight I've just finished the four dred and fifty second podcast,
36:48
Speaker 1: I wish we had the the sound maker. Um. They
36:54
Speaker 1: maker from Grassoline with Josh and Chris Palette print Disease
36:58
Speaker 1: a terrible pre Chuck Day, uh to the most recent
37:02
Speaker 1: Shark Attack episodes. It's been a wild and exciting ride.
37:05
Speaker 1: You guys will come a long way. I just listen
37:06
Speaker 1: to the first one to see the difference, and not
37:08
Speaker 1: only is it missing the sweet dulph of tones of
37:10
Speaker 1: Charles W. Bryant, but Josh's voice sounds very weird. Yeah,
37:14
Speaker 1: and it's not like we're recording in a can. Yeah,
37:16
Speaker 1: and I was really aggressive. Oh yeah, yeah, like, hey,
37:20
Speaker 1: what do you think? Huh huh. I can't even listen
37:24
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, you poked me once once. Um. Anyway,
37:28
Speaker 1: I just want you guys to know your podcast has
37:29
Speaker 1: become a huge part of my life. Catching up with
37:32
Speaker 1: him has left me both the sense of achievement but
37:34
Speaker 1: also great satness. See. I listened to the podcast pretty
37:37
Speaker 1: much any time when I'm not engaging with other human beings. Um,
37:40
Speaker 1: I've listened over nine days worth of your voices in
37:43
Speaker 1: the space to ten months. I probably heard you too,
37:45
Speaker 1: speaking more than my own fiance's voice. I was thinking,
37:48
Speaker 1: man a little only guy, but he's engaged, Like, dude,
37:51
Speaker 1: you should prioritize here, that's pause. Going from that amount
37:56
Speaker 1: of awesomeness to just two episodes a week is making
37:58
Speaker 1: me feel confused and frightened. It's okay, Jack, you know
38:02
Speaker 1: it's strange. It's like this is a pretty frequent report
38:05
Speaker 1: we here. It's like a condition. Well, I like, bulk up,
38:08
Speaker 1: you bulk listen. Then all of a sudden you have
38:11
Speaker 1: to wait like everybody else, like a schmo. I just
38:13
Speaker 1: did the Firefly marathon. Yeah, it's good. Think how I feel.
38:18
Speaker 1: You watch fourteen episodes of that than the movie and
38:20
Speaker 1: then you're cut off after four days, and that's there's
38:23
Speaker 1: not another one coming every week. So I'm just like
38:26
Speaker 1: looking at the walls now wondering where captain type pans
38:29
Speaker 1: is is that? Yeah, like sad, I've been trying to
38:33
Speaker 1: figure it out. Everyone else I've talked to like, oh, yeah,
38:36
Speaker 1: I'm more than Firefly years ago like everyone else, but
38:38
Speaker 1: we know you're paying anyway. I'll be on my bunk.
38:45
Speaker 1: We don't have a punk. I would like to think
38:47
Speaker 1: that I'm your biggest fan in England, but I guess
38:49
Speaker 1: that is statistically improbable very much enjoyed Chuck's terrible attempts
38:52
Speaker 1: at an English accent and your attempts at pronouncing our
38:56
Speaker 1: place names. Um. I've been wanting to email you guys
38:58
Speaker 1: since I got into the podcast, but wanted to catch
39:00
Speaker 1: up first. I think what you do is truly amazing
39:02
Speaker 1: and genuinely enjoy life more with the podcast as the
39:05
Speaker 1: soundtrack crazy. I know you guys must get hundreds of
39:09
Speaker 1: emails a day. Uh that's not true, so I don't
39:12
Speaker 1: expect to reply, but I'm just glad to know that
39:15
Speaker 1: you will read this. I look forward today that I
39:16
Speaker 1: can contribute information and maybe given even get on the
39:19
Speaker 1: listener mail. So if I may make a quick suggestion,
39:23
Speaker 1: I would love the special podcast hosted by Emily and
39:25
Speaker 1: you me. I have no idea how to spell your
39:27
Speaker 1: wife's names? But he actually nailed it? Did he really? Yeah?
39:31
Speaker 1: And um really yeah? Look at that? Wow? And then uh,
39:37
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