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Love Means Letting Go with Troy Hadeed · The Heart-Led Business Show

• 0:01
  Speaker: Welcome to The Heart-Led Business Show, where compassion meets commerce and leaders lead with love.
• 0:09
  Speaker: Join your host, Tom Jackobs, as he delves into the insightful conversations with visionary business leaders who defy the status quo, putting humanity first and profit second.
• 0:20
  Speaker: From heartfelt strategies to inspiring stories, this podcast is your compass in the world of conscious capitalism.
• 0:29
  Speaker: So buckle up and let your heart guide your business journey.
• 0:36
  Tom Jackobs: Welcome to the heart-led business show where connections bloom like sunflowers.
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  Tom Jackobs: Today we're diving into a delightful conversation with the inspiring Troy Hadeed, a masterful author, Zen yoga teacher and social entrepreneur with a heart wide open, Troy is on a quest to make the divine more accessible and help humanity realize its intricate web of connection.
• 1:02
  Tom Jackobs: So grab your yoga mat or your notepad because this episode is a journey you won't wanna miss.
• 1:08
  Tom Jackobs: Troy, welcome to the show.
• 1:10
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 1:10
  Troy Hadeed: Thanks Tom.
• 1:11
  Troy Hadeed: Pleasure to be here.
• 1:12
  Troy Hadeed: You know?
• 1:13
  Tom Jackobs: Uh.
• 1:14
  Troy Hadeed: Such an honor to be here.
• 1:15
  Troy Hadeed: And we don't often talk about what it means to, like this, this, the, the sort of your show.
• 1:23
  Troy Hadeed: This idea of business led by heart is such a beautiful thing that isn't often spoken of.
• 1:30
  Troy Hadeed: So I wanna say thank you.
• 1:32
  Tom Jackobs: Oh, you're very welcome.
• 1:33
  Tom Jackobs: And, and I, I'm really excited to dive into our conversation, especially with your book, Love.
• 1:40
  Tom Jackobs: So, I mean that, that's, uh, exactly what we're all about.
• 1:43
  Tom Jackobs: But the first question I always like to ask is, what's your definition of a heart-led business?
• 1:50
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 1:50
  Troy Hadeed: I'll first say that a book is called, my Name is Love, so it's a little different.
• 1:57
  Troy Hadeed: A heartd-led business to me is it's a business that at its very priority and agenda, save something bigger than itself, you know, and sure we need to generate profit to do that.
• 2:16
  Troy Hadeed: But if we ask a question, well, what is the absolute priority of this business?
• 2:22
  Troy Hadeed: Is it to make profit?
• 2:23
  Troy Hadeed: Well, that's not a heartd-led business.
• 2:25
  Tom Jackobs: Right.
• 2:26
  Troy Hadeed: Is it to have a positive impact on society, any people around us, and save something greater than its own identity, and does it have to make profit to do that?
• 2:37
  Troy Hadeed: That's a heart-led business, you know?
• 2:40
  Tom Jackobs: Uh, I like That's that's great.
• 2:41
  Tom Jackobs: And, and I like that distinction between is it built to make a profit or is it built to be socially, uh, conscious and, and help people.
• 2:52
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah, and really you can't really help people if you're not making a profit either.
• 2:56
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:57
  Troy Hadeed: And to be honest, sometimes that's my struggle.
• 3:00
  Troy Hadeed: 'cause you can't be, you can't be too much hot and then you don't have sustainability.
• 3:07
  Troy Hadeed: So you don't have a su sustainability to support a work you want to do anymore.
• 3:13
  Troy Hadeed: You know?
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  Troy Hadeed: So you really have to find that balance.
• 3:16
  Troy Hadeed: And it's not, it's not easy, you know, a lot of the time.
• 3:20
  Tom Jackobs: You know, and, and I think a lot of people think that being a heart-led business makes you kind of a doormat, meaning people can, can take advantage of you.
• 3:30
  Tom Jackobs: Do you find that to be the case at all?
• 3:32
  Troy Hadeed: Um, for me, yeah, that's, um, if, if you ask me about my weakness as a, as a entrepreneur, that is my weakness as an entrepreneur.
• 3:41
  Troy Hadeed: And, um, you know, right now, like we, I'm, I'm running a yoga studio, well, we are running a yoga studio now for over 10 years.
• 3:51
  Troy Hadeed: And, um, I have now had to step back completely and we just hired, um, uh, general manager to come on board and I, I tell her now she's my boss.
• 4:03
  Troy Hadeed: Yes.
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  Troy Hadeed: Because I know that, especially in that realm that I don't have what it takes.
• 4:09
  Troy Hadeed: I'm too much hard, I'm too emotionally invested in this community to, um, have it actually be a profitable business.
• 4:18
  Troy Hadeed: Um, and my decision has been to step back.
• 4:22
  Tom Jackobs: Wow.
• 4:23
  Troy Hadeed: It's not that you removed your heart, but you know, like I once had a business advisor tell me she worked in a corporate world for three decades.
• 4:33
  Troy Hadeed: And she came to advise us on, on how we move forward.
• 4:36
  Troy Hadeed: And what she identified was in a corporate world, they have to take this structure that is driven by profit and try and infuse more love, more compassion, more community, more understanding.
• 4:52
  Troy Hadeed: And in our case, we have a community that is driven by love, compassion, understanding, and community, but it's not sustainable.
• 5:05
  Tom Jackobs: Right.
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  Troy Hadeed: So we now have to do reverse is we have to take that community and ask, well, how do we infuse the structure, infuse the profitability so that that profit and sustainability can drive the work we want to do anywhere, you know?
• 5:20
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 5:21
  Tom Jackobs: So how did you come up with the, the, or the recognition that you're the bottleneck or you're the problem in, in the business and, and you needed to hire a general manager?
• 5:31
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 5:32
  Troy Hadeed: Um, you know, I, I guess introspection and accountability and, you know, I've had, um, this business that I'm in right now, which I don't even consider business.
• 5:44
  Troy Hadeed: It's my life, my community, my family.
• 5:47
  Troy Hadeed: Um, it really hasn't been profitable for quite some time.
• 5:51
  Troy Hadeed: You know, we, we've just been kind of breaking even and getting by.
• 5:55
  Tom Jackobs: Sure.
• 5:57
  Troy Hadeed: But before that, I, I run a recycling business and, um, we collected waste cooking oil and recycled waste cooking oil and exported for biofuel to Europe.
• 6:09
  Troy Hadeed: And when I first started that business, everyone thought I was absolute lunatic.
• 6:15
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 6:15
  Troy Hadeed: Um, no one believed in anything, but that was the most profitable business.
• 6:21
  Troy Hadeed: I've ever, um, put my hands on, invested my time in,
• 6:25
  Tom Jackobs: Wow.
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  Troy Hadeed: And, um, it was the most financially stable me as a individual has ever been.
• 6:32
  Troy Hadeed: And, um, I decided I had, I was going to sell that business And I did.
• 6:40
  Troy Hadeed: Um, and, uh, it was a decision I had to make because I realized that I could not take that business where it could possibly go, because for me, as a individual, it was all one big family.
• 6:58
  Troy Hadeed: I was a doormat.
• 7:00
  Troy Hadeed: I was too soft.
• 7:02
  Troy Hadeed: I was too much hot.
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  Troy Hadeed: Um, and not enough of that structure accountability, um, that we need in a, for business to actually be profitable and sustainable.
• 7:15
  Troy Hadeed: And I think it's just so important for someone to realize, well, what is my strength and what is my weakness?
• 7:23
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
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  Troy Hadeed: Because we, we all have them.
• 7:25
  Troy Hadeed: And I think for me, I acknowledge that that structure, rigidity, accountability, that is my weakness.
• 7:34
  Troy Hadeed: That is not my strong point.
• 7:36
  Troy Hadeed: And while I, I want to lead businesses that are heart-led and that serve something greater than ourselves, that for business to do that it needs a structure, it needs it profitability.
• 7:52
  Troy Hadeed: And um, therefore we have to find a balance.
• 7:55
  Troy Hadeed: And if I can't bring that balance, I have to bring someone else in who can bring that balance.
• 8:02
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 8:02
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah,
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  Troy Hadeed: You know?
• 8:03
  Tom Jackobs: Absolutely.
• 8:04
  Tom Jackobs: So how tough, how tough was it to bring somebody in and, and, and hand over your business to somebody else to run?
• 8:14
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 8:15
  Troy Hadeed: Um, for me, for me, it's not, it's not, it wasn't hard and I mean, it's still relatively new, but, um, it's not hard.
• 8:24
  Troy Hadeed: I know I have to take a completely hands-off approach.
• 8:27
  Tom Jackobs: Mm-hmm.
• 8:28
  Troy Hadeed: They know I have a lot to offer.
• 8:31
  Troy Hadeed: They know I'm in core of it.
• 8:34
  Troy Hadeed: Um, but at the same time, when it comes to making hard decisions, I have to take a hands off approach if I want to see the business and community, which is what it is to me, right?
• 8:48
  Troy Hadeed: If I want to see the community grow into what it can be and be profitable and sustainable, I mean, I've tried, clearly, I know I, I was in a, a therapist.
• 9:01
  Troy Hadeed: My talking to my therapist two days ago and she said, well, do I have grief around it?
• 9:09
  Troy Hadeed: I was like, no.
• 9:10
  Troy Hadeed: She's like, am I worried that my community views me as a failure in that aspect?
• 9:20
  Troy Hadeed: I was like, I'm not because I have failed them.
• 9:23
  Troy Hadeed: I have, I have failed them.
• 9:26
  Troy Hadeed: Right?
• 9:26
  Troy Hadeed: And we're human.
• 9:27
  Troy Hadeed: We make mistakes.
• 9:28
  Troy Hadeed: We all have our strong point, our weaknesses, and I have no problem seeing that in that aspect.
• 9:34
  Troy Hadeed: I have failed.
• 9:36
  Troy Hadeed: And, um, there needs to be a balance and certain things need to be infused into the operations and the business that I have not been able to bring.
• 9:48
  Troy Hadeed: So, so it, I, I think there's a big part of it as a entrepreneur is recognizing that there's some things I'm good at and there's some things I can't do.
• 9:59
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 10:00
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 10:00
  Troy Hadeed: I have to step back and take a hands off approach.
• 10:04
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 10:05
  Tom Jackobs: You know, I think that is a very difficult thing for entrepreneurs to do.
• 10:09
  Tom Jackobs: I, I know it was very difficult for me too.
• 10:12
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 10:12
  Tom Jackobs: When I, I gave over control to a general manager as well in, in my fitness business.
• 10:18
  Tom Jackobs: And, but, but when you do that, how freeing did you feel or do you feel now having that responsibility kind of taken off your shoulders?
• 10:29
  Troy Hadeed: Well, we're, we're still in the, we're still in the space of transition.
• 10:38
  Tom Jackobs: Okay.
• 10:38
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
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  Troy Hadeed: So I think I'm still very much involved trying to bridge gaps and connect those gaps.
• 10:45
  Troy Hadeed: But I'll tell you how I look at it is that the business had come to a point, the yoga student community as a business had come to a point or is at a point where it could, no, there was no sustainability in this.
• 11:01
  Troy Hadeed: This was not a life I wanted for myself or our teachers or our community.
• 11:06
  Troy Hadeed: Right.
• 11:06
  Troy Hadeed: So it's either it's gonna fold and fail and closed down, or changes have to be made.
• 11:16
  Troy Hadeed: And if it works out and we find longevity and sustainability and profitability and a community grows to what I know it can be, well then I have to give everything I can for a little while to see that happen.
• 11:33
  Troy Hadeed: And when it does happen, I will be really, really happy.
• 11:38
  Troy Hadeed: Um, I will feel that freedom.
• 11:42
  Troy Hadeed: And if it can't happen and it doesn't happen, well at least I know I give it everything.
• 11:51
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 11:52
  Troy Hadeed: Um, and in that also, it's a sense of peace.
• 11:56
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 11:57
  Tom Jackobs: You know I can definitely relate to that.
• 12:01
  Tom Jackobs: That's great.
• 12:02
  Tom Jackobs: Now, how did you find a general manager that, that has the operational, you know, fortitude, but also the heart as well?
• 12:12
  Tom Jackobs: Because I'm sure you, you need somebody with, with some heart, right.
• 12:17
  Tom Jackobs: To still be in a heart-led business.
• 12:20
  Troy Hadeed: A lot, a lot of heart.
• 12:22
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 12:22
  Troy Hadeed: Financially we can't, we can't just, if somebody were to come to work here just for financial compensation, we probably couldn't afford that.
• 12:32
  Troy Hadeed: Right?
• 12:33
  Tom Jackobs: Right.
• 12:34
  Troy Hadeed: So at least right now, to be part of our team and our community where we're at, you have to believe in what we do.
• 12:41
  Tom Jackobs: Hmm.
• 12:42
  Troy Hadeed: You have to believe in the greater scope, the greater purpose.
• 12:48
  Troy Hadeed: 'cause if you don't.
• 12:50
  Troy Hadeed: It wouldn't feed you, it wouldn't give you what you need.
• 12:52
  Troy Hadeed: It won't be able to give you what you need at this point in time.
• 12:55
  Troy Hadeed: Right.
• 12:56
  Troy Hadeed: And um, I would say, how did I find that person?
• 13:00
  Troy Hadeed: Well, we pray, we ask, we have faith and we trust that they're going to show up.
• 13:07
  Troy Hadeed: And, um, that is exactly what happened.
• 13:10
  Tom Jackobs: Oh, that's beautiful.
• 13:11
  Troy Hadeed: That is exactly what happened.
• 13:13
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 13:14
  Tom Jackobs: That's awesome.
• 13:15
  Tom Jackobs: And now can she fire you?
• 13:18
  Troy Hadeed: Um, I would, yeah.
• 13:20
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 13:20
  Troy Hadeed: I would like to believe so.
• 13:22
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 13:22
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah, sure, sure.
• 13:24
  Troy Hadeed: If put it, put it this way, Tom and I say it all the time.
• 13:28
  Troy Hadeed: If the classes I teach any studio are not bringing people in and the attendance is not there, then I need to be removed.
• 13:39
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 13:39
  Troy Hadeed: I need to be removed.
• 13:40
  Troy Hadeed: And I, I'm okay with that, right?
• 13:42
  Troy Hadeed: I'm 100% okay with, with my, path or my career or my future shifting in whatever ever, whatever way it needs to.
• 13:55
  Troy Hadeed: And I think what, what often happens in, in regards to entrepreneurs, we see it all the time, is our identity becomes attached to that business or that role or that career.
• 14:10
  Troy Hadeed: And in that, we hold ourselves back.
• 14:13
  Troy Hadeed: We take, come attached, the business suffers.
• 14:15
  Troy Hadeed: We suffer.
• 14:16
  Troy Hadeed: And I always say, when somebody calls me a yoga teacher, I say, um, actually one of my, one of my books coming out, it's gonna be, I am not a yoga teacher.
• 14:25
  Tom Jackobs: Hmm.
• 14:26
  Troy Hadeed: Because I, I know that what I have to serve is so much bigger than teaching yoga.
• 14:32
  Troy Hadeed: That whether it be writing books or speaking or doing work in a corporate world or coaching that, um, what I serve and what I bring is actually so much bigger than teaching yoga.
• 14:44
  Troy Hadeed: That if that has to change, well that has to change.
• 14:48
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 14:50
  Tom Jackobs: Oh, that's, that's very cool.
• 14:51
  Tom Jackobs: Now let's talk a little bit about your book.
• 14:53
  Tom Jackobs: My name is Love.
• 14:55
  Tom Jackobs: How did you come across, or how did you develop that book?
• 14:59
  Troy Hadeed: Um, I first knew I was gonna write a book when I was 19 years old, 19, 20 years old.
• 15:06
  Troy Hadeed: I never knew what it was gonna be about.
• 15:08
  Troy Hadeed: I went to university and I told my dad I was gonna study writing and philosophy.
• 15:13
  Tom Jackobs: Oh, nice.
• 15:14
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 15:15
  Troy Hadeed: And then he, of course, he was paying for my education and he said, absolutely not.
• 15:20
  Troy Hadeed: You're gonna do business.
• 15:23
  Troy Hadeed: So I did and, and, um, you know, a few years after graduating, I started teaching yoga and look at that.
• 15:29
  Troy Hadeed: 20 years later, I pretty much write a book on philosophy.
• 15:32
  Troy Hadeed: And love and life and, and it's so funny how it comes back around.
• 15:37
  Troy Hadeed: But um, you know, I tried to write that book several times and I felt like every time I tried, I wasn't ready until the last time I sat down and tried.
• 15:47
  Troy Hadeed: It felt like I was ready and it just started to come out.
• 15:51
  Troy Hadeed: Everything came out, you know, it was ready to be born and um the reason I wrote a book, if I have to put it in a nutshell, is that, you know, along a human experience and, and anyone that is, or the spiritual self-realization world, or whatever you wanna call it, personal develop on world, we talk about a lot of things and we repost a lot of things and we read a lot of books and we say a lot of these things that we know we should be saying.
• 16:25
  Troy Hadeed: But it seems like asking question, how does this apply to my life?
• 16:31
  Troy Hadeed: And embodying or incorporating these things into our life, um, and acknowledging where we're dropping a ball and where we're not doing that.
• 16:42
  Troy Hadeed: Seems still elude us.
• 16:45
  Troy Hadeed: So this, um, this book was an effort to present certain realizations or philosophy to ideas and teachings.
• 16:55
  Troy Hadeed: Um, user experience it from my life that a reader could relate to, and then invite the reader to ask you a question, how does it apply to me?
• 17:05
  Troy Hadeed: Where does this apply to me?
• 17:06
  Troy Hadeed: And it's not, it's not as easy as, you know, when we, when we look at, you know, I didn't wanna call the book self-help.
• 17:13
  Troy Hadeed: I still don't wanna call the book self-help.
• 17:16
  Troy Hadeed: Um, but when I look, when we think of those things, we think of, all right, how can I make more money?
• 17:23
  Troy Hadeed: How can I live a healthy life?
• 17:25
  Troy Hadeed: How can I make all my dreams come through?
• 17:28
  Troy Hadeed: Um, but how about how can I get outta my own way and save something bigger than my needs, my wants and my desires?
• 17:37
  Troy Hadeed: So, in other words, for me it's a, it's a dissolving of the idea of self to serve something bigger, you know?
• 17:47
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 17:49
  Tom Jackobs: I love that.
• 17:50
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 17:51
  Tom Jackobs: That's great.
• 17:52
  Tom Jackobs: And people, I think people need that as well because we're so focused in, in the personal development.
• 17:58
  Tom Jackobs: I'm glad that it's not a self-help book, right.
• 18:01
  Tom Jackobs: Because, because it kind of pigeonholes you then into doing things to help us dream better, better, you know, instead of getting out of our way and being better that way as well.
• 18:13
  Tom Jackobs: So I think that's, that's a, that's a great way of bringing the love back.
• 18:18
  Tom Jackobs: Great.
• 18:19
  Tom Jackobs: So when, when you were starting the yoga studio, what was that transition like from selling the recycling business, which I think was brilliant too, by the way.
• 18:29
  Tom Jackobs: That's a great business idea.
• 18:31
  Tom Jackobs: And, and so selling that and then opening up the, the, the studio, what was that transition like for you?
• 18:37
  Troy Hadeed: Um, it was gradual.
• 18:40
  Troy Hadeed: So there was a, a, you know, and before that recycling business, I had a hemp store.
• 18:46
  Tom Jackobs: Okay.
• 18:46
  Troy Hadeed: You know?
• 18:48
  Troy Hadeed: And then, um, when I realized I didn't wanna run a retail store, it wasn't really what it was, it wasn't really having the impact I wanted it to have.
• 18:57
  Troy Hadeed: You see, this wasn't a hemp shop.
• 19:00
  Troy Hadeed: Or a head shop.
• 19:01
  Troy Hadeed: It was a hemp shop, not a head shop.
• 19:03
  Tom Jackobs: Okay.
• 19:03
  Troy Hadeed: So, it was, it wasn't about hemp in, in the idea of smoking or or CBD or THC.
• 19:10
  Troy Hadeed: It was about fibers, clothes, cosmetics, and the environmental use or the environmental contribution of cannabis tiva.
• 19:19
  Troy Hadeed: And then after I ran that for seven years and I began to realize, well, okay, this is no longer having the environmental impact or sustainability impact I wanted to have.
• 19:30
  Troy Hadeed: It now has just become a retail store.
• 19:34
  Tom Jackobs: Hmm.
• 19:34
  Troy Hadeed: Um, so I think before I closed that story, I started teaching yoga.
• 19:40
  Tom Jackobs: Okay.
• 19:41
  Troy Hadeed: And when I started teaching yoga, I, um, I realized that I wanted, that, that was what I wanted to do more of because I recognized that we could not have a world that where we lived in peace and harmony if the individuals of that world are not at peace and harmony with themselves.
• 20:01
  Tom Jackobs: Right.
• 20:01
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 20:02
  Troy Hadeed: So I, I decided that I wanted to shift with that kind of direction.
• 20:07
  Troy Hadeed: And it's so funny, I remember the, the day I pulled into my driveway and I got out, I tell the story in my book and I got outta my truck and I smell the diesel fuel and, and I decided in that moment, it's almost like I got a download that said I was gonna convert my vehicle to run on waste cooking oil.
• 20:29
  Tom Jackobs: Hmm.
• 20:29
  Troy Hadeed: So I went to Colorado.
• 20:31
  Troy Hadeed: I learned how to convert a truck to run on waste cooking oil and how to make biodiesel.
• 20:37
  Tom Jackobs: Okay.
• 20:37
  Troy Hadeed: And then my own, my intention was just to do it for my truck.
• 20:43
  Troy Hadeed: And when I came back home I realized that all the waste cooking oil with that being poured down a drain.
• 20:51
  Troy Hadeed: And that people were even being paid to take it to dump.
• 20:56
  Troy Hadeed: I was like well hold on.
• 20:57
  Troy Hadeed: There's an opportunity here.
• 20:59
  Troy Hadeed: So that's when I really got into to expanding and building that business.
• 21:05
  Troy Hadeed: But that was never my initial intention.
• 21:08
  Troy Hadeed: Um, I just, as I followed my heart, as I followed my heart, the opportunity presented itself.
• 21:16
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 21:16
  Troy Hadeed: I think after a few years of running that business and being successful, I began to feel a weight of the, because it be, it very much became a corporate life, the weight of that.
• 21:32
  Troy Hadeed: And I felt very um, strained in the management of, of my staff because they became like family for me and that, that emotional weight on me trying to bridge that gap of heart-led profitability, um, I realized that it was not something I could shoulder, and that if the business needed to go where it needed to go, it needed more of that.
• 21:59
  Tom Jackobs: Hmm.
• 21:59
  Troy Hadeed: So I actually started, I was teaching yoga while I built that business.
• 22:04
  Troy Hadeed: And what happened is when I sold that business, I was able to build a house.
• 22:12
  Troy Hadeed: And pretty much all that money was gone um, but now I could comfortably direct all my energy into building this yoga studio and community that I knew, at least at first financially, would not really give me what I was hoping for, but at least I had somewhere to live so I could direct my energy to it regardless.
• 22:37
  Troy Hadeed: So it, it kind of gave me a financial, a sense of somewhat of financial freedom so I could at least give something all my energy and my love without it having to give me back financially right away.
• 22:53
  Troy Hadeed: So it, it was a transition and it still is a transition.
• 22:56
  Tom Jackobs: You know, business in, in general is, it's always a new day, right?
• 23:00
  Tom Jackobs: Never, never the same thing, which is, which is what I lo I love about business.
• 23:05
  Tom Jackobs: It's, it's always so.
• 23:08
  Tom Jackobs: Cool.
• 23:08
  Tom Jackobs: So Troy, how can people learn more about you, your speaking, the books, uh, even the yoga studio.
• 23:15
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 23:16
  Troy Hadeed: Well, they can find me at troyhadeed.com.
• 23:19
  Troy Hadeed: And of course my book is also available on amazon.com.
• 23:22
  Troy Hadeed: They could find it there.
• 23:23
  Troy Hadeed: I am on all social media platforms.
• 23:26
  Troy Hadeed: Instagram is my most preferred.
• 23:28
  Troy Hadeed: If they want to support our yoga studio or do yoga online with us from Trinidad, yeah, they could go to beyond the Yoga TV or beyondyogatrinidad.com.
• 23:40
  Tom Jackobs: Oh, nice.
• 23:41
  Tom Jackobs: Oh, that's, that's
• 23:42
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Tom Jackobs: Very cool.
• 23:43
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 23:44
  Tom Jackobs: Streaming worldwide.
• 23:46
  Troy Hadeed: First 30 days is free, so they could sign up and check it out.
• 23:49
  Troy Hadeed: Join us live in Trinidad.
• 23:52
  Tom Jackobs: Oh, nice.
• 23:53
  Tom Jackobs: Yeah.
• 23:53
  Tom Jackobs: And that, oh, that sounds like a great global community as well.
• 23:56
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 23:57
  Tom Jackobs: Well, Troy, thank you so much for sharing your insights today and sharing your story.
• 24:01
  Tom Jackobs: I really appreciate you taking that time to do that, and I know our listeners really appreciate you as well.
• 24:07
  Troy Hadeed: Same.
• 24:07
  Troy Hadeed: And thanks for having me.
• 24:08
  Troy Hadeed: And I don't, I don't think, Tom, I think a lot of the time listeners don't always realize the amount of work it takes to have a podcast and cultivate a podcast.
• 24:19
  Troy Hadeed: And persistence.
• 24:20
  Troy Hadeed: And a resilience.
• 24:21
  Troy Hadeed: So I just want to say to you, thank you for having me and what you do.
• 24:26
  Tom Jackobs: Oh, you're very welcome.
• 24:27
  Troy Hadeed: Yeah.
• 24:28
  Tom Jackobs: And thank you listeners for tuning in today as well.
• 24:31
  Tom Jackobs: I really appreciate it.
• 24:33
  Tom Jackobs: I know Troy really appreciates you tuning in as well and make sure that you're checking out everything that he's doing.
• 24:38
  Tom Jackobs: We'll provide all of that down in the show notes, so make sure you're checking that out.
• 24:42
  Tom Jackobs: Clicking around.
• 24:43
  Tom Jackobs: And I believe there's even a, uh, a link there to his book, an audio version of his book.
• 24:48
  Tom Jackobs: So make sure you're downloading that as well.
• 24:51
  Tom Jackobs: And if you could do me a favor and that is to share the show with a friend or a family member that could use some of that information that we shared today.
• 24:59
  Tom Jackobs: Until next time, lead with your heart.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: You've been listening to The Heart-Led Business Show, hosted by Tom Jackobs.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Join us next time for another inspiring journey into the heart of business.